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And today's episode. You know,
Shelley's taken this one because I really have

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no idea what we're doing. What
are we doing? Well? You will

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be reading a letter, oh okay, and I found an awesome religious quiz

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A quiz don't Mary baby? Oh? All of you will be playing alone?

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Well you can play at home game. Yes, m okay, Well

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that sounds like a barrel of fun. It will be. Let's take a

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break and get into it, alrighty
bere it back. Hey, everybody,

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welcome to Latter Day Lesbian, the
podcast about an x more man gay girl

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just trying to figure out her life. I'm Mary, I'm Shelley, and

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here we are once again in the
studio. We are I think we've realized

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that we're churning out about one episode
per month. Yeah, for those of

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you keeping tracking, For those of
you are like where the fox the episode?

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We're in a slow roll. Yeah. Mary is very busy with her

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full time job, and Mary does
a lot of the editing for the podcast

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after Dan, so you know,
we have to kind of put things in

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order. You know. Also,
after four years of podcasting once a week,

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yeah, I have a lot.
I burned out. Yes, that's

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what happened. What was the expression
that Kimberly said, don't set yourself on

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fire trying to keep other people warm. Yep, I was trying to cover

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for Mary, acting like she was
super busy at work. Because I am

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an apologizer, So I apologize.
I apologize for that must just be real.

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Like, Yeah, four and a
half years of once a week podcasting

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plus that stint of midweek letters,
well that went away a while ago.

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No, I know, I'm just
saying that was a lot. We have

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more than just one hundred and seventy
episode, which is what the number we're

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recording right now. Regardless, regardless, that's a lot. I got tired.

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Yea. Yeah, we have loved
it and we are still loving it.

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It's just less, there's less of
us to love. Well, I

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just needed a little break, Yeah, I needed a breaking break. Yeah.

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And also I think we're we're kind
of running out of Mormon like strictly

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Mormon contents. We gotta figure that
out. Yeah, we're shifting to some

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other We're gonna have to shift a
little bit. Yeah, obviously the Mormon

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Church will do some stupid fuck up
shit from time to time, but we

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will jump all over that because they
can't help themselves. Actually, there's a

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little bit of one thing that we
can address today. Oh yeah, you

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want to dive into it now?
Should we? Should we? It's up

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to you, apparent. Let me
move my paperwork out. This is my

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paperwork. Oh okay, that was
the words all your notes right now,

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Mary's like, we're gonna edit that
out. I don't know, depends on

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if I feel like, yeah,
that's true, that's true. So do

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y'all remember when you're Mormon friends recently
and my Mormon friends for sure are all

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happy about the Mormon Church suddenly backing
same sex marriage rights. When did they

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do that? Well, they kind
of didn't, But there was this thing.

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Let me read this because I'm sure
that I will get it wrong.

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Is this recent? Okay, this
was the end of twenty twenty two,

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so I'm not that old, all
right. On Tuesday, ahead of the

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Senate's planned vote on a law to
protect some rights of same sex couples,

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the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
day Saints released a surprising statement in support

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of the Senate's Respect for Marriage Act. We believe this approach is the way

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forward as we work together to preserve
the principles and practices of religious freedom,

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together with the rights of LGBTQ individuals, much can be accomplished to heal relationships

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and foster greater understanding, wrote the
Mormon Church, which has long taught that

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acting on same sex attraction is a
sin, and excluding the children of same

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sex couples from baptism and naming ceremonies
once again, who's acting? Sorry every

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time? So so on the surface, and what the current Mormons are believing

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is that, oh, look,
the church is becoming even more progressive now.

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They're like, yeah, same sex
couples. Yeah, we're so behind

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that. Yes, that's weird,
totally weird. And when something seems totally

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weird and out of character for the
Mormon Church, when you're like, wow,

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that's progressive, you gotta dig a
little deeper. Okay, So is

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that what you did? We're about? Well, I just kept reading the

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article. Okay, that's my digging
a little deeper. Paragraph. Are you

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going to launch your new career as
an investigative reporter? You know, if

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an investigation means the next paragraph?
Cru yeah? Scroll? Okay. Of

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course, the show of support for
this particular bill is not as much of

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a bear hug to LGBTQ rights as
it may seem, duh. A closer

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look at the nuts and bolts of
the Senate's Respect for Marriage Act shows that

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it does not codify a federal right
to same sex marriage. Rather, requires

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state governments to respect same sex marriages
that happened when same sex marriage was legal.

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Can you say, same sex marriage
and sex same sex, same sex.

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We need to make a drinking game
out of this, Okay, I

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mean it's five o'clock somewhere. I'm
drinking water. Boring. Continue. So

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basically, what this is saying is
like, if people were married when gay

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marriage was legal, we gotta like
respect that. Oh it's like grandfathered in

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or something. Yeah. Yeah,
And this I thought was interesting. The

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bill requires the same for interracial married
couples. Seriously, did we not fucking

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addressed this a long time ago?
Like America? What the fuck? How

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is that still in the books?
Yeah? Wow, befling, Like,

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oh, that's right, and the
interracial couples too, fuck forgot about that.

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Next, dogs and cats will be
lying together, Jesus. Okay.

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The Respect for Marriage Act as a
response to the Supreme Court's decision to overturn

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Roe v. Wade this summer,
which prompted Justice Clarence Thomas to write a

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concurring opinion setting up the courts previous
decisions around same sex and interracial marriage.

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What the fuck, Clarence? Actually
he lived in the neighborhood I used to

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live in, and we got his
Christmas letter all the time. Was he

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putting pubic hair in your coke?
Well, we don't drink coke because we're

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Mormon. Okay, So let's get
into why the Mormon Church and other religious

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churches religious groups are cool with this
support of Marriage Act right? Do it?

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It's a fucking facade. So here's
why. In addition to not enshrining

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a federal same sex marriage right,
it also codifies strong religious freedom rights for

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faith based groups and organizations. So
they're like, yeah, we'll respect marriage,

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but yeah, we're gonna fucking be
our religions and do whatever the fuck

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we want, which means this bill
gives them significant leeway to discriminate against LGBTQ

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people and same sex couples, almost
as a trade off for state governments to

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recognize currently legal married same sex couples
no matter how the Supreme Court rules in

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the future. So basically dun this
down for me, actually, because I'm

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confused. The law says that state
governments have to recognize currently legally married same

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sex couples. So even if way
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we can't have same sex anymore,
states recognize, yes, you were married

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when it was legal, but yeah, but an exchange, it had to

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give more leeway to religious groups saying
that you can discriminate against LGBTQ people in

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same sex couples, for example,
not letting them in your church, not

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marrying them, kicking them out of
your church. What I'm saying is the

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Mormon Church is only heralding themselves as
look, we're supporting the Gay Marriage Act.

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Well, let's talk about what you
had to take. So it's like

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a barter agree, a barter agreement, which means, okay, we'll leave

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them alone, but also we have
the right to discriminate. Wow. So

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reading on, despite its Tuesday's statement, the Mormon Church continues to hold a

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hard line stance that same sex relationships
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this basically says that states recognize same
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which trumps the state levels. It
gives the Mormon Church right to discriminate

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against same sex couples by prohibiting them
being married in the Mormon Church. They

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are also allowed to tell them to
leave the Mormon Church. They're also allowed

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to if they want to go back
and do the whole Okay, we won't

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baptize children of gay couples, right
right, right, right right, unless

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doesn't a child have to denounce their
gay parents or something. Yes, now

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that rule was leaked, right,
they were going to talk about that.

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That was leaked and that's why that
blew up, and they're like, no,

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no, it's not all we meant, which is a lie. So

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the reason I bring this up is
that I again, I have current,

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like two current Mormon friends who know
I'm gay, and they're like, oh

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my gosh, you see the Mormon
churches now morning gear rights, and they're

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so brainwashed to think that like the
Mormon Church is suddenly loving gays. Yeah

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they're not. Yeah, So once
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whatever it needs to say to look
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But if you dig deep, if
you dig deep, it's all about

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them being racist, bigoted assholes in
the name of Jesus Christ Seamon. Yeah,

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and this barter thing, I'll give
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know. It just seems so snaky
and underhanded. I mean, we don't

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talk politics here, but in politics
it's always i'll give you this for this.

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I'll scratch your back, you scratch
shine, you owe me a favor,

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I'll pay you. It's all fucked
up. And then toe to see

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this work in the way of being
able to discriminate against people really just chaps

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my hide. I mean, that's
what Jesus would do. Oh for sure,

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remember Jesus, and he is like, listen, I will see I

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love everyone as long as you kick
out the horrors and the lepers. It

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was just a random example of that
thing that in like Luke chapter three?

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Is it? Speaking of Luke chapter
three? Our segment coming up with the

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quiz pulls from biblical verses. Well, this should be a trait. Should

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we get into it? You want
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let's do it. We're calling this
segment a name that religion, So you're

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gonna quiz me. Yeah, I'm
gonna quiz you. This came from a

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website called AlterNet. What that means, and the title is here are the

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twenty weirdest religious beliefs. Oh fun, this twenty of the weirdest. I

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mean, there's more more of God, most of them, So let me

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just read the intro here. We
find it easy to dismiss the fantastical beliefs

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of people in other times and places, but those that we've been exposed to

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since childhood seemed not so far out. Virgin birth water turning into wine,

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a fig tree shriveling on the spot
must have been real cold dead people getting

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up out of their graves and walking
around. Hey, I saw walking dead.

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That's exactly what that is. Dead
people. Get okay. All of

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the following beliefs are found in respected
religions today. They have been long taught

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by religions that either are considered part
of the American mainstream or are homegrown,

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made in the good old us of
A produced here and exported. Some of

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these beliefs are ensconced it's a good
word, ensconced in sacred texts. Others

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are simply traditional. All, at
one time or another have had the sanction

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of the highest church authorities, and
many still do. And all of them

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are really fucked up. Yeah,
of course and fake. Well yeah,

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I'm starting to think, are you
how many of them can you match up

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with a familiar religious tradition. Here's
your choices, y'all. Pay attention.

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Evangelical or slash Bible believing Christianity okay, okay, Catholic Christianity. We might

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have to go through these agin as
we move on. Judaism, Islam okay,

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Scientology, Mormonism, Christian science,
and Jehovah's witness. This ought to

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be a good Are you right?
You want me to show you the key?

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Ye, it'll help me. I
was gonna write them down bad since

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you already did. Yeah, there's
a lot. Okay, you're ready.

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Let's try this question one or statement
one? The foreskin of a holy One?

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When it inserts holy one, it's
like god allah whatever, right,

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they're just more like a priest or
something. No, it just puts that

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in there too, because if you
said priest, then your God doesn't have

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foreskin. Oh my God, a
holy one? All right, Jesus Christ.

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Can I do this again? M
how many times I have to say

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foreskin? For seven years ago?
Okay? The four skin of a holy

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One may lie safeguarded in reliquary,
reliquary? How the fuck reliquaries? R

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E l I q u A r
I E s M. That's an old

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person word. No, I have
no idea. The new word for that

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is things may lie safeguarded in things
made of gold and crystal and inlaid with

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gems. Or it may have ascended
into the heavens all by itself. Can

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you imagine if you're an angel in
heaven, he here comes these foreskins.

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All right, Well, I'm narrowing
this down to two. I think it's

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either Judaism or Islam. I don't
know anything about Islam, but I'm gonna

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go with Islam. It's two,
which is Catholic. Yeah, that's Catholicism.

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Any of you deeply rooted in Catholicism? Foreskinsure holy one? Foreskins for

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the wind? Is it a wind? It would be a loss for the

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guy who lost it? All right, I'm down by one? Are you

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keeping schooler? Okay? Mary?
Whatever? Zero. I'll just hold up

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a finger when you actually get one
right. Number two. A race of

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giants once roamed the earth, the
result of women and demigods interbreeding. And

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this has a part two. Oh
Am, I supposed to guess already.

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Yeah, go ahead, guess already
Judaism. So there's two religions that believe

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this. Oh there's two. Yeah, I need you to tell me the

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number and the religion. Three is
Judaism. Okay, that's one guess and

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uh sure eight Jehovah's Witness. Why
not? The answers are actually number one,

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which is Evangelical yep, and number
six, which is Mormonism. Go

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Mormon. We'll wait a minute now. So I feel like any kind of

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race of giants would have been mentioned
in the Old Testament, which is Judaism.

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I've read you what the what it
said? Anywhere there's a part two?

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Okay, they meaning the giants lived
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dragons. Wow, that's fun stuff. I'm still guessing. I thought we

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already gets it. Just puts next
to it number one. That's the Evangelicals.

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Yeah, I don't remember the fire
breathing dragons, but maybe they've been

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watching a lot of like Game of
Thrones or something. Could be, could

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be, you know. I would
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that believes the Old Testament to be
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believes that. Yeah, could be. I can't remember about the giants from

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the Old Testament, but anyway,
I am scoring a big old goosec right

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now, you're zero. Okay,
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can take control of pigs. I
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terms to be you know how we
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that is in the Okay, so
in the Old Testament. I don't remember

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where this was. Somebody cast a
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into a bunch of pigs, and
people believe that shit. Yeah, so

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let's say how many how many answers? Is the one or two? This

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one? Just one? He's got
to pick one. I mean, it

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could be any of the Bible believe
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put number one Evangelicals again, guess
anything. I mean, I read it

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in the Bible. To me,
if it's in the Old Testament, it

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should apply to Evangelicals, Catholics,
possibly Mormons. And I don't even know

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anything about Christian scientists, but Judy, there's them up here for Christian scientists

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or whatever. I am sucking at
this. Yeah, she's a big zero.

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Next a talking donkey scolded a prophet. Mormonism, I mean slightly true

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because it's scripture roles. Number one
evangelicals again, it's it's anyone out there

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who's evangelical, fucking sucker. And
I say that in the nicest possible way.

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Um. Yes, Number one and
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Bible believing Christianity. So again this
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is Judaism. Okay, well,
you're still not guessing correctly. I think

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the point of this is to realize
how much weird ass shit people believe and

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how much Mary doesn't know about religion. That's okay, a dodge the bullet,

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okay. Number five, a righteous
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eternal paradise. Number six Mormonism.
Boom, got one, got one right,

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hilarious. By the way, they
still believe that this isn't like an

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old dumb right, I'm gonna lead
you through the veil hut flatter day saints.

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Next up, brown skin is a
punishment for disobeying God. Six Mormonism.

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Yeah, bow, it's funny.
I know more about Mormonism than on

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any the other ones. I wonder
why that is showing because I talk about

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it have adcast you know more about
my religion than your own. It's so

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true. Okay, Oh, here's
a good one. A prophet once traveled

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between two cities on a miniature flying
horse with the face of a woman and

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the tale of a peacock. It's
fucking awesome. I want that religion.

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I'm just telling you now. It's
not Mormonism, but I want that.

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Can you repeat this like it matters
like you like your response is going to

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change? Okay. A prophet once
traveled between two cities on a miniature flying

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horse with the face of a woman
and the tale of a peacock. I'm

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gonna just go as scientology number five. Nope, number four Islam interesting huhcause

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you have some weird texts as well. Again, I don't know anything about

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those two or Christians, well now
you know, or Jehovah's Witness except for

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like think we'll get to one of
those. Celebrate your birthday at Christmas?

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Much all I know. There was
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and I remember because she was always
absent. She's always absent. And

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then I asked her, oh you
missed the blah blah, She's like,

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Oh, we don't celebrate that.
Mhmm. It sucks to be you.

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Okay. Number eight, the Holy
One forbids a cat or dog receiving a

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blood transfusion, and forbids blood meal
being used as garden fertilizer. I'm gonna

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say number three judaism. No.
Number seven. Seven is Christian science.

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I don't know science. It's funny
to me that there's science because of blood

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trans sort of science. Yeah,
doesn't Christian science. They don't only believe

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in medicine. That's probably is.
That's what it is. Anyway, I

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don't know anything about it. To
be honest, I'm the wrong person to

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take this quiz. Yeah, you're
only getting the Mormon answer at this point.

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So read your garden fertilizer. Make
sure there's no blood meal in it.

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Okay, Okay, because that dum's
forbidden by the Holy One, and

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do that later today. Cast up
sacred underwear, Oh Jesus, it's the

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fact that this is believed is like
the fact that I believed it. Honestly,

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it's a dumbass. Okay. Sacred
underwear protects believers from spiritual contamination and,

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according to some adherents, from fire
and speeding bullets. Which one's that?

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Mary? Six Mormons? Mormons go
crazy ass motherfuckers. I mean,

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all this stuff sounds pretty waggy,
huh. I think the Mormon one hits

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me a little harder because I believe
that shit. Yeah, I'm sure.

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I mean all that stuff in the
Old Testament, Like, seriously, the

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evil spirit did go out of the
dude and went into the pigs. Yeah,

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how's that fair of the pigs?
And why can't you just get rid

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of the evil spirit in general?
Yeah? But no, God was like,

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well, at least pigs don't matter. Yeah, and the spirit's gotta

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go somewhere. I mean, I
know I'm God and all omnipotent, but

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I gotta put them somewhere. You
know, it's so weird because it's just

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such a mixed message. So I'm
saving this human who's more valuable than this

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pig over here. I'm gonna make
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But then Jesus is talking about even
birds have nests or even like Laco

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beautiful, the lilies of the field
are you know, God cares about.

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God notices every sparrow or whatever.
So it's like the idea that God cares

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for all things. But yeah,
here's an example of God given them two

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rats asses about the pigs, and
for no good reason, probably doesn't care

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about the rats asses either. No, well, why didn't you give the

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rats asses the spirits? I mean, pigs are very smart, right,

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there's other choices God, as long
as you're moving evil spirits around. I

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mean, I'm kind of hungry for
a ham sandwalt right now, just get

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fever some spare ribs. Okay,
moving on. When certain rites are performed

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beforehand, bread turns into human flesh
after it is swallowed. I'm gonna say,

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well, that's so many but Catholicism
number two, Yes, okay,

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I mean a lot of people who
are a work Catholic. Do you ever,

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like, actually sit and think about
that? But only when it's swallowed?

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I guess I didn't know that,
But well, I guess I don't

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want you chewing on Jesus. You
just suck it down on a gulp.

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There's so many things weight unless they
just dissolve on your tongue. No,

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you chew them, but it doesn't
actually turn into Jesus and tell what it's

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in your I don't know if they're
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or an intestine. I don't know, a whip point. Yes, specifically

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we should a digestive so you probably
do an ultrasound as you're swallowing. But

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there it is. There's Jesus.
Jesus is like face flush? Like what

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kin? Where in the digestive tract
is Jesus' foreskin? That's a fun game?

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Or was that just Calamaria had?
Sorry Jesus, if you are real

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and this is offensive, I mean
we're kind of not sorry. You know

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you're laughing. It's fucking hilarious.
For real. What's the next? Sorry?

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Invisible supernatural being reveal themselves in mundane
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Number five scientology, No, seriously, come on, what who always

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sees the virgin Mary in their toast? Oh? All right? Number two

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catholicis yes, Oh my god,
what is wrong with people? I know,

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I don't know. This is phenomenal
though. The next one is too

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easy, but we're gonna play it
anyway. Isn't Mormonism side eye to Mary?

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In the end times, the Holy
Ones chosen people will gather together in

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Missouri. That's right. Jackson County, Missouri, who said that whose religion

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is that thinking? Is number six? Mormonism. Go Mormons, Go Mormons.

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Jackson County, missouris the place to
be so stupid. Huh Okay.

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The next one, believers can drink
poison or get by snakes without being harmed.

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It feels like evangelical number one has
number one. Yeah, yeah,

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oh, I got an evangelical about
time. It's you. It's the religion

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of your childhood. Yeah, but
we were not into snakes and all that.

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There's so many different nuances within the
evangelical movement. True, I'm just

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laughing at just the pure words here. Weren't you raised that? Well?

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Yeah, but we weren't really into
snakes and all that. Right. Well,

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but there's a great book. I
think it's something called Miracle on Sand

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Mountain, something about Sand Mountain.
I feel like it takes place in Georgia

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or somewhere where people handle snakes.
It's probably still happens, but the yeah,

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because they're trying to test God,
like will I survive yet again?

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So they get in this weird trance
like state praising Jesus or whatever, holding

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these snakes, and then it's almost
like they're daring God, Like if God

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so dumb, it is like if
God should love people all think that they're

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sinners, not because their hands are
nubs, but they didn't die, see,

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well not all of them. They
didn't die. If you didn't die,

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then you're righteous. So I'm going
to play the game with God that

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like, if I eat five Snickers
Bars a day and live through it,

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God loves me. I think you'll
live through it. You may. Let

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mean, I am not a sinner
if I live through the Stickers bars.

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It's a weird analogy. You're right, I want to bar if if I

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had five Snickers Bars every day.
So if you can have five and not

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barf, then you're not a sinner. I think i'd rather have pop tarts.

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Oh yeah, yeah. Now do
you count that as like the one

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pack of pop tarts as part of
the five or is it the one individual

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because it's a two pack. When
was the last time you opened a two

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pack and only eight one but not
the other one within like five whole packs?

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Or is it the box you're touched? Okay, we're so sidetracked.

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It's not a thing anyway. Let's
move on to another great one. Sprinkling

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water on a newborn, if done
correctly, can keep the baby from eons

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of suffering should he or she die
prematurely. So growing up Methodist, they

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did some sprinkling on the forehead.
But I don't know. I'm gonna say

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Catholic number two. Yep, from
the one, the original guilt and shame.

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Can you imagine like you give birth
to a baby and then it dies

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and the baby is basically in hell
too, Bet it didn't have a few

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drops of water sprinkles on its head. Gosh that wow, it sucks to

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be you baby in hell forever.
We're a number sixteen. Here a Holy

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One climbed a mountain and could see
the whole Earth from the mountain peak,

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the whole Earth. Number four Islam. No, it's number one and number

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two. Oh Evangelicals and Catholics.
Yeah, it's like the Christian type belief.

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Well, must be in the Old
Testaments. Yeah, isn't it when

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Jesus climbed the earth and he saw
the whole like you climb the earth,

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he climb the whole mountain. This
must be for the flat earthers. So

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if you can sit on a mountain
and sort of turn in three hundred sixty

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degrees. You'd see all of it. Oh, I see the signs now

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sees that that's not true. Yeah, thinking he didn't see the whole earth.

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Well, we believe that. M
hm oh, I love this one

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pudding. A dirty milk glass and
a plate from roast beef sandwiches in the

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same dishwasher can contaminate your soul.
Number three judaism You got it. I'm

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getting better. I'm getting better.
Can you imagine? I mean, I

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suck at doing dishes in the dishwasher
anyway. They're all just like crammed on

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top of each other. But can
you imagine if we had to sort through

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the dishes according to what was eaten
in them before we put them through the

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dishwasher. Just don't drink milk.
I'm not a big fan, but can

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milk cheese? I don't know.
Is that yogurt play the same thing?

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Yeah? It comes from a Bible
verse that says do not boil a kid,

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meaning goat, young goat, And
it's mother's milk. That's what that

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stems from. But I don't know
anything about that, Like why that was

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a thing, I don't I don't
know. I don't sounds kind of gross.

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Yeah, I'm not about it.
I've never wanted to like use milk

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as a base for like a soup
stock. Do I mean there's that cream

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soups. Maybe it's a goat cream
kid goat cream soup. You know,

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I say, I don't think you
need to say kid and got Well.

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If I done kid soup, it
just kind of creeps me. It's true,

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it's true. Okay, we have
three more left, but I need

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to take a break to go eat
some cream of kids soup, cream of

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a kid goats mouth Mama soup.
So yeah, we'll be right back.

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Okay, Okay, we're back.
I just got back from climbing up to

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the roof of my apartment building here
and I saw the entire world flat earther.

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It's amazing, it's beautiful. Yeah, well, my foeskin just flew

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up to heaven. I was wondering
what happened to that's gone down? Which

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is or was that the calamaria I
ate last night. The calamari is right

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next to the Jesus flesh and the
merry toast. There's some weird beliefs,

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some weird ass beliefs. I think
a statue is crying somewhere. You made

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it cry a statue. Yeah,
you have never heard of that, when

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statues of Mary cry weeping Mary statues, I've never heard that. You have

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it. Sometimes they weep blood.
Shut the fuck. No, this is

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because all this is something Mary's statues
wheat blood when you're a sinner, not

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necessarily when you're a sinner. Just
it's a miracle. I don't know,

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because it's a miracle the statue blood
or wet God? Any who? Moving

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on? Next one's easy. Oh
yeah, there will be an afterlife in

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which exactly one hundred and forty four
thousand people get to live eternally in paradise.

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This is like the other thing that
I know about Jehovah's Witnesses number eight.

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Yeah, man, what if you're
number one hundred forty four thousand and

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one, you're crew sorry, live
in hell forever instead of being in paradise

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and petting deer all day? Dear, Can I tell you about this.

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Jehovah's witness came to my house forever
going. They were passing out this pamphlet,

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and it's like, where do we
go when we die? Do you

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have questions? Blah blah and it's
a picture of someone in heaven, like

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a drawn picture on a national photograph, and they're just standing in this beautiful

404
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.400
field and they're petting a deer.
I'm like, is that what the funk

405
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.680
We're gonna do all day? Like
that'd be fun for about three hours,

406
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.160
you know, petting a deer is
pretty cool, But eventually the de there's

407
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.759
gonna be like, stop fucking touching
me. Dude, I've a dent in

408
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.759
myself, and then you end up
with lime disease. It's the whole thing.

409
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:08.119
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and
pass on being one of those one

410
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.599
hundred forty four thousand. I'll figure
something else out, sure, all right.

411
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:18.519
Number nineteen, Each human being contains
many alien spirits that were trapped in

412
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.440
volcanoes by hydrogen bombs. Number five
scientology. Yeah, oh, I'm getting

413
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.720
a little bit better at this.
I actually didn't know that one, and

414
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.400
now I really want to explore scientology
because I mean, I don't believe that,

415
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.480
but that's a fucking awesome belief.
I just low start, but I'm

416
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.559
rallying here near the end, doing
better, doing better. Last one,

417
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.759
this is your chance a supernatural being
cares tremendously about what you do with your

418
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:56.519
penis. Uh wow, for Islam, Can I just say that it's all

419
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.839
of them except for number five?
No, right, number five again scientology,

420
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.119
they don't give a shit, like
do what you want, fuck everyone,

421
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.640
And then then all the others are
like, I care about what you

422
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:11.240
do, like don't use your penis. That was a trick question, it

423
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.920
was. It was technically I got
it right because it was all of them,

424
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.599
that's true, except for one.
And I didn't guess that one.

425
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.680
So I think I did probably like
forties sixty forty percent, right. I

426
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.599
don't know it means all right,
you did all right? I mean it's

427
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:29.839
still an f but whatever. I
kind of want to rest this article because

428
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.599
it has some funny things to say
about this. Okay. Each of these

429
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:37.039
beliefs is remarkable in its own way, but the composite goes beyond remarkable to

430
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.480
revealing. What it reveals is an
underlying belief that is something like this.

431
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.599
The process that produced this world and
human life is best unveiled not by the

432
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:52.200
scientific method, but by the musings
of iron age herdsman or science fiction writers

433
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.400
or con artists. That's number six. Joseph smith huh, whose theories are

434
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:04.079
best judged by examining only assertions that
cannot be falsified. Underlying that belief is

435
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:08.880
sort of rational Swiss cheese. That's
going to keep cognitive scientists investigating and arguing

436
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:16.359
for decades. We humans are astoundingly
susceptible too handed down nonsense. Human children

437
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.359
are dependent on their parents for a
decade or even two, which is why

438
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.640
nature made children credulous. When parents
say, eat your peas, they're good

439
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.359
for you, kids may argue about
to eat your peas part, but they

440
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:32.640
don't usually question the factual assertion about
nutrition. And when parents say, Noah,

441
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:36.720
put all of the animals into the
arc, it's the rare child who

442
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.839
asks, why didn't the lion eat
the guinea pigs? Kids just fucking believe

443
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:46.880
this and all the animals really don't. I have to really suspend my disbelief.

444
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:52.759
Maybe they are miniaturized to be able
to shrunk, shrunk them down.

445
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.240
It was like, honey, I
shrunk the animals. Yeah. I don't

446
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.839
know how else you'd fit them on
that arc. I mean, I don't

447
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.119
know exactly how big a cubit is, but people have figured that out.

448
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.359
People have figured out how big Noah's
ark would have been. Isn't there like

449
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.319
a reconstruction of the No's arc in
some southern state. It's going to be

450
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.319
in a southern state, I don't
know. But even then, you're like,

451
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.920
I don't know where everyone's sitting near
a car hinge? Do you know

452
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.000
about car hinge where the cars are
like stonehenge? Yeah? Yeah, that's

453
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:24.319
an attraction, roadside attraction. I
like it. Let me do one more

454
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:29.599
paragraph I skipped a few, just
talks about how stupid humans are. This

455
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.880
one says some of our ancestors were
doing the best they could to understand the

456
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:36.359
world around them, but had a
very limited set of tools at their disposal.

457
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.960
Yeah. Sure, because, for
instance, if you're an early person

458
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:43.759
and there's a tornado or an earthquake
or a hurricane or what have you,

459
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.319
a drought, I mean you got
to blame it on something you don't understand.

460
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:50.480
You don't know about science yet,
right, right, So you might

461
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.359
as well make it spiritual. And
if we had only done better, we

462
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:59.079
would have not had this only paid
or tithing or did sacrifices, right,

463
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.880
I mean tithing was born out of
sacrifices, for sure. Well, we

464
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.279
won't kill any more animals in the
temple if you give us your money.

465
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:07.760
I would have given the money because
I feel bad for the animal. I

466
00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:10.360
mean, can we eat the animal
after it seems like a waste? No,

467
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:14.880
they just like kill them and burnham. Yeah, total waste. Is

468
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.719
that like poor one out for my
homie? I think so. But you

469
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.639
would also think that they could put
the evil spirits in those animals are about

470
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:22.800
to kill anyway, I don't know
what does that taste like? Does that

471
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.920
make them meat tough? They burn
them, you don't get to eat them.

472
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:34.440
God Mary. Anyway, After they
talk about that, early people had

473
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.159
very limited set of tools to understand, you know, just religious shit,

474
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:43.320
it would appear, he goes on
that others were simply making stuff up.

475
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.920
Mormonism and scientology appear to fall in
that camp. When it comes to religious

476
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:55.079
credulity, the difference matters surprisingly little. For example, Mormonism is more easily

477
00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.639
debunked than most other religions, both
because of its recency and because it makes

478
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:06.119
so many historically or scientifically wild claims, and also is one of the fastest

479
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.360
growing religions in the world proportional to
its membership. I mean This was back

480
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.599
in twenty nineteen, so it's slowed
down because people are reading the internet.

481
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:19.840
Wild claims matter less than whether a
religion has certain viral characteristics. I mean,

482
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.679
is it really fast moving still in
comparison to how big they are,

483
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.599
Like the Catholic Church is huge,
right? Yeah, I say, right,

484
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.679
I see what you're saying. However, again, this is an older

485
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:34.039
article and the church growth has definitely
slowed down. Yeah. So I like

486
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.679
that it threw Mormonism in with scientology
for sure. I mean, who hasn't

487
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.400
done that? God, I mean
Mormons, I guess, Yeah, we're

488
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.559
not a cult. You're a culture, were there, But we're not a

489
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:52.679
cult. We're the restored Truth Missouri
for the why. So that's the end

490
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.679
of that end of the segment.
You did not do well on that quiz.

491
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:59.039
I'm just gonna say that out hey, un till the end, un

492
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.159
till you got really warm up.
Huh. I feel a lot of judgment

493
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.320
coming my way, Mormon. I'm
gonna judge the fuck out of you all

494
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.079
your Mormon now was Okay, I
maintain the judgment. M that's the best

495
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:14.679
part of Mormonism to stick with you. So this whole thing makes me want

496
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.639
to go eat calamari. Now I'm
going to go make some more toast and

497
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.440
look for the Virgin Mary. Okay, that sounds good. Maybe she's bleeding

498
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.960
somewhere she bro out of her eye. If my toast Virgin Mary is bleeding,

499
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.360
there's gonna be a problem. Unless
it was like grape jelly, which

500
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:32.480
I like on toast, well,
that can be confusing. Maybe some cranberry

501
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:39.519
jelly would be the better color.
Anyway, that was name that religion.

502
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:45.199
I'm supposed to say that with you. That's okay, all right? Sorry,

503
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.639
Okay, should we jump into a
listener letter? Yeah, you're reading

504
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.119
this one. Oh, change listener's
name. Okay, we'll do. So.

505
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:59.039
This is a recent ish letter from
Melody. Melody rites Hi, Mary,

506
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.079
and Shelley. This letter is mostly
for Shelley. So I'm a parado.

507
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.960
You're just a reader, and I'm
gonna be okay, all right.

508
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.880
I was hoping for maybe a response, for some reassurance, rather than to

509
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:14.960
have this shared on the podcast whoop. See. Sorry, but if you

510
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.440
should choose to share it, that's
okay too. Well we're sharing. We're

511
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.440
sharing, that's what we chose.
Yeah, I'm writing this really needing some

512
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.400
guidance and reassurance. Right now,
I'm in the process of ending a ten

513
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.840
year marriage after realizing that I haven't
been happy for a very long time and

514
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:37.760
neither has my husband, and coming
to the realization that I'm gay in parentheses,

515
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:43.920
still not entirely sure is being gay
with the exception of Chris Evans a

516
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:47.079
thing. Isn't Chris Evans an actor
that's hot? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

517
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.199
yeah, yeah, probably. I
mean, there are some male actors

518
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.559
that I think are just fucking hot, and I would look at them a

519
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.519
lot. Chris helms Helmsworth. Isn't
that his name? Is it Helmsworth Helmsworth?

520
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.440
There are a few male actors.
Well, I'm like, damn,

521
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.400
he's hot. Doesn't mean I want. Most of the ones that are hot

522
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:05.679
to me are just pretty. If
I'm going to be honest, oh yeah,

523
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.320
we're like gay man. Can I
say that and not sound like I'm

524
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.360
stereotyping? Well, I don't think
Chris is a gay man, but I

525
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.119
think he's kind of hot. He's
kind of pretty, you know what I'm

526
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.760
saying now, when he's like thor
he's really handsome in that almost pretty way.

527
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.639
Okay, in my opinion. All
right, anyway, whatever we're sidetrack,

528
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:28.400
what us okay? Melody writes,
I have lots of questions for you,

529
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.360
which are below, But I'd like
to know that I'm going to be

530
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:36.159
okay on the other side of us, because I don't feel okay right now.

531
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.760
So I guess after potentially separation or
a divorce, Melody wants to know,

532
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.360
am I going to be okay?
You can be okay? Absolutely.

533
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.039
I'm not going to say you will
be because you might get hit by a

534
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.599
truck yesterday. I don't know yesterday. Well, yeah, maybe she already

535
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.119
got hit by a truck. Jesus. I'm just saying I can't promise anything.

536
00:38:55.119 --> 00:39:00.360
However, my experience with divorce after
a long time in dealing with issues

537
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.159
of sexuality, I'm okay. Right, A lot of people are okay.

538
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:08.599
I would venture most people are okay. It's hard as shit change. Yeah,

539
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:12.519
it's super hard. I mean,
I'm five years out at this point.

540
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.960
Well, when you were facing it, you had no idea how you

541
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:21.079
were gonna change your life that would
be okay, how it would be okay?

542
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:22.119
Well, how would your kids take
it? How are you going to

543
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.039
support yourself? Yeah? You had
a ton of fears going into it,

544
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.440
tons of fears, tons of questions, no answers, just fear. Yeah,

545
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:37.039
but also my blinders on knowing regardless
of all these fears, I have

546
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.840
to do this. Like I can't
even see all this external ship at this

547
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.639
point. I know it's there.
It's scary as fun, But I have

548
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.840
to leave this marriage scary shit.
Yeah, but I guess the need for

549
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.679
change outweighed the fear. Ultimately it
did. I'd hit rock bottom for numerous

550
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:59.440
reasons. For sure, you had
lots of reasons. Okay, Melody says

551
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.599
some of my many questions when you
were going through your divorce, where there

552
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:07.199
are times that you questioned whether or
not you're making the right decision? No,

553
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:13.440
really, only because I knew I
wouldn't and couldn't go back to the

554
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.519
situation. It was over. It
was done, absolutely not. That didn't

555
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:22.239
take away from me being scared shitless
about what I needed to do. You

556
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.320
never had any doubts, though,
No, because you know, as opposed

557
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.960
to I think a lot of people
who divorce. My ex husband and I

558
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.519
we were not best friends. Well
wait a minute, I'm going to call

559
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:37.440
a little bit of bullshit fuck because
as I recall there was something really unpleasant

560
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:42.679
offensive said to you in front of
your kids, and you didn't come home

561
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.920
for a couple of days. But
that's not correct. I didn't come home

562
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:46.800
when he was home. No,
No, I get it. Okay.

563
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:52.880
What I'm saying is you and your
mind were thinking of divorcing, but then

564
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:57.239
you were willing to go back to
the marriage. It was his idea to

565
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.679
divorce, yes, and in that
time I don't know if my brain had

566
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.719
comprehended that. To back up,
it was his idea to separate, because

567
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.960
in Virginia you separate for a year
before you divorced, so there could have

568
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.480
been a time through that entire separation
where we could have gotten back together.

569
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.920
Right. Once the separation was decided
upon, I knew that was it and

570
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:21.280
it needed to be it right,
and it was not easy. You know,

571
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:22.599
this is the guy I've been with
with twenty one years. It wasn't

572
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:28.360
all bad times. I had known
him longer than anyone else in my life.

573
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.440
Fix it for family, you know. I guess The point is it

574
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:36.440
doesn't have to be the decision that
hits you and then you don't ever question

575
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:37.480
it, or you don't wait it
on it. I'm just saying no,

576
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:42.400
I'm just saying I didn't question it
because there wasn't. But I think it

577
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.800
would be natural to question it at
first and maybe think through it a bunch

578
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.920
of times and look at it a
bunch of different ways, you know.

579
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:55.719
Absolutely. Unfortunately that can also be
a very exhausting process, emotionally exhausting.

580
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.599
I think, to my X and
I, we would get into a huge

581
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.320
argument since like that's done, we're
over, and then we would have some

582
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:06.559
good times and it was easier to
not be done and over, you know,

583
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.280
And so that's the natural process.
I think. You know, they

584
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:15.519
say breaking up is hard to do, but Melody says, right now,

585
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.239
I don't feel like I made the
right decision, and I feel like I'm

586
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.239
tearing my family apart and losing everything. I don't know if that's normal.

587
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:28.000
If you did question whether it was
the right thing to do, how did

588
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:32.239
you distinguish between your actual feelings and
being afraid of change. I think that

589
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:37.639
no matter what you choose, it's
going to be scary because change is scary.

590
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.239
Change is scary as shit. And
if you decide to stay in the

591
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:44.440
marriage, that's scary because you're not
happy like, either way is scary as

592
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:46.360
shit. I knew I wasn't going
to stay in the marriage. I also

593
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:50.960
knew that my kids were going to
be hurt. Well, it's like that

594
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.719
time you went into the bathroom and
cried because you realized that you were going

595
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:00.400
to be stuck in a life that
wasn't working for you. Yeah, and

596
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:01.559
you were at that point, I'm
going to stay. Yeah, you were

597
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:05.239
going to stay. How much before
the actual separation was that? Do you

598
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.519
have any idea? Oh? God, it was I don't know, a

599
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:12.719
year. Maybe I'm just throwing that
out there because I'm not positive. Roughly

600
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.400
probably, yeah, maybe two.
I don't even know. So you knew

601
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.920
it was in the works, but
it took a while to get to the

602
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.880
point. I didn't know the divorce
was in the works. I knew that

603
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.480
I was staying with him, and
I wasn't. You're misery about that,

604
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.719
and that was terrible. That was
a terrible realization that just defeated me,

605
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:36.840
sitting on the bathroom floor crying in
the middle of the night with nobody knowing.

606
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.400
Yeah, and I'm glad that I
didn't stay there. I mean,

607
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.440
I guess I could say I'm glad
the marriage got even worse due to both

608
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.559
of us, you know, just
whatever, and then it did get the

609
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:50.639
point where it was like rock bottom
or separating because I again, I don't

610
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.920
know if I would have made that
step to divorce because of the kids,

611
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:59.639
honestly, because of seven children and
me having nowhere to go. Yeah,

612
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:01.760
I think a lot of women get
stuck. For sure. You didn't have

613
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:07.880
any career prospects at that point yet. Yeah, I know, Melody says,

614
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:09.679
from everything you've shared on the podcast, it seems like you and your

615
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:14.960
ex have a really good relationship,
and Melody would really like to get to

616
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.239
that place for her and her husband. How did your kids take it?

617
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:21.599
How did you tell them? Because
we're getting to the point where we have

618
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:25.599
to tell our ten year old child
and I'm terrified to hurt them. They're

619
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.320
a non binary child. So we
have talked about this, yeah, on

620
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.199
the podcast. I can't remember what
episode it is, it's probably been a

621
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:35.679
while ago. Let me tell you
though, the first, Melody, this

622
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.079
will hurt your children. There's no
getting around it. It's gonna hurt your

623
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:43.880
Divorce is hard. Absolutely, it
doesn't mean it's not right. Divorce is

624
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:45.519
so tough on kids. Yeah,
it just is. It's gonna hurt you,

625
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.119
it's gonna hurt your spouse, it's
gonna hurt your extended family. It's

626
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.119
sure gonna hurt your kids. But
guess what that doesn't mean it's the wrong

627
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:57.119
choice. Yeah. People heal,
people move, People will look back and

628
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.920
understand. Oh yeah, I'm glad
you got divorce. That's the point my

629
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:02.119
kids are. They look back in
there like, I'm glad you and dad

630
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.800
divorced. They get it. Yeah, they do get it. They don't

631
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.480
understand how you all probably might make
sense and sure, sure absolutely so.

632
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:15.559
Is it going to hurt people,
but people experience pain, Yeah, they

633
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.320
move through their pain. They move
on. Yep. And there are good

634
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:24.159
lessons to be learned for your kids
going through divorce. You know, my

635
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:30.480
kids have learned. You don't have
to stick with a choice because you made

636
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.719
a choice. I don't agree with
marriages forever. If you get married and

637
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.519
it works, great, If you
get married it quits working, get out

638
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.599
of it. You don't have to
stick by something that you said forever ago

639
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:45.239
if it no longer works for you. Yeah. Speaking of religion, that

640
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:50.880
is a principle or an idea firmly
entrenched in religion, that idea that you

641
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:54.519
know, you make your vow and
you are now committed forever and in Mormonism

642
00:45:54.559 --> 00:46:00.199
even into eternity. Yeah, just
doesn't always work out. Yeah, I

643
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:05.119
feel like you can also teach kids
how to be kind to an X well,

644
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.360
and sometimes it's a really good example
to kids to maybe not stay in

645
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:12.599
something that could be abusive, for
instance. Yeah, I mean there's a

646
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.079
lot of reasons to not stay with
someone too, right, it can just

647
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.519
be that you've grown apart, period, end of story. It's okay to

648
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.760
leave a marriage my opinion, simply
because it doesn't work for you anymore.

649
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:27.320
Doesn't have to be abuse, doesn't
have to be someone cheating, It doesn't

650
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:29.639
have to be any of that stuff
that we hear about. And it can

651
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.400
just be, you know what,
we've grown apart. It's just not working.

652
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.840
I want to pursue other things,
and and so to you and the

653
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.760
best to you. We can remain
friends or just completely disconnect. Let's be

654
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.360
the best parents in the fucking world
for these children. Yeah, you know

655
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:49.800
you mentioned the relationship with my X. It's not perfect. Sometimes it's not

656
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.159
easy. A lot of times it's
great, A lot of times. We

657
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.159
do a great job juggling the kids
and getting to them to all their shit.

658
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.440
You know, I wouldn't avoid divorce
if all of your reasons for divorce

659
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:01.559
are there, but you're worried about, well, what if we don't get

660
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:06.559
along after we divorce. Yeah,
you're already not getting along clearly, you

661
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:08.519
know. I mean, that's true, and there's growth in there for both

662
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:13.880
parties. Yeah. So it's going
to be scary no matter how you slice

663
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:15.800
it. But it's not the end
of the world. No, And there

664
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:21.000
is support, Shelley, she had
a whole huge support system. Yeah.

665
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:25.079
Yeah, you can always reach out
to the Lattery Lesbian Podcast support group on

666
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:30.599
Facebook. Yep, if he walks
to the discussion group Lattery Lesbian Podcast Discussion

667
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:37.039
Group on Facebook. Oh my god, that's always a mouthful for me name.

668
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.159
Yeah, but that's an option as
well. Okay. To wrap this

669
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:45.679
up, Melody says, I have
one million questions and don't really know anyone

670
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.920
who's been through divorce because I'm only
thirty one and surprisingly, despite the fact

671
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.599
that I got married at twenty one, I was never Mormon or any sort

672
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:58.119
of religion. But my ex was
in the military, which is its own

673
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.400
kind of cult. I guess it
is, yes, very true. I

674
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:05.360
know you all are busy and get
inundated with messages, So if you don't

675
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.360
get around to reading this, I
understand, But if you do and are

676
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.280
willing to talk to me, I'd
really appreciate it because I'm struggling right now.

677
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.519
Best Melody, Melodie. We're here
for you. Yeah, we're here

678
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:16.679
for you, and I hope you
listened to this episode. You should if

679
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:22.519
you're a listener, and if you're
on Facebook, oh gosh, I really

680
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:29.360
strongly recommend you get into that Facebook
group Latter Day Lesbian Podcast Discussions and just

681
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.079
openly talk about it. It's safe
in there. People get it, people

682
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.800
are kind. We booted out the
trolls and it's like to but it's a

683
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:44.960
great, great place to get support
and advice and encouragement and just somewhere to

684
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.480
be honest. Well, Shelley got
through it, yeah, with tons of

685
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:53.000
support, and now her kids are
fine, Yeah, flourishing. It's great.

686
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.199
Yeah, things are going very well, So it's possible to do.

687
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.239
We wish you the best, Melody. Thank you for writing in. Yes,

688
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:01.960
thank you everyone out. Send in
the ladders. Yeah, if you'd

689
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.920
like to write us a letter.
I've got to figure out what's going on

690
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:07.800
with our website. So let's just
give our email address. Yeah, let's

691
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:14.199
do that. Contact at latter day
lesbian dot org. It's dot org dot

692
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.679
o RG. Yes, yeah,
send them there directly. It's easier.

693
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:22.840
Yeah. Right now, I don't
know. Something's fucked up. Well,

694
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:28.039
I'll just blame it on Mary because
chime this this releases, I'm sure it

695
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:29.719
won't be fucked up, so I
would hope so, because it will be

696
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.559
like two months from now this episode
gets released. I'm kidding maybe a month.

697
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.119
We'll see. Yeah, we'll see
how it goes. Why don't we

698
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.159
take our last commercial break and get
into some patron names? Want to?

699
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:44.719
I like it? Be right back? All right? We are back with

700
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.719
exactly five patrons. Can weave it? I know, really weird. I'm

701
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:52.800
reading the names today for some reason. The first patron is, wait,

702
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:54.440
how are we going to do these
names? Oh? Yeah, we talked

703
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.840
about it during the break, but
we didn't say it out loud. We

704
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.280
won't record the game. Microphones were
not Yeah, we're probably just gonna give

705
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:07.119
him some sort of wacky religious ideatic
story thing we can make up our own

706
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.920
beliefs. I mean, why not
everyone else ship? Why not us?

707
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.480
Okay, well, let's see how
Shelley does. The first one is Sarah

708
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:19.920
g g M. Well, goat, what about the goats? You don't

709
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.760
use the goat's breast milk to cook
the goats kids in? Okay, Sarah

710
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:30.079
goat? Sorry Sarah, go ahead
and take that recipe out of you.

711
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:32.559
I really think you should have saved
goat for Billy. Who's coming up?

712
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:37.159
We've got three g names in a
row. Oh God, okay, I

713
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:43.360
The next is b G. That's
funny, b Stay in alive, Stay

714
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:50.119
in ELIVET, stay in ALIVET did
I make Here's the rule? The Holy

715
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:57.800
One sings disco tunes when that person
or whatever being puts their foreskin on angel

716
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:06.679
wings and it gets taken up to
heaven. That one so BG's BIG's So

717
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.320
basically you have the same name,
but it means something different. You welcome

718
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:15.920
Beg's. Well, the next one
is Billy Ge. Sorry, missed opportunity

719
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:24.440
for go fuck Billy g G.
So I think Billy G is going to

720
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:31.480
be gathering in Jackson County, Missouri. There you go. I also want

721
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:37.280
to make sure that Billy understands.
I mean, Billy Gathering should know this,

722
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:43.760
but ke she them, Uh,
make sure you bring your foreskin.

723
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.880
If your foreskin was removed at birth, you could just borrow someone if you

724
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.679
never had foreskin again, borrow a
fur skin, You borrow a foreskin.

725
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:59.280
Ask sometimes you got a bribe.
Huh. So Billy familiar with the foreskin

726
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:00.840
bribery. It doesn't matter. You
make shit up and people believe it.

727
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:05.960
That's what we're doing here. Okay, Yeah, so Billy Gathering get a

728
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.119
foreskin and head to Jackson County,
Missouri. Well didn't we read that verse

729
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.719
one time about how was it King
David that was supposed to bring back foreskins?

730
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:15.159
I don't think it was King David, but it was someone supposed to

731
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:21.440
bring back one hundred four skins.
He trade them for the bride girl that's

732
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.079
worth a hundred four skins, and
he was like, I love her so

733
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:28.199
much, I'm bringing back two hundred. Still not a great gift. Still

734
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.719
not just saying, you know,
Hallmark doesn't have a card for that ecage.

735
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:36.320
They should. We need to start
riding Hallmark cards. Okay, so

736
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:40.840
I know you expected two hundred foreskins
that I caught you this card. I

737
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:44.559
want to think it would take to
draw two hundred foreskins. Oh this is

738
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:46.480
perfect. You know how sometimes cards
have like a little thing taped on the

739
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.159
inside. Oh it pops up.
Well, it could be like the just

740
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.880
you know, the top of the
balloon, like the part you blow into.

741
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:53.880
You just cut that off and it
kind of looks like a foreskin.

742
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.679
And I'm talking, yeah you want
just leave that there? You could tape

743
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.760
it on the inside of the card. But we need two hundred. Well,

744
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:02.519
oh, I only got you this
idea. You know those cards where

745
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:06.400
you open them and they pop open
and all this confetti goes overwhere everywhere?

746
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:13.440
Skins, two hundred of them?
How much does that to mail these hydrated

747
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.199
foreskins? We need to be Yeah, we need to be less stinky.

748
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:22.119
Could we move on? Oh god, so billy gathering, Yeah and thinking

749
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.239
about foreskins? Thank you, slash, We're sorry? All right? Is

750
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:31.840
w w Oh? I got it? Is wine? Like that is wine?

751
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:36.960
And it was water wine water into
wine? Oh yeah, okay,

752
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.199
is water into wine? I like
it. That's a good name. You

753
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:43.360
should get that. I think that
is should get that actually changed on their

754
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:46.199
ID. Please do you go?
Good? Suggestion. Thank you know what

755
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:50.159
to do is yep, let us
know. We'll send you a coffee mug.

756
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:57.599
Last patron for this week Rebecca B. B. You have a note

757
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:00.480
here that Rebecca b is from Australia. Yeah, Rebecca Bee's an Aussie,

758
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:06.920
so we should probably incorporate some kind
of Australian word like barbie another shrimp on

759
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:12.519
the bobby. All right, I
got this, so Shelley, Shelley's accent.

760
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:15.280
This is about to be a long
story into your new last name.

761
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:20.920
That's not terrible, you know,
you know, Rebecca's like, shut the

762
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:30.480
fuck up, sorry, Rebecca Waltzing
Matilda, Waltzing Matilda. Sorry, we'll

763
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:37.599
get it. Sorry right now.
Recca's like, you stupid as did you

764
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.119
bring the gear? It's like everything
we know is from what was that present?

765
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:45.480
Sure went went that crocodile hunters?
You know, it's a what if

766
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:49.519
they say instead of getting sucked up, they always said something that's getting It

767
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:52.400
wasn't screwed up, it was something
else. I'm sure rebeccasca what I don't

768
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:57.599
know, what the hell something?
Anyway, Rebecca's new last name is supposed

769
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.280
to be a bee, right,
be barbecue and you know why put another

770
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:06.800
shrimp on the bobby? But how
does it say? How say you want

771
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.719
me to do an accent? Yes? Do you always do the accent?

772
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:13.079
I'm not good on the in the
American accent. Put another shrimp on the

773
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.039
barbie. But it's not a shrimp. It's put another pig on the barbie.

774
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:20.480
Oh, the pig has the devil
has the devil. Also it's a

775
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.840
demon. It's a demon spirit that
was cast out from the human beings by

776
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:36.360
God. Barbecue demon pork demon yam
sauce, diablo sauce ding ding ding ding

777
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:42.159
ding. That's all there you go, Rebecca Barbecue, that's your name,

778
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:47.119
and put another This is really weird. Okay, we got um. Yeah,

779
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:50.519
thanks to all the patrons we have. Thank you for real. We

780
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:54.960
have one super cast member today.
Kayla Oh all right, Kayla oh,

781
00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:00.039
because giants have already been taken,
We're gonna go with Kayla Ogres. So

782
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.400
Ogres came about when did you use
giants earlier? And her name doesn't start

783
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.599
with ge anyway. Oh, God
damnit, Mary, I'm talking about in

784
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:13.679
the episode we were talking about,
there's the giants that Yeah, we're on

785
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.519
the earth because women slept with demigods. Right, giants have been taken.

786
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:21.320
Oh, Ogres, we have to
come up with a new thing to teach

787
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:25.400
our children to fuck them up.
So Ogres. Yeah, we're brought about

788
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:34.199
by virgin women sleeping with aliens.
Oh, we're gonna mix in a little

789
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:38.960
scientology to this. Yeah, okay, okay, and finding Mary. Oh

790
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:44.679
sure, bring her into it in
Missouri and Missouri in the side of a

791
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:51.320
tree trunk underneath a tree in Pelmira, New York, next to the Golden

792
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:55.880
plates. But people will believe that
it huh. So Kayla has to have

793
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.480
a last name Ogre. Sorry,
Kayla. Yeah, you know what's funny

794
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:05.039
and fucked up about all this is
everything we've said sounds so wonky and crazy.

795
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.559
Is it any crazier? Though?
It's not. That's what I'm saying.

796
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:14.159
It's not any crazier. It's really
not Jesus and we believed it did.

797
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.199
Yeah, we believed it. I'm
gonna go eat some some Jesus flesh

798
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.760
now and walk and see word ends
up. See when it becomes Jesus.

799
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.400
I'm gonna go eat at Jesus cracker. You need to eat it and have

800
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:27.519
like an ultrasound or something. Yeah, That's that's what I'm doing this afternoon.

801
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:36.280
Okay, join us live for Shelley's
waggy ultrasound eating going in there even

802
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:37.719
better if it was like like a
Catholic hospital and be like, so,

803
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.639
here's what's up. I want to
see. At what point does it become

804
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.559
Jesus and my system? Huh?
Does insurance cover those kind of ultrasounds?

805
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.440
Huh? That's right up there with
that doctor that makes house calls in Vegas,

806
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.440
Like when you're hungover, you can
just get an IVY. I know

807
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:59.519
that would be real handy sometimes.
Well, thank you everyone for your support.

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We could not do this podcast without
you. We really couldn't. We

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really couldn't. If you would like
to show us some support once the website

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is fixed, hopefully by the time
this episode is a latter b I know,

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please visit Latter Day Lesbian dot org
slash support and throw us a little

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love. We appreciate that, and
we appreciate Dan from Extension Audio thanks for

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leaving Eden. Dan, thanks to
you and everyone listening, and remember steer

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clear of cults because they are no
joke, no joke at all. Talked

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everybody later. Bye,