WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:29.920 Simple questions for one hundred people. Welcome to my experiment, a one hundred 2 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:35.640 person project. I'm Bill Carrell, and this is my investigation. I'm going 3 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:39.960 to be gathering data from one hundred beautiful human beings for the sole purpose to 4 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:44.240 see what actually happens across the interviews. The questions are fixed and all the 5 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:51.000 interviews will remain consistent with the variable being the actual participants themselves and their answers. 6 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:55.039 So, Elizabeth, as if I'm having you come sit on my porch 7 00:00:55.159 --> 00:01:00.159 to share your thoughts so I can learn about people looking forward to what we're 8 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.079 going to learn when we're done. Don't know what's going to be, but 9 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:08.519 very interested in you, your story and the process. So it's my distinct 10 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:14.159 pleasure to well, no, I'll have you introduce yourself. Okay, what 11 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.680 is your full name? Hi, I'm so happy to be here, Bill. 12 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:23.519 My name is Elizabeth Tresi's barber Tresize is my maiden name. Very cool. 13 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:27.480 Interesting, So that sounds like a name that has a couple of different 14 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:33.200 nationalities intersecting there. It does, but believe it or not, it's just 15 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:38.359 English. You would think it was more interesting than that. But apparently my 16 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:44.680 dad's family was from Cornwall in England. So really, okay, that's wonderful. 17 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:47.359 Well, that'll lead is right into the next question, which is what 18 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:52.439 is your favorite nickname that most people don't know about you? Ah? Okay, 19 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.840 Well, the nickname I'm most known by is Lee. When I was 20 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.799 in high school, elementary school, I was called Lee by my friends. 21 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.599 But the one that most people don't know about me apparently when I was a 22 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.599 little girl, I couldn't say my name Elizabeth, and so my my cousin 23 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:12.560 would ask me, say what's your name? And I would say Bettetts, 24 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:16.719 Bettitts. And so now my cousin, who is quite a bit older than 25 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:20.599 me, he'll come in and he'll call me Bettts. Well, some of 26 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.479 my girlfriends picked that up, and then their kids now call me Betets, 27 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:28.479 and so it's kind of an affectionate little nickname. It's a great name. 28 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:32.639 As a matter of fact, you're my first bet Betetts I've known. Yeah, 29 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:38.800 I mean that gives birth to gives rise to Beth and Liz and Lizzie 30 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:44.439 and uh you know bet and uh whatever, But Bettetts And how would you 31 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:49.439 spell that? B E T T I T s. Okay, bet it 32 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.240 so and you know, I was never Betsy as a young girl because my 33 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:58.680 my middle name was actually Ross, and so then I would have been Betsy 34 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.000 Ross and my parents were like, yeah, no, we're not calling you 35 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:06.919 that. Is that a family name? I was my grandfather's name on one 36 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:09.759 side. Yes, cool, cool. I've got a dear friend whose name 37 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:14.680 was Ross and he was one of one of the best guys, no doubt 38 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:19.800 about it. So I love the nickname. Are there any other nicknames that 39 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:28.039 people have for you? My daughter calls me Mucci and I'm not sure why. 40 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.520 Like, she calls me Mumu and Mucci. I'm like, Mumu is 41 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:34.319 in like a cow And she's like, well, no, not exactly, 42 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:39.960 mom, It's just her little affectionate I don't know. Yeah, that's funny. 43 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:46.159 That reminds me of the sidekick from one of the Cowboys shows back in 44 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:52.240 the nineteen fifties. The young boy's name was Mucci. Oh yeah, Mucci. 45 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:54.080 Yeah. She I don't know, she loves called me Mucci. I'm 46 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:59.159 like, okay, well that's cool. You know, you know you're loved. 47 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:01.719 If people are going to the trouble of making a pet names for you, 48 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:08.879 that's so true. What are some of your nicknames other than p i 49 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:17.399 A. I've been called big Bill, I've been called Billy. My favorite 50 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:24.959 one, my favorite one that that I really enjoy. Some of my really 51 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:30.040 good friends call me is Bud. Bud. Even though we're not blood brothers, 52 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.279 they still refer to me as But I have two guys that I really 53 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.879 think the world of, and they somehow our relationship has gotten to the point 54 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:41.879 where after we hug, you say, how you doing, Bud? That's 55 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.360 great? You know it's funny. You remind me. I have a friend, 56 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.959 a girlfriend from eighth grade, and we call each other Bud. She's 57 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.800 the only other person that called We call each other Bud. You might be 58 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:55.120 Rosebud. I think I'm a little different. It might be something else, 59 00:04:55.279 --> 00:05:01.439 but all right, So I think we've done a pretty good job. I 60 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:05.040 have a feeling we could really get in deep on the nicknames. There's probably 61 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:10.920 some that are not necessarily for prime time, but yes, at least for 62 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:16.560 me. So I want to ask you how old Elizabeth were you when you 63 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:21.680 first noticed what color hair you had. Well know, that's a funny question 64 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:30.199 because I can't remember as a child what that would be. But my initial 65 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:36.399 response to That would be three years ago when I stopped coloring my hair and 66 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:42.519 realized that I'm actually gray, sort of that platinum blonde gray ish, and 67 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.399 I was like, oh, that's what my real hair color is after twenty 68 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:53.399 five years of coloring it. So that's awesome. So have you ever considered 69 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:56.639 just letting it go that way, or at least just streaking your hair or 70 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.839 something all of Oh yeah, no, yeah, I stopped coloring it during 71 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:02.439 the pandemic, like a lot of women did, and so I'm this is 72 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:06.279 gray. I realize your listeners can't see this, but it's it's sort of 73 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:12.959 a blondish platinum, but it's gray. It's got really nice highlights, and 74 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.040 it's clear, uh, you know that it's not just one color, which 75 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:21.680 I think is really wonderful. I think it's boring, you know, and 76 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.319 you women out there that are going to hear this in some of you guys, 77 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.720 when your hairs are all the same color, I think, you know, 78 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.160 there's a little bit of character that's missing there. So it's kind of 79 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.959 good to have, you know, some some highlights and a little bit of 80 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:40.120 you know, little touches here and there. And since they can't see you 81 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.680 I just want to let them know you have beautiful long hair and it frames 82 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:46.319 your face very nicely. Oh, thank you so much, I am. 83 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:47.839 You know, I think like a lot of women, you know, during 84 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:51.600 the pandemic, we weren't able to get to the salon, and then when 85 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.360 you let it grow out, it's like, oh, wait a minute, 86 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.879 this isn't so bad. I think I'll just keep it this way. So 87 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.439 I kind of saved a lot of money over the years if I had stopped 88 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:05.040 coloring it. Decade ago. I've been married to a woman who has absolutely 89 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:09.800 no vanity, you know, at all with regard to coloring and that sort 90 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:15.120 of thing. I've been after her to do her hair red because it's you 91 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:20.800 know, she started out as its kind of like a summer blonde, and 92 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.720 you know, over the years since we've been together for a very long time. 93 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.600 You at home don't know this, but I'm coming up on my fiftieth 94 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:32.959 anniversary in just about two years from now, and she surprised me on a 95 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.879 couple of occasions and came home with red hair, which I thought was really 96 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:39.639 kind of cool out of nowhere, you know. But other than that, 97 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:44.759 the last four or five years, she doesn't put anything on it. It's 98 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.519 fine. Absolutely, when it gets to a certain point it doesn't dry quickly. 99 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:51.839 She goes and gets it cut. Now, what about you? Have 100 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:57.879 you ever colored your beard? There? No, And did I tell you 101 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:01.160 what the story is about this beard since your interview me and all? So 102 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.800 this beard is a COVID beard. My younger daughter has asked me to grow 103 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.639 a beard two times in my life. Once when I was about thirty, 104 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.959 and it was black with red highlights in it, and when it came in 105 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.040 it only grew out to be about an inch inch and a half long and 106 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.680 stopped and that was it. So I wore it that way. My dad 107 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.959 was calling me Svend the woodcrafter, and you know, he had other little 108 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:31.639 little nicknames for me about the beard, most of which were not necessarily complimentary, 109 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.840 but they were terms of endearment, like getting a rib shot, you 110 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.039 know, when you get a hug and then you get a little poked in 111 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.720 the side of the ribs. And so that was it. I went without 112 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:43.720 a beard, I mean from there until like it was, you know, 113 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:50.879 three years ago, really coming up in June or July, my daughter number 114 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.240 two said again, hey, Dad, it's COVID man, everybody's growing beards. 115 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.600 You know your son in laws are doing it. Why don't you do 116 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.559 it? I said, well, if all my friends are doing I guess 117 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:03.799 I better get get after it right. So it got to be about this 118 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.759 long. And then the next thing I knew, I'm trimming it every sort 119 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:09.639 of you know, week to ten days, taking a quarter of an inch 120 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:13.039 off to try to keep that shape. And I said, finally, this 121 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.279 is this is too much work. I'm just gonna let it grow. So 122 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.240 I've trimmed three inches off the bottom twice over that period of time. The 123 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.879 last time I did it was about a year year and a half ago. 124 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.320 I'm just going to get it all the way out. And when I get 125 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:31.279 it long enough to to be, you know, offered, you know a 126 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:37.039 gig with a zzy top or somebody like that, I'll do a fundraiser and 127 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.320 chop it all off and make some money for somebody. So much I love 128 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:45.399 it, that's great. Yeah, that's great. So here's the next one. 129 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:56.039 What is your favorite thing to do to intentionally waste time? That usually 130 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:03.120 involves hanging out with my daughter who's thirteen, and she has gotten into watching 131 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:09.440 NCIS and you know, I watched NCIS when it came out what originally twenty 132 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.799 years ago, and so now we're I think on season five or six, 133 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.240 and we'll just sit and binge watch a couple episodes, and yeah, it's 134 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.559 really fun. It's actually really fun because you know, that was back in 135 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.559 the days when people had blackberries and PDAs and so it's so funny, you 136 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:31.360 know, and Gibbs is real confused about the technology, and now I think, 137 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.080 you know, twenty years later, we're so much more advanced. It's 138 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.279 really funny. Yeah. Mark harmon Is, is that is that his show? 139 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.360 My mom loved harm She really did. Yes, yeah, she she 140 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.559 whatever was going on in her world, it all had to go on. 141 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:52.159 Hold. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, So my daughter and I have 142 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.000 fun with that. That's kind of that's our little wasting time thing. Awesome. 143 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:01.600 Anything else you do when your daughter's not around, well, I don't 144 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.000 know that it's necessarily a wasting time thing, but I love to get out 145 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.960 and go hiking. I live in the mountains of Asheville, North Carolina, 146 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.639 and it's beautiful here. So that's the best way to sort of lose track 147 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.120 of time is just get out in the woods. Is that Blue Ridge or 148 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.399 Smoky's or are you in that part of the yes war, Yes, yeah, 149 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.159 it is beautiful through there, especially the interstates that kind of go up 150 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.480 a mile and a half and then down a mile and a half and then 151 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:33.799 up there. Yes. Yeah, it's gorgeous here. Yeah. So on 152 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:39.720 to the next question, what is your favorite movie to watch alone? So 153 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.519 I have to tell you, Bill, this is like one of the hardest 154 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.879 things for me because I don't really watch television unless I'm with my daughter. 155 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:54.080 I would rather be reading or spending time with friends or you know, doing 156 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:58.519 something creative. So I had to really think about. Okay, so what 157 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.919 are the movies I have loved the years, And I'm a kid of the 158 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.879 eighties, So if I had to say, it would be one of those, 159 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:11.360 it would be you know, Top Gun, it would be you know, 160 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.000 Breakfast Club, Dirty Dancing, you know one of those. Yeah, 161 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.600 classics, classics, all no doubt about it. You've lost that loving feeling, 162 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.399 you know. Yes, well, and you know when the new Top 163 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.440 Gun movie came out, what was that two years ago and people were like, 164 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.600 oh, you know Tom Cruise, you know, he's washed up or 165 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.519 whatever. Man, I went and I thought it was just awesome. But 166 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:37.600 I also I had wanted to be a pilot when I was younger, so 167 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:43.080 I love all those flying sequences. So it blew my socks off. I 168 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.440 had absolutely no idea they were going to be able to do that, even 169 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:52.600 if it wasn't real, I mean the scenes. I'm not going to be 170 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.919 a spoiler here, but if you haven't seen the new Top Gun, you 171 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:01.480 owe it to yourself because there are so many wow. You know, a 172 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.519 lot of a lot of movies have yeah, right sequences, but Top Gun 173 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:11.360 has definite a lot of wow. I thought it was an excellent sequel. 174 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:13.639 You know, a lot of sequels don't live up to the hype. But 175 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.919 I thought they did a really good job. But you know, I'm probably 176 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:22.840 one of the few Tom Cruise fans out there. Yeah, he's having trouble 177 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:26.720 making ends meet, I understand. So you and I like him right, 178 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.240 well, you know, you know I was a teenager when you know he 179 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:37.399 first came on the scene with risky business, so you know it was fun. 180 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.840 That was when boys started taking their pants off and girls loved it. 181 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:46.519 Right, we want to keep this g rated though, right. You know, 182 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.679 when Kevin Bacon and his little dance and lose. Yes, yeah, 183 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:56.279 for sure. So let's just move on here to the next one. I 184 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:00.080 think I've got another question for you, all right. So if you if 185 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.279 you were to have an action figure made of you, Elizabeth, what superpower 186 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:09.200 would it have and what colors would the uniform be? Well, the colors 187 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:15.200 are easy. It would be purple and turquoise, because those are my two 188 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:26.759 favorites. I think I would love to be able to buy locate because there 189 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:31.559 are so many people that I always want to see and visit and places that 190 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.279 I want to go and travel, and so if I could be in multiple 191 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.080 places at one time, that would just be not only fun, but more 192 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:46.399 efficient too. That's very cool, all right, So there's the fun aspect 193 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.399 of it. Would you do anything to make the world a better place? 194 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.480 Is there an altruistic bent to your superpowers? Or are you just more or 195 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.759 less going to be selfish with them? Oh? Well, that's a good 196 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:00.159 question. I mean sure, of course I want to be altruistic. And 197 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.720 you know, I think for me, it's about connection. It's about connecting 198 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.919 with the people that I love and care about. I've moved around a ton, 199 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:13.600 I've lived in I don't know thirteen or fourteen cities in the last thirty 200 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.639 years. So I have friends all over the place, and my family all 201 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.679 over the place. I'm actually the oldest of twelve kids, which is a 202 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.440 whole nother story, and so you know, I would love to be spending 203 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.440 more time with the people that I love and care about. So, yeah, 204 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.960 so you're one of those folks that when the shelf paper gets a little 205 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:41.399 bit dirty, or onto the next place. I yes, I move around 206 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:46.799 quite a bit, although I just came back to Ashville after fifteen years away. 207 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.120 So I'm happy to be back in this town that I love so much. 208 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.120 And what's that like for you? Since you're back now and you had 209 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.399 this hiatus period which a lot of things change, I would imagine, yes, 210 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.039 yes, yes, yeah. You know it's interesting because and I think 211 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.039 you and I had discussed this. I'm originally from Connecticut. I was raised 212 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:12.080 in Connecticut, but I've lived in the South most of my adult life, 213 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:18.320 you know, Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Texas. 214 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:22.480 You know, I've kind of lived all over. But coming back to 215 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.200 a city after fifteen years away was Yeah, it was a big adjustment. 216 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:32.559 And when I was here before I was single and then met my husband Eric, 217 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:37.080 and so that was kind of a fun young time in my life. 218 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.480 And now, you know, we have a thirteen year old daughter and you 219 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:42.960 know, we're raising her, and so that's different. I still have the 220 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.200 same group of friends, and yet a lot of people have gotten married or 221 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:52.320 gotten divorced or had children, and so you know, the dynamic is different. 222 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:55.919 But it's just great being back here this land. I don't know, 223 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.759 you haven't been here, have you? Not to act per se, but 224 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.680 been through several different places in North Carolina. Okay. There's something about these 225 00:17:03.839 --> 00:17:10.119 mountains that are really magical and mystical here, and you just feel it when 226 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:12.920 you're out on the land. It just feels different than any place I've ever 227 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:18.799 been. Well, I can tell you that my wife and I going south, 228 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:23.960 have taken you know, the Inland Interstate through the Smoky Mountains. Yeah, 229 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.119 down eighty one. Yeah it's down eighty one. You lie, and 230 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.799 I'll swear to it. Okay. And you know the thing of it is 231 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:37.000 is that I don't know. Three years ago, I do this walk about 232 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.960 deal where I get in my car and I just drive for sometimes a couple 233 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:45.279 of weeks, and it's usually because my wife is busy doing something else and 234 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.000 I just have to go see my old buddies and friends all over the country. 235 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:52.480 Sometimes it's in the Northeast. But on that trip I went down, 236 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.880 I drove the first day down to Annapolis, Maryland, and from there I 237 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:03.279 left Annapolis, Maryland. I took the most direct route over the mountains into 238 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:08.960 Lexington, Kentucky. So I don't know exactly everywhere I was, but it's 239 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.799 the first time I've been on the interstate where there is actually a traffic light 240 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:18.519 in the middle of the mountains. That was new and different, and I 241 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.359 had to pay attention play heads up ball driving around with those trucks and everything 242 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.279 it was. It was quite different. But I agree with you there is 243 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:33.759 a quality to the different parts of our country, especially with the water portion 244 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:37.839 of it. I was born and raised in Denver, Colorado, so the 245 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.400 Rockies have always been a big part of me. I went to the University 246 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:47.240 of Colorado first, my first attempt at college, and then you know, 247 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.319 after that, I've been back many many times. I've got two daughters and 248 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:55.720 two grandchildren families that are living out in Denver right now. So yeah, 249 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.359 I agree with you. Mountains are cool, Yeah, they are. So 250 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:07.880 what did you want to grow up to be when you were five? When 251 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:11.920 I was little, I wanted to be a pilot. I wanted to be 252 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:17.160 a pilot. Then I wanted to be an astronaut, but then I really 253 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.720 came back to I just wanted to be a pilot. I wanted to fly 254 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:25.000 planes. And even in high school, my parents took me speaking of Colorado, 255 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:27.440 they took me to Colorado Springs and we went and we toured the Air 256 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:32.400 Force Academy, and I was all excited. I was going to join the 257 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:37.160 Air Force because my dad had served in the Air Force. And then when 258 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:41.680 I found out the requirements for your eyesight to be a pilot, I have 259 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.359 worn glasses since I was four years old, in contact since I was ten 260 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:49.119 years old, and I would not have met the requirement. So my dad 261 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.200 was like, well, you can still join the Air Force and I was 262 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:55.279 like, not if I can't be a pilot, Dad. So I ended 263 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:57.759 up going to William and Mary for college and went a completely different route. 264 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:03.559 But I wanted to fly when I was a kid. Wonderful, wonderful. 265 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.279 Did you have a particular kind of plane that you wanted to fly. Was 266 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.359 there something that you saw and you said that would really be neat? I 267 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.680 don't. I don't think so. No, I just I think I loved 268 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:18.200 you know, my family traveled a bit when I was little, and I 269 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:23.079 just loved the freedom, the freedom of being up in the air and having 270 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:26.680 that big picture view of everything that was going on. And it just, 271 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.000 I don't know, it seemed very glamorous to me. So now I understand 272 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:34.799 it's, you know, way more scientific. But yeah, there's there's a 273 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.359 lot of science behind it, it turns out. Huh, yes, yes, 274 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:44.440 Well, you know, I was watching an interview with Sully, Captain 275 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:48.480 Sully who landed the plane in the Hudson. Not Tom Hanks, but the 276 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:49.920 real guy, right, the real guy. Yeah, yeah, the real 277 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:55.839 guy. Actually I didn't see the movie, but but I was watching Katie 278 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.680 Kuric's interview of him. I guess it must have been the anniversary of that 279 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.279 land a few months ago, and you know, it was just really listening 280 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:10.559 to him talking about his process and how he really ended up operating on instinct 281 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:14.799 in that moment, and you know, his training, all of the training 282 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.680 about what to do and you know, you know, all of that kicked 283 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:21.599 in, but he was just really operating on instinct. And I remember she 284 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:25.279 asked him, she said, well, do you remember praying? And he 285 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.640 said, you know, I figured I had whatever one hundred and sixty eight 286 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:33.799 passengers in the back taking care of that for me. He had church going 287 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.039 on right at that moment. That's right, that's right, and he was 288 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:41.160 just focused on, you know, getting everybody to see and he did. 289 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.720 I mean, it's such a remarkable story. So well, yeah, and 290 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:51.279 he does all of the acts of heroism, and then afterwards he has to 291 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:57.880 withstand the onslaught of all the second guessing and the insurance company nonsense, but 292 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:00.559 not to not to let the whole cat out of the bag. Tom Hanks 293 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:07.359 does a reasonably good performance. I've never seen Sully himself other than at the 294 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:11.759 time they were fishing them out of the Hudson. You know, way back 295 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.640 then, there was a you know, when when they got to got to 296 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.319 dry land, they were just kind of quickly interviewing them what happened and all 297 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:22.319 this, and he just basically said, you know, this was like a 298 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.880 you know, a day at the office for me. Wow, facing like 299 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.559 that, you know, well, I need to add this to my movie 300 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.160 list. Then actually, well we're I'm glad we're talking about this. I'll 301 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.599 add Sully to my movie list. Yeah, Tom, Tom's done a few 302 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:41.119 things pretty well. And since I don't really know the real character of Sully 303 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.720 myself, I would definitely, uh, have you have you put it on 304 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.720 there? I mean, anybody that can talk to a to a volleyball, 305 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:56.839 you know, for for paying a mustache on it and call him Wilson. 306 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:02.160 You know, that's so true. That was a great movie. So Elizabeth, 307 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:04.759 I mean, I really appreciate all of that. And we'll kind of 308 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:10.480 like fast forward to now or maybe the time in between. What would you 309 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:18.000 say is your greatest accomplishment? Well, you know, I think as a 310 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.920 mama, you know, probably the first instinct would be to say, you 311 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:26.599 know, having a child and keeping her alive, you know, relatively healthy 312 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.240 and happy. Yeah, you know, I have a thirteen year old daughter, 313 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.519 and you know, she's had a lot of big life changes and challenges 314 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:40.440 and she's just an incredible kid, and that's been the greatest gift in my 315 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:45.319 life in terms of accomplishment, you know, So maybe that's a personal accomplishment. 316 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.480 Feeling like, Okay, I'm doing okay at this mama thing. Is 317 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:53.599 your question to do with what you will? Yeah, I think in terms 318 00:23:53.599 --> 00:24:02.200 of a professional accomplishment. It's actually fairly recent I published my second book, 319 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:04.599 gosha oh, I have a copy here, I'll show you. I know 320 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.599 your listeners won't be able to see it, but this is my book. 321 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:15.039 It's called Sacred Celebrations, Designing Rituals to Navigate Life Smilestone Transitions, and it 322 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:21.119 actually just came out in November, and it's all about helping us go through 323 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:26.640 life changes, you know, the endings and beginnings of births and marriages and 324 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:32.599 divorce and death and moves and big changes. So, yeah, you've had 325 00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:38.319 kind of an incredible personal journey, and do you use that experience to kind 326 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:45.480 of go through this or is this talking about things in general with regard to 327 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:51.319 those types of occurrences. Yeah, great question. It is part memoir. 328 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:55.559 I definitely share a lot of my personal stories in there, but I also 329 00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:02.880 interview dozens and dozens of coaching clients and friends and relatives and they share their 330 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:07.160 stories of rituals and big life transitions as well. So it's a little bit 331 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.160 of both. Yeah, can you do me a favor? And just hold 332 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:14.559 the book up one more minute. I want to describe for the folks at 333 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:18.799 home, if you're familiar with Peter max Art from the nineteen sixties and early 334 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:25.279 seventies, with very small heads, big bodies, and you know that sort 335 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:29.920 of thing like the Beatles, yellow submarine people. You know, that's a 336 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.480 little reminiscent of that style, but maybe not carried out, you know, 337 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.880 to the full ends degree. But they're sitting around in a circle holding each 338 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:42.359 other's hands. And can you talk about that just a little bit and like 339 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.839 what that might be about and how you got inspired to have that as a 340 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:52.079 cover. Thank you for asking that, Yes, because the concept of sacred 341 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:57.319 celebrations to me, you know, there's a lot that's been written about ritual, 342 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:00.960 you know, personal ritual, self care, ritual, you know, 343 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.599 how can you do things to take care of yourself. But for me, 344 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:10.039 the what this book is really about is about being in community. It's about 345 00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:15.759 holding and witnessing one another, whether it's a group of women friends or group 346 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.279 of men friends, or if it's family members, you know, multi generational. 347 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.480 And of course we always love when we can have those experiences too, 348 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.319 but it's really about witnessing one another as we go through these big changes, 349 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.519 you know, think about you know, a funeral. I mean, I 350 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.000 know you and I are both going to be contributing to this book on grief 351 00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:38.119 and loss, and a lot of the people in there will be writing about 352 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.599 loved ones that have passed. And this idea that when we go to a 353 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:48.200 funeral, it's this very universal experience. It's very communal, and we're all 354 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.839 witnessing and loving on one another. And we need more of that in our 355 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:57.799 society. You know, I think we're living in such a siloed way. 356 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:00.960 You know. It used to be that we lived multi generationally, right, 357 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:06.480 you know, and we'd have grandparents and aunties and uncles, and now everybody 358 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.039 kind of lives in their little bitty family unit and people are really isolated and 359 00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:14.160 we need to reconnect more. We need to have more community. And so 360 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:18.039 that's what this book is about, is about creating rituals to create those bonds. 361 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.920 I really like it. I will have a copy on order. Are 362 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.640 you on audible or is it just a print book? Not yet, it's 363 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.160 a print and kindle. Okay, all right, well I will have a 364 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:34.000 copy of that before the day is out. Okay, great, you did 365 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:41.119 mention that you and I are collaborating on a book about grief and loss with 366 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:48.799 the and maybe you could say again, you know, what kind of outcomes 367 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:55.240 would be great for you out of contributing to that again holding hands with another 368 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.559 community of people, because as I understand it, there's upwards of thirty of 369 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.960 us that are all writing chapters. Yes, yes, yes, well, 370 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:07.640 I think you know, I was so attracted to this project with Sam Ruth 371 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:15.240 because you know, she's very expansive in her definition of grief, understanding that 372 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.319 you know, grief and loss is not just about the death of a person. 373 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.720 It can be the death of a marriage, or the end of a 374 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.759 job, or a career, or a shift in identity. You know, 375 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.880 there's so many different ways that grief shows up for us. So I think 376 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.319 for me and I actually my chapter is going to be writing about the grief 377 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:41.200 and loss inherent in adoption because I'm an adult adoptee and my daughter is an 378 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.240 adoptee, and so talking about that system and how it's built on grief and 379 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:51.319 loss, and you know, just to sort of amplify I think all of 380 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:56.960 the different ways that people are walking around carrying grief and yet they're still functioning 381 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.640 human beings, right, you know, we're still you know, and kids 382 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.400 and doing good work in the world, and yet we're all carrying sadness and 383 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:08.200 loss with us. I love that you're saying that. You know, in 384 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.000 particular, we look at people and outwardly they look like, you know, 385 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:17.880 they're just going through a terrific life, you know, and in many, 386 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:23.160 many cases, some of them, all of them would have a reason to 387 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.279 break down if they were to stop and just think hard on the subject. 388 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:34.079 But some of them are literally just a random occurrence away from breaking down. 389 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.119 And if we knew that about each other, how would we ever do anything 390 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.880 other than just be kind? That's so true. It's so true. And 391 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.960 you know, when you shared your story with me about I think you said 392 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.440 it was losing your dad and your best friend within a month. Within a 393 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:53.599 month. Yeah, yeah, just what I mean, both in and of 394 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.960 themselves are just such significant losses, and then to have both at the same 395 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:03.680 time is just it must have been a really tender time for you. Yeah, 396 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:08.640 And it was kind of the culmination I'm going to write about this obviously, 397 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:14.960 but it was the culmination. They were in the top twenty five of 398 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.319 people that I had lost in the previous three years, a lot of other 399 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:26.720 family members, relatives, longtime friends, who lost a mate, you know, 400 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:32.680 or lost a child. It just was a very difficult time to catch 401 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.880 a good, full breath, if you will. Yes, And that was 402 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.599 a transformational moment for me. I won't let the cat out of the bag 403 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:45.680 now, but I do think all of you will maybe one of the chapters 404 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.079 in the book will find yourself in and it's not too early for you to 405 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.160 start pinging me about how you can get a copy of it in advance or 406 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:57.160 Elizabeth. Folks, when we sign off, we'll give you an opportunity to 407 00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.519 let people know how to get into touch with you. Well, that's great. 408 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.119 Have we told folks the name of the book that we're working on. 409 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.599 Yeah, it's called Faces of Grief and it will be released in early December. 410 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.559 Yep. Yes, Samantha was my guest on this podcast. I think 411 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.839 either three or four folks ago, so bet a minute or two. And 412 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:25.279 I really appreciate you, you know, plugging our good friend, plugging your 413 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:30.640 own work. And I'm only here because you're cool. Okay, Well, 414 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.720 thank you. I like being part of the co kids club. Yes you 415 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.039 are, there's no doubt about it, not because I said so. So 416 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.680 back on to the questions again, Elizabeth. You can see that I find 417 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:47.119 you fascinating and I could probably just be here all day with you. However, 418 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.240 bearing in mind that our listeners have kind of a cadence and they don't 419 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.079 mind it when we spend a minute or two. But we've had a good 420 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.279 time talking about your accomplishment. But who's your face person to listen to? 421 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.240 That is such a hard question to answer, Bill, I honestly, I 422 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:15.279 mean there could be like five different answers for that, but I think the 423 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.960 one I'm gonna go with, and I know I've already talked about her, 424 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:25.119 but is my daughter. She's thirteen. Her name is Riley, and she 425 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:31.640 helps me see the world in a different way as I think all of our 426 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:37.000 young people do, right. You know, they have a playfulness and enthusiasm 427 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:43.400 and innocence about them. That for me, you know, she helps me 428 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:49.400 get out of my grown up responsible to do list brain, you know I've 429 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.160 got to get a stuff on, and helps me just be silly and playful. 430 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.839 Like last night, so you know how we just had the time change 431 00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.920 and you know, it was time for her to go to bed, and 432 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:05.559 this child was just bouncing around the house like Tigger, you know, from 433 00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:07.680 Winnie the Pooh, And she was singing the Tigger song, whatever it is. 434 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:13.039 She's a little actress and a singer, and and we were just cutting 435 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.319 up last night, just having so much fun. And you know, I 436 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:23.240 so appreciate her reflections just on the world and on life and on people, 437 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:30.200 and she just really makes me think differently. Yeah. Yeah, Well, 438 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.079 in some ways I envy you because I feel the same way when I'm around 439 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.640 my grandson's they're a couple of years younger than her, but not too much, 440 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:45.039 and they're the same same way. They're both at a case, you 441 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.759 know, they're they're at the age where they're really thinking and engaging in terms 442 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:53.279 of their questions. Their sense of humor, you know, is really really 443 00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:58.920 funny. Sometimes it's not funny in a jokey sort of a way. It's 444 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.799 like, you know, dead and you got to listen, okay, But 445 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.160 the bouncing around like Tigger. I've got the older one that's that's kind of 446 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.840 his stick, and then the younger one is going to be more like, 447 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.559 you know, kind of very dryly. You know, coming up and saying, 448 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:21.079 hey, Grandpa, is it true that we really have to eat spaghetti 449 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:28.280 tonight? You know? And then he'll say, because you know that all 450 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.119 of those individual spaghettis, they all gave their lives for us. You know 451 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:38.960 something that I have a hard time sleeping at night when I think about all 452 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.480 of those Spaghettis. And I said, I know what you mean, Lincoln, 453 00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.480 And then he follows it up and he says, and Grandma is having 454 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:51.480 gluten free and he says to me, he says, what happens to all 455 00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:59.760 the free glutens? Where did they go? And I said, it's a 456 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.639 my son, it's a mystery. And I'm like, that's exactly it, 457 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.920 right, Like they just they come up with these crazy random things, and 458 00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.480 yeah, so fun, so playful. Well, I kind of share your 459 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.119 your enthusiasm for Riley. She sounds like somebody who's a force of nature. 460 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.199 I'm looking forward to hearing her speak. Someday she is you will, She'll 461 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:29.800 be on the big screen. I think I can't wait. So please complete 462 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.000 this sentence, if you will, Elizabeth, When I grow up, I'd 463 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:42.920 like to buy a one way ticket and travel around the world. Interesting, 464 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.960 so say some more about that. How would that go? Well, my 465 00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:52.920 college roommate did that with one of our other college friends after they graduated from 466 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.119 William and Mary. They said, you know, you just we want to 467 00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:59.000 go have an adventure and they bought, I guess you can buy a one 468 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.000 way ticket going east or going west and go all the way around the world. 469 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.719 And they did, and they traveled for I don't know, six or 470 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.760 seven months. And I just think, you know, when I hear about 471 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.400 her stories, And of course this was a long time ago, and I've 472 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:21.119 been out of college many decades now, But just the idea of experiencing all 473 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.119 these different cultures and talking with different people and seeing how they all live. 474 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:28.280 I mean, I think that when we you know, and I've been fortunate, 475 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.800 I've been able to travel quite a bit, but I think when we 476 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:38.039 can see people who live differently than we do and have different priorities and values 477 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:44.599 and language and food and landscape and all of that, it just informs our 478 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:47.440 experience. You know. I think we here in America tend to be very 479 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:53.320 myopic, and when you go and travel other places in the world, you 480 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.239 go, oh, wait a minute, there's a different way of looking at 481 00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.440 things. So I would love to have that. Are there any particular places 482 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.199 that you would want to make sure that if you couldn't go everywhere, that 483 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.599 you wouldn't want to miss those? Yeah, I mean I definitely have a 484 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.400 bucket list. I mean, I'd love to get to Thailand. I'd love 485 00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:17.440 to get to New Zealand and Australia. Egypt's on my list. I actually 486 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.519 haven't been to England or Scotland, and I would like to do that just 487 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:28.960 because of my heritage, knowing that I'm from there. Yeah, those are 488 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.599 probably some of them. Good for you, how about you? It's on 489 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:42.719 your bucket list? Definitely New Zealand and Scotland, Australia, the UK certain 490 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.599 parts of it. I would love to do a pilgrimage to Liverpool. I 491 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:52.920 have dear friends that are you know, because I used to be president of 492 00:37:52.960 --> 00:38:00.440 a homeowners association of a community down in Florida for about fifteen years. Most 493 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.880 of the folks that lived there, my neighbors were all Brits, you know. 494 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.039 There were vacation rental homes for the most part, and then when it 495 00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:13.719 came time for our annual general meeting, they Brits would fly in from all 496 00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:15.400 over the world, you know, to come in and put their two cents 497 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:20.079 in, you know, either voting for you know who the board members were 498 00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.480 going to be or that. And I got was supposed to go on a 499 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:30.599 three week long trip in two thousand and nine and start off with three days 500 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:39.639 in Cork, followed up by landing in you know, in England and going 501 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:46.440 to five different locations they're all friends. Got completely you know, got scuttled 502 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:53.480 by the Raykvic volcano shut everything. Wow. We planned this trip for a 503 00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:59.239 year and the day that our trip was supposed to go, they reopened the 504 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:04.480 the you know, the airways again and by that time they were like three 505 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:08.719 weeks of no travel and it just didn't make any sense. So thank you 506 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:13.400 for asking me. And that's the long answer too. Is there anything on 507 00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:19.320 your bucket list? There's that, and there's more. Okay understood. Yeah, 508 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:28.559 So the next question, if you're thrown to give me answers you've already 509 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:30.679 given. I'm going to ask you to go a little bit deeper than that. 510 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.920 And I don't mean like better or anything like that, but maybe just 511 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.679 something else that kind of occurs to you right now. What's the most important 512 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:44.639 thing in life? To you right this minute. To me, it's just 513 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:51.440 about living life in technicolor, like really living it out loud and fully. 514 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:57.920 I was actually in an almost fatal car accident last year, wow, and 515 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.719 had a near death experience, and you know, couldn't work for about four 516 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:08.599 months, and it really it changed a lot of things. I mean, 517 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:14.480 I think I've always someone who has enjoyed life and you know, valued relationships 518 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.400 and doing good work in the world and being a service in all of that. 519 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:22.599 But having an accident like that at a you know, young age I'm 520 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.039 in my young fifties, you know, helped me to go, wow, 521 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:30.400 you know, I could have checked out, and we never know when our 522 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:37.480 time is up. And to just really be willing to take risks and have 523 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:43.440 fun and be playful and not worry what people think anymore, and not worry 524 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:46.159 about judging myself or others, and just say, you know, what feels 525 00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:52.119 good, and trust my intuition and just go out there and live life, 526 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.599 even if it doesn't always make sense. You know, I think I've always 527 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.559 been the logical, practical, you know, do what you're supposed to do. 528 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.239 And it's like result of William and Mary. I mean, I hear 529 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:07.719 that a lot from William and Mary Grat, so well, you know, 530 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.440 it was a pretty special place. But yeah, I mean, you know, 531 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.320 there was some traditional stuff there, and you know, I've certainly learned 532 00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.880 that from my parents. You know, you you grow up, you get 533 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.239 a job, you get married, you have kids. You know, sort 534 00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.280 of the blah blah blah. That's how we're supposed to do it. And 535 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:22.679 and you know, and I've done those things, but I'm also at a 536 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:28.039 stage of life, you know, as a newly divorced person, and you 537 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.320 know, single mama and business owner are going, okay, so what do 538 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.880 I want now for this next stage of my life? So well, I 539 00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.039 really love how you languaged it. And I know there's you know, there's 540 00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:45.880 there's ample input from all sorts of different books that would be kind of distilled 541 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.960 down into living out loud and in technic color. But when you said it 542 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:55.400 that your face lit up, you know, and I got to share that 543 00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:00.920 with the folks at home. You have a beautiful smile, and there's really 544 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:05.920 just a lot of energy that comes from you in terms of emoting, and 545 00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.159 I kind of get that there were new things that showed up for you, 546 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:15.840 possibly that you had never noticed before, or that maybe you had just kind 547 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.760 of like played over or played past while you were busy, you know, 548 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.159 doing the busy work that you were, you know, getting your life done. 549 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:28.239 And I'm real interested, you know, in addition to what you've said 550 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.159 already, is there anything in particular that you've kind of like picked up or 551 00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.000 decided that you were going to do that before you might have considered to be 552 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:44.440 a little frivolous or or maybe not so much. Hmm, that's a good 553 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:52.480 question. I don't know if I would say about frivolous, but definitely writing 554 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.639 more. Yeah, you know, writing has been somewhat a part of my 555 00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.519 path, but sort of there was a commitment to, Wow, I have 556 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.840 a lot I still need to say, and I better get to it. 557 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:09.039 And you know, it's interesting that my book came out about six months after 558 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.840 my accident, but I had been working on it. It was a seven 559 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.679 year process from when I started writing to when it actually got published. And 560 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.800 so just this notion of oh wait, if I have more to say, 561 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.159 I can't keep doing it in seven year increments or I'll never get everything done. 562 00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:30.000 So I'm gonna step it up a little bit that's that's funny. That's 563 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.199 just the opposite of what I was saying to my wife while we were on 564 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:37.519 the cruise. I love that you, and I want to ask you this 565 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:38.840 before I say what I'm going to say, because what you have to say 566 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.880 is far more important. So for you, is it? Would you, 567 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:49.880 you know, use a metaphor of peeling an onion skin or a fire hose 568 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.719 that you have to put some sort of a choke on so that you can, 569 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:58.480 like you, contain everything that's coming out. Which which metaphor would work 570 00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:02.480 better for you? It's probably more the feeling of the onion, although I 571 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.960 would say my head feels like the fire hose at times, but in terms 572 00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.320 of my actual output, it's more the you know, the feeling the layers 573 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:14.039 of the onion. Like let's let's keep getting deeper with this. And you 574 00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:15.360 know, as I've mentioned before, you know I have a real passion for 575 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:22.639 the topic of adoption, and I think because of my life experience and expertise 576 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.920 in that, you know, I have some things to contribute and instead of 577 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.880 doing it privately, I need to be doing it more publicly, and writing 578 00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.480 is a really good way to do that. To get the message out there 579 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.519 so well, having spent as little time as I have with you, the 580 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:43.320 quality of our interaction, as brief as it's been over the last couple of 581 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.679 weeks, I have to say I totally agree with you. I think you've 582 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:49.920 got some good stuff out there that will make a huge difference in the world. 583 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.920 Thank you. So I'm going to use that as a segue I didn't 584 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:58.840 intend to. But the next question is is what would you like to leave 585 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:07.679 in the world after you your life is done? M Okay, I'm trying 586 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.039 not to be too redundant, but you know, it goes back to that 587 00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:17.239 parenting thing of you know, if if I can raise a human being to 588 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:22.760 be good and loving and kind and decent and caring and a contributing member of 589 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:29.800 society, then that's the best possible legacy I could imagine. I mean, 590 00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:30.719 and everything else. I mean, sure, you know what, I love 591 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.519 to write more books, absolutely, you know what I love to you know, 592 00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:40.480 serve my community more and create circles of people and connections. Absolutely all 593 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:45.119 of that. But really, as a mama, I mean, I knew 594 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.800 when I was very little that I wanted to be a mom, and I've 595 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.559 been blessed with an incredible kid, and I think she's doing good stuff in 596 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:53.840 the world. And you know, when we look at the state of the 597 00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:57.719 world, and we don't want to talk about that right now, but you 598 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.519 know, things are challenging, and people are fractured and they're broken, and 599 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.400 we're having a hard time having conversations. And I think if we can raise 600 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:13.360 this next generation to be open and loving and be willing to have the card 601 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:17.239 conversations and teach them to not shy away from that, that's what's going to 602 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:23.119 help us get through this mess. Well, I like that, And if 603 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:28.320 I can pry, You've mentioned a couple of times about making a difference, 604 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:32.800 you know, in the area of adoption. Can you say maybe a little 605 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:38.800 bit more about that beyond your own personal reach. You've probably got the world's 606 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.800 best daughter, you know, in Riley, no doubt about it. So 607 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.360 I'm going to concede that to you right off the bat. And what about 608 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.400 everyone else? What would you like to leave them? Well? I think 609 00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:55.039 that around adoption. I think a lot of the work that I'll be writing 610 00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.960 about and talking more about is this notion of really looking at identify and you 611 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.480 know, how we show up in the world and how people who are impacted 612 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:09.960 by adoption their identity is something. I mean, I suppose we all deal 613 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:13.480 with identity issues at one time or another. You know, it's part of 614 00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:19.280 the human experience, right, right, right, right exactly. But I 615 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:27.960 think adoptees in particular and adoptive parents and biological parents have some different challenges. 616 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.599 And so really looking at that and understanding that, you know, is there 617 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:37.519 a spiritual contract there? You know, what can we learn from the relationships 618 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:43.480 that we have and how can we expand our ability to love all the different 619 00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.239 people in our lives? You know, we talk about like with my daughter 620 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.480 and with myself. You know, we don't have a family tree, we 621 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:53.079 have a family forest, and so you know, how can we integrate all 622 00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:58.880 of those relationships into our lives but into our identity and who we know ourselves 623 00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.079 to be. So so that's I think a lot of the work I want 624 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:06.320 to be doing is talking more to folks about that. Yeah, and what 625 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.360 I what I hear, you know, and what I'm inferring from what you're 626 00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:12.320 saying. I don't know if it's simplicit in what you're saying, but I 627 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.320 hear, you know, the discovery aspect you know, in terms of you 628 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:22.440 know, being a person in a forest as opposed to a tree allows you 629 00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:27.519 to kind of trip over things that you weren't expecting. I would imagine. 630 00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:30.679 That's I love how you just reflected that, Bill, Thank you. That 631 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:36.159 gives me a really good visual. Yeah, I mean because it opens doors 632 00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:37.440 to be like, oh, well wait, you know I see this, 633 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.079 and I see that, and what about this? And you know, like 634 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.559 we're raising our daughter to know that she has four parents. She has you 635 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.280 know, mom and dad, her adoptive parents, and then she has birth 636 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:51.800 mom and birth dad. And even though we may not all be you know, 637 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.199 active in her life, that's all part of who makes up who she 638 00:48:54.519 --> 00:49:00.119 is and where she comes from, and you know, being mindful of that 639 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.320 as she moves forward in the world. So yeah, and the other part 640 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:10.239 of it is is is you know, mindful, respectful and honoring of what 641 00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:16.400 came before and the value of who she is now and what she has in 642 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.360 her contribution that's unique, you know, to give to the rest of the 643 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:25.400 world in whatever way she chooses to that works for her. But never will 644 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:31.400 she ever have a day where there's not work to do. Yes, yes, 645 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:36.960 it's me talking but I'm kind of picking up non verbals from you. 646 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:42.199 Whether I get it right or not, it's not not necessarily the issue. 647 00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:46.519 Okay. So you know, do you do you do much bakery buying, 648 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.159 much bakery buying? You know, I don't. I'm one of those free 649 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:59.159 of gluten people you leave, leave all the glutens out there to just be 650 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:04.000 free range, right. I love bakeries, but yeah, I don't. 651 00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.280 I don't do much anymore of it. I just got a mind picture of 652 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.079 the smoky mountains just covered with a whole side with a huge herd of glutens, 653 00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:16.719 you know, just over enjoying the morning, you know, and the 654 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:22.800 mist coming up. And yeah, yeah, you have to ask your grandson 655 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.800 to draw you a picture of the glutens running free. See what he would 656 00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:30.679 draw? That's awesome, and he will because he's one heck of an artist. 657 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:36.559 So when I go to my favorite baker's, it's modest down here. 658 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.519 Been going to them for close to forty years, and when I buy a 659 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:44.800 dozen rolls, I always get a free one. I've never bought a dozen 660 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:47.760 loaves of bread, so I don't know what they would do in that circumstance, 661 00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:52.840 but anything else that's cupcakes or what have you? Cookies always going to 662 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:54.679 get a thirteenth one and you're going to get a baker's question. Are you 663 00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:59.960 ready? Okay? I am ready. So Elizabeth, what is the thing 664 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:15.159 that most people misunderstand about you? M that's an interesting question. Are you 665 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:20.039 into astrology at all? Bill? A little bit? Okay, it doesn't 666 00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.719 have to be dangerous, right, we can work with that. Okay, 667 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.920 there you go. All right. So I so I'm a Capricorn's son. 668 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.920 So on the surface, you know, I look like I have my act 669 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.960 together, right, and you know, for the most part, I do. 670 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:45.320 And I'm a Scorpio rising. And so what that means is that I 671 00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:52.840 really like the deep dive. I like to talk about the metaphysical, the 672 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.000 mystery, the mirror cales, you know, the curiosities in our universe. 673 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:04.360 And I love to really go deep in those conversations with people often quickly. 674 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:06.960 I mean, you and I have kind of like we've started a little bit 675 00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:13.280 of that here today. But yeah, so I think sort of the the 676 00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:22.760 upfront and the exterior is a little different than the the deeper dive conversationalist that's 677 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:27.960 here. Does that make sense? Well? It does and what you're saying 678 00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.000 is how it really is people. But what do you think they think about 679 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:37.800 you that just that you've got it all together and maybe you're still figuring things 680 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:43.280 out and doing the best you can to look like you've got everything figured out. 681 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:45.360 Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think people look at me and think, 682 00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.519 oh, you know, she's you know, got you know, a 683 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:52.599 good career and you know, great kid and loving family and friends, and 684 00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.280 you know, she's got her act together. But you know, for people 685 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:58.840 who've been in my world the last couple of years, they know it's been 686 00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:07.840 a virtual well, i'll use PG language dumpster fire. Let's say, you 687 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.199 know of you know, two moves and a divorce and two surgeries, and 688 00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.519 you know, two parents dying in a car accident, and you know, 689 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.920 it's been a really rough time kind of like you were talking about, you 690 00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:23.159 know, your three years of such great losses. Some people will would refer 691 00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:27.119 to that as a double ass. You know. There you go, That's 692 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:32.079 what I was going to say, but I it was appropriate. We have 693 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.039 had people, you know, drop an expletive every once in a while, 694 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:43.280 but I appreciate your appropriateness, and I wanted to also say that you know, 695 00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.800 having gone through everything that you've gone through, I want to commend you, 696 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:51.119 you know, not simply for looking like you have it all together, 697 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:57.840 but you know, you're obviously a self described work in progress, and I 698 00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:04.039 believe that's refreshing. I really appreciate your genuineness, and I also appreciate the 699 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.400 fact that you don't know the answers at this point. You have some ideas 700 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:10.960 of what the questions might be, and you're still working on the questions in 701 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.039 my opinion, Yes, yeah, yeah, living into the questions really and 702 00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:19.039 saying okay, so what's here? And I think the car accident really did 703 00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.320 that for me, kind of opened me up to be like, okay, 704 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:25.000 Universe, what you got for me, Let's see, let's see what shows 705 00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:29.239 up. Well. Yeah, and things were already cool, being the age 706 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.800 of Aquarius and all. I mean, you know, how far off base 707 00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:38.159 can you be, but you have lived through circumstances that you might not have 708 00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:44.800 is to give you a whole new way to look at the mundane. Yes, 709 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:51.760 yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. So that wraps up our standard 710 00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:55.519 questions. And I'll ask you, first of all, do you have any 711 00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:04.920 questions of me? I want to know what your favorite candy is. Talk 712 00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:09.599 about going deep, all right, So I have to make deals with myself 713 00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:16.599 here, Okay, I would probably say that in my lifetime I have probably 714 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:23.320 purchased at least five hundred dollars worth of fireballs, all right. So you 715 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:29.679 love the cinnamon, well, there's there's that, and I like it lasts 716 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:34.599 a long time, you know. And then you know, I got started 717 00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.360 buying the big plastic thing that looks like it goes on the counter. You 718 00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:42.599 know. When I was a kid, we went in and they would take 719 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.199 that out of the box, they put it on the counter, and then 720 00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:49.559 it was penny a fireball, right, or two of the small ones for 721 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:53.320 a penny. We went on a camping trip with my girls, which would 722 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:57.960 probably have been back in the early nineteen eighties, and I bought one of 723 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.719 those bad boys, and all of us were eating the fireballs all week long. 724 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:07.400 And so after that, you know, I just wound up continuously buying 725 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:14.239 fireballs. There's also, and I'll tell you I don't want to upset, 726 00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:19.920 you know, the jolly rancher gods, because there's a lot to be said 727 00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:23.719 for jolly ranchers as well. First of all, there's a whole diversity. 728 00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:29.519 You can have a symphony in your mouth with a watermelon, you know, 729 00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.800 a cinnamon, a blueberry, and then I mean you you can put in 730 00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.239 an you know, a player to be named later and just have a really, 731 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:45.239 really good time. And the other thing is is that dark milk chocolate. 732 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:54.320 I would say maybe seventy percent coo and up breakup is the best. 733 00:56:55.079 --> 00:57:00.400 So if I had to go someplace and choose three candies for the rest of 734 00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:02.800 my life, I would be good. I'd take all three of them. 735 00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.119 But if you told me Bill you only get one, I would be conflicted. 736 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.199 Great question, did you learn anything? It's funny. Well, you're 737 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:20.559 a little spicy, so that's fun The fireball shows that you're a little spicy. 738 00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:27.880 What my daughter says, that's great? Good And so do you have 739 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:32.039 any other things that you just want to like mention before I have you again? 740 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:35.800 Say who you are and how do people get in touch with you? 741 00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:40.880 Is there anything else that you want to say about either this interview or anything 742 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:45.039 else that's on your mind that you'd like to just kind of get out in 743 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.719 terms of this might be your opportunity to change the world. Who knows, 744 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:55.000 well, I just want to acknowledge our new connection as a part of the 745 00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:01.440 Faces of Grief compilation that we're going to be working on because I think, 746 00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.360 you know, it seems in the zeitgeist and maybe this has really been since 747 00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:12.119 the pandemic, but more and more people are open to talking about grief and 748 00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:17.760 we're acknowledging that we are all walking around carrying grief and that I think that's 749 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:22.440 a really good thing because what's happening is people are taking off the masks and 750 00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.880 we're sharing our vulnerabilities, and we're connecting in deeper ways and we're authentic ways 751 00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.760 with people, and I think that's a beautiful thing. So I'm happy to 752 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:32.880 be part of that with you and with Sam Ruth and all the other people. 753 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:38.280 And I love your interview process, you know, simple questions for one 754 00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:43.920 hundred people. I think that's awesome because that's how we learn about the world 755 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.199 around us, right is by sharing our story. So thanks for letting me 756 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.519 share mine. Yeah, I got to tell you, you know, people 757 00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:54.679 are like snowflakes, no tour the same right, you know, and anybody 758 00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:58.639 wants to tell you that you're part of a group that all thinks the same 759 00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:05.400 way. I think they're full of fireballs, right right, exactly. Well, 760 00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.360 having said that, is there anything else would you like to again kind 761 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:13.400 of identify how you people get in contact with you if you want, Yeah, 762 00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:17.079 sure, certainly by my websites. So my name again, it's Elizabeth 763 00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:22.360 Barber and it's spelled B A R B O your dot com, so Elizabeth 764 00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:28.159 Barber dot com. And then I have another website called Sacred Celebrations dot Com, 765 00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.159 which is the name of my books Sake, my second book, Sacred 766 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:34.960 Celebrations. But I also have a jewelry line there, which we didn't talk 767 00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:38.199 about. But so I have a jewelry line there and some gift kits and 768 00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:42.320 things like that, and people can find me on social media. I tend 769 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:45.599 to hang out mostly on Facebook and Instagram, a little bit on LinkedIn at 770 00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:53.440 Elizabeth Barber. So horrific. You are completely and absolutely delicious and wonderful. 771 00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:58.760 Okay, I really enjoy you, and I thank you for coming on here 772 00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:06.039 embracing our podcast. And I would want to just leave at this moment by 773 01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.719 saying thank you, Elizabeth, thank you, You're very welcome, and you 774 01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:14.880 folks at home, I want to leave you with this thought too. We 775 01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.639 all know a lot of people. But I want you to get in the 776 01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:23.599 habit of reaching out to folks that you really love. Could be good friends, 777 01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:29.239 could be folks you work with, could be a family member. Reach 778 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:35.679 out either by you know, text, any other kind of message, telephone, 779 01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:39.079 call, carrier, pigeon, letter, what have you. Let them 780 01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:45.639 know that it means everything to you that they're in the world and that it 781 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:50.119 would really not be a great world without them. And if they ever are 782 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.599 thinking that they need a friend, you're that person that they can count on 783 01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:59.239 to always be there. If you'll do that for me and then challenge your 784 01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:01.760 friends and family to do that, let's just see if we can make a 785 01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:06.000 difference with some of the things that are not going well in this world. 786 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:13.639 Having said that, this is the Simple Questions for one hundred People podcast. 787 01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:19.320 Again. I'm Bill Correll and it has been absolutely wonderful Elizabeth Barber to have 788 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.719 you as my guest today. Thank you again, Thanks so much. Bye 789 01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:28.320 everybodyp bye. Now you've been listening to Simple Questions for one hundred People, 790 01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:32.559 part of the x Audio podcast network. You can find every episode at xadio 791 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:38.119 dot com, Slash podcasts, the Apple podcast app, Google podcasts, Spotify, 792 01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:42.119 iHeartRadio, and wherever you find podcasts.