WEBVTT 1 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:33.359 Karthe Goo to Londa est Hello and welcome to Everything's Political. I'm your host, 2 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:38.960 Taya Shoemake. You can also find us online at Everything's Political dot substack 3 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:46.240 dot com. Shout out to Magicman Joe Strecker, the John Dickinson of podcast 4 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:52.439 producers, born on this day in seventeen thirty two. He is indeed one 5 00:00:52.479 --> 00:01:00.039 of our favorite revolutionaries. Of course, the famous penmen of letters from a 6 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:07.000 farmer in Pennsylvania to both the Crown and Parliament to try to stave the secession 7 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:14.719 from Mother England during the War for Independence. And of course what I loved 8 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:21.159 about him was that he first of all, his eloquence and grasp of the 9 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:27.959 English language was wonderful. His prose was off the charts. Also, he 10 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:38.200 understood that they had exhausted every measure to get the Crown to understand their plight, 11 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:45.599 or to even listen to their plight, and they just kept getting the 12 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.599 big one finger salute. Now, he did not sign the Declaration of Independence, 13 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:56.359 he did not necessarily want to secede again, and he didn't really want 14 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.599 to go to war. Who does. But when that decision was made, 15 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.879 he understood that they did everything in their power, and he was the first 16 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:10.360 to arm those around him, and so I do appreciate that from John Dickinson 17 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:16.280 born on this day in seventeen thirty two. Okay, joining us today is 18 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:22.400 one of our favorite guests. He is one of the world's most renowned experts 19 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:27.280 and pulmonary and critical care. He is also the president and chief medical Officer 20 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:32.479 of the Frontline COVID nineteen Critical Care Alliance and the author of the War on 21 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:38.240 Ivermectin. He is doctor Pierre Corey. Welcome back, doctor Pierre Corey. 22 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:43.400 Thanks for being with us today. Definitely a pleasure, Doctor Corey. Wow, 23 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.560 I'm sure you have lit a firestorm with your series multi part series that 24 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:54.560 you've released on substack about the topic of shedding with regard to the mRNA shots. 25 00:02:55.280 --> 00:03:00.280 Just to start off a basic lesson, what is shedding? Yeah, 26 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:05.599 So that's a good question because shedding is actually a term that's been used for 27 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:10.080 decades in context of viral shedding. So after vaccines, people are vaccinated, 28 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:14.199 they get a virus, they can still shed virus. But that's not what 29 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.319 we're talking about here. This is a different definition of shedding, and I've 30 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.919 actually seen people kind of confuse that to it actually made it hard to do 31 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.639 the research because when you use the search term shedding, you're deluged with all 32 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:30.680 these papers about viral shedding. So this is very specific to the shedding of 33 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:35.520 gene therapy products, right, because that's what these vaccines are. And sort 34 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:39.479 of my post kind of begins with kind of two findings. One is that 35 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:44.240 the mr Anda vaccines, to anyone paying attention, I'm sure you know this 36 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.599 right, meets the definition of a gene based therapy product. So once you 37 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:53.719 understand it is that. And then you come across this document from the FDI 38 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.520 from twenty fifteen essentially recommending that not only animal shedding studies be done, but 39 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:04.080 human hetting studies be done for any gene therapy product. And just like many 40 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:08.360 other types of studies, shedding studies were not done. Now, actually, 41 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:14.080 let me correct that there was a FOYA document where there was a mention of 42 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.720 a rat study where they did they looked at shedding and rats. We don't 43 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:23.240 know the results of that, and that hasn't been publicized. So effectively, 44 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:28.079 no shedding studies were done. So what we hear from the Twitter verse and 45 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:33.600 all those experts with a lot of letters after their name is only live attenuated 46 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:38.360 viruses can shed if they are in a vex, if they're used in a 47 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:43.959 vaccine, and that really doesn't get to the heart of it in my opinion, 48 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:48.120 because if you think past that, you're still injecting your body with something 49 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:51.480 that is going to produce an antigen that your body will want to expel. 50 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:57.279 Is that an accurate assessment. I mean, this is a gense therapy where 51 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.000 we're injecting and then this is why it meets the definition of a gene based 52 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.120 theory is that you're injecting mr and A, which then gets transcribed into a 53 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:09.000 protein, so your body starts producing this foreign protein. Right, So that 54 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.759 is one of the products of these vaccines, But there are others. Right 55 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:19.040 there's actual vaccine itself, which is mRNA enclosed in a lipid nanoparticle, and 56 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:23.879 we kind of call them lipid nanoparticles when they're synthetic like in the vaccines, 57 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.920 but they're the natural counterparts a something that circulates in our body, which we 58 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.800 use the term exosomes, so they're kind of interchangeable. I kind of use 59 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:36.560 one to refer to the synthetic version of a nanoparticle and the exosome is sort 60 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:43.319 of the endogenous biological version of a nanoparticle, and that's kind of the third 61 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:48.079 key concept that people have to understand is that although we categorize them as a 62 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:54.319 gene therapy product, I think it's much more instructive to understand them as part 63 00:05:54.360 --> 00:06:00.120 of nanoparticle technology. This is only one form of a nanoparticle nectop technology, 64 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:05.040 and that's where you really start learning about shedding. When you start learning about 65 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:11.199 this nanoparticle industry, how long it's been going on, how many products using 66 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:15.040 nanoparticles are actually available to consumers right now, this is only one of them. 67 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:21.120 One of the review papers cited that there's one eight and fourteen nanoparticle products 68 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:28.360 available to consumers across multiple fields. And so when you understand the then you 69 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.480 have to understand a little bit of something about the nanoparticle, which is that 70 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:40.160 these nanoparticles are just shocking to me because they actually can cross almost any physiologic 71 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:45.199 barer. So they can cross the skin, they can go get in through 72 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:48.519 the eyes, they can be inhaled, I mean, they have many different 73 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:53.120 ways of entering the body. And then you also have to match that with 74 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:57.000 the fact that we know contrary to the claims that you know these things would 75 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.279 stay in your arm. They can't stay in your arm. They literally can 76 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.480 cross and distribute anywhere in the body. We've known that from animal studies, 77 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:10.560 we know that from autopsy studies that you see spike and lipid nanoparticles distributed everywhere. 78 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.600 And so that's the thing about nanoparticle technology that we have to remember. 79 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:16.879 And one of the things that shocked me is that in reading like these numerous 80 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:23.000 kind of review papers, each paper has a sentence in it, oftentimes in 81 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:28.879 the abstract conclusion. More studies on the safety and toxicity of these nanoparticles need 82 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:31.120 to be done, and they weren't done. They're not done, and in 83 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.040 particular with this product, we did not do shedding studies that the FDA recommended. 84 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:40.879 Well, I think this topic has sparked such a firestorm. People have 85 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:46.319 so many questions that yield other questions, right, which just demand the studies 86 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:51.639 to your point that need to be conducted. Originally, I mean, I 87 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:58.120 had an idea that vaccines shed and I also knew I read a paper a 88 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:03.279 long time ago about the FDA or some pharmaceutical company that was trying to create 89 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:09.800 a vaccine to mediate the hunt of virus that was going around in mice, 90 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.279 and so they were trying to find a self spreading vaccine. So of course 91 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.800 when I hear shedding. When I heard that regarding the COVID shot, that's 92 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:22.319 the first thing that popped into my mind. But initially I didn't dismiss it. 93 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.439 I was always aware of it. But I thought to myself, if 94 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:31.839 this shot was so precarious, right, you had to freeze it to death, 95 00:08:31.080 --> 00:08:35.200 You had to make sure you handled it a certain way in order for 96 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.799 it to be effective to get into the body, et cetera, encapsulate it 97 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:43.639 in that fat or LNP. It made sense that the spike would come out 98 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.039 right, because that's what's produced. But as far as the mRNA, as 99 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.840 far as the LNP, I thought, well, maybe that's a little difficult. 100 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.759 But again, no one's going to know. And it wasn't until I 101 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.799 had my own event with the shedding occurrence that I went, Okay, well 102 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:07.480 maybe this is maybe there's more to this. Well there is more. So 103 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:11.639 although they didn't do shedding studies, we have a few studies that are really 104 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:16.080 concerning right. So there's one study where they looked for spike antibodies and the 105 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.600 children of vaccinated parents, right, who had not had COVID, had not 106 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:26.399 been vaccinated, and they found IgG antibodies and the children. And in that 107 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:33.759 paper, the authors they hypothesized that it was somehow the antibodies that were being 108 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:35.639 transmitted, and that this is in breast milk infants. Rightly, we'll get 109 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.759 to that in a second. This is the children in the household of newly 110 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:45.120 vaccinated parents. So it leaves the question how come the children developed antibodies to 111 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.759 the spike protein, right, So you have two choices. The authors positive 112 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:54.159 that it's the antibodies that are somehow transmitted to the children. I haven't heard 113 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:58.440 of that. I'm not naturally immune to anything just because my parents had it 114 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.600 right, their antibodies, I mean, aside from breast milk transmission and transplacental 115 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:07.080 transmission of animis I'm talking about before COVID. I'm not aware of immunity being 116 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.279 passed from parent to child. So these authors literally positive that was the case. 117 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.080 My after you read the entire series and all of the evidence, I'm 118 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:22.080 certain that what gave those kids the ability to make antibodies is either the transmission 119 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:28.360 of lipid nanoparticle closed m RNA to the child or spike protein to the child. 120 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:33.200 But the children got something that had to make their own antibodies. And 121 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.879 so we know just in the household that you can transfer some part of the 122 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.720 product. Again, is it the spike antibody or the mr and that we 123 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:43.559 don't know. We don't have studies for that, but clearly there's components or 124 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:48.039 products of these mr E vaccines that now cause immunity in those in your environment. 125 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:52.759 So that's one piece of data the most alarming. And this is why 126 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:58.000 I think it's actually the spike protein that's being transmitted to those children, is 127 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:03.159 because the spike protein. And I would call myself an expert, an evolving 128 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.720 expert in the treatment of spike protein and neuse diseases because that's what I do 129 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.720 in my private practice. That's all we do, is we treat long VACS 130 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.480 and long covid, and the spike protein is clearly the pathogen for all of 131 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:18.840 the symptoms because the two syndromes, long VACS and long covid are essentially identical. 132 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:22.759 One right, long covid, it's just a spike protein and the virus, 133 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.720 and the other one it's just a spike protein and so those are the 134 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.799 similarities. Right, There's no lipid nanoparticles in long COVID. So the reason 135 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.399 why I think it's a spike protein is there's another study which and this was 136 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.440 shocking to me, they looked at it was one of the kind of the 137 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.399 first studies that really kind of blew up in like our world. I'm going 138 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.559 to call it the COVID dissident world, right, where we're looking at all 139 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.639 the things that they're suppressing and distorting. Right. And a paper by two 140 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.240 very high level researchers hit a preprint over maybe a year and a half ago 141 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:58.600 looking at correlations between excess mortality and vaccination rates across the US and Europe, 142 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.159 and they found repeated strong correlations. As vaccination rates with the mr ANDA went 143 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.559 up, so did excess mortality. Very good reasons for that, we know. 144 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.679 But and I didn't read this or pick up on this on the time, 145 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.879 but I saw it in somebody else was writing about this and pointed this 146 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:20.639 out. In that paper, they found that the correlation between vaccination rates of 147 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:28.919 adults actually correlated with rises and excess mortality of unvaccinated children. And they found 148 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:33.279 that like out of thirty two correlations they did twenty nine of them. They 149 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.440 were strongly correlated. So literally, as you ramp up these adult vaccination campaigns 150 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:41.519 at a time when the children were not being vaccinated, remember that period before 151 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:45.919 we started giving it to kids, and they saw those type correlations, and 152 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.320 those correlations held up to about eighteen weeks after the vaccine. And so why 153 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:56.519 would kids suddenly start dying as adults were starting to get aggressively vaccinated. And 154 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:01.799 that's probably the most troubling aspect of of what was being transmitted or shed, 155 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:07.080 And so it truly is shocking to me. It's shocking, and I read 156 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:11.600 I think it was part seven or part nine with all of the anecdotal evidence. 157 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:16.399 And we spoke last time about at some point the anecdotal evidence becomes the 158 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:20.440 basis for the scientific studies, right, there's not even a question. I 159 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.120 mean, read those I'd like to call them case reports, although they're not 160 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:30.799 obviously formal, peer reviewed published case reports because and without getting to cynical too 161 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.919 early, I mean, I think it would be nearly impossible to publish one 162 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:39.120 for a few reasons. One would be political. We know that the you 163 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.519 know, we're dealing with mass censorship of anything adverse about these vaccines, especially 164 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.440 something as troubling as this, because this has impacts potential inmocs. I'm literally 165 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.360 all of humanity. That's a very strange sentence to have to say, but 166 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.440 it's true, it actually impacts me. I have concerns now I after learning 167 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.200 what I learned about shedding. That would be one reason why you couldn't publish 168 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.360 it. The other one is really for a case report, you have to 169 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.720 have some sort of other supporting evidence that it was due to transmission of a 170 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:09.120 product. So for instance, you'd want to have like, you know, 171 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:15.360 no spike antibodies before the event, and then spike annibodies after without any you 172 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.679 know, any typical viral symptoms, or you'd have to find spike in the 173 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.759 blood, like you would need some yological or blood evidence to support your assertion. 174 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:26.080 So you know, they haven't published any of these case reports. But 175 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:31.559 if you see, the anecdotes are beyond compelling. They're convincing, and a 176 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:41.639 number of them were written by physicians and even sort of microbiology experts, Like 177 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:45.679 these were scientific folks, and you could see the way that they wrote Their 178 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.919 kind of anecdotes were very scientific, very kind of objective, they ruled out 179 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.039 confounders, and then I just want to bring up, like, how kind 180 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:58.039 of I got more and more interested in this is that in our practice, 181 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:03.279 we started to see a co of our patients who were reporting like we were 182 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:07.200 getting them better with our therapies. They were enjoying a new functional status and 183 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.840 mitigation of their symptoms. And then they were querying us like, you know, 184 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.600 I keep feeling good and then something goes backward. So they kept relapsing, 185 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.240 getting new symptoms, and they themselves started to see a pattern developed whereas 186 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:24.360 it was occurring after close exposures to the recently vaccinated. Then my first report 187 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.919 that I treated was March of twenty twenty one. And the most common of 188 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:35.960 these shetting phenomenon far and away is menstrual irregularities in women, and that exploded 189 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:37.919 on social media in early twenty twenty one, right everyone fact checked it to 190 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.759 death, dismissed it. The Facebook groups got shut down, and so that's 191 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.039 number one, and we saw, you know, a lot of the case 192 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.559 reports are on that, but other symptoms can happen as well, and some 193 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:54.080 of them are striking for severe illness that doesn't relate to the mental admalities, 194 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.200 but probably a good time where I'm going to again mention. And I feel 195 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:02.919 always uncomfortable doing this because I know of a group. They have a paper, 196 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:06.120 they did a study. It's a prospective study. It's not published yet, 197 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:10.960 so I'm trying to be respectful to their research. I don't really want 198 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.360 to talk about the results specifically, but and I also don't know exactly their 199 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.240 methods because they're just about to be published. They're finishing purity. But they 200 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:23.600 took I think something around one hundred unvaccinated women had them have close exposures to 201 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:30.759 vaccinated women, and they measured as an outcome changes in menstrual cycles or new 202 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:36.120 abnormal mencies, and from what I've heard, it's profoundly positive. We haven't 203 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:40.759 seen the study yet, but there is at least now a clinical study showing 204 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:45.039 that the shedding phenomenon is real and tied to symptoms. Again, i'd have 205 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.559 to look at the methods of exposure and duration, And also I'm really interested 206 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.320 to see because this is another question that comes up, like the women that 207 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:56.679 they were exposed to who were vaccinated, how long after the vaccine were they 208 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.039 exposed, Because that's the big question that comes up, Oh, doctor Corey, 209 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.119 how long do I have to worry about someone vaccine? And if you 210 00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:07.759 read through all of the clinical reports that are on my sub stack, the 211 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:12.240 numbers vary, I mean, or the people reporting these things. Some feel 212 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:17.000 like the sensitivity to shedding phenomenon is closer to the vaccine, like around two 213 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:22.519 weeks. Others report being able to know if someone's vaccinated and feeling symptoms from 214 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.759 them at any time after the vaccine. And so those are the concerning ones 215 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.960 especially, And it sounds like you've read the full thing. If you remember 216 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:34.960 the very detailed report from this woman in Australia who seemed extremely sensitive to shedding, 217 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:41.440 she states symphatically that they can shed all the time, at any time 218 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.039 after the vaccine, and that let me let me finish this answer with one 219 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.799 other other kind of point is that you know the question of who is subject 220 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:55.039 to falling ill from shedding, it's clearly not all of us, right, 221 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.400 So it's not me. I mean, I travel everywhere, having traveling two 222 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:02.440 years, I meet hundreds, if not that of people every month or six 223 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.880 months. I've never had any symptom that I could attribute to being exposed to 224 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:11.640 the spike protein. But I'm also I know myself, I'm very physiologically and 225 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.680 sensitive to like environmental elligens, pollutants, you know, even intoxicants like you 226 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.839 know I, or pharmaceuticals I never have any problem with. But you know, 227 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.640 when I've in my career, I kind of always put my patients in 228 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:26.480 kind of three categories, you know, one that are physiologically kind of resistant 229 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.440 to therapies, ever's affected therapists. Then there's the great middle. But then 230 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.119 there's this cohort that you have to be very gentle with, Like if you're 231 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.680 going to use pharmaceuticals, you have to use low doses, you have to 232 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:40.880 go slow. And I think it's that cohort of patients that's particularly sensitive. 233 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:47.519 And when I say sensitive, I mean sensitive to developing symptoms related to exposure, 234 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:49.559 because there's another category of things that I wear about. It's like, 235 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.880 okay, so I'm not sensitive. I don't get clinically ill being around a 236 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.680 vaccinated person, But what is being shed on me? What is being absorbed 237 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:00.400 into me? And what are the short and long time or implications beyond that 238 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.720 illness? And so I mean the huge questions around here which no one wants 239 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.839 to ask. Right when I say no, nobody in the authority wants to 240 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:14.200 ask. I mean this, this, this constant suppression of anything adverse around 241 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:18.160 the vaccines, you know, continues a pace. You know, it's interesting 242 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.440 a lot of our listeners have had similar issues, mostly women. I mean, 243 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.599 we could probably break that sensitive group down to men and women, right, 244 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.200 and mostly women. I think I think it's mostly if especially if you 245 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:33.559 look at the anecdotes, it's yes, it's the majority of women that we 246 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:37.599 have exceptions to that, but really absolutely the majority of women. This could 247 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:44.000 be a correlation, obviously, but when I started hearing people tell me about 248 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:47.599 their experiences which were similar to mine, I thought, well, okay, 249 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:53.359 we know that in the adverse effects, we're having lots of menstrual issues with 250 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:57.240 women, so the shedding issue, that would make sense, right, that 251 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:03.640 that would be correlated. And what was a little scary to me was if 252 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:08.000 the liquid nanoparticles settle in the ovaries of a vaccinated person, that kind of 253 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:14.400 busted my theory that it was only spike. And that's really terrifying. So 254 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.400 you know, you've got a woman that I think one woman on that sub 255 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:22.160 stack, doctor Corey, she went through menopause. She was finished in nineteen 256 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:29.279 ninety eight. Yep, and was a round a vaccinated person and started postmenopausal 257 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:33.160 bleeding. And I thought, that's terrifying because as you know, that postmenopausal 258 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.519 bleeding is either nothing or it's cancer. Cancer. Yeah, and there's actually 259 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.559 there was if I recall, there's more than one that reported you know, 260 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.359 resumption bleeding after being in menopause. But yes, you're right, there was 261 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:49.519 one woman who had menopause many years ago. But yeah, no, and 262 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:53.039 in the menstrual abnormalities that's kind of like the signal. But you know, 263 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.000 to your point, right, So if you worry about what shutting can cause, 264 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:00.559 I mean, it's very plain to say what ever the vaccine side effects 265 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:06.960 are in the vaccinated, that's what would be possible if shedding of those components 266 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.279 were possible. And so although most of the reports were menstrual, there is 267 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.920 quite a few. There's vertigo, headache, there's even some chronic fatigue syndrome, 268 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.640 and a couple couple of them became chronically ill after exposure. So it's 269 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.680 really any of the above. And so and we know that the list of 270 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:27.440 vaccine side effects and risks that it causes, you know, from cancer to 271 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:33.039 everything is increased. You know, I worry about me. And here's the 272 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:37.000 thing, right, I've been saying this recently, this vaccine story, it 273 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.640 can't get worse, Just when you think it can't get worse, Like we 274 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:45.519 just came off of like six weeks of a lot of us really calling out 275 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:49.759 and paying attention to the universal contamination of the vials with DNA plasmids right, 276 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:55.799 with strange sequences in them, really worrisome sequences that promote not only cancer or 277 00:21:55.799 --> 00:22:00.440 potential to promote cancer, but as well as also enhance integration into the genome, 278 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:04.160 right, the human genome. We're waiting on studies to see in the 279 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:10.000 vaccinated whether any of these sequence are in the cells of the humans. So 280 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.319 we still have lots of questions. But as if that wasn't worrying enough, 281 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.279 And during that I'm also doing my research on shedding. Then I find that, 282 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:18.440 like, not only shedding is real, that the science is real. 283 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.079 The regulators knew it. They were warning that you have to do studies. 284 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:25.880 We have too much clinical phenomenon. We have these studies which, like I 285 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:29.160 said, the one that's about to come out, which actually literally shows symptoms 286 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.759 developing after exposure. We have all the anecdotes, we have the antibody study, 287 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:38.759 and then that really worriesome correlation study of excess mortality and unvaccinated children, 288 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:45.839 and so it's the totality evidence is overwhelming. And so let's describe where we 289 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.359 are now. So we're living on a planet in the wake of a global 290 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:59.000 gene therapy vaccination campaign which were contaminated and the products as well as the components 291 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:03.559 themselves can be closed and either natural exosomes or synthetical lipid nanopart because despite route 292 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.559 in our body, it can be enclosed in an exosome. And here's the 293 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.160 thing about exoome is that they can be exhaled. They can be inhaled rapidly 294 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.920 absorbed. And so I'm worrying for myself, like what's going on. I 295 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:18.519 live in a world where everyone who got vaccinated now can have that transmitted, 296 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.319 right, And when you talked about self spreading vaccines, I mean that stuff 297 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:25.240 is real, right, Like I gave the example of the children with the 298 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:27.559 antibodies. I mean that's an example of the self spreading vaccines. And so 299 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.839 I think the amounts are small, but I don't know. I don't caterial, 300 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.920 so we don't know, no one's done a really clear quantitative study and 301 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:41.559 so, and it's such an easy study to do. Any lab could do 302 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.119 it. It's frustrating. I think the to your point about the spike, 303 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.440 you know, we talk about natural immunity, we talk about you know, 304 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:56.880 we say here often the best defense is a great offense, because what do 305 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.519 you do. We get your body healthy. You cut down on inflammation, 306 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.920 You try to eat as clean as possible, maybe do a fast or two 307 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:07.240 a month, you know, whatever you can do to help that cell respiration 308 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:14.279 and autophagy. Would you say it's accurate that the spike to your point about 309 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:19.319 being so pathogenic. Yep, the spike from the virus and the spike that's 310 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:23.079 produced by the mRNA, and I think they're molected. I think they're different, 311 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:29.519 but they both do the same thing. They wreak havoc, They find 312 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:36.240 or exploit current weaknesses. Is that accurate? Both spike proteins, even though 313 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:40.559 you're right, they're different. Right, because the viral spike protein has undergone 314 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:44.000 numerous mutations and variants, it's still a spike protein. It's still touches the 315 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:49.279 ACE receptor, and it's still capable of triggering a dozen pathogenic processes. So 316 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:53.480 yeah, they're both pathogenic, but they are different, somewhat different as far 317 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:57.200 as the protein surface, but they cause just a horrific amount of illness. 318 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:03.960 And you know, there's this incredible review paper published about a month ago now 319 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:08.759 by pariot Ol which literally introduces a term into the literature called spikeopathy. And 320 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.640 that paper is it's immense paper. I think it has like two hundred and 321 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:17.480 seventy references, but it goes through all of the in vitro data of what 322 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:19.599 the spike causes, you know, all the receptors that are triggers, all 323 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.920 the path of physical logic, you know, the impacts on the immune system, 324 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:27.039 the impacts on clotting, the impacts on vessel walls and endo, theliitis 325 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:32.720 and in the heart muscle, and it's it truly is astonishing that we're literally 326 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:37.960 vaccinating with a toxic pathogen. Period the science has been clear that is a 327 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.200 toxic pathogen, the spiked And not only that, we're not just injecting the 328 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:48.359 spike in a small amount, we're injecting the code to make spike without a 329 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.640 shutoff button, right. And that's the other thing I know is and that's 330 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.079 probably the most damning is the autopsy series from like Burkhart at Ol, from 331 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.759 the German pathologist who unfortunately is now deceased. But you know, he started 332 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:07.599 doing second opinion autopsies on patients whose families were convinced that the vaccine was the 333 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.319 cause of their death. And he did something that no system pathologists really around 334 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.519 the world is doing, which is he was staining for the presence of spike 335 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.720 protein and tissues. Right, it's a special stain, So you take the 336 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.480 tissue, you put it on slides, you apply these stains to look for 337 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.079 different cells. I mean, there's tons of different stains that pathologists use to 338 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.920 see what's really going on in the tissues. And he started staining for slike 339 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:36.240 berks, and he found spike disseminated everywhere brain, kidney, muscles, heart, 340 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:40.880 particularly the vessel walls. And of these people who died, many of 341 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:44.759 them young a oric dissections, you know, heart attacks, all sorts of 342 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:48.519 things. And so we know that some people turn into and I use the 343 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.440 term kind of spike factors. They make an awful lot of spike. And 344 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.440 I just can't believe this is where we are now. I mean, literally, 345 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:02.759 we're living in a world where we launched a barely tested novel technology that 346 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:07.720 has all of these words from contamination to shedding, and we chose a protein 347 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.480 that was toxic. Right. So they could have chose the nucleocaps it or 348 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.880 the envelope, right, But for whatever reason, they chose the spike. 349 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:19.000 And you know, the more cynical of us can debate whether that was willful 350 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:23.559 or reckless or an accident. I don't really care, because it just is. 351 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:29.079 Do you think that aside from being laughed at? Because I did call 352 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.519 the lab, I wanted them to test for spike in my biopsy mmm, 353 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:41.160 And well ostensibly there wasn't enough tissue to do that. So and I get 354 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.680 that that might be valid or they just maybe had no clue because this was 355 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.480 a year and a half ago. So I don't know. Maybe if more 356 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:53.839 people start asking, you know, they might just get Heismand but I don't 357 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:59.519 know, do you think do you think that's worth our time? Well, 358 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.160 you know, I'm not in the system anymore, but from what I understand 359 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.359 that they're not doing that. The corners aren't doing that, and that's willful. 360 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.039 I mean, you know, as Ryan Cole says, you can't find 361 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:14.640 what you don't look for and I clearly don't want to find and tell people 362 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.559 that they're you know, I do know of a number of cases where there 363 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.440 are a couple of pathologist who, like Ryan, does them as a second 364 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:25.680 opinion, And there are cases of cancers where they're finding spike all within the 365 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:29.640 cancer. And so I mean those that have done it, it's absolutely alarming. 366 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.759 It's including Burkhart. So but yeah, I don't know that the average 367 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:36.759 person can ask a pathology department to do a stain for it. Maybe you 368 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:40.440 can, maybe you can't. I don't know. So Lastly, doctor Corey, 369 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.880 when I had my event, I got on ivermectin, I had a 370 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.000 thing of ivermectin. I did everything I do for colds or whatever. I 371 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.640 did the quercetin and the zinc. And you know all that that is on 372 00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:02.839 the eye prevent is that the eye prevent absolutely Okay, So can you direct 373 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.279 people maybe where to go if they're experiencing this what to do? Look, 374 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.559 I don't think people want our freaking out, but it's concerning, and we 375 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.799 just want to know over what we have control. Yeah, and yes, 376 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.480 it's always uncomfortable to bring forth a major problem without a solution, and I 377 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.440 wouldn't call I prevent a solution, it's a suggestion. I mean, we 378 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:30.920 chose really safe pharmaceuticals and nutraceuticals that really great safety profiles, have excellent mechanisms 379 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:36.480 of action pharmacological macros which really counteract some of the path of physiology. And 380 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.880 so we're just kind of putting out there like if your word or getting symptomatic, 381 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:41.960 do these things, and if you see in a lot of not a 382 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.960 lot, but in quite a few of the anecdotes, people will share what 383 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:51.799 they took and that's helped them. Especially that Australian woman clearly ivermactin was really 384 00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.480 helpful a blocking a lot of the symptoms, and there's great reasons for that. 385 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:59.000 I mean, it's a tightly binding one of the more tightly binding compounds 386 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.920 to the spike proteins, so if it binds to it, I hopefully would 387 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.799 mitigate any further press So that seemed that it helped. I saw a few 388 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.319 reports on nato khanes, which is another one which is proteolytic it breaks down 389 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:12.200 the spike and so those are like suggestion, but again just like we don't 390 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:17.240 have good clinical data on shedding. You know, these are just kind of 391 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.119 supportive and we know that they're helpful. Some of them are helpful in the 392 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.160 qw COVID from trials, but yeah, this is a different aspect, but 393 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.920 yeah, I would. And some of those are just really good supplements. 394 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:29.440 Like I'm on Nato khanes, not because I'm worried about shedding, it's just 395 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.839 an excellent supplement. It reduces the rates of ethroscoring, heart disease, hypertension, 396 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.079 it's anti inflammatory, it breaks down spike and so it's kind of in 397 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.240 my little supplement regimen. So these are things that like you could take for 398 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.799 shedding specific or just because they promote health. Right, excellent. Well, 399 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.079 we want to thank you, and can you share with our audience where to 400 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.799 find your sub stack? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. So first off, 401 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.920 maybe I should say the I Prevent Protocol is that FLCCC dot net, right, 402 00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.640 So that's my part, that's our nonprofit organization. My substack is Medical 403 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:06.480 Musings or peer coreymedical musings dot com. And there's a whole series on shedding 404 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.359 there and then I'm just gonna put it out there. I mean, I 405 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.039 have a private practice which is the leading edge clinic. It's doctor Peercore dot 406 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:18.240 com and that's all me and my partners do is we've been figuring out trying 407 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.759 to help people with vaccine injuries, long COVID and long backs, and we've 408 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.720 learned a ton in the last couple of years and we're learning every day, 409 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.160 every week and again with no help, right, no help. You've seen 410 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.039 the research response by the government. It's literally not one patient has been rolled 411 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.039 in a long COVID trial and there's no long vas right that doesn't exist. 412 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.480 It's all right, right, of course, So but anyway, forgive me 413 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.960 for I complain. But anyway, that's that's where you can find me the 414 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.720 substack as well as the nonprofit and you know where we have our guidance. 415 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.119 Oh, thank you for that. We're gonna we're gonna hope that our listeners 416 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:57.279 review that series hopefully become paid subscribers. And you, indeed are the evolving 417 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:01.039 expert. So you want to thank you again for everything you're doing, your 418 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:07.119 research, your drive to do no harm. I mean that first and foremost 419 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.559 makes you an expert and we appreciate it, and we hope you'll come back, 420 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.519 and we thank you for your time today anytime. Thanks nice to take 421 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.680 care, Okay, I want to encourage everyone again to please visit Pierre Coreymedical 422 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:29.400 Musings dot substack dot com and please consider becoming a paid subscriber. These guys 423 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:34.000 have, like many, sacrificed a lot. Doctor Corey and his colleagues, 424 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:39.599 they've made it their life mission to help those who've been most physically and biologically 425 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:45.640 abused, let's just call it what it is, by these bioweapons. And 426 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:53.519 they've gotten nothing but grief from the majority of their profession who continue to coward 427 00:32:53.519 --> 00:33:01.680 a big pharm of bullies and by extension, continue to do arm. And 428 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.440 it's it's inspiring to speak with these people, I got to tell you. 429 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:15.200 And when you're boggled down with information overload, you're boggled down with life because 430 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:21.039 we've all got stuff going on. And then you meet someone like doctor Corey 431 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:30.119 and his colleagues and they're lucid, they're curious, and they genuinely want to 432 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:36.240 help people. And I got to tell you that's uh. You know, 433 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:42.559 I'm not a I'm not a preacher, but I wonder if those people and 434 00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:49.440 we all know them and we all aspire to be like them, if that's 435 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:54.400 not the reason why we haven't been completely obliterated yet because Lord knows we deserve 436 00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:04.519 it. And so if that's the case, I have to again ask myself, 437 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.480 do you want strategic retreat? You just want to go to your mountain 438 00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:15.719 and quit. Yeah, there are days that I do, but I think 439 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:22.119 they incentivize others to remain engaged in whatever realm you're supposed to make a difference. 440 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.920 And so again I always appreciate doctor Corey coming on the program. All 441 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.559 right, y'all, that's it for today. I want to thank you all 442 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.480 for listening. I want to thank you as always to magic Man Joe Strecker 443 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.320 until next time, who will stand at either hand and keep the bridge with 444 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.159 me. Have a great day.