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Steve Rivera and Jacob Salis they have
their Eye on the Ball on Tucson Sports

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Stage Chef Fox Sports fourteen fifty talk
about Tie on the Ball. I'm your

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host, Jagan Zalas. Steve my
buddy, Stea Rivera is on the road

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headed to Phoenick for their Alabama I
almost forgot where he was going for the

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Alabama Arizona game coming up tonight at
nine o'clock. You can catch it on

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ESPN, or you can listen to
our first hour guest, Ryan Hanson doing

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the game with Brian Jeffries on Wildcat
Sports twelve ninety, the competing station with

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us, but nonetheless friendly. So
all right, so we've got to do

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have some breaking news to cover for
with you, and it's not all recruiting

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stuff. So well, we're about
ready to lisis Eye on the Ball breaking

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news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
All right, we did a few little

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recruiting tap bits to come in here. But some of the big news of

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the day is that Oregon State and
Washington State are taking their non football sports,

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including men's and women's basketball, over
to the West Coast Conference. From

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a basketball standpoint, they're gonna be
in there with Gonzaga and that that group

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of teams. But football is gonna
stay separate. They're gonna play a mount

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West Conference schedule this next school year, but at least for the twenty four

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to twenty five academic year, the
the other sports are going to be in

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the West Coast Conference. I can't
believe it's come to that. There's just

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no PAC twelve. It's gone.
Unbelievable, it's gone, the last remnant

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of it. That's that's one of
the all time bungle jobs in sports history.

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Yeah, you're not gonna get an
argument for me. That's crazy.

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That got butchers went from it went
from all right, they're just working on

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a TV contract this, and then
there's just no conferences gone. It's gone.

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It's just like that. It's dissipated
in a year. Yeah, it's

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unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. So
again in Oregon State, Washington State,

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they've got seven Mountain West Conference games
next year. They're not part of the

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conference championship or anything like that.
They've got, you know, other games

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to fill in their twelve game schedule. I suppose they're considered group of five

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if it comes to play. I
don't know what I don't think that the

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that the college football playoff has decided
where they fit. Let's say one of

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them goes undefeated. Did they get
in a twelve team playoff? I assume

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that right, Yeah, they'd have
to. Yeah so, but I bet

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you they'll treat them like Notre Dame, like an independent, as an independent,

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yeah, but not not like Notre
Dame in that if they go all

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right, in the fact that I
think it would happen, for sure,

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get into you're gonna be considered closer
to a group of five team than a

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you know, a true independent.
Uh. Fortunately, we don't have any

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any news from that awful incident up
and up in Vegas today, but I

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have to mention that that's just still
something to me that's just unbelievable. It's

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just unbelieved. I still I'm still
trying to wrap my head around around what

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all of that is. What are
you gonna say? There were more details

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that came out about it that he
that will that he's being charged with kidnapping

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now because he can he outed.
No, I don't think he's getting murder

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charge. I what I read that
was they gave him a deal, saying,

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hey, if you give us the
details on your ex girlfriend. Now

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we will just charge you with Oh, they won't charge you with the murder.

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Correct, Well, they wanted all
the details on her. Okay,

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I'm gonna have to I have to
take at the break looked that up,

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because that is I can't imagine anyway. Okay, let's get past that.

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We did report extensively on on the
sudden departure of of uh, the south

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Point coach suth point from I don't
I don't know football. I'm sorry,

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that's not why you brought me in
here. Come on, you can't show

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up with the breaking news topic and
you don't know the person's name. I

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had him, I had him.
Uh, next move on. Anyways,

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they pat Ryding, who's who's been
a local coach? He's uh, he's

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he's been assistant at Pima. Eric
Rogers is the guy who left. He's

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left sudden, just suddenly resigned,
uh, he said in a statement.

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He announced to be with his family. But pat Ryding, he's been he's

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been a coach here in town,
I included at south Point. He's been

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hired to be the south Point football
coach. A program that's been pretty good,

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even even recently. So Pat right
in the new the new coach at

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South Point on the on the recruiting
side of it, Uh, Dan walkin

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a USA today ranks Dion Sanders and
Colorado is having the best transfer portal recruiting

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class or transfer that means something,
class, which is that means something.

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There's all these rankings, just like
our high school rankings. You now have

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portal. Where did they? Where
did he have all miss? Look,

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let's see if they have done the
list? Uh, because Ole Miss has

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gotten some dudes. Yeah. Uh, well, this story is about Dion,

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so it's about Colorado. Gotcha.
I can't say what the what the

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recruiting ranks. That's by Dan Wilkin
again past guest to the show. Not

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on the not moving up on the
recruiting rankings as Florida, who in the

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last few weeks has lost three five
start players uh and and three four star

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players. Five of those are flips
and one is saying he's not signing today

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and he may not sign. Florida
is is quickly becoming Nebraska, very quickly

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becoming Nebraska. And when you've got
Oklahoma and Texas moving in over this year,

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you know they're dropping some rungs and
uh, and it's not. It's

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not going to Nebraska though they got
the number one kids in the country.

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They did. They got the number
one transfer to a Dylan No transfer,

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he's a he's a quarterback. Oh
yeah, the recruit he was he was

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flip from Georgia. Well, he'd
flipped from Ohio State and then to Georgia

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and now and he went to like
four different high schools. I don't I

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don't know. Again at a recruiting
is different. It's it's way different now

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and the stuff that you got to
deal with. But that definitely something that

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has gotten kind of crazy. Okay, we're slipping over to the NBA because

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Shaq last night, uh Shaquille O'Neal
on the NBA of Post Games d after

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this great shot that Steph Curry made
to win the Game of all he shout

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into the raptors said he deserves to
be in the conversation or the greatest NBA

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player of all time, not just
not just the top like the greatest.

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Okay, what do you go first? What do you think? No?

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No, what? No, He's
not the greatest NBA player for sure,

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but does he deserve to be?
Can you be in the conversation. Yes

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you say yes, yes, I'm
not. I don't know he is maybe

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yeah, No, he's the most
influential influential basketball player maybe ever, certainly

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since Michael Jordan. No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Michael Jordan didn't change the game like
Steph Curry's changing game. That okay,

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all right. Teams play differently,
teams construct rosters differently because of inlet

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player players played. Let me simplify
this. Okay, let me simplify this.

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People, after Steph Curry teams and
organization gms, they finally realized that

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three points are worth more than two. Okay, it took him a lot

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of time to figure that three is
worth more than two. But the game

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is different. It is different.
It is different. And when you think

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about guys like you know, well
again you go to the fact that you

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know, a guy like Zach Edy
basically has no future in the No,

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he doesn't, because the center can't
be a guy who plays with us back

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to the back, be Anthony David
make shots. It's got to be Anthony

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Davis. It's got to be a
guy, maybe not quite Kevin Durant,

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but somebody who's got some of those
capabilities to step out, make shots,

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run the floor. He can't be
a two hundred and ninety pound guy running

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up and down the Zach Eady would
have been the number one draft pick last

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year and he or if sorry,
if this was two thousand and one,

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Zach Ei he would have been the
number one draft back. Well, he's

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not gonna get drafted last year,
you know, I mean, it's it's

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possible that from a back to the
basket kind of guy, that DeAndre Ayton

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had to be the most athletic non
you know, I know what you mean,

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center. You know that that plays
that game as opposed to the step

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out of the Anthony Davis game.
Well as athletic as anybody could be.

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And he's just kind of a so
so guy in the NBA. He wasn't

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with the Sons. That's kind of
a common misconception. DeAndre Ayton was really

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good with the He's now becomes social
because the trail lasers are dog water.

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Yeah, but with the Suns,
he was very good. Yeah, but

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he wasn't. He was he was. I mean, let me look this

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up, but he no, I
hear you, But again not he's not

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the what the what the NBA teams
are looking for anyway, Yes to no,

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he yes, I mean he's not
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He does step out and shoot jumpers. He's not shooting threes, right,

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but he isn't Zachy if that makes
sense. Yeah. Yeah, so

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I mean, look he Okay,
last year he ever eighteen points and ten

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rebounds. Okay, give me five
players who are in the conversation as the

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greatest NBA players, Okay, Michael
Jordan, Lebron, James, Kareem Abdul

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Jabbar, Larry Bird, and Magic
Johnson. Kobe. Steph is better than

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Kobe. Okay, all right,
I'll accept that. I'll accept that I

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didn't even say Steph is better than
Larry Bird. Yeah, I'll accept that

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Steph might be better than Magic Johnson. Certainly a better shooter than all of

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those guys. Yeah, I mean, you know he of course he's not

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the best player. But you can
talk about him up there. Yeah,

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Like at what number? Is it
legit? Yeah? To say, like

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is he not one? Not two? Yeah? Are there ten guys in

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the conversation? Are there eight guys
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It's two realistically, But like when
you're talking about the best of all

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time. He's in there. He's
one hundred percent. Okay, so you

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know you can go you can go
to anyone of a bunch of numbers.

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You go to ten and say,
okay, if Steph Cray is going to

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move into the top ten, who
you who you're kicking out? Oh God,

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I don't know. Yeah right,
I mean he's easily top ten.

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Yeah, we could sit in here, name ten. I think he's closer

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to five than he is the ten. Is it closer to five than he

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is the one? Yeah? Is
he three? Uh no, probably not

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yet, so he's four or five? Yeah? Maybe. I mean I'd

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have to look at all this.
I don't think it's completely unreasonable to say

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he's in the discussion for one of
like the best of all time. He's

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one of the greatest of all time
for sure. Is he the best of

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all time? No? No,
not, but he's you know, certainly.

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You know, I love what It's
crazy, like you know, everybody,

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a lot of people talk about lebron
and losing titles. Most of these

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guys like a Michael Jordan a they
didn't run into another player like Steph Curry

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at the same time. You know
what I mean like Jordan got BYRD and

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Magic Johnson at the end of their
careers, right, exactly, that's true

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too, Lebron James ran into peak
Steph Curry. Yeah, so they split

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the titles. I don't know.
Yeah, so Steve Rivera who's on the

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road, says, would not Steve
Kirby be the influencer he constructed the formula

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to use Steph in that offense.
Sure, but you need someone to do

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it. Yeah, exactly, you
obviously do. I mean in the end,

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I mean, right, coaches coaches, Steve recognizing that coaches get too

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much credit and too much uh the
opposite blamee. Yes, the players play

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the game. They get too much
credit, too much play. But you

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know Steph Curry was playing for Mark
Jackson, Mark Jackson, and he wasn't

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Steph Curry. Steph Curry becomes Steph
Curry, Yes, after Steve Kurr.

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Uh. Yeah, but again that
Steph Steph Curry was like in his third

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year, fourth year in the league. He yes, Steve curR is very

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influential, but the players got to
make thee The players play. Steph Curry

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is what Steve Kurk could have been
if he had athletic ability. Sure,

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I hope he didn't hear that,
or I never plays that for him.

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He would never come up. He
would, he would say that he would,

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you would. Yeah, but it's
again, this is a conversation that

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you'll never ever get to a consensus
no on any of it. I thought

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it was interesting that Shaq would go
on publicly, you know, which is

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crazy because older basketball players hate current
basketball players. Yeah, they think they

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all suck. They think all they
do, all they want to do is

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launch three. But not just sad. It's like, oh, they couldn't

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last in you know, the eighties
and nineties, and I mean when we

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play it, but when when when
they can knock you on your butt?

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Not? But yeah, they oh
so much physical back then. I mean

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sure, if that's what you want
to call it, exactly, exactly.

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All right, that was fun discussion. Okay, we'll be back. We're

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going to have Matt Morano from Rivals
at Goysycats dot com. I'll get into

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some of the specifics of the Arizona
recruiting class, what he thinks of it

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and and wear it rates, and
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that Alabama Arizona game tonight up at
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who's uh, this is kind of
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Signing Day. How you doing?
I'm doing pretty good. That's fine.

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That's exactly the way I explained to
somebody who's trying to figure out, like

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what to day? Why, what's
the significance of today? I'm like,

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well, just think of it as
like the super Bowl of recruiting, and

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that's essentially what it is. But
yeah, it's been a long day,

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but you know, always obviously lots
of excitement for a lot of programs,

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including Arizona exactly. So well,
let's get to let's get to Arizona first.

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We'll get if we have a chance, we'll get to some of the

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other stuff. But just overall,
I'll just throw it out there, how

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do you think Arizona did today?
You know, obviously it's hard to compare

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it to not compare it to what
you knew the class could have been at

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one time when you're talking about Elijah
Rushing Killina will Height being part of this

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group at one point in time,
and some of the guys that you eventually

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found their way to other schools.
But when you look at what Arizona wanted

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to accomplish and how they've pieced this
thing together, there's a lot of really

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strong pieces to this group, and
led by Demal Williams, the quarterback who

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feels like very much the quarterback of
the future for Arizona. He's someone that

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Arizona, Jimmy Doherty Jetfish have had
their eye on really since they arrived in

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Tucson. Demon Williams has been,
you know, a big time playmaker up

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at Basha in Chandler, and that
thought was, like, I think they're

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going to have a good chance with
him, and he always talked highly of

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the program, always talk about his
relationship with both Jimmy Doherty and Jetfish,

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and it felt like Arizona was gonna
have a really, really good shot.

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And he commits to ole myths and
you go, okay, well maybe not.

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But Arizona kind of circled back and
fall a part of old myths with

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with Demon and he decided you want
to stay a little bit closer to home,

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and that's a huge, huge win
because he's a very talented player.

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He fits right in with what Arizona
wants to do, and that's kind of

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the crown jewel of the class.
But there's some other really nice pieces and

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maybe to the kind of casual fan, it's not going to look the same

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as that class that had T Mac
and Noa Fafida and you know, Jacob

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Manu and all these types of players. But there's there's no quality within this

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group, and I think it's more
about, you know, finding pieces to

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fit in and kind of fill the
gaps as opposed to kind of making drastic

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changes like they had to do with
that class with t Mac and a lot

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of those guys. They needed that
class to, you know, build this

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thing the way they want. So
it maybe doesn't have the same appeal as

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some of those classes, but you
know, if you really take a deeper

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look at it, there's some there's
some quality talent within this group, and

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I think a lot of guys who
are going to spend a lot of time

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on the field for Arizona. How
important is it for Arizona to get not

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only you know this guy out of
Arizona, but this guy is your quarterback

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of the future, and I mean
that's the kind of the top of your

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class. Yeah, I mean that's
huge. And I think within the state,

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obviously, Jet Fish has really kind
of made it a point to try

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and win the state, and the
state's gonna, I think, start to

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do this thing a little bit more
within state guys and maybe make a little

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bit more of an impact there than
the previous staff with the Sun Devils.

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So it makes it a little bit
more difficult. But for Arizona, I

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think they've kind of been more established
with Jet Fisher of hey, we want

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you guys to stay home, and
so I think that's helped. I think

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he saw that in this class in
particularly at one point in time, there

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was no other program in the country
that had more in state commitments in Arizona,

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more commitments from Arizona than you know
they in state schools. So in

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terms of the top twenty, guys
kind of fell apart a little bit,

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but still you end up with Dylan
Tapley, who was committed to AFC at

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one point. We have him,
you know, inside the top ten of

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the Arizona state rankings at rivals,
the Monllalliams obviously mentioned, and then you

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got guys at Apollo, which is
a very you know, really good group,

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and I think all those guys are
gonna have a shot to play as

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well. So, you know,
I think kind of it's it's it's important

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now, but it's even more important
for the future because if the Mollolliams has

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success, and other guys around Arizona
who knowing him, He's a very popular

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guy, people know him, know
them well from around the you know,

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some of the bigger schools in the
state, high schools in the state.

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If he goes to Arizona and does
well, I think it's only going to

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resonate with a lot of those other
prospects within the state to go, hey,

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I think I need to take a
deeper look at what you know uo

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A is doing and maybe take another
trip down to Tucson and see what we'll

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see what it's about. You know, I think that's going to be really

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big for Arizona in terms of in
state recruiting. And then you know,

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even as he as he spread out
a little bit and you go regently,

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you know, if he has success, you can see it now with no

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Fafida, I think there's a lot
of recruits that are looking at Arizona and

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seeing what guys like t mac and
Nofafida and Jacob Monu and some of the

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other players that you know are from
the West Coast what they're doing at Arizona

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right now. I think they're seeing
what they like what they see and they're

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going, Okay, I need to
take a deeper look at this program.

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And I think, you know,
there's still a couple outstanding, you know,

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recruits out there that are still looking
at Arizona that could sign. But

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you know, before the end of
the week the signing everything's kind of focused

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on signing day, but there's a
three day period here where recruits have until

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Friday to sign and decide, and
there's a couple other guys that could potentially,

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you know, make that move as
well, and so you know,

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I think it's all good things.
But yeah, having somebody at that position

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who's the highest traded guy is going
to be a good thing for Arizona,

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not only you know, this upcoming
year, but in years to come.

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And people also forget there's a whole
other signing period, the original signing day

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in February. But sticking with Demon
Williams, what is Arizona's pitch to him?

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Because you know, uh Fafitas a
freshman, he's a freshman. They

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got the kid from Colorado? Yeah, still sitting here. So how do

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you get a kid like that?
Because I mean nowadays, like you want

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to play right away, and you're
gonna have to keep recruiting him to stay

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there. Even I talked to the
we were talking earlier, like you recruit

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a kid, they commit, they
sign, You got to keep recruiting him

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for four years. So what is
Arizona's pitch to demand if they've got a

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quarterback who's a freshman this year?
I will you know. Jeffresh talking Rivals

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today a little bit about it,
and he was talking about development because he

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was asked that question of like,
it's a difficult spot for coaches to be

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in because every coach will tell you, hey, I want four or five

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scholarship quarterbacks, like especially if you're
an offensive minded coach, like you want

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as many quarterbacks as you can on
your roster, and so but it's just

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in this day and age, it's
so difficult to do because of those reasons

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that you mentioned that you know,
players feel like they have other opportunities,

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and the transfer portal kind of makes
that a reality for them where they can

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kind of see what else is out
there, and more often than not,

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they're going to find a spot that
will take them. So it is a

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difficult spot to be in. But
I think the thing that Jeed Fish when

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you listen to him talk about the
situation and talk about you know what it's

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going to look like, I think
he kind of focuses on development, and

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I think he can point to someone
like, no, if if he didn't

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say, look he waited a year, he didn't come in and you know,

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play right away as a true freshman
and take over the starting job,

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he took his time, and now
look what he's done. And so even

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if it's a you know, a
year grace period where you can go,

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you can have that built in where
you know, player will say, Okay,

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I'll wait a year, I'll develop
over the course of the year and

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I'll work on my skill set and
I'll learn the system and into what you're

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teaching me. I think, you
know, I think if you can buy

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that and have that afford that time, you know, I think it has

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a longer staying power, and so
I think for someone like Themaloin is to

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take you can come in. You're
really great, You're a very good player

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right now, You've accomplished a lot
of things. You've put up monster staffs

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as a high school player. But
you know, the college game is a

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different level. And so I think
you really sell him on development, and

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that's what it sounds like has been
the pitch to him, and I know

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he's talked about that a lot,
even going back a couple years when Ariz

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when I really first started to get
involved, when he was taking his early

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visits and looking at his options,
he talked about the development and I think

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the draw for jett Fish and he
talks about this for a reason. He

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has those connections to the NFL,
and I think there's a lot of trust

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in who he is and what he's
seen and who he's worked with in the

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past. That gives a lot of
quarterbacks, in particular, you know,

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a reason to want to stick around
because they feel like, hey, this

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is the person that can get me
to that next level. And you know,

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everybody who's signing today doesn't matter if
they're a five star guy, a

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two star guys. Our guy they
all believe that, you know, if

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they're playing college football, especially at
the high level, they feel like they

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can get to the NFL and that's
their ultimate goal. So I think that

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00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.000
resonates with a lot of players,
and I think for someone like Demalllians,

406
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.480
it's like, hey, if you're
just fishing, tells, hey, you

407
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:15.640
can trust me. I've been to
the next level. I know what it

408
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.599
takes. Be patient, and we'll
get you there. And I think that's

409
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.519
kind of where kind of the pitch
centers around. Yeah. To me,

410
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that shows kind of where coach Finish
and the whole staff are right now.

411
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.119
They are able to get a Demon
Williams and tell him, hey, like

412
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.960
come in and develop first, like
they didn't pitch to him, You're gonna

413
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:34.960
play right away. That shows you
the kind of trust that these guys happened

414
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.680
to him and the staff. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean that's that's a

415
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.400
huge deal. Yeah, you know, and in his comments about Williams,

416
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.920
he talked about the fact that you
know, he showed his film to you

417
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:51.359
know NFL, you know, quarterback
and head coaches and offensive coordinators and that

418
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:56.440
when Demon Williams knows he's getting that
visibility again that's obviously a selling point.

419
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.920
One of the things that he did
talk about was, you know, sort

420
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:06.880
of the as you mentioned, you
know, it's not the it's not the

421
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.000
the marquee class that where they just
had to go get it great players at

422
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.119
all the positions that they were out
there filling needs. It's sort of a

423
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.599
you know, you get to a
certain point and maybe they're there a little

424
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.680
earlier than any of us expected.
That they're just now filling gaps as opposed

425
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.400
to revamping a piece of the team
like they did with the offense and the

426
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:32.680
defense in the in the last two
years. You know, is that you

427
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.880
know, when you when you look
at it that way. Look, we

428
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.319
were all excited when Arizona had,
you know, a top ten recruiting class

429
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.799
and all that kind of stuff.
Well they don't anymore. But they don't

430
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.640
need to have that class if they're
just filling holes and keeping guys that they

431
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.880
have that are good. That's sort
of what where Jedfish kind of hung us

432
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:55.160
at today. That last part,
I think is the most important, because

433
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.720
you have to be realistic. If
you're in Arizona, you don't have the

434
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:02.000
deep pockets like Texas A and M
or in Oregon, you don't. You

435
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.160
can't. Or you can go out
and recruit five stars all they want and

436
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.960
keep those guys rolling in and not
care if five stars leave. Arizona is

437
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.519
just not in a position to do
that right now. And so you know,

438
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:12.880
if you recruit over a guy like
t Mac, he's going to go,

439
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.559
hey, see you later, and
you're not going to necessarily have you

440
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.000
know, the nil means to keep
someone like that or to replace someone like

441
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.799
that right away. It took a
lot to get a player like that to

442
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.160
Arizona in terms of just effort and
resources and all those things. And so,

443
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.799
you know, I think if you're
Arizona, it's a little bit of

444
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.680
a delicate situation. I think that's
why you're seeing the class that looks like

445
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.599
this because you know, I think
you know, Arizona and Jetfish and this

446
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.400
staff have proven themselves as recruiters.
They think they can go out and get

447
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.200
guys. But I think there's I
think there's a kind of a deliberate element

448
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.400
to how this class came together,
and that you understand that a lot of

449
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:51.000
your top playmakers still have a year
to play at least potentially a couple of

450
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:52.839
years, and so there is that
element of like, you can't scare those

451
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.559
guys off because you can't necessarily it's
difficult. It was difficult to get them

452
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.079
to Arizona in the first place.
You can't necessarily replace from that that easily.

453
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.720
And yes, Arizona's on the rise. I do think it's a very

454
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.440
desirable place for a lot of recruits
to look at. But I think there's

455
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.000
that kind of delicate balance that jet
Fish and staff have kind of had to

456
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.839
deal with, and that you have
to recruit and build for the future,

457
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.880
but you can't necessarily run anybody off
either, because it's just a difficult situation

458
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.160
to be in. Because you know, you're talking about NFL those three letters

459
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:23.720
matter, but NIL matters as well, and that's kind of a big part

460
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.720
of this equation that hasn't been part
of it, you know, maybe even

461
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.440
you know, five ten years ago. That is a very big factor and

462
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.000
a lot of the decisions that you're
seeing made right now, and there's there's

463
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.400
been some head scratchers in terms of
guys flipping on signing day, and you

464
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.759
go, I can kind of pinpoint
exactly why that situation played out the way

465
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.279
it did because you look at maybe
where they were committed to, and you

466
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.759
go that that fits you a lot
more than what the school you're going to

467
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.440
now. And when you look at
at school like Oregon flipping someone from USC

468
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.480
or you know, just different schools, or Maryland, you know, flip

469
00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.440
potentially flipping a recruit from Colorado,
you know, it's just it's kind of

470
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.319
pin points to one thing, and
so it's all these things matter, and

471
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.720
I think for Arizona it's a situation
where you kind of have to have that

472
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.680
little bit of a delicate balance to
make sure that you're keeping everyone happy that's

473
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.039
on the team because they got you
to this point, they got you to

474
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.559
nine and three, and you got
to make sure they're just as happy as

475
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.319
the incoming recruits. Right. Okay, so you mentioned something, but that's

476
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:23.200
something new to this whole thing.
Are you, as your developing conference ratings,

477
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:28.119
are you comparing to Arizona is Big
twelve this year or the PAC twelve?

478
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.359
It should be looked at the Big
twelve rivals. We still kind of

479
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.720
are looking at the PAC twelve until
the TAC twelve was officially completely done and

480
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.400
did, which I think many people
would say it is now. But yeah,

481
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:43.160
you definitely have to start looking at
the Big twelve, and you know

482
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.680
where Arizona is going to be stacking
up. And I think that's Jetfish talked

483
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.720
about this as well. Where I
think the thing is they still feel like

484
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.200
they're a West Coast program, and
I think that's going to be the big

485
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.640
sell. I think you're going to
continue to see them recruit California heavily and

486
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.359
you know, kind of continue to
maybe go a little bit east and then

487
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.519
get into tech just even a little
bit more as you make this transition to

488
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.160
the Big twelve. But yeah,
I mean I think you have to look

489
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.359
at them now in comparison to know
how they look to against Baylor and some

490
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.960
of these other schools that are in
the you know, in the Big twelve,

491
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.799
and obviously Utah and if you're going
to be making that move as well,

492
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.319
and Colorado. But yeah, I
think it's I think you have to

493
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:21.720
start looking at them in that light. And and and I again I think

494
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:23.559
that they're right where they want to
be in terms of the development of the

495
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:28.160
program, and we'll kind of see
where thing has moved from here. But

496
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.920
I think the next class is going
to be the one where you really see

497
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.440
Arizona kind of ramp it up again
because it just kind of lines up with

498
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.000
you know, some of these players
are are going to be moving on and

499
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.640
some of those players that made this
ninety three record happen are going to be

500
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:44.680
leaving the program eventually and getting toward
towards the second half of their careers.

501
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.519
And so I think the next class
is going to be a really big one

502
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.359
fair zone. I think you're going
to see them kind of ramp it up

503
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.400
and really try and you know,
get some some top notch players and make

504
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.359
it look a little bit different than
what it looked like this year. So

505
00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.599
aside from the quarterback obviously, you
you mentioned the three guys from uh Apollo,

506
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.000
you know, the in state guys. You know who who do we

507
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.320
right the too early to who to
tell? Who are we going to see

508
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:12.559
on the field next year out of
this class? Yeah, I mean I

509
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.920
think, I really think someone like
Rashaan Clark, the Arizona was able to

510
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.719
flip him from Calis with Seattle recruit
I really had a good senior season.

511
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.920
Maybe you know, fans that aren't
as familiar with him because you know,

512
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.400
he was committed somewhere else for so
long. But you know, he just

513
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.599
I really like his game. I
think he has a lot to bring to

514
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.679
the table. He has good size. I could really play on either side

515
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.519
of the ball, to be honest, but probably gonna start out on defense.

516
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:37.559
I really like. But you know, just who he is is the

517
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.159
recruit. I watched him quite a
bit during the off season, in the

518
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:44.480
spring and some different events, and
I was really impressed by him. I

519
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.960
think he's going to be a really
intriguing prospect. And then I know there's

520
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.840
you know, a lot, there's
a lot, a lot of talent at

521
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.159
running back for Arizona, but Jordan
Washington, running back out of California Long

522
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.320
Beach, California, really put up
some gaudy numbers and it's just one of

523
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:00.400
those guys that just give him the
ball and you're like, oh, he's

524
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:06.280
gone, he's going for a touchdown. And so it's for having done this

525
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.920
for so long. The one thing
that continues to seem to translate is high

526
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:15.920
school production highly productive players, especially
in kind of talent rich areas like a

527
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.360
place like southern California. If you're
able to produce at a high level and

528
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.199
put up big numbers, it usually
carries over to the college game. That

529
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.880
was something that I saw at JJ
Taylor. I told a lot of people,

530
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.480
I said, I think he's going
to be really good. And he

531
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.840
won missed the California football and put
up just kind of insane numbers at the

532
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:36.039
high school level, and he wasn't
playing against lower level teams. He was

533
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.199
playing against good teams. And so
Jordan wa Washing's a little bit of a

534
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:42.920
different player. He's a track guy
and has a lot of speed to him,

535
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.519
and and I just I really like
what he brings to the tables well.

536
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:50.400
And again I just go back to
that production and you look at that

537
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.000
and to me, that's something that's
going to carry over. So I really

538
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.920
would look at him as someone to
potentially have a chance to get on the

539
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.559
field. But it'll be interesting to
see kind of how they're able to do

540
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:04.320
that with someone talent at the running
backs off so as important in recruiting as

541
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.199
not only the guys you get,
but the guys you keep of. Johnny

542
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.920
Nansen today said that Bill Norton is
coming back on the defensive line. That

543
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.519
means that's that's one less defensive line
guy that you got to go out and

544
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.320
get, at least for next year. How much does that mean to this

545
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.400
to this team and this program to
be able to keep a guy like that

546
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.239
in next FRA year. It's huge
because of the position. I think every

547
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.679
coach will tell you kind of across
college football, offensive and defensive line are

548
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:35.719
the most difficult spots to recruit too. It's just it's it's really difficult to

549
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.960
find everything that you want in that
position. A lot of times it's you

550
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.159
know, many of the things that
you want or some of the things that

551
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.320
you want, and you have to
try and develop the rest and kind of

552
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:47.519
make up that ground and make up
that gap in their skill set. It's

553
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:52.039
really difficult to find. Just play
especially defensive line is really difficult. You

554
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.159
know, there's only so many guys
that fit kind of the mold of what

555
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.519
coaches want, which is, you
know, a big guy who is also

556
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.480
fast and athletic. Like there's just
not that many guys like that, and

557
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.400
you know, if they're if they're
truly lee, you know they're going to

558
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.719
a handful of schools, so you
know, it's it's it's huge for Arizona

559
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.840
to be able to keep Bill Norton. I think, you know, just

560
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:14.519
at that position, it's so key
to have, you know, veterans,

561
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:15.840
to have players who have been to
the battles and know what they're doing,

562
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.760
we know the system, because it
just makes everything around them easier, and

563
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.880
it's going to make you know,
everybody's life around him easier. And so

564
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.480
that's huge. I mean, again
you mentioned it takes kind of the pressure

565
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.639
off of having to find someone like
that, you know, in recruiting our

566
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.719
he's always doing it in a transfer
portal in Arizona has been good about,

567
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.000
you know, doing that in transport, Bill Norton being an example of that.

568
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:39.280
But you know, to not have
to go try and find one of

569
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.639
those guys out of high school is
a is a huge advantage for Arizona and

570
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.239
I think a really big deal to
get Bill Norton to come back. All

571
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.920
right, Matt, Well, appreciate
all the insight, A lot of good

572
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.320
insight there on this class. And
again, you know you say kind of

573
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.159
a middle of the road class when
you talk about ratings and stuff like that.

574
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.000
But as Jeed said, feeling some
needs. We appreciate your analysis on

575
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.159
that triangle. Get some sleep now, man, will you I'll try,

576
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.000
I'll try, Okay with you guys, all right, thank you much.

577
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.000
That was Matt Marnino from Arrivals and
Goisycats dot Com talking about the classes.

578
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.039
You know, one of the guys
that just does this for a living,

579
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:20.159
and very well, very well first
on what this class and recruiting looks like

580
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:24.039
for Arizona. Big deal. All
right, okay, cool, all right,

581
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:27.119
let's take our break. We're to
come back. Well, love to

582
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Let me see if we can find
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see what's on his mind with this
game coming up tonight. Though. Well,

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with Steve Bravera A Gonzalez Block Sports
sporteen Welcome back time to the ball here

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on Pot Sports fourteen fiftgame'm your host
to take Gonzales sitting in with Steve on

646
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the road headed to Phoenix for the
Alabama Arizona Games tonight, a quote unquote

647
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neutral sport game that we played as
a footprint center of the Sun Arena up

648
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in Phoenix, but should be a
good one Alabama, although you know six

649
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and four not a great ranking,
but they're in a string of three straight

650
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Top ten games. I'm here with
Adam Gonzales, former sports information director at

651
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.679
Arizona, covering of football and as
well as other sports. Happens to be

652
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my son as well, but very
good at this and appreciate your beating here,

653
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.039
Adam. But you know, let's
say let's switch over to basketball.

654
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.920
You know, a big game tonight. What do you think UH need a

655
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:53.400
bounce back. Not to say that
I mean the Cats didn't play like great

656
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:59.599
against Perdue. I think Purdue just
straight up beat Arizona. They just played

657
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:02.559
better. Wasn't necessarily that Arizona.
What we'll get Steve. Steve's calling it

658
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:09.920
right now to stand by. Well, let's let's get this, so we're

659
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.440
we're on the air. Steve.
Okay, So okay, Adam. Well,

660
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.880
Adam was just getting to his thoughts
on on on what, you know,

661
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.440
what he thinks needs to happen.
I think Arizona need they need to

662
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.880
play better. Not to say they
were terrible against Purdue. There was a

663
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.480
ten to fifteen minute stretch where they
were pretty bad, especially on defense.

664
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:36.119
On the defensive end, But I
do think it would be nice to see

665
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.119
the Cats, you know, come
out, play better, play, more

666
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:43.960
of more of a complete game.
Yeah, where's your brain on this game

667
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.480
right now? Steve? As you're
headed up there, Well, I was

668
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:55.119
gonna Adam did he did he gonna
win against Purdue? And I'm a believer

669
00:44:55.320 --> 00:45:01.679
of styles make fight? Did the
style that Purdue play effect Arizona plays?

670
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.760
Did this not necessarily? I don't
think No, I don't. I don't

671
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.639
really think so. I think it
came down to they just they made shots.

672
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.440
That's what it comes down to,
in my opinion. And I think

673
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.840
that that's what we I think that's
what we talked about, Steve, that

674
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.119
you know these guys that you know
made all the you know, the two

675
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.920
guards that just killed them, you
know they don't they both had a great

676
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:30.800
day on the same day. If
one or the other doesn't have that kind

677
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.599
of a day, who knows where
this game winds up? Well, right,

678
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.920
No, Number I said that,
I don't know. At some point

679
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:43.360
in the in the year, Arizona
plays against some team where this dude,

680
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:45.800
this dude shows up and you don't
even know who the dude is, and

681
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.000
he shows up and he scored twenty
seven points. Well, it happens,

682
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.480
and it happens right. Washington State
was a toyist for that or last week

683
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:58.599
last year, Washington came to you
know, I mean things happened, but

684
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.199
you say, how did that happen? I don't think that's gonna happen to

685
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.639
night because one, they're coming off
a loss and and Alabama plays their style.

686
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.719
Yeah, we had we had Ryan
Hanson on and he said, they

687
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.960
play the style in the from the
from the standpoint of tempo, but they

688
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:20.599
kind of do it in a little
different way. And his his analysis was,

689
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.199
they don't have an Umar Ballow kind
of guy that's gonna, you know,

690
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:28.119
get into the paint and stay there. They're they're big guys step out,

691
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.760
uh and and they do it a
kind of a different way. But

692
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.119
nonetheless you're correct in terms of pace. They run up and down the floor.

693
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.800
And I do think there is there
is something to there being a good

694
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:43.480
loss. I don't think there is
such a thing as a good loss.

695
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:47.039
But in this situation for college basketball, when you're playing a non conference game

696
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:52.719
against Umber three team in Indianapolis,
you do get a chance to learn see

697
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.960
what you need to tweak a little
bit, and you you know, you

698
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:59.280
learn a little more from a loss
there than you probably would have with a

699
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:04.159
win. No question, I totally
agree with that. So another have you

700
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:08.119
got? Who is the must have
for Arizona to play well but to win?

701
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:14.559
Boswell? I'm I'm on Collin Kylin
Boswell as well. He's got to

702
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:17.519
play well. He did not have
a good game on Saturday. I think

703
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:23.079
even you know he's he's as they
say, the straw that stirs. But

704
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.440
you know, even when he's off
the court, you know he's he his

705
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.000
then they still have to feel his
influence, Like, okay, Colin bos

706
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.679
was about to come back in and
and you know, and and do what

707
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.679
Colin Boswell does? You know the
guys that come in for him, Jade

708
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:44.079
and Jaden Bradley kJ Lewis. You
know they come in to hold court to

709
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.320
kind of keep you know, keep
things in in uh not in check,

710
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:52.960
but just not do anything dumb.
Well Colin Boswell gets a blow and then

711
00:47:52.039 --> 00:48:00.559
comes back in. Uh oh,
you're we're ast you a little bit.

712
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.320
You're in a bad spot. So
adam, who's your guy? It's it's

713
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:08.599
also Boswell, I think, not
just from an Arizona standpoint, but from

714
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.639
a personal standpoint, I think he
wants to have a big time bounce back

715
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.119
game because I mean, he got
benched for a bit, and I think

716
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:19.880
he wants to, you know,
kind of play really well for himself,

717
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:23.039
for his psyche, but also to
get the Cat to win. Yeah,

718
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:30.360
so I guess they didn't make Cowa
yesterday. And see maybe Pale Larson was

719
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:35.440
the guy. Well that's what we
saw pay having my college. You know,

720
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.440
listen Paly Larson when when you're talking
about who has the best influence on

721
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:43.559
the team, he ross the board
that it's Pally Larson. And when he

722
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.760
plays bad, it's really bad.
Fair. That's a good point, but

723
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:51.199
right, right, so we'll see
what happening. I'm getting in the bad

724
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.679
spot, guys, I'm breaking up, okay, But Will chamber then,

725
00:48:53.719 --> 00:49:00.480
don't forget Will Chamberlain. Will Chamberlain
played against like you and me. He

726
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:07.599
was than everybody. He altered old
people, older people than you would know

727
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.360
that. I think that some of
the rules are changed because of him,

728
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:16.519
like the I I think your point
with with with Steph changing the way the

729
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.920
game is played, but Will back
back in the day, I think changed

730
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.880
things. True, Well, so
did George Miken. Well, he's on

731
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:31.280
the left to all right, Steve
work hard, Uh tryes sweeze in a

732
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:37.960
nap before the game and we'll talk
to you tomorrow. I puys. Okay,

733
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.480
have I ever talked to you about
how there's a theory out there that

734
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.320
Will didn't actually score one hundred points
in a game? What's the theory that

735
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.840
didn't actually happen and it didn't really
happen. There's no video? Yeah,

736
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:54.639
so somebody score book has Yeah,
there's like market actually who went to high

737
00:49:54.639 --> 00:50:00.440
school as well? Chamber Really Yeah, it was strangest thing because there weren't

738
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.559
a lot of tall guys around.
You know, back in the day you

739
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.599
have to duck his head to walk
into a classroom and all that kind of

740
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.639
stuff. But in uh, in
Philadelphia, it was a very interesting conversation

741
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.760
I have with that guy. But
getting back to the game tonight, you

742
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.360
know you're talking about you know it
needs it needs to be a bounce back,

743
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.920
for sure, you know that it
has to be that. But you

744
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.400
know, I mean, I think
Tommy to tell you across the board,

745
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:27.079
everybody's got to play better, got
to play better. You know, Caleb

746
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:30.559
Love had a great game, but
you know, nobody I think you can

747
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:36.800
argue that nobody played well defensively and
right, yeah, Saturday again, and

748
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.800
that's something that they're gonna have to
do. And maybe because you know,

749
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:44.159
Alabama runs up and down the court, Arizona, that's more in tune with

750
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.840
what Arizona what there guys like to
do. So maybe they'll play better defense

751
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.440
because of that. But you know, I don't know, you know that

752
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:58.199
I think over under one hundred and
seventy five points, what do you think?

753
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.639
Yeah? I mean go over?
Why would you bet an under on

754
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:07.519
this? Why would why? Why
would you sit there and plug your nose

755
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.119
watching Arizona and Alabama saying hope the
sun goes under. That's all it is.

756
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:17.039
You're plugging your nose and hoping it's
certainly going to be you know again,

757
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:22.159
you know a game that it has
some attention. Uh you know,

758
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.960
I know it's very late for the
East Coast and they most of them won't

759
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:30.199
watch it comes on eleven o'clock.
Grow up and stay up, but watch

760
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.800
much basketball. It'll get talked about
tomorrow when they for sure result. If

761
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.239
you know, if Arizona wins the
game, it'll be okay. You know,

762
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.679
Arizona's bounce back, they go to
they go to Vegas and play fau

763
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:43.199
on on Saturday, and so,
you know, let's see and then you

764
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.679
head into the conference, into the
conference. But I think the expectation is

765
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.159
that Arizona, you know, it
takes care of business tonight, get and

766
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.000
and they should. I mean,
in the end, Alabama is a six

767
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.119
and fourteen. They've got some they've
got a couple of nice wins, but

768
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:59.199
they've got, you know, some
loss. They came off coming off a

769
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:00.400
tough loss to create. Did you
see any of that game? I didn't

770
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.800
see any of the game. So
at the end of the game, Alabama

771
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.559
was down three and they had a
chance and guy put up a half court

772
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.000
shot. It banked in and out. I mean it was like, there's

773
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:15.440
a screenshot like the balls halfway down. Yeah. So, and uh,

774
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:21.039
who's the coach that right? Okay, that's right. He went wild the

775
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.159
other day over something, right,
wasn't there. He's a he's a wild

776
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:29.159
card always. We saw him at
the the West Region. Uh, it

777
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:30.639
was last year, the year before. I wouldn't say last year, I

778
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.480
don't remember. Anyways, it was
Brandon Miller. There was that a whole

779
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.480
thing. No, it wasn't.
It's two years confused with Arkansas. Okay,

780
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:42.400
that happened, Muss and they stayed
over Musselman. Yeah, yeah,

781
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:46.880
he's a nut. He's the one
that's okay. Hey, I appreciate you

782
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:50.280
being here today. Yeah, this
was fun. I hope you had fun.

783
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:54.320
Yeah, gave the folks something interesting
to talk about. I didn't get

784
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:59.039
to yell at you about anything really
today, you didn't. I didn't give

785
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:02.039
you I beg I carefully planned that. Yeah. Tell me your call on

786
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:09.719
the game tonight. Give me a
score Arizona ninety five to eighty six six,

787
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:14.239
Yeah, going over? Yeah,
and taking cat and Cats covering.

788
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.360
I think it's six and a half. Is that what I saw? Last

789
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.880
I saw it was seven seven?
Okay, all right, I'm taking the

790
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.760
Cats too. I think they'll cover. I don't know about the overunder though,

791
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:27.440
but who knows what you know that. I don't know much of anything.

792
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.119
All right, thanks for being here. Well, Steve will be back

793
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.320
tomorrow and we'll go back over this
game tomorrow, So I'll be sure to

794
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:34.760
come back tomorrow. See later,

