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Eighteen out of twenty two previously to
the Jet Cardinals, and sheets from thirty

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eight yards away from the left hash
to win the game for the Texans.

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The snap, the swing of the
right leg, the kick is up,

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and the kick is good. The
clock hit zero and the Texans celebrates.

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They have defeated the Bengals by the
final score of thirty to twenty seven.

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Now I have Billy Cunningham, the
Great American the debacle yesterday and the fallout

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continues. Later on, we have
brad Winstrip, Moegar's good friend, who's

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the US Congressman. Moeger will respond
to that appropriately. Later on, we

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have an expert guest at two o'clock
who says that it's possible for a six

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month old baby to be a racist, and you must you must have an

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anti racist baby. Moegar. Welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And

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can I first give you my opening
remarks? Of course, it's your show.

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You do whatever you want. Hostechxon's
I think had a quarterback yesterday playing

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named Warren Moon and it was handing
off to Earl Campbell. I kind of

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look at the statistics here, how
about five hundred and forty five yards a

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total offense for Houston Texans. How
about C. J. Stroud, who

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was taken second in the draft,
not first because there was questions about him.

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Throws for about three hundred and fifty
yards. It's twenty three of forty.

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The QBR had to be over four
hundred and ten. And then you

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have Earl Campbell, also known as
this singletary dude, rushing for one hundred

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and fifty yards one hundred and eighty
eight yards overall. And the Bengals now

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find themselves in last place, firmly
affixed. Watching some of the morning talk

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shows, it appears that it's going
to be Armageddon on Thursday night. Only

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one team will survive. Of course, the Ravens are still in first place,

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and if they lose, there are
much better shape than the Bengals.

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And right now they're five and four, which is what they were the last

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two years. You may know that, but this year it just feels differently.

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You have a Pits team that's six
and three that looks terrible on paper,

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but they keep winning football games.
You got the bult you got the

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Cleveland Brownies. They look terrible,
except they're also six and three, and

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they got a much easier schedule that
the Bengals are playing every team from the

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eighty five Bears through the five Patriots. They have to win basically six of

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the next eight. Moe, tell
me why I should have hope. Tell

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me why I'm not in despair.
Tell me Joe Burrow has not been bengalized.

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Go well, So, to me, yesterday was about three things.

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The first thing yesterday it was about
the Houston Texans. You know, if

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I'm looking at this from a more
objective perspective where I'm not focusing so much

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on the team that lost, the
takeaway for me was CJ. Stroud is

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the guy. And I know you
know he threw the pick late in the

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game. It was just his second
this year. There's nothing better. And

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we know this feeling here, Willy, as an NFL fan, there's nothing

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better than feeling like, you know
what, we got our guy, Because

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once you got your guy at quarterback, it's not easy, but it's a

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lot easier to fill in around him
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So to me, the way that
they move the ball, Devin Singletary comes

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off the street. He was terrific. But more than anything, it was

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about a Texans team that is going
in the right direction. That's number one.

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Number two, this is a reason
to not feel despair what the Bengals

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did yesterday to themselves. There were
a lot of sort of outlary things.

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Joe Burrow made some uncharacteristic mistakes.
I count on Joe to not repeat those

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mistakes. Tyler Boyd drops a pass
in the end zone that if he catches,

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chances are we're talking about a terrific
Bengals comeback victory. And we're excited

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about Thursday playing a Baltimore team than
just lost. If they're in a similar

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position on Thursday and Tyler Boyd's open, his track record suggests I should trust

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him to catch that football. I
also feel like there's a track record with

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lou An Arumo's defense. Look late
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All get off the field, let's
go to overtime and win. They couldn't

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do it. That felt somewhat outlary
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that here in a second. I
think the third thing that yesterday was about,

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though, was math. At five
and four, you can't go five

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and five if you want to win
the division. Now you have to win

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this game on Thursday. If you
lose on Thursday, you're going to lose

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a game against Baltimore in the standings. You're gonna lose a game against either

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Cleveland or Pittsburgh in the standings.
Yesterday to me was also about, is

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that a game that we revisit,
a winnable game at home in which you

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were nearly a touchdown favorite and you
mount this awesome comeback late in the season.

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Do the Bengals lose a playoff berth
by a game? Do the Bengals

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lose playoff positioning by a game and
maybe have to go on the road in

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the playoffs and play somebody? Or
had they won that game yesterday they're playing

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at Pey Corps Stadium, do they
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narrowest of margins? And do we
go back and look at that game yesterday

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that was so winnable and go God, had that game against Houston gone any

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better, maybe this team would be
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To me, let's re visit it
later, because from a pure football perspective,

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if what we saw yesterday becomes the
norm with Joe making all sorts of

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mistakes and the Bengals not able to
execute critically down the stretch in lou Anarumo's

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defense, bending too much, then
yesterday becomes the turning point. But I

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prefer to say, look, we
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to be okay. Big picture,
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beat Baltimore, and they may and
if they do, we're gonna feel a

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lot better. But by the time
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we go back and look at what
happened against the Texans and wonder how they're

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positioning, how their season could have
ended differently had they won that football game.

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We spoke a few days ago.
Houston was hosting the Bearcats and Cincinnati

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was Hope hosting Houston. Here,
when I look at some of the statistics,

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you deal with the poetry. I
deal with the facts. Four sacks

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of Joe Burrow, including being hit
nine times. That's about thirteen times he

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was running for his life. There
was some play call near the end of

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the game and which Joe Burrow appeared
to have called or called in his helmet,

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so to speak, a quarterback draw. And I'm thinking, no,

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wait a minute, you're like on
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quarterback draw, and you have Joe
Burrow about to get his head taken off

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by the Houston defense. An offensive
line that's costing about a billion dollars,

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allowing thirteen occasions when he was hit
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he had to rush the ball,
that's a problem. And so offensive line

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for the Texans did better as opposed
to ours. The quarterback, believe it

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or not, did better as opposed
to ours. Overall, the defense for

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the Bengals gave up five hundred and
forty five yards, which is unbelievable.

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They were terrible. There were wide
receivers running loose in the secondary constantly,

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you have a situation where on offensis. In general, the eye test gave

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me the idea that the Bengals are
playing a better team, and it just

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looked like the eye test, the
Texans were much better. And on top

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of that, the fact that Mike
Tomblin and Pittsburgh somehow found a way to

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win. The Bengals are a much
better ball club than the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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I think the Bengals are a better
ball club than the Cleveland Browns, although

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they always beat them. Do you
agree with my math that at the next

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eight games is Ford home, four
in the road, that Ben Galley's must

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go at a minimum six and two
against a death schedule to get to the

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wild card, assuming they win or
lose on Thursday. Well, I don't

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know. Six and two would mean
they finished with eleven wins. Now,

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I think you're going to have to
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I don't think eleven wins. You
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wildcard team per conference. I don't
think eleven wins is going to be required

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to get the seven seed. Now. You know. Look, let's say

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the Texans catch fire and the Bengals
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both fighting for the last seed in
the AFC Wildcard pitcher. Well, then

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Houston's going to win the head to
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I think if they five, if
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of the way, they're going to
be okay and at least be a playoff

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team. But let's be honest,
Simply making the playoffs this year wasn't the

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idea. The idea was to win
a Championship. We all said at the

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end of last season, don't want
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in play, don't want to play
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Don't want to have to go and
try to win all these road games they've

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been so good at winning. Let's
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Well, the chances of that happening
the more you lose, obviously, the

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decrease. I think the big thing
for me is and the offensive line is

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complicit in this. Obviously, the
Bengals have been really good at scoring on

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their first touchdown drive, or scoring
on their first drive, scoring a touchdown

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on the first drive, and they've
done a good job scoring on their second

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drive, and then they go to
sleep offensively yesterday five consecutive punts, and

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then they pick things back up late
in the game. Now again, some

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teams that can work. It almost
worked against the Texans yesterday. It worked

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to a degree, I guess against
the Buffalo Bills. But in the sort

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of games that we want this team
to win, is that gonna work on

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Thursday? Where you just go into
these long, prolonged stretches where you're not

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even moving the football, much less
scoring points. I don't think the answer

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is yes. And this has now
been this has been something that is I

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think offensively kind of dominated much of
the season. They come out hot and

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then they go to sleep for way
too long. Not good. That can't

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be the norm. Unfortunately it's becoming
the norm. Well, here we said

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broken hearted, and I'm thinking,
Okay, bengaled and must arise like a

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mighty tsunami in difficult circumstances. I
think they're gonna be favored and to lose

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only in about two of the remaining
games. I guess in Kansas City as

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the line out. Yet on Thursday
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a couple of three point underdog.
Yeah. The last I looked, and

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I'm pulling it up right now,
I saw last night it was it was

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five. The Bengals were underdogs.
Those thing things tend to move. We've

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seen a lot of movement. Right
now, I'm looking at Baltimore. Baltimore

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is laying four points, four points, and that might have been what I

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saw last night. Baltimore is laying
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don't know about him, likely not
if he couldn't play on Sunday. I

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don't think ninety six hours later he's
gonna but that'd be great if he came

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back. Tyler Board is inconsolable.
And the one to pay attention to is

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Trey Hendrickson, who on the last
play from scrimmage obviously you know, hit

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the deck. Ian Rapaport of NFL
Network this morning said it's a hyper extended

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knee. So there's good news there. We're not talking about a tear or

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an ACL tear or anything like that. It feels like the kind of injury

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that he's gonna be able to come
back from. But can he come back

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in time to play on Thursday?
You know, you just saw what this

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defense look like without Sam Hubbard.
What if you have to play against Lamar

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Jackson without Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard
this game on Thursday. If I would

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have said yesterday morning, Willie,
the Bengals are gonna split their next two.

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Now, you would have said,
okay, that means they win right

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against Houston lose to Baltimore, said
okay, well, okay, that can

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work. Now you've got to win
this game on Thursday against the Raven.

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It's a death match from the Bengal
perspective, I think Baltimore, they're seven

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and three. They can lose and
me seven and four and keep going.

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Looking at the future schedule, the
Bengals have a terrible future schedule as opposed

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to Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Baltimore.
It's terrible, and they're gonna have to

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play at the highest level. They're
gonna be played like they played against the

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Buffalo. They're gonna have to play
at the highest level imaginable to win six

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of the next eight, to win
at Baltimore, to win at Kansas City,

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those are not easy. And then
also you have Pittsburgh. They got

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to win at Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh's
here for some reason. Pittsburgh's always had

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the Bengals number. How they're doing
it this year six and three is beyond

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me. I mean, they're terrible, except they must have the greatest coach

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in the history. I thought Chuck
Nole was good, but I tend to

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think Mike Tomlin might be better because
he, I mean, Chuck Nole did

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it with all time greats. And
talk about the defense of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Who knows who those guys are?
And basically he's got them playing good

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and it's unbelievable. Can you tell
me again why Joe Burrow did a quarterback

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drawl at the end of the game. Can you tell me that. I

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can't. It had to be something
that he saw. But you're right in

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talking about the math. If they
lose this game on Thursday, you know,

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just again do the math. They're
five and five, Baltimore will be

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sitting there with eight wins, and
they will have beaten you twice, which

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means they win the head to head
tiebreakers. So just call it what it

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is. If they lose on Thursday, we're talking about the Bengals making the

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playoffs as a wild card team,
which means you're playing on the road in

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Round one. If you lose on
Thursday, you're going to lose not only

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a game to the Baltimore Ravens,
but you're sitting a game behind Pittsburgh in

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Cleveland. One of those teams is
going to win because they play against each

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other. So if you lose this
game on Thursday, all right, not

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only are you three games behind Baltimore
in the win column and we'll have lost

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the head to head tiebreaker, you're
going to be two games behind the second

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place team of the division and still
a game behind the third place team of

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the division and sitting there at five
and five. What you didn't want to

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do was create a scenario where winning
in Baltimore was a must and unfortunately because

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they lost yesterday. If you're harboring
hopes that the Bengals are going to win

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the division now they have to go
to Baltimore and win on Thursday, and

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perhaps do it without their top two
defensive lineman, well, the best place

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for the Bengals to be in the
fourth quarter of Thursday night is fourteen points

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down. If somehow the Bengals could
be fourteen points down, guess what,

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They're going to win the game because
Baltimore stinks at the end of the game.

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That is ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.
Well, yeah, I think there's

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two things about the game yesterday.
Don't ignore the fact that the Ravens scored

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thirty one points on a terrific Cleveland
defense. Also, don't ignore the fact,

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and this is scary, Deshaun Watson
was really really good in the fourth

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quarter of yesterday's game. That's a
Browns team. Say what you want about

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not having Nick Chubb. The weirdness
of the quarterback situation. They're a half

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game out of first place. They
have a head to head victory against Baltimore.

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They split the season series. And
what did we all say after that

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first game, the boy the Browns, they're just a bad matchup for the

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Bengals. Well, guess who the
Bengals have to play Week eighteen. They

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have to play the Cleveland Browns.
So you know, the Ravens did fall

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apart in the fourth quarter yesterday.
I sort of made similar to yesterday's game

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here in Cincinnati. I kind of
made what happened in the fourth quarter in

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Baltimore more about the Browns than the
Baltimore Ravens. Regardless, you still have

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to play against the Lamar Jackson.
You still have to play against the Baltimore

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team. Even when they were beaten
up last year playing without Lamar. Heck,

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they nearly won that playoff game played
in Cincinnati. They were the better

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team when they played Week two.
They're playing on a short week at home,

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coming off a loss. This is
going to be a formidable challenge.

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If the Bengals clear it, I
think we're gonna go. You know what,

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all things good here. We're six
and four now, the season can

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take off, lose this one on
Thursday, and again we're talking about the

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Bengals in relation to the team's chasing
a wild card spot and the Bengals this

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year, about halfway through the season, they won a total of one game

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against an AFC opponent. One time. They've beaten the AFC halfway through,

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which is really almost unbelievable. All
right, Mo, we gotta go,

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but dark days lie ahead. I'm
not optimistic about this thing. I worry

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about Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor becoming
bengalized. They just have that vacant look

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in their eye. When Joe was
on the bench looking at I guess looking

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at his iPad, whatever he's looking
at, he had that far distant look

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in his eye, thinking what the
hell's going on? The quarterback drawl didn't

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work, and I'm thinking, but
as he almost brought his team by me.

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Look, Joe wasn't great yesterday,
but no, he throws a touchdown

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past the Tyler boyd that if he
catches it. The story today is about

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how clutch Joe Burrow was, how
Cam Taylor Britt made an interception that turned

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the game around, on how the
Bengals figured out away at the end.

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And you hate to make it about
one play, but Tyler Boyd, who's

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very reliable, very shorthanded, he
catches that pass. That the story is

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different. Nobody's talking about Joe being
bengalized. Unfortunately he didn't. And now

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what comes to the forefront are all
the things that led to the loss,

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all those terrible memories of a ghost. I mean, they're just kind of

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seeping in the back. I hear
the distant thunder and lightning and dark clouds.

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They're kind of forming over Ellesmere and
I just sensed it. I can

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just feel it, you know.
And I hope that's not the case.

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But I would have caught that ball. Mo. You put me on the

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field at the goal line, I
would have caught that pass. Now I

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don't have any doubt. Now here's
my question for you, changing topics,

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very very slightly, go ahead,
your beloved Xavier Musketeers. Tonight opportunity to

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play a team ranked in the top
three of both major polls. Did you

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even know that game was taking place
tonight? Let's take a short break,

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and moeh, I want to thank
you for coming on again. And I

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got my comments about Israel coming up? Do you want to weigh in on

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Israel? I won't weigh in on
Xavier if you don't weigh in on Israel

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I fudge Sunday. I'll take Sean
Miller. You take Matt Paynter, hot

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fudge Sunday. What do you think? How many points? How many points?

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Well, now you're gonna make me
look this up. Aren't you give

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me points? I need points.
I'm like a democrat and I need some

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unfair advantage. Give me the point
Savior is getting a Xavier is getting seventeen

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and a half points tonight. I'll
take it. In fact, I'll bet

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you too. I get seventeen and
a half points and Sean Miller for a

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hot fudge Sunday. I'm not in
tomorrow because I'm doing my show at the

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Morelin Logger House. I'm in on
Wednesday. I get Xavier. Tonight,

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I got Xavior. I got Xavior. I'm Xavier. I got just a

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minute ago you wanted nothing to do
with him, and then I tell you

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to and a half. I'll take
the points, all right, I'll take

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Purdue, all right, produce no
good all there, bunch of engineers,

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a bunch of bunch of skinny white
guys with Harry legs. I'm taking Xavier

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plus the points. Write that down, Tony Bell right then to produ that

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I could have. Yes, I
was a pencil neck geek with a ruler

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in my front pocket and a pencil
behind my ear. All right, Mo,

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thank you very much for your analysis. Joe Burrow is not yet Bengalized.

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Okay, see you Willie thank him. Oh all right, let's continue.

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