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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
by fan Tracks, your source of information

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and analysis to help you win your
fantasy hockey league. Fuck off, how

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to step on? Stay lost?
Gosh, here's your host, Jesse Soup

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here and Victor back. Coming into
your ear drums from fan Tracks headquarters and

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joining me is Victor Nuno of many
Places, Elite Prospects, Dapper prospects.

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Victor, how you doing. I'm
doing awesome, Jesse. Yeah, definitely

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came into my ear drums right there. If you ever need a wake up

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call, just to just play that
first part of Jesse saying Fantasy Hockey Life,

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it's good, it's good. I
appreciate that, Jesse. I'm awake.

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Now, how are you good?
I have to start out hyped,

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Victor, because there's the music.
The music is fading in or fading out,

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whatever the music is doing. I
gotta get my voice above that thing.

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But yes, we got to start
enthusiastic because we're gonna have fun today.

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We're gonna have fun talk and fantasy
hockey. The season is closer and

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closer. We're talking days away,
not weeks, Victor. Days. I

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don't think I can quite count it
on my fingers and toes yet. I

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gotta check see how many fingers intoor
toes I have. But we're getting within

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that range, I'm pretty sure,
right, Oh yeah, definitely. It's

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very exciting time. The weather has
finally started to change out here in California.

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It's getting a little crisp. Yeah, it's happening. I'm ready.

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That's sixty eight. That's sixty eight
for Victor. That's crisp. That's how

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it goes out there. Oh my
gosh, it's balmy, it's frigid.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody's
feeling for you right now, Victor.

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Everybody's feeling for you. But that's
all right, that's all right. We're

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not haters. We're not haters.
We could all move there if we wanted.

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That. That said, it is, yeah, Wisconsin a little more

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iffy, but really we're actually getting
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We'll see how long it lasts.
But September is always a wonderful month,

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except for the part where we're waiting
for hockey. If you can't wait,

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if you need to while you're on
your your wonderful autumn walks and you're watching

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the leaves fall from the trees,
if your mind is turning to hockey and

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you need to interact with others who
feel the same. You could join our

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discord and just stop looking at the
discord before you cross the street. I'd

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recommend that, but otherwise you can
you could be looking at it and interacting

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with all of our fund friends there. There's a couple hundred people in that

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discord and it's free hit Victor and
myself up on X at fan Hockey Life

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at Victor Newno. Twelve. If
that presents any kind of problem, email

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us Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail dot
com. X can't shut down. They

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can mess with our dms, Victor, but they can't shut down our email.

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That's it's you know, that's like
survivalist stuff email these days. But

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they're also there are a greater level. There are deeper levels to this whole

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situation, and they are found in
the Patreon and Victor, you've got lots

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of cool stuff going to the patreon. Tell the people what's going on.

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Yeah, lots of great stuff.
The Patreon patron casts. We have the

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fantasy ranks, so you can check
out all the different goalies forward D twenty

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twenty three guys. Those have all
kind of been integrated, moved around.

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This gets updated throughout the season two. I know a lot of people put

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out lists every now and then,
which I try to keep them updated in

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real time as things happen, as
guys look good. I try not to

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react too much game by game or
anything like that, or even in a

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small ish sample size, but I
can move guys around after a month or

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two of data, depending on how
it stacks up against the rest of the

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guys. You can also see hits, blocks and shot tears there and top

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ten lists for the prospects or for
each team that we're doing. And of

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course there's the Patron Priority channel.
You can see all the show notes.

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There's a lot of notes for each
show. They're really good to get in

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there. And of course the Tidy
the Tier Dynasty, which we'll be featuring

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on shows throughout the year, and
it's a really great league. If you're

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not already part of it, there's
going to be a new division next year

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and you can be part of that, So get on the waiting list if

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you want. There's only a couple
of names on there right now, but

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that's obviously where we're gonna go to
first when we open up another division next

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summer, Victor. I can hear
the sounds of Gotham. I can hear

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the sounds of New York. Because
we're about to talk Rangers right end.

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We'd like to welcome talk to New
York Rangers Colin Stevenson from Newsday. How

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you doing, Colin, I'm doing
well. I'm doing well. I'm getting

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ready for training camp. The rookie
camp started, and so they're back on

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the ice, and then that can
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That's right, that's right. This
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I gotta say you're you pulled a
good beat here for the New York

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Rangers. I gotta say, I'll
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one level, it was a lot
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the middle of the Eastern Conference playoff
teams, but the differences maybe the year

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before they made it to the conference
finals. This year they lost to the

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Devils in round one and a certain
awesome goalie. In terms of the New

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York Rangers help the team allow only
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year. That's definitely a huge advantage
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of things for the team good but
not great necessarily. A lot of big

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contracts on the team, A couple
more coming up Igor, for example,

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two years away, and we'll get
to him. Just overall calling, how

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was last year perceived by Rangers watchers
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year? I think for fans of
the team it was I wouldn't imagine the

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disappointment. They had gone to the
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and a lot of people, the
super fans, expected them to go deep

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and maybe get to the Cup final
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worked, really what's happened sometimes with
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didn't work as well in the following
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And that's the nature of it,
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process, and we'll see where they
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into twenty twenty three, twenty four. For sure, one of the guys

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who definitely keeps going he's not a
problem for this team are Timmy Pannerin a

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consistent superstar playmaker over the past six
years. I ran the numbers only the

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Oilers Boys, McDavid and Drey's title
in. Nathan McKinnon over there in the

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Avalanche had more points than our Timmy
Panneron. He is an assistant master for

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us fantasy types. That's what we
love. He gets all kinds of assists

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every year. Last year, twenty
nine goals, sixty three assists for ninety

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two points in eighty two games.
He shoots at a fourteen point three percent

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career rate, but takes fewer shots
than the normal superstar, with only two

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and a half a game. Panera's
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of the season. Are you expecting
another Panarin like season? And could you

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please talk to him about taking a
few more shots for me? We will

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definitely when we see him. I
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season. He was pretty bitter.
He did not have a strong playoffs,

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so he had a real good regular
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is what you're interested in. But
obviously he wants to try and win a

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cup. It's not one a cup, and I think he didn't He wasn't

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crazy about what he had done in
the playoffs in twenty twenty two and twenty

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twenty three, he did not have
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left at breakup day. He was
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social media. I've seen, you
know, he got his hair cut over

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the summer and was hair It had
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So I don't know if he's trying
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don't know what the new plan is
for him for this season. There also,

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let's not forget they have a new
coach as well, and Peter la

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Violette, and I think his mandate
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team to play a little bit more
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than they have in the past.
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in all sports, certainly than the
regular season, but in hockey the game

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does change quite a bit, and
so some of the things that are Timmy

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Panarin can maybe do in the regular
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to that extent and in the postseason. So you know, if they're gonna

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try and play playoff hockey in the
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that's gonna mean for ar Timmy Panarin, but he is coming back. I

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think pretty hungry to prove himself and
to try and get to the next level

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or whatever. So I think he's
gonna have a strong season, is what

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I guess. I'm saying. Tremendous
a guy who certainly had a strong season

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as well last year. Mika's abun
a jot. He blew up, especially

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for his fantasy types. Hit new
career high end points thirty nine goals fifty

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to assist ninety one points in eighty
two games. That was ten points more

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than the year before. He also
takes three shots, throws the hit every

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single game. Just tremendous stuff out
of him. In terms of Mika's Abnejad's

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year, how was that perceived?
Do you think we're looking forward to another

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of the same type of production.
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consistent about as far as Mika goes. I do believe that that he's a

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guy who is going to give you
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So I think that I think he's
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No, But he's a solid two
way guy, and I think he's fairly

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consistent, and I think his numbers
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be which is ninety points and whatever, somewhere in the thirty goal region.

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And speaking of guys who had career
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boy he in New York were a
great match. Last year, he put

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up his second best scoring Italian ten
years. That was sixty four points into

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eighty two games, just under three
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And he mostly played with Pannerin that
was his most common wing mate sixty

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percent of his minutes at five on
five. Actually he was more successful if

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you look at the rate stats with
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He scored almost an additional goal per
sixty minutes with Krider than he did

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with Pannerin. But anyway, every
scenario saw New York heavily on the advantage

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when Ziba was on the ice.
More importantly, he was a mainstay on

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that power play, one seventh most
effective power play in the NHL at twenty

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four point zero eight percent scoring.
He was getting off more dangerous shots than

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ever on the power play in terms
of those expected goals per sixty that take

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into account where you're taking the shots
from his rate last year was two point

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six five expected goals per sixty in
his career. It was one point six

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seven, So just hugely better than
his rates in his career. Vinny Trocheck,

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is he locked in for power play
one top six centerman this year and

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what are you expecting that to him? So now that's the interesting question.

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This is something that we don't know. This is something that we're gonna have

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to see with the new coach and
how he aligns the players. There's a

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lot of pressure. I shouldn't say
pressure, but there's a lot of chatter

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around here about guys like Alexis Lafrenier, Philip heedel Coppo Cocko. Those guys

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generally played together on a third line
under Gerard Gallant, and people are a

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little impatient about the fact that Lafreniere, particular, was the number one pick

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overall in the twenty twenty draft and
was supposed to be a superstar hasn't really

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blossomed into a superstar. But part
of that, the Rangers say, is

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because hey, you have Panaran who's
ahead of him at that position. He's

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a left wing. Panaran's a left
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At fifty two goals, a couple
of seasons ago, when you have Panarin

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and Criner at the top of your
left wing depth chart. There then Lafranier

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was relegated to third line ice time. And so now there is again,

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I don't want to say pressure,
but there is chatter about maybe figuring out

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a way to get Lafrinier into the
top two lines. And so how Peter

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la Violet is going to do that. There's a couple of things he's gonna

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he would have to do if he
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be this to move Lafrinier from the
left wing to the right wing, which

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two previous coaches have tried to do
at various times in Lafrignier, and neither

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one of them stuck with a Gallant
and David Quinny before him. So that's

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one thing that that la Violet could
try and do is try and move Lafrinier

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from the left wing to the right
wing and give it some time to work

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and see if that works. The
other thing you could do, quite frankly,

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is because since Philipeedel at twenty odd
goals last year, is the third

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line center and a lot of people
think that he should be the second line

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center. That is another option that
they could do is theoretically flip flop Heedle

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and Trocheck, And so maybe Phil
Heedel gets to play on the second line

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with Panarin, maybe Trocheck ends up
playing on a third slash checking line with

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Krider. So we don't know yet
and won't know until we see a couple

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of preseason games or at least a
few practices in training camp. What la

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Villa is thinking in terms of how
he's gonna align his top six forwards.

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We assume MICA's advantage, AD is
going to be the top center at this

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point. Is it gonna be tro
Check that's a number two center, or

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is it gonna be Hetle less number
two center. Odds are it's gonna be

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Trocheck. He's a veteran guy.
As you said, he did have a

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good year, had a slow start
but a strong finish and had a good

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year overall. He's their best faceoff
man, So there are a lot of

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reasons why you would want him to
be the number two center. But again,

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you have a twenty three year old. I guess it is in Hetel

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who showed so much promise and who
signed a big money, relatively big money

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contract as a third contract this year, and they may be looking to get

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him some more ice time. And
then so when you talk about power play,

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yes, Trocheck was on the first
power play unit for most of the

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season, but I can't promise she
thought's going to be the case this year,

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because if you're gonna try and get
Heatles some power play time, if

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you're gonna try and get laugh for
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Coco, I don't know who's going
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guys. So I can't promise you
that Trocheck is going to be on the

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first power play unit this year.
And I can't even promise you at this

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point that he's gonna be the number
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say probably the number two center,
but I don't know about the powerplay so

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I can't He had a good year, but I can't guarantee anything there.

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All right, good info on those
guys, and let's talk about one of

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their newest editions, Blake Wheeler.
For the first time in over a decade,

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we're going to see Wheeler in a
different jersey other than the Jets.

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And obviously he's a bit older,
but he has been productive even in a

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down year for him, which is
sixty three points. He still was able

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to do quite a lot sixteen goals, thirty nine as sis, fifty four

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hits, thirty five blocks on hundred
and twenty six shots decent number. He

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used to do a lot more with
those peripherals. He used to be great

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for that. He's slowed down a
little bit. Cap leagues eight hundred thousand

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for this one year at that's goal. So I'm really excited about that,

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and obviously great for the Rangers to
get such a strong player for a cheap

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value. So I guess the big
question is where do you think he's going

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to line up and what kind of
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Wheeler. Do you think he's going
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ish point range where he was the
previous three seasons or is he going to

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be closer to a sixty point player
again? Another one where I can't really

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give you a true prediction because I
don't know where he's going to play at

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this point. If you look at
the Rangers roster, they have one top

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six right wing on the roster locked
in right and that would be Coppo Coco,

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who's going to be the other top
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be Wheeler or is it going to
be laugh for Anier, Like, it

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depends if they decide to make a
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to right wing to get him into
the top six, and that means Wheeler

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is going to play on a third
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wing, so that would make a
difference. So is he going to be

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playing on a third line with Phil
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a third line? And it could
be a third line with say something like

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a Chriter tro check Wheeler a third
slash checking line. So this is something

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that is up in the air.
I think most observers believe that Wheelers ticketed

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for the third line on the Rangers
this season. Again, it depends on

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production, depends on how I'm assuming
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wing. I'm assuming that's plan A. Depends on how well Lafernier plays on

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right wing, how comfortable he looks, and if he's comfortable and productive,

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then he's gonna be that second line
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he and Cockle will be the top
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third line ice time for Wheeler,
and I don't know he'll get power play

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time, but it might be second
power play time. So I can't you

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know, I can't really guide you
in terms of what to expect from Wheeler

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without you know, a little bit
more information in terms of where do we

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think he's going to play Right now, I'm guessing he's going to play in

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the third line. If he plays
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he's gonna get you seventy five points
if something doesn't if it doesn't pan out

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with Laffernier on the right side.
And again, Laffernier has played three seasons

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in the league, and he's played
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each season under two separate coaches,
and both previous coaches have ultimately tried him

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on the right move them back to
the left. So I can't promise you

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that he's going to be a permanent
fixture on the right side. And thus

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I can't tell you where Wheeler is
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A lot of unknowns there. I
am more confident in Wheeler being able

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to handle that second line role than
Laffernier myself personally, so well, yeah,

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it's at this point Wheeler's done it
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coaches haven't committed to keeping him there. Of course they see something they

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don't like, or they don't see
something they want to see. I don't

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know. I mean, for most
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it's always come back to those three
called him the kid line, with

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Lafronier and Coco and Heetel playing together
as a third line. And I just

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don't see how that can happen this
year because Coco was entering he's now played

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four years, he's entering his fifth
year, and he has to play on

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one of the top two lines.
And that quote unquote kid line can't be

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your third line anymore because Cocho can't
be on the third line. He's going

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to have to play on one on
top two lines. So whether those three

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kids end up being your second line, which is I suppose as a possibility

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that would happen if you chose to
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that's something that they've tried over the
last three years or so and they've never

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stuck with it. It doesn't seem
to work. So I'm skeptical that they're

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going to do it this way.
But yeah, so I just the kid

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line I don't see coming back.
And so if Coco's playing, let's say,

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with one of the top two lines, and Heeteles on the third line,

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and we don't know where la Fronier
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is in flux. And I just
think that in terms of guys like a

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Wheeler or a Trocheck or even a
Crider, I think, are I can't

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promise you they're going to give you
the numbers that they've given you last year

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or the year before. Yeah,
definitely makes sense. Let's talk about Crider.

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He was the next guy we were
going to talk about specifically, and

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we Jesse and I both had him
in the low high twenties, and he

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ended up closer to seventieth overall in
fantasy. We both thought of him as

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a Tier one guy, and he
had been so great he had We knew

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he was going to regress a little
bit from that near point per game season

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and shooting twenty percent, and he
did, but he fell back a little

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bit more than maybe some of us
thought. It was closer to his previous

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norm right around that fifty fifty five
point guy with tons of hits, a

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decent number of shots. We tracked
bash and he was thirty eight at his

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position, So really good there.
He's got four years left at six point

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five million, and for a guy
who was often getting middle six deployment,

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that's a pretty decent price tag for
someone like that. But we know he

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plays a really important role as well
for the Rangers. Really actually good defensively

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too, really good all around player
is Crider. But we're wondering if he

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can be more than what he was
last season because he's been that fifty five

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ish point player for several seasons and
then he had that spike up too close

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to eighty. So what do you
think it's going to be this year.

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I think it's gonna be closer to
what it was last season than the season

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before. As you say, we
all knew that he wasn't going to score

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fifty two goals again the way he
did, and you know, in twenty

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one twenty two and they scored in
twenty two twenty three, he scored thirty

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six goals, which is is a
good number I think for the type of

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player he is. He's not I
don't know that he's a superstar. I

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think he's a real good player's a
nice player, and I think he has

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He's played a lot with zabata Jad
and they know each other left and right.

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They have set plays that they do. The one that sticks out is

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we're as a bad gets the puck
deep in his own zone and he just

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he knows Crider's got to speed and
he can just throw it up the ice

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and have Crider skate onto it.
So they know each other very well.

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They know each other's games. They
play together for so long that they think

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alike. And I think multiple coaches
have come in and they've tried different things,

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and it always comes back to Crider
AND's bandage At playing together. So

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I think I think when all said
and done, Rider ends avantage At are

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going to play together. And I
think that Krider is what he is like.

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He never scored thirty goals. We
always thought he was gonna scoll This

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is gonna be the year he scores
thirty, and then some injury or some

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super long slump or something would crash
him and he would get twenty eight or

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something, and then all of a
sudden, he scored fifty two goals two

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years ago when he comes back to
thirty six last year, so I think

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that's where he is. I think
he's a mid thirty thirty five ish goal

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guy and a fifty five ish point
player, and I just I wouldn't bank

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on him doing doing much more than
that. I think the season he had

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two years ago it was a career
year, and I think the season he

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had last year is probably more about
where he's going to be. It's a

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fascinating puzzle of all these guys fitting
together because New York's got a very respectable

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second line. Even without the Kid
line and those guys coming in there,

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they have a very solid top six, or at least most of that top

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six. But looking at that set
of three, the Kid line, as

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you say, Philippeedal really was the
one who produced the most. Last year

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he did he had forty five points, the third highest goal total on the

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team, with twenty two and seventy
four games, basically doubled his previous season.

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I his seven goal postseason the year
before really was the time I think

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he broke out on the national stage
and it became clear this was not a

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bus this was a guy who was
hitting his own in his age. The

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games he missed last year. Now
I'm worried about that. It sounds like

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it was due to a hit to
the head he took an October. I

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don't know if that was a concussion, But then he also took a hit

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this summer in international competition, possibly
fractured his face. I thought I read

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and the report. Maybe you have
more current information. But talking about these

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guys, is anything about Heat'll separating
himself from that group. Is there a

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chance maybe he's the one who sneaks
onto the power play one or where does

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he fit into this whole picture?
Yeah, again, with a new coach,

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it's all the stuff that that's got
to be figured out. You're right,

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he had the best year of any
of those guys, and he was

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the one that when the season started
was left on the third line. There

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were nights when he was playing with
a couple of guys that we're not as

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good as he was. Let's put
it that way. Because the start of

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the season, I think they had
Coco up on the top line with Zabannah

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Jaden Crider, and they started I
remember they had the Vitali kraftsoff last year.

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At the start of the season.
They started crafts off on the second

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line with Panarin and Trocheck. Kraftsoff
got hurt and like his second shift on

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opening night, and then so they
moved moved Lafranier into that spot on the

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right side of Panarin and Trocheck and
that, and they rolled with that for

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ten or twelve games or something like
that, and eventually they settled back down

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and put him on the third line. But for those ten or twelve games

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that where you know we're Laufernier was
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Phil Heatl was on the third line. I want to say, by

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himself obviously had two wingers. I
was playing with Jimmy VC and these types

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of guys maybe Barkley Gudreau on the
right side. He wasn't playing with with

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legit sort of goal getters like and
top offensive players. And he still was

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able to get his points and get
his goals and have a big year himself.

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And obviously the kid line came back
together. They keep coming back to

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that, and all three of them
had nice years. They were a nice

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third line. But the Rangers set
up has been that they don't have really

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a first line, second line,
and a true third line. It's almost

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like they have two first lines,
or co first lines, if you will.

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And then that kid line had always
been more of a second line type

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in style anyway, and we just
again, I don't expect those three guys

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to be together again. So I
don't know who Philipedo is gonna play with,

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and I don't know if he's gonna
play with Wheeler. I don't know

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if he's gonna play. I have
no idea, but I think what he's

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proven is that he can play.
Now, you brought up the fact that

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he missed games with a head injury. It took a hard hit to the

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head. I don't think that they're
willing to use the C word, but

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I'm pretty sure, or I shouldn't
say, I'm pretty sure. My guests

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would be that he had a concussion
and he I think there was a later

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time in the later in the season
where he missed some games, and I

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think it was it was somewhat related, let's put it like that. But

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he's missed times with other injuries.
He had a broken hand or something two

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years ago, and I don't know
how durable he is in terms of giving

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you eighty two games. Right if
he plays say sixty seven or seventy one

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games. What does that do and
who's he playing with? That's an X

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factor. I think he's a good
player. I think he's going to get

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points, but I think we have
to see who he lands with on his

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wings and how much ice time he
does get and the power play time of

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all of them in terms of those
three kids, who's most likely to play

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on power Play one if they decide
to mix up power Play one. I

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like he he's the one that got
that time last year. But again it's

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a different coach, so I don't
know. I have knowing. I'm sorry

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to be so helpless but like to
help you until the coach kind of shows

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tips his hand and shows us what
those line combinations look like. On day

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one of training camp, we're all
just guessing, Yeah, you can't make

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it up. This is you're speaking
the truth because we don't even know.

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Maybe Lovio I doesn't even know at
this point. We'll have to see how

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everything comes together. But all I
know is Lafrenier and Coco have got the

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reputation, they certainly have the pedigree, They're gonna get the opportunity, but

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they hadn't really produced yet. And
I don't know whether that has just been

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a matter of the role that they
were given under the previous administration and the

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minutes they got, or whether there's
still something holding back their game that they

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have not been just an outstanding breakthrough
of young players like you might expect from

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players drafted so highly this far into
their careers. Do you think that there's

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Do you think that this is the
year that we see the jump out of

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00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:30,680
those two guys? I do,
actually I do. For Coco for sure,

406
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,160
if you look at his trajectory,
I think he had I don't know

407
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,880
he had ten or eleven goals.
Is his rookie year as an eighteen year

408
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,119
old coming over from Europe, English
being his second language, and he had

409
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,079
worked hard to be able to communicate
in English. It had to be hard

410
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,000
for him, and he didn't They
lived in a with a billet family and

411
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:53,079
didn't get to see his family very
much, and they didn't have They didn't,

412
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,000
to the surprise of most of us, they didn't go out and get

413
00:27:56,039 --> 00:28:00,119
a veteran finished guy to be in
the locker room to be as brother that

414
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,759
season. He was just on his
own as an eighteen year old. And

415
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,359
then of course Covid shut the league
down. We had some injuries in and

416
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,680
out, and then as he was
starting to get going, Covid shut the

417
00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:12,160
league down. When the league came
back, remember they came back in August

418
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:15,880
in the in the Bubble playoffs.
I think he was one of their stronger

419
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,559
players. The second year, his
second year, was that fifty six game

420
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,839
Covid season. We got Covid at
some point during the year, you know,

421
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:26,599
just didn't play fifty six games.
And in this third year, he

422
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,039
had an injury, had a broken
wrist that that knocked him out for a

423
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:34,880
huge chunk of time. And so
last year was his fourth season, and

424
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:40,200
we had a pretty good year in
terms of production. He had what did

425
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,480
he have? He had the eighteen
goals and forty points, which is not

426
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:47,759
again not great, but again you're
playing a lot of third line ice time.

427
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:52,279
He's not getting much, if any
power play time at all, so

428
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,319
not bad. And in the meantime, his defensive metrics. I'm not the

429
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:03,279
biggest analytics guy, but if you
look at his defensive metrics as a rookie,

430
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,200
and then they've gotten better over the
years because he's such a puck possession

431
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,640
guy. When he gets the puck, he holds onto it, and so

432
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,400
if he has it, then the
other team obviously doesn't have it. And

433
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:17,440
so if you look at their lines, every line is better with Cocko on

434
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:22,319
it then without him on it.
So he's trending in the right direction.

435
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,599
And I do think that if he
consistently gets that top six ice time and

436
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,440
gets some power play time, I
think that he's poised to really have a

437
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,799
nice year. Now. Is he
going to score forty goals? No,

438
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,640
I don't. I don't think so. I don't think that they're set up

439
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,960
for him to do that. But
I think he'll put up good numbers lap

440
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:41,279
for a year. I would think
would be the same way. And he

441
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,599
had I think twelve goals in the
fifty six game season his rookie year.

442
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,359
I think he had nineteen his second
year at sixteen last year. People are

443
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,799
disappointing that he hasn't scored forty goals
yet, and but he hasn't been that

444
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:56,319
stud that Tim Stutsla is or that
Jack Hughes turned out to be. In

445
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,119
New Jersey. He's the number one
overall, and people just don't think that

446
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,559
when you're number one overall. In
twenty twenty and you've been talked up so

447
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,319
much that you can just be a
good player. We'll see. I think

448
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:11,039
he's gonna be a good player,
But is he gonna be next level?

449
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,319
Again, that depends on role,
depends on how he's used and when Gallant

450
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,440
would say, hey, he's got
Panarin and cried or in front of him,

451
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,319
and this is what it is.
And there's a certain truth to that

452
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,839
and certain logic to that. And
the question is now, in year four,

453
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,880
can they find a way to elevate
him to the next level? And

454
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:36,200
as we discussed before, I think
that the path to that will be having

455
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,880
him switch from left wing to right
wing and get more consistent ice time in

456
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,680
the top six. And but I
don't see him scoring forty goals if that's

457
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,359
what you're looking for, you know
what I mean. I think maybe over

458
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,920
twenty maybe if he's got a good
year consistently in the top top six,

459
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:56,160
maybe twenty plus twenty five something like
that. But I don't think he's gonna

460
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,440
go crazy. I don't think he's
going to go from sixteen goals to forty

461
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:06,680
goals. One guy who does not
need to elevate another level next year on

462
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,720
the blue line, Adam Fox.
He had another top nach season, first

463
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:15,279
team All Star and wasn't Eric Carlson
comeback miracle year? His second Norris in

464
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:19,160
three years. I would say seventy
two points in eighty two games. That

465
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:25,160
was only seventh in scoring among defencemen
last year, but in the last decade

466
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,519
that was tied for the nineteenth highest
because last year defenceman we're going nuts on

467
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,720
scoring. Fox gets two shots,
a block and a half. He munches

468
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,960
minutes out there, the most skater
time on ice on the team, seventh

469
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,880
in the NHL r Timmy had one
more minute than Fox on the power play

470
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,839
and that was it. He's been
very well paid entering the second year of

471
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:51,599
seven times nine point five mill boy? What makes Fox special? And are

472
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,200
you expecting another one of these years? Colin? So I'll ask the second

473
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,720
part first, which will be yes. Are you look at that the numbers

474
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:04,680
that he had to last year and
you say seventy two and he's down and

475
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,839
all that. You got to realize
too, that he again was missing his

476
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:13,039
partner Ryan Lindgren for a good chunk
of the season. Lindbren got hurt and

477
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,960
was out, and so Fox had
to play with he played with Ben Harper

478
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:21,240
or whoever. And then finally they
made the trade and they got Nico mccola

479
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,519
and he was able to play with
Mykola and then or Mikola however you pronounced

480
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:28,759
it, and then and then Lindgren
finally came back and all that. But

481
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,960
but Fox kind of was out there
for a long time without his trusted partner.

482
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:37,799
That they go back to the US
development program together since they're sixteen years

483
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:43,240
old. And so if if Lindren's
healthy, the Rangers are a better team

484
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,920
because he can play with Fox and
Fox can can be secure back there.

485
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Fox is going to get his He's
a great player, obviously. He runs

486
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,759
the power play, plays the penalty
kill. He's a better defensive player than

487
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,160
and any of us expected him to
be. He's just really a good all

488
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,039
around player, a good solid all
around You're a great player, I dare

489
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:04,759
say so. Yeah. I think
that he's gonna keep going. He's gonna

490
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,200
give you what he gives you,
what he's always giving you, and I

491
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,880
think he's gonna always be in the
mix to be the Norris Trophy winner.

492
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,480
Is he Kale mccarr spectacular? No, but he does. He's a different

493
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,200
player, right, So he's probably
a little bit better and a little steadier

494
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:22,200
on the defensive end than is mccarr
And I think that those two were gonna

495
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,799
every year, it's gonna be one
or the other of them in the hunt

496
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:29,319
for the Norris Trophy, and I
think this year will be the same as

497
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,960
every other year in that regard.
Yeah, I definitely love Adam Fox around

498
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,920
these parts, that's for sure.
And another guy that I absolutely love is

499
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,359
KeAndre Miller. He's been one of
my favorites for a long time, so

500
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:44,519
fun to watch. I just love
all the little things that he does on

501
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,680
the puck before the puck arrives angles. He plays the physicality, not overly

502
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:52,680
aggressive, but when he needs to
be, just really like him. And

503
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,599
I'm pleased that he's actually becoming more
valuable in fantasy too, because for the

504
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,079
first couple of seasons he played a
lot of games and he was valuable to

505
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,759
the team, but he didn't score
a lot this season this past season forty

506
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:07,680
five point pace. In those seventy
nine games, he played a large number

507
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,440
of hits and blocks, not a
lot of shots, but decent for the

508
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:14,239
peripheral coverage too. Not obviously not
a lot of power play points. He's

509
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,039
that's not his main role, but
pretty good, especially for the value that

510
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:21,440
he signed three point eight seven million
for two more years. That's going to

511
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,320
be great and cap leagues, I
think he can outperform that value. And

512
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:28,079
he's just a guy that is going
to be on the ice lot and he's

513
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:30,159
really important to the team. So
my question about Miller, though, is

514
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:34,480
he shot eight percent, which helped
him get the nine goals, and he

515
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,519
definitely had more A twos than a
one secondary assists. So do you think

516
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,320
that Miller is going to see some
regression or can he keep over that forty

517
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,119
point pace. No, I don't
think he's going to see any regression.

518
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:51,119
I think, if anything, it's
going to get better because I think what

519
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,159
happened this past year was that he
got some power play time which he never

520
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,639
got before, right, And I
think I'd see him as getting more power

521
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,519
plays time this next season here because
if you look at the way their power

522
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:06,679
play had been set up, obviously
Fox is the point man on power play

523
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,440
one, and then Jacob Truba had
been the point man on power Play two,

524
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:13,800
and then there were times in the
latter part of last season in the

525
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,599
second half and in the final third
of last season, where as Miller's game

526
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,239
got stronger, he ended up getting
some time on the power play as supplanting

527
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,679
either supplanting Truba as the second power
play point man or them playing with two

528
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,079
defenseman on that second power play unit. And so I think that he did

529
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:36,719
get Keyandre did some power play time
in the latter part of the season,

530
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,639
and I think that he's going to
get more this season because again new coach

531
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,199
said it a million times a ready. We will have to see how he

532
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,079
does it. But I think he's
going to play the guys that he believes

533
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:52,599
can play. And I think Miller
is a guy that he's gonna learn very

534
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,679
quickly. Laviolette, This is he's
going to learn very quickly that KeAndre Miller

535
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,880
is a guy that he's going to
be able to count on and trust.

536
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:04,559
And I think DeAndre Miller is a
better point man for that second powerplay unit

537
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:08,360
than Jacob Truba. So I fully
expect that Miller is gonna is gonna probably

538
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,800
take over as a second point man
or a second power play two point man

539
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,719
if you will, and I think
he's gonna get more power play time.

540
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,280
And thus I think he's gonna probably
score a little bit more than maybe he

541
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:28,039
did even this past season. We
need to talk about Jacob Truba. Boy.

542
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,400
He may not be a superstar by
some or Fox is a superstar by

543
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:37,639
everybody's perspective, but for us fantasy
folks, we love Truba. He seems

544
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,880
no threat to take over the power
play duties, but he lacked the field

545
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,840
on this team in blocks and hits
two and a half shots, two and

546
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,960
a half blocks, or nearly three
hits a game. He was the number

547
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,440
one defenseman in combined block, shots
and hits, and his thirty points in

548
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,840
eighty two games were just gravy.
On top of that, advanced metrics don't

549
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:59,360
seem to like him in terms of
his actual defense, especially on the PK.

550
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,840
New York was a little bit worse
with him on the ice than off

551
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:07,239
it, but that was that was
when he was on the ice without Miller,

552
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,519
his opponent's scoring got especially rough.
Of that was a pretty small sample.

553
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,119
What is Truba's role on this New
York Rangers team this year? And

554
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,639
can the Rangers please just keep using
him like they have because I really like

555
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,639
getting that production again? What's his
role to be determined to some degree by

556
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:27,599
the new coach, but I think
his role is more of a leadership type

557
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:30,880
thing and more of a defensive role. I think there's a transition happening there.

558
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,239
When he first came to the Rangers. You remember, he's coming off

559
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,280
a fifty point season with Winnipeg and
they came to the Rangers, and I

560
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,519
think his role here was probably more
offensive. But as his partner KeAndre Miller

561
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:46,280
has developed his game and his offense
has blossomed a little bit. I think

562
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:52,320
you're gonna see Truba become more of
a defensive role, right. I think

563
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:57,000
the balance on that second deep pair, if you will, is going to

564
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:01,239
shift, and it's gonna be where
our KeAndre is the offensive guy and Truba's

565
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,079
the stay at home guy. More
so, Truba's the more physical guy,

566
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,639
and he's pointed out the hits and
block shots, and he blocks a million

567
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,519
shots. I think he's gonna gravitate
towards being a more of a defensive and

568
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,719
now he's gonna be a true shutdown, mark stall, stay at home,

569
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,480
don't cross the blue line kind of
guy. But he is gonna be a

570
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:23,320
guy who's gonna be defense first and
allow KeAndre to go forward. A little

571
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,400
bit more, and so I think
that's as far as yon Ice roll,

572
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,360
that's where it's gonna be. But
he's also the inspirational guy. He fires

573
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,000
him up with some of these big
hits. It's it's not every hit is

574
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,039
gonna lay a guy out and knock
him on his back or anything like that,

575
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,239
but he does fire the team up
with those types of hits. He

576
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,199
will fight, and he's pretty good
fighter. When when that happens, I

577
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,679
think at one point, I don't
know if I don't remember if he finished

578
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,360
as the leader in fights, but
I think for most of the season he

579
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,239
was the leader or tied with Gudreau
as the leader in fights. He does

580
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,400
all of those type things, those
intangibles if you want to call whatever you

581
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920
want to call him. He fights, he hits, he blocked shots,

582
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,440
and if he doesn't score fifty points, I think he can still help you.

583
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,480
And I think that's going to be
the role for Truba going forward.

584
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:08,639
And he's great in the locker room. You guys really rallies the guys around,

585
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,920
and that's again that's not something that
you're gonna get fantasy points for.

586
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,480
But in terms of as far as
helping the team, win. He is

587
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:21,400
helping the team win in lots of
ways beyond scoring points. Oh, I'm

588
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,280
getting all the points I need from
Truba. He can fight, he can

589
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,599
be happy in the locker room.
I'm good with all those things as greatman

590
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:30,360
too. A couple more guys we
wanted to mention one, Eric Gustafson,

591
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:35,599
following the Lobbiolette over from Washington and
then a little bit of a journey in

592
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,800
the last couple of years. Is
he going to have a role with this

593
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,079
team? What do you think he's
going to be doing there? So my

594
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,679
expectation would be that he would be
that third pair left side defenseman, right,

595
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,360
because if you look at their defense, the top five are fairly well

596
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:53,800
set. You have Fox and Lyndgren, you have Miller and Truba, and

597
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,559
you have Braden Schneider as the right
side guy on the third pair. And

598
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,000
so the one thing we don't know, or the one thing that's not set

599
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:04,280
in stone, is who's going to
be the left side guy and that third

600
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,880
pair. And at this point you
would have to think that Gustafson is,

601
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,440
you know, the most likely guy
to be that third pair lefty. Now

602
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:16,639
there's there is Zach Jones, who's
a prospect that they like quite a bit,

603
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,480
and I'm sure they'll give him a
long look in the preseason to see

604
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:25,079
if if he can can beat gustupson
out and claim a regular role. But

605
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,960
I started in that role last year
as the third pairer left side guy next

606
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,440
to Schneider and obviously didn't last He
got the first crack at that. Eventually

607
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:39,360
they started going back and forth between
he and Leebore Hyak, and then at

608
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some point they sent Jones down.
I guess they felt like it was more

609
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,159
important as a young player for him
to be a number one in the American

610
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,639
League than to be a number six
and a half in the NHL. But

611
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,639
I think they do still like him, and he's gonna require waivers to go

612
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,800
down to the minor leagues this year, so it's gonna be harder for them

613
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,840
to send him to the minor leagues
without risking losing him. So it's much

614
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,760
it's very likely that he's going to
be on the team. Now. Whether

615
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,519
he's going to be on the team
is the sixth or the seventh certainly remains

616
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:15,480
to be seen. I would think
though, based on the needs for that

617
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:22,360
specific spot, third pair left side
defenseman next to Braden Schneider, who's already

618
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:30,920
established himself. I think Gustupson's style
and gifts probably lend him to be a

619
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:35,400
safer choice to play over Zach Jones, who is five ten and one hundred

620
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,000
and seventy seven pounds or whatever he
is. I think a bigger, more

621
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:44,800
veteran guy makes more sense in that
spot than a young guy who's undersized.

622
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:51,400
So I don't know what that means
for Zach Jones, but my projection would

623
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,360
be that Gustupson probably would be that
third pair left side guy, but it's

624
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,719
I can't say that it's written in
stone as of yet. Yeah, Zach

625
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,440
Jones was actually the next guy I
was going to ask you about. You

626
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:07,400
answered already a little bit there,
But he's someone who we're going to cover

627
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,760
in a different part of the show. But he's someone that I've been excited

628
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,440
about for a while, and it
just there hasn't been an opportunity, it

629
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,119
hasn't been a role. So I
mean, that's that's what you just said

630
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:17,079
there. It's going to be between
those two, and you think maybe someone

631
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:20,960
has the inside track there. Yeah, No, I just think that for

632
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,280
that particular role and this is why
I thought last year as well, it's

633
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,119
not It's got less to do with
Zach Jones than the role that's available.

634
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,679
Zach Jones is an undersized guy,
but he's a smart offensive player. He

635
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,280
can run a power player. You
already have Adam Fox who's going to get

636
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,559
most of the power play time,
and we already discussed I believe that KeAndre

637
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,079
Miller is going to get more power
play times. So I don't know.

638
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,639
If you have a power play guy, a five foot ten hundred and seventy

639
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:52,159
five hundred and eighty pound power play
guy in Zach Jones, and you can't

640
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,480
give him power play time, then
I don't know that he's the best fit

641
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,199
for that opening that you do have. Now, again, he's a good

642
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,639
player, he's accomplished everything he can
accomplish in the minor league level, and

643
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,880
they do like him, they'll probably
want him here. But to me,

644
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:16,559
that third line, I'm sorry,
that third pair rule me personally. I

645
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,639
prefer a bigger guy, more defensive
minded guy, and I just don't see

646
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,840
how Zach Jones fits that mold.
But it's sure it would be nice to

647
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,760
have him if anything, God forbid, anything happens to one of the two

648
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,119
guys ahead of him, you know
what I mean. I don't know.

649
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:37,000
We'll see, but yeah, I
do think it's between those two guys for

650
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,280
that one spot. Now, I
wrote for my newspaper. I guess it

651
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,000
was Wednesday, the first day of
rookie Camp, that Matthew Robertson, of

652
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:49,440
all the guys who were at rookie
Camp, Matthew Robertson probably had the best

653
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:54,400
chance of making the opening night roster
at that role. I don't see anybody

654
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,960
else is at rookie Camp that's going
to be on the roster unless something crazy

655
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:01,159
happens, barring any or anything like
that. But I do think there is

656
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,159
a competition, open, competition for
that sixth spot. And I think that

657
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Matthew Robertson, there's a second round
pick in twenty nineteen who's played two years

658
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:13,960
of minor league hockey, who's still
well thought of in the organization. I

659
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:16,920
think I think they owe it to
him and to themselves to give him a

660
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,800
look as well and put him in
the mix for that For that those two

661
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,280
spots, I should say six and
seventh, So we'll see about that,

662
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:30,199
But I so I would say that
those Gustofson, Jones. I would throw

663
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,039
matt Matt Robertson in there, and
then Connor Mackey, Ben Harper. All

664
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:40,239
these guys are going to be in
the mix for that sixth slash seventh defense

665
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,280
spot, and it's to be determined. My favorites right now would be would

666
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:51,159
be Gustufson and Zach Jones, but
I can't rule out Matthew Robertson or Connor

667
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,639
Mackey at this point. Wonderful.
All right, let's move over to the

668
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,920
crease. The Rangers were ranked fifteenth
and expected goals against per sixty, but

669
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,920
conceded only eighth amount of actual goals
per game. I think we all know

670
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,519
why. They have one of the
best collies in the world, Igor Shastyrkin.

671
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:13,639
He's fantastic, He outperforms his protection, his delta. Fenwick is one

672
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:17,199
of the best in the league's twenty
five goals save above expected just incredible.

673
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,920
Two years left at five point six
seven million, even pretty good for those

674
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,239
cap leagues, and we know that
Jonathan Quick was brought in to be his

675
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,159
backup. I'm not sure how much
of his game is really left. It

676
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:32,760
seems like he's gone a bit downhill, so I would expect shast Jerkin to

677
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,440
be the volume starter here. I
don't can't imagine that's changing, and I

678
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,840
would imagine he gets similar numbers,
maybe even ross a percentage increase a little

679
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,280
bit. But what do you think
we can expect from the crease from the

680
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,559
Rangers this season? Yeah, no, I'm right there with you. I

681
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:52,639
actually even think that Shist can be
better this year than he was last year.

682
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:57,639
If you'll remember, he didn't start
off last year. I wouldn't say

683
00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,679
struggled, but he had a phenomenal
year two years ago. And I think

684
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,280
last year the start of the year, probably the first two months maybe of

685
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,480
the season, he was ordinary and
I had to play his way. It

686
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:14,639
was into back into where we expect
him to be. It was it wasn't

687
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,920
quite all the way at the All
Star break, but the first two or

688
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,519
so months of the season, I
think he was not the same guy as

689
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:23,559
he was a year before. And
I think, and so I think,

690
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:28,719
assuming he cleans that up, whatever
the reasons were for the slow start,

691
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,800
and there could be anything, these
guys aren't robots there people. He was

692
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,559
a new father, so that may
have had something to do with his focus

693
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:37,760
in terms of training, I'm not
saying in the games or anything like that,

694
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,599
but who knows. I don't know
what it was. It may have

695
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:45,000
been that, it just it may
just have been a normal sort of I

696
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:49,239
had a crazy good year last year, and I can't possibly live up to

697
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,119
that, and I'm gonna have a
natural sort of comeback come down from that.

698
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:55,880
Whatever it was, he was not
the same guy in the first two

699
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,880
months, but he was and the
rest of the seasons now that he's played

700
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,679
and again last or not again,
I should say last year or two was

701
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000
the first year he's played over here
where he didn't have any kind of an

702
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,880
injury. If you remember, the
first couple of years he was here,

703
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:14,320
he had a groin injury every year, and this first year actually had a

704
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,760
groin injury, he got into a
car accident, he had an ankle injury,

705
00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:21,880
and then the second year he had
a groin injury that kept him out

706
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,039
of three weeks or what have you. And so this past year he was

707
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:28,920
healthy all year, made it through, played the most games he's ever played,

708
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,480
And now that he's done that,
I fully expect him to do it

709
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:35,760
again. So yes, I expect
that Igor is gonna be as good as

710
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,840
he was last year, and I
would say he's probably even gonna be better

711
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:43,039
than he was last year and closer
to what he was two years ago when

712
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:47,719
when he won the Vezano. And
then as far as Jonathan Quick, I

713
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,760
think we're all curious as to what
they're going to get out of Jonathan Quick.

714
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,840
Right, Igor is great and all, but he's not gonna play eighty

715
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,960
two games. And I don't know
that you want playing seventy two games either,

716
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:06,159
if that means you're gonnagor is gonna
play sixty four. You're gonna need

717
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,840
Jonathan Quick to play to start eighteen
games and maybe come off the bench in

718
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,639
a couple of games, and you're
gonna need him to be good and whatever

719
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:17,519
ice time he gets right and can't
just come out there and just give up

720
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:21,639
four goals every night. So he's
gonna have to play well. And I'm

721
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:28,079
curious as to how well he is
going to adjust and adapt to that backup

722
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,079
role where your ice time is not
consistent and you don't know when you're gonna

723
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:35,559
play next, and it might be
once a week or it might not be

724
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:38,519
once a week. And I remember
when Alexander Georgiev was with the Rangers.

725
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:43,920
He did not do well in that
role. The infrequent ice times and games

726
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,599
and starts and stuff. He just
did not handle it. He played best,

727
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,480
It's just Durkin was hurt. It's
just Durkin had that growing poll that

728
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:52,400
kept him out for three weeks and
Georgiev could be the number one. He

729
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,559
played great in that stretch the rest
of the year, which just Jerkin was

730
00:48:55,639 --> 00:49:00,280
healthy and playing the games he needed
to play. Georgiev didn't. I don't

731
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,840
handle the infrequent ice time very well, and so I'm curious how Jonathan Quick,

732
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,039
a guy who's Hall of Famer maybe
and two time Cup champion three times

733
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:14,760
actually if you count this past year
when he was a backup, I'm curious

734
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,840
as to how he's going to handle
that backup role. And you need him

735
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,559
to be good, and until he
proves it to me, I don't know

736
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:25,960
whether he can be good in that
role. Tremendous stuff, Colin. This

737
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:29,880
has been some great insight on the
New York Rangers. Why don't you tell

738
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,400
people how they can keep up with
your work all season? I'm on primarily

739
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,639
on X formerly known as Twitter,
and my handle is calling s Newsday and

740
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,360
then if you're looking forward to read
a story once in a while. I'm

741
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,320
on the newsday website Newsday not Com
Slash Sports Tremendus. Thank you so much

742
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,599
for coming on today, Colin.
Good luck following those Rangers this year well

743
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,519
and thanks for having me. It's
been a blast hanging out with you guys,

744
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:58,719
and plenty time you need me again, just reach out. I'm here

745
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:15,199
for you. Wilson sent all that's
getting fire passed off. Quick grab Now

746
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:21,519
it's your winger. Goalie Talk with
Cats Silverman, Cats Instincts. Time for

747
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:27,159
another Cat's instincts with Cat Silverman in
goal Maag New York Ranger Edition. So

748
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,360
we got a couple of interesting guys
talk about. We're going to start with

749
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:37,199
Dylan Grand and Grand was a twenty
twenty fourth round pick by the Rangers.

750
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,679
He's a little bit undersized, which
is probably partly why he lasted a little

751
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:45,000
bit longer one hundred and seventy two
pounds. He was the guy who stepped

752
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,119
in for Canada when Cosa couldn't hack
it back in their U twenty World Junior

753
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,320
Championship. People may remember they were
really excited about Cosa and it didn't happen

754
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,880
Back in twenty twenty two and anyways, Grand, he was great in the

755
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,320
six games one GAA nine twenty five
save percentage and we're to a gold medal.

756
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,360
Not to discount his performance, but
I think a lot of goalies could

757
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,239
have played really well behind that Canada
team. But his equivalence he is looking

758
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,199
and the low thirties, high twenties, so about twenty percent is where he

759
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,159
is down as D plus three just
finished the HL season, looks like some

760
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,719
decent guys, some come Talbot,
some Elia Brisgolaf, some many Fernandez,

761
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,719
so average starters there. Looking at
his saved percentage above expected in the HL

762
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:37,119
this past season, it was really
good despite that kind of on the surface

763
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,800
rough transition from the WHL to the
HL. He had a three point zero

764
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,519
one GAA eight ninety four saved percentage
in thirty two games for the Hartford Woolpack.

765
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:46,639
But under the hood it looked a
little bit better. So, Kat,

766
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,280
what can you tell us? What
do your instincts tell us about Dylan

767
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,719
Grand. I've got a real soft
spot for him. I you guys know,

768
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,599
I love my undersized goalies who get
overlooked unfairly. He hit faceoff against

769
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:04,480
drs all a scar of at the
twenty nineteen U eighteen Plank at Gretzky Cup

770
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:06,639
and looked really good in that game, and I was like, all,

771
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:09,280
this kid's the next big thing.
And then because he is only six feet

772
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:15,440
tall, Bucks seventy Bucks seventy five
got a little overlooked there. Obviously was

773
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,800
shifted to the side for Sebastian Coosa
until took over for him there during the

774
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:24,199
twenty Championship. Yeah, I think
he's a fun guy because he's the opposite

775
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:30,039
of a lot of those undersized goaltenders
who try to make themselves a little bit

776
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:35,719
bigger, try and give themselves a
little bit more, try to take away

777
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,719
some of that space by standing a
little farther out. He plays really conservatively,

778
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:45,920
and he plays really a really controlled, just position based game, and

779
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:51,360
so I assume part of that is
the transitional struggles that he had between the

780
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:55,079
WHL and the AHL as he got
used to just what sort of speed he

781
00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:01,800
needed to display at the HL level
to he'll replicate what he does depth wise,

782
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,320
But I think he's good. He
matches what the Rangers like from their

783
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:12,880
goaltenders, which is those slightly more
conservative playing. They don't they draft an

784
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:17,199
Egorciaus Sterkin instead of instead of a
guy like Mark Andre Flurry or Jonathan Quick,

785
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,760
they keep someone who's a little more
controlled, although they do have Jonathan

786
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:28,440
Quick as they're veteran on the team
right now. So yeah, I like

787
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,440
him. I think he's going to
be an NHL or one day. I

788
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:36,679
just don't know how soon that is, And I don't know where he'll fall

789
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:39,760
in their depth chart or if he'll
get crowded out and need to go to

790
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:46,960
a different team. Yeah, he's
already had one HL season, probably has

791
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,440
another one. Probably a little too
early to expect him to take the NHL

792
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:55,639
rains, but he might be similar
or even better at this point than Quick,

793
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,679
who's at the tail end of his
career. So that's transition is probably

794
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,679
gonna happen soon. And of course
they have just Jerkins. They don't need

795
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,920
to worry too much. Yeah,
they'll be fine no matter what. They'll

796
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:13,039
be fine. After they drafted Grand
in twenty twenty, they can win a

797
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:19,559
complete opposite direction with Talon Boyko,
who is massive six foot eight and he

798
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:24,440
was drafted in twenty twenty one in
the fourth round, and so he was

799
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:29,400
traded from Tri City to Kelowna last
season where he was the main guy there,

800
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:35,960
so he's he's in the WHL and
that was a well. Actually that

801
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:38,880
was last season where he was traded
to Kelowna and then this past season he

802
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:45,039
was with the Rockets and they were
the Memorial Cup hosts and he only got

803
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:49,280
into one playoff game but had sever
a lot in the regular season forty he

804
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,559
should make his transition to the HL
this year. Talan Boinko in the WHL

805
00:54:53,760 --> 00:55:00,920
had above average expected save percentage and
or save above save percentage above and goals

806
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:05,079
expected but he was just barely above
average, So even though his raw numbers

807
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:07,880
look poor. So what are your
instincts, cat tell us about Boyco.

808
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:13,000
It's interesting because I feel every couple
of years the Rangers do draft someone who

809
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:17,440
just goes completely against their preferred style, and it seems like they do it

810
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:21,840
just to make sure that they're not
pigeonholing themselves, and it seems that's what

811
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,360
this move was. I'm not super
enamored with his game, but I don't

812
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,599
hate it. There were a couple
of WHL goaltenders who were bigger, who

813
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:37,239
really had some trouble with controlling their
game, and he wasn't necessarily one of

814
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,320
them. Matt Sogard is my litmus
test for guys who raise the red flag

815
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,679
for how energetic they are at their
size, and I feel like Boycot doesn't

816
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,119
quite fall that far on that end
of the spectrum. But it'll be interesting

817
00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:52,039
to see how because I would assume
he and Garand are going to be a

818
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:58,440
tandem next year, and the Hartford
wolf Pack is. They're not an HL

819
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:00,599
powerhouse to me, I really they
don't look at them as a team that's

820
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,719
challenging to make deep playoff runs,
and so it'll be interesting to see how

821
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,400
they handle starts for those two.
They may send one of them to the

822
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,679
ECHL just to give them maximum starts
and exposure. We sometimes see teams do

823
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,239
that, but I want to see
how they play off each other because they

824
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:27,679
do have very different styles just because
of their size, and so it'll be

825
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,800
interesting to see how their HL team
adapts to that and how they adapt to

826
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,960
it. I would assume the Boycot
is going to have a slightly easier transition

827
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:43,559
just because from a sheer size perspective. When it comes down to those point

828
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:50,800
zero five save percentage points that separate
a playoff team from not. I don't

829
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,000
know if he has it, but
obviously he's able to make more of those

830
00:56:53,079 --> 00:57:00,719
just base saves because of his size, so I think he has a slightly

831
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:08,039
easier baseline for his transition, definitely. And speaking of the ECHL, the

832
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:14,039
next guy we're going to talk about
Isla Lindbaum, and he was at twenty

833
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:15,400
eighteen, second round pick, so
he's been around a while, six two

834
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:19,800
hundred and eighty three pounds. He's
now twenty three, and he just spent

835
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,239
his first year in North America.
He had been and he'd been primarily in

836
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,800
the Hockey El Spenskin and Sweden the
Beast couple. A part of that was

837
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,320
due to some relegation, but he
hasn't had too many SHL games actually,

838
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,480
so it's been primarily second division.
And this season he played one game for

839
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:39,440
the wolf Pack, it did not
go well and he spent the rest of

840
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:45,639
the season with the ECHL Jacksonville Iceman. So that's where olaf Linbaum was.

841
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:52,199
He actually looks like he dominated in
terms of say percentage above expected in that

842
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,239
league, but his goals above expected
were really low that I'm not sure exactly

843
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,039
was that that was due to but
his equivalency. Olaf Limbaum's is also a

844
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:04,679
really low The only one again that
I could find Frederick Narenna. This is

845
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,239
maybe the Frederick Nonna line. Are
we above or below that? As an

846
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,599
NHL backup? So Oleflenbaum, what
your instincts tell you about him? Kat?

847
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,000
I hate to say, because I
never want to talk about a prospect

848
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:17,239
and say I don't like them,
But I was surprised when he got drafted.

849
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,239
I believe his draft year he was
the first goaltender taken in the second

850
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:28,039
round. I believe we talked about
with a different team that particular draft year

851
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:30,679
really powerful in the second, third, fourth rounds, and I was just

852
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,639
super surprised that he was the first
one taken in that second round. And

853
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:38,559
if he wasn't the first, he
was maybe the second by a position or

854
00:58:38,639 --> 00:58:45,320
two. And I just I didn't
love his game. He didn't have quite

855
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,440
enough control when it came to his
overall speed and movement, and didn't really

856
00:58:50,519 --> 00:58:52,840
seem to have his edge work down, didn't seem like he was reading quit

857
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:59,519
as confidently as some of the other
guys who were being drafted. So I

858
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:02,280
was prize that the Rangers took him. He went against their prototypical style.

859
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:07,000
Seemed a little more aggressive and enthusiastic
than they typically like, but they took

860
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,280
him anyway, which once again I
think they like to take those guys that

861
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,000
are different from what they typically like
just to see how it works for them.

862
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,760
And obviously it didn't work spectacularly.
When he made it to the AHL,

863
00:59:21,639 --> 00:59:25,679
I didn't I don't think he's at
the top of their depth chart at

864
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:29,480
the time he got drafted. Was
almost a little bullish on it. I

865
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:31,760
was like, they'll see he's not
going to be the best, and I'm

866
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:37,159
right not to brag, but I'm
right. I think they'll has passed him

867
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:43,599
up in their depth chart pretty substantially
at this point, but there's nothing wrong

868
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:46,480
with giving him a little extra seasoning
in North America. That's a team that

869
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:52,760
has just a really good goaltending development
depth because they have really good coaching,

870
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:59,960
and so we'll see how that goes
for him. As he continues to flourish

871
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,079
in their system, he might end
up topping out as like a tweener,

872
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:07,280
one of those guys who predominantly hangs
out in the HL and gets some of

873
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:13,000
those NHL call ups that you feel
confident he's not going to blow Richard Bachman

874
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:19,639
is like my prototypical, like model
tweener goaltender, and that's what I think

875
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:23,320
he's going to top at us.
But I could be wrong, and I'll

876
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:28,360
never get mad if a goaltender exceeds
my expectations. I just don't think he's

877
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:35,639
I don't think he is near the
top of their development chart at the moment.

878
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:38,079
Yeah, I sure doesn't seem like
it. And you're right. We

879
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:43,800
talked about the twenty eighteen draft before
the two second rounders, the first two

880
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,199
taken. You're right, Limbaum was
first, and then Olivier Rodrigue was second,

881
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:52,079
and then we talked about some other
ones. N in the third,

882
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,079
Scarrick in the third, and then
the Ducks taking the sixth goalie off the

883
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:02,199
board Lucas Dostil was a home run
in my opinion, and then for Prosbitov

884
01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:07,639
and Schmid went all after that.
In the fourth and fifth round, all

885
01:01:07,679 --> 01:01:10,719
of those guys were there, and
Lynde Baumb and Rodary were the first you've

886
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:19,599
taken. That's it's always hilarious to
look back, But yes, thank you

887
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,079
so much for giving us your instincts
on the New York Rangers goalies will be

888
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:43,679
back right after this. Dig the
Dynasty, Dig your Rangers. Addition,

889
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,599
the Rangers have finally got where everybody
else gets eventually, because they've called up

890
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:52,360
so many prospects that the system is
ranked thirty first. That's said, there

891
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:57,159
are a couple of really cool prospects
we were about to talk about in this

892
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:01,119
segment, and it starts with your
no brainer. Who is it? Yeah,

893
01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:04,440
the no brainer is going to be
the guy they just drafted. Gay

894
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:07,199
Proro twenty twenty three first round pick, went a little later than I thought,

895
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,519
but kind of in that first round
range, twenty third overall. He

896
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:16,800
was part of that historic USNTDP line
with Will Smith, Ryan Leonard seventy two

897
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:22,039
goals, one hundred and five assists
and eighty six combined games at the USNTDB

898
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,760
in their USHL and NCAA games there
and that trio. All of them are

899
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,800
headed to Boston College for their freshman
season, which is going to be both

900
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,679
fun and a little bit annoying because
if they continue to play together, we're

901
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,239
still going to struggle to know how
they would do a part. But I

902
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,239
think that they will actually get split
up, and I think that the coaching

903
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,920
staff, there is going to work
with each one of them on their things

904
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,840
that they need to work on.
I think for Ryan Leonard that's fewer things.

905
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:52,519
For Will Smith, that's a lot
of things defensively, and similarly for

906
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:58,000
gay pro who it's definitely not his
strong suit. And actually, when you

907
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:02,559
look at Mitch Brown's tracking data,
gay Proo was like one of the worst

908
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,480
forwards in the sample set that he
had for the US. For the USHL,

909
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:14,719
he was almost the standard deviation over
standard deviation below in his coursie against,

910
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:19,480
meaning that he was from that massive
bottom tier there. I know that's

911
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,320
not why you have gay pro out
there, but if he's going to be

912
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,000
a defensive liability, it's going to
be a little bit tougher for him to

913
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:29,039
break in if you look at the
other things for pro and Mets just data

914
01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:34,320
one hundred percent. For offense,
his expected primary assists and expected goals were

915
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,440
just like off the charts, ridiculously
high, top two to five percent of

916
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:43,159
the league. He also had some
pretty good other things like his some of

917
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:47,239
his transition game underrated, really good
controlled entries and cross lane plays. Some

918
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,840
of his exits were also really good. His game score was one of the

919
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,280
highest that he tracked and his primary
point involvement was really high, and so

920
01:03:55,719 --> 01:04:01,360
that that bottom category that I know
some people like to call the translatability is

921
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,440
very high for a game pro and
overall ninety seven percentiles, So really good

922
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,159
player. Definitely has some things to
work on. And let's hear a little

923
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:14,480
bit more about that from our FHL
scout. Our FHL scout to talk about

924
01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:17,840
Perro today is Sasha. Here's what
he says. Pero is a strong skater

925
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,920
who lacks a little bit of acceleration
and top speed. Uses his edges nicely

926
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:29,239
on offense and defense, using a
series of cutbats and manipulation in his stride.

927
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,000
There could be a strength issue more
than a skating issue, but he

928
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:36,360
thinks that there could be both in
there. Passing handling from the games that

929
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:43,559
Sasha walked watched, Pero is a
past first mentality player who has outstanding handling

930
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:47,320
skills, able to create space for
himself along the boards with some impressive pacing,

931
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,440
delay and hesitation, uses the open
ice well in his passing game.

932
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:56,800
Really fun player to watch in the
offensive zone with this high class passing and

933
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,280
handling combination. Shooting the shot is
above average will be a true weapon once

934
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:06,679
he develops his inside game more and
more over the next few seasons. When

935
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,920
Pero receives the puck in the slot
with time and space, he's extremely accurate

936
01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:17,119
on his wrist shots, specially due
to his quick release upon reception the IQ

937
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,880
that might be the strongest part of
his game a coordinate to Sasha, it's

938
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,159
very rare to see Pero make any
mental errors in terms of game processing.

939
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,000
Elite at scanning the ice, able
to anticipate opponent movements before changing gears on

940
01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:35,320
them with a cut to the outside
or laying the puck in the open ice

941
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:40,239
For his teammates not as active in
the D zone, it can at times

942
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,760
try to shoot the zone for an
offensive opportunity, but he's still smart that

943
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,199
Sasha thinks he'll be able to adapt
to the pros solid for checker needs to

944
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,960
improve in his speed and strength to
really impact the game on the four check,

945
01:05:51,079 --> 01:05:56,960
but that IQ is evident once again
in that arena defense. The smarts

946
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,199
are there. He's able to anticipate
offensive schemes by a and fill in for

947
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,800
teammates who are out of position.
Gets beat along the boards at times,

948
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:11,199
and one on one board battles best
asset. As we said, the offensive

949
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:15,639
and defensive IQ and his puck handling
playmaking ability all elite tools, and the

950
01:06:15,719 --> 01:06:19,760
concern is the strength and the top
speed. Not a strong puck carrier in

951
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:27,320
the neutral zone. The top tier
outcome for Pero a top six line connector

952
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,760
glue guy who can keep pace with
high skilled forwards. Not a big bash

953
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,000
guy due to his lack of physical
play. His median outcome high end middle

954
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:40,679
six floor with a huge offensive potential, smarts and tools that will keep him

955
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,119
on offensive lines, and the stylistic
comparable Jake Gensel. That would be nice

956
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:51,440
gay Pero and the NHL ranked Kings
comparisons. He blew off the charts once

957
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:58,360
again for his NHPNHL equivalency Dylan strom, Seth Jarvis, Nick Patan. But

958
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,800
it's over superstar potential in terms of
how his production last year would have translated,

959
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:08,599
and as we know he was in
a supreme offensive environment. We're going

960
01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:13,559
to compare him to one of the
breakout prospects of last year who was playing

961
01:07:13,639 --> 01:07:17,840
up in Halifax, Jordan Dumay of
the Columbus Blue Jackets. The people have

962
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,960
spoken and they like Perot a whole
lot more than Jordan Dumay. Seventy two

963
01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:26,960
to twenty eight was the vote victor. Is it that easy for you?

964
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:34,519
I think so. I love Jordan
Dumay. He's fantastic and MVP most points,

965
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:38,639
most assists, First Team All Star. He had a ridiculous season,

966
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:44,119
and again in terms of value here
third round pick versus one first round pick,

967
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:45,920
the fact that we're even talking about
Dumay is a relative of the hat

968
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,599
to him. Just a ridiculous one
hundred forty points and sixty four games for

969
01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:56,039
Halifax. That's borderline silly there.
I know the Q can be can have

970
01:07:56,119 --> 01:08:00,280
a little more scoring than the other
leagues, but that's massive. So really

971
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,320
like that. But I think that
the upside with pro is just so high.

972
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,199
You know, if he can eat
hit even you know, seventy eightieth

973
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:10,639
percentile of what he has shown at
the USN T TB, it's going to

974
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,920
be amazing. So I definitely,
like per I thought about this more than

975
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:20,199
maybe you would assume based on the
difference in the draft position. But by

976
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:24,640
the time these guys get closer to
being in the NHL, that's going to

977
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,079
be a distant memory. So I
can't think about that too much, and

978
01:08:28,119 --> 01:08:30,479
their PNHL is similar as mentioned.
I think it's a little bit closer than

979
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,000
that. But Pero with the size, he's not like huge, but five

980
01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:41,520
eleven one seventy is certainly a better
more projectable frame than five nine one sixty

981
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,279
that Jumet de Dumet is, So
you like that. The thing that really

982
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:49,279
concerns me about pro is that the
Rangers system has really not shown to be

983
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:54,560
able to develop talent well, and
the prospects there seemed to develop in spite

984
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,720
of their system and not because of
it, So that really worries me.

985
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,960
And he has a lot of work
to do, but fortunately most of that

986
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:04,880
will be in college and not directly
under the Rangers supervision. But if you

987
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,680
look at the hockey prospecting between these
two, Pero comes in a fifty three

988
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,359
percent dume win from twenty to forty
six percent, so they're actually pretty similar.

989
01:09:14,079 --> 01:09:15,800
And then if you look at just
Pero's comps, most of them are

990
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:23,760
silly, and Pavel Burret is one
who had a similar draft season, and

991
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,680
then there's some other really good ones
too, are like Gary Hurdler and Sam

992
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,760
Gagner, and the Jay fresh card
usually pretty pessimistic about players Jesse forty nine

993
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,279
percent chance of being a star,
ninety three percent chance of being an NHL

994
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:40,199
or. He's the seventh ranked prospect
in this data set. Pretty high praise

995
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:45,560
for gay Pero. It's nice to
be on that launch. It's gonna it's

996
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,079
definitely gonna juice that production. Victor. Next up, we're gonna go to

997
01:09:49,159 --> 01:09:53,479
the need to know prospect. Who
is it? Yeah? Yeah? So

998
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,159
this is Zach Jones, twenty nineteen
third round pick, five ten hundred and

999
01:09:57,159 --> 01:10:01,960
seventy nine pounds. He has primarily
played in the HL for the Hartford wolf

1000
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:10,119
Pack. This past season he had
actually the last two seasons, and he

1001
01:10:10,279 --> 01:10:14,439
had eight goals and twenty three assists
for thirty one points in fifty four games

1002
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,920
for the Hartpack. This Hartford wolf
Pack this past season, which was similar

1003
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,520
to the first. He played sixteen
games with the Rangers, one goal,

1004
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,600
one assist, so not a whole
lot of scoring, and he is known

1005
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,600
as an offensive defenseman. He's slightly
undersized at five ten hundred and seventy nine

1006
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,760
pounds, so that's a bit of
an issue for him, and he is

1007
01:10:33,159 --> 01:10:36,159
going to be twenty three this season, so he's getting a little older.

1008
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:41,279
He should definitely get a look for
the Rangers this season. Unfortunately, they're

1009
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,520
back end is pretty stacked and so
there it's gonna be a little bit hard

1010
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,960
for him to break into to that
blue line there. Obviously, Lyndgun and

1011
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,399
Fox are good there, you got
Truba Miller and then Braden Schneider who basically

1012
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,399
passed him, and then they have
gust Of Son and some other options there.

1013
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:04,199
So it's going to be a little
bit of a challenge for Zack Jones,

1014
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,319
but he does have teyears left on
the entry level and to get to

1015
01:11:08,359 --> 01:11:11,079
know him a little bit better,
we should hear from our FHL scout.

1016
01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:17,560
Right FHL scout Jim is concise in
his analysis of Zack Jones for skating average

1017
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:23,880
to good passing good passer first pass
always seems to be great, and he

1018
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:28,840
moves the puck with conviction. Shooting, he doesn't shoot that often, but

1019
01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:34,079
Jim sees it as an average shot. IQ Hockey IQ's excellent smart player seems

1020
01:11:34,119 --> 01:11:39,960
to always make correct decisions with the
puck. Defense, good in his own

1021
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:43,840
zone, average on the rush on
the rushes, where average to good skating

1022
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:47,279
looks more on the average side than
the good side. Best asset is that

1023
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,880
hockey iq. The first pass is
outstanding. He knows where he's going with

1024
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:56,079
the puck before it comes to him
and reads the ice really well. Biggest

1025
01:11:56,119 --> 01:12:00,720
concern not sure positives amount to more
than third pair NHL. Can be quarterback

1026
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,079
of a power play maybe, but
can't get shot to goal consistently, and

1027
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:11,359
his top tier outcome would be tier
three. Can't see him scoring more than

1028
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,880
thirty points in the NHL. Doesn't
seem to block a lot of shots,

1029
01:12:15,279 --> 01:12:19,840
hit or shoot, So Bash not
so much fiftieth percentile tier role. Yeah,

1030
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:24,359
just a fine player, solid for
what he does, and a stylistic

1031
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:30,479
comparison Ryan ellis light is what Jim's
going with in the NHL ranked King Pole.

1032
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,159
We're gonna put Jones up against Philip
Broberg. Of course, Jones already

1033
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:39,239
in the NHL, so we're not
going to have an equivalency guy here,

1034
01:12:39,399 --> 01:12:44,439
but he's not necessarily coming out with
great outcomes yet. But Mason Black put

1035
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,279
the poll out nonetheless for and of
course Broberg also has some time in the

1036
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:55,520
NHL. And the answer here Broberg
sixty five percent, Zach Jones thirty five

1037
01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:00,279
percent. Victor we've seen these guys
in NHL sweaters, Is this the way

1038
01:13:00,359 --> 01:13:02,920
that you would rank them? Yeah, I don't know about that. I

1039
01:13:03,119 --> 01:13:08,359
understand the love for Broberg. He's
already playing and doing a little bit more

1040
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,840
in the NHL. I understand that, But I also just think that Broberg

1041
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,199
is going to be a middle to
bottom pairing guy without too much offense.

1042
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:19,760
And so, yes, you're getting
a more likely NHL or for sure if

1043
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:25,439
you take Broberg here. But also
is that going to be anywhere exciting or

1044
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,720
is he just going to be taking
up space on your roster. I think

1045
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,039
it's more likely the latter. I
don't think that Broberg is going to be

1046
01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:35,720
the score that some hoped he would
be. He's turning into an effective an

1047
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:41,039
NHL defenseman, which is great for
the Oilers. I think that a lot

1048
01:13:41,119 --> 01:13:44,920
of the fans, we're really hoping
that they would take Zegris in that spot.

1049
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:49,039
But I think if you're getting a
competent NHL defenseman who can play decent

1050
01:13:49,119 --> 01:13:53,560
minutes, you're not too upset about
that in the end. As the organization,

1051
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,600
hindsight's always twenty twenty. But I
think that's what you're hoping for,

1052
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,880
and he's actually been really effective defensively. So you like that for Broberg,

1053
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,520
But I think in terms of like
upside, I think Zach Jones still has

1054
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,960
upside. I know that there's some
struggles in his game, and maybe I

1055
01:14:09,039 --> 01:14:11,520
just really think he needs to go
elsewhere. I think Zach Jones needs to

1056
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,960
get traded and hopefully another team can
give him a shot and he can flourish.

1057
01:14:16,199 --> 01:14:19,680
But I think that's going to be
a struggle in New York because there's

1058
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:24,600
so many just better options ahead of
him, and obviously no one's taking Adam

1059
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,079
Fox's job, but even some of
the secondary offensive minutes are going to be

1060
01:14:28,199 --> 01:14:30,720
hard to come by. So I
would just take Jones for the upside.

1061
01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:35,439
He's close, he could get traded
to a team and just have a decent

1062
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:41,319
season when so I would take that. But I think that if you hold

1063
01:14:41,359 --> 01:14:45,560
Broberg, you're just going to be
holding a guy who, once he runs

1064
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,199
out of your miner's limit, he's
going to be a replacement level guy,

1065
01:14:47,279 --> 01:14:51,640
and that's not super exciting. I
would actually take Jones unless you just really

1066
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:58,399
wanted an hlor and don't mind lower
counting stats. In terms of the hockey

1067
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:03,199
prospecting, Oones graduated the model on
a much higher equivalency twenty percentile, twenty

1068
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:08,319
percent sorry of being a star,
seventy five percent chance of being an NHL

1069
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:12,439
or Brober was much less just a
coin flip to be an nhllar even though

1070
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,439
he already has been, and just
four percent chance of being a star.

1071
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,720
If you look at some of the
other comps for Jones, you have some

1072
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,800
decent guys. The one I think
he looks the most like is Connor Timmins,

1073
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,960
who has found a role with the
Leafs, at least for now in

1074
01:15:28,039 --> 01:15:31,359
cold depth position. So maybe he
could be Connor Timmins, like I think

1075
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,479
that's an appropriate comparison if you're looking
for kind of upside, I think there's

1076
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:40,359
maybe even a little more there.
Zach Jones also has a comp of Andre

1077
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,359
Markoff. I think that's unlikely,
but that would be amazing that happened.

1078
01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:47,119
And the Jay Fresh card, which
is usually a little pessimistic about this guy.

1079
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:49,880
About these guys eight percent chance of
being a star, at thirty nine

1080
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:54,560
percent chance of being an nah llar, and his rank is fiftieth in this

1081
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,319
data set, it's not bad.
It's not bad for a guy who's probably

1082
01:15:58,319 --> 01:16:00,680
available or people aren't too interested and
holding on too and you could probably get

1083
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,359
for cheap. I think a decent
speculative ad or trade for his zact Jones

1084
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:10,119
wouldn't be the worst thing for sure, all right, Victor, Next up,

1085
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,439
we've got to keep your eye on
prospect. Who is it keep your

1086
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,159
eye on? Is Brennan Athman,
New York Rangers, twenty twenty one first

1087
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:21,159
round pick, sixteenth overall, six
foot, one hundred and eighty one pounds.

1088
01:16:21,239 --> 01:16:27,640
He was third in OHL. Sorry, was in his third OHL season

1089
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,960
after missing twenty twenty twenty one due
to COVID when he went over to the

1090
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:34,439
SL in Switzerland, which is not
the top league there. But for his

1091
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:41,600
draft year was not bad production where
he had sixteen points at thirty four games

1092
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,760
as a lower tier professional level as
a young man. That's pretty decent production.

1093
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:48,800
He was traded from Flint in mid
season, where he was the captain,

1094
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,800
to Peterborough where he had a less
prominent role. So twenty nine goals

1095
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:57,199
thirty eight assists in fifty six games
combined with Flint and Peterborough. Twenty five

1096
01:16:57,239 --> 01:17:00,439
points in twenty three games for Peterborough
in the playoffs, so that was great.

1097
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:02,760
He signed with the Rangers, so
he could get a shot at making

1098
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:08,319
the team this season. Otherwise he
will probably be in the HL, I

1099
01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:13,800
would imagine, and he's already twenty
he'll be twenty one in January. Bothman.

1100
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,600
If you look at Mitch Brown's data
set overall, really good ninety six

1101
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,840
percent tile overall. His best is
his offense, but his defense isn't far

1102
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,960
behind. He's actually a really effective
defensive forward. The main lacking points are

1103
01:17:26,039 --> 01:17:30,239
his transition game, where his transitions
success and controlled exits are pretty low,

1104
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,199
but has pretty decent controlled entries and
some of the cross ling players are really

1105
01:17:33,239 --> 01:17:39,359
good. He shoots a ton and
has really dangerous passes to the slot,

1106
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,800
and his expected primary assists are probably
his best asset, so he's a good

1107
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,079
setup man. He also has some
pretty good translatable features like the primary point

1108
01:17:46,119 --> 01:17:50,560
involvement, game score advantages created bringing
the puck to the middle. Those all

1109
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:55,760
look really good for Brennan Affman,
and this was tracked mainly in the Peterborough

1110
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,000
data set, where he was a
little bit less exciting than in the Flint

1111
01:17:59,079 --> 01:18:01,319
data set. Important to note,
Okay, let's hear a little bit from

1112
01:18:01,359 --> 01:18:09,920
our FHL scout about Brendan Othman absolutely
Joshua talking about Atman the skating his biggest

1113
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:14,399
weakness what will hold him back?
Probably he has a very shallow skating stride,

1114
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,880
which, while he isn't the slowest, lacks separation speed even at the

1115
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,680
OHL level. He can overcome it. Now will he be able to in

1116
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:27,520
the NHL? Passing and handling a
snappy, quick, hard pass that Aman

1117
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,800
can get off fairly accurately. Sometimes
has the habit of overshooting his target,

1118
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:36,319
but rarely makes support decision with his
passes to cause a dangerous turnover. Handling

1119
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:41,840
doesn't flash yere great, but it's
effective and he won't frequently beat defenders with

1120
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:46,000
his stick handling, shooting strong and
accurate wealth of different shots at his disposal.

1121
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:50,359
He's also good at finding those soft
areas of the ice and lapses in

1122
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,960
defensive coverage to put himself in the
best position to get the shot off.

1123
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,760
IQ good anticipation and anticipation from Affman
with the puck able to find some interesting

1124
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,279
passing lanes and deceived defenders off.
Puck Able to make up for his lackluster

1125
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:13,079
skating by finding the light spots and
lanes to be most effectives for checking is

1126
01:19:13,159 --> 01:19:15,520
as good as his speed would allow. Active and physical, but possible for

1127
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:20,319
opponents to outspeed him and then there's
nothing he can do defense. Similar to

1128
01:19:20,359 --> 01:19:26,680
the for checking predicated on his physicality
limited by his speed, the rush defending

1129
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:32,479
needs some work, so the best
asset shot IQ and underrated passing. Those

1130
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:38,239
make up for his shortcomings. At
this level, he's effective and finding the

1131
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,920
best thing to do with the puck
in any given circumstance. Can physically dominate

1132
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,840
players off the puck and the biggest
concern once again, we set it again.

1133
01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:50,039
It's the skating renders rather ineffective on
fast breaks going the other way,

1134
01:19:50,279 --> 01:19:55,199
and the game just gets faster from
here. Top tier outcome. If the

1135
01:19:55,279 --> 01:19:58,800
skating improves, he has the skill
and talent to become an effective two hundred

1136
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,439
foot top six winger can be trusted
in his own zone, could be a

1137
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,600
dual passer shooter threat. Best case
scenario, he tops out at thirty fifty

1138
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:12,000
eighty if skating and skill doesn't translate
the median outcome for him. Bottom six

1139
01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:15,640
winger. They can kill penalties,
put the physical pressure on opponents, but

1140
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,119
will struggle in the offensive zone.
Twenty five point type guy and the stylistic

1141
01:20:19,159 --> 01:20:24,319
comparable maybe Tyler Toffoley and his shot
skill in IQ with a bit of Zach

1142
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:30,119
Kyman with his physicality and tenacity.
And in the NHL Rank King comparison,

1143
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,159
he has gone down a little bit
since last year. He's a little bit

1144
01:20:34,199 --> 01:20:40,560
below second line potential now in terms
of equivalency, but his overall similarity scores

1145
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:45,439
still some very good names Bohorvat,
Anthony Bovillier and Jordan's Stall. And for

1146
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:50,039
this comparison we take one of our
recent I guess we talked about his brother

1147
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:54,600
in a recent episode, but we
like talking about Chazz Lucius here, Brandon

1148
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,800
Affman, Chaz Lucius in the face
off here and Offman buy a nose fifty

1149
01:21:00,039 --> 01:21:03,159
one to forty nine percent over Chazz
Lucius Victor. Is that how you see

1150
01:21:03,239 --> 01:21:10,359
him? No, I don't think
so. I think Chazz had a really

1151
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:15,239
difficult But Chazz did have a really
difficult year, so I think maybe people

1152
01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:18,479
are a little bit down on him. But he had some really great numbers

1153
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:24,039
at the USNTDP and had a really
decent transition to the University of Minnesota after

1154
01:21:24,119 --> 01:21:26,600
that, and then this past year
was just all over the place. He

1155
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,079
started the h L and then that
was difficult, or he started got loaned

1156
01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:33,760
to the WHL. He was at
the World Juniors, then he had an

1157
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,840
injury, so it was just it
was a lost year for Chazz unfortunately.

1158
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:44,199
But I still think he has way
more offensive upside than Authman. As we

1159
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,439
heard the skating, and I think
Aufman is just more of a He's just

1160
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:53,399
more of a physical grinder type.
I think he has pretty decent hand skills,

1161
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,439
but overall, I'm worry that he's
just going to settle into more of

1162
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,560
a bit of a third line checking
role, and he likes that that physicality.

1163
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,800
He reminds me of was a more
skilled Nick Ritchie who was supposed to

1164
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,600
be this big power forward with lots
of skill, and he ended up just

1165
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,439
being, you know, like a
fourth liner. So I'm a little worried

1166
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,079
about that with Ausman. I think
he's better than that, but I don't

1167
01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:18,359
think he's better than Chazz. And
I think for fantasy, you're gonna want

1168
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:23,199
the guy who's gonna command power play
time. You're gonna want the guy who

1169
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,960
you know has a little bit more
offensive upside. And I think this is

1170
01:22:28,039 --> 01:22:31,199
actually a time to get Jazz Lucius
at value because I think that people are

1171
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:34,279
a little down on him after his
weird year. I don't think that was

1172
01:22:34,399 --> 01:22:39,880
necessarily his fault. He had some
injuries, he had some some it was

1173
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,720
difficult being moved all around. I
like Jazz here. I'm not super excited

1174
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,079
with Authman, even though I think
he's decent, like he should play NHL

1175
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:50,920
games and maybe there's more offense there, maybe he can make it into the

1176
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:56,199
top six. But I think that's
just a little bit icy. In terms

1177
01:22:56,239 --> 01:23:00,800
of the hockey prospecting, Authman looks
really poor. He started at four percent

1178
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,479
chance of being a star. He
lost that COVID year. There wasn't an

1179
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:08,079
equivalency for that league in Switzerland,
so Byron has that as just blank for

1180
01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:12,079
his D plus one year and then
or for his D year sorry, and

1181
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:15,520
then he kind of has trended down
just one percent chance of being a star

1182
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,199
now thirty two percent chance of being
an NHL Chazz also has trended down,

1183
01:23:19,239 --> 01:23:21,439
but I think again part of that
was this year being weird. But he

1184
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:26,079
went from twenty seven to twelve to
five. Anyways, I still like Lucius

1185
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:29,520
there. But if you look at
some of Authman's other comps, they're pretty

1186
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,119
boring guys. Vitally pro Horcof is
one of his best comps who's a bust

1187
01:23:33,199 --> 01:23:39,520
pretty much. They're all bust or
replacement level for guys that have been Authman's

1188
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:44,199
type. Milan Mahalak is maybe one
of the better ones who was pretty average

1189
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,640
at best. So anyways, the
Top Down Hockey model has authented just three

1190
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:53,119
percent chance of being a star twenty
one percent chance of being an nhlor So's

1191
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,960
that's pretty pessimistic, and I'm pretty
skeptical about his upside. I think if

1192
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,680
you're down with the bash, that's
great, but I wouldn't be expecting super

1193
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,800
high end production from Authman, Frankly
and Jesse. There are more guys we

1194
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,159
could talk about, but there's no
time here. If you're a Patreon you

1195
01:24:08,199 --> 01:24:11,680
can listen to the top ten prospect
recaps on Patreon. If you're actually doing

1196
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:16,159
some scouting, you can shoot me
a DM on x Discord or email us

1197
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,600
Autman. No longer the hotness.
We'll come right back close up the show.

1198
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,239
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HQ has lots of fantasy content.
There's a ton of articles coming out right

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now on fantasy hockey and all the
other fantasy sports. There are other podcasts

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covering baseball and fantasy football. We
think our content curator Nate Duffett, as

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well as our new guy behind the
scenes, Kevin, who have been helping

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out a lot with show prep.
There's been a number of people who've sort

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of been added lately to really help
us out in running a lot of things,

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because boy, there's a lot of
plates spinning here, folks. We're

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also brought to you by Dabber Hockey
and Dabber Prospects, where Victor is an

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editor follow his work there, as
well as the other podcast, Daber Prospects

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Report with Peter Harley, where he
loves to talk about some hockey prospects,

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some great stuff. I saw Megan
Angley, one of my favorite guests from

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this year, recently made an appearance
herself, and one of the things I'll

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mentioned just in passing in case you're
interested in getting in another Dynasty league by

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the end of the year. My
good friend Nathan aka Dynasty one Stop on

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X is a established Dynasty Fantasy commissioner
who does a whole ton of baseball leagues

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that he runs, and he's going
to be starting a hockey league this year,

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So if you're interested in that,
you can DM him Dynasty one Stop

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or you can hit him up in
our discord for him. He's also going

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to show up there and you can
DM him on that if you're interested in

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being a part. Things are still
coming together, but maybe one last chance

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to get into a Dynasty league with
a reputable manager who is not going to

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rip you off. You can listen
to my other show, Dynasty Sports Life,

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I talk for different Dynasty Sports sometimes
at the same time. This week's

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episode was with a friend of mine, Casey Bubba who does a bunch of

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writing on fantasy baseball, and we
look back on the twenty twenty three Dynasty

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Baseball season and what we can learn
from it. Follow us on x at

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fan Hockey Life is Me at Victor
Newno. Twelve is Victor Rate and review

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the podcast. Give us five stars, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever else

1234
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you get your podcasts. We are
down to just a couple more episodes.

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I believe three more teams to go. I hope you've enjoyed listening to this

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New York Rangers preview and until next
time, keep living that fantasy hockey light.