All right, let's go Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete and five to seventy l
a sports two hours for us today. Uh, David Vassy will join us
at the top of the one o'clock hour and it will be our final conversation
with him boards the plane to Korea. Would he want to be on that
trip for it? Yeah, wouldn't that be just a just a fun trip
to be on. And look, look at the way the Dodgers do it.
They don't play it till next week. Let's get in there early,
Let's get acclimated to the time change, Let's have some fun, Let's look
around, Let's make a trip out of it. It's a trip. But
aren't they but they're playing uh, they're playing exhibition games first though, aren't
they They're going early? Yeah, I mean just to kind of get their
feet wet. Yeah, but still yeah, you know, they'll be able
to go around, see Soul, see Korea. It'll be great for him.
When is the one of the padres going? You know, I don't
know, I don't know. I thought they all had to be there on
the same time. Aren't they playing some uh some expo games too. Here's
the problem with the Padres. If you remember what happened last year because they
lost their TV deal and then spent all the money they did on players.
Oh no, they probably don't have any money to go early. They going
on Spirit. Yeah, I think they're going Spirit, and I think they
can only stay three nights in a hotel. Oh oh at Motel six.
Yeah, they have one of O's and Soul. Yeah. Oh, they've
got everything there. I stayed at the Hotel et one, the new no
oh no, not no, not the Hotel et one, the Hotel et
one. And then where you got your suit That's where I got my suits.
The old Tani the new Otani Hotel. Oh, that's where I stayed,
the new Otani. We got a hotel there too. I didn't know
he was in the hotel business guys everywhere. That was what it was called,
the New Otani Hotel because they replaced the old Otani Hotel. So I
think that's what it was called. Really mm hmmm. Yeah. So it
was nice, Oh beautiful, It was incredible. Korea was great. I
can't say the same for Beijing, but Korea was great. That was a
different trip. Yeah, Beijing is when they got both the guns on you
like popped out of the grass. Right. No, no, no,
no, it was just because he went to the wrong forbidden place and he
stepped on the grass when he wasn't stepped on the grass. Yeah, and
they got me. So that wasn't with signs they don't step on the grass,
clearly told you don't step on the ground, clearly with with security saying
don't step on the grass, don't do it. That was there, don't
do it. And of course little Freddy, a little bad ass Freddy Rogan
got to step on the grass. I went on there, always that bad
kid Kevin in every class I went aways, Yeah, no Kevin. That
did happen in Korea, but that was on me in Beijing. It was
very different. Before we went to Beijing, NBC would have the seminars and
Dick Eversaw would speak and he said, look in China, and they always
warned everybody. I mean, we're all adults, we know how to behave,
but we always are we doing all adults and do we all know how
to behave? Let's put it like this. We were adults, we were
adults, and we knew how to behave. But he said, by the
way, if the police pick you up here, because when you go to
a foreign country with NBC and you do the Olympics, you know there are
some accommodations made if something you got a little cloub go along with NBC.
Yeah, not so in Beijing. If anything happened to you, if the
police picked you up, they could hold you. I think it was for
seventy two hours before they told anybody they had you. And he warned everybody,
so if you go missing, we'll probably know where you're at, and
they're under no obligation to tell us they've got you. So if you go
missing, though, if you go missing and your people are worried about you,
friends, family, whomever is worried about you, can you inquire to
the to the authorities and say, may my guy's missing, can you check
on him? Or if they just simply don't have to tell anybody anything for
seventy two hours. From what he said, they don't have to tell anybody
anything for seventy two hours. Even if you ask, they don't have to
tell you. That's well, that's what he said. Now. I don't
know if it's changed since we were in Beijing, but those were the rules
in and everybody, you know, he would stand up before everyone but games
and explain that we are visitors in their country, and also suggested we don't
act like the Americans. We can act like true you know, the arrogant
Americans when we travel right. He would stand up there in front of everybody
and say that just to make sure everybody behaves, which is a shame that
he would have to even say that. But we, like I said,
there's always one at least one in every group that I don't see the rules.
You challenge the rules, see how far they can go. All those
things always going to be one or two. I never because when you did
it for the network, I mean you were basically they took you everywhere,
They took care of you. You really had very little time on your own
because if you wanted to do something, you asked and then they would take
you there. So I couldn't figure out how any of us could ever get
into trouble. But nonetheless he suggested that. He even said, when you're
waiting to check into the venue, because everybody has to go through the metal
detector and security, don't rush, don't push it, take your time.
It's a slower pace of life in every country we ever traveled to. Don't
say this is ridiculous or this is terrible. Don't make any comments like that.
Go with the flow, right, Yeah, And that's why when you
were assigned to a venue and so for the Summer Games were a good portion
of him. I did boxing, and of course the Winter Games I did
curling. They would want us at the venue three hours early, three just
to make sure. And if you walked in straight in and there was no
line, and there never was three hours early, then you were there.
That was another rule. You better not miss where you're supposed to be.
That was another be late, don't miss, don't don't you dare leave yourself
enough time, is what he's saying. You know, if he had his
way, we would have slept there. Do not. I'm serious, He
warned everybody. If if you're how much did you really listen to that?
Fred? How much did you listen? And then part of it went in
one ear and out the other? No, I listened to We all know
you, Fred, We all know you like to put some test the boundaries.
You're going doors that you're not supposed to go in. I know,
No I listened here Hemograss years ago NBC would have like a three day seminar
before all the Olympic Games. And uh I remember before the Salt Lake Games.
We were in Salt Lake. It would be in a giant ballroom.
Everybody that was working on the Olympics would be there, so the production people,
the air people, everybody would be in this giant room. Dick Eversoll
and David Neil and David Neil now oversees Fox Sports coverage of soccer. They
would get up and the thing would be like three days long, and they
would have these seminars. They would show tapes of what to do, what
not to do, They would have video of guys that made mistakes and explain
why. They would cut out press clippings and show them about the anticipation for
the games. And I'll be honest with you, they went on for a
while. They were long. It was like three hours in the morning,
three hours in the afternoon, and you were sitting in this giant ballroom and
they were filling the time. Now, by the way, they do it
like in fifteen minutes, because they don't spend money like that anymore. Hey,
everybody knows a drill. Don't screw up. Go all right? Read
it for yourself. Right, But back then they'd have these giant seminars.
So what would happen But people would fall asleep. They would fall asleep in
the seminar because it was for you. Oh I didn't And here's why.
Here's why. If you had been to a few of those you knew something.
You better not fall asleep because they got people in the back with notebooks
and if you fall asleep, they write your name down. Are they really
they were checking to see if people fell trode me that two hours? Yeah,
oh yeah, they had people checking to make sure he didn't fall asleep.
They had it all covered. They knew what they were doing, all
right. So we'll we'll talk to Dave about his soon trip to Korea.
Coming up at one o'clock. So we know teams got to get down to
the NFL, and the Chargers had a dilemma on their hands. I mean,
Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa, Mike Williams Uh made a lot of money.
They're over the cap and they're in trouble, so somehow, some way
they have to correct it. Keenan Allen makes a lot of money as well.
So now you look at those four guys. Of those four guys,
and you go, which one can we afford to let go? Well,
you can't really afford to let Khalil Mack go. So he's staying. Yes,
he restructured his deal, so he's in. He's good. He's in,
and he had a really good year last year, right, so he's
in. He made it. He made the cut. I haven't heard.
I don't know if you have yet about Joey Bosa. I have not,
Okay, I have not, because he was another one, you know,
and you ran down the list. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Khalil Mack,
Joey Bowson were really the four, yeah, that had the big contracts
that were gonna it was gonna be a big hit. And I initially my
first reaction as well, same as most people and same as what they did,
is Khalil Mack is probably gonna stay. If anybody is, probably gonna
be Bosa because he's been hurt the last few years and they haven't had him,
he hasn't been available for him. It's probably Bosa's gonna be the odd
guy out. Okay. And if they had to do two, then yeah,
the one that got it the one that got it. Okay, so
we don't know about Bosa, we've not heard about Keenan Allen. But the
one that's definitely gone is Mike Williams. That's the guy they cut. Now
here's the problem. When you cut Mike Williams, you're cutting a guy that,
if healthy, and you can you can argue this with me if you
want Rodney, if healthy, could be a top three receiver in the game.
Top yeah, maybe top six, say top three, but we're gonna
put him in the top ten. It we'll put him in top ten.
Yeah, went healthy, it's went healthy yet. But that's the caveat went
healthy because since he got here, he gets hurt and it's you know,
it's not like he's running around on a motorcycle. He's hurt on the field
and that's a problem and they can't afford to keep him around at that price
point given his injury history. So Mike Williams is the guy that got it.
What's his average on games played per season? It can't be very high,
can't it? And you're right the issue with that. But the issue
with cutting him, though, Fred, is that now he's free to go
anywhere he wants to he's free to land at a spot that, let's face
it, he can he's free to land out a spot that you might have
to face him twice a year, you might have to face him on a
regular basis. And you know that incentive factor to going for Mike Williams to
go to a place like that and to have a big game against your former
team is very, very high, rather than having the ability to trade him
to say as someone out of the division and out of the conference. So
that's that's gonna be the thing, because you know, in the back of
your mind, you're always gonna think, if you're an organization and we let
that guy go, now he's gonna come back to bite us because he's he's
capable of doing that. Without that question. And by the way, to
answer a question, Rodn and you asked about his a durability. Outside of
last season where he got injured early on, he's been fairly durable. He's
played in sixteen games fifteen, fifteen, sixteen, and then in twenty twenty
two he played in thirteen. Oh, so he's actually been fairly durable.
That's more than I thought because the book you got a bad pr agent,
then he gets banged up here and there, but but he plays. He
generally plays because the book out there is that he's not available, that he
doesn't. You know, he misses half the season every single year, well
and most recently because again in twenty twenty two he played only thirteen games,
and then last season only played in three. So maybe there's recency bias when
it comes to that. But prior to the last two seasons sixteen fifteen,
fifteen sixteen, Wow, so pretty much every game that is. Yeah,
that's way more than I thought he was was available me too. Wow.
See he does need a new PR guy. Yeah, he does. Bro,
Are you sure about that? Givin Frett, I'm looking at Football Reference.
For football Reference, people do this stuff. Right. Didn't seem like,
well, you said the last coach last year he wasn't right, he
was. So this past season he got injured in Week three, so and
it was out for the remainder of the season. The year before he was
available for thirteen games. He played in thirteen games the year before that,
still a lot, which is really still a lot when he talked about sixteen
games. Yeah, and then between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one he played
in fifteen games. Fifteen games, sixteen games, wow wow wow. If
that's it doesn't have nagging injuries that have had that have plagued him, I
will say that for sure. So that is a thing. But he does,
he does play through it most of the time. Somebody's getting a pretty
good receiver. Yeah, they are. And Ian Rappaport did say that the
Chargers do in tend or at least want to bring him back. Whether or
not he wants to come back on a smaller number, who knows. But
it's not because they don't want him. They just didn't want him at that
number. Yeah, the numbers didn't work. Now, if you're him and
he's going to go test it, right, he's got to go test it
now, see see what's out there. But do you want to come back?
You know, it depends on what kind of relationship they really had with
them and how much i'm much of a conversation they really had. Like listen,
this is strictly a numbers thing. We want to get you back,
and if if everything goes well, then maybe we can get you a new
a new deal. But at this price point, we cannot keep you.
But keep us in mind because we want to bring you back. Well,
their choice was this, is it Williams, Is it Khalil Mack, Is
it Joey Boso? Is it Keenan Allen? All Right? Well, you
know all four can play, but I think you've got to do everything you
can to keep Keenan Allen. Yeah, and I think more so than than
those four. I think it was really, do we keep Keenan Allen and
we keep Mike Williams all right? And you know, on the other side,
is it do we keep Khalil Mack? Do we keep Joey Bosa?
You know, well we still haven't heard about Bosa. No, we haven't
heard about Bosa, but I would lean to think that he may not be
there. Really, they might not need to do anything with both. Those
were the Big four, and they really need to get rid of one to
clean up their books. So they've already gotten rid of Williams and they've already
restructured with Khalil Mack. So they might not do anything to me. They
don't want to get anybody else in here, though true if they don't want
to spend big money to bring somebody else until that is true. So,
but potentially they could do nothing with Bosa and nothing with Keenan Allen and just
keep him on the roster. And this could be it from who is getting
cut or who's getting restructured? Yeah, yeah, but give it again.
Maybe you know and I know this. I mean, we're totally off on
Mike Williams in terms of his durability and his availability. So apologies to Mike
Williams, but we do know that Joey Bosa has not been available as much
over the last few years. Yeah, he's been hurt too. All right,
Well, we're gonna stay on top of this. Uh spring training is
it too long? Well some people say yes, some people say no.
We'll try to figure it out next Oh. Yes, it is a beautiful
Wednesday two hours show for us today, so we are sprinting Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan, let's go all right, we are going to play a little
who is in about eight minutes, so we'll give you a cue to call.
And David Vasse joined just top of the one o'clock hour today as he
gets ready to head off to Korea. So interesting piece about spring training,
and the sentiment is Rodney by some aj Hinch for example, manager of the
Tigers six weeks is too long. You don't need six weeks anymore. Ron
Washington, manager of the Angels, more old school, I like it.
We need six weeks. Hinch makes the point that players come into camp now
in shape and ready to go. More often than not, there's always going
to be the old James Harden who works his way into shape when they get
going. But most of these guys they're training twelve months a year just to
stay in shape. Do you think spring training is too long for baseball?
I don't, Actually I don't. I think it's I think it's right off
point for a variety of different reasons. But all of that is true with
aj. Hinch is saying that now more spent on your body and training and
physical fitness and nutrition than it ever was before. You know, guys in
the seventies, yes, they use spring training just like any of sports.
Football was one especially, guys didn't do anything until spring training or training camp
came around, and they used that six weeks to get ready and get in
shape for the season. But guys are training year round. They are in
better shape when they come into spring training. The the folks that really needed
are the pitchers to get their arms in shape, and that is necessary I
think for them to ramp up for a season. Otherwise, you know,
we'll be well into maybe June before we see pitchers extend themselves. Right now,
you know, they'll take the month of April to kind of ramp up
along with the spring training that's in place now. So if you shorten it,
then that process of regular season games and pitchers and how long they go
will be pushed back a little bit. But I don't think baseball is a
sport that six weeks is necessary and it's good for number One, for the
I think for not even so much. I put the players and they're in
shape at the bottom of the list. But for the organizations and all the
money that's spent on spring training and these facilities in Arizona and Florida, they've
got to maximize that and they've got to get as much out of those those
six weeks as possible. I mean, people fly from all over the world
to be a part of spring training, set up camps, rent airbnbs and
hotel rooms for periods of time just to be a part of spring training.
So it's a it's a movement. When March rolls around or late February March
rolls around for fans and for organizations to maximize their revenue streams. So from
that point alone, I don't think it's going to be shortened. Yeah,
I agree, and I think it's the money aspect that you pointed out as
to why it's going to remain the way it is. But if you're in
shape, you're ready to go when you get your hacks. And as a
hitter pictures different agree, you got to stretch those guys out. They need
more work. But if you're a hitter and you're in shape, you get
in there, get your eye back on the ball, you know, get
your swings in. You should be ready to go. When you were playing,
Now, I you weren't playing when they were leather helmets. I can't
remember, not quite. Not quite. They had just eliminated the helmets,
and you know, technology kind of caught up with the game. Okay,
but when you were playing, Uh, what was that your outside voice when
you were playing? Did guys come to camp in shape? Yeah? Yeah,
for the most part, I think that when I came into the league,
it was really that push of where they overdid it right, So it
was now we have an opportunity to get a hold of these guys in March
and in April and in May. So that was the the invention of the
many camps and the off season programs and these OTAs that you hear about is
when I came into the league, and the and the you know, end
of the eighties and early nineties is when you started having teams say, Okay,
we're gonna get you get guys together for ten days in March. Then
we're gonna get them for ten days right after the draft, and then in
early June, we're gonna get them together for another ten days. Since that
time, you know, with the Players Association and Collective Bargaining Agreement, they
cut that way back and gone back to the other ways of doing it.
But when I played, yeah, guys would come in and shape, but
they were always there are always that those ones that didn't And remember until my
last probably four, yeah, four or five years in the league, we
would go to training camp and spend a full two weeks of training camp before
the first preseason game. And now I think they're they're there for about a
week and then preseason starts, and there weren't There's no two days anymore two
practices a day like there were back in the in the nineties, so you
you basically and and then there was testing programs, So if you came in
out of shape, there were there were conditioning tests that you had to you
had to make and qualify once you got the training camp, and if you
didn't, you would get you would get fined, and then on top of
that, you would get looked upon a certain way like you're not ready to
play. So there was a lot of pressure on you to come into camp
in shape. But still, nonetheless there are a lot of guys that still
use training camp. Hey, I'm just gonna wait training camp to start eating
right and started getting myself in shape. Uh, when you had two a
day's was it necessary? And what would you do? I mean because you
hit almost every day, didn't you when you were playing, Yes, pretty
much, Yeah, you hit every day. There was there would be a
day that you would take off during that time, but you would hit.
You would hit one practice a day, so one practice would be full on
pads and and hitting and grind two and a half hour practice and then usually
that would be a more practice and sometimes they flip it up and be the
afternoon practice, but one of those friends in the afternoon. If you hit
hard in the morning, the afternoon practice would be maybe just shoulder pads and
shorts and just be a little bit lighter, so you didn't get as physical
in the afternoon practice to kind of give the guys a little bit of a
break. But it was still a two hour practice and was still a grind
going, you know, getting up at six practicing for two hours, trying
to you know, then you have meetings along with that, you know,
after practice or right before the second practice, and then you got to go
back and practice again just to truly crind. But they don't have that anymore.
To two days are illegal now. Yeah, So you asked me if
it wasn't necessary. Yeah, no, no, I don't think it's necessary
because you get to the point where you start beating a dead horse, and
you know, I know it's good to have repetition, but you can get
a lot of things done and what you need to get done without practice seen,
you know, six hours a day, you really can. It's it's
unnecessary. I think it was just it became and you felt with different teams
that I went to, I was, you know, obviously played for six
different teams, so different organizations did it differently. And I was with some
teams that felt that it was necessary to get all that time in. Gotta
have it all, got to have six weeks of training camp, got to
have the meetings, got to have the two and a half hour practices twice
a day. That was the only way to get yourself in shape and get
yourself ready for the season. And we found out it certainly was not the
case. Not the case. All right, Uh, who wants play a
little? Who did I do? All right, Well, you're going to
play. It's like six here's the deal. First call up, pick up
the pick up the phone, put you on the air, and you'll play
Rodney and Ronnie. Yeah. Hey, folks, here's an alert. A
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should get there early, I am not exaggerating. You should get there early,
otherwise you'll be outside of the nice patio. You enjoin the program with
you Fred's face, Kevin. We're giving away prizes, right, we will.
I don't have what those prizes are quite yet, but anytime those are
Rogan and Rodney remote. There are giveaways. So all right, I have
that's look forward to. Well there is whatever. We're very a very giving
show. I like to say that we are that we are. We live
to give. Yeah, all right, Sean and Coaster Mace are you there
here? So it's beyond guys, well Sean show. Oh I'm ready.
I can't believe I got through. This is awesome. Okay, cool,
no, Sean, right, oh, Sean, let's do this thing.
Sean, who dis no rules, no rules, and who dis when you
know it you're yelling out. You have a challenge. Use your challenge to
held you retain it. Use your challenge. It's denied. You're locked out
of the next question. You got it, got it all right, Ronnie?
Are we ready to go? Greetings Rogan and Rodney. I am ready
to go. It's got to work. I made nine Pro Bowls in my
Pro Football Hall of Fame career. Eric Dickerson incorrect, Richard Ditt No,
ray Lewis Singletary both the wrong. Charles Woodson no, Steve Young Nope,
Joe Mont There you go, Ronnie, you both said it. You're both
wrong. I left the NFL in passing yards five times and in passing jog
three times. Aidan Manning No, Eli Manning. No. Dan Marino,
Yes, Rodney, it is Dad. Yeah, Danny boy doesn't get enough
love. Yeah you know what he doesn't. No, he doesn't. A
great quarterback, great great you talk about, Oh, you know this guy's
got arm talent. That guy's got back and Patrick Mahomes got this great arm
talent. Aaron Rodgers, Oh my god, he throws a bubble. Dan
Marino, go just go watch some highlights of Dan Marino throw the football.
He was a bad man. All right, here's the next one. I
am a four time pro bowler and made my only first team All Pro team
in twenty twenty. Todd Gurley, no Jayleen Ramsey, no Jared Goff,
Aaron Donald, no Cooper Cup, no Allen no Max Crosby, Justin Herbert.
Nope. I let the NFL and rushing yards and rushing touchdowns in twenty
nineteen and twenty twenty. Oh, Henry, Yes, Sean has got it
first. Wait? Wait, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? You
said that like nobody else said anything. No, I said, Sean got
it first. Yes, I know. I didn't hear anybody about it.
That was automatic. I don't know. All right, An guess I feel
like there's a challenge coming Sean. I'm not gonna let it feel against him.
So are you not gonna let it go? Because Freddy was? I
was gonna let it go, but fred was so just nonchalant that nobody else
answered other than Sean almost got a challenge it, man, Are you using
your sh Wait? Are you using your challenge? Yeah? Because I know
you're not gonna get me a booze. So yeah, I'm using my challenge?
Why not? Are you sure you want to use your challenge? Yes?
Fred? Is that your final answer? Okay? How many times you
gotta answer? I am? How many times you gotta ask me? Man?
I can't go back on it now, and I know the rules.
I know I'm going to be locked out now, but you gotta do it.
If I said it, I'm gonna do it. Kevin, go ahead.
I let the NFL and rushing yards and rushing touchdowns in twenty nineteen and
twenty twenty. Oh Rick Henry, Oh shot, I got you? I
got you? You did you? Did? He? Stand up? Guy?
Gotta do it all right? So Rodney's locked out of this one.
I made a Pro Bowls in my Hall of Fame football career. Eric Dickerson.
No, Joe Montana, no, ray Lewis No, no Brett Fare
no Drew Brees No. I led the NFL receptions and receiving yards twice.
Jerry Rice No, my son is likely going to be the first receiver taken
in this year's NFL draft. Oh Edwin James No, wow, wow,
yeah you go? John? Here you go? Ronnie? Where are you
at? I blanked on the one I blanked on that one. I thought
it was close. Mum, hey, Sean John, you were in the
ballpark. Did you say Edwin James? I did? He did. You
want to know something? His son plays college basketball and it's pretty good.
Yeah, Edrian Jameson's got him play. M h uh huh like that I
have, Yeah, he can, he can play a little bit. Kenny,
Yeah, who's he played for? I can't remember? You know why?
No, you know why he was playing. I was watching Kansas State,
uh huh. And I can't remember the team he was playing for.
I think Kansas State lost the game. But he could play. And he
looks just like him. He's at Cincinnati there it is that Cronin's old stomping
ground. Ye, Naddy okay. And his name is a picture of hi
Keviedy looks just like his son's just like Eddrian. You're correct. And his
name is Jizsel. That was and is not a nickname. Roddie has given
name Wizzle James. Stop it, yes, please stop it, true Sizzle
James. All right, here's your next one. I made nine AL All
Star teams in my career. Who Rodney George Erlander? I said, you're
right, what how does that what, Rodney. You sounds so surprised.
Wow. Yeah, I don't think in the years we've done this, you've
ever even mentioned that name. Oh yes I have. Yeah, yeah,
I've heard him. I've heard him say Justin Erlander in the past. We've
had him a few times. Yeah, that's definitely you know what it is.
But it's like, it's like episode eight of the Dynasty. Have you
watched that Dynasty with the New England Patriots. It's really it's a really good
watch. Yeah. So episode eight is after the flate gate, after the
flight gate, where Brady had to was suspended for the first four games and
pissed off at the league, pissed off at Roger Goodell, and they all
talked about when he comes back, he's gonna be pissed off and everybody better
be unnoticed. And sure enough, that's the year they went and went to
Super Bowl and beat Atlanta and Roger Goodell had to give him the trophy at
the end as MVP, and it was an awkward thing. But yeah,
you locking me out made me pissed off. That's why I came back like
I did with a vengeance of Justin Erlander. Nice, I thought Roger was
talking about the old what the Joan Collins and John Forsyth Dynasty. Yeah,
but you're not old enough to know that. You get old enough to remember
Dynasty like that. My grandmother watched it. That's the only reason why I
know it. That was a great show, though, wasn't it all?
Anything was great? Yeah? I don't care what you wor the cowboy hat.
What was the main guy in Dynasty? J Are Ewing? No,
that was Dallas that you got your shows confused there, Sean the spinoff?
No, I think the spinoff was Nott's Landing, wasn't it. That's right
from Dallas? Yeah, with Joan van Ark Dallas? With who John van
Arc? That? Fred? Was that the like? Was that the lead
female character blonde lady? Blond lady? Okay, yeah, yeah, because
she was married to a reporter Channel four John Marshall never heard of really?
Yeah, Oh, she's she's great. Any relation of Mike Marshall, Fred,
Yeah, no, No, no relation to Mike Marshall. All right,
here's the next one. And Rodney, boy, you know you're setting
that story up, you're telling it. Got to tell you you really went
a long way to get to the point why you around the corner, in
the corner, around the band, over the hill, the grandmother's house.
To get where are we going? What we don't have? Me just had
to get the Dynasty. I watched it last night, so it was really
good. I had to get that in all right, here we go.
I was the first round pick by the Nuggets in nineteen ninety eight, but
was traded by the Lakers on draft day. Who Alex English? No Carmelo
Al both the wrong? Wait a minute, did you even finish the question?
Fred I was the first round picked by the Nuggets in ninety eight,
traded to the Lakers on draft day. Oh, Derek Fisher, No Kobe
Briot No. I won two NBA titles with the lakersmar Odem augustav no I
won an NBA title as a head coach in twenty sixteen. Tyler Tylan was
correct. Ronnie's who it is? Ronnie? You can jump in and whenever
you want. I just did a Didn't I get it right? Rodney?
Now you asked him, smart ass? You asked him if Freddie can get
finished with the question, and he doesn't have to get finished with the question,
you smart ass, mother, Easy Rodney, Right, listen, take
another sip of green tea. Gets your games right, foolio. Wow,
Rodney trying to take it a little bit personal. There, Rodney, just
a game riding right, It's just a games right, Ronnie gets games right.
Let's move on, Fred, I'm doing this a long time. Come
on, man, all right, you better than that. No, i'd
well, we'll put Rodney has two, Sean has two, Ronnie has one.
Here is the final question. I made two All Star teams in my
thirteen year MLB career. Justin Turner No, oh, Clayton Curser, Peter
Peter nos No, Alex Rodriguez, no, Big Poppy, not the Poppy
Manny Ramirez, Poppy, not Rameira's Clayton Kershaw. No. I won two
World Series titles with the Dodgers, two of them. Ron Say, Steve
Garvey, Dusty Baker, No, Fernando No, no, Steve Jeger No,
Mike soosha. And there it is, Mike sure Rodney. So here's
the way he finished. Didn't win, Leo neither? Did you settle down?
All right? So here you all right, let's let's everybody relax.
Yeah, rod let's go leave. Rodney. We end in a three way
tie Sean Rodney and Ronnie so Seawan, good job, Sean, hanging in
so good about that stuff. Good stuff, Sean, Thank you guys,
what stuff up thinking. I'll try to get in again. Appreciate you guys.
We appreciate it you too. Next hour, David Vasse will join us.
Then he I don't know if he'll go right to the airport. They're
leaving tomorrow, so I don't know if he's going to go directly to the
airport after he talks to us, but he will talk to us before he
gets on the plane for Korea. And that's coming up, all right.
We continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on a five seventy LA Sports.
Dodgers are headed off to Korea tomorrow, but they've got a game going on
against the Mariners right now. David Vassy is at the game and we bring
him on live. Dave, good afternoon to you. Yoshi Yama Moto.
Yes, probably the best ending of pitching I've seen from Yamamoto this spring.
He had that fast fall and so that's the Yama Moto we've heard about.
Yeah, I love it, Hey, Dave, you know there was that
outside noise about him, you know, tipping pitches and things like that,
and they what what did the Dodgers think about that? Have they mentioned that?
Is that a big deal or they don't even are they just not even
really addressing it at this point. Yeah, it's not a deal, right,
I know, yes, but when they identified that they could see the
ball. Nobody was at second base. So unless another team is due the
seventh sin Astro's deal, that's a moot point. Now if he's tipping while
he's out of the stretch and there was yeah, okay, great, you
could see, Uh, there's nobody at second Basely right, all right,
you know what, Dave, we're going to call you back because you're breaking
up, Kevin, give them a call back. We'll try to get back
out because the signal's not great. Well, you know, Rick Monday pointed
that out in his first outing, that you could see what he's doing.
But perhaps they have had a conversation and despite the fact he doesn't really like
pitch it from the stretch, and we learned that today, he mowed down
the first three Mariners he faced. I'm sure they'll work on that when he
gets to the stretch. Rodney. Yeah, or it could be not a
big deal. Or it could be a situation where they looked at it and
it's not Oh maybe he's not really tipping his pitches and it's something different,
you know what I'm saying. So who knows, But I'm sure as much
self scouting and as much Dodgers do and video that's out there, you know,
if if if they put it this way, they would have probably noticed
it as well. All right, David, Given spring training, they would
have noticed it. I'm here, okay, all right, Yeah, you
were breaking up before. That's all all right, Gavin l No, I
understand. Sorry to bother you to day. He is sitting in his on
his couch at home, you know, on a landline. No, he's
at the game doing work, multitasking. I know he is, and he
does work. Get out of here, alright, I'm sorry, it's out,
Gavin. Luck shaky at second base so far, Dave, How does
the Dodgers feel about this? Well, it was even shakier at shortstop,
and that's why they moved him to second base. And the bottom line is,
if he doesn't hit, he's not going to be smart. So the
breath outright is because he has looked at the plate they're keeping for offense.
You know what it's like right now? All right, Well, this is
sad because we wanted to hear all about Dave's upcoming plans for Korea, but
we can't really hear Dave. He's at the ballpark. Fit the the ballpark,
and there's probably a lot of traffic as the Dodgers get ready to go
to Korea. Probably a lot of interference going on out there in Arizona.
All right, well, you know what we'll have to do. We'll just
have all here. He's back again. All right, day were you there
this time? He never left? He never left? All right? Kevin?
Is is that it for Dave? Okay? Kevin's and he's resigned to
it. Oh no, and I We'll just let him go. That's what
it is. It is what it is. Sometimes, you know. I'm
excited for him though. He's going to getting ready to go to Korea.
Uh. That's going to be a great trip, you know, for them
to be over there. And we talked about it earlier, Fred them to
go a little bit early. It feels like to you know, see the
country a little bit, see the city a little bit, also play some
games, some international games. Uh, it's just gonna be a great trip
for those Dodgers and the people that are going over there. How do you
think they'll react to Otani? Oh, I think they'll react huge to him.
I think it's it's going to be incredible, you know, it's I
think, first of all, he's a he's a global, global superstar,
so no matter where you're from or what country. And I think he is
a well known player, well known superstar, so and especially in that part
of the world, he's a big, big deal, more so than over
here. So I think he's going to get a tremendous welcome when the Dodgers
land and he comes up to the plate. Yeah. The thing is,
he transcends you know, he is Michael Jordan, he is Tiger Woods.
Because of who he is, he transcends his sport, and very few people
do. We've talked about this in the past. You know, you can
be the greatest in any given sport. That doesn't mean you transcend to the
general public. But Michael Jordan did Tiger Woods did. I think Arnold Palmer
and Jack Nicholas did, and I think Otani does two. Even if you
don't know he plays baseball, you know, who he is and at that
point in time, you have transcended Rodney. Yeah, that's it. If
you don't know baseball, you still know who he is, then you know
you have And can you think of a can you think of a player now,
current player right now that transcends like that or is global like that?
Maybe Lebron James right now is the one out there. What else can you
think that is a global icon? Okay, well we could look at football
and say Pat Mahomes, but I don't think so. No, I don't
think so because football is not such a global sport. I mean it is
big, don't get me wrong, and it's grown every single year, and
football is king and king in a lot of places. You just listen to
all the broadcasts of the Super Bowl around the different countries. You can understand
how big football is around the world, even in countries that don't play it.
But I just I don't think Patrick Mahomes is on the Lebron James level.
When you talk about global maybe messy MESSI yeah, maybe about it definitely.
Yeah. You saw when he came here to Miami. I mean in
a country that doesn't I mean celebrated soccer as much as they do in South
America or Europe. Uh. He came here. It was a phenomenon and
so yeah, definitely definitely messy. Nobody in hockey, nobody right now in
hockey. Huh. I don't think anybody in hockey. I mean there are
great players, I don't think they transcend that Sid the kid ever transcend like
that? No he didn't. No, I don't think it's the level.
No. No, he certainly transcended to the levels in Canada and here,
But no, I don't think worldwide globally. No. Yeah, basketball Lebron
Steph Curry or no, No, now you would be a tear down on
Steph Curry. I think to a song big big, but not globally it
would be a Lebron James thing. More so, then you're right anecdotal evalence
on my part. So I went on a trip with some friends of mine.
We went to Croatia about four years ago, and we're walking and one
of my best friends is he's he's seven he's seven foot you know, seven
foot one. He's pretty tall. It looks like a bride basketball player and
he played in college in high school And they said, do you know Steph
Curry there's a little kid from Croatia And the first thing they asked is that
do you play basketball? Are you American? And do you know Steph Curry
didn't ask about Lebron James. Now. I know we're talk talking about global
sponsorships and all that stuff, but to a certain degree, Steph has some
international appeal for sure. They didn't ask me about Yeah, but they do
have. You know a lot of guys have international appeal depending where you are.
But just talking about if country go country by country around the globe,
I think Lebron James names will come up first before anybody else's. Can I
just read a quick tweet? I just checked. No, you know the
tweet? You know the tweet, don't You got a tweet from Holly Robinson
Pete who listens to the show. And by the way, yes, Holly,
thanks for listening every day. Now, if you don't think she listens
every day, she does because she usually listens in the other room and if
Rotney has said something or seems to be a little off on something, I
have the ability to see her and see her run in and talk. Yes,
well you know, so this this listener a p one Holly Robinson Peete
tweets the show. Fortunately, Fritz, you have it, you know on
you know, the house is hooked up to everything, so Google, she
says, a Google play Rogan and Rodney. It goes around the house sometimes.
So I walk into the bathroom and I hear her voices playing. She's
like wit in the world. Yeah, and she also listens in the car
to be fair, Yes, yes she does. Here's her tweet. Wow,
Rodney is wound pretty tight today. Damn, what's wrong. I'm gonna
have to have a talk with her. Yeah like that normally maybe I am,
Maybe I'm not. You know, let me do my soul. Woman,
I'm sure you don't want us to dump that. And there's still time'
she core'd you cut us? All right? We've got the haiku coming up
here in a minute, and before we get into VIC, we will discuss
the Lakers upcoming game tonight and what happened to the Clippers last night.