1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Hey, everybody, welcome back to an episode of Challenge, a podcast all 2 00:00:18,839 --> 00:00:23,359 about the Challenge. We are not hosted by TJ. Leavin, no matter 3 00:00:23,719 --> 00:00:28,559 how many people on the Facebook group seem to think. So. I love 4 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,399 that answer so great. Yeah. Uh, as always, I am Brian 5 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,759 sitting in Germantown Hills with his kid yet again, locked up in the closet, 6 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,960 big n sweet tea. Uh. He just gave her drugs before we 7 00:00:41,119 --> 00:00:45,840 got recordings, So that's how I do it. She came up and asked 8 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,799 for them too. It's very rare that I get to give those to her, 9 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:56,920 very rare, very sadly newly on the no not sad single block. 10 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,079 Is that that's sad at all? Way? Tears, I see it, 11 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:04,640 I see it. She was crying earlier. Yeah, I was just absolute 12 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:15,480 Carlin san Diego and it's his fucking loss. I'm goddamn catch and sitting at 13 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:21,319 work hoping his boss doesn't come back and get in trouble once again. Zachi 14 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:25,159 bananas and yes, I was very worried about that tonight, trying to avoid 15 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,680 the rain. As he told us, Hey, everybody, head over to 16 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,359 the challengepot dot com. Joined the Facebook group and also join our Patreon, 17 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,920 which we'll get into in our Instagram, and you can join our fantasy league, 18 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,879 which we're gonna get up. It's about later in the episode, Carlin 19 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,040 pulled ahead of me, and I'm not happy about it. I'm in both 20 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:51,319 leagues barely, though barely barely. Zach has revealed the host league yet as 21 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:56,879 I no you the host the Yeah, yeah, the website one true true 22 00:01:56,879 --> 00:01:59,439 on the website. I have pulled ahead of him. But that one is 23 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,560 just the if things go wrong. Yeah. I know it's not the official 24 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,000 scores act, but it's still yeah, but another way to compete for being 25 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,960 the unofficial one. Tim, you're not looking so great Bane that you've lost 26 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,639 half your player, I know, I mean, I can't believe it in 27 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:21,439 both of them, so it sucks. It's not the only one. We'll 28 00:02:21,439 --> 00:02:24,800 find out this episode. Yeah, sure, all right, all right, 29 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,840 go for it. We're getting into it, all right. This is an 30 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:30,680 episode number three of All Stars four. This is called True Colors. It 31 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:37,120 starts with my nightmare scenario. The worst way I can imagine starting an episode 32 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,560 of the Challenge with Tina putting on makeup. Do you guys catch this? 33 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:51,080 I didn't even think about it the first the first scene, the first Oh 34 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,039 god, I totally forgot how awkward it would be for you. Hated it. 35 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,120 I hate it. At least it wasn't deorder it deodor. It's way 36 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,240 worse. The lipstick I can sort of deal with. I really hated it 37 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,960 because I just don't I don't need. Like last week was the super awkward 38 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:14,080 like Steve using the thera gun on his nuts. This week it's the super 39 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,199 awkward her putting on not even super rock, it's just her putting on makeup. 40 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,879 I don't I don't need these. The voiceover is horrible. They're so 41 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,199 bad. What are they thinking with this ship? Yeah, I'm disappointed because 42 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:30,319 last week I skipped the previously on you guys said how amazing it was. 43 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,439 I watched this week and I'm like, this is so dumb. No, 44 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,520 we said how awful it was, not how amazing, how awful. Honestly, 45 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,199 it makes me kind of wish that we got the one. Do you 46 00:03:39,199 --> 00:03:43,639 remember a few years ago when like there was the one where Sylvia was eating 47 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:47,599 cake and she like swiped the cake with her finger and sucked the icing off, 48 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:51,960 And there was another one where they are do I remember I remember that 49 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:54,199 the only one that I remember, but there were there were like a bunch 50 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,680 of them that were like these weird little vignettes like that. It makes me 51 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:01,400 wish we got that back, and I think that's what they're trying to kind 52 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,159 of harken back to. But these ones are just not working. Yeah, 53 00:04:05,199 --> 00:04:11,639 I don't like the the voiceover. It's really awkward to me. And these 54 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:15,599 are not These are not good voiceover people. It sounds really authentic. I 55 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:17,439 don't know, I just don't like it. I don't like it, but 56 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:23,759 I mean, it looks like we are in fact going to be getting Oh 57 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,399 did we lose him? It looks like we lost him. It looks like 58 00:04:28,439 --> 00:04:33,879 we are in fact going to be getting the uh previous Nights or previous week's 59 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:43,399 star winner as the like voiceover and host and no, Tim, you just 60 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:45,680 asked, are you there? No, you're not there, You're gone. 61 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:56,120 So do you think next week we get spoiler Veronica and Kefala together? Oh 62 00:04:56,759 --> 00:05:00,879 it would be Rachel and yeah, Rachel and Kefla. Yeah either one. 63 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,480 Rachel over on that I can work. Tim. It says that it can't 64 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,279 display your camera or Mike. Yeah, this is good. I'm sure this 65 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:16,959 won't suck up the audio or whatever. No, not at all. All 66 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:23,519 right, does anybody actually have notes? No? Tim took them all. 67 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,120 So oh wait, maybe back again, Hill. Does this mean that we're 68 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,800 all gonna cut out again like we did a few weeks ago. We're just 69 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:40,160 all of a sudden, everybody peast out. I don't know if it's been 70 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,439 happening. I don't know it's been happening to you guys, But ever since 71 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:46,360 we got on your like, your videos have been like flickering every so often. 72 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:48,839 To me, M, I'm gonna turn off a camera. How about 73 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:53,000 that? Yeah, Tim, you mentioned earlier when we were in the pre 74 00:05:53,079 --> 00:05:55,839 show that looked like lightning had just happened. I just saw that again, 75 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,399 and I don't think it's lightning. I think it's your camera flashing. Well, 76 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:02,120 we are even understorm. There's a thunderstorm out here, so yeah, 77 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,480 but this was This isn't in a like, this isn't on the outside edge 78 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,560 of those curtains. It's on the inside of those curtains. Yeah, I'm 79 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,839 thinking I'm having some power surges or something. Yeah, because the lights are 80 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:15,120 kind of something's happening. So yeah, my internet might have gone out for 81 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,720 half a second or something. Gotcha. I'm just thankful that this season I'm 82 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:26,079 not the problem. It's me. It's me, all right. Well, 83 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:30,319 it seems like Kara has abandoned calling people's targets. But I'm not ready to 84 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:33,519 abandon that yet. And I'm gonna just keep calling people that I can find 85 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,800 that. You're good. You're good with that, Azachi, I'm good with 86 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,879 that. I love that name, all right, me and you are taking 87 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,199 it over. They didn't say it once in this episode. Not once. 88 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:46,000 I didn't even catch that. Yeah, but Tina is the new target. 89 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:49,480 She walks into this house with the with the target on her back. Yeah. 90 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,439 She not only walks into that house with the star, she walks into 91 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,720 that house by listening while Lucky by Britney Spears is playing. And it was 92 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,959 so perfect. It was She's so lucky, She's a star. It said 93 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,199 she's a star as they flashed her picture up. Oh, well done, 94 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,759 editors, well done. That's pretty good. We get the heartwarming scene of 95 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,759 Cam and Lee looking at their phone, which I didn't know they were allowed 96 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,639 to have phones. What's this ship all about? That's why I think Kingston. 97 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:26,199 I think Kingston is there. I think she's pumping and Kingston is there 98 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:29,600 and that's why she's able to have the phone because he's still an infant. 99 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,319 Yeah, I think they made special accommodations, but that is that is shit. 100 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:34,480 I do too when I'm away from my kids, I just look at 101 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,160 pictures of them on my phone. It's pathetic, but I related to this 102 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:43,560 in the same way with Corey looks at polaroids. It's so adorable, just 103 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,399 wonderful. Cam talks about how difficult it is to do this while she's missing 104 00:07:48,399 --> 00:07:57,399 her kid, but being a mom gives her more to fight for. This 105 00:07:57,439 --> 00:08:00,399 is great. I love it. So do you think I think that she 106 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:05,319 would have the same attitude if she and Lee were not but we're not both 107 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:11,160 there, because like if it were just her and Lee was back home, 108 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,519 because right now they have two chances to win, So if she goes home, 109 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,240 then he still could potentially go all the way or vice versa. Do 110 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:26,079 you think she'd still feel the same way, what that she's has more to 111 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,160 fight for? No, Because at one point in time she in this whole 112 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,959 conversation, she said that, you know, she has more to fight for, 113 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,200 but she's also more willing to really go hard. Because if she goes 114 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,399 home, she goes home to the most adorable baby. But if she stays, 115 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:43,360 then she potentially wins two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, Kay 116 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,480 has missed our point that we think Kingston is nearby production. Yeah, that's 117 00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:54,799 our theory. Nothing to back it up except some logic. There's no way 118 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:58,759 she's she's mail in that back, said Lero. I think I think Lee, 119 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,399 I think I think they're having to say that for the show. But 120 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,200 yeah, there's absolutely no way that she is pumping and sending milk back to 121 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,399 him. Because she made a point of saying something about how she was pumping 122 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:11,840 milk for him. There's no way that she's pumping and sending the milk back 123 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:15,799 to him in the States. Yeah, unless she froze it or something, 124 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:18,600 but that would be Yeah, I would imagine like crazy shipping costs. They 125 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,720 had a podcast, apparently he said that on their podcast. I didn't know 126 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,440 they had a podcast. Maybe we're wrong. I mean, either that or 127 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,960 she's just doing a bunch of pumping dumps. Yeah, just keep the production 128 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:33,159 up. I guess, Yeah, that could be. I mean that's a 129 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:39,279 possibility. Yeah, but she said she's sending it to I know she did. 130 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,360 She did mention that, so it makes me, I don't know, 131 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:46,120 I still think that they're Yeah, it seems very bizarre to me that she 132 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:50,440 would be pumping and mailing it from South Africa to the US. Yep. 133 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:54,840 That doesn't saying they must be freezing it. But yeah, but even if 134 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:58,320 they freeze it, like sending it from South Africa to the US, there's 135 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,320 so much chance for something to go wrong and for that to heat up to 136 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,919 a point where it is no longer viable, it's no longer healthy. And 137 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:13,919 plus, plus these alsos are only like what two three weeks they found I 138 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:16,879 think, I think. I think it's actually longer than that now I think, 139 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,200 yeah, but not crazy. I think it's yeah, three or four 140 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,120 weeks, it's not crazy long, not like the eight weeks or whatever. 141 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:28,480 By the time you're just like every day sending milk off from South Africa to 142 00:10:28,519 --> 00:10:33,799 the United States. At some point, it's just like, you know, 143 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:37,399 just we'll have to drink formula until I get home. Like, I don't 144 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:43,799 it's a weird situation. I don't know. Yeah, it just doesn't feel 145 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,279 like it would be something that they'd be willing to mail back because I feel 146 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:52,039 like they're just there are too many possible chances of that going bad. Yeah, 147 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,080 and like even just the slight bit bad and it's no longer viable for 148 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,200 the baby, so or at least people wouldn't feel comfortable with it. I 149 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:05,279 just yeah, it feels it feels like something that the uh stove Steve brought 150 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,840 up the if production really wanted to accommodate Cam on the show, they'd pay 151 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,799 to accommodator. Wouldn't be shocked if they were storing it for and or shipping 152 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:16,480 it back weekly. I mean, I agree, I think that they'd be 153 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,799 willing to accommodate her. I just I think that with it with an infant 154 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:24,600 of that age, and with the star power that Cam and Leroy have, 155 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:28,559 I feel like they'd be more inclined to have him there. But I have 156 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:31,200 him there, I don't know. Jokers a little disappointed. So this is 157 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,519 not the boom talk that I like. I like Shack's idea that they just 158 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:41,159 sent the boom mil Cone with whoever got sent home that week. That'd be 159 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,600 smart. Just send it home in like a like we havebe to a layover 160 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:52,799 in Texas and drop the thought that's right, all right. Ultimately, ultimately 161 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,840 it's like nobody really gives a fuck if you're sending it or not. But 162 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,919 they keep but they keep bringing up the fact that she has to pump, 163 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:03,240 Like every episode they brought it up so far. Yeah, and it's just 164 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:07,519 it's a mystery that I want the actual answer to. It's now we're speculating, 165 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:09,120 and it's funny, is we have the you know, Leroy said it, 166 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,519 but Carlo is still over there, like I don't believe it. Yeah, 167 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:18,720 it seems to me just saying I believe that bullshit liar. Yeah, 168 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:22,960 this is coming from a woman who has never actually had children. I just 169 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,559 want the truth, but I won't believe it when I hear it. No, 170 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:31,840 I obviously know so much about pumping and storing and keeping milk. Uh. 171 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:35,879 We see the first of a couple of different scenes of Rachel, Tina, 172 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,360 and Ayana talking. This is when they're out at the pool. It's 173 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:45,399 kind of when Rachel tries to tell Ayana to just chill the fuck out and 174 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:52,080 calm down because she's freaking everybody out crazy. Yeah. It does a lot 175 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,320 of good too, right, Yeah, you can tell she listened and internalize 176 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,600 it. All, Yeah, she fucking came in on like level twenty, 177 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,080 like girl, I mean I realized that she lost some weight and that she 178 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:07,559 thought that maybe she had a chance. But she also came in and immediately 179 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,080 said, oh, I'm rooming with a champion to Cam, So she obviously 180 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:13,279 knew that she wasn't going to be winning this season. Yeah, so like, 181 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:18,759 chill the fuck out lasts longer than like two fucking episodes. She's I 182 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:20,759 think Brandon says it later in this episode that she's spinning out a little, 183 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:24,799 and you can see it, like she's like she's getting momentum built behind this 184 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:28,120 insanity, Like it's just it's it's spinning up. Yeah, because if she's 185 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:33,919 coming in looking at Cam being like I'm looking at somebody who's a champion or 186 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,200 whatever. Yeah, why she said, And in this episode she's like, 187 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,639 we got to break those motherfuckers up. Yeah, I know, just like 188 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,639 you're nu. Yeah, I could not deal with being around someone like that, 189 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,879 Like I couldn't deal with with being in an alliance with her or being 190 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:56,159 like just her chaotic energy is there's far too much. Yeah, you mentioned 191 00:13:56,159 --> 00:14:01,279 her weight loss, She mentions it too, and she was actually inspired by 192 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,840 Rachel took her part of her fitness program. Rachel kind of consulted with her 193 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:09,440 after hours. Uh so, yeah, it seems like she really owes a 194 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,840 lot of this to Rachel. Yeah, yeah, which I mean good for 195 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:20,039 her, but at the same time, like maybe tone the crazy down a 196 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,360 little bit more than rather than It's like on a personal level, it's like, 197 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,840 good for you. We're happy before you lost weight or since this you 198 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:35,679 feel health since they filmed this, she's had some breast cancer stuff going on. 199 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,639 It's like, you know, we feel for you, We're rooting for 200 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:43,639 you. Man, you are fucking crazy on the show. Yeah, she's 201 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,240 much. Yeah. Even Derek is here saying and who Derek. I can't 202 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,759 recall him ever saying anything negative about anybody, but she is hard to watch. 203 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,480 Yeah, Derek just says that she's she picks and picks on people. 204 00:14:56,519 --> 00:15:01,240 That's what we saw Janelle. She's doing with others, and what she's really 205 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:07,440 doing is just making everybody wish that she was gone. Yeah, bad news, 206 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,559 guys. Tony's leaving this. I was like, oh, I know, 207 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,759 he was like my guy. I was really I was pinning a lot 208 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,559 on him with him gone, and my team's not looking so good anymore. 209 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:26,440 So what's so he went to Nicole because they have a history, right, 210 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:33,600 their original shows together, if I recall that correctly, they were Yeah, 211 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:37,320 so he's got to leave. All he says is family stuff. He says 212 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,360 something about an emergency. We know nothing else. He says something about his 213 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:46,840 brother, his brother challenge before. Yes, if it's the same brother, 214 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,279 Shane Zach from social media, Do we know anything about what happened with Tony? 215 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,919 Uh? We did not. I tried looking it up. I checked 216 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:58,759 read it. There's a whole thread about it, and everyone seems to say 217 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:03,200 that they cannot find any information on it. Yeah, so I did the 218 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,320 same thing. I tried to see if I can find it. It seems 219 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,360 like it was whatever it was, was kept pretty under wraps. Yeah. 220 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:14,360 I saw some theories. Yeah, nothing proven, So I'm not gonna justify 221 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,840 the rumors. But he search on Reddit, Yeah, if you're if you're 222 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,759 curious, Caitlin's pointing out that Steve was in the background with the Sea Pap 223 00:16:21,879 --> 00:16:26,159 machine on. Yeah, it's nice to know he's a Seapat brother. Yeah, 224 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,519 solidarity with him, all right? That makes me love Steve even more. 225 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:36,440 Exactly your seapat brother. I am all right, Carling and your pap 226 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,759 sister, all three of you brothers. No, I'm not a brother. 227 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,440 No I should I got tested, dude, I'm not. I don't. 228 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:48,519 I don't have the thing. Do you snore? Yeah, but mine is 229 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,799 not a life threatening snore. It's the it's a fun, charming snore. 230 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,799 You know, one of those. There is no such thing. Shove it 231 00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:59,440 up your asskar On, there is too. I remember when I got tested 232 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,320 there it's not I don't know what yours was, well of you, but 233 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,359 I think when I got tested, I said something like, if it's like 234 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,279 over fifteen times at night you stopped breathing, it was bad and I was 235 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:15,920 over one hundred. Mine was about that. Yeah, that's the the Aussie 236 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:22,680 is the same. Yeah. So he went to Australia, had sexy time 237 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:29,799 and then he's like, good night. That's the way it goes. This 238 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,319 is the way it goes, Sindy. I'll tell you. I told her 239 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,119 up front. I'm like, I'm just warning you. I have to use 240 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:40,079 a seapap. And I found out when I started using my seatpap that apparently 241 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,519 I grind my teeth in my sleep. So I have to put my start 242 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:48,799 in just letting you know he's half robot. What he said, it's gonna 243 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:52,799 be. It's gonna be very sexy the moment that the lights going. So 244 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,799 that's always my least favorite discussion to have when I meet someone. That's like, 245 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,960 just so you know, if we sleep over, this is gonna be. 246 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,920 I'm gonna be wearing this on you. If that's as bad as it 247 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,680 gets, Zach, that's not so bad. I don't know if you've used 248 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,759 this, Zach. This is what I This is how I coach it. 249 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,880 I was like, but if I don't use it, I snore so loud 250 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:25,880 it sounds like two grizzly bears fighting each other. So you could either be 251 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:29,920 like, I'm so turned off the fact that he wears it, or you 252 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,640 can get actual sleep. It's the getting actual sleep, And I mean, 253 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,240 at least for me, it's just white noise in the background. You don't 254 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,680 need to be turned on while you're sleeping, like you don't need to be 255 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,559 attractive when you're and usually the lights are on or off with with all of 256 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:47,519 that gets put on, so no one really sees it most of the time 257 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:52,680 anyway, Yeah, who cares guys who cares. I don't like. I 258 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,599 wish more women to use them, to say, oh yeah, I'm sure 259 00:18:56,599 --> 00:19:00,880 there are plenty of women out there who really should be using them. Zach. 260 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,880 Then that's to you. Be proud, be proud of your seat, 261 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,359 pet. I will do my bad. The conversations tonight, it just got 262 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,119 off the fucking rails. Well, Tony says, don't worry, guys, 263 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:15,640 you'll set them clocks back. You'll set them clocks again because Tony time will 264 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,519 return. I did appreciate that. I do hope he comes back, because 265 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:23,119 as much as much as he is never going to win, he's he's never 266 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,920 you know, he's such a fucking dummy. I love him. I love 267 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,519 him. You can't finish the season, Jesus, No, we can't. 268 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:37,440 He hasn't been able to finish a season since I. Let's see, he's 269 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:44,319 had to leave. He has either been kicked off by elimination or he's had 270 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,759 to leave early in every single one of his seasons. You're right. It 271 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,680 was only one time when he was in the final vendettas. Oh, that's 272 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,839 right. He did make it to the final vendetas where he backed he backed 273 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:59,240 throwing bananas in it was the big backstabbing. Yep, I forgot about that. 274 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,079 He's just a big dumb he just he's like a labrador. He's just 275 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,359 he's so dumb. But he just like I think he has really good intentions. 276 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,799 He's just so, I mean, he does now he There were there 277 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:19,440 were a few years there where he I was I was real questionable about whether 278 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,359 we should even have him on the years that like he was back in corner 279 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:29,079 Camilla into a corner and almost fighting, starting fights with his brother and which 280 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,319 I mean, I get sibling rivalry and all that sort of thing, but 281 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,039 you're on national television. Cut that ship out. There were definitely a few 282 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,720 that a few seasons where I was a little in there. He had he 283 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:42,920 had a big turn around though, so which is good for him. Yeah, 284 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,480 yep, I hope you caet to see him again. I always love 285 00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:51,279 seeing Tony. Yeah, but I hope. So. We never thought that 286 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:56,680 the last one would be Nelson's last season. I feel I feel pretty safe 287 00:20:56,759 --> 00:21:00,839 we're gonna see Tony again soon. He was he was at the last Challenge 288 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:06,519 Mania. I feel like we'll see him again soon. Goose Force says, 289 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:08,880 I figured he would have ten kids with ten different women by now. So 290 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,880 good for him, I guess. Honestly, Goo's forced me too. I 291 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,839 was entirely expecting his relationship with baby Mama number two to not work out and 292 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,640 for him to have at least baby not Mama number three by now. Yeah, 293 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:30,240 if he if he offers you eggs, just say no. Don't bring 294 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:37,480 up his She didn't bring up his mommy. He brother. I love that 295 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:41,720 guy. He's so stupid. That whole scene is just, oh god, 296 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,559 it's great. You know. I have to say this right now because someone 297 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:53,279 in the in the Facebook last week mentioned how this season we all seem much 298 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:57,960 happier and it's more fundeless to him sort of thing, and I had to 299 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,839 comment, like, yes, sorry, we were all real miserable last season. 300 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:07,480 Last season, just this conversation, Just how many laughs we've already had 301 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:11,039 in the first like ten minutes of the show. Oh god, this is 302 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,200 so much better. This is the challenge I love with the people I love 303 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,559 and stuff. Yes, this last MTV Challenge was a slog. The episodes 304 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:22,319 were too fucking long and dark, and nobody's fun or funny or interesting. 305 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,160 Yeah, there's just so much about it. But yes, I'm very happy 306 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,799 with how this season is going, and I wish they did more seasons like 307 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,599 this. I feel like I was the most positive one about last season. 308 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,799 I was like, no, it's not that bad. Guys. Now watching 309 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:37,240 this one, I'm like, oh, I've got how good the show could 310 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,960 actually be. Yeah, it was so bad last season. It was we 311 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:48,119 get Laurel and Nicole. They speak for the first time, ostensibly because Laurel 312 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,920 is comforting Nicole because Nicole missus Tony. Laurel thinks she can help and support. 313 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,880 I think she has alter your motives, what do you guys thinks alterior 314 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,480 motives. But at the same time, I did kind of appreciate that she 315 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:07,200 was lending a little empathy yea, even though it's got ulterior motives to it, 316 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,880 and even though it's gonna come back to bite all of them in the 317 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,039 ass pretty soon, because I don't even think she thinks she has ulterior motives. 318 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,559 I think ultimately she in her mind is like, I know how Nicole 319 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,680 gets when she gets really upset about something, Tony leaving is upset, I 320 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:29,599 should go make sure she's okay, not realizing she's doing it because she's still 321 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,200 it's a continuation of her like I am so over her. She's a distant 322 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,960 memory, She's nothing to me, Like she's just convincing herself. This is 323 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,240 probably some of that same shit. Yep, totally is, and a fact. 324 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:56,240 We are onto the challenge, motherfucker. That's it. Before we get 325 00:23:56,279 --> 00:24:00,119 to the challenge, TJ has to bring in somebody to her place. Tony 326 00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:07,160 so out runs Cyrus. Cyrus is looking good. Yeah you've said that, 327 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:14,200 Carlyn. Is it? Uh? Is? Was it anybody else? Cyrus 328 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:18,640 is on my fantasy team for the host one. Yeah? Is it bad 329 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,319 that I didn't realize he wasn't on the show at this point? I didn't 330 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:25,799 either, dude. I only noticed last week when I was doing that the 331 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,680 score. I'm like, wait, what where's Cyrus at? Oh my god? 332 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:33,599 They connected dot Tom Like someone must like get metavact or something. He 333 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,160 has Himmonly, I didn't realize that either. Oh yeah, it's it's weird. 334 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,880 I he just slid under the radar. Yeah, he says he's in 335 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,319 the best shape of his life. So Carlin, you're not wrong. He's 336 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:48,519 he looks good. He's uh, he's ready to play this game. Yeah, 337 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,680 they've got quite a yet, everybody, everybody has. Almost everybody on 338 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,440 there seems to have kind of come into their into their later in life looks, 339 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,200 and it's it. You know, quite a few of them are hitting 340 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:08,319 right. Oh yeah, he's a Zaddi. Yeah him, Kafla them that 341 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:15,960 needs some alone time. The name of this challenge, anybody want to say 342 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:22,640 it? Hmm, I don't know, are you serious? Domino motherfucker? 343 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,519 I do remember that yet it was motherfucker actually part of it. Yeah, 344 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,559 on the screen. Yeah, I totally miss that. I love it. 345 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:38,839 I love it. So I was like, that's right, that's because t 346 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,880 J said Domino motherfucker. I had is just like saying that. But then 347 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:47,079 they pulled up like the chiron of the challenge name and then actually said motherfucker 348 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:53,480 on it started out. Totally forgot that on Paramount because it's on there and 349 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,480 not on MTV, they can actually say all the words. I didn't even 350 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,480 think about that. I think they did, they believe did they bleep motherfucker? 351 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:08,079 They definitely start out the letters. Yeah, it's text. I'm sure 352 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:14,039 there's still some like weird thing with that, but yep. Well, this 353 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,079 game is played in pairs, and basically the pairs will run enormous dominoes that 354 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,359 look like they look like doors is actually what I think they are, and 355 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,480 they have to lay them out in a very specific pattern to get to the 356 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:29,799 middle. I think they just have to lay them out in order. They 357 00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:32,640 say very specific pattern, but I think it's just an orders just counting down 358 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:41,079 from twelve. Well, I think there's there's a there's a design that they 359 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:44,680 can lay it out because there are tim will point out there are extra ones 360 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,759 in there. Yeah, because I think you have to make sure it lines 361 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,880 up with the the end of your row, in the beginning of your row. 362 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,319 Yeah, so everything in the middle has to like match up. Yeap. 363 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,079 So it is a puzzle, it's not just an endurance competition. Yeah, 364 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,599 there's only one way to solve this thing, and yeah, there's extra 365 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,799 pieces. So yeah, this is when we find out it's a double elimination. 366 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,759 One man and one woman is going home by the end of this day. 367 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,440 Kind of change. Why didn't they just why didn't they just let Tony 368 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:17,279 go and then just do a female elimination. I wondered that myself, maybe 369 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,920 just because they there wouldn't be a dude to run this exact challenge with right, 370 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,480 there'd be a leftover woman right now. Oh yeah, sure, they 371 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:30,519 wouldn't have pairs, I guess, so I guess just then just bring tyreeback, 372 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:36,200 ye something like that. Yeah, so weird. It is weird how 373 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,000 they change the rules. Yeah, because I don't think that people actually immediately 374 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 go home. I'm pretty sure they go to a hotel for like two or 375 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,599 three weeks, and then they send a home a whole group of people together, 376 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,920 and sometimes they do bring back the last eliminated person. It's weird that 377 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,720 they didn't do that. Yeah, it's I mean, it all seems very 378 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,759 arbitrary how this all happened sometimes. Yeah, considering they didn't bring in an 379 00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:02,400 alternate for Janelle, Yeah yeah, because hers was right before the elimination. 380 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,440 I guess, so they didn't need an extra person. Yeah. The whole 381 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,680 thing's weird. Which I don't know about all of you though, But if 382 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,160 they had brought back Tyree and he just immediately went back and the elimination went 383 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,920 home again, I would be buried down on this episode. I would love 384 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:25,039 it. I would think that would make it even better for me. Oh, 385 00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:29,119 poor Tyrie. He now officially has the worst record in the challenge. 386 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Right, he does, I believe. Oh yeah, Uh, well, 387 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,119 in this particular game, the two people that win, those are the winners. 388 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,720 Obviously, they're five pairs in the middle. Those are the middle group 389 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:44,039 that have all the power, and then everybody else is at the bottom. 390 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:48,480 Uh. And yeah, like I said, double elimination pig stakes h and 391 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:51,119 TEJ just says, hey, pair up, find your partner. I like 392 00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:53,559 it when TJ does this. It's kind of a little uh, introduces some 393 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,680 randomness into this pairings. Yeah, it's kind of fun. It can the 394 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,160 popularity contest, but yeah, you can usually guess who's gonna end up with 395 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,400 who. And for the most part that yeah, people ended up with who 396 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,400 we thought they wouldn't. The big thing is Lee, Ry and Cam don't 397 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,440 team up together. Yep. If they lose, they would both be in 398 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,119 the bottom. Yep. Smart And I thought that immediately. I was looking 399 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,680 to them being like, I hope they did not pair up together, and 400 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,079 I was happy to see it in Yeah, I think Cam is too smart 401 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,759 to do that. I bet you. She told Lee like we cannot if 402 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,240 there's anything She probably told him before the season started, like, if there's 403 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:33,240 anything where we need to be on teams or on partners or whatnot. We 404 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,759 need to try our fucking damnedest to not be on the same team, because 405 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,519 I mean, even though we haven't seen it where like it's partners like this, 406 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:47,039 in most episodes or most seasons, we have seen things where alliances have 407 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,880 been in they've all been partnered on the same or put on the same team 408 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,519 together, or you hear them talking their confessionals about how, oh, you 409 00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:56,960 know, we're You would think that we'd all want to be on the same 410 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,680 team, but we're really we're splitting things up or adding someone into our team 411 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,240 of all of our alliance who's not part of our alliance, so we have 412 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,759 a sacrificial lamb, things like that, and I think Cam is smart enough 413 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:15,160 to realize that that's what she needs to do. Yep, for this competition. 414 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,599 I'll be honest, this was boring to watch. I don't have any 415 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,960 notes if anything important that happened. Do you guys have anything that you guys 416 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,880 want to talk about? Yes? What Wolfe sent it in a text? 417 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:34,599 Oh have stupid Brad and Rachel muscles on muscles, no brains between them. 418 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:41,079 She and Brad start laying out their puzzle. They're dominoes without thinking about how 419 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,000 it's going to line up, and they get almost everything out there and then 420 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,799 realize that they it doesn't match up at the end, and her confessional says, 421 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,319 well, well, this was muscles on muscles. Whoops. I think 422 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,200 I think we might have just stolen Wolfi's closing line. You did, right, 423 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,279 Yeah, I mean the only other thing that I remember from it was 424 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:07,680 Cam and whoever she was with Derek. They were trying to they were trying 425 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,279 to put their dominoes in order at the starting point and then bring them all 426 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,440 out, but I think that took them longer than it probably needed to. 427 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,839 So Nicole was doing that too with whoever she was teamed up with. Doo. 428 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,680 I don't remember Jay kay once to know Wolfe, could you do this 429 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:26,759 challenge? Yes? I could. Yeah, I think all of us could 430 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:30,400 do this challenge, but I do, well probably probably not. I do 431 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,319 enjoy a good, good game of dominoes, so that would be good. 432 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:41,799 And I feel like I'm one of those people that even if I'm like blowing 433 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,680 hot air because I'm about to have a heart attack, I'm still the type 434 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,000 that's like, Nope, push through, push through. Let's just got to 435 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,240 get this done. Let's get it done. And I was thinking the best 436 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,880 strategy and I think I think Adam and a Room have done it. But 437 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,359 whoever it was that you go to the middle first and you start building it 438 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,880 backwards. I thought that was really smart to do. Yeah, I agree, 439 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,119 start with the the endpoint. Yeah, yep, I do have that. 440 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,599 Brad and Rachel they it's really important that they win because they're both targets. 441 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,599 That's right. Gotta bring that one up whenever I can, yep. 442 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:22,839 But unfortunately they don't. They don't. Yeah, they do. Adam and 443 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,359 Avery are the ones that win. And Adam is a starget himself, so 444 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,799 you know, so that's we need to get Derek and Ryan to get stars 445 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:39,599 because then we could call them stargazing. That's pretty good. That take a 446 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:45,799 second. That was fantastic. That was that was good, well done, 447 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,920 Zach. I like that one, all right. So the middle group we 448 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,400 have is Kara and Ace, Nicole and Jay, Laurel and Brandon, Jasmine 449 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,200 and Steve, cam and Ryan. That makes the losers Leroy and Flora, 450 00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:06,000 Rachel and Brad, Derek and Veronica, Ayanna and cyrus Kefla and Tina other 451 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,440 than again, Rachel and Brad. I don't think there's many surprises here. 452 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,599 I guess leave it. I mean, this is the second team, this 453 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,920 is what the second or third challenge in a row. The Leroy has been 454 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,079 in the bottom. Yeah, he's not doing so good. How did Veronica 455 00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:28,079 outperform Rachel and Tina her partner? Who is her partner again? Derek? 456 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,200 Yeah? Derek and Veronica? Yeah? Really? Yep? Wow, that 457 00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:38,720 seems surprising because they're both little people. Yeah, little people. They're losers 458 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:46,240 though they lost. They are Rachel, Rachel, Tina, and Veronica were 459 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,240 all in the loser's bracket. Yeah. Yeah, Flora, Oh I missed 460 00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:53,519 that? Okay, yeah, Flora, Rachel, Veronica, and Tina. 461 00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:00,960 Okay, gotcha? Whatever? All right, So this is when we get 462 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,720 sort of the pivotal point as to the whole episode. This is where Flora 463 00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:09,599 is talking to Brandon about what Ayana said. Walking away from the challenge. 464 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:15,119 Iana said something to Brandon about splitting up. I'm sorry, Anna said something 465 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:22,119 to Cyrus about splitting up Leroy and Cam. Brandon overheard that and reported it 466 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:28,840 back to the house. We get shown the chesscam footage. Now, word 467 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,480 for word, guys, this is what Ianna says, I took it word 468 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,400 for word because I think it's important. It's gonna be between you, Kefla, 469 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:38,039 Derek and Leroy. A lot of people want to try to break up 470 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:44,320 that alliance between Cam and Leroy because whichever way Lee votes, Cam votes. 471 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,599 That's what Ianna said. She did not say that she wanted to throw them 472 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,320 in or that she was targeting it, And I'm not even sure she implied 473 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,760 it. I don't know what do you guys think. I think she implied 474 00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:00,719 that it was being talked about in the house, not necessarily implied that she 475 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,559 wanted to throw them in. Yeah, I said that said that you got 476 00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:10,280 to break them up, though I think she said she said a lot of 477 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,039 people want to try to break up that alliance between Cam and Leroy, not 478 00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:20,559 that. But you know, I think Brandon did to Iana what Iana did 479 00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:23,079 to Janelle, So I have no sympathy. I don't either, and I 480 00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:28,119 don't think Brandon's lying. But I do wonder, especially with how Ianna reacted, 481 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,800 I wonder if that's not what she meant because this is or maybe we 482 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,920 didn't see exactly what she said that made Brandon think what he thought. But 483 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,800 there's enough plausible the diability that like, I kind of believe that Iona didn't 484 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,719 mean that the way that Brandon interpreted it. You know, I I don't. 485 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,599 I don't I agree with you what she said. I don't think she 486 00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:50,880 directly said it. I don't know if I believe that she didn't mean it 487 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,840 that way, or if it's kind of a thing of being like, hey, 488 00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:55,760 I can't make this move, but this is a move that could be 489 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,079 made, and as long as my hands are clean, like, I'm okay 490 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,840 with it. Yeah, And I guess there is some element of that's that's 491 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,960 like, oh, look at Carlon, good luck Kron like like like Rusty 492 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,119 in a vacation that we can't hear it, Karon, that's a throwback reference. 493 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:20,000 Uh, it's allergy season and humidity is fluctuating, so letty noses are 494 00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,719 a real common thing right now. Uh yeah, it's a good look. 495 00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:27,559 I should just should just leave that Linux hang out of your nose all the 496 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,880 time. Don't take a screenshot for the instagram. Joker, Yeah, joker, 497 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:37,920 don't look look away. It's gonna ruin your crush. All right. 498 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,000 Well, that's that's the line. We'll get back to the line later, 499 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,400 I guess when Iana is is uh defending it. Later we see kefla Insie, 500 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,400 they catch up. It's kind of nice seeing a bunch of a couple 501 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,280 of old dudes uh chatting again after uh not seeing each other for forever. 502 00:36:53,840 --> 00:37:00,320 Yeah, it's always nice. Yeah, I mean all right, and now 503 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,920 we get party night. Party night in the house is weird? Have we 504 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,840 seen this party night yet with this weird RV and ship in the yard? 505 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,239 Yeah? They had this is like the second or third club night with this 506 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,400 r V thing. I think, so, I don't know. I stay. 507 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,119 I feel like they've only been doing it in the house. Okay, 508 00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:19,679 well, yeah, the RV thing was weird to me. I don't remember 509 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,719 that before. I don't remember that. I wonder if that's the r V 510 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,480 from last week's challenge. And Teja just like dropped in the backyard after the 511 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:30,639 challenge. No, maybe many disagrees with me. Sorry many, But oh 512 00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:37,000 my god, did you guys hear that? Yeah, I don't know what 513 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:43,000 your child doing. I don't know some so drunk on melitone. My other 514 00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:51,440 child could be too too. Yeah that's what he was talking about. So 515 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:58,679 we we have cam approaching Rachel Kara and Laurel that this this is the party 516 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,400 night, telling everybody that Iana is targeting her. Most people kind of don't 517 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,400 believe this, and Laurel is just like, fuck this, why are we 518 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,360 even talking about it. I'm just gonna go talk to Aana and see what's 519 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:14,039 up. So this is where the we see the IVY or IVY r V. 520 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,800 She goes to talk to Aana, and Aana just says, like, 521 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,920 what I never said that? Uh? And I guess that's the end of 522 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:29,199 this scene. Does this lend any credence to what on his position? Guys? 523 00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:31,519 I mean, I kind of just feel like they're doing exact same thing 524 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,840 to her that she did to Janelle, which has been said already. But 525 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,559 yeah, yeah, sorry commerce a bitch. Yeah, I don't have any 526 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,119 I don't have any sympathy, but I do. I I kind of wonder 527 00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:46,639 if I Hada was not targeting them. I just wonder that. Yeah. 528 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,400 And I think someone like you know, Leroy before last week probably would have 529 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,920 stepped in and like stood up for her, I think, but after her 530 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,159 long speech and all the drama she could, I think everyone that would have 531 00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:00,760 had her back was like, yeah, I'm not I'm not going to fight 532 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,079 for you this time. Yeah, yeah, she really fucked over that possibility. 533 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,679 Yeah. I think that that's where this comes from. I think even 534 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,199 if there are people that are sort of like, oh, maybe I believe 535 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,400 her, they're also just sort of like, well, she deserves this, 536 00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:15,679 so fuck it, you know. I think that's kind of where everybody's at. 537 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,360 Well, and I mean, with what's about to happen, I think 538 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,840 they're all correct. Yeah, I mean it seems like, well, we 539 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,840 were shown her and Rachel are prey close from even off the show, and 540 00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:28,360 it even seemed like Rachel, you know, her that she's the target, 541 00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:31,039 was just like well to try to fix and didn't even like really put in 542 00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:35,800 any work to favor. I don't know. I think that Ayanna has shared 543 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,719 a lot with Rachel, but I don't feel like Rachel feels like they're actually 544 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,360 close. I feel like that is a business relationship for Rachel, and so 545 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,960 she will she will give the the empathy and the sympathy and the help where's 546 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,800 where it's needed when there's a business relationship happening. But it's her actual game 547 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,079 and shit's on the line. She's not gonna stick her neck neck out for 548 00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:00,440 someone who she's not actually in a real alliance. Well, you know she 549 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,920 Rachel was the one that originally stept to go fund me for Ayana's Are you 550 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,320 saying that she only did that to she got to keep that monthly payment coming 551 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:14,800 in that money? No? I mean again, like we talked about this 552 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,159 earlier, Like there's a there's a difference between the real life ship where Iona 553 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,840 is going through cancer and has all of this shit happening in her life and 554 00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:27,840 the game ship, like Rachel's not gonna do ship for in the game, 555 00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:30,440 but in real life, Like, yeah, who wouldn't set up a go 556 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:36,519 fund me for a friend of theirs who's going through major cancer battles and has 557 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,480 four kids that they have to provide for. So I agree with that. 558 00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:43,360 I do think it's more fun though, just to pretend Rachel's like only continue 559 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:49,119 like keeping the money. But yes, so you alluded to it, Carlin. 560 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,760 But this is where Cam confronts Iana about this whole thing. Iana just 561 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,480 says, Hey, I don't want to talk about this right now. I'm 562 00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:58,119 tired. I don't want to talk game right now. Cam pushes it a 563 00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:01,159 little bit, and I on a fucking and freaks out. Yeah, but 564 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,400 Cam pushes a little bit in private, it's just the two of them in 565 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,039 that room, and I would I mean, I would have done the same 566 00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:13,400 shit. Like, girl, I'm hearing that you're trying to go for me 567 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,719 and my partner. Like what, I need you to give me a little 568 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,159 bit more than just saying that you're tired and you don't want to talk about 569 00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:24,280 this right now, because that makes me feel like you are really going for 570 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,599 us. Like if you if you refute it a little bit and kind of 571 00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:30,760 give me some bad like give me some instances as to why you're not going 572 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:37,599 for us and help me understand why someone will be saying that, then I'm 573 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:42,320 more likely to back off. But yeah, you just flip in your fucking 574 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,119 lid is not gonna help. Yeah, I feel like, you know, 575 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,400 uh, just like oh, you know, talking with the kel Fiers syrsh 576 00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,440 talking about it and be like yeah, like they asked me what to do 577 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,639 and I said, here's the names I've heard in yours was one of them. 578 00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:55,960 But like, you'll be honest, be like I never three yeund the 579 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,039 bus. I just said, hey, here's the names that are out there. 580 00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,239 But I knew year I was gonna pick up steam. Yeah, I 581 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:07,079 think Iana just has no goodwill in this house at all. So even even 582 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,519 you know Cam, it would have taken a little bit of good will to 583 00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:10,880 be like, oh, yeah, you know, we'll talk about it this 584 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,159 in the morning, no problem. But I doesn't even have that amount of 585 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:20,079 goodwill. So yeah, I don't think she has the wherewithal to either. 586 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,039 She doesn't have the wherewithal to sit there and tell her like, look, 587 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:27,239 you know, I happen to mention to Kathla, but there was a good 588 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,400 chance that people were going to go for you guys, because you are a 589 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,199 strong alliance. I don't think she is the wherewithal to say that. But 590 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,679 I also it makes me wonder if she really did, at some point in 591 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,320 time say something allude along the lines of like yeah, we should go for 592 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,960 Cam and Leroy. And that's why she couldn't just come out and say something 593 00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:45,039 like that. But yeah, whatever, we will never know. But Iana 594 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:49,760 just goes around, she's flipping out, and this is where she points directly 595 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,000 at Brandon and says like was it you? Was it you who told everybody 596 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,119 this? And Brandon just like, I haven't even spoken to you, how 597 00:42:55,159 --> 00:43:00,920 would I say anything? Which is just great, straight up to her face. 598 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,440 Great. Hey, I mean, with as much shit as he has 599 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,920 had to take over the years, I loved seeing him just be like my 600 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:14,599 problem. I am so happy seeing him back on the show. Yeah, 601 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,960 it's a lot. I love this guy. He is just the chillest dude. 602 00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:20,800 I just love this guy. Yeah, he's chill, but he's he's 603 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,800 a little messy and it's kind of fun. Remember when he got drunk before 604 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:31,039 the elimination and got himself disquality. I forgot about that. Yeah, freshman 605 00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:37,239 too against and Sydney, that's right. Yeah, because they just wanted to 606 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,280 give them a chance to run the elimination or something because his partner was injured 607 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,440 or I forget how. Yeah, Caitlyn got injured. So they were just 608 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,360 gonna like go and like cross the starting line, then sit down so Sydney 609 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,719 could take the time and like see the entire course and then that's not flying. 610 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,039 Yeah, because he because he was drunk. Yeah that was great. 611 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,199 Uh so AA is continuing to flip out, yell that, Jasmine. Jasmine 612 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,480 flips out in return, yells out, Now you're gonna see the bride of 613 00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:10,320 Chucky, which I appreciated so good. Yeah, because apparently she and Jasmine 614 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:16,360 have been in and talks outside of the house like shit's gone down in Jasmine's 615 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,719 life and Iana has been the one that she's called to like have it be 616 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,159 a shoulder to cry on, which I found kind of strange, Like, 617 00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,519 of all people in the challenge, that's who you you've been talking to. 618 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,320 Well, she said, outside of the house, Iona is very different, 619 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,159 which I sort of I can see. I would think that outside of the 620 00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:37,480 house. I bet Ana's very supportive and very generous, and you know, 621 00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:40,920 I bet I bet it's the stress and the insanity of the house that makes 622 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,400 her act like this. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I'm sure 623 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,960 the stress in the chaos the house is part of it. But you can't 624 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,320 be that different, like all that shit's still laying under the surface, Like 625 00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:58,360 that's It's not like she became a completely different person when she came into the 626 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,880 house. Yeah, it's the same person that she was the last time she 627 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,039 was here. She was still just as nuts. Then. I bet she's 628 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:09,400 a big gossip outside of the house. You're telling me Jazz is not going 629 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:19,000 to sit down with her and just gossip about everybody. That all right? 630 00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:23,119 So where was I yes, uh Ayana is yes, having problems here. 631 00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:27,079 Rachel pulls her aside and gives her the exact same advice as before, just 632 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:29,239 like, hey, calm down, don't let them get to you out. 633 00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:31,840 Yeah, it's like this advice is not landing Rachel, but good on you. 634 00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:37,719 You keep trying. This is another pumping conversation, since we haven't had 635 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:43,360 enough talk about pumping milk. Lee and Cam are sitting there talking while Cam 636 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,679 pumps, and Cam just says, do you find her pumping awkward or is 637 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,800 it just the makeup? No? I didn't find the pumping awkward. I 638 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,559 know it's weird, it makes no sense. I know. I'm telling you 639 00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,599 guys, it's it's some trauma from my childhood that has yet to be unearthed. 640 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,320 No, I was not uncomfortable with at all. Did you interrupt your 641 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,039 mom when she was put on makeup and she's like, spanks you or something 642 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,280 something something happened that it's I have a I have a big aversion. It's 643 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,840 like, yeah, I just I can't even look at it. I know, 644 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,679 well, you know, we all of our things, you know, 645 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,679 what can I says? Uh? So, Basically, what it comes down 646 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,039 to is everybody knows it's gonna be Ayana who's going in there. Uh, 647 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,800 and the main priority of the house is really just like, let's get rid 648 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,159 of Ayana, who has the best chance of eliminating her, And of course 649 00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:43,239 it's gonna be Rachel. But Brandon does his vote with if I could vote 650 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,679 for Ryana twice, I would, but because of ant but if I did, 651 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,960 she'd come back. So well, this is this is the conversation immediately 652 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:57,360 immediately before nominations, because yeah, Cara, this is where Kara and Rachel 653 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,840 are are talking. And car Is pretty much say, yeah, it's probably 654 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,760 gonn me and Ayana, and Carra says, well, we're both targets and 655 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,840 I cannot vote for a starget and you shouldn't vote for a starget either, 656 00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:10,440 because you are one. So yeah, Kara just basically makes it well known 657 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,639 that as long as she is holding a star she will not vote for a 658 00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:17,320 star holder. What do you guys think of this? This? I wonder 659 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,920 if she if she's actually if she actually won't vote for a star holder, 660 00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:27,119 or if she just won't vote for a strong star a star holder, because 661 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,960 I have a feeling that she thinks that a competitive like an accompetition between her 662 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:39,280 and Rachel be really difficult to try and get a star back. But if 663 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,000 she voted for someone like Tina, couldn't she Well, she could have voted 664 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,719 for Tina, a star holder Tina, and she didn't true a s target 665 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:54,159 Tina, sorry starget. Yeah. Yeah, I think that this pertains to 666 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,760 strong players. I don't know that it pertains to all star holders. Yeah, 667 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,440 well we'll see, We'll see how this goes. So yeah, so 668 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,880 now we are in denominations. God, damn it, M say my name, 669 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,159 bitch. I'm sorry, don't say my name, bitch. Very dish. 670 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,480 I could have like a chat window and the median window open at the 671 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,599 same time, but I can't. Oh yeah that is a bummer. Yeah 672 00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:22,519 they should, all right. So, in terms of the men, there's 673 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:25,440 no debate. I don't even remember if there's a vote. It's pretty much 674 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,639 just Cyrus and Kevla and everybody just sort of agrees, and that is what 675 00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:34,360 it is. Women, there is a few more debates. It seems clear 676 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,159 that it's going to be I on En and Rachel. The people that don't 677 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:43,079 vote for Rachel all have their reasons why not, but they all know it's 678 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:46,559 kind of inevitable. It's gonna be them. Flora kind of catches a lot 679 00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:52,760 of the burn votes. Yeah, yeah she does. Uh what do you 680 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,639 guys think about cam freaking out of the fact that I guess not freaking out, 681 00:48:55,639 --> 00:49:01,000 but being really upset over the fact that Kara didn't Rachel hated it. 682 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,360 Hated this flashbacks of the bathtub cam. Remember that bathtub Yeah, that's what 683 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,239 I was gonna say. She felt real entitled right here, right I hated 684 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,360 this version of cam right here. Yeah. Yeah, it was like just 685 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,440 because you have Lee here and you are known as kill a cam, like, 686 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,639 I don't know it just yeah, it rubbed me the wrong way. 687 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,360 She felt real entitled, very bratty. On top of that, by the 688 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,840 time Cara said a name, unless they edited it really weird. By the 689 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,719 time Carra said a name, it didn't matter if she voted for Rachel or 690 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,960 not. Yeah, that's what caj put in the chat room. Did Carra 691 00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:39,639 really go last? Because yes, it made no difference. So why are 692 00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:43,599 we making this an issue. Let Kara do her thing. It does not, 693 00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:47,079 It has no impact. I mean maybe if she wasn't actually the person 694 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:51,199 to go last, it would have made a little bit of a difference, 695 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,639 but the way that it was edited, Yeah, it made it look like 696 00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:58,679 she was the last person to vote, in which case, who gives a 697 00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:00,239 shit. Yeah, it was also weird too. I don't know if you 698 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,840 guys caught it. Jasmine said something weird like she voted for Rachel and Iana, 699 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,400 and then a second or two later she's like, oh, but I'm 700 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,639 doing it in support of you too, Cam, Like, just I just 701 00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:10,960 want to make sure that's known. Even though I voted for who you wanted 702 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,800 me to, I want to make sure it's known that I also did it 703 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,679 for you. Yeah. It is weird. It is weird. It's it 704 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:24,360 felt like, like Cam, you she just she felt so entitled and it 705 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:29,800 it wasn't fun to watch it. It gave me the ick. I did. 706 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,800 Like Carra's reply, Cam is like, you know, I don't like 707 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,639 that, and I'm going to take that offensively, and Carl's like, yeah, 708 00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:39,559 I know, like just didn't really bother her. Yeah. Carra seems 709 00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:43,079 to have actually like grown up a little bit in the last few years, 710 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,920 which is good to see. I do like this version of car that we've 711 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,440 seen. Yeah, this time around, all right, Well with that we're 712 00:50:50,480 --> 00:51:02,159 into elimination. Uh, this one is called down the Tube. Kind of 713 00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:04,960 an interesting game. What do you guys think of the game? That's kind 714 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,280 of cool. I liked it. It's like and I soil twist on. 715 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,320 Yeah it was. It was an interesting twist on a howl brough. It 716 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,519 was also kind of like, oh no, they were They were in a 717 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:20,880 tube and rolling the tube for the last one that I saw, so there 718 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,440 was there was the one where Jordan was against Durrell. Yeah, definitely the 719 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,599 same tube though, Yeah, same tube, but they had a different way. 720 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,519 It was split in half and they had to try and spin it one 721 00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:35,760 way or the other. So yep, this is called down the Tube. 722 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,679 And yeah, there's a huge ball in the middle of this tube. And 723 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,239 basically I was a little confused until the end. But as long as you 724 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,840 get that ball popped out the other side, you win. You don't have 725 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,679 to knock the other person off. Yeah yeah, yeah, I feel like 726 00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:53,400 this is a fun, fun elimination because obviously the All Stars seems like they 727 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:58,519 don't want to go to hardcore with some of these eliminations because they don't want 728 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:05,079 people getting injured. Yeah whatever, since everybody's only sort of there for a 729 00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:07,920 limited amount of time, and I feel like this is a good competitive one. 730 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:15,159 Yeah, that really has people going against each other without them actually like 731 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:21,719 laying hands on each other, and you know, there is some both strategy 732 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,679 and some strength to it and everything else. So I thought it was a 733 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,320 lot of fun. Yeah, and we agree with that. We've ben't seen 734 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,280 them the last few seasons. Make a lot of changes to halbrowl to make 735 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,920 it more safe, and I feel like this is a more fun version than 736 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,440 any of the like padded versions of hall brawl we've seen lately. Yeah, 737 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,920 because this is at least like there there is some athletic ability to it. 738 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,679 There is some like some fascality to it, like you really do have to 739 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,039 you're basically pushing someone out of a two like you are pushing someone out of 740 00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:53,639 a tube. But yeah, it was a lot more fun to watch than 741 00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,440 some of the other games that they've come up with. I also just like 742 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,280 really simple eliminations like this is, yeah, push the ball out at the 743 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,960 end of the tube. It's as easy. Honestly, if we had had 744 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:12,599 this elimination instead of any of those fucking puzzles last season, I think that 745 00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,159 we would have been a lot happier because then at least you'd have like CT 746 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:21,239 going against someone in a in a physical elimination where they're actually having to try 747 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:27,760 not lighting fucking candles on fire go against I don't remember, I don't remember 748 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,280 either, but they were lighting candles on fire. That's all I do remember 749 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,920 off it, and there was there was considerable Yeah, maybe the candles for 750 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:42,280 someone else, candles candles with Durrell and yeah, oh that's right, as 751 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,840 if was the yeah, where they had to like it was numbers and math 752 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,719 and things. But I'm just imagining CT like just nailing one side of the 753 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:59,800 ball and as Off just flying fucking T shirt gun or something, right, 754 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,039 But like that would have been so much more fun to watch than those fucking 755 00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:07,119 stupid puzzles. Yeah, getting CT on a math problem? Are you fucking 756 00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:12,440 out of your minds with this MTV? What are we doing? Bare minimum? 757 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,119 They should have at least put him in in a not so fast because 758 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:21,519 CT and not so fast. It's just that is magic to watch. Carlin's 759 00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:28,880 Wet Dreams is a man. Well, so it's Kefal and Cyrus there down 760 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,599 there with Ayana and Rachel. Long story short, nobody's taking their spots, 761 00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:37,239 anybody's spots to get the star themselves. So it is those two against each 762 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,840 other. Yeah, I mean, was anyone surprised by that? No, 763 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,320 No, I'm gonna like it more once they start having the balls to do 764 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,320 it. I know it's early in the game and we're not going to see 765 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,559 it for a while, but yeah, that and I mean, there's no 766 00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:54,280 way in hell Avery would have I mean, and Avery could have put up 767 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:59,800 a ds inn ish fight, but I think Avery's also significantly smaller than I 768 00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,159 on a Yeah. Yeah, and Adam already had a start. He was 769 00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:08,280 not going down there. No, I knew Adam wouldn't well anyway a round 770 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:14,159 one. I don't know Kefla wins. I don't know anything easy, Yeah, 771 00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:15,159 we all get it. I was very I was very sad. I 772 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,000 was like, oh, my team, the guy on my team, Cyrus 773 00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:22,079 just showed up and he's an elimination. And yeah, that happened fast. 774 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,159 Keffler's got to have like forty pounds on Cyrus at this point, right, 775 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,880 Yeah, and Kevil is much bigger. Yeah, I can't remember it was 776 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,440 that said like this was the wrong time for Cyrus to lose all that weight. 777 00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:44,239 Yeah, so k brings up afterwards breaking part, breaking a hamstring, 778 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,559 injury, fucking part. It was so good. I was I was dying. 779 00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:50,280 I love this Kefla. You know, he's the type of guy, 780 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,320 like he's the super quiet guy that you don't really know, but the second 781 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,639 he says something, it's hilarious. He's so much fun. This guy is. 782 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,559 Yes, he is fun. I'm real, I'm real happy with him 783 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:04,119 being there. He's fun to watch. Yeah. And then with the women, 784 00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:10,280 Rachel wins. Seems like she wins without trying all that hard. Yeah. 785 00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:15,599 Yeah, we give a solid five seconds of Iona chanting her kids' names. 786 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,559 She was going for it, but Rachel was super smart, and it's 787 00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:22,760 like, I'm just gonna wait her out. She's gonna be gas out here 788 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,639 in a second. Yeah she does. Yep. So that was it we 789 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,840 learned. Now, there were some questions earlier in the episode what happens if 790 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,320 you have a target and you get to steal one? Those are answered now. 791 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,519 First of all, you have to steal ones. If you go down 792 00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:40,079 the elimination, you have to take one. You cannot just let all stars 793 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,760 be where they are. You can take one from a man, But then 794 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,519 you have to give it to a man, and I don't know, I 795 00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:51,719 don't know. What do you guys think about that, these these new star 796 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:58,039 rules. I like youah, yeah, it causes chaos. I think you 797 00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,039 should be able to give the start anybody you want. It's a one winner. 798 00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:04,880 I like that they have to keep it split, like if you take 799 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,639 it from a man, that has to go to a man, take it 800 00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:08,079 from a war that because otherwise we end up with the same ship that they 801 00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:12,599 ended up within the island, you'd have a bunch of dudes holding on the 802 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:19,119 keys and only two women. Yep, winner back. Yeah, but that 803 00:57:19,239 --> 00:57:22,039 has never happened. There's never been a season where that has happened. The 804 00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:24,960 moment that they give the ability to the guys to start stealing the keys or 805 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,079 stealing the stars and giving them to more guys, all of the women are 806 00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:34,280 going to be kicked out. They're going to try so hard to do that. 807 00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:37,079 I like that it is split, that they have to have three and 808 00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:42,199 three. I agree with Carlo. Yeah, I think I just think with 809 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:49,039 a with a one winner final, who cares if if if it's six women 810 00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,039 or six men or half of each. It's sort of as there's only one 811 00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,920 winner, So who cares because then it'll just be all dudes in the final. 812 00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:00,400 Yeah, it could, it could potentially be all women. It is 813 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,559 never going to be all women. I much love my girls. It is 814 00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:06,239 never going to be. We could see if it was allowed to happen. 815 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,400 We could see it this week. We could see four women's targets and two 816 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:15,159 males targets this week. Had Rachel been able to do that, yeah, 817 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,280 but two of those women were would be Tina and Veronica. I mean we 818 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,599 were even in ours would be really easy, if you may, Like at 819 00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:27,320 the final six or seven, we were in a position season thirty nine where 820 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,440 there was talk about all women going to the finals together. I've been talking 821 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,159 about it. But then, as they always do, there's always one woman 822 00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:37,800 who's going to fucking cave. Like Kay said in the chat room, women 823 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:45,039 are always will start caving because fucking Berna fucked that all up. Yes she 824 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:49,199 did. Yeah they could, we could have had our actual are act true. 825 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,280 Paula also fucked that up, like there will always be that woman out 826 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,280 there who will do the thing that the guys would never do and will cave 827 00:58:57,559 --> 00:59:01,199 and bring a guy back in. I am very very very happy that it 828 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:07,199 is forced split between three men and three women, because otherwise, even with 829 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,039 the crop of dudes that we have there, who all seem to be pretty 830 00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:15,280 stand up guys, every season that we've ever seen some plantis where the ability 831 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:22,280 to get more men versus women in there has had the possibility of happening. 832 00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:24,840 They have pushed really hard to do it. I don't know, I think 833 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:30,960 we can see men not one in all dudes Final two, Yeah, because 834 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,639 they don't want to run against all dudes. I'm with you, Tim, 835 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,280 like I was thinking, because I think in my mind that we're gonna have 836 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,840 a woman and a male winner. Now that you point out that, yeah, 837 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,920 we only get one winner. Like even if it's an all dude final, 838 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,800 Like, fine, if a woman can't make it to the end, 839 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,880 how are we going to expect or beat the men in the finals, Like 840 00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:51,280 they've got to beat everyone anyway. I mean, I get that, but 841 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:58,239 I just I would I don't like the possibility of all of the women not 842 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,320 getting stars, not having stars. Plus, you know, we got Mayor 843 01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:05,639 that has been We've been so close to that so many times, and he 844 01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:08,639 got Mayrior. We we've had a one season where we had like a solo 845 01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:13,360 winner and that was a I guess we've had two we've had this last few 846 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,639 seasons anyway. The first one was Kara who beat a bunch of dudes to 847 01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:20,239 be the first solo winner, and she we have around the season so she 848 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,760 can do it again. Yeah. No, I'm not saying that it's not 849 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,360 something that's possible. I'm just saying every season that we've had the chance where 850 01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:30,679 the guys can take all of the chances to go to the final, they 851 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,679 have tried their fucking damnedest to get every single woman out far ahead of time. 852 01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:43,920 And I it's just it's just but that was also teams when they didn't 853 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,239 want the women on their teams not to run against I think most men run 854 01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:51,760 every time. Every time we've had a final where even if there's only one 855 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,880 winner, they still end up having to pair up with other people. So 856 01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:00,679 whether they're on a full team or they have to pair up in the final 857 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:06,920 with different people, they Yeah, I just I I. Ultimately it just 858 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,400 comes down to I'm happy that it's a four split. I'm happy that if 859 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,920 you take it from a man that has to go back to a man. 860 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,559 If you take it from when it has to go back to a woman. 861 01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:19,519 Yeah, we'll see how impacts the rest of the season. Yeah, I 862 01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:22,960 think it's a little weird. Rachel ends up taking it from Tina, which 863 01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:25,199 makes sense, and Tina didn't give it, seem to give a ship and 864 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:30,360 give it to Veronica who No, but we need to talk about Tina's response 865 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,480 because it was pretty fair. Just fell down to her knees, reaching her 866 01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:40,519 arms up. No, I worked so hard for I appreciate that. It 867 01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:45,760 was pretty funny. She's at least transferring the star, not even not even 868 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,920 taking it, just transferring it. Yeah. Well, and they don't care. 869 01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:51,400 Those three just want stars for all three of them, and they you 870 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,920 know, I don't think it is absolutely delusional for Rachel to think that she 871 01:01:55,039 --> 01:02:00,320 can get Tina and Veronica into the final. Yeah, I mean, though, 872 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,440 isn't it. I mean it'd be nice because then Rachel immediately beats two 873 01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:08,840 people. Yeah, I mean unless unless Rachel breaks her ankle in the first 874 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:14,880 five minutes of the final, there's no way in hell Tina and Veronic are 875 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,519 gonna win. Yep, I agree. Now they shouldn't even be there. 876 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,760 Yeah, No, they're fluff players. To be real. The fact that 877 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,559 they even have the chance to have stars right now is so surprising. You 878 01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:30,039 mean be targets, yeah, b targets. Yeah. I think I think 879 01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:36,199 Tim just wants the show just to be the final. I'd be like the 880 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,800 final. He's like Tina and Veronica, they don't even need to be there. 881 01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:44,280 He just wants to be like, Hey, guys, it's the new 882 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,880 season of Challenge. There's two episodes. It's all final. I think my 883 01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:53,559 thing is with the fluff people. I just like I overdose on them easily, 884 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,280 you know. So, Like, it was nice seeing Tina the first 885 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,280 time. I hadn't seen her in ten years. It's cool to see her 886 01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:01,559 three time in a row. I'm done. I just she's I'm over her. 887 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,199 This time. It's Flora. I like seeing Flora. She has no 888 01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:07,960 no chance to win this, but it's nice seeing her. If I see 889 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,440 her next season, I'm gonna be sick of it. Yeah. I was 890 01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:15,880 real over Tina after the end of her first season back because she quit in 891 01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:21,639 the elimination. But just as Melinda ran around, but bring Steve back every 892 01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:25,079 season. I can never get hired of him. Steve. I'm done with 893 01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:30,159 Steve too. No, you don't like him. Jo creeps me too, 894 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,239 Carl. I don't know what it is about him. There's something weird about 895 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,079 him, me the creeps. I can't believe him of the anti hand job. 896 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,559 No, there's just something about him that gives me the creeps. Yeah, 897 01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:44,719 I feel the same. I don't like that guy. Did you guys 898 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:49,800 see the pictures I posted of him, like caressing my chest? Yeah? 899 01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:59,639 That mh. I'll have to detective later, Carlyn. No, I'm good. 900 01:03:59,639 --> 01:04:02,559 Thanks. So Hey, everybody at a challenge pot dot com joined the 901 01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:05,760 Facebook grouping and uncils are our Patreon people get join Patreon. Tim, all 902 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,320 right, so we have just one tier. 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Yeah, we don't have any reviews, reviews leave 913 01:04:56,679 --> 01:05:00,559 light tunes reviews or Apple podcast reviews. I guess they call him now he's 914 01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:08,159 act. Do you have any social media stuff? Not really nothing major posted 915 01:05:08,159 --> 01:05:14,039 a photo on social media and with THEO. Vaughn saw his show which car 916 01:05:15,719 --> 01:05:20,519 the Challenge. We've had like four Theos, the comedian, Mullet THEO, 917 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:28,239 the old old school THEO. Yeah from road World to have the mullet comedian 918 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:32,320 now, yeah, I just immediately had a flashback to the THEO who had 919 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,199 to do the the elimination where he and Corey and Jenna all had to climb 920 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,679 up that thing and jump off the swing and hold the balls and he couldn't 921 01:05:40,719 --> 01:05:46,920 do it and then he got lowered down like different THEO. That's THEO and 922 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,960 that we shall never speak of that THEO again. He's a nice guy. 923 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,400 When did you know, I mean a few years ago in Chicago he went 924 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,519 to tell I think the first Chicago Challenge he was allowed at a challenge media. 925 01:06:02,119 --> 01:06:05,000 Yeah, quit his first season, like four episodes in and he was 926 01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:09,440 allowed. So to be fair, he actually wasn't on like the stage show 927 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,239 and didn't Evean like announce he was there. But he sat in the back 928 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,599 corner by himself, and if you recognized him, you could go up and 929 01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:16,719 talk to him. I was there's like me and like two other people seem 930 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,000 to recognize him if I were, if I were in his position, there's 931 01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:24,280 no way, hell I'd get caught dead at a Challenge media event like I'm 932 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,800 gonna get ridiculed to all get out. I think some of those guys get 933 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,960 into the Challenge media circuit to get back on the show. I think I 934 01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:39,280 was back on the show. He quit, So Tina Tina's back. People 935 01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:45,360 people say Jay quit. Now we got Jay back. Yeah, Chase, 936 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,400 he's got a caveat at the end of an asterisk at the end of his 937 01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:54,880 name. Yeah. Other you know. Small news is Kara was on Bananas 938 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,519 Podcast this week and speaking of Jay, she was really putting him over and 939 01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:02,280 saying just how how amazing he was and that she thinks Evan's gonna be very 940 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:10,840 surprised with just how good Jay is. Suddenly, Jay is Zach's favorite player. 941 01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:15,920 No, I still like the goof Josh. Oh, everybody loves Josh 942 01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:18,679 on the show, so he's my favorite. Now, well, I met 943 01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:21,039 Josh in person. If I meet Jay in person, maybe I'll change my 944 01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:25,840 opinions. I dislike Jay. I think Jay got rod deal. I think 945 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,719 Jenna is equally a blame for that quit. Yeah, she at least proved 946 01:07:30,719 --> 01:07:33,920 herself on later season. So yeah, now Jay has his shot. Yeah, 947 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:39,239 I think I think Jenna is more fortunately you know, yeah, and 948 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:46,000 unfortunately she married an idiot. Yes again, anything else sec No, that's 949 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,719 about it. I think uh Tim wants to bring up again talking about it 950 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:55,440 now they talk about All Stars five casting. The rumors have been out there. 951 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,480 Oh yeah, well, I don't know specifically about All Stars five. 952 01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:03,039 The rumor thread that I read said that there is some debate that they are 953 01:08:03,159 --> 01:08:08,960 casting for a new challenge related show that is not All Stars five, and 954 01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:13,360 it is not Yeah, it is not USA two. It is a new 955 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,760 thing. I have been somebody else. Somebody else came back and said, 956 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,159 no, it's not a new thing. It's All Stars five. But they 957 01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:23,359 are getting CBS people and the international people and all this stuff. So there 958 01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:27,039 seems to be some debate as to whether or not this is a CBS version 959 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,520 or nobody is one hundred percent sure that I've seen. Yeah, and it 960 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,479 seems like gamer Vev a couple of days ago posted about it, saying that 961 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:41,640 that this is All Stars five, which will include CBS, other networks and 962 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,880 international casts. It is not exclusive to real world road roles fresh meat, 963 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,920 but then it wasn't it. Pink Rose is the other big sort of info 964 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:56,279 and insiderer info person. She's disagreed with that. I think pink Rose is 965 01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,560 there a big one. I have not seen anything from pink Rose about it, 966 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,159 but it's possible. Yeah, from what I read, she was the 967 01:09:01,239 --> 01:09:08,039 other one that is debating as to what this new thing is all right interesting? 968 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,199 So but forty they're shooting forty right now unless I'm mistaken, So forty 969 01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:15,439 is coming out next, and then this is the new whatever's next is sort 970 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,319 of the question mark. I'm going to be real upset if they start bringing 971 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,680 outside players into All Stars, because All Stars is All Stars for a reason. 972 01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:29,760 I guess it is agreeabl MTV players. Yeah, but I think that 973 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,479 they're like weirdly stuck because MTV seems like it's going to stop being a network 974 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:39,520 soon. Ish, USA doesn't really work because this has been done on MTV, 975 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,119 this is done on Paramount Plus. Well yeah, yeah, I know, 976 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:46,119 but the USA show is up in the air because there's no like Argentina 977 01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:50,520 or UK show or so it's like why are they calling it USA? So 978 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:56,359 there's like this weird what is the future of the Challenge question? And maybe 979 01:09:56,399 --> 01:10:00,640 it's just not All Stars but it's on Paramount Plus or who knows. What 980 01:10:01,119 --> 01:10:04,479 they should do is just drop the USA, just call it the Challenge and 981 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:09,119 just put on CBS with like all these CBS people and then leave All Stars 982 01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:13,039 for all the MTB like people. Yeah, leave All Stars. The way 983 01:10:13,079 --> 01:10:15,760 that this season is and the way that the last few seasons have been, 984 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,680 where they're fun and light and have people in them that we love. My 985 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:25,039 perfect world would have the Challenge like the Yeah, the the CBS version would 986 01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:28,239 be the main show. Get rid of the MTV show. It's garbage now, 987 01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:32,880 and then All Stars would be Yes, the o our favorite classic players. 988 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:43,319 Yeah, well our other new thing. All right, we should we 989 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,079 want to do it, and we want to do an update on the public 990 01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:50,920 one. Yeah, I'll do the update on the Public. So Public League, 991 01:10:53,960 --> 01:11:00,399 whatever Stove, mister Steve is still our top player, cheater. I 992 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,960 you know what I was saying that last week, not that he's I'm I 993 01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:05,439 candn't see you, of Jeen, but I did realize we're talking about last 994 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,920 week, is like, what is to stop someone that wants from being guest 995 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:14,039 host on here from just like going and googling all the spoilers because the fact 996 01:11:14,119 --> 01:11:18,000 you can change your people every week, you could like perfectly accommodate for the 997 01:11:18,079 --> 01:11:23,399 spoilers. Yeah, but are there spoilers about literally all of the things that 998 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:28,439 are like how many times someone's fighting with someone else, how many confessionals someone 999 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,520 has? That is I thought the spoilers were really just like who goes home 1000 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,199 that week? That is true, And like our private one, it's all 1001 01:11:35,319 --> 01:11:39,159 like performance space. I guess that's a good thing about this one of like 1002 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,560 is it is like drama based. Yeah, so there's drama and there's romance, 1003 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,560 and there's how you're doing in the challenge and all of these different things. 1004 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:53,479 They've all got different category different point category or point nominations denominations for them. 1005 01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:59,039 So whatever Stove is still our number one, But I'm closing in real 1006 01:11:59,119 --> 01:12:03,640 tight on him a number two, and then we've got Carlin's number two, 1007 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:09,880 yep, and then we've got no quitters in at number three. So listeners, 1008 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,720 you better step your game up or I'm gonna take that spot, okay, 1009 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,239 where you can hang out at number sixteen with me. That's true, 1010 01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:24,720 Yeah, because like I mean, I I that's the thing that I based 1011 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:30,880 my picks this week off of how people did last week and who was shown 1012 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,279 in the upcoming Yeah, it looked like, I mean, based off of 1013 01:12:34,399 --> 01:12:38,920 last week. Ayana had a lot of drama, and it looked like Cam 1014 01:12:39,079 --> 01:12:42,439 was gonna have a lot of drama this week. And she's been getting quite 1015 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,960 a few confessionals because that's just who she is. And Kefler kicked ass last 1016 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,680 week, so why not throw him in as my third pick? All right, 1017 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,159 Carlin just gave away your strategy, guys, now we can copy it. 1018 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,399 My strategy is I'm looking for people that are good enough to not go 1019 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,560 home this week, but bad enough to not make the end because I want 1020 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,319 to leave all my people, the good people for the end. Yeah. 1021 01:13:01,359 --> 01:13:04,840 But at the same time, the season is only twelve episodes long, so 1022 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:09,039 you have to kind of weigh that in of like even if you're waiting with 1023 01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:12,239 all your good people to the end, like when is that? When do 1024 01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:15,000 you want to start throwing them in there? Because like cam Cam scored forty 1025 01:13:15,119 --> 01:13:18,439 nine points last week and sixty two this week because I picked her both weeks 1026 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:24,079 because she had so many confessionals and other drama and other things that she was 1027 01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:27,039 part of. All right, I guess I gotta put a cam next week. 1028 01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:31,439 Then Carlin's Carlin's Carlin's blowing her load right up front. Now I'll know 1029 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,520 at the end of the game, She's not gonna have be players to pick 1030 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:38,159 from. Now, watch watch like she's playing up Cam and how good she's 1031 01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:42,800 been doing. Can go home next week and we're all going and Carlin's get 1032 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,239 back. I tricked you all, just more strategy. It turns out carlick 1033 01:13:46,279 --> 01:13:50,960 her one more time. So that's true. I picked Tony this week, 1034 01:13:51,079 --> 01:13:56,239 So that was my mistake. Well, how are we doing the private league, 1035 01:13:56,319 --> 01:13:59,119 Zach? What's our scores? My similar one? Come on, come 1036 01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:00,439 on, come on. Well, just a quick up date for last So 1037 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,920 last week we left Tim was in first at twenty three, yeah, Carlan 1038 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:09,760 at twenty me and third and fifteen Wolfy at ten. All right, so 1039 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,119 this week in fourth place, scoring a total of zero points for the week, 1040 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:21,159 Wolfy, So what the hell? Because Wolfe had someone go home, 1041 01:14:21,319 --> 01:14:26,560 he had I think three people that were in the bottom group. So for 1042 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:31,439 all the points he made, he also lost him with people being in third 1043 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:40,640 place also scoring zero points. It's tim No, Tony, Tony fucked me. 1044 01:14:41,359 --> 01:14:46,760 God damn it. I gotta write him a letter. So we got 1045 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,680 me and Carlin top two. One of us got twenty seven points. That 1046 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:59,680 was twenty six. Oh you know versus twenty seven and twenty six wait right 1047 01:15:00,039 --> 01:15:02,439 scored this week? Or that's what our total? That's our total score. 1048 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:12,600 So so in second place scoring uh six points for the week is Carlin. 1049 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,720 That puts you up to twenty six. And I scored an amazing twelve points 1050 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:23,439 because I had both Adam and Avery who won the challenge this week. Rigged 1051 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:28,920 election. Rigged election. Yeah, we should have called it after week one. 1052 01:15:29,399 --> 01:15:33,520 We should have. But uh, I do think I didn't know. 1053 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,640 It's a mistake, not that I made the math, but I do think 1054 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,159 next season, if we do this again, I need to up the points 1055 01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:45,079 for elimination wins because I think you need more points for winning eliminations. Yeah, 1056 01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:48,159 right now, right now, you get three points, but I think 1057 01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:51,439 about last time I was doing it, you lose, you get negative one 1058 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,159 point for being in the bottom and negative one for gating voted in, so 1059 01:15:56,319 --> 01:16:00,720 ultimately you only get a net positive of one point. Gotcha. So I 1060 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,159 think we should bump up to at least four, if not five, so 1061 01:16:02,199 --> 01:16:05,159 you get two or three points if you win an elimination. Yeah. Well, 1062 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:10,600 I mean also take a look at the point nominated the point values for 1063 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:15,359 the online version and maybe just take a zero off or like fear o what 1064 01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:21,439 they have for the ratio. Yeah, just as a general But yeah, 1065 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,399 between between me, Carlin and Tim, it's still neck and neck, and 1066 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:33,680 welf you're there in the game. Well yeah, correct, So what Wolfe 1067 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:40,039 has lost two players and Tim has lost three. Yeah right now, yes, 1068 01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:45,119 and then you and I Coyler are both at six still. Yeah, 1069 01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:48,359 So to remind everyone, Wolfe's lineup is Cam, Kara, Tina, and 1070 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:55,239 Ryan. He has lost Tyree and Cyrus. Uh, big Uncle, Sweet 1071 01:16:55,279 --> 01:17:00,439 Tea is it, Kavla, Brad and Brandon all dudes? Uh. He 1072 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:06,239 has lost Ayana, Tony and Janelle. My team looks so good. My 1073 01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:10,720 team looks so good. I'm another the fact that you had Ayana. But 1074 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:16,359 you know whatever, Zachie Bananas still has Steve, Laurel Avery, Adam, 1075 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:27,199 Flora and Derek. And I've still got I still have Brad Ace. Nope, 1076 01:17:27,359 --> 01:17:31,119 I'm looking at the wrong thing. Clock on the right one, Carlin. 1077 01:17:31,239 --> 01:17:38,840 I still have Rachel Leroy, Nicole, j Veronica and Ace. All 1078 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,720 right, Brad hanging on to Brad. Brad's my hope. All right, 1079 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,960 See, I still got car in cam. So I think I'm gonna losing. 1080 01:17:46,079 --> 01:17:49,680 Losing Tony really hurt me. I'm feeling I'm feeling real bad about myself. 1081 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,800 Now. Yeah, just you know, when we get to the end, 1082 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,520 I mean, so we'll have to fay o the points. I was 1083 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,640 think it's gonna be three third for know, first for winner or boy, 1084 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,760 and first for girl. So it was gonna be twelve six three for first, 1085 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,800 second, third. But now that I realize we only have one winner, 1086 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:13,680 we refigure out the scoring for ten thousand points to the winner. Ten 1087 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,359 thousand points. Seven thousand doesn't matter, y kind of like who lineed it 1088 01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:24,199 anyway, The points don't matter, that's right, Yep. So all right, 1089 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,039 So you also could join our public league if you head over to challengepod 1090 01:18:28,079 --> 01:18:31,920 dot com. And I mean there's still time. Seems a little weird to 1091 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,359 jump in after the third episode, but nah, jump in you. Yeah. 1092 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,920 You can also go to our Instagram page and join the Instagram page. 1093 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,760 You can find all the links there to all of the different things that we 1094 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:48,439 have. I should point out Cindy's also playing. Oh she's doing better than 1095 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:54,680 I am. She doesn't even watch the show. Does she have a good 1096 01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:03,520 name? So yes she does. It is Wolfy and Club Nice Sickening. 1097 01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:08,640 That's fantastic. Yeah, Cindy's in at thirteenth place with one hundred and seventy 1098 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:14,520 eight, and Wolfe's in at sixteenth place with one fifty seventh, and then 1099 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:21,720 also Zach is in ninth with two forty four, and Big Uncle Sweet Tea 1100 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,920 is at sixth with two fifty one, and then I'm a second with three 1101 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:31,359 hundred and one, and our top score right now is three eight. Pretty 1102 01:19:31,399 --> 01:19:35,279 close. Carlin's gonna win it. She can guess host on the show next 1103 01:19:35,279 --> 01:19:43,279 season. Yeah, yeah, we were tectailer. I think the listener should 1104 01:19:43,279 --> 01:19:45,720 be rooting for one of us to win. Because I think of one of 1105 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:54,800 us wins, we're gonna get someone's X on here or current plaything. Nope, 1106 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,680 see if we see if we can get Amanda to come back on the 1107 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,479 show. Oh good, I won't. I won't be here that week. 1108 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,720 Kay. You brought up Oh it was just the never mind, you brought 1109 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,960 up the potential of what All Stars five is going to be. I was 1110 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,479 trying to figure what it was that she was talking about earlier that we needed 1111 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:18,520 to mention again, ignore me done, Okay, all right, I guess 1112 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:25,119 that's it. Uh. For this episode of Challenge has been Carl in San 1113 01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:30,479 Diego, Zachie Bananas, and as Rachel said, this is a clear case 1114 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:35,279 of muscles on muscles. Chie