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Hello, everyone, Welcome to That's
Not Grindcore. This is your weekly grindcore,

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heavy metal, rock music pop music
podcast. We are here with you

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every week to let you know everything
that's going on in those realms. Can

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you tell we've got a bit of
a theme this week. My name is

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Parin Hayish sat across from me.
We've got the return of Elliot Paisley over

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there. We've also got Sam dign
On here once again. How are we

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all doing? You know, went
to the big Grindcores show like that.

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That's just what's kind of been on
my mind for the past like near seven

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days, just thinking about, like
God, that was a time enough sonic

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abuse in a night to last a
lifetime. Literally one of the most like

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ridiculously disgusting lineups I think you're ever
gonna see and just just sticks with you

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in how like filth it was.
Well, the whole time since then,

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I've just thought why I should be
able to do that every weekend? Where

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can I move or I can have
a grind care shower that constantly because I

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just feel like a better person afterwards. Yeah, it was a very busy

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week actually for kind of heavy tours
up and down the country. I know.

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There was the Not to Loose tour
with Death Heaven that I don't thin

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any of us managed to make it
too, but if you did, I'm

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sure it looked like a bloody hard
time. I saw a video of George

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coming out with Not Loose and just
fucking wretching all over the place, and

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that's an amazing guess spot. There
was the Cattle Decapitation tour that I know

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some of you will have got to
before we talk about that. I had

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a pummeling sort of forty eight hours
or so because the night before the show

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we were all at I went along
to the Enslaved Svalbard Wayfarer touring bill,

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which I mentioned when it was announced
as one of the tours I was more

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excited for because obviously it's I guess
a black metal package, but as like

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a ven diagram of things, it
was brilliantly eclectic in the like Spalbard and

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Wayfairer in particular, I cannot imagine
a scenario where I will have seen both

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of those bands in the same night, apart from both supporting a kind of

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legendary band like Enslaved and Top to
Bottom. That was just such an appealing

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night for me, Wayfairer really were
like the you know, if I would

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go to that show anyway, but
after American Gothic, I needed to see

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Wayfairer again. They are, you
know, the most handsome band in black

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metal suited and booted hats on set
was like, obviously it's an opening set,

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so it was about half an hour
long. It was basically four songs,

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I think, all from American Gothic, which for me, you know,

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meant I got to see like some
of my favorite riffs from last year,

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you know, to end to my
house, justified tracks like that,

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and I guess it just cements that
everyone's seems to be like, you know,

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some of the other bands were commenting
like, oh yeah, we're so

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stoked to be out with Wayfairer.
That new album is fucking amazing. It

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just seems to have cemented them as
kind of a band of the moment that

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everybody is really excited about and that's
brilliant. And I was because of their

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you know, supporting band. Isaac
the drummer was using a drum kit,

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not the one at the back,
kind of one further front. I was

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sort of stood in a position near
the front where I could literally see his

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foot on the double bass pedal just
going and I was just watching that man

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absolutely bummele that thing. That was
brilliance Valbard much more. You know,

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obviously I've seen Svalbard hundreds of times. I do exaggerate but fair bit,

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and I like that they still open
with disparity after like how many of you

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know records they put out. It. There's something very familiar about seeing Svalbard

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and despite what they might be touring, just coming out to do Do Do

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Do, Do Do Do, and
it just always puts me in a good

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mood. The other you know,
obviously the newer songs. I haven't returned

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to the newest album as much as
the prior ones, but hearing some of

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those songs live for the first time
was a, you know, a reminder

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of their quality in particular, really
really strong. And then some of those

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tracks from the last album, like
click Bait with the kind of big fuck

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off like it seems to be very
firm classics in their set in terms of

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how people respond to him and enslaved
I mean the third time seeing them in

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six months for me, but like
the first time I'd seen them doing new

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material I was gonna say, it
must have been a very different sett list.

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Yeah, in about like, I
think the last time I saw them

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touring a current album was about five
years ago, and obviously in that time

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they've put out like, you know, the Outguard album from twenty twenty,

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as well as Hehindal from last year. Outguard is one of my favorites of

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kind of their recent run. Heindal
is like one of their kind of more

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out their records. I think like
it's got some really strange, avant gardee

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type stuff on it, and I
think that's really cool for a band like

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Enslave still at this stage, to
be kind of pushing that kind of stuff,

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And obviously it was heavy on that
material. It was one of those

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sets where like if I was to
draft up like my top twenty or thirty

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en Slave songs, only a handful
of those really were in the zetlist,

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and some of those are the ones
from Below the Lights that they were playing

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a Damnation where they you know,
they STI were still doing the the Dead

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Stare with that amazing kind of killing
jokey type part at the end and just

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reminded of how hard that goes again
and they were still doing a havenless of

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course, which is sam the song
with the big arms in the air kind

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of Norse chant. Everybody doing that
lovely time, but particularly seeing again those

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Hindel songs. There's a song call
Congelia, which is like seven or eight

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minutes long, and it's pretty much
entirely built on a blast beat, and

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towards the end of that song,
I was kind of like forgetting my whereabouts,

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you know, just sort of like
lost in something or other. The

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title track of that song of that
album. I don't know what fucking tuning

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they dropped to whatever, because it
just dropped to like the heaviest level.

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It's like the nastiest like eight string
or something guitar tone is that they weren't

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using eight strings. And it's got
this like long fucking light throat singing drone

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type section in the middle, just
like really weird and really cool. And

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it was a few years ago they
lost their their drummer and their keyboardist who

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did the clean singing, and they
ended up replacing with a clean singing drummer,

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and that guy behind the kit has
got some fucking pipes. Like some

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of those choruses in the last couple
albums, are really really strong and like

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they're funny as well, because I
don't think that they don't quite get put

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as often in that sort of like
Opeth Paradise Lost kind of dry banter category.

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But they're not far off it,
you know, like they are like

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they you watch them and they remind
you how funny they are, and they

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were kind of doing these are like
absurdist band introductions where they were like,

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you know, on the guitar,
the leader of the suffragette movement and the

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inventor of red bricks and just like
same bullshit like that. Do you know

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about Ivar's family guy tattoo? I
mean I've heard about this, Like the

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guitar is from Enslaved. Yeah,
he has a tattoo of himself as Peter

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Griffin because the guy told that he
looks like him. And that's just I

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guess that's very endearing with the kind
of characters Enslaved are. That was a

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really really nice night and then,
as said, the following night for me,

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it was a different night for you
guys, but we all saw the

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same package. The the the second
annual in a row tradition that dates back

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sometime now, but they seem to
be kind of ramping it up Napalm Death.

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You may be aware that they for
a long time now was in literally

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going back to you know, their
kind of heyday, have at varying times

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put together a sort of touring package
which they have called the Campaign for Musical

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Destruction. I believe the first one
is in like nineteen ninety one or something

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like that, and you can imagine
the kind of bands they had on them

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with that bill. They have brought
them back from time to time. One

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of the first times, I think
maybe the first time I ever saw Power

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Trip was on a Napalm Death Campaign
for Musical Destruction where they were like the

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second band on the tiny venue Bloody
halcyon days there. There was one in

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twenty twenty, just before COVID hit
where they had like Misery Index and I

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Hate God with them. I went
to one of these last year this time

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last year when it was the one
We've dropped dead out with them, which

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was fucking great. And they also
had this I think Russian band called Siberian

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Meat Grinder with them, who are
all bare themed and a squealer grind,

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which is maybe not as cool now
as it was one year ago. But

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when they came back, you know, one year later with like that one

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last year again, it was really
really cool seeing drop Dead in particular,

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was like, oh yeah, sweet, that's the kind of band I maybe

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wouldn't have seen if nap hadn't brought
them out. But when they announced the

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following year's addition was Napalm Death picked
Destroy a Primitive Man and Worm. You've

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heard us talk about that before,
and I guess it just sort of cemented

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that these touring packages if they again, I don't know, you guys.

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Liverpool was the last night at the
tour, and Barney said like, yeah,

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we kind of want to do this
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He said about it doing it being
an annual feing. Yeah, if they

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make that a thing, and if
they continue to bring out nights of this

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capacity, what a treat we maybe
have on our hands for the foreseeable.

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I mean, they've set if it's
gonna be an annual thing now, they

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have set the bar about as high
as you can get. I mean,

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like, I've you know, seen
these the tours they're doing, and I

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considered going to some of them for
get around to it, but I mean

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this one when they announced it even
people who aren't like diehard Grendel fans.

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I mean, like they having to
just book three of my fans. I

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you know, I quite like a
little bit grind call, but they haven't

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book three of my favorite grind core
bands on this package. So I was

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like, well, yeah, of
course I've got to go the thing I

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like about when particularly Obviously Primitive Man
are an outlier, and that's something they

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often do again that the one I
Hate God they often book kind of like

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a slower band in the middle of
it up. But the Napalm, Death

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Pit, Pizzroy and Wormrot is like
three generations of grindcore, which is the

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really cool thing about it. And
you could make the convincing argument that each

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one of those bands is the best
grindcore band of that particular you know generation.

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So seeing those three together in that
like tour through the ages of like

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thirty seconds songs is fucking amazing.
Oh yeah, absolutely. But if they

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do do this every year, they're
almost going to have to change it to

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some extent because I don't know if
you could put together a better grindcore bill

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than this, because all the bands
that are active, I really think these

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are the three best ones like maybe
you cold put full of Hell in for

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worm and Roll like nails and full
of Hell like would be the one you'd

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want to see kind of subdi in, wouldn't, isn't it? Yeah,

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but that's kind of it. Like
grind cale might be my favorite genen of

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extreme music, but it's like brutal
truth aants together anymore discordants access on a

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band. I think Gridlink are already
back in hiatus. So it's like when

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this was announced, the race at
which I passed with my money, it

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was like a kind of desperate drug
deal. It was just like fumbling with

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my wallet, trying to get the
car, like the police play police with

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police and just it could have been
my birthday. It was like the whole

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night was just it was it was
catered to me. Yeah, I think

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it's fair to say that, you
know, maybe not every single campaign Musical

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Destruction will be as sort of like
must see as this one. I imagine

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they're always going to be worth attending. I mean, for a start,

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you're always going to see Neapar and
Death and that's guaranteed the amazing headliner.

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But you know, we'll just see
what kind of you know, what variants

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of stuff they can bring because it's
just opportunity for cool stuff. This particular

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one was very very special. It
opened up with worm Rock who. I'll

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be honest, I spent ninety percent
of their set with my eyes just glued

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onto the drummer because honestly, I
couldn't believe it, Like dude, like,

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it's the most I've ever been capped. When you were talking about,

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you know, glued to a Wayfarer's
drummer, I was like waity till I

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was talking about worm Ware Dramma who. I was like like him being set

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in stage and the evity being either
side and being a bit more stack him

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just kind of going. And the
function in London was their drum to character

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constantly like every song come and fix
a bit of the drum playing so hard

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and you can see this symbol wabbling
more and warning, but that's going to

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cap it off and hit someone if
he doesn't like calm down soon. Absolutely

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insane set from one I like,
I come with the last time I've been

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in a venue at six thirty and
it's been full completely like London, I

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coudn't quite work out From the first
Electric Electric Brickston Oh I've not been to

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that one, right, maybe not
quite as big as the form. I

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think it's like one thousand and five
hundred and six in capacity, Like it

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was so full for worm Rock when
they came on at half six, and

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I was like, not many things
can get people down to a venue in

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London at six thirty these days,
and everyone seems to be talking about the

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drummer. When they went off,
I heard about a dozen people talking in

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the individual groups about the drum and
two seeing them last year. He's had

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quite the transformation in that time because
at that Manchester gig he was this kind

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of nervous guy in a beanie and
glasses. He looked more like a drum

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tech than he did a rock star. But now he's like he kind of

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like a grind called Dave Groll,
like Dave Roll, but of extreme,

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like yeah, like I punk and
all that going on, Yeah, kind

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of rock star energy. And I
mean, like you say, it was

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kind of absurd listening. I was
seeing something like that and then at end

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you look at your watch like it's
six thirty five and I've just heard the

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song Seizures, which might be the
biggest riff of the night, and like,

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when this bill was announced, we
were kind of saying, who are

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you know if you have Napalm Death
and Pig Destroyer as the top two grind

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call bands. Ever, maybe who
are the third place? As time goes

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by, I start to think it
might be warm Rock, because that's setless

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they put together. They didn't play
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two perfect grindcore records, and yet
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the set. I wouldn't have asked
for anything to be swapped out because at

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this point it's all killer. Yeah. The thing I like about see sort

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of grind core sets in general is
obviously you can know the records very very

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well, but often it just becomes
a just like fucking just a battering ram

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of just like they are moving through
songs so quickly that your brain is trying

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to catch up with like ohit,
yeah, that there's a riff I recognize,

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you know, like that one,
and then it would just be like

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everything just flying past your face in
such a flurry. And so it is

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really great when like the sort of
like we're talking, yeah, the sort

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of the hits in the bunch kind
of I mean again, earlier on that

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was a bit for me, and
we're just kind of like whipped me back

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into it after I say this complete
well wind of rifts and and then you

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get that hook coming in. And
I was like earlier on doing Fall into

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Disuse from the previous album, of
those bigger type songs, it's like those

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moments hitting it's like you sort of
you you reset yourself and then just get

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yeah, fucking abused by a whole
lot of other things. And again,

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it was the last night of the
tour in Liverpool and the guy they sort

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of like went in for a group
hug and stuff, So it just had

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a very sort of nice vibe going
on for a Primitive Man. As said

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the slow band in the bunch used
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You could say that Primitive Man are
the heaviest band of the world, Like

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you could make that, you could
like that watching them live is just a

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fucking ordeal, Like it's not for
me, unbelievably heavy. I just I

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Jerry fought. From one point,
They've been playing for half an hour and

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I looked in it had been ten
minutes and I was like, oh no,

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it's gonna be one of these I
can clearly can. I can kind

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of get why people might like what
Primitive Man do because it is monstrously heavy,

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but just like I don't know,
I was after worm Rot, I

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was so in the mood for just
like go fast like crazy. Yeah,

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man was a bit of a roadblock
that that voice coming out of that man

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though, Like it's it's like how
much chest space do you have to have

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to have that sort of just swallowing
the mic. Yeah, to have that

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raw come out of you, that
loud and thick and heavy, one of

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the most insane, effortlessly terrifying voices
I've maybe ever heard. Because I'm kind

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of with you, Sam, I
like Primitive amount on record, but for

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me and that live capacity, I
can find it a bit or deal is

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the right word. It can be
a bit draining, particularly between and Big

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Destroyer. I think that's my point
though, Yeah, albums are like WHOA.

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Particularly I had to spend like ten
to fifteen minutes just watching that guy

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because it's like if you dropped a
penny down his mouth. You're just like

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there's this bottomless pit that he's fellow
and you watch it and it's not like

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he's wretching. He's not even exerting
himself for that much, and it's the

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scariest voice you've ever heard. So
I think, like you say, that

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kind of super heavy sludge with a
gotta vocal, it can be a bit

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tedious in that environment, but I
think just having something like that, at

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least for me, I found that
pretty hypnotic. Yeah, and they are

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just so just suffocatingly, bleakly,
unrelentingly heavy that you kind of just have

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to watch it and be like,
yeah, fair enough. Pig Destroyer were

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fucking bananas. Just again, this
was not my I had to wait quite

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a long time see picture. I
think a lot of people in the UK

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maybe did. My first time was
at a Damnation, just you know,

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the Damnation before last when they were
doing Prouder in the Yard, and that

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was fucking incredible, but god damn
a second helping with a more diverse setlist,

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closer up to you know, the
stage as I was this time like

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one of those sets where like it
felt violent, Like I looked to the

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pit to the fucking right of me
and it looked like people were dying.

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I mean, someone got knocked out
or badly injured. In London, they

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had to briefly stop like some sort
of injury. But yeah, I didn't

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expect Pictures Way to be such like
fucking riot on yeah, and like like

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I was expected a lot of like
chaos and energy, but they were like

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fun almost on stage and some of
the energy as well, Like obviously we'll

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get onto some of the more things. But the guy they've got doing the

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samples and electronics of that now,
he was fucking going absolutely bananas on stage,

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and I was like, fucking,
this guy's got it. I think

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again, we were talking about the
reason why he's been brought in in a

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little bit when we actually get in
to the news, but I think he

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was like a long time roadie before
who filled in that, so he probably

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knows the set, he's seen it, you know. Yeah, one of

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those kinds of situations where he's coming
in the times. And he was like,

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I think that what you're talking about
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a crossover thrash energy like you could
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except the music it's like more scary
violent yeah, and live, I think

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for a band that don't really have
any gimmicks, they're really one of a

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kind live act, Like there's such
a band of misfits. You kind of

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look them and go, how can
how are you all friends? Because Scott

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Hall is like, looks like some
kind of truck selfie X Marine, and

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then Adam Jarvis on the drums is
like a viking. Ji Hayes is this

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weird like nerd with a high pitched
voice who writes the most macabre poetry you've

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ever heard. And the bass player
and maybe he lot this last time.

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I was like, he looks like
you'd be in Heaven's basement. He's like

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proper out the bandana and the gold
yeah. Yeah, And it gives them

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this kind of like backward like ragtag
backwards vibe. They probably like band of

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misfits kind of just coming together because
they want to make noise, and I

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think that kind of that makes me
more endearing, even though again though I

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mean they're playing is like disgusting,
Yeah, and they were just they were

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scary tight against like speaking of drummers, watching Adam the fucking scary signed like

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is comparing this to Napalm Death afterwards. Napalm Death had more of that sort

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of like erratic carpet bombing type quality, whereas this is like tight punches,

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but like fucking JoJo's Bizarre Adventure speed
just absolute like insane and with you know,

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the setlist of this, I was
curious about what they they be doing,

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and they they kind of they do
this thing where they've sort of like

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arranged most of their set into sort
of like little sweets from albums. So

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they open with like a terrifier suite
with like six or seven songs, and

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I was, you know, obviously
that's probably the second most like there are

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people like there where that's their one. I probably would have that as my

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favorite Pink Detroyer album, right,
yeah, fair enough, Yeah, And

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I was I was with one of
my mates who like is the same and

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like them opening with that sort of
sweeter songs was really opening with grave danswer

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that is a fucker I And then
again you just get in like absolutely annihilated

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by like a just a hurricane blast
of these type songs. I got.

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Really it wasn't in like order,
So I got really excited when Pretty and

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Casts hit, which is the first
proper track on the album, and that

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like again you get those riffs which
just hit you and you go, oh

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shit, And that was just like
so exciting and like despite how different their

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albums have sounded over the years,
like a light speed tour through them,

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going from Terrifier to Phantom Limb to
book Burner, just again just wildly extreme

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and violent. When that Pretty and
Casts came in, which is maybe my

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favorite set of lyrics and any Pig
Destroyer song and I was surrounded by his

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people and you just had that like
she'll only let me kiss her where she

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saw and you're like, think of
what we're saying people, But it's just

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like that. That's one of the
great things about them is they can make

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really twisted, uncomfortable things still feel
that way, but also loads of fun.

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Like when the guy went down in
the pit and I thought, how

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they're going to kind of get the
memento back up again. Suddenly you just

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hear Jennifer wrestled her the ground and
people are singing along. But like it

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is like the ext to see a
gold that end part of Jennifer whateveryone is

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like no, no, this is
yeah. Yeah. There was something like

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newly exciting about that because obviously that's
how the Prowler set started off, and

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that's what it's really cool about.
Kind of like a third of the way

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into the set, you arrive at
that Jennifer intro and again things like the

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little Phone Call in piss Angel and
stuff like that, and even like again

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I Headcage, which was I guess
their most divisive album because some of the

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grind idiots thought it was like a
new metal album. They only played they

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played one song off it, and
it was the Torture Fields, which is

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a bit of a wild pick.
I'd really love to see like Army of

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Cops and some of these songs that
are just fucking massive, and like some

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of those bigger tracks, they didn't
do like from the book Burner tracks.

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They didn't do like the Diplomat,
which is like the just hardest riff but

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like just properly throwing you around.
And I don't I don't think they did

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this for you. But because I
look at the setlist, they ended on

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like the Prowler stuff, right yeah, But in Liverpool they ended on like

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the Piss Angel into junk Yard god
bit and then Scott just sort of looked

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around the other guy and like very
frantically gesturing and they're like, Okay,

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we're gonna do one more and they
just impromptu did Girl and this layer jacket,

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which was fucking wow. I think
we got some more Prowler songs in

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the middle of it, because yes, he's such a weird guy. He

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suddenly goes he looks at the drummer
and Scott and then goes, no,

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no, fuck that script. But
he's trying to yeah, like he was

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reading scop. He just goes,
they're talking about giving you some extra songs,

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and shit, okay, let's see. It was like, what weird

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like character He's taken on for one
song and then into like the most macarb

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disturbed lyrics you've ever heard in your
life. Yeah, and just I know

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there is that fun dive about them, but I just found them so violent

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and so oppressive. And again the
crowd so you know, like lively and

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and hectic that it just it had
that air of kind of like looking around

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like, God, what the fuck
is going on? And uh, what

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what an amazing, amazing a treat
sy and again, please don't wait like

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seven years to come back from the
UK this time. And then there were

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still the fucking headlines Ago, which
was an apalm death. Who I guess

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are a lot more you know,
common a sight around these parts. I

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think we're very lucky for that to
be the case. I know that there

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are people, maybe in other parts
of the world where when Napalm Death come

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into town is like their big event
that they have kind of waited a long

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time for. We have one of
the all time great heavy music you know,

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iconic bands on our doorstep all the
time, and that's fucking great.

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I mean, they're the only one
I've seen of the on this package before,

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so I was gonna like, yeah, come, I'm in comfortable territor

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of nahor yeah. And so I
guess there is a bit less to say

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about them, in particular that it
hasn't been said before because they are just

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so often around in the UK.
But Napalm fucking Death brilliant, always brilliant.

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Yeah, just one of the greatest
batters, like so much fun towards

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like Barney is just one of the
greatest front men. It's it's so endearing.

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But they're so vital and fun and
violent and cutting, real punk as

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fuck band that when the sort of
stuff he's talking about between sets, what

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he's dedicating songs to doing his speech
about, like how this song used being

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about opposing conservative govern now it's an
anthrom for trans riots and women's riots and

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LGBT riots and all that, and
I was like, fucking yes, Napalm

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Death, like keep fucking doing what
you're doing, and then just playing for

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a set that where they just like
again with the newer stuff they've got,

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there, so much different avenues they
can go down, while she's always just

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being disgustingly heavy. Yeah, I
mean I can compare this to for example,

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like I went to the previous you
know, one of these tours this

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time last year, and a very
different sort of run of songs and selection

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of songs they're they're they're picking from
me and from a slave into Abliteration opening

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fucking rad That was nice. Yeah, the silence is Deafening is always like

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the Napalm Deaf set opener in my
head, but like this was a rad

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one to throw in there as well. My sort of like you know,

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I guess my my personal sort of
favorite peak run of Napalm records is sort

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of like smear campaign through to kind
of Apex Predator that sort of like ten

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year span like Utilitarian and stuff like
that, and it was basically like nothing

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off those records. And it's weird
because there are songs that I've for the

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amount of times that I've seen Napalm
Death during those years, I see as

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staples like I don't think I've ever
seen an Apalm Death show before where they've

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not played Smash a single digit and
stuff like that just sort of absent.

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But now it's like throws a joy
in the jaws defeats them brown for quite

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a long time now, so now
they're doing like throws of joy b sides

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from like extra EPs and stuff like. There is really weird, sort of

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random selection of stuff like that.
But I do think they are one of

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those bands where you could kind of
throw a dart at any of their songs

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pretty much and put a Settlers together
with that, and I'd just be completely

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satisfied, because, like you say, my I don't know, it's my

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favorite run. If I was ranked
the Napalm Death records, it would really

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be all over the place. But
there were days where I think Utilitarian is

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the best thing they've ever done.
And the only song we got off that

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is the Wolf I Feed and we
didn't get you got nothing off that record,

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huh, Well, I think then
getting five songs off the new record,

404
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I think Napalm Death are kind of
out on an island when it comes

405
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,400
to like extreme Pioneers, or they
at least have very few piers because they're

406
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,319
one of the only bands of their
age, their style where going to see

407
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:06,240
them doesn't feel like a legacy act
like Discharge or Venom whatever. You totally

408
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:07,240
agree with that, Yeah, you
go and see them, because it's like,

409
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,960
I'm gonna go see the Venom songs, but there isn't the feeling of

410
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:15,400
I'm at a Venom show in the
legendary sense. Nap On Death is one

411
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,240
of those where it's like, even
though I wasn't there in the eighties and

412
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:19,680
the nineties, or you know,
even the two thousands, I wasn't seeing

413
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,799
them in that run. We were
just talking about the power of the band

414
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:30,759
is kind of unbelievable and to the
point where I mean, they could make

415
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:37,119
three or four sett lists of songs
they didn't play on Friday, and I

416
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,960
would have been happy with any of
them, because it's just it's so unbelievably

417
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,160
ferocious. I have such good us
offer sense as well. I always know

418
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,799
exactly where it's coming. You can
enough times and you can see them gearing

419
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,640
up, And did you get a
little bit of a pause in the set

420
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,160
as they start to go yeah they
start, they exchange a couple of looks,

421
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,000
and I'm like, Okay, here
we go. I always then forget

422
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:02,480
that dead comes like a couple Yeah. If again, if we get a

423
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:06,920
campaign for musical destruction in like a
year's time with another set of bands,

424
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,160
maybe again. I think it'd be
slightly unfair to compare their tory package to

425
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,559
this one all the time, because
this feels particularly outrageous, but I'm sure

426
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,079
it'd be good. Maybe we can
make this a bit of a yearly event

427
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,519
that we all go along to the
fucking stacked as shit and a palm their

428
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:22,599
show, because what a wonderful time
that is, Like I said, for

429
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,160
me, Liverpool was the final night
of the tour. It was the very

430
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,880
next day actually that a piece of
news broke that kind of tinged that,

431
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,759
you know, that great night before
with a little bit of sadness. As

432
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:37,559
said, I was sort of watching
Pig Story being like, oh when did

433
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,160
they get a new noise guy?
Because Blake had been with them at the

434
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,640
dam Nation show and he'd been there
for as long as I could remember,

435
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,000
and I don't remember any sort of
announcement of him not being there or anything.

436
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,920
But the next day the news broke
that Blake Harrison, who has picked

437
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,680
Destroyers sort of sound designer I guess
you would call him the electronics guy,

438
00:27:53,519 --> 00:28:00,960
had passed away. And this is
it's just one of those ones that feels

439
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:04,880
like, obviously, any sort of
musical loss is hard. And you know,

440
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,240
Blake Harrison is not like a rock
star, you know, like he's

441
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,480
not one of the most famous people
to walk into our walls. But there

442
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,799
are certain people where if you are
kind of deep into certain communities, like

443
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:22,240
the extreme metal community, for example, there are people who just kind of

444
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,400
crop up a lot who everyone kind
of seems to know who. People have

445
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,079
stories about, people who kind of
regularly stuck their neck out for other bands

446
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,200
or just kind of like inserted themselves
in a significant capacity into that kind of

447
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,000
community beyond just being a person from
a band, and Blake Harrison was one

448
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,759
of those. He The sheer amount
of the outpouring of kind of love and

449
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:49,519
tributes that I've seen for Blake Harrison
over the last week or so speaks to

450
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,400
how significant a kind of shadow he
cast over the again, particularly the extreme

451
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,960
metal sort of grassroots community. He
held an was just, you know,

452
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,160
a very a solemn thing to again
happen that particular week along with along with

453
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,960
this tour. Yeah, I was. I was pretty gusted when this news

454
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,680
came out, and in a way
that I don't know, maybe this sounds

455
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:14,599
odd, but like I wasn't expect
obviously it was a complete surprise. But

456
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,440
I think Blake Harrison is, like
you say, he's just he's one of

457
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,880
those I don't know if he reluctance
to the word, but he's kind of

458
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,359
emerged as something of a character in
extreme music because he's just one of those

459
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:29,880
one of a kind interesting people like
I don't think I've ever seen someone quite

460
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,400
like him as a you know,
an air quotes like performer for lack of

461
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,079
a better term. Because you're seeing
them at Damnation in twenty twenty two.

462
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,599
I'm not sure I've ever seen someone
so at ease being on stage and not

463
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,400
in the soul I'm so cool and
over I do this all the time.

464
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,880
He was just completely uninterested in putting
on a show and in the coolest way

465
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,839
he would the way he would work
the diet was like so the way you

466
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,119
were talking about the new guy jumping
around like like hit, punching himself in

467
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:59,359
the head, diving in the crowd. Blake Harrison was like the opposite of

468
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,119
that. He woul He would tune
the things just like he was on adjusting

469
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,079
the temperature of his fish tank.
It was just the most like. There

470
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:07,279
was a bit we always talked,
me and my mates who were at that

471
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,359
show, we always talk about it
where he wandered out to the front of

472
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,559
the stage and just sort of looked
out for half a song and then wandered

473
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,160
back. And then when he put
on one of the samples, rather than

474
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,599
again putting on the whole show of
waving his hands getting everyone hyped up,

475
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:23,519
he just walked away from his table, turned her face backstage and scratched the

476
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:26,880
back of his head. And it's
like we're in front of like five thousand

477
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:33,759
people and he just for me.
He was a huge part of that experience

478
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,759
and that's just live. Yeah.
And he looked like you know those those

479
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:41,559
videos you see where like, I
don't know if you ever saw this in

480
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:44,599
school, there's that like advert,
like a road safety advert of it.

481
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:47,000
I was like, did you see
the moon walking there where it's like a

482
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,359
bunch of people playing basketball and you
have to like count the amount of people

483
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:55,079
playing basketball. Yeah, it's awareness
thing. He's like that walking through a

484
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,279
Pig Destroyer set. It's like there's
all of that carnage and he's sort of

485
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,519
like you know, Neo at the
end of the matrix, just sort of

486
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:07,640
like swerving his way past anything in
the most nonchalant way. And yeah,

487
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,079
I agree in that sense. But
also, you know, even things like

488
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,359
if you're far enough into grindcore,
you've probably heard a hate beat song at

489
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:17,720
one point and just see sort of
spread around and that was him and you

490
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,000
know, like a like a long
running decibel column he ran. So you've

491
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,400
probably you know, if you've looked
at, like, you know, our

492
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,279
new releases coming out in Extreme melod
you've probably read his words about them,

493
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:32,480
and like I said, just sort
of a lot of people kind of have

494
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,720
those Blake Harrison stories of kind of
him being significant in some way, and

495
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:38,000
that's yeah, it's just one of
the ones that kind of the proximity of

496
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:41,039
it, I guess felt a little
bit, you know, really noticeable in

497
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,039
that regard in terms of like you
know, he joined the band just before

498
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,799
the Phantom Limb album and you know
kind of contributed again sort of sound design

499
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,400
stuff to everything through that for me, his kind of maybe if you want

500
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:59,559
to hear the kind of Blake Harrisons
sound playing masterpiece is recorded just before he

501
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:01,319
actually properly officially joined I guess,
but I think it was the first thing

502
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:06,400
you did with them. Then Natasha
EP, which I was listening to just

503
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:14,039
before recording this podcast, and it's
an EP even though looking it's maybe the

504
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,119
longest Pig Destroyer release or like second
longest or something. It's like pretty lengthy,

505
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,799
but in terms of an environment where
that kind of thing really comes out

506
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,680
and can be shown as significant,
there's really nothing like it. So yeah,

507
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,599
really sad news about the passing of
Blake Harrison. News from here is

508
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:32,880
pretty easy, really not a lot
of demanding stuff going on. We do

509
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,680
have the news that one of the
pieces of news, I guess broke at

510
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,119
a time where everyone now who's going
will already bought their tickets to it.

511
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,559
But Biffy Cliro, after a little
bit of teasing where I saw the teasing,

512
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:43,960
I was like, what are you? What are you up to?

513
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:51,759
They announced the Silhouettes of the Like. They're performing their first three albums across

514
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,759
six shows. One show one album
a night in Glasgow and London, which

515
00:32:55,799 --> 00:33:00,000
made me, as someone in between
these things go Okay, not not going

516
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:04,960
to do that one then, But
if you are in Glasgow or London and

517
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,279
you were lucky enough to snag ticket
to see them performing either Black and Sky,

518
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:12,319
what's the second one, I'm called
Promise of Bliss, but Bliss that's

519
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,680
the one, and Infinity Land in
full, you are going to have a

520
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:20,680
very special night. Indeed, I've
got to get to the Infinity Land because

521
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,920
it was like it was that a
Black and Sky like and I was like,

522
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,119
in terms of the album before package, I'm thinking Infinity Land. I

523
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,160
mean small venue for them in London
game see bif Clire songs I've probably never

524
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,720
thought i'd see played. Yeah,
I'm gonna have a lovely time. Yeah,

525
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,079
I would have been. Again,
if I'd been a better situation,

526
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:39,240
I would have been very tempted by
Black and Sky or Infinity Land in a

527
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:44,440
very again a different Biffy Clyro thing. It's nice that they still at least

528
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:46,599
kind of, you know, recognize
though those albums and give them the kind

529
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,920
of treatment like this. We also
have the news that No Effects are adding

530
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,720
two more their final, final,
Final European shows. They're doing two more

531
00:33:54,759 --> 00:34:00,680
shows in London at the end,
which genuinely are apparently the last London shows

532
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,160
that you're going to see. No
effects that so pretty big bills on these.

533
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680
They've got the fucking Descendants on one
of them, the Circle Jerks on

534
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,760
another one. Big punk time's going
on there. But yeah, those are

535
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,000
no effects his final London UK shows. If you want to see them before

536
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,719
they go, that would be the
time to do it. Over across the

537
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,559
pond, Weezer have anouts a huge
anniversary tour for none other than the Blue

538
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,760
album where they're going to be performing
that in full. They're bringing the Flaming

539
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,880
Lips and Dinosaur Junior along with them. I so want to go. I'm

540
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,440
not going to go. But it's
like the slaughter of the soul, but

541
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:37,320
for nerds, because they basically,
yeah, I've seen the entirety of the

542
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,599
Blue album. It's about the longest
slaughter of the soul, isn't it.

543
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:44,679
Fuck? But the way like when
we a damnination, we were slaughter of

544
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,199
the soil. You know, most
of the big songs they play at every

545
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:51,159
shoulder, never in night order.
That's that's that's what the Blue Arm.

546
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,199
You're going to be there and it's
just going to be ten ten out of

547
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:58,480
ten Weezer songs in a row.
And you know, I think Dinosaur Junior

548
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,800
are really good at the Flaming Lips
are excellent. So I don't know,

549
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,119
maybe bring it to the UK Big
Nerds night out for sure. Speaking of

550
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:14,440
Nerds, Glastonbury there their full lineup. I say you that because like apparently

551
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,199
the Glastonbury Nerds are like upset about
the headliners because they're like too popular or

552
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:22,480
something. It's like glaston bree It's
like, yeah, Cold playing Scissor and

553
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:25,119
they're like, oh, we need
where's the cool bands? It's like,

554
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,159
motherfuckers, you're Glastonbury, don't pretend
you're not into Coldplay. Fuck you but

555
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:37,119
rock relevance hi viz Mannequin Pussy and
fucking high Lung. You've someone off that

556
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:43,960
list of relevant rock bands. Don't
bring up averirl Levive for sake. Well,

557
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:45,599
Hireland, I think you're going to
clean up the most out of all

558
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:49,559
of those. I think cross Over
appeal. You think if they get the

559
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:53,599
right slot and catch the right people, maybe with the dream, Yeah,

560
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,599
they won't be following bad Omens whatever
the fuck is it download or mister Bungle.

561
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:06,599
Yeah, you can imagine someone higher's
piss at Glastonbury having like the most

562
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:10,800
spiritual experience, like where am I? I've gone back in time? I

563
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,199
am under you know, Viking Rule. High VI's I think is really cool

564
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:17,039
out of these. I know,
yeah, they probably won't because they're tiny

565
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:21,000
and whatever, but I would love
to see, like you know, when

566
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:22,719
sets turn up or BBC iPlayer whatever, I would like to actually see High

567
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,639
VI's at Glastonbury and see how that
kind of happened. That's cool news.

568
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,079
They're a little bit of new music. Not a lot of kind of new

569
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,679
songs to speak of this week of
much significance. The biggest one is just

570
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,400
the fact that Burton C. Bell
seems to have launched his solo recording career

571
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:42,239
with something of a fear Factory disc
song, Because the lyrics in this track

572
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,679
are I severed the machine that no
longer served me. I'd rather be dead

573
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:47,559
than a slave to the factory.
And I think there's a little bit more

574
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:51,119
meaning to it than that. But
also it's very just we seem to be

575
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:52,679
living in a sort of a golden
age of diss tracks. At the moment,

576
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,079
I don't know what it is.
Like every few months we have something

577
00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:00,239
and this isn't as good as like
the Glory Hammer Power All Meltdown or whatever,

578
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,000
but like, I don't know,
it is quite amusing. I mean,

579
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,639
I've never really liked Fear Factory and
it's almost all down to we reviewed

580
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,880
their last album and that was when
Alex was on here with us, and

581
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,440
I was like surrounded by people who
like not liking Fear Factory in their prime

582
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,239
form. I mean I missed that. I missed that week, but I

583
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,840
did like that. I remember listening
to that Fear Factory album in preparation for

584
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,079
him, was like this is yeah. I mean it's been about a decade

585
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:28,559
since I genuinely loved something crush as
a banger, you know, Fear Factory.

586
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:34,000
I've got bangers go back. Oh, I've tried d Manufacturers. So

587
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:37,679
I've probably listened to that more than
most people have listened to albums they actually

588
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,679
like. And just every time I
pray and hope it clicks and it never

589
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,199
has. But because of that,
a Fear Factory disc track loans down.

590
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,280
It's just it's because Burns done this
a couple of times. He did it

591
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,679
in Fear Factory when Dino was sort
of out in the willness for a few

592
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,679
years. But whenever he's not with
Dino, he's like, oh, thank

593
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,760
god, I found out I can
I can be good Now It's like,

594
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:06,519
no, you're the bad part.
Yeah, this was I was still waiting

595
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:07,719
for the riff and Dino isn't there, so it doesn't come. It's like

596
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,840
it's this is like a full on
industrial like not an industrial metal track,

597
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,519
just an industrial track. It's all
right. He doesn't do any clean singing

598
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:20,719
on it, which is this is
a blessing, which at times it can

599
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,639
be. It's sort of one of
his trademarks when he's on it, but

600
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:27,480
you know, maybe maybe not recently. I just lights in the video he's

601
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,960
got some crazy claw hands going.
I don't know what's happening there. I

602
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,559
was like, we saw them at
work at Halloween to get them. Yeah.

603
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,599
So yeah, burtnsy Bell is officially
a solo artist. Now he is

604
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,639
dissing The Factory. We also have
the news that Gate Creeper's new album,

605
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:45,559
which we spoke about, a lead
single from which coming a few weeks ago.

606
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,480
It's called Dark Superstition. It's going
to be out on May the seventeenth,

607
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:52,559
And there's another track along with this
that I know we you know,

608
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:55,360
we don't tend to talk about sort
of second singles. This one, I

609
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,599
might like it at least as much
as that first one, which we were

610
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,880
so heavily about. And the really
shocking thing about this one is is a

611
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:07,039
Paradise Loss song because because like the
guitar lines in this, like I'm talking

612
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:08,880
about that, I don't remember there
being so much melody in them when we

613
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,519
spoke out the previous one. This
track is straight off of fucking Draconian Times

614
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,480
or something, And like, I
am so down for Gate Creeper trying to

615
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,880
add Paradise Lost to the list of
bands with Bolt Thrower and Habitchery and Entombed

616
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:25,159
that like hardcore death metal kids are
into if we can have some kind of

617
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:32,119
like Peaceville three Doom Renaissance amongst like
the Frozen Soul, Like I would be

618
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:37,719
so so down for that Gatecreepers leveling
up moment. I think like that that

619
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,079
EP they put out a couple of
years ago was really really solid and that

620
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:45,199
sort of step up there. This
just feels like the ambition and scope of

621
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,480
what they're going for way bigger and
again, like, I didn't immediately go

622
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:50,920
to the Paradoxics. I don't have
the affinity for that band as much as

623
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:57,119
you do in this straight fucking paradise, but those those guitar melodies did immediately

624
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,559
stand out to me as something different
that they haven't really done. I was

625
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:02,719
like, that's cool and exciting.
So yeah, I'm really down for whatever

626
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:07,280
gay people have in store. It
seems to be one of the fastest improving

627
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,639
bands ever because before it was each
record at EP that we're getting better.

628
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,519
Now it's literally song to song because
that caught in the trends. I think

629
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:16,559
I said at the time, this
might be their best song, and this

630
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:21,239
one I think is, like I
said, at least as good because I

631
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,159
mean, Paradise Loss. It seems
weird say because they're quite a popular band,

632
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:27,599
but I think they're one of the
most underrated bands, like in mesal

633
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,039
history, and if it takes a
buzzy hardcore death metal crossover to give them

634
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:35,079
their dues, then you know,
thank god. And I think it's so

635
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,639
cool because most bands that go,
oh, we're really inspired by Paradise Lost,

636
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,239
it ends up sounding like Lacuna coil
or something. They go really clean

637
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,079
and graceful. But one of the
things that makes Paradise Loss records from the

638
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:50,360
nineties so cool is they are graceful
and quite erudite, but there's real kind

639
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,079
of grit and filth, and this
kind of taking that principle even further.

640
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,840
I'm so excited. Basically, get
get your four sided gothic long sleeves ready,

641
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,880
Your your time is, Your time
is coming. Unclasses than the Dead

642
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,360
Beats. We've not got a new
trap from this yet, which I'm sort

643
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,920
of curious about this because they've said
it's there's they've described as having no singles

644
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,480
or hits on it. But their
new album has been announced. It is

645
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,679
called nell or A Blue, which
is obviously Italian, on May the tenth,

646
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,800
and as you can very much tell
from that title and particularly the cover

647
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,559
art, which is sort of styled
like a movie poster, the entire thing

648
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:29,679
is a big tribute to Italian Giallo
films. It features spoken word interludes from

649
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,559
Edwige Feneck and Franco Nero, which
if you don't know who those people are,

650
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:35,159
that's fine. You're probably living a
more well rounded life than I am.

651
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,400
But that means something to me,
and this I just look at this

652
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,400
and I go, yeah, I
am the person in the exact demographic for

653
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,880
an uncoll Acid album with fucking Edwige
fennex poken word. I was about to

654
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,039
say, like, this is I
quite like Cola. They've not been bad,

655
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:53,079
ever been massing in too. This
is the kind of things like,

656
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,199
oh, maybe they found the way
to fully convert me with this album.

657
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,920
So I'm keeping an eye on this
one. I feel like Uncle Acid are

658
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,199
like it's like living in an alternate
reality where ghost never liked kiss, so

659
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,800
there's no like glitz or glows or
splendor. It's just further and further down.

660
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:16,119
Yeah, in so like the grizzly
subterranean horror stuff. And yeah,

661
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:19,400
it's funny with say it's such a
it's a niche thing, but they've kind

662
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,280
of landed on something that all three
of us, yeah, are pretty literally

663
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,039
ecstatic. And the press release here, Kevin, he opens it up saying,

664
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,519
I know something like this might have
limited appeal, but who cares what

665
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:32,079
you've got us, Kevin, We're
in And the album announcements don't stop there

666
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:37,320
in terms of excitement, because Dark
Throne are back yet again. This is

667
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,920
the most prolific, like because I
go into the Dark Throne in sort of

668
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,320
the very early twenty tens, and
throughout that decade, they they genuinely did

669
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,159
that. They worked on a one
record every three years model ten, twenty

670
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:52,840
thirteen, twenty sixteen, twenty nineteen. Now we're on our like third of

671
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,320
the fucking twenties. It's wild.
They are just properly like they've condensed everything

672
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,559
down to like, yeah, okay, every eighteen months, we are going

673
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:00,639
to write and recording new album sit
months after our last ones come out all

674
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:06,320
the time. So we had eternal
Hails dot dot dot dot dot dot,

675
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,760
we had astral Fortress. And now
we have another tradition that I like them

676
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,280
picking up, which is every album
announcement is just Fenras on Instagram in the

677
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:23,760
woods just having a sort of a
slightly slightly disconnected mumble to himself about the

678
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:30,880
dark thrown uphand and then he's there
in the woods. He's like the cheveled

679
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,719
beard and he's like gloves and he's
walking poles. Like it's when you can't

680
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,159
remember where they got the album sitle
from. He's like, if you don't

681
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:40,000
know what there is, listen to
children of them buy a film again,

682
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:44,679
we can do a second takes.
It's funny. We've gotten to a point

683
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,079
where the most exciting part of a
dark Throwne album is the Instagram And now

684
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,400
we live in a world where Dark
Throne have a quarter of a million Instagram

685
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,760
followers, and you know what,
they deserve, every one of them.

686
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,159
And that does make it sound like
I'm not excited for the actual album,

687
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:00,559
which I am because Dark Throne are
one of the They're in that Cannibal Corps

688
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:06,039
category of the most consistent bands to
like ever walk into music. I like

689
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,639
that they now just describe their music
as like old metal. It's like,

690
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:14,320
we don't know what it is.
It's just sort of old. On the

691
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,239
last few I really like, well
all of them, but particularly like Eternal

692
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,000
Hailes. But this one sort of
maybe they're done with that doom thing.

693
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,440
I don't know, but yeah,
we'll have to see. The record is

694
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,440
called it beckons Us All, which
is I think is a really cool title.

695
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,320
They've always got them down. It's
got a cool cover art. Fucking

696
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:30,960
dart Throne. Hell yeah, albums
that on eighth I'm just him walking through

697
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,400
the woods this time for the album
Come Yeah albums out on April twenty sixth

698
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,320
a lot along with every other album
ever and apparently it's so good that Nocturno

699
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,119
Colto shook Fenris's hand at the end
of recording it, which he says they

700
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,480
haven't done since they met in nineteen
eighty eight. So a huge metal event

701
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:51,840
coming towards us, if that is
to be believed. Patreon dot com slash

702
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,239
That's not Metal. That is the
place to go if you want to support

703
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,760
us, and if you like what
we do, it's most most appreciated.

704
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,960
Our latest thing on there is they
can coclusion still of our Alexis on fire

705
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:06,199
Band Special, which I do believe
is the most sort of like thorough in

706
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,960
depth discussion of that band's entire arc
that you will hear. I know,

707
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:12,360
I like to say that about these
things because that is what we aim to

708
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,039
achieve. I think this time is
certainly one of the cases where that's probably

709
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:19,320
true. If you just want to
hear everything that is included under the umbrella,

710
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,639
other projects and all summed up over
the course of many, many hours,

711
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:25,880
then you know the only band ever
have their story told. Over on

712
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:30,480
the Patreon we also have our latest
album Club Pack where we spoke about,

713
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:34,119
Yes, the Blackout, also you
know Agaloc and fucking Rush Power Windows Hell

714
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:37,239
Yeah, put your fucking stung glasses
on and we will have you know,

715
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:39,679
I guess next week when we do
the review show, I will announce what

716
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:43,920
will be on the upcoming album Club
Pact. We have more of that where

717
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,760
that came from releases today. It's
a bit of a maybe sort of a

718
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,320
less high profile week than from the
last couple, which is kind of kind

719
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,559
of nice. But we do have
some real stars amongst us. Kid Kopeechee

720
00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,840
kick us off with there Goes the
Neighborhood. Who are any kind of buzzy

721
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,760
band in the UK at the moment. I haven't worked out necessarily if they're

722
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,360
for me or not, but I
can certainly respect what they're kind of going

723
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:13,920
going for, sort of you know, indie punk. Well, how would

724
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,000
you describe them, Sam Like,
I guess it's knna yeah, indie punk,

725
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:17,960
a little bit of grime almost in
there, I guess, and some

726
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,440
of it kind of like a sort
of crossed on a thing. Again,

727
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:24,840
I've not been computed with them,
but there's been a couple of songs they've

728
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,079
released on the Boks that have really
hit me that I'm like, I definitely

729
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:30,400
want to give this a listen and
see where it goes. Yeah, so

730
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,679
I think that this one will certainly
do very well amongst a sizable factor of

731
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,840
the audience. Speaking of the stars, amongst us, it's Scott's Stapp of

732
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:45,239
course, his album Higher Power,
which was announced a while ago. I

733
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,280
hope that's on there. Yeah,
so Scott stat fans rejoice. The Black

734
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,000
Crows also, I am have a
They've got an album called Happiness Bastards,

735
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,880
which are the Black Crows. I
only have only ever listened to like their

736
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,400
first one or two albums, which
I know are kind of treated as some

737
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,840
kind of minor classics for a lot
of people out there. I don't know

738
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,440
if people still care about their ongoing
music. I generally don't know. If

739
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,119
you are a Black Crows fan and
then they are exciting still, then great

740
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:15,880
Happiness Bastards is out there. We
also have Gouge Away Deep Sage, that's

741
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,880
I guess the big release of the
week for kind of you know, harder

742
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,239
sort of punk and the one alternative
rock and stuff like that. So that

743
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,920
is cool. Indeed, there's also
a band called Bleak with My Body is

744
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,480
Not Where I Belong, which is
sort of a bit more kind of a

745
00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:34,400
nineties Grungey type affair. Then going
way over the other end of the spectrum,

746
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,280
Dragon Force back with Warp Speed Warriors. It's been I guess a couple

747
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,920
of albums now since I've genuinely loved
a Dragon Force album, but I always

748
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,000
hope that there'd be something fun and
good in the mist. We also have

749
00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:51,400
in heavy metal sphere there's a I
think this is a debut album. It's

750
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,039
called It's a band called Savage Oath. The record is called Divine Battle.

751
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,920
The main thing I know about them
is that Brendan, the singer from Summer

752
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,079
Lands, is their singer so and
he's one of the greatest current sort of

753
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,760
headed out of singer, so I'm
sure that will at least have some wicked

754
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,159
vocal parts and everything on there.
Moving into extreme territory, we've got Alta

755
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,880
Mass with a v Volta Mass.
Their record epic, I hope it is.

756
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,599
This is probably one of the albums
I'm more looking forward to checking out

757
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,360
this week because I really liked the
first Ultimass record. It's kind of a

758
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,559
supergroup. It's basically, if you
want to hear David Vincent, formerly of

759
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:22,320
Morbid Angels singing that all these days, this is where you've got to go.

760
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:27,360
It's got a Blasphema formerly of Mayhem
on guitar, it's got a flow

761
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,239
from Kryptopsy on drums. It's sort
of very stack and the first one was

762
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,639
like, actually, you kind of
lived up to what you would hope some

763
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,960
of those guys coming together to sound
like. So I hope that this is

764
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:39,760
as good. We also have aborted
their latest record, Vault of Horrors,

765
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,599
which is that they've just seem to
have gone so fully down the kind of

766
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:46,280
like horror reference rabbit hole with each
ensuing record. So if that is your

767
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,880
vibe, then that is their necrophobic
Swedish legends into the Twilight Gray. We

768
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,719
have ou Dad, I hope that's
how it's pronounced. A self title record.

769
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,920
That's the guy from Mark doing kind
of more black metal stuff. I

770
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,239
haven't quite word out with different between
projects is, but that's there some strange

771
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,840
post metally type stuff. There's Ozon
with Vermillion Hayes, and there's a couple

772
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,000
of EPs this week. There's one
from Great Gray Wind, which is a

773
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,840
band i'd forgotten existed. I think
they haven't released anything in a long time,

774
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,039
but they're back apparently with their record
Antidote and Comeback Kid have an EP

775
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:19,960
always reliably good Comeback Kid. You
know, I'm sure I'm going to listen

776
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,239
to this come back in EP a
lot and have a lovely time. Yeah,

777
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,800
and I guarantee that with the Cave
for some people out there as well,

778
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,639
So thank you very much for listening. As said, next week,

779
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:31,719
the next weekly, you know,
free version of a TNM is going to

780
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:37,199
be our reviews show for March.
It's kind of a bit of a like

781
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,679
I said, eight pro is so
fucking busy that March is a bit like

782
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,920
quite quick fit things in before everything
goes absolutely mental. But there are some

783
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:47,440
really high profile releases. Obviously,
we just had a Due Priest album,

784
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,599
We had a Bruce Dickinson album,
different you know, realms of haaving that.

785
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,960
We have something that aren't heavy metal
in there as well. I'm sure

786
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,559
that Gage Away record for example.
So come back here next week, we're

787
00:49:57,559 --> 00:49:59,960
gonna be talking about all that for
a few hours, as we always.

788
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,519
I will also, as said,
announce the album club Pack, who followed

789
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:06,960
shortly after that, and yeah,
fucking heavy metal. Everyone cheers,
