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Well, happy Monday morning here on
the marcast. Early Monday, one of

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our correspondents, Evans, got to
fly out. We had a live correspondent

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at the game this weekend. That
moving up our production values there, but

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lots of talk about today. I
thought this was a tremendously exciting weekend.

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We gotta get in everyone here.
The Thursday obviously highlight of my life here

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just in terms of the roller coaster. But we'll get through everything. Jason,

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how are you doing? I'm doing
good. Read how are you?

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We're good that Evan, Evan traveling
for the Mark has this weekend spend time

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in BC. How is that?
It was great? You know, we'll

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get into that. I mean that
game specifically was over pretty quickly, but

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you know, it was definitely always
nice to see, you know, a

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CFL team play, or especially BC
in this case, given how well they've

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they've been this year. But yeah, overall, it was great, great

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experience. I always love coming up
here. Yeah, I message Evan,

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I said, if the Evanton game
hadn't happened, you probably could have left

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halftime at BC. But then you're
like, you don't you don't know,

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no leader, stay've been here.
But I can't wait to get to the

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Thursday game. But we'll get through
everything else we had here. Just I

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guess the notes real quick breaking whatever
this tie Cats trade to kind of fill

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in, right, Mason's injured and
Della Gallas died doing good? Jason,

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what do you make of this?
And we'll get Evan's thoughts. Well,

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I was reading that the tie Cats
punter Bailey Flint is actually he's injured right

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now, so maybe that's the reason
behind the trade for them. Pitkin didn't

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played for them. I think he
signed a couple of weeks ago with the

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Tiecats, didn't really get into any
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don't think they lose too much from
that. Pipkin actually was briefly a CFL

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starter back in twenty nineteen, actually
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so he does have a bit of
CFL experience. Has played a little

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bit with DC over the past couple
of years as well, so maybe he

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gets into the starting lineup. Was
the scatch one they really struggling right now

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with their quarterback situation. We'll get
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that's the reasoning behind the trade for
both themes. And then you had some

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insights as while we were talking of
Kim. Yeah, I mean, you

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know, Saskatchewan needed a quarterback,
and I think they went after somebody who

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had a bit of experience in the
CFL. You know, obviously Antonio Pipkin

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isn't a botafied starter, but he
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at this point. He does have
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mean, he wasn't with you know, Hamilton for that long, so it's

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not like they were really latched on
him. And now Hamilton just acquired Mike

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Glass, who was with the Allouettes
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works out both ways. And you
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punter to a high upside global punter, I believe. So I don't know,

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I mean it, I think it's
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Saskatchewan is in kind of a desperate
situation, and it's it's rare that

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you see a quarterback punch or trade, or even a quarterback trade in general

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nowadays. But you know, it
looks like Antonio Pipkin has a greater chance

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to appear in some games in Saskatchewan
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like I said, I Jamie and
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green zone up there, and we're
friends on Twitter and I kind of gauge

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Saskatchewan kind of welfare checks on his
tweets and you know he's gonna you know,

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fins not doing good. They're dele
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end of the world. So we'll
get to Saskatchewan. But yeah, definitely

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kind of figuring that out. And
then that we do your miss we have

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to talk. Nathan Work had this
big you know, we can talk because

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I know they play that. I
want to get Evans taken during the BC

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game when they played it during the
game. But you know, we still

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exist, you know, Nathan Work
and the CFL. We're playing all that.

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What did you guys think of this? Uh, we'll go Evan for

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just kind of really live viral.
I mean Patrick Mahomes was tweeting about this

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kind of Nathan Work standout. Yeah, well it was pretty cool. You

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know. So I was at a
Lions game last year when Nathan Roorke was

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starting one of his last starts really
before he got injured, and it was

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just so cool to be there,
you know, at the game in BC

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and then they're showing that a year
after. You know, I had been

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there when he was starting. All
around. I mean, just a great

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play. And you know, whether
or not you knew Nathan Rourke going into

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that game, I think you know, I mean, he really took the

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NFL by storm. I mean,
that was one of the best preseason plays

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I think we'd seen in a long
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from him, you know, of
course us everyone who was on the stream,

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you know, we know who he
is, we know what he did

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last year before the injury, but
a lot of people didn't. For a

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lot of people, this was the
first time they had really heard of Nathan

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Rourke. And you know, we
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moment being you know, one where
you kind of get humbled pretty quickly,

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But I think this was the opposite, you know, this was this was

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I mean one of the best plays
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just in that one play, I
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I don't know, but there was
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and outside of that play too.
I mean, he looked really good.

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It wasn't just that one play.
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was in there for a good chunk
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plays too that looked promising. So
yeah, it was. It was great

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to see Nathan do that, and
even better to be in BC where you

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know, people really appreciated it.
And I don't think they played the clip

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until it might have been between the
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like during the TV break, so
it took him a bit. We thought

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it might it might happen at halftime
because the play had happened pretty early on

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in this BC game, but you
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the media team or whatever. But
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to showing it because I was a
bit worried that they working to capitalize on

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that and it would be a great
opportunity to engage with the fans. You

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know, your old quarterback going to
the NFL. You know, he's fighting

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for a shot and then he does
something like this. I mean, how

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can you not like that? Yeah, CFL doesn't shake me as the quickest

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movie that departs. And that's like
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gotta play this right now. That
I was like Mike like, let's we'll

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be happy if they play it by
the time the games everye They tweeted the

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steazy nay, it owns your franchise. I had to. I had the

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old man google like what steezy means, and make said it was like an

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old Brooklyn term, like me in
school or whatever. Jason, did you

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like this? Like we I don't
know. I feel like we get made

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fun of sometimes for the XFL,
Like when our players do stuff, it's

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the same thing. I mean,
it's like you're either CFL feels the same

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way. Hey, this is our
child out here. Someone commented on one

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of them, like I would hear
it was, you know, CFL legend

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Nathan Work and they said, I
would hardly call him the CFL legend.

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He played really good for half the
season and the bailed. Yeah, I

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mean, just to echo with Evans
said, it was, you know,

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you can't ask for a better start
in the NFL for for Rourke, and

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I think anytime you see a player
that played in the CFL or one of

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these other leagues thriving in the NFL, I think it's really exciting. I'm

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just always happy for the player,
and I'm really excited to see what he

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can do in the coming weeks and
if you can earn a spot on this

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Jacksonville jack Boards roster. Yeah,
they had. Farhan had the quote they

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were talking with Peterson. Yeah,
they had, like Naylor was down there

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and far I mean they really all
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I mean know Farhan was back for
the BC game, but he had been

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traveling last week I think for training
camp. Naylor. Yeah, Peterson was

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saying incredible poison all that. So
that's cool. I mean, it's exciting,

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but I didn't think you think that
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called this the CLA Andie Murray said, this guy's gonna get murdered here on

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the on the thing. So let's
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and nothing apparently play it according to
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win last night, like Chad Kelly
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But this this Shag Kelly video game
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Jason, do you want to start
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it was in danger, but then
Argos by the time I had the game

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on, they had kind of put
it to bed. Yeah, So I

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think that this was a really fun
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I think it was probably the high
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this season. And I think that
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is that Chad Kelly really stuck his
claim in the MLP race. I thought

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that the last couple of weeks it
looked like maybe Zach Claris was like statistically

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it looked like it wasn't very close. But I think that this with a

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four hundred yard and a four touchdown
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an interesting race here, and I
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to follow the rest of the season. And I think that, you know,

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for the Argos, it was just
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track after you know, an injury
pliged week last week. So I think

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that, you know, all signs
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Evan, what did you make of
this? And I thought it was funny

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they had the graphic up and Mike
was tweeting the CFL had Chad Kelly of

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twenty eight for twenty one to temphs
and then Mike had the tweet at the

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office and be like though it was
twenty one twenty eight, it's still are

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still an incredible performance even if we're
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Times What did you make of this? But by Jack? Yeah, dare

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I, dare I bring up the
stats issue again, but all of us,

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No, this game was definitely kind
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I know Edmonton and Winnipeg got pretty
high scoring, but of course that

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was a completely different tale in my
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game flow went. I mean,
this was pretty back and forth. Toronto,

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you know, pulled away in the
second half, but like Ottawa wasn't

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going away. And you know,
a lot of the credit in this game

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was going to go to Chad Kelly
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You have people like Emery Hunt saying, you know, if he's not MP,

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I don't know who is at this
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maybe Zach Claros, but I would
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This was a great bounceback performance from
Toronto, you know, after what

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happened last week when Kelly got injured
and Cam Dukes had to come in against

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Calgary. I thought they bounced back
really nicely here. Just an all around

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complete performance again, you know,
I sometimes it's hard to believe just how

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high scoring their offense. And I
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on par I think, you know, the term defense wins championships is used

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a lot, and I think their
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to the task. I know Robertson
Daniel had two sacks in this game and

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he I think set the argos.
I don't know if it's all time team

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record, but he had sixteen tackles
last week, which was the most I

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think for an individual in the game. I don't know, maybe you get

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Mike Mitchell to clarify that, but
I'm pretty sure it was some record.

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So yeah, all around great performance
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focus on Ottawa and what enough people
in the media or not enough people rather

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in the media are going to say, is I mean, this was arguably

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dust and Crumb, you know,
his most complete performance of the season,

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you know, from a passing perspective, I don't think we've seen this from

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him yet. Where he goes out
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completion percentage, you know, just
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no turnovers. You know, in
previous games, we've talked a lot

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about, you know, his ability
to run. I mean, yeah,

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he can throw the ball. He's
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for those couple of weeks where he
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first game or whatever. But this
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focus more on his passing and what
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think that's really important, and even
more important maybe was the guy he was

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connecting to a lot, Jayalen Acklin. I've personally been waiting a long time

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to see Jalen Acklin have a performance
like this this year. I know it's

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been a slow start for him coming
over from Hamilton, just kind of getting

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adjusted. And I think, you
know, had Jeremiah has solely been the

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start of this season, you might
have seen more of Jaleen Aklin just given

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that familiarity. But yeah, ultimately, you know, I thought this was

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a great game, you know,
one of the more entertaining ones of the

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weekend. And you know, while
Toronto ended up being the team that won,

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and you could argue that they were
more impressive. I mean, I

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think this was a good sign for
Ottawa, you know, getting back in

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the right direction. I mean,
Toronto is such a tough opponent. It's

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gonna be hard to just win outright
against him. But if you can go

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out there and you have a guy
like Dustin Crumb, you know, with

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such a complete performance, if you
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think Otto was in a good position
for the rest of the season, and

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that especially matters. You know,
we talked last week about the standings in

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the East. I mean it's either
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I know they haven't had those divisional
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if they can just keep winning,
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Right? Yeah, we need to
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deep dive here when we get to
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because here we have Destin Crumb.
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I really thought he was a one
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whole time and Crumb sanity and well
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putting you know, putting up almost
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he's doubling what Jake Mayer did in
the BC game, and I know BC

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lockdown, but you know Mayor's had
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to the game. You know,
a third of his games whatever this year

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been under one hundred and fifty yards
pass. I mean he's really been struggling

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to kind of get the ball down
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Destin Crime, you're tween ninety two
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if I'll needs it tweet this out. Almost nine hundred yards of offense here.

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You know, chunk plays all over
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entertaining. What did you make of
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like Evan said, it was probably
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and the way that he was able
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and this one was very impressive.
It was even more impressive considering they were

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going against the really good Argo's defense
that you know, at points in this

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game, they were just moving up
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running game got going at times as
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reflect it in the box score,
but I think that that was a good

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sign for them. But my biggest
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games. I think they've allowed over
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games straight, So I think that's
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of wide open receivers. Demorris Daniels
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just wide open right behind the defense. So I think that's a huge concern

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and issue they'll have to fix if
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year. But yeah, the offense
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I got on the game, like
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the game to bed here in the
last quarter, you know, imagine having

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Andrew Harris on your team and not
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he's like an after that at this
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everyone, running down the field,
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stand that performance. Right, he
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I think he's been not kind of
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But good to see him again with
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mean the argos look really good.
I know it was kind of fluky last

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week. Evan, What do you
like did come to bounce back like this?

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I mean it wasn't just Chad's back
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just I don't know that we kind
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What did you make of Toronto having
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mean it was a couple of things, you know. I mean, being

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at home always helps. I just
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having Chad Kelly in for the full
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the balance between the run game and
the receiving game is important as well,

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because in this game he had,
you know, a j Lett who you

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know, had one of his better
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pretty consistent at this point, I
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had that combined with a guy like
Davar Daniels, who I think had three

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touch downs. You know, once
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you're going to have that kind of
balanced performance where you have a rusher close

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to one hundred yards and a top
receiver who's kind of catching everything that's thrown

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his way. They also had another
hundred yard receiver there too, and camp

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Phillips. You know, it's just
it's an offensive explosion essentially, and I

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think, you know, I mean, we'll get into BC, but I

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think it's sort of a similar type
of hunger, you know, where you

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come back. You know, you're
you lose to a team that you you

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know, either weren't supposed to lose
two or you lost in dramatic fashion,

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you know, and you want to
make sure that people don't lose confidence in

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you. So then you go out
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you blow the other team out.
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that. How do we feel about
Ottawa here, Jason in terms of looking

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good? You know, obviously three
and six here, it could be better.

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I don't know. I mean,
I feel like they have a lot

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of pieces. Is there in that
fear going forward? Yeah? I mean,

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I'm just trying to think how many
wins they'll probably need to get into

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the playoffs. I don't see Hamilton
racking up a whole bunch of them in

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this last half of the season here, So I mean, it's really gonna

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come down to how many wins they
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season, and I think that,
you know, the biggest problem with them

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is they cannot beat Hamilton for the
life of them. And I think they've

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already lost the season series to them. They have one more game left,

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but you know that could be another
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go to Ottawa. So I'm really
interested to see how that plays out.

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So I think that it's gonna come
down to you know, I haven't really

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broken down the schedules for each team, but the remaining schedules for each team

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I think is what's going to really
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Montreal is looking really good. I
mean, even with the loss his

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name had, I mean really good, kind of getting those pieces and you

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know, we're gonna get Cuddie back
and kind of do all that. I

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mean, they had tremendously. We'll
get to that. But the tremendous game

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this week, even with all that, I don't know, I just feel

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like they've suffered a lot this year
with them as always, evit all and

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everything else, and I just I
don't know if there's enough there, but

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I do. I do think it's
cool that Dustin Crum, like you know

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here, It's cool to me like
here, we're thinking, like believe I

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that's going to be the story of
the season. The quarterback here, we

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have this guy like no, you
know, no one thought comes in plays

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great kind of rallying that Evan.
Then the other takeaways from Toronto or Ottawa.

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No, I mean, I'll just
kind of go back to the whole

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standings point for a bit. I
think, you know, Ottawa, like

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I said earlier, I mean,
yeah, they lost the season series to

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Hamilton, and that puts them in
an extreme disadvantage unfortunately. But I mean

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there's still in I mean, you
know, we're going on week eleven,

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there's still a lot of time to
make up for that. Again, I

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think the way Ottawa played yesterday,
if this wasn't against you know, Toronto,

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I think I mean maybe I don't
know, you throw Winnipeg in there.

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If it wasn't against either those two
teams, I think they probably would

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have won. And I don't know
BC two, So maybe that's maybe maybe

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that's not validating my point very much. But ultimately, again what I'm getting

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at here is, to me,
it was such a complete performance, especially

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in the in the first half.
If they can carry that momentum moving forward,

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in their games. I mean,
I think they can turn the ship

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around pretty quickly, more quick than
a lot of people expected. I think,

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well, yeah, and I would
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it's just it's tough with with the
divisions and now it's all like you know,

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laid out there. The other thing
that I'm just interesting with that Toronto

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and all of this because they're going
on there their third bye week here,

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third bye week coming in and then
a long stretch because I've been trying to

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work through the Toronto office to get
some people on the show and they say,

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you know, follow up with this
after the last buy herb here is

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tweeting out, Yeah, Dan,
July third had been their last home game.

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Now they play, they played the
game. I think they've only had

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three home games this season now going
on to buy I mean, it's just

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crazy, this crazy scheduling. I
don't know. I mean, I'm really

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kind of concerned for Toronto down the
long run here where you got to play

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however many weeks in the row here, Jason, any thoughts on this kind

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of this extended second half of the
season. Yeah, I mean, I'm

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just so over all these you know, every team, one team happened to

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be off every week and like just
you know, every team playing like a

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different number of games at this point
of the season. Like yeah, like

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you said, Toronto's already to have
their third bye week and they played like

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two games less than some other teams. So I mean, I'm just getting

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frustrated with it at this point.
I mean, we're living with this for

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since twenty fourteen when Audible came back
into the league. But I mean,

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this is just the biggest reason selfishly
why I want that tenth team just to

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fix all of these you know,
buyo week issues so we never have to

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deal with it again. It's just
weird. I don't know. I just

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think there's such a better way you
could do it. And the comments I

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always see is like even with the
bias, I mean, there are better

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ways and not having trying to have
the week one off and not doing this

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and not doing that, Evan anything
else on this game. We'll move on.

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No, Okay, all right,
let's get here. Is this is

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this? Uh we got the BC
one here. Let me get out of

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this. H you know this was
a coming out party here, Evan was

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here. I'll let Evan get first
takes on this we had our live correspondent

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Calgary at BC. Yeah, this
game was I mean I was there for

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you know, I'm trying to get
up there the BC for a game every

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year now, and you know,
this one very similar to when I went

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last year against Edmonton. After the
first quarter, really, you know,

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by definitely midway through the second,
like you already kind of knew which way

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it was going to go. So
I don't know that has its pros and

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cons. I've been very fortunate,
you know, last year I saw Nathan

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Rourke obviously have a career game,
and then honestly even you know that this

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was one of Vernon's better games of
this season, and I've been wanting to

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see him in person for a long
time. So extremely happy that he was

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able to bounce back off the injury
and comes in and you know, kind

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of, I think any doubt and
you could definitely tell amongst the crowd any

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doubt that they had in Vernon coming
off that injury, thinking he might be

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slow or it might take him a
bit of time to get up to speed.

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All that went away, you know, within the first couple of plays,

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because they scored on their first drive, and you know at one point,

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it was seventeen nothing, and I'm
just like, all right, well

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Timmy as well. Yeah, I
think you said it perfectly, Reid.

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Had the Edmonton game not happened,
we would have just wrapped it up right

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then and there. But ultimately,
from a more you know, statistical perspective,

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yeah, I mean this game was
over very quickly. I thought Vernon

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Adams did a great job. They
were really more it was definitely more pass

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heavy that they had Jaquamazelle in the
lineup, but they didn't really need much

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of him, to be honest.
Between him, between Keian Hatcher and Alexander

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Hollins, those guys were, you
know, doing their job and doing it

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like nobody else. You know that
those were the guys that really stepped up

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this week obviously. And then yeah, I mean Calgary, I don't know,

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I was disappointed. You know.
Last year I saw Edmonton and I

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understood the position Edmonton was in,
and I said, Okay, when I

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come up for a game next year, you know, I'm going to try

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and see, you know, maybe
a more competitive opponent. And Calgary.

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I mean, look, I understand
Calgary hasn't been great this season. Right,

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We've talked a lot about their issues
and their struggles, and at this

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point it's going to be hard for
them to even keep up with Saskatchewan.

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I think we'll see how their situation
plays out. But ultimately, you know,

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Calgary was just extremely disappointing. I
expected a lot more out of them,

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and you know, Jake Mayer,
I don't know. Again, I've

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I've been a fan of Jake Mayer
for years now, and I was excited

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to see him in person, but
the excitement quickly went away, you know,

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after I realized he just wasn't going
to be able to do much and

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there wasn't a lot of opportunities.
So yeah, I mean, you know,

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very slow day for him, very
slow day for the team as a

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whole. Again, they just they
had no answer. You know, that's

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a I think we say that too
much in football. Oh the other team

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didn't have an answer? Well,
they really didn't. I mean, Vernon,

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like those guys were just ready to
go and Calgary wasn't. That's that's

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the main takeaway I had from this
game. Is as boring as that sounds,

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it was just, you know,
there was really no hope for the

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Stamps even you know, again,
by the second quarter, I was like,

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well, it's gonna take an absolute
miracle. I mean, Jake Mayer

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is gonna have to play, you
know, the game of his life to

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get back in this one. And
yeah, clearly that didn't happen. So

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overall, you know, look,
I was impressed. I mean BC clearly

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you know, making their steak.
You know, we're still in it in

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the West. Part of me did
think that this was gonna happen, just

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because we talked at length last week
about their loss to Winnipeg and how obviously

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it's a good football team, they
just need to have a really good bounce

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back game to kind of, you
know, reassure that confidence and everybody,

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which is exactly what happened. So
in terms of the blowout aspect, I

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don't know. Part of me maybe
expected that. I just didn't want to

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admit it, but yeah, overall, you know, BC a game that

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they definitely needed to stay at the
top of the West. And I think

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if you're a Calgary fan, you
leave this game with a lot of questions.

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I don't know, I mean,
having been there in person, there's

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just a lot of questions, like, it's to a point where would you

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even want to see that team in
the playoffs. I think, yeah,

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they were showing the flashbacks like we've
been vernon last year because he had come

410
00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.400
in when Nate went down and showing
the oh, they have these crazy games

411
00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:41.839
last year, Like it is a
far cry from these committed the matchups last

412
00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.240
year and those were some of the
highlights of the season last year for BC.

413
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.279
Jason, what do you make of
this? Well, I think that

414
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.279
this game really does showcase the difference
in coaching philosophy on offense for both of

415
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.359
these two teams. You know,
look at BC, they take shots down

416
00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.640
the field, they take risks,
and that's what you need in the CFL

417
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.920
to seed in a three down league. You need to create big plays.

418
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:06.880
It's very hard to be that methodical
offense and you know, you know,

419
00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.240
score a lot of points during games. And then Calgary on the other hand,

420
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:14.799
very conservative offense, very few passes
beyond ten yards, a lot of

421
00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:17.640
you know runs, a lot of
you know, short pass a lot of

422
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.680
screens, a lot of slants,
and I think that just doesn't get it

423
00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:22.559
done right now in the current CFL. You look at the teams that are

424
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.680
thriving right now, it's the teams
that are willing to push the ball down

425
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.519
the field even look at we'll get
to it. Drew Brown this week with

426
00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.640
the Winnipeg he came into the game
and they pushed the ball down the field

427
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.079
and had success. So I think
that was really missing, especially when you

428
00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.039
consider that BC got burned by Winnipeg
last week by the past deep down the

429
00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:45.599
field. So I think that it
was very disappointing that Calgary didn't test that.

430
00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.079
And I think that it's just a
very concerning situation, like Evan said,

431
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.559
in Calgary right now, and I
you know, one of these teams

432
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.559
is gonna have to make the playoffs
in the West. This catchworer Calgary.

433
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.000
Don't know who it's gonna be,
but unfortunately we're gonna have to see one

434
00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:02.559
of these teams in the play offs
this year. And that's another general theme

435
00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:06.079
of the season so far. I
think there's really only like four good teams.

436
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:07.160
I would have said only three a
couple of weeks ago, but I

437
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.799
think Montreal is really rounding into form
and becoming that fourth team. But other

438
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.599
than that, I think it's kind
of a waste land. The rest of

439
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.440
the teams of the CFL right now, well, it's crazy and I had

440
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:22.200
the stat here. I know,
I had this save with Hodge. You

441
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:23.799
know, Mayor's always throw him for
fewer than one hundred fifty yards and three

442
00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:29.000
of his nine starts this season,
I mean he had if you go back

443
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:33.480
on here, he had one hundred
and thirty one yards total. Vernon had

444
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.160
like one hundred and fifty in the
first quarter. I mean, it was

445
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:41.119
crazy, like the stats because I
had seen I was rewatching the game yesterday.

446
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.200
I had seen the stats coming out
of the game, rewatched it,

447
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.240
and I'm like he had and I'm
looking up. This is crazy. I

448
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:51.480
mean, yeah, Kean Hatcher really
coming into form. I can't decide kind

449
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:56.759
of who who is the standout receiver
for BC here. You know, we

450
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.960
had Dommini crimes out again. It's
just incredible to me the talent that Vernon

451
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.039
has there. But yeah, Jake, something's wrong there. I mean,

452
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:07.279
it was a bad weekend for the
Dickinson brothers. I saw that tweet out

453
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.400
as well, you know, both
of them kind of getting slashed. Is

454
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:15.519
there enough to salvage here, Jason
for Calgary? I think that, Yeah,

455
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.160
it's it's really tough, and I
think this is a good example of

456
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:22.039
a you know, like it's we've
seen guys in the CFL. The first

457
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:26.519
ten or so starts or fifteen or
so starts have a lot of success,

458
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.920
and you know, like people will
say, Okay, they're they're they're gonna

459
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.920
be the next guy, but then
they you know, the next fifteen starts

460
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:41.519
are really another test of itself because
of you know, the defenses get film

461
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.160
on them and they really really figure
them out. And I think this is

462
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.920
very comparable to the Dane Evans situation
that we had last year, and I

463
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.480
think that Mayer could still turn it
around. I think some of these issues

464
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.240
are due to coaching and just kind
of the staleness of the play calling in

465
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:56.880
Calgary, but I do think a
lot of it is on Jake Mayre and

466
00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.359
I think he needs to get better
obviously for this team to win going forward.

467
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.599
Yeah, Evan, you what do
you attribute that to? They had

468
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.559
that Farhan had the quote He's like, well, I tied with Jake and

469
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.160
h he doesn't want to be known
as assistant quarterback and he wants to be

470
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:12.920
able to do all this and okay, well whatever they need me to do.

471
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:15.880
I mean, do you blame Mayor's
regression kind of on him? Or

472
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.720
on the coaching. They're both.
I mean, I think it's a bit

473
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.079
of both in every situation, but
because I was at the game on Saturday,

474
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.680
I do blame it more on on
coaching philosophy. That's not to say

475
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.160
Mayor has a lot of work to
do, and of course I still believe

476
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.720
in him. I've gone on record
saying that. But I think ultimately what

477
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.160
this is is, you know,
Jason said it perfectly where you know,

478
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.559
BC has been this team now for
really, I mean going back to last

479
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.920
year since they had Rourke. You
know, they're not afraid of anything,

480
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.200
you know, if they're like they're
just gonna throw it up. I mean

481
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.279
that first drive, like it was
just you know, big play, big

482
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:49.640
play, big play, touchdown done, you know, and then and they

483
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.920
did that again. They kept doing
that, and then that's how you know

484
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:57.160
the game was already out of reach
because Calgary kept trying this conservative system and

485
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.119
you know, I was really waiting
for Jake Mayor to throw a couple of

486
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.880
deep balls, but it didn't happen. And ultimately, yeah, I mean

487
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.440
in the three down League, I
mean, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

488
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.519
repeat everything Jason said. I mean, you have to you have to create

489
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.680
big plays, you have to do
what what teams like BC and Winnipeg do

490
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:15.519
on a regular basis, even Toronto
now, you know, and these are

491
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.920
all the teams that are you know, rising to be the top of the

492
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.680
league. And then the true Gray
Cup contenders are the teams that have these

493
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.400
sort of explosive, dynamic offenses where
you have you know, multiple receivers that

494
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.720
can go down, you know,
and do their thing ultimately. So yeah,

495
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.920
I mean, I think it's really
more coaching philosophy. I think Calgary

496
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.960
was, you know, just way
too conservative. And I can get being

497
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.359
conservative early, but I mean if
you looked at that score going even to

498
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.920
you know, in like the second
quarter, I'm like, they gotta start

499
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:49.200
moving and it just never happened.
It just never came. And BC like

500
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.279
they they just kept doing it.
I mean, you know they you know,

501
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.279
it was to the point where they
put Dom Davison you know, in

502
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:59.880
the in the fourth quarter because it
was already so far gone. And you

503
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.279
know, when when the team's putting
in another quarterback, you know, in

504
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.640
the fourth quarter, you know,
because of a score. I mean that's

505
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.599
when that's when you feel embarrassed as
the losing team because then you're you know,

506
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.559
I mean, I shouldn't even have
to say that, but you know,

507
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:18.200
ultimately, yeah, I mean getting
back to just Calgary's sort of stance.

508
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.440
I mean, if you're gonna I
still, as crazy as it so

509
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.400
sounds, I still think they have
a game or two to kind of figure

510
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.720
things out. And I think,
just given sort of what I could see

511
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:33.000
from where I was sitting in the
overall atmosphere, like there is a frustration

512
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.200
there and I think that this game
really reminded them of what they need to

513
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.839
figure out, even though they've had
a couple of positive moments this season,

514
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.640
and I think, you know,
coming off that win against Toronto, I

515
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.519
think they thought they did have some
momentum, but clearly BC's just a different

516
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.640
a different beast when they're fully healthy. So I don't know. I think

517
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.559
Calgary has a game or two to
figure it out, but I don't know

518
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.279
if they dropped. If they dropped
the next two and they go to three

519
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.799
and eight, I'm taking Saskatchewan for
the playoff spot already, and I don't

520
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.759
really I know, Saskatchewan might even
have more questions, but you know,

521
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.880
they have an extra win right now, and I feel more confident about that,

522
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:08.640
even if I don't know what I
said last week. I was kind

523
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.599
of on defense. I think I
leaned towards Calgary, but I don't know.

524
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.119
Now that I've seen him in person, I think my opinion has changed

525
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.160
a bit. Well, it's just
crazy here we get cold even carried back

526
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.279
right because he hasn't played I think
since Week one. It's like seven carries

527
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:25.200
furs. I mean, they just
didn't do anything here. It's just remarkable

528
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.559
to me, how like futile this
offense is. Jason thoughts on that,

529
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.480
and then I want to get thoughts
on how kind of Vernon looks coming back,

530
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.920
but just how just future. I
know you're talking like no big shoe,

531
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:40.319
but they didn't do anything. Yeah, they just they you know,

532
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.680
last year they were a pretty like
conservative offense. They didn't really get too

533
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.799
many big plays. I think,
you know, maybe Willie Henry was really

534
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.119
their their deep threat you could call
it. But I think that, you

535
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.400
know, they were able to run
the ball very consistently last year, and

536
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.039
they just haven't been that dominant running
team that we saw last year. And

537
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.720
I think that that's a big reason
why they're a significant the worst team that

538
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.759
they were a year ago. The
other thing Vernon coming back, and they

539
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:08.440
made notes him having the knee brace
and did he need more time off day's

540
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.880
beat up? So Vernon came back. He had one. There was one

541
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.880
point where I think one of his
o linemen like stepped on his toe or

542
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.799
something. But he looks pretty good. Did you how did you feel like

543
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.559
he came because I mean that's the
one thing with Vernon as I do feel

544
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:26.240
like he you know, is a
little fragilely sometimes. Jason first, Oh,

545
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.160
oh yeah, I thought it was
really good to see Vernon back in

546
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.400
the fold. I think that the
biggest thing. He was moving around very

547
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.240
well. He had that classic you
know Vernon Adams play extension ability and you

548
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.799
know, improvisational ability to you know, throw a couple of touchdowns in this

549
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.119
game. So I thought that was
really impressive and really good to see.

550
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.279
And you know, if he could
just play like he did earlier this season,

551
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:49.759
which he did in this game,
I think that this team is one

552
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.759
of only really three teams in my
opinion, that can win a Great Cup

553
00:31:53.839 --> 00:32:00.319
this season. Evan thoughts on VA. I mean, yeah, he had

554
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:02.599
about as good of a performance as
you ask for. He had one,

555
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.160
uh sort of mishap. It was
towards you know, they were getting ready

556
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.880
to score. I don't know,
it might have been at the twenty or

557
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:15.039
something, and he tossed an interception. I would say that was more his

558
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.000
fault. But you know, other
than that, I mean he cleaned that

559
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.519
up pretty quickly, and you know
that they didn't have a problem get getting

560
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.200
back in it. I mean,
it's certainly slowed down. I mean,

561
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.240
had that not happened, it might
have been you know, forty four to

562
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.519
nine or whatever. But I mean, yeah, like you can't you can't

563
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:31.960
fault him for that. Other than
that, I mean he was he was

564
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:36.920
dealing left and right and clearly.
I mean you can tell, like you

565
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.920
know, this week it was Kean
Hatcher and Alexander Hollins, but you can

566
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:44.640
tell he doesn't have hesitation going to
his other guys either. It's just kind

567
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:45.920
of who's ever there at the right
time. I mean, you know,

568
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:52.599
I cannot tell you enough about how
diverse the BC Receiving Corps is and that

569
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:58.279
having an opportunity to see that in
person only made me feel better about them

570
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.200
moving forward. And again you talk
about possibility of winning a Gray Cup.

571
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:08.279
I think that receiving core diversity will
be the ultimate factor in that considering them

572
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.200
make it as far as that game, Yeah, I think And they were

573
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.920
commenting that too. Vernon doing a
good job dishing it out right. And

574
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.519
I think we've talked to here on
here before, like BC, none of

575
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.039
them need to be hero ball,
you know, they're happy kind of having

576
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.279
the ball go around. Yeah,
I thought that interception was was quite poor.

577
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.119
The mystery by Vernon. I think
that whatever the defensive guy jumped back

578
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.440
in and kind of picked that up. But what I liked and it start

579
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.880
it guy was getting to the point
where BC really does have kind of like

580
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.599
that running up ability where they can
kind of play volleyball. And it felt

581
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.279
like that like I don't know,
I mean, I know, we just

582
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.799
you know, we'll get to the
Edmonton of it all, like Calgary.

583
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.119
Winnipeg is not Calgary, you know, like Calgary. I don't see you

584
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.799
know, them them being down twenty
points like oh yeah, they're gonna come

585
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.680
back here and they're gonna rally.
I mean, BC can really pile it

586
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.960
on and I think it's exciting.
Jason in terms of you know, obviously

587
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.680
the mishap and everything it gets Winnipeg
here, but do you still felt pretty

588
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.079
high on BC and kind of their
chances. Yeah? Absolutely. I Like

589
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.800
I said last week, are on
our preview show for week ten that I

590
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.599
think it was just to burn the
tape kind of game last week for BC,

591
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.840
and they really did put it behind
them and that really beaten inferior opponent

592
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.760
pretty badly. Here, anything else
on this one, Evan and the other

593
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.559
notes? I had the clip we
had where they were getting all geeked out

594
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.960
with the Nathan Marker value. Do
you have anything else on this one before

595
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:31.719
we move on? I mean,
yeah, I guess we can talk about

596
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:36.519
the clip that you're showing now the
Rourke thing again for a bit. It

597
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.920
was a really cool kind of segment
because at halftime that you know, they

598
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:43.400
had Wally Bono going into the Wall
of Fame and you know, everyone was

599
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.679
really excited about that, and then
we kind of thought that from the sort

600
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.159
of entertainment in person perspective, it
was over, I mean, besides the

601
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.800
rest of the game obviously, but
then they had that and it was kind

602
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.519
of a nice, you know,
little I was I don't want to say

603
00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.519
I was surprised at how many people
there knew who Nathan Work was, and

604
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.880
they weren't just a casual fan who
was visiting Vancouver for the weekend and went

605
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.880
to the game and were confused as
to why they were showing NFL highlights.

606
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.880
I mean, it made me happy
knowing that other people around me were aware

607
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.639
of Nathan Work's accomplishments last season.
And of course, I mean I'm not

608
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.760
saying that you know, BC fans
or casuals or anything. That's not the

609
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.760
point. I'm just saying, you
know, in the CFL nowadays, like

610
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.320
I mean, there were people around
me who didn't really understand, you know

611
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:29.800
who, like Vernon Adams was,
what his career you know, meant,

612
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.000
and things like that, and you
know, I mean, yeah, I

613
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.679
get it, like we're not all, you know, CFL analysts like you

614
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.840
shouldn't be. I mean obviously,
you know, especially in the Vancouver market,

615
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.079
like it's not even I mean,
yeah, it's it's an important sport,

616
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.119
but it doesn't really compete with the
Canucks or anything like that. So

617
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.119
yeah, I mean, you know, it just made me happy to see,

618
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:51.840
you know, people knew who he
was. And I can't remember if

619
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.920
they like you know, tried to
give a bit of introduction like former BC

620
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.599
Lin's quarterback Nathan Work or they just
showed the clip and expected people to know.

621
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.559
But either way, it was a
really cool moment nonetheless, and I'm

622
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.000
glad, I mean even from the
promotional side, like you had the Jaguars,

623
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.440
you know, sort of like taking
the clip from the game, you

624
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:14.360
know, and it's very rare that
you'd see an NFL team, you know,

625
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.760
showing a clip from the CFL like
that. I don't really even remember,

626
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.559
you know, the last time that's
happened. So it was just kind

627
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:22.159
of a good moment all around.
And you know, the players obviously,

628
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.519
you know, cared about it too, as you can see there. And

629
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.800
I saw it, you know,
given how close I was there to the

630
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.960
home bench, and yeah, I
mean overall, you know, it was

631
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:35.599
it was just a ya. I'm
glad that I was there for that specifically

632
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.840
because I saw it last year and
I just know the importance of you know,

633
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.679
him as a quarterback, and really, I mean again, Rourke,

634
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.719
you have to remember, he's a
he's a Canadian national. He's from Victoria

635
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.199
on the other side in Vancouver Island. I think it would be a lot

636
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.559
different if he was just some American
import. And I'm not saying that changes

637
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.880
the dynamic of things, but like
Work's a local guy, you know,

638
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.719
so that adds to the whole sort
of story and the eating of it as

639
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.480
well. Yeah, I wouldn't.
I think Don Kind posted his article about

640
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.159
it, and I sent it to
the group. But I just said,

641
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.599
we matter, we still matter where
the CFL, We're still important, Jason,

642
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:12.920
anything else on this, anything else
on BC. We'll get to this

643
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.880
Montreal game. Yeah, No,
I think it was just really cool to

644
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.320
see that, and yeah, let's
move on to the next game. So

645
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.639
this I was at Barbie Friday night
with with the wife, caught up on

646
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.760
this a little bit. A Mariners
had a good nine to win over the

647
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.760
Orioles as well. Is this accurate
stat line that Caleb Evans of eight of

648
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:36.000
thirteen? Yeah, that's crazy,
man. Yeah, they didn't throw many

649
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:40.840
passes. This is uh blowout here
Ballsy, I was following him on Twitter.

650
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:46.079
Michael ball was in in MONTREALI said
I have it this sketch one by

651
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:49.719
four I think, and then I
tweeted up to the game, I said

652
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.360
I have Montreal by twenty five.
Plus here, and this is quite the

653
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.440
blowout. Jason, what did you
make of this twelve to forty one?

654
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.719
Well, the first thing I have
to say is that I is wrong about

655
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.199
the Alouettes this season, and I
think a lot of people had them finishing

656
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.320
fourth in the East coming into the
air. I had them finishing with five

657
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.719
and thirteen record, and they've already
hit that five win total already this season.

658
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.920
So I just have to say right
off the bat that I was wrong

659
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.000
about them, and I will be
making a video this week about the Alouette

660
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:21.480
season so far. But I thought
that in this game, Caleb Evans did

661
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.599
a fine job billing in for Cody
Fajardo. I mean, he is what

662
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.880
he is not a great passer of
the football. I think we saw that

663
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.159
from his time in Ottawa, but
I think they did a good job using

664
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:35.239
his legs in this one. Walter
Fletcher and Jeshuin Antweet with a really good

665
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.440
job billing in for William Standback in
this one. So I thought that was

666
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.280
really good to see for Montreal,
and their defense just continues to be a

667
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.199
force so far this season. I
mean, this is just a crazy game,

668
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:51.119
and I had I had my stats
here, I have these tweets like

669
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.239
tired of hearing short week long travel
excuses. Saskatchewan needs to be professional travel

670
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.639
It's by charts now they have long
hours, lack of to blaming the coaches'

671
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.960
lack of preparation. Evan, do
you feel like this scatchem Wark Friers embarrassed

672
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:09.119
themselves here Friday night? Well,
I mean I certainly think that they you

673
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.039
know, they could have put up
more of a fight. I mean,

674
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.960
that's that goes without saying. I
had picked Montreal last week to win this

675
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:21.360
game. I favored them slightly in
this matchup, but I don't think,

676
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.239
you know, again, given just
where Calgary is, like, they can

677
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:27.559
afford a loss like that, as
crazy as it sounds, and even though

678
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.760
they have a losing record now,
I don't see I didn't see this hurting

679
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.679
them as much just for the one
game specifically. I worry more about Saskatchewan

680
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.719
moving forward over the next couple of
weeks, especially with their quarterback situation.

681
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.119
You know, I think Mason Fine
got hurt, so then you fell back

682
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.800
on Jake Dela Galla, who didn't
exactly have the best performance. Now you've

683
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.119
traded fr Antonio Pipkin and it looks
like it's going to be a tandem between

684
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.239
Dola Galla and Pipkin for the starting
job, or you know, maybe they'll

685
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.280
play both of them kind of figured
out. There's a lot of questions there,

686
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:58.960
so they can I think they can
move on from this game, you

687
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.000
know, don't worry about it right
on in the next one, as all

688
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.280
the coaches say. But but there's
a lot of questions there that I think,

689
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.360
you know, we'll need to be
answered very soon. Gayson, what

690
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.760
did you make of this? Because
people have been they've been calling for Della

691
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.199
gal the whole time. Here Mason
goes down and, like Evan said,

692
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.119
didn't do particularly well. What did
you make of the rough risers? Well,

693
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:22.199
I think it just adds to that
whole narrative that tall quarterbacks can't succeed

694
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.480
in the CFL. I mean,
it's a limited sample size. We'll have

695
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.039
to see him start a game.
I think there would be a second queer

696
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.320
start, because I think he started
one last year when a bunch of players

697
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:34.920
were out with COVID. So I'm
very interested to see how he plays in

698
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.480
the next game, but I'm not
too optimistic about it. Obviously, they

699
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:43.599
trade for Pipkins, so maybe he
gets into the lineup of Dolla Gallis struggles.

700
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.559
But the quarterback situation is not pretty
right now with Saskatchewan, and I

701
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:52.840
think it's the main source of the
troubles. What's the long term play here,

702
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:53.960
because I mean they're not I got
this. I mean, I know

703
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:57.480
it's the West. I mean they're
not dead here. I mean they're third

704
00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:59.920
in the West four and five.
You know, obviously they have a losing

705
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.880
record. Now, I don't know
what's what's your game plan here if you're

706
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:09.800
Saskatchewan Jason Well, I mean I
think I think I would probably go with

707
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.559
Pipkin if if, if in a
couple of weeks, dollar Galla is not

708
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.760
showing anything, like Evans said,
they could afford to draw up a couple

709
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:22.079
more games because of the sad state
of that third place race in the West

710
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:23.880
Division. And I mean, like
I said earlier, I think there's just

711
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.079
a lot of bad teams in the
CFL right now, and I think it's

712
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:32.199
not looking good for the potential divisional
or the first weekend of the playoffs because

713
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:37.360
I think that there seems to be
such a gap between those top four teams

714
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:39.039
and the rest right now, in
the CFL, and I think that,

715
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.960
you know, Saskatch one going forward
has a decent chance of making the playoffs

716
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:45.519
still, but I don't even think
it really matters. I think they're gonna

717
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:51.280
get clawbered by BC or Calgoy's gonna
get clawber bytes BC, no matter who

718
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.400
makes it. In there was Pipkin, wasn't he? Was he NBC last

719
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:59.480
year? Right? Wasn't he?
Yes? Or of the year before one

720
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:01.920
of the Yeah, because we had
Right, we had Nathan and then we

721
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:07.360
had the other Canadian guy. My
too many rosters, Key jack up.

722
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:13.280
We had the backup quarter in the
Canadian quarterback? Was it Michael Michael Connor?

723
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.000
And I think Pipken was in there
when Burke went down and that was

724
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.480
when I called put him. But
yeah, Michael Connor got injured and then

725
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:21.880
they put in Pipkin and he wasn't
doing I think was it like he was

726
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.800
our short yerage guy. It my
knowledge of that, too many rosters,

727
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.480
Key track up. Evan thoughts on
this Montrell looking good? I mean,

728
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:34.760
I don't think Montreal scored forty points
in all this season to this point,

729
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.159
especially without CODI figarda, what do
you make him? Montreal Yeah, it

730
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.360
was really interesting. So you know, on paper, this was gonna be

731
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:45.639
the Cody Fajardo revenge game, but
that didn't happen and you had Caleb Evans

732
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.239
in the lineup. Now, Caleb
Evans has been in the CFL for a

733
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.039
bit. I believe he was with
Ottawa at some point, so he has

734
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.199
a bit of experience there at quarterback
in this league. And he didn't have

735
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.400
to do a lot in this game
really from the passing perspective. I mean,

736
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.840
he completed eight passes and next hell
scored forty one points, So that's

737
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.559
how you know you've had a pretty
good day. But he was effective as

738
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.440
a runner. I think the biggest
story in this game, though, outside

739
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.159
of Caleb Evans, for me,
at least on the Montreal side I'll get

740
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:14.480
back in the Saskatchewan in a minute, would be Walter Fletcher. You know,

741
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.320
there was a lot. I mean, it's taken a long time for

742
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.880
you know, Montreal's run game to
kind of get going, and you know,

743
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.119
William standback finally over the past couple
of weeks is showing, you know,

744
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.880
his potential that he had before the
injury last year or I mean,

745
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.519
well he came back, but Yeah, it wasn't very effective anyway. You

746
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:35.639
know, Walter Fletcher kind of I
think stepped up and really, you know,

747
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.519
again, Montreal, I was more
impressed with their run game this time

748
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.079
around than their passing game. And
you know, I've talked so much this

749
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.239
season about their receivers, especially Austin
Mack, who still had a big play

750
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:50.119
in this game. But but really
I have to give credit to the run

751
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.840
game here between Walter Fletcher, you
know, Caleb Evans the quarterback, and

752
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.519
then jesshren Antwee, who I think
is I mean, I don't I don't

753
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.920
know a ton about Jesshrehn Antwee,
but I'll tell you I was impressed with

754
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:05.559
him in this game, even on
limited touches. I think all around,

755
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.079
that's a good sign moving forward because
you know, I think a lot of

756
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:12.719
people look at that roster and they
go, well, if there's no standback,

757
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.000
then what do we do. Well, honestly, you know, it

758
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.800
kind of benefited them not having stand
back in the lineup this time because it

759
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.800
got it. It gave these other
guys Fletcher and Antwee, the opportunity to

760
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.239
run the ball, combined with Caleb
Evans, who's a more mobile quarterback than

761
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.400
Caleb Cody Fajardo. Excuse me.
It worked out pretty well, I'd say,

762
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.840
so that they at least have that
to fall back on, you know,

763
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:37.519
because to be honest, look,
Montreal's winning, but their offense has

764
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:39.039
been very up and down over the
course of the season. So I'm interested

765
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:43.280
to see if they kind of stick
with this run first philosophy, which is

766
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.719
kind of almost untraditional, i'd say
at this point in the CFL and the

767
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.960
really any football league in general.
But I don't know. I really liked

768
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.480
what I saw on the ground from
them. So moving on to Saskatchewan here

769
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.760
for a brief minute, not a
ton to talk about here, right,

770
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:59.760
I mean, this was a pretty
lopsided game. I will say it's It's

771
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:06.519
kind kind of funny how I've complimented
the rough Riders passing game for a majority

772
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:08.320
of the season, regardless of who
the quarterback is. I thought, you

773
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.559
know, Mason Fine did a decent
job getting it out to receivers, a

774
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.800
lot of the receivers that I like
on that team. And then I had

775
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.119
also said, you know for weeks
that Jamal Morrow really wasn't the guy,

776
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.719
and then I needed to see more
from him, you know, because they

777
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.039
had a very lackluster run game and
in this one it was the complete opposite.

778
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.760
You had the passing game, you
know, kind of completely fall apart

779
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.039
because Mason Fine gets hurt, Dolla
Galla comes in and you know, just

780
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.719
isn't ready that day, you know. So yeah, and then you have

781
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.440
Jamal Morrow, you know, rushing
for eighty one yards on eighteen carries kind

782
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:43.920
of be in the you know,
big ball carrier bell cow woever you want

783
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.599
to call him, And you know, it was just kind of it was

784
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:52.480
just kind of funny how that panned
out. Although I will say Jared Stearns,

785
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:53.960
you know who I said I really
liked on the broadcast last week,

786
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:59.199
was the leading receiver again for Saskatchewans. So definitely, I think for them

787
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.920
an underrated West up and moving forward, regardless of who the quarterback is.

788
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:06.519
And again I've I've said it nauseam. They have a lot of receivers.

789
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.360
I like a lot of receivers in
general. I like in the in the

790
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:15.039
CFL this year. But yeah,
I mean overall, Saskatchewan a tough loss

791
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.639
for them, But even though you
lost by nearly thirty points, if I'm

792
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.159
you know, if I'm Saskatchewan,
I'm not really panicking too much because it's

793
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:27.639
gonna take a lot of losses for
your spot to really be in jeopardy.

794
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.360
And even if Calgary jumps over them
at some point here in the next couple

795
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:35.000
of weeks, I think, you
know, they still they still, in

796
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.519
my opinion, have an advantage.
We can't burn the tape every week.

797
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:45.480
Every I just burn it doesn't matter, doesn't do I'm hankering to talk some

798
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:47.239
Edmonton so anything else on this When
Jay said, I want to make sure

799
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:50.960
you get out your points out,
yeah, I just wanted to talk a

800
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.280
little bit more about Walter Fletcher.
I think is one of the most underrated

801
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:58.199
players in the entire CFL. It's
unfortunate that he doesn't get as much of

802
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.159
a chance because it's very hard to
dress two American running backs on a CFL

803
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:05.920
game day roster, so when standback's
healthy, he's off in a healthy scratch.

804
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.159
So I think he's really one of
the top six or seven running backs

805
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:13.159
in the league. He just doesn't
get the attention and the opportunity. And

806
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.599
I think if he was on a
different team, it would be if he'd

807
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.679
be a lead guy somewhere. You
saw it. With that one screen pass,

808
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:22.039
he took almost the house sixty eight
yards. So I think he's just

809
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.639
really exposed to player a really well
rounded running back. So it was really

810
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:29.960
good to see him performing this one. All right, So that's good,

811
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.679
good, good, texted Tim Kapper. I said, man, you had

812
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.760
to quite the weekend here with the
blowout of Saskatchewan, but now I want

813
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.400
to get to this. This was
the greatest to me, one of the

814
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:46.000
greatest nights for better or worse as
CFL this season. We I had worked

815
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.280
all day. I was just getting
in the shower and I was listening to

816
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.199
the game, and you know,
trade forward comes in and everyone we're okay.

817
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:57.920
You know, justin Don apparently started
the free trade forward. Even though

818
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.960
I think Evan and I take credit
for that, we just didn't say that.

819
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.920
I'm local, provincial, you know
sports TV. But you know,

820
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.599
Trey four comes in, handoff,
they score everything, you know. So

821
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:12.360
I run up Sarahs and Dorothy because
we were gonna go out to theater.

822
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.199
We're said, we're not going out. I said, we're watching this game.

823
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.039
I said, We're sitting at home, had the game on watch every

824
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.599
snap of this this was the most
exciting night of my life. Texta Dave

825
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:24.400
Campbell after the game, I said, I'm so sorry. He said,

826
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.920
that was really rough. Initial thoughts
on this one. We'll go to Evan

827
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.719
first, that initial thoughts of the
what could have been that they'd free trade

828
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.960
four and then the epic collapse here
of proportions. Yeah, so it was.

829
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.360
It was really funny because when this
game was going on, I was

830
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.639
on a flight up here to Vancouver, right, and when I left,

831
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:46.400
like we were on the runway and
I looked at the score and it was

832
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.000
like twenty two to nothing. It
was one of Edmonton kind of peaked right,

833
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.719
and then I was like, oh
great, like we're gonna land and

834
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:53.960
there's gonna be this big buzz,
like my phone will be, you know,

835
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:58.840
blowing up how Edmonton won like a
bunch of notifications finally break the streak.

836
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.159
And then I so then we land
plane lands of Vancouver. It's like

837
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.199
a two and a half hour flight, so the game has been over by

838
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:08.639
then for probably a good half hour. And I checked my phone. I'm

839
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.400
like, let's look at the score, like how much did I meant to

840
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.159
win by? Did they get the
forty points? Or whatever, and then

841
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:15.559
I looked and I was like,
hold on a minute, like that that

842
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.639
can't be right. At first,
I thought it was Edmonton thirty eight Winnipeg

843
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.039
twenty nine, and I was like, okay, so Winnipeg made a formidable

844
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.159
effort. And then I was I
looked again and I'm like oh. I

845
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:29.039
was like what, no, that
that can't And then I looked and I

846
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.800
looked around, and then I got
on Twitter and and I was like,

847
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:37.119
oh no, oh, the worst
of course it happened Edmonton where they went

848
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.760
up twenty two nothing and still couldn't
get the job done. So I don't

849
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.639
know, my excitement immediately went away. And then I just I was really

850
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:46.639
sad, you know. I was
just I was sitting there. I was

851
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:50.239
like, I, you know,
I have really no connection to this team,

852
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.039
but I still feel for Chris Jones
and all those guys. I mean,

853
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.719
they were like what. I was
watching that game, like, you

854
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.440
know, as to play, and
you know, I was about to take

855
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.679
off or at least following along with
it, and everyone was just so happy,

856
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.239
Like there was this atmosphere like we're
finally gonna do it, We're finally

857
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:06.719
gonna win, and we're gonna do
it at home against a team that's competing

858
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.000
for a Gray Cup. I mean, finally, after you know, literally

859
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.639
months of suffering, you're you're in
a position where you can do that,

860
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.400
and then it all just fell apart, and you know, they got too

861
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.079
excited, I think, too fast, and you know, I didn't really

862
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.920
get an opportunity to look at the
later highlights from this game. I know

863
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:24.800
Drew Brown came in and did some
nice things. We'll get into that,

864
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:30.800
but it's just it's, you know, Hamilton, not Hamilton, excuse me,

865
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:35.440
Edmonton. It just there's an we're
in week what is this week ten?

866
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.800
Now there's still a new way to
lose every week. It's it's like

867
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:45.440
I feel, I really thought we
had hit the point of the season where

868
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:50.360
like there was a low, and
it just it somehow keeps getting lower.

869
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.119
At least at least there was a
high point, like at least they had

870
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.360
a lead, but like, can
you even celebrate that when you lose another

871
00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:00.119
game and just the opportunity, like
it just it all goes to waste so

872
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.320
quickly. And it's not the first
time that this type of thing has happened,

873
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:07.880
So I don't know, man,
I I there's just it's one thing

874
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.480
to lose a game and get blown
out. It's another thing to you know,

875
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.760
be up in a game, have
a ton of confidence, think you're

876
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.000
going to do something, and have
that all go away in the blink of

877
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:20.400
an eye. That's my ultimate takeaway
from this one. Yeah, Jason,

878
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.199
you you've said on here that you
don't believe in Churson's but you think that

879
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:27.119
Edmonton's curse it does. It does
feel that way here. I did have

880
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.800
my tweet and then we'll get Jason's
thoughts. I said, if even like

881
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:36.199
so, even if they ax louse, imagine if tray Forward had played weeks

882
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:37.400
ago. That was my takeaway at
the end of this was, Yeah,

883
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:42.519
Edmonton lost and there was this epic
class but uh, there's no excuse now,

884
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.360
why why trade Forward hadn't played,
you know, start of the season.

885
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.840
Halfway through? I mean, I
think Chris Jones I had here,

886
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.679
and maybe Chris Jones should be fired
on principle. What did you make of

887
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:57.760
this? This was truly a remarkable
night. Yeah, what do you even

888
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.199
say at this point about the Elks? I mean, you know, we

889
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:05.199
were sitting talking weeks ago about has
this team hit rock bottom. I mean,

890
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.280
is this rock bottom or did they
after lose a thirty point lead.

891
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.159
I mean, I just, you
know, my heart hurts for that team

892
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.239
right now. That whole fan base
is just like I was going to be

893
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.280
so happy for them. If this
was the game that they finally broke the

894
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:22.239
streak, would have been the perfect
scenario to win against the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

895
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.159
Kind of shut up those Winnipeg Blue
Bombers fans that have kind of been,

896
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:28.159
you know, gloating over the last
couple of years, getting a little

897
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.440
bit big, big ego. I
think, you know, at the end

898
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.039
of the day, it was just
a very disappointing, you know, effort

899
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.199
in the second half. It just
seemed like they had lost the game already,

900
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:40.880
even though it was still within reach. And I think that it was

901
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.760
just drive after drive after drive.
And the most disappointing thing was the fact

902
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:47.920
that Winnipeg had a backup quarterback in
there. I mean, no disrespect to

903
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.840
Drew Brown, but he was going
up and down the field, came off

904
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.239
in off the bench cold, and
he just found a way to just put

905
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:00.360
drives together and it was really really
impressive from that perspective. But Melton.

906
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:02.920
I mean, I just have no
words for them right now. Yeah,

907
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:07.639
there was I saw the tweet coming
out where Chris Jones had said that tray

908
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.119
Forward played, you know, well
enough to earn a second second start next

909
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.239
week. I said, I hope
so, I hope so. But but

910
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.800
that was the thing, and they
also had the comments out that tray Forward

911
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.639
said, yeah, I felt like
we played too conservative the second half and

912
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.400
we gave the game away. As
said, I wonder why Chris Jones doesn't

913
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:30.119
like Trey Forward here. It's probably
because of things like that. But it

914
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.679
was just crazy. We had.
This is what I don't get, Like

915
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:37.960
we've we've talked at nausea oh Cornelius
and like he's so athletic and he can

916
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:42.199
run. Tray Forward had a rushing
touchdown the first first quarter of the game.

917
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.760
He had as mini rushing touchdowns as
Taro Cornelius has had the entire season.

918
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.119
Like I'm tired of hearing this elite, elite, you know, athletic

919
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:54.840
rushing ability of Cornelius. We did
see Zach Claros get injured, he had

920
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:59.400
to pick six. Looked very reminiscent
of Taro Cornelius. Here. A couple

921
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.480
of weeks ago, the Dustin Niel
say, yo, why does he are

922
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:06.440
you kenning me? Which I guess
now is like famous. I saw Awful

923
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:09.920
announcing our buddy over there, Andrew
doing the article on that. Jason,

924
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:14.079
how impressed were you? I know
I had your tweet here? How impressed

925
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.480
were you with Drew Brown? Because
I mean you're thinking claris goes down,

926
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.119
like this game's down. I mean
there are already a Claris is down.

927
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.960
And then Drew Brown played I think
better than I can't if you were a

928
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:27.360
Winnipeg fan, I don't think you
thought that Drew Brown was going to play

929
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.679
as good as he did. Yeah, it was almost unbelievable. What was

930
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:34.159
the stat line? Over three hundred
yards and four touchdown passes. I mean

931
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.280
it was dearly flawless. Like what
really impressed me was just how many deep

932
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:42.599
shots this guy was taking. And
Winnipeg's playmakers just really took over in the

933
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.719
second half, just said we are
not going to lose this game. Kenny

934
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:50.360
Lawler had the most ridiculously easy looking
one hand catch in the end zone I've

935
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.400
ever seen. Dalton Shane had a
couple of big plays in the second half.

936
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.920
Brady Oliver I really took over.
Edmonton just could not stop the run

937
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.480
in the second half once again,
and I think obviously that's been a big

938
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:04.360
issue for them this year. So, I mean, Drew Brown was very

939
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.199
impressive in my opinion, in this
game. And yeah, I think it's

940
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:12.159
all the rose to it. I
laugh here sometimes they just make notes on

941
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.559
my apple on my eye. Sister
Olivery just struck the ass out of that.

942
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:21.519
Dude. I just trying to just
go back. So I remember said

943
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:24.440
this, Yeah, this was the
thing like Winnipeg, not not every team

944
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:28.440
can do this and go down and
come back and be down, you know,

945
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.159
twenty two zero, but really crazy
impressive on that. My I got

946
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:35.280
ten percent left on my headphones here, Okay, hopefully it just beeped at

947
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:38.400
me. Hopefully it'll make it through
the podcast. Evan, any other thoughts

948
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:42.239
Drew Brown. I don't know what
what's have you heard? What's the update

949
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.000
on Claro's Like, is he is
he day to day right now? Yeah?

950
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:49.559
I don't know. I mean,
I'll talk about Drew Brown for a

951
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.360
minute because until I get an update
on on claro side, I can't.

952
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:55.199
I don't know what's going on there. Again, I didn't watch wall of

953
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:59.760
this game. But I will say
Drew Brown, you know I was.

954
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.760
I mean, once I saw the
stat line again, once I figured out

955
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:06.639
that Winnipeg actually had won the game, I looked at Drew brown stat line

956
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:08.519
and I mean that was amazing.
But you know, Drew Brown, the

957
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:12.559
reality is, I mean, I
don't want to say this should be expected,

958
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.480
but you know, Drew Brown is
one of these guys we always talk

959
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:17.000
about, you know, year three
in the CFL, and I don't think

960
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:21.480
a lot of people understand that Drew
Brown has been with the Blue Bombers since

961
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:24.920
twenty twenty one. He was undrafted
in twenty twenty out of Oklahoma State and

962
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.320
then you know, signed with the
Blue Bombers later on, like he's been

963
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.679
there since. You know, he's
got a great cup under his belt already.

964
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:36.000
He has a lot of things.
He's had a lot of chances to

965
00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.079
learn. So Drew Brown isn't necessarily
some stranger, you know, some unfamiliar

966
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:44.159
face. You know. Yeah,
he's unproven, well at least unproven until

967
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:47.360
now. But you know this,
like, Drew Brown, in my opinion,

968
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:52.920
was one of the more I think
higher backside or higher one. Am

969
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:59.519
I trying to say higher upside backup
quarterbacks in the CFL that I could think

970
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:00.880
of, and I'm we just haven't
had a chance to talk about him this

971
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.880
season because you know, all the
you know sort of light gets you know,

972
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:10.280
shined on Zach Claros and rightfully so
it was the same thing in Toronto

973
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.920
where there's so much effort put on
too, you know, the shoulders of

974
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.079
Chad Kelly that I think Brian Scott
and Cameron Dukes, I don't want to

975
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:21.280
say they become afterthoughts, but they
come into the game, Like Cam Dukes

976
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:22.440
came into the game last week and
everyone's like, Oh, who's this?

977
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:27.480
Who's this? Cam Duke's fella?
In BC, I think it's a bit

978
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.039
different because Dan Evans was a starter. Now he's a backup, so people

979
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:34.239
already familiar with that, whereas Drew
Brown kind of came into the league and

980
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:37.000
really had the work you know,
his way up, and I mean everyone

981
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:37.760
has to work their way up,
but but you know what I mean,

982
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:42.960
Drew Brown, you know, he
wasn't like this was He's always going to

983
00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:45.079
be in a reserve role. I
think as long as he's in Winnipeg again.

984
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:50.480
Besides unless an injury happens in this
case, but clearly he's up to

985
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:54.039
the task and I wouldn't hesitate,
you know, starting Drew Brown in another

986
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:57.639
game. Now, keep in mind, I understand, like you know,

987
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.920
dust and Crum, it was a
similar thing where Jeremiah was solely got injured.

988
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.880
Dustin Crumb came into the game,
performed really well. Then he had

989
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:07.280
the start and took a step back. So maybe we see that with Drew

990
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.159
Brown if that becomes a possibility.
Again, I don't know that the situation

991
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:15.159
on Claros or what's going to happen
there, But ultimately, yeah, Drew

992
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.280
Brown extremely impressive. And then Trey
Ford if if you want to talk about

993
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.840
the other quarterback in Edmonton, Yeah, my takeaway was the same. I

994
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:25.320
think is everything that we'd already discussed. You know, why why didn't he

995
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:30.360
play earlier? Like again, this
I wouldn't say this was an elite performance

996
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.480
from him, but yeah, like
for Edmonton standards, this was this was

997
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.639
pretty damn good. You know,
this was a great considering this was his

998
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.639
first game and the first action that
he's seen. Like, I mean,

999
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:42.639
yeah, that that was about one
of the better debuts you could ask for.

1000
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:45.800
And I mean I I think ultimately, yeah, he still has what

1001
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:50.719
it takes to be a starting quarterback, and I want him to continuously start

1002
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.159
again. I mean, he got
that team off to their best start of

1003
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.800
the season. Yeah, they couldn't
finish the job, but I'm sure,

1004
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:59.159
like if we want to look at
the strictly positive takeaways from the out side,

1005
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:00.599
you know, I think with out
Trey forward in that position, like

1006
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.679
just Taylor Cornelius do the same thing, because I don't think so. I

1007
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:07.920
really don't think so. And it
just kind of seemed like even if trey

1008
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:15.199
Ford wasn't like a complete one eighty
from Taylor Cornelius, he just gave a

1009
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:20.639
sort of refreshed feeling to that offense
that they really needed after whatever it was,

1010
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.119
eight games, you know, two
months. So so overall, I

1011
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.519
think the trey Ford decision was the
right call, and I really hope,

1012
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:32.039
I really really hope he can be
the one that wins them a game.

1013
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:37.639
Please please, I really need to
see that. Yeah. That So,

1014
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.400
here's my question for Jason, and
we'll get put the plane down here pretty

1015
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:47.639
soon, is this is this sustainable
with trey Ford? Because you know,

1016
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:51.480
we see this and you know,
people come in and Okay, we weren't

1017
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:53.199
able to game plan. I mean, obviously Trey was announced as a starter,

1018
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:58.119
but Winnipeg trying to figure all that
out, like is this or can

1019
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:01.320
you replicate this week after week?
I think so because tray Ford, one

1020
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:05.920
thing about him is just he's a
different kind of athlete than what we usually

1021
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:08.960
see from a CFL quarterback. He
is easily the most athletic quarterback I think

1022
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:13.639
in the CFL, even just day
one starting last week, right, So

1023
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.039
I think that's going to give him
an opportunity alone, gives them a different

1024
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:21.320
element to that offense, and it
really did open up the playbook for them.

1025
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.199
But I think maybe they're limited in
some aspects in terms of the passing

1026
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:29.320
ability, but they weren't getting anything
done in the passing game with Tara Cornelius.

1027
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.920
There was one play in this game
where Ford hit a beautiful deep ball

1028
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.119
to Dylan Mitchell and it was like, all right, let's go. And

1029
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.760
I think that was when they had
they were up like twenty two to something

1030
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:42.440
in the game, and the very
next play, Kevin Brown coughs up a

1031
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.400
fumble and that was just kind of, you know, epitomizes the Edmonton elk

1032
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:49.719
season so far. Yeah, and
they had that drive where they was like

1033
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.079
penalty penalty, penalty just gave Winnipeg. I think it was like late and

1034
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.239
the third just gave him the whole
way back. And yeah, I mean

1035
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:59.159
you still see, I mean,
Elk's gonna Elk like it's still it's still

1036
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:04.000
the same, still the same fundamentals
there. Like I said, I think

1037
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.119
we were talking before on here,
because of course we were laughing like there's

1038
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.039
no way that Edmonton beats with a
pig. But circle this here, crumb

1039
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:14.800
sanity comes to Edmonton here, we're
gonna have that. I think that is

1040
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.960
your week twelve. I think Edmonton
breaks are great because they were at twenty

1041
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.400
two games right now, right,
I think that is the day here on

1042
01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:24.480
that Sunday, August twenty seven.
I say, circle your calendar. That

1043
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:28.559
is what happens there. We'll get
out of here, seeing Evan. Any

1044
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:31.159
other thoughts on this one from you, No, I don't think so,

1045
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:34.360
although if you want to, if
we want to get in here to the

1046
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.159
games for next week, briefly,
I mean, yeah, I would have

1047
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:40.880
to agree that Ottawa Edmonton game,
I want to say Edmonton's gonna win street.

1048
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:44.559
Yeah. Week eleven. That would
be the week after next, all

1049
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:46.079
right, well, hey still,
I mean I think that might be.

1050
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:50.079
I think you might be right.
I would love to say they would win

1051
01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:52.000
that game. I mean they might. They might win at Hamilton too,

1052
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.400
honestly here in week eleven, but
I don't know, Like I think that

1053
01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.119
home win matters a lot more for
them, Jay saying anything else that,

1054
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:04.960
Yeah, Edmionton here coming to any
feel your tech guts. Well, it's

1055
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:07.920
worth noting that they won in Hamilton
last year and trey Ford's first ever start,

1056
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:13.119
so I think it's definitely possible that
they win. But I think Hamilton

1057
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:15.400
coming off a bye week, should
be better prepared for them this year.

1058
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:20.679
But you know what could happen?
Yeah, Evan's got to hop off.

1059
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:22.599
Get this plan. Yeah, Winnipeg
at Calgary here, I think that's kind

1060
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:28.119
of a cake walk. Montreal at
Ottaway that's probably the exciting one on Saturday,

1061
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.599
and then I don't think I would
put any money in the world on

1062
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.960
BC going then and it's absolutely trucking
the ass outs Gotchawan here. I think

1063
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:38.960
that that's going to be good.
Evan will hop off anything else from you

1064
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.440
now, I think that's it.
For me, But I'm looking forward to

1065
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.639
next week's slate of games. I'm
sure, I mean, if if Edmonton

1066
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:47.440
wins and Hamilton, I'm sure we'll
have plenty to talk about. And I

1067
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:52.079
mean that to me that that one
really stands out now, just given what

1068
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.880
Trey Ford's done and you know the
kind of state of the Hamilton franchise.

1069
01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.199
I think, yeah, make sure
if you're watching the video game, the

1070
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:01.679
thumbs up. I want to make
sure we have as many thumbs up on

1071
01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:06.039
this video as people watching the stream
right now. That would be good check

1072
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.360
out as well. Jason's going to
be doing his stuff coming up this week,

1073
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:12.119
Jason, anything else from you,
Nope, I think we'll put this

1074
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.320
one to ben get Onto next week. Awesome. Yeah, I just that

1075
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:19.239
was thrilling Thursday night, even with
the loss. Thrilling and thrilling. Really

1076
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:22.559
appreciate that. Thanks everyone figuring out
this week what we're gonna do, and

1077
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:25.840
we'll see you guys out watch out
online. I'll be posting stuff. We'll

1078
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:27.920
see you guys next time. Thanks,