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Hi, this is the Everything Else
Show. This is when I do shows

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of things that kind of fascinate me. And I heard about our guest tonight,

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Nelson Dullas, through Dave Scott.
I was on his radio program out

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west in British Columbia, and so
he connected us. And I'm very honored

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to have an incredible human. He's
been considered one of the superhumans. Here

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he is Nelson Dallas. Hey,
hey Marton, how you doing good?

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Good? Thank you for being willing
to come on. Yeah, of course,

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no problem. Well, uh,
you know, the memory thing is

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really I think it's fascinating. But
you're also you've done so many different things,

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So what a background? And when
I said a superhuman, weren't you

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part of some competition, like a
superhuman competition or something. Yeah? Yeah,

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there was a Fox show I had
like two seasons I think, but

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it was called Superhumans and they just
collected a bunch of people who could do

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seemingly superhuman things and it was like
a competition, talent show kind of thing

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for money. I see. Yeah, And how did you do on that

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one? In particularly? I did
not win. I was up against some

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tough competition. The person who went
on my show was a young kid.

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I think it was like fourteen fifteen
calculator, so he could do in the

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same calculations really fast, and he
was a charming little kid. So no,

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hope, hard to compete. Yeah, I know the people that can.

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I mean, you can probably do
hie for a while too, even

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I don't know you have that memorized, but I mean I do figures thousands

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of digits, is that right?
That's amazing that. That's always just fascinating

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me. I love watching things like
that, how people have these abilities.

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And I remember there was there was
something they called the Raymond of York,

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a guy from York, Maine,
and he was autistic, but I'm telling

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you he could. He ever remembered
dates going all the way back to the

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Civil War. Oh wow. I
confused a date that my son was born

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on because he was born on a
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how your mind can kind of group
things. So I said, no,

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he was born on a Friday.
He said, no, he wasn't.

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He was born on a Monday.
And then he got really upset because I

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was challenging him, and he was
absolutely right. But that's that's always been

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fascinating to me. But we're here
to talk about a little bit about the

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memory part but also viewing, which
has As soon as I am heard that

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you were getting involved in that,
Uh, that's I had. I don't

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know if you know who Edwin see
Edwin c May from Y. Yeah,

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I had him on my show several
years ago from was it Stargate project right

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seventies. Yeah, he's probably the
person who's who's who's researched this, the

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most fascinating person to talk to,
so credible too. Which Yeah, I've

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talked to him a number of a
number of times and we've had great conversations.

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He's a physicist, so that's my
background, and so when we talked

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together, I feel like I'm talking
to somebody that I know and trust and

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believe in. So it just adds
to the whole, my whole belief system.

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You know. Yeah, what was
that there was a movie The Men

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Who Stare at Goats or something like
that. Was that that was more or

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less about that? Yeah? It
was, Yeah, exactly, it's it's

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I think it's a comedy. It's
it's not a good movie. Unfortunately,

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George Clooney's in it. Spacey's in
it. Yeah, tons of Jeff Bridges

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I think, and even McGregor,
great cast, you know, but I

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don't know. It's I do know
that it's like an amalgamation, an amalgamation

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of all kind of these sigh stories
and legends, some true, some not,

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some kind of blurred together. But
yeah, they took quite a few

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liberties with the truth, I think. So, oh, that's too bad

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they They probably didn't even have to. It's probably spectacular enough, yeah,

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without having to do that. So
what what made you look into remote viewing

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to begin with? So, yeah, it's it's it's it's an interesting story.

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I was reached out, well,
not personally, but there was a

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message board for us memory athletes,
the people who do these memory competitions,

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on Facebook, and it was a
message very vague, saying, you know,

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here's a gig basically, get paid
a little bit of money to learn

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some skill and to apply it part
time. Whatever. That's it, right.

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I'm usually interested in these kinds of
things because I've I've had some very

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interesting job opportunities or one off gigs, you know, because of memory that

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have kind of seemingly nothing to do
with memory. And it's just a fun

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ride so I always throw my hat
in the ring and see what happens,

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you know. Yeah, so I
did. I got a call maybe the

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next day, and it was from
a very eclectic guy who, straight from

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the bat off the bat was like, Hey, have you heard of remote

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viewing? And I said no,
and what is that is? You know,

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it was during COVID time, So
I was like, is that like,

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you know, you're watching TV remote
from somewhere else? Like, I

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mean, that's what we do now, that's not that you know. No,

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He's like, no, it's you
ever heard of this government program where

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they use psychic spies. And I
was like, I think I've heard of

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something like that. I don't know, but my eyes at that point were

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rolling in the back of my head. I was like, Okay, here

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we go, right, this is
it's one of these. And I also

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felt like maybe there's some scam or
they're gonna ask me for money or something

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like that. They didn't. In
fact, they were going to pay me

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to train me a memory athlete,
because supposedly in their little research group they

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had an idea or they wanted to
test out the idea that people like me

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who have highly trained visual abilities through
the memory thing would be better remote viewers

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spistically, so they wanted to test
that out. I was paired with a

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remote viewing expert coach for a month. We trained every day for an hour

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or two, and yeah, I
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the goal was after the month,
I was going to be doing these tasks

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for this company, which was basically
a trading firm. They were trying to

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predict you know, stock movement,
oh stock with us, with me and

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other viewers. Yeah, that's a
dangerous game, I would think. Yeah,

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I mean it's not my money,
so whatever. Yeah, yeah,

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that's that's how it started. So
I was very skeptical at first, but

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I thought two things. I'll make
a little bit of cash. I have

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the time, and cool story,
right we are, cool story that I

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can maybe put in a footnote in
a book some day or something. Yeah.

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So before I asked the next question, what it is and what it

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isn't I was on a radio show. I was on audio only, and

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the guy said, I do this
to every guest remote viewing. So I

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something on my desk, Tell me
what it is, And I just said

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the first thing that popped in my
mind. I said something that looks like

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a turtle, and he said,
well, it's a hard hat. So

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yeah, that's close enough. I
mean, that's that was my only experience

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and was just it's just whatever popped
in my mind. I don't know why

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that did, but that's awesome.
I mean, yeah, and it's probably

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nothing to it. But let me
ask you a couple of things here.

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Do you think that it necessary it
doesn't necessarily or it does necessarily take someone

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with a visual and good memory like
you have, or do you think that

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about anyone could try it and do
it. Yeah, so I wasn't convinced

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that it made a difference. I
mean, I think from the statistics that

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I have from the trial that did
for them, and I've done a ton

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of trials. Personally, I feel
like I'm okay, I'm maybe not amazing.

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I think I'm maybe better than okay, just good. But I don't

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think it's well, I don't know, frankly, and I think from their

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end, I don't think it was
conclusive whether that was true or not.

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I think anybody can do this.
I do think it's kind of like,

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you know, maybe one's ability to
learn languages, let's say, or music.

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You know, some people may have
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that it comes naturally to them.
But everybody can play the piano, you

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know what I mean. I just
can't all be Mozart. So I think

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there's definitely people who are playing up
here. I don't have to try too

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hard. People like Joe mcmonagle,
yeah, I know that name, and

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Hingo Swan Ingo Swan, Yeah,
and I know how put Off had something

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in this, and I know there's
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their names. There was one guy, Oh, mcconagall, That's who I

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was thinking of. He did a
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he Ye, yep, he was
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for a project recently and ma just
listening to him, you know, it's

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the amount of detail and the proof
and he's one of the only, I

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think the only remote viewer that has
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You know, if you want to
talk about debunking or proving or whatever,

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there's proof. Granted, these are
TV shows, but a lot of these

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shows are. They basically had panels
of judges that would try to debunk what

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he was doing. And you know, the proof is in the pudding what

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he's doing there? So now,
wait, I've had this weird thing going

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on with my girlfriend and I.
We have these weird synchronicities, I mean

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really really weird constantly. I mean, like last I'll give you an example.

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This is just a minor one compared
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happened. Last night, I was
asking her where we saw Justin Hayward from

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the Moody Blues and what was the
name of the theater and she said it

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was The Monkey in Plymouth, New
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got an email and I've only gotten
a couple for like a bands in town,

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that's what it's called, and but
never of Justin Hayward. And it's

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Justin Hayward in the top. The
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And I got that email at the
same exact time, you know,

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And I'm what I'm getting. I
mean, that was That's just one thing.

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There's been so many things. But
anyway, does synchronicities is that?

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Is there any part of that that
could play a role in in this type

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of situation? What do you think
about some mini cities anyway? Yeah,

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I think it you know, if
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like why I think remote dealing works
the bottom lines, I don't know,

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and maybe have some ideas and fantasies
about what could be interesting if it was.

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But I think whatever it is,
I think it permeates into a lot

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of the human experience more than we
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think there's a lot of unseen connections
between all of us beings with consciousness,

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perhaps yea, and I would imagine
I like to think this that perhaps people

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who are maybe more more emotionally connected, like you and your girlfriend, a

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significant other, even twins, right, maybe have this even more so.

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So, Yeah, things like that
where you you're kind of on the same

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wavelength, you pick up on things
simultaneously, or you can kind of predict

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or read each other's minds. It
feels like sometimes I think it's probably more

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common than we think. Granted,
you know, if you're living with someone,

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you can probably you're probably picking up
on cues that you're not aware of,

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right just you know, maybe you
sense things with you know, a

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second before you even realize it.
But I think there are also some of

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these instances where it's just like you
can't explain it. You just know it

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and there's no other explanation. And
I think possibly lives in the realm of

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what is happening with remote viewing and
these PSI abilities, so like intuition,

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and yeah, whenever I talk about
this, because I always feel a bit

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shy to come forward and explain that
I'm into this, it's it's a big

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departure. You're in the right place. Yeah, I feel very comfortable here,

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but from my background and everything that
I've believed in my life, it's

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a big departure for me in recent
years. So it's it's a bit challenging

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for me to step foot in there, you know, and people will criticize,

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but I'm okay because I've experiences and
i feel like I've done enough in

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it and then studied it enough that
I'm not just throwing stuff out there.

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I feel like I've had an experience
and I'm explaining my experience, and that's

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that's kind of it. I'm not
saying for sure that it's it's it's real,

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or that there's something really paranormal going
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that there is so yeah, but
what but what I was going to say

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is that when people question this and
they don't understand what the hell I'm talking

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about, I say, hey,
we all have this feeling of having a

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gut feeling, right yeah, I
think everybody can relate to that, where

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you know something's wrong, you just
feel it, or you maybe feel somebody's

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following you or staring at you.
This intuition, right, I shouldn't do

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this decision, or I should go
somewhere else right right now? We all

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have that can relate to that,
And I think that's kind of the starting

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point of what this really is about, is that we're able to pick up

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on information that isn't really perceivable,
but we just feel like we know it,

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you know. Yeah, Yeah,
I've had things where I'm just absolutely

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certain about something and you know,
I mean, but some of it could

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be coincidence that you know, there's
so I you know, someone's asking for

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you to please share your experiences.
I'll get to that, and that can

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you please explain what remote viewing is
and is not, just so it's clear

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to the people you know watching and
we'll be listening. Yeah, let's see

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if again. So at its base, it's it's it's basically ESP all right,

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So some extrasensory perception, specifically remote
viewing. I define it as the

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kind of controlled protocol that one does
to try to perceive things that are not

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local, meaning nearby, or perceivable
by our normal five senses. Okay,

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so what that might mean is I
could potentially perceive something in a bunker in

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Siberia, right, or see something
on the moon, right, And it's

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it's also a local remote meaning now
the future of the past potentially, even

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so it's not limited to time and
space, you know. And then in

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terms of viewing, the remote viewing
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you're you're seeing, right, but
I think a better term to go by

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is perceiving, right, So not
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kind of like feeling and sensing data. And also what it's not is is,

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well, this may vary maybe for
the best remote viewers it's it's quite

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different, but ultimately it's not you
know, it's not in high fidelity what

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you're perceiving. You can imagine that
maybe you have like a film, like

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a sheet, a black sheet,
right, with little holes in it,

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right, And what you can see
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tiny, little pinhole, you know, and sometimes you maybe get a slightly

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bigger pinhole or a few different pinholes, and you can kind of get more

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of the picture, but it's not
like I'm looking at something. Maybe people

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who are better at this can see
more, but usually the data that we

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get is quite weak and not super
clear, but it is still something,

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and I think that counts for a
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isn't possible through the normal senses.
Yeah, speaking of normal senses, you

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know, I say this on the
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lot that we probably know very little
of what's actually going around us on around

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us all the time with the senses
that we have, the spectrum and all

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of our other senses. Maybe electronic
sensors can pick up things like that.

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But I've also heard people talk about
everything's on a vibration and everything is like

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connected, you know, I mean, you know, which is another fascinating

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realm of kind of along the lines
of possibly where you're talking about. Yeah,

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there too, and I think it
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well. So so I guess,
you know, for there's a lot of

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people asking they're they're trying to get
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what they had for dinner and stuff
like that, So what is uh?

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you're about ready to do a session.

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I'm not saying you are, but
just saying, how does one set how's

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it set up? And how how
does all that work? Yeah, that's

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a great for those asking that question. That's exactly what I was doing too

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with my remote viewing coach the first
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right, here we go. What
am I about to say? What did

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I do you know this morning?
What am I going to do tonight?

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You know? And I was surprised
to learn that it wasn't quite that.

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I'm going to learn how to be
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future, right. But again,
I think it's helpful to think like there's

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you're looking through a pinhole here,
and so it's you can imagine how blurry

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and how you can't see very wide, right, so it's very limited in

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what you can do. So knowing
that and ED may will say this too,

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that it's not the best way to
get information. They're probably better ways,

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you know, especially now with satellite
and all that stuff. But if

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you want to talk about the cheapest, well, and if you can actually

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look across time too, then that's
something we can't do otherwise. But for

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what it costs to do that,
it's it's actually pretty cost effective because you

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just need your mind in a piece
of paper and a pen. Right anyway,

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So when when I sit down to
do a session, what's really important

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is and again I don't know why, I don't have any explanation for this,

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but it works best when it's blind. What you're doing is completely blind,

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right, So if somebody were asking
me, like, what color is

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shortened am I wearing? I already
know I'm trying to guess a color,

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right, and I probably don't know
the person. But you know, if

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I even look at their name,
their user name, or I can see

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where they're from, I'm suddenly going
to have things that are going to buy

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us potentially what I guess. Okay, So, and Joe mcmonagle is very

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adamant about you know, whenever you
do a session has to be double blind.

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Double blind being meaning the person doing
the task has no idea what is

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the thing you're trying to see,
and even the person who's assigning the task

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doesn't know. Okay, so how
does that I'm trying to figure out how

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that works. So like if someone
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to someone else and basically yeah,
I said, yeah, And so what

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digit number, totally random, and
that number is associated. So someone designed

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sets up this target where the number
actually represents some thing, and that thing

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could be you know, I'm just
trying to guess what a picture is,

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let's say, or you know,
I don't know in the government whatever they

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were trying to spy on, you
know, what's at these coordinates, right,

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something like that. But as as
the viewer, I don't. I

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don't know anything. The less I
know, the better this works. Okay,

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the whole Yeah, because the whole
thing is based on what we talked

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about before, intuition and kind of
this kind of subconscious unconscious mind all right,

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anytime, and our minds are always
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things we don't understand. So as
soon as I have information, my my,

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you know, logical mind is trying
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and that's what we have to block
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is about, is quieting that analytical
mind because it's going to try to make

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sense out of what seems like just
noise, right, But the actual process

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is about honing and nurturing that intuitive
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So I'll have this task number.
I'll sit down. There's a whole

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protocol that I go through, and
essentially it boils down to me just feeling

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what comes down on the paper,
you know, And there's steps that I

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go through to kind of explore that. And again, I'm trying to quiet

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out the mind. So I might
you know, I'm starting with colors,

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right, I see blue, white, red, right, And even already

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there, I might think to myself, hey, are we talking about this

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is the flag? Maybe an American
flag? Right? I have to shut

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that guy up, And there's ways, there's little tricks and techniques to do

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that, but it's very hard.
It's hard to stop that because our minds

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wander, right, But you put
that aside and you just kind of keep

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going with the flow of information.
That comes down to the paper from your

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hands, right, something will come. If you write something, it will

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happen. Right, Where is that
coming from? What is that? Right?

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And that's that's this this flow of
information that is it pard me for

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interrupting, But is it? Is
it drawing a picture or is it actually

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words? Yep, it's a bit
of both. So you'll start by kind

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of writing descriptors, and it helps
to have kind of an ordering. You

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know, you could do colors,
dimensions, sounds, tastes, movements,

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things like that, and then you
do like a very basic sketch again,

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kind of taking what you've described,
but also kind of free hand impulsive intuitive

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what happens with your hand as you
make something on the paper. I know,

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this all sounds wild. And then
depending on how in depth you've been

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trained, there's other steps you can
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first sketch you do might have some
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right that are kind of vague,
and then you can do a session on

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each of those and get even more
information. You know, maybe you have

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like this kind of circular blob thing
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thing on the top on top of
it or something. So okay, maybe

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there's two kind of distinguishing features here. Let's dive into the first one and

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then do another session for the second, and then maybe the first one.

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You realize, oh, it's some
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you know, bad smell, and
it's it's you know that like a soft

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I don't know, it sounds like
to me, yeah, yeah, sure.

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these descriptors, all these sketches,
and some of it is noise, you

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know, but you can always kind
of see like there's a stream of something

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that that kind of a theme,
you know, that kind of pops out,

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and you can kind of take that
and write up basically a summary at

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the end that kind of says not
exactly what it is, like, Hey,

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this is a car, you know, like a BMW you know,

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M three whatever. No, it's
not like that. It's you almost have

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to describe it vaguely. But with
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it's a life form, you know, in some kind of water environment.

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You know that some coarse skin and
you know, maybe it's a shark,

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you know what I mean, But
you don't say it's a shark. So

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you try to keep because the thing
is, I've done so many sessions where

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I wasn't able to quiet that mind, that analytical mind, and I said,

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oh, this for sure is a
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it being a shark, right,
And then I get I see the result

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just to this is an example test, just to see if I can practice

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the skill. And you know,
instead of it being a shark, it

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was maybe, oh, I don't
know, you know, like a a

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stencil right in the shape of you
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eye shaped something. I don't know, so it kind of looked like a

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fit if I thought so, But
maybe, you know, it actually wasn't.

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stuck on something that you think it
is, and so you can try to

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pull back and just be more broad
and vague about it and and it usually

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will match better to what it actually
is. I know that sounds like you're

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maybe kind of what do you call
it, like, trying to make it

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fit to something that it isn't.
And that's why maybe this works. But

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it's it's not quite that I'm explaining
it wrong. But it almost sounds like

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you want your mind to be free
floating as much as possible. And I

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know that. You know the average
person thinks something like forty thousand thoughts a

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day. So how on earth can
you quiet your mind when you're trying to

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do this? Is Is there some
type of meditation or something, or it's

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it's hard, you know. I
I meditate in my own way a lot

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of the memory training that I do. Actually before I memorize something where I

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have a fixed time to do it
in and I'm trying to go really fast,

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you know, I have to be
I have to quiet the mind because

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I'm focusing on a task. It's
rapid thoughts right of what I'm what I'm

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reading, I'm trying to memorize,
and any other thought that comes in is

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going to detract from the thing that
I'm doing and take away some points or

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the time that I have to memorize. So through practice, I've just gotten

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better at that. I don't meditate
per se, but definitely before I memorize,

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I have kind of my own ritual
to like lewer my heart rate,

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to control my breathing, to focus, and it's kind of like that before

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I do one of these sessions.
Sometimes I just try to write stuff to

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get it off my mind. You
know, I have thoughts and feelings through

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the day. I just need to
bar fit out. So it's it's a

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blank slate. Breathe, try to
clear my mind, and then I try

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to do the session. It's not
always perfect, you know, but I

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think it's something you can constantly try
to work on and improve. And what

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are the digits? What role do
they play? And you said I think

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you said eight digits or something like
that or whatever it is random digits.

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Yeah, I don't know what the
who or why that was decided, but

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there's no information in it. I
think, do you need it? I

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never got a straight answer from people
I asked about this, like what if,

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why do you need it right?
Why can't you just sit down?

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If you're we're truly coming up with
anything, why can't you just sit down

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and do it? But I think
the way this all works has to do

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with intention on behalf of everybody involved. So somebody is setting this task up

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and say, hey, this picture
of a dog I want Nelson to predict

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or yeah, psychically, see,
I'm going to associate it to something that

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I will give him and through that
thing I will give him, and through

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all this elaborate effort to create the
situation, that is how he's going to

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connect to it. I don't know, I don't know. I don't fucking

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know, but that's that's my impression, right. So it gives you the

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number, gives you a place to
kind of join into that vibration line or

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that information line. Maybe. Now
I want to ask a couple of things

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of what some of the things that
you've done and been successful. One but

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it seems to me that I had
heard something so many years ago about there

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was and I don't know who it
was, but they somehow knew where an

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enemy sub was. And I know
that's probably what in the nineteen seventies,

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you know, the Cold War of
what they were trying to find different ways

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of getting information. Like you said, you know, we do have the

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satellites. Now we have so much
more, you know, so many more

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ways to get information. But do
you recall what I'm saying there was some

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remote viewer that if you can't recall
that, I'm going to ask you in

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particular, what's the most extraordinary account
that you've heard about or looked into?

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Yeah? Yeah, so there's a
few. I mean, a lot of

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these are are declassified now and you
can find a good history of a lot

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of the successful operations using remote viewing
over the years in the eighties and nineties.

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One was there was a down down
plane in the Sahara or somewhere in

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Citta. I don't remember the details, and they were able to view it

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with uh you know, they couldn't
find it, but with remote you knowingly,

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they were able to target it.
I forget who I think there was

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mcmonagle, might have been Ingo Swan, I don't remember, but that one's

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pretty famous. You know. Joe
mcmonagle's found missing people using this ability,

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and he did this on Life Odd
Live TV. The one that blew my

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mind, Miss I heard about from
Joe mcmonagle and it's out there, man,

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but it's it's crazy. So he
and I would assume for the show

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you would love this. But he
was given a target when he was part

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of the operations there, and what
he viewed was something that seemed off planet,

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very dry and desert like, very
red. It seemed to be Mars,

409
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:09,480
okay, except there was this massive
pyramid huge, well, actually a

410
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:15,960
few pyramids right and there were beings
there, and he goes on to describe

411
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:21,480
kind of what even the beings were
feeling. And I think they were trying

412
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,519
to get off the planet, or
you know, something was running out on

413
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:29,960
their planet and they were trying to
leave or something like that. But they

414
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,240
had been there for a while and
they had these these these pyramids there.

415
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Yeah. It turns out that the
task was these coordinates on Mars and the

416
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:45,079
actual target that they were looking for
was Mars one million years ago. Okay,

417
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:49,720
Yeah, he didn't know this.
Again, he's coming up with this

418
00:33:50,039 --> 00:34:00,319
out of nothing. Right now.
What's interesting is the coordinates. So the

419
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:05,119
way they did task back there is
they would give them a number that represented

420
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,840
coordinates on Earth or in this case, Mars, but they also when they

421
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,519
create the task, give it the
detail that this is a million years ago.

422
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,960
Okay, But the coordinates that they
were trying to get him to extrapolate

423
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,000
information from extract information from was a
satellite image of Mars of a crater that

424
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:34,880
next to it has this shape that
seems to look like a pyramid. And

425
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,039
if you look at the picture,
I mean it's from above, and it's

426
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:39,760
it's grainy, it's it's black and
white. If you remember this is in

427
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,400
the early two thousands, there was
that famous face. You know, it's

428
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,239
one of those images where if you
look at this and you're like, is

429
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,440
that a pyramid? Looks like a
pyramid, And even the shadow makes it

430
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,559
look like if this was a pyramid, it would be huge, right because

431
00:34:53,559 --> 00:35:00,400
the shadow is really long. So
anyways, that was the coordinate MILLI years

432
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,960
ago on Mars and uh yeah,
and Joe has a ton of success with

433
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:10,199
his his things, so you know, you now take that as as you

434
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,599
will. You know, I didn't
realize that a time was part of it,

435
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:19,400
yeah, just because I haven't looked
into it enough. But so what

436
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:25,039
about has anyone tried to do future
things? Yeah? And so this is

437
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:30,920
where you know, nobody knows anything
really about this in terms of how it

438
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,119
works and what's possible. I've heard
so many different things about it. Seems

439
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:39,880
like maybe in the past it's easier, let's say, because the information is

440
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:47,280
there, just it's already happened.
But I don't know if we're talking if

441
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,400
time and everything it's all there,
then how should it be any different for

442
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,639
the future. I don't know,
But I have tried to predict things in

443
00:35:54,679 --> 00:36:00,280
the future. Right. The The
initial thing I was a part of was

444
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,719
predicting stocks. I've done a lot
with trying to predict sport outcome support events,

445
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,559
and it seems like and then this
is where I, you know,

446
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,880
if I don't know what's the right
thing or not, it seems like the

447
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:22,400
closer to the event you do this, the better the results. So now

448
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,440
I's had a total unbiased the same
way like trying to get your mind floating

449
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:31,760
and not like, uh, you
know, like going a certain way because

450
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,280
of some type of influence, like
finding out something about someone being injured in

451
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,119
a you know, a sport,
or something like exactly right, if I

452
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:43,519
know the two teams and I know
the favorite, or like I, oh,

453
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,079
that's a better team, or you
know, right, like the Lakers

454
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:52,519
are playing but Lebron's injured, or
something like they're probably maybe not gonna win

455
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,440
this game, right, So I
don't want to know that information at all.

456
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,880
It's interesting when you have situations where
it's an A or B outcome you

457
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,320
know, this team wins or that
team wins. There's a specific kind of

458
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:12,440
remote viewing called associated remote viewing,
and the task is around predicting basically a

459
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,760
photo so somebody sets up a task
where the two photos A and B very

460
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,480
distinct photos from each other. One
is associated to one outcome and one is

461
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,960
associated to the other. And when
I say associated, it's really just the

462
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,239
person who sets the task is saying, hey, photo A. Just even

463
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,800
if they say this, mentally,
A is going to be associated with this

464
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,119
person team winning and D with that
one, okay. And then my task

465
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,199
is to just you know, describe
something that I'm seeing. And if it

466
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,760
there's a there's a judge involved,
and they judge which photo was the better

467
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:51,519
match. And usually if you do
this well, it's pretty clear which is

468
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:58,480
the winner, and that's your prediction. Okay. So that's the associated remote

469
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:02,800
viewing. And I'll usually do this
let's say before a match tonight. I

470
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,800
might do it an hour before.
I've also tried doing it well in advance.

471
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,639
So for example, last year was
the World Cup. You know,

472
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,880
it's a thirty day tournament, and
a few of us in a remote viewing

473
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,039
group were like, let's try to
predict the winner of the whole tournament right

474
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,800
now. There's what there's like one
hundred plus games to be played. There

475
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,079
were some favorites at the beginning,
But anything can happen in thirty days,

476
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,519
right, So a lot of us
in the group actually predicted Portugal, which

477
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:42,000
wasn't a bad pick. It was
very interesting that a lot of us got

478
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,639
Portugal, so there was something happening
there. Now, Portugal got pretty far.

479
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:52,280
I think they got to the final
eight and then Morocco beat them.

480
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,639
But you know, I remember,
I think it was on the round of

481
00:38:55,679 --> 00:39:04,039
sixteen Ronaldo didn't start, right,
it was a coach's decision. He's run

482
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:07,840
all those the superstar, right,
He's a bit older, so maybe the

483
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,599
coach, for whatever reason, decide
he wouldn't start. He'd be subbing in,

484
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,119
and that I feel like that's something
that might affect his performance. Is

485
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:20,480
ego, right, which might affect
other players. Right. My point is

486
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,440
is that over the course of thirty
days, there's so many little things that

487
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:28,920
can happen that might divert the chances
of something happening. Right. So I

488
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:35,880
see more of the future being a
collection of probabilities, right, And there's

489
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,480
some that are more likely to happen
some outcomes in the future than others.

490
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,679
And so if you try to predict
that, maybe you get the most likely

491
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,000
outcome. But it's not necessarily the
one that will happen, right, And

492
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:52,039
as time gets closer to that point, a lot of those the probabilities converge

493
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:58,760
to one, right, or the
probability function collapses. Right, that's my

494
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,840
take on it. So Portugal did
not win. They got pretty far.

495
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:05,280
But you know, you can't help
but think, like, thirty days out,

496
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,519
so much can happen. So I
think when you're trying to predict something,

497
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:14,280
it's better to do it closest to
the to the moment, which you

498
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,000
might think like, well, okay, so you can't really predict the future.

499
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:20,599
Well maybe I can, right,
and it's worth something if I can

500
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,760
tell you who's going to win a
game five minutes before it happens. I

501
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:28,800
mean you can make money, you
know, speak time that would you know,

502
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:34,000
that's not really letting go on the
outcome if money's involved, right you

503
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:36,800
know? Right, Yeah that's true. Yeah, yeah, and that other

504
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,360
people might argue that it doesn't work
so well and your intentions are not pure,

505
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,519
right, so you're trying to make
money or whatever. So I don't

506
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:49,480
I don't really know. I do
question, you know, like where are

507
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:54,719
all the billionaire remote viewers? Right? I'm not one of them. Yeah,

508
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,840
yeah, not yet. Yeah right, maybe maybe the true billionaires are

509
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:04,840
just lying low. They did their
their their sessions, their remote viewing sessions,

510
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,679
and they're just living it off in
some beach town somewhere. Yeah,

511
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:15,079
yep. So now this is all
really fascinating. And can you what about

512
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:22,639
when you were being tested? I
understand it's it's actually the accuracy of remote

513
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:27,000
viewing isn't really that high, but
but there is seems to be something to

514
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:32,679
it. So did you have some
that you can that you actually were involved

515
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,199
in that you were pretty amazed on
how they came out, like how close

516
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,760
it was? Yeah, examples,
Yeah, yeah, I could. I

517
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,000
could even pull something up. Am
I allowed to share the screen? I

518
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:52,119
do believe that you should? Well
you can try. Do you see present

519
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,840
down below there? Yeah? But
I gotta find you can try it.

520
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,480
It won't take too long, but
I'll try to keep talking. Well,

521
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,599
but or you could just nailed to
me and I could I could pull it

522
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:06,000
up if there's if it's a link, or if it's a it's a photo.

523
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,079
One of my better sessions. Actually, it's the one I used,

524
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:15,559
for example all the time because it
was so it's the one that I saw,

525
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:23,000
and uh, it basically made me
change my mind on old amping.

526
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:29,639
But before I show that one,
I also talk about well, first of

527
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:36,639
what you said that the success rate
isn't that great, and that's that's correct.

528
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,239
It's it's a pretty weak effect.
Okay, I'm not gonna lie,

529
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,159
but it still is an effect,
and I think is worth kind of turning

530
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:52,559
your head towards because if there was
nothing at all, yeah, we're just

531
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:54,920
going with our lives. But if
there's something anything going on the thing,

532
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,079
that's worth kind of looking into.
Right with the associated remote viewing, where

533
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:06,559
you basically are dealing with two options, you know, if you were truly

534
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:10,760
guessing, it would be fifty fifty
right. Over time, thousands of trials

535
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,880
with different people and groups should all
balance out to fifty fifty right or fifty

536
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:22,480
percent correct fifty percent wrong guessing photo
A photo B. If you're a good

537
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,239
remote viewer, some people can get
up to seventy percent correct. Again,

538
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,760
not perfect, but you know,
well, that's that's definitely impressive right most

539
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,639
of the time right, or more
than you're not. And then you know,

540
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:42,559
for me, I was flirting with
like the high fifties sixty percent,

541
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:45,519
which is not that great, but
it's definitely better than chance. Right.

542
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:52,280
Yeah, So so there's that.
Now. What I've been doing a lot

543
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,920
recently. I lived near the race
track here in upstate New York. Is.

544
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,079
Yeah, it's going to the track
right and trying to guess the horse

545
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:08,119
race winner. And I went one
day last year, just one day,

546
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:13,079
I was going to remote view every
single match, every single race. Sorry,

547
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,559
there were ten races that day.
Each race had about ten horses.

548
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:20,360
Some get scratched, some have more, some have less, but average is

549
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,280
about ten. And my goal was
just to guess the winner right of those

550
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,199
ten races, and I would do
it right before each race. That day,

551
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,800
I got four out of ten.
Okay, so I was able to

552
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,559
guess forty percent of the time.
Now that it may out sound that great,

553
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:44,400
it's a small sample size, but
it you know, I would have

554
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:47,599
expected to get one out of ten. Yeah, I mean that that's a

555
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:52,599
lot actually when you think of it
and what generally happens, Like if you

556
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:57,519
were betting with money, then you
had a really good day. Yeah,

557
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:02,360
exactly right, So is this I'm
close to finding the thing I'm looking for.

558
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,320
But anyway, so I kept doing
that, so I kept doing it

559
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,119
remotely from my house. I would
just you know, find a match and

560
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:15,559
then or a race, and then
I would bet on it and see what

561
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:20,360
would happen. And over time,
so I've been doing this for over a

562
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,320
year now. My results are still
around forty percent. A little less now

563
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:35,760
maybe i'd say thirty three percent.
And I've done maybe like sixty trials now,

564
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:39,760
and so I was trying. I'm
not I'm not a statistician, but

565
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,960
I can write. I'm a computer
scientist, so I can write programs.

566
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:49,920
I've done a lot of simulations like
if this were chance, what how likely

567
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:53,000
is what I'm what I'm doing right
now due to chance? And it was

568
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:57,960
like one in more than ten thousand. So to me, that's significant,

569
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,119
you know, Yeah, that's pretty
good. It's a little impressive chance.

570
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,320
Yeah, all right, So I
have here This is so you can see

571
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,239
what one of my sessions look like. Now, you may not be able

572
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,039
to share it. You can try
if it's a photo. I don't think

573
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,400
you're going to so, but what
I'd like to ask you to do is

574
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,239
if you could just you can actually
just drop it in an email and just

575
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,440
send it to me and I'll pull
it right up. You want to do

576
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,880
that, okay? Yeah, And
so if you can talk, if you

577
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,440
can multitask here, yeah, I
can keep talking. I'm getting it into

578
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:38,280
your box here, all right.
So do you think that uh you know,

579
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,800
you're talking about, say, people
breading on horses. Do you think

580
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,400
there are actually people that are actually
doing this out there that? I mean,

581
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:50,920
our people do. People a lot
of times, you know, they're

582
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,199
people a lot of times can have
a problem with gambling. You know,

583
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,920
it can really go in that direction. So uh, you know, and

584
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:07,599
I know that just from a friend
of mine who actually he he won really

585
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:13,480
big in the Islands when he had
no money and he just happened to whatever

586
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,119
it was. He was able to
stay there for the rest of the winter.

587
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:22,440
But ever since he had that,
he's always thinking he's right on the

588
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,840
edge of winning. Yeah, and
it's been a problem, you know,

589
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,519
for him. And so I'm just
wondering people that, you know, have

590
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:38,599
you ever heard of someone trying to
get this type of edge just and that's

591
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:45,400
a gambler in particular. Yeah,
I mean I've heard mostly of groups of

592
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,159
people doing this. I think that's
where they have the best success, because

593
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,079
me doing it solo I've just told
you I feel like I'm doing okay.

594
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,079
I'm not betting crazy money because I'm
not a gambler. I just want to

595
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,639
test something here because I'm like putting
ten b a race kind of thing,

596
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:07,159
you know. But I haven't heard
of anybody, you know, struggling with

597
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,199
gambling addiction because of this. But
yeah, maybe it's not the best way

598
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:17,280
to go about testing this. You
know. For me, proof is in

599
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,000
numbers, right, So the statistics, even the dollars, right, So

600
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:25,559
if I started with an X amount
of money and I do this for a

601
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:30,000
year, what is the money that
I have out? That to me is

602
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,920
also an added proof to me.
You know, I'm not really trying to

603
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:38,559
prove it to the world. I'm
just want more conviction from myself all the

604
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:43,920
time. So yeah, I would
be careful with that. Maybe do without

605
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,199
money, right, or just try
to have tasks set up for you.

606
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,320
It's very easy to ask somebody to
just randomly choose a photo, associate a

607
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,519
six to eight digit number and then
give you that number, right, and

608
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,320
then just practice with that. It's
really cool will just to even feel that

609
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:08,320
you remotely get close to something that
you have no information on. You won't

610
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,719
get it every time. Sometimes you
may get bits of it, but sometimes

611
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,000
you will get something that will absolutely
blow your friggin mind. Well, here's

612
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,440
here's what you sent me. There
was also a whale. Did the whale

613
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,840
have something to do with? Yeah, let's look at the whale first.

614
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:30,679
Let me let me upload that.
I didn't do that yet. I'll get

615
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,840
that out right. Yeah, So
what I'm showing you. So when I

616
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,280
was training, you know, every
day I learn more about the process.

617
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:43,360
But my coach Brett would have me. You would come up with photos at

618
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,760
random, and then I would do
a session and try to perceive it.

619
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Right. So this was one of
them. That's the eight digit number that

620
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,800
I was given, five to six
zero one four oh eight, And this

621
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,920
was the image. Right. I
don't know what this image is. I

622
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,000
don't know anything about the kinds of
images that Brett is choosing. It's completely

623
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:05,400
random. They like in a sealed
envelope or just in another location or usually

624
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:08,440
yes, in our case, since
this was on COVID. During COVID,

625
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,239
we were doing our sessions remotely,
so he just had them I don't know,

626
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,440
on his computer or you know,
I don't think he actually had an

627
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,119
envelope, but I could not see
them right. And and for the for

628
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:27,039
the audio listener, here it's a
it's looks like a humpback wheel arching out

629
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:30,719
of the water. And the numbers
the digits are five two six zero slash

630
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,599
fourteen oh eight. Okay, and
I can put these and I can do

631
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,480
like show notes, a show note
for you for this, and can put

632
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:44,079
that in the show notes. So
here's the here's the other image. Now,

633
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:50,280
so there are maybe ten pages of
of of my whole session. This

634
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,039
is the last page because, like
I said before, it's kind of where

635
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:57,079
I take everything and I put it
together in one sketch and then kind of

636
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:01,719
do a best summary here. I
apologize for my handwriting. But now if

637
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,360
you're looking at this and you're like, dude, Nelson, that's not a

638
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,280
frigging whale, Okay, I agree, right, Like it's not. It's

639
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:16,880
not frigging realistic painting, right,
But if you look at let's look at

640
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,440
the photo here, right, So
what I have is this thing coming out

641
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:25,679
right arched right with these appendages.
I drew these little things coming out,

642
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,000
granted they only have two fins,
but I did see some kind of appendages

643
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:35,119
coming out of the side of this
life form. If you write there,

644
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:38,199
I have animal. There I have
furry. That's not correct. But again

645
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:44,320
listen, if you look at the
photo, there's kind of like a fuzziness

646
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,000
of water carried with the thing emerging
out of the water. So I say,

647
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:52,360
furry here. Perhaps that's what I
My analytical mind did a little bit

648
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,079
of work there and was like,
you know what, maybe that's fur.

649
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,480
Right, it's not so clear,
but in fact it was like a layer

650
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:05,039
of splashy water, right. What
else? So then there's also this line

651
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:08,079
across the bottom here with the undulating
waves. That's the water, right,

652
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:14,159
that's the wavy water. And then
off to the right there's kind of like

653
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:17,480
this thing with arrows going down.
That was something I saw, some kind

654
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:23,000
of water wet thing dripping down,
and you could argue that that's the water

655
00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:29,519
falling from the the whale. Okay, now if you go go back to

656
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:32,039
the text again, well I got, I got. I don't know if

657
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:35,280
you could see this up on the
screen right now, but I have them

658
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,840
both up there at the same time, side by side. Yep, you're

659
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:44,639
not able to see that, so
you can see the arching is very similar.

660
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,920
Uh yeah, that's it's it's not
perfect right. So I think even

661
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,760
here I'm talking about like when I'm
describing the water portion of this photo the

662
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,840
ocean, I say land mass.
That's not a land mass. Expansive,

663
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:06,719
sure, firm, no summer,
no right, enjoyable at subjective right,

664
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:13,320
But there are so many other things
that it's something right. And at the

665
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,599
end here I say, so we
have some kind of native nature setting true

666
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,559
in pleasant weather. That was not
so true with two distinct things on the

667
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:27,320
site. One is a life form
of sorts breaching with movement in and out.

668
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:32,119
So I'm seeing something breaching out.
Second thing more wet, sticky,

669
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:37,519
falling from up to down. I
think that's as amorphous and that's the water

670
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:45,360
kind of falling down from this breaching
animal, you know. So I guess

671
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,559
that's pretty amazing. And listen.
So I gave myself a seven point five

672
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,440
out of ten. He made me
do that for every session, and I

673
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:58,159
will tell you, as I rolled
my eyes after every session, I was

674
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,679
like, this is a one out
of ten, and maybe this is a

675
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,800
two if if if we're being very
generous, but usually I would give it

676
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,840
a zero or one. I was
very hard on myself. So when I

677
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,760
saw this, I mean, the
goosebumps came and I was just like,

678
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,760
Okay, that is not a one, that is not a two, that

679
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,239
is not a three, that it's
not a four or five. This is

680
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,119
something, And in that moment,
I knew something was happening, you know,

681
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:28,000
And listen, even if say I've
done one hundred sessions by then,

682
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:32,079
which I had, and I've done
maybe twenty twenty five, maybe you could

683
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:37,000
argue that out of a hundred sessions, one of them would be some kind

684
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:39,199
of whale coming out of the water, right, And it just was luck,

685
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:45,880
right. But I definitely felt something
when I did that session, and

686
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:52,320
it felt like I knew what it
was. And I don't think this is

687
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,320
chance either. So yeah, well
that's that's pretty spectacular. I'm going to

688
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:06,000
share your your website right here because
I can do that on this end,

689
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:13,360
and so here here's your website.
And but I would imagine you probably don't

690
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,800
have remote viewing on this. Is
that a mention of that? Not yet?

691
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,800
My YouTube channel is mostly memory technue, basically memory techniques, But I

692
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,840
was part of a project with another
YouTuber who posted all this remote viewing stuff.

693
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,559
I should maybe share that with you. It would be very interesting for

694
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:36,920
your viewers. And I have my
own videos that I've been secretly working on

695
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,239
that I'll eventually release to kind of
test the waters. But I'm taking my

696
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,280
time with that. That'll eventually come
out, and I do want to you

697
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,039
know, we don't have a lot
of time here left, but I do

698
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:53,400
think it's quite amazing that you have
tried to climb and you got really close

699
00:55:53,440 --> 00:56:00,000
to the summit of Mount Everest,
which I must have felt like it took

700
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:04,199
years off of your life from what
I've heard other people talk about. Yeah,

701
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,360
yeah, a lot of the lines
on my face are from that.

702
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:13,639
And Dave Scott told me that you
got really close to one time and you

703
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,199
knew that you had to turn around
or you were going to die. Yeah.

704
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,760
Yeah, I mean, I know
we're off topic what we were talking

705
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:28,440
about, but if you don't mind, what was that experience like, Yeah,

706
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,679
this was twenty eleven. It was
the first attempt on Everest, and

707
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:39,519
I was young, but strong and
committed and ready to summit this thing,

708
00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:43,239
and I think I would have.
One of the issues I had when I

709
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,599
got part way up to the summit
was my oxygen mask malfunction, so I

710
00:56:47,679 --> 00:56:52,519
ended up having to climb without it, which you can do if you're like

711
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:58,880
an insane athlete and you acclimatized properly
that way. I had not because I

712
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,440
was intending to use oxygen after a
certain point, which most climbers do,

713
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,400
so climbing without it really messed me
up. And by the time I got

714
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:13,960
to what's called the South Summit,
which is just sixty seventy meters from the

715
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:20,320
top, I was in a very
precarious situation. I sat down. It

716
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,559
was one of those things you hear
about where if somebody sits down and they

717
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:27,480
just don't move and they just become
a part of the mountain, that could

718
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,800
have been me. And I felt
like, yeah, I could go to

719
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,000
sleep now. And there are people
that are part of the mountain. There

720
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,199
are, Yeah, there's one in
particular that I've heard people say they went

721
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:44,519
by the guy with the blue jacket
or something. Well, there's green boots.

722
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:45,840
I don't know if that's the one
Green boots, that's it. Yeah,

723
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:50,360
Okay, they actually removed him.
I was an Indian climber from I

724
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:57,119
think ninety six on the north side. I've actually I've stepped by him a

725
00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:02,000
different attempt, but yeah, I
heard that took him away. Yeah,

726
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:06,039
but yeah, it was a surreal
experience the whole. I mean, each

727
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:08,320
of my climbs have been a crazy
story, but that one in particular,

728
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:15,079
I was very close to being one
of those fixtures. And what goes on,

729
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:19,480
what went on in my mind that
night was it's a whole other show,

730
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:27,280
very surreal, dreamlike things, hallucinations, voices, was that was.

731
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,639
Some of that had to do with
the lack lack of oxygen, because you're

732
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:35,719
do you think I think so?
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Right,

733
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:43,920
you're at almost twenty nine thousand feet, you know, Yeah, the

734
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,440
amount of oxygen there's about a third
as there is at sea level, right,

735
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:52,760
so our brain news oxygen. Of
course you're not functioning at your your

736
00:58:52,800 --> 00:59:00,320
sharpest. And yeah, a lot
of people report seeing hallucinations and a lot

737
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:06,039
of weird things happening in your head. Were you there, were you climbing

738
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:08,719
alone or did you have someone with
you? Yeah? With my team,

739
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,800
you know, we were kind of
in the line. We spread out through

740
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,199
the night though, as some climbers
were faster, some slower, But each

741
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:22,400
climber had their own spa climbing with
them. Really it was this, there's

742
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:29,599
such these powerful, strong local climbers, and you know, we hire them

743
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:35,280
and pay them to basically do all. You know, we're just these amateurs

744
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:38,440
walking and they do all the hard
work, like they carrying the gear,

745
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:45,639
yeah, gear, setting the ropes
and taking care of us and yeah,

746
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:49,800
something you think you'll ever try again, or you think you're pretty much done

747
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,079
with it. No, I would
love to. I think I can do

748
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:55,239
it. It's been a few times, but I feel like I can do

749
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,000
it. And I'm thinking maybe either
next year or the year after. The

750
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:05,679
mountains changing a lot, so we'll
have to see, but i'd like to.

751
01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:07,239
I love that place, you know, it's mine. And in what

752
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:13,880
way is the mountain changing? Just
the way it's climbed and how busy it

753
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:19,800
is, and who these days thinks
they can climb Everest and who can't,

754
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,719
And I don't know. There's a
lot of like politics and yeah, it's

755
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:30,480
it's not quite as natural as it
used to be. M M all right,

756
01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:35,280
well we're we're We've gone about an
hour. But just one thing.

757
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:44,039
I want to again bring up your
website because you do actually give an online

758
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:49,719
memory course, which I oh,
and there's a waitlist. It's closed at

759
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:53,079
the moment. Yeah, but we
open it up maybe two three times a

760
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:59,679
year. Probably the next one will
be sometime in fall. But yeah,

761
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:04,679
i've memory course. I also teach
privately if anybody wants one on one coaching.

762
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:08,119
I have some books on Amazon if
you searched my name, teach memory

763
01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:12,039
techniques. And then I have my
YouTube channel which is absolutely free. So

764
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:14,920
you have to watch some ads.
That's great. But yeah, well,

765
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:21,000
well I'll put all this in the
show notes here and anyway, this is

766
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:22,880
really great. I looked at some
of the videos. I saw the one

767
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:30,679
where you you were teaching a wife
the royal what was it, the Royal

768
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:37,559
monarchy. It was pretty funny.
Yeah, she did well, she did

769
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:40,599
really well. So yeah, I
mean the techniques were I didn't. Yeah,

770
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:45,800
I didn't have to do much before
we started. I told you I

771
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:51,199
had taken a mermaid course and years
ago in the nineteen nineties, and was

772
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:55,679
all cassette tapes. But the way
that I was learning then and I can't

773
01:01:55,719 --> 01:02:01,559
think of the person that I almost
Harry had a very strong accent of like

774
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:07,159
a New York accent or something that
Harry Lorraine, Harry Lorraine that sounds right,

775
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:12,480
that's it, I know, that's
yeah, yeah, Harry, yep

776
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:20,519
so. But he was teaching to
use consonant sounds, and you know,

777
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:27,760
I learned all that like say too. I can't remember exactly how to associate,

778
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,119
but it was all pictures in your
mind and extraordinary pictures if you could

779
01:02:31,159 --> 01:02:37,679
do them. The more extraordinary,
the more easier it is to remember.

780
01:02:38,239 --> 01:02:43,679
When you're trying to remember a person's
name, look at something about their face

781
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,639
and try to make their name work
with their face and some outstanding feature and

782
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:53,119
picture that feature really exaggerated. Everything
has to be exaggerated. Is any part

783
01:02:53,199 --> 01:03:00,239
of of what you do similar to
that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

784
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:01,920
I mean these techniques haven't. I
didn't come up with them, you

785
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,079
know. I mean I've come up
with my own kind of take on them

786
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,800
and some strategies that maybe are on
my own, But yeah, I mean,

787
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:12,760
these techniques have been around for thousands
of years, and Harry Lorraine was

788
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:16,760
another era teaching the same thing just
in his voice. But yeah, that's

789
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,000
a lot of what I teach as
well. Well, I'm gonna tell you

790
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:27,559
why why I chose to do that. He was in some television program where

791
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:32,079
there's a big audience, and he
was given a I believe it was a

792
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:37,679
Time magazine, and he had like
fifteen minutes ahead of the show whatever to

793
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:44,840
memorize the Time magazine. So someone
randomly in the audience audience said, page

794
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,440
seventy three. I'm just throwing a
number out there, and he said,

795
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:51,800
it's an American Express card. Add
and the number on that card is five

796
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:55,840
seven four three seven nine like that, and it's John Doe. And you

797
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,800
know, I mean just to it
just blew me away. And so I

798
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,480
just said, okay, I'm going
to try to try to figure this out.

799
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:06,400
And it was a lot of fun. Of course I forgot everything how

800
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:12,400
to do it. But but a
simple grocery list is you picture one thing

801
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,400
like jumping into another, or you
know, an exaggerated like a banana jumping

802
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,840
into a box of cereal, or
now you have to get bananas and cereal

803
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:25,440
or whatever it is. It's all
about visualizing these crazy pictures and visualization and

804
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:30,440
exaggeration and things over the top and
interaction. All that kind of stuff is

805
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:35,880
what makes something pop in your memory. But when you're memorizing several decks of

806
01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:41,920
cards in a row, I just
can't even imagine. It's I mean,

807
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:45,920
I mean, how can I ask
you? How? You of course do

808
01:04:46,039 --> 01:04:48,400
that? So in that case,
you know, you have a bunch of

809
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,599
cards that are just symbols. Right, there's a number in a suit.

810
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:58,400
So if you could exaggerate, right, you know, a ten of diamonds

811
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,480
and imagine it doing, you know, that would be great. But the

812
01:05:02,519 --> 01:05:08,159
problem is, how can you really
imagine a number and a diamond, you

813
01:05:08,159 --> 01:05:10,840
know, especially when they're all a
sequence of them and they all look the

814
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,719
same, right. Essentially, there's
so many there's four different tens, right,

815
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,800
and it's just four suits. So
what we do in that case is

816
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,320
we strategized and came up with an
idea to what if we gave each card

817
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:27,800
its own image right through some means, some convention where we can convert the

818
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,039
number and the suit into let's say, a word, kind of like your

819
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,519
consonants you were talking about for numbers. So essentially, with a pack of

820
01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:42,000
cards, all fifty two cards for
me and other memory athletes are a picture

821
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:45,719
of something instead of the actual suit
and number. So for example, ten

822
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,480
of diamonds to me is Oscar de
la Joya, the boxer. Okay,

823
01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:54,159
So whenever I see this card,
I don't see this. I see him

824
01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:58,559
in a boxing ring, sweating with
his gloves on, you know, if

825
01:05:58,639 --> 01:06:01,559
that's something, And so that's easier
to remember. So the first card is

826
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:06,039
the ten of diamonds. All I'm
doing is picturing Oscarville Hooya, right,

827
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:11,639
And then the next card comes along, Jacko Hearts is a pirate. So

828
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,280
maybe he's in the boxing ring being
the crap out of a pirate. Right,

829
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,079
I can picture of the pirates hat
coming off. He's like saying,

830
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:23,400
right, he's got a hook for
a hand or something, and that I

831
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,559
can exaggerate, right, And then
when I go back to remember, I

832
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:29,360
say, oh, okay, I
was at the boxing match oscarvillea ten of

833
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,719
diamonds, right, punching the crap
out of a pirate jack O Hearts,

834
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,119
Right. If I know that conversion, it's that part's easy, right,

835
01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:41,159
It's just a matter of weaving this
elaborate story that represents the cards or this

836
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,039
abstract information. Well, I didn't
realize you had cards on you. There

837
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,480
any chance we can can any chance
we can get a demonstration in some way,

838
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:54,440
But yeah, it's it's it's it's
a bit of dead airtime. It

839
01:06:54,480 --> 01:07:00,079
takes me about like a minute or
two to to to do it. Just

840
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:02,480
watch my videos. I don't know. Okay, so'll be shuffling the cards

841
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:11,480
and so while you're doing that,
I'm going to go through your website and

842
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:16,639
I'm going to bring this up here
and let's see if I can. I'm

843
01:07:16,679 --> 01:07:21,599
not sure if I can actually play
a video of yours, but I'll go

844
01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:26,159
through your website while you go ahead
and contentrute to you so I don't get

845
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:30,840
distracted. Oh absolutely, yeah,
you go right ahead, Yeah, you

846
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,840
go right ahead. Yeah. So
we're going to let him do that.

847
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,519
This is kind of exciting. I
think this is fine. I hope.

848
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,440
Let's see. I'm going to look
in the chat while we're doing this too,

849
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,480
there's anything. Thank you all for
being here tonight. In the chat

850
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:55,519
we have Steven who kept asking about
the color of his shirt if he could

851
01:07:55,719 --> 01:08:03,199
guess that cable guy his highness,
and then someone from Facebook Leeb thank you

852
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:09,800
for showing up here, Yoshi,
Yoshi. Let's see le Milk at some

853
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:14,920
other And I do want to thank
everyone for coming to the special last kind

854
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,359
of last minute show that we had
here. For sure, I've seen you

855
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:25,840
on many times, His Highness and
Ferko, thank you all for being here.

856
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:33,920
Random Rick Reviews are our Ferko was
said earlier that he kept asking,

857
01:08:34,119 --> 01:08:36,920
Okay, what did I have for
dinner tonight? What did I have for

858
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:43,479
dinner? And then finally he said
he had a check Chick fil a,

859
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,239
And then people down below said,
yeah, I knew it. Anyway,

860
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:50,479
I thought it was kind of kind
of funny. So anyway, I hope

861
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,439
you learned something, you know,
I did. I learned a lot tonight

862
01:08:54,680 --> 01:09:00,640
what remote viewing is not and what
it is. It's really fascinating, and

863
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,119
I didn't realize, you know,
so much of it just had to do

864
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:11,720
with just trying to, you know, keep a neutral, neutral thought pattern.

865
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,560
And what I didn't realize also is
that the person has no clue to

866
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:23,680
what they are going to be trying
to. They absolutely have no clue as

867
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,399
to what it is that they're going
to be doing. I didn't realize that.

868
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:33,800
So I think that makes it kind
of special for it to have some

869
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:39,880
type of accuracy. And I'm sorry
if I didn't get some of your questions

870
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:46,319
here, but we're going to be
probably getting are you done? All right?

871
01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:51,359
So let me just I memorized it. Let me just go through to

872
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:54,800
my head to make sure I have
it before I say it. Okay.

873
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,279
Once I do that, if I
have it, then it's it's usually there

874
01:09:58,279 --> 01:10:01,720
for a while, So hold on
one second. Okay, all right,

875
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,159
I think I had it, So
I want to how's the best way to

876
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:06,720
do this? I'll show it.
I have to close my eyes. See

877
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:12,439
I'm seeing if I have a blindfold. But okay, so let me put

878
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,760
you up so you're solo here on
the screen. Okay, can you see

879
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,359
this? I can see it,
all right? Are you ready? I'm

880
01:10:20,399 --> 01:10:23,399
ready. But you're gonna have to
hold it up a little bit higher.

881
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,560
Okay? Is that good? A
little bit higher? Right there? It's

882
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,239
perfect? Okay, everyone here he
goes. Can you see that my eyes

883
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,880
are closed? I don't want you
can see your eyes are closed? Okay,

884
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,479
all right, So Queen of clubs? Is that right? Yeah?

885
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:45,520
Okay? Uh? Six of spades, uh, four of spades, three

886
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,600
of clubs, yep, jack of
spades, yes, nine of spades,

887
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,600
seven of clubs. Yeah. You
keep going, and I'll say I'll say

888
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,399
if you get it wrong, yeah
right, if I don't or anything,

889
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,920
I've got it right. So that
was seven of clubs, Ace of diamonds,

890
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:13,880
eight of hearts, nine of clubs, Queen of Spades, five of

891
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:20,680
hearts, eight of spades, three
of spades, Ace of spades, Jack

892
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:29,800
of hearts, ten of clubs,
two of clubs nine. Sorry, I

893
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,199
don't know if I is this nine
of diamonds. Next one, Next one's

894
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:36,520
nine of diamonds. Okay, so
nine, nine of diamonds, Queen of

895
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:45,119
Diamonds, Ace of hearts, seven
of hearts, Jack of clubs, King

896
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:50,439
of spades, nine of hearts,
six of diamonds, ten of diamonds,

897
01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:59,600
King of clubs, Ace of clubs, eight of diamonds. Is that right?

898
01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:04,880
Yeah? Okay? Four of hearts, seven of diamonds, six of

899
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:13,800
hearts, two of hearts, five
of spades, four of diamonds, seven

900
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:19,600
of spades, ten of hearts,
two of spades, five of diamonds,

901
01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:28,479
Queen of Hearts, ten of spades, five of clubs, King of Diamonds,

902
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,680
eight of clubs, King of hearts, three of diamonds, four of

903
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:40,479
clubs, Jack of diamonds, six
of clubs, two of diamonds. Oh

904
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,720
two more, Oh, this is
the two of diamonds, right, yeah,

905
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:48,680
yeah, And then this is the
three of hearts. Yeah, unbelievable.

906
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:57,319
There you go. Wow. Now
that was just amazing. So thank

907
01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:02,039
you so much for doing that extra
little a little bit. So are you

908
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:05,720
tired now when you do something like
that, doesn't it seems to me like

909
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:10,920
that would be really a strain on
the brain. It's okay. Once I'm

910
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,520
into it, it's fine. I
just get nervous. Uh. Put on

911
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,039
the spot. I'm out a little
out of practice, to be honest.

912
01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:21,640
Just you know, my best ever
takes me like thirty seconds. But when

913
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,560
I'm doing it live and I want
to get it perfect and you know,

914
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:30,439
it's yeah, really on the spot. Yeah, yeah, just to let

915
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,680
everyone know, I you had no
idea that I was gonna do it.

916
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:39,239
I mean, we're gonna I didn't
even asking stuff. But anyway, I

917
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:43,000
really appreciate it. Can I I
don't know if can I ask one thing?

918
01:13:43,159 --> 01:13:45,159
Yeah? Absolutely? This is a
UFO. Well it's not the UFO

919
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:48,399
podcast, but can we no,
No, I'm all about UFOs. So

920
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:53,399
yeah, all right. So I've
had two encounters. All right, They're

921
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:59,119
not the greatest ones, but I
think there's something. Okay. One was

922
01:13:59,319 --> 01:14:01,760
I was just out side late at
night doing a workout in my driveway,

923
01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:08,119
there's this orange light, you know, and I'm very cognizant of the stars

924
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:11,720
and where they are and what's out, but this one seemed a little brighter

925
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,439
than usual, a little bigger than
usual. Didn't recognize it as what it

926
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,359
should be in the sky. And
I was doing these this intense workout,

927
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:24,800
jumping over this bar blah blah blah, back and forth, and then maybe

928
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:30,680
five ten minutes later I saw a
little bit closer, bigger it seemed.

929
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,159
And then five minutes later, when
my workout was finished, it was gone

930
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:40,039
right, And I had this whole
weird feeling that it was kind of like

931
01:14:40,119 --> 01:14:44,560
watching me. But that was one
it could be. Let me, let

932
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,720
me just would you consider that an
orb? Yeah, it was definitely an

933
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:53,399
ORB shape? Yeah, yeah,
because there is there is a there's a

934
01:14:53,399 --> 01:14:58,399
guy that has written book, a
book on orange orb ufost sightings. So

935
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:02,399
it's not it's not what is his
name, I can't think of it right

936
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:09,720
now, but yes, that that
is something that a lot of people talk

937
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:14,560
about different color orbs, but orange
seems to be a predominant color of a

938
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,680
lot of these, whatever they are. Okay, yeah, okay, let's

939
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,640
hear the second one the other one
having recently, I was on a mountain

940
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,800
and the stars out there are in
the same Okay, So I was on

941
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,680
Kilimanjaro and wow, you can just
see the milky way. I bet for

942
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:38,760
miles and you know, I actually
was trying to was it C five?

943
01:15:39,079 --> 01:15:43,800
I was trying to haven't hear about
that? Yeah? Okay? Yeah?

944
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,439
I like, why not, right? And especially if I'm into this remote

945
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:50,119
viewing stuff, why can't I sit
here and try to conjure something up in

946
01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:57,840
the sky. So I sat there
and really focus my energy on, you

947
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,880
know, a specific part of the
sky. Nothing really happened, except at

948
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,399
the end when I was like,
I was like, okay, I didn't

949
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:10,239
work. I saw I think what's
referred to as like a flash bulb where

950
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,720
it's it was just like a star
that went really bright and then disappeared.

951
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,960
Right, It was brighter, bigger
than a star. That was it.

952
01:16:18,159 --> 01:16:24,279
But it felt like a response to
what I was doing. So I don't

953
01:16:24,279 --> 01:16:29,560
know what else does that in the
stars. Yeah, I've never had an

954
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,039
experience like that, so I can't. I've done a lot of star watching.

955
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:35,880
It wasn't just like a twinkling.
It was like someone turned a flashlight

956
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:41,279
on and then off, you know, very consciously. So that was interesting.

957
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,560
Maybe you saw a supernova. Maybe
no, no, they would know

958
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,680
all about you'd be hearing about that. But anyway, excellent, Well it's

959
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:55,079
been it's been a blast. Thank
you. You're a very interesting person and

960
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,560
it was really a pleasure to have
you on this show and to talk about

961
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:04,039
such a variety. And anyway,
I will link all your memory course and

962
01:17:04,079 --> 01:17:09,439
the website and everything to the show
notes for this show, and I will

963
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:14,720
send you the links to my friend's
YouTube channel where you can watch the there's

964
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,920
like three episodes plus a podcast of
the investigative stuff we did about remote viewing.

965
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:24,840
We interviewed Joe mcmonagle, we interviewed
Yeah, please do that right away,

966
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,079
and I'll put these in and just
for the for the for YouTube,

967
01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:32,039
I can link the show notes.
The show notes will actually be part of

968
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:36,319
the part of the show on another
page, so that's how someone will be

969
01:17:36,359 --> 01:17:41,319
able to find that. Okay,
it'll be linked to it. Yeah,

970
01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:44,920
perfect, excellent, all right,
thank you so much, Thank you,

971
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,920
Martin. Have a good one,
all right, take care all right,

972
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,319
everyone, thanks for watching and listening, and we'll be back with something interesting

973
01:17:51,359 --> 01:17:54,399
on the show at another time.
Thanks again