1 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,199 All right, hey, everybody, how are you. I have a friend 2 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:21,399 of mine on with me. We're not going to spend two hours on here 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,600 or anything, but I want to introduce her to you now, Ginger, 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,960 if you just hold on, let me set this up. This is Ginger 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Winners. She's a friend of mine. I met her probably six or eight 6 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:41,359 months ago, and we were talking. She was working for a publisher and 7 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:47,880 I had, through another author that I knew, had told him about us 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,920 uploading audio books and it was really working out great, and he took that 9 00:00:53,039 --> 00:01:00,000 to this publisher. They brought Ginger in as kind of start this thing up 10 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:04,120 for them, just to get it started, and she was in the meeting 11 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:10,920 and I was so taken by her interest and enthusiasm about it. That's what 12 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,159 I love about this, and so immediately connected with her. I could tell 13 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,840 just by the look on her face that she was interested in it. And 14 00:01:18,879 --> 00:01:26,400 then her and I worked together on their podcast. I actually recorded a book 15 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:34,840 and it's on the it's on the podcast, and she got really interested in 16 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:41,400 this stuff. And so she's not with the publisher anymore. She's got her 17 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:47,719 own podcast and it's called The Hidden Corners, right right, And I actually 18 00:01:47,799 --> 00:01:53,879 got to collaborate with her on her six or seventh podcast that she's put up. 19 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:57,400 It's on YouTube and it's going to be on all the podcast apps soon, 20 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:01,000 and so I want you all to know her. I want you to 21 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,799 know about her channel. I want you to go listen to it. I 22 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,479 did a different thing for her than I normally do with my channel, and 23 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:14,319 I felt like I could do that kind of use her as a guinea pig. 24 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,919 If it was horrible, then she could just she could take the hit 25 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:20,719 on it. But Ginger, I'm sorry to be so long, Wendy, 26 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:24,240 but thanks and welcome. And I know every we have the nicest audience on 27 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,000 the whole internet, and I know they're gonna be happy to meet you. 28 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,240 So how are you well, Gosh, thank you, thank you for first 29 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,080 of all for having me on the podcast, but thank you so much for 30 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:43,159 all your health and assistance over the last several months. I feel like, 31 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:50,879 you know, meeting you was just a godsend for sure, and so starting 32 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:57,840 this podcast was a big adventure and you were there right along with me, 33 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:01,039 So thank you for that. So yeah, the new podcast is called The 34 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:08,520 Hidden Corners, and the idea I had for it is that I was always 35 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:15,120 a Twilight Zone junkie, so Twilight Zone and Outer Limits and all of those 36 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:19,840 shows, so I wanted to come up with something that was similar to that. 37 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,800 So the idea with the Hidden Corners is it's a mix of a bunch 38 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:30,759 of different stories. There might be everything from a rewrite of a fairy tale 39 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:38,719 to classics like ed garllan Poe, to fun stories like Bigfoot, like the 40 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:46,039 one that you collaborated with me on, and scary stories ghost stories. We 41 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:53,080 have a feature called Around the camp Fire where Clay talks about campfire stories and 42 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,599 things that have happened out in the wild. So a mix of everything. 43 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,439 Yeah, he does a really good job. Matter of fact, he told 44 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:09,439 the story in your very first video that you put up last week and April 45 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:15,159 and I were driving actually I had listened to it, and then April and 46 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:18,199 I were driving to another town to go eat lunch and she wanted to go 47 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,879 shopping, so we listened to all your podcast you had about six maybe four, 48 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,199 I think you had four up at that time. We listened to all 49 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:30,519 four of him on the way and she's like, I love this podcast because 50 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,560 it's there's a lot of variety and there is you hear a lot of voices 51 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:39,360 like I got to do one. I'm going to do more if you'll let 52 00:04:39,399 --> 00:04:45,120 me. And who is what is the man's name that did the first one 53 00:04:45,399 --> 00:04:49,439 that does the campfire? Okay, remind me of his name. His name 54 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:57,120 is Clay Stella. Clay's voice, your voice. It's just a great variety, 55 00:04:57,319 --> 00:05:02,040 a great writing, and uh it's the variety is great. So so 56 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:08,720 I did a bigfoot thing and Clay's probably going to do something different. I 57 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:13,319 noticed you've got three or four more podcasts up since we listened. But if 58 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:18,160 you don't mind, I want you to tell the folks how you came up 59 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,639 with these stories. That was interesting to me because didn't you tell me your 60 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,680 brothers and sisters used to pass the time telling just making up these stories and 61 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,480 telling stories. Will you will you share that with us? Yeah? Gosh, 62 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:36,399 so, like I said, we were we were all Twilight Zone junkies 63 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:41,439 when we were young, and and my brother, who was five years older 64 00:05:41,439 --> 00:05:47,319 than me and was my best friend, we would pass the time creating stories 65 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:53,720 for each other and it was just such a it was it was such a 66 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,959 wonderful part of my childhood. We were always coming up with stories. And 67 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,040 the thing is if the more you come up stories, the more you notice 68 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,360 bizarre things going on in the world around you. And so we always had 69 00:06:06,439 --> 00:06:13,199 lots of content to draw from. Um My brother has since passed, unfortunately 70 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,720 I lost him at a early age, but I feel like he is always 71 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:27,279 with me, always telling me stories, and so I know that he's a 72 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,720 big part of this podcast too. So you're drawing from memory and you're writing 73 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,680 some of these stories that you that you two told each other. That's that's 74 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,279 where a lot of this comes from. Ryan, that is where a lot 75 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:45,279 of it originates. And then some of it is Newert. Well, so 76 00:06:45,319 --> 00:06:50,040 I've right now, I've written all of the stories that I've been reading, 77 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:58,879 and that well the ones I've been reading. Anyway, m Clay kind of 78 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:03,040 comes up with his own own idea of campfire stories, but he helps me 79 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:10,839 collaborate also, just like you have and I. What we're asking is that 80 00:07:10,879 --> 00:07:16,319 our listeners also send in their stories. So we have an email address. 81 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:25,360 It is the Hidden Corners dot Story at gmail dot com, and we're hoping 82 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:28,879 that listeners will send their stories into and if it, you know, if 83 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:32,399 it sounds like something that Clay should read around the Campfire. Then we'll have 84 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:35,600 Clay read it and if it's if it sounds like a story that would work 85 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:41,120 really well with the Hidden Corners, then I'll read it. And then we 86 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,839 also have Justin King on board. And Justin is reading a lot of the 87 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,519 classics, so he's doing you know, Edgar Allan Poe and right now he's 88 00:07:51,560 --> 00:08:00,800 actually reading the original story of Frankenstein and I'm going to have to do Dracula 89 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:07,319 as well. But some of those good old classics that people will either remember 90 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,680 remember reading as in their childhood or maybe they've never read it, they've only 91 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:15,680 seen the movie. And we all know that books can be so much better 92 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,600 than movies. So we've got a variety of those things. Yeah, that's 93 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:26,600 a And look that you're talking to an audience who loves to write and send 94 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:31,759 in these stories, and because I've got hundreds of them, So please you 95 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,200 all if you have a story that you have always kind of wanted to send 96 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,919 to me, but she thought, well maybe it won't fit his channel. 97 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:45,919 It will fit Ginger's channel because she likes unusual. It doesn't really matter what 98 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,960 the topic is, because she's really left herself open to do just a variety 99 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,360 of topics, so it could be you know, I did a Bigfoot because 100 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:58,639 that story was in the back of my mind because it happened to a friend. 101 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:01,480 So anyone's who's where, I'm gonna link it in the description. We're 102 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:07,799 gonna put her email address in the description and a link to her channel. 103 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,720 I might even put an icard up here. So if you just want to 104 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:16,919 break away and go listen, Oh, I had something wrong on the tip 105 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,600 of my tongue in my mind. It goes so fast then it leaves, 106 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:26,440 and I can't remember what I was going to say, but just go over 107 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,639 and give it a try. The I was going, Oh, I was 108 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,320 gonna say. The story that really hooked me was your very first podcast, 109 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,360 The Client. He told that story so well, and then you told the 110 00:09:39,399 --> 00:09:45,360 red story. And there's three more up that I haven't even listened to. 111 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,279 I'm about to get back to work when we finished this, and I'm gonna 112 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,960 listen to those this afternoon. So I'm so excited to have a podcast that 113 00:09:54,039 --> 00:10:01,240 I can look forward to. You know, they are very very few that 114 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,840 I get excited when they pop up, and I think I'm kind of hooked 115 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:11,840 on yours. So it's again it's written. Well, um, please guys, 116 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:15,000 if you have a story. Oh, I know what I was going 117 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,919 to say. That was one time where I put out a invitation to young 118 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,240 people who Now I always say you should check with your parents. If you're 119 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,399 underage, check with your parents and make sure it's okay. I don't like 120 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,360 to do anything with kids without parental but check with your parents. And if 121 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,080 you've got a good story, sending it to me or send it to Ginger. 122 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,879 But that was always fun to do. The young people's story teenager stories 123 00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:46,279 is what they were. And so anyway, what else is going on? 124 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,240 This really is basically what you're focusing on now, Well, this is a 125 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,519 huge focus of mine for sure, right now it is. I'm also, 126 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:01,799 as you know, I also paint. I fact, these pictures in the 127 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:07,440 background are some of my paintings, and so I spend a lot of time 128 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:13,480 doing all kinds of creative endeavors and getting ready to move soon. I'm moving 129 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:18,840 out to a ranch, horse ranch outside of town, and so that's that's 130 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,120 going to be exciting too. And once I'm out there, I'm sure there's 131 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:28,960 going to be a whole lot of oh gosh, all kinds of great horse 132 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:35,240 stories and desert stories and things that will come out of that excursion as well. 133 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:39,840 Yeah, one of the things I wanted to mention when you said you 134 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:48,639 really loved the client. You know, sometimes some of these stories required more 135 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,039 than just my voice, you know, being a female, some of the 136 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,320 stories lend themselves well to a female voice, but you know, a lot 137 00:11:56,399 --> 00:12:01,320 of them, it's better to have them read by a man. And I'm 138 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,559 just so grateful that I've got you to help me with that, and Clay 139 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:11,360 to help me with that, and Justin and it was really fun with a 140 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,799 client to have both of our voices together. And I'd love to do that 141 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,440 with you sometime. I think that would be really fun to do. Yeah, 142 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,639 I've done that with a neomaphen a couple of times and we have a 143 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,399 ball doing it. So you you, you write the scripts and me highlight 144 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,799 what you want me to do and I'll do it and we'll we'll do it 145 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,600 that way. I'd love to do that. So before we go, I 146 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:41,480 wanna help you. Weren't you commissioned to do a to do a piece for 147 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:46,039 was it the state of Nevada or Arizona? Can you talk about that. 148 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,120 Well, I live in Nevada right now. I actually live real close to 149 00:12:52,200 --> 00:13:01,080 Lake Tahoe UM and I had a painting hanging in the Legislatian building and that 150 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,039 was, Yeah, that was a lot of fun to be able to hang 151 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:11,120 up there. They've actually asked me to return next year with many more paintings, 152 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:16,159 so that's going to be really fun. I'd like to maybe go with 153 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,639 more of a Nevada theme at that point. Now that's a heron. Do 154 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:26,279 you do you all have those birds in Nevada? We do. We have 155 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,080 blue herons here and we have white egrets as well. However, this this 156 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,080 one on this let's say this way, this side of me is more of 157 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,320 an ocean. Uh yeah, word, but we have we have those. 158 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:46,080 We have sandhill cranes. We've got a bunch of different big birds here. 159 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:52,799 Yeah, we have a for about from the spring on I was. I 160 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,320 saw her painting, and so we have some of those birds back here behind 161 00:13:56,399 --> 00:14:00,240 us on the ponds. And I would send her pictures and videos. I'm 162 00:14:00,279 --> 00:14:03,759 like, hey, we've got them. Do but I actually, just between 163 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,639 you and I actually got up close to three of them. I don't know 164 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:13,759 how they didn't spook they're the most wary bird probably in the world, next 165 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,080 to a crow, but you can't get anywhere near. A matter of fact, 166 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:22,240 duck hunters will put a herron decoy in the middle of their spread because 167 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,759 it's a huge confidence builder for ducks because ducks know if a heron's there, 168 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:31,879 it's safe, because if a hearing detects any kind of danger, they're gone. 169 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:37,480 And so it's a really interesting bird. But anyway, I wanted to 170 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:39,720 have you on and introduce everybody and let them see how nice you are. 171 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:46,919 And guys, this is somebody who loves the podcasting the audio projects that we 172 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:52,360 that I do, and now she's doing and there's a bunch of us doing 173 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:58,000 it, and she absolutely Ginger loves what she's doing. And I can every 174 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,879 time I talk to her, I can always just kind of sense that. 175 00:15:01,039 --> 00:15:03,679 So you, guys, get over there. There'll be links and eye cards 176 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:09,320 and everything for the hidden corners. Go over there and subscribe. Get her 177 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,200 up to a thousand, like by the end of the week. Let's do 178 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,840 it. Let's show her how much we love these stories and what a great 179 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:20,519 audience you are. I would really appreciate that. So, Ginger, if 180 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,320 you don't have anything else, So I'm gonna go ahead and sign off. 181 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:30,639 Well, thank you so much Cameron first having me on here, and I 182 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,960 look forward to lots of collaboration with you. Yeah, that sounds good to 183 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,559 me. Okay, guys, thanks for hanging with us. This a short 184 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:41,600 little video. I just wanted to introduce you to my friend and I hope 185 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,399 you guys will follow her channel and get to know her because she's gonna I 186 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,639 think she's going to have a good she's got a good thing going. So 187 00:15:48,720 --> 00:16:00,919 thanks for joining us and we'll see you on the next one.