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Hey, Ero, good morning.
How are you doing today, Jamie.

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I'm so good. How are you? Absolutely fantastic and very excited to talk

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with you because, I mean you're
talking about the big eclipse. I mean

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every age group is talking about it
and wants to somehow, some way participate

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with it. Right. It's like
the best thing ever. I love it.

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It's so fun to talk about.
You know. Even though that there's

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there's like a little area of the
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hundred percent effect of the eclipse,
there's other parts of this, and I

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think the listeners need to understand that
you might get eighty percent, you might

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get forty percent. It's still going
to be a part of our journey.

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Yep. Absolutely. And my mission
though is if you're closed, if you're

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on that deep partial and you can
go to the extra couple miles in order

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to get to totality, do it. But you know what, the one

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of the things that I'm learning and
doing the studying about this as we get

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closer and closer, Boy, this
is a money making entity, is what

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it is. Because people are they're
out there with their RVs and they're charging

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a lot of money for it.
I mean, has it always been a

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money maker? Oh my gosh,
you know, I think, I don't

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know. I don't know. I
think in twenty seventeen people started to notice

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that. And I can't really speak
for before that, but certainly now there

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are definitely some people who are really
taking advantage of that. I was on

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a discussion board and I saw that
somebody was like, oh, I still

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have camp site available for your RV, you know, if it's all self

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contained, like no hookups, for
just five hundred dollars, And someone else

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goes, that's a great deal,
and I'm like, what kind of world

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are we living in? So I'm
trying to keep my book at eleven ninety

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nine, okay for you to put
this book together? Though. I love

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the angle that you take, and
that is from the Sun's point of direction.

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Yeah, yeah, you know.
I have that idea for it.

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When I was watching the total solar
eclips and I just thought to myself,

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even if I was the Sun,
you know, what would I be thinking

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as my friend Moon was like literally
moving in and stealing my life. And

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I just had that idea for it, and I was like, this is

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really fun to explore in a children's
book. That also is applicable, I

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think to every age, because who
among us has it felt a little bit

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slighted when a friend or a teammate
or a coworker kind of moved in on

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our thing. Right. One one
of the things that listeners need to understand

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is you've got to get those glasses. And what I did was I just

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went onto Amazon and just bought like
fifteen pairs so that I would have a

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you know, it becomes a conversation
piece. You know, you start talking

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about the eclipse and I go,
you know what, I have a pair

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of glasses for you. And because
they're not that expensive at all, but

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you have got to have the glasses, not sunglasses. You've got to have

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these glasses right, and they have
to be certified. So if you do

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get them on Amazon, make sure
that you're checking to make sure that they

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are actually certified safe. There were
unfortunately some incidents instances in twenty seventeen when

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there were some that were you know, put out that work approved. So

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just do your due diligence there and
check it out and get them now.

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Because like you're talking about price gouging, that will happen with those glasses as

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they get scarce leading up to the
eclipse, so right now is the perfect

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time to get them. Get them
now, and they're you know, they're

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home improvement stores. You'll start seeing
them on shelves. Just pick them up.

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Just get them. There are a
couple of less you know before you

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have to try to buy welding glasses
or something that people do. I did

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that as a kid because my dad
was a welder. So I totally get

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that we would be out there at
that big old helmet on there feeling like

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we were Darth Vader. Yes,
exactly. And you can still you know,

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if you don't have a glasses,
it's not the end of the world.

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You obviously can't look directly at the
sun. Please don't do that.

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But there's a lot of indirect ways
you can do it. You can make

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a pinhole camera, or you can
even get a kitchen collander and use it

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to create those present shadows on the
ground. So there's a lot of cool

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kind of homemade diy things you can
do. But do not look at the

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sun without those certified filters on this
well, you're gonna think I'm a freak.

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Jamie. In the way that we
had a full eclipse in the South

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Carolina area a couple of years ago. And what I did, I didn't

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get the glasses, but I just
went out into the forest and sat on

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the forest floor and I experienced nature
as that was taking place. It was

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the greatest experience because all of the
birds stopped singing. I mean, it

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was just it was just so peacefully. Just accept it as what it was.

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Yeah, Rad, you're my people, because I also, you know,

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at least you kind of knew what
to expect. I was chasing around

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a three year old trying to figure
out what was going on. But when

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you get to experience that moment of
totality, you know, and like I

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said, if you have a chance
to go to totality in that path,

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it is absolutely worth it because it
is just don't you think it's just hard

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to describe that moment and that moment
of awe. That's the best I can

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describe. It is just it's like
a moment where you're kind of outside yourself

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and your perspective on the universe changes. Well, what I did was I

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took my journal outside and I was
writing in it as it was happening.

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And I really do suggest that listeners
do something like that, so they can

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document that moment because it's once in
a lifetime, maybe twice. But the

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thing is is that you experience something
that your entire body it just will never

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forget. Yeah. No, I
love that, and I'm telling you like

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you are my people. So in
the book. My favorite part about my

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book is that we put a memory
page in the back so that people can

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write down their memories. Because once
you experience something like that, you just

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don't want to forget it, and
then you want an excuse to share it

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with someone else, right, And
so the children's book is the perfect excuse

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for that. Hey, I'll read
you my book and then I'm going to

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talk for a few minutes afterwards about
how cool it was to see one.

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You know, I was going to
ask you when I was prepping last week

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for our conversation, I was going
to ask you, does Mars have something

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like this? And oh my god, it's been all over the newspaper this

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week because that little robot up there
or the rover up there on Mars caught

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some moon action going on up there
on Mars. Isn't it cool? But

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I don't think, and I'm not
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to be one, but it's really
special the relationship between the Earth specifically and

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the our moon and Sun. That
the math and distance works out so that

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that moon perfectly lines up and completely
covers the Sun. I think that is

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unique. The eclipses I've seen of
Mars have been you know where it's like

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it's much smaller, right, so
you can still see like the donut.

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But it's so cool how it works
out from Earth when you're in this in

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the right place and you get to
see that solar corona, because that's really

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the mesmerizing part, Like you said, when the light really goes out and

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the you know, and the wildlife
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It's just a completely different experience,
you know. But yeah, space is

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pretty darn cool when you start checking
it out. And I'm really excited that

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this whole generation of kids is going
to i mean everywhere in the United States

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and the content the United States they'll
get to see at least a partial eclipse,

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and it's so cool that this whole
generation of kids is going to be

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exposed to it. Let's talk about
that moon, because you know, the

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moon is going to be covering the
sun. Now, is it going to

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be a superhero or is it a
thief for stealing the sunlight? I know,

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right, it's it's it's bolth like
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that's kind of the big The big
arc is that it's completely rude, right,

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and it's very selfish. The moon
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end that moon isn't selfish and they
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completely different way, and sun wouldn't
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So I think that it's actually both
right, and it depends on our

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perspective, and it's a good It's
a good thing for us adults to remember

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too, that that we might think
one way right, and then if we

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look at things just with the little
different viewpoint, we can see things a

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completely different way. Now with the
way that you're making a connection with children

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with the eclipse, Is your next
book going to be about the northern lights?

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Because that's another shock and awe too
when you see those northern lights.

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You know what, I'm going to
take that under consideration. I can't share

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yet what my next book is going
to be, but I'll come back and

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tell you about it. When it's
out. How that. Now, where

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are you going to be at when
this eclipse takes place? Well, I

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live in Nebraska, and Nebraska's only
going to have a partial eclipse this time,

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So my family and I are joining
about a million other people who are

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expected to travel down to Texas.
So we're going to go there and hope

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for some clear skies. And I've
got a bunch of appearances at schools and

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science museums and children's museums, and
I'm just I'm looking forward to an incredible

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week down there. I was doing
some research on this recently, and it's

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amazing how NASA is investing in so
much of things like what you're doing.

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In other words, they're taking research
like that you have done and they're combining

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combining it with other people's research,
and they're learning how the effect, how

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it affects us personally. But I
just love the fact that NASA is a

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part of this. Oh my gosh, NASA is doing incredible things with this

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eclipse. They have ambassadors in so
many communities, like you know, they

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they're just really doing it that I'm
so proud of that agency and everything that

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they're doing to really make the most
out of this and hopefully create a whole

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generation of kids that are excited about
space and remind all of us adults why

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it's so special and why this is
so important. And they're doing so many

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experiments, you know, because it's
a it's a unique opportunity for them to

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study the sun. See. And
I'm so proud of you because I mean,

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these are the kind of books that
I had when I was a kid,

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you know, when when when I
was you know, we would we

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would get these from like the Weekly
Reader, or they would want some month

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we'd have to fill out a piece
of paper and and and so I'm so

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proud of you for putting this book
out there for children, because now they've

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got something they can call their own
and experience it themselves. Yeah, thank

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you so much. That's really meaningful. That's exactly what I was hoping to

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accomplish. And people are still buying
those paper books. I can I can

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attest these types of books are are
still very worth having in your home.

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Where can people go to find out
more about you, Jamie and find out

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more about the book. Yeah,
absolutely, Solar eclipsbook dot com. That's

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the website for the book. You
can learn more about kind of this journey

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of the book. And also we
have some special deals for classrooms and book

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order discounts, that kind of thing
on the on the website. And I'm

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really happy to say just as of
yesterday, our Spanish version is published,

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and so yeah, so you can
get the book also in Spanish, and

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then you can also buy the book
just anywhere online that books are sold.

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Your local bookstore can help you out, and of course those big guys that

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we know so well to Amazon,
Walmart, Barnes and Nobles, those types

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of places, but solarclipsbook dot com
is a great place to start. I

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love it. Please come back to
this show anytime in the future. The

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door is always going to be open
for you. I love it. Thank

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you so much. It's been a
pleasure. Will you be brilliant today?

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Okay, Jamie, Okay, same
to you.