Hi everyone. This is Christina and this is MJ. And this is another
episode of Speaky Tells. We're now a disaster podcast because today we're talking about
earthquake or an earthquake not plural. Well well, well, actually you're right.
No, I take it back plural. Did you find another earthquake story
or no? But I feel like the earthquake we're gonna mention is going to
bring up another earthquake in the same place. Yes, yeah, but yeah,
yeah, we do know, we do know. I didn't dives to
super deep into that one, just kind of like, okay, mentioned first,
we do have a listener story. And also MJ's back. Yay,
I forgot to announce it, although I access some point it's like too much
to keep announcing MJ's back. No, I'm going to keep announcing it,
all right. Yes, and we have a listener's story. If you have
a story that you want to send into the podcast, you can email a
Spooky toos at gmail dot com. You can record a voice though and email
that over or you know, type it up, whatever whatever you prefer.
You can leave it on discord. You can also call the a Spooky hotline.
There is a voicemailer that I still have to download and send it to
you so we can listen to it. Oh, okay, awesome. We'll
do that next episode though, because I don't have it ready. It's because
it's in two parts. Because the voicemail cuts off. I don't know the
exact time, but if you like talk long enough, it it just cuts
off. Yeah, and that's what that person did. I think it's like
two ish minutes or something like that. But okay, so I have to
download them and put them together just so that and then send it to you.
So we'll do that next episode. But yeah, send us your stories
please. We love reading them, hearing them discussing them. Yeah, all
of the above exactly. This was sent to via Instagram. That's another option.
And I think they wanted to stay anonymous. I feel like that's what
they said, but I don't remember, but I did it anyway just in
case. Okay. Oh also, actually, okay, well, let me
read this first part and then ask you if you remember what the story is.
Okay, So they said, Ah, the Aligante story reminded me about
something my mom told me once, And when I read that, I was
like, what what story was that I do not remember. Sound familiar to
me at all? What is what is Alikanta? Have I heard that word?
Like I have heard it? You have? Yeah? Okay, so
just like a quick google, it's a city in Spain. But why were
we talking about Spain? We don't talk about Spain that much. What if
they thought we were someone else and someone else talked about it and they thought
it was us. It's like, it's like, I know, but I've
heard of it. Okay, Well, yeah, let us know when we
said that. I don't know, I don't remember. Oh my god,
I'm so confused. Yeah. Anyway, point is, I don't remember what
that story was. So if you could remind us with an episode number that
would beat, that would be ideal. That would be the ideal situation.
But yeah, I mean, like we've said, I'm just dumb. So
I don't know. I don't know when we talked about it, but it
reminded of this listener about a story. So that's what I'm gonna read.
I'm gonna continue this now. Oh oh my god, I'm so dumb.
Is that another word for scorpion? Oh okay, so let me read this
next part. So the flowery bush, which didn't really need to be trimmed.
We had just trimmed it outside the corridor that led to the patio.
He found an alkane in there. It might be let me see. Hold
on, okay, that would make sense. Why I've heard of it before?
Oh I think it's a snake, and so is it? Why is
the only thing coming up for me? Is Spain amazed? Just look up
Alikanta snake. It's a it's a Mexican snake. Oh my god, and
it's in it's Wow, I'm embarrassed. Okay, we have talked about snakes.
Yeah, okay, oh my god, all of this makes so much
sense. Now should we start the story so that it flows and maybe not
confused some of our listeners. Yes, I remember the story now. It
was the shape shifting oh the snake. Yes, it was the episode and
I mentioned the bruqua or like that shape shifted into a snake and like the
the mom would get sleepy and like fall asleep. But then the snake's tail
was in the baby's mouth. Yeah that's what it was. Engross Okay,
So yeah, now I will start this over because now we now we now
we know, now we have the contexts the Alegantha story reminded me about something
my mom told me once while we lived in Adanum in Mexico. She would
feel sleepy when it was about time to nurse. My grandpa was in town
from Guadalajara, and for some reason he decided to trim the boogambilia, a
flowery bush which really didn't need to be trimmed. We had just done it.
On the corridor that led to the patio, he found an aligante in
there. He grabbed a machetta and killed it. My mom says creepy stuff
always happened to her in that house. She would hear all of her china,
cabinet plates and stuff break, but would go into the corridor and everything
was fine. Once she saw a trail of mist leading outside towards the Bougambilia
de bush. She also said she once was outside late at night and she
could hear my godparent in the street whistling while on his way back to his
house. All of a sudden, everything was silent, no more whistling,
and my mom had urge to look upwards towards etzero. She saw three floating
balls of fire and ran inside to my sisters and me. The following day,
she went to my godparents' house and asked why he had stopped whistling.
He told her he saw three floating balls of fire and said he knew those
were brucas. I have another witch story from my hometown, but i'll send
it later. Let me ask my mom to tell me again so I don't
get the details wrong. And yeah, please send that story in. We
love bluecast stories unless we're already received in. I just didn't don't know,
but if we haven't, please send it in. But yeah, that's creepy,
and I'm so glad that we realized what story. Yeah, reminded her
because yeah, that makes it creepier. I don't like it, especially seeing
a trail of myss also leading towards it. And that's where like the snake
was looked like a bad juju or something. Yeah, yeah, I don't
like it, but yeah, that was our story. If you have any
stories, please send them in before we get to our topic, because it's
depressing and disaster related. Uh. I wanted to ask you, MJ,
what your TikTok has been looking like lately, like you're for you page.
I don't even know how to describe it. It's not me. That's really
oh wow, yeah, mo, mine is mostly either Palestine stuff or this
like trend going around. I don't know if you've come across it, but
it's like a Grinch filter. Oh I haven't seen that one. Oh you
haven't seen it? Oh my god, I have to send it to you.
The first one I came across was, of course I opened I opened
TikTok on The first thing I see is the filter I'm talking about. Oh,
oh, I know there is a theme. Yes, I have a
lot of Palestine stuff, but it hasn't been as often as like the past,
like last month. But the one thing that has popped up is book
talk and all the fucking drama going on in book talk. Oh yeah I've
seen that. Yeah yeah, with the KKK book that came out and the
MC is a Mexican girl. Yeah, I thought, because I remember on
Twitter I saw there was like some drama about like self, someone with self
publishing a book that was like, oh you know what, this was another
problematic book? My bad? What is going on with authors? There's been
two problematic books I think this month or was this month? Yeah, okay,
because the first one I saw was like this white woman was writing a
book about an enslaver and then an enslaved person falling in love with the enslaver,
and people were like, hey, this is super problematic as a white
person, you should even be writing like books like this, Like what's your
problem? And then did they the author doubled down? Oh my god.
Uh no, there's there's that. I haven't heard about that one. But
there's two more stories, and one of them's written by like I think to
latinas. Oh, I have to look it up. I have to look
it up. But one of them, one of the like love interests,
the male love interest heavily does uh Latino stereotypes, which is like, he
was a drug dealer, now he's a gang basis in jail. Is this
not the American dirt lady? Or is this no? No, no,
this is somebody else. Oh, I guess this is a common thing.
Oh wait, you said it was a Mexican author. Yeah, well she's
no, she's a Latina author. I think she's Brazilian. Well I don't
even know if she considers herself Latina, but she her name is Santana Knox
and the book she published was with some other girl. So Santana Knox wrote
a book about I'm on TikToker, I'm looking up Santana Knox myself, Okay
n Ox, last name Santana Knox controversy. So she wrote a book where
one of the male carriers that the love interest, I guess I would call
it. He has a lot of like stereotypes. And I'm talking about like,
like I said, he was a drug dealer and a gang banger and
just relies heavily on those stereotypes. And then the other drama is Tilly Cole
and this is Oh, I'm pretty sure it's a white woman. Sounds like
a white woman. Tilly Cole. Tilly Cole, Yeah, t I L
Yeah, I co l e from She's from England. Yeah. So I
don't know which book it is. I think Darkness Embraced. I could be
wrong the book, but anyways, it's about the love interest isn't a KKK
guy and Andy the MC is a Mexican girl and he like this redeeming arc
and they fall in love and and I haven't read the book. I heard
about that, like they did this too, and the character was Poc.
But it wasn't until yesterday that I found out that it was actually specifically a
Latina Mexican girl. Yeah, so she wrote this book, and it's just
like it's gross, Like she's really romanticizing the KKK and using a woman of
color in her stories for this redeeming arcs, because this guy is going to
redeem himself. Like, get the fuck out. That's that's what's been on
my TikTok oh. When Tanner meets Adelita Quintana, the daughter of the most
brutal cartel boss in Mexico, the two are instant enemies but eventually fall in
love, only to be thrust into the middle of a war between Adelita's family,
the KKK, and the Hades. Hangman, it is some shit Tanner's
motorcycle gang. Sorry, this man is a member of the KKK and he
has a motorcycle gang. The fuck is going on? Yeah? Can you
have both? I don't know, but it's so problematic. And then also
the other thing, the other drama that I found out recently, this was
like about like a month ago, was that there's white women who who author
poc led books, Like you know, the MC is a personal color.
Yeah, they use names that are like racially ambiguous, so they kind of
present themselves to the author as like they're trying to pretend to be POC authors,
but they're actually just white women that are using a pen name. Oh
and they're yeah, but it's like crazy, so they they write books in
the first person of a person of color, right, And you know when
when you have people who are leaning towards reading more books that are generated with
they're looking for like diverse books, thinking that they're written by diverse authors,
but they're nope, nope, it's just white women writing. And and oh
and then like they use stereotypes. Yeah, it's like her her chocolate skin,
some shit like colored skin embrace. I don't even know, Like I
don't know, some shit like that. But like I was like, you
guys, you have to be really careful about who you're buying books from and
who you're We had a spicy soul. Yeah, and then like oh and
then what was it? What was it? It was Wednesday Books. I
think it's called in their parent company. One of their employees uh tweeted like
some racist shit, like racist shit, islamophobic shit, and the company has
not done anything like they have like people will forget It's how like TikTok book
TikTok, or you are like embedded into book talk. I am not.
I just started seeing stuff about the second book drama that you just mentioned,
but not anything else. Listen, book talk is so much drama. I
don't really engage with it as much except for like when I need a book.
But that's really right, because like I still struggle to read through our
reading list because I'm so busy. But like in the rare moments that I
do finish a book really early, I'm like, let's see what book talk
recommends, and it's nothing but fucking drama all the time. Don't get me
wrong, She's most signed. I fucking love it. I love it.
Yeah, but I'm like, damn drama, monny man. My my TikTok
is all either stuff about supporting Pala sign or that Grinch filter that I just
sent you or people I mentioned it last episode, But there's like this what
is her? I don't know her name, but she does this all the
time. It was just like, oh, did you look at the message
the filter? Isn't it so good? You need to find the one with
there's a baby and a mom, but also the one I just send you
is one of my favorite ones. But yeah, that Grinch filter has been
uh make me laugh so much, A little too much that. And then
there's the one I mentioned last episode where actually it wasn't a blanket. I
think it was like a shirt that she's wearing and it has between made on
it, and she's like, oh, I love her sol Yes, so
that's her name, Mamita. Oh my god. That's been stuck in my
head. And then on top of I'm just getting I've just been getting people
taking that sound and like redoing it. But also there's a video I don't
know who it was, singing like on this December twelve, and she's like,
it's so funny. I have to send you that video too, But
yeah, that's all that's all I've been seeing. You have to Yeah,
I love soul. She's so funny. It's so good. I adore her.
She's so funny. And then she posted I think it was today or
yesterday a TikTok and her doing a British accent and it's so good. Really,
I have to look that one. I got to find it. But
she's so funny. I love her, love it, love it. But
that's been stuck in my head the Wila Lupana song and then the sound from
The Grinch. So good anyway, Yeah, I just wanted to talk about
something lighter before we talk about something depressing. Mm hmmm. I will put
time stamps so for the people that complain that we talk too much. So,
yeah, today we're talking about the devastating twenty seventeen Mexico earthquake, but
we can't talk about that earthquake without mentioning the nineteen eighty five earthquake and then
the phenomena of like Nino's phantasmas ghost children that came up during both earthquakes,
because that was strange that like it happened both to was weird. Yeah,
So first I guess I'll just talk about the earthquake itself, because your notes
are more about the story. Yeah, Sophia free that right, or Fida,
Sophia, I mean her wrong, Frida? Yeah, okay. So
on September nineteenth, twenty seventeen, at one fourteen pm local time, there
was a seven point one magnitude earthquake that hit Mexico and it shook for about
twenty seconds, but the initial guesses of how long it lasted was a minute,
which is way too long. Yeah, it's really long, but twenty
seconds is a lot a long time. Yeah, it is, especially for
that magnitude and in case anyone needs like a refresher or a reminder, the
magnitude is the size of the earthquake. There's about ten to fifteen earthquakes with
that like from seven to seven point nine magnitude that happened every year all over
the world, like worldwide. And then any earthquake stronger than seven point nine,
like so eight between eight and ten, those only happened one to three
times per year in the entire world. And then there's like I think like
one and two magnitude earthquakes that happen and like all day, you know,
can I feel them? Yeah, you can't feel them? And like what's
it called the Iceland? I think? Or Greenland? No, I think
it's Iceland. Is like went through like like two thousand or something earthquakes in
one day, no way, and like they're yeah, and then they had
to be evacuated because they're volcanoes about to blow. That I did see because
last episode I also mentioned that I enjoy following the Mount Saint Helen's Twitter page.
They're so unhinged h and they quote tweeted about that volcano. So that's
why I know about it. Yeah. Yeah, but they have like I
think anywhere between one thousand and two thousand earthquakes, like strong ones in one
day. It was like damn strong ones, A few strong ones. Yeah.
Yeah, okay again with TikTok. If you guys go and look up
the I believe it's an Iceland. I want to say it's an Iceland.
Could be wrong somewhere, don't quote and don't quote me, but it's somewhere
over there in that area, like the Nordic area, that area somewhere.
Yeah, the videos are terrifying. I'd be like, dude, I'd be
shitting myself so hard, like you got to be rescued and cleaned both.
Wow. No, I didn't know that. So Mexico is one of the
world's most seismically active regions, which means that one of the places earthquakes happened
the most in like simple terms, because it sits on top of more than
one, like several tectonic plates that on top of them being tectonic plates,
they also intersect with each other. Yeah, in Mexico alone, there's like
forty earthquakes a day, but the majority are not noticeable. For this earthquake,
though, the one that happened on September nineteenth, twenty seventeen, the
epicenter, so where the earthquake was the strongest, where it originated or whatever,
that was located thirty four miles south of Pueblan, and it caused damage
in Puebla, Morellos and Mexico City, but the most damage happened in Mexico
City. And there's several reasons why that was, which we'll get into.
When that's like you can blame on people and the other it's just a location,
like Mexico City was built on top of a dry lake bed and that
like it's just too soft, apparently, And that's why earthquakes are more destructive
on top of like the errors of like the government and people trying to cut
corners when rebuilding from yeah, and building in general, and jet yeah,
building in general. So what's even worse about this earthquake is that it took
place on the anniversary of the destructive nineteen eighty five earthquake, And every year
on the anniversary of this earthquake, there's a National Earthquake drill that happens,
and then I think in the past, like, oh god, it was
happening twenty seventeen, there was an earthquake around the same time the following year
or the same day again, and then like yeah, there's always like been
like small earthquakes happening around September. Yeah, I know, two months before
this one there was another kind of big earthquake in Chiapas, but still not
was it two months. It might have been less. Actually it might have
been like two weeks, which is worse. But yeah, well, yeah,
there's just quite a bit and it's almost like on the anniversary of it,
there's an earthquake. Yeah, and this one, the one on September
nineteen, twenty seventeen, took place two hours after that national drill that they
do every year of the anniversary. So the epicenter of this earthquake was one
hundred No, I'm not gonna say kilometers because I don't know what. Well's
seventy five mile as from Mexico City, but that's where the most damage happened,
but other places, like morel were closer. Mexico has this thing called
SaaS mex Earthquake Warning System. It's supposed to alert people that the earthquakes happening,
to get them to what they learned on the drills, like you know,
get under a table, or oh, oh, the same thing happens
here. Now. The other day there was an earthquake, not the other
day, I think was either last month. I'm pretty sure it was last
month in September that there was an earthquake and Sacramento I heard it was a
pretty big one, but you know, our our infrastructure is pretty good.
And then there was one in the Bay Area and our the phones went off.
But the fucking phone alarm that the the emergency alarm on the phone is
a lot more scarier than the earthquake. I like die, Like my soul
left my body. I was like, phone trying to kill me. But
then they're like, hide under tables. Oh is that what it sounds like?
I've never heard it. It sounds like a what is it called?
Like an amber alert? It's exactly almost exactly sounds like an amber alert.
But it scares the shit out of you, right, And it's like the
buildings here are pretty safe, right because they're they're they're meant to withstand earthquakes.
But it's a lot more. The sound is a lot more terrifying than
the earthquake. Oh my god, I didn't even feel the earthquake, but
that shit scared the crap out of me. There was an earthquake though in
September. I love when people barely moved to California and then there's like tiny
ones that nobody even talks about it, and then you just see post them.
Could you feel the earthquake? Yeah, it's like, dude, that
was under five Plubi one come down. Yeah, like you're woken up from
bed because the bed is shaking and your stuff were falling over. Then it's
not a big and no, like the worst thing it did was like the
one that we had in September was like it vibrated the windows a little bit.
But I'm like, dude, somebody blasting music does that too? Does
that? Yeah? And then like the head of my shower shook and like
some water like fell out, and I was like, Okay, that's nice.
Yeah. The SASMEX, the warning system is supposed to was supposed to
give Mexico City twenty seconds advanced in warning, which is not a lot,
but like I think in terms of like maybe finding somewhere to stay safe.
Any second advantage is better than nothing. Yeah, so that's what it's supposed
to do. Give at least twenty seconds advance of twenty seconds morning, I
advanced in Wow, why can't I phrase this sentence whatever? Yes, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, twenty second morning. Yeah. Yeah,
apparently that's not what happened. It was only like two seconds or during the
earthquake itself, like as it was already happening. I don't think people understand
how fast earthquakes happen, Like even having like a twenty second window is a
law, but I doubt they could reach that goal because earthquakes happened very very
fast. I see, So I wouldn't even have mattered. I feel like
in some cases, I guess it depends because I feel like depending on the
surface level or like where exactly the earthquake happened, like you could feel it
more, feel it less, like how deep in crust. I don't know
how that works. So maybe you have a better chance, but if not,
then it's like you don't have time. I see. Also, some
residents mistook that alert the actual alert for the drill that had been happening the
anniversary drill, although places like wahaka A, Capuco, Chiban, Singo,
Puebla, some of them had like forty eight seconds warning, which seems preferable.
Oh that's good. Yeah. None. Yeah. In Puebla, the
earthquake collapsed a church that was on the slopes of our favorite volcano. I
just love saying that name. I still struggle with it. But when this
church collapsed, it killed fifteen people. And then there was a second church
that collapsed not far from there, and this one killed eleven people, including
a baby. That was Puebla, Mexico City. However, four buildings collapsed.
Oh geez, I remember that. Yeah, a lot and people were
trapped inside. There was large large like dust, I don't know, dust,
uh, clouds, yes, and also fires that started happening because of
all the destruction and dust and all that, and several buildings caught on fire
like Lasa. Also, did you did you ever watch House of Flowers?
No? Oh my god, I'll tell you guys, I don't really watch
TV. Okay, well what I do. It's like my comfort ones,
which is like the Twilight Zone and stuff like that. Next to the Twilight
Zone and Xbile, the other one X files well, I did watch House
of Flowers and I accidentally started talking like what are the characters? No,
I feel that because I pick up accents. Yeah, because Carmen, me
and my mom, we kept talking like her because we thought she had this
funny accent she put on. Paulina de la Mora is the character's name,
and she has this accent that's just so fun, and so I actually started
talking like her. But that that actress was hurt during this earthquake. Oh,
just to like give people an idea, because I'm sure there's people out
there that watched it, but you should watch it. It's it's pretty funny.
Well, is it on vix because that's where I watch a lot of
my Spanish stuff. No, no, this is on Netflix. Oh okay.
The most damage happened on Alvaro Obregon Avenue and then Amsterdam Avenue as well
as the Philippine Embassy was pretty damaged. Also. Obviously, people like lost
power, like I think it said four million people wow lost power, and
Guerrero, Mexico State wuhakaala and then Mexico City itself because that's where the most
damage happened. But like during these kind of like disasters on Mexico comes together
pretty fast to rescue people, and there was also worldwide help in like rescuing
Carter and I have an episode on his studias Unknown about the beautiful, brave
rescue dog Frida, because we have an episode about like historic dogs, and
Frida played a big role in finding people during the earthquake to the destruction of
the earthquake, and she's she's a cute dog. A rest in peace passed.
Oh yeah, like the several years ago. Now I want to say
they had a whole military military funeral for her. I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
yeah, precious, precious dog. Okay, So in Morellos, seventy
four people died. In Mexico City two hundred and twenty people died a lot
Guerrero six people, and then one percent in Wahaka, and then in Mexico
City, I think, what what are the buildings that affected people the most
or like was the most like impact there? You could say, is that
the school what is the name of the school? Was it Monterrey Institute of
Technology and Higher Education? Was that the one? Or was that no?
No, no, Enrica Henriquet, Yeah, it's Enrique Salmon's school collapsed and
there was twenty six students and for instrum. Actually you're going to talk a
little bit more about that, so I won't get into that. But that
was it. So that school collapsed, and then there was a high school
that also collapsed. Wow. And yeah, like I think six thousand people
were injured, almost you know, almost three hundred were killed. So then
there was an investigation that the next month, in October twenty seventeen, that
like they wanted to figure out, like, why was there more damage here?
More damage than there should have been? Right? And so apparently this
investigation revealed that since twenty twelve, there have been over six thousand complaints about
construction violations in Mexico City. Wow. Yeah, and with no records if
anyone followed up on those complaints. And many of the buildings mentioned in the
complaints were the ones that collapsed. Wow. Local activists started protesting because they,
you know, were claiming that the construction system was totally corrupt. Developers
often skipped regulations, authorities ignored complaints. One one building owner, actually the
owner of I think the school, the elementary school, Monica Garcia Villegas,
was found guilty. She was prosecuted for culpable homicide and she was found guilty
in twenty twenty because she ignored safety regulations which caused the building to collapse.
And I believe she might have been the only one that has been prosecuted for
this. Oh my god, the only one. But yeah, yeah,
yeah, you would think there'd be more people. Oh Cecila Suarez, that's
the actress from the show that I mentioned, the House of Flowers that was
injured. They were filming the episode the show when the earthquake happened, and
was she was injured during the earthquake. But yeah, I mean, like
more more people were hurt than should have they should have been because of the
like skipping cutting corners to save money, ignoring people's complaints, rebuilding oh my
god, buildings with like the same material that had been stop it. Yeah
yeah, like the damaged buildings. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. They
began building with the same materials almost a lot of places, which made everything
obviously worse. Yes, And it's also like brings up a topic that I
wrote my notes, but I remember a while back, was the discussion between
like British people who are like, oh my god, American houses are so
flimsy and made out of wood. And I'm like, well, I live
in California. If we have an earthquake, a brick building would crush us.
Wood is yeah, you hide under table. Yeah. And then Mexico
that was I think probably another problem because a lot of things are still made
with like clay and stone over there, No, Yeah, a lot of
comer a lot of yeah. Concrete, yeah, which from what I remember,
the school that collapsed or one of them, had a lot of these
like huge concrete slabs, which is one of the leading causes of the deaths
of so many and the reason it collapsed. It's just not earthquake proof and
not even like wood buildings are. But like, if you think about it,
concrete slab falling on top of you versus like a wood wouldn't beam,
you'd probably survive, have a higher chance of surviving a wooden thing falling on
you than you would conte. But it always like blows my mind that people
are like, why don't you make materials that last fur It's like because we
live on a fault line, A bunch of fault lines, A bunch of
fault lines, Like have you seen the movies what does it called? Yeah?
And I've seen San Andrea's fault. It is It's huge. It like
just it feels like it goes on forever. Mm hmm. Welcome to our
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doing that. So the girl who never existed Frida Sophia, And as you
said, on the nineteenth of September twenty seventeen, there was a massive earthquake
and it was a devastating. But as soon as like the people felt the
earthquake and they saw like what happened to the school, people just were like
running to help the people trapped inside. You know. It led to a
huge talk as Christina went over over the infrastructure, but people really came together
at the time, like the community, and as soon as this happened,
they started trying to remove debris and all that stuff. So within the twenty
four hours of the earthquake, reports of a girl who had been trapped inside
the robble began to emerge. It is not known who started the rumors,
but Televisa was the first to air the story. The reporter for te Levisa
Danielle diurb diuribe, I don't know these, it's d I t h u
r I b E. I think it's the Thuribi said that the information had
come from the rescue teams. Danielle was the only reporter at the time who
was given access to the scene, and according to her, she was told
by the rescue team that with a thermal scanner they had found a twelve year
old girl trap under the rubble. The rescue team had made contact with her
and her name was Frida Sophia, and that the rescuers was holding the last
name. Why would they do that? Yeah? Red flag number one.
Yeah. Danielle later began to interview rescuers, and one in particular, name
Atermio, said in the interview that he had heard the voice of the girl.
He went on to say, yes, some very faint voices of the
girl, apparently called Sophie. He went on to say that he asked her
her name and she replied Sophie, Sophie. The Associated press had a similar
story given to them by another rescuer, and according to Danielle, another rescuer
named Raoul Rodrigo Ernandez Ayella had said that the girl is alive, and she
has vital signs. I don't know how they knew she had vital signs,
considering right. Televisa went on to report that five children had been found alive
in the basement of the school, and according to that same report, the
day after the earthquake on Wednesday, rescue workers had seen the girl trapped under
the rubble. She was asked to move her hand if she could hear them,
and she did, and a rescue doug was sent in to confirm she
was alive. From here, the story grew and it was a trending hashtag
on Twitter, hashtag freda Sofia. Yeah, people like, I guess because
it was like a story of hope, like, oh, let's save this
girl. People really like threw themselves into yeah save that Sofia. Yeah.
So it was a yeah, it was a huge thing. Yes, And
I don't think I was. I was on Twitter, I like, I
had an account at the time, but I wasn't on Twitter, you know
what I mean when it happened. Yeah, I just remember all the news
outlets were posting about it same same. So by Thursday, many of the
rescuers were under the assumption that the girl was alive, under the rubble.
There was also footage captured by a news station where a rescue worker was asking
another to dig and being told what area to look for the girl. Because
journalists were not allowed on site, they got their information from rescue workers and
not from government officials. Soon after, government officials began to tell the same
story that Frida Sofia was under the rubble and there was a rescue mission to
find her. That same morning, Navy officer, I think it says Admiral
adm oh Like a rank eightm Yeah, Josse Luis Vergara had told Televisa that
there was in fact a girl trapped inside, but couldn't find her location and
didn't know how to get to her. The Navy soon then recounted their statem
and said that eleven children had been rescued from the rubble. Nineteen bodies of
both children and adults were recovered, but no other child was believed to be
trapped. They did find the body of another adult on Sunday. Navy Assistant
Secretary anhel Enrique sar Ramienthal said, we want to emphasize that we have no
knowledge about the report that emerged with the name of the girl. We never
had any knowledge about the report and we do not believe. We are sure
it was not a reality. I'm like one of your officials in the opposite
but okay. Saramento said that a thermal camera was lowered into the rouble,
but it only detected blood and the only person that was missing was a fifty
eight year old woman who was an employee at the school. Her body was
removed that Thursday after the earthquake. It was believed that it was this woman
whose hands the rescuers saw At the time. Workers were using the help of
a rescue dog named Frida, which many think is where some of the confusion
came from. The Navy later apologized for the report that was given by Jossel
Luis Vergara. They said that they were relying on information provided to them by
the rescuers. This mismanagement of reporting has had many people angry, and rightfully
so. There has also been several conspiracy theories that have emerged from this,
and one of them is that because there were elections that were about to happen,
they used this ploy by the government and the current president parties to garner
sympathy and also to show like a force of leadership. I am unsure how
this came to be, but I also think it has a lot to do
with people witnessing something horrific and together having this trauma responsive confusion, Yeah for
sure, plus like wanting something hopeful to latch onto. Yeah, and you
know, after especially after saying like digging up kids, like that's yeah,
fucked, that's fine. Yeah, it's just like I mentioned this last episode,
but I just can't help but to keep being reminded of the terrible videos
coming out of Gaza and like the people and children and I mean everyone being
pulled out of the rubble. But yeah, like, yeah, of course
they want to find someone alive down there, so like wish we'll thinking hope
to latch onto. I'm not surprised that it happened during this earthquake and nineteen
eighty five also, yes, okay, so that being said, I could
have sworn I seen a face poking out from the hole in one of the
rubble of a little girl during a news segment. Yeah, and it makes
you wonder that they doctor that image. Yeah, But like the weird thing
is it was like it wasn't even reported on by the news media. It
was like just fans being like, oh my god, rewind that I saw
something? Oh no, you're right, I remember this. Yeah. Yeah.
So it wasn't even the news mea being like, there's the girl.
It was like people who were watching the news and be like, what the
hell is that in the background. Yeah, Like they were just talking about
it and in the background the video was playing and like people pausing it could
see like, oh my god, what is that? Right, but like
the anchors themselves, they didn't notice it. Yeah, yeah, so I
remember that, And I did get a screen recording and now it's very pixelated.
I couldn't find the original video or the original original news reporting of this,
but I got a screen grab of a recording and it's terrible. But
anyways, this is also where things get a little weird. Story of Frida
Sophia also brought me to a story from nineteen eighty five, and there was
an earthquake in Mexico City that year. As Christina went over and they reported
on a boy who was missing, trapped under rubble, and they nicknamed him
Monchito. Hundreds of people mobilized and began searching through the rubble for Monchito.
Even after all the rubble was cleared, they never found him, leading people
to believe he never existed. There were also many theories, and rescuers at
the time also recounted that they had contact with him. His parents, however,
had disappeared from the public eye and have not been seen since. So
yeah, suspicious, weird it. Yeah, did you come across the idea
and I never saw it? Or I haven't seen this about Monchito, but
I have seen it about Frida Sofia. But that Frida Sofia was a ghost
I have heard of that I have and I don't like. The one thing
that I'm thinking of is like they thought that the the in the area that
they were looking for Frida Sophia they were also they were they found the late
the body of the fifty eight year old woman. So I'm thinking it's like,
you know how a lot of people say, like you revert to your
happiest when you die, or I'm like, what if that was like her
ghost just reverting back to being a little girl and it was her? Yeah?
Maybe, But let me tell you about a TikTok user. Her name
is Lay. Oh my god, I lay there, I lay there,
and she was a lot younger when the earthquake happened, and so she posted
a video. I don't know when she posted it actually, but she insists
in her video that Philadosophia was actually a ghost and that that ghost of that
little girl that is Philosophia, she had been seeing that ghost since twenty twelve.
Oh yes, she's like the news they were wrong in the sense that
they thought it was someone alive. But Fida Sophia does exist. She's just
a ghost. She said the ticktoker that she lived in a building in front
of the schoolba's men and that there was at least like two or three occasions
where she herself saw Sophia the ghost as well as a family member of hers.
Maybe that's what was captured in the news segment, right, yeah,
yeah, that or like the way you said that it was the woman who
had died and then just she reverted back into like being a child a child.
Yeah, but she's uh the TikToker she said that or TikTok. I
don't know if she's like an actual TikToker or she like just posted this one
video and then didn't post anything else. I haven't looked at her account because
I just came across like an article about it. So she said that she
used to walk her dog super late, like at one or two am.
Oh my god, Like why you're just begging to see something in those hours,
I know, especially like in Mexico, it's like there's so many creepy
shit there, like you do not go out unless you absolutely have to.
Yeah, during one of those walks, she came across a girl as like
a translucent girl in white, and that was Philosophia, And I guess she
had also seen her in her like apartment building, like in the hallway as
well in between like the I guess she's had a long hallway and then there
was like a fountain at the end of the hallway and they've seen her,
and like her family has seen Philosophia there too. She she came out and
was like saying that it's actually it's real, the ghost of a girl.
But she she was real, So I don't know, I don't know,
that's creepy. But also did you know that do you remember the legend of
La Planchada. Yes, Okay, so there's a version of the legend where
Laplanchada the nurse and I guess just a cook reminder for anyone that doesn't remember.
But the legend of Laplanchada is that in hospital quarrees and squares, this
nurse like loved this doctor and then he got married to someone else and she
was like jealous, and then she began like mistreating her patients and then like
killed herself in guilt and then now comes back. And there's some versions of
the legend where she's like evil, but there's other versions where she comes back
and just helps people in the hospital. Yeah, but there's a version of
the legend that says that she died during the nineteen eighty five earthquake. She
was a nurse in the hospital when the hospital collapsed, and the hospital did
collapse, and people you know, did die in the hospital, including nurses
and patients and doctors. So one version of the legend is that she was
one of those nurses and now she comes back still like helping people in the
afterlife, which I did not know that version at all. It's all connected,
yeah, yeah, so a couple of couple of ghosts attached to these
earthquakes. And there's also an urban legend that Mexico. I don't remember if
it's all of Mexico, Mexico or just Mexico City is cursed and that there's
an earthquake, like a devastating earthquake every thirty years. Have you heard that
one? No? I have not. Oh yeah, yeah, So apparently
in the years nineteen eleven, nineteen thirty two, nineteen fifty seven, nineteen
eighty five, and then twenty seventeen, we're all devastating earthquakes in stud that
Mexico were like more than seven point zero in magnitude and like a lot of
deaths. Wow, I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, so if
that it's if that's true, then the next one is would be I can't
do mathul. I'm with my calculator. I feel that thirty twenty forty seven,
twenty forty seven. Wow. Yeah. I hope they're prepared by them,
hopefully, hopefully. I'm curious to see if there will be another ghost
child. That is so weird though that it happened twice, right, and
it made news twice because there was newspapers of the little boy who was missing
in the eighty in eighty five. Yeah, certainly strange, but yeah,
I guess that brings us to the end of this episode. Do you have
anything else to add about the earthquake. No, I think that's all okay.
Oh, actually I do have one more thing to add about the earthquake.
After it happened. So it happened in September. And I was in
Guada Dajaa in October twenty seventeen and there was a game. I don't remember
who they were playing or what if. It was like a friendly game,
but it was like Mexico versus another country, like it was like a national
game. There was a moment of silence during during the game for the earthquake
and all like all the victims of the earthquake, and uh, it was
like so emotional. I was crying like a little bait, like a little
baby during the moment of silence. My my grandpa rest in peace, was
still alive and so and he like he you know, loves soccer and we
were like all watching the game and he was there with He normally is always
raining like an Atlas jersey, but he brought out his Mexico jersey for that
and he stood up during the moment of silence and he's like because he always
coughs instead of crying. Instead of crying, he starts coughing, so he
was like, and every time I hear him do that, then I start
crying and so it was Yeah, it was emotional. But but yeah,
that's all I was gonna add about the earthquake. But yeah, before we
go, first I want to say sorry to all the patrons for being behind
on so much. Oh yes, I'm sorry. We are sorry. We
will get back to it soon. Not this week, but m maybe next
week. Yeah, maybe maybe we'll see. I will make stickers though this
week, I think, and send them out. But yeah, we're like
behind on episodes. I did record. I'm behind on everything life life is
like. I recorded one with Carmen, a Patroon episode okay in October,
so there was a monthly episode. And yeah, well, before we go,
do you have any recommendations spooky or anything. I'm saying anything now since
you don't watch anything or you haven't watched anything, I don't want. Yeah.
The only thing I've watched is the Twilight Zone, but the old one,
like the original one, and that's if you guys want to rewatch that.
They have a pretty lengthy episode like list, there's a lot of episodes.
Even though there was I think only like five seasons each each season had
like a lot, so it's gonna take you a minute while through. Yeah,
Like I mean, I started rewatching it like maybe six months ago and
I'm still I'm barely like an episode two. But I don't really watch TV,
so they're sad. Yeah, but it takes. It takes a while.
Like we will watch an episode, maybe two episodes, just three episodes
a week if that, if we get a chance, but yeah, I
don't really, but for those like binging, there's several days worth of episodes,
maybe like a month even probably like a month. Yeah. Wow,
Well I have been watching the Twin Flames documentary on Netflix, and that is
wild. I did. I haven't even heard this and tell you guys,
you haven't looked you Oh wow, I don't watch anything. Yeah, Twin
Flames is like this cult tea. Well, no, it is a cult.
The Twin Flames University itself is a cult. And then the idea of
a twin Flame and looking or like new Age believes like I was telling you
earlier, like what we were messaging, but that new Age cult to being
in a cult pipeline. Oh my god, it's so real. And that's
what happened to a lot of these people. They were like googling, how
I felt the most intense connection ever? What is this? And then they
would google that and then like twin flames Flame University would pop up and it
was run by uh, this guy. Oh my god, is it still
run Actually a might still be going on, but Sheila and I cannot remember
the guy's name. They have been together, I don't know how long.
Too long apparently, yeah, too long. Apparently they've been running this like
university to teach others to find their twin flame because they have found each other.
So this means that they're now the sole authority figure into telling people how
to do this, and and they like talk about God and like all these
godly things, and then like he people would sign up and like they pay
like this insane amount of money for these classes, different black classes, to
like get to know themselves so they could be like a better partner and then
eventually find their twin flame. That's called therapy. But then he started,
yeah, yeah, right, do that instead. But then he started telling
people like, oh, this is your twin flame, Like I know it,
this is your twin flame. You have to be with this person and
basically forcing these two people together. There was like one girl who was like
eighteen, and he told her that her twin flame was like this guy that
was like fifteen years older than her and who was a felon, and then
he was like abusive. Yeah, just things like that. It's a wild
documentary. I listened to a podcast about it a while ago, which is
also really good, and it's almost the same information. Honestly, I think
this documentary might include like a few newer things. There was this other girl
who like thought her twin flame was her ex and he the guy told her
like, yeah, that's your twin flame. You have to do whatever you
can to like be with this person. And then this ended up resulted in
her getting like a restraining order placed on her m m and then she was
arrested for violating that restraining order. Oh my god. You know, following
this twin flame mindset that is bonkers. Like yeah, like if you have
if someone has to tell you who your twin flame is, yor not your
twin flame, if someone has to tell you what a twin flame is.
The idea of twin flame just isn't real to me, oh man, But
yeah, you should watch it. You should watch it. It's good.
That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, do you have a book club update?
I should be finished reading probably by this weekend or next for sure. Whoo
okay, okay, we're getting close. I'm sorry, guys, I just
been I've been busy. I got injured. My dad had surgery. No,
don't even worry. It's called the book lover Busy people. Life is
like it's in the name, you know, Like I think that I think
what was it like? Uh? The past two weekends was the first two
weekends and like I want to say, like four months that I actually got
to sleep in. Man. Yeah, it's like, oh my god,
is this is this is what it feels like to get sleep Oh wow,
it's rough out here, it is. But yeah, I guess this actually
brings us to the end of the episode. Yes, so stay spooky and
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