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Yeah, I mean well, I mean the Age of Transitions dot com
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so if any anything that I have will be linked to at the Age of
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quick apologies for people listening on the live stream. We did go late today
to Aaron's show, but we'll we'll we'll have pretty much a full show here
one way or another. And I'm gonna shut up real quick because I'm gonna
get off of this, Mike. But but the thing is, we went
to If you're hearing the podcast, you don't care, it doesn't matter.
But if you're listening live, right, we did go to air rather late,
so you might find some time dilation here where Aaron could indeed go over
the hour as he normally doesn't, but he could tonight. It's up to
him. Uncle could be longer. We don't know. It's live, so
you know, effort, we'll do it live, as Bill O'Reilly might say,
And that's where we're at. So my apologies to you though for making
you wait. I was doing a brand new show and time got away from
me there. I was trying to complete it and make it a fully rounded
affair. And now you have a lead in on Sundays from nine to ten
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is not the Ocelly Effect and indeed features missus Oh as a co host to
me on that show, and it is decidedly different from the normal Ocelly effect
or as per usual, any other show on the network. So I know
you didn't know about it because I didn't really release any details to anybody about
it. Wanted to let people know in case they tuned in to hear Aaron
and went where the hell's Aaron is he off? This week? Some people
might have tuned away already and not realized that Aaron is live, and it's
my fault, so apologies, brother, I'm sorry. Aaron, don't get
mad at me. I hope that Sam doesn't end up in a crevice on
you or something. We don't want any of those problems. You and I
have worked together now for what seven eight years, and it's been fun.
It's been great. I'm not ending it anytime soon, of course, either
one of us could, but I just want to let people know I didn't
intentionally Snowbarron or keep them off air or whatever. Here we are. We're
live, and I thank you for being patient and helpful to me. Aaron.
It's been a pleasure all this time working with you, not torturous even
for a moment, and I love it. I love being associated with you,
your great book, your work, and this continued string of performance art
which is Aaron's creations, whether it's music, TV, shows, radio,
etc. I'm just so pleased to be part of that Franz universe, so
to speak. Anyway, thanks so much, and now I'll shut up and
let you get back to it. But I want to make sure all the
plugs were there and appreciate you letting people know about the the Ocelli dot Com
stuff. Of course, we can always use your help. I just recently
bounced the phone bill for our phone lines again, so you know we do
have phones though they are operational tonight, but we're on borrowed time because yeah,
I don't have it this week. But no worries. We're gonna take
care of that and we're gonna keep things running as long as I'm breathing and
sitting upright, all right, Aaron, back to you, Well, that's
a bummer about the phones. But the Sunday Sloper, the new show before
that, this one before the age of transitions on Sunday Night, So Cheli
dot Com could be the Sunday Sloper. That's cool. It's I like to
hear about that new show. That's cool. And I'll just say that,
yeah, I'm I have been and continue to be very happy to be at
the Ocelli Radio Network here. So the feeling is mutual, Chuck. I'm
honestly like, network wise, I can't think of a network I would really
want to be on other than this one. Like I look at some many
of them and I don't know. I just I don't think I could do
it. And I mean the good thing is, I don't know if any
other network would really want that mean at this point anyway. But you know,
just as a commentary there, it's weird, right because a lot of
other places that you go, you got to get in line either with their
product or their political brand, right because they might have featured products, so
you got to promote their stuff and that's just part of being there, or
you're selling their constant you know, need for money, money bombs, not
like us just asking once in a while, can you make a donation.
But I mean, look, if you don't do this, we won't be
on the air next week, and we need so much money for this for
that and right now and right now and right now, come on, give
us, give us, give us, and they press you, and they
make the host press you. I don't do that. Or they push a
product ad nauseum, or they push a line of products ad nauseum because it's
a and butter and they bring you into that as a host. And oh,
by the way, watch what you say, because even though almost all
of these independent networks say that they're about, you know, freedom of speech
and we want to support your right to be different, you can be different,
but you've got to be are kind of different. You know. It's
sort of like the goth kids in South Park, right where they're like,
hey man, how do I become like, you know, a rebel outside
of society and a goth kid like you. Well, in order to be
a nonconformist, what you got to do is drink a lot of coffee,
smoked cigarettes, and dressed like us. And it was like, oh,
so I gotta adopt your lifestyle, your look and everything else. And then
that makes me a non conformist. In case somebody doesn't understand the term conformist,
it sounds like you're conforming to a pattern. Yeah, it's funny because
it's like, be a rebel. Don't rebel against us, but be a
rebel. Don't hold an opposing political view, don't look at a news story
any differently. You know, some networks that used to be patriot and freedom
based and everything else are now all Trump train all the time. Uh,
and that's all they are. And other places are trying to sell you,
you know, they're they're sticky, licky, bicky, uh CBD paste product
or whatever it is. And that's all it is to it, right,
you gotta gotta buy our paste powder and our CBD and our hemp and our
our Patriot brands supplies and yeah, and that's what they're about there. They're
they're they're am way with a radio show. They're they're turning, churning stuff
out because they're on board with one political idealism. Uh, you've got to
be libertarian or get lost. You've got to be this or get lost.
You've got to be consistently on this side of the equation or get lost.
Yeah. None of that goes on here, which is why we're a little
odd. I mean, I don't think I've ever told you, you know,
Aaron, you can't cover this, Aaron, don't talk to this person.
Aaron. No, I won't do that, you know. So it's
funny because despite we your odd complaints and things. Sometimes and I talked to
Pierce Redman about this recently, there's no issue of freedom of speech when you're
working with me, you do what you want. I might comment, i
might tell you my thoughts, but I'm not telling you what you can or
cannot do, and not even suggesting it like some people did at certain networks,
Like you know, I'm not telling you what to say. Immediately when
they lead with that, it's like, hmm, okay, I'm not telling
you what to say, but here's what I think. Here's what I think
you should say. But I'm not telling you what's set you know, like,
let's throw just enough mud in that water so you're not supposed to drink
it, but I'm leaving you all that the only thing you have as a
choice to drink. So mix your kool aid with that muddy water or don't
show up next week. And that's the way it is. Whether they pay
you or don't, or make you part of their money making enterprise one way
or another, it's irrelevant. Either get on board or don't, and you
have to march in formation. So I love that you're bringing that up.
And I'm sure this is not even the topic of tonight's show, but I
just figured it was worth mentioning, And again, thanks so much. So
let's move on from that and get onto what else is in your mind this
evening, Aaron, because I love this and people can call in. Did
you mention the call in number yet? I don't think so. No,
and please use it or lose it. I suppose three seven five zero six,
right? I mean I hope that the call I could exist for because
I was actually gonna have a guest that was going to call it next week,
maybe on the Upclose show. So is the line gonna survive? Chick?
I will look one way or another. If somebody helps me, that'll
be great, and if they don't, I'll still figure it out somehow.
I'll pay for it by next week. But as of right now, my
payment bounced and they're giving me the whole. Look, we're giving you a
little grace period here for a couple of days, but you need to pay
this so I'll take care of it. But it helps when people help,
is all I'm saying. And look, you can do that by making a
contribution, uh, you know, et cetera. And it's not even that
much money. I mean really, honestly, as I speak, if I
had ten more dollars, I got it covered. But that's that's what these
kind of shortages are I mean, I run on a razor thin margin a
lot of times with many things, and this is not the first time this
has happened. But tonight the phones are working and you can call in and
Aaron decides how he wants to handle those calls. So I'll just give out
the number and hand it back to you, Aaron, now that you've had
a sufficient break and breathing room. Three one nine five two seven five zero
one six is the network's number and is still operational at this moment. Three
one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call,
or you can reach out to me get on my friends list if you're
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you to the list if you make the request, even during the show,
but I won't promise to keep you there if you know you're annoying. So
Charles dotocelly, reach out to me on Skype and you can call in for
free, especially international listeners. This is a good idea because even though it
usually doesn't cost an American based person to make a call anywhere in America anymore,
three one nine five two seven five zero one six might cost your money
if you're on a different continent. So yeah, you can reach out to
us by a Skype and I do have international numbers. If you have special
requests and you just have to dial in let me know. I'll send you
the specific international number, but I have like twenty of them, so I
don't publish them, so it's not to confuse anybody. But there are other
ways to get in on the show. Those are the preparred methods three one
nine five two seven five zero one six or Charles dot Ocelli on Skype.
If you send me a message on Skype, I will call you into the
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one nine five two seven five zero one six No to Aaron Bronze in the
Age of Transitions. Yeah, yeah, we're here. It's a call on
in every Sunday night and the call in the number live again. Yeah,
I again. The o'chelly Radio network is gosh, it's not many of us
now, but it's it's definitely always been sort of misfit among misfits place which
is the only place I even come close to fitting in anyway, that's my
personal history as I'm kind of always been that way myself, right, And
there will be more in twenty twenty four, just as a warning. But
anyway, oh good, well, that's good, okay. I'm glad to
hear that and look forward to seeing who might join us. Not going to
do any development in between now and Dallas, Texas, because I got that
big trip coming up, and that's going to be the ten years. You
know, if you're in Texas, you want to go to Texas, you
want to be at the JFK conference. Here's my final plug you can meet
and greet myself, be Pete, and a couple other people that are involved
in the network, because we're going to celebrate ten years of the o'celly effect
and thus le simultaneously sixty years since the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
So during that weekend, during that conference from the sixteenth to the nineteenth in
Dallas, Texas, I'll definitely be there, And if you want to be
and you want to meet up with us, be Pete, myself, nature
Boy, threatening to go other names. You would know if you're a listener
to the network. I've asked Aaron if he wants to go. I don't
know if he will, but there may be a few other surprises there.
Mike Swanson is definitely going to be there. Larry Hancock, see some constant
guests that have been on my show, stuff like that, Creative Accidents has
told me he's going to stop by, so I'll finally get to see him.
Pace to pace, Jimmy James is a possibility. A couple other people
could be there, and we're gonna have a special breakout room for the o'celly
network at the conference, so all that is going on, and just want
to drop it in there anyways. Now, even though I said it before,
I'm really done. Go ahead there. Yes, yeah, I mean
that sounds like an awesome event. It's something that I wish I could make
it too, but I it's looking like I'm not going to be able to
make it. I wish I would. I wish I could, but I
don't think I'm gonna be there. It's, uh, that's one of those
things. But it's it's unfortunate because I'm sure if we'd love to go to
it. However, again, I'm glad to be on the network because it's
it's a good place. It's a good place to be, and I it's
hard to find places to go. And I don't really mind so much not
really fitting in. It's just sort of the way things are. And when
I look at what it takes to fit in, I realize I don't want
really interested in that. So I mean, I can't really be bothered by
not fitting in. So here we are. Here, we are misfiting once
again, and back the same old story. I end up surrounded by a
bunch of weirdos and a weirdos scene, and I'm the oddball amongst them that
just can't get along, or doesn't know what to say, or just gets
disgusted by the whole scene and just wants to leave. It happens every time,
and perhaps it's a character faw on me. Sometimes perhaps it's it's a
good thing. I think mostly it's a good thing to be honest, I
mean not to I usually don't think a whole lot of myself, but actually
I mean giving myself some credit that I think that's actually overall, I can't
see doing things another way. And also, my life has been an oddball
one filled with unusual choices, to say the least, ones that I don't
think, I want to say, not many other people to make I want
to say not really. Any other people probably would have made the sorts of
decisions that I've made along the way. And you know, some people look
back on I feel like, oh I regret this, or why'd I do
it that way? And if I would have done this, it would have
been better. So whenever I find myself in that position looking back on things,
I just go, well, yeah, I did some weird stuff,
and if I would have taken like, you know, the more sort of
normal position, or if I would have done something that would have gotten me
more so to speak out of this or that, I don't think it would
have been better. Actually, I think by doing the oddball choices and and
going into different directions, it's actually worked out quite well sort of and and
and amazingly, I'm in a pretty good position overall. But my life so
to speak, just you know, getting along, making making ends meet and
whatnot, and it's working out much better than most I think, So I
really can't complain to that. There are setbacks, for sure, but they're
minor in comparison to I want to say, most people. So I do
realize that I have a lot of memories of things. When I think about
it, I'm like, oh man, I've actually done a lot of stuff.
Like I'm getting to that point where I'm old enough, I'm thinking back
about things. I'm like, boy, I have done quite a few things,
amn't I. It's it's like it's easy to forget what you've done and
then you sit back any kind of thing, Okay, well, okay,
I did this, I did that, And again, like for me,
it's looking back at the oddball chress and like, okay, I actually did
this thing. And sometimes really I could count you probably count on one hand
the amount of people that probably did or that certainly would have done things in
my situation and again strange unusual sorts of things. But at the same time,
I think I do a pretty good job of portraying an average person in
my day to day life. So I'm pretty good at making that, making
that work somehow. So I've got a lot going for me. I am
not complaining. Things are pretty cool. And still doing this show after all
these years. That is something a little different. It's not typical to see
people in this venue, in this making material such as I do, the
sort of material that I make that made people do it for an extended period
of time. First of all, that's the case. Most people kind of
come and they go, which is completely understandable. And there are have been
times where I have asked myself, well, should I have would have been
better off if I would have been in that group, But then I come
back to the answer, No, I think this has been the actual right
choice, the one that again few people would have made. If you that
very few people have made, and the exact way I've done it. I
know that I've I've you know, walked my own road, and you know,
I have my own show, and I certainly present things in a unique
way. And what it is that I feel as important in the conversations I
like to have and just the topics I know are unique and unusual and and
yeah, just unique to I'm doing something unique, and so that's good.
And looking back and learning what I have from all out of this, I
think is actually incredibly valuable. And I don't believe there are many people to
have come along the way and really realize the value of what you can get
out of not succeeding in the generic sense of the term, like okay,
say you have a podcast, radio show. Success would be measured on any
same scale by numbers of your audience numbers. What's your reach out, what's
your audience? How big is it and how many people are listening? That's
one thing, but also you know, like revenue that you're bringing in.
Okay, have you been able to make this into a living right? You
have you turned? Have you pulled a this you know interest that you have
in this hobby, so to speak, into a career. I have not.
This is not a career for me. I mean, I sell the
books, I bring you money through the Patreon and the shirts and the little
stuff here and there, and I you know, I keep the I keep
the operation going with the money that comes in, but by no means my
living off of it. I never have. I have a day job.
So I you could look at that, and you look at the numbers,
right if I'm playing the numbers game, I could I if I was purely
doing a numbers game. I mean, I'm an abject failure. I have
lost. You know, breaking even is not succeeding. You are now homeless,
You're useless. Just stop doing what you're doing, right, I failed.
If that's the template that I'm using, which it isn't because again,
I'm a freak of nature and I don't care about a lot of things that
most people care about. Now, do I want to be to live and
sustain myself and have income. Yes, As I mentioned before, day job
money coming in. I'm living, I'm making my way. I'm okay,
I'm good. Everything's fine. Am I doing it on this No? Does
that bother me? No, because I actually have a lot of freedom.
Again, I'm on a network where I can say what I want to say,
I can do what I want to do. Chuck doesn't bother me.
He doesn't have an agenda for me to subscribe to. I think it's taken
for granted. A lot of people on the other side, not behind the
microphone like I am, but sitting in front a pair of speakers. I
think it's honestly, I want to try to like help the people in that
position, like the audience, the consumer of media, and just being informative
because and doing so from my position, because I've been doing this for a
while and I've seen enough to see what the problems are, and yes there
are Chuck was hitting at this earlier. There's networks that are problematic because honestly,
they're just lying to you. They'll say like, yeah, this is
where freedom of speech rains. This is where we're blasting against the mainstream media
and all their lives. This is where you get the truth. You know,
that's the general tagline, right, You've heard it a million times,
You've seen it everywhere. Everybody says the same general thing. They're telling you
the truth. The mainstream isn't okay, we get that idea. I can
tell you that a lot. Not every single network, but would I would
venture to say most have some form of agenda, and we were hitting at
that earlier. Sometimes it's it's as shrewd and benign as they want to make
money and they're playing the numbers game and they're like, Okay, we got
to find advertisers or this is we're bringing revenue on this, we're selling our
own products. We got to figure out way to do that. And they're
doing that and they've succeeded in doing that, and they'll just you know,
to support the bottom line. They just make material that does that and they
don't really care either way what they're saying. They're just looking up again,
they're using the analytics tools like, okay, what is it the analytics telling
me everybody wants to hear they want to hear this. Okay, fine,
we'll make sure it's about that a lot of people are doing that. Is
that is that telling lies? Is that is that willfully misleading the people?
Or is that just being a jerk? You know? Is that just being
somebody? Just like, I mean, how do you judge that? You
know, they're telling you like they're telling you that they're like these crusaders for
truth. But what they're doing is they're just like compiling a bunch of stuff
for clicks and for views, for making money, just like everybody else is
doing. What comes of that? What good comes of that? What?
Uh? And then once you start if you start labeling that sort of material
with like words like truth and things like that, to me personally, I
find that repugnant because it's just come on, don't don't do that. Just
like put out your your material and don't start labeling yourself as like the most
benevolent thing. Uh, we're gonna find anywhere. Just just bake your stuff
and shut up after that, you know. But that's that's all part of
their little game, Like they gotta be the angels, you know, they
gotta be they have to be the good guys, right. So, and
it's been interesting. I've I've made a comment before about the Truth movement and
there's that word truth again, which has been dragged through the mud. I
mean, ever since the word truth was made, it's it's been people been
doing disservice to it. So, you know, nothing new obviously, but
nonetheless people using it, and then it's it's just a shame, right And
the Truth Movement. Tomorrow is nine to eleven. September eleventh is tomorrow,
so it's the anniversary of nine to eleven, two thousand and one. We
all know. And that was an event that got me involved in this arena.
The nine to eleven Truth Movement was something I was a part of.
I've been to New York City on an anniversary. I'm sure to remember what
year that was. I struggled to recall the exact year, but it was
an anniversary year i went there. So I've done that, I've done all
that stuff. But yeah, it's it's interesting that very much, you know,
the media sphere kind of glombed onto that. And and I'm not going
to critique the movement itself or any individual people within it, because certainly it
has its virtues, and it certainly has people doing the right thing and and
and the idea behind it is something good. Trying to figure out what's happening
in that particular situation is definitely a good idea. However, the media again
glombing onto that and then building campaigns of their own around it is where,
you know, sometimes things get into trouble and you see a lot of people
over the years, I mean, time really does a lot, and I
think it tells you. I mean, in the end, you know the
truth about any given person, or you should be able to certain individuals have
proven themselves like oh okay, this is what you've been doing all the time,
or this is who you are, right, I don't have but anyway,
but before I'm not gonna point to any specific people right now, but
the I always found it fascinating that the nine to eleven Truth movement would make
these like nine to eleven Truth t shirts, and almost always it was a
black T shirt with white type on it, so it's a black and white
shirt, mostly black. And then really the color of the movement was like,
you know, we were these black shirts right, some black being the
color of in this case, a virtuous movement for truth. Right. I
always found a kind of fascinating. And you could say that this gets into
like being very superficial too. It's like, well, white isn't always good,
black isn't always bad, and you know it's stupid to like get into
that and blah blah blah. But I always kind of found it fascinating.
But the color black was used, and that over time, certainly people have
the have proven that, you know, the dark side, so to speak,
is something that they're that they're on, honestly on the people. And
again people just looking up for themselves, you know, bringing in donation money,
giving it to themselves, just matching onto anything, and all sorts of
stupidity involved with the truth movement, like just the idea of getting attention for
at tensions sake became a big thing and a big achilles heel of that movement.
Early on, it always made me very uncomfortable all those like what were
they the confrontation videos where it's like you, you know, name the famous
politician or head of the Federal Reserve or or some former presidential somebody's former like
secretary of state or whatever, like you name the the important political person or
even business person, what do you do. You confront them with a camera
where they're doing an event. You do it on the streets and you just
go, oh did nine eleven and you just like yell stuff like these nine
to eleven truth talking points at them, and they just go and maybe they
respond to you, or maybe they just keep walking, and then you post
the video to YouTube and you act like it's some kind of victory. Meanwhile,
they were probably like one hundred other things that you could have confronted that
particular person on that would be more relevant to them and the actual horrible things
that they have done in the past, because there's all sorts of people that
they have confronted, and and they just ask him something like do you know
about World Trade Center Building seven? It's like, why are you asking this
guy? Why why are we asking, like Nuke Gingrich about World Trades Center
Building seven? You know, why aren't we asking him about his Age of
Transitions essay that he wrote in the year two thousand and specifics from that which
are very fascinating and they have to do with transhumanism. Of course, transhumanism
is in Vogue in the alternative Freedom Fighter now too, because it's, you
know, part of this whole thing, and people are just immediately up to
speed on the entire topic and they know everything about it, So I should
probably just stop talking about because they're going to tell you everything you need to
know. It's gonna just fit right in with whatever it is they were already
saying anyway. So so that's exciting. That's good to see people talking about
it, And personally, for me, I am happy to be on the
sidelines they can have from the spotlight. That's good. I'll keep having my
small audience and doing what it is I do, and I'll just point things
out from here on the side, and we'll see what happens along the way.
And I'm sure I'll get a few things wrong, but it's at least
comforting for me to know that it's fairly easy at this point to see who
the complete frauds are. Just up they're screaming away. Many times you can
tell what their agenda is. A lot of times you can't, and you
don't know who their backers are, or who's like feeding them information, or
who's funding them or or or pushing them forward or just riling them up.
Honestly, some people are just excited to be in the spotlight, you know,
like people like to be on TV, people like to have big,
fancy YouTube channels and things like that. So sometimes it's a lot of times
just a matter of that, honestly. So I am in a privileged position.
I have seen quite a few things over the years. I have heard
quite a few things over the years. I have we come to realize a
lot of good, useful information and taking it all in, it's it's it's
sometimes quite easy to see how like these ridiculous narratives of theirs fall apart,
and yet at the same time you see the inertia that these narratives have and
how they're just pressing forward and the influence it's gaining in this strange information sphere
because attention. Attention is an asset, and it being loud and getting attention
does work for what it's worth. Now, the sad reality is that we're
all going to have to face the consequences of this fact that BS is incredibly
popular when it's sold correctly, and tons of people just glom onto it and
love it, and they joined the team. They're all in and they get.
Really, I mean, it's religious devotion, is what you see.
It's the creation of cults. It's not unlike that, and it works and
it's a bit pathetic. But you know, so what I mean, what
am I supposed to do? Like re engineer humanity? So it's better,
Like I'm i gonna re engineer everybody's brain instantaneously. It sounds like one of
these idiotic transhumanist projects, like, uh, you know, there's you got
herber varized predators. They're just gonna make h hawks stop eating rodents. Somehow
magically that's gonna happen. I'm gonna somehow root program everybody's brain that is believing
these horrible toxic ideologies. I'm just gonna instantaneously rewire their brains. And if
it takes using some sort of your technology to do that, may I'm doing
good. And you see now you see how somebody on the other side of
this thing, somebody maybe with the means to create high foluting technologies, would
get into a position where they think a whole lot of themselves and they believe
themselves to be benevolent and like, yeah, yeah, I can make ways
technologies. It does this, let's do that the world will be better.
So see, then I'm on that side of the equation. Don't worry.
I'm not. I don't have any ability to do any of that, and
if I did, I wouldn't want to. But again, I'm somebody who
makes choices that most people don't, and if I was more normal or whatever
it is, I probably would make the choice to do it. Okay,
I can change everybody's mind instantaneously. I got this button I can press.
I'm gonna do it because it's gonna make the world better, because I must
be right. How couldn't I be right? And so I would go ahead
and I would do that. But don't worry, I'm not and I won't.
I please don't thank me for that. It's quite potentially a possible an
indicator that I'm defective as a human, right And if so, I say
good, the world might say bad. But you know, the point I'm
trying to make here is the world says a lot of things. You know,
they're saying a lot of stuff out there. You might want to be
careful what you listen to or who you listen to, and what you believe.
That's kind of the point I want to keep hammering home. I guess
every week because I think it might be the most useful service I can provide
at this time. I think maybe, if nothing else, maybe these shows
are like publish public service announcements for what it's worth, just from one guy
and one guy's observation doing weird stuff his entire life. So throughout a life
of weird things, this is what I've come to think and to realize.
Take it from what's worth. You don't have to listen to me because it's
I mean again, I don't. Ultimately, I don't care if you listen
to me or not. I don't. I'm not always going to be right.
I can't be right. But I do know that there are a lot
of people that pretend, seem to pretend that they can do that and that
they do do that, and probably those people are the ones you have to
watch out more more than anything. Is that sort of thing, because one
has to wonder what the source of that confidence is exactly right, what is
it? And there's a lot of potential correct answers to that question. Any
given case, one of those is your answer, and you know, just
take it on a case by case basis, or we're not we're not painting
with a broad brush. Maybe it sounds like I am, but if I
am, I'm sorry. It does really come down to individuals, right,
Oddly enough, and sort of that's kind of an interesting thing that's popped up
in this movement, so to speak, is how do you advocate for the
freedom of the individual. How do you actuate yourself as an individual? How
do you attain liberty? Freedom? How do you live a free life where
you self actualize yourself? Right? A lot of that just sort of general
sentiment is there in the backgrounds as far as I can gather throughout these years.
It seems like that has been like kind of a big push. It's
like, how does the individual stand up to the corrupt system? Right?
How do you do it? How you stand up for yourself? How do
you be yourself? How do you protect yourself and those immediately around you?
How do you do that? And so it is that individuals have made their
choices. And if you are able to kind of look at any given source
of information, and I would I would say, try to be impartial,
right, be impartial about any given person or any given Outlet take take in
everything that that they're telling you. Taken what they what they got, whatever
their little messages, and pick everything apart. Check to see if there's holes
and what they're saying, Check to see if you know, there's contradictions.
I always going to contradict themselves a little. It's impossible not too. But
if it's glaring, if it's glaring, and if there's like these one hundred
eighty degree turns like all the time, if we're saying one thing and then
we do the complete opposite, you know, even a couple of years down
the line, you might want to ask questions about that because you see that
over these years, I've seen a ton of that now, just like the
complete one eighty of so many things that were at one time integral and now
we're just completely reversed course on these issues. And that's a huge thing for
me. That's made me go, Okay, what why why did we change
the script or what was the script right rewrite on this one case some point
when nine to eleven nine to eleven truth, this is good? I mean,
certainly this applies to that is Muslims right Islam just the general view that
we have here in the West of Islam. Now, it was popular in
nine to eleven. Truth circles a little over a decade ago to say,
like, look, the mainstream wants you to hate Muslims. They want to
want you to see them as these horrible enemies, when the Muslim Americans are
innocent. They're just people living here. And there were all sorts of cases
of just normal people who happen to be Muslims that were all sorts of horrible
things are happening to them in the wake of nine to eleven, just because
you know, people were associating them with the terrorist attacks simply because of their
religion, and that was wrong. I still believe that was incredibly wrong.
I think that's a horrible thing. But and at the time, the truth
movement as a whole seemed to go like, look, this is what the
mainstream wants you to do. They're dividing us. They want you to think
all Muslims are evil. It's ridiculous. Things seem to be a little different
today. I guess all Muslims are evil, and Islam is the unit enemy
and and and terrorism is like this horrible thing, and like just so that
is a fascinating one that I've watched over time. Well, the more mainstream
u right wing kind of take, the mainstream right wing take from say,
just after nine to eleven. We know what that was, which became the
mainstream take of everybody really by default. That's what seemed into the the the
alternative right from what I gather from what from the instances that I see over
and over again. Now that's that's what happens. So that's just one thing.
That's one thing relating specifically to nine to eleven that totally reversed other things.
I've pointed this out before, is you know, the idea of martial
law and if a police state, they'll they'll still they'll still bring up the
police state, but they'll also advocate for the police state if and advocate for
martial law if it's to keep you know, Donald Trump in power' is like,
oh, we got to keep Donald Trump and power, you should institute
martial law. He might have heard this idea and to that I heard that
stuff going on, I just go, what what in the world are you
talking about? And I mean it's it's obvious to see what's going on.
It's like they never cared in the beginning what they were talking about. They
didn't care if a police state got enacted. They didn't care if martial law
came down. They were acting like the government's gonna institute this tyranny, and
that they were standing up against government tyranny. Apparently the only thing they cared
cared about was the specifics of whoever's in control of that tyranny. And it
seems like they want to be the ones that are on the institutional side of
things. It's like, yeah, Marshall Law is a good idea. Now,
a police state, well, they would do a police state, but
they wouldn't call it that. They call it law and order. They give
it a real nice name. Like we're getting rid of crime in the streets.
There's all this crime everywhere, and you know it's a gotta throw everybody
in prison. Sorry, okay, we gotta be tough. What do you
want me to do to be weak and be weak like that guy over there
and have the city go to hell in a handbasket. No, No,
I'm tough. I'm a strong leader. Everybody's so tough. Everybody's so strong,
everybody's flexing their muscles. Everybody's a tough guy. Everybody likes to yell
and scream and act hard and drive military vehicles that are armored and where they're
military helmets to these events that are for free speech air quotes. We're here
advocating free speech. We're wearing like we're wearing military tactical gear to this political
demonstration that we're here because we're defending free speech. We're real excited to fight
the other guys on the other side of the issue. We really enjoy that.
But that's just kind of like a happy accident that we get to fight
and in some cases kill people from the other side of the political line that
we've drawn in the sand. Yeah, those people had to die because they're
dumb and they don't agree with us. They don't they're against free speech,
right, they don't want free speech we do. We want the freedom to
throw everybody in prison, because that's freedom. Martial law is a good thing
if you use it the right way. You just got to be smart like
us. We figured out who all the evildoers in the entire world are.
We know that it's all the establishment. We know it's the deep state.
We know that the deep state is. We have the names. Oh,
we know them all. I Meanwhile, it's it's just all this vague nonsense.
They it's it's psychological projection at a ludicrous scale. Is really what it
is to a great extent. I mean, it really comes down to that.
This whole time, they were like threading and fussing about a government tyranny
that's coming down. And now, from what I gather, like, let's
let's just advocate for the right tyranny and the right guy in charge, and
let's call it something else. Let's call it America being great, or let's
call it you know, standing up for the you know, traditional values,
or some garbage like that, Like let's pretend like the country was something in
the past, which it wasn't ever actually in reality anyway, but we want
to believe it was, so therefore it is. And what the mind believes
belief is a powerful thing. Something can be utter garbage, be the exact
opposite of truth, but not matter. If everybody believes the opposite of truth
and they build a world based on those ulterior motives not being true, but
they absolutely believe it is true, what happens. I don't know, why
don't we just go ahead and find out. It looks like a lot of
people are really excited to do that. Well, and I say, enjoy
yourselves, have your world. Take it. That's fine. Make the odd
ball choice, as I always have to kind of take a step back and
say, you know what, if that's what you want, if you think
you're gonna get what, if you think you're gonna really get something out of
this, just go ahead and test that theory out. Okay. I'll be
here observing the whole thing. Whether I make it through to the other side,
I don't know. Maybe you might find I get a bit annoying after
a while, you have to get rid of me. If so, if
it gets if it gets that point, then I'll say good because I don't
want to. I have a pretty good inkling where your experiment's going to go.
So you take it and just ruin everything and have fun doing it.
Because I'm not going to do it with you. I'll choose the other option.
If you catch my drift and I'm more than happy to do that,
and I will I will do that, then that's I mean, I made
that decision long ago and I'm sticking to it, And so that's my game
plan. My game plan isn't anything specific. You see that is that interesting?
Am I a fool for not making specific goals. The world has told
me I'm an idiot and baby I should listen to them sometimes, but usually
I don't really listen and I don't really care. Again, character flaw of
me. That's why I'm doing this. What I'm doing now is because I
have that character flaw. I don't care. I do not care what you
say. I don't care what you're doing. I'm basing my projections of the
future on all of the evidence I've been able to gather, and things don't
look from my point of view. But you think it's awesome, so you
just go with it. Just go with it, That's what I'll say.
So I will be here. The age of transitions will continue as a show.
Sometimes I'll call it specific people and tell you how ridiculous and just how
outright liars they are, and how they're the was it the Pied Piper is
at it again? Sometimes I'll do that, but more often than not,
I won't name names. I honestly, I feel like people should be able
to figure that out for themselves. But where it really has to be done,
I will, but I'll keep that to a minimum. To be honest,
I should I have not learned by now Again, but I consider myself
in a privileged position. I'll come back to that point. I do think
that privileged position, and that I've seen enough, I've done enough. I've
been part of this scene for long enough that I know a lot of the
ins and outs, and overall it's an utter dump. That's my overall take.
Now, you go out there and you do what you want. You
listen to what you want, you take in what you want, you make
what you want to people on the same on the side of the microphone like
me, I'm for freedom of speech. I'll bet at some point you'll say
I'm not. But hey, you go and you say what you want tode
that microphone, because with each passing word, the truth becomes more apparent than
me. I don't know how many other people have gotten the point yet,
but I hear you loud and clear. So keep talking, keep talking.
I'll be here listening, because honestly, I like listening more than I like
talking. So it's kind of ironic that I have a show where I have
to talk. But here we are anyway. I will continue listening and gathering
the required evidence for but maybe amount to nothing in the end, But I'm
gathering information nonetheless, because that's what I do. We'll see what comes of
it. We'll see. I'm not too I'm honestly, I'm not worried at
all. I'm I am not worried things. Things will work out as they
do. I don't need to be anybody's dictator. I don't not interested in
it. But maybe I had to be, maybe i'd be a little better
off, that's what they're telling me. I don't know whatever, who cares,
it doesn't really matter. But we're coming up on the end of the
show. We're coming near and I think I actually made it to an hour's
amount of time here right, ended up saying a lot more than I believed
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so cool? Yes? Been news? Did the New York Giant slors?
You kicked out of the pool. I'm kicking out of my work NFL pool
thing? Yeah, say would have one. I would have been right there.
But it's over for this week. There's always next week, Uncle.
I came close. I did remarkable good. If you listen to me for
a little bit on that first game, you might have been in the money.
Yes, it's true. It's true. If I have a get,
if I get what's his name on this line? He don't even can we
tell you? Yeah? I I Uncle's talking about how I picked Kansas City
Chiefs to win over Detroit Lions. My gut actually told me that the Lions
would win, but I was like, I went with the safe bat Kansas
City, and I was horrible, though I should. If I would have
done that, I'd still be in the running speed uncle, But I got
that one up. What can I say? I did, however, picked
the La Rams to beat the Seahawks and nobody else did. Yeah, that's
that's one. I feel vindicated there. Yeah, they don't. They tell
you don't need Cooper Cup even though he was, they still want it and
they still want it, so they did his job. Amazing performance by the
La Rams today. I'm very happy to see that they're at least decent this
year. Now, coming up next drink against San Francisco, I think it's
gonna be a different story. I plan maybe maybe or maybe not top pens.
We have to look at them. I want them to win, but
honestly, I doubt that they will. San Francisco is very good. But
it's okay, it's okay. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'll be shocked
if they're doing I would be even by I do pick them. If I
don't pick them, and pick the forty nineties, because I'm going five with
him and this coming wait and and just for the heck of it, say
that and I wind up losing, that's fine too. I might I might
think about that, maybe on that one, because hey, I mean yeah,
it's exciting. I mean, the first week of National Football League play.
It's back. We're just having fun with it, you know, we're
enjoying ourselves. Were taken into games. We're trying the work polls for what
it swears. You know, we're just He comes in and around paper signing,
hey, look at this, look at this. Come to me.
Everybody good at this food through the process and yeah, dang, this is
fun. You had some pretty good opinions on a few of them. I
gotta say, uncle, you're pretty good one once and Jacksonville, yeah,
and on people gave me the cheat nice at and on my bikes to pick
picks, and oh uncle, I'm in the ochelly dot com chat room right
now. I'm seeing that Ray down in Australia had the beer that we had
last week. He had bit Burger and he reviewed it himself. Do you
I would hear how he reviewed that beer, the one that we had,
the one from Germany we drank on last last week's show. Yeah, oh
he drank it. Yeah. He gave it a seven out of ten?
Man, is that right? Eight? This guy did it the first time,
ten out of ten, one of one out of how many times?
You feel, ah, do you fellow got dancing right? I've got some
new really idiotic graphics I'm playing around with with on calls, so if it
don't mind me, I'm just adding in some crazy Actually, these graphics would
be really good for a DJ show to play around with. Like I'm kind
of like getting them set, and if I do like interesting cross fades,
I can see like if I were to fade in this image, which is
the roof of the Integratron, and I work to do a nice little crossfade
with this weird little man that's dancing, I'm not sure who he is,
he's dancing, and you get quite the little crazy the psychedelic effect, pretty
wilder uncle, would that be really good with some cool music behind it playing.
I feel like I could really get grab someone's attention on Twitter or that.
But I know, maybe I don't know. But what what if instead
of that, we did a fade with and we put that Maybe we like
that image a little better they do that, or maybe we want a different
background. Maybe we like the outdoors of the desert. We weren't to go
from indoors of the integratron to outdoors. We do a little cross fade dert.
Oh, I know that's how I feel about that. It's a beautiful,
beautiful specimen. Look at all of the branches. How many years did
it take to grow? And if you're not watching the live feed, this
probably doesn't make a lot of sense. It's just us babbling away. But
I'm playing around with the livestream graphics. Uncle, what do you think I
can see to approve or disapprove? That's okay, good enough, good enough.
We'll have to do taking a load off. Now you're feeling okay,
trying to get this down to me? Okay, okay, get it on
down, get down right it needs to be Okay. We're just the air,
uncle, We're just here making a show. Wow, here we are
on the show. And who have us? Anyone call on a telephone,
Yeah, call it in it in three seven five zero one six or skype
Charles daughter Cheli's and a message he'll bring you on. Oh uncle, why
don't we talk about the desert and our little trip out there this week?
That was kind of cool? Oh yeah, yeah, remember that we had
we had to go. We went funny, Me and him went funny.
We did, and she, of course was working at home yes, and
it was just we had cleaned up for the next guess, Yes, we
did. Things are going pretty well with all that is moving along. As
say that doesn't happen bad, We'll take it. They got they got some
booked this cleb months months this month. Yeah, yeah, we got books.
Yeah, boys, I get September booked. I don't know about October
yet, but it's something pretty good overall. But yeah, anyway, we
were out there and we we had a wildlife encounter. You want to talk
about that. Let's talk about that crazy thing we hand. We had a
I made a mistake on my video. First of all, your video?
What on Instagram? On my Instagram? What was the mistake we made?
Uh, she isn't scared of but it was the other thing. I've just
confused. But yeah, but what was the video? Because I think a
lot of people might not have seen the video access this tramp bops. Yeah,
stick chopped on the tree. We saw a desert lobster, didn't we
Yeah, it was like a lobster chopping kind of like that. Yeah,
and he was like kind of plain white white. I am seeing him that
size that thing before. Hu. But the I've seen the small ones but
not that tough. That size was absolutely it was a big desert lobster crawling
up a tree. I watered the tree. Ironically, the lobster didn't like
water up the tree. That's what got him out of it. I scared
him out mountain. We started seeing him. Then we saw it. Yeah.
It was actually yeah, so I mean so I I we have a
tree in the yard. I was watering it and as a spring. And
it was funny because as I was watering the ground as spring, I'm like,
I was just thinking about all the desert and almost how like by placing
water on the ground like I was doing with a hose, like, oh,
this is gonna like attract a lot of animals. It's like a big
change in the environment. Like me spring water all over the place. It's
gonna attract him to drink it, and it's gonna make him like move around
and stuff. I had that in my head. And then a little bit
after that, this very large scorpion climbs up the trunk of the tree.
I was like, oh my gosh, I thought. I was like whoa.
I was like, look at that thing. It's like this big,
pale colored scorpion. It was like five inches long, probably with its tail
curled, not even like outstretched. It was about that day at least fun
But the tail was cool, Like you said, but couldn't if that thing
came out, I would have thought that that tail would have been out of
the tree and just sitting there. Yeah. It had a large tail.
It had a large shell with a stinger on the end. Obviously it had
those claws. It was like a very light colored scorpion, kind of like
white tannish pale colored. It was. It was big. It was really
big. I was like, oh, whoa it was. It was really
cool because I I've seen one other scorpion out there before, but it was
a much much smaller maybe in a baby at the same kind of scorpion,
I don't know, but it was way smaller than this. Here is there
we go Uncle on telephone, not picking on who it is. Go ahead
and uh call you name? Oh the scorpion shrock? Do you luck or
her a game? Oh yeah. I was a tempted to put that on
the Instagram video, but I couldn't put the song and have uncle's audio at
the same time, So I was like, I want to see the regular
audio. I almost did that. Hey, Jimmy, I got some Hey,
wasn't I tell you we could go? Would? I said? What
did I say? I predicted one week I would be chewing something long.
I know what it is. He was right, he was right. But
such a kid, I know, doesn't listen. I didn't. I didn't.
I honestly, Jimmy, in my gut, I was like, you
know what, I think the Lions aren't gonna win. But then I decided
to go with Kansas City foolishly. If I known Kelsey would been out,
that would have been the straw that made me go, Okay, we're going
with the Lions. But still, oh sure, that's where everyone started kidding
on board. That's like, man, I knew I should have bet it
on this. Yeah, it would have been a good beat you have,
man, Yeah, you would have made out on that one. But uh,
oh, well, because we're happy that your team's doing good. That's
really good. At the first game was good, Yeah, that's pretty cool.
And then and then it goes Then then you were gonna say something that
I interrupted to begin with before I went out about the Lions. What was
it I was going to say about the other game? Picked our team Rams
the Vams, and I said, I picked them. Go with the Vams.
They'll be they'll beat Seattle, they will beat Seat, they will beat
Seattle. And what they do, they just them. I'm happy about that.
At the Lions play them next. I think we're gonna beat them too.
Honestly, you play the Vams. No, no, we played the
four No, no, we're play We're playing the Seahawks. Sweet. That's
right, that's right. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, you
guys playing the Seat. I'm saying it. Yeah, I'm just saying if
the Rams beat them, I'm kindtable will beat him. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Ye'll probably beat him. Don't matter where twelve million means nothing in that
standpoint. But so so then we, uh, he comes in needed my
help pick these things, so I'm going here. It's trying to figure out
the picking, and he took of course took his other team. But the
other team, uh, Los Angeles went Los Angeles Chargers over Miami. Of
course, I didn't know what was gonna happen my evens, but man,
something told me something interesting. At the end of that game. They are
coming back, coming on back, and he and they came back and one
team here I've got beat by him and people that were saying that they're gonna
be good this year. If two was good, they're gonna be there.
Oh yeah, we're talking about the Chargers and the Miami. Yeah. I
took the Chargers on that one. I know that's where you found fall.
You got found downfall on your first game. Yeah well, I mean it
was so close. You can't fault me for making that choice. They definitely
could have Tyreek Hill he foiled us. That's that hill man. He can
fly yea receivers. I was gone away with it if it weren't for that
darned Tyreek Hill and his meddling dog. Yeah. Yeah, but Scooby Doo
he had part of it too. I don't know if you saw him on
the side lines, but he was there for the Dolphins. Okay, Oh
no, man, I don't know. Oh yeah, well you're not.
You're not on the same bow length. Bro. I didn't see that one
coming. I know. Surprise, But so that's what that's boy. So
how are you feeling, Jimmy this whole thing. I'm all right, I'm
just sticking on this mask. Got stuffed though. Like the Detroit Lions,
we should be required to have a real lion there present yell, they hand
the lines man that. I don't know if Peter would be uh, they'd
be a little upset about that. I'm thinking other than that, I mean,
it's a cool idea. It's an interesting idea, but I don't if
the line did want to be there either. That's the issue of that.
This pre famous Oh yeah, who was that that? Remember the one that
used to be alert. Wow? Yeah I knew that. Yeah, I
knew that. Uncle celebrities impressive. Well, that cat's gone further than anyone
anyone else in town. Yeah. Yeah, they'd been a nickname for themselves.
So so what I like about his idea and this stuff. I sort
of enjoyed him bringing that, bringing it in because yeah, I was still
still cool fret work. Yeah, Uncle is getting involved and how enjoying those
things. Yeah it was. It was a good time. We hadn't even
had a lot of fun this week playing that, even though I didn't win,
but I came close enough. I was like, Oh that was exciting.
That was fun. Get all right, Get all right, first weekend?
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in there, uh face shifters talking about squirrel Nation, sul nation. That
almost sounds like an NFL fan based squirrel nation. That would be a cool
NFL team, The Squirrels maybe could be an expansion team. That is good
work, right work for a name. Well, I don't think anyone else's
covered called themselves no squirrels, the squirrels, why not? I mean it
works, right. A squirrel could be kind of tough, you know,
they're kind of scrappy little things and his boys been doing that could be a
cool team, something different, you know, don't men the sword nuts?
Oh yeah, yeah, you could go all sorts of I mean the goofballs
of the stadium could be like, yeah, the nut heads, and they
could wear an acorn on their head and act like cooks and you know,
like this is the nut Zone or you know something like that. Yeah,
I mean, come on, everybody, how do you not think of this
already? Get on at NFL some city that doesn't have a team. We're
giving you the idea. You may take it and run with it. Yea
though, now, bunchet of strings, this one in that same fiding.
Now, the big Monday night game is going to be very very interesting.
Yeah, it's Buffalo and New Year Jets. Yes, that is gonna be
wild. But I picked Buffalo, I know, but I still, for
some reason, I still want to be right because being right is so much
fun. We'll see, it's great. What do we have on listening show?
Uh? Well, you know what. I'm trying to get some guests
lined up. Actually, every Yeah, we should have one next week.
I've got a guy once to come on next week. So if I works
out, we should have a guest on here next week. So we should
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Well, it's they're gonna call in. They're gonna call into the show.
It's a call in guests. But yeah, actually we're hoping to work
on some in studio guests too, and for that I should get something equipment.
Who's judge? What was that? What was that little accidental button pushed
on my part? Sorry? Oh, shooting put what means shooting buttons?
It's a button. I didn't tell you button. You have a button to
press the button. I got a lot of buttons. I can make a
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U hit something and it played. So it's a mistake. It happens.
Well, Uncle, I think it could be a good thing because press a
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the line. I got another question for you. Or I was just browsing
in all these crazy crime podcasts and this one was about, I guess as
a professional wrestler called the Croatian Giant who was apparently murdered during aware of this?
Uh no, when when was he a wrestler? Was he in w
w E or what's all start? Yeah, I don't know anything about that.
I don't know anything about this guy just for the record, so I
know nothing on it. Good is he see that guy that wore that weird
bodysuit that looked like he was naked but he had weird hair on his shoulders
and stuff, and he was literally like eight feet tall. Wasn't that guy?
He's like a huge, absolutely giant guy. That sounds right to me.
Kay. I have listen to the podcast yet, and he was definitely
w w E. And Okay, it sounds like the events took place like
in the early two thousands. He was yards. Yeah, I guess so,
oh God, I didn't know about that. Is it like a mystery?
Nobody knows who the who the culprit was. No, they seemed to
pretty much no. From what it sounded like, they pretty much blame it
on their version of their momfia A quick quick look at a Canadian news website
called Globalnews dot CAA. Apparently, let's see when this happens. September nineteenth
of twenty fifteen is the date of this article. Winnipeg in Canada. A
fifty nine year old woman is now facing life behind bars with no chance of
parole for at least twenty five years, after being convicted of first degree murderer.
Rita Kushine was found guilty of conspiracy to commit murder in the death of
a former professional wrestler known as quote the Croatian giant end quote Ivan radakaj Okay,
which is spelled r A d O c A J forty three was killed
in two thousand and seven. Cushing testified in her own defense a trial claims
she didn't know about the plan to attack him. However, the Queen's Bench
justice did not buy it. Cushion's son, Donald Richard, and three others
have already been convicted for their roles in the murder. So apparently, yeah,
this is something that happened in two thousand and seven. She was convicted
in twenty fifteen, and that's the way the official story stands. Now,
is there a conspiracy or whatever else. It doesn't mention it here in the
general Global news article. I'll put that link in the in the chat room
Middlechelli dot com, by the way, just in case anybody else wants to
look at it. Okay, I'm still trying to figure out who the Croatian
giant. There's pictures of him in the article. I'm just saying, but
he doesn't look familiar to me at all. I don't remember this guy from
anywhere. Yeah, I'm not finding much. I'm not. I don't think
he's the guy that I suspected earlier at that weird SEP thing. I don't
know who it is that might have been one of the Barbarian guys at some
point who had this like, you know, odd sort of like drawn on
muscles on like a fleshy colored suit. Yeah, yeah, I think that
I'll look it up. But yeah, I'm I don't know. Something's ringing
a bell in my head, like he was some kind of barbarian, not
Barbarian like road warrior barbarian, but another guy like the Barbarian or something like
that, and he was extra big and he probably didn't last long. But
this guy don't remember at all Croatian Giant. Mmmm, I don't either.
I don't remember him either. Uncle did did you ever see the Croatian Giant?
Maybe maybe you saw it? No, lots of other giants. I
remember Kamala the Uganda Giant, Andre the Giant because I've been on the TVs.
But for a minute there, Yeah, they called that guy a big
show. Not the show them TV right, otherwise we would have said something
right, for a minute there they showed that guy that they called the big
show. Later he was something giant, even though Big John Stud at one
point started calling himself the Giant John Stud although he was not as big as
Andre, and that was his big rivalry and his whole gimmick for a little
while was and we'll pay you ten grand if you can slam me. Remember
that book John Studds gimmick or don the Giants gimmick? Oh, Big John
Studds gimmick. Okay. I remember hearing stories about Andre the Giant really disliked
him and he would beat up on him pretty bad. As I think that
came up in the Andre the Giant biographies, like he just that was one
of the guys. Like I suppose if you crossed Andre the giant, or
he just didn't like you. He would take the opportunity in the ring to
actually hurt you, which you know, it doesn't take a lot of effort
on this part, so he would he would make you pay for yours whatever.
When you're like seven foot four and five hundred pounds, I imagine it
wouldn't be too hard to hurt somebody else, you know. I mean think
about that. That's like, you know, two of me weight wise,
and you got to add another foot cuts sick, got to add another foot
and four inches to my height. I mean, that's a hell of a
thing. I don't want to I don't even want to wrestle with that.
For God's sake, gake it easily hurt the accidentally or on purpose, right,
yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, he would do that
move where you just go ahead, go ahead to the best part of that
documentary on him was when when the macho man they were talking, he used
to hurt me Mann he dick. It was the joy. Well, Randy,
you know, compared to Andre was not big at all. I mean,
he wasn't even big compared to most of the contemporary wrestlers. It was
just I mean he was a big guy kind of yeah, but like not
when you got you know, not when you start getting into the seven foot
range and well over three hundred pound range, he starts getting dwarfed. I
mean, Randy was a little small, even though he had all those skills
and he had been from the wrestling family, the popos and all that.
So I can imagine Andre throwing him around like a ragdall. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, I mean the whole Cogan made him look very tiny.
That's it's definitely as farn as wrestlers go, not very large. And Hogan,
I think his eight guys just gotta see one live, bam, but
toast something to see one live. If you all flip you all will flip
out. Yeah, it'd be cool. It'd be fine. I have and
be fine coming out cons coming out kind of stop this guy's dude, and
this is on television. Yeah, well I saw Andre live in Asbury Park,
right there at the convention hall. Huge. Andre was. He was
shaking, you know, touching your hands as he's going through, right,
and like, I'm not a small guy, as I've always said. I
mean I'm not a giant guy at all. I'm six foot tall. I
got fairly large hands. I stuck my hand out, you know, try
and get the little little touch or a little shake on his way through,
and my my hand just like disappeared, like like like a toddler's hand disappears
in a grown man's hand, like you know, in Andre's hand. I
was like, Wow, this guy's human. Man. I told you,
it's seen, Like I said, Chuck, it's seeing somebody live in itself.
Mhm. You just go, yeah, trying to find a ticket.
You go to these things, and I saw that one time. I went
with my fun and we both went in and boy and there was there was
what decade we talk? Where did you go in New York or Florida or
food nineteen nineties, two thousands, maybe even two thousands. Who were the
main main stars? You remember seeing who the big macho man I think was
macho man wrestling? Uh well, the three the three big new names.
But he started as little munchkins running around. They started as a bunch kid
that they grew into like a big guy. Yeah. Maybe he's talking about
that guy who was the Irish guy who was running around and for a minute
there they had like uh leprecons with him. What who was that guy?
How do I forget this? Yeah? He was Sam in the stadium.
He had red hair down down down the backside to that thing. Yeah,
and here they come, I mean they a little things coming down only trying
to move a wrestling match. Gosh, and and and really it's going crazy
and and these little things around the Fanish feet. You're not talking about like
Doink and Dink the clowns? Are you? Like Doink the clown? They
had that guy that was the little guy that was also dressed like him,
and he was named Dink. Wasn't that wasn't well for a little while there
were these little leprechn guys. He used to come out with a guy who
had red hair and uh and and was you know said they would play like,
you know, very stereotypical like Irish jig kinda you know do do like
it was really, I can't this show. It's like watching a show on
shait on the on on on on the on the uh on the TV on
on the stage. Okay, it's like one of them comes down on start
talking about in in the in the in the ring. So this is the
one that you remember the best? Is whatever? This? So he probably
went to a team be taping where they have these things that go on in
between, because you know, the regular wrestling matches. It used to be
you just got wrestling unless they were taping it for TV or they were broadcasting
it live. Okay, it was the t you like, it was the
TV cameras taping it from the TV right in this. What's sitting there sitting
in live watching this, and and all the people that are on the TV
watching this is how it did, how they do it. It's very very
complicated. So was it like a Monday night roars something like it was?
And I think he's trying to tell you about the big screens that are inside
at a place while you're sitting there, because you can actually look up and
there's like a big screen, so the people in the nosebleed seats can actually
see what's happening, right, And so they got the giant screens that you
could see it from any side. They put it like on all four sides
or at least two sides of the ring, right yep. And then you
see you actually what the cameras are picking up on those screens, or you
can look down at the live action. But you know, if you're way
up in the nosebleeds again, weighing the back, maybe you're better off looking
at the screen. Let's say family clothes. You guys were closed, okay,
yeah, yeah we will, we would. And man, where we
sued this bit coming. And when they were shooting each other, when they
start hitting each other, yeah, yeah, they're hitting the floor on the
floor on the man, hitting people like popping their hands, popping mount they
hit the doing like on the feet on the booming, slamping, going back
and forth, back and forth. Yea, So now you know that's all
fake. See it's all fake. But I'll tell you back back when I
saw that Andre thing, though I saw something incredible, there was a guy
named mister Fuji right, he was still a wrestler. He becomes a manager
later, but at this time when I saw Andre, this is like the
eighties, I think early eighties. I was real young, but I'm real
close right, like almost front row. And mister Fujie used to do a
thing where he threw salts in the corner of the ring and sometimes you know
his game, it would be throw it in the eyes of a guy when
the rep wasn't looking. That kind of stuff. They handle all that,
that's what goes on. Well, I was close enough to get hit with
the sauce where Berts the cane came in later when he's a manager. I'm
talking about when he was a wrestler. He was in a tag team with
a guy named mister Saito. Anyways, so it was Fuji and Saito the
tag team. They're wrestling. They're bad guys, and the salt came in
hit me. That's how close I was. And when they came out,
they go to fight outside of the ring for a minute. I'm like,
you know, five feet from these two guys going at it, and he
picks them up and slams him on the cement at convention Hall. No pad,
okay, no ring, no nothing, picked him up and dropped him.
You could hear this guy's back slap on the cement like you know too.
I mean, they come up take him on the wing, like he's
saying. The slap was louder than the crowd around me. When his back
hit the floor, and I just went ooh, that had to be uncomfortable.
And I mean I knew it was small, fake, you know,
but you know they're sitting there swinging they barely come near him. Of course,
if it's on TV, you change the angle a little bit. Blah
blah blah. I know, but I don't know how you fake getting dropped
on your back on that cement. That sounded like impact to me. And
I was like, oooh, that hadn't a sting man and and the guys
at the walk that would ye. So you saw the Bushwrackers, So this
is the eighties then, yeah, yeah that was when they were attacked.
Yeah, yeah, that was the eighties maybe early nineties maybe when you saw
this, yeah yeah, bouncing back and forth and uh and then and then
they came and they start taking the ring at part guys chowing down the food
like he's eating some taking half the wings down. Yes, And here the
people are looking at this crazy nut cheining and playing the wrestling. It's just
absolutely ridiculous watching one of these guys. It's faking going around here and trying
to whip the with the wings part. They're hungry on they go hungry,
they eat. I remember that the bush Whackers wood stuffy. Yeah, yeah,
they had a fun gimmick. I like I was like that because I
was a kid in there around. I always liked them, so they're fine,
don't carry that team. Guys are never gonna believe this, you know.
Do you know how long the career of the Bushwhackers actually was. You'll
never guess it. Okay, various changes of name, but ready for this.
Thirty six years as a tag team. They started in eighteen that long
Dixist. They started in nineteen sixty six, and they were called the Kiwis,
all right, and they wrestled in Australia. Okay, maybe Ray knows
something about this, he's he's listening. Then they became the New Zealand sheep
Herders. Okay, Yeah, Then they became and that was in let's see
what year, in nineteen seventy eight. Then in eighty one they became the
News sheep Herders, all right, and they started moving up a little bit.
Okay, Uh, let's see Jonathan Boyd and Rip Morgan they were called
from nineteen eighty five to nineteen eighty six, and they're they were in Puerto
Rico wrestling. Then they were called the Originals from eighty six to eighty eight.
Okay, and this is where they go to the UWF and all these
other little things, along with Ted DBAs a bunch of people that would show
up elsewhere their first time with Jim Crockett Promotions, etc. They go to
Memphis, they go all over the place. Now the Bushwhackers become a thing.
You ready for this? In nineteen eighty eight, Okay, that sounds
right. Yeah, and they wrestled apparently in the WWF in and out,
in and out of the WWF from nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety six.
They had a World Tag Team. They held the World Tag Team champions Ship
from nineteen ninety one to ninety two. Let's see. They opened the nineteen
ninety three with another opportunity against Tag Team Money Inc. In ninety three let's
see. After the WWF Okay. After leaving the WWF, the team made
special appearances in the independent circuit, including a return to the WWC okay which
I don't even remember. The WWC uh they were part of something called fifty
Years of Funk. They went into the ECW as Luke and Butch Dudley.
They were the Dudley's, well, they were Luke and Butch Dudley as cousins.
The Dudley brothers in the Bushwhackers were the Dudley's that's the same guys.
It's what it says here. In nineteen ninety nine, the Bushwhackers participated in
Heroes of Wrestling, where Williams and Miller took on and defeated former WWF tag
team champions The Iron Cheek and Nikolai Volkoff. Okay, Now, when I
think about it, that one Dudley brother looks like the Bushwhackers. I ain't
realize it was the same guy it was. I didn't know that their last
night. Is he from New Zealand? For real? Are they from New
Zealand. I'll go back to their their early career and stuff, but just
to give you a closure on this, their last match as a team was
on December eight, two thousand one, in Farmville, Virginia, losing to
Carnage and Mister Big Stuff. Miller Wood would retired from wrestling in two thousand
and one after a neck injury, and Williams retired in two thousand and two.
Williams came out of retirement in two thousand and seven, where he worked
for Ring of Honor appearances in New Zealand, Ultimate Championship Wrestling in Nova Scotia,
Canada, and the independent circuit. As of twenty twenty two, he
still occasionally wrestles for independent shows in the United States. At seventy five years
of age, and his partner died on April two. Okay, on the
second of April twenty twenty three. Miller died at age seventy eight, is
what it says here. So, oh my god, I did not realize
that Dudley's and then them weren't the same. Right to go back to their
points of origin and all that good stuff. Let's see build they were build
as from being from New Zealand. Now doesn't say that's where they were from.
Let's see, I gotta I gotta find that out. Let's see the
news sheep orders of history. Let me see where their personal histories are.
Yeah, because the Dudley wasn't the Dudley Boys, the Dudley brothers like I
remember them. There were all sorts of different iterations of the Dudley's over time,
and they were one. And they they did that bit with like they
throw people through the tables and they'd like jump off ladders and stuff. Yeah,
that's that's at ec W Extreme Championship Wrestling, right, So, yeah,
that's when they put all the tables in the vein. Yeah. Yeah,
they were famous for the tables knocking people down. Who's on the next
opponent from that one? They had that match with what the Edging Christian and
what was that other group of the guys that jumped around. They had a
big ladder match that was really famous with a couple of those I forget the
other team's name now the Hardy Boys, it does. They's the Hardy Boys,
an Edging Christian and that was like a really famous matcher jumping off really
high ladders and come through tables and jumping out of the ring and all this
stuff. It's crazy to think that that was like a bushwhacker, that one
guy. M Yeah. So apparently, okay, Luke Williams and Butch Miller
started wrestling as the Kiwis for NWA New Zealand later on known as All Star
Pro Wrestling in nineteen sixty six, so that's where they started. It says
they were billed as being from there. I can't I'm looking for their personal
thing, but of co that's where their career started, and uh, I
don't know, I got I gotta find I gotta find their personal histories here.
I guess I'll look them up under their regular names and interesting. Yeah,
so maybe maybe that was the nineties that you went to the show.
Uncle, maybe it was like the early nineties. Does that sound right or
yeah, it's right, the nineties. Yeah. But also so because that's
a w w E event for in Florida, Little Lunchkin, little Green Yellow
men. Was everybody a bunch kind there was little Was the munchkin a clown
or a yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a clown.
That's what I was saying. It was going to be doing. Yeah you
saw that, you saw? Are you sure about that? Yeah? But
they there was there was before he be king and oh w with snake with
the snake and uh the snake, Jake, Jake the Snake. Before that,
they were the Lollipop Guild. Yeah, yeah, clearly everybody remembers that
and Jake the Snake, uh and uh back the model Martel they started wing
the black uniforms, black uniforms, okay, I mean, and he stuck
and the U n W O n W in a New World Order and w
O. Yeah. Well that that was w c W. Yeah, yeah,
that was w c W. Yeah, it was it a w w
E or w C W SH had him, and then they were trading stuff
back and forth, so I mean it's easy to confused. Then two were
going back to and the colors. But before that he was a little Oh
god, her go with the little again. He shut down. Now he
seemed like he made himself smaller. He's a big he's a big little He's
a big little guy. When is the guy that he tuned xpoc He was
yellow before he became Simpson black kid, yellow before he became Hulk Hogan Fulkan
Hulan hul Cogan gives his name whole Cogan goes from hul Cogan goes from the
yellow. Hull Cogan goes from the yellow the black shirt. When he becomes
Hollywood Hulk, buy he becomes Hollywood Hulk. Hulk Cogan had his little men
little men. Yeah, this little time and before before he became the nWo
with Hollywood Hollywood hope. Yes. That so he went from and I don't
guy was pretty good stuff. That was him becoming a heel when up to
that point he had been the big baby face of all baby faces, the
number one guy. But she transformed into the heel, and that was the
whole nWo, Hollywood, Hogan, et cetera. E. Yeah, so
you have all these we saw that these little lucites on these crazy wrestling operations,
it will get in the middle when they're starting disturb disturb the match,
you like, the managers and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they
always I mean that is crazy. Okay. It was like a kind of
like the show watching watching a show like someone's in a clim and the comics
show that. It was really funny. Jimmy, following all that follow this,
Jimmy, I'm thrown and uh and for they're more and defenseive little people.
Yeah. I find it outrageousts that the Disney Corporation isn't hiring seven dwarves
to the new Snow White movie. Instead, they've all been replaced by so
called magical creatures. Oh to bunch a rear street or chin. Look at
the people. I don't know what's magical about them, see, because I'm
undergo it's because I don't understand what's politically correct here, Jimmy, I don't
know what the bigger foul is, right. Is it using dwarf well dwarves?
Is it using little people in roles simply because they're little people. Is
that staying to integrity or is that exploiting little people? Or is it both?
I can't tell anymore. I'm not sure what the politically correct thing is.
They're a little confused, Jimmy, what do you think? Or I
think the political correct stuff needs to go to hell? I mean, yeah,
of course for a certain part, days should look like the part I
agree with you that what's controvert Well, I agree with you there. And
here's the thing. Some of these politically correct lefties, though, say,
look, if it's an Asian character, get an Asian person to play it.
If it's a handicapped character, get a handicapped person to play it.
If it's a black character, get a black person to play it. If
it's you know, they say that all the time. If they're Latino,
then that should be a Latino actor. Okay, and if it's thirty they
do that. But look, let's say you're running Saturday Night Live and you've
got ten guys and none of them are what you need. I mean,
why can't you portray that in a lighthearted way that I mean these days you'd
be crucified. Yeah, I know, but of course you got to include
everybody now even if they're not funny, because that's why Saturday Night Live has
thirty cast members. Uh and I bet you can. And then they had
these little guys, little guys back, don't forget the little little guys,
and they get in the middle of these little short, little fellas. I
just I don't remember so many related matches. This is how they aren't Jimmy.
Okay, okay, little guy, Aaron, you're too young. You're
too young to remember the days four or five match. Look, there was
days. I'm telling you. Listen, Aaron, you gotta understand. I
guarantee if you look for film of it, you can find Andre the Giant
wrestling five of what they called midgets on TV five midgets at once a handicap
match in the in the seventies. In the seventies, little people were very
very prevalent. Yes they there were. There were what they called no lie,
are you doing no lie? There were what they called midget wrestlers,
okay, that were part of main events all over the country and every kind
of wrestling in the seventies. Absolutely true. Okay, okay, well that's
fine, then we gotta we gotta change Uncle's story. You didn't watch this
show in the eighties. You didn't watch in the nineties. It was the
seventies that you're there in Florida watching a show. Is right. No,
I'm just trying to I'm just trying. Let's get the time I just done.
It was a I mean you tell me, a Hollywood whole COVID was
there that was like yeah, but they still had smack down. Look,
Aaron, let's get this straight. Uncle could have seen little people because they
weren't wrestlers no more in the nineties. Now they had him as Lepric.
No notice, I bring up the LEPrecon, he brings up the clown.
Indeed, there was a little person clown, a little person LEPrecon, a
little person this and that. They had little people here and there, but
they weren't really doing the wrestling anymore. Now. They were little additional pieces
to somebody else's act. Like I told you, the one guy comes out
doing the Irish jig. He's dressed in green, he's got green tights on
all that he's got to come out with like two lepre cons throwing four League
clovers at the crowd as they danced down the aisle. I'm not kidding this
is, but it's funny. It just points out how ridiculous this whole thing
is. But I mean, that's wrestling. So even the guy Okay an
independent wrestling organizations went and got people like do you ever see Okay, you're
semi familiar with Howard Stern at some incarnation right now? Oh yeah, oh
yeah. So he had this little guy on there named Beetlejuice. Yeah,
oh I know, Beetlejuice. Yeah, he was mentally handicapped. He was
a little person, and Beetlejuice got into some of these wrestling acts, some
of these indie wrestling acts in the New York area especially, but in other
parts of the country. Even Beetle Juice was out there wrestling with people.
He would just yell about'm beetle Juice and I And they put him in a
wrestling outfit, and his whole thing was I want to keep the outfit.
That was his whole big thing. Somebody came in and I want to keep
the outfit. I mean, he did everything from adult films to wrestling matches,
Beetlejuice. But but the point is, in the nineties, Uncle could
have easily seen a bunch of little people involved in a TV promotion on a
couple of different wrestling things. Could have been WCW. It could have been
the brief thing where they had what they were calling nWo broadcasts. It was
meant to look like some competition to the WCW. It could have been ECW,
and it could have been all right, all right, it was Friday
Nights Night SmackDown. It was Friday Night SmackDown. That's what it actually was.
Hollywood Hall Coogan was there a bunch of door a bunch of little people
were wrestling little guy against what man until they get to the main event,
which which was what? What was the main event was? It wasn't Hollywood
Hall cooking? Uh? The bush Rackers, I forgot the name was the
Rock? There? Uh was Mankind's. There was Randa Savage because he was
in the end WO two. That's all right, that's all right, that's
it was in the nineties, Quick question day. This was the Rock?
Didn't the Rock? I used to say ask people what the yes? Yes,
yes, was the can you can you smell what's cooking? Can you
smell what the Rock is cooking? Is? That? That was his thing?
Right? Okay, So I'm looking back. Here's a quick question for
you'll help me out. Uncle, Did Hollywood Houll Cogan wrestle a big fat
guy named Earthquake at this event? Oh? Yeah, I remember that.
That's when he was yellow. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a couple of
times he did it, and there was a point at which he wrestled the
big guy. I think he did as Hollywood Hogan because the picture shows him
with the with the dark goatee with the streaks in it, which is yes,
yes, I think. So, I'm trying to track down this event,
Aaron. I'm doing my best researching and trying to track down the event.
Okay, another one where he's at an event with the Ultimate Warrior and
he looks like he's dressed that way, which makes no sense because I thought,
Hollywood Hogan, there's only WCW. But I'm working on no, no,
no, no. I remember that because Warrior came back for a WCW
promotion as own. That's what it is. Okay. As the Enemy of
nWo is one Warrior nation, He's like, I'm gonna come get you and
the Warriors. Okay, So was the Ultimate Warrior? Was? So?
Was the Ultimate Warrior at this show? Uncle? Yeah? Was the Warrior
there. Do you remember him? Think so? He was there too.
Yeah, I'm gonna try and short it out, Eric, give me,
give me Friday Night SmackDown. I know that there's you all. Donda wants
Friday nights meant into Uncle. No, it's not, Uncle. It is
not that simple, look because the SmackDown, the Friday Night thing has been
around for years and years. They even had NBC brought on a Friday or
Saturday night wrestling thing at one time, and other companies tried to compete with
the WWE, WWF, et cetera. I mean, in fact, part
of how the WWF got founded and big with the TV contracts comes out of
the fact that they knocked other people out of their time slots, away from
their TV slots on Friday nights. So what I'm telling you is there's a
lot of Friday night wrestling over the course of the night nineties, the eighties,
the two thousands and so on, so there's tons of it. I
gotta narrow this down to an event held in Florida broadcast on TV with Hokogan
and some little guys, for sure, And I'm trying. It's not that
easy, though, Uncle, I swear it's not that easy. I'm working
on it though. Okay, give me, give me some time on weekend
to see. By the way, it was with the john Woods. John
Wood that was in was working with me in the base. Oh that's who
you Okay, everybody and him. Can I get him on the show to
listen. I'm not get him on the show, not to spoil anybody's party
whatsoever. But it is actually at that two hour time, just so you
know we're actually there. I'm not sure how long uncles show went, but
i know your show went over a little bit and his show is now we're
at twenty one past midnight here in the East. So I'm just letting you
know. You don't got a hand right away, but I'm just letting you
know where we're at. Okay, we hit a very important topic, the
subject the belt. All these little guys and we got sidekick here laughing away,
but these little munch and I'm trying to help you, I know,
and I'm taking much because just the sheer volume up of this. But there
were points we could see a couple, sure, but you're telling me,
like every other batch that popping out. Yeah, but that's it. But
there were shows that happened like that, where they had bunches of them.
I mean, yeah, in the seventies you could have whole tag teams,
you had whole events. They would show midget wrestling. But in the nineties
they had whole teams of these guys. It's like, send out three,
you know. They would send out like three of these you know, lucky
guys throwing lucky charms at the audience, you know what I mean, and
uh and and uh four League clovers and then they needed another guy to come
out with another team. They had lots of little people and there would be
tons of them. Uncle might be reporting something very accurate here, I'm telling
you sounds uncle and Sting mustn't running the whoops yet with staying there, I
don't think I didn't see Sting wasn't running the whoops yet. Okay, fair
enough? Do we needed you shout out? Oh? Go ahead, Jimmy,
Shimmy shout out? Okay, can we get time flies when you're crazy?
You know what I'm saying now. I can't believe it seems like you
show Stair fifteen minutes ago and one even hardly called in. Yeah, I
mean, Jimmy James and only call first week of the football season. Jimmy
James is the only caller tonight, so I don't know. Yeah, would
be because of the football season. I don't know. But Janny James is
the only either hour, either hour. We only got Jimmy James. So
there you go. But the other hand, so you're someone that has absolutely
no trouble carrying a show single handedly for an hour, but I can.
I can get into one very very shortly and funny and and like, hey
there I kick you waitning around with little men on the in the steam.
Look at a kick out of there him Jimmy. You realize that they're comedians.
If you told them they had to do twenty minutes on stage and just
talk, they would pee and poop their pants. They wouldn't do it.
Indeed, Uncle, believe it or not, some comedians will take an entire
year to create twenty minutes of material that they do live just talking by themselves.
So there you go. I was. I thought it was a great
fun discussion. I hope more people do join in next week. I'm sure
people listening and they will listen more later. Have a great weekend. It's
a good show. Everyone that can help support deal Chelly effect. There's a
lot of well just today Chuck carred the new show, so all kinds of
news stuff going on there. All right, bye everyone, take care,
Jimmy, thanks for being there. All right? Uh, Uncle, do
you have any shout outs or just shut out too good? Chuck is uh
representing this audience for his thing and sin and sin a donation to him for
having this activity, chant shanning for this confusing talking they've been having, shout
out to them for him. So so Uncle says, support the confusion.
Yeah, yeah, if you want that. We were having night. Yeah,
keep it going, keep it. I don't want it to stop.
I mean, but it was really good because I had shot kick here,
laughing a storm up with the little men on in in the field. Never
you made a believer out of it. It was funny. Little guy here,
a little guy here, ten little guys here, whole cooking there,
twenty more little guys. I get it. I believe it. The computer
ninety nineteen seventy. I don't know. Friday Night smack Down, Monday Night
Emporium, whatever it is. I don't know whatever it all happened. My
apologies, by the way, my apologies to anybody who might have called in
in the past ten minutes, because, uh, my computer froze and then
crashed. That was hosting the call in lines. So I don't even know
how we stayed connected to Jimmy James the past ten minutes, what we did,
and so that that computer crashed. I'm not sure what's going on with
the radio miracle. It's the radio in the state either. No, no,
no, we everybody the live stream is still happening. I'm sure if
we go and look in the chat room, they'll tell us the live stream
is still going. Uh but but the thing is, and you guys are
streaming elsewhere as well, so it is what it is. But yeah,
but the phone line connection got severed at some point here and I was unable
to pull up anybody else. If you called in, I couldn't see you
and I couldn't get your calls. Just telling you sorry about that, right,
listeners, Listeners, we got everywhere fun. I am fun talking to
Jimmy the way he was acting, exactly the way Jimmy was going, the
way, the way the show went. We had plenty of fun with the
wrestling thing. For a minute. I can't even remember everything we talked about.
It was just a good time, right, and I had to put
something together in the show. So I put that together. Uncle, you
put it together. But now it's all come apart. The whole week just
ended. Even though it's Sunday, the week isn't starting, it's actually ending.
The show is ending. Well, hang on one more thing, uncle,
just so you know, because I did not give you this report earlier.
We have a couple of listeners in Paris, France. We have a
couple of listeners in Paris, Illinois. I've never seen that happen on the
stream before. Also, an unusually large amount of listeners for us at this
time of night because it's early morning, okay, uh next day, early
morning in the UK. So there was about nine or ten listeners in the
UK tonight alone. Let's see what else we got. One in Ukraine,
one in Spain, uh, Mexico. This one is somewhere in Africa,
but I don't know what country. Let's see where else we got all over
the US. Of course, I wanted to give you that report before we
were done, to let you know we had international listeners. Also, gutent
talk to the people in Germany. Thank you for being on there for the
past ten days. Just don't think you know, but all these people were
tuned into Uncle tonight just for your knowledge. So I wanted to let you
know that before you take the show home. And with that, I will
now shut up. I appreciate the shout outs. I appreciate anybody does at
Ocelli dot com to keep the confusion going and the non confusion going all of
this stuff. That is a twenty four hour radio station and is now a
set of one, two, three, four different podcasts, but there will
be more soon special events coming Tomorrow is not a normal broadcast day for me,
but in observance of nine to eleven, there will be live guests.
Many were invited. We shall see who actually shows up, and it will
not just be at my regular times. So I have multiple possibilities for live
shows tomorrow as well. And uh, there you go. I just want
to let everybody know that, and thank you Aaron for doing this, and
you Uncle for doing this, as Uh, how many years have we been
doing this? Uncle? Do you know how many years we've been doing this?
Now I go from that for the new revolutions, now, it's how
many evolutions? How I'm just trying to remember how many little people we have
this was gonna come up. I remember at least fifteen last year, and
fifteen little people in the Interludeick, wait a minute now, wait wait,
one last thing. Also, sidekick, I remember a couple of years ago
you were supposed to get some little people as guests for Uncle. I don't
think you ever did that happen? What happened? Yeah, what happened?
This? Actually I kept I believe the story a very early broadcast ask Creative
Accidents, because I'm sure he always eats. He'll turn around and tell me,
yeah, calling him up and let him telling you, right, it
was like fifteen minutes in. Oh no, he reminds us of everything creative
accident. So that's what I said. And so yeah, exactly, I'm
just I'm agreeing with you, uncle. But the thing is that I remember
this show that happened because we were talking about little people tonight. Then Uncle
was talking about little people another time a couple of years ago, I mean
all the way back in like maybe twenty seventeen, and Uncle was talking about
it, and I remember I had to tell you, yeah, it had
to be twenty seventeen because I was going to Dallas, and I said,
look, guys, i'll be away for a week, so I won't be
on the show, and this and that, and Uncle said something. Somehow
little people came up, and Uncle said, I want some little people on
here had to answer these questions, and he had some questions in mind,
and you said, okay, I'll get them, and I said all right.
And we never got back to it because I went away to Dallas.
I got caught up in other stuff. I didn't get on it, and
you never did it. So where's your job to figure out a little person
to get them on the show. They could be wrestlers, yeah, they
could be little people wrestlers or whatever, you know, because these little guys
they talk, and when I listen to them talk, they make little sense.
You didn't even kill her, because you know, there was whole TV
shows with little people, right the big little world and all this stuff.
And I'll tell you what I think Uncle would have a lot of fun with
is talking to a little lady. Yeah little lady. Yeah, like a
little person, but a lady. See now you're talking. Now you got
my number, Chucky, I got you lcohol. I notice that if they
make little sense. They'll fit right in, that fit in my acting on
my my shows, every single show that I'm me. Yeah, this shit
isn't easy simple and might and there might even do some people that are specifically
comic actors. A lot of little people get comic you know, roles and
interesting spots and movies. I mean there's a variety of little people. You
could reach out to anybody who you know, the guys who are originally operating
the R two D two suit, right, those guys, the people that
played Ewoks in the Star Wars universe. Uh, some of these wrestlers.
I'm sure Uncle would love to talk to any of them. You might be
able to find a couple sidekick here there on social media, and maybe we
could get some little people on the Uncle Show. And I think that would
be a lot of fun. So I'm just throwing it out there. As
again, I always give you guys suggestions, and I thought it would be
worth it plus to give you the overall who we got in America. Our
biggest state tonight is in Texas, but we had listeners in Michigan, Washington.
Let's see where else the Massachusetts. I thought I saw New Jersey,
but I don't see it now, Pennsylvania, California, Texas again, Oklahoma,
Florida. One listener in Florida, A bunch of them that just say
the United States. Nobody listening in Georgia at all. That I see Alabama,
though, And I think I covered everybody except oh, New Mexico,
New Mexico and Arizonia. Here we go, New Mexico. So that's everybody
who's listening. I think I just named all your states. If you're on
Ocelli dot com or listening through one of our things, I got you.
If you're on twitch or YouTube or whatever, Sidekick sees you, we see
you, We appreciate you, and thank you. So anyway, Uncle,
that's enough out of me. But I wanted to let you give you the
report on everybody listening and remind Sidekick he never got you some little people since
you were talking about it, and I knew you would love that. I
would really enjoyed talking to those guys. So now we can close out this
show, showing the show out to my H nine show is down books.
There we go. That's all time. Okay, there we'all, let's ever now m