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Welcome to this edition of The High
Strangeness Factor copyright on the Paranormal UK Radio

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Network. I'm your host Steve Ward
on the High Strangeness Factor Andy Mercer and

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I explore all aspects of the unexplained
and the paranormal with guests that are researchers,

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investigators and experiencers. We are now
into our fifth year here on the

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Paranormal UK Network and it never gets
boring. Andy, welcome back. It

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gives me back on board. I
think I missed the last show for various

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reasons, but I am here again. Is good to be back. And

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we mentioned earlier off air obviously that
we connected with absolutely no problems, and

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that's that's a first. Usually one
of us can't hear the other or there's

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something and at one point, you're
one of your laptops was going horribly a

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right, there was a while back
then when I had a computer that was

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sort of open basically top was off
and it was literally just getting to work

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just about because the other had died. But no things go to be working

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fine for the dours at the moment. So what's going on with you?

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You're a publishing company, for example, Well, yes, today the second

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book has finally gone off to the
printers. We had a few delays and

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a few problems to sort out,
so it's a bit later that it was

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planned to be. But literally today
it went off. So it's going to

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be crossing figures and hopefulling works out
fine with the printing. It takes about

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four to five weeks and it'll come
back to me. So quite a large

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bill to pay out tomorrow, which
is not looking forward to. But that's

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the investment you put into putting books
out. But yes, this one was

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much more simple than the first book. This was on Essex witchcraft, history

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of Essex switchcraft, including some interesting
up the date material and the few articles

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the friend of one who's written the
book has might as to get hold of

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not been published before. So that's
that's quite exciting. So it's a new

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approach, a new angle and some
well known material to do Essex witchcraft.

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So really to that, I know
there are hurdles to get over and little

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glitches and so forth, but how
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new venture. Oh it's excellent.
I mean it's been more than ten years

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in the planning of as you know, maybe some of my listeners. Now

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used to a psychotherapist, I tided
to take a break from the career and

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finish that, so effectively retired from
psychotherapy. But I always have the idea

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of publishing on and off since the
early two thousands. Really, but whatever,

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thepy was a little bit quiet.
I think we'll go back to that

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plan of publishing, and then worked
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ages. I thought. With the
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in the West Country, I thought, now this is it. Going to

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go for it? And so far, so good. It's worked well.

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My first book completely sold out,
so very good, very good. And

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and if I ever if you do, you still do psychotherapy on the side

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in case I need some, Oh
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get my discount right, oh absolutely, employee discount. Okay, very good.

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And and speaking of employee discounts,
uh, where I'm gonna welcome back

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Susie Bastille as guest co host now
she is a returning guest co host.

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Susie, welcome back to the show. Hi, Steve and Andy, it's

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my standing. Thanks for having me
back. It's our pleasure. And listen.

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Uh, I didn't talk to Andy
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knocking your pay right up to our
level with all the I think I take

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that as an insult. Well think
about that. Well you get all the

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fringe benefits. Of course they're all
imaginary. But that's that's all right,

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is imagine es? Well, now
I think it's time to let's see if

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I just find the right I'm having
trouble finding buttons tonight. But I want

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to introduce our guest. And by
the way, I should have asked Matt

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to correctly if I'm correctly pronouncing his
name. We'll find out in just a

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moment. Matt empsh Is that correct? Yes, sir, it is.

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Oh, thank God? Is the
creator a planet four one two. He

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has been a radio broadcaster for eighteen
years, color commentator for high school,

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college and semi pro football for fifteen
years Western Reserve Radio dot com. He

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played college football for Jim Tressel at
Youngstown State University ninety one through ninety four

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and full scholarship on four straight one
Double A or FCS national championships, winning

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ninety one, ninety three and ninety
four runner up ninety two. Matt has

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an incredible dog man encounter that we
will be talking about. But that's not

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the only event that lies outside what
we think of as normal experience that has

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been part of Matt's life. Matt, welcome to the High Strangers Factor.

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Thank you for having me. It's
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wonderful job. I watched some of
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Okay, that's good to hear.
I've seen them before, but I wanted

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to catch up and familiarize myself.
I already know Susie and I have done

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a show together, and you know, I know she can do her stuff.

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I just wanted to refamiliar eyes myself. And you know, you have

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that voice that some of the guys
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years. It's just you were born
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a great job. Wow, how
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want to go fast? Oh listen, I'm gonna go out and get something

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to eat. Now, you guys
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it's a pleasure to have you here, and we want to thank Susie for

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making the connection for sure. Absolutely. Like I said, it's an honor

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and I I really enjoyed doing a
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definitely doing everything right and a and
a hot up and comer and in this

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field. And it's it's an honor
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I I try not to ever,
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the impression that I am not you
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welcome. Well, it's and it's
always a lot of fun. I'm kind

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of known as the Mothman guy these
days, and Jeff Lonsley, who runs

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the Mothmann Museum, can't do all
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of them get sent to me,
and it's it's always a lot of fun

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doing Mothman one on one. And
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it's always an honor to be asked
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this stuff. And so I'm not
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when? Uh? I guess I
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know the path people took to get
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had experiences, So as an experiencer, where did you experience the paranormal or

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the unusual as a young child or
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one of the things that I've been
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And I apologize if you hear my
dog in the background, I hope

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you don't. Her nemesis, the
squirrel, jumps in the windows sometimes and

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bothers her, so we try to
get her controlled. If she doesn't stop

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in a second, I will actually
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you know what, can you guys
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going to get her closed off.
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book in the mail today? Not
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get three of them. Two of
them Amazon said sorry, they'll be here

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tomorrow. And there one that a
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from reading Colin Wilson's Alien Dawn.
Again I'm a sucker for when when they

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they refer to other books, I
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I'm going to have to have that. Both deal with remote viewing.

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One is called Psychic Warrior. I
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And then there's another one. Oh, Robert Munroe wrote the other one his

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third book, I think, and
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But anyway, so I'm looking forward
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I'm sorry, no problem. We
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I think that's what real radio people
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but I hope you can't hear her. It's really it's really not a problem.

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My cat, one of my cats
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walk across the keyboard, so that
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I know, if Susie's up too
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I don't think she has a cat
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thirty pm exactly that he starts to
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pet people, so we know there
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What I was starting to say before
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the things that I've found out in
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when that happened, I became,
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I found out that there are definitely
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times. And what I mean by
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both sides and people that have had
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you will usually find one side or
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things happen. So, starting from
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Lebanese and I'm half German Irish.
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and my great great aunt were now
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just them. They lived by a
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And one day this story was told
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mother was helping. You know,
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mom helped kind of make it seem
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understand at all, but we got
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She kept noticing out of the corner
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said, it seemed like a shadow
a person was walking in the room.

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And every time she would look,
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child, you just ignore and you
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Finally she noticed it for the third
time, and when she looked, there

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was a dark, all black being
walking towards her in that old almost horror

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movie, you know, stying with
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booga, you know, kind of
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and she started to scream, of
course, bloody murder. My great

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great grandfather tried to come in their
back door, which she told us.

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Our doors did not lock, We
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right, they would usually open themselves. He could not get in.

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He was trying to get into his
daughter. Finally he had gotten a cinder

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block and hit it so hard enough
times that he split it down the middle

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enough so he could look with one
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door, and she told us his
side that it turned around and looked at

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him and smiled at him, turned
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He finally had kicked the door open
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and by the time he got to
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this being, it dissipated like just
like smoke. And she kept saying,

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you know, like a word.
We didn't understand then, but was saying

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gin She was saying a gin ah. And he ended up when he kicked

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the door in. The door was
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he finally got in because the bottom
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away from the water being so close
to the home he had gotten a large

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piece of rotted wood wedged in his
leg. He got gangreen and died three

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days later. Oh good, So
that is a true story goes all the

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way back. I don't know if
they were farther stories of you know,

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paranormal It sounds you know, to
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if they don't lock in there,
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That's strange to me. So,
you know, that is the beginning of

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as far back as I am aware
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the majority on my mother's side,
which is the Leman East side cousins that

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have all talked about, you know, seeing strange things, beings like ghostly

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forms, shadow people. But the
real atomic bomb was what happened to me

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when I was fourteen years old in
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and my friends frequented. You know, Youngster in Ohio used to be one

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of the big steel makers in the
country. They they were, you know,

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big like Pittsburgh even and when the
steel industry fell out in America,

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Youngstown, Ohio was one of the
smaller cities that was hit mega hard by

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you know that, And so what
happened is through the years, you have

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these steel steel buildings, steel making
buildings, blast furnaces, other types of

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things that just you know, rusting
away. And one of my sites that

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I still see in my brain now
growing up driving over bridges going home or

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going to other suburbs outside of Youngstown, was looking at you know that,

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that that site of all those steel
mill buildings, just rusting away, thinking

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about, man, what it must
have looked like in its heyday when it

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was just roaring away. Now there
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area. Now they're newer companies.
They're running. I don't know the name

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of all three of them, but
where we used to go. Man,

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my friends, I had one of
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happened. It was the second week
of June in nineteen eighty seven. We

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had just gotten out of eighth grade. I was going to be a freshman

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in high school the next year.
Funnily enough, I had just done a

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documentary that David Wolf from ETS,
It's Exposing the Strange, will be releasing

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at the end of spring beginning of
summer, and he interviewed me about my

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experience, and one of the things
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up. He said, you know, man, he goes, I'm really

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curious what the phases of the moon
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for this one gentleman that's from southern
Ohio, his name's Rich mccannliss, who's

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had some experiences, and David himself
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had. And I said, well, let me look online. Let me

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see. Maybe we can look up
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the moony, and lo and behold, if you go on gold go and

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Google, of course there's everything.
You can look up certain years, weeks,

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phases of the moon. And I
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the second week. It was between
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day, and it just so happens
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full moon, almost full moon.
So take that for what it's worth.

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Going back to mythology and were wolves
and dogmen, so one of the four

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of us actually lived right across the
street from the steel mills, and what

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we would do is we'd meet at
his house. This day. It just

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happened to be four. A lot
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of us, and it just wouldn't
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day, and we went. It
would take about a half an hour to

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get to the Janet Blast Furnace,
which there is actually a video on YouTube

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in nineteen ninety seven when it was
demolished and taken down. So it lived

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all the way to nineteen ninety seven. And we like this area. I

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mean, you can just imagine miles
of buildings and you know, we we

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the Mahoning River. That is something
that I'll talk about, you know,

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in a little bit of what I
believe this thing may have been following.

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You always hear about cryptids and supernatural
things happening by bodies of water. While

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the Mahoning River is a river that
goes through Youngstown and surrounding areas. It

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also if you go over Google Maps, you could follow the Mahoning River all

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the way from downtown on Youngstown in
the area where the steel mills were or

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are now even the newer and it
takes you up to a metro park called

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Mill Creek Park. Makes you think, you know, if something was following

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that river all the way down to
those steel mills and back, definitely a

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place something of that type could hide. So we would go down there and

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we would be boys. We would
just go rummings around, we would go

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on adventures. We'd check all these
buildings out, very dangerous, dilapidated,

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falling apart, running upstairs that some
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Thank god, nothing ever happened to
any of us. Very dangerous in

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Youngstown in the days that I was
growing up there. Numerous times through the

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years, Youngstown has got unfortunate monikers
of Murdertown, USA for numerous times of

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you know, most murders in the
country per capita. It's not something you

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know, that we were proud of, but it's just something that happened.

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And during those times, there was
a lot of gang violence. You know,

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the mafia was still prevalent in Youngstown
for many, many years even and

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you know, people think they just
disappeared with the gangster movies and the forties

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and the fifties, and they were
still prevalent, and being down there was

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very dangerous. You had to watch
out for gang members, you had to

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watch out for strange cars, you
know, dropping off strange things down there,

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like you know, sheets filled with
something. And we'd stay away from

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things like that and you'd hear gunshots
down there every once in a while.

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But the thing that we really did
not want to mess with was wild dogs.

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And you have big cities that are
in bad shape in America right now,

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and people from certain cities now,
when you have large areas in cities

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with building that are becoming, you
know, tenements that they're knocking down,

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you get packs of wild dogs that
are domesticated animals that might have run away

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from home, given birth to pups. These dogs depend on each other.

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They run around in large groups five
to ten maybe more, and they are

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very dangerous. They will kill you. They are not camera fido types of

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dogs, and we would watch out
for them. So this one area we

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went to was again the Jannette Blast
Furnace, and we liked this building for

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numerous reasons. It gave us privacy. They had these I found out recently

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they were called milling shields. They
had hundreds of them. They had made

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and stored them in this building for
whatever reason, that had no stairs up

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into it, and we like that
because the dogs couldn't get up there if

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they came by. And we took
a bunch of these milling shields because on

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the first floor you had open wall. So obviously to get material in and

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out, they had open you know, walls on the first floor. If

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you walked into the first floor into
the center of the room, you could

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look all the way up. There
were four floors. They had the centers

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cut out of the floors on each
additional floor above, so there was like

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a half wall you could walk up
to on the third floor and look down

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and see everything. So we had
taken these milling shields and made makeshift walls,

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and we'd have fires in the center
of this building. Well, the

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evening that this occurred, we were
just kind of staring into the fire and

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we heard these wild dogs and we
went outside because they couldn't get up and

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get us. So we stood out
on this kind of concrete, kind of

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dilapidated, falling apart outcropping, and
you know, there was a railroad track

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that even if you google the picture
of old steel Mills Youngster in Ohio,

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one of the ones that always pops
up is the picture of the Jeanette blast

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furnace with this railroad track that shows
how close it was to the buildings,

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and obviously close for a reason.
The faery materials in and out. So

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we go out and these dogs run
by, I would say seven or more,

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and they run right by us.
They pay us no attention. Now,

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it was after nine thirty pm,
fully dark, and these dogs ran

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by the building and ran over the
railroad tracks. Just beyond the railroad tracks

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were big piles of coke, of
petty cooke, which they used in the

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steel making industry to purify the steel
and to make the fires hotter. And

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they had giant piles of these,
and they ran up one side and down

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the other. And what ensued next
is when the insanity all started. We

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started hearing fighting and biting and barking
and yelping, and dogs were literally coming

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over the top of this pile of
petticoke, being thrown in mid air like

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someone or something had grabbed them and
thrown them. And one of them was

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injured extremely bad, which I was
very upset about, bleeding all over the

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place. And we're talking dogs being
mid air butts towards us, so not

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like they were jumping in the air. They were thrown with great force.

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We started hearing more yelping and figured
out at first we had thought it might

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have been them fighting with each other
we heard a louder, deeper, more

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powerful noise, a roar, and
figured out something was over there too.

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Not long after the couple were thrown
over. The one that was injured got

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up and limped away and left the
trail of blood. The others went and

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ran back the way they came.
As we were staring at all of them

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running away, We're in total shock. One of my friends says, guys,

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what's that over there? And we
all turn and roughly I would say

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twenty twenty five feet from where we
were comes crawls to the top of this

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petticoat. Was the biggest largest creature
I have ever seen to date. I've

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seen every type of animal on the
earth. Now I'm not saying elephant size,

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but I'm telling you we all compared
for years what we thought at least

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comparative shape and size of what we
saw was. And first we noticed it

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was a giant wolf. I mean
a giant wolf so large that it looked

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and I've said this in every interview
I have ever given, and I will

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always say it, it looked fake. It looked like like it was fake

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out of a movie. It was
so large, and I thought I was

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dreaming and I started to say,
oh, I'm gonna wake up any second,

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and this is a dream, but
I didn't. And my friends told

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me they were thinking the same thing, and they didn't neither. And this

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thing was comparatively the size of the
biggest polar bear you had ever seen.

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It had the same type of build, very lean, very long. The

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limbs were long, its back legs
were shorter than the front, so it

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almost had a stance of like a
hyena, where the butt was dropped a

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little lower than the chest. And
it looked, for all intents and purposes,

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like a gigantic monster wolf. And
this thing lifted its leg and let

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us know that it was a boy, and it marked its territory, which

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made us scared. Because it was
so large, pieces of this material start

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flying in the air. You could
audibly hear this thing doing its business,

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and it scared my butt that was
behind me, and he took a couple

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steps back and tripped and fell into
that makeshift wall. And then it made

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that loud noise of metal on concrete, and we all froze. And this

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thing had not noticed us yet.
It stopped, it snapped its head and

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looked right at us, and the
first thing that happened we noticed was the

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eyes. The eyes I will take
to my grave. They were amber orange

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colored. They were like they had
a power source behind them. They were

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so bright. It was not eyeshine, it was something else. It was

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the I always say this now that
there were about four very supernatural types of

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things connected. This was number one
was the eyes. And you could see

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the pupils. You could see it
looking at us. They was so large,

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and it looked down the line at
us, and I felt when it's

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stopped and it looked right at me, and it looked me up and down,

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and it looked to my friend to
my left. It felt like it

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was looking through you. And then
it all of a sudden just roared at

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us the loudest I've never heard anything
like it. But it had a frequency

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to it, almost like if you
ever watch a video of crocodiles in water,

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you see the water jumping off their
back when they do that gurgle roar

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that they do in the water.
It sounded kind of like that, with

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a mix of a bear and a
wolf and a lion. And we physically

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physically felt it. I felt it
go through my chest. I felt things

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shake, I almost went down on
my knees. I had myself bent over,

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but my head up staring at the
animal. I did not want to

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take my eyes off of it.
My other three friends, my best friend,

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my rights set. He felt like
he was weak. The two on

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the end, one was down and
was gagging. The other on the other

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end said he felt like he was
going to pass out. And then it

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took one other step towards just the
walls of reality shattering, paradigm shift,

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and this thing went from four legs
to two, doubled its size and height,

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and all of a sudden, it
took a couple steps, and it

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was halfway towards us, and two
steps and we were staring for all intents

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and purposes, what we had been
told our entire lives had not existed is

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all myth and comic books and movies
and books. It's fake. Monsters aren't

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real, and we are staring for
real at A werewolf is the only name

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we could give it. Then.
There was nothing known a dog man back

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then, and this thing was gigantic, and we had fumbled our way into

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the building because it was coming towards
us. And I don't know why,

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but we went up to the third
floor where we stopped, and we were

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looking at the opening to where we
had come in, and one of my

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friends was completely having a mental breakdown
and we had to shut him up.

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I almost caused him to pass out
because I grabbed him and had my hand

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around him. I had lifted him
off the ground to shut him up.

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And finally we got him to shut
up and begged him if we if we

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let you go, will you just
stop? And he shook his head.

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As soon as I set him down, he took a deep breath of air

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because he couldn't breathe. And you
hear thump, scratch, scratch, scratch,

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scratch scratch, the noise of like
dogs nails on concrete, and we

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all knew immediately what that meant that
it was coming in. So it made

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its way into this building and we're
looking down on it, roughly another I

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would say, twenty feet above looking
down at it, and this thing was

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completely jet black, the largest animal
again, back on all fours. The

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eyes were shining. It looked,
it moved and put its head towards the

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wall. It looked towards the wall. It was sniffing the air, and

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its eyes caused the far wall to
even glow the color of its eyes,

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So that's how we knew this was
no eye shine. This was something from

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internal going on. And this thing
had a white stripe going down the back

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of its neck all the way to
its tail. It had muscles everywhere.

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You could see the scapula on its
back lifting up and down like a big

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cat. It walked towards the fire, and something else supernatural happened. Two

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of us noticed that, me and
my best friend to my right. It

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walked towards the fire, which we
had to stand at least fifteen feet at

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least away from this fire we had
made. It was walking a foot away

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from it, did not bother it. It brought its left front arm up

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and down, which it had a
hand I had noticed, not a paw,

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And when it set it down next
to the fire, the entire arm

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from the bottom of the ground where
its hand hit the ground up to its

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shoulder went. And if you've seen
the movie Predator before, where the being

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cloaks, that is what its arm
did. It was still visible, you

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could still tell that the arm was
there, but it was cloaked. It

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was almost completely invisible, and the
fire did something strange the fire reached out

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and and wrapped around the arm,
and it made almost like when you look

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at the sun video of the Sun
of magnetic storms and anomalies on the surface

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of the Sun. It had rings
going around it, and it had strained

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shapes that were jutting out towards its
arm. Just for three four seconds and

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then it went back to normal.
It just went blank. The fire shot

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back to where it was, It
stopped acting strange, and then all of

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a sudden, it was smelling the
air and it snapped its head up and

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it saw us, and it was
foaming at the mouth. It had saliva

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dripping down. You could hear it
hitting the floor. It got back up

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on two legs and it threw its
arms out to its side, and it

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threw that roar at us, which
we had found out was infrasound, which

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animals on Earth utilized. That.
Predators utilized that to discombobulate their prey.

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They use it to jiggle the inside
the blood and the other fluids. It

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jiggles the organs so that they're out
of it, so that they're easier prey.

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Whales do it to have their songs
heard farther. Elephants can do it

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well. This thing had used it
on us outside and caused a lot of

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confusion and sickness when it did it. Inside the building, we had a

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half wall of concrete in front of
us and a couple floors of concrete up,

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and it was looking up at us. We believe the reason we didn't

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get sick again is the concrete buffered
that for us. But you want to

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talk about loud. We were inside
of a building. It was loud outside.

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We grabbed our ears, turns our
head away and it had literally hurt

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our ears when it roared, and
it looked at us, and it looked

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at the stairs which was to its
right, and it looked at us again,

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and then it shot down on all
fours and ran for those stairs,

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and we knew it was coming for
us. Two of my friends had ran

411
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,519
out. There was no way down. I ran. If you had one

412
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:12,639
way out, that was down the
stairs. We came up. It was

413
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,480
now coming up those stairs. There
was a fire escape outside where from the

414
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:23,559
second floor down it had rusted and
broken and fallen away, so it was

415
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,039
not there. You could take the
rest of it to the top of the

416
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,519
roof, and you were stuck up
on the roof. My other friend ran

417
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:36,800
for that. My one friend ran
for the stairs outside, ran to the

418
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,559
roof. My other friend ran to
the fourth floor, which had a small

419
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,880
set of stairs that led to an
access short flight of stairs to the roof

420
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,480
as well. They left. I
was frozen solid. I could not move.

421
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:54,119
I was petrified, so was my
friend to my right. And this

422
00:34:54,159 --> 00:35:00,440
thing is running up the stairs so
quickly that there's really no way to explained.

423
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,039
And I'm starting to sweat right now, like if we're on if I

424
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:07,519
was on camera, you would see
I usually sweat when I talk about this.

425
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:13,920
I have physical issues. I start
to go back there, and this

426
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,679
thing started coming up, and uh, it got to the point where it

427
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,519
had made its way up to where
it was starting to come up the last

428
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:29,440
flight of stairs where it would reach
me. I would be the first person

429
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,280
that would run into and I had
not my It wasn't really my life that

430
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:40,480
flashed before my eyes. It was
just an ultra fast thought of my family,

431
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:46,800
my friends, my dog playing football
the next year at the Catholic school

432
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,440
I was going to be going to. My dad had played there. Like

433
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:53,559
it just happened, like like flipping
like cards, real quick, big bing

434
00:35:53,599 --> 00:36:00,159
babing bang, and I realized at
that moment that I was going to I

435
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,280
truly mean this, I one hundred
percent knew in my heart that I was

436
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,800
going to die. We were all
going to be killed, and no one

437
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,840
would ever see us or know what
happened to us. Again, and I

438
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:22,119
was petrified. I could not move, and this thing got within five to

439
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:27,880
six feet from us, and it
tensed up. And I remember, right

440
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,800
this second, I can see it. It had its eyes locked on mine

441
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:37,679
and its muscles tensed, and it
was ready to pounce. And I will

442
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:43,480
always believe this to the day I
die, that I not only have one,

443
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:49,320
I have multiple guardian angels because there
was divine intervention. And just as

444
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,599
that thing was ready to pounce,
the train, a train came by the

445
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:58,079
outside of the building and he laid
on his horn. And the only reason

446
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:02,480
we believe he did that was because
we had a very big fire going inside

447
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:07,960
that building that night, and we
think he saw that fire and he just

448
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:14,360
did it to let people know or
whatever. But he had never no train

449
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:19,000
had ever come by saw us and
done that before. Well, there was

450
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:22,559
a reason this night, and he
did it, and he laid on it,

451
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:25,280
and this animal stopped five to six
feet from me. I could see

452
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,880
it clear as day. It was
lit up bright as day because of the

453
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,400
fire, and it was doing a
back and forth, looking at me,

454
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:39,960
looking at the opening of the building. It was deciding what to do.

455
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,239
And finally, the last time it
looked back forth, back forth. The

456
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,639
third time, it did this real
quick double take, and it growled at

457
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,920
me, almost like damn you,
and it turned around and it left.

458
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,760
It started to run out of the
building, and it made its way down

459
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,360
from where we were on the third
floor to the top of the last flight

460
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:07,400
of stairs which would take it out
the building, which was the second floor,

461
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:14,159
down the first and this is where
the last paranormal thing happened. As

462
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:20,159
it was going down that last set
of stairs, it had quickly gone from

463
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,079
You could see every muscle moving.
It had very short hair, by the

464
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:29,480
way, only an inch inch and
a half, very almost like it was

465
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,599
groomed. It was clean. I
didn't notice any smell, none of us.

466
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,159
You know, people talk about bigfoot
and other things stink, and only

467
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,519
smell we noticed was the fire burning. This thing looked like it was taken

468
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:49,159
care of. It looked like it
was clean, and it was just streamline

469
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:55,000
made for the ultimate predator, and
it actually moved beautifully. I know that

470
00:38:55,119 --> 00:39:00,400
sounds strange. One thing I left
that when it headed up the stairs,

471
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,559
it did something. It was heading
up the stairs, it was turning to

472
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:08,239
the right, so its right side
of its body was going towards the wall

473
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,480
as it was turning to go up
the stairs, and its tail, which

474
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:19,960
looked like a cougar or panther's tail, very thick, super short hair,

475
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:24,360
had turned to the left, almost
like it was utilizing it as a rudder,

476
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:30,440
like a counterweight as it turned.
It was very strange, very noticeable.

477
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:34,039
Well, as it had gone down
and it was leaving this building,

478
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,760
no longer was there any feet hitting
stairs. There wasn't any muscles being seen.

479
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:46,199
It had turned into this basically amorphous
black mass of a shadow type of

480
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,000
being. You could still see a
little bit of the ears. It had

481
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:54,719
long ears when it was really you
know, noticeable, but all you could

482
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,360
see was a little bit of a
muzzle left a couple points on the top

483
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,159
of where ed used to be,
and then just kind of these little shapy

484
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,280
things like almost like knubs underneath it
where the legs were hitting the stairs.

485
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:15,039
It turned into a black, amorphous
mass and left the building in the blink

486
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,960
of an eye, like you took
a flashlight and put your hand in front

487
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,440
of it and went real fast and
waved your hand. It just went bow

488
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,840
gone. And this train is going
and it is getting farther, and man,

489
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,559
my best friend are screaming, help, please, God, someone help

490
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:38,960
us. The other two had heard
us screaming for help and heard the train

491
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,280
and had made their way down.
I'll never forget my one buddy because out

492
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,519
of four of us, only two
of us are still alive, and God

493
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:53,239
rest their souls. And my one
buddy that's still alive, who has major

494
00:40:53,960 --> 00:41:00,360
psychological issues to this day. He
didn't talk for weeks after the I remember

495
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,079
seeing his face when he came down. I turn and looked at him.

496
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:09,800
As we're screaming for someone to help
us. He had this this half smile

497
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,800
on his face. It was almost
like we're going to be saved. We're

498
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,079
going to be saved, Oh my
God, and then he started you know,

499
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:21,920
it was this, but it was
just an empty feeling because this train

500
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:27,920
kept going and going and getting quieter
and quieter, and then all of a

501
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,599
sudden, all we could hear is
the crackling of the wood in the building,

502
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:36,119
and all we thought was, this
thing is coming back. It's going

503
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,239
to come back in this building,
and it's going to kill all four of

504
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,400
us, and we're going to watch
each of us be murdered and no one

505
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,079
will see us again. And it
didn't come back in, thank god.

506
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:52,079
But you want to talk about the
longest hour and a half of making our

507
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:58,519
way from the third floor down to
the first was the most nightmarish hour and

508
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:04,480
a half on earth other than what
was coming up. And we made it

509
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,800
down to the first floor, and
it was now just before me. It

510
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,800
had to be eleven thirty quarter to
twelve somewhere in between. And there eleven

511
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:20,800
thirty midnight where we are fourteen year
old boys in no one knows where we

512
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:27,119
are in Youngstown, Ohio, where
police would not be caught at this hour

513
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,400
by themselves, and you have four
babies basically down in one of the most

514
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:37,880
dangerous areas in Youngstown, and it
was horrifying, and I finally said we

515
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,480
have to go, We have to
go. We kept looking out if we

516
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:45,719
could see those eyes shining in the
distance, and I get kids not out

517
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,280
that we have to go. It's
going to come back, and my one

518
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,239
friend who had lost it multiple times
is absolutely gone, had he checked out.

519
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,440
All he's doing is screaming, God
help us. I just want to

520
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,039
go home. Now, I'm calmly
telling you what he's saying. He is,

521
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:07,519
I want my parents. I just
want to go home. God help

522
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,880
us. We're going to have to
stay here. It's going to get us.

523
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,840
We can't leave the bill and I
finally grabbed him and I said,

524
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,280
you listen to me. You're either
going to come with us or you're going

525
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,440
to stay in this building alone,
and you're going to die because this thing

526
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:30,400
is coming back tonight and I won't
be here when it comes back, and

527
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:34,719
neither will they. And he's begging
me, Matt, please, please don't

528
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,039
do this. Please, And we
said goodbye, I'm leaving. Are you

529
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:42,920
coming? And we made him.
He grabbed the back of my shirt,

530
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:46,199
in the back of my best friend's
shirt, and you know, choking us.

531
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,599
And we pulled his butt from that
building. And now that was the

532
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:55,119
worst because it took a half an
hour to get from the Jeanette blast furnace

533
00:43:55,159 --> 00:44:00,159
to my buddy's house who lived across
route for twenty two. Youngstoin Warren Road

534
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:07,079
in Youngstown, which was the main
highway strip that separated his house from the

535
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:14,760
still Mill entrance. And we heard
every rock week kicked. Every time we

536
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,000
heard any noise leaves the wind pick
up. We would stop and look to

537
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:23,039
see if this thing was coming behind
us. And we made it to the

538
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:29,760
last part, which when we would
enter this area you could enter standing up.

539
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:36,239
You would go down this huge mountainous
hill of just like gravel like driveway

540
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,320
gravel almost, and you would turn
your your feet kind of sideways and walk

541
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,639
down standing up. But you couldn't
do that standing up leaving you had to

542
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:50,760
go up on all fours. Now
ninety five percent of the time when this

543
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,679
wasn't this event, we would laugh
at each other. We would make fun

544
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,880
of each other because everyone would always
have it give out, but beneath them

545
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:04,360
you'd slide. Ah man, everyone, haha, you want a nightmare?

546
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,679
Screaming is it behind us? Is
it behind me? Is it behind me?

547
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:15,360
Losing your footing. We finally exhaustingly
got to the top, pouring sweat,

548
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,079
covered in dirt, crying our eyes
out, horrified. Made it.

549
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,159
Me and my one friend made it
to the top. We laid on our

550
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:27,159
stomachs and stuck our arms out to
help our last two buddies get up,

551
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:31,079
and we got across the street finally
to his house. His family wasn't home,

552
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:35,719
and we drank water from his hose. I always say this. I

553
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,159
don't know why. I just remember
drinking the water from the hose, and

554
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:43,280
I got sick. I drank so
much, and I just kept drinking and

555
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,719
drinking. My mind was just I
just kept seeing this thing staring at me.

556
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,360
And we all drank, and then
we sat. I sat on the

557
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,920
porch, another sat on the stairs. Two sat in the yard and you

558
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,639
could see the tip of the Jeannette
last furnace from his yard, but again

559
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,239
it was so far away you couldn't
see the actual place. So we just

560
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,000
sat there. I mean, I
bet it was forty five minutes. We

561
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:14,239
sat there, and we did not
say a word. We were in shock

562
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,000
and we just stared, and finally
we realized, my god, I mean,

563
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:22,519
it's got to be one o'clock in
the morning. They must think we're

564
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:27,559
dead. So we made it to
my best friend's house, where his dad

565
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,599
was waiting for us with his mom, and we walked in. He didn't

566
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:37,360
expect to see all four of us
and saw us completely falling apart, a

567
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,599
mess, and he went nuts on
us, where have you been? What

568
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,559
is going on? What did you
do? Who did you do it too?

569
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:51,119
He thought we got in trouble.
We were being chased, you know,

570
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,039
like we we like robbed somebody or
something, and we told them what

571
00:46:55,159 --> 00:47:00,119
happened. I guess wasn't going to
expect that we were We saw a werewolf.

572
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:07,679
Yeah, correct, And that's what
we started saying. We saw this

573
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:13,559
creature down and we were in the
steel mills. And he really went off

574
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:17,320
about that. What do you mean
you were down the steel mills? He

575
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,760
worked for the city. I'm not
going to out my buddy. He passed

576
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,039
away. I'm not going to out
his dad. It's not hard any of

577
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:29,599
my friends and people that here that
they know who my best friend was,

578
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:34,079
they know what his dad did.
He was basically in charge of everything.

579
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,760
He knew where we were. When
we told him, he actually didn't even

580
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,320
react. And we told him the
creature we saw. His mom called us

581
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:51,360
crazy and went to bed and basically
in a nutshell. Not getting all of

582
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,039
the other details. You can get
all the details you want. There's two

583
00:47:54,119 --> 00:48:00,599
videos. I recommend The most extremely
detailed interview ever given is by my good

584
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:07,679
friend Josh Ninochio. His channel is
what Lurks Beneath. I did an interview

585
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,320
there. It's got almost two million
views in five months. Then on my

586
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,840
channel Planet four twelve, my very
first video, the true story of Matt

587
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,880
apsh You'll get a lot of it, but basically in a nutshell. A

588
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,440
week later, my buddy got his
dad cornered, and his dad told him,

589
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,360
for all intents and purposes, that
he knew what we were talking about.

590
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:36,800
That officers had gotten calls about this
thing before or one like it,

591
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,360
some of them had even seen it, and that there are workers and people

592
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,199
down there that have seen this thing. Now, there were also homeless people

593
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,679
that frequented that downtown area. There
were two that died in a three year

594
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:59,119
span that when this occurred for us, and there was rumor that he even

595
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,880
said that we're not even sure if
this thing killed those two homeless people.

596
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,199
They told everybody it was the dogs, but he thinks that it was something

597
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:14,960
else. So he threatened us,
along with my father, who showed up.

598
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,079
And you want to talk about scared, and you know ken you know,

599
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:22,360
he's no longer here my dad's name
was Ken. Getting a call Matt's

600
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:28,400
here at almost two a m.
And he walked in, and you know,

601
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:34,320
it was a mess, and it
was insane, and I I really

602
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,880
had major issues. I still to
this day have issues dealing with it.

603
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,400
I sought out the priest at my
church and I'll even say the name of

604
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,639
it. I'm half Lebanese. It's
a Maronite Catholic church called Saint Marin's in

605
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,400
Youngstown, Ohio. I went to
talk to the priest to tell him what

606
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,920
happened. I fully expected him to
not believe me, and he one hundred

607
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,400
percent believed me and told me,
Matthew, and this is like quote Matthew,

608
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:08,039
Sometimes things bleed into our universe and
our reality. Sometimes we come across

609
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:14,000
them, and sometimes we don't,
and if we do, occasionally they come

610
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:21,039
after us. He mentioned people being
possessed and having the groups from Rome,

611
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:27,760
the top notch exorcisms that they have
that are sent to the four corners of

612
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,400
the world. And he believed that
what we saw was a demon and that

613
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:37,360
is what happened that night in the
steel mills of Youngstown, Ohio. Thank

614
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:43,639
God, there was some confirmation from
other people that they had seen something.

615
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:46,920
I mean that in the midst of
all the terror and the fear, that

616
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,480
must have been something that was at
least slightly positive. It was, you

617
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:57,320
know, and since I've come out, you know, I had planned on

618
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,360
taking that to the grave. You
know. They really put the fear of

619
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,800
Goddess. My dad, his dad. You know, you guys are going

620
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:08,239
to the Catholic school. We went
to a high school called Youngstown Ursuline High

621
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:15,519
School, a Catholic school and you
know, really really good private school with

622
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,719
incredible education in athletics. And I
couldn't wait the plays, like you think

623
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,920
that that coach will want a crazy
football player who saw where we would they

624
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,480
put the fear of Goddess not to
talk about this, that we would be

625
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:36,360
the jokes of Youngstown to where old
bag men walking the streets talking to ourselves.

626
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,760
That's the image they portrayed to us. They were so afraid of us

627
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:45,360
telling everybody and then other people going
down there and being killed, not just

628
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,480
because of this thing, because the
buildings were falling apart. We'd be in

629
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:54,480
buildings sometimes and you get giant widow
maker pieces of concrete that would drop from

630
00:51:54,519 --> 00:52:01,239
the ceiling. We were not supposed
to be there. And you know what

631
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:07,400
happened in April of twenty twenty two
is I've had thirty surgeries in my lifetime.

632
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:13,760
I've had a near death experience where
I had an incredible near death experience.

633
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,719
I had my right leg amputated in
April of twenty twenty two. I

634
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:25,639
had many surgeries on my knee from
football. My career was ended prematurely because

635
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:32,119
of surgeries to my leg damaging.
I was alignment. I have loopus advanced

636
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:37,760
loopus, which has caused issues with
having surgeries in the surgeries not healing right,

637
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:43,320
so other surgeries have to happen.
And then here we are thirty thirty

638
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,360
later, and I had complications to
a couple and they had to take my

639
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:53,920
right leg below the knee, and
I had the artery blow not long after

640
00:52:54,639 --> 00:53:00,960
the amputation because I had phoned a
couple times in an opening had formed,

641
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:07,079
the sutures had torn, and I
bled out with in my wife's front seat

642
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,800
of her car with my fourteen year
old daughter at the time in the back

643
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:16,159
seat, and my heart stopped for
over ninety seconds on my way to the

644
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:22,000
hospital, and I saw my mother
and father. My dad died eleven years

645
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:27,760
ago from pancreatic cancer, and my
mother died five years ago, ironically to

646
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,920
advanced loopus, and I bled out. I remember telling my it says,

647
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,360
there's a longer story to this,
but but I bled out. In the

648
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:43,760
car they finally got you know,
people were helping a doctor had pulled over

649
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,800
people. There was an ex combat
medic at the gas station we pulled into.

650
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,079
They were trying to get it to
stop. And I lost over two

651
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:54,239
and a half pints of blood in
the car and lost consciousness on the way

652
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:59,559
of the hospital. My heart stopped
for over ninety seconds, and I remember

653
00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:02,679
telling my wife and daughter before I
lost consciousness, I knew I was dying,

654
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,719
and I told them I'm sorry,
and I'll always remember hearing my daughter

655
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,960
screamed, daddy, and no,
my wife saying, Matt, no,

656
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,840
no, no. I saw black
and I was standing, I had my

657
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,920
leg I was not looking at a
bright light or anything like that. I

658
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:30,480
was in a big field and there
were thousands of people around me, facing

659
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:35,360
me, turned away, looking in
other directions, and they were all one

660
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:38,719
hundred percent of them, like a
camera out of focus. I could not

661
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,440
see any of them, just that
there were people there. Some were staring

662
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:49,559
right at me, and I got
an immensely strong feeling to look over my

663
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:58,679
right shoulder. I turned over my
right shoulder and I saw, I saw

664
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:06,400
my mom and dad and it was
them. And I'm telling you, I

665
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,960
don't want to die, but I
know for a fact that there is something

666
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:15,239
after we go. And it was
my mother and father, and I hugged

667
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:20,960
and kissed them and said, how
is this possible? And my dad didn't

668
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,960
talk, he just smiled and put
his arm around me. He's a big

669
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,440
guy like me, six foot four
and then a big burly guy. And

670
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,639
my mother's little she was a little
four foot nine Elevenese woman, and she

671
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,000
was staring at me, and I
told her, how is this possible?

672
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:42,199
How is this possible? And I'm
bawling and she actually started crying and I

673
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,559
said, I miss you. I
love you. She said, we miss

674
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,920
you and love you too, honey. I kept saying, repeating, how

675
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,119
is this possible? And she just
said, honey, we love you,

676
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:58,320
and she said the old line you
hear everybody here. We're so happy to

677
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,119
see you, baby, but you
can't stay. You have to go.

678
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,239
And I got angry and I said
I won't say what I said, I

679
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:10,840
said, Bowl, you know what, I'm not going anywhere. You need

680
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,800
to explain to me. How is
this possible that I am seeing you two

681
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:22,360
here? And I had this extreme
sense of just I wanted to stay,

682
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,440
and she said it's not your time. You have to go. And I

683
00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:30,880
argued, and she touched my right
cheek my left cheek with her right hand,

684
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,760
and I saw a flash of light. And I was laying on the

685
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:45,400
operating table at Trumbull Memorial Hospital where
the general surgeon is a woman. Oh

686
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:54,159
geez, please let me remember her
name. Oh well, I can't remember

687
00:56:54,159 --> 00:57:00,000
her name. I feel horrible right
now. But the surgeon was standing over

688
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:05,440
for me and she put her hand
on my forehead. I was shaking horribly

689
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:08,760
from the blood loss, and she
told me, we're going to try and

690
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,599
take care of you. Little did
I know they had just told my wife,

691
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:17,239
Stacy, that they probably will never
see me again. So I survived.

692
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,440
I lived. That really happened,
and that is the number one reason

693
00:57:24,519 --> 00:57:31,800
that I decided to tell the experience. It just you know, I said,

694
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,880
I'm not going to hide this anymore. You know, this is something

695
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,079
that's real. These type of beings
exists. It's not fake. It's not.

696
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:45,400
It's not mythology. It really occurred, and I'm going to talk about

697
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:52,599
it. And I have since then
have countless people that have contacted me in

698
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:58,639
every way possible, and the majority
of the people that I've gotten contacted by

699
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:04,159
are people that are older in their
lives that have said to me, thank

700
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:10,880
you so much for doing this.
I was going to take it to my

701
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:16,639
grave what had occurred to me.
And because of what you did, I

702
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:23,639
am going to tell my experience to
people as well. And I have been

703
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:30,960
in contact with people that have worked
down there that have said to me that

704
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:36,440
they have had experiences down there that
they've heard growling in the in the forest

705
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:42,079
area. They've seen strange lights like
orange orbs, two of them, which

706
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:45,880
again, think of the eyes.
I was going to ask about what you

707
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,920
know in these areas. Sometimes it's
not just cryptids. There's other things that

708
00:58:50,039 --> 00:58:53,239
happen so there they are orbs and
so forth, and anything else that people

709
00:58:53,280 --> 00:59:00,079
have witnessed down there. Yeah,
Guys that have have called and told me

710
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:05,039
on messenger on Facebook messenger, are
you the Matt emsh you know from Youngstown,

711
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:07,119
Ohio dog man story? Yes,
I am, you know, I

712
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:10,360
just want to tell you I work
security. This was just a few months

713
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,679
ago down you know where it is
now, and you know, we have

714
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:22,000
been paralleled by something in the woods
down there. When we're doing our rounds

715
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,519
by the railroad tracks. Where we
start to walk, it walks, we

716
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:34,480
stop, it stops. We've heard
deep growling. We've seen two orange colored

717
00:59:34,679 --> 00:59:40,079
orbs just inside the tree line.
And then when we go to try and

718
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:46,719
investigate, you hear something running away
and it's gone. So definitely I have

719
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:53,400
been contacted. I've also been contacted
by an ex Youngstown police officer who I'm

720
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:59,039
trying to at least do an interview
with me where I can at least,

721
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:04,199
you know, hide him. He's
not ready for it yet, he said,

722
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:07,159
give me some time. But you
know that's not something usually police officers

723
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:15,719
do. So I have had numbers
of people reach out and uh it really

724
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,199
as you had said before, it
must make me feel better. You cannot

725
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:28,320
imagine what I felt when my best
friend told me that his dad knew what

726
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,480
we were talking about. Oh yeah, that's that's amazing. Let's pause for

727
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:36,119
just a second. I want to
do a station identification. You are listening

728
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:40,000
to the high strangeness factor copyrighted on
the Paranormal UK Radio Network. Today we

729
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:46,599
are talking to Matt emsh about his
bizarre cryptid encounter, dog Matt Encounter and

730
01:00:46,719 --> 01:00:53,440
other experiences. Uh Andy, Susie, you guys still there? Yes,

731
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,000
I think I think we're all all
blown away. Do you guys have any

732
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:05,239
questions for Matt at this point?
My god, where'd you begin? Incredible

733
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,159
experience? So all four of you
all saw this, whatever it is,

734
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,599
I believe from everything, yes,
and all four saws. From everything I

735
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:19,440
have done research to this day and
everything that I've learned till now. You

736
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,360
can imagine since me starting my channel
plan at four twelve, the number of

737
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:30,400
people have reached out and the research
over the years one hundred percent. What

738
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:34,559
we saw was what they call it
dog Man. Yes, and we all

739
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:39,320
four saw it. That is absolutely
incredible. If you were saying one point

740
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:44,360
there about the ardea of this coming
from another reality, which has always been

741
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,239
my position this sort of thing is
occasionally these things sort of bleed across from

742
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,280
other realms of existence, rather than
sort of the classic demon from hell or

743
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,920
whatever. This is that kind of
being that Again, I've said this before.

744
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,920
They've present themselves in certain ways that
we can relate to and understand,

745
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,679
and so it's interesting that it came
in that particular form. I mean,

746
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,639
I suppose my question would be,
would you say it was predetermined that was

747
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:09,519
what it looked like, or that
it could take other forms to other people?

748
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:13,960
You know what's it's funny you bring
that up. Very good. I

749
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,840
applaud you. You know. One
of the things I've been talking a lot

750
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:22,280
on my show with people is there
is a young lady who had an experience

751
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:29,559
with a dog man in the eighties
in Wisconsin by I'm sure everyone will recognize

752
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:34,559
it, Bray Road, the Brave
Road Beast. She went to a summer

753
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:39,960
camp and she saw a dog man
across a pond, and not the smartest

754
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,000
thing to do the next night,
kind of like what the people in the

755
01:02:44,039 --> 01:02:49,559
horror movies do they do what no
one really should. She went off by

756
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:55,480
herself and she went to the area
where she saw this dog man. And

757
01:02:55,559 --> 01:03:00,000
when she went into the area,
she was looking around and lo and bee,

758
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:07,800
she notices a big basketball sized red
orb floating in the exact same area

759
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,800
and she starts, it's moving away
from her, and she said, it

760
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,320
just looked like it was just indiscriminately
floating. And she starts to walk after

761
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:22,159
it and steps on a branch and
snap, this thing stops. And she

762
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,920
said, even though it was the
same around, it seemed like it stopped

763
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:31,119
and turned and looked at her.
And then as it looked at her,

764
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:37,800
she started to walk towards it,
and it jutted real quick and zip zip

765
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:43,119
zip app gone, And she had
the thought in the belief and I do

766
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,719
too, that this was the same
being. I think that some of these

767
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:53,360
things have the ability to change into
different forms. And I'm not talking skin

768
01:03:53,480 --> 01:04:00,480
walker here. I'm talking beings like
you just mentioned. They're coming from parallel

769
01:04:00,679 --> 01:04:05,719
worlds, other dimensions, which I
firmly believe this creature came from. I

770
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:12,480
don't think it was There was no
sign of natural anything. And I think

771
01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:16,880
that it has the ability to,
for whatever you know, reason or purpose,

772
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,760
if the people maybe that are looking
at it, to look into their

773
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:25,440
their hearts and minds and say,
well, this is the form that would

774
01:04:25,519 --> 01:04:28,079
really scare the hell out of them. You know, I'm going to use

775
01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:32,199
this, yes, absolutely, absolutely, Oh go ahead, Erdy. I

776
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:33,760
was just going to say, it
seems to be a lot of my own

777
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,679
reasearch suggested quite a common thing that
a ball of lights the first thing you

778
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:43,000
notice a specificant way of then it's
often changed to something else, or the

779
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:46,519
ball like itself becomes is just scary. Even it's just a light, it's

780
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:51,159
something about the light itself is very
very frightening and uncomfortable. And then yeah,

781
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,519
what happens. It takes something from
our subconscious and because the form into

782
01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:59,760
something if it's trying to sort of
scare or maybe scared or just try to

783
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,920
keep get you to keep the hell
away from it, so it becomes something

784
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,679
terrifying to you, so you won't
approach it. But it wants you,

785
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,199
want to keep you the distance anyway, So that's why it does it.

786
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:13,440
But what you describe it straight of
a horror film, it's amazing. It

787
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:18,400
was unreal. And when your friend
slipped and made that noise, I mean,

788
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:27,079
that's classic horror film screenplay stuff.
It was a moment that all of

789
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:30,280
us like, we can laugh about
it now, but when he did it,

790
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,159
even the creature it snapped, it
said, and everybody, it was

791
01:05:34,199 --> 01:05:39,960
a frozen and dime moment. It
did not know we were there. It

792
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:44,599
had us. It had a split
moment of whoa, Where the heck did

793
01:05:44,599 --> 01:05:49,039
these guys come from? You know, like and we all went, you

794
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:54,519
know, and oh no, hey, here we go drive through a restaurant.

795
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,000
Yes, yes, yes, I
have a question. A lot of

796
01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:02,119
people, uh feel that these things, while they accept their existence, are

797
01:06:02,159 --> 01:06:06,920
firmly believe that they are flesh and
blood and are uncomfortable with the high strangeness

798
01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:13,480
aspects. Have you gotten any pushback
from anybody because your situation. I mean,

799
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,920
when you talk about this thing transforming
into sort of an amorphous shadow or

800
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:24,079
block, I mean obviously that's outside
the realm of flesh and blood. Absolutely,

801
01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:26,880
And I've had you know, you
can imagine, you know, the

802
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:32,880
thousands of letters that I've gotten,
our comments on Planet four twelves, email

803
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:36,920
and just on videos I've done.
We're people, you know, they give

804
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,920
their own opinion, and I always
say the same thing everyone. I respect

805
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:48,039
everyone's right to their own opinion.
I believe that there are different kinds of

806
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:54,199
beings out there. I think there
are some dog men that are of a

807
01:06:54,360 --> 01:07:02,039
natural sort that don't have any paranormali
at ease or anything. Maybe the government

808
01:07:02,119 --> 01:07:08,400
got their hands on one of these
and did some mojo or just like the

809
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,960
Soviet Union did in World War Two
where they were trying to make a super

810
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,039
soldier, and they were trying to
combine apes with human DNA. You hear

811
01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:23,679
about the monkey Man in India where
their country was supposedly trying to combine like

812
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:30,440
baboon DNA with human DNA to make
super soldiers. Who knows what our government

813
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,280
has done and created. So I
fully respect some people saying that, oh,

814
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,159
that it's got to be natural,
But if you would have seen what

815
01:07:40,239 --> 01:07:45,679
we saw, you would know for
a fact there's no question it was nothing

816
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:51,880
else but supernatural. And I have
had countless people reach out to me telling

817
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:57,280
me of their Now I will say
two things. Anyone that knows me well,

818
01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:01,960
I say, experiences for things that
I believe can be or are true,

819
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,239
and stories for things that are just
you know, now you can say

820
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,320
a story is a true story,
too, I separate them. So I've

821
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:16,800
heard a lot of cringe worthy stories, and I've heard some very very convincing

822
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:24,399
experiences that are similar in some ways
to what I've heard. This thing,

823
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:30,760
I forgot to mention, had had
hands, very huge, giant hands that

824
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:36,800
looked like that look like raccoon hands. That's the exact same shape they were,

825
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:44,479
but just giant. If you go
to a channel called Sketching Encounters by

826
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,960
Sabylla Irwin, amazing human being.
I worked with her for over a year.

827
01:08:49,119 --> 01:08:54,720
She's a graphic artist, sketch artist. And if you want to know

828
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,640
what I saw, the best way
to compare. And you know, obviously

829
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,399
we can't go back in time and
take pictures, But if you go to

830
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:09,239
Sybylla Irwin's YouTube channel Sketching Encounters and
my videos on there, you will see

831
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:14,880
basically what I saw with my friends. You know, I've been out to

832
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:19,399
Lee Hample's farm, and of course
Lee Hample is just a stone show from

833
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:26,239
Bray Road, and you know the
story. Yes, and another friend of

834
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:29,439
the show, a lady that's a
a guest co host, Brandy, and

835
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:34,399
I saw a couple times were there
and saw this incredible show of photographs,

836
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:41,880
thousands of anomalies he's captured on film, where you've got strange technology in the

837
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,920
air, you've got some kind of
beast on the ground that acts like a

838
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,279
beast, eats roadkill, eats bait, but it's somehow cloaked for the most

839
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:55,359
part, with these cameras and the
and the footprints show up in the middle

840
01:09:55,399 --> 01:09:59,399
of nowhere split into two. I
mean, it's just just bizarre. And

841
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:04,000
when we were there that night,
a Brandy's truck started the lights started to

842
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,439
flash, but it was parked there
at the farm, like as if you

843
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:14,159
were hitting a lock unlock remote button. And even she said when she went

844
01:10:14,199 --> 01:10:18,079
to the motel she stayed at it's
one of these where the doors right on

845
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:21,239
the outside with the window, and
her truck was by the window. The

846
01:10:21,279 --> 01:10:26,079
thing was flashing off and out all
night, just from being on Lee Hample's

847
01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:30,720
farm. So that and by the
way, Susie, do you want to

848
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,680
get in here and ask any questions? So I did do a little bit

849
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:42,880
of homework before the show, and
I think that Youngstown might qualify as a

850
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:50,119
window area. Definitely a high strangeness
area. Agree. I found all kinds

851
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:57,000
of stories there are. It seemed
to be a lot of strange occurrences there.

852
01:10:57,159 --> 01:11:03,479
There's several paranormal groups based there.
There are UFO sightings, there are

853
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:11,039
Indian burial mounds which can see in
a lot of other strange places. An

854
01:11:11,079 --> 01:11:17,279
episode of The Dead Files was filmed
there and compared to the population, there

855
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:24,239
also seems to be not an extreme
amount of missing persons, but like just

856
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:29,960
enough to make it a little bit
suspicious to me. So I agree.

857
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:35,119
And we all know Ohio is a
place of strangeness anyway, but Youngstown specifically

858
01:11:35,399 --> 01:11:45,840
seems to to draw the strange in. I agree with you. And just

859
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:51,159
to add a little bit to what
Susie's great job there she did, I

860
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:55,600
looked up also. You know a
lot of people talk about lay lines throughout

861
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:00,600
the country and and how lay lines
go underneath areas in the country of extreme

862
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,319
high strangeness, like talking about Skinwalker
Ranch. You know a lot of comparative

863
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:12,640
things happen at Skinwalker Ranch and at
the farm by Bray Road. And I'm

864
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,039
jealous by the way that you were
there and you were able to get that.

865
01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:18,239
I'd love to go there someday.
Well, we were able to talk

866
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:21,640
to the Bucks County crew. They
stayed at out there overnight. You can

867
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,199
see it on their YouTube video.
They saw a strange light moving the sky

868
01:12:26,279 --> 01:12:30,520
that zipped across the sky. They
saw a mist forming. I don't know

869
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,239
if it's like the ones Lee Hample
saw. It could have been natural conditions.

870
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:38,359
But then when you listen to this
tape, you're here howling like on

871
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,760
either side. And you know,
I'm no expert on animal howls, but

872
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,760
it's creepy as hell. And they
also they saw eyeshine about six feet off

873
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,399
the ground and they were all freaking
out. Eric said that, you know,

874
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:55,479
he usually doesn't get unnerved at these
places, but he wanted to get

875
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,319
the hell out of there. And
Dominic, who's the sensitive. I said,

876
01:12:58,319 --> 01:13:00,479
Dominic, what were you feeling?
And he said, I felt like

877
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:06,159
I was underwater in a shark tank
holding the bait. That's something that seems

878
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:12,279
to be a continuing thread with these
dog man sightings, that there's some kind

879
01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:16,720
of a sort of an evil aura
or intent there not always and kind of

880
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:21,079
separate from Bigfoot. I would say, but I don't know if And obviously

881
01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:26,520
with your experience, Matt, I
think the uh, that kind of a

882
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,479
I don't know, atmosphere seemed to
exude from the creature. Yeah it did,

883
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,920
you know, we were actually you
know, people always talk a lot

884
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:41,840
about, you know, when when
high strangeness situations occur, that it can

885
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,560
be you know, they talk about
frequency and people getting with them. Because

886
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,319
we have this veil that's right in
front of us, and everybody needs to

887
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:54,880
realize that, you know, we
are just a frequency away from being able

888
01:13:54,920 --> 01:14:00,760
to see other beings and other places, and this veil is always so close

889
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,960
to being pushed away in front of
our eyes. Everything on the planet Earth

890
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:10,720
has a frequency, and sometimes we
match the same frequency. And that night

891
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,439
when we were kind of zoning out, we were kind of in that mindset.

892
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,880
Well, we've all been there where
you're staring at a fire and you

893
01:14:17,039 --> 01:14:21,039
kind of just zone out and you
don't talk. That's what we were doing.

894
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:27,239
And then when this started to occur, right when the dogs ran by

895
01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:34,520
and we started this, it's this
extremely heavy feeling sense of dread started to

896
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,920
happen, you know, like something's
not right here, this feeling of we

897
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,319
need to get out of here so
absolutely, And you know, I wanted

898
01:14:44,319 --> 01:14:48,279
to say two last things here before
someone else says something. Speaking of the

899
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:54,720
lay lines, I had mentioned lay
lines I've looked at about Ohio. They

900
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:59,479
run through Ohio, I believe in
two spots, but one area that cuts

901
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:04,800
straight through the middle of Columbus,
Ohio and right through northeast Ohio, right

902
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:10,319
through Youngstown. So for Susie,
uh, there's another shot right there.

903
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,000
You know, if if you guys
have ever watched Expedition X with Josh Gates,

904
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:20,000
uh, and then Jessica Chobought and
the other guy's names Phil. They

905
01:15:20,039 --> 01:15:26,840
did a two parter where they were
at the farm and you know they actually

906
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:32,600
have filmed, uh, right outside
Lee Hample's farm of that Jessica chow Bought

907
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:39,800
her crew caught of with with infrared
of some type of wolf creature in hiding

908
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:44,800
staring at them and it definitely wasn't
a small animal. That was an amazing

909
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,000
experience. And then I finally want
to finish saying one last thing. Doctor

910
01:15:48,199 --> 01:15:53,159
Mashburn was the surgeon who saved my
life. It just popped back in my

911
01:15:53,239 --> 01:15:57,960
head. I just will good give
her credit. Uh yeah, the uh

912
01:15:58,279 --> 01:16:00,439
it was. It was amazing.
Lee hamp We I did a show with

913
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:05,760
him and did several shows actually with
the Bucks County guys and and Lee Hample

914
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:12,279
and it was just fascinating. Now
he also he's had he lives right now

915
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,479
on a too Linge. He's had
a lot of deer kills there and so

916
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,319
his what he would do is haul
them onto his property, set up a

917
01:16:20,359 --> 01:16:25,319
trap camera and you you look at
the time stamp, you'd see this myst

918
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:30,199
roll in at some point and then
the mist is gone and the carcass is

919
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,079
gone, and there's no drag marks
and no footprints. And this has happened

920
01:16:33,079 --> 01:16:38,079
at least a dozen times. Originally, I love to hear him tell the

921
01:16:38,119 --> 01:16:41,880
story when he first, You know, he's retired. He's a mathematician and

922
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,279
a chemist. He's a scientist,
and he doesn't you know, he said

923
01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:49,119
that if he had, if he
had read Linda Godfrey's books before he experienced

924
01:16:49,159 --> 01:16:53,760
any of this, he would have
thrown him in the trash. But when

925
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,960
he when he first, he's producing
hay on his farm. You know,

926
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:01,319
he's in his retirement. He's having
fun being productive. And some of the

927
01:17:01,319 --> 01:17:04,760
locals said, hey, you know
there's a wear wolf that lives back in

928
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:09,359
those woods there, and he's looking
at them like, are you crazy?

929
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,079
And then some credible people were telling
him about what they'd seen, and then

930
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:16,000
he saw it. He has seen
it at least a couple of times.

931
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:21,199
He's even had missing time. You
talk about a high strangest area, called

932
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:27,760
it a window area of vortice or
whatever it is. It is just bizarre.

933
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,359
And he keeps a lot of these
photographs close to his vest. He

934
01:17:31,359 --> 01:17:35,720
hasn't let them all out, but
I guess he's got some pretty amazing photographs

935
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,359
of this thing. But you know, they've even got hair samples of this

936
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:45,279
thing. There's no medulla in it. It's almost like these things are construct

937
01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:51,000
somehow created by this intelligence or whatever
to scare people away. I know that's

938
01:17:51,039 --> 01:17:56,560
crazy, but I don't think it's
crazy at all, Not after what I

939
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:01,000
saw. I believe that anything is
possible. Well if if they if that's

940
01:18:01,039 --> 01:18:05,840
their purpose, I think they failed
miserably because everybody seems to be flocking there

941
01:18:06,039 --> 01:18:10,960
to try and get a look at
this thing. But it's just it's just

942
01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:19,159
totally bizarre. Uh, Susie Andy, Any other questions, Susie, I

943
01:18:19,239 --> 01:18:25,399
am curious, Matt if you're still
in touch with your your you said one

944
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,920
only one person left is living.
Are you still in touch with them at

945
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,079
all? And how there are I
am? I am? I I speak

946
01:18:31,079 --> 01:18:34,720
with him probably once every couple of
weeks. We check in. He has

947
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:41,319
been keeping a close eye on Planet
four twelve. He I'm not going to

948
01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:45,560
say the business he has because I
don't want to, you know, out

949
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,920
them. You know everyone always says, do you ever think your friend will

950
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,560
come out and will sit by your
side. He I'm gonna say. He's

951
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:56,359
broken down quite a few times,
apologizing that he hasn't done that yet,

952
01:18:56,399 --> 01:19:00,399
and he promises he will, and
I know he will. He just owns

953
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,800
a very, very successful company.
He said. The last thing I need

954
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:10,239
right now is to have high clients. And we're talking. He gets into

955
01:19:11,079 --> 01:19:15,760
like multimillion dollar deals with companies and
what he does, you know, and

956
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,359
he said, sometimes I'll be in
other countries. He said, I just

957
01:19:18,399 --> 01:19:21,960
got back from Taiwan a month ago. He says, he, you know,

958
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:28,359
I can't have I get to this
meeting to sign a multimillion dollar deal

959
01:19:29,039 --> 01:19:30,399
and then they say, well,
you know, we hear that you saw

960
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:35,840
a werewolf and before we signed the
paper. So he said, I just

961
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,159
I'm sorry, and he wouldn't.
He cried, saying this, I'm sorry.

962
01:19:40,199 --> 01:19:43,920
You're doing this alone. He said, I promise you. I promise

963
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,840
you when I retire, I will
be right there by your side. And

964
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,239
I have no doubt. I have
no doubt at all. I'm not worried

965
01:19:50,279 --> 01:20:00,560
about the the validity of myself.
I've had countless now doctor's psychiaty trists,

966
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:06,439
counselors, I'm sure you all know
who Adam Davies is. He's big and

967
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:12,520
he is a good friend of mine. He used to be a professional court

968
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:17,479
cross examiner. I have him that
have all gone and put their PhDs on

969
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:24,000
the line and said, you know
my professional opinion as a human behavioral PhD.

970
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:27,760
Or Adam who said, I watched
your interview he says, I see

971
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:32,880
no reason not to believe you.
I have statements from PhDs saying I have

972
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:40,560
shown zero, not a little bit. Maybe yes, he's shown some signs

973
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:45,479
of belief, but one hundred percent, Matthew has shown zero signs of lying

974
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,479
or deception. And there are multiple
that I have proof of these people.

975
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:57,800
They've sent messenger messages on what lurks
beneath my buddy Dominic Josh Ninocchio for again,

976
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,039
I keep bringing up the one interview
I did on his because it's gotten

977
01:21:01,079 --> 01:21:06,960
the most loud noise. It's almost
a two million views in five or six

978
01:21:08,079 --> 01:21:13,920
months, and there's fifty thousand plus
comments on there, and that's where a

979
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,640
lot of these PhDs have made their
comments known, and they're on there.

980
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:24,880
You can look through them and find
them, and that is something more important

981
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:30,039
to me than just about anything else
of people. And I care when people

982
01:21:30,079 --> 01:21:32,840
say I believe you trust me,
that means something. But when a PhD

983
01:21:33,079 --> 01:21:38,359
comes out and stands by me,
that really is like thank you. You

984
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:43,479
know, I appreciate that. That
helps. Well. I think a lot

985
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,680
of people don't come forward with their
stories because they think that no one will

986
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,680
believe them. And it must have
been comforting to you when that priest that

987
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:56,640
you talk to believed you right off
the bat. It sounded like he might

988
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:02,520
have had some experiences or seen or
her. He did give me an immense

989
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:09,479
you know, relaxation right off the
bat. And I did here, I

990
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,840
did. I didn't ask him,
but he did give me looking as an

991
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,800
adult years later, you know,
just the way that he had put that

992
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:23,319
that statement to me. You know, sometimes things like this bleed through our

993
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:28,720
reality and sometimes we see them,
sometimes we don't when we come across them,

994
01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:32,479
either something nothing at all can happen
or something what happened to you?

995
01:22:33,119 --> 01:22:39,640
So yeah, it helped immensely,
and especially to a child who you know,

996
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,600
I was someone us said, well, you were a teenager. Well

997
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,199
fourteen, let's all be honest,
guys, fourteen years old is a baby.

998
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:58,319
And you know I cannot imagine a
seasoned thirty year US Navy seal being

999
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,800
able to go through what the four
of us went through that night and not

1000
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:06,920
have nightmares from that. And bizarre. Yeah, my son is fifteen and

1001
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:13,079
I can't imagine him going through that
right now. And bizarre that it's in

1002
01:23:13,119 --> 01:23:18,439
a an urban area. The one
other dog man encounter I know of Kim

1003
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:23,439
Poppy from Wisconsin, when she was
about seven years old. She was on

1004
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:29,399
Monster Quest by the way, undergoing
what was it? I think she had

1005
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,920
regressive hypnosis and they put the light
detector on her, which she said was

1006
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,640
killing her arm. But she was
about seven years old and she saw this

1007
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:43,239
thing upright Canaan walking down the city
street right in the Milwaukee area. So

1008
01:23:43,399 --> 01:23:47,039
I didn't see that. Yeah,
that's quite some time ago. She's been

1009
01:23:47,039 --> 01:23:50,920
on my show and I know her
and a very very credible lady, and

1010
01:23:51,319 --> 01:23:57,560
she recounted the experience under hypnosis and
passed a light detector test. So and

1011
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,199
a lot are credible. Now,
that's the thing that's upsetting to me is

1012
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,720
you know, and I think it's
slowly been changing. I think it's a

1013
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:11,600
lot these days because you know,
because people like Susie's doing this, I'm

1014
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,479
doing it, our friends are doing
it, You're doing it, Adam's doing

1015
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,560
it. You know, there is
a lot more because of technology and social

1016
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:26,600
media and entertainment that we are able
to hear these people. And they're not

1017
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:32,279
all crazy people, very credible,
intelligent, you know, well spoken and

1018
01:24:32,399 --> 01:24:36,960
well to do, people that are
successful in life, and just because they

1019
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:44,239
saw something incredible doesn't automatically make them
crazy. And so I like the way

1020
01:24:44,279 --> 01:24:48,960
that the paradigm is shifting in that
direction, so that people are getting the

1021
01:24:49,039 --> 01:24:56,119
ability to come out and then give
their account not have to fear all the

1022
01:24:56,159 --> 01:25:00,880
time that the world's going to make
fun of me. And Duosy is off

1023
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:06,880
occasionally exploring the Bridgewater Triangle area with
feet on the ground. Yes, that's

1024
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:12,279
an amazing area. I'd love to
see it sometime. Come on out and

1025
01:25:12,359 --> 01:25:16,239
visit. Well, I will,
absolutely. I have had you know,

1026
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:21,399
I've had you had mentioned to me, you know what I would like to

1027
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:27,359
talk about myself, and you know, I'm sure we're starting to run down

1028
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:30,119
on time here for your show,
but you know, I've had other things

1029
01:25:30,199 --> 01:25:33,960
happen to me. You know,
I had a dreamscape dream people had asked

1030
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:40,560
me if I have ever seen anything
like that before. About seven or eight

1031
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:45,439
months ago, I had it's called
a dreamscape dream, whereas the realist,

1032
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:50,239
most incredible dream I've ever had in
my life. I believe it's more than

1033
01:25:50,239 --> 01:25:54,720
a dream. And I've been reached
out by people who also have said you

1034
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:59,960
didn't have a dream. You were
reached out to by the being long story

1035
01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:03,239
very short. You know you have
your dreams where in your dream you know

1036
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,840
you're at home, but ninety nine
percent of the time it's usually not your

1037
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,720
house, but in your head it's
your house. Well, I was at

1038
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,560
my house, in my house,
in my backyard. If you could look

1039
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,319
out where I'm looking right now,
I see the woods in my backyard,

1040
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:24,640
and I went out by my my
fence that separates the woods from my backyard,

1041
01:26:25,119 --> 01:26:30,159
and I was hearing noises and I
was attacked by something thrown on the

1042
01:26:30,199 --> 01:26:35,319
ground. I felt in this dream
my my wind was knocked out of me.

1043
01:26:36,119 --> 01:26:41,640
I noticed something on top of me
was attacking or biting at my right

1044
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,520
leg, which is the leg I
lost, ripped the pant leg from my

1045
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,479
leg, wrapped its teeth around the
prosthetic, took it off of my leg

1046
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:55,880
and threw it with its mouth into
the woods, crawled on top of me,

1047
01:26:56,039 --> 01:27:00,319
put its head not but a quarter
inch from my forehead. It was

1048
01:27:00,399 --> 01:27:06,000
the exact same thing that I saw
when I was fourteen years old. I

1049
01:27:06,039 --> 01:27:11,760
could smell it. It smelled like
a horse or a cow. It actually

1050
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,680
dripped saliva in my mouth. I
tasted a saltiness. It was as real

1051
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:21,960
as me talking to my family.
And the next thing that happened was when

1052
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,239
it put its head. Its eyes
were right next to mine, glowing.

1053
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,800
It did not move its mouth,
but I heard a voice. It was

1054
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:40,039
an almost synthesized sound, a very
deep, growy voice that said, I

1055
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:45,039
came for you all those years ago. You speak of me too much.

1056
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:50,680
I will see you soon. And
then I woke up and I was soaking

1057
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:56,159
wet. I was sweating sitting in
my chair where I watched TV. My

1058
01:27:56,319 --> 01:28:02,119
puppy, had you guys heard earlier, had her paws on my legs,

1059
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:08,239
with her ears down and her tail
all the way between her legs. She

1060
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:14,119
was whining at four four thirty in
the morning. She knew something was going

1061
01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:17,960
on. We always hear the stories
of animals and that sixth sense that they

1062
01:28:18,039 --> 01:28:24,920
have with supernatural. And I know
I am telling you right now that was

1063
01:28:25,039 --> 01:28:29,680
not a dream. That was something
else. It's almost like one of those

1064
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:36,800
remote viewing experiences that becomes manifest.
Sometimes they tune in so clearly that they

1065
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:43,880
actually can feel the experience. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I told

1066
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,119
my wife because I was so messed
up from and she does not. You

1067
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:54,600
have to understand my wife, Stacy
is sunshine and rainbows, and she says

1068
01:28:54,119 --> 01:29:00,960
I am darkness and thunderstorms. You
know, she said, you deal with

1069
01:29:01,079 --> 01:29:04,239
that. I don't want to hear
about it. Please don't bring it here.

1070
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,439
I don't want that thing. Don't
tell me about it. I don't

1071
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,000
want to know about it. And
I had if you know, if anybody

1072
01:29:12,119 --> 01:29:15,800
watches, please I would appreciate anybody
to support my channel. But if you

1073
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:21,239
go to Planet four twelve, the
second video I ever released is you won't

1074
01:29:21,239 --> 01:29:26,880
believe what happened in Beaver Creek.
Beaver Creek State Park is in East I

1075
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:31,520
believe East Liverpool or East Palestine,
now East Liverpool, Ohio. It is

1076
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:38,079
in Columbia, a county which just
so happens to be where they got the

1077
01:29:38,119 --> 01:29:43,960
recording of the famous Ohio howe that
you hear all over the internet the Sasquatch

1078
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:48,960
screen. That's Columbiana County, Ohio. It was at Beaver Creek State Park

1079
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:57,159
where they got that. Beaver Creek
is known for tons of high strangeness,

1080
01:29:57,399 --> 01:30:03,039
go supernatural, Bigfoot, and it
just tons Doctor Rush Jones, if you

1081
01:30:03,119 --> 01:30:06,640
know who he is, he's all
over TV. He has a show.

1082
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:12,039
They've gone there, him and his
partner Brad, and they have forty five

1083
01:30:12,279 --> 01:30:19,399
minutes of almost identical Sierra sound recordings, just like mister Ron Morehead did.

1084
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:26,359
Really but yes, done at Beaver
Creek State Park in Ohio. And I

1085
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:30,479
went there last year for a Bigfoot
conference. The night before, I went

1086
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:35,279
to this campsite where the people who
were going to be speaking were and I

1087
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:42,640
was approached by a psychic. His
name's Johnny Freeman. He's on Facebook.

1088
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,800
You can look him up and ask
him if this is a true story.

1089
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,960
And he came up to me.
I'd never met this guy in my life.

1090
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,119
He came up to me and grabbed
my arm, which you don't do

1091
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:57,359
to a guy from Youngstown, and
I said, can I help you,

1092
01:30:57,399 --> 01:31:00,920
sir? He said, I'm sorry
mean to bother you. He said I've

1093
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:06,239
never seen an aura like yours before. My name's Johnny Freeman. I'm a

1094
01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:10,119
psychic. And you know right away, I'm like, okay, what do

1095
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:13,880
you need? He said, I
don't want to bother you, but something

1096
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,760
is telling me you need to go
up that trail. There was a trail

1097
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:24,199
that takes you up to where there
is supposed to be a portal that Bigfoot

1098
01:31:24,319 --> 01:31:29,880
and other supernatural beings utilized in Beaver
Creek State Park. And I had just

1099
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,319
had my left knee replaced. I
had, you know, a crutch on,

1100
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,039
I have a you know, I
have a prosthetic that I wear on

1101
01:31:36,079 --> 01:31:39,279
my other leg. And I laughed
at him. I said, you know,

1102
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,119
I just had my knear in place. Plus you know, look here,

1103
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:45,199
and I showed him. He said, you do what you want with

1104
01:31:45,239 --> 01:31:51,039
it. He said, I'm just
telling you that something is telling me that

1105
01:31:51,159 --> 01:31:57,079
you need to go up there.
And I thought about it for a while

1106
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:01,800
and I did it. And it
took me grueling thirty forty minutes to get

1107
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,520
up to the top. And I
got up to the top and I was

1108
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:14,439
hurting and soaked, and I kept
talking out loud. You know I'm here.

1109
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,279
I mean you no harm please come
see me, speak to me.

1110
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,760
Nothing occurred. But then right before
I headed down, because it was getting

1111
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:27,680
dark, I heard nothing except the
stream, which was about two hundred feet

1112
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,760
down to my right. It got
ultra quiet in the middle of the woods,

1113
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,840
and I went, oh boy,
here we go. I've heard the

1114
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:40,960
stories of how it gets quiet.
And I start getting nervous, thinking I'm

1115
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,119
gonna see. Just prepare yourself.
You've been through it that come on.

1116
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,880
And I didn't see anything. But
before I left, I said, I'm

1117
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:51,800
gonna do one more thing, took
my phone out and I got the digital

1118
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:57,399
recorder going, and I started asking
questions. And if you go and you

1119
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,199
watch that video on Planet for twelve, you will hear and mister Ron Moore

1120
01:33:01,279 --> 01:33:04,880
had himself, who's a friend of
mine, and you'll see an interview of

1121
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:10,319
his coming up on my channel in
the coming month. He listened to it

1122
01:33:10,399 --> 01:33:13,720
three times at a conference I was
at when I met him for the first

1123
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:18,920
time last year in Dallas Fort Worth, and his opinion, amongst many other

1124
01:33:19,079 --> 01:33:26,760
reachers researchers, is that I got
a grunt and two sets of four wood

1125
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,560
knocks, which were answers to questions
that I had asked out loud. I

1126
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:36,399
did not hear these noises with my
own ears. It only came out on

1127
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:45,560
the recording. And there's a there's
a cryptid podcast called Cryptid Creatures Todd Eerie

1128
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:53,279
and Brian Brock. I had given
them the copy of this recording I made

1129
01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:57,159
because it was hard to hear the
grunt at first, and they got the

1130
01:33:57,319 --> 01:34:01,279
sound boosted. So when you listen
to it, you will hear that grunt,

1131
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:05,319
and then you'll hear these two sets
of four wood knocks, and the

1132
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:11,159
second set of four wood knocks.
I ask how many of you are there?

1133
01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:15,039
And there were four wood knocks.
And the first thing you hear on

1134
01:34:15,199 --> 01:34:17,840
there when I say thank you for
letting me be in your home and in

1135
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:25,520
your woods, you hear woo.
And it's very very clear it is not

1136
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,399
me. So check that out if
you want to see another experience I had.

1137
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:34,479
It was really mind blowing and I
was so thankful that it happened to

1138
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:43,000
me. Definitely different than the dog
man experience. But look in the Beaver

1139
01:34:43,079 --> 01:34:47,479
Creek, guys. You will see
just by googling Beaver Creek State Park in

1140
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:56,880
Ohio, how much stuff goes on
there, and especially the Bigfoot, the

1141
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,119
bigfoot stuff. So if you look
up, like I said, doctor Russ

1142
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:05,079
Jones, and he has a partner. His name is Brad. I can't

1143
01:35:05,119 --> 01:35:12,680
think of his last name. They
have a YouTube show his partner. Brad

1144
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:21,239
has forty five minutes of Sierra Sound
like recordings. And they interviewed me two

1145
01:35:21,359 --> 01:35:25,600
times. There's a two parter on
their channel with me. They did my

1146
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:30,439
dog Man experience and we talked about
Beaver Creek and that's when they let me

1147
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,319
know that they spend a lot of
time there and all of the recordings that

1148
01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:39,800
they have there. And he actually
in my interview for the second one about

1149
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:44,279
Beaver Creek, does Brad play I
think he plays two minutes of some of

1150
01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:48,439
his recordings. So it's really incredible. And you know, and I believe

1151
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:53,039
that there are just some people.
You know, for my whole life,

1152
01:35:53,119 --> 01:35:58,720
from the time I was a child, I have always noticed details things that

1153
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:02,720
other people don't, always been able
to pick up on things that other people

1154
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,880
don't, or read people in the
blink of an eye, or go from

1155
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:13,319
my gut feeling. Ninety five percent
of my life. If I go from

1156
01:36:13,319 --> 01:36:16,119
my gut feeling, I'm right.
I just think some people, for some

1157
01:36:16,359 --> 01:36:23,479
reason have. I don't know.
They just are more sensitive to things than

1158
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:28,000
other people. I'm not saying I'm
special or anything like that. I just

1159
01:36:28,239 --> 01:36:39,159
I don't know why. I just
have an ability to attract things. We'll

1160
01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:45,640
Steve for a second. It's because
Steve muted itself. Yeah, please go

1161
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:49,479
ahead and say, I absolutely agree
with what you're saying there about I think

1162
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:53,560
one of the things I've noticed over
the years is the more you investigate things,

1163
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,800
the more since if you become to
things and more be aware, you

1164
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,239
become I used to be involved lot
of ghost investigation since I worked for an

1165
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:04,159
events company and we'd have people to
come along to events over and over again,

1166
01:37:04,199 --> 01:37:09,439
and they definitely felt that they felt
experienced and saw more the more often

1167
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,319
they did the events, unless,
of course, you're Steve, in which

1168
01:37:12,359 --> 01:37:15,239
case you can go to a million
events still see absolutely nothing. So precisely

1169
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:20,560
precisely, I'm the special guy in
the other direction that experiences almost nothing.

1170
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:25,960
Well, maybe we can change that, Maybe we could all get I've been

1171
01:37:26,039 --> 01:37:30,600
trying for years. I've been trying
me. I was. I was actually

1172
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:34,239
at Beaver Creek a few years ago
with a bunch of big roles and for

1173
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,760
several hours, and it was pretty
cool. They've they've had some they've heard

1174
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,840
things out there. Of course when
I was there, we heard nothing.

1175
01:37:42,279 --> 01:37:48,720
But but but because Steve's meant to
remain an objective observer so he can document

1176
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:54,640
other people's experiences, that you could
it could be because I have such a

1177
01:37:54,680 --> 01:38:00,159
phenomenally high i Q that I block
out everything. Of course that's kind of

1178
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:06,319
unlikely. Thank you Susie for me. Well, Matt, this has been

1179
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:12,560
a fantastic show. I can't thank
you enough, and thank you also for

1180
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,720
sharing your personal story about your near
death experience. You're very welcome. It

1181
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:23,920
was an absolute honor. You know, I've done thirty plus interviews so far

1182
01:38:24,039 --> 01:38:27,119
in my life, and this was
one of my favorites I've ever done.

1183
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:30,920
I really enjoyed doing it with all
of you. Well, I think we

1184
01:38:30,279 --> 01:38:34,119
all enjoyed it. And please tell
people how to see you and how to

1185
01:38:34,199 --> 01:38:40,159
contact you. Oh well, you
can see me at Planet four to twelve

1186
01:38:40,279 --> 01:38:45,159
on YouTube. You could write me
at my email you spelled out p l

1187
01:38:45,359 --> 01:38:50,000
A n E t f O you
R tw E l ve E gmail dot

1188
01:38:50,039 --> 01:38:54,119
com. I tried to get the
easy one. It was taken. But

1189
01:38:54,399 --> 01:39:00,319
if you just go on to that
YouTube page can reach me through there.

1190
01:39:01,079 --> 01:39:08,000
You can find me on Facebook and
hit me up on Messenger if you want

1191
01:39:08,039 --> 01:39:14,640
to tell me about your experiences and
you know, just I'd appreciate if you

1192
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:19,159
guys would would go to Plant four
twelve and just support me and subscribe and

1193
01:39:19,239 --> 01:39:23,640
check out all my videos and let
me know what you think. There's some

1194
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:28,399
new formats that are getting ready to
be started very soon, very exciting,

1195
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,880
and there's something that is getting put
together for the summer that I'm hoping Susie

1196
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:38,399
will be joining myself and some of
us with that. I am going to

1197
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:42,640
be telling her about soon. So
that's how you can find me, and

1198
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:46,640
you can also find me, I'm
sorry on Western Reserve Radio dot com.

1199
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:51,479
Every Wednesday from six to seven pm, I flip the switch, I turn

1200
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:58,560
into radio broadcast or I have a
show called Just Football with Matt empsh and

1201
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:03,399
During the Football, which will actually
start this year for me on June first,

1202
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:10,880
because I'm going to be color commentating
for Youngsound got a new semi pro

1203
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:15,520
football team, the Mahoning Valley Federals. I will be we are the official

1204
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,279
radio station for them. So I'm
going to have a back to back football

1205
01:40:18,319 --> 01:40:21,840
season, the Semi Pro, and
then a high school season. So those

1206
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:26,399
are the areas. I'm sorry,
Susie you were saying. I was going

1207
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,880
to say, everyone needs to make
sure they check out Supernatural town Hall.

1208
01:40:30,039 --> 01:40:33,680
That's every other Tuesday, right,
Yes, thank you, it's not every

1209
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:38,239
other it's every Tuesday. Thank you
so much, my buddies with a yell.

1210
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:41,359
It's one of my favorite shows.
I have to tell you. I

1211
01:40:41,359 --> 01:40:45,479
look forward to that every week and
you will be a guest on that again.

1212
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:49,159
And what that is exactly is every
Tuesday, we have a live stream

1213
01:40:49,239 --> 01:40:55,239
on Planet for twelve. It's called
the Supernatural town Hall Session and that is

1214
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:59,880
three channels, Planet for twelve,
which I host, and that it is

1215
01:41:00,079 --> 01:41:05,800
Codega's Codex of Curiosities that's owned by
Ry Voss, a good guy that is

1216
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:11,760
doing a great job. And then
you have another one called Sasquad the Sasquatch

1217
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:20,079
or Supernatural Podcast No Paranormal. Sasquatch's
Paranormal Podcast. J C. John Cornwell

1218
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:27,000
and Andrew Christie run that. And
then of course you have Susie so she

1219
01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:31,159
has her new Paranormal book Club coming
out as well. And I've dragged Steve

1220
01:41:31,239 --> 01:41:34,760
and Andy along with me with the
Paranormal Book Club. Also they will be

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all, well, I'm looking forward
to it, and she's dragging us along

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that gravel you were talking about.
Well, Matt, we hope that you

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will come back sometime on the show
because this has been a pleasure absolutely anytime,

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gentlemen. And Susie, it's always
a pleasure. And Andy and Susie,

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uh, before we us out,
Andy, tell people where they can

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find your publishing company. My cop
that's cordters to two of the morning and

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my brain starting to melt slightly.
I am Ninth Circle Press, as in

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Ninth Circle from Dante's Inferno. Ninth
Circle Press dot com or dot co dot

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uk owned both of them. You
can find by my book there whether it's

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now sold out to the probably will
publishing in the future. But my new

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book from my good friend and mine
on Essex Witchcraft should be out end of

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the month. End of next month, should say the end of May.

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So Ninth Circle Press excellent and Susie
tell us how we can get a hold

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of you and your information on Puck
Wedgies. Yeah, puck Logies dot blogspot

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dot com is my blog with a
lot of my research there as well as

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a contact form for anyone that wants
to reach out, and everyone should check

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out the Paranormal book Club Facebook group
and soon to become main podcast as well

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as my personal YouTube channel. I
am saying it out loud, so I

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have to do it. I am
going to start actually posting more videos and

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that's the Puquadjy Whisper on YouTube.
Awesome, excellent and by the way,

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thanks for making the connection with Matt
tonight. It was a great show.

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You're very welcome. Is happy to
do it. And again, Matt,

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thank you, and ladies and gentlemen. Lady and gentlemen, stay there for

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a minute. I'm going to do
the close out for the show. It's

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an honor. Thank you, Thank
you, Matt. The High Strangeress Factor

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was created by Steve Ward and Andy
Mercer and his copywriter by the Paranormal UK

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Radio Network. I want to thank
our fearless leaders Ireen Alan Block, Mark

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Johnson and Andy Mercer here at the
network. Also Andy as producer and composer

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along with Brian Zeller, who also
has composed music for the Highest Ancious Factor.

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I can also be heard on mc
maloney's Military X Files on the same

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network. In fact, Andy and
Susie I believe will be coming up on

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another mc maloney's show. That'll be
interesting. And I am Steve Ward,

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your humble host here on the High
Strangeness Factor, a displaced Michigander deep in

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the Ohio Valley. Thank you all
for listening. Andy and I will see

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you again in a fortnight or they'reabout
take care. I to