WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:03.839 All right, let's go Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete and five to seventy l 2 00:00:03.879 --> 00:00:07.919 a sports two hours for us today. Uh, David Vassy will join us 3 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:11.320 at the top of the one o'clock hour and it will be our final conversation 4 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:16.399 with him boards the plane to Korea. Would he want to be on that 5 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:20.800 trip for it? Yeah, wouldn't that be just a just a fun trip 6 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:24.559 to be on. And look, look at the way the Dodgers do it. 7 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:28.640 They don't play it till next week. Let's get in there early, 8 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:34.079 Let's get acclimated to the time change, Let's have some fun, Let's look 9 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:36.640 around, Let's make a trip out of it. It's a trip. But 10 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.200 aren't they but they're playing uh, they're playing exhibition games first though, aren't 11 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.719 they They're going early? Yeah, I mean just to kind of get their 12 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:47.560 feet wet. Yeah, but still yeah, you know, they'll be able 13 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:52.359 to go around, see Soul, see Korea. It'll be great for him. 14 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.399 When is the one of the padres going? You know, I don't 15 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:57.880 know, I don't know. I thought they all had to be there on 16 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.840 the same time. Aren't they playing some uh some expo games too. Here's 17 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.280 the problem with the Padres. If you remember what happened last year because they 18 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:07.400 lost their TV deal and then spent all the money they did on players. 19 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.159 Oh no, they probably don't have any money to go early. They going 20 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:14.840 on Spirit. Yeah, I think they're going Spirit, and I think they 21 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:19.040 can only stay three nights in a hotel. Oh oh at Motel six. 22 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.400 Yeah, they have one of O's and Soul. Yeah. Oh, they've 23 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:26.680 got everything there. I stayed at the Hotel et one, the new no 24 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.920 oh no, not no, not the Hotel et one, the Hotel et 25 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.359 one. And then where you got your suit That's where I got my suits. 26 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:38.359 The old Tani the new Otani Hotel. Oh, that's where I stayed, 27 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.640 the new Otani. We got a hotel there too. I didn't know 28 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:45.879 he was in the hotel business guys everywhere. That was what it was called, 29 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:49.359 the New Otani Hotel because they replaced the old Otani Hotel. So I 30 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:57.079 think that's what it was called. Really mm hmmm. Yeah. So it 31 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:04.439 was nice, Oh beautiful, It was incredible. Korea was great. I 32 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.520 can't say the same for Beijing, but Korea was great. That was a 33 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.800 different trip. Yeah, Beijing is when they got both the guns on you 34 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:14.280 like popped out of the grass. Right. No, no, no, 35 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:16.599 no, it was just because he went to the wrong forbidden place and he 36 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:20.080 stepped on the grass when he wasn't stepped on the grass. Yeah, and 37 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.319 they got me. So that wasn't with signs they don't step on the grass, 38 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.080 clearly told you don't step on the ground, clearly with with security saying 39 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.960 don't step on the grass, don't do it. That was there, don't 40 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.240 do it. And of course little Freddy, a little bad ass Freddy Rogan 41 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:37.439 got to step on the grass. I went on there, always that bad 42 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:42.919 kid Kevin in every class I went aways, Yeah, no Kevin. That 43 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.199 did happen in Korea, but that was on me in Beijing. It was 44 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:51.039 very different. Before we went to Beijing, NBC would have the seminars and 45 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:55.199 Dick Eversaw would speak and he said, look in China, and they always 46 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:59.039 warned everybody. I mean, we're all adults, we know how to behave, 47 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.840 but we always are we doing all adults and do we all know how 48 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:06.120 to behave? Let's put it like this. We were adults, we were 49 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:07.840 adults, and we knew how to behave. But he said, by the 50 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:12.439 way, if the police pick you up here, because when you go to 51 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:16.479 a foreign country with NBC and you do the Olympics, you know there are 52 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:21.960 some accommodations made if something you got a little cloub go along with NBC. 53 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.240 Yeah, not so in Beijing. If anything happened to you, if the 54 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:30.039 police picked you up, they could hold you. I think it was for 55 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:36.840 seventy two hours before they told anybody they had you. And he warned everybody, 56 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:40.680 so if you go missing, we'll probably know where you're at, and 57 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:45.520 they're under no obligation to tell us they've got you. So if you go 58 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:51.240 missing, though, if you go missing and your people are worried about you, 59 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:55.120 friends, family, whomever is worried about you, can you inquire to 60 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:59.520 the to the authorities and say, may my guy's missing, can you check 61 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:02.120 on him? Or if they just simply don't have to tell anybody anything for 62 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:06.000 seventy two hours. From what he said, they don't have to tell anybody 63 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:11.400 anything for seventy two hours. Even if you ask, they don't have to 64 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.639 tell you. That's well, that's what he said. Now. I don't 65 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.160 know if it's changed since we were in Beijing, but those were the rules 66 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:24.120 in and everybody, you know, he would stand up before everyone but games 67 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:30.079 and explain that we are visitors in their country, and also suggested we don't 68 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:34.560 act like the Americans. We can act like true you know, the arrogant 69 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:39.519 Americans when we travel right. He would stand up there in front of everybody 70 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:45.279 and say that just to make sure everybody behaves, which is a shame that 71 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.839 he would have to even say that. But we, like I said, 72 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:55.959 there's always one at least one in every group that I don't see the rules. 73 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:00.959 You challenge the rules, see how far they can go. All those 74 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:04.800 things always going to be one or two. I never because when you did 75 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:09.560 it for the network, I mean you were basically they took you everywhere, 76 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:13.439 They took care of you. You really had very little time on your own 77 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.439 because if you wanted to do something, you asked and then they would take 78 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.720 you there. So I couldn't figure out how any of us could ever get 79 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:24.160 into trouble. But nonetheless he suggested that. He even said, when you're 80 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:28.199 waiting to check into the venue, because everybody has to go through the metal 81 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:34.040 detector and security, don't rush, don't push it, take your time. 82 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:40.959 It's a slower pace of life in every country we ever traveled to. Don't 83 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:46.360 say this is ridiculous or this is terrible. Don't make any comments like that. 84 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:50.000 Go with the flow, right, Yeah, And that's why when you 85 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:54.600 were assigned to a venue and so for the Summer Games were a good portion 86 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:56.759 of him. I did boxing, and of course the Winter Games I did 87 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:02.600 curling. They would want us at the venue three hours early, three just 88 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:05.279 to make sure. And if you walked in straight in and there was no 89 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:09.800 line, and there never was three hours early, then you were there. 90 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.759 That was another rule. You better not miss where you're supposed to be. 91 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.879 That was another be late, don't miss, don't don't you dare leave yourself 92 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.279 enough time, is what he's saying. You know, if he had his 93 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:28.079 way, we would have slept there. Do not. I'm serious, He 94 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:31.079 warned everybody. If if you're how much did you really listen to that? 95 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.959 Fred? How much did you listen? And then part of it went in 96 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.319 one ear and out the other? No, I listened to We all know 97 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:40.319 you, Fred, We all know you like to put some test the boundaries. 98 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:43.160 You're going doors that you're not supposed to go in. I know, 99 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:48.560 No I listened here Hemograss years ago NBC would have like a three day seminar 100 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:54.279 before all the Olympic Games. And uh I remember before the Salt Lake Games. 101 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.560 We were in Salt Lake. It would be in a giant ballroom. 102 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.680 Everybody that was working on the Olympics would be there, so the production people, 103 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:05.800 the air people, everybody would be in this giant room. Dick Eversoll 104 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:11.879 and David Neil and David Neil now oversees Fox Sports coverage of soccer. They 105 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:15.720 would get up and the thing would be like three days long, and they 106 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:17.920 would have these seminars. They would show tapes of what to do, what 107 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:24.839 not to do, They would have video of guys that made mistakes and explain 108 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:30.920 why. They would cut out press clippings and show them about the anticipation for 109 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.879 the games. And I'll be honest with you, they went on for a 110 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:38.839 while. They were long. It was like three hours in the morning, 111 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:45.480 three hours in the afternoon, and you were sitting in this giant ballroom and 112 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:46.399 they were filling the time. Now, by the way, they do it 113 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:49.720 like in fifteen minutes, because they don't spend money like that anymore. Hey, 114 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:55.079 everybody knows a drill. Don't screw up. Go all right? Read 115 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.720 it for yourself. Right, But back then they'd have these giant seminars. 116 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:03.040 So what would happen But people would fall asleep. They would fall asleep in 117 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.439 the seminar because it was for you. Oh I didn't And here's why. 118 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:11.720 Here's why. If you had been to a few of those you knew something. 119 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.439 You better not fall asleep because they got people in the back with notebooks 120 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.560 and if you fall asleep, they write your name down. Are they really 121 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:33.399 they were checking to see if people fell trode me that two hours? Yeah, 122 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.600 oh yeah, they had people checking to make sure he didn't fall asleep. 123 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.159 They had it all covered. They knew what they were doing, all 124 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:46.159 right. So we'll we'll talk to Dave about his soon trip to Korea. 125 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.480 Coming up at one o'clock. So we know teams got to get down to 126 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.480 the NFL, and the Chargers had a dilemma on their hands. I mean, 127 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.840 Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa, Mike Williams Uh made a lot of money. 128 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.360 They're over the cap and they're in trouble, so somehow, some way 129 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.159 they have to correct it. Keenan Allen makes a lot of money as well. 130 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.399 So now you look at those four guys. Of those four guys, 131 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:20.559 and you go, which one can we afford to let go? Well, 132 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.480 you can't really afford to let Khalil Mack go. So he's staying. Yes, 133 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:30.360 he restructured his deal, so he's in. He's good. He's in, 134 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:35.320 and he had a really good year last year, right, so he's 135 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:39.519 in. He made it. He made the cut. I haven't heard. 136 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.399 I don't know if you have yet about Joey Bosa. I have not, 137 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.759 Okay, I have not, because he was another one, you know, 138 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.399 and you ran down the list. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Khalil Mack, 139 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.559 Joey Bowson were really the four, yeah, that had the big contracts 140 00:09:54.600 --> 00:10:01.159 that were gonna it was gonna be a big hit. And I initially my 141 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:05.679 first reaction as well, same as most people and same as what they did, 142 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.519 is Khalil Mack is probably gonna stay. If anybody is, probably gonna 143 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:15.919 be Bosa because he's been hurt the last few years and they haven't had him, 144 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.559 he hasn't been available for him. It's probably Bosa's gonna be the odd 145 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.519 guy out. Okay. And if they had to do two, then yeah, 146 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.519 the one that got it the one that got it. Okay, so 147 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.519 we don't know about Bosa, we've not heard about Keenan Allen. But the 148 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:37.279 one that's definitely gone is Mike Williams. That's the guy they cut. Now 149 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:43.279 here's the problem. When you cut Mike Williams, you're cutting a guy that, 150 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.240 if healthy, and you can you can argue this with me if you 151 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:50.879 want Rodney, if healthy, could be a top three receiver in the game. 152 00:10:54.759 --> 00:11:00.480 Top yeah, maybe top six, say top three, but we're gonna 153 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.440 put him in the top ten. It we'll put him in top ten. 154 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.320 Yeah, went healthy, it's went healthy yet. But that's the caveat went 155 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:16.519 healthy because since he got here, he gets hurt and it's you know, 156 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.519 it's not like he's running around on a motorcycle. He's hurt on the field 157 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:26.080 and that's a problem and they can't afford to keep him around at that price 158 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:31.919 point given his injury history. So Mike Williams is the guy that got it. 159 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:37.919 What's his average on games played per season? It can't be very high, 160 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:43.279 can't it? And you're right the issue with that. But the issue 161 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.799 with cutting him, though, Fred, is that now he's free to go 162 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:54.159 anywhere he wants to he's free to land at a spot that, let's face 163 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.600 it, he can he's free to land out a spot that you might have 164 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:01.639 to face him twice a year, you might have to face him on a 165 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:07.840 regular basis. And you know that incentive factor to going for Mike Williams to 166 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.080 go to a place like that and to have a big game against your former 167 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:15.440 team is very, very high, rather than having the ability to trade him 168 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.679 to say as someone out of the division and out of the conference. So 169 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.159 that's that's gonna be the thing, because you know, in the back of 170 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.679 your mind, you're always gonna think, if you're an organization and we let 171 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.240 that guy go, now he's gonna come back to bite us because he's he's 172 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.840 capable of doing that. Without that question. And by the way, to 173 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.879 answer a question, Rodn and you asked about his a durability. Outside of 174 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.720 last season where he got injured early on, he's been fairly durable. He's 175 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.080 played in sixteen games fifteen, fifteen, sixteen, and then in twenty twenty 176 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.639 two he played in thirteen. Oh, so he's actually been fairly durable. 177 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:50.960 That's more than I thought because the book you got a bad pr agent, 178 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.159 then he gets banged up here and there, but but he plays. He 179 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.600 generally plays because the book out there is that he's not available, that he 180 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:03.799 doesn't. You know, he misses half the season every single year, well 181 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.600 and most recently because again in twenty twenty two he played only thirteen games, 182 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.720 and then last season only played in three. So maybe there's recency bias when 183 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.320 it comes to that. But prior to the last two seasons sixteen fifteen, 184 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.480 fifteen sixteen, Wow, so pretty much every game that is. Yeah, 185 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.960 that's way more than I thought he was was available me too. Wow. 186 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.120 See he does need a new PR guy. Yeah, he does. Bro, 187 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.159 Are you sure about that? Givin Frett, I'm looking at Football Reference. 188 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:39.159 For football Reference, people do this stuff. Right. Didn't seem like, 189 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.399 well, you said the last coach last year he wasn't right, he 190 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.080 was. So this past season he got injured in Week three, so and 191 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.480 it was out for the remainder of the season. The year before he was 192 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.440 available for thirteen games. He played in thirteen games the year before that, 193 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.600 still a lot, which is really still a lot when he talked about sixteen 194 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:56.919 games. Yeah, and then between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one he played 195 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:05.840 in fifteen games. Fifteen games, sixteen games, wow wow wow. If 196 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:11.120 that's it doesn't have nagging injuries that have had that have plagued him, I 197 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:15.360 will say that for sure. So that is a thing. But he does, 198 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.600 he does play through it most of the time. Somebody's getting a pretty 199 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.279 good receiver. Yeah, they are. And Ian Rappaport did say that the 200 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:26.120 Chargers do in tend or at least want to bring him back. Whether or 201 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.799 not he wants to come back on a smaller number, who knows. But 202 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:30.879 it's not because they don't want him. They just didn't want him at that 203 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.879 number. Yeah, the numbers didn't work. Now, if you're him and 204 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.960 he's going to go test it, right, he's got to go test it 205 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.919 now, see see what's out there. But do you want to come back? 206 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.120 You know, it depends on what kind of relationship they really had with 207 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.639 them and how much i'm much of a conversation they really had. Like listen, 208 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.519 this is strictly a numbers thing. We want to get you back, 209 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:58.000 and if if everything goes well, then maybe we can get you a new 210 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.320 a new deal. But at this price point, we cannot keep you. 211 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.080 But keep us in mind because we want to bring you back. Well, 212 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:11.480 their choice was this, is it Williams, Is it Khalil Mack, Is 213 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:16.720 it Joey Boso? Is it Keenan Allen? All Right? Well, you 214 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.519 know all four can play, but I think you've got to do everything you 215 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.440 can to keep Keenan Allen. Yeah, and I think more so than than 216 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.960 those four. I think it was really, do we keep Keenan Allen and 217 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:31.240 we keep Mike Williams all right? And you know, on the other side, 218 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.759 is it do we keep Khalil Mack? Do we keep Joey Bosa? 219 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:37.279 You know, well we still haven't heard about Bosa. No, we haven't 220 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.480 heard about Bosa, but I would lean to think that he may not be 221 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:43.720 there. Really, they might not need to do anything with both. Those 222 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.000 were the Big four, and they really need to get rid of one to 223 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.879 clean up their books. So they've already gotten rid of Williams and they've already 224 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.120 restructured with Khalil Mack. So they might not do anything to me. They 225 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.600 don't want to get anybody else in here, though true if they don't want 226 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.799 to spend big money to bring somebody else until that is true. So, 227 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:03.039 but potentially they could do nothing with Bosa and nothing with Keenan Allen and just 228 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.879 keep him on the roster. And this could be it from who is getting 229 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:11.120 cut or who's getting restructured? Yeah, yeah, but give it again. 230 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:15.240 Maybe you know and I know this. I mean, we're totally off on 231 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.000 Mike Williams in terms of his durability and his availability. So apologies to Mike 232 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:26.240 Williams, but we do know that Joey Bosa has not been available as much 233 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:30.320 over the last few years. Yeah, he's been hurt too. All right, 234 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.799 Well, we're gonna stay on top of this. Uh spring training is 235 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:38.519 it too long? Well some people say yes, some people say no. 236 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:44.600 We'll try to figure it out next Oh. Yes, it is a beautiful 237 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:48.519 Wednesday two hours show for us today, so we are sprinting Rodney Pete, 238 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:55.159 Fred Rogan, let's go all right, we are going to play a little 239 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.120 who is in about eight minutes, so we'll give you a cue to call. 240 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:02.159 And David Vasse joined just top of the one o'clock hour today as he 241 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:07.519 gets ready to head off to Korea. So interesting piece about spring training, 242 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:12.200 and the sentiment is Rodney by some aj Hinch for example, manager of the 243 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:17.519 Tigers six weeks is too long. You don't need six weeks anymore. Ron 244 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:21.119 Washington, manager of the Angels, more old school, I like it. 245 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:26.279 We need six weeks. Hinch makes the point that players come into camp now 246 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.799 in shape and ready to go. More often than not, there's always going 247 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:34.319 to be the old James Harden who works his way into shape when they get 248 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:38.200 going. But most of these guys they're training twelve months a year just to 249 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:48.039 stay in shape. Do you think spring training is too long for baseball? 250 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:52.720 I don't, Actually I don't. I think it's I think it's right off 251 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.319 point for a variety of different reasons. But all of that is true with 252 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:03.319 aj. Hinch is saying that now more spent on your body and training and 253 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:08.240 physical fitness and nutrition than it ever was before. You know, guys in 254 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:11.519 the seventies, yes, they use spring training just like any of sports. 255 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:18.160 Football was one especially, guys didn't do anything until spring training or training camp 256 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:19.720 came around, and they used that six weeks to get ready and get in 257 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:26.599 shape for the season. But guys are training year round. They are in 258 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:33.000 better shape when they come into spring training. The the folks that really needed 259 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.279 are the pitchers to get their arms in shape, and that is necessary I 260 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.680 think for them to ramp up for a season. Otherwise, you know, 261 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:45.160 we'll be well into maybe June before we see pitchers extend themselves. Right now, 262 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.880 you know, they'll take the month of April to kind of ramp up 263 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.480 along with the spring training that's in place now. So if you shorten it, 264 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.920 then that process of regular season games and pitchers and how long they go 265 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:00.599 will be pushed back a little bit. But I don't think baseball is a 266 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:06.839 sport that six weeks is necessary and it's good for number One, for the 267 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:10.559 I think for not even so much. I put the players and they're in 268 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:14.720 shape at the bottom of the list. But for the organizations and all the 269 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:19.240 money that's spent on spring training and these facilities in Arizona and Florida, they've 270 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.960 got to maximize that and they've got to get as much out of those those 271 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.839 six weeks as possible. I mean, people fly from all over the world 272 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:33.079 to be a part of spring training, set up camps, rent airbnbs and 273 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.079 hotel rooms for periods of time just to be a part of spring training. 274 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:41.839 So it's a it's a movement. When March rolls around or late February March 275 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:48.319 rolls around for fans and for organizations to maximize their revenue streams. So from 276 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:51.599 that point alone, I don't think it's going to be shortened. Yeah, 277 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:56.839 I agree, and I think it's the money aspect that you pointed out as 278 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:59.519 to why it's going to remain the way it is. But if you're in 279 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:02.039 shape, you're ready to go when you get your hacks. And as a 280 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.440 hitter pictures different agree, you got to stretch those guys out. They need 281 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.359 more work. But if you're a hitter and you're in shape, you get 282 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:11.720 in there, get your eye back on the ball, you know, get 283 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:15.079 your swings in. You should be ready to go. When you were playing, 284 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:19.440 Now, I you weren't playing when they were leather helmets. I can't 285 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:25.039 remember, not quite. Not quite. They had just eliminated the helmets, 286 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.519 and you know, technology kind of caught up with the game. Okay, 287 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:33.559 but when you were playing, Uh, what was that your outside voice when 288 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:41.079 you were playing? Did guys come to camp in shape? Yeah? Yeah, 289 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:44.920 for the most part, I think that when I came into the league, 290 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.799 it was really that push of where they overdid it right, So it 291 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.680 was now we have an opportunity to get a hold of these guys in March 292 00:20:53.920 --> 00:21:00.200 and in April and in May. So that was the the invention of the 293 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.240 many camps and the off season programs and these OTAs that you hear about is 294 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.680 when I came into the league, and the and the you know, end 295 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.400 of the eighties and early nineties is when you started having teams say, Okay, 296 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:15.559 we're gonna get you get guys together for ten days in March. Then 297 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.720 we're gonna get them for ten days right after the draft, and then in 298 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.559 early June, we're gonna get them together for another ten days. Since that 299 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.000 time, you know, with the Players Association and Collective Bargaining Agreement, they 300 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:29.680 cut that way back and gone back to the other ways of doing it. 301 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:32.400 But when I played, yeah, guys would come in and shape, but 302 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:37.960 they were always there are always that those ones that didn't And remember until my 303 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:41.640 last probably four, yeah, four or five years in the league, we 304 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:48.000 would go to training camp and spend a full two weeks of training camp before 305 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.279 the first preseason game. And now I think they're they're there for about a 306 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.960 week and then preseason starts, and there weren't There's no two days anymore two 307 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:03.000 practices a day like there were back in the in the nineties, so you 308 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.440 you basically and and then there was testing programs, So if you came in 309 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.359 out of shape, there were there were conditioning tests that you had to you 310 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:14.720 had to make and qualify once you got the training camp, and if you 311 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:18.240 didn't, you would get you would get fined, and then on top of 312 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:22.279 that, you would get looked upon a certain way like you're not ready to 313 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:25.240 play. So there was a lot of pressure on you to come into camp 314 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:27.440 in shape. But still, nonetheless there are a lot of guys that still 315 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:30.759 use training camp. Hey, I'm just gonna wait training camp to start eating 316 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:34.720 right and started getting myself in shape. Uh, when you had two a 317 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:40.079 day's was it necessary? And what would you do? I mean because you 318 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.279 hit almost every day, didn't you when you were playing, Yes, pretty 319 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:45.720 much, Yeah, you hit every day. There was there would be a 320 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.000 day that you would take off during that time, but you would hit. 321 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.799 You would hit one practice a day, so one practice would be full on 322 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:59.000 pads and and hitting and grind two and a half hour practice and then usually 323 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:02.079 that would be a more practice and sometimes they flip it up and be the 324 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:04.359 afternoon practice, but one of those friends in the afternoon. If you hit 325 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:08.720 hard in the morning, the afternoon practice would be maybe just shoulder pads and 326 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.799 shorts and just be a little bit lighter, so you didn't get as physical 327 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:15.359 in the afternoon practice to kind of give the guys a little bit of a 328 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.759 break. But it was still a two hour practice and was still a grind 329 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.640 going, you know, getting up at six practicing for two hours, trying 330 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.359 to you know, then you have meetings along with that, you know, 331 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.680 after practice or right before the second practice, and then you got to go 332 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.359 back and practice again just to truly crind. But they don't have that anymore. 333 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:40.480 To two days are illegal now. Yeah, So you asked me if 334 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:47.880 it wasn't necessary. Yeah, no, no, I don't think it's necessary 335 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:49.599 because you get to the point where you start beating a dead horse, and 336 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:55.599 you know, I know it's good to have repetition, but you can get 337 00:23:55.759 --> 00:24:00.279 a lot of things done and what you need to get done without practice seen, 338 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:04.440 you know, six hours a day, you really can. It's it's 339 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:10.000 unnecessary. I think it was just it became and you felt with different teams 340 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:11.160 that I went to, I was, you know, obviously played for six 341 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.640 different teams, so different organizations did it differently. And I was with some 342 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.759 teams that felt that it was necessary to get all that time in. Gotta 343 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.880 have it all, got to have six weeks of training camp, got to 344 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.920 have the meetings, got to have the two and a half hour practices twice 345 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.200 a day. That was the only way to get yourself in shape and get 346 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.440 yourself ready for the season. And we found out it certainly was not the 347 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.680 case. Not the case. All right, Uh, who wants play a 348 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.240 little? Who did I do? All right, Well, you're going to 349 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:47.200 play. It's like six here's the deal. First call up, pick up 350 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.720 the pick up the phone, put you on the air, and you'll play 351 00:24:49.039 --> 00:25:03.000 Rodney and Ronnie. Yeah. Hey, folks, here's an alert. A 352 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:07.480 week from Friday. One week from Friday, it's March twenty second. Riding 353 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:12.519 myself the Gang will be down at Crony's Sports Bar and Newbury Park live from 354 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:17.240 noon to three. Watch those March Madness games, enjoy great food and drinks. 355 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:22.400 Find out why Crony Sports Bar is the best sports grill in Ventura County. 356 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:27.079 The Tales at a five to seven e LA Sports dot Com, Dave 357 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:32.759 and Christine Folds will be down there. Place is always packed, always packed 358 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.960 out too. Yeah, if you want a seat inside. Now, the 359 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.359 patio is great. You can hear everything, you can be a part of 360 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.119 it. And the patio's beautiful there and they'll take carries and don't worry about 361 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:45.920 that. But if you want to see it inside. When I say you 362 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.599 should get there early, I am not exaggerating. You should get there early, 363 00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:57.200 otherwise you'll be outside of the nice patio. You enjoin the program with 364 00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:02.759 you Fred's face, Kevin. We're giving away prizes, right, we will. 365 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:04.519 I don't have what those prizes are quite yet, but anytime those are 366 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.920 Rogan and Rodney remote. There are giveaways. So all right, I have 367 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:15.880 that's look forward to. Well there is whatever. We're very a very giving 368 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.559 show. I like to say that we are that we are. We live 369 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:25.039 to give. Yeah, all right, Sean and Coaster Mace are you there 370 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:33.759 here? So it's beyond guys, well Sean show. Oh I'm ready. 371 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.680 I can't believe I got through. This is awesome. Okay, cool, 372 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:37.720 no, Sean, right, oh, Sean, let's do this thing. 373 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.279 Sean, who dis no rules, no rules, and who dis when you 374 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:44.680 know it you're yelling out. You have a challenge. Use your challenge to 375 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.960 held you retain it. Use your challenge. It's denied. You're locked out 376 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.839 of the next question. You got it, got it all right, Ronnie? 377 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.160 Are we ready to go? Greetings Rogan and Rodney. I am ready 378 00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.680 to go. It's got to work. I made nine Pro Bowls in my 379 00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:03.599 Pro Football Hall of Fame career. Eric Dickerson incorrect, Richard Ditt No, 380 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:15.480 ray Lewis Singletary both the wrong. Charles Woodson no, Steve Young Nope, 381 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.799 Joe Mont There you go, Ronnie, you both said it. You're both 382 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.640 wrong. I left the NFL in passing yards five times and in passing jog 383 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:27.720 three times. Aidan Manning No, Eli Manning. No. Dan Marino, 384 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.799 Yes, Rodney, it is Dad. Yeah, Danny boy doesn't get enough 385 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:40.799 love. Yeah you know what he doesn't. No, he doesn't. A 386 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:45.240 great quarterback, great great you talk about, Oh, you know this guy's 387 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.720 got arm talent. That guy's got back and Patrick Mahomes got this great arm 388 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.920 talent. Aaron Rodgers, Oh my god, he throws a bubble. Dan 389 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.519 Marino, go just go watch some highlights of Dan Marino throw the football. 390 00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.880 He was a bad man. All right, here's the next one. I 391 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.759 am a four time pro bowler and made my only first team All Pro team 392 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:12.000 in twenty twenty. Todd Gurley, no Jayleen Ramsey, no Jared Goff, 393 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:21.000 Aaron Donald, no Cooper Cup, no Allen no Max Crosby, Justin Herbert. 394 00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:25.440 Nope. I let the NFL and rushing yards and rushing touchdowns in twenty 395 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:30.039 nineteen and twenty twenty. Oh, Henry, Yes, Sean has got it 396 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:37.759 first. Wait? Wait, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? You 397 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.839 said that like nobody else said anything. No, I said, Sean got 398 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.079 it first. Yes, I know. I didn't hear anybody about it. 399 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:53.200 That was automatic. I don't know. All right, An guess I feel 400 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:59.960 like there's a challenge coming Sean. I'm not gonna let it feel against him. 401 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.880 So are you not gonna let it go? Because Freddy was? I 402 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.319 was gonna let it go, but fred was so just nonchalant that nobody else 403 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.319 answered other than Sean almost got a challenge it, man, Are you using 404 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.839 your sh Wait? Are you using your challenge? Yeah? Because I know 405 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.599 you're not gonna get me a booze. So yeah, I'm using my challenge? 406 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.920 Why not? Are you sure you want to use your challenge? Yes? 407 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.559 Fred? Is that your final answer? Okay? How many times you 408 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.000 gotta answer? I am? How many times you gotta ask me? Man? 409 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.359 I can't go back on it now, and I know the rules. 410 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.039 I know I'm going to be locked out now, but you gotta do it. 411 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.680 If I said it, I'm gonna do it. Kevin, go ahead. 412 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.440 I let the NFL and rushing yards and rushing touchdowns in twenty nineteen and 413 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:52.720 twenty twenty. Oh Rick Henry, Oh shot, I got you? I 414 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.519 got you? You did you? Did? He? Stand up? Guy? 415 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:02.079 Gotta do it all right? So Rodney's locked out of this one. 416 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.440 I made a Pro Bowls in my Hall of Fame football career. Eric Dickerson. 417 00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:14.799 No, Joe Montana, no, ray Lewis No, no Brett Fare 418 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:21.599 no Drew Brees No. I led the NFL receptions and receiving yards twice. 419 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:30.759 Jerry Rice No, my son is likely going to be the first receiver taken 420 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:37.519 in this year's NFL draft. Oh Edwin James No, wow, wow, 421 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.680 yeah you go? John? Here you go? Ronnie? Where are you 422 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.920 at? I blanked on the one I blanked on that one. I thought 423 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:55.759 it was close. Mum, hey, Sean John, you were in the 424 00:30:55.799 --> 00:31:02.160 ballpark. Did you say Edwin James? I did? He did. You 425 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:08.640 want to know something? His son plays college basketball and it's pretty good. 426 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:17.680 Yeah, Edrian Jameson's got him play. M h uh huh like that I 427 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.640 have, Yeah, he can, he can play a little bit. Kenny, 428 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.799 Yeah, who's he played for? I can't remember? You know why? 429 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:32.200 No, you know why he was playing. I was watching Kansas State, 430 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.720 uh huh. And I can't remember the team he was playing for. 431 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:44.160 I think Kansas State lost the game. But he could play. And he 432 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.400 looks just like him. He's at Cincinnati there it is that Cronin's old stomping 433 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.960 ground. Ye, Naddy okay. And his name is a picture of hi 434 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:55.160 Keviedy looks just like his son's just like Eddrian. You're correct. And his 435 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.200 name is Jizsel. That was and is not a nickname. Roddie has given 436 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:06.359 name Wizzle James. Stop it, yes, please stop it, true Sizzle 437 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.960 James. All right, here's your next one. I made nine AL All 438 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:21.920 Star teams in my career. Who Rodney George Erlander? I said, you're 439 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:28.240 right, what how does that what, Rodney. You sounds so surprised. 440 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:38.279 Wow. Yeah, I don't think in the years we've done this, you've 441 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:43.119 ever even mentioned that name. Oh yes I have. Yeah, yeah, 442 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.480 I've heard him. I've heard him say Justin Erlander in the past. We've 443 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:50.240 had him a few times. Yeah, that's definitely you know what it is. 444 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:54.559 But it's like, it's like episode eight of the Dynasty. Have you 445 00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:00.920 watched that Dynasty with the New England Patriots. It's really it's a really good 446 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:07.079 watch. Yeah. So episode eight is after the flate gate, after the 447 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.759 flight gate, where Brady had to was suspended for the first four games and 448 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.359 pissed off at the league, pissed off at Roger Goodell, and they all 449 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:22.200 talked about when he comes back, he's gonna be pissed off and everybody better 450 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.599 be unnoticed. And sure enough, that's the year they went and went to 451 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:30.359 Super Bowl and beat Atlanta and Roger Goodell had to give him the trophy at 452 00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:34.119 the end as MVP, and it was an awkward thing. But yeah, 453 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.799 you locking me out made me pissed off. That's why I came back like 454 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:43.359 I did with a vengeance of Justin Erlander. Nice, I thought Roger was 455 00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:50.000 talking about the old what the Joan Collins and John Forsyth Dynasty. Yeah, 456 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.119 but you're not old enough to know that. You get old enough to remember 457 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.039 Dynasty like that. My grandmother watched it. That's the only reason why I 458 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.599 know it. That was a great show, though, wasn't it all? 459 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:07.119 Anything was great? Yeah? I don't care what you wor the cowboy hat. 460 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.280 What was the main guy in Dynasty? J Are Ewing? No, 461 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:15.679 that was Dallas that you got your shows confused there, Sean the spinoff? 462 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.599 No, I think the spinoff was Nott's Landing, wasn't it. That's right 463 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.119 from Dallas? Yeah, with Joan van Ark Dallas? With who John van 464 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.159 Arc? That? Fred? Was that the like? Was that the lead 465 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.199 female character blonde lady? Blond lady? Okay, yeah, yeah, because 466 00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.559 she was married to a reporter Channel four John Marshall never heard of really? 467 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:44.440 Yeah, Oh, she's she's great. Any relation of Mike Marshall, Fred, 468 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:49.280 Yeah, no, No, no relation to Mike Marshall. All right, 469 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.280 here's the next one. And Rodney, boy, you know you're setting 470 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.119 that story up, you're telling it. Got to tell you you really went 471 00:34:55.119 --> 00:35:00.639 a long way to get to the point why you around the corner, in 472 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.119 the corner, around the band, over the hill, the grandmother's house. 473 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.480 To get where are we going? What we don't have? Me just had 474 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:07.559 to get the Dynasty. I watched it last night, so it was really 475 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.559 good. I had to get that in all right, here we go. 476 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:13.880 I was the first round pick by the Nuggets in nineteen ninety eight, but 477 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:19.880 was traded by the Lakers on draft day. Who Alex English? No Carmelo 478 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.519 Al both the wrong? Wait a minute, did you even finish the question? 479 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.679 Fred I was the first round picked by the Nuggets in ninety eight, 480 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:32.480 traded to the Lakers on draft day. Oh, Derek Fisher, No Kobe 481 00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:45.239 Briot No. I won two NBA titles with the lakersmar Odem augustav no I 482 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.239 won an NBA title as a head coach in twenty sixteen. Tyler Tylan was 483 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:54.400 correct. Ronnie's who it is? Ronnie? You can jump in and whenever 484 00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:59.519 you want. I just did a Didn't I get it right? Rodney? 485 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.239 Now you asked him, smart ass? You asked him if Freddie can get 486 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.880 finished with the question, and he doesn't have to get finished with the question, 487 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:13.239 you smart ass, mother, Easy Rodney, Right, listen, take 488 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:17.920 another sip of green tea. Gets your games right, foolio. Wow, 489 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:25.079 Rodney trying to take it a little bit personal. There, Rodney, just 490 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:29.400 a game riding right, It's just a games right, Ronnie gets games right. 491 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:30.559 Let's move on, Fred, I'm doing this a long time. Come 492 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:34.719 on, man, all right, you better than that. No, i'd 493 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.719 well, we'll put Rodney has two, Sean has two, Ronnie has one. 494 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.360 Here is the final question. I made two All Star teams in my 495 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:50.400 thirteen year MLB career. Justin Turner No, oh, Clayton Curser, Peter 496 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:55.280 Peter nos No, Alex Rodriguez, no, Big Poppy, not the Poppy 497 00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:02.239 Manny Ramirez, Poppy, not Rameira's Clayton Kershaw. No. I won two 498 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:08.960 World Series titles with the Dodgers, two of them. Ron Say, Steve 499 00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:20.159 Garvey, Dusty Baker, No, Fernando No, no, Steve Jeger No, 500 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:28.360 Mike soosha. And there it is, Mike sure Rodney. So here's 501 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:32.159 the way he finished. Didn't win, Leo neither? Did you settle down? 502 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.320 All right? So here you all right, let's let's everybody relax. 503 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:43.320 Yeah, rod let's go leave. Rodney. We end in a three way 504 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:47.599 tie Sean Rodney and Ronnie so Seawan, good job, Sean, hanging in 505 00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.320 so good about that stuff. Good stuff, Sean, Thank you guys, 506 00:37:53.320 --> 00:38:00.440 what stuff up thinking. I'll try to get in again. Appreciate you guys. 507 00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:07.559 We appreciate it you too. Next hour, David Vasse will join us. 508 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.199 Then he I don't know if he'll go right to the airport. They're 509 00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.239 leaving tomorrow, so I don't know if he's going to go directly to the 510 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.400 airport after he talks to us, but he will talk to us before he 511 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:22.960 gets on the plane for Korea. And that's coming up, all right. 512 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.639 We continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on a five seventy LA Sports. 513 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.719 Dodgers are headed off to Korea tomorrow, but they've got a game going on 514 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.400 against the Mariners right now. David Vassy is at the game and we bring 515 00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:39.079 him on live. Dave, good afternoon to you. Yoshi Yama Moto. 516 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:46.800 Yes, probably the best ending of pitching I've seen from Yamamoto this spring. 517 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.599 He had that fast fall and so that's the Yama Moto we've heard about. 518 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.599 Yeah, I love it, Hey, Dave, you know there was that 519 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.639 outside noise about him, you know, tipping pitches and things like that, 520 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:06.280 and they what what did the Dodgers think about that? Have they mentioned that? 521 00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:08.840 Is that a big deal or they don't even are they just not even 522 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.239 really addressing it at this point. Yeah, it's not a deal, right, 523 00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:20.880 I know, yes, but when they identified that they could see the 524 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:25.440 ball. Nobody was at second base. So unless another team is due the 525 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:31.199 seventh sin Astro's deal, that's a moot point. Now if he's tipping while 526 00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:37.320 he's out of the stretch and there was yeah, okay, great, you 527 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:44.800 could see, Uh, there's nobody at second Basely right, all right, 528 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:46.320 you know what, Dave, we're going to call you back because you're breaking 529 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:50.079 up, Kevin, give them a call back. We'll try to get back 530 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.320 out because the signal's not great. Well, you know, Rick Monday pointed 531 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.639 that out in his first outing, that you could see what he's doing. 532 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:02.239 But perhaps they have had a conversation and despite the fact he doesn't really like 533 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:07.039 pitch it from the stretch, and we learned that today, he mowed down 534 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.719 the first three Mariners he faced. I'm sure they'll work on that when he 535 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.840 gets to the stretch. Rodney. Yeah, or it could be not a 536 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.519 big deal. Or it could be a situation where they looked at it and 537 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.760 it's not Oh maybe he's not really tipping his pitches and it's something different, 538 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.679 you know what I'm saying. So who knows, But I'm sure as much 539 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:31.039 self scouting and as much Dodgers do and video that's out there, you know, 540 00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:36.159 if if if they put it this way, they would have probably noticed 541 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.280 it as well. All right, David, Given spring training, they would 542 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:44.519 have noticed it. I'm here, okay, all right, Yeah, you 543 00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:49.000 were breaking up before. That's all all right, Gavin l No, I 544 00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.239 understand. Sorry to bother you to day. He is sitting in his on 545 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.559 his couch at home, you know, on a landline. No, he's 546 00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:00.239 at the game doing work, multitasking. I know he is, and he 547 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:07.400 does work. Get out of here, alright, I'm sorry, it's out, 548 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.960 Gavin. Luck shaky at second base so far, Dave, How does 549 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:19.119 the Dodgers feel about this? Well, it was even shakier at shortstop, 550 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.320 and that's why they moved him to second base. And the bottom line is, 551 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:28.199 if he doesn't hit, he's not going to be smart. So the 552 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:37.119 breath outright is because he has looked at the plate they're keeping for offense. 553 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:51.480 You know what it's like right now? All right, Well, this is 554 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.239 sad because we wanted to hear all about Dave's upcoming plans for Korea, but 555 00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:00.599 we can't really hear Dave. He's at the ballpark. Fit the the ballpark, 556 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.280 and there's probably a lot of traffic as the Dodgers get ready to go 557 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:08.960 to Korea. Probably a lot of interference going on out there in Arizona. 558 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.760 All right, well, you know what we'll have to do. We'll just 559 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.679 have all here. He's back again. All right, day were you there 560 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:29.480 this time? He never left? He never left? All right? Kevin? 561 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:34.880 Is is that it for Dave? Okay? Kevin's and he's resigned to 562 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.679 it. Oh no, and I We'll just let him go. That's what 563 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.559 it is. It is what it is. Sometimes, you know. I'm 564 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.480 excited for him though. He's going to getting ready to go to Korea. 565 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.599 Uh. That's going to be a great trip, you know, for them 566 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.199 to be over there. And we talked about it earlier, Fred them to 567 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.559 go a little bit early. It feels like to you know, see the 568 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.159 country a little bit, see the city a little bit, also play some 569 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.679 games, some international games. Uh, it's just gonna be a great trip 570 00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:01.480 for those Dodgers and the people that are going over there. How do you 571 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:07.400 think they'll react to Otani? Oh, I think they'll react huge to him. 572 00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:13.079 I think it's it's going to be incredible, you know, it's I 573 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.760 think, first of all, he's a he's a global, global superstar, 574 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.679 so no matter where you're from or what country. And I think he is 575 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:27.320 a well known player, well known superstar, so and especially in that part 576 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.159 of the world, he's a big, big deal, more so than over 577 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:36.199 here. So I think he's going to get a tremendous welcome when the Dodgers 578 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.079 land and he comes up to the plate. Yeah. The thing is, 579 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.840 he transcends you know, he is Michael Jordan, he is Tiger Woods. 580 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.039 Because of who he is, he transcends his sport, and very few people 581 00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.559 do. We've talked about this in the past. You know, you can 582 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:55.519 be the greatest in any given sport. That doesn't mean you transcend to the 583 00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:02.000 general public. But Michael Jordan did Tiger Woods did. I think Arnold Palmer 584 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.880 and Jack Nicholas did, and I think Otani does two. Even if you 585 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.320 don't know he plays baseball, you know, who he is and at that 586 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.480 point in time, you have transcended Rodney. Yeah, that's it. If 587 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.000 you don't know baseball, you still know who he is, then you know 588 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:21.840 you have And can you think of a can you think of a player now, 589 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:27.880 current player right now that transcends like that or is global like that? 590 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:34.880 Maybe Lebron James right now is the one out there. What else can you 591 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:39.000 think that is a global icon? Okay, well we could look at football 592 00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.719 and say Pat Mahomes, but I don't think so. No, I don't 593 00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.440 think so because football is not such a global sport. I mean it is 594 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.280 big, don't get me wrong, and it's grown every single year, and 595 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.480 football is king and king in a lot of places. You just listen to 596 00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:58.440 all the broadcasts of the Super Bowl around the different countries. You can understand 597 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.039 how big football is around the world, even in countries that don't play it. 598 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:08.000 But I just I don't think Patrick Mahomes is on the Lebron James level. 599 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:14.679 When you talk about global maybe messy MESSI yeah, maybe about it definitely. 600 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.000 Yeah. You saw when he came here to Miami. I mean in 601 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:22.440 a country that doesn't I mean celebrated soccer as much as they do in South 602 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.920 America or Europe. Uh. He came here. It was a phenomenon and 603 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:32.159 so yeah, definitely definitely messy. Nobody in hockey, nobody right now in 604 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.960 hockey. Huh. I don't think anybody in hockey. I mean there are 605 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.000 great players, I don't think they transcend that Sid the kid ever transcend like 606 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.320 that? No he didn't. No, I don't think it's the level. 607 00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.960 No. No, he certainly transcended to the levels in Canada and here, 608 00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.960 But no, I don't think worldwide globally. No. Yeah, basketball Lebron 609 00:45:55.239 --> 00:46:00.440 Steph Curry or no, No, now you would be a tear down on 610 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:09.760 Steph Curry. I think to a song big big, but not globally it 611 00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:15.280 would be a Lebron James thing. More so, then you're right anecdotal evalence 612 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:16.400 on my part. So I went on a trip with some friends of mine. 613 00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:20.639 We went to Croatia about four years ago, and we're walking and one 614 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.239 of my best friends is he's he's seven he's seven foot you know, seven 615 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.960 foot one. He's pretty tall. It looks like a bride basketball player and 616 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.360 he played in college in high school And they said, do you know Steph 617 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.400 Curry there's a little kid from Croatia And the first thing they asked is that 618 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.960 do you play basketball? Are you American? And do you know Steph Curry 619 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.039 didn't ask about Lebron James. Now. I know we're talk talking about global 620 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.679 sponsorships and all that stuff, but to a certain degree, Steph has some 621 00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:46.079 international appeal for sure. They didn't ask me about Yeah, but they do 622 00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.639 have. You know a lot of guys have international appeal depending where you are. 623 00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.039 But just talking about if country go country by country around the globe, 624 00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:00.119 I think Lebron James names will come up first before anybody else's. Can I 625 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:07.320 just read a quick tweet? I just checked. No, you know the 626 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:15.679 tweet? You know the tweet, don't You got a tweet from Holly Robinson 627 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.719 Pete who listens to the show. And by the way, yes, Holly, 628 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.119 thanks for listening every day. Now, if you don't think she listens 629 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:29.039 every day, she does because she usually listens in the other room and if 630 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:34.000 Rotney has said something or seems to be a little off on something, I 631 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.960 have the ability to see her and see her run in and talk. Yes, 632 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:45.400 well you know, so this this listener a p one Holly Robinson Peete 633 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.639 tweets the show. Fortunately, Fritz, you have it, you know on 634 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.320 you know, the house is hooked up to everything, so Google, she 635 00:47:52.440 --> 00:48:00.800 says, a Google play Rogan and Rodney. It goes around the house sometimes. 636 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:02.639 So I walk into the bathroom and I hear her voices playing. She's 637 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.280 like wit in the world. Yeah, and she also listens in the car 638 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.280 to be fair, Yes, yes she does. Here's her tweet. Wow, 639 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:17.639 Rodney is wound pretty tight today. Damn, what's wrong. I'm gonna 640 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:24.519 have to have a talk with her. Yeah like that normally maybe I am, 641 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:30.000 Maybe I'm not. You know, let me do my soul. Woman, 642 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.960 I'm sure you don't want us to dump that. And there's still time' 643 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:43.039 she core'd you cut us? All right? We've got the haiku coming up 644 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.119 here in a minute, and before we get into VIC, we will discuss 645 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:49.920 the Lakers upcoming game tonight and what happened to the Clippers last night.