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We'll do live the apprehension of the
bos Brothers. Ed Manaprow. Hey,

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here we are. It's November.
It's not yet Thanksgiving, but we give

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thanks for being here with you.
We're glop culture. I'm John Podhorns in

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New York with Rob Long in New
York, Hi, Rob, Hi John,

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And in Washington Jonah Goldberg, Hi, Jonah Hey John, so la

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Hi. Last time we did this, I don't think there was a war

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on. There is now a war
on. And of course everybody always asks

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this question, can you be funny
when there's a war on? And the

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obvious answer is, well, if
you weren't funny before, why would you

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be funny now? So we will
just be ourselves and it's gonna be up

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to you to decide whether or not
we are funny, because this is the

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business that we have chosen. Right, so you're doing that? That uh

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uh meyer Lansky? What's his name? In the what? What? What?

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What? What? What was that
supposed to be? It's like he

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had a he had a he had
a a schmick and his gimme a dung.

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And I said to myself, this
is the business we've chosen. I

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didn't ask who gave the order because
it had nothing to do with business.

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Okay, he had make it his
gimmer dung. Yeah, so he had.

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He had, he had a Cuban
sandwich and it did not agree with

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him. Didn't know nicol. But
you have to admit that it was quite

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an acting coup because it's fifty years
later and you remember Lee Strasburg going,

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you know, in that scene,
no one had ever gone in the middle

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of dialogue in a scene before.
That's like, well, there's a lot

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of things no one's ever done the
middle of dialogue before. That doesn't make

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it. That just makes it weird. I don't you know. It was

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weird, but it was incredibly memorable. And of course, the interesting thing

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about Lee Strasburg giving this indelible performances
that he was the most famous acting teacher

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of his time, the man who
taught Marilyn Monroe, the man who taught

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Brando, the man who brought Stanislavsky
to America. But no one had ever

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seen him act because he was a
teacher, not an actor, and so

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there was a lot of eh,
what does he know? And he got

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I guess everyone everyone watched this.
Yeah, right, you say this about

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Lee Strasbourg. But it was like
one of the biggest f yous ever that

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he comes out at the age of
sixty five or something out of nowhere and

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gives one of the most famous performances
in history. And then, as you

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and I discussed, as you and
I discussed only a few years we're talking

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about Cinnacle because you and I discussed
just a few years later how he gave

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this beautiful performance in the incredibly underrated
movie Going in Style, in which he,

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Art Carney and George Burns play three
retirees and queens bored to death,

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sick of their lives, who decide
to knock over a bank and then going

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bared to death. Welcome glop listeners. This is the way. This is

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the way. So Okay, you're
in a very weird mood here, Ron,

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I don't understand this. You're you're
no ending me, You're no budding

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me. All podcasts are yes and
exercises and improvisation. I don't even agree.

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That's the worst part of improv is
the yes and yeah okay, because

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I'm about to mute myself. So
like, we had a dispatch meet up

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in New York yesterday, and it
might as well have had a sub chapter

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of as a Glop meet up because
there were so many people asking me about

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laps up, lots of people concerned
how John is doing. I said,

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John's fine and uh one of the
uh and and several people said that they

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were completely fine with the fact that
we're basically turning into three out Thecaccas at

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Barney green Grass and I was just
at green Grass. I rest my case.

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It's true. It's funny because it's
true, funny because it's true.

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I gotta I have a have an
email friend who loves to play the game

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of did you spot this actor who's
in the background of this movie? Kind

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of thing with it? And i'
this guy for a while and he's a

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huge fan of glop. He just
had bypass surgery and uh, and he

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came out of his recovery to email
me to say, can you please tell

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John Pedora's that frank Oz is not
the guy in the Blues Brothers who says

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authorization to use extreme violence is granted
or whatever. Frank Oz is the prison

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guard who checks out Jake in the
beginning of the movie, and he was

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so moved by this that he actually
violated doctor's orders. So he could have

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me convey this to you because apparently
you said this on the commentary podcast.

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Okay, so we are we are
we're crossing the streams and you are not

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across the streams. So Jonah,
when he said this to you, did

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he say, please tell John PRIs. I'm now going to look up who

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it was, because I think it
was probably some other famous director because there

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are all these directors in the Blues
Brothers that John Land has put in the

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Blues Brothers, because there's nothing more
hilarious than a cameo by a director that

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really gets you're right there in the
funny bone. To know that he was.

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So you guys talk while I look
up who it was because it's how

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was the dispatch meetup? But I
didn't get it. I didn't get that

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in my as a dispatch member,
I didn't. I didn't receive the invitation

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a few times in various products maybe
we had we wet, you're not you're

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not listening to the products we get
some the uh the it was great,

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great bunch of people gratifying all that
stuff. Not the best plan all on

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all because it was a debate watching
party. Oh yeah, where like Steve

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and I didn't do our riffs until
after the debate, So you're hanging around

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till ten o'clock at night, and
people got there, you know, depending

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on you know, three two to
three to four hours earlier, and and

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we got went past seating capacities.
There are people standing all that time.

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But we didn't get a single complaint
from anybody. It was just it was

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just never going to do a debate
watching thing unless we're on the West coast,

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because then the timing kind of works. That makes sense. That makes

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sense. Also until there's just a
different bunch of candidates. How about that

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that would work too. I have
really good news for you guys, because

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the name of the actor who played
the police dispatcher is one of the great

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names of all time. Though he
is not a film director, his name

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is Ralph Foodie f O O d
Y, and he is the one who

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says use of unnecessarily violence in the
act has been approved. Ralph Foodie,

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we we I. I hope you're
still alive. If you are still alive,

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we congratulate you on your brilliant line
reading and on your excellent, excellent

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name. The Ralph Footie Ralph foot
also the guy I just looked him up.

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You know in Home Alone, where
the Macaulay Halkin kid plays the clip

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from the Mobster movie, or the
guy shooting people in the one in the

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Plaza Hotel. That's Ralph Footie.
Ralph Footie is an indelible American performance,

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a man, a legend, and
we are making him a legend as we

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speak. Not only I mean I'm
learning so much here. Not only was

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he in Angels with Thirty Faces,
he was something called which I've of course

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heard of, that's the James Cagney
movie. But he was also I'm hoping

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this was actually a sequel because they
were just trying to monetize. He's also

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in something called Angels with Filthy Souls. Sounds like a child. We're talking

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about a timespan. This is a
man with a historic career. Angels with

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Dirty Faces, if I'm not mistaken, was made in the late thirties,

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Brothers Blues Brothers in nineteen eighty and
Home Alone too, I think like ninety

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one. This is his career.
Space the twentieth century. He saw nothing

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for the President of television and the
telephone and space is how old a gentleman

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is he? Or is he has
he already gone to his reward to the

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great. You don't feel like you'd
know he would have thatched her in the

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sky. Yeah, where is his
age? Let's see, Well you're looking

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that up. I found out.
I want to apologize the listeners who are

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expecting a more exacting, factual repretage
on this podcast. Yeah, all two

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of you. Angels with fifty Filthy
Souls is the made up movie that Oh,

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there we go, Angels with Filthy
Souls. This cast list of the

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Blues Brothers. There are like five
thousand people in the Blues Brothers. This

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is like a nightmare. It's like
a needle in a haystack trying to find

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Ralph Foodie's name. So I'm gonna
try it another way. But I looked

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at it. Ah didn't make it
to Y two K. Yeah, that's

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that's really that's really sad. But
he did span the twentieth century like a

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colossus, and I think we need
to pay him tribute. I think there

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are other actors with excellent, excellent
names that we could pay tribute to as

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well. One of my favorites was
a a Yiddish theater actor who then went

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on to be in the movies.
And in Star Trek episodes perhaps more important.

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And his name was David Opatoshu,
not open Toshu, but O,

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and he was like, I can't
remember he was an elder or something on

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some episode of Star Trek, but
he was. He was in Exodus,

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and he was in various other things. And though his name sounded Japanese,

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he was in fact an actor of
the Yiddish theater David Opa Toshu, who

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I think we deserves credit for having
an excellent name. If he if he

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was in a store and you were
in a store and you said, the

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guy is there, where do I
buy an open to shoe, he would

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go, yeah, over here,
no one of those I think exactly.

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He would say, well, you
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but as iPort, you describe the
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Do have a SAG minimum and a
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so comfortable they are. Basically they
have a right. I would just like

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to say that it's my belief that
towards the end of his storied life,

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a life that spanned the twentieth century
that had the highs of angels with dirty

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faces to the lows of angels with
dirty souls, that by the end of

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his life, Ralph Foodie had achieved
SAG maximum. I'm sure that's that's just

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I think something that we need in
our memorialization of him. And unfortunately,

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to be fair, there were probably
some sag residuals. You know. See,

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that's how you yes, and right, I know how you do it.

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Yes, Oh, I know,
I know. I'm familiar with with

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the technique. I just choose.
Yeah, you're right, that's how you

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choose to neg. You just choose
to neg. Like vivek Ramaswami, who

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chooses to nag by saying, don't
let you Oh you let your kid watched

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TikTok. So I want to ask
Joe, what is that really pissed me

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off? It was her twenty five
frickin year old married daughter who had been

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on TikTok. It was the lamest
friggin' attack. But here here's my point

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in the annals of rhetoric. Okay, we have friends Romans country and lend

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me your ears. We have uh, those who are abed in England tonight

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will think themselves a curse that they
were not here. We have. Let

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you know that was Let you know
the government of the people for the people,

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by well shall not perish from the
earth. And ask not what your

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country should do for you, but
what you should do for your country,

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and you're just scum. I believe
Nikki Haley may have achieved Periclean funeral oration

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levels of immortality by saying you were
just scum. I believe that until the

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day he dies, once a day
somebody is going to go up to vivek

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Ramaswami and say, and boy,
will he deserve it, and his campaign

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slogan in twenty sixty will be vivek
Ramaswami not just scum. It was a

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dazzling moment in as as we go
into the decline and fall of the American

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empire, let it be said that
Donald Trump's rhetorical destruction of the heights of

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American politics at least had this one
glorious moment to it. When Nicki Haley

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felt free to call the vek Ramaswami
scum on national television, we will take

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the news for both of them,
he said, nobody was watching last night.

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Do we have ratings? I got
a they haven't been corrected, But

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the FLASHYG guy was that they were
pretty low. It's interesting because they were

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the first one that was actually on
a broadcast network like it was on It

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was on NBC. Broadcast Network and
she won. So the so the first

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poles say, which I think is
right. But it's Neilism time here on

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the four thirty movie because who cares
doesn't matter. Trump's gonna win. I

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don't know what they're doing there because
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is going to be vice president.
I guess they're just spending the money

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they raised. Or maybe Trump will
get hit by a truck and then they'll

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be left over and they can like
run and see who wins or something like

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that. But I mean, come
on, does anybody now think? Yes,

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I know people, I could make
an argument. People are making the

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argument that someone else can be the
Republican nominee. Yeah, does anybody really

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believe it? I believe it?
Yes, that would I bet, Like

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would I like to put my money
where? Like? Do I think it's

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gonna happen? No? I mean
I think he's going to be the nominee.

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But I'm not as positive as you
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a there is a chance. Non
negative, I'll call it negative. But

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yes, I take your point.
I mean I was saying too. Uh,

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I'm not as convicted as you are, as convinced as you are.

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Yeah, you're you're shades of John
Candy explaining if they had been in Germany

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he would have won the poker game
because they're in Italy. Yeah, I

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take your point. Look, take
your point. You know what is going

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to be big. But like you
know, so like I've had I've made

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this point for a very long time
about the Democratic and Republican parties, and

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we don't need to dwell on the
punditry because there's so much more enjoyable thing

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to talk about. But like,
both parties exist because they hate the other

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one. So if if one party
dies, the other party loses its reason

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to live. And it feels to
me, like you talk to Democrats away

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from cameras, the certainty that Biden's
going to be the nominee is not as

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there as you might think, right, And if Biden's not the nominee,

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I'm not sure that Trump is not
any If Trump's not the nominee, I'm

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not sure Biden's no nominee. I
think there's this kind of like weird stalemate

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because sixty to seventy percent of the
people of the American people don't want either

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of them to run and I keep
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In two thousand and four, I
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where the punitry was, including from
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They were all convinced Dean had it
sewed up. And then a bunch

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of people in Iowa on caucus night
were like, really, we really think

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we can win with this guy.
I mean, I know that John Kerry

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is a human toothache, but you
know he's got the military thing, and

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they voted for John Carrey. Dean
didn't win anything right until Vermont. I

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think he won, and so the
psychology I still think can change, but

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we should be you know, I
think, to be honest, he's you

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have to bet these that he has
incredibly strong odds to be the nominee and

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he could win. It's I don't
think he could win. Not that I'm

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saying that he will win, but
I'm saying that the assigning this as a

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hey, you know, he could
even win is the wrong tone, like

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he has even odds to win.
You know, if Christopher Pike were in

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the machine and eighty and rolling around
drooling, that's Biden. So I don't

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know. I don't know. I'm
in despair, beyond belief. It's obviously

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been a tough month. The war
in Israel is taking it out of me

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emotionally. But I I look,
and then I see every moment at which

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it's possible that this could be turned
around, because the Democrats could say,

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oh my god, what are we
doing. We can't run with this guy,

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something has to be done about it. Then there's an election like there

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was this Tuesday night where they do
okay, and therefore they say themselves,

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well, you know, we're kind
of doing okay, and he's at the

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top of the ticket, and I
don't know what message makes if he goes

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off the ticket, So what are
we going to do them? Everyone says

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they don't want him, but they
don't want Trump either, and Trump's you

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know, going to be convicted,
and and so then that Diosex Machina of

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the Democrats saying, oh my god, we're headed for disaster. Let's get

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this. You know, two hundred
and seventy five year old crook out of

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our way isn't going to happen either. So, I mean, John,

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this is why I'm cutting myself.
I mean, I know, I didn't

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know that you were cutting yourself and
I'm sorry. I'm really sorry to hear

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it. I don't I think you
need new coping skill. Speaking of coping

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skills, I can't pay attention to
anything on tele because the war is consuming

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the war and everything that's going on
is consuming my attention too much. Is

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anybody watching anything that you can can
can recommend because people need distraction. And

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the only thing I'm watching because I'm
watching with my son is Loki, the

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second season of Loki, and it
sucks so badly. It stinks at a

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level that a three week old fish, you know, left outside the Wayne

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Scott fish store would stink. So
I'm just asking you, is there something

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else that people might want to alas. I'm reluctant to agree with you about

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Loki because I want it to be
good, but so far it's really it's

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it's not good. First season was
good, so I guess you get good.

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Look six episodes. You can't complain
you got six good episodes. Don't

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look a gift horse in the mouth. But I will say my wife and

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I we are enjoying Bosh Legacy,
which is the spin off from Bosh.

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It's really not bad and on the
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I started watching jen v Oh,
which is the spin off from the Boys

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on Amazon Prime. Yes, and
uh again not family viewing, but I'm

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you know, it's it's it's enjoyable
and terrible in all the ways the Boys

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is. But I really liked watching
The Boys. I love the Boys.

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So I this is just the problem
of my my inability to to focus.

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So Rob, this is your business. This is what you do for a

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living. This is the thing that
you can break down like a molecular biologist

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dealing with, you know, micro
organism. So isn't there something that you

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can tell the people that they nobly
not? How about? Because that's the

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only thing I was able to watch
for ten minutes. I was just changing

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the channel and there was the scene
on showtime of Hyman Roth and Michael in

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the hotel room talking about Moe Green
and I my hand froze and as I

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was switching between CNN and MSNBC or
whatever, and there it was like,

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this is what life, This is
what makes life worth living. You hit

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The Godfather, The Godfather Part two, and you're like, what else is

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there? Like I don't really need
to see anything else? Ever, this

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is as good as it gets.
But if you can't just watch those rob

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nothing, you got nothing. Well, I mean, I'm watching I have

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one more episode to go of the
French thing Loupan, which I like.

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I don't like this one as much. But I also feel like the season

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of Lupan right because I watched the
first and it was pretty good. Second

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season well, it's like the first
season was sort of two parts and then

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this is like the third part.
Okay, you know, I actually feel

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like we watched too much. I
think that this is when, when this

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stuff is going on in the world, it's kind of better not to have

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a TV on. I think you're
not going to learn anything. There's no

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news on the television. There's nothing
you need to know on TV. You

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don't need to stay abreast of any
news. You can just catch up with

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it really every three or four days
of the newspaper. If you want sitting

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quietly and reading the reading a book
like a mystery novel is I think the

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only real balm if you're looking for
relief from this. The part of the

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the agony of all of this terrible
news is just that we have to watch

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it all the time, and like
I and where I said, and where

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I'm standing. Sometimes I have to
hear it because I'm not that far away

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from Washington Square Park and not that
far away from the corner of the News

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School on Fifth Avenue fourteenth Street.
So I often hear the young people who

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is for whom someone is spending tens
and tens and tens of thousands of dollars

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for them to get educate, to
get the college college degrees from NYU,

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and the new school spouting inanities or
a historical non facts. So the best

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thing to do is to could put
on a pair of noise canceling headphones.

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I recommend Bose. They're not,
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really great book. We all have books

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in our house right now that we've
been meaning to read and we just haven't

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read. So I am I'm gonna
say that part of the ajitah and the

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anxiety and the misery is coming through
the screens that we are now addicted to,

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that we feel entitled to and we
feel like, well, I should

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be able to look at a screen
and be able to see something that's relaxing

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and know all that has been that
screen has been toxified and just pick up

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me, you have a certain tency to

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this and get a little earnest just
for a second. But I don't have

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that luxury because things are in fact
happening fast and furious all over the country

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and all over the world that are
very Jewish specific like, and they're happening

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every two hours. So Concordia University
in Montreal, you never heard of it,

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thank god, and you should never
hear from it again. So some

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kid calls another kid, a kike
at Concordia University. And that's a three

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miles down the road. Three miles
down the road. The previous evening,

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someone throw molotov cocktail at a synagogue
in Montreal. This may not be this

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may not be accurate what I'm about
to say, but I did see it

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because I saw it on Twitter,
so so it could be alive. But

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the most remarkable thing about the guy
who killed the guy in California with a

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megaphone and the woman that you said
that the kid at the Concordia whatever,

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that ridiculous universities. They were not
students, they were college professor. She's

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a professor. Yes, yeah,
So it's not about the kid. I'm

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just saying that the incidents themselves are
coming at a blistering pace, you know.

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But they'll wait, they'll wait a
couple of wait, seventy two hours.

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My I'm gonna side with pod And
you know, I don't normally said

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with pot on things in here,
mostly because that's my role of the heel.

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But so I he used to use
this analogy a lot when I was

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trying to explain to people why I
made I made such a stink about Trump

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and what was happening to conservatism And
I think it applies even better to Pod

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than this. Right. So there's
an episode of Spencer for Hire where Spencer

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meets this woman who's been a fugitive
from justice because she was sort of like

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Patty Hurst type who got caught up
with some bank robbers, and she was

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a fugitive because the security guard tried
to stop the bank robbery and got shot

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and killed, and so she became
a fugitive for homicide. Right our accom

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accomplished a murder. And she's like
saying to Spencer, why did that security

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guard have to get in the way. We didn't want to hurt anybody.

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And Spencer gives this little speech where
he says, maybe it's because he took

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people's money for lots of days where
he had nothing to do, and where

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he was there to be a reassurance
and a security guard, an insurance policy

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against bad things happening, and he
felt honor bound to do what was required

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of him when there was actually a
need for him at the bank. Commentary

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exists for this moment. We've been
sitting on a stool looking for like examples

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of anti Semitism which have been around
but like not worthy of, like freaking

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out about for the last ten years, and then this thing happens. This

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is the bank robbery that the security
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Why have commentary if not for this
moment. We did publish several superb articles

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by you in the in the Get
and Rob every month. No, but

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you know what I mean. I'm
glad you mentioned Spencer for hire because I

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don't want to talk about the show, but I would like to say that

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Rob is right that there are times
when you are in desperate straits when you

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wanted just to sit down and sit
down with like a mystery novel or something,

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and really those first ten or fifteen
Robert Parker Spencer books, you are

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just not going to have a better
time reading a And they're pretty good intact,

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they are really, really, really
good, and they're short, so

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they come at you real fast,
and like this anecdote, it indicates they

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are morality tales and Spencer the whole
point about Spencer is that he is the

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last moral man in a very corrupt
Boston and he is always struggling to do

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the right thing. So they're very
moving and move worth the reading. But

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I do want to say, ask
you this about all these analogies. So

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this stuff is just coming and coming
and coming coming, And of course everybody

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in the Jewish community and probably other
people as well, are like, what

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the this country was attacked? You
know, five thousand people were killed or

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injured, and that ignites anti Semitism
worldwide, Like shouldn't this ignite like sympathy?

405
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.640
What on earth is going on?
And I am telling you right now

406
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.720
we are going to be finding out
over the next six months. And you

407
00:32:54.759 --> 00:33:00.279
guys know that I am the opposite
of a paranoid, delusional person who thinks

408
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.960
that there are connections between everything,
but not the opposite. But yeah,

409
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.960
I'm pretty close to being I do
not believe. I do not say secret

410
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:15.599
networks, thank you, But stuff
is going on here that was activated by

411
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:22.519
October seventh, that has simply been
happening too fast and in too many locations

412
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:30.759
and with too much speed and accuracy
and effectiveness for this all to have been

413
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:37.720
spontaneous. I don't mean that,
you know, somebody in gutter is pressing

414
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.119
a button and then a robot.
You know, it's like call someone and

415
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.759
says the woods are lovely, dark
and deep and then they are robot tied

416
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:51.200
in like upon and then they go
Charles Browntony the world. Yeah, I'm

417
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:55.039
just saying that this. For twenty
years, there's been this world of leftist

418
00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:00.559
activists. They have been building up
their networks and their abilities to mobile each

419
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.319
other with a phone call or a
tweet or or you know, a series

420
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:08.360
of tiktoks or something like that,
and it is happening everywhere, and it

421
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:15.840
is a dazzling example of why everything
that has happened in the last twenty years

422
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.719
is evil. I'm like, everything
I want to think is good about the

423
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.119
phone and the Internet and Facebook and
social media. You can get information a

424
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:28.480
typical the touch of a fingertip and
you can do that. And then the

425
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.360
Lotites or the philosophical lot it's like
Christine Rosen and others who are saying,

426
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.639
no, no, no, that's
all a bluff, that's all just the

427
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.599
cherry on top of the septic tank. And I mean, what we're seeing

428
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:45.360
here is really making that argument that
we we are being we are being drawn

429
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:52.400
into a larger world and being manipulated
in this larger world by people who are

430
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:59.679
siding with eliminationist, genocidal monsters.
And their goal is to turn it around

431
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:05.920
and see that the victims are elimination
as genocidal monsters. And it's not really

432
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.880
working. The polling still shows seventy
percent of American support is real, but

433
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:14.480
it's working enough, and it's at
least working enough to be pushing a lot

434
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:17.400
of people's buttons who are crazy.
And then go out and while people are

435
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.800
walking in to see a screening of
the Horrors at the Museum of Tolerance in

436
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.840
LA they're throwing punches at them as
they walk into the Museum of Tolerance,

437
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:32.079
like this is a new thing,
something new that built off of Howard Dean

438
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.719
and various other things has now come
to fruition, and we had better be

439
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:43.039
we had better start figuring out how
we're going to handle this, because it's

440
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.119
going to happen again and again and
again, and not just to Jews.

441
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.679
So I agree with all of that
to one extent or another. I do

442
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.960
think, just to pick up on
one point, I think it is fascinating

443
00:35:54.199 --> 00:36:00.880
this thing that you see all over
the place about the what you mentioned this

444
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:06.360
screening, you know, it's this
footage from the attacks. It is this

445
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:13.039
bizarre thing where people are saying hamas
was completely justified in what it was doing,

446
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.480
that this was a breakout of an
open air prison, and all this

447
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:22.079
bs right, and that violence and
resistance to set colonialism is justified in all

448
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:29.159
forms. Blah blah blah blah blah. But how dare you say that they

449
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.320
raped anybody? How dare you say
they killed any kids? And how dare

450
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:39.000
you say that their own go pro
footage isn't propaganda? Right? I mean

451
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:44.159
they want to say that the evidence
of what they're what they're refusing to condemn,

452
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.639
is a lie. And it's this
weird sort of we want to have

453
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:52.119
it both ways. We want to
say Hamas did nothing wrong, but how

454
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.119
dare you, you know, point
out the wrong things that they did.

455
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.559
It's it's it's a weird tension,
and the fact that they get away with

456
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:04.400
it at all it is kind of
fascinating. It was remarkable how quickly it

457
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:12.719
just like by October eighth, the
biggest concerns were, you know, there's

458
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:16.559
gonna be a lot of Islamophobia out
there now. That was pretty much like

459
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.920
if you say, well, you
know, in October seventh, they kind

460
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.079
of chopped people's heads off and they
did all this stuff that pretty bad and

461
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:28.840
they killed families like the Manson family
Times twenty ran into like a, well,

462
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:32.400
that's islamophobic. It's all of the
death. All of the defenses were

463
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:39.960
so hilariously I mean hilariously in the
dark ironic sense, I mean in the

464
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.239
darkly comic sense, twisted and distorted
that even even the language we may just

465
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:50.199
walk by today was walking down and
there was the big protests in front of

466
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.639
the New School and just like even
the language is just like this kind of

467
00:37:53.679 --> 00:38:00.840
elaborate, academic, ornate kind of
language that that they the people in the

468
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:08.719
bullhorns, just that it's like it's
like it's been scripted by some you know,

469
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.199
AI machine. It doesn't sound you
know, it's like when you get

470
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.760
a junk man, you know,
you get spam and it's like, clearly

471
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:22.519
you know your count Apple has been
compromised. Now must press and you know

472
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:24.519
it all said like it's obviously some
of you doesn't speak English has written this

473
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.480
and is like trying to get you
to, you know, give them your

474
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:31.079
password. It has that feeling to
it doesn't feel like they're that they are

475
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:35.559
really saying they know what they're saying, or they are saying anything or that

476
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.079
they're any behind any of this.
It's like they could point out Gaza on

477
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:46.719
a map. It's like a It's
like a drama exercise. And I think

478
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:50.960
that we've created that in this culture
because we've decided that the most important thing

479
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.000
for you to do is to feel
and to emote and to share, because

480
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:58.199
we've spent twenty years feeling and emoting
and sharing and maybe shuting up and keeping

481
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.719
silent is something that we should be
encouraging. I like the Harvard protesters who

482
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:06.559
would be the die in who complain
that people were stepping over them and because

483
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:10.400
that made them feel unsafe. But
I mean, you know, part of

484
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:15.519
the joke here is that we've spent
ten years talking about the threat of the

485
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:22.719
microaggression. The microaggression is a very
deep problem, makes people feel bad,

486
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:31.960
makes them feel unsafe. By definition, a microaggression is not as bad as

487
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:36.280
a macro aggression. You know what
a macroaggression is. A guy in the

488
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.840
New York on New York City Street
just happened just now. His protest is

489
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.280
talking about the kidnap posters or something, and somebody comes and smashes a chair

490
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:51.360
over his head for being Jewish.
That's a macrogress. Guess what's worse the

491
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:58.920
macro aggression. Guess what's worse Having
a megaphone thrown in your face and then

492
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.320
you hit your head on the paved
and die. That's worse than someone in

493
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:09.559
a classroom saying niggardly and then someone
says, oh, I think I thought

494
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:13.320
you said the N word, and
now I feel terrible. You should lose

495
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:19.360
your job. Everything is turned around
backward. The symbolic is more important to

496
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:24.280
these people than the actual, The
little is more important to these people than

497
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:30.719
the big. And it's like an
attempted genocide was perpetrated in Israel on October

498
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:37.599
seventh, and now the claim is, oh, there might be Islamophobia in

499
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:46.639
America if things that there already was
jewophobia active in five thousand people getting killed

500
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.639
and wounded in a country of nine
million, Like, this is not how

501
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.039
you think about things, right,
we don't. You're thinking about them wrong,

502
00:40:55.119 --> 00:41:00.960
and you're doing it on purpose in
order to evade the meaning of what

503
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:05.119
happened and to suggest who is responsible. So it's like, yeah, go

504
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.480
ahead, sorry, I mean I
agree with it. I agree that I

505
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.800
think two things. One, you
know, I've been saying for a long

506
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.239
time now that there's this view on
college campuses, the campus left thinks that

507
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.480
speech they don't like is violence,
but violence they like is speech, right,

508
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.239
and so that gets it some of
this. But then the other thing

509
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.400
is, I'm I mean, I
agree with you. Macroaggressions, which is

510
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.320
another word for just violence. Yes, should be condemned in a free society,

511
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.079
right, that's why we have criminal
laws and whatever. But like,

512
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:39.079
the thing that bothers me more in
some ways is the inherent anti semitism of

513
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:45.119
having two different standards for different microaggressions. Right, So if you misgender someone,

514
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.920
that is violence. That is something
that get you sent to counseling or

515
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:55.039
suspended or whatever. But if you
yell gas the Jews, people are like,

516
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.079
well, you know you have to
understand the context. Was like you

517
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.440
can't have like, can't have a
master hard drive, right, or can't

518
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:07.840
say master bedroom because that's you know, evokes visions of slavery. But you

519
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:13.440
can say we need to liquidate the
Zionists, Like if you have a free

520
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:20.280
speech policy on campus that says all
forms of bigoted speech except for bigoted speech

521
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:24.920
against Jews, all forms of triggering
speech, accept speech against Jews, all

522
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:30.800
endorsement of violence of any kind is
reboten unless it's endorsement of violence against Jews.

523
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.079
Then you're by their own standard,
the very logic of structural racism says

524
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.599
that they are structurally anti Semitic.
And it's just it's so glaringly obvious and

525
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.320
it drives me to the point of
distraction at times watching it. Right,

526
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:51.039
And you know, these were interesting
debating arguments for the last ten years,

527
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.280
Like we had wonderful debates about them
and interesting articles, and I published great

528
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:59.480
polemics on them. And Jonah has
written a column a week practically on this

529
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:05.679
subject in some fashion now for going
on a decade, right, and it's

530
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.480
all very interesting. And now people
are getting hurt and killed in real time

531
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:15.639
in front of us, and the
people who were making these bad arguments are

532
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:22.320
still making the bad arguments instead of
going like proof, that is not what

533
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.960
I meant at all, That is
not it at all. Like I just

534
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.519
meant that we shouldn't dubblah blah blah
blah, but geez, people are getting

535
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:35.679
killed. I better stop now until
things are And they're not stopping, they're

536
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.639
accelerating, which is why I'm saying
to you that there is something else going

537
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:44.039
on. There is a meta structure, and I'm not again, not a

538
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:50.039
paranoid meta structure where there is a
puppet master controlling it, but rather a

539
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:58.159
mindset that has been linked together through
the Internet packet system to make it possible

540
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:06.559
for there to be multiple in incidence
of minor violence happening independently in forty cities

541
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:12.840
on the same afternoon. That is
saying to my people, go inside and

542
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:17.280
hide and protect your children, and
take off your key pote, and take

543
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:22.039
your mug and da VID and put
it under your shirt in case somebody is

544
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.119
going to come up and hit you
with a baseball bat. Like this is

545
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:30.039
not theoretical anymore. This is not
you know, the kind of thing that

546
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.400
only happens, you know, it's
like plane crashes, Like, oh,

547
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.639
you should fly on a plane.
It's really safer than driving in a car.

548
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.440
And you're being irrational by worrying about
it. No one is irrational in

549
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.840
America right now, worrying that they
might be a victim of anti Semitic violence

550
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.400
if they are somehow identifiable as a
Jew. And that listen to what I'm

551
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.519
saying, that this is the case. I mean, I can't believe I'm

552
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.239
saying this. I ran and I
went to a protest not protest for missing

553
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:06.159
for the kidnapped people a couple of
days ago, and on the line to

554
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:09.480
get into the rally, I run
into a very very left wing rabbi,

555
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.360
very left wing, a woman I've
known for a long time ran the JCC

556
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:20.800
here in Manhattan, is a reconstructionist
rabbi nice. Obviously, our politics are

557
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:27.199
unbelievably dissimilar. And she's i would
say, not good on Israel and has

558
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.840
bad views on a lot of things. And I looked at her and I

559
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:31.920
said, how are you doing?
Joy? And she said, I have

560
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:37.679
never felt this way in my entire
life ever. I am terrified. I

561
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.920
have never felt this way. Like
I may have said I felt this way,

562
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:45.960
but I never felt this way before. And tens of thousands, if

563
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.840
not hundreds of thousands of people are
feeling that in the United States. I'm

564
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.639
not talking about being afraid because Trump's
a fascist and he's going to take the

565
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:59.280
country over. I mean, I'm
walking with my kid and is someone going

566
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:04.199
to come up and punch my kid
in the face because he's wearing a T

567
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:07.519
shirt that has Hebrew on it.
That's what I mean. And I'm not

568
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:13.840
being hysterical. I mean I wish
I were being hysterical. No, I

569
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.239
mean, I'm sure you saw Tevy's
piece in the Journal last week where he's

570
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:24.000
like, you know, allyship is
bubkis right, friendship is real, and

571
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:30.679
like a lot of Jews on the
left in particular, bought into this allyship

572
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.519
that you know, we have to
be allies to various members of the Coalition

573
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.840
of the oppressed, and it's an
identity politics sort of popular front, and

574
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.119
that's just in tatters. I mean, every liberal Jew I know and talk

575
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:52.239
to or have heard from, they're
just like, what how am I supposed

576
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:57.000
to sit with people who are saying
you have to hear both sides about people

577
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:01.079
who murder babies and so has nothing
to with It's like, the actual murder

578
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.840
is the thing that it's supposed to
be easy for everybody to condemn, and

579
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:10.079
it's really hard for some people to
condemn. So I would just say one

580
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:14.320
thing because people ask me this all
the time, and our listenership, I

581
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.559
assume is not a particularly Jewish listenership, and people are like, what should

582
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.719
I do? How can I help? What a was going on out what

583
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.320
can I do if you want me
to help? And I have two very

584
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.239
simple things to say to you.
Don't buy into the tell a Jew that

585
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.960
you'll hide them line. There's a
whole thing I did. Would you hide

586
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.880
them? Would you you hide them
in your attic? Like thanks a lot?

587
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.400
You know that's nonsense, Like don't, don't, don't, don't be

588
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:45.199
involved in that. I would say
one practical thing and then one theoretical thing.

589
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.800
And the practical thing is, if
you are anywhere near Washington on the

590
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.639
fourteenth of November, there is going
to be a big rally for Israel for

591
00:47:53.800 --> 00:48:00.519
the kidnapped against Tamas on the mall. Go the numbers matter. It's going

592
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.440
to be very important for there to
be a huge turnout. So if you

593
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.480
are in the Virginia, Maryland,
DC area, if you could take a

594
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:14.679
road trip, whatever, go to
this rally. It is really important.

595
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.760
I hate rallies, I hate demonstrations. I don't like going to them.

596
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:21.960
I don't like being in them.
It's not something that I think is the

597
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:25.559
way to do things. But it
is important for there to be a visual

598
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.480
manifestation of the force of American public
opinion, which seems to be in this

599
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:35.239
direction. So if you can,
if you are in a place where you

600
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:40.559
can do this, do it.
Go. It would be unbelievably welcomed by

601
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:45.679
the people there. And if you
want to show friendship to Jews or be

602
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.960
an ally of Jews or whatever this
is, and it's practical for you to

603
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.599
do it, this is the best
way to do it that I can think

604
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:57.719
of, at least, you know, in the sound of my voice at

605
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:02.480
this moment. And the other is
get on these chains. It's so simple,

606
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.800
and this is what the other side
is doing. There are these organizations

607
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:14.159
that will ai chat bought letters to
Congress for you. You just go there

608
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:16.239
and you say, I want to
send a letter in support of Israel,

609
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:20.199
or I want to send a letter
in support of the kidnapped or something like

610
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.840
that, and you fail your name
in and they will send five hundred and

611
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:29.199
thirty five letters in your name with
one push of a button. And this

612
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:34.280
is something that the Palestinian side has
did the first week or the second week

613
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:39.079
and scared the Jesus out of Democratic
lawmakers across the country who couldn't believe the

614
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:44.880
floods of calls and letters and robo
calls that were coming in on behalf of

615
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.920
basically of Hamas. But let's say
the ceasefire or the Palestinian suffering or something

616
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:54.360
like that. There is on the
other side. There are the same tools,

617
00:49:54.760 --> 00:50:00.000
and it will be very helpful to
send them to your elected representatives,

618
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:06.320
not only nationally, but locally and
state wide, so that they know at

619
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:13.480
least that the numbers that support Israel
or against murdering babies or something, or

620
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.119
at least equivalent to the numbers of
people who are willing to send these robo

621
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:21.480
letters that say the opposite. So
I'm only I'm not a call to action

622
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.320
guy. I'm just I'm like,
I'm a nurse, scenic intellectualist that's behind

623
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:29.280
a desk. Don't listen to me
about how to be a good activist.

624
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:36.719
But this is what there is at
hand. So some people like that and

625
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:43.800
this is gold. That's cold.
Well, I think we proved that that

626
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:50.639
you can't be funny at this point. But you know, if you're a

627
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.199
longtime listener, you know that I
have been drinking agu one for I don't

628
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629
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Tim Ferriss talked about it. I
think Tim Ferris talking about it saw them

630
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talking about it in person, and
I used to take it in the canister,

631
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.280
and now, of course I usually
get the little pouches of travel pouches

632
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637
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I have it in a canister,
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the little packets because I can travel
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639
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say take it in the morning,
and maybe that's the right way to do

640
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it, but I just do it
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641
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gives me a little lilyft and when
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642
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for making a terrific products. Okay, I have an idea of how to

657
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:43.679
close, to bring this to a
higher level, but without betraying the tone

658
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:49.159
that we've struck before, which is, how about each of us recommend a

659
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.800
really good black comedy. I'm talking
about, like, you know, something

660
00:52:53.079 --> 00:53:00.239
that satirical and raw and funny and
that sort of like treats humankind and with

661
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:08.559
the contempt that often deserves. So
that's what came to mind, and I

662
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.880
will start. Since it's my idea, you guys can then think of one

663
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:17.960
otherwise. I would like to suggest
the comedy Used Cars, made in nineteen

664
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:22.079
eighty by Robert zamechis his first his
second movie after I Want to Hold Your

665
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:29.360
Hand. Kurt Russell breakthrough performance after
playing Elvis as one of the sleaziest used

666
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:34.639
car salesman's on the planet Earth.
And he is in a war with another

667
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:39.559
used car lot in a town in
Arizona that is even sleazier than his used

668
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:45.400
car lot, and which used car
lot is actually going to succeed and which

669
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:46.800
is going to fail, and which
one is going to run a foul of

670
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:53.239
FCC communications rulings about what you can
and cannot say in advertising to sell your

671
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:58.400
horrible jalopies that are going to fall
apart the minute they drive off the lot.

672
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.320
Kurt Russell ishilarious in the movie.
It has an incredible turn at the

673
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.840
end with a judge with the meanest
judge in the world, who was played

674
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:16.159
by l Grandpa Munster Lewis. This
is one fantastic, bizarre, hilarious late

675
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:21.920
seventies early eighties, America is going
to hell and and handbasket movies, and

676
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.920
I cannot recommend it enough. Okay, so the criteria was exactly what Black

677
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:30.880
Comedies just. I mean, everything
is a dark comedy if you laugh,

678
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:40.039
right, I mean I actually I
find the movie Ordinary People to be hilarious.

679
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.239
Okay, that's a good one.
That's a good one if you want

680
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.960
to see a hilarious shrink save a
guy a kid's life by telling him how

681
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:58.119
to feel. Yeah, and it
is it is. It's not nice to

682
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.199
your people, Rob, I would
say, it's a very uh, it's

683
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:04.199
not nice to your people either.
Let's be quite honest with you, my

684
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.679
people, savior people, even though
we do so, it's very bad acting,

685
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:13.119
yeah, by Judd Hirsch. That
is. There isn't a performance in

686
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:20.639
Ordinary People by Judd Hirsh that is
so bad. That is what it's.

687
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.679
It's like, it's almost like he
went to the uh, you know,

688
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:31.000
the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art of
Hamas. But you gotta what's amazing is

689
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:37.039
that they asked him to reprise the
role in Independence Day. Yes, and

690
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:43.840
then and then the Bableman's like,
we can't get away from him, and

691
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.719
he was he was good on taxi
and then look what happened to him.

692
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:50.639
Anyway, he was well. In
everyone in Hollywood's defense, it's hard to

693
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:57.559
find a Jewish guy talking about a
Jewish actor. Really. Now Strike is

694
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:01.559
over. Yeah, well it's different
now, I know, so you can't

695
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:05.400
think of a well no, I
mean, I like, like I was.

696
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.960
If we were having a different we
were a different place in the conversation.

697
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.599
I would say, like, I
keep seeing that Harold and Maude is

698
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:14.800
being replayed and I want to rewatch
it, but I also don't want to

699
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:21.440
rewatch it. Yeah, I know, I will say. If you're just

700
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:29.159
looking for escapism, I gotta say
every year step Brothers goes further up my

701
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:34.480
list as when it's on, I
gotta watch it. I actually bought a

702
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:42.679
T shirt the other day for the
Catalina Wine mixer, so like does that

703
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:45.320
is also, you know, this
is the twentieth anniversary of Elf, which

704
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:49.320
is a great movie. So neither
of these dark neither of these black comedies,

705
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.320
I should know they're not black comedy
made is a black comedy. I

706
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:57.840
mean, I believe Jonah that once
upon a time I found and sent you

707
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:02.719
a shirt that said Oscar Madison for
counsel. I believe you did. I

708
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:07.960
did yes because of the Odd Couple
episode where Oscar Madison runs for city council.

709
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:13.800
This is my kind of shirt because
it's so obscure. Yeah, that

710
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.480
it doesn't look like you're selling any
brand, So I didn't tell you on

711
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.480
the At the Dispatched meetup last night, there was this guy, good guy

712
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:27.400
from Brooklyn, who first of all, he asked me to sign my books,

713
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.199
which I was always happy to do, right, And then he brought

714
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.480
He thought he was gonna like you
didn't want to hurt Steve Hayes's feelings,

715
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.199
so he brought a book for him, But it turns out he made a

716
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.880
mistake and he bought Steve Hayward's Politically
and Correct Guide to the President, so

717
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.960
he had him sign that too.
And then he was reading Patty Chaievski's autobiography,

718
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:51.280
which he says is fantastic and it's
got a great scene in it,

719
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.480
apparently from seventy seven, because he
was a presenter the year after he won

720
00:57:54.480 --> 00:58:00.760
the Oscar and Lynn Redgrave gave some
anti Israel spiel and then that's a red

721
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:05.440
Grave and he cut her down to
size on stage, and so by the

722
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:07.960
end of the night we got so
deep in our cups that he asked me

723
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:10.599
to sign that too. By the
way, that is a great book.

724
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:15.760
And it's not his autobiography. It's
called mad as Hell. Yes, it's

725
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:21.360
by Dave. It'skoff who writes to
The New York Times his biography of fascinating,

726
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.920
fascinating book. I have to say, can I pitch a dark comedy?

727
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.039
Sure? Because I failed? All
Right, you're not gonna like how

728
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.280
it starts. We're gonna have to
give him notes. Go ahead, you're

729
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.280
not gonna like how this starts,
but you got to stay with it.

730
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:37.599
Okay, Oh you're pitching. Pitching. I thought you were like, yeah,

731
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:43.679
I'm just thinking about it. Something
that John said. Something John said

732
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:45.480
earlier. You said, don't go
to your Jewish friends and say I will

733
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:49.760
hide you. And I wanted to
break in. You were so passionate,

734
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.760
want to break in and say,
like, don't worry John, I won't

735
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:58.159
hide you. I don't have the
room. I'm on the expectation of you

736
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:00.800
and the guy in the In the
first act of the Diary, Van Frank

737
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:07.119
from the audience shouting she's in the
attic so bad, right, just so,

738
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.480
so, just say a guy hides
his friend, yes, and his

739
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:15.480
friend's girlfriend or wife, and then
he kind of falls in love with a

740
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:17.880
girlfriend and the wife, you know, like she's great, she's really cool,

741
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.000
but he kind of doesn't really like
the friend anymore. See, now

742
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.639
he's got to figure out a way
to unhide the friend but keep hiding the

743
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:30.559
girlfriend. And that's just the opener. I don't know how it goes,

744
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:36.800
but I like that. It's good. Yeah, it's uh, it's got

745
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:42.360
it's got some darkness to it,
that's for that's for sure. And uh,

746
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:44.679
but still got what we say in
show business, we call it it's

747
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.280
got the heart, got the ticker, It's got the ticker. I just

748
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:52.199
want to commend to everybody's attention probably
tomorrow. We're recording this Thursday afternoon,

749
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.639
so maybe you're not even going to
be able to hear this until tomorrow,

750
00:59:55.039 --> 01:00:00.639
but everybody should go to commentary dot
org and read Rob's Hollywood commentary this month,

751
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:07.119
which is called the content moderation crisis
and is that right way to get

752
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:14.480
content content crisis right? And it's
basically the rules under which Rob, as

753
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:20.920
a Hollywood creative is now being asked
to conceive of the TV shows and the

754
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:25.719
movies that the studios think they want
to make for people. And it will

755
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.519
chill your blood, it will crack
your bones. It make you think that

756
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:35.159
you will never again. You might
enjoy it, I mean the piece you'll

757
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:39.239
enjoy. The piece you'll enjoy.
It is what Rob and his fellow creatives

758
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:45.079
are being asked to fulfill. The
mandate that they're being asked to fulfill.

759
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:53.800
That is jaw dropping in its again, like end of all civilization right there

760
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:58.679
on a piece of paper right in
front of you, from the people who

761
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:01.679
command the heights of our culture.
And it's a great piece. And it

762
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:07.519
will be in the December issue of
Commentary dot org online again like over this

763
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:15.480
coming weekend, the tenth, eleventh, twelfth and thereby. So that's my

764
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.320
relation, all right. And I
will be, of course every day on

765
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:24.159
the Commentary podcast being even less cheerful
than I was on this podcast. You

766
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:30.920
Yeah, people have been telling me
for a while now that I should listen

767
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:37.599
to this podcast, The Rest is
History, Oh, which has got what

768
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.400
to say, Tom Holland, the
British historian and another guy on it.

769
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.920
It's called The Rest Is history.
A lot of people I know really really

770
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:46.519
like it. I finally started listening
to it when I was in New York

771
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:52.079
yesterday. I started listening to the
episode on The Blackout of nineteen seventy seven.

772
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:58.679
And I'm sure pod will have notes
on it because it's a little at

773
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:01.360
points, it's you can't thisuish between
whether it's a liberal perspective or sort of

774
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:06.880
a British perspective or just a thirty
thousand foot thing. But it's really good

775
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:10.880
and it's got a lot of granular
like stats and data, and the other

776
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:15.320
show titles look really pretty exciting as
well, so I'm kind of psyched about

777
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:20.199
it. And the only other thing
I'll tell people is I am now going

778
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.960
to be part of the starting standing
rotation, so I won't be on every

779
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.239
week, but Chris Wallace is gonna
have a new show that's gonna be on

780
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:30.960
Saturday mornings. We'll record on Friday
evenings, and I'm going to be on

781
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.920
it, and I'll be on it
this Saturday on CNN. Actually, yeah,

782
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:38.280
all right, I'm excited. That
gives me something to watch that may

783
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:43.039
not depress me as much as the
other things made that I have been watching.

784
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:47.280
Rob Martine. Let's sell the Martini
Shot right now. Sell the Martini

785
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:51.719
You go to Mawthankler dot com,
or you can go to Martini Shot and

786
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:57.800
you can wherever you get your podcast, and you can subscribe to my under

787
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:05.280
fourteen minutes. I promise little disquisitions
on show business and and how it relates

788
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.719
to you. But it's a but
it's under fifteen minutes. I always,

789
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:15.920
I promise you. I'm trying to
lead the lead the new trend to short

790
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:22.000
to podcastlets, podcast debts, little
mick podcasts, podcast light. You know,

791
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:22.800
they're all like, well, this
is a this's gonna be a little

792
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.760
long one. There's gonna be two
hours talking to you. But no,

793
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:30.079
I don't do anything podcast seats,
podcast eats. Yeah, now, bite

794
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:35.880
size excellent. Well I missed that
stupid app that just had movies on your

795
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.920
phone for ten minutes, the ten
minute movie at Quibi Quibi. Oh.

796
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:43.000
I love that you were like the
only person defending it when it was going

797
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.000
down the toilet. I wanted it
to work so badly. I just think

798
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:50.320
that I wanted it to create a
kind of a movement for everything to be

799
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:55.480
eleven minutes. Yeah, well,
you like TikTok and the entire Republican Party

800
01:03:55.639 --> 01:04:00.639
just came out last night for the
complete abolition. Not only should Hamas be

801
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:09.400
completely obliterated, TikTok should be completely
obliterated. So you are, you are

802
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.880
and in this and as many in
many other ways. You are. You

803
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:16.280
are no longer in the mainstream of
the Republican Party. Yeah, that that

804
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.000
should not be breaking the news here. So we will be back in a

805
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.119
couple of weeks to be even further
out of the mainstream of the Republican Party.

806
01:04:24.199 --> 01:05:09.840
See you guys later. Ready,
Ready, this is gonna be uh

807
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:15.000
I don't know if this is ladder
ready three two one. If you're anything

808
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like me, you have a certain
tendency to put things off til the very

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last minute. I can guarantee you
that my commentary editors, John Fedor it's

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and uh At let me do it
again. I don't want to bring Amy

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to do this. Not fair.
Three to one.

