WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:09.160 Coming up this week on the mark Cast Big CFL Week fifteen pregame show. 2 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:12.039 This week, have you covered both with the East Division and the West. 3 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:16.839 Two great CFL reporters plus two player interviews coming at you. Jeff Hamilton from 4 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:21.440 the Winnipeg Free Press joins us to preview everything on the CFL West Division. 5 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:25.199 We're talking BC Lions, Blue Bombers, Alex everyone else. There was a 6 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:28.839 burning fire in Zach Clarson the team all week, they just didn't share it. 7 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:33.359 They took their opportunity at ig Field Saturday afternoon in the Banjo Bowl, 8 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:37.479 and did they ever answer back? And then Dan Ralph from the Canadian Press 9 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.880 joins us. We are talking the Argos. We're talking tie casts, red 10 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:44.000 Blacks, everything going on over there, the Alouettes, what do we make 11 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:48.719 of them? And more? Sometimes you know the best option is to live 12 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:52.280 to play another down rather than go for the whole inch. Alauda. But 13 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.920 having said that, if I had Austin mac as a receiver, maybe I 14 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:00.200 would hold onto the ball too. The XFL is reportedly not renewing the contracts 15 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.960 for its assistant coaches, and Twitter is melting down. I give my two 16 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.159 cents on the situation that has the Internet unraveling. This week, everybody's dialed 17 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.959 and everybody knew what they had to do. You know, Coach Thorpe does 18 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:14.640 a great job, like, you know, make sure you understand what we 19 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:17.719 have to do because last like I said, last week is a bit of 20 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:19.959 a it's a bit of a crap shoot. Really, we kind of embarrassed 21 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.040 ourselves out there, not kind of, we didn't embarrass ourselves, So you 22 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.359 know, it's excited to go back in now everybody has like a clear, 23 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:32.239 clearer visional on what exactly what we need to get done this week. And 24 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.959 then two great player interviews. We have Almanda Sewell of the Montreal Alouettes and 25 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:40.040 Matthew Batts of America CFL team the BC Lions joining us. Hope you guys 26 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:59.799 enjoy it, Like and subscribe. Hey guys, welcome to the marcast. 27 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:05.280 Here busy week trying to get all of this recorded. I hope you guys 28 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.319 enjoy Welcome. Thank you for stopping by today. Jeff Hamilton, how the 29 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:14.159 chaotic morning car accident. Everything's fine, made it on the show, working 30 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:16.280 around everything a couple of different days, trying to get the month to seewell 31 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:20.520 on the program. Really appreciate his time. So I just hope you guys 32 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:23.280 enjoy it. I can subscribe if you enjoy the content we do here, 33 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:27.800 trying to get up to thirty five hundred subscribers Big CFO Week fifteen. Here 34 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:31.800 four great matchups over the weekend. That we have the Montreal hosting Toronto here 35 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:36.120 they have their big BMX them that bike night happening there. And then we 36 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:39.159 have Edmonton traveling to Saskatchewan. Very excited for that. Elks kind of rolling 37 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:43.960 right now with straight forward and then obviously a Winnipeg roll went into Hamilton. 38 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:46.120 Hope Hamilton puts up a little bit more of a five than we were expecting. 39 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:51.000 And then Ottawa coming home. In my opinion, that must win for 40 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.240 the BC Lions. BC Lions cannot be dropping any games right now, especially 41 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:58.759 to Ottawa at home. Like I said, four great interviews today, we 42 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.719 have a Jeff Hamilton join us from the Winnipeg Free Press. Really appreciate him 43 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:05.439 making the time, like I said, on a chaotic morning on his part, 44 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.639 Really appreciate that. And then Dan Ralph always making time to come on 45 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:13.319 the program. Can't wait to see Dan back up. Dan and Jeff probably 46 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.840 back up in Hamilton for the Great Cup this year, and then really appreciate 47 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:21.560 Francis everyone over at the Montreal Aloettes getting the month of seewell on the program. 48 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.120 And then Matt Baker and I took in a Mariner game here one of 49 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:29.879 the one loss we have this week to the Anaheim Angels. It's very very 50 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.199 sad that extra innings loss, but spent lots of time hanging out with Matt 51 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:37.080 and the rest of the BC Lions content team. Really appreciate him setting up 52 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:38.960 Matthew Bets coming on the program that's going to probably do it for me today. 53 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.599 I do have the article up. I know there were reports out this 54 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:47.520 week of XFL assistant coaches contracts not being renewed. Obviously, you know the 55 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:53.280 online stress and kind of discussion and argument that's going to a riots from that, 56 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.840 similar to you know, the XFL losing sixty million. We kind of 57 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.159 lived through all that a few months ago. I will say, genuinely so 58 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:06.240 happy to be podcasting CFL right now and be talking actual football and not expansion 59 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:13.759 or hypothetical expansion or hypothetical rebranding through extension. Like really just enjoying talking football 60 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.160 right now. Really enjoying all of our conversations involved with that with the CFL, 61 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:19.079 but I did want to touch on this today. I asked Andy, 62 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.879 like, do you have any hot takes on this? And you know we've 63 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:25.240 kind of talked about it in the group chat this week, but I figured 64 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:29.639 that would give my two cents on here. Article notes XFL assistant coaches facing 65 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:34.040 uncertainty as contracts wind down. The September twenty second is going to be I 66 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:39.399 guess the end date for the current contracts of all the assistant coaches and not 67 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:43.879 the head coaches and not the XFL coordinators, but the assistant coaches. It 68 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:47.160 sounds like they'll be have benefits paid out through September thirty if the assistant coaches 69 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:51.120 contracts are set to expire with no clear date set for renewal of their agreements 70 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:56.240 as the league explores new payment structures. Obviously, you can imagine kind of 71 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.800 the drama and stress to went online when all of these reports came out this 72 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.240 week. To me, I don't know, I don't want to call this 73 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:08.560 for nothing burger because obviously these are people's lives and careers and trying to get 74 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.279 work. It looks like they can apply for unemployment here in the off season 75 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:16.040 as early as the new contract could come up as early as November or January, 76 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.360 so they could do the unemployment in the meantime and the next year maybe 77 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:24.800 they have a different contract in place, and you could be under unemployment for 78 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:28.920 longer, you know, from maybe potentially May through November. I don't know. 79 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:30.680 To me, Andy and I have talked about this at nauseum on here 80 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.519 at the seasonal nature of the XFL, and as much as we want them 81 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.959 to operate, it's kind of a three sixty five business right now, I 82 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.920 just don't think that that's proven. We've seen that with the USFL basically go 83 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:46.040 dark, you know, following their season, except for these NFL the US 84 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.399 develo, the NFL signings, but pretty much go dark in that regard. 85 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.639 Feels like similar here. You know, do we need to keep the assistant 86 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:56.079 coaches on staff payroll, you know, throughout the year, even if they're 87 00:05:56.079 --> 00:06:00.800 only theoretically working the formats of the year. Obviously I use the air quotes 88 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.439 on that because I believe football staffs work all year. We've had Evan on 89 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.399 here, you know, the director assistant director of player personnel over at the 90 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:11.839 Vegas Nighthawks. You know, if I don't think football as scouting, football 91 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.439 development, coaching, any of that ever goes into the offseason. But if 92 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.959 your quote unquote theoretically only working four months for the XFL, really kind of 93 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:25.120 hard to have them to justify paying those contracts right now four twelve months out 94 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.079 of the year. We'll see. Like I said, we've seen similar models 95 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:31.279 and notes here, driving parallels with the USFLS operational brew planet. The XFL 96 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:36.000 is contemplating the pay model where assistant coaches would become stage during active periods ranging 97 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:40.439 from training camp to the ongoing season. That set up the echoes part time 98 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:46.360 employment more than a full time commitment. Mark had the extra little quote here, 99 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.480 and this is kind of where and I get we got to do clicks 100 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:54.399 and all that, but the tumultuous scenario evokes concerns, yet also opportunities for 101 00:06:54.439 --> 00:07:00.800 restructuring and revitalization as league evolves to establish a sound operational base that augments these 102 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.160 sports growth trajectory. If I said that right, like I said, I 103 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:09.160 wouldn't worry too much about it. I think that anything right now that they 104 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:13.279 feel will justify them. And continuing to hear two a year three, continuing 105 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.639 to give people opportunities, players, staff, coaches, all of that game 106 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:21.199 day staff, ticket sales staff, the announcers, at the commentators, you 107 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:26.439 know, the in stadium hosting experience, any of that stuff, anything they 108 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:29.279 need to do if they feel like Redbird is saying, we need to cut 109 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.319 costs right now to maintain We've seen the USFL go through this. As long 110 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:35.480 as it doesn't affect you know, the product on the field, I think 111 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:39.199 we'll be in good hands. Obviously we're going to continue to monitor this, 112 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:41.720 But I just wanted to give my two cents on that here. Like I 113 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:44.560 said, didn't feel like there was enough for a full segment today, but 114 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:46.319 I obviously wanted to share my thoughts on that. So, like I said, 115 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.000 please like and subscribe lots of CFL concept this week. We'll get you 116 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:55.439 know, continuing on the XML bandwagon right now when news dictates and kind of 117 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:58.160 justifies that. But like a subscribe, But we'll see at the end. 118 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:05.680 Mix. Well, this man's had an interesting morning here. I appreciate Jeff 119 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.120 Hamilton coming on. I will say I felt like Leonardo DiCaprio, you know 120 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.000 the meme where he's like sitting on the couch pointing at the TV. I 121 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.319 was watching Zach Colaross post press conference. Was it two weeks ago with the 122 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.360 head butt herd around the world? I that's Jeff Jesse. You know what 123 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.319 are they gonna do? I don't know what they're gonna do. How are 124 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.560 you doing, sir? Yeah? Really good man, Like you said, 125 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.639 a little bit of an adventure this morning with a car collision, but all 126 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.240 in all safe, happy to be on here and looking forward to to talk 127 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.360 him three down football man. It's been a while. I've obviously been listening 128 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:39.320 and whatnot, but it feels great to be on and uh and talking about 129 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.480 the league. We love covering. Yeah, it's good here. So you 130 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.279 know, life is good in Winnipeg. I wanted to get your thoughts first 131 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.039 on this because I, you know, the Labor Day game was great. 132 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:52.559 I was able to listen to that. I was filming and I had it 133 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.600 up on my headphones. You know, Winnipeg losing that right and then coming 134 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:01.039 back and really just kind of kicking the snot out of the Saskatchewan last week. 135 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.279 What did you make of that? You know what? It was? 136 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:07.000 Personal? It was I don't know how else to explain it. I mean 137 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.919 that was an extremely disappointing loss, as you alluded to, you know, 138 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:16.159 just seconds ago about the Labor Day Classic, and of course the Pete Robertson 139 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:22.000 headbut heard round the CFL, and and of course the post game chatter. 140 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.360 I mean, Zach Claris is is a fiery guy, but I've never seen 141 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:28.519 him that livid, that angry, and of course he was not happy with 142 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.440 the Pete Robertson head butt. And he's been a guy who's been very vocal 143 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:37.440 about protecting quarterbacks in the league, not doing enough to protect their best players, 144 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.559 and you know, it was it was one of those where it was 145 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:41.559 like, you know, it was he was really mad about the headbut the 146 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:45.480 you know, that was personal to him. He's been very vocal about the 147 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.879 CFL and not protecting its best players. So he took that opportunity. But 148 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.559 make no mistake, man, he was incredibly upset about the offensive effort, 149 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:56.000 the inconsistency. I mean, they still came within a two point convert of 150 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:00.240 tying that game and pushing it to another, you know, another over time, 151 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:03.919 and certainly could have won that game, you know, even not playing 152 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.240 at their best. But Zach Claris took the un characteristic step after the game 153 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.759 and addressed the team. Look, this guy is an absolute leaders. He's 154 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.759 the unquestionable leader on the team. But he's a lead by example guy, 155 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.240 so very rarely does he address the team. He addressed the team after the 156 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:22.279 Labor Day Classic, you know, just said to them. You know, 157 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.039 I'll sum it up pretty much, was, Hey, what an awful game 158 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.639 we played. We did not live up to our standards. We have an 159 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:33.159 opportunity in a week's time to make things right. We better be taking full 160 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:35.720 advantage. And you know, the Bombers are so good at at the whole 161 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.200 one and oh process, at the whole boring. You know, we're you 162 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.320 know, we're focused on us and not getting too high with the wins and 163 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.960 not getting too low with the losses. But there was a burning fire in 164 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.279 Zach Claris and the team all week. They just didn't share it. They 165 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.120 took their opportunity at ig Field Saturday afternoon in the Banjo Bowl, and did 166 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.480 they ever answer back. I mean, this is a team that had slow 167 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.840 starts the last four games, and all of a sudden, we look, 168 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.600 okay, first drive one touchdown, second drive two touchdowns. Okay, I 169 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.879 guess they got the memo about the slow starts. By halftime they have gone 170 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.159 six for six and it was nearly a perfect a perfect half. And I 171 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.559 mean there was only nine points scored all by the Bombers in the final two 172 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:18.480 quarters. But what an answer for them. And I mean not that it 173 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.240 was surprising. I thought that the Riders would have a bit more confidence. 174 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.919 Maybe they had too much confidence. I thought they'd be better off in that 175 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.759 game. But certainly the crowd played played a role and the Bombers just did 176 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:35.720 an old fashioned ship kicking as we saw. It's weird to me because I 177 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:37.919 want to talk about BC here in a little bit, but you know, 178 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.080 I don't think that BC has carried loss as well into the next week, 179 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.000 like you know, ricks, Oh, we gotta kind of forget about that. 180 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:46.759 Like I think you need to carry over some of that sometimes. And 181 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.399 I like hearing that that Winnipeg we played like duty here we want to come 182 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.080 back in. What was weird was you know, at least during the Labor 183 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:58.679 Day game, Saskatchewan felt like a semblance of our actual football team and like 184 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.879 I Della Galla is going to be good the defense and all this stuff, 185 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.120 and then to completely you know, kind of be locked down here. Whether 186 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.279 you make of Saskatchewan as a football team, you know what, they're so 187 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.240 confusing to me. I just you know, you look at what they've gone 188 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.679 through this year. There's no doubt about it. They've been They've been hit 189 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:16.519 by the injury bug. I mean, they lost, you know, obviously, 190 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.120 Trevor Harris to what looks like it's probably going to be a season end, 191 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.919 season ending injury. He addressed the media I believe yesterday or a couple 192 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.679 of days ago, and said he hopes to return, but doesn't look good. 193 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.200 You know. Then Mason Fine has a hamstring injury, and then they 194 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.120 get forced on by Jake Dola Galla, who if you talk to a lot 195 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.840 of people in Saskatchewan, they've been calling for this guy to be the quarterback 196 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.840 from you know, maybe not from the beginning. Trevor Harris was certainly the 197 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:46.559 guy they needed to get. They needed some after last season's debacle. They 198 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.159 needed that position to be consistent, right. I mean, Cody Fajardo he's 199 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.240 doing well in Montreal right now, but he he just was a different cat 200 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.159 last season and by the end of the year, it was just you need 201 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.679 to shore up that position, So getting Trevor Harris was the was the certainly 202 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:03.440 the answer. I think Jake Dolegal is the future. I like what we 203 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:05.799 saw from him. I mean, you know, he did not look good 204 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.759 against Winnipeg and they did everything, you know, in their power to stop 205 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.080 him. As a defense, that happens when your offense puts up that many 206 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.679 touchdowns and you're forced to throw the ball. I mean, they would have 207 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:18.960 thrown their game plan I imagine out the window by the third drive because they 208 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.240 were they were playing catch up. That forces them to throw. And like 209 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.279 I said, i G Field was absolutely booming. It was sold out, 210 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.559 you know, very difficult to deal with the sound, much like the Bombers 211 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.799 were dealing to Mosaics Stadium the week before. That's just very challenging. But 212 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:35.759 I just don't know what to read on the rough Riders. I came into 213 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.240 the season extremely low on them. I didn't think Craig Dickinson would have a 214 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.320 job by by Labor Day weekend. I thought this was a show me kind 215 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:48.000 of Well, absolutely was a show me season for Jeremy O Day and Craig 216 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.240 Dickinson. They both don't have contracts for next season and coming off an absolutely 217 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.480 disappointing season. Why where they didn't even make the playoffs in the year they 218 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.120 were hosting the Great Cup. I thought that was you know, that was 219 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.600 going to be the end of them. Now looking at them, you know 220 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.159 at six and six, they were six and five paying into this past weekend. 221 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:07.559 That's about as good as I thought they would be. Are they a 222 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:11.399 good team? No? But guess what, the rest of the West sucks? 223 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.519 So they just sit there comfortably in third place in the West at six 224 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.879 and six, and Calgary did themselves no favors Edmonton as well, splitting that 225 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.759 you know, home and home series over the last two weekends. That's about 226 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.159 it. That's exactly what the rough Riders were hoping for. So it just 227 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.720 looks less like this team is all that threatening. I mean, they did 228 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:33.600 have an impressive showing against Winnipeg, and we know how good the Bombers have 229 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:35.440 been for years, so you gotta give them credit for that, and you 230 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.080 gotta give them credit for going into BC and beating them, you know, 231 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:41.879 beating them as well. So you know, I think that you know, 232 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:45.840 we've certainly seen Oh no, that was actually at home. It was Hamilton 233 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.759 that went into BC and gave them there and took their lunch money. But 234 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:50.960 still regardless, BC's are really good, talented team. So for them to 235 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.720 go back to back, I think a lot of people were high on them, 236 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.399 thought that perhaps even if they could somehow win last weekend, which they 237 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:03.519 didn't even closed, that they were in conversations for maybe capturing the West Well 238 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.799 slam. Back to reality, I do not look at this team as a 239 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:09.759 juggernaut. I don't look at them look at them as a threat. I 240 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.399 look at the Barbers and you know, the BC Lions and a class of 241 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.759 their own, and then the Rough Riders in the mushy middle, and then 242 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.960 the basement being Calgary and Edmonton. So I still don't. I think we're 243 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:22.960 gonna get a lot of answers, you know, of who this Rough Riders 244 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:26.679 team is here down the stretch. But my opinion, over the last five 245 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:28.039 or six games, we're going to see a lot of what we predicted kind 246 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.600 of a five hundred team. They'll get into the playoffs, and I think 247 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.639 they'll be an early exit against the Lions in that in that West semi well. 248 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.480 Because that's my question, and we had some of the BC Lions staff 249 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.360 down here for a Mariners game this week and we were talking, you know, 250 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:45.960 talking kind of West Finals, and you know, I have been a 251 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.840 frustrated fan a year with BC and some of these very winnable games. Right, 252 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.279 Okay, Winnipeg, that's one thing, but you know, you need 253 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.519 to be Hamilton. You need to be at Saskatchewan here. And I don't 254 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.960 know if Saskatchewan comes into be you know, I don't think BC place is 255 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:03.360 this like you know, Lions have this incredible home field advantage there, right, 256 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:06.320 if it'd be different if it was in Saskatchewan, like, I don't 257 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:07.799 know. I mean last year I saw in Calgary fallow the BC. I 258 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.159 don't know. I mean the Sascatchman kind of gets their head out of their 259 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:14.360 bat here. It could be kind of different. Yeah, I mean that's 260 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.080 the beauty of the CFL, like that you can change the narrative with one 261 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.159 win each week. I mean, the Edmonton Elks lost their first nine games 262 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:25.480 and of what, won the last three of their last four games or whatever 263 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.120 it is, and they're in conversation for the East, you know, swing 264 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:32.879 over. So it's like it really is a week to week thing. And 265 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.320 we're getting to that time though, where it's kind of the pictures, kind 266 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:41.639 of showing itself. I think the BC Lions are a fascinating team. You 267 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.360 made a point earlier read and I agree with it whole hardly, and I've 268 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.720 been saying it on every interview I have. The BC Lions are incredibly talented. 269 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.480 They have continuity, which is which has been the Bomber's bread and butter 270 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:55.919 for the last few years. You know, so they have guys who have 271 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.840 been in that locker room for years. The problem is they still are learning 272 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.320 how to win and lose. You know, you need to learn how to 273 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.200 lose, but you also need to learn how to win games. And and 274 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.119 you know, we saw that, you know when the when the Lions you 275 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.119 know, beat you know, put a beat down on on the Bombers in 276 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.599 Week three this season. You know, you had Alexander Hollins, who's been 277 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.160 an absolute stud this year. You know, he's probably you know, far 278 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:22.759 and away the best, you know best, you know, first year receiver, 279 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.119 surprising receiver this year. But he, you know, he he's posting 280 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.000 on social media four days later, we're gonna, you know, we're gonna 281 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.720 come into your house and do whatever we want. And I just I just 282 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.839 that to me, I just I could never imagine. I mean, I 283 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:40.640 got to compare him to the Bombers, because that's the team that I cover, 284 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:42.119 and that's a team that's been the class of the CFL. That would 285 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.599 never happen. There was not a single guy on that locker room who four 286 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.319 days later after a win would be celebrating it. And then what happens. 287 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.160 They go into Toronto and they get their asses kicked, and then they come 288 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.759 back to Winnipeg for the second round and Winnipeg puts up a fifty burger on 289 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.680 them. So to me, it's it's less about, you know, the 290 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:02.359 talent for them. There's no doubt they have talent. I mean they got 291 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:06.000 they got great guys on the sixth game I are right now and there's still 292 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:10.759 a dangerous, lethal team right And I'm a fan of Vernon Adams. I 293 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.440 think he's a good quarterback. I was wishwashy about him earlier in the season, 294 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.319 just because of his inconsistencies. But I think he's got that team, 295 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.279 he's got the respect of that team. He's certainly their leader. It's just 296 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:23.279 this is a club that I think is gonna need to just be a little 297 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.079 more mature. You know. I know that's not a great thing to say 298 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:30.440 about a team, but just from what I've seen this season, it's been 299 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.519 there's been some inconsistencies that that get when your head gets a little too big. 300 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.079 And that's the BC Lions for me right now, very talented team. 301 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.359 I would not be I would be worried about them playing them in the playoffs 302 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.640 because it is any given Sunday, right. But at the same time, 303 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.519 they're a team that gets a little bit too emotional at the wrong times and 304 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.359 that's really been the Bomber's bread and butter and why they've been so successful the 305 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:53.920 last few years. Well, I agree with that a lot. You know, 306 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:59.079 I said this is either if you can't beat Ottawa at home this weekend, 307 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:00.599 I mean I would pack up the season and go home. I mean 308 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:04.039 if I was if I Ottawa might be the new CFL's worst team. We 309 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.640 are we there yet, I think we're there. It feels that way, 310 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.039 and we can talk Ottaway too. It's just like you said, there, 311 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:15.000 I don't know if there's something in that locker room. I don't know if 312 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.599 it's Rick or you know, I know Ryan Phillips and like if he's not 313 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:21.880 getting them up. Like it just feels, I don't know, like he's 314 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.160 immature or whatever that they can't you know, the game Toronto, Vernon's throwing 315 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.920 all the picks and like they're freaking out and like, we gotta make a 316 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:30.640 play. We gotta make a play, you know, winn it peg. 317 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.319 Like you said, they'll start slow, or they'll start down, or they'll 318 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.559 start with we're just gonna march down the field and score. We're just gonna 319 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:38.359 march on the field. I don't know, BC, like you said continuity, 320 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:41.960 but they do feel very young and kind of frantic in that way too. 321 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:45.920 It feels like when the good times are rolling, everything's good right, 322 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.359 everyone's eating right. As long as everybody's eating, everyone's happy, everyone's happy 323 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:52.960 with what's going on. And when you see certain games with a couple of 324 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.319 weeks ago that you know, and I think it was that Rider's game or 325 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.680 one after that, whatever you had Alexander Hollins again, I don't mean to 326 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.559 pick on him, but he's slamming his helmet down on the sidelines because because 327 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.000 they didn't convert right or they fumbled that ball, and Butler might have fumbled 328 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:11.240 the ball and so he's sitting there getting angry. You have Lucky Whitehead, 329 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:15.000 who had had an incredibly slow start to the season, tweeting out peace time 330 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.559 out, you know, and they had to explain what that was, and 331 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.480 it was, you know, it's a frustrated guy who's not getting his you 332 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:26.119 know, not getting his catches. Lucky has certainly improved over the last months. 333 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:29.279 He's been getting more of those deep threat passes. He isn't quite the 334 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:32.960 deep threat that he was even last season, but you know, it's just 335 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:34.960 again, it just it kind of points back to the immaturity. And you 336 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:37.880 look at a lot of like their social media and stuff, and they got 337 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.279 great social media Nick Kools. He does a great job out there, obviously 338 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.319 Matt Baker and what they do and bringing the you know, their team to 339 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.400 their community. But it's all like look at me, look at me, 340 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.200 like I'm you know, I'm incredible, Like like you know, it's just 341 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:53.319 like it's like, might as well be like a hip hop music video every 342 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:56.839 time they get on. It's just you don't really see a lot of that 343 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:00.480 in other markets. And while they are definitely, you know, a flashy 344 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.720 team and a top end talented team, you you I question just some of 345 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:08.319 that composure and some of that maturity when the game really matters, right, 346 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:11.079 Like, it's great if you can get up on teams and continue to roll 347 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:15.039 and high five. I mean, it's when you face that adversity in game 348 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.440 that I start questioning maybe some of their antics and some of their maturity, 349 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:21.960 and why they haven't been able to be maybe as dominant as many people expect 350 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:25.319 them to be this season. I love Vernon. You know, we've had 351 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:27.119 him on. He lives not far from from me here, you know, 352 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:30.839 in the off season. But I just like, in my head, I 353 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.680 can just picture, like, you know, we're in we're in ig Field 354 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:38.920 here in a couple of months, and we're screaming and it's freezing cold, 355 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.599 and he's just like I can picture that in my head right off him. 356 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:47.240 Just you know, he like I said, when it's rolling, Vernon's great, 357 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:49.920 and Vernon's cool, and everyone loves Vernon, but it is you're riding 358 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.799 that roller coaster and it just kind of depends what day you find him out, 359 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:56.920 if that makes sense. And that's the thing. How many games is 360 00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:59.680 he thrown for like four hundred and something yards and lost? You know what? 361 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:02.640 I mean, that's like they have an ability they have that's the thing. 362 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:04.440 They have, the talent that if they get down in games, that 363 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.119 they can claw their way back. They've proven a few times this year they 364 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:11.119 haven't been been able to get quite over the edge of big deficits. But 365 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.559 just the fact that they put themselves in games where they look nowhere near competing 366 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.759 through the first two quarters is a testament to their talent. I you know, 367 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.400 it is interesting. I think it's one of those those things too. 368 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.279 With the with the Lions is that they have a lot of people that want 369 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.440 the ball right into and some and Winnipeg has the same problem, right they 370 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:33.160 have guys. When you have guys like Dalton shown, Kenny Lowell or you 371 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.960 know, Nick Demski, Brady Olivera, you know, even guys like Rashid 372 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.160 Bailey and Drew Wiltarski. I mean, there's a lot of targets to go 373 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.079 around, a lot of places to go around. But each and every game, 374 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:47.200 regardless of how many catches a guy got or if a touch on, 375 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:48.680 it's always been about the team. You know. It's not even one of 376 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.119 those things where you go in the locker room you can kind of see someone 377 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.319 quietly seething or upset and stuff like that. It's just it just doesn't exist 378 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:59.359 because at the end of the day, what matters is is winning. And 379 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:03.240 I mean, as obvious and as cliche as that sounds, it's those teams 380 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:04.839 that are able to kind of put that in there, you know, the 381 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:10.480 top of their priority and not talk about individual stats. Individual stats will come 382 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:12.119 with Winnie, And I think that's the thing the Bombers have been able to 383 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.960 do is and latch onto and be successful by is that understanding that Well, 384 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.480 it might be Kenny Lawler's week one week, it might be Nick Dempski's week. 385 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:22.240 The next week, it might be Nick Demski was the one he got 386 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.920 one target for eight yards last game, you know, but he but he 387 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.960 led the team with one hundred and twenty yards in the Labor Day Classic laws. 388 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.319 Like you know, it's just going to be different week to week. 389 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.799 And I think that that maturity and that continuity and that leadership group that you 390 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.519 know, you mentioned like Ryan Phillips and some of those guys you know, 391 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:44.079 and then some of the players out there, like you know, they have 392 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:45.960 a lot of leaders, right, they have guys that are leaders. It's 393 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.039 just about getting everybody on board. And I'm not trying to make this a 394 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:52.119 BC Lions have a broken locker room. That's not the case at all. 395 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.799 I just think they have a bit of a different philosophy that one that allows 396 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.599 maybe a few more cracks to come in when it comes when it comes to 397 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.039 those times of adversity in every single game that you play. Yeah, well, 398 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:08.000 I mean, what happened to the dumb that boys? That was someone 399 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:11.160 I gonna screw it up. But it went from the Donut Boys, Oh, 400 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.519 the Donut Boys to the fifty Burgers. Yeah it was the Yeah, 401 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.240 so it was you know, and and I played that up to I love 402 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.759 that. I mean, I love that part of the CFL. I'm not 403 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:23.839 trying to dull the league, right, I'm not trying to have every every 404 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:27.759 team be a one and oh whatever. You want to see personality, and 405 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.960 certainly there's a lot of personality on BC, but maybe some of the times 406 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:34.759 that personality gets in the way a little bit. In terms of Winnipeg here, 407 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:40.160 your team going into Hamilton, they're having a rough season, is probably 408 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.640 be an understatement. And I had said in the pre game our CFL pregame 409 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:45.799 here many many weeks ago, I said, it feels very similar to Aaron 410 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:49.720 Rodgers going into the Jets here. We got believe I going in and both 411 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:55.039 here injuries for older quarterbacks. What do you make Winnipeg coming. I don't 412 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:56.319 know if there's a world where Winnipeg loses this game, But what are you 413 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.039 what are you making of the matchup? You know what I'm with. I 414 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.480 think it's a beat down. Like I think there was a bit of a 415 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:04.079 lesson learned from the Labor Day Classic, and I don't think it was a 416 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:07.000 one week lesson. I think this is you know, them priming down the 417 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:11.799 stretch here and they want to be playing their best football and they want to 418 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.400 be locking up the West. I mean, that's their ticket, right You 419 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.960 talk about BC plays, the comfortable confines of BC plays, and you know, 420 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:22.559 although I'm sure there's some teams I would like to play there versus Calgary 421 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:27.240 Winnipeg outdoors in November, that's the ultimate advantage when it has is their crowd 422 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:30.920 and there, you know, and the fact that they have players have been 423 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.960 around for years and have played with in that cold. So anyways, I 424 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.480 think they're going to be motivated for sure this week it's not forgotten on them. 425 00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.680 Last season they were going, you know, they were riding high and 426 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.039 high and went into Hamilton's last year and Dane Evans had the game of his 427 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:49.519 life. I think he threw five touchdowns. And I've never seen Mike O'Shea 428 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:53.519 that angry after a game, and so I don't think it's lost on them 429 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.240 what they did. I think Hamilton is really Hamilton's should be a much better 430 00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:02.920 team than they are based on their on their roster. They remind me of 431 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:06.640 the twenty seventeen Toronto Argonauts who as you as you know, went on to 432 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.559 win the Great Cup that year. They bought a team in the offseason. 433 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:14.119 They brought all these big names, you know, brought all these big names, 434 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:18.119 managed to keep you know, a lot of their stars brought on Bowlie 435 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:19.799 by Mitchell. I always thought that was a mistake. No offense to bow 436 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.839 but I just felt I was expecting to see him in a TV booth, 437 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:27.400 not behind center this season. But certainly, I think the Bombers are going 438 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:32.960 to be motivated. They gave up a game against the Riders that put them 439 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:37.359 in a position, you know, where they can't really have many more mistakes. 440 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:38.559 As if they want to clinch the West as early as they have the 441 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.799 last couple of seasons. So I see a massively motivated team. And while 442 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:47.559 Taylor Powell has done some some cool things with with with with BOLIVI I out 443 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:49.839 and to be honest with you, man, I think that the quarterbacking with 444 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.519 all the injuries, has been a blessing this season because they were seeing a 445 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.720 lot of young guys. I just don't think that it's going to be the 446 00:26:55.759 --> 00:27:00.960 Taylor Powell led Hamilton tiger Cats that that teach the Bombers another lesson this season. 447 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:03.559 Yeah, what do you make of that? You know, we've had 448 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.000 you know, Crum and he's kind of, you know, it was kind 449 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.599 of high and a little bit of a crash, and Taylor Powell and then 450 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:14.000 obviously you know, Trey Forward is seeing that and we've talked to hell gout 451 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.440 like, do you it feels like it's kind of a new ushering hair. 452 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:19.880 I absolutely love it, And that's exactly what it is. In my opinion. 453 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.039 I think it's a new ushering of the new age quarterbacks. And I 454 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.319 was writing about this during the offseason and certainly leading up to the to Week 455 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.200 one was the CFL has a quarterback problem, you know what I mean, 456 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.920 Like you had guys like Bowlie by Mitchell signing for three years after horrendous two 457 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.200 seasons, like the fact that they thought like and that's kind of the media 458 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.480 and you know, and and hyping up guys and putting them at the top 459 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.559 of their trade, you know, free agent lists and whatnot. I mean, 460 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.759 I know Bo wasn't a free agent. Hamilton went after him and got 461 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:48.759 his rights at the end of the last season, but you know, it 462 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.640 just it looked like they were just recycling, you know. And then Trevor 463 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.000 Harritts goes over to Saskatchewan to save them, and then Cody Fajardo heads over 464 00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:00.640 to Montreal, and then Vernon Adams is back in the see and well, 465 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.160 friend of Adams, I don't necessarily put with the rest of that group. 466 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:04.359 I think he still has a lot to you know, I still think he's 467 00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.759 got a lot in the engine. Is certainly a prolific and entertaining quarterback. 468 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.200 I just felt like it was just a bit dull. And the reality is 469 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.240 is that without those injuries, the coaches don't make those decisions like the like, 470 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.519 you know, I talked to Craig Dickinson and the labory. I've talked 471 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.119 to other coaches, Jason Moss, like other guys, how about how conservative 472 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.119 head coaches are in giving guys, you know, backups opportunities because at the 473 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:30.240 end of the day, like you ride or die with your quarterback, and 474 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.599 if you're if you're if you're a coach and you're trying to make the playoffs 475 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.119 and keep your job, and you know, if you're in the last year 476 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.200 year contractor and the you know, one more year remaining and you're looking for 477 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.440 an extension, like you need results. So it's it's a it's a gutsy 478 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:47.279 move to go to an inexperienced guy. But here we are in Ottawa. 479 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:52.039 It took it took injury to Jeremiah Massoli, it took Nick Arbuckle to continue 480 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.079 to suck. It took Tyree Adams to tear his ACL and now we got 481 00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.920 dust and Crumb, who well has certainly showed some you know, some mistakes, 482 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.480 an inconsistent season his first year. It's his first season in the CFL. 483 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:04.960 Like this guy hasn't had a ton of time. But you look at 484 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:10.039 the comfort and I say that about Taylor Powell, I say that about Caleb 485 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.759 Evans, who played well with Cody Fajardo out of the lineup. I say 486 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:17.119 that with Jake Dolagala, I say that with Drew Brown and Winnipeg like we 487 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:22.039 now have, Like it's gonna be a fascinating offseason as teams retool and figure 488 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.200 out their their futures. Because you know, I don't think Jeremy Miamisoli comes 489 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.519 back just because of you know, the back to back injuries and just how 490 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.759 difficult it was for him to get back from from his knee injury. I 491 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.640 don't know if he's got the ability to come back from achilles. I wish 492 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:38.400 him the best, and you know, I hope, I you know, 493 00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.039 hope he proves me wrong. But I just don't see it. Trevor Harris 494 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.960 is getting upwards of forty years old, Like you know what I mean, 495 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.160 Like like is he going to be the right answer? Like do you want 496 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.559 to go back to a guy? I know they're really high on him. 497 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.559 I seen him around Mosaic. I mean he's hugging team personnel and whatever they 498 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.240 like when he brings. But is he the right football move to me? 499 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.759 And and and that's to assume that Craig Dickenson and Jeremy Day or even gonna 500 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.400 be in the building next year to even make that decision. So I mean, 501 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.160 they obviously have a commitment to him. In football, you can bail 502 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.079 any time. But that's an interesting one, and you know, so I 503 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.920 think there's gonna be. Whereas at the beginning of the season it looked like 504 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.720 there were too many old retreads from team to team, there now looks like 505 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:22.279 it's an exciting off season of quarterbacks. And I'll be very curious, you 506 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:25.000 know, of the nine teams and who their starters are. Because I like 507 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.440 Jake Mayor two he hasn't had a great game in Calgary. I wouldn't be 508 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:32.319 given up. I wouldn't be given up on him just yet. But at 509 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:33.920 the same time, I you know, I also wouldn't look at his job 510 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:38.200 and say it's all that secure either. Trevor Harris is older than me, 511 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.640 which is insane. The things that I and I very nearly tore something and 512 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.799 then I very nearly tore something in the back of my leg filming the wedding 513 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.200 this year, walking on gravel, So I like God forbid, you know, 514 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.559 I mean, it it happens us last thing before we get out of 515 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.599 here at Edmonton here coming in Saskatchewan. You know, Okay, bouncing back 516 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.000 maybe, but you know, Trey Forward's got a lot of momentum there. 517 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.279 What are you making of that? One? Man? I really like Trey 518 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:04.839 Ford. I just, you know, like, I think it looked like 519 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.720 he learned how to throw last week and add that to his arsenal. So 520 00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.119 i've, you know, I've I think. I mean it's crazy. I 521 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.960 mean, I'm not the first person to say this, and I won't be 522 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.240 the last. I can't believe the Elks, you know, talk about being 523 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:21.839 conservative. You know you went with Taylor Cornelius. Yes, you committed money 524 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.160 to him, but you stayed with him that long because you felt like he 525 00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.680 was your best option and you did. Chris Jones obviously did not want to 526 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:33.079 hand the ball to a Canadian, you know, quarterback who hasn't had a 527 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.400 lot of experience. He didn't want to go down with that ship after already 528 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.440 losing, right and now here we are, He's given this team of fighting 529 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.799 chance to maybe even make the playoffs. So I think they're gonna make the 530 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.960 playoffs. Absolutely not, But I do think they're headed in the right direction. 531 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.720 I think it's it's one of those games where you know both teams are 532 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.839 going to be up. Both teams feel pretty desperate. Like the Riders are 533 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.480 not well, they're comfortably in third place. They lose to Edmonton and all 534 00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.480 of a sudden, it's a little bit more reachable. At the same time, 535 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.680 if if the Riders can, if the Riders can beat the lowly Elks 536 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:07.839 as we've called them all season, they put themselves in a great spot. 537 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.160 They just separate, they continue to separate themselves, and and and so there's 538 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.920 a lot to play for from both sides. But if you're asking me, 539 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:15.720 and you are, I'm going with the Elks this week. I think the 540 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.599 Elks come in, they ride their momentum, they ride their confidence. It's 541 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.480 nothing to lose. They're playing playoff football two weeks ago, so they might 542 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.119 hit fatigued by the end of the regular season if they can do it. 543 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:29.039 But at this point in time, I think they're They're super desperate. And 544 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.359 the way the way that Trey Ford is playing, I just like him a 545 00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:36.400 bit more than than the Jake Delgalla led Riders. Yeah, I mean it 546 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.799 went from Chris Jones needs to be fired and this is you know, how 547 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.720 quick can we get the salary calf on all of this? And now it's 548 00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.559 like many elks actually looked pretty good. So Chris Jones just got to stop 549 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.519 being GM. Yeah, I mean I think he's he's a great talent. 550 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.359 With alluett, I think he's proven to be a bad GM. You know, 551 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.200 he's a good head coach. We could probably do a little less than 552 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.119 the turnover, but you know, players respect them, all players for the 553 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.440 most part. I haven't heard a single guy say they don't like them, 554 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.200 even if they've been cut. But it's it's the too many roles, man, 555 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.960 that's the problem in Edmonton. Well, Jeff, I appreciate it. 556 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.359 You're making the time today with everything going on. We'll see you, I 557 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:16.440 assume here in Hamilton's and we'll see you Winnipeg and INBC what could be exciting, 558 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.599 But we'll see you in November at the minimum. I really appreciate your 559 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.559 time to that. Yeah, I read. Thanks so much, man. 560 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:30.160 It's always a blast hanging out and talking three down football with you. Well, 561 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.319 here we are back. We had this gentleman on during our kickoff. 562 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.400 I believe for the CFL we have Dan Ralph here hopefully we'll be seeing you 563 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.000 back up here in Hamilton in a very short time. How are you doing, 564 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.000 sir? Everything's great, fun time of year. Yeah, well you 565 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.039 said that you like this time of year because everything seems to matter more. 566 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.720 I mean they've told us, you know, games don't matter until after labor. 567 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.240 They what are your thoughts right now? We're walking into the fifteen of 568 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:58.480 the CFL. Yeah, I mean we're starting to see some really interesting trends 569 00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:04.000 now with two t having clinched, and then this weekend the Toronto Argonauts have 570 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.000 an opportunity to clinch first in the East, and then you're gonna have you 571 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.840 know, playoff runs for second, third and the respective divisions, and also 572 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:16.239 you know the potential crossover, which is something we always go through. And 573 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:22.599 then we also see on an individual basis some of the you know, the 574 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:27.920 players separate themselves in the in the respective individual honors races. So yeah, 575 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:30.239 it's it's a fun time. I mean, I'm still figuring out where the 576 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.559 heck the summer went. But then in November I'm going to be sitting there 577 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.760 wondering where the heck the season went, because everything just goes by so fast. 578 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.519 Well, and it seems like to me, it seems to be clicking 579 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.599 a little bit more. I mean, we entered all of this through the 580 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.039 COVID year and then it kind of slows start. I mean it feels like 581 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.079 back on track. There's not there hasn't been a lot of like weird, 582 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.840 controversial or weird, and it seems like it's been a pretty copasetic safe season 583 00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.480 here and growing through. Yeah, so far, you know, it's been 584 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.400 a very we've been able. And I say that because there's talk of a 585 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:07.000 new variant coming into Canada and uh, you know, who knows. Let's 586 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:13.079 let's hope, but yeah, it's been nice to just concentrate on football and 587 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.119 not have to worry about all the other stuff. And you know, crowds 588 00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:22.119 in Hamilton and are solid, it seems, and crowds in Toronto seem to 589 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.280 be on the upswing, which is you know, a nice thing to see 590 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:29.880 as well. So yeah, let's hope it stays that way. I mean, 591 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:34.880 for the sake of the Hamilton Gray Cup festival. Two years ago they 592 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:38.639 had the Gray Cup and couldn't have a normal Gray Cup with all the fan 593 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:44.920 activities because of the pandemic. And so now they're they're hosting the game again 594 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.880 for the second time, and they have, you know, lavish plans for 595 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.840 a terrific festival, and here's hoping that they're allowed to go ahead with it. 596 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:57.800 Yeah, we're I guess supposed to have someone on from the festival here 597 00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.679 soon. They had said to me to kind of promote anything interesting you're hearing 598 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.800 from that. I'll be honest, I haven't really concentrated. I'll concentrate more 599 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.000 on it as we get closer to break cup. That's kind of where I'm 600 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:13.679 at. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's funny. Social media 601 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.159 is the bane of my existence. But everybody and their brothers been you know, 602 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:21.039 all summer touting player A, B, C and d as you know, 603 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:27.400 the front runners for the respective individual awards, and I don't even begin 604 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.199 thinking about it untill now. And I'll be honest, I haven't really seriously 605 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.559 thought about it, and I will as we get closer. But yeah, 606 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.960 I mean, as we get closer to break up, same sort of deal. 607 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.639 I'll start looking at some of the other things and fingers crossed that they're 608 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:45.239 able to they're able to have a normal break up in terms of Toronto here. 609 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.880 Obviously, I think that's one of the more market games this week and 610 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.360 the Friday game going into Montreal. I'll get your thoughts on Montreal separately, 611 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:57.159 but obviously Toronto kind of historic run right now. We had my Cogan on 612 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.280 last week kind of categorizing that what do you make of them? What they've 613 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.400 been able to get together. They've they've been very, very impressive, and 614 00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.440 they're ten and one right now, and I could make the argument they could 615 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.000 ideally be eleven. And oh if if Chad Kelly doesn't get hurt in that 616 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.480 game against Calvary because it was only a seven point to a seven point game 617 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.320 or sorry, a three point game at that point when he left. So 618 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.679 yeah, I mean they're they're really you know, the thing that impresses me 619 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:29.079 the most about them is they're strong on offense, they're strong on defense, 620 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:34.639 and then they've got really good special teams. So if one game, you 621 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.239 know, the defense is allowed thirty plus points, they have an offense that 622 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:43.079 can put up thirty five and sort of you know, hide that and if 623 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:47.480 the offense is struggling, they can win ugly with the defense and a you 624 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:52.159 know, in a timely return from Javon Leake, who's who has a club 625 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.000 record four print return touchdowns this year. So I just think they can beat 626 00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.360 you so many ways. And if all three, you know, all three 627 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.519 phases haven't clicked at the same time, to me, that that proposition is 628 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:08.119 a little scary about what damage they can do if all three phases of their 629 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:14.400 game are clicking simultaneously. But they've got you know, they've got three elements 630 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.760 to their attack that are very, very potent, and now at any given 631 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:22.440 time, one of those three can take over a game. Not looking too 632 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.199 far ahead like we said, but you know, Gray Cup here, you 633 00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.920 know, presumed a favorite in the East, and I want to get your 634 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.239 thoughts on Montreal, but you know, last year we were there and that 635 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:32.280 you know, it felt to me like an upset that Toronto. You know, 636 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.079 Toronto comes in and you know, all this stuff with McLeod and Jack 637 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.679 Kelly and everything, like a very different just opinion of this team going into 638 00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:43.480 the you know, kind of the end end game of the season. That 639 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:47.760 that means. Yeah, well it's funny Winnipeg and Toronto meet later on down 640 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.119 the stretch and that's the game that I'm really looking forward to because it could 641 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.960 be another Gray Cup preview and at the beginning of the year, I really 642 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.480 said I wouldn't be surprised if those two teams made it again, and I 643 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:07.360 fully expect, you know, I'll reiterate, I fully expect to Winnipeg Toronto 644 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.280 break up again in twenty twenty three. I mean, I'm sure the BC 645 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.079 Lions in Montreal Alo Wets will have something to say about that, and and 646 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.960 we'll see where they are, where both teams are in terms of injuries. 647 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.800 But right now, I don't think there's a doubt in my mind that they're 648 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.280 the top two teams. And you know, I fully expect to see them 649 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.519 in November. And that's the thing, you know, we we talked. 650 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.440 We do our Monday recaps right now, and we can't figure out, like 651 00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:35.360 are Montreal Outletts second in the East? Like are they a good team? 652 00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.119 All right? What do you think I think? Well, I will say 653 00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.840 this, I think, I mean, they've lost three straight and so three 654 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.199 weeks ago, I was marveling at the job that Jason Moss had done with 655 00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:50.719 that team. And I still think, if you know they're to me, 656 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.079 they're the second best team in the East. There's I don't think I don't 657 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:59.079 think there's a doubt and and I like the way they match up against Toronto. 658 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.400 It's just that they never been able to to put it together. I 659 00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.519 mean last week, you know, they got beat thirty nine ten. They 660 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:10.360 had four turnovers, some really costly penalties, not the least of which was 661 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.880 Austin Mack being ejected for his involvement in the melee in the first quarter, 662 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:22.280 which took away their biggest playmaker. So I still am waiting for the Alouettes, 663 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:27.000 like Toronto, to put it all together. They hold the promise to 664 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.199 me of being a very very good football team. I mean, they've taken 665 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.239 care of business in the East Division. The only team that they've lost to 666 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:37.360 so far is Toronto. So I mean, to me, they're they're the 667 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:43.440 number two team. But until they start beating a Winnipeg or a Toronto and 668 00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:47.679 or maybe even a BC, then I think they're in that that second tier. 669 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.239 And but to me, they're they're they're a bona fide playoff team and 670 00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.519 they're a team that if Toronto plays in the East Final, they'll they'll be 671 00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:02.199 prepared because that team, you know, is made to be successful in cold 672 00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:07.159 weather with his ability to run football. It's just funny we talk, you 673 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.760 know, like Montreal is really good unless they have to play BC when they're 674 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:13.400 Beeg or Toronto. It's yeah, that's what I mean. There's there's that 675 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.159 second tier, right, we're the best of the tier two. We've seen 676 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:22.719 Cody, you know, obviously from Saskatchewan go over. We had him back 677 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.880 on the show a couple weeks ago and he you know, was heard and 678 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:28.519 then came back and kill them Evans and there was you know, it was 679 00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:30.039 like the short week and he came back and then he had a whole week 680 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.920 and they still lost. Like in terms of Cody with this team, is 681 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.079 he's still a boni fire kind of superstar here? Like what do you make 682 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.599 of his presence in the CFL. Well, I still think he's a good 683 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:49.280 starter. But I mean, and I think maybe it could make the argument 684 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.199 that sometimes he holds onto the ball way too long because he had a problem 685 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:58.320 with sacks last year with Saskatchewan and Montreal has a problem giving up sax again 686 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:02.039 this year. And you know, what's the what's the common denominator there? 687 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:07.599 And in both instances it's Cody and and and sometimes you know, he's either 688 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.280 got to get rid of the ball and settle for what he can get, 689 00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:15.440 or take what the defense is giving, or throw it away. And you 690 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.800 know, I just and you know, if the more hits he takes, 691 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.519 the more appt he is to get hurt. And if he gets hurt, 692 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.880 then I think they're not as good a team without him as they are with 693 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.760 him. So I still think he's a decent cful starter. I think he's 694 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:37.360 a bona fide cful starter. But sometimes you know the best option is to 695 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:42.960 live to play another down rather than go for the whole inch Alada. But 696 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:45.599 having said that, if I had Austin mac as a receiver, maybe I 697 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.639 would hold onto the ball too. It's as hard like I think, you 698 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.000 know, obviously we were expecting a lot kind of this year with him moving 699 00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.280 in and there was all the drama with the Scotchwan. I don't know. 700 00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.119 I mean, I like the outlett player, I said second in the East, 701 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.280 like there's something wrong there where it feels like we're walking into this East 702 00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:07.159 final buzz saw regardless. Yeah, I agree, I mean I think there's 703 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.159 the I think they're, you know, among the better teams in the East. 704 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.719 We'll see this weekend, you know, I mean, even if they 705 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:19.199 beat Toronto. Toronto's won the season series, so I would still expect Toronto 706 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.440 to be to be the favorite at home in November, especially given that the 707 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.679 Argos can run the ball too. The Artgos have you a running quarterback. 708 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:34.159 Alouettes have a semi you know, semi mobile quarterback. So I yeah, 709 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.280 I would I would like that matchup. But I would still take Toronto nine 710 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:42.079 times out of ten. In terms of East teams here Hamilton, you know, 711 00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:44.760 kind of on live support, and I wanted to talk Ottawa as well, 712 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.400 but you know, coming in and they eat out the win in Ottawa 713 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.800 last week. I talk about expectations for the season, kind of just following 714 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:53.760 apart here and you know, we still I guess, I guess be Levi 715 00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.480 as you waiting in the wings or whatever, But what have you made of 716 00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.079 this is the whole experiment this year? Very I meaniative kind of the New 717 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.760 York Jets here with Aaron Rodgers and injuries. Well, in a perfect world, 718 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:07.280 I would have said, and I wrote it yesterday. In a perfect 719 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.239 world, Taylor Powell would have been given in the opportunity to watch from the 720 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:17.199 sidelines and see how bo Levi and Matt Schultz played the game and adjust slowly 721 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.480 to the nuances of Canadian football. Instead, injuries have sort of thrust him 722 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:24.760 into the limelight. And I mean, the kid has done well, you 723 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:30.320 know, considering he's a he's a bona fide rookie, considering he's never played 724 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.719 Canadian football before coming up here, and you know, and he showed me 725 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.360 some moxie last week, where in fact, that whole team did where you 726 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:42.000 know, they were coming off you know, they're they're playing their second game 727 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.800 in four days and they beat an Ottawa team that was coming off of bye. 728 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.920 So I mean, you know, I think that the one thing Hamilton 729 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.280 has shown this year's resiliency. And you know, they go into BC and 730 00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:58.639 get a big win against the Lions when me and others did not see it 731 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:01.679 coming. And you know, they go in on four days notice, play 732 00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.639 a team that's more arrested, and you know they eco to win. So 733 00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:13.119 I mean, they've been resilient. You know, I think I don't see 734 00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:19.000 them finishing second. I see them at best finishing third and h and having 735 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.360 to go on the road in the playoffs. So I do see them as 736 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:27.559 there's the number three team in the East there's no doubt there. You know, 737 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.679 you talk resilient like, because there's been calls you know for like more 738 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:36.760 even more staffing changes than they've had in Hamilton's and you know it's really last 739 00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:38.280 year was kind of a failure and you know, coming off of the Gray 740 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:43.000 Cup and you know, appearance and everything like, I just don't know really 741 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.159 went to make there. I mean, obviously they made the big swing this 742 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:46.920 year. I don't know. It's kind of like with Ottawa. You know, 743 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.400 what is bob Dy's supposed to do and mis Holly and everything, and 744 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.840 we'll get to them, but you know, the Hamilton has been dealt to 745 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:57.880 really difficult hand here. Yeah, I mean they put all the leggs and 746 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.239 to me, they put their eggs in the bow league basket and uh, 747 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:07.800 you know, and unfortunately he's been hurt twice and that's not really you know, 748 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.920 and that's really a big blow when your number one quarterback plays you know, 749 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.719 let's say three or three games of your of your twelve so far, 750 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:20.960 and your number two has been hurt most of the year and you're starting a 751 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.559 bona fide CFL rookie at quarterback and so yeah, I you know, I 752 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.360 think, like I said, they've been resilient. And you know, I 753 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.280 like Tommy Condell as a person, I like him as an offensive coordinator, 754 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.920 but obviously they had to make a change. They're there, and I like, 755 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:45.079 you know, the the promotion of Scott Milanovitch to play to play caller. 756 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:51.039 He's got, you know, a good CFL coaching pedigree, He's handled 757 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:55.000 offenses, he's won Gray Cups. He's you know, he's he's to me, 758 00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:00.679 I think he's he's certainly going to step in and give them experience and 759 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:05.639 a good base from which to call players. It's just you know, you 760 00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.519 just hope that he can, you know, he can turn that offense around. 761 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.599 And the problem I see with the Tie Cats is their offensive line. 762 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:19.440 I mean Ed figure Row, who are you know who was a big addition. 763 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:23.000 Figerow was a big addition to them in the off season and unfortunately he's 764 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.880 been hurt most most of the year. And you know, there's you know, 765 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:32.320 they've had some issues establishing the run now of late James Butler has has 766 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.119 really done well. And uh but you know, they lost you know, 767 00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.599 they lost some some key components in the off season and you know, we'll 768 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:46.000 see we'll see. I mean, you got a rookie quarterback and we'll see. 769 00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:50.400 Let's just leave it. Well, I mean Butler has kind of been 770 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.320 a revelation there, and I mean there really is a lot sometimes the only 771 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.719 thing that seems like they can do on offense sometimes that yeah they like and 772 00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.559 you hear you know, the commentators, and while they're trying to get away 773 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.400 from you try to establish the run game and you'll get away from maybe I 774 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:06.519 guess the old Jean Jones stuff up there and be a little bit more offensive 775 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:07.840 that way. It just doesn't real likely have much of an identity. And 776 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.320 I think they had obviously, like you said, a lot wrapped into we're 777 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.480 going to bring in moo Levi and have this superstar quarterback and it all kind 778 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.719 of falls apart. Yeah, I like the addition of Butler in the offseason. 779 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.239 I thought he was a really really solid player with BC last year, 780 00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:29.920 and he showed against his former team that he can be a dominant running back. 781 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.320 And you know, it's funny, Hamilton hasn't had a one thousand yard 782 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.760 receiver or a thousand yard rusher since something like two or nine, two ten, 783 00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:42.639 And I think this guy gave them a bona five thousand yard rusher, 784 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.639 and I think he will hit one thousand yards on the ground, which is 785 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:50.760 something they haven't had in a long long time. In terms of the Ottawa 786 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.559 team, kind of this was a must win really with Hamilton coming in, 787 00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:57.719 and what do you attribute that too? I mean, we had this little 788 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.920 sugar rush of the dust and crime and then it's all fallen apart. Now, 789 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:05.760 yeah, you know, I mean I like the dust and crumb story. 790 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.880 And I think what he's done is he has at least kept that team 791 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.599 in games, you know. I mean they've lost I think five or six 792 00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:15.880 in a row, but take a look they you know, they haven't been 793 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:20.639 blown out at all. If if they have been, it hasn't been often. 794 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.320 He keeps them in the game. But I think the thing that that 795 00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:29.039 I keep coming back to is that I really don't see I haven't seen a 796 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.320 really consistent passing game from him. He runs, he runs well, He's 797 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:36.519 as good a running quarterback as you're going to find it. I think he 798 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.760 anchors a pretty good ground game. But the thing is they get behind and 799 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.280 you know, and I think they show, they show their awards when they 800 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.840 can't, you know, throw the ball consistently to come back. And last 801 00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.239 week, this is the one thing that I drew from it. Nate Bahar, 802 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:59.719 They're Canadian receiver, early last week, went on record and called the 803 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.599 te cast dirty on defense. They said that they you know that they played 804 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.119 dirty and made that insinuation. And I really, you know what, I 805 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:13.239 really questioned a the timing and be the logic of that. Because he was 806 00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.199 playing a team that was coming off such a very short turnaround. Why would 807 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:23.280 you give them incentive to win and more incentive to win, especially after a 808 00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:30.159 very physical loss against Toronto? And to me, I really I thought that 809 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.599 that could come back and bite him and them, and it did because Hamilton, 810 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.519 to me, played inspired football, kept it close and then found a 811 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:43.320 way at the end to go ahead and to take the win. And to 812 00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:50.400 me, you don't give your opponent more incentive to come into your stadium and 813 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.800 deal your playoff aspirations a severe blow. That's interesting. I missed that story 814 00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:57.599 this week. I must not have seen that with it. Yeah, it 815 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.559 was it was Tuesday. Tim Ban's the ottowas Son did a nice job of 816 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:06.440 writing it, and uh, you know, I I just I questioned the 817 00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:10.440 logic of Bihar. You know, if you believe that and if you think 818 00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:15.559 that, that's one thing. But to me, you keep it quiet because 819 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.800 you don't you know that goes out there and that that to me is prime 820 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:24.519 bolton board material. And you don't want to give an opponent that's that's hurting 821 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:29.760 and as tired, you know, the the extra incentive to rise above that 822 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:31.639 adversity. I like that. I like that, a little bit of locker 823 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:36.199 room and drave I like that. I like that. As a reporter, 824 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.079 I looked at I went, oh, Tim, you dode go go with 825 00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:44.800 it, Go with it. In terms of Ottaway, you know, it's 826 00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.280 like to be back to back years now and we have the Azzoli's have last 827 00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:51.360 year and obviously again this year, and I don't know, you know, 828 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:53.960 obviously we got rid of Lappa last year and Bob Dice comes in and now 829 00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:58.360 he's got all this and deal like, I don't know who, you know, 830 00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:00.679 who would maybe write the ship better in this situation, Like what do 831 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:05.199 you what does Ottaway do next year? Because obviously this season is kind of 832 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.119 a watch. How do you how do they rebound? Well that's a really 833 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:13.320 good question, and I think a healthy Jeremiah Moz only might help because I 834 00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.320 mean, you know, in close games, you've got a guy who's been 835 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:20.760 there, done that. Now having said that, he's missed two straight years 836 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.920 with season ending injuries and and he's getting older. But I mean, I 837 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:29.679 don't I don't bet against that guy. He has shown time and time again, 838 00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.159 in my humble opinion, that he can overcome, and he can He'll 839 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:36.920 be back on the field in twenty twenty four. I think that's a starting 840 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.199 point. If he's healthy. He is, he's a very very good quarterback. 841 00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:45.320 I think Dustin Crum becomes your number two and he's benefited from from all 842 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.280 this, all this, you know, being thrown into the limelight. And 843 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:55.119 you know, I just I like their defense. I just wonder sometimes if 844 00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.920 that defense is just getting beat into submission and as on the field way too 845 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:05.800 much. And you know, and and Ottawa seems to they don't lose games 846 00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.559 as much as they run out of time, right, and so they're in 847 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:14.440 it. I've sat there and I've seen multiple games now where Crumb has put 848 00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:19.360 the team on us back in the fourth quarter and either forced overtime and won 849 00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:23.400 there or come close to, you know, to forcing overtime or securing the 850 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:28.639 win, and I think, you know, the more experience he gets that 851 00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:32.039 that helps him. But you know, let's let's not forget he is there 852 00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.440 arguably their third or their fourth quarterback on the depth chart when they started the 853 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.440 season. So you know, the fact that he's starting suggests that there's there's 854 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:45.760 been problems at that position. We I think it was earlier in the season 855 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.079 we had Nailer on and talking about how the secondary, the backup quarterback situation 856 00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.599 in most teams in the CFL now is kind of involved to just be in 857 00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:57.960 the short yardage person, right, there's not a lot of learning there. 858 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.800 And we've seen so much this season all these quarterbacks, like you said, 859 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.960 Taylor Powell kind of being thrown in and Dustin crumt Obviously injuries you know, 860 00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.599 have occurred. To make that half of it. You just swished there was 861 00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.119 a way for some of these guys because I've just heard for years, oh, 862 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.960 you know, it takes three years to really learn the CFL game, 863 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:15.760 and it's you know, you can't just come in and there was some way, 864 00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.480 you know, We've we've talked to Vassie. You want to have a 865 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.119 quarterback academy like the XFL does where we kind of work with some of these 866 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.719 guys, like something to get these guys more up to speed than just baptizing 867 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.440 with fire here in the middle of the game. Right, Yeah, it 868 00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:32.639 makes you wonder, right, And I'll be honest, I don't know what 869 00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.000 the answer is. I do know, excuse me, a lot of guys 870 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.679 this year, if you've given them the opportunity that they've shone with it. 871 00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:44.639 And I look at trey Ford and Edmonton. Here's a guy who was, 872 00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:49.360 you know, firmly tied to the bench until until hit you know, basically 873 00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.039 else had no choice but to start him, and they're they've they've won all 874 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:57.079 three games with him at quarterback. So and then I look at Saskatchewan. 875 00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.679 I mean, they're on their number three guy too, and don' gallas seems 876 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:05.000 to be playing very very well. So the only team I thought that was 877 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:09.239 really good at the backup position to start the year, the only teams up 878 00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:15.039 for BC with Dane Evans and Hamilton with with Schiltz, and I hold my 879 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:22.159 breath with Toronto because behind behind Chad Kelly there's there's no dearth of CFL experience 880 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:25.519 and and I you know, I mean that kid, to me, has 881 00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:30.679 has been a godsend for the Argos, and if Heaven forbid something happens to 882 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.880 him, they become a vastly different football team. But yeah, you're right, 883 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:37.360 I don't know what the answer is. I really don't, and I 884 00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:42.199 wish I knew, because you know, it seems to be. It seems 885 00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.719 to be if you get past the team's starting quarterback, there's there's a noticeable 886 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:51.800 drop off with the backup guy. Well because even with you know, obviously 887 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:54.719 Tray Forwards, it has had the experience of playing youth sports, right and 888 00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:59.880 where maybe that made they transition a little bit better. Yeah, Della Gallis, 889 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.159 you know, I don't even know where he was born, somewhere somewhere 890 00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:07.239 in America, but uh, you know it's in New York whatever. Anyway, 891 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.360 Yeah, I mean there's something to be said for that where, you 892 00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:13.199 know, and maybe now after this year, maybe next year there'll be a 893 00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.079 dearth of great quarterback played from some of these guys. Because I remember we 894 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:21.239 had Steve simmons on and he said it was right after the crum sanity kind 895 00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:22.639 of thing, and he goes, yeah, it was the most exciting week 896 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.159 end of the CFL a year, but like, I don't know if that 897 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:29.079 was a good thing or a bad big year just kind of had a lot 898 00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.360 of erratic where you know, sometimes the results are there and you know, 899 00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:36.119 it's kind of you're getting your sugar rush and you're not worried about kind of 900 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.079 the long term. Like what does that mean? I don't know, you 901 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.840 know, he and Steve was right, like, I mean, it's always 902 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:45.800 neat when when a young kid comes off the bench and sparks a team to 903 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:50.280 a you know, a thrilling victory, and then the next week the team 904 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:52.840 that they're playing has film on the kid and all of a sudden, he 905 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:58.000 looks he looks rather ordinary, right, So, and that's the thing I 906 00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:00.320 found with Taylor Powell, for example, poll that you know, I mean, 907 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.599 he came on, he did well in his in his first appearance. 908 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:09.679 Then he had you know, some as teams getting more familiar with him than 909 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:13.880 it's harder for him to do the things that he he did well in the 910 00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:19.360 first game. But I mean last week he showed me something with with with 911 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:23.000 his ability to keep on to keep Hamilton's close and then you know, and 912 00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:28.440 then lead them over the top. And you know, three hundred yard performance 913 00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:31.880 for a rookie's always impressive. Well, Dan, I appreciate it making the 914 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:35.840 time today. You know, it should be good games this weekend. We'll 915 00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.719 be up in Hamilton. I'm sure we'll see you there. I'm trying to 916 00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.239 get you on. We'll do our show again. We have our whole crew 917 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:43.679 coming up this year. We have a team. Anything else from you, 918 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:45.480 anything you're looking forward to this week? I'm yeah, I think I said 919 00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:50.679 Ed Figaro when I was meant to talk about Joel Figueroa. I think I 920 00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:54.639 got Ed mixed up with with a baseball pitcher player. Yeah, so it 921 00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.760 was Joel Figaro. But no, you know what I'm looking forward to seeing 922 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:04.440 Toronto is going to be my you know, some Robertson Daniel in their secondary 923 00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.880 and Curly Curly Guitton's junior in the offense when they play Montreal. So you 924 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.679 know, those are two two starters and two big players, and you know, 925 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.719 so they got a little bit of adversity going into Montreal, and uh 926 00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.960 so we'll see I uh, you know, I wonder if clinching this early 927 00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:23.559 is a boon or a or a bad thing for them, because you know, 928 00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:27.840 now all of a sudden. You got, you know what, six 929 00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:32.039 weeks of not meaningless games, but they mean more to your opponents. And 930 00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:37.119 now you're playing, you're playing guys hoping not to not to get them hurt. 931 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:40.039 And so you know, I don't know about being able to you know, 932 00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:44.320 turn around with the light switch. So you know, I'd like to 933 00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:46.800 see them clinch. But then that creates a whole new, you know, 934 00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:52.639 bunch of problems for head coach Ryan Didnwoody. That is interesting because it's kind 935 00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:54.320 of like when the Chiefs do that when they always like they always lock up, 936 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.079 like AFC one seed or whatever, and they got, we're gonna stay 937 00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.360 you always, you know, Rats versus Austin. You know, one week 938 00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:05.760 is fine, like you said, six weeks or whatever is vastly different there. 939 00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:07.280 And I don't know, yeah, do you I mean, just Chack 940 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:10.679 Kelly touched the field for the next month, so and I think he does. 941 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.559 But how much you know? And when? And so do you do 942 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:20.400 you give the backups, you know, the start and the ball will play. 943 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:23.119 And like right now, this this offense seems to be running like a 944 00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:29.119 willow machine. What happens when you take some of the key parts out and 945 00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:30.960 I mean, like I said, I've never been a proponent of offense is 946 00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:35.239 being able to flip the switch. So it's it's a problem, but I 947 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:38.400 think I think Coach Dinwoodie will tell you it's not a bad problem. That's 948 00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:40.679 not a bad problem. That all right, Dannel, I appreciate it. 949 00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:49.360 Stay safe, We'll see you soon. Be well, thank you. Well 950 00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:51.960 here we are. I think I've actually been trying to get you on the 951 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.719 show since last year with Francis and where everyone over at the Montreal Autlettes. 952 00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:57.719 We have a Montacy. Well here, how are you doing, sir? 953 00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:01.480 I'm doing good. How's they by doing? We're good, excited at Montreal, 954 01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:05.199 you know, fan, we're that's our East team here in the CFL. 955 01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.239 You guys have a big game Friday. Francis wanted to make sure. 956 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:13.000 I mentioned at BMX night there's going to be special like get it up discounts 957 01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.760 and things like that. A big game for you guys. How's the team 958 01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.679 looking forward to it? Teams looking really very good. Really, I mean 959 01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.159 we're looking forward to it to see what's gonna happen next. You know, 960 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:24.960 it was pretty embarrassing last game. We are aware of up so you know, 961 01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:28.440 it's excited to go back out there and get a second chance. You 962 01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.760 don't get those two things a lot, play them back to back. In 963 01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:36.239 terms of your life right now with the season, how's everything going for you? 964 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:38.039 It's okay, I can't ask some more. You know, we're in 965 01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:42.599 a We're in a very good position right now as far as football wise go. 966 01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:45.480 You know, you just have to take one game at a time. 967 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.639 You know, we're controlling our destiny right now. In terms of, like 968 01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:52.639 you said, coming off some rough games, how does the how do you 969 01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:54.639 guys, and how does the team kind of you know, the cope we're 970 01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.800 kind of moved through that. How do you process that? You just got 971 01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.760 put on you and what's got go back to work, figure out what went 972 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:04.360 wrong? The only thing you could do it right, I mean, it's 973 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.400 just it was it was embarrassing, like everybody just gotta take that one on 974 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.519 chin and just you know, figure out what went wrong. But just the 975 01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:15.800 game plan and get ready for this week. Embarrassing In what way? How 976 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:17.960 do you view it? This embarrassing? You got blown up because to stop 977 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.920 a nosebleed if we tried to, So it was just one of those things 978 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.519 right there. And I have plenty of those in my in my playing career, 979 01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:28.480 and you know the best way to come back from those is to go 980 01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:32.400 back out there and hit them back with that same thing that they hit us 981 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:37.440 with last week. Try to get them back in terms of, you know, 982 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.800 kind of the scouting report on the Argos tough team, what do you 983 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:44.800 guys view with that, and how do you kind of take it upon yourself 984 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.079 here to kind of be a part of strong defense. I mean, they 985 01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:51.079 will put together team, you know, like they use everybody, and it's 986 01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:53.039 not just one guy is always a key guy on their roster. They use 987 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:58.159 everybody in the receiving corps. All those guys are hawks, all acts to 988 01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:00.039 block at some period of time. Usually you know, you know where your 989 01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:05.000 breakers are coming from, and that's the receivers coming out of there blocking the 990 01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:07.880 d N blocking d tackle use all their receivers to do that stuff. So 991 01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:12.760 it's one of those things right there you could almost like anticipate with a lot 992 01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:16.000 of teams. With this team right here, it very semboled me make mistakes. 993 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:20.000 So you gotta like you have to be on your p's and q's, 994 01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.000 make sure you know where your players are. You know, then when he 995 01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:27.280 has those guys over there all tuned in. So it's one of these things 996 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:29.679 right here. You have to do your job. If you do your job, 997 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.960 you'll be all right. And the weather's how how impressed it has has 998 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.440 the argo has been this year. I mean it's certainly one of the you 999 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.400 know them or Winnipeg one of the top teams. How do you view them? 1000 01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:43.880 Just overall kind of in the CFL, and they won a great cup 1001 01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:45.639 last thing. They retained a lot of their players, right, so you 1002 01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:50.840 know, I mean there was always the big the big if with them already 1003 01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.079 gonna be as good as last year, because you know, with Betha being 1004 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:57.320 gone, you didn't wouldn't think that Chad Kelly will be playing this good. 1005 01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:00.320 But you know here we are right now, and he rarely makes mistakes, 1006 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:04.880 I mean a guy. And their offensive line is pretty good too as well. 1007 01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:09.039 What they lead the league and least amount of sex by by quite a 1008 01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:13.480 big margin. So it's one of those things right there. We keep looking, 1009 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.480 you're looking and looking like man, you know you have a chance to 1010 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.639 get back. They actually caught something, but guy always seem somebody to get 1011 01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.079 rid of the ball so fast. All right, Yeah, scouting report on 1012 01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:28.079 Chad. Like you said, coming off last year, I didn't really know 1013 01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.920 what to expect. How do you kind of process that and to kind of 1014 01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:37.280 internalize what you need to do? You processed like you know, like you 1015 01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.559 know, you have to what you see, what you see every week, 1016 01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:43.559 right, you know, they have just go off what you see at the 1017 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:46.480 moment. But now he's put it together enough games right now we're actually looking 1018 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:50.719 like you know, have like a decent report on him. He's just sav 1019 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.960 a guy. You know, he actually played. It's not a lot of 1020 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:58.039 young guys you actually say that could play. Though. You know, you've 1021 01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:00.880 been a part of the CFL for a really long time. What is it 1022 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.000 you know about the league? About everything that kind of keeps you motivated, 1023 01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.519 It keeps you coming back because I mean you've been years now. Yeah, 1024 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:12.119 you know, as a competition man, it's heavy year. It changes. 1025 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:15.239 No I'm a I'm a I'm a competitor, So I want to go out 1026 01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.360 there. I want to smash them heads. You know. It's just this 1027 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:21.800 is one of those things and especially at the position I play, I can't 1028 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:28.239 I can't necessarily avoid context. So so yeah, I knew you were getting 1029 01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:30.840 work done here when we were calling trying to set up by how is the 1030 01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:33.719 body feeling? How's everything going? A body's good. Just routine maintenance. 1031 01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:39.000 That's all I take care of myself. So that's not you. That's that's 1032 01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:42.440 actually the key writer to keep playing for so long. You gotta take care 1033 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.559 of yourself. What do you what do you do to take care of yourself? 1034 01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:50.800 What's your routine? Get up? You know if I need a dry 1035 01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:54.960 needle and I feel like I need dry needle and just keep my muscles loose. 1036 01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:58.039 If I had to go get a massage, to get one at least 1037 01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:00.320 one a week, so you know, you got you buying nice and lose. 1038 01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:03.719 They all make sure you're not all stiff, and you know that's how 1039 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:09.239 you got's how you get them getting hurt. In terms of kind of the 1040 01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:13.239 home and home here is you're you're they're playing at BAM last week. What's 1041 01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.559 it like going in there? I mean, obviously, you know it's kind 1042 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.320 of been a joke for a couple of years here argos and attendance, but 1043 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:21.599 the team's doing good that yal fan base. What's it like going in there? 1044 01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:26.800 Yas, that's a little different but you gotta create that own atmosphere for 1045 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.199 your own self, right. I mean if a team, you know, 1046 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.920 if they don't have anybody at the stay, and that's okay, your own 1047 01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:36.320 Ye, that's you gotta make it home, you know, you gotta make 1048 01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:40.239 you gotta make your own atmosphere. You gotta come bring out your own excitement, 1049 01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:44.320 your own energy on the sidelines. I mean, ye, that fairly 1050 01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:47.039 decent crowd out there last when we were there just now, so you know, 1051 01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:51.320 that's that's good. You know here in Montreal, we always have a 1052 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:55.559 sold out crowd in this place. It's always better. Well, yeah, 1053 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:58.400 so I was gonna ask, so obviously you know this week and if they 1054 01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:02.000 sent over, it's gonna be the BMX as student tickets at twenty dollars bureau 1055 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:05.320 be sold at five dollars. Talk about yeah, just that, you know, 1056 01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:09.320 because you guys do have a very loyal fan base, very loud. 1057 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:11.639 We've got the you know, the horns and everything else there. What do 1058 01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.599 you make of the Montreal home crop. It's very loud, man, that's 1059 01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.119 all. You know. It's it's one of those rare sights in the in 1060 01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:21.559 the CFL where you don't see a lot of packed out savum. You know, 1061 01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:26.360 they love their football over here in Quebec, so it's always nice that 1062 01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:30.679 you're playing at home. Do you enjoy that the camaraderie of the kind of 1063 01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.840 the CFL with the fan base, and then you know it's a smaller league, 1064 01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:38.079 it's more intimate, right, It feels like the fans have a greater 1065 01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:41.400 connection to the players and kind of access, if that makes sense. Oh 1066 01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:44.760 yeah, absolutely, I mean I was exposed to that the whole time I 1067 01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.800 was out West, right, I mean this own league, protrusional league in 1068 01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:51.159 the world really where everybody is just saying, you know, fans are so 1069 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:57.119 close and all interconnected. You get as close as you want, you know, 1070 01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.119 you could you could get to know, you know, people outside out 1071 01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.239 of the outside of like the organization. You have to just be around the 1072 01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:06.519 same players over and over and over. Like my some of my better friends 1073 01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:12.639 and Alberta, I met them through me own fans regularly, just foreign fans, 1074 01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:16.079 and to this day it's still my friends. In terms of Montreal, 1075 01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:19.480 this year, a lot of excitement, right, Cody coming in and ownership 1076 01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:24.800 and it just seems to kind of revitalization here on the East. Have you 1077 01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:28.199 felt that and how do you kind of how does the team kind of internalize 1078 01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:31.559 that where where's still going? You know, and it's just like a one 1079 01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.480 of those things that you know where you know, Cody came in, you 1080 01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:38.440 know he's Cody is a good leader. You know, I came in. 1081 01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:41.119 You know, he told us, you know, we're gonna we're gonna go 1082 01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:43.599 through some ups and downs, but you know, at the end of the 1083 01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:45.599 day, as long as we all got out each other back, you know, 1084 01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.039 we'll be all right. Do you feel like he's kind of the locker 1085 01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:53.000 room leader right now? Oh? Yeah, absolutely. Quarterback one, there's 1086 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:56.760 a quarterback, you are naturally supposed to be a leader, right, you 1087 01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:00.800 know, he's embraced that role with us. And yeah, whatether bet on 1088 01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:02.760 defense? Who kind of leads it is that you kind of been with more 1089 01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:06.559 experience, who kind of leads to the defensive side. Everybody has their own 1090 01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:10.280 saying it, you know, like, well we have a whole entire team. 1091 01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:13.920 If it was the whole entire team has their own own opinion, and 1092 01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:15.520 you know, if you have something to share and share it, you know, 1093 01:08:15.600 --> 01:08:17.920 because everybody at the end of the day as a leader on the team, 1094 01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:20.840 right you know, if you have your own mail, some guys might 1095 01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:24.800 say more than most. But at the same point to anybody as they has 1096 01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:28.479 an opinion, like because we gotta be in this all together. Some of 1097 01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:30.600 the better teams that I've played on, everybody has their own opinions, never 1098 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:34.680 like just one guy. Yeah, so it's all a bunch of leaders on 1099 01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:39.720 the team. When you see Chack Kelly can what you're one of these highest 1100 01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:43.239 contracts, right, highest paid quarterbacks, Does that give you extra incentive to 1101 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.359 kind of make his life more challenging? Shoot, man, your quarterback, 1102 01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:56.199 you already get paid more than the restless if but I guess so. I 1103 01:08:56.359 --> 01:08:59.640 know there was kind of a controversial roughing the pastor call at the end of 1104 01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:02.279 the game last week. Thoughts on that and kind of coming back this week 1105 01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:08.319 and we're getting revenge for everything they told me stay away from those questions with 1106 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:12.560 that one. That's okay, that's okay. Last thing for me. What 1107 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.680 are you hoping, you know, besides to win, what do you want 1108 01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:15.840 to see out of the out of the team, out of the guys this 1109 01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:18.279 weekend? Yeah, I want to say, I want to say, the 1110 01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:21.119 guys come on and you know, get the same energy that we had in 1111 01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:28.159 practice all week. You know, everybody pretty much everybody's dialed and everybody knew 1112 01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:30.439 what they had to do. You know, Coach Thorpe does a great job, 1113 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.720 like you know, make sure you understand what we have to do because 1114 01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.479 last like I said, last week is a bit of a it's a bit 1115 01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:40.680 of a crap shoot. Really, we kind of embarrassed ourselves out there, 1116 01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.560 not kind of, we did embarrass ourselves. So you know, it's excited 1117 01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:46.560 to go back in now. Everybody has like a clear clear vision on what 1118 01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:53.000 exactly what we need to get done this week, so it's exciting. Well, 1119 01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:55.680 it should be good, like I said, BMX night there and cheaper 1120 01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:58.960 student tickets and beer sales and stuff like that. So I hope it's a 1121 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:00.880 pat crowd. I hope you guys get one up on the Argonauts. I 1122 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:09.399 really appreciate your time today, no problem, due, thank you. Well, 1123 01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:12.800 I'm excited. I spent some time with the America's CFL team, the 1124 01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:15.600 BC Lions, their social team down here in Seattle on Monday for the Mariners 1125 01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:17.840 game. We lost, but I think it was a victory here because we 1126 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:20.840 have Matthew Betts here. I've been trying to get you on all season. 1127 01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:24.560 You're a busy guy, having a great season. How are you doing, 1128 01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:30.520 sir? I am fantastic. How are you reading? I'm good reading through 1129 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:34.399 everything. You're really you know, you've always performed well, right in last 1130 01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:38.640 year with BC and even before with Edmonton. Kind of at a different level 1131 01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:45.399 this year. What do you attribute that too? Yeah, I would attribute 1132 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.359 it honestly to the whole group on the D line. To be honest, 1133 01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:54.159 what I tell people every time is when we arrived earlier this year, it 1134 01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:58.680 really felt like it was the continuity of what we did last year. So 1135 01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:02.479 we basically we have the same group from last year, so we're just used 1136 01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:05.720 to work together with Bowman, the D line coach, or the same system. 1137 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:10.760 So I mean it's little things but not having to learn a new system. 1138 01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:15.359 And we really felt it earlier on during training camp where I mean if 1139 01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.640 I was taking it inside Rush, I mean automatically, either Woody or Cherry 1140 01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:23.439 or the guy playing would be just wrapping me already. So it really was 1141 01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:27.439 just like a good flow, go win. We and we know how we 1142 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.640 work together. I think we're a good group with talented players, and we 1143 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:34.479 pride ourselves on just working hard. And you know, we use the word 1144 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:38.800 keep chopping wood all the time, and I think that we want to work 1145 01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:41.960 hard, we want to win, we want to do good individually, but 1146 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.319 ultimately, I mean that's I think the way we work together is really to 1147 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:49.760 keep to our success and ultimately my individual successful front this year. Yeah, 1148 01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:55.520 people are talking about BC and they have for years and the building the defense 1149 01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:58.399 up, but you know, in the same regards as Winnipeg and Toronto, 1150 01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:00.359 you know, kind of a lead defense is do you take pride in that? 1151 01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.199 What do you think about that just being you know, it's it's no 1152 01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:08.359 small feet to kind of do what you guys are doing the season. Yeah. 1153 01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:14.680 Absolutely, I mean defensively obviously, I absolutely. I don't look at 1154 01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:18.199 stats on like how many yards a game we're giving or rushing yard, passing 1155 01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.760 yards or all this all that stuff, but obviously we want to be out 1156 01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:27.039 there and we want to perform. Well, that's for sure. The way 1157 01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:30.520 the season's been going so far, we've got six gamer six games left, 1158 01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.880 but the way we've been playing, with the way VA has been playing on 1159 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.920 offense, I mean, we know that if we play a good game on 1160 01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:40.439 defense, the chances are that will come out with a win with the way 1161 01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:45.520 the way VA has been playing. So it's it's hard. It's a cliche, 1162 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.399 but an eighteen game season is long, so it's hard, but you 1163 01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:51.479 have to take it one day at a time, one week at a time. 1164 01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:56.279 We got out of one Saturday, so it's just to be focused on 1165 01:12:56.399 --> 01:13:00.640 the task ahead, not to see too far ahead, and to be locked 1166 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.760 in. It's sometimes it's hard with the routine and just that they seem to 1167 01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:09.760 be the same over and over again. But I have the privilege to be 1168 01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:13.079 there with the great group on defense on the D line, and we have 1169 01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:15.359 fun together doing it, so it makes it it makes it easier for sure. 1170 01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:20.359 Yeah, playing the Ottawa Big game, you got Dustin Crumb coming in. 1171 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:24.520 He's kind of wildly right. I mean he's known to run and scramble 1172 01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:27.079 and you know, kind of make a movement. What are you looking at 1173 01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:29.760 it? What are you expecting to be able to do on SAT? Or 1174 01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:34.239 Yeah, what's our first time playing Ottawa? I mean Dustin Crumb. Ever 1175 01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:40.880 since he came in as the starting quarterback, I thought, I mean, 1176 01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.159 coming in already he was really really good. Obviously he's athletic, but I 1177 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.399 think he's a smart quarterback and make all the throws, so he's he's definitely 1178 01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:51.239 a legit quarterback. But I mean playing the quarterback position. I mean, 1179 01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:56.920 no, no disrespect to anybody, but it's hard without the experience. So 1180 01:13:57.079 --> 01:14:02.159 obviously I think that if we put him into some more pressure situation, it's 1181 01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:06.920 harder for a younger quarterback. But he's definitely somebody, really really talented. 1182 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.119 I think they might have somebody for the years to come, because I was 1183 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:16.000 really impressed personally with the way he led that offense. Big wins earlier on. 1184 01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:18.760 I mean, they didn't show up in the past couple of weeks, 1185 01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:23.800 but they've been holding up to some close games. And it's the CFL, 1186 01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:28.239 so everybody is talented. So in order to win that game, we really 1187 01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:31.279 need to show up with passion, energy and play a good football game or 1188 01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:35.479 else we won't have the result we want. You're on the field kind of 1189 01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:40.000 a scary person, just in terms of what you're able to do and run 1190 01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.720 it after people. You know here you seem very polite, sauce spoken. 1191 01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:45.920 How do you kind of balance it too? It's interesting, you know, 1192 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:47.279 when you see people on the field and then you talk to them here. 1193 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:54.239 Yeah, I don't know. Honestly, I think I've always been a high 1194 01:14:54.319 --> 01:15:00.119 competitor growing up, played a lot of sports, was a very very or 1195 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:04.039 losers. So I think that's just what it is. I don't know, 1196 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:09.479 I just k I kind of feel the same way where I like to joke 1197 01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:12.239 around, I like to have fun, but I feel like I'm a more 1198 01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:16.439 poisoned off the field for sure. So yeah, I don't know why, 1199 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:20.039 but it's usually where I am. Where do you find that out of intensity 1200 01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:23.840 when it comes to being on the field, and because even if you're not 1201 01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:27.319 getting at the quarterback, you're affecting the play, you're making the tax, 1202 01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:30.039 Like, how do you how do you keep up that high level of you 1203 01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:32.560 know, intensity, I guess, yeah, honestly, I don't know. 1204 01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:40.520 I think I just it's habits. I've always been running hard to the ball. 1205 01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:43.800 I think that's one of my one of the keys to my success. 1206 01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:46.399 And it's always been like that. I mean growing up in high school. 1207 01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:53.159 While playing in high school, our defensive coordinator during our our team's period or 1208 01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:57.000 defense period, he would always have us running around. He called it pursued 1209 01:15:57.079 --> 01:16:00.760 drill. So we would just get off to our assigned and do a drop 1210 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:02.640 down and run like thirty yards down the field. And I think, I 1211 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.479 don't know. I think I just liked it that way. And I feel 1212 01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:11.319 that if if I don't do if I don't give my give it my all, 1213 01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.479 I'm cheating myself. I'm cheating my my teammates. And I mean, 1214 01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:16.960 I know the work that I put in to be in that situation to be 1215 01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:20.920 able to play with the pro level in the CFL. So I mean, 1216 01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:25.239 if I if I get up early at five in the morning during the winter 1217 01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:29.560 to shovel my car and go go do the all these squads, all these 1218 01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:31.920 split squats and everything, and when you go to practice and you go to 1219 01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.800 game time, you don't give it your all. I mean, it's kind 1220 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:39.520 of counterproductive. So I think it's just I take pride to what I do, 1221 01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:43.399 and I genuinely feel that if I give it my all, I give 1222 01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:45.439 my team the best shot to win the game. Do you get good? 1223 01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:49.319 What does it feel when you make a big play and you know the other 1224 01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:53.880 guys or are they congratulating you? I mean, what's kind of that vibe? 1225 01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:55.840 Like with the defense? You know, they call you guys, the 1226 01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:59.439 Donut Boys and kind of like a lot of hoop while around the defense is 1227 01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:03.880 yere for b Yeah, honestly, I've I've been celebrating more in the past. 1228 01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:09.159 I think I just I'm locked in. Man. Sometimes I'm not that 1229 01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:13.760 good with celebrating big plays, either with my teammates or myself. I mean 1230 01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:15.760 I remember a couple of times. I mean our first game this year, 1231 01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:19.319 Bolacambo had a sack against Calgary, and I mean, honestly, I was 1232 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:23.159 just too tired to go high five him or whatever. And what's something I 1233 01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:25.600 need to work on a little bit more, even for myself and I do 1234 01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:29.520 a big play, sometimes I just go back to the huddle or you'll see 1235 01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:32.000 guys do some some crazy stuff. I would like to do it, but 1236 01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:35.319 honestly, I think sometimes I just black out and I forget. I forget 1237 01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:39.359 to do stuff. But yeah, we're having fun for sure. I mean 1238 01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:44.079 the dB crew, our dB crew take care of the celebration more than anything 1239 01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:46.239 else. But we have we have cool stuff. Obviously, Minard does the 1240 01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:50.920 super saying kamihamiha when he when he does a sack. So I wish I 1241 01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:56.479 had a cool celly like that. Unfortunately, I don't. Maybe one day 1242 01:17:56.520 --> 01:18:00.880 it will come. But I mean, for I'm obviously happy people whenever I 1243 01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.920 do a big pay to help to help the team out. Yeah, you 1244 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.119 gotta where you need, Like what was it JJ Watt or t J Watt 1245 01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:09.760 just like the roundhouse kick or something, or he does the high kicker. 1246 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.239 You got to figure out something when you get a big sack and you got 1247 01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:15.199 to do a cart wheel or But the worst thing is I've got some planned 1248 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:19.239 out with a couple of my teammates this year, but it never happened where 1249 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:23.439 we actually pulled it off. So I mean, well, I mean it 1250 01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:26.359 would be nice from here on towards the end of the year if we could 1251 01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:29.520 pull at least one out, that would be pretty cool. Before I let 1252 01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:32.239 you go, you know, it's been a rocky season. I mean really 1253 01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:34.520 good. But I'm a fan, so it's been rocky for me, you 1254 01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:38.640 know, like have some big wins a couple of losses. What's kind of 1255 01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:43.880 the mindset with the team in the locker room right now? Yeah, well, 1256 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.800 obviously the mindset, I mean, we're in a good situation to win 1257 01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:50.479 the playoffs. Obviously we want to we want to be in the best place 1258 01:18:50.600 --> 01:18:54.880 possible in the rankings towards the end of the year. But for me, 1259 01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:57.760 it's really to focus on Ottawa. I mean, we want to win us 1260 01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:01.439 most as possible to those last six games. But for me, if you 1261 01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:04.600 see too far ahead, that's where you're that's where you're wrong. So right 1262 01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:09.439 now, for me, it's to be able to to do our best on 1263 01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:11.800 Saturday, to be able to have the best game as possible. And I 1264 01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:15.560 truly believe that if we do that and weekend and week out, that's world 1265 01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:20.880 have success. Curious I have on the same show I have. He plays 1266 01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:26.600 for Manta now Almando Seawell on the show another kind of all star defensive person. 1267 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:30.000 Just curious your thoughts on him and just I just ended up happening this 1268 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:33.039 week where we kind of have to two defensive superstars on the show. Yeah, 1269 01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.880 well, Mando was. I played with Mondo my first year in Edmonton. 1270 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:43.720 Actually he was actually either the first person or one of the very first 1271 01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:48.039 person to talk to me whenever I got there in Edmonton. So obviously it's 1272 01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:51.640 cool to see him still doing what he does after I don't know, ten 1273 01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:57.119 to twelve years in the CFL, and I mean, Mondo, he's a 1274 01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:01.640 I don't want to see a CFL staple, but I mean sometimes will compare 1275 01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:05.279 other players to him. Just I mean, he has some signature moves, 1276 01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:09.439 like his hunt move. The way he does it, I mean it's really 1277 01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:15.960 impressive. So he's he's a guy that obviously is still really good. But 1278 01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:19.319 I mean the way he plays and the way he makes plays it's it's I 1279 01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:25.359 mean, it's it's a sometimes it's signature Mondo moves. So obviously cheering for 1280 01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:30.319 him whenever he's he's playing against other teams. Actually, Montreal had a bunch 1281 01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:32.439 of other players that used to play for Endonton. They had Mike Moore a 1282 01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:35.159 couple of years ago. Usher was there earlier this year, and now he's 1283 01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:41.720 with us. So yeah, But obviously Mondo is a guy that I was 1284 01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:45.359 close to an Endington. We still talk every now and then when we play 1285 01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:50.600 against each other, so I'm always happy when when he does well. So 1286 01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:53.800 yeah, I want to talk to him after a last game in Montreal. 1287 01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.960 So yeah, I'm really happy for him, that's for sure. Well, 1288 01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:00.399 I'm excited here finally getting you on. Like I said, I call the 1289 01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.479 BC Lions America's CFL team and you're representing you know, French candidates. We've 1290 01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:06.720 kind of got all of North America covered here, so I wish you luck. 1291 01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:11.319 I hope it's a good game and that you guys can really kind of 1292 01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:14.560 entertain the BC home fans. Are you excited to be back home here and 1293 01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.000 kind of get BC plays rocking? Yeah, honestly, it's always a really 1294 01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:21.800 really fun time when whenever we played BC plays. I think it's because of 1295 01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:27.600 the dome, but it'll always get super loud, and the marketing team here 1296 01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:31.159 does an incredible job with everything around BC plays with the Lions, So I 1297 01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:35.319 mean, I've always liked it to play here. But I mean even fans 1298 01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:40.960 that have been following the team for the past ten or so years, I 1299 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:45.439 mean, they really see an improvement in the game they experience, either it's 1300 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:47.560 on during TV time out or whatever. I mean, the marketing team that 1301 01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:53.239 just does a tremendous job with the show. So I mean the fans are 1302 01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:57.199 the fans are taking I mean, making the most of it, but the 1303 01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:00.640 players obviously we enjoy it a lot. So it's really we're looking forward for 1304 01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:03.359 Saturday. Well, thanks for making time. I appreciate it. Go enjoy 1305 01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:06.159 some Thursday night football here and I'll be cheering for you this weekend. Good 1306 01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:09.119 luck, awesome, right, well, thank you for reading. Have a 1307 01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:15.199 great day. Really appreciate all of our guests for coming on today. Like 1308 01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:18.359 I said, Jeff Hamilton, Chad morning means a lot him making the time 1309 01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:23.079 to come on. Appreciate Dan, Ralph is always hopping on and the moments 1310 01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:26.079 know this whenever I need him. And then certainly the team's over at the 1311 01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:30.159 Montreal Alouettes and the BC Lions. Francis and Matt super appreciate. That. 1312 01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.600 Should be it for me today, Like I said, exciting weekend, should 1313 01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:36.960 you know. Maybe we'll get some Vegas updates here coming in the next few 1314 01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.760 weeks. I don't know. I've heard kind of mixed reports about that as 1315 01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:44.239 well, so be curious to see where all that winds out. Like I 1316 01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:46.760 said, thanks for checking out today. Please let it subscribe if you enjoy 1317 01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.680 any of this content. Trying to get up to thirty five hundred subscribers. 1318 01:22:50.119 --> 01:22:51.760 Take care, have a good weekend and see someon