1 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:18,320 I'll beg heav ocasions. My mind is strategy verysi. So I spent this, 2 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:22,480 pars out and that and on a make them looking at the clothes, 3 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,120 they looking at my bed. I just mind end up but nothing with nothing 4 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,719 victim funny, Well we live them, but ain't nobody had it? When 5 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:37,359 I with the headlines out making other destraction as we have a happy really good 6 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:43,000 tell still flat in a bar song like ain't on myself? It starts showed 7 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:46,679 up to do this, gonna move fewers hopeful like the keys of Computerist. 8 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:50,240 You couldn't tell which one is. Shoot up group worked, school walked. 9 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:53,439 They can't even see the room worked. But the part's gonna leading like coop 10 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,840 coups in it says sickness. You can find it. Try to get my 11 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,079 starts in alignment to this. And when I just said this on timing order 12 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:07,480 the team that's body they save my phony signed it was out here like Simon 13 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,439 said, I'm ahead, got put her on top of my red if you 14 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:14,079 need it, I can spread. I'm gonna get to the top of the 15 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:17,879 world, but I only got my legs. You'll push it to the limit. 16 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,359 No, we don't just try our best if you gotta tell them something, 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,599 better tell them that you next, miss Patrae order to create them. 18 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,359 Don't wake come up, bust the leaders. Sooner's time to take my shot. 19 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,719 I'll be feeling the parenas swoops out, so my voice, it's uppenty, 20 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:36,519 bends a beamle might put the king to sleep. Because I always spend 21 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,760 a dream up. I haven't having visions. My mind is straged, princess. 22 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,959 So I spent these barts out and added on her. Read them looking 23 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,760 at the police, say, looking at my bed man, I just might 24 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:53,480 end up for another freedom of victim. Funny will be living. But ain't 25 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:57,959 nobody laughing? When I read the headlines out thinking of the other's section. 26 00:01:57,519 --> 00:02:05,359 Ask me how it happy? I say, ain't all myself. We don't 27 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,439 play a round because I'm too old and I'm walking around with his injury. 28 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:12,560 Good boss for the new league, y'all foundation in the industry, I feel 29 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,879 the rams at the top, and we're gonna act well. I'm on the 30 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,800 enemies. We got hope with me. That's a new way with a little 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,800 bit of hood energy. Most rapports the slow level. I upgraded for the 32 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,120 cars. You ain't never seen that pop friends, in the cutting, clutching 33 00:02:24,199 --> 00:02:28,400 their yall, seeing the ice cube of that swamp water. Every day. 34 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:31,000 I used to chop borders, long visits within no limits, now cheating chong 35 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,560 at the border, tenty ars and that stickboy, I ain't playing the rapper, 36 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,159 that's got it. It's that lot of clear, those snoping mirrles, 37 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:40,479 got y'all thinking this is Maddy. I'm with Hope boy in a matrix. 38 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,680 So I'm sucking, gonna hey, this is gonna fix thish, gonna make 39 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:46,639 shift, dropping them. This seems like it's eighty sister. Every every float 40 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:51,199 for the car, for the culture from the prison yard, bloat boats, 41 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,719 no hear bolls win four years without cars, ge y'all cuss a little what 42 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,439 I said, crazy, got to thank God for these plays. Ain't coming 43 00:02:57,479 --> 00:03:00,240 to fascinate with no lights. I'm never pumping my mind. Please don't start. 44 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:06,080 They have in fictionis my mind distracted dresses? So I spent this farselt 45 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:10,120 and added on a random looking at the police, they looking at my pavement. 46 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,280 I just might end up but nothing nothing victim funny will be living. 47 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,680 But ain't nobody last n When I read the headlines, I think of the 48 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,120 distraction. He has been away happy really can't tell stiff trying to get a 49 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:53,840 bar song like, ain't on myself. You're listening to total humination, Command 50 00:03:53,000 --> 00:04:32,040 God, don't get sorely Maxio. Good morning, Welcome, everybody, Here 51 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:35,720 we go. It is that time again, Matt Connorton unleashed and we are 52 00:04:35,879 --> 00:04:42,839 live from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM, Inglorious, Manchester, 53 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,839 New Hampshire on Canal Street. Today is Saturday, May eighteen, two 54 00:04:46,959 --> 00:05:03,199 thy twenty four and I am not alone. Good morning, Suntime. Jenny 55 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:08,279 is here at the news table. Good morning. I am yes, Yes, 56 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:13,160 and we've got an exciting show for you today. We do yes Yes, 57 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,680 and our first guest and we just heard one of his tracks. We 58 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,120 have Hoped the rapper here in studio with us. How are you, sir, 59 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:21,480 I'm doing good. I'm doing good. How are you guys? Good? 60 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:27,720 Good, welcome and uh, thank you for having me when you originally 61 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,800 reached out to us. So we have a track that we're going to be 62 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,759 playing in a little bit called Mama Yeah, which is really cool and that's 63 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:40,160 first song though Visions that also includes mister goodbars correct. Yeah. We've had. 64 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,680 He's been on the show a couple of times, and even when he's 65 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,519 not on the show, his name comes up a lot, you know, 66 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,360 because he's just very active and it's cool too that he works with multiple genres 67 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:51,800 of music and yeah, really talented guy. Yeah, I know, it's 68 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:57,600 awesome. So it's been really good working with somebody like mister Goodbars because not 69 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:00,000 only does he have like the rapping aspect of it, but he also like 70 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,120 educates me on like the business aspects of it. Yeah, he's just been 71 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:08,800 around the industry enough, like nob oh absolutely absolutely. Yeah, fascinating guy 72 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:11,839 to talk to if you have any questions or anything at all. For our 73 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:14,720 guests, hope the rapper is here with us. The studio line is open, 74 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,000 uh six oh three two five oh six oh seven, six oh three 75 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:21,120 two five oh six oh seven. We also have the text line at six 76 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,600 one seven nine one seven four four seven six. UH. You can reach 77 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,000 me on social media at Matt connorton. You can email me Matt at Matt 78 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,959 conorton dot com, and of course you can interact end O Pine in the 79 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,839 Facebook live chat and you can even go to Matt condorton dot com slash live. 80 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:40,360 Uh. For all the contact info and live streaming options. But the 81 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:42,560 best thing to do is to give us a call at six o three two 82 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:47,120 five oh six o seven, tell us about we'll we'll play it. Uh, 83 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:49,560 we'll play that in a couple of moments on Mama. But tell us 84 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,000 about that track because that's the one that you that's the one you reached out 85 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,439 to us about specifically, so obviously that's a special one to you. Absolutely. 86 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,120 So my whole life, my mom was like probably one of the most 87 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,800 important people in my life. Yeah, and recently she has been going through 88 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,759 some things in life that has set her back, and just like seeing her 89 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:15,920 not as strong, seeing her trying to like fight through these moments, it 90 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,839 kind of reminds me of where I get that fight from because a lot of 91 00:07:18,959 --> 00:07:24,160 times people look at me in situations like why haven't you given up? And 92 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:28,199 that comes from my mom. That's strength. So I made this track so 93 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:30,759 that she knows that she she had all boys, well we have my sister 94 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:34,519 too as well, but she just primarily boys and she doesn't have to be 95 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,319 that strong. Yeah. So, like when we all have a mom out 96 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,959 there and we all want to like say something to her, so like I've 97 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,560 always wanted to write a song for my mom. But just like hearing like 98 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,040 the news of my mom not being as strong as like I know that she 99 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,360 is. Yeah, just the words flew on her paper. I wrote that 100 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:51,879 song probably in less than twenty minutes. Oh no kidding, Wow, wow. 101 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:56,519 Yeah, it's a it's a great track. It kind of it reminded 102 00:07:56,519 --> 00:07:59,959 me a little bit of Dear Mama by Tupac. That's kind of the inspiration 103 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,319 behind that. Dear Mama by Tupac was one of I remember like just driving 104 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:05,360 around as a kid, and I was like, yeah, that's exactly how 105 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,319 I feel about my mom. I'm not going through any of these things, 106 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:11,439 but how I feel about her. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. So 107 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,040 she's heard it obviously. Yeah, what kind of feedback did she give you? 108 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:20,480 So my with music, so I do make primarily like secular music, 109 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:24,160 but she's always wanted me to make a Christian song, and that's kind of 110 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:26,000 like where a lot of the inspiration of this song was, like it was 111 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,439 something that I wanted to make her song that she can listen to all the 112 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:33,320 time of my music. Yeah, So her reaction to it was kind of 113 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,840 like she was taken back because she hasn't heard me rap that way since I 114 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,120 was probably like eighteen oh, a lot of Christian music. That's why I 115 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,879 started rap. Yeah, and then so just her hearing me back in that 116 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,200 element and everything like that, it felt great. Yeah, So I'm probably 117 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:52,200 gonna be making more music like for her to be able to listen to her 118 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,399 and like that whole genre of people, because like I do connect with it, 119 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:58,879 like that Christian religion. Yeah. Yeah, that's very cool. So 120 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:03,399 we will. Let's go ahead and play this now and then we'll come back 121 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,480 and talk some more and get to know you. We also have a song 122 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:09,480 very appropriate for Father's Day which is coming up, which we'll play later. 123 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,519 Got our balance last year, Dad got one, Mom gets one this year. 124 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,600 Perfect. But let's give this a listen. So the track is by 125 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:18,759 the way, this has this been played on the radio anywhere? No, 126 00:09:20,039 --> 00:09:22,240 So this is a world radio premiere the world. We like the world radio 127 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,080 premieres around here, so very cool. We appreciate it, all right, 128 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,279 So let's check this out. This is Mama, and this is Hope the 129 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:35,000 rapper. Well and something else is playing and I don't know why. That's 130 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,840 a second week in a row. I think that's happened to me. Since 131 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:43,360 happened, I worked great T and T so dealing with technology. There you 132 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,679 go, all right, here we go. I think we've got it. 133 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:58,519 Here it is. This is Mama, and this is Hope the rapper O. 134 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,200 It's open sent It's gonna be okay, Mama. Let's walk through the 135 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,360 rain. Mama. See you when you smile, you ain't got out out 136 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,720 of pain. Mama, don't know what the same mama, looking for some 137 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,480 change, Mama. Sorry for those hiss I was hiding in my pain. 138 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:16,799 Mama. It's gonna be okay, Mama. Let's walk through the rain. 139 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Mama. See you when you smile, you ain't got out your pain. 140 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:24,879 Mama, don't know what the same mama, looking for some change, Mama, 141 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,679 Sorry for those I was hiding in my pain. Mama. What I 142 00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:31,759 need some manergy. I'm praying for your strength. Still a bend the table, 143 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:35,919 and I've been thinking about the bench, telling them miss your turn. 144 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,519 I tried myself and broke the wrench. It's gonna hurt my back if I 145 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,679 keep sitting on the fence, only being a human when it comes to my 146 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,480 defense, showed me what is real because they just playing this pretending I just 147 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,679 hold my Mama meets my family in the end. Came a long way from 148 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,879 when they call us aliens. It's gonna be okay, Mama. Let's walk 149 00:10:56,919 --> 00:10:58,879 through the rain. Mama, see you when you smile, You ain't got 150 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,519 out how to pain. Mama don't know what to say. Mama looking for 151 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,480 some change, Mama, Sorry for those his I was hiding in my pain. 152 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:09,799 Mama, It's gonna be okay, Mama. Let's walk through the rain. 153 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,639 Mama, see you when you smile, You ain't got out out of 154 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,000 your pain. Mama don't know what the same. Mama looked it for some 155 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,720 change, Mama, Sorry for those his I was hiding in my pain. 156 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:24,080 Mama's hell him. If I could I take your pain in making mine, 157 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:26,720 I don't want to be your son. If Mama could have shined, she 158 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:31,440 told me, in this world, hardy giving you is time. The rest 159 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,720 of it is senergy, consistency, and grind the way life playing. And 160 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,919 I just want to hit Rwan, but only if I'm taking all the knowledge 161 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,360 in my mind. So maybe all the travesties are actually a lesson. Don't 162 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,320 ask me for I love her because that never been the question. It's gonna 163 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,360 be okay, Mama. Let's walk through the rain. Mama. See you 164 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,600 when you smile, you ain't got out out of pain. Mama. Don't 165 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,480 know what the same mama looking for some change. Mama. Sorry for those 166 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,080 hiss I was hiding them pain. Mama. It's gonna be your pain. 167 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:05,440 Mama. Let's walk through the ring. Mama. See you when you smile, 168 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,759 you ain't got out your pain. Mama, don't know what the same 169 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:13,120 mama looked there for some change, Mama. Sorryful, I was hiding in 170 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:20,120 my pain. Mamah. That's nice. That is mama, and that is 171 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,080 Hope the rapper here with us live in studio. That's the world radio premiere 172 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,639 of that track. So really really good. Thank you for that too as 173 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,480 well. I appreciate you giving me that chance. We love getting to do 174 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,080 that. Oh yeah, absolutely no, we're glad you. We're glad you 175 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,799 reached out to us. We'll play the we'll play the Dada song a little 176 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:39,240 bit later. But yeah, really really good. Where do you record, 177 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,559 by the way, because the production is excellent, So two different studios. 178 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,840 I do record with mister Goodbar's, but I also work in Lowell at Stupid 179 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:52,879 Genius Studios and my French has Okay, he was part of a music group 180 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,879 that went on to California, but he actually came back here and is producing 181 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,679 music, has his own studio. Oh, it's been awesome because I connected 182 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,799 with a bunch of individuals in Lower Massachusetts who have been helping lift me up 183 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,879 in the game. So I have like the super Genius Studios, I have 184 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:13,320 One Eyed Visuals that I record with. Just I keep a close knit community 185 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,960 that I work with. Yeah, and it's been great because we reach out 186 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,679 to each other when each other has projects, and we help lift each other 187 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,320 to the next step. Yeah, yeah, that's excellent. How long have 188 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:30,159 you been recording hip hop so this go around, it's been three years. 189 00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:35,519 Prior to this, I used to make music whenever I was like fourteen. 190 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,440 I remember, Oh, I think I found something of yours online from like 191 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:41,679 twenty eleven or something. Yeah. Yeah, I made music when I was 192 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:45,159 like fourteen. It's funny because all the old music that you'll hear of mine, 193 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,480 I didn't record in like a professional studio at all. I had my 194 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,039 Windows computer. I couldn't afford a mic, so I used my rock band 195 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,919 mic. Yeah, so I literally plug my rock band MIC and like would 196 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,000 just make it sound as good as it could, and then I would release 197 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,279 music that way. But it came to a point where I got lost in 198 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:09,000 life where I stopped making music. But then I stopped drinking. And then 199 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:09,759 once I stopped drinking, I was like, you know what, I was 200 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:13,639 really good at making music? Yeah, something of mine. And then since 201 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,480 then I picked up the pen put down the bottle. Yeah yeah, So 202 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,879 what is it about not drinking that helped you with that? Did it just 203 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:24,480 kind of clear your mind and more of a focus, Because rather nights where 204 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:28,559 I'd want to like go out and drink and let go, I'm at home 205 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,559 like writing or reading and like trying to figure out different like ryme patterns and 206 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,519 different schemes and stuff like that, because it, to me, it's more 207 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,120 than just like the rhyme and the punchlines. I think it has to be 208 00:14:37,159 --> 00:14:39,639 a lot of deeper, like the double entendres, the triple on tendres, 209 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:43,919 like really getting into it, but not like on a lyrical miracle level, 210 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,799 and it still has to respect the art and still sound like music. Yeah, 211 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,840 yeah, we have a The drinking thing is interesting it sounds like that 212 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:54,240 was getting in the way because we know somebody who we have that conversation with 213 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,759 occasionally where drinking can kind of get in the way. So now do you 214 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,440 not drink it? All? Are good for you? Good for you? 215 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:07,720 So it's just been music for me. It's it's awesome too because like I'll 216 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,120 go out to like these events and shows that I'll have and the luster for 217 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:15,159 it isn't there. Yeah. I like the environment that I can create, 218 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:16,759 and then like I go back into my own little shell where I'm like, 219 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:20,200 all right, what what can I do next? Yeah? Yeah, no, 220 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,759 that's really cool. Now are you? Because uh, there's a couple 221 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:26,360 of references in the songs are are You? From Kenya? Originally? Okay? 222 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:31,679 So I moved to America nineteen ninety eight, nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, 223 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:35,840 so it was definitely an interesting trip moving to America. There was like 224 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:39,399 eleven of us and I'm at wow, no kidding, yeah, wow, 225 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:43,679 eleven of us two bedroom apartment and my dad is probably one of the hardest 226 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,759 working people that I've ever met in my life. I've never understood it till 227 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:52,799 I was older, Yeah, because I always took it as like punishment because 228 00:15:52,879 --> 00:15:56,440 like I didn't understand like where we came from. Now as an adult, 229 00:15:56,519 --> 00:15:58,519 I look back or where we came from, and I see all the things 230 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:00,679 that he's done. I'm like, you couldn't have on that if you didn't 231 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,159 focus. So like being able to do that has just been able to help. 232 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:10,080 Is that where where your drive and focus comes from? Do you think 233 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,000 from the example set by your dad? Yeah? Absolutely? Absolutely. For 234 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:18,440 a while, I was just very resistant to it because like I had my 235 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:22,240 own ideas of like what I wanted life to be. I was like just 236 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:26,039 like really in love like with the idea of America and everything like that, 237 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,480 like, no, leave me alone, I'm American. But he just like 238 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:32,039 remember your roots. Like in the end of the day, you can like 239 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:33,320 do whatever you want here. But then in the day, if you don't 240 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,759 like behave right, if you don't act right, you'll get sent right back 241 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:38,840 to again. And like if you don't, if you don't understand them, 242 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,759 then it's just gonna happen to you. So then, ever since like I 243 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,279 finally like sat back and just like talk to my dad, like had these 244 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,159 conversations with my dad that I refused to have when I was younger. And 245 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:55,759 that he wasn't wanting to have the conversations. I refuse to have them, 246 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,879 and since then I've been very focused. Yeah yeah, that's awesome. Eleven 247 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,000 of you so big family? Yeah yeah, my dad has like eleven brothers 248 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,279 and sisters, my mom probably eight, No kidding, that's a huge family. 249 00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:14,200 Wow. Wow? Was that? I mean it's hard for me. 250 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,839 I grew up in a very small family, so it's hard for me to 251 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,680 even imagine. I mean, was that difficult growing up having because it sounds 252 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,119 like you're very crowded, especially when you first came to America. But then 253 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:26,960 again, I mean, if you grew up in a big family, I 254 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,160 guess that's all you knew, right, So I don't know, was that 255 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,559 it's stressful? Did you ever have moments where it was like, geez, 256 00:17:32,599 --> 00:17:37,000 I wish I wish I had some I don't know, Yeah, space exactly. 257 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:38,799 Honestly, it comes to a point where you do you do want that 258 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,799 space, And that's where you see as an adult, where people grew apart. 259 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,880 If we were in the position to have our own space and grow in 260 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,839 our own element, who knows what could have happened. But that's not the 261 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,079 cards that life handed us. So we had to look at the cards that 262 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,559 life handed us and figure out how to still stay around each other. Yeah, 263 00:17:56,599 --> 00:18:00,400 and there's points in time where we'll still like break apart, but in 264 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,880 the end of the day, the chorus is still there. Yeah, the 265 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,119 important part. And I think it's those struggles, remembering how much we struggled 266 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,599 with each other. It's like, now, let's just talk this out like 267 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:11,920 this, this is solvable. We've we've been through worse, we could have 268 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,839 imagined worse, and we got out of that, right, So this situation 269 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:18,680 we can't make a monster out of, right, right. Yeah, it's 270 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,759 a good way of looking at it. Now, when did you How old 271 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:26,640 were you when he started making music? And writing? Music has always been 272 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,519 in my blood before I moved to America. My dad called me when I 273 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,880 was like in Africa and he asked me, like what I wanted for like 274 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,079 gifts. When I got to America, I asked for a drum, a 275 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,880 piano, and guitar. Now I don't play all those instruments fluently to this 276 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:45,079 day, but like just that idea of making music was in my head. 277 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:48,599 Me and my sister, we'd sit there, we just like he had a 278 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,319 little karaoke machine. It didn't have like it wasn't the one with the words 279 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,680 or anything like that. It's just like a mic and a speaker. So 280 00:18:55,799 --> 00:18:59,599 we just like performed these little shows. He'd always have his camera too as 281 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,920 well, so he there's a bunch of videos of me when I was younger. 282 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:07,680 I started because they were very Christian and like Captain Verians, so like 283 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,960 it only had me listen to like raps like Aaron Carter. Okay, like 284 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:18,480 bow wow Aaron Carter. It wasn't until my dad found Nas and he respected 285 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:22,920 what NAS did, and he's like this this guy Nas, there's a video 286 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,319 I know, I can't. He had me watch that with all the kids, 287 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,559 like I know I can't remember, like him like introducing me into like 288 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:30,759 the whole rap world. But he didn't want me to get too into it 289 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:33,680 because they didn't want my mind to get lost. That's really interesting to me, 290 00:19:34,839 --> 00:19:38,160 So so it sounds like so so he heard Nas and was like this 291 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:41,240 guy's so good and Nas is I mean, let's be honestly, some would 292 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:47,880 say the best ever. So he he was so enamored with Nas. He 293 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,039 was like, Okay, I can't I can't keep this from him. Yeah, 294 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:53,440 he even had a like a DVD because like back then they used to 295 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:59,200 make DVDs for music videos. Yeah, he even had NAS DVD music videos. 296 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,480 And I don't think like knows like the impact of just not something that 297 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,319 small did to me as a kid. But I was like, this is 298 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,799 life for me. I don't know what else is going on, video games 299 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:11,440 all that. No, this is what I want to get into. Yeah. 300 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:18,559 Wow. So and then once he like, did he bring bring other 301 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,119 artists to your attention to or was it kind of like okay, no, 302 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,240 I'm gonna show him NAS and then he's kind of on his own. Yeah, 303 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,359 it was more of NAS than I'm on my own. He always like 304 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:32,240 would we'd watch like music videos together. Back in the apartment that we lived 305 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:37,880 in, he always had music playing, but more than rap. It was 306 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:41,319 like an R and B home. Yeah, so we listened to a lot 307 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,559 of old R and b's, so like the soul and all that, like 308 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,279 melodies and all that is in me. Because of that, my sister is 309 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:52,640 a much better singer. So I was discouraged when I was younger, like 310 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,880 I'm not gonna get like good at this. She's really good at this. 311 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:56,240 Yeah, I'm gonna get get at the wrap party and she could sing. 312 00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:59,519 I had this whole idea in my head We're going to be this group. 313 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:06,160 Yeah, but she she's doing big things with Amazon right now, so like 314 00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:10,759 I'm happy for her. Okay, so she doesn't she doesn't still sing or 315 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:14,119 no, no, no, I think she's like the Northeast operational manager for 316 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,160 all of Amazon's. Oh so she's got a big job's Did you ever have 317 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,799 an opportunity to record anything with her? Is? No, that's that is 318 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:25,640 a dream of mine. Yeah, there's gonna be one day where I write 319 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,000 a hook and I'm gonna be like, hey, what are you doing just 320 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,400 like this one song that we could have? Yeah, and that would be 321 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,680 amazing for me. Yeah, no doubt, No doubt. I did whenever 322 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,519 I was younger. My little brothers, I don't. I'm not sure if 323 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:41,799 they wanted to, but like I'd make them like rap with me and I 324 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,640 recorded them. Oh no kidding. Have any of your family have they also 325 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:51,640 done anything in terms of music? No, I'm pretty much the one who's 326 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,720 like this is it like, because like they're all hard workers. I'm a 327 00:21:55,759 --> 00:22:00,680 hard worker too, but music is just something that I had an extra passion 328 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:03,519 for Yeah, yeah, and you you're from Lowell? You live in Lowell? 329 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:08,119 No, I live in Hudson. Oh Hudson. Oh okay, all 330 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,480 right. The studio that you yeah, the studio recording and like mostly everything 331 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:17,279 I do music wise is Lowell. I do it with either like One Eyed 332 00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:19,240 Visuals or Talk of the Town. Yeah, yeah, yeah, One Eye 333 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:22,880 Visuals. I noticed at the beginning of some of your videos. Yeah they're 334 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:26,799 there, now, where are they are they? He it's it's actually one 335 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:32,400 man director, which is amazing. His names Xavier, and he's been recording 336 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,720 music videos for up and coming artists in Massachusetts and giving them a platform for 337 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:41,200 a while. He actually we do shows over at the Smokehouse and okay yeah 338 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,440 yeah, yeah, So we've been doing shows over there, like bringing like 339 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:48,440 legendary artists out and just giving like everybody a chance to like shine. What 340 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:51,720 you do with this is up to you. But he'll put you at the 341 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:53,200 table. Oh that's cool, make you eat? Yeah? Yeah. Did 342 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,079 he do the video? I like the video for chin Up, which which 343 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,119 we're also gonna play today. He did that one ye. Yeah, we 344 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,279 went to New York for It's funny because the Dad video and the chin Up 345 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,960 video were shot within the same like twenty four hour forty eight hour span, 346 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,359 oh okay, And I was so amazed because if you watch chin Up and 347 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,839 if you watch Dad, the themes are completely different. Yeah, so in 348 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,079 this head he was in like two different worlds yep. While I was just 349 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,000 like in my head, I was like, how is he gonna do all 350 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:23,599 this? But no, Like one's like a lighter us theme for like the 351 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,799 Dad one, and then you have like the city theme for the chin Up 352 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:29,519 And I was like, this is amazing. Yeah, when you shoot a 353 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,960 video like chin Up. I've always been curious about this because I've I've played 354 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,240 in a lot of bands and stuff, but we never actually made a video 355 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:38,279 for like none of the projects ever did Did we ever make a video? 356 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:41,240 When you're when you're in the city and you're making a video like that, 357 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,920 what's going on around you? Like are people? Are people walking by and 358 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,920 they're curious or maybe that's something they see every Like in New York you probably 359 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,640 see that every day, right, people filming all kinds of things. But 360 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,319 like, I'm just curious, like, what's going on around you while you're 361 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,240 doing that kind of why I picked New York because, like I knew that 362 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,599 was like a common thing over there. Now now as far as what people 363 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:06,279 are doing, they are watching, which was something that I actually took advantage 364 00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:08,720 of because while we were shooting the chin Up video, I like would walk 365 00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,960 up to like groups of like kids and be like, Hey, I have 366 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:14,920 this one song. Do you wanna listen to it? Real qui because I've 367 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,880 seen a bunch of videos on Facebook like that something. Yeah, what's stopping 368 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,119 me from doing that? Yeah? So then I there's a couple of scenes 369 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,759 in the music video where you'll see me like rapp into groups of people. 370 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,240 Right, I'm like, this is a little bit awkward, but this is 371 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:29,240 actually a powerful song of like I could like play in front of people and 372 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,759 know what I'm doing with it. So then after a while, like people 373 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:34,759 see like people watching you, and then you just become a part of the 374 00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:40,000 city. Yeah. Yeah. I was curious because it's like I would think 375 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:41,720 it would be distracting in a way, like you're trying to do what you're 376 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:45,519 doing and you got all these people around you, But then if you can 377 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,079 involve them in it in some way that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, 378 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,400 yeah, No, it was it's like at first, I was like, 379 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,960 it's just gonna be me, and like in my I got in my head 380 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,519 a little bit. I'm like, no, let me, let me just 381 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,039 involve them, right, Yeah, No, that's cool. You know what 382 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,319 I think we should do. Let's play that one next, but we play 383 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,680 the Dad song too. My dad listens to the show, so we'll play 384 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,319 that. Well, maybe we'll save that one for the end of the segment, 385 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,920 but let's play chin Up because I love this track, and I do 386 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,240 encourage people to go on YouTube and watch the video to the video is really 387 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:17,759 really cool. Where is here it is? And I I did make a 388 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,119 radio edit. I didn't have to. I didn't have to add it much 389 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,200 on this one, but there it is. I just want to make sure 390 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,079 I'm downloading the right one. I don't want to download the wrong one and 391 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,000 then get in trouble. All right, check this out. This is really 392 00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:33,240 cool, very very positive. I love the vibe. This is chin Up. 393 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:37,039 And we have Hope the rapper here with us a live in studio. 394 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:49,599 But let's get us to spend let's go be hell he see okay, And 395 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:55,039 my daddy was black and miss Daddy was black, so I missed the office 396 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,839 up. I can't help them. Will you look at the facts, tell 397 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,640 me who'll send charge? But the look on your face the roofs different with 398 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:06,880 loss, rather see us in costs. Waste the money your boss. Fellow 399 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,079 locks of course riven under the bark. But distress with lights make me feel 400 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,799 like a star if I spend it today, And no hope for them all. 401 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,720 It's the system we live. Got me penditive still taking my shot? 402 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,119 Wouldn't if I don't miss can't live life like this man, There's gotta be 403 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,519 more. Yesterday I was shrowling. Now I'm climbing the shore with this my 404 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,039 god, griff to the beats in the morgue, got the world of my 405 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,599 chest for them only in George that will telling me stress, So I pray 406 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,079 to the Lord. They think life is a game. Want them playing my 407 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:45,119 board? No, no hand four. Should not hould your head high? 408 00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:51,680 We out there dirt just a yet by, We out there dirt just a 409 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,000 yet bye, We out there dirt just a yet by. Should not hold 410 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:03,480 your head high? Were the dirt just a yet pie? We all de 411 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:08,079 dirt just a yet pie, we all. And my mama was black and 412 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,440 the mama was black. She got an army. In fact, that's my 413 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,200 family, my pack. We spread over the mask, but Lord knows where 414 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,960 we at let a trick of the cat. I keep calling these words, 415 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,680 and I know that they're feeling me. I be calling these nerves. They 416 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,039 follow while I'm shopping. Man, this king got me cursed. You wouldn't. 417 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,559 That's the worst. But it follows this purse. I've been stuck up 418 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,359 a first. I just swann to be first, open everything last, running 419 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,279 from the feet. WU my feet on the path again, the swarm feet. 420 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,759 So we meet on the path. Got me on a tase. It's 421 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,680 been weeks on the path. I just keep walking with the world of my 422 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,599 back for the pound of marriage. Just the fay relaxed. How don't roll 423 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,160 the face? Life is more than just crabs, Shady said the Hey, 424 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:59,319 because I'm young and I'm black, don't know where I'm headed. I'm designing 425 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,400 the man. Shin up, puld your head. Ha. We out did 426 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,160 dirt just to get BA. We out did dirt just an get ba. 427 00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:15,279 We out did dirt, just ant yet BA. Shin up puld your head. 428 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,920 Ha. We out didn just to get BA. We out did dirt 429 00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:41,480 just to get ba we out did that is chin Up. That is Hope 430 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,720 the rapper. He is here with us a live in studio on this Saturday 431 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,240 morning. Such a great track. I appreciate that one. Love that one, 432 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,680 and again I encourage people to go on YouTube check out the video. 433 00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:56,319 The video is really cool, but it's catchy as hell. And that we 434 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,240 all did dirt get get stuck in my head that that's a great hurt reminded 435 00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:03,400 me when I was writing it. It has nothing to do with like the 436 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,039 lyrics, but reminded me of like an Acon type of hook, like yeah 437 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:07,559 yeah. So I was like, let me just keep it going like y'all 438 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,759 did just together. And then there was this old nineties song just to get 439 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:15,279 By? Yeah, So that was in my head too when I was writing 440 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:17,400 it. So I was like, Acon, just to get by? How 441 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,279 can I do this? And the Yeah, that's what came out. Is 442 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:22,720 there a sample in there too that I should recognize? I'm not sure if 443 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,319 I don't recognize the sample, Okay, there's there was something familiar in there, 444 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,400 but it might just be you know, it might just remind me of 445 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,559 something. So do you in terms of writing? Obviously you write the lyrics. 446 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,920 You also, do you do the beats? Do you do everything? 447 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:37,559 Or no? The beats I buy the least's force, so I went all 448 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:42,359 the rights for them. Okay, So with writing, that's something that I 449 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:48,640 take like very seriously. Like when I'm writing, like the first song that 450 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,400 we played, the Jordan Cradle Dunk, I didn't know what that was before 451 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,359 I was writing. Yeah, in my head, I like had a picture 452 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,079 of like a basketball move, So then I like would research different types so 453 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,640 basketball moves, and then I would figure out which one would work. Were 454 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,400 the better cadence inside that? Oh wow, that's how I fit that in. 455 00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:08,519 So like I'm writing them research Oh wow. Cool, It's like a 456 00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:12,079 whole thing for me, which I love because it makes it more than just 457 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,880 the song because I could think of where I was at mentally. Mm hmmm. 458 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Yeah, it's interesting. I've never heard anyone explain it that way before, 459 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,440 but that makes sense because, yeah, if you're coming up with some 460 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:27,400 pretty sophisticated references and not everyone's even gonna know which a school too. Now, 461 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,440 can you tell us about because some people probably don't know what you mean 462 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:34,240 and about you know, leasing the beats and stuff, and we talk. 463 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:37,039 We talk a lot of music business on the show too, so I'm sure 464 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,599 people are interested in how that process works. Absolutely, So you want to 465 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,480 make sure that you're very careful because whenever like a couple, like when I 466 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,680 first started in the game, like it in my head it was like get 467 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,039 the beat from YouTube, record over the beat, and it's yours. That's 468 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:56,160 not how somebody owns the rights to those like I get it, like there's 469 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,920 twelve notes and it depends on how you arrange it. But in the end 470 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,599 the day, you want to make sure you're covering your basis so you have 471 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,279 the ability to make money off of this stuff. Yeah, because if you, 472 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,839 let's say you accidentally because it's happened to people where they take a beat 473 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,079 off YouTube and that song accidentally is the one that blows them up. Oh 474 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,880 yeah, but then that song is accidentally the reason why they're in legal issues 475 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,359 for the rest of their life, right, And that's what you want to 476 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,279 avoid. You want to make sure you have the rights, the contracts, 477 00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,440 you say, those all in a file computers, so like if anybody ever 478 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:27,640 asked you, it's actually this, I have it right for this. Because 479 00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:32,359 with the leases too, you want to watch because some of them they'll only 480 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,680 give you a certain amount of like radio plays that you can do, a 481 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,279 certain amount of online plays that you can do. I didn't know that. 482 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:41,359 Oh, I didn't realize that until like a lot recently. So then you 483 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,359 have to buy I get the exclusives now because I don't want the chance. 484 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,000 Where I when I first started, like three years ago, there was a 485 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,599 beat that I got, and after I got the lease for it, somebody 486 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,400 bought the exclusive for it. So I'm not sure how that legally, if 487 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,240 it's even right, but they'll I'll play that game. Though. In the 488 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:04,079 industry, you have to make sure if you have the exclusive rights, at 489 00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,039 the end of the day, you're the one who has the right for it. 490 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,039 But the least is something you want to be careful because there's a lot 491 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:14,279 of terms and conditions with them, right right, I'm old enough to remember 492 00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:19,759 when back in the days, when you know, somebody would put something out 493 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,799 and it would it would use a single a sample that wasn't cleared, you 494 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,079 know, and then there's there'd be all kinds of litigation. And this is 495 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,440 kind of another version of that, right exactly exactly people get in trouble using 496 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,559 stuff that they don't have the rights to exactly. Yeah, and the with 497 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,359 the Internet, it's still kind of I'm sure there's a lot of I mean, 498 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,759 obviously there's ways that you can do it right, like you're yeah, 499 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:44,319 absolutely, And it's also trustable sources too, because you want to make sure, 500 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,039 like even if like for the artists getting your beats off YouTube, you 501 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:51,079 want to be careful because sometimes that person on YouTube doesn't even have the rights. 502 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:57,200 Yeah, yeah, exactly, you paid this person on YouTube and you 503 00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,119 think you covered your base, but you didn't. You didn't because they didn't 504 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:04,279 have the rights to it. So like I go to directly to sources like 505 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,279 like a beat Stars kind of thing or like a Soundclick kind of thing where 506 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,839 they can provide me with the contract that I can reference to later on okay, 507 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,400 because if that person doesn't own the beat and like I make a really 508 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,559 good song on it, I'm almost like discouraged to even write on like YouTube 509 00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:22,599 beats because I don't want it to make a good song and then it's not 510 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,799 mine, right right, I'll get paid off of it. Have you ever 511 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,279 found yourself in a situation where you had to go through and prove no, 512 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,160 look, I have this legally I paid for this, and has that happened 513 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,519 to you or have you been able to only with YouTube? When I after 514 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:42,799 I uploaded a song, but they were referencing to the beat maker Okay, 515 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,759 yeah, so like the beat maker on and I'm like, no, no, 516 00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:46,359 no, no, I bought it from this person. And then I 517 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,319 sent like the email over and then then I was cleared what was the process 518 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,960 like in terms of showing that to YouTube? Because I know, I know 519 00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:58,400 from a lot of content creators, know, you know, it's not like 520 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,640 you can just call them up and say and it's no, no, no. 521 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:05,359 You have to upload documentation, so you have to have the original documentation, 522 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,000 the original receipts and everything like that. They send you an email, 523 00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:10,639 you click on the email. The email brings you to a page where you 524 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,440 upload the documents. Then you wait for litigation or whatever they go through, 525 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,320 and then they decided if it's yours or not. And how long did it 526 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,480 take? Two weeks? Oh that's not bad, Okay, at least I 527 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,960 didn't drag on for a long time. Two weeks. Yeah, now, 528 00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:28,679 LUCKI lethle it wasn't too long, but like still two weeks of like man 529 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,599 I don't know about this song, like, should I just take it down, 530 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,400 like because this might there's also the chance where like you upload that song 531 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,480 and you're on your way up and that song. This actually happened to me 532 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,840 when I was younger, and this was one of the main reasons I stopped 533 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,519 is I had a love the Way You Lie remix. I uploaded it had 534 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:52,480 two hundred and fifty thousand views within like a week, and I like a 535 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,960 organic promotion. Yeah, they took down my channel, no warning, no 536 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,880 nothing, no strikes. You just took Eminem's beat. It wasn't you're right, 537 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,159 And like as a kid, you're like, that's not fair, But 538 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,480 like as an adult, you're like, yeah, you should have covered your 539 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:10,480 base because that was Eminem's beat and no matter how good you did on it, 540 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,280 right, you didn't get permission. Then there's there's ways to do. 541 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:21,280 I haven't looked into like the remix like clauseways, but I do have something 542 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,320 that a cover that I'm working on right now that I'm working on getting cleared 543 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:29,039 for a Black Puma song that I did yeah with my friend. It's actually 544 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,639 they played it. They're playing it on NHPR at the end of this month. 545 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,599 Oh, no kidding. Oh congratulations. Oh that's very cool. I'm 546 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,480 excited about that. Very cool. Well, on what show you so, 547 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:45,440 we did a like a tiny desk concert and conquered Yeah. Yeah, so 548 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:49,400 I'm not sure which one of their channels that they're going to be putting it 549 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,679 up on, but that's gonna be awesome to see up there too. Oh, 550 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,239 very cool. Yeah, congratulations, that's a big deal. That'll get 551 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,519 you. Yeah, yeah, that'll get you a lot of exposure. I'm 552 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,480 very excited for that one. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. It's tricky 553 00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,159 too with the utube stuff because the rules change, you know, like I 554 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,719 put this show after like we're you know, we're going out live on Facebook 555 00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,000 in addition to obviously on FM. But then afterward, I also I download 556 00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:15,360 the video from Facebook and I put it on YouTube, and sometimes I'll get 557 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,239 I'll get different notification, like I don't get in any trouble, but I 558 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,639 get these notifications like your video is blocked in some countries. Yeah, never 559 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,920 the United States fortunately, but it'll it'll be blocked in certain countries or territories. 560 00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:32,920 And that's I've figured that one out actually, with the help of mister 561 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,880 goodbars and partially to the fault of artists, and I stopped doing this with 562 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,159 my songs because as artists, we have the ability to independently upload our music 563 00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:49,280 to multiple platforms. When you use the websites such as distro kid, like 564 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,960 I use, it gives you all these different websites. What you want to 565 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:58,639 make sure is that you're picking like your your titles, your iTunes, your 566 00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:04,239 Spotify's those, But there's a lot of random a lot of different random business 567 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,320 like I don't even know what they are, like, yeah, companies that 568 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,440 you're uploading your music to. Yeah, and they have the rights to it. 569 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,719 Oh so if they flag your music, like if they like pick up 570 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,920 your music on a different platform and you upload it on THEIRS to make money 571 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,159 off of, now they're just like, no, we have the rights to 572 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,599 that. Oh okay, yeah, I've seen that happen to me. So 573 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,960 that's why now I when I upload my music to distro kid instead of it 574 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:35,599 felt good to have my name checked on every single one of those platforms. 575 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,280 But unfortunately, some of these companies that are based in other countries and everything 576 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,679 like that, they're just going to claim the rights to my music. Okay, 577 00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:44,920 Oh, Wow, that's sturdy. I didn't even know. I didn't 578 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,079 even know about that part of it. So good Bars explained it. So 579 00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:50,960 distro Kid doesn't even They don't warn you about that. No, No, 580 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,920 they just say upload your music everywhere, which sounds good. But when it 581 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,639 comes to music, you're talking about legalities. When you're talking about legalities, 582 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,800 people can do whatever they want if you playing with their money, right right? 583 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,719 Oh wow yeah, yeah, it's funny too because uh, now like 584 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:12,920 Facebook does a thing. Now, did you ever put your music on Facebook? 585 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,159 Yeah? Because they do a thing now. Like I said, we 586 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,960 you know, we streamed the show to Facebook, and they used to They 587 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,920 used to knock us off sometimes and I would always appeal and I would write 588 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,119 just an appeal I had to memorize at one point where I would say, 589 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,239 you know, we're a federally licensed uff and radio station, we do a 590 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,719 radio show. And I would always win the appeal, or almost always. 591 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,280 But now what they do is they send me a notification saying we're gonna leave 592 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,960 your video up, but you're you can't monetize it. Yeah, this person's 593 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,840 monetizing off of it exactly. I just got that notification the other week I 594 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,719 don't even know what it was that I uploaded, and like I think it 595 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,519 was they said that I'm making money off of it. Yeah, like this 596 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,880 was picked up. It's Hope the Rappers music. Hope the Rappers is gonna 597 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:01,719 be me. I'm like, okay, yeah whatever. Interesting. I'm like 598 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,280 that is me, but I guess. And I did share his Facebook link 599 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,840 in the chat room. Oh good, good, excellent, Yes, I 600 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,719 saw that. Yeah. Oh, our friend Isaac Banks was asking about influences. 601 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:22,519 Influences, so I would say, now under as far as j Cole 602 00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:31,800 is unpopular as that, that opinion is right now jay Z and then the 603 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,719 Wind Yeah, yeah, I love NAS and I haven't. I don't really 604 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,800 know much Jake Cole. I just the hits, you know, I've never 605 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,159 really listened to him. I love jay Z ninety nine Problems Is. I 606 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,000 mean it changes, but that's probably my favorite hip hop song of all. 607 00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:52,679 Yeah, that song, no matter what mood I'm in, Yeah, it'll 608 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,119 just bring me up. And the video is amazing too. Oh. Our 609 00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:00,760 friend uh Axel Bagley uh is in the chat room from a the band Dad 610 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,199 Harrison and various other projects. He says, keep up the amazing work. 611 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,320 Man, Oh, thank you, thank you. I actually I think I 612 00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:09,920 reached out to Axl when we were doing the tiny desk things. I wanted 613 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,679 him to play guitar. Oh, the right axle that I'm thinking of. 614 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,280 Okay, yeah, yeah, he's amazing. I know him mainly for his 615 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,880 drumming. But but everybody plays multiple instruments these days except me. I'm a 616 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,800 bass player. That's all I can really do. I can play a little 617 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,920 bit of guitar, but not much. Let's let's because we were talking about 618 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,880 it earlier, let's go ahead and play. I was gonna save it for 619 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,519 the end, but let's let's play it now because we've got We've got something 620 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,719 else we can play at the end too. But we were talking about the 621 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,639 Dad song. I think we should play any anything else we should know about 622 00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:45,599 this? Uh uh. Dad is didn't always deserve it's It's definitely an intense 623 00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:52,400 song. So this song is interesting because I started it as I hate song 624 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:59,360 towards like one of my ex girlfriends, really, and then I was writing 625 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,320 and I was thinking about like who I was in that relationship, and I 626 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:07,960 was like, you didn't do things right either, Like you have issues too, 627 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,679 Yeah, like if you're gonna sit there and you're gonna write this song 628 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,159 about this woman, you have to call yourself out first. So then it 629 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,320 became that and then and I was like, what are my issues? And 630 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,320 then I realized a lot of my issues come from the same reasons why I'm 631 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,639 mad at people sometimes, Like, yeah, you have that issues? What 632 00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:29,800 about your dad issues? Have you figured out your dad issues? Because you 633 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,079 can't accuse people without pointing a finger at yourself first. You explaining that makes 634 00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:37,280 me understand the song even better. Yeah, because I listening to it last 635 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,920 night, I understand the lyrics even more now now that you say that that 636 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:45,480 that totally makes sense. And I like that you know that personal response, 637 00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:46,760 but you know it's it's funny. It just as a side note, I 638 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,360 was thinking about this a couple of years ago. I remember thinking about conflicts 639 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,360 I had had in my life along the way, like not not anything professional, 640 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,199 but just personal issues with people, and thinking about it, kind of 641 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,679 reflecting on how most of the time it was actually my own fault. Yeah, 642 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,639 you know, but I but I didn't have the emotional maturity at the 643 00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:10,119 time to recognize it, you know, And and uh uh, there's there's 644 00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:15,440 such a thin line between ruminating and reflecting, and I try to Sometimes I 645 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,760 reflecting on on things as healthy because that's how you learn. Unfortunately, sometimes 646 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,559 I cross that line into ruminating, which is not so healthy. But but 647 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:28,800 I remember reflecting on on on that, and you know, and then you 648 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,000 and then of course, you know, you start to think about things you 649 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:35,199 learned growing up and and what you saw like in your family and your dad, 650 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,239 your mom and whatnot, and how some of sometimes some of those behaviors 651 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,320 they get passed down to you exactly exactly. So that's how I wrote the 652 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,400 song too. So like the first verse is like you'll hear it too, 653 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:49,480 with like the background, it's like it has a deeper tone because it's like 654 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,239 what my dad would say to me, okay. The second verse is what 655 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:57,000 younger me would say to my dad okay. And then I break it off 656 00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:00,480 with the hook again and then it's dad, I finally get it okay, 657 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,519 yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. All right, let's give this a 658 00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:07,280 listen. So this is Dad didn't always deserve and happy Fathers. Everybody check 659 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:22,159 this out this Sunday. This is a great track. Hope the rapper got 660 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,599 some missions that I really need to tend to and janglem Abandonment is always on 661 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,800 the menus and times I look to God and question why Badley saying you had 662 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,239 to learn my lesson. You will membors of my issues if I keep on 663 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,719 tripping on these girls, and will I make it? I got daddy issues 664 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,000 too. I used to be his favorite until he found that money I had 665 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,840 hidden in the basement. Told me, hustle backwards and you'll never be the 666 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,599 greatest, and you don't even need a crowded story on your own. Or 667 00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:52,039 maybe buy some tribe and show me that's your grown. That's what you got 668 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:58,159 to wonder. Wife, want those straight, they get them up the mess. 669 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,440 I know you've got some issues in you, probably ready next. But 670 00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:05,119 I was in the country that I didn't know one's stressed. I didn't have 671 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,559 a mom and dad and a bullet check America America. I felt it on 672 00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:12,800 my neck and with every single breath, I felt the world wouldn't take my 673 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,079 son, and then I felt they did, because so would you become. 674 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,400 I never once imagined that the sevile king on earth, but just imagine it 675 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,000 if I never built the family first. I used to be distraughted when you 676 00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:27,400 always kept and guarded at the time you told me no till me felt like 677 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,599 they the hardest and kid you told me all this. So I'm walking with 678 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,840 the smug until I got me wondering if heavens fall with dog. I want 679 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,519 to learn to catch up all that? Why you kind of work? The 680 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,239 other kids are laughing and the pressure turned their heart. This isn't going no 681 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,719 work. Why you bring me in this country? If I can't wanting family 682 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,360 and you keep wanting money, I am not in tummy. You mean you 683 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,920 want this plan? I'm kenning someone run away the bestest there I can regretting 684 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,719 no decision because I learned to being a man. And if I never falled 685 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,800 and I never learned, the land got some issues that I really need to 686 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,519 tend to entanglem Abandonment is always on the menu. Sometimes I look to God 687 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,480 and question why really saying you had to learn my lesson? You were members 688 00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:12,360 of my issues. And if I keep on tripping on these girls, and 689 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,679 when I make it, I got daddy issues to I used to be his 690 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,239 favorite until we found that money. I had hit it in the basement. 691 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,960 Told me, hustle backwards and you'll never be the greatest and your daddy. 692 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,559 You know, why can't it? All the late nights have me starving and 693 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,119 I ain't even have a key to get in the apartment. What makes it 694 00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,360 the hardest? Since I finally see the light. You was fighting for what's 695 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,960 right and I was fighting for my rights, and every single night we spend 696 00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,840 away it made me bitter. I couldn't understand how your brush will paint the 697 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,719 picture. But now I'm just this day and then it looks like a couple 698 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,119 of castle all that misadvice. I just see it twice tomorrow, browning in 699 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,719 my sorrow. I don't know what about my choices. Siting in my room, 700 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,280 I'll consume my the voices or maybe just the noises in the head. 701 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,119 As of regret, I kept on lighting fire. So what did I expect? 702 00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:00,519 Now? What got me smiling us call and tell a circle? And 703 00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:05,159 every day I'm going in Like when you said the curfew, I didn't mean 704 00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:07,599 to make you scream until you turning purple did and Dad just skates floor. 705 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,840 We did always deserve you. Basically, I'm saying that I'm finally seeing a 706 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,039 vision. Was teaching that make all these sounds I didn't listen I'm sorry for 707 00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:20,079 your kitchens and those sounds. I made a mess, but I was in 708 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,800 the country then I didn't know it's pressed instead a c collect. Then you 709 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,000 would know its pressed the five. So when it comes to family that you 710 00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:31,159 never testify, I want to thank you because I wouldn't pay my father apologies. 711 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:42,159 Well anytime I'm trying to break that is. Dad didn't always deserve Hope 712 00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:45,159 the rapper here with us live in studio. Thank you, thank you, 713 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,880 thank you. I appreciate that one. I appreciate that one. Great track, 714 00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:50,360 great track. That video is cool too, And you were saying that 715 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,840 that was done the same the same time as chan Up Up. Yeah, 716 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,079 yeah, so different because chin Up you know, you're outside and of course 717 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,480 then there's a lot going on. Yeah, and Dad you're just on the 718 00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:06,320 roof. But it's it's cool. He like it's weird because like we shot 719 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,199 the chin Up video and then I was like, because we still had to 720 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,599 shoot the Dad video. That's why we went out there because I did that 721 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:20,199 and then I recorded a video with Mickey FATX, so he like took the 722 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,280 airbnb we were in and just made it a scene. Was no plans, 723 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,039 nothing, he didn't like sit there and like write like a scene by scene. 724 00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:29,519 Yeah, he just like in his head he had like this whole idea 725 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,239 from like when we walked into the airb which was amazing to see him do. 726 00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:37,639 Yeah. So like if anybody visual works, one eye Visuals is the 727 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,440 guy. Okay, okay, yeah cool. How many videos have you done 728 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,800 with him? Pretty much all my videos, So at this point we're looking 729 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,960 at like six seven videos. Melanie La Liberty in the Facebook live chat one 730 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,960 of our friends from Vermont, she says that was nice, thank you, 731 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,599 thank you. I appreciate that. And Isaac Banks says, awesome, really 732 00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,760 awesome all the way, thank you. Do you uh do you play out 733 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,800 a lot? Do you do a lot of live shows? Yes, yes 734 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,639 I did. I just actually did a little tour I did in the last 735 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,599 month and a half, I've done probably eight shows. Oh cool. Yeah 736 00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:16,320 good. Though it's like two a week or something like that. Yeah, 737 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,559 it's it's hard because I have to, like I work like forty to fifty 738 00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:22,960 hours outside of that. Yeah, so it's like one second I'm in Portsmouth, 739 00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:28,000 the next second I'm in like Massachusetts for something, Connecticut for something else. 740 00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,960 And yeah, you just got to balance yourself out. Yeah. How 741 00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:35,239 long of a set do you do typically or does a very fifteen to twenty 742 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,840 minutes? Yeah, that's like a standard set. Some nights I'll go thirty 743 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,760 minutes, or some nights it'll be a shorter set because there'll be a lot 744 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,559 of people on the list. Yeah, but you gotta make do and make 745 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,599 an impact while you're there. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, I used to 746 00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:51,559 do. I used to promote a lot of live shows, and you know, 747 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:53,519 a lot of a lot of rock shows, but but some hip hop 748 00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:58,000 shows too. And some of the other people I would work with on the 749 00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:00,599 hip hop shows, it was like they wanted to cram as many performers in 750 00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:04,679 the night as possible, and it's like at a certain point, it's like, 751 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,000 geez, are you sure we're doing this right, because everybody's gonna get 752 00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:10,400 like ten minutes. Yeah, that's kind of like. So I love doing 753 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,320 shows and everything like that, and I have my platforms that I will stick 754 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:21,440 with, but I can't do shows with artists who aren't serious about themselves. 755 00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:23,920 Yeah, because it came to a point where like you'll look at you'll look 756 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,960 around at your environment and everybody that you're surrounded by, your and you're like, 757 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,000 look at their social media for the last week, and you're like, 758 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,039 I've been sharing every day, I've been trying to engage with my fans. 759 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,360 You haven't done anything right, So you're gonna get my work if I do 760 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,280 this show with you. And you don't want to give your work to people, 761 00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:45,320 right, because it's we It takes a lot to go out there. 762 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,000 It takes a lot to like put yourself out there and like be that figure, 763 00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:52,320 the public figure that we are as musicians. Yeah, and you can't 764 00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,840 give that people just because they have fun making music and that that's it's great 765 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,400 to have passion for making music. Don't get me wrong, not to scourging 766 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,960 a single soul out there, but there is a point where you have to 767 00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:07,320 separate yourself or you become a part of the pack, right. Yeah, 768 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,719 and uh, And there's no excuse for not putting in that effort, right 769 00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:14,079 because it's easier than ever with social media. It's it's not hard buttons, 770 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,559 right, The same buttons that you used to scroll is the same buttons you 771 00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:21,679 could use to share or like even like recording your own stuff isn't even that 772 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,400 hard anymore. Yeah, And then they sell like the little stands and everything. 773 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,480 They make it just so easy to do for yourself that if you're not, 774 00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:30,480 then that just says that you just want the like the name for it, 775 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,039 right, and that that just doesn't work out in my book, Yeah, 776 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,880 you see that a lot. You run into that a lot. Absolutely, 777 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,000 absolutely and it It actually took my video director to tell me, hey, 778 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,159 separate yourself. Yeah, separate yourself because I see, I see the 779 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,920 passion you have for this, but you can't be everywhere because you've become everywhere, 780 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,039 you become part of everything. If you're part of everything, you don't 781 00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:54,760 stand out. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting way to to 782 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,000 put it, and I agree, Yeah, I have an axiom. You 783 00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,000 know. When I first started and getting involved in music, it was like 784 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,800 I said, everyone wants to be a star, but only as long as 785 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,400 it's easy, you know, exactly, Like so many people once once they 786 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,400 realize there's actual effort involved, they're like, oh, I didn't get ten 787 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,639 thousand shares right right? What do I never mind? For the example I 788 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,519 like to use is you know the rock band that thinks if they go and 789 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,320 they play the same club every weekend, that you know the too, the 790 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,559 mythical record company. I like to talk about the mythical record company scout. 791 00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:30,599 It's just gonna happen to wander into the bar one night and see them and 792 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,280 be so impressed that, oh, here's your million dollar ten album contract, 793 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440 Like look at the track history. Has this happened here yet? Right? 794 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,280 Because if it hasn't happened here yet, you might need to relocate. And 795 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,119 you want to not be scared to do things like that. Like at the 796 00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:51,559 end of this month, I know that I'm for no good reason at all 797 00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:53,239 other than to promote myself. I just bought myself a plane ticket of the 798 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,000 California for five days. Oh wow, out there network with people. Yeah 799 00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,559 yeah, get myself because like here's cool, but let me just get myself 800 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:04,159 out there. Yeah yeah. And and because of the era that we live 801 00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:06,639 in with the Internet, with social media and everything, you'll be able to 802 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,360 not only make those contacts, but it's easier than ever to keep up with 803 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,719 contacts that you've made. You know exactly, I'm not writing letters right exactly 804 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,400 exactly. It's it's not like you know, you're going out there and you 805 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,840 get somebody's business card and then you you maybe you'll try to call them someday 806 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,760 and hope that you can reach them. You know, it's it's all. 807 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,599 It's it's easier than it's ever been to maintain all of that. So so 808 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,400 that's great, that's great, good for you. And then as far as 809 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,480 now the songs that you have do you have are they part of an album 810 00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:36,719 or do you do you only release singles or I have one album that came 811 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,639 out with Hollyweird, Okay, ever since then, I don't so I call 812 00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:44,880 it more of a mixtape. I don't want to call anything I put out 813 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,920 an album. As an artist. You could set yourself back by doing that, 814 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,840 because if you're coming out with albums, you're giving labels reference points. 815 00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:00,400 If an album doesn't do like you're probably like, it's not to discourage anybody 816 00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:04,719 like you might, but you're probably not going to do like crazy numbers for 817 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,000 your first couple albums. But let's say you get a buzz and you have 818 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,679 those albums out. The label is going to look at your numbers for the 819 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:16,599 albums and value on that. They're not going to value you on like your 820 00:53:16,639 --> 00:53:20,920 potential. Yeah, they already have something they're based on. Ye, So 821 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,159 you could potentially cut yourself short of one hundreds of thousand dollars of dollars. 822 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:30,199 I put out singles and that's how I'm going to do it till I get 823 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,119 the attention of a label, and then they're gonna put out my album for 824 00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:36,960 me. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, you know, I grew up 825 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,039 in a time where it was like, you know, the formula was, 826 00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:42,920 you put out a you have an album coming out, you put out a 827 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,199 single a little bit ahead of the album, and then the second single comes 828 00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:49,039 out after the album's already out. And of course now we live in a 829 00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,079 time where you have so many different ways you can do it. You have 830 00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:53,519 so many options. Attention span is so short too. Yeah, So like 831 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,320 if you're for something like an album, it's again not to discourage artists, 832 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,760 but we also have to be realistic with our there's not the attention span for 833 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,920 that anymore. If you focus yourself on a bunch of good singles, once 834 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,199 you get signed, then the album will come. You'll have your time to 835 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,599 do that, but until then you're working on grabbing attention. And in a 836 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,679 society where we have reels and shorts, it's not gonna work with an EP 837 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,400 or an LP right, it's just the humble fact of it. Yeah, 838 00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:24,280 exactly exactly do you have Have you gotten into the merchandising aspect of everything? 839 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,480 Do you have merch that you sell it, shows and everything? Or I 840 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,800 started a merch design but I haven't put it out yet. I'm thinking so 841 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,480 starting June, I'm gonna go on a ten week run where I'm dropping a 842 00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:39,440 single every week. Oh cool. It's something that I picked up from an 843 00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:44,280 artist, Nipsey Hustle rest in Peace, and I want to try to do 844 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,360 that too, and like after I release the ten singles, focus on like 845 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,599 the social media and like boosting it up that way. Yeah, but that's 846 00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,480 when I'm gonna come out with merchandise once I have those signals coming out, 847 00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:57,480 but I have the designs and everything ready, Cool, cool, excellent. 848 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,360 The time goes so quick. We are all already approaching the top of the 849 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,320 hour, and we will play we will play one more of your What was 850 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,760 the other one I wanted to play? I think it was uh, we 851 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:14,360 played visions. Oh it was oh fourth and goal, oh, which I 852 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,440 made a radio edit to that, and I think, is this You've got 853 00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:22,440 a really cool video for that? Yeah? Yeah, so that video is 854 00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:27,599 amazing because the same people that shot Joiner Lucas and like were a part of 855 00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:30,480 his come up or oh shot that video for me. Oh cool? So 856 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:36,599 I think it's our projects to studios, Okay, so shout out to them. 857 00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:39,000 They shot that video for me and I got to work with the model 858 00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:43,159 in that Erica, and we were able to create something great, which is 859 00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:45,599 awesome. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a great track. And before 860 00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:49,199 we do that, though, before we let you go, what should people 861 00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,320 know about where to find you online? How to keep up with everything that 862 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:57,119 you're doing bars Instagram and TikTok. It's hoped the rap on Facebook is gonna 863 00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:00,480 be Hope the Rapper on all platform forms as far as music goes, like 864 00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:04,119 major platforms, you won't find me on the smaller ones. But if you're 865 00:56:04,159 --> 00:56:08,000 talking about iTunes, Spotify, Pandora, anything like that title, you could 866 00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:12,920 find me under Hope the Rapper and yep, that's where you can find me. 867 00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,440 Hey, where does the name come from? By the way, Hope 868 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,960 the Rapper? So I wanted it to be originally Hope And I don't know, 869 00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:22,400 it's just something that suck to me when I thought of myself and like 870 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,920 what I wanted to like portray as a message. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 871 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,920 no, I dig it and you know and it fits you. You 872 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,440 know your music is very positive. Thank you, Yeah cool, I Hope 873 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,400 the Rapper, thank you so much. This has been your shit. This 874 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,280 has been absolutely wonderful. I'm really glad you got in touch. And when 875 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,280 you when you do the ten singles there, you know, we'll we'll play 876 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,960 those here if you if you want, yeah, please do by all means 877 00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:47,800 all right, so we will. We'll finish the segment with this. This 878 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,280 is a fourth and goal and this is Hope the Rapper. Check this out. 879 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,320 Getting money every day been the option. I cant fly every way like 880 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:12,880 a mucked and getting I'm a face that I'm not him. We, the 881 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,159 ones in the back, get it up. And getting money every day been 882 00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:22,320 the option. I get fly every way like a muck and getting I'm a 883 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,440 face that I'm not me. The ones in the back get it up. 884 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:30,719 And I was out hustling, trying to turn the pain into nothing. That's 885 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,800 some money talking. We don't entertain discussion forging, not my brains, not 886 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,239 laid on percussion. Now she ignin't even talks deduction of this off. Tell 887 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,840 me how inhost a function. Let's get down the business. Ain't no need 888 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,679 for introductions, any instrumental. I could give you the instructions. Long time 889 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,559 coming, y'all, don't really push my butt. Witness and volcanoes in eruption. 890 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,039 If you want to smoke, we could crack them like some Dustion said 891 00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:00,440 the world was cold, so she never knew what love is. For every 892 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:07,639 reference, man, I really swear to gloves. It's crunched out at this 893 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,480 point. This point fourth an interest for everybody, for everybody. I want 894 00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:17,000 to season. Getting money every day been the option. I get fly every 895 00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:22,360 way like a monck t and bracket and time a face that I'm not tim 896 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,480 me. The ones in the back, get it pop and stop getting money 897 00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:30,000 every day been the option. I get fly every way like a mounked and 898 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,920 brokeet and time a face that I'm not me the ones in the back, 899 00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:40,079 get it pop, and I rope this while thinking about the old kay and 900 00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:45,199 how money could turn us into a cold pay way whatever to make the broke 901 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:51,599 pay me never forever. She's staying no name for then, it just kind 902 00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,440 of smoothing different. Usually they had a reason, not they're using payments. 903 00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:59,880 Unfortunately that's and never did they never tell us I'm suppake of being fly, 904 00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:02,199 I mother by propellers. I'm getting greens, but they feel with it. 905 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,440 I think they're jealous over sell us. Eat the change, and I know 906 00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:09,039 it's nature. Seeing the man flip his ways like he was in a paper 907 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:14,679 hold. This money in my face is a motivator. Mo hatus with success. 908 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,360 Let's talk about it. Hit a beef next with a draw, chalk 909 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,320 around it, reading docks in your nose. But I'm never clowning. Told 910 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,760 him couldn't find a floor with a water fountain.