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The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend. No,

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here is your host, t J
Leaves. It is here and we

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are ready to go. It is
the return of Canelo Alvarez to the rings,

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defending his undisputed one hundred and sixty
eight pound titles against a fellow undisputed

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champion moving up two weight classes.
Jeremel Charlow is the opponent, and we

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are ready to break that down and
all of the fight action that is in

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and around it in Las Vegas,
everything else that's going on too, and

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if it's got to be, by
the way, welcome in. It's the

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Big Fight Weekend preview. I'm the
somewhat capable host. He is our insider

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Dan ray feel If it's a big
event in Vegas. Ray feels there,

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baby and ray feel O l on
location in Las Vegas as part of the

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preview. Good to have you at
the time that we are taping this,

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you've been there roughly twenty eight hours, thirty hours something like that. The

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build up is going on. This
is Thursday, headed into Friday. Set

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the scene for us, my friend. Good to have you. Yeah,

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listen, TJ. Big fight obviously, which is why we have the big

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fight weekend. Uh, it's it's
gonna be. I'm excited for the fight.

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I mean, I'm always excited for
the big fights. But as I've

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been here and get a chance to
see the guys and talk to the guys

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and go hear from Canello and Charlotte
later in the show from some brief audio.

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I had a chance to talk to
both those guys after the press conference

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on Wednesday. But any event,
Uh no, it's a you walk into

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the MGM Grand which of course is
the host hotel. There's signs everywhere the

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big ring with the Lion. I
actually did a whole photo essay with all

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the description everything I did and where
I went on Wednesday. I've been check

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that out of my substack. A
little plug for that. But listen,

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I've done, you know, one
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Las Vegas. I've covered you know, dozens and dozens of events here at

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the MGM and our team mobile arena, and uh, you know, this

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is a big one and I'm just
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you could sense it because again,
the signs are everywhere. There's already some

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fans that we're around and and it
was a good press conference. And you

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know, it's just I mean,
the schedule is typically the same, but

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it's you know, there's a rhythm
to it, but you just get you

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get excited about it. And so
I'm happy to be here. I know

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it's Thursday becomes to Friday, it's
going to ramp up even more with a

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lot of people coming into town and
being ready for this one. So we

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are ready to preview it a bunch, right, So let's go over everything.

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That will help us so those disclaimers
are out of the way. Again,

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you'll hear from Canello and Jamel Charlote. As you describe it, you

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were there at the press conference on
Wednesday. You'll hear part of that,

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including Dan's Q and a coming up
in a few minutes. Other than that,

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you were now around the fighters.
You were around seeing them. I

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know they're going to weigh in on
Friday, but giving your impression of being

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around them in the build up here
with about forty eight hours to go at

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the time that we're taping this and
as we released the podcast on Friday,

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both relaxed, which was a little
surprising. And I say it only because

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Charlo has always been a guy with
an edge to him, no matter whether

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he was a huge favorite or maybe
an underdog in this case, or you

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know, an even kind of fighter
and a big fighter, not a title

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fight. He's always had that edge
to him. He seems much more common,

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relax and and and understands there's work
to be done. It's a big

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event. Seems excited about it,
was was good with the media. What's

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your take on that, what's your
take on that being around I don't know,

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Jeff, you don't ever read on
that yet. I don't ever read

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on that. I mean, I'm
I've been I've been watching and reading fighters

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for a long long time. My
impression is that he's excited because he knows

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the magnitude of the event and the
kind of history he can make in the

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kind of place he can put himself
within this era of boxing history if he

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can win. But I think he
also views it, and this is me

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maybe reading too much into it,
like just by getting here, it's an

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accomplishment for him, not to say
that he's not going to go out there

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and leave it all on the ring
to try to win. But in many

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ways he's already won by getting to
this level, to becoming half of one

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of the biggest fights of the year, to making that kind of paycheck he's

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going to make. To be able
to have the opportunity for the history,

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he has to know in the back
of his mind that whatever happens, if

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he does lose, he's still the
junior middleweight champion, so it's not like

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he doesn't have any titles or something
to fall back on in that sense.

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And for Canello, you know,
a total professional, calm cool. There

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was just enough tension between the two
guys to make it interesting, but not

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a lot of you know, no
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a little little chatter between them.
The thing that I that I noticed

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about Canelo, you know, and
I've heard fighters talk about different, you

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know, various excuses through the years
about certain fights. But in this particular

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case, I believe Kennello when he
talks about how he just hasn't been right

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in terms of his hand for the
last three He said that since going into

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the Caleb Plant fight, Plant,
Beeboll, Triple G three, and John

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Ryder, he won those fights obviously, other than the Bible fight where he

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was outboxed and he knocked out the
Caleb Plant to become the undiscuted champion.

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He says he's had the surgery,
he's had now rehab, he's had fights.

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His hand, he says, is
at its best, and he just

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has this like sense of like this
simmering sort of thing underneath him where whenever

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Charlot said I'm going to do this, he says, he'll see, He'll

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see, just wait, He'll say, like he just he wants to get

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into and explode on this guy.
I think he's got a great chin,

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he's a good in fighter. He
can fight. Certainly going forward, his

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defense has always been underrated. He's
got one of the best chins in boxing.

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And one thing, let me bring
this up. It gave me pause

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was when Charlo, during our scrum
with him after the press conference, was

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asked about you know, can you
get a knockout this and that, and

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he brought up the time that Canelo
Alvarez. This was a fight that took

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place. I want to tell you
was on the Sugar Shane Mosley Floyd Mayweather

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undercard pay per view. This is
a long time ago. This was not

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Canello's first American fight, but one
of his early American fights. It was

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his first time being on like a
major American TV platform. He was on

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HBO pay per view on that undercard, even though he had fought on a

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couple of Spanish language shows and he
was getting a lot of hype. I

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can remember sitting there at ringside with
all the other guys at ringside, and

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in the first round against Jose Miguel
Coda, which is Miguel Codo's older brother,

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he got cracked and almost got knocked
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hurt very very end of the first
round. If the round is a couple

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more seconds he's probably gone, but
the bell rang and he survived, and

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he came back and he ended up
winning the fight. But he was extremely

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in big, big trouble right there, only time in his whole career,

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and I think he's ever had any
kind of trouble like that. And the

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point is that Charlotte brought that up, and I'm like, how why are

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you bringing up a fight from fifteen
years ago. We didn't even get knocked

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down. He was hurt, but
he didn't go down, and he's won

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every you know, big fight you
can think of over all these years,

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huge events, been championing, you
know, from one fifty four to one

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seventy five and taking punches from all
the big punchers canello out. I mean

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a Covalev and Triple G for thirty
six rounds and you know it, just

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a ton of quality fighters. That
that tells me that he's reaching for straws.

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If he got to go to back
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that was my perspective. Well,
especially if you've had, as you mentioned,

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light heavyweights banging on him, because
that's that was what a junior middleweight

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fight, twenty pounds less. I
think that act it was a welter that

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was a welterweight fight. Yeah,
that's thirty pounds less. So if you've

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had light heavyweights banging on you even
recently and you haven't gone down, then

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I'm with you on that. It
just seemed weird, that's all to me.

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Well, you're grasping at anything right
now. I mean, let's let's

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just lay something out there, just
for the record, that fight with Josen

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Mego Kodo, you know, one
of the guys who was one hundred and

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fifty pounds. One of the guys
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slightly over the welter weight linen.
Technically a junior middle weight fight, so

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yes, But but again, twenty
five pounds less than light heavyweights, you

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know, fifteen eighteen pounds less than
super middle weights where Canelo has been fighting

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for the last few years with people
hitting it more portly. The fight was

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in twenty ten, yes, long
ago, and let's and let's be honest,

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I just want to kind of set
the tone here at the outset.

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I'm looking at the bet Us odds, for example, where Canello's a four

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and a half to one favorite.
I'm actually surprised it's not a little more,

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but I think they're trying to entice
you to bet Canelo is the favorite.

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Canelo is the future Hall of Famer. Canelo is the guy that everybody

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believes is going to get this done, and the other guy is grasping,

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to use your word, he hasn't
even been active and he's coming off a

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broken hand. So I think there
is a lot of grasping right now as

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to what's going to happen, and
I think it's I think it's very fair

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to say this moment is bigger than
anything Jamal Charlo has ever been in,

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and Canello has routinely, to your
point, been in this moment for a

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decade of these fights. All of
that, I do. I do think

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Charlot is sort of you know,
I think he'll meet that moment in terms

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of like whether he wins or not, who knows. But I don't think

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that the moment is going to necessarily
unnerve him. He's been fighting in championship

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fights, maybe not at the name
level of a Canello Albarez, and he

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gives him his due respect in that
sense. When the mariachi band strikes up,

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let's see, you'll be in the
arena you'll report back to us,

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and we'll see how it looks on
the pay per view, and we'll find

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out. We're gonna find out exactly
exactly correct. The other thing about it,

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though, is the fact that,
uh, you know, you talk

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about he's a four and a half
favorite, four and f one, the

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favorite for all the different reasons.
He's all a famer in waiting. He's

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done all these things if you believe
that. The fact that the hand has

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been messed up for the last few
fights fair enough. But there's also the

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school of thought that after a long
career of over sixty professional fights against a

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lot of tough opponents, where even
though he won, he also took shots

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that at age thirty three, Kanello
Labarez is on the downside of the mountain,

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and that even though still a tremendous
fighter, he's not at his best

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anymore. And then he hasn't looked
good. He has admitted that, you

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know, he looked idly, looked
really good against Kayla plant but in the

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fight after that, people he lost
and now look great. He looked flat,

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even though he won handily against Glofkin, who was you know, old

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and kind of done at that point, and even against John Ridder, who

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we beat up and won handly.
He didn't knock him down or you know,

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or do any any I kid,
I didn't knock him down once,

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And now if I didn't knock him
out, he's the point against a regular

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type opponent, And so you kind
of think, well, you put it

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all together, maybe he's just not
what he wants was. But if it

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really was, man, maybe he
can still be at the top of his

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game. So that's where we're gonna
watch the fight. It's it's a fascinating

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fight. And the reality is Charlotte
was talking about, you know what,

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I can't wait for the rematch,
and people like, what do you mean.

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He's like, because I've heard you
know, he's got a rematch,

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Dolts, I want to kick his
ask. He's gonna want to do it

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again, and I'm gonna do it
again. Okay, So you'll hear from

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both of those fighters in a few
moments. Let's spend a few minutes talking

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about the undercard. We've talked a
lot about it. You interviewed Hazu's ramos

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and ericson lubin. We played those
on the previous podcast. They were meeting

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with the media Also on Thursday,
we also have the Ugas Barrios fight for

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the vacant WBC Interram welterweight title.
Elijah Garcia also on this card. I

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know you're stoked about the undercard.
I mean, you're normally there anyway a

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few hours before the main event,
but you're saying to everybody, Hey,

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this is worthwhile to be in the
arena or be in front of the pay

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per view even a few hours before
the Canelo fight. This is a good

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undercard. If not, I'll say
really good undercard, but it's a good

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undercard at least. Listen. I
always get on the case of promoters when

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they shoot me the bullshit line,
Al, We've got a stacked card,

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and I'm like, fuck that.
You don't have a stacked card. You

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got a good main event and a
couple of solid or average or below average

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fights on the show. You know, when I think stacked, you know,

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I go back to the those nineteen
nineties Don King pay per views,

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Revenge the rematches, where there was
just one great matchup, back where we

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would have like four championship or five
championship fights on the same pay per view.

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I know, you mean, look, I covered a fight in Atlantic

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City that had eight championship fights.
It was the whole card, with the

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entire every There was eight fights on
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King would scream five on the screen
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they televised five on the pay per
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televised fights that they take and show
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followed. Anyway, So maybe this
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for the modern pay per view that
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the better pay per view undercards I
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not big megafights and Superstar World Championship
fights, but Ramos against Lubin, as

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I've stated numerous times, I think
is a very quality matchup two very you

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know good fighters. Ramos on the
rise, Lubin trying to maintain a position

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you know, has a couple of
losses, but against you know, good

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opponents. Ramoss looked tremendously doing what
he's been doing. Good fight, who

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got Sam Barrios. There's stakes here
because the winner is going to have an

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interim belt and it's gonna be positioned
to either ab the mandatory for Crawford.

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But if he gives up the belt
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eventually, then that person will become
the WBC's champion. And they're both you

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know how they may not be at
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but they both have credentials. They
both have been in some notable fights ugus,

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you know, coming back off the
injury and the layoff after beating or

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after losing in a unification fight against
Errol Spence. You know, Barrios has

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been in the ring with some good
fighters. You know, obviously he tested

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Tank Davis before he got stopped in
their fight, you know, in one

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hundred forty pound weight class. Now
he's at welterweight. And in the Garcia

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fight, Elijah Garcia in the middleweight
against Jose Armando Rosendez. Uh Garcia is

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undefeated, very young. Rosinde's got
the one loss, but also pretty young.

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He made his bones in a big
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just a bab a barn Burner kind
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So that's a very good fight because
Garcia has looked superb in some fights

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and maybe even though he won a
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this is sort of a you know, a good fight for both guys,

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because if you beat the other guy, you definitely take a step forward in

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the middleweight division, which, as
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is devoid of a lot of top
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fight is not necessarily going to be
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a title right away, but it's
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position as a maybe the most interesting
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class. And it just took quality
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main event, so I'm pumped up
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time on Friday. Interesting that in
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bet Us line right now, Dan
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ericson Luban, a live doggie.
We're going to debate this at three to

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one, three to one as the
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fight. Ugas is the two to
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in his fight. So these are
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tells you again they they believe quality
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It's not one sided on the odds. Just one word, because I

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have said, you know, when
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they and everybody's ticked off about it, you know, I have my say,

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and so I feel like it's only
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right thing and they make a good
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later on on the podcast, but
without further delay. After the press conference

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for Canello and Jamel, Charlo Dan
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mostly hear Dan's questions on the Q
and A here first with Jamal Charlo and

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then with Canelo Alvarez. Let's get
again my man is ol on location.

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Let's take advantage of the audio Charlo
and then Cannello from Wednesday in Vagus.

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He made a good point about him
having been heard before in his career.

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Anybody can be heard, right,
Yeah, boxing is about how many times

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you get back up? Now?
How many times to go down? Ye?

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Do you have any concerns? If
you do? What are they about

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the fact that you haven't fought for
a while. It's been since the Castagnia

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second fight, so it's been quite
a while. I think I'm I have

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no concerns about I've never had a
concern about sharpness and ratingness, no ring

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rust and none of that kind of
stuff, because I don't exist in boxing

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for real. That only existing writers, because they don't get to see us

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off here, so a writer would
consider us not active or whatever they want

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to say. How you've heard trainers
talk about it also? Frankly, well

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would ring rust come from? I
mean, how can you be ring rusted

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whenever you've been spawning in training and
busting the wisse and putting all that hard,

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gritty nitty working. How could you
say, yeah, you ring rust.

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That's an excuse. Okay, that's
an excuse that they're using to justify

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the bad performance. So he has
talked about that reason for maybe he's not

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as top level performance as he has
wanted in his recent fights Triple G and

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The Writer Fight, et cetera.
People because of his hand surgery and that

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he had the problem. Now he
says it's healthy. So my question for

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you is, what's the status if
you're left hand obviously had the two fractures.

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Ye don't you know? I don't
speak on those things because you know,

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I don't want to make an excuse
for myself. I want to get

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in there and l dog dame.
You've been watching it for a long time.

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You know that I come to fight. I come and put the pressure.

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I come to the box. I
mix it up. I mean,

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I fight through adversity. Whatever happens
has to happen. God got this written

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for me. So I'm not really
too much gonna go into like, oh,

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let me. You know, they
say, hey, you need to

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do therapy, You need to do
therapy, all right, I do therapy

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for the rest of my life.
Long does our box, I'd be doing

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therapy on that hand, I'll be
trying to make it stronger and stronger and

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better than ever. So so you
win this fight, it's a huge,

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huge accompliment. Obviously a lot of
people say it's a hall of fame type

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of ceiling thing for you. I
wonder, beyond this, what else could

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you in your mind think about?
What would be bigger than this? Like,

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what else would you want to accomplish? What could you accomplish? Like

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I would? I would, I
would definitely, you know, love to

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become the you know, number one
bookseller and make out and write this story

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or maybe have y'all get the highest
producers and we could a biography on this.

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But in what in boxing? Though
about my boxing, in my life,

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but in your actual boxing, Like, is there anything that you think

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that could beyond this achievement? When, if, and when you win?

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And I, you know, that's
the greatest thing. I don't care about

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all that achievement and stuff. I
don't get paid for these accolades. I

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don't get after you accomplishment, the
rewards I get paid when I'll fight,

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of course, But I don't get
old. You know, I'm getting hired

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like Dan repel On, yespian all
because I was a two times champion like

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that. It don't make a difference
for me, you know what I'm saying.

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I just don't live in my life
like that. There's been a commis

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about you this week throughout this fight. You can you tell us where that's

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coming from. You just seem so
little action. I'm just a common person

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and for real, always been a
calm person. I don't know what y'all

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be talking about. Y'all see y'all
seated something maybe maybe just my facial expressions

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and and all of that kind of
create that like you know, then y'all

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be moanful over talking to me,
and y'all start over talking to me.

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Then now now y'all listening to me, so I'm calm, and you start

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telling telling me all this other crazy
shire, then I I want to defend

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myself. I haven't been in a
position to have to vocally defend me.

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Thank you. Guys. You mentioned
that having work second child really is what

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you your life? Why do you
think that is? And how to delace

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like on the bost Yeah, because
it's like you do things around the house

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and you do things and just everything
every time, and you just can't.

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You just gotta be patient, and
you can't just you know, discipline every

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time you feel like it's it's necessary. And so when you deal with you

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know, little kids, and you
deal with people to look up to you

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and they meet you, you you
don't want to live your life and and

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and be having a yelling bus all
day or kids put put your fearing kids

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and stuff like that. So I
feel like that changed my life and just

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how to deal with other people.
Get all that's how was it there?

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You're two years old? Two years
old? But it's just it helps.

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You don't got no children gonna have. So they've ben't see it. On

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that fight, they have rematch glows
in the contract. Yes it's a rematch

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clause. It's much so that's why
I mentioned that in the press conference.

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I'm looking forward to prematch because Polo
forget I don't win this fight, then

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of course he moves on to the
contract that he has to fulfill for PCC.

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A lot of people switching at the
meaning to say it is it it's

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a psyche or is it just glow
gonna surprise people? The way you could

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surprise it people demeanor in the ring
as well. Man, Look I don't

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know what they're talking about. My
demeanor is this This is really neat,

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like, uh, I'm more than
ready. Well fight, Uh, I'll

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turn it up, turn it off
when I needed to, I get in

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the ring. This have off taking
them so being thiscious at every moment,

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every stuff that at twelve round to
the tunes. I mean Charlotte has been

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frown to like engage in like tell
the tee combat it's just fights to get

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Harrison because stuff. Yeah, very
different and a different fighter. If he

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does that against you, what's gonna
have the right? I'm a different fighter

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than them. You know, he's
gonna feel saddled to night. He's gonna

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be different. And for me,
I'm more even myself this kind of fight

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because you know, he never believed
my kids and now I had the opportunity.

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I have to the opportunity to show
him. So it's gonna he's gonna

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be different for him. How confident
are you? I know you your hand

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is all heeled, you know everything's
fine. You really want to reclaim you

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know who you are in the sport. How happy are you about I'm so

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happy about that. I'm so happy
and excited because you know, I'm able

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to turn hundred percent and I have
that confideling again me because on my hand,

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I can throw my hand hundred percent, and and that made me feel

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confident without a doubt. Is Terence
Crawford going to be your next opponent in

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victory? No? I don't know. And I come and I'm focused on

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the person on child and then we
want to sit down and see what is

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next? Was that? You know? How was this camp different? Because

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your wrist in your hand was better
than before? How was oh different?

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I was training happy and golfing and
confident and working with Eddie in the paths

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and and everything because you know before
I can't throw my hand hard. I

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just tried to get condition as much
as I can, but I don't know,

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I don't hit that carring. When
you go in the fight and try

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to hit hard and everything, you
get tired, right and right now I'm

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I feel in my hundred percent and
you just just wait for for Saturday.

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This camp was way better than the
campital. It's one of the best I've

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come. I either had better for
the much better than for the Rider fight.

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Yeah, the rider I still have. I can throw my hand hundred

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percent? Was the hand give you
problems for bow three? Since the fight

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with with Calo Tran? Since the
training camp with Calo came up to the

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rider you were having was a left
hand? Yeah, and you know he

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had a broken left hand. No, you said that you had problems with

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that. He doesn't want to talk
about that. Do you think that that

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he could possibly be one hundred percent
after having the tarchers? And I don't

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know what kind of tell you he
had, but you don't you know,

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I don't care. I'm ready and
and that's all matters because you know I'm

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able and I'm happy because but I
don't I don't care what he's gonna feed

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him or I don't really care.
When was it? When was it?

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When was it that he said that? When was it that he said that

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00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:33,960
he didn't believe in your skills?
Like I never heard him say that?

405
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,880
Where did you? No? No, no, first hear that. He

406
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,920
never said he don't believe in me
in that in that wards, but he

407
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:45,759
always chat about me, and he
always calling me out and he always be

408
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,200
I'm not that fighting they show and
everything you know he brought up the fact

409
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,519
that you got hurt by Miguel Coto's
brother. What is that? Why would

410
00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,720
he bring that up? The best
chins in box is his only fight.

411
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,279
He can say that because he's the
only fight. I have the struggles,

412
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,519
right, But I'm I'm you know, I'm defense. I fought with everybody

413
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:17,119
with the somebody with the song,
guys with the skills, guys. I

414
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,559
don't know what to say. He's
been very respectful and calmed, much more

415
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,359
calm than he usually is in promotions
for fights. What do you make of

416
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,559
that? I'm happy, I'm happy. You know, I'm happy he respect

417
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,960
me. Do you think that's what
it is? Like? He just really

418
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,480
respects you more so than you have
that once more, you were standing right

419
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:41,039
there with both of them during that
Q and A. You will see them

420
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:42,559
obviously at the way in on Friday, but this is like one of the

421
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,960
last times that they're talking before fists
on Saturday. Final thought being around him,

422
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,240
professionals ready to go to battle.
No, it's a big fight and

423
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,319
ready to do the business. And
I think give us a give us something

424
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,839
that's going to be interesting to watch. Again. We will talk more.

425
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,559
Second time mentioned on the bet us
Boxing Show the over under his ten and

426
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:04,920
a half rounds. By the way, Dan and I will debate that on

427
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,640
the Friday show at one Eastern time, bet US platforms, bet US YouTube

428
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,559
channel about how in play is that
over under for this matchup? Again,

429
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,799
Canello's basically fought distance fights, with
the exception of the plant stoppage the last

430
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:21,640
what the last three of all been
distance fights, And we don't know what

431
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,279
to make a Charlo. He got
a TKO in his last fight, but

432
00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:29,200
I think that was during the Jimmy
Carter administration. Whenever, whenever Charlo last

433
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,359
fought in any event. All right, so you've done a good job setting

434
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,359
the table with the fighters. Let's
talk more about how the fans can see

435
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this fight with one of our sponsors
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436
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we are counting down to Canelo Alvarez
Jamel Charlo undisputed super middleweight title fight coming

437
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up Saturday night in Las Vegas,
and once more we get the opportunity to

438
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,240
talk with Mark Bocardi, who is
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439
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for in Demand and PPV dot Com, because they are fantastic partners and sponsors

440
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of ours, and we want you
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441
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go see this fight via PPV dot
com without a subscription. We're going to

442
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:14,440
tell you more about that. Mark. Good to have you. I know

443
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,279
I am displaced. You are there
in Vegas. So we're doing this building

444
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:22,359
up to the weekend. It is
fight week, it is Canelo week.

445
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,920
There's I mean, it's always something
special when this guy's around in Las Vegas.

446
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,079
Canelo. Yeah, oh absolutely,
there's an energy in Vegas when you

447
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:36,680
have a Canelo fight week that's unlike
most other boxers fight weeks. So yeah,

448
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,720
it's exciting me back up and fortunate
enough to be here for a few

449
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,920
Canelo fight weeks and this one,
you know, stacks up with with all

450
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,319
of them so far. So it's
going to be good to be a lot

451
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,839
of fun. And again it's undisputed
versus undisputed because Jamal Charlo, even though

452
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:52,880
he hasn't been in the ring yet
in twenty twenty three, is the undisputed

453
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,960
one hundred and fifty four pound champ
And that's part of the appeal here,

454
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,519
and that's that's why we want people
to be engaged. That's why we want

455
00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:03,000
them to be in age with PPV
dot Com because you're seeing a part of

456
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,359
history, especially if somehow, some
way Charlo can pull off in Upset moving

457
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,440
up two weight classes. Right,
Oh absolutely. I mean, look,

458
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,079
you start with Canello for this event, and you've got a absolute superstar in

459
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:22,240
boxing in Canelo Alvarez, probably one
of the top five Mexican boxers of all

460
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:25,160
time, and you can argue where
he falls on that list, but you're

461
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,400
watching history whenever Canelo fights now,
which is incredible. Now you bring along

462
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,839
Charlo and what he's trying to accomplish, and you get the two of them

463
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:34,480
together, and that that's what leads
to these mega events, right, It's

464
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:40,319
it's a a level against a level
kind of fight and fighters and that creates

465
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:42,400
the firework. So it's going to
be a great night. And you're right,

466
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,079
I mean, Charlo could pull the
Upset off. He really could.

467
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,839
This guy's talented. He hasn't yet
been a a level drawn a pay per

468
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,400
view, but he's fought plenty on
his own and proved himself, so he

469
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,440
deserves this. So it's it's gonna
be fun. Should be it should be

470
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,759
a lot of fun. And again
we often refer to this with Canelo he

471
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,680
is going to be a first ballot
unanimous Hall of Famer and you're getting to

472
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,039
see him in action, and we
don't know. We're not making him out

473
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:07,720
to be done like next year,
but we don't know how many more of

474
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,519
these are going to be these big
time events because he is thirty three years

475
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:15,160
old, he's been on the big
stage, he's got his money, he's

476
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,519
got his Hall of Fame credentials,
place in history, as you mentioned,

477
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,720
So we just got to sabor these
in anytime if they're out there, and

478
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,759
I know with PPV dot Com you've
got something special for this fight because we

479
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,519
had Jim Lampley on this very podcast
back a few weeks ago telling us that

480
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:36,599
the iconic Hall of Fame Voice of
HBO Boxing is going to be part of

481
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,920
the PPV dot Com special commentary and
broadcast that they're going to be getting interactively

482
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,880
if they are with you and your
service, tell us more about Jim and

483
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,640
Lance Plugmeyer as well, that are
going to be going back and forth with

484
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,920
the commentary. I know you guys
are thrilled to have this. Yeah,

485
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,759
yeah, we are, and it's
gonna it's gonna be great. So your

486
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,160
listeners will probably remember When I've been
on here before and we've talked about PPV

487
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,160
dot Com. One of the cool
things about it is there's this real time

488
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:04,680
chat that happens alongside the fight,
So we have fans chatting with each other,

489
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:08,960
we have fans chatting with hosts that
we bring in who are journalists or

490
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:14,839
boxers themselves, retired boxers, etc. And for this weekend's fight for Canelo

491
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,599
Charlo, we will have both the
iconic Jim Lambley as well as the legendary

492
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:25,680
boxing journalists Lance Pugmeyer co hosting together. As you said, we are really

493
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,160
looking forward to it. These are
the two biggest names that we've had together

494
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:33,920
as chat co hosts, and I
think everyone knows what Jim's credentials are in

495
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,680
boxing, so to have him a
part of PPV dot com and quite frankly,

496
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:40,359
it's going to be different than him
just calling the event, which would

497
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,440
be fantastic on its own because he's
so great at it, but here he's

498
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,359
really going to be sharing I think, his thoughts, his opinions. Fans

499
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,599
can ask him specific questions he'll be
there to answer, so that's going to

500
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,640
be a great way for fans to
engage with Jim unlike any time that he's

501
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,759
ever been involved in boxing before.
And that's a great point that you make.

502
00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:00,920
It's one thing to get to hear
him with some of the great calls,

503
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,599
you know, the Buster Douglass upset
of Mike Tyson, so many tremendous

504
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:07,160
Oscar Dave o'hoya, Floyd Mayweather,
and then even Canello Alvarez. Let us

505
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,640
not forget Jim worked a great many
of Canelo Alvarez fights all the way up

506
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,240
into the lake to twenty teens,
including the first two Canelo Glovekin fights.

507
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,039
But how often do you get a
chance to interact with him? That's the

508
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,000
point. And you're gonna get a
chance for a little while, for at

509
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,640
least an hour or two, to
interact with a Hall of fame broadcaster on

510
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,559
what he thinks. And I know
he said to us that he's kind of

511
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:36,039
missed being around these big events,
being around Las Vegas, being around a

512
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:37,720
Canello fight. So he has fired
up as well to be part of what

513
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:41,960
you're doing on PPB dot com.
He is, And I've been around Vegas

514
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,400
with him a bit already this week, and I can see he's re energized,

515
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,400
he's excited, he's re energized.
He's the kind of guy that you

516
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,119
walk around fight week with. People
are stopping him right Everyone wants to take

517
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,519
a picture with him, talk to
him for a minute, you know,

518
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:57,359
get a second with him, so
we can see. There's just a natural

519
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,279
appeal that he has to the boxing
community. So I think it's gonna be

520
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:06,240
really special on Saturday Night during the
event, and Jim will be there,

521
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,119
by the way, during the entire
card, not just the main event,

522
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:10,920
so he'll be there for all,
you know whatever. It ends up being

523
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,680
four four and a half hours of
boxing content, so fans will have plenty

524
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,599
of time all night to interact with
him, asking questions and just be a

525
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,480
part of the evening. We can't
wait for this, so again, one

526
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,000
more time. The biggest appeal for
PPV dot com and what you guys do

527
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,759
is there is no long term commitment. You don't need a six month subscription

528
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:32,759
to an outlet, much less a
year or longer. If you're just looking

529
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,200
to purchase the pay per view,
have it in high quality, and have

530
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:42,400
the interaction. We're just talking about
PPV dot com. That is where it

531
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,119
is at Mark one more time.
That's it. That's exactly right. You

532
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,000
have a zero month subscription obligation because
there is no subscription and you just buy

533
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,279
what you want and enjoy it.
And we think everyone's going to really enjoy

534
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,960
this one on PPV dot Com.
Yeah, no doubt. I mean,

535
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,640
we were obviously involved with you for
the Errolspins Terrence Crawford fight, which was

536
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,640
so one sided. I hope we
don't get that, and we might from

537
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,920
Canelo. I don't know that it
would be one sided in favor of Charlo

538
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:10,200
only, but we had a one
sided one this summer. But we've had

539
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,279
other spectacle once. You guys have
had Jake Paul fights that have been on

540
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,759
and on and on down the list
available on PPV dot com, and Canelo

541
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,279
is just the latest one in a
history making undisputed versus undisputed Saturday night.

542
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,599
Yeah, that's exactly right. Spence
Crawford was, you know, one sided

543
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,480
domination. Davis Garcia another right one
sided fight a prior, a few moments

544
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:37,720
of excitement, but one sided domination. We had Canello Golofkin also less September

545
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:42,200
as well, big Canelo win and
he won that pretty convincingly. So so

546
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,680
we've had a string of really big
events as you mentioned Jake Paul and others,

547
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,680
So this is this is yet another
one, and then we'll see what

548
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,240
the rest of the year brings.
We we've heard, we're hearing some good

549
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,240
things about big boxing events for the
rest of the year, but nothing quite

550
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:58,359
finalized yet. So we'll be here
and we'll be broadcasting them. Here's what

551
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:02,119
we know. Canello Charlows Saturday Night
in Laws Vegas and if they're looking to

552
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,440
purchase PPV dot com is where you
go for the one off opportunity to see

553
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:13,320
this fight again in ten ADP four
K whatever and Jim Lampley and Lance Plugmy

554
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,239
are there interactively. I love it. I wish I was there around you

555
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,039
guys, and you were such gracious
host. We even got to go see

556
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:23,559
Jerry Seinfeld with you guys over at
Caesar's Palace. It was fantastic. I'm

557
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:27,400
still laughing about Jerry's jokes. I
wish I could be there. I'm in

558
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,199
NFL world, in NFL duties with
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Big Easy

559
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,199
in New Orleans. My man Rayphael
is there make sure he behaves. God

560
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,079
knows I can't be there to make
sure that he behaves and we love it.

561
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,360
And one more time to the people
PPV dot com. That's where it

562
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,480
is. That's it, that's where
it is. Thanks for having me again.

563
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:50,719
We thank them for sponsoring us.
And as Mark was saying, Canelo

564
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,440
Week is something different. They've been
involved with this numerous times within demand and

565
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,440
PPV dot com. Let's see and
it's it's part of what has been a

566
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,719
roll call a big time Vegas fights. We've yet to really mention it on

567
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,039
this podcast, but you were talking
about it on the last one that you

568
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,719
start with Jervonte Davis, Ryan Garcia, you move forward to Devin Haney,

569
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,800
the Silly Lomachenko, and then to
Errol Spans, Terrence Crawford, now Canello

570
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,519
and Charlo. This is the fourth
fight in Vegas of a pay per view

571
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:21,440
variety that has a lot of notoriety. There's something to be said for that

572
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,440
in Sin City, in the place
to go, the place. That's why

573
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:28,679
ray Feel is there, baby,
That's why ray Feel is on location here

574
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,239
on the parts. Unfortunately wasn't able
to get out here for the Haney and

575
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,519
the Loma fight. But this is
my third trip to Vegas this year.

576
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:37,400
I mean, if you go back
years ago when I was at ESPN s

577
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,800
though, there were years where I
made like literally like ten trips to Vegas

578
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,679
in a given calendar, besides going
to places like New York and Los Angeles

579
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,679
another places around the country. But
you know, Vegas is always the stalwart.

580
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,880
It's always where most of the biggest
fights are and it's like old Home

581
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,119
Week, no doubt. And again
PPV dot com, you don't need any

582
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,920
form of a subscription. It's just
a one off purchase for Saturday, which

583
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:02,119
just you use them. And again
Dan, as we were mentioning with Mark

584
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:07,039
and you know this because you Internet. Jim Lampley on the running commentary through

585
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:08,800
the whole pay per view. He
and Lance pug Meyer are both there.

586
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:15,519
So that's great stuff as part of
the interactive on PPB dot COM's you know,

587
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,239
Lance one of my one of my
best buddies in the business. And

588
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,199
Lampley is also and we're with a
group of people. We're gonna have dinner.

589
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,639
You're heading out to dinner here in
just a little while, and I'm

590
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,599
not part of that because I'm not
out there in Vegas. So you have

591
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,000
to behave you have to promise me
you're gonna behave because I'm not out there

592
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:34,920
to chaperone this goal around out in
Vegas like this. For the record,

593
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,199
when you were out here for this
Fence Crawford fight, I was the one

594
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,280
that to make sure that you were
behaved. That's not the other way around,

595
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,199
Thank you very Muchly true. All
right. There is another title fight,

596
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,360
by the way, before we get
to the news, and that title

597
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:52,519
fight is a cruiserweight championship belt uh
the IBF cruiserweight title, Ji Opataia taking

598
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,840
on Jordan Thompson. This is in
London, in England. Opataia won the

599
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,280
title a while back and suffered a
very badly broken jaw. You love when

600
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,639
I get technical and orthopedic. It
was a bilateral fracture, meaning the entire

601
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:09,679
bottom of his mouth broken, jaw
all the way across. So he's back

602
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,159
from that first title defense. A
quick thought or two is this is Saturday

603
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,639
afternoon US time before the Canelo Charlot
pay per view. Thoughts real quick Dan

604
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,039
in the preview mode. Well,
first of all, I know you mentioned

605
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that Opataia is the IBF champion defending
that title. He is twenty two o

606
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,679
seventy knockots. He also was the
lineal champion because he took the title from

607
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,880
Myrs Bradis, who earned that recognition
post the moving up in weight of Alexander

608
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,519
Us who he had lost to previously. But so this he's like the real

609
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:44,159
cruiserweight champ if you ask me and
anybody else that follows this thing closely.

610
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,360
But Opataia you mentioned in that fight
he had with Bradest, which was his

611
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,760
last fight in July of last year, so it's been a you know,

612
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,440
a little over a year layoff,
had a terribly broken jaw. He fought

613
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:58,639
through it and won the fight and
the title against Bradas in a unanimous decision

614
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,920
that took place in his home country
of Australia. A well deserved unanimous decision

615
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,079
in one of the fights of the
year. Just an absolute grinding, grueling,

616
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,440
physical, punishing kind of fight.
I would if you haven't seen it,

617
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,079
I would urge anybody to seek it
out online. It's just just a

618
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:16,840
really, very very impressive battle between
those two guys. So he's coming back

619
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,800
first first defense. He was supposed
to have a rematch with Bradest, he

620
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,800
got an exception. Bradest was okay
with it. He was also a little

621
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,079
dinged up in ill I guess and
and was like, you know, I'd

622
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:30,039
go ahead and fight this optional defense. So the winner between Opataia and Thompson

623
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:35,119
is supposed to then fight Bradest,
perhaps a rematch with Opatiah. And you

624
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:38,320
know Opataia is from Australia, but
him and his team Tasman Fighters, they

625
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,199
did a co promotion deal with with
match Room Boxing, so he's on his

626
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,760
own. He's fighting in London.
That you know. Jordan Thompson is from

627
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:51,159
England and he's fifteen to oh but
he's taking and he disputes this based on

628
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:52,639
his comments leading up the fight,
but in my mind I think those if

629
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:57,960
you just do an honest assessment of
the Jordan Thompson record, despite being undefeated,

630
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:01,559
he's taking a very big step wemp
in competition against Opataiah, who,

631
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:05,000
even before he won the title,
was sort of known as like an uprand

632
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:07,639
comer, had been an Olympian,
and let's be honest, I don't really

633
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,920
know anything about him, and you
could just be honest, how much do

634
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,920
you know about him? And that
says it all about step up in competition

635
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,880
because I didn't really know anything about
this guy before Matt Room got him this

636
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,599
title shot. I mean, I
know a little bit about him because he's

637
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:21,840
been on some of these other undercards. So I've seen him a couple of

638
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,760
times, and you know he's one
like you know he's fighting for the IBF.

639
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Hell, he's won like the regional
belts and fought on on those types

640
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,239
of undercards that would put him in
that position. And you know, the

641
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,039
one thing he's got going for him, if you take a look at the

642
00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:37,760
pictures, is as much taller than
than Opataia. As an example, like

643
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,320
I saw him, he boxed on
the undercard and this was a great fight.

644
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:45,639
Remember when rock him Off had the
belter with Cordina back in April this

645
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,159
year and Cordina regained the title.
So Thompson fought on that undercard in a

646
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,079
regional belt and won that fight that
kind of put him in position that was

647
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:57,719
a knockout. So look, I
think I like just on my brief experience,

648
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,320
I've having lost a couple of Opataia
fights and known as back Brown and

649
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,960
kind of his attitude, he's a
fun fighter to watch and we'll see if

650
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,719
Tom's gonna hanging there. He's a
much taller fighter. Sometimes the bigger they

651
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,400
are the harder they fall. But
that's the main event of the The Zone

652
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,000
show, maybe not the biggest championship. I see him. I'm just I'm

653
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,440
happy to see that Opti has recovered
from the jaw problem. He's got an

654
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,360
opportunity to get back in the ring
and defend the title, and hopefully he

655
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:22,840
and Thompson can give us a nice
fighting some news, then some nostalgia.

656
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,159
Ray Fhiel's already tapping his watch looking
at me. I can see him on

657
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:29,119
video. Because you want to go
to dinner. I get this. I'll

658
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:32,239
get a lion to the people.
Look, I'm just saying you've already made

659
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,719
mention that you've got dinner plans.
I get it. It's Vegas. The

660
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,880
city never sleeps. I understand you're
there, by the way. I haven't

661
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,840
mentioned yet. I'm headed at the
Big Easy this weekend in New Orleans,

662
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,280
the site of Muhammad Ali regaining the
heavyweight title against Leon Spinks in the Superdome

663
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,280
for Tampa Bay Buccaneers football. So
I will be watching from the Big Easy

664
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,280
while you're there at the ringside.
I think going on. When I think

665
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,360
New Orleans, it's the place where
I covered by one and only Fighting Orleans,

666
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,119
Roy Jones against Eric Harding an eight
alligator for the only time in my

667
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,559
life. You've got that up before. And there's so much other good food

668
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:08,840
in New Orleans besides just alligator,
but you did have alligator. All right.

669
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:15,199
Some news and a kind of a
somber note here because the passing of

670
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,679
Colonel Bob Sheridan, who for so
many years was known in and around Don

671
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,559
King's pay per views and tape delays
of fights, dozens and dozens, if

672
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:29,000
not several hundred of those that he
did. He had been sick for a

673
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:32,000
while he passed away. Hall of
Fame broadcaster, You are the perfect man

674
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:36,519
to talk about the passing of Colonel
Bob Sheridan. Well, I had had

675
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:38,639
a good relationship and a close relationship
with the colonel for many many years.

676
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:42,159
I mean when I first broke into
the business and went to a lot of

677
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:45,000
those Don King cards. And by
the way, not only did he work

678
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,159
for Don King, he also spent
many many years doing the international broadcast for

679
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,400
Top Break. He's one of the
few people in this business that had great

680
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,239
relationships both with Bob Aarman with Don
King, and worked for both of their

681
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,000
companies for a long time when I
broke in and I would go to those

682
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,719
don King shows. The two of
the people that I spent a lot of

683
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,360
time with and learned a lot about
this business from, and spent you know,

684
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,519
hours of just shooting the ship and
kind of getting taught the ropes and

685
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,639
maybe having breakfast with and just you
know, kind of following them around like

686
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:12,880
a puppy dog sort of like early
in my days, was the Colonel and

687
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,079
you know, his his great pal
and running mate who was the vice president

688
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:19,639
of don King Operations back in the
day who passed, uh you know,

689
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,079
not that long ago himself, was
the great Hall of Famer Bobby Goodman,

690
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,400
who was the vice president for DKP
and a matchmaker and have been involved with

691
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,239
so many great fighters over the years. And so the two of those guys,

692
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:32,599
who were very close to each other, you know, took me under

693
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:36,039
their wing and in a certain respect
and taught me a whole lot about this

694
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:37,599
business. And uh, you know, I'm appreciated that I spent a lot

695
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,400
of great times with those guys.
And the Colonel I We've always get together

696
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,519
at the fights and kind of became
a joke between us because he would be

697
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:45,400
doing all these fights, and he
kind of, you know, he'd read

698
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,360
my material and I would talk him
on the phone and he would know,

699
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,880
you know, had like kind of
a rain man quality of the minutia of

700
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,639
a lot of these different fighters.
Don't say that. The colonel realized that

701
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,119
too, Yes, So he would
have his sheets all set up for his

702
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,320
you know, to have some background
when he was calling these fights. And

703
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,039
we would sit in the press room
before, like you know, earlier in

704
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:05,719
the week of the fights, and
he would sit there and like ask me

705
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,039
questions. We would go over.
I would give him like the like the

706
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,760
cliffs notes about some of the guys
he didn't really know a whole lot about.

707
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:13,480
And it also became a thing because
the colonel who was in the Hall

708
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:16,519
of Fame well deserved. I attended
his Hall of Fame induction tournament, and

709
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:21,119
I sat in the front row with
some of the people from his family and

710
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:24,400
stuff, and the Colonel shouted me
out in his induction speech was I was

711
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,559
quite honored by I didn't expect it
then, noe was coming. I've been

712
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,199
shouting out in two Hall of Fame
induction speeches. The Colonel and my very

713
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,079
close friend Brad Goodman from Top Brink, who was inducted this past summer.

714
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,719
In any event, the Colonel was
keeping track roughly of the world championship fights

715
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,320
that he had called. He called
in the end over one thousand world title

716
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,519
fights. That's title fights, the
four major organizations for his career that began

717
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:52,400
in the nineteen sixties calling fights he
called in access of ten thousand boxing matches,

718
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,360
way over ten thousand boxing matches.
And we would keep track of the

719
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,320
number of fights that he did,
and he was getting into the nine and

720
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,400
they were coming slower and slower.
It's like, are going to get to

721
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,920
a thousand, and he finally got
to a thousand world title fights. I

722
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:07,280
forget what he I don't I don't
know what he ended with, but probably

723
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:13,320
close to eleven hundred world championship fights. I mean, you know. And

724
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,159
the thing that always stuck to me
about the colonel, and I could talk

725
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,440
to about him for an hour,
but I know we're kind of short on

726
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:21,079
time. We got some other stuff
to cover. But the one thing he

727
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:24,199
always made a point to me because
where I would maybe take umbradge with certain

728
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,000
things that were said or reported or
written, and I would have my say

729
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,679
and rip people and call them about
things and write my opinions. The colonel

730
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,039
never had a bad word to say
about anybody because no matter what it was,

731
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:38,880
he viewed himself as he would always
say to me, you're a journalist,

732
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,880
I'm an entertainer. So you go
with you do what I'm going to

733
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,639
say, what I gotta say.
So I always respected the colonel for at

734
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,960
least being honest about that that we
were. We were doing different jobs.

735
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,000
But even you know in recent year
years, and he had been sick forever.

736
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:53,400
This is a guy that had a
heart attack and left the hospital and

737
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:57,239
called hi, Mike Tyson, fight
at ringside with the doctor sitting behind him,

738
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,800
and then went back to the hospital. Story a lot of the story.

739
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,719
I mean, that's a true story. That is a true story.

740
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,760
Wow, So he's been sick for
a long time. I just think that,

741
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:07,440
you know, he had a lot
of elements over the years. I

742
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:10,519
don't think he ever recovered from the
death of his beloved wife Annie a few

743
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:15,800
years ago and they're back together now. Yeah. But he was a wonderful

744
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,800
guy, a gregarious guy. Every
He didn't have an enemy in the world

745
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,719
in this sport. To my knowledge, everybody you know like to hang around

746
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:22,719
with him and drink with him,
smoke with him. Whatever. It was

747
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:28,920
just the truest of true when you
say it's something about a person who was

748
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,920
a character in boxing. He was
a character in boxing. I will miss

749
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,400
him, and uh, you know
what can I say? It was?

750
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,039
I was happy I got a chance
to be his friend for so long.

751
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,400
Old school for sure. And he
would do a lot of the tape delay

752
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,440
versions of the Don King fights that
we would maybe see later on. A

753
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:46,519
bunch of them are on YouTube,
by the way, including I would say

754
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:50,760
the one that I gravitate to the
most, and most people would probably say

755
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,159
this have they become familiar is the
Douglas upset of Tyson with him on the

756
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,960
call. Everybody knows Jim Lampley,
Sugar Ray Leonard, Larry Merchant and the

757
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:01,440
HBO call, but the Bob shared
and call in real time from ringside on

758
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:07,000
the delay for Don King still wasn't
a delay Where else was it going internationally?

759
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,920
Right? Besides, I think about
the Colonel is he was not known

760
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:14,920
as well in America, but everywhere
else in the world where those fights were

761
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,880
shown often he was the call.
If you're watching the fight in Australia,

762
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,840
if you're watching that fight in different
places in Europe, if you're watching sometimes

763
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,000
in Canada, if you're watching it
in the UK. His call went around

764
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:27,719
the world. He called you know, the rumble in the Jungle. He

765
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,480
called a billion big fights. If
I said to you a thousand world championship

766
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:37,079
fights, pick up big fighter,
Tyson Chavez, Oscar Floyd pack you out.

767
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:39,239
Uh. You know the Four Kings. He did a lot of those

768
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,360
international shows for all these guys.
Just a fucking legend. And again that

769
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,239
moment in Tokyo, he rises to
the occasion just like everybody else on how

770
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,440
stunning all of that was. So
salute to Colonel Bob Sharan passing away from

771
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:58,320
this one. We definitely say salute
on that. Absolutely all right, it's

772
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,880
quickly some news. Then we got
some Marvel and Haggler nostalgia and we're done.

773
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:07,000
They have announced don't snicker the pay
per view undercard for Tyson Fury and

774
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:10,880
Francis and Ghanu coming up at the
end of October. Anything noteworthy. I'm

775
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,719
gonna give them credit that the main
event between Fury and Naganu. You know,

776
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,159
people have their opinions. Some people
say it's a fucking farce. Some

777
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,079
people are excited. Whatever you think
about the main event, the undercard they

778
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,679
put together is actually a pretty solid
it's all heavyweight pay per view, so

779
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,800
that's interesting. You know, you
could see the big guys. So they

780
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,639
got a very good British fight between
Fabio Awardley and David Adlier who got into

781
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,440
a big fucking brawl and there was
chaos at the at the red carpet when

782
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,760
they did the press conference in London
a few weeks ago, which sort of

783
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,159
stoked h this fight even more.
So that's a very interesting fight to me.

784
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,079
I mean, these are two guys, you know, both undefeated,

785
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,000
both on the rise, both in
their still in their twenties, and they're

786
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,719
they're putting it on the line.
So that's that's a that's an interesting fight

787
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,800
for for the division. He got
Tyson's good buddy Joe Parker, the former

788
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,880
w BO title older he is in
the in the card, He's taken on

789
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,719
the once beaten uh Simon Keen from
Canada in a ten rounder, so nothing

790
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,639
wrong with that fight. These are
both guys that still have aspirations to do

791
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,159
bigger things and just gonna position the
winner with in a pretty good spot.

792
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:13,119
And then they got the Montreal based
Russian fighter Arslan Beck Mak McDow is on

793
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:16,039
this card. He's fighting a fighter
from Croatia, not not somebody that I'm

794
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:21,400
that familiar with, and a guy
named Agron's mass Sicky. We'll see what

795
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,559
happens to that. But but but
mam, you did a beautiful job with

796
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:28,000
those names. Mac mcdouba is,
like, you know, he's been seen

797
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,320
in a lot of the Canadian cards
because Top Rank has an agreement with I

798
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,320
the Tiger. A lot of his
recent some of his recent fights have been

799
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,320
on ESPN Plus, so you can
definitely see them. He's a good puncher,

800
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:40,639
you know, seventeen wins but sixteen
knockouts, and so they're they're putting

801
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,679
on, you know, kind of
a good little cross section of these of

802
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,360
these heavyweights that are trying to break
out underneath, you know, the two

803
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,639
big heavyweights in the main event.
And then they have the Frank Warren prospect

804
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,440
Moses the Tama in a six rounder
who's only eighteen years old, but five

805
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:58,519
and already with three knockouts. No
a pony yet he's in a sixth rounder,

806
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:00,679
and that's your pay per view,
and you know what, I'll give

807
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,119
them some credit. That's I mean, it's not like maybe star studded or

808
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:07,440
anything like that. But those are
solid fights. I can't really I can't

809
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:10,199
moan about a single one of those. They're all interesting for different reasons.

810
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,559
So you know, and I have
said to you before, even though I

811
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,599
don't love that Theory Nagana are doing
this, I'd rather see Theory doing the

812
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:21,159
USIC Fighter some other big heavyweight contender
that I was just disappointed in it.

813
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,239
But you know what, the undercard
kind of suthe my soul a little bit.

814
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,079
I'm okay with that. I like
the undercard a good couple more news

815
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:32,679
items than it's nostalgia time. The
Devin Handy Regis pro Grade fight is done.

816
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:39,159
I still remember sitting with Dan Rayphael
here's TMI in his underwear doing the

817
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:45,199
recap podcast after Spence Crawford, and
one of the news items was Devin Handy

818
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,199
Regis pro Grade late October in Las
Vegas, and you said not done.

819
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:52,519
It's not done, and I'm not
talking about it being done until it is

820
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,280
done. And so now it is
done in low and behold, it's not

821
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,599
late October it's actually December, and
it's not even in Las Vegas. Fill

822
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:00,920
in the blank. Yeah, I
mean there are some people that like to

823
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,280
jump the gun on stuff, or
even if they report that it was going

824
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,840
to be October Las Vegas, you
can't report it as fact. That was

825
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,119
just they weren't looking to do it
on October twenty eighth in Las Vegas.

826
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:13,639
But it was never a done deal. There was a lot of different reasons

827
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:16,559
for that, not the least of
which was the Fury and Naganu fight was

828
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:20,519
the same day on pay per view, and even though they were going to

829
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,000
take place at the same time,
you don't want to do two pay per

830
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:25,800
views at the same moment on the
same day, particularly when the other guys

831
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,360
have the bigger event. So they
had to figure out what the better date

832
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:32,159
was. They saw had a lot
of internal things with the Zone about whether

833
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:35,119
it was gonna be a pay per
view or not. They had to get

834
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:37,440
the location squared away, and so
they finally have done that. It'll be

835
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,480
December of the ninth at the Chase
Center in San Francisco, which is the

836
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:44,360
building where the Golden State Warriors played. You say, why is it going

837
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,679
to be in San Francisco, and
I've been covering boxing for you know,

838
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,239
twenty plus years. There has never
been a big fight in San Francisco.

839
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,239
The last time there was a fight
of any consequence was before my time on

840
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,800
the beat, which was in the
late nineties, when there was a card

841
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,760
that featured Floyd Mayweather and also a
young many pack. Yo. I guess

842
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,039
I was already on the beat at
that point, but it was like two

843
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:06,239
thousand and one, maybe something like
that, two thousand and two, and

844
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,840
they did an HBO doubleheader that I
did not attend. But there has other

845
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,599
since that show. Off top of
my head, there hasn't been a single

846
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:17,119
like this way because I know here's
the reason. I'm gonna give you the

847
00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:21,599
reason. The reason is because Devin
Haney is bored in San Francisco, right

848
00:51:21,639 --> 00:51:23,079
even though he grew up in Las
Vegas, he wanted to fight it up

849
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,199
his home hometown, and so they're
doing that. Like say so, the

850
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,000
big thing is they haven't really had
a big time arena in San Francisco until

851
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,079
they built one. Because a lot
of people don't realize this. The Warriors

852
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:37,159
were playing in Oakland, across the
Bay in what was a rundown arena that

853
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:40,400
they kind of refurbished, and so
this is an attraction. This is a

854
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:45,199
state of the art facility. So
it's kind of interesting what kind of draw

855
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,280
will it be for early December,
etc. But you were saying to me,

856
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,360
the Warriors aren't playing there for a
few days because they're playing in the

857
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:58,480
Las Vegas New NBA play in in
season tournament that's got some rewards. So

858
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,559
they've got a chance to build this
up a little bit and sell some tickets.

859
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:06,199
And Haney with a little hometown situation
there too to make. I'm not

860
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,440
so sure what he's going to do
there. And because yes he's born and

861
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:15,360
bred in San Francisco, fair enough, but he's moved to Las Vegas as

862
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,320
a kid. He's never boxed there. He boxed there as an amateur,

863
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,840
but not ever as a professional,
as professional career is based been based largely

864
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,079
in Las Vegas. You know,
his early fights when he first turned pro

865
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:27,239
as a teenager, fought a lot
of fights in Mexico. But they wanted

866
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,320
to go there and see if they
can maybe build a market and do something.

867
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,360
I credit them for that. The
only negative thing about that, and

868
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,679
this is nothing about the matchup.
We've all talked about before how interesting the

869
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,880
matchup between Prograce and and He is. It's a good fight. It's the

870
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,280
fact that it's a paper that's going
to give a lot of people pause because

871
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,599
they feel like it's not worthy of
that. But secondly, a place where

872
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:47,840
the paper he was going to struggle
in a very serious manner is because that's

873
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,000
the same day that ESPN and Top
Rank will do a presumably significant fight card

874
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:58,599
from Madison Square Garden post Heisman Trophy. So that's going to eat up a

875
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,280
lot of the boxing spacebox, media, boxing oxygen, et cetera in the

876
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,639
lead up to that fight, and
the and ESPN can beat the horn and

877
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:08,599
blow it out the way that the
Zone can't because they don't have that kind

878
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:13,760
of partnership with another outlet in the
means that's not on their own service,

879
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,159
which goes to a limited number of
people. So but anyway, that's that's

880
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:19,599
the The other going to be in
San Francisco in December, and uh,

881
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,679
you know, I'll be your watching. The undisputed lightweight champ moves up to

882
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:28,239
fight Regius Pro Gray, and arguably
it is it's Regis Progray's biggest opponent,

883
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,280
even though the guy's moving up in
Wayne. He's an undisputed champion, so

884
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:32,639
we got plenty of time to build
that one up. One. I don't

885
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:36,079
know if I agree that he did
fight Josh Taylor to unify at one hundred

886
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,400
and forty. Was Josh Taylor unisputed? No, it doesn't matter if.

887
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,599
By the way, Devin doesn't matter. It does matter if you're undisputed.

888
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:46,840
You crow about four belt undisputed all
the time. My name is it's his

889
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,000
biggest first of all, Devin Hand. He's a much bigger star than Josh

890
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:54,000
Taylor ever was, especially in Scotland. That we're not in Scotland. We're

891
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,280
not in Scotland. But I mean
you're also saying that again, I love

892
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,280
Devin any, but he ain't the
undisputed champion because he's no longer the WC

893
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,960
champ. But he was the undisputed
chap when he beat woman Checo, So

894
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,199
all right, but Josh Taylor was
not the undisputed champion when reg just Progray

895
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:13,199
fought him. Correct, it was
not. So this is an undisputed champ

896
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,840
that he's fighting, even though that
was a unification. But anyway, okay,

897
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,440
we don't have to argue about it
before we get to the Marvin Haglin

898
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:22,239
nostalgia. Well, there's one more
item. Miguel Burchelt is back, former

899
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,840
world champ as well, and he's
headlining for Golden Boy and it's coming soon

900
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,639
quickly. So. Burchell was the
longtime junior walter juwior lightweight title holder of

901
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:36,400
the WBC and he then lost his
title by a spectacular knockout to Oscar Valdez.

902
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:39,079
Got just annihilated one of my good
upset picks. By the way,

903
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,840
we have to go back to my
picks. He then came back and got

904
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,960
his clock clean by Jeremiah Naca Taylor
when he moved up to lightweight, and

905
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:47,840
those were two terrible knockout losses in
a row, and you're kind of figuring,

906
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,159
Okay, this guy's done. Well, he's been out of the ring

907
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,880
now it'll have been nineteen months.
He is coming back to fight in Mexico

908
00:54:55,119 --> 00:55:00,400
and he's gonna The opponent is Argentine
Argentinian fighter in d Ruiz who's fought like

909
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,360
Michael Conlin and a couple of other
decent names. Been a pedestrian record twenty

910
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,639
four to seven and one. This
is a ten round lightweight fighter will take

911
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:12,320
place in Marita, Mexico. It's
part of Golden Boys Golden Boy Fight Night

912
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:15,679
cards that they do on the Zone. They work with Zamford Promotions on this

913
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,079
event, so they bring that to
uh. They're not maybe the top level

914
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,440
Golden Boy events like they have done, but still those Mexo cards are usually

915
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,440
pretty solid. They have a title
eliminator in the co feature between a former

916
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,159
junior flyweight title older Felix Alvarado,
and an eliminator at flyweight with a Mexico

917
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:35,679
Mexican fighter angel Iilla. But the
question for me is, you know,

918
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,079
after the long layoff and two hilastious
knockouts now in a heavier weight, what

919
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:43,000
does mcguil bert child have left.
We'll find out, We are going to

920
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:45,639
find out coming in a couple of
weeks. In that one nostalgia time and

921
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:52,199
here we go with Marvin Hagler becoming
world middleweight champion, undisputed world middleweight champion,

922
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:58,480
and that was forty three years ago
this past Wednesday, that that happened

923
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,000
with his knockout of a mentor out. I don't know about you. I

924
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:07,840
remember watching live Saturday Afternoon ABC's Wide
World of Sports. I cannot I did

925
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,519
not go look, I cannot recollect. Was Howard Cosell on the call?

926
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:14,880
Howard may have been. We got
a double check that as the beer bottles

927
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,440
came raining down on the stoppage,
I think it was co Sell that was

928
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:22,320
on the call as the as the
bedlam happened at Wembley Arena. But pick

929
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:28,840
it up on Marvin Hagler just dismantling
Alan Minter and becoming well terrorizing middleweight world

930
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,840
champion. Go back to that fight, as we mentioned, took place in

931
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:36,039
September September twenty seventh, nineteen eighties, so forty three years ago on Wednesday

932
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:37,960
of this week. Prior to that, you know, Hagler had a rough

933
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,480
road coming up. He fought all
the top guys out of even though he's

934
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,000
from Massachusetts. He fought him,
you know, all the top Gate and

935
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:46,679
all the top names out of Philadelphia, a ton of top middleweights. You

936
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,960
know, had a you know,
a couple of losses in there, beat

937
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,119
a lot of good guys, but
it took him a while to get a

938
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:54,599
title shot. When he finally got
the title shot against then on disputed champion

939
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,840
Vito at the Fermoh, you know, he got Saddle with a ridiculous draw.

940
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:01,760
Everybody knows that Hackler won. He
was pissed about it. Everybody was

941
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:07,320
pissed about it, except probably know
Vito's top about frequently talk about robberies.

942
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,559
Haggler got robbed that night. That
was seventy nine in Vegas, and that

943
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:14,119
was on the undercard of Sugar Ray
Leonard and Wilfred Benitez and a double water

944
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,599
But Haggler absolutely robbed in that fight. And by the way, stop right

945
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,320
there, think about that doubleheader Sugar
Ray Leonard against Wolford Benitez for the welterweight

946
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,880
title, and on the undercard he
got hit the formo against Hagler on disput

947
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:31,039
of middleway title and that was on
ABC TV Network TV and now Regis program

948
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:35,960
and Devin Hanier on pay per view. But I digress anyway, So he

949
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,480
got the draw against Vito that night
and he had to go, and he

950
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:43,280
didn't get an immediate rematch. He
went on a three fight winning streak.

951
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:45,159
He won a couple of those by
knocked out. He finally got a chance

952
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:49,320
in the interim period of time when
he was making those comeback fights. Minter

953
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,320
had beaten at the Fermo to become
the undisputed champion, and he went to

954
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:57,280
London on the road at the Wembley
Arena, the same location where so many

955
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,920
of the fights that we've talked about
that take place in the UK take place

956
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:04,400
in the smaller arena crossed from the
big soccer stadium anyway, So on that

957
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:07,360
date Marvin Hagler went in there and
cut up and beat up and smashed up

958
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:09,599
Alan Minter to become the champ stop
them in the third round, and the

959
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:15,079
British crowd when nuts started throwing bottles
and they had like a riot basically in

960
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,800
the arena and went always payned Haggler
and kind of warred like a chip on

961
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,440
a shoulder for many, many years, maybe for the rest of his life.

962
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,679
Frankly, is that he never got
to be announced as the middleweight champion

963
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,440
of the world in the ring because
they had to clear the ring. They

964
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,440
were like covering it up. And
if you ever watched one of the HBO

965
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:34,239
documentaries on Legendary Nights, I forget
which Hagler fight they were talking about.

966
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:36,079
It might have been when he was
doing a Leonard fighter. Maybe he was

967
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,320
the Tommy Hearns fight where he talked
about and they had interviews also with with

968
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:43,239
you know, some of his handlers
that they were made to feel dirty,

969
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,480
like they had done something wrong,
and they had a kind of sneak out

970
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:47,960
of the ring like being you know, shielded by the police and and everything,

971
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:51,920
when all they did was win the
fight and they couldn't get announced as

972
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,960
the world champion in the ring.
And he always was like wore that as

973
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:59,679
like a scarlet letter. He was
always pisted off about that. But that

974
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,119
was forty three years ago. After
that, this was a time period,

975
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:06,920
if I interject, this was a
time period where the hooligan behavior, the

976
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:12,639
lawless behavior in soccer matches and other
events where people were getting killed, stampeded.

977
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,159
It was an awful time and here
it bled into boxing because that was

978
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:19,840
a dangerous situation. I mean,
he was brutalizing mentor the referee stops the

979
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,480
fight, and if I'm not mistaken, the referee got hit with a beer

980
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:24,719
bottle trying to get out of the
ring and they're they're raining it down and

981
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,679
the English bubbies, the bobbies are
in the ring shielding Marvin Hagler. But

982
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:30,760
by I go to get him out
of the arena. Again, no fault

983
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,119
of his own. As you pointed
out, I mean, I wouldn't excuse

984
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:37,920
a ride for any of the reasons. But it wasn't like they went crazy

985
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,639
because this was some sort of perceived
quick stoppage or bad decision. He was

986
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,760
beating the living ship out of all
he was and the referee had no choice

987
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,599
but to stop the fight. What
do they want the guy to die in

988
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:51,360
the ring? I mean, that
was ridiculous. So he won the title

989
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:54,159
and then went on one of the
great middleweight title reigns of all time,

990
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,719
defended the title time and again,
you know, about a dozen title defenses,

991
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,880
and obviously had some human longus fights
against obviously the great, you know,

992
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,079
most memorable fight of his career against
Tommy Hearns. He also had a

993
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,400
win over Roberto Duran and beat a
lot of other contenders, and then before

994
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:15,199
he eventually lost the title and retired
with the Hugh Mongus Nega fight against Sugar

995
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,599
Ray Leonard. But the night that
they won the title, the afternoon for

996
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:21,360
us here in America, he won
the title. It was only unfortunate you

997
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,320
couldn't get announced in the ring forty
three years ago on amazing, amazing,

998
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,920
and I still remember watching that I
know you're a you're an old school fight

999
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,880
fan like I am, and those
Wide World of Sports Saturdays, you'd see

1000
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:37,519
fights. You'd see him on CBS
in the afternoons and sometimes the Minter and

1001
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:39,599
Hagler is easily if you can find
that on I think probably has it on

1002
01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:45,760
it's archive and uh, I'm not
sure, but maybe on ESPN Plus and

1003
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,679
it's wild. I still I still
remember they eventually got Howard co Sill and

1004
01:00:49,679 --> 01:00:52,320
I believe it was Howard into the
locker room to interview Marvin and and talking

1005
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,119
about how scary the whole thing was
and now you're the champ and the whole

1006
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bit. But you're right, it's
totally anti climactic. You're not doing it

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in the ring like the usual circumstance, like what we will see on Saturday

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night for whomever's hand is raised.
And I believe it's going to be Canelo

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against Jamil Charlo in the pay per
view main event. Undisputed against Undisputed.

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All right, Dan rayphel We have
had a very busy preview show. I

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know we're looking forward to being back
with everybody live as we release this podcast

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on the bet Us Boxing Show.
To make some fight predictions and some handicapping.

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You're live there in Vegas. We're
looking forward to that one Eastern time

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Friday, ten am Pacific time.
Don't stay out too late. Don't make

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me have to try to wake you
up with you know, wake up call.

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It happens. I understand that.
So we're live at one eastern time

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tomorrow. See that later if you
miss it at that time, we're back

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with whatever happens Dan on the Fight
Feats Unit, recap off the weekend with

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whatever happens. They'll get that on
this podcast feed as well. Other than

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that, anything else in closing,
Are we good? We're good man,

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I'm just looking forward to fight.
We are. It is Charlo challenging Canelo

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Alvarez. We look forward to that. You heard from both fighters. Also

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our friends at PPB dot com spots
us as well. You always get the

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preview headed into the weekend, the
recap off the weekend on the Big Fight

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Weekend podcast feed for Dan Rayphael,
I'm TJ Reeves. Enjoy the pay per

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view coming Saturday night in Las Vegas. Charlo and Kennello By