Hey, everybody, welcome back to an episode of Challenge, a podcast all
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how many people on the Facebook group seem to think. So. I love
that answer so great. Yeah. Uh, as always, I am Brian
sitting in Germantown Hills with his kid yet again, locked up in the closet,
big n sweet tea. Uh. He just gave her drugs before we
got recordings, So that's how I do it. She came up and asked
for them too. It's very rare that I get to give those to her,
very rare, very sadly newly on the no not sad single block.
Is that that's sad at all? Way? Tears, I see it,
I see it. She was crying earlier. Yeah, I was just absolute
Carlin san Diego and it's his fucking loss. I'm goddamn catch and sitting at
work hoping his boss doesn't come back and get in trouble once again. Zachi
bananas and yes, I was very worried about that tonight, trying to avoid
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I no you the host the Yeah, yeah, the website one true true
on the website. I have pulled ahead of him. But that one is
just the if things go wrong. Yeah. I know it's not the official
scores act, but it's still yeah, but another way to compete for being
the unofficial one. Tim, you're not looking so great Bane that you've lost
half your player, I know, I mean, I can't believe it in
both of them, so it sucks. It's not the only one. We'll
find out this episode. Yeah, sure, all right, all right,
go for it. We're getting into it, all right. This is an
episode number three of All Stars four. This is called True Colors. It
starts with my nightmare scenario. The worst way I can imagine starting an episode
of the Challenge with Tina putting on makeup. Do you guys catch this?
I didn't even think about it the first the first scene, the first Oh
god, I totally forgot how awkward it would be for you. Hated it.
I hate it. At least it wasn't deorder it deodor. It's way
worse. The lipstick I can sort of deal with. I really hated it
because I just don't I don't need. Like last week was the super awkward
like Steve using the thera gun on his nuts. This week it's the super
awkward her putting on not even super rock, it's just her putting on makeup.
I don't I don't need these. The voiceover is horrible. They're so
bad. What are they thinking with this ship? Yeah, I'm disappointed because
last week I skipped the previously on you guys said how amazing it was.
I watched this week and I'm like, this is so dumb. No,
we said how awful it was, not how amazing, how awful. Honestly,
it makes me kind of wish that we got the one. Do you
remember a few years ago when like there was the one where Sylvia was eating
cake and she like swiped the cake with her finger and sucked the icing off,
And there was another one where they are do I remember I remember that
the only one that I remember, but there were there were like a bunch
of them that were like these weird little vignettes like that. It makes me
wish we got that back, and I think that's what they're trying to kind
of harken back to. But these ones are just not working. Yeah,
I don't like the the voiceover. It's really awkward to me. And these
are not These are not good voiceover people. It sounds really authentic. I
don't know, I just don't like it. I don't like it, but
I mean, it looks like we are in fact going to be getting Oh
did we lose him? It looks like we lost him. It looks like
we are in fact going to be getting the uh previous Nights or previous week's
star winner as the like voiceover and host and no, Tim, you just
asked, are you there? No, you're not there, You're gone.
So do you think next week we get spoiler Veronica and Kefala together? Oh
it would be Rachel and yeah, Rachel and Kefla. Yeah either one.
Rachel over on that I can work. Tim. It says that it can't
display your camera or Mike. Yeah, this is good. I'm sure this
won't suck up the audio or whatever. No, not at all. All
right, does anybody actually have notes? No? Tim took them all.
So oh wait, maybe back again, Hill. Does this mean that we're
all gonna cut out again like we did a few weeks ago. We're just
all of a sudden, everybody peast out. I don't know if it's been
happening. I don't know it's been happening to you guys, But ever since
we got on your like, your videos have been like flickering every so often.
To me, M, I'm gonna turn off a camera. How about
that? Yeah, Tim, you mentioned earlier when we were in the pre
show that looked like lightning had just happened. I just saw that again,
and I don't think it's lightning. I think it's your camera flashing. Well,
we are even understorm. There's a thunderstorm out here, so yeah,
but this was This isn't in a like, this isn't on the outside edge
of those curtains. It's on the inside of those curtains. Yeah, I'm
thinking I'm having some power surges or something. Yeah, because the lights are
kind of something's happening. So yeah, my internet might have gone out for
half a second or something. Gotcha. I'm just thankful that this season I'm
not the problem. It's me. It's me, all right. Well,
it seems like Kara has abandoned calling people's targets. But I'm not ready to
abandon that yet. And I'm gonna just keep calling people that I can find
that. You're good. You're good with that, Azachi, I'm good with
that. I love that name, all right, me and you are taking
it over. They didn't say it once in this episode. Not once.
I didn't even catch that. Yeah, but Tina is the new target.
She walks into this house with the with the target on her back. Yeah.
She not only walks into that house with the star, she walks into
that house by listening while Lucky by Britney Spears is playing. And it was
so perfect. It was She's so lucky, She's a star. It said
she's a star as they flashed her picture up. Oh, well done,
editors, well done. That's pretty good. We get the heartwarming scene of
Cam and Lee looking at their phone, which I didn't know they were allowed
to have phones. What's this ship all about? That's why I think Kingston.
I think Kingston is there. I think she's pumping and Kingston is there
and that's why she's able to have the phone because he's still an infant.
Yeah, I think they made special accommodations, but that is that is shit.
I do too when I'm away from my kids, I just look at
pictures of them on my phone. It's pathetic, but I related to this
in the same way with Corey looks at polaroids. It's so adorable, just
wonderful. Cam talks about how difficult it is to do this while she's missing
her kid, but being a mom gives her more to fight for. This
is great. I love it. So do you think I think that she
would have the same attitude if she and Lee were not but we're not both
there, because like if it were just her and Lee was back home,
because right now they have two chances to win, So if she goes home,
then he still could potentially go all the way or vice versa. Do
you think she'd still feel the same way, what that she's has more to
fight for? No, Because at one point in time she in this whole
conversation, she said that, you know, she has more to fight for,
but she's also more willing to really go hard. Because if she goes
home, she goes home to the most adorable baby. But if she stays,
then she potentially wins two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, Kay
has missed our point that we think Kingston is nearby production. Yeah, that's
our theory. Nothing to back it up except some logic. There's no way
she's she's mail in that back, said Lero. I think I think Lee,
I think I think they're having to say that for the show. But
yeah, there's absolutely no way that she is pumping and sending milk back to
him. Because she made a point of saying something about how she was pumping
milk for him. There's no way that she's pumping and sending the milk back
to him in the States. Yeah, unless she froze it or something,
but that would be Yeah, I would imagine like crazy shipping costs. They
had a podcast, apparently he said that on their podcast. I didn't know
they had a podcast. Maybe we're wrong. I mean, either that or
she's just doing a bunch of pumping dumps. Yeah, just keep the production
up. I guess, Yeah, that could be. I mean that's a
possibility. Yeah, but she said she's sending it to I know she did.
She did mention that, so it makes me, I don't know,
I still think that they're Yeah, it seems very bizarre to me that she
would be pumping and mailing it from South Africa to the US. Yep.
That doesn't saying they must be freezing it. But yeah, but even if
they freeze it, like sending it from South Africa to the US, there's
so much chance for something to go wrong and for that to heat up to
a point where it is no longer viable, it's no longer healthy. And
plus, plus these alsos are only like what two three weeks they found I
think, I think. I think it's actually longer than that now I think,
yeah, but not crazy. I think it's yeah, three or four
weeks, it's not crazy long, not like the eight weeks or whatever.
By the time you're just like every day sending milk off from South Africa to
the United States. At some point, it's just like, you know,
just we'll have to drink formula until I get home. Like, I don't
it's a weird situation. I don't know. Yeah, it just doesn't feel
like it would be something that they'd be willing to mail back because I feel
like they're just there are too many possible chances of that going bad. Yeah,
and like even just the slight bit bad and it's no longer viable for
the baby, so or at least people wouldn't feel comfortable with it. I
just yeah, it feels it feels like something that the uh stove Steve brought
up the if production really wanted to accommodate Cam on the show, they'd pay
to accommodator. Wouldn't be shocked if they were storing it for and or shipping
it back weekly. I mean, I agree, I think that they'd be
willing to accommodate her. I just I think that with it with an infant
of that age, and with the star power that Cam and Leroy have,
I feel like they'd be more inclined to have him there. But I have
him there, I don't know. Jokers a little disappointed. So this is
not the boom talk that I like. I like Shack's idea that they just
sent the boom mil Cone with whoever got sent home that week. That'd be
smart. Just send it home in like a like we havebe to a layover
in Texas and drop the thought that's right, all right. Ultimately, ultimately
it's like nobody really gives a fuck if you're sending it or not. But
they keep but they keep bringing up the fact that she has to pump,
Like every episode they brought it up so far. Yeah, and it's just
it's a mystery that I want the actual answer to. It's now we're speculating,
and it's funny, is we have the you know, Leroy said it,
but Carlo is still over there, like I don't believe it. Yeah,
it seems to me just saying I believe that bullshit liar. Yeah,
this is coming from a woman who has never actually had children. I just
want the truth, but I won't believe it when I hear it. No,
I obviously know so much about pumping and storing and keeping milk. Uh.
We see the first of a couple of different scenes of Rachel, Tina,
and Ayana talking. This is when they're out at the pool. It's
kind of when Rachel tries to tell Ayana to just chill the fuck out and
calm down because she's freaking everybody out crazy. Yeah. It does a lot
of good too, right, Yeah, you can tell she listened and internalize
it. All, Yeah, she fucking came in on like level twenty,
like girl, I mean I realized that she lost some weight and that she
thought that maybe she had a chance. But she also came in and immediately
said, oh, I'm rooming with a champion to Cam, So she obviously
knew that she wasn't going to be winning this season. Yeah, so like,
chill the fuck out lasts longer than like two fucking episodes. She's I
think Brandon says it later in this episode that she's spinning out a little,
and you can see it, like she's like she's getting momentum built behind this
insanity, Like it's just it's it's spinning up. Yeah, because if she's
coming in looking at Cam being like I'm looking at somebody who's a champion or
whatever. Yeah, why she said, And in this episode she's like,
we got to break those motherfuckers up. Yeah, I know, just like
you're nu. Yeah, I could not deal with being around someone like that,
Like I couldn't deal with with being in an alliance with her or being
like just her chaotic energy is there's far too much. Yeah, you mentioned
her weight loss, She mentions it too, and she was actually inspired by
Rachel took her part of her fitness program. Rachel kind of consulted with her
after hours. Uh so, yeah, it seems like she really owes a
lot of this to Rachel. Yeah, yeah, which I mean good for
her, but at the same time, like maybe tone the crazy down a
little bit more than rather than It's like on a personal level, it's like,
good for you. We're happy before you lost weight or since this you
feel health since they filmed this, she's had some breast cancer stuff going on.
It's like, you know, we feel for you, We're rooting for
you. Man, you are fucking crazy on the show. Yeah, she's
much. Yeah. Even Derek is here saying and who Derek. I can't
recall him ever saying anything negative about anybody, but she is hard to watch.
Yeah, Derek just says that she's she picks and picks on people.
That's what we saw Janelle. She's doing with others, and what she's really
doing is just making everybody wish that she was gone. Yeah, bad news,
guys. Tony's leaving this. I was like, oh, I know,
he was like my guy. I was really I was pinning a lot
on him with him gone, and my team's not looking so good anymore.
So what's so he went to Nicole because they have a history, right,
their original shows together, if I recall that correctly, they were Yeah,
so he's got to leave. All he says is family stuff. He says
something about an emergency. We know nothing else. He says something about his
brother, his brother challenge before. Yes, if it's the same brother,
Shane Zach from social media, Do we know anything about what happened with Tony?
Uh? We did not. I tried looking it up. I checked
read it. There's a whole thread about it, and everyone seems to say
that they cannot find any information on it. Yeah, so I did the
same thing. I tried to see if I can find it. It seems
like it was whatever it was, was kept pretty under wraps. Yeah.
I saw some theories. Yeah, nothing proven, So I'm not gonna justify
the rumors. But he search on Reddit, Yeah, if you're if you're
curious, Caitlin's pointing out that Steve was in the background with the Sea Pap
machine on. Yeah, it's nice to know he's a Seapat brother. Yeah,
solidarity with him, all right? That makes me love Steve even more.
Exactly your seapat brother. I am all right, Carling and your pap
sister, all three of you brothers. No, I'm not a brother.
No I should I got tested, dude, I'm not. I don't.
I don't have the thing. Do you snore? Yeah, but mine is
not a life threatening snore. It's the it's a fun, charming snore.
You know, one of those. There is no such thing. Shove it
up your asskar On, there is too. I remember when I got tested
there it's not I don't know what yours was, well of you, but
I think when I got tested, I said something like, if it's like
over fifteen times at night you stopped breathing, it was bad and I was
over one hundred. Mine was about that. Yeah, that's the the Aussie
is the same. Yeah. So he went to Australia, had sexy time
and then he's like, good night. That's the way it goes. This
is the way it goes, Sindy. I'll tell you. I told her
up front. I'm like, I'm just warning you. I have to use
a seapap. And I found out when I started using my seatpap that apparently
I grind my teeth in my sleep. So I have to put my start
in just letting you know he's half robot. What he said, it's gonna
be. It's gonna be very sexy the moment that the lights going. So
that's always my least favorite discussion to have when I meet someone. That's like,
just so you know, if we sleep over, this is gonna be.
I'm gonna be wearing this on you. If that's as bad as it
gets, Zach, that's not so bad. I don't know if you've used
this, Zach. This is what I This is how I coach it.
I was like, but if I don't use it, I snore so loud
it sounds like two grizzly bears fighting each other. So you could either be
like, I'm so turned off the fact that he wears it, or you
can get actual sleep. It's the getting actual sleep, And I mean,
at least for me, it's just white noise in the background. You don't
need to be turned on while you're sleeping, like you don't need to be
attractive when you're and usually the lights are on or off with with all of
that gets put on, so no one really sees it most of the time
anyway, Yeah, who cares guys who cares. I don't like. I
wish more women to use them, to say, oh yeah, I'm sure
there are plenty of women out there who really should be using them. Zach.
Then that's to you. Be proud, be proud of your seat,
pet. I will do my bad. The conversations tonight, it just got
off the fucking rails. Well, Tony says, don't worry, guys,
you'll set them clocks back. You'll set them clocks again because Tony time will
return. I did appreciate that. I do hope he comes back, because
as much as much as he is never going to win, he's he's never
you know, he's such a fucking dummy. I love him. I love
him. You can't finish the season, Jesus, No, we can't.
He hasn't been able to finish a season since I. Let's see, he's
had to leave. He has either been kicked off by elimination or he's had
to leave early in every single one of his seasons. You're right. It
was only one time when he was in the final vendettas. Oh, that's
right. He did make it to the final vendetas where he backed he backed
throwing bananas in it was the big backstabbing. Yep, I forgot about that.
He's just a big dumb he just he's like a labrador. He's just
he's so dumb. But he just like I think he has really good intentions.
He's just so, I mean, he does now he There were there
were a few years there where he I was I was real questionable about whether
we should even have him on the years that like he was back in corner
Camilla into a corner and almost fighting, starting fights with his brother and which
I mean, I get sibling rivalry and all that sort of thing, but
you're on national television. Cut that ship out. There were definitely a few
that a few seasons where I was a little in there. He had he
had a big turn around though, so which is good for him. Yeah,
yep, I hope you caet to see him again. I always love
seeing Tony. Yeah, but I hope. So. We never thought that
the last one would be Nelson's last season. I feel I feel pretty safe
we're gonna see Tony again soon. He was he was at the last Challenge
Mania. I feel like we'll see him again soon. Goose Force says,
I figured he would have ten kids with ten different women by now. So
good for him, I guess. Honestly, Goo's forced me too. I
was entirely expecting his relationship with baby Mama number two to not work out and
for him to have at least baby not Mama number three by now. Yeah,
if he if he offers you eggs, just say no. Don't bring
up his She didn't bring up his mommy. He brother. I love that
guy. He's so stupid. That whole scene is just, oh god,
it's great. You know. I have to say this right now because someone
in the in the Facebook last week mentioned how this season we all seem much
happier and it's more fundeless to him sort of thing, and I had to
comment, like, yes, sorry, we were all real miserable last season.
Last season, just this conversation, Just how many laughs we've already had
in the first like ten minutes of the show. Oh god, this is
so much better. This is the challenge I love with the people I love
and stuff. Yes, this last MTV Challenge was a slog. The episodes
were too fucking long and dark, and nobody's fun or funny or interesting.
Yeah, there's just so much about it. But yes, I'm very happy
with how this season is going, and I wish they did more seasons like
this. I feel like I was the most positive one about last season.
I was like, no, it's not that bad. Guys. Now watching
this one, I'm like, oh, I've got how good the show could
actually be. Yeah, it was so bad last season. It was we
get Laurel and Nicole. They speak for the first time, ostensibly because Laurel
is comforting Nicole because Nicole missus Tony. Laurel thinks she can help and support.
I think she has alter your motives, what do you guys thinks alterior
motives. But at the same time, I did kind of appreciate that she
was lending a little empathy yea, even though it's got ulterior motives to it,
and even though it's gonna come back to bite all of them in the
ass pretty soon, because I don't even think she thinks she has ulterior motives.
I think ultimately she in her mind is like, I know how Nicole
gets when she gets really upset about something, Tony leaving is upset, I
should go make sure she's okay, not realizing she's doing it because she's still
it's a continuation of her like I am so over her. She's a distant
memory, She's nothing to me, Like she's just convincing herself. This is
probably some of that same shit. Yep, totally is, and a fact.
We are onto the challenge, motherfucker. That's it. Before we get
to the challenge, TJ has to bring in somebody to her place. Tony
so out runs Cyrus. Cyrus is looking good. Yeah you've said that,
Carlyn. Is it? Uh? Is? Was it anybody else? Cyrus
is on my fantasy team for the host one. Yeah? Is it bad
that I didn't realize he wasn't on the show at this point? I didn't
either, dude. I only noticed last week when I was doing that the
score. I'm like, wait, what where's Cyrus at? Oh my god?
They connected dot Tom Like someone must like get metavact or something. He
has Himmonly, I didn't realize that either. Oh yeah, it's it's weird.
I he just slid under the radar. Yeah, he says he's in
the best shape of his life. So Carlin, you're not wrong. He's
he looks good. He's uh, he's ready to play this game. Yeah,
they've got quite a yet, everybody, everybody has. Almost everybody on
there seems to have kind of come into their into their later in life looks,
and it's it. You know, quite a few of them are hitting
right. Oh yeah, he's a Zaddi. Yeah him, Kafla them that
needs some alone time. The name of this challenge, anybody want to say
it? Hmm, I don't know, are you serious? Domino motherfucker?
I do remember that yet it was motherfucker actually part of it. Yeah,
on the screen. Yeah, I totally miss that. I love it.
I love it. So I was like, that's right, that's because t
J said Domino motherfucker. I had is just like saying that. But then
they pulled up like the chiron of the challenge name and then actually said motherfucker
on it started out. Totally forgot that on Paramount because it's on there and
not on MTV, they can actually say all the words. I didn't even
think about that. I think they did, they believe did they bleep motherfucker?
They definitely start out the letters. Yeah, it's text. I'm sure
there's still some like weird thing with that, but yep. Well, this
game is played in pairs, and basically the pairs will run enormous dominoes that
look like they look like doors is actually what I think they are, and
they have to lay them out in a very specific pattern to get to the
middle. I think they just have to lay them out in order. They
say very specific pattern, but I think it's just an orders just counting down
from twelve. Well, I think there's there's a there's a design that they
can lay it out because there are tim will point out there are extra ones
in there. Yeah, because I think you have to make sure it lines
up with the the end of your row, in the beginning of your row.
Yeah, so everything in the middle has to like match up. Yeap.
So it is a puzzle, it's not just an endurance competition. Yeah,
there's only one way to solve this thing, and yeah, there's extra
pieces. So yeah, this is when we find out it's a double elimination.
One man and one woman is going home by the end of this day.
Kind of change. Why didn't they just why didn't they just let Tony
go and then just do a female elimination. I wondered that myself, maybe
just because they there wouldn't be a dude to run this exact challenge with right,
there'd be a leftover woman right now. Oh yeah, sure, they
wouldn't have pairs, I guess, so I guess just then just bring tyreeback,
ye something like that. Yeah, so weird. It is weird how
they change the rules. Yeah, because I don't think that people actually immediately
go home. I'm pretty sure they go to a hotel for like two or
three weeks, and then they send a home a whole group of people together,
and sometimes they do bring back the last eliminated person. It's weird that
they didn't do that. Yeah, it's I mean, it all seems very
arbitrary how this all happened sometimes. Yeah, considering they didn't bring in an
alternate for Janelle, Yeah yeah, because hers was right before the elimination.
I guess, so they didn't need an extra person. Yeah. The whole
thing's weird. Which I don't know about all of you though, But if
they had brought back Tyree and he just immediately went back and the elimination went
home again, I would be buried down on this episode. I would love
it. I would think that would make it even better for me. Oh,
poor Tyrie. He now officially has the worst record in the challenge.
Right, he does, I believe. Oh yeah, Uh, well,
in this particular game, the two people that win, those are the winners.
Obviously, they're five pairs in the middle. Those are the middle group
that have all the power, and then everybody else is at the bottom.
Uh. And yeah, like I said, double elimination pig stakes h and
TEJ just says, hey, pair up, find your partner. I like
it when TJ does this. It's kind of a little uh, introduces some
randomness into this pairings. Yeah, it's kind of fun. It can the
popularity contest, but yeah, you can usually guess who's gonna end up with
who. And for the most part that yeah, people ended up with who
we thought they wouldn't. The big thing is Lee, Ry and Cam don't
team up together. Yep. If they lose, they would both be in
the bottom. Yep. Smart And I thought that immediately. I was looking
to them being like, I hope they did not pair up together, and
I was happy to see it in Yeah, I think Cam is too smart
to do that. I bet you. She told Lee like we cannot if
there's anything She probably told him before the season started, like, if there's
anything where we need to be on teams or on partners or whatnot. We
need to try our fucking damnedest to not be on the same team, because
I mean, even though we haven't seen it where like it's partners like this,
in most episodes or most seasons, we have seen things where alliances have
been in they've all been partnered on the same or put on the same team
together, or you hear them talking their confessionals about how, oh, you
know, we're You would think that we'd all want to be on the same
team, but we're really we're splitting things up or adding someone into our team
of all of our alliance who's not part of our alliance, so we have
a sacrificial lamb, things like that, and I think Cam is smart enough
to realize that that's what she needs to do. Yep, for this competition.
I'll be honest, this was boring to watch. I don't have any
notes if anything important that happened. Do you guys have anything that you guys
want to talk about? Yes? What Wolfe sent it in a text?
Oh have stupid Brad and Rachel muscles on muscles, no brains between them.
She and Brad start laying out their puzzle. They're dominoes without thinking about how
it's going to line up, and they get almost everything out there and then
realize that they it doesn't match up at the end, and her confessional says,
well, well, this was muscles on muscles. Whoops. I think
I think we might have just stolen Wolfi's closing line. You did, right,
Yeah, I mean the only other thing that I remember from it was
Cam and whoever she was with Derek. They were trying to they were trying
to put their dominoes in order at the starting point and then bring them all
out, but I think that took them longer than it probably needed to.
So Nicole was doing that too with whoever she was teamed up with. Doo.
I don't remember Jay kay once to know Wolfe, could you do this
challenge? Yes? I could. Yeah, I think all of us could
do this challenge, but I do, well probably probably not. I do
enjoy a good, good game of dominoes, so that would be good.
And I feel like I'm one of those people that even if I'm like blowing
hot air because I'm about to have a heart attack, I'm still the type
that's like, Nope, push through, push through. Let's just got to
get this done. Let's get it done. And I was thinking the best
strategy and I think I think Adam and a Room have done it. But
whoever it was that you go to the middle first and you start building it
backwards. I thought that was really smart to do. Yeah, I agree,
start with the the endpoint. Yeah, yep, I do have that.
Brad and Rachel they it's really important that they win because they're both targets.
That's right. Gotta bring that one up whenever I can, yep.
But unfortunately they don't. They don't. Yeah, they do. Adam and
Avery are the ones that win. And Adam is a starget himself, so
you know, so that's we need to get Derek and Ryan to get stars
because then we could call them stargazing. That's pretty good. That take a
second. That was fantastic. That was that was good, well done,
Zach. I like that one, all right. So the middle group we
have is Kara and Ace, Nicole and Jay, Laurel and Brandon, Jasmine
and Steve, cam and Ryan. That makes the losers Leroy and Flora,
Rachel and Brad, Derek and Veronica, Ayanna and cyrus Kefla and Tina other
than again, Rachel and Brad. I don't think there's many surprises here.
I guess leave it. I mean, this is the second team, this
is what the second or third challenge in a row. The Leroy has been
in the bottom. Yeah, he's not doing so good. How did Veronica
outperform Rachel and Tina her partner? Who is her partner again? Derek?
Yeah? Derek and Veronica? Yeah? Really? Yep? Wow, that
seems surprising because they're both little people. Yeah, little people. They're losers
though they lost. They are Rachel, Rachel, Tina, and Veronica were
all in the loser's bracket. Yeah. Yeah, Flora, Oh I missed
that? Okay, yeah, Flora, Rachel, Veronica, and Tina.
Okay, gotcha? Whatever? All right, So this is when we get
sort of the pivotal point as to the whole episode. This is where Flora
is talking to Brandon about what Ayana said. Walking away from the challenge.
Iana said something to Brandon about splitting up. I'm sorry, Anna said something
to Cyrus about splitting up Leroy and Cam. Brandon overheard that and reported it
back to the house. We get shown the chesscam footage. Now, word
for word, guys, this is what Ianna says, I took it word
for word because I think it's important. It's gonna be between you, Kefla,
Derek and Leroy. A lot of people want to try to break up
that alliance between Cam and Leroy because whichever way Lee votes, Cam votes.
That's what Ianna said. She did not say that she wanted to throw them
in or that she was targeting it, And I'm not even sure she implied
it. I don't know what do you guys think. I think she implied
that it was being talked about in the house, not necessarily implied that she
wanted to throw them in. Yeah, I said that said that you got
to break them up, though I think she said she said a lot of
people want to try to break up that alliance between Cam and Leroy, not
that. But you know, I think Brandon did to Iana what Iana did
to Janelle, So I have no sympathy. I don't either, and I
don't think Brandon's lying. But I do wonder, especially with how Ianna reacted,
I wonder if that's not what she meant because this is or maybe we
didn't see exactly what she said that made Brandon think what he thought. But
there's enough plausible the diability that like, I kind of believe that Iona didn't
mean that the way that Brandon interpreted it. You know, I I don't.
I don't I agree with you what she said. I don't think she
directly said it. I don't know if I believe that she didn't mean it
that way, or if it's kind of a thing of being like, hey,
I can't make this move, but this is a move that could be
made, and as long as my hands are clean, like, I'm okay
with it. Yeah, And I guess there is some element of that's that's
like, oh, look at Carlon, good luck Kron like like like Rusty
in a vacation that we can't hear it, Karon, that's a throwback reference.
Uh, it's allergy season and humidity is fluctuating, so letty noses are
a real common thing right now. Uh yeah, it's a good look.
I should just should just leave that Linux hang out of your nose all the
time. Don't take a screenshot for the instagram. Joker, Yeah, joker,
don't look look away. It's gonna ruin your crush. All right.
Well, that's that's the line. We'll get back to the line later,
I guess when Iana is is uh defending it. Later we see kefla Insie,
they catch up. It's kind of nice seeing a bunch of a couple
of old dudes uh chatting again after uh not seeing each other for forever.
Yeah, it's always nice. Yeah, I mean all right, and now
we get party night. Party night in the house is weird? Have we
seen this party night yet with this weird RV and ship in the yard?
Yeah? They had this is like the second or third club night with this
r V thing. I think, so, I don't know. I stay.
I feel like they've only been doing it in the house. Okay,
well, yeah, the RV thing was weird to me. I don't remember
that before. I don't remember that. I wonder if that's the r V
from last week's challenge. And Teja just like dropped in the backyard after the
challenge. No, maybe many disagrees with me. Sorry many, But oh
my god, did you guys hear that? Yeah, I don't know what
your child doing. I don't know some so drunk on melitone. My other
child could be too too. Yeah that's what he was talking about. So
we we have cam approaching Rachel Kara and Laurel that this this is the party
night, telling everybody that Iana is targeting her. Most people kind of don't
believe this, and Laurel is just like, fuck this, why are we
even talking about it. I'm just gonna go talk to Aana and see what's
up. So this is where the we see the IVY or IVY r V.
She goes to talk to Aana, and Aana just says, like,
what I never said that? Uh? And I guess that's the end of
this scene. Does this lend any credence to what on his position? Guys?
I mean, I kind of just feel like they're doing exact same thing
to her that she did to Janelle, which has been said already. But
yeah, yeah, sorry commerce a bitch. Yeah, I don't have any
I don't have any sympathy, but I do. I I kind of wonder
if I Hada was not targeting them. I just wonder that. Yeah.
And I think someone like you know, Leroy before last week probably would have
stepped in and like stood up for her, I think, but after her
long speech and all the drama she could, I think everyone that would have
had her back was like, yeah, I'm not I'm not going to fight
for you this time. Yeah, yeah, she really fucked over that possibility.
Yeah. I think that that's where this comes from. I think even
if there are people that are sort of like, oh, maybe I believe
her, they're also just sort of like, well, she deserves this,
so fuck it, you know. I think that's kind of where everybody's at.
Well, and I mean, with what's about to happen, I think
they're all correct. Yeah, I mean it seems like, well, we
were shown her and Rachel are prey close from even off the show, and
it even seemed like Rachel, you know, her that she's the target,
was just like well to try to fix and didn't even like really put in
any work to favor. I don't know. I think that Ayanna has shared
a lot with Rachel, but I don't feel like Rachel feels like they're actually
close. I feel like that is a business relationship for Rachel, and so
she will she will give the the empathy and the sympathy and the help where's
where it's needed when there's a business relationship happening. But it's her actual game
and shit's on the line. She's not gonna stick her neck neck out for
someone who she's not actually in a real alliance. Well, you know she
Rachel was the one that originally stept to go fund me for Ayana's Are you
saying that she only did that to she got to keep that monthly payment coming
in that money? No? I mean again, like we talked about this
earlier, Like there's a there's a difference between the real life ship where Iona
is going through cancer and has all of this shit happening in her life and
the game ship, like Rachel's not gonna do ship for in the game,
but in real life, Like, yeah, who wouldn't set up a go
fund me for a friend of theirs who's going through major cancer battles and has
four kids that they have to provide for. So I agree with that.
I do think it's more fun though, just to pretend Rachel's like only continue
like keeping the money. But yes, so you alluded to it, Carlin.
But this is where Cam confronts Iana about this whole thing. Iana just
says, Hey, I don't want to talk about this right now. I'm
tired. I don't want to talk game right now. Cam pushes it a
little bit, and I on a fucking and freaks out. Yeah, but
Cam pushes a little bit in private, it's just the two of them in
that room, and I would I mean, I would have done the same
shit. Like, girl, I'm hearing that you're trying to go for me
and my partner. Like what, I need you to give me a little
bit more than just saying that you're tired and you don't want to talk about
this right now, because that makes me feel like you are really going for
us. Like if you if you refute it a little bit and kind of
give me some bad like give me some instances as to why you're not going
for us and help me understand why someone will be saying that, then I'm
more likely to back off. But yeah, you just flip in your fucking
lid is not gonna help. Yeah, I feel like, you know,
uh, just like oh, you know, talking with the kel Fiers syrsh
talking about it and be like yeah, like they asked me what to do
and I said, here's the names I've heard in yours was one of them.
But like, you'll be honest, be like I never three yeund the
bus. I just said, hey, here's the names that are out there.
But I knew year I was gonna pick up steam. Yeah, I
think Iana just has no goodwill in this house at all. So even even
you know Cam, it would have taken a little bit of good will to
be like, oh, yeah, you know, we'll talk about it this
in the morning, no problem. But I doesn't even have that amount of
goodwill. So yeah, I don't think she has the wherewithal to either.
She doesn't have the wherewithal to sit there and tell her like, look,
you know, I happen to mention to Kathla, but there was a good
chance that people were going to go for you guys, because you are a
strong alliance. I don't think she is the wherewithal to say that. But
I also it makes me wonder if she really did, at some point in
time say something allude along the lines of like yeah, we should go for
Cam and Leroy. And that's why she couldn't just come out and say something
like that. But yeah, whatever, we will never know. But Iana
just goes around, she's flipping out, and this is where she points directly
at Brandon and says like was it you? Was it you who told everybody
this? And Brandon just like, I haven't even spoken to you, how
would I say anything? Which is just great, straight up to her face.
Great. Hey, I mean, with as much shit as he has
had to take over the years, I loved seeing him just be like my
problem. I am so happy seeing him back on the show. Yeah,
it's a lot. I love this guy. He is just the chillest dude.
I just love this guy. Yeah, he's chill, but he's he's
a little messy and it's kind of fun. Remember when he got drunk before
the elimination and got himself disquality. I forgot about that. Yeah, freshman
too against and Sydney, that's right. Yeah, because they just wanted to
give them a chance to run the elimination or something because his partner was injured
or I forget how. Yeah, Caitlyn got injured. So they were just
gonna like go and like cross the starting line, then sit down so Sydney
could take the time and like see the entire course and then that's not flying.
Yeah, because he because he was drunk. Yeah that was great.
Uh so AA is continuing to flip out, yell that, Jasmine. Jasmine
flips out in return, yells out, Now you're gonna see the bride of
Chucky, which I appreciated so good. Yeah, because apparently she and Jasmine
have been in and talks outside of the house like shit's gone down in Jasmine's
life and Iana has been the one that she's called to like have it be
a shoulder to cry on, which I found kind of strange, Like,
of all people in the challenge, that's who you you've been talking to.
Well, she said, outside of the house, Iona is very different,
which I sort of I can see. I would think that outside of the
house. I bet Ana's very supportive and very generous, and you know,
I bet I bet it's the stress and the insanity of the house that makes
her act like this. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I'm sure
the stress in the chaos the house is part of it. But you can't
be that different, like all that shit's still laying under the surface, Like
that's It's not like she became a completely different person when she came into the
house. Yeah, it's the same person that she was the last time she
was here. She was still just as nuts. Then. I bet she's
a big gossip outside of the house. You're telling me Jazz is not going
to sit down with her and just gossip about everybody. That all right?
So where was I yes, uh Ayana is yes, having problems here.
Rachel pulls her aside and gives her the exact same advice as before, just
like, hey, calm down, don't let them get to you out.
Yeah, it's like this advice is not landing Rachel, but good on you.
You keep trying. This is another pumping conversation, since we haven't had
enough talk about pumping milk. Lee and Cam are sitting there talking while Cam
pumps, and Cam just says, do you find her pumping awkward or is
it just the makeup? No? I didn't find the pumping awkward. I
know it's weird, it makes no sense. I know. I'm telling you
guys, it's it's some trauma from my childhood that has yet to be unearthed.
No, I was not uncomfortable with at all. Did you interrupt your
mom when she was put on makeup and she's like, spanks you or something
something something happened that it's I have a I have a big aversion. It's
like, yeah, I just I can't even look at it. I know,
well, you know, we all of our things, you know,
what can I says? Uh? So, Basically, what it comes down
to is everybody knows it's gonna be Ayana who's going in there. Uh,
and the main priority of the house is really just like, let's get rid
of Ayana, who has the best chance of eliminating her, And of course
it's gonna be Rachel. But Brandon does his vote with if I could vote
for Ryana twice, I would, but because of ant but if I did,
she'd come back. So well, this is this is the conversation immediately
immediately before nominations, because yeah, Cara, this is where Kara and Rachel
are are talking. And car Is pretty much say, yeah, it's probably
gonn me and Ayana, and Carra says, well, we're both targets and
I cannot vote for a starget and you shouldn't vote for a starget either,
because you are one. So yeah, Kara just basically makes it well known
that as long as she is holding a star she will not vote for a
star holder. What do you guys think of this? This? I wonder
if she if she's actually if she actually won't vote for a star holder,
or if she just won't vote for a strong star a star holder, because
I have a feeling that she thinks that a competitive like an accompetition between her
and Rachel be really difficult to try and get a star back. But if
she voted for someone like Tina, couldn't she Well, she could have voted
for Tina, a star holder Tina, and she didn't true a s target
Tina, sorry starget. Yeah. Yeah, I think that this pertains to
strong players. I don't know that it pertains to all star holders. Yeah,
well we'll see, We'll see how this goes. So yeah, so
now we are in denominations. God, damn it, M say my name,
bitch. I'm sorry, don't say my name, bitch. Very dish.
I could have like a chat window and the median window open at the
same time, but I can't. Oh yeah that is a bummer. Yeah
they should, all right. So, in terms of the men, there's
no debate. I don't even remember if there's a vote. It's pretty much
just Cyrus and Kevla and everybody just sort of agrees, and that is what
it is. Women, there is a few more debates. It seems clear
that it's going to be I on En and Rachel. The people that don't
vote for Rachel all have their reasons why not, but they all know it's
kind of inevitable. It's gonna be them. Flora kind of catches a lot
of the burn votes. Yeah, yeah she does. Uh what do you
guys think about cam freaking out of the fact that I guess not freaking out,
but being really upset over the fact that Kara didn't Rachel hated it.
Hated this flashbacks of the bathtub cam. Remember that bathtub Yeah, that's what
I was gonna say. She felt real entitled right here, right I hated
this version of cam right here. Yeah. Yeah, it was like just
because you have Lee here and you are known as kill a cam, like,
I don't know it just yeah, it rubbed me the wrong way.
She felt real entitled, very bratty. On top of that, by the
time Cara said a name, unless they edited it really weird. By the
time Carra said a name, it didn't matter if she voted for Rachel or
not. Yeah, that's what caj put in the chat room. Did Carra
really go last? Because yes, it made no difference. So why are
we making this an issue. Let Kara do her thing. It does not,
It has no impact. I mean maybe if she wasn't actually the person
to go last, it would have made a little bit of a difference,
but the way that it was edited, Yeah, it made it look like
she was the last person to vote, in which case, who gives a
shit. Yeah, it was also weird too. I don't know if you
guys caught it. Jasmine said something weird like she voted for Rachel and Iana,
and then a second or two later she's like, oh, but I'm
doing it in support of you too, Cam, Like, just I just
want to make sure that's known. Even though I voted for who you wanted
me to, I want to make sure it's known that I also did it
for you. Yeah. It is weird. It is weird. It's it
felt like, like Cam, you she just she felt so entitled and it
it wasn't fun to watch it. It gave me the ick. I did.
Like Carra's reply, Cam is like, you know, I don't like
that, and I'm going to take that offensively, and Carl's like, yeah,
I know, like just didn't really bother her. Yeah. Carra seems
to have actually like grown up a little bit in the last few years,
which is good to see. I do like this version of car that we've
seen. Yeah, this time around, all right, Well with that we're
into elimination. Uh, this one is called down the Tube. Kind of
an interesting game. What do you guys think of the game? That's kind
of cool. I liked it. It's like and I soil twist on.
Yeah it was. It was an interesting twist on a howl brough. It
was also kind of like, oh no, they were They were in a
tube and rolling the tube for the last one that I saw, so there
was there was the one where Jordan was against Durrell. Yeah, definitely the
same tube though, Yeah, same tube, but they had a different way.
It was split in half and they had to try and spin it one
way or the other. So yep, this is called down the Tube.
And yeah, there's a huge ball in the middle of this tube. And
basically I was a little confused until the end. But as long as you
get that ball popped out the other side, you win. You don't have
to knock the other person off. Yeah yeah, yeah, I feel like
this is a fun, fun elimination because obviously the All Stars seems like they
don't want to go to hardcore with some of these eliminations because they don't want
people getting injured. Yeah whatever, since everybody's only sort of there for a
limited amount of time, and I feel like this is a good competitive one.
Yeah, that really has people going against each other without them actually like
laying hands on each other, and you know, there is some both strategy
and some strength to it and everything else. So I thought it was a
lot of fun. Yeah, and we agree with that. We've ben't seen
them the last few seasons. Make a lot of changes to halbrowl to make
it more safe, and I feel like this is a more fun version than
any of the like padded versions of hall brawl we've seen lately. Yeah,
because this is at least like there there is some athletic ability to it.
There is some like some fascality to it, like you really do have to
you're basically pushing someone out of a two like you are pushing someone out of
a tube. But yeah, it was a lot more fun to watch than
some of the other games that they've come up with. I also just like
really simple eliminations like this is, yeah, push the ball out at the
end of the tube. It's as easy. Honestly, if we had had
this elimination instead of any of those fucking puzzles last season, I think that
we would have been a lot happier because then at least you'd have like CT
going against someone in a in a physical elimination where they're actually having to try
not lighting fucking candles on fire go against I don't remember, I don't remember
either, but they were lighting candles on fire. That's all I do remember
off it, and there was there was considerable Yeah, maybe the candles for
someone else, candles candles with Durrell and yeah, oh that's right, as
if was the yeah, where they had to like it was numbers and math
and things. But I'm just imagining CT like just nailing one side of the
ball and as Off just flying fucking T shirt gun or something, right,
But like that would have been so much more fun to watch than those fucking
stupid puzzles. Yeah, getting CT on a math problem? Are you fucking
out of your minds with this MTV? What are we doing? Bare minimum?
They should have at least put him in in a not so fast because
CT and not so fast. It's just that is magic to watch. Carlin's
Wet Dreams is a man. Well, so it's Kefal and Cyrus there down
there with Ayana and Rachel. Long story short, nobody's taking their spots,
anybody's spots to get the star themselves. So it is those two against each
other. Yeah, I mean, was anyone surprised by that? No,
No, I'm gonna like it more once they start having the balls to do
it. I know it's early in the game and we're not going to see
it for a while, but yeah, that and I mean, there's no
way in hell Avery would have I mean, and Avery could have put up
a ds inn ish fight, but I think Avery's also significantly smaller than I
on a Yeah. Yeah, and Adam already had a start. He was
not going down there. No, I knew Adam wouldn't well anyway a round
one. I don't know Kefla wins. I don't know anything easy, Yeah,
we all get it. I was very I was very sad. I
was like, oh, my team, the guy on my team, Cyrus
just showed up and he's an elimination. And yeah, that happened fast.
Keffler's got to have like forty pounds on Cyrus at this point, right,
Yeah, and Kevil is much bigger. Yeah, I can't remember it was
that said like this was the wrong time for Cyrus to lose all that weight.
Yeah, so k brings up afterwards breaking part, breaking a hamstring,
injury, fucking part. It was so good. I was I was dying.
I love this Kefla. You know, he's the type of guy,
like he's the super quiet guy that you don't really know, but the second
he says something, it's hilarious. He's so much fun. This guy is.
Yes, he is fun. I'm real, I'm real happy with him
being there. He's fun to watch. Yeah. And then with the women,
Rachel wins. Seems like she wins without trying all that hard. Yeah.
Yeah, we give a solid five seconds of Iona chanting her kids' names.
She was going for it, but Rachel was super smart, and it's
like, I'm just gonna wait her out. She's gonna be gas out here
in a second. Yeah she does. Yep. So that was it we
learned. Now, there were some questions earlier in the episode what happens if
you have a target and you get to steal one? Those are answered now.
First of all, you have to steal ones. If you go down
the elimination, you have to take one. You cannot just let all stars
be where they are. You can take one from a man, But then
you have to give it to a man, and I don't know, I
don't know. What do you guys think about that, these these new star
rules. I like youah, yeah, it causes chaos. I think you
should be able to give the start anybody you want. It's a one winner.
I like that they have to keep it split, like if you take
it from a man, that has to go to a man, take it
from a war that because otherwise we end up with the same ship that they
ended up within the island, you'd have a bunch of dudes holding on the
keys and only two women. Yep, winner back. Yeah, but that
has never happened. There's never been a season where that has happened. The
moment that they give the ability to the guys to start stealing the keys or
stealing the stars and giving them to more guys, all of the women are
going to be kicked out. They're going to try so hard to do that.
I like that it is split, that they have to have three and
three. I agree with Carlo. Yeah, I think I just think with
a with a one winner final, who cares if if if it's six women
or six men or half of each. It's sort of as there's only one
winner, So who cares because then it'll just be all dudes in the final.
Yeah, it could, it could potentially be all women. It is
never going to be all women. I much love my girls. It is
never going to be. We could see if it was allowed to happen.
We could see it this week. We could see four women's targets and two
males targets this week. Had Rachel been able to do that, yeah,
but two of those women were would be Tina and Veronica. I mean we
were even in ours would be really easy, if you may, Like at
the final six or seven, we were in a position season thirty nine where
there was talk about all women going to the finals together. I've been talking
about it. But then, as they always do, there's always one woman
who's going to fucking cave. Like Kay said in the chat room, women
are always will start caving because fucking Berna fucked that all up. Yes she
did. Yeah they could, we could have had our actual are act true.
Paula also fucked that up, like there will always be that woman out
there who will do the thing that the guys would never do and will cave
and bring a guy back in. I am very very very happy that it
is forced split between three men and three women, because otherwise, even with
the crop of dudes that we have there, who all seem to be pretty
stand up guys, every season that we've ever seen some plantis where the ability
to get more men versus women in there has had the possibility of happening.
They have pushed really hard to do it. I don't know, I think
we can see men not one in all dudes Final two, Yeah, because
they don't want to run against all dudes. I'm with you, Tim,
like I was thinking, because I think in my mind that we're gonna have
a woman and a male winner. Now that you point out that, yeah,
we only get one winner. Like even if it's an all dude final,
Like, fine, if a woman can't make it to the end,
how are we going to expect or beat the men in the finals, Like
they've got to beat everyone anyway. I mean, I get that, but
I just I would I don't like the possibility of all of the women not
getting stars, not having stars. Plus, you know, we got Mayor
that has been We've been so close to that so many times, and he
got Mayrior. We we've had a one season where we had like a solo
winner and that was a I guess we've had two we've had this last few
seasons anyway. The first one was Kara who beat a bunch of dudes to
be the first solo winner, and she we have around the season so she
can do it again. Yeah. No, I'm not saying that it's not
something that's possible. I'm just saying every season that we've had the chance where
the guys can take all of the chances to go to the final, they
have tried their fucking damnedest to get every single woman out far ahead of time.
And I it's just it's just but that was also teams when they didn't
want the women on their teams not to run against I think most men run
every time. Every time we've had a final where even if there's only one
winner, they still end up having to pair up with other people. So
whether they're on a full team or they have to pair up in the final
with different people, they Yeah, I just I I. Ultimately it just
comes down to I'm happy that it's a four split. I'm happy that if
you take it from a man that has to go back to a man.
If you take it from when it has to go back to a woman.
Yeah, we'll see how impacts the rest of the season. Yeah, I
think it's a little weird. Rachel ends up taking it from Tina, which
makes sense, and Tina didn't give it, seem to give a ship and
give it to Veronica who No, but we need to talk about Tina's response
because it was pretty fair. Just fell down to her knees, reaching her
arms up. No, I worked so hard for I appreciate that. It
was pretty funny. She's at least transferring the star, not even not even
taking it, just transferring it. Yeah. Well, and they don't care.
Those three just want stars for all three of them, and they you
know, I don't think it is absolutely delusional for Rachel to think that she
can get Tina and Veronica into the final. Yeah, I mean, though,
isn't it. I mean it'd be nice because then Rachel immediately beats two
people. Yeah, I mean unless unless Rachel breaks her ankle in the first
five minutes of the final, there's no way in hell Tina and Veronic are
gonna win. Yep, I agree. Now they shouldn't even be there.
Yeah, No, they're fluff players. To be real. The fact that
they even have the chance to have stars right now is so surprising. You
mean be targets, yeah, b targets. Yeah. I think I think
Tim just wants the show just to be the final. I'd be like the
final. He's like Tina and Veronica, they don't even need to be there.
He just wants to be like, Hey, guys, it's the new
season of Challenge. There's two episodes. It's all final. I think my
thing is with the fluff people. I just like I overdose on them easily,
you know. So, Like, it was nice seeing Tina the first
time. I hadn't seen her in ten years. It's cool to see her
three time in a row. I'm done. I just she's I'm over her.
This time. It's Flora. I like seeing Flora. She has no
no chance to win this, but it's nice seeing her. If I see
her next season, I'm gonna be sick of it. Yeah. I was
real over Tina after the end of her first season back because she quit in
the elimination. But just as Melinda ran around, but bring Steve back every
season. I can never get hired of him. Steve. I'm done with
Steve too. No, you don't like him. Jo creeps me too,
Carl. I don't know what it is about him. There's something weird about
him, me the creeps. I can't believe him of the anti hand job.
No, there's just something about him that gives me the creeps. Yeah,
I feel the same. I don't like that guy. Did you guys
see the pictures I posted of him, like caressing my chest? Yeah?
That mh. I'll have to detective later, Carlyn. No, I'm good.
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a photo on social media and with THEO. Vaughn saw his show which car
the Challenge. We've had like four Theos, the comedian, Mullet THEO,
the old old school THEO. Yeah from road World to have the mullet comedian
now, yeah, I just immediately had a flashback to the THEO who had
to do the the elimination where he and Corey and Jenna all had to climb
up that thing and jump off the swing and hold the balls and he couldn't
do it and then he got lowered down like different THEO. That's THEO and
that we shall never speak of that THEO again. He's a nice guy.
When did you know, I mean a few years ago in Chicago he went
to tell I think the first Chicago Challenge he was allowed at a challenge media.
Yeah, quit his first season, like four episodes in and he was
allowed. So to be fair, he actually wasn't on like the stage show
and didn't Evean like announce he was there. But he sat in the back
corner by himself, and if you recognized him, you could go up and
talk to him. I was there's like me and like two other people seem
to recognize him if I were, if I were in his position, there's
no way, hell I'd get caught dead at a Challenge media event like I'm
gonna get ridiculed to all get out. I think some of those guys get
into the Challenge media circuit to get back on the show. I think I
was back on the show. He quit, So Tina Tina's back. People
people say Jay quit. Now we got Jay back. Yeah, Chase,
he's got a caveat at the end of an asterisk at the end of his
name. Yeah. Other you know. Small news is Kara was on Bananas
Podcast this week and speaking of Jay, she was really putting him over and
saying just how how amazing he was and that she thinks Evan's gonna be very
surprised with just how good Jay is. Suddenly, Jay is Zach's favorite player.
No, I still like the goof Josh. Oh, everybody loves Josh
on the show, so he's my favorite. Now, well, I met
Josh in person. If I meet Jay in person, maybe I'll change my
opinions. I dislike Jay. I think Jay got rod deal. I think
Jenna is equally a blame for that quit. Yeah, she at least proved
herself on later season. So yeah, now Jay has his shot. Yeah,
I think I think Jenna is more fortunately you know, yeah, and
unfortunately she married an idiot. Yes again, anything else sec No, that's
about it. I think uh Tim wants to bring up again talking about it
now they talk about All Stars five casting. The rumors have been out there.
Oh yeah, well, I don't know specifically about All Stars five.
The rumor thread that I read said that there is some debate that they are
casting for a new challenge related show that is not All Stars five, and
it is not Yeah, it is not USA two. It is a new
thing. I have been somebody else. Somebody else came back and said,
no, it's not a new thing. It's All Stars five. But they
are getting CBS people and the international people and all this stuff. So there
seems to be some debate as to whether or not this is a CBS version
or nobody is one hundred percent sure that I've seen. Yeah, and it
seems like gamer Vev a couple of days ago posted about it, saying that
that this is All Stars five, which will include CBS, other networks and
international casts. It is not exclusive to real world road roles fresh meat,
but then it wasn't it. Pink Rose is the other big sort of info
and insiderer info person. She's disagreed with that. I think pink Rose is
there a big one. I have not seen anything from pink Rose about it,
but it's possible. Yeah, from what I read, she was the
other one that is debating as to what this new thing is all right interesting?
So but forty they're shooting forty right now unless I'm mistaken, So forty
is coming out next, and then this is the new whatever's next is sort
of the question mark. I'm going to be real upset if they start bringing
outside players into All Stars, because All Stars is All Stars for a reason.
I guess it is agreeabl MTV players. Yeah, but I think that
they're like weirdly stuck because MTV seems like it's going to stop being a network
soon. Ish, USA doesn't really work because this has been done on MTV,
this is done on Paramount Plus. Well yeah, yeah, I know,
but the USA show is up in the air because there's no like Argentina
or UK show or so it's like why are they calling it USA? So
there's like this weird what is the future of the Challenge question? And maybe
it's just not All Stars but it's on Paramount Plus or who knows. What
they should do is just drop the USA, just call it the Challenge and
just put on CBS with like all these CBS people and then leave All Stars
for all the MTB like people. Yeah, leave All Stars. The way
that this season is and the way that the last few seasons have been,
where they're fun and light and have people in them that we love. My
perfect world would have the Challenge like the Yeah, the the CBS version would
be the main show. Get rid of the MTV show. It's garbage now,
and then All Stars would be Yes, the o our favorite classic players.
Yeah, well our other new thing. All right, we should we
want to do it, and we want to do an update on the public
one. Yeah, I'll do the update on the Public. So Public League,
whatever Stove, mister Steve is still our top player, cheater. I
you know what I was saying that last week, not that he's I'm I
candn't see you, of Jeen, but I did realize we're talking about last
week, is like, what is to stop someone that wants from being guest
host on here from just like going and googling all the spoilers because the fact
you can change your people every week, you could like perfectly accommodate for the
spoilers. Yeah, but are there spoilers about literally all of the things that
are like how many times someone's fighting with someone else, how many confessionals someone
has? That is I thought the spoilers were really just like who goes home
that week? That is true, And like our private one, it's all
like performance space. I guess that's a good thing about this one of like
is it is like drama based. Yeah, so there's drama and there's romance,
and there's how you're doing in the challenge and all of these different things.
They've all got different category different point category or point nominations denominations for them.
So whatever Stove is still our number one, But I'm closing in real
tight on him a number two, and then we've got Carlin's number two,
yep, and then we've got no quitters in at number three. So listeners,
you better step your game up or I'm gonna take that spot, okay,
where you can hang out at number sixteen with me. That's true,
Yeah, because like I mean, I I that's the thing that I based
my picks this week off of how people did last week and who was shown
in the upcoming Yeah, it looked like, I mean, based off of
last week. Ayana had a lot of drama, and it looked like Cam
was gonna have a lot of drama this week. And she's been getting quite
a few confessionals because that's just who she is. And Kefler kicked ass last
week, so why not throw him in as my third pick? All right,
Carlin just gave away your strategy, guys, now we can copy it.
My strategy is I'm looking for people that are good enough to not go
home this week, but bad enough to not make the end because I want
to leave all my people, the good people for the end. Yeah.
But at the same time, the season is only twelve episodes long, so
you have to kind of weigh that in of like even if you're waiting with
all your good people to the end, like when is that? When do
you want to start throwing them in there? Because like cam Cam scored forty
nine points last week and sixty two this week because I picked her both weeks
because she had so many confessionals and other drama and other things that she was
part of. All right, I guess I gotta put a cam next week.
Then Carlin's Carlin's Carlin's blowing her load right up front. Now I'll know
at the end of the game, She's not gonna have be players to pick
from. Now, watch watch like she's playing up Cam and how good she's
been doing. Can go home next week and we're all going and Carlin's get
back. I tricked you all, just more strategy. It turns out carlick
her one more time. So that's true. I picked Tony this week,
So that was my mistake. Well, how are we doing the private league,
Zach? What's our scores? My similar one? Come on, come
on, come on. Well, just a quick up date for last So
last week we left Tim was in first at twenty three, yeah, Carlan
at twenty me and third and fifteen Wolfy at ten. All right, so
this week in fourth place, scoring a total of zero points for the week,
Wolfy, So what the hell? Because Wolfe had someone go home,
he had I think three people that were in the bottom group. So for
all the points he made, he also lost him with people being in third
place also scoring zero points. It's tim No, Tony, Tony fucked me.
God damn it. I gotta write him a letter. So we got
me and Carlin top two. One of us got twenty seven points. That
was twenty six. Oh you know versus twenty seven and twenty six wait right
scored this week? Or that's what our total? That's our total score.
So so in second place scoring uh six points for the week is Carlin.
That puts you up to twenty six. And I scored an amazing twelve points
because I had both Adam and Avery who won the challenge this week. Rigged
election. Rigged election. Yeah, we should have called it after week one.
We should have. But uh, I do think I didn't know.
It's a mistake, not that I made the math, but I do think
next season, if we do this again, I need to up the points
for elimination wins because I think you need more points for winning eliminations. Yeah,
right now, right now, you get three points, but I think
about last time I was doing it, you lose, you get negative one
point for being in the bottom and negative one for gating voted in, so
ultimately you only get a net positive of one point. Gotcha. So I
think we should bump up to at least four, if not five, so
you get two or three points if you win an elimination. Yeah. Well,
I mean also take a look at the point nominated the point values for
the online version and maybe just take a zero off or like fear o what
they have for the ratio. Yeah, just as a general But yeah,
between between me, Carlin and Tim, it's still neck and neck, and
welf you're there in the game. Well yeah, correct, So what Wolfe
has lost two players and Tim has lost three. Yeah right now, yes,
and then you and I Coyler are both at six still. Yeah,
So to remind everyone, Wolfe's lineup is Cam, Kara, Tina, and
Ryan. He has lost Tyree and Cyrus. Uh, big Uncle, Sweet
Tea is it, Kavla, Brad and Brandon all dudes? Uh. He
has lost Ayana, Tony and Janelle. My team looks so good. My
team looks so good. I'm another the fact that you had Ayana. But
you know whatever, Zachie Bananas still has Steve, Laurel Avery, Adam,
Flora and Derek. And I've still got I still have Brad Ace. Nope,
I'm looking at the wrong thing. Clock on the right one, Carlin.
I still have Rachel Leroy, Nicole, j Veronica and Ace. All
right, Brad hanging on to Brad. Brad's my hope. All right,
See, I still got car in cam. So I think I'm gonna losing.
Losing Tony really hurt me. I'm feeling I'm feeling real bad about myself.
Now. Yeah, just you know, when we get to the end,
I mean, so we'll have to fay o the points. I was
think it's gonna be three third for know, first for winner or boy,
and first for girl. So it was gonna be twelve six three for first,
second, third. But now that I realize we only have one winner,
we refigure out the scoring for ten thousand points to the winner. Ten
thousand points. Seven thousand doesn't matter, y kind of like who lineed it
anyway, The points don't matter, that's right, Yep. So all right,
So you also could join our public league if you head over to challengepod
dot com. And I mean there's still time. Seems a little weird to
jump in after the third episode, but nah, jump in you. Yeah.
You can also go to our Instagram page and join the Instagram page.
You can find all the links there to all of the different things that we
have. I should point out Cindy's also playing. Oh she's doing better than
I am. She doesn't even watch the show. Does she have a good
name? So yes she does. It is Wolfy and Club Nice Sickening.
That's fantastic. Yeah, Cindy's in at thirteenth place with one hundred and seventy
eight, and Wolfe's in at sixteenth place with one fifty seventh, and then
also Zach is in ninth with two forty four, and Big Uncle Sweet Tea
is at sixth with two fifty one, and then I'm a second with three
hundred and one, and our top score right now is three eight. Pretty
close. Carlin's gonna win it. She can guess host on the show next
season. Yeah, yeah, we were tectailer. I think the listener should
be rooting for one of us to win. Because I think of one of
us wins, we're gonna get someone's X on here or current plaything. Nope,
see if we see if we can get Amanda to come back on the
show. Oh good, I won't. I won't be here that week.
Kay. You brought up Oh it was just the never mind, you brought
up the potential of what All Stars five is going to be. I was
trying to figure what it was that she was talking about earlier that we needed
to mention again, ignore me done, Okay, all right, I guess
that's it. Uh. For this episode of Challenge has been Carl in San
Diego, Zachie Bananas, and as Rachel said, this is a clear case
of muscles on muscles. Chie