1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,879 If there is one thing that really traumatizes me from Dominican society, it is 2 00:00:03,879 --> 00:00:07,839 that people want justice to be relentless with others, but that when it touches 3 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:14,960 them it is as benign as possible and if it is possible, that it 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,399 is nothing, that there is no law enforcement. If the case affects me, 5 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:25,120 it affects a particular one of mine. For some time now we have 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:31,079 been talking about the Dominican Republic and, above all, the media of the 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:37,079 latest cases that have occurred here in the country. Disproportionality and abuse of prison 8 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:46,039 as a coercive measure have been discussed. He' s accused of anything. 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:51,679 Let' s say Elisabet Silverio. Elisabet Silverio is a woman who had a 10 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:57,640 center for the care of minors, with what they call now they are no 11 00:00:57,719 --> 00:00:59,880 longer called autistic children and does not call her. I don' t know 12 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,399 what' s going to happen. No, no, not neurodivergent neuros pods 13 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:11,280 for neurodivergent children. That' s the expression. Now it' s politically 14 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:15,920 correct and they' re sending Elizabeth Silverio six months to me. But because 15 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,239 you have to send a person if they separate me from me for shit. 16 00:01:18,239 --> 00:01:23,799 Thus, when there are seven measures of coversion that establish the code of criminal 17 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,959 procedure that must be applied to this type of person. No, but a 18 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:33,000 mob that understands in pretrial detention an advance of the sentence due to that person, 19 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,959 which is abusive and violent constitutional principle called the presumption of innocence, must 20 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:52,079 be calmed. All people are presumed innocent. They accuse the Aine that seven 21 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,079 hundred million were stolen and in nivereenin they write a novel of twelve zero pages 22 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:59,560 next to bull Son camacho and a group of vague prosecutors in the deep and 23 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:06,000 send almost two years to that man for hayo, besides making life impposibili and 24 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:09,280 all kinds of evils in prison, because they have to be happy to society 25 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:20,879 when they accuse two individuals, in this case in Monte Plata. I don 26 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,280 ' t know what the ARRISPET code is. I' m not a lawyer, 27 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:24,759 because I' d be good with a lawyer. Tell me they' 28 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,039 re in a leather engine. I' m going to tell you no, 29 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:32,759 because this is what they get, because the law applies to the one who 30 00:02:34,439 --> 00:02:36,520 gets used to the excuse of saying they' re not the first thing they 31 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:46,360 do. But Dominican society also has to say that when things are disproportionate, 32 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,800 when things are abusive, it has to be said. These two guys come 33 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:58,199 out on a Witter engine in a Monteplata field. These tigers hear me give 34 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:05,919 me train tigers and two years and twenty- five years, called Leonardo Gómez 35 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:13,159 Morel and Jorge Amado Martínez. They walked in leather on a motorcycle through some 36 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,159 streets of Juan Pablo Duarte Park, the night of a couple of weeks ago 37 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:23,000 in savannah, Grande de Boya and Monte Plata. The first thing that to 38 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,360 arrive a week Big Boyaica arrives to Mount Silver and Mount Silver, that nothing 39 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:30,439 more is okr day away. First and veil, first I reveal. Then 40 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,360 what does the judge do? Well, three months in pre- trial detention 41 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:37,879 for these guys. This is why I don' t know what kind of 42 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:43,080 crimes. They did exhibit, exhibitionism, yes, but that' s why 43 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:47,879 I say I don' t know, because I' m not a lawyer 44 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,039 but it doesn' t seem excessive to that judge and it' s not 45 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:58,240 excessive that this one for this crime, which is a misdemeanor, let' 46 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,560 s say exhibitionisms send a person three months to jail. How much pain h 47 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:03,159 chir was encouraged by the Dominican Republic, but let' s ask ourselves honestly. 48 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:10,520 You think it' s fair that two uprooted people are sent three months 49 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,280 to jail. In Monteplata. It doesn' t seem fair to me. 50 00:04:12,759 --> 00:04:15,160 That doesn' t seem fair to me. That doesn' t seem fair 51 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,199 to me. Here we had in the year two thousand four, two thousand 52 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:25,759 three, about four middle class high- soul pink middle class boys who ran 53 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:31,879 into and walked in Lincoln, up the street down the street And these boys 54 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:38,079 beyond having them in the police palace, no judge touched it and I' 55 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:41,800 m not saying that in this case it doesn' t apply what law commands, 56 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,079 because the law is the law. He said good for everything, but 57 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,639 he doesn' t believe the judge. Or the judge should not think that 58 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:55,600 three months of pretrial detention is excessively abusive, especially when a person is being 59 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,240 charged with an offence that is easy to prove, that he can be sent 60 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,759 to trial and that this person, in that trial, exercises the defense of 61 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,399 what is being charged and that the prosecution does its job and then applies to 62 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:12,639 what the law orders, without prejudicing him, because it is an advanced sentence 63 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,040 that everyone is doing cursed, abusive judges. And you talk about this and 64 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,800 I had a bunch of assholes saying you' re defending what they' re 65 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,920 doing? You' re minimizing what that guy did or didn' t do. 66 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,279 I' m seeing it. As it is, that cannot be treated 67 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:35,879 the same as an attempted rape. Or like a rape of a minor or 68 00:05:35,879 --> 00:05:42,720 an attempted murder, or a murder or murder. It' s just not 69 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:46,639 the same crime. It' s just that the Mardito law criminalizes the crimes. 70 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,959 That' s why, if not all the crimes here had the same 71 00:05:50,079 --> 00:05:56,600 penalty and the same treatment. But now we have the judges book Beu, 72 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,199 because here everyone put you for their like and pass viu and so you can 73 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,279 not. But what do the laws say? That' s the question I 74 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:09,079 ' m asking myself. Not to suppose, because how much is the sentence 75 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,800 that exhibitionism can have, five years in prison and care, what is the 76 00:06:13,879 --> 00:06:16,759 investigation, because it is supposed that and this is how simple people must understand. 77 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:23,720 The measures of coversion are seven, as I understand it, the penalty 78 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:31,120 of sending people is a measure of exception, extremely exceptional. And that' 79 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:38,399 s the norm in a country where 80 percent of the prison population is waiting 80 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,879 to be convicted. And here they send you to the street. He' 81 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,639 s buying redon for jail. He' s down the street cupirredon. And 82 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:54,160 when you defend that, you' re telling the abusive judge, you' 83 00:06:54,199 --> 00:07:01,199 re telling the abusive prosecutor to keep abusing because that' s yours. The 84 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,439 intention behind the measure of coversion is that the subject should not abstain from the 85 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:12,319 process and put ban do mardito uprooted as an eto. Please, two racers 86 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:18,199 to leave have a private day in the huero. They are not going anywhere, 87 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:25,040 nothing that a shackle or periodical presentation or payment of a bond cannot resolve. 88 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:32,920 Not three fucking months to jail, because it' s not doing what 89 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,480 it' s like to reciprocate. What is appropriate is to win applause from 90 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,680 the public, because the judges are mounted in the wave of influence. Everyone 91 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,920 here wants their fucking like and their fucking viu with pleasure to the public who 92 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:51,279 knows nothing about laws that that' s the big deal. And when you 93 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:58,439 explain to people that, in these cases that' s abusive, because when 94 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:05,079 a judge abuses a citizen like this, he' s trespassing or you' 95 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:09,000 re three fucking months, two people who look like a goddamn engine and then 96 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,000 they don' t want that and then they want people to have faith in 97 00:08:13,079 --> 00:08:18,800 justice they can' t have it, because you have some damn lead glove 98 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,480 accusers for those who have nothing and very lax like those who have the means 99 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,800 to solve it like that. You can' t. If you can' 100 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:30,240 t really not, and it' s not that you' re not convicted 101 00:08:30,279 --> 00:08:35,080 of the crime you committed. But three damn months, but why is that 102 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,840 time supposed to be the time taken by the public ministry to investigate, establish 103 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,440 evidence of his accusation, etc, establish witnesses, blah blah blah, blah 104 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:48,279 blah no and bring to justice in very timely and very exceptional cases than those 105 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:52,960 who should be sent to jail. Not here, the world goes three months 106 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,559 for you, three months for Monteplata prison, three months for victory. Three 107 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,919 months for vega jails, three months for rafal. It' s just that 108 00:09:01,039 --> 00:09:03,960 here all damn three months how big you get three months, but it lasts 109 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,279 longer. A tripe lasted three months, two years, two years. That 110 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:11,639 ' s right. That' s because the leaf where I was in jail 111 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,080 was lost. Ah look how cute and it happens a lot. That' 112 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,759 s a lot, that' s where they' re giving him three months 113 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:22,919 in any jail, but then they last one or two years, eight months. 114 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,480 So you do this pointing out and there' s a creep who doesn 115 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,679 ' t even sit around and talk to a lawyer and listen to what' 116 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:37,600 s the judgment he has on these of these abusive and disproportionate practices to tell 117 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,360 you not you, whatever you agree with what I did. Look, if 118 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,960 you ask me to walk in a street choir, it shouldn' t even 119 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,720 be a crime, according to my judgment. But the law is the law, 120 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,639 well. I don' t know. There you go. For the 121 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:52,120 first time, there are two more things than the prosecutors, the judges. 122 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:58,799 Here there is little lawyer who defends the mind, because this one if the 123 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,440 law says it' s three months, well, there' s supposed to 124 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,919 be a process to be carried out. A game. You can' t, 125 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:07,360 you can' t grab a tiger and present and give him three months 126 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,320 without a defense. Yeah, the game, even if you defend it, 127 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:13,519 as you define it, sends you three months, I DIDN' T Well, 128 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,200 if it says the law, that' s what you wanted to do. 129 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,759 If they do, but they say it because you defend it and carry 130 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:22,000 the budgets that you carry. If Thursday dis you go three times to jail, 131 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,519 you go three months to jail? Well, if that' s what 132 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,799 the lik says, then it has to stick to what you' re going 133 00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:31,600 to. I mean, the law allows you three months in prison under certain, 134 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:37,039 certain criteria. You understand that' s what the lawyer has to defend. 135 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,559 But if the judges do what they want and there is no society to 136 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:43,320 control them, they do what they still do what they want to do. 137 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:50,120 And within the same community of judges, there are judges who are very critical 138 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,320 of that. In fact, there is one of them that he writes and 139 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:58,960 the subject he touches on is exactly that, the issue of the abuse that 140 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:05,039 some magistrates have, of the measure of coversion, of deprivation, of the 141 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:09,120 freedom of the prisons of the Dominican Republic as the only measure of coversion. 142 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:16,279 Then the conversation here must be honest. We have abusive judges and prosecutors who 143 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,919 abuse and nobody wants to take care of that. We' re coming to 144 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:20,320 the rhythms of the morning.