WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:04.240 Well, what I mean by that is in nineteen sixty nine we were able 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:07.919 to go to the Moon, and here we are over three decades later, 3 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:12.560 and we can barely get to lowerth orbit. And I think by any measure, 4 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:16.000 that is a step backwards. Is that for a lack of leadership or 5 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:20.719 technology, I think we made the wrong technological choices. And I think there 6 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:26.120 was also a lack of will at the highest levels of government to take the 7 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:30.000 next step and well, at least go at least stay on the Moon and 8 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:34.159 perhaps build a base there, and then go beyond the Moon to Mars. 9 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:38.840 And if you look at the news articles in the late sixties early seventies, 10 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:43.439 the expectation was that by now in the twenty first century, we would have 11 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:47.479 a Moon base and probably even a Mars base. And I think if you'd 12 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:51.840 asked anyone at that point in time whether we would be unable to go to 13 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:56.439 the Moon and have no not have been to Mars, I think they would 14 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:00.719 think you're crazy. Do we need a leadership in that realm? Do we 15 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:04.319 need a John F. Kennedy who sets a goal for us when he said, 16 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.879 one one day man will walk on the moon. Do we need that 17 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:12.560 kind of leadership for this technology to move forward in that big step. I 18 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:18.840 do think it's it's very important the president set the priority and and and determine 19 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:22.519 the goal. Uh. You know that that reals nation will aspire to. 20 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:29.239 And you know, George Bush has his pluses and minuses, but at least 21 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.959 one plus is that he has helped to steer the space program in a direction 22 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:36.920 that that more or less makes sense. You know. The only thing I 23 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:38.359 would I would sort of argue with is that I don't think we should be 24 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:41.640 going back to the Moon. I think we should be focused on Mars. 25 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:45.000 I think we saw the Do you think that's a mistake focusing on the Moon. 26 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:47.560 I do think I do think we should rather go I think we should 27 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:49.719 rather be focused on on Mars. You know, the Moon is kind of 28 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.439 like it's kind of like the Arctic. It's just it's just a very barren 29 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:59.480 place and very very little resources. It's small, it's not it's not really 30 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:05.439 a place that we could establish another human civilization. There's a there's a there's 31 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.760 a feeling of been there, done that too with the Moon. Yes, 32 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:09.000 we saw that movie of the sixties, you know, and the room makes 33 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:13.479 never as good did we really go to the moon? Ah, yes, 34 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:20.840 we definitely just wanted to try. The government is incapable of suppressing a conspiracy 35 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.639 of that nature, of that newture. It's okay, good this ambition to 36 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:29.719 explore space. Absolutely, that's entrepreneur There's there's quite a bit of competition out 37 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:32.840 there. There's Jeff Bezos with Blue Origin, There's Richard Branson with his Virgin 38 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:38.159 Galactic and I'm not talking about NASA either. There's Paul Allen, there's the 39 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:43.719 European Space Agency in Boeing and Lockheed Martin, the Chinese, the Russians, 40 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.560 let's just throw all of them into this. Everyone doing a competitive field. 41 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:53.240 How is SpaceX different? How do you think you'll sort of surpass them? 42 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:58.919 Well, you know you've You've listed a wide range of entities there, and 43 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:04.879 I think the differences are really different depending upon which one you're referring to. 44 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:07.199 The Well, let me ask you this question. Who is your competition? 45 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:19.800 We have no serious competition, No, not presently. Who's chasing you? 46 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:28.439 Well, if you mean chasing and have and has a serious chance of catching, 47 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:36.240 then I think none that I'm aware of. And Biden saying you guys 48 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.520 kind of a hack. Then, well, what Brandson is saying, by 49 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.840 the way, I'm a great admirer of Branson, is really a much smaller 50 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:51.360 technological challenge. So their craft would be suborbital, so it would go to 51 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:55.599 about mark three. Our craft is orbital. It goes to mark twenty five, 52 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:59.599 so twenty five times to speed a sound. But that doesn't describe the 53 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:03.719 whole scale of difficulty because the energy required to get to those philosophies scales is 54 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:08.439 the square of the placity. So to do what Branson is doing, you 55 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:11.439 need to say about nine units of energy. To do what we're doing, 56 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:15.280 you need six hundred and twenty five units of energy. The difference is monumental. 57 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:17.199 And then when you re enter you have to you have to burn off 58 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:21.959 all that energy, so that doubles the problem. Really, So, I 59 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:26.040 mean, what Branson is doing, for a technological standpoint, is building something 60 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:29.000 that can cross the English Channel. What we're building is something that can circum 61 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:33.839 navigate the globe. It's a very different scale of technological difficulty. I still 62 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:35.560 think what he's doing is great, and by the way, I bought a 63 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:41.040 ticket on his effort. Yeah, yeah, so I still think it's great, 64 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:45.879 but it's not in the same league technologically, so you're not particularly worried, 65 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:49.120 certainly not about no certinly not about that. Now the things that worry 66 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:55.079 me are are we going to make a mistake? The things that can really 67 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.720 hurts face x are I mean, our own foolishness, our own errors can 68 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.240 hurt us. But not none of the competition that I'm aware of. So 69 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:06.560 generally you're worried about what's in front of you, not the other guy. 70 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:12.120 And in fact, you probably don't think about them in terms of how they 71 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:15.399 criticize you or what they think about you. I don't think actually, I 72 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.759 don't think there's much criticism. I mean Boeing and Luckied of course that they 73 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:23.480 would criticize, but I don't think any of the entrepreneurial guys would criticize what 74 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:27.120 we're doing. And it certainly possibly I think, you know, what Jeff 75 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.000 Bezos is working on could ultimately, I mean, he does have aspirations to 76 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.959 get to over and beyond. It's just that what they're doing right now is 77 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:38.279 sub orbital and at the sort of lower technology level. What I think about 78 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:42.720 at spaces is really entirely what are we doing to ensure that our rocket is 79 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:49.279 going to be successful and that we are truly optimizing the cost and ensuring a 80 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:53.399 higher liability. I mean, that's just a very very difficult problem. There's 81 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:58.079 a reason why there's an an atomatic expression about rocket science being hard. It 82 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:03.519 really is really hard. Science really is rocket science. Yeah, it looks 83 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:08.240 hard, and it's harder than it looks. What's the big goal here, 84 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:13.319 what's the long term plan? Well, that the long term ultimate objective that 85 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.720 the holy grail is. We would like to help make life multiplanetary. That's 86 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:23.920 really what we'd like to do, so establish societies on as many planets as 87 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:27.759 possible. Uh. Well, yeah, I think there's only one possibility. 88 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:30.120 But yeah, I mean even if we can just go from one planet to 89 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.319 two, I think that's a pretty big step. And you'll start with well 90 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:39.319 Mars. Mars is the only viable, viable planet, so multiplanetary life. 91 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:44.000 Yeah, it's helped make life multiplanetary. I think that's an important thing. 92 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:48.120 I don't think your goal is big enough. Hah, Yeah, it's ambitious. 93 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.000 Well, like I said, we don't expect to do it single handedly, 94 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.480 but we certainly would like to help make it happen. It's fair to 95 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.959 say you've made a fortune. Yeah, I think so, if you have 96 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.439 any reasonable standard. Yeah, And you know, those who work in aliens 97 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:05.199 probably understand your trajectory. But there are those who are watching who would think 98 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.720 if I made that money, I'd sit on a beach, I'd drink beer, 99 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:13.439 and I would just watch the sunset, kind of like a Corona beer 100 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.120 commercial. Have you ever thought about that as a career option? You know, 101 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:19.519 I find that really pretty boring, So that would be torture if I 102 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.759 had to do that every day, that would really be pretty awful for me. 103 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:29.560 Is there something about startup businesses that really fuels your desire to work? 104 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:39.480 Well, I guess I really need to be preoccupied with something and if I'm 105 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.000 just sort of sitting there relaxing, I can only do that for a very 106 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:46.800 short period of time and then it becomes unbearable. Although startups definitely have their 107 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.399 highs and lows. And as a friend of mine who has a good phrase, 108 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.519 you know, a startup business is like eating glass and staring into the 109 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.519 abyss. What is the criteria that you established for yourself or a startup? 110 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:03.079 Meanwhy want business over? Yeah? Well, for me, it's always about 111 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.920 does what I'm doing matter if we are successful, does it matter to the 112 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:13.879 world, And so there are easier ways to make money than starting a rocket 113 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:18.560 company, or say a car company, or even when I started an Internet 114 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.279 company, because when I started the first Internet company, nobody had made any 115 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:26.600 money, and it wasn't clear that anyone would make any money. It was 116 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.399 simply from the perspective of the Internet being a very important thing and something that 117 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:33.200 needed to be built, and so I wanted to help at Well, you 118 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.360 touch upon something that's interesting is that there is a that benefiting humanity is a 119 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:43.919 very integral part of your criteria no matter what you're starting up. Yes, 120 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:48.440 absolutely, really not everybody has that as a prime interest. I think that's 121 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.919 probably relatively unusual, although there are many people that I know in Silicon Valley 122 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.679 for whom that is a significant motivation. You said in your endeavor here to 123 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:01.720 explore space that we are committed to failing in a new way if nothing else. 124 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.320 What did you mean by that? Just how it sounds? Well, 125 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.840 I mean we're I mean we're committed to succeed, really, but if we 126 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.200 do fail, I would hope that we at least add to the body of 127 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:20.159 knowledge such that those who follow may make few mistakes. Now, if Mars 128 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.320 were not enough, you are busy here on earth, the world is not 129 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.320 enough. That's right for you? Where? What have you? No limits? 130 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:35.159 My friend? Here on earth you are establishing a presence, certainly with 131 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.799 Tesla Motors. Tell us a little bit about that. This is your electric 132 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.440 car company, correct, right? And this is no this is no hybrid 133 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:45.759 car you could buy on a car lot. This thing goes from zero to 134 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.120 sixteen four seconds? Is that y? Absolutely? Is there a sixteen under 135 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:52.120 four seconds? It's faster, a better acceleration than any Porsch currently in production, 136 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.679 and any Frari except the Enzo. And it's twice the energy efficiency of 137 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.919 a Prius. So it's you. We have the moral high ground, and 138 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.919 you get to, you know, leave the Ferrari guy in your dust. 139 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.159 So well, let me start to be let me ask the obvious. Well, 140 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.559 and you don't look like one of those guys who's trying too hard in 141 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.039 a Ferrari. Absolutely, yeah, you don't look like a jerk, you 142 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:22.480 know, you know, up right banana yellow Lamborghini or or I mean there's 143 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:24.480 something I shoul point out about Tesla, which is, uh, we didn't 144 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.480 you know Tesla is the first car is a sports car, not because we 145 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.559 think the world lacks for a sports car, but because it is the right 146 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.559 entry point for the market. If you have a new technology, the right 147 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.240 place to enter is high unit cost, low unit volume. Just as you 148 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:41.799 know when when when a new cell phone come out comes out, or a 149 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.399 new a new laptop or some some new thing, it tends to be expensive 150 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.600 at first because they're figuring out all the issues and it takes time to optimize, 151 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.240 and then over time that that technology will become cheaper and cheaper. And 152 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.360 so the model two of Tesla, uh, and maybe I'm leaping ahead here, 153 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:03.480 but Model two of Tesla is a forty nine thousand dollars four door, 154 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.960 five passenger sedan, and that's that's going to be obviously a much broader market 155 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.240 segment that that that can make use of that car. And then Model three 156 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:15.919 is intended to be around a thirty thousand dollars price point, and so that's 157 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:20.240 that's really affordable by by almost everyone who's who's who can buy a new car. 158 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.320 So the idea is to drive to mass market as rapidly as possible, 159 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:30.279 but only at the pace at which the technology matures. So is Henry Ford, 160 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.320 and of someone you admire, well, I think Henry Ford made some 161 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:39.360 very important contributions to UH, to business and obviously you know, moving moving, 162 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.559 manufacturing line and that sort of thing. So I think he's certainly worthy 163 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:43.960 of admiration. Uh here's a bit of an od duct but you know, 164 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.200 certainly noteworthy. But the interest in Tesla's is not from the perspective of, 165 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:54.720 you know, the world needs another car company. It's more from the perspective 166 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.320 of we have a very important environmental problem that needs to be addressed, which 167 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:03.639 is and buy the burning of fossil fuels and the increasing CO two concentration in 168 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.440 the atmosphere and global climate change, which I think is going to be one 169 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.279 of the most significant issues of the twenty first century. And the only way 170 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:15.559 to really get around that, in my view, is really with an electric 171 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:20.159 vehicle, and then you need to pair that up with a zero mission power 172 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.399 generation method such as solar power. I think is solar power is going to 173 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:28.919 be a really big deal. Tesla's not a hybrid car. Tesla's pure electric, 174 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.399 pure electric. So help connect the dots from me, why aren't we 175 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.600 seeing Tesla cars on the car lots, then well, what's keeping them made 176 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.200 them yet? So we're just finishing up the development right now, and anybody 177 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:43.440 can buy this, yes, how will you? Actually we've almost sold out 178 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.519 of two thousand and seven productions, so if somebody does want to buy an 179 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.240 next year's model, that they better act quickly. One of the primary complaints 180 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.799 about hybrid vehicles is there not fast enough. You seem to overcome it. 181 00:12:52.879 --> 00:13:00.559 You won't have any trouble with this. In fact, really there's something uniquely 182 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.799 better about electric vehicles, which is that the talk response is immediate. So 183 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:09.559 if you want to pass someone, I mean you just the response to the 184 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.679 car is very immediate. It's just it's more fun to drive an electric car 185 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.120 than it is to drive a gasoline car. You know, I was going 186 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.240 to say that Tesla the car, the name of the car company is no 187 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.039 coincidence, is It'll explain a little bit about that, right. The company 188 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.639 is named after Nikola Tesla, who is an inventor. He was originally from 189 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:33.320 the sort of the area of Yugoslavia and Europe, but he moved to America 190 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:37.519 when he was young and was an inventor of the ac induction motor. Invented 191 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:41.159 a lot of the principles of magnetism. So he was a great man, 192 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:45.759 a great, great inventor, and so the company is named in honor of 193 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:50.039 him. So these cars, the Tesla Roaster first, the first issue of 194 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:54.559 the Tesla Roaster available in two thousand and seven. Yes, in the spring 195 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.120 the summer. How do you get on the waiting list? Well, you 196 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.919 buy the car. You basically put down at a positive and we've actually can 197 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.679 you do that through the web. Yeah, we'll have, by the way, 198 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.480 customer centers all around the country. So we'll have one in La, 199 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:13.000 one of the various Cargo Miami, New York, and eventually nationwide customer centers 200 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.840 where somebody does want to see the current person take a test drive or see 201 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.919 the car being worked on. I mean, we have this idea for the 202 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.799 way that the car is a serviced that it should be a really really pleasant 203 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:26.440 experience. So we have you know, some some some somewhere between, like 204 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.480 a Starbucks and Apple store. So you'd go in and you'd see the car 205 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.840 being the cars being worked on behind a glass partition. That would be your 206 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.919 car you're watching or somebody else's again, but it's really clean it's really clean, 207 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.879 present bright, It'll be sort of a you know, coffee bar available, 208 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.559 you know, just a we really want to have a very pleasant experience 209 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:48.159 that that you don't typically get if you go into a dealership. Have you 210 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.799 heard from Toyota, Have you heard from General Motors and Ford saying use the 211 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.759 company for sale? Nobody's actually made a formal offer. But the interesting you 212 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:01.279 know, I think one of the one of the big values that Tesla can 213 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.240 can provide is serving as an example to the rest of the auto industry because 214 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.559 right now, the order interest, you know, the big car companies believe 215 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.639 that a biable electorcy vehicle is not possible and be if even if it wise 216 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.399 people would buy it. So we need to show that neither of those are 217 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.679 true, that the technology works, that people want to buy it, and 218 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:24.720 that will be the most effective way of really driving change in the in the 219 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:26.960 order industries by serving as an example in that matter. And if we were 220 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.080 to sell the company to one of one of the big car compans, I 221 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.039 think it would really slow things down. Mm hmm, you think so. 222 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:39.799 Absolutely. You're very busy enterprising the part of your company that will explore space. 223 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.519 You're very busy with this car company? Where do you find time to 224 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:48.120 be CEO of two companies that size? Well, I should correct you that 225 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:52.840 I'm CEO of SpaceX and I'm chairman of SpaceX, and that is really my 226 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.720 day job. So I spent eighty percent of my time on SpaceX. I 227 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.679 am the chairman and the principal owner of Tesla Motors, but I do not 228 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.720 run it on a daily basis. You don't run that on a daily basis. 229 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.399 Well, that was really the question was how do you do How do 230 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:10.639 you run those two large enterprises on a daily basis? Is it a couple 231 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:12.519 of phone calls or the Tesla folks? How's it going? I'm busy without 232 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.320 her space right now, you guys got that covered. I spent about I 233 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:21.360 spent about two to three days a month on Tesla related business and almost all 234 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.320 the rest of the time is on SpaceX. So SpaceX is very much my 235 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:30.519 my day to day job. And then I provide product guidance, strategic guidance, 236 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:34.720 and obviously funding for Tesla. Like Steve Jobs, right, so he 237 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.399 runs Apple on a daily basis, but he also, you know, has 238 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:45.399 overside over Pixar's It's kind of like that and in your day to day and 239 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:48.960 this is this is one of those silly lifestyle questions. But how early do 240 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:53.399 you get up in the morning, and where do you go to work physically? 241 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.159 Is it an office? Yeah? I go to work at SpaceX. 242 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.159 How early do you get up in the morning. You know, I'm not 243 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:04.519 an early morning person so young like for young engineers and for inventors and creators, 244 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.440 they can sleep in until ten or eleven. We have no fixed hours 245 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:11.960 at SpaceX. I mean my personally, I would I tend to get up 246 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.519 around seven thirty or eight and be a campus around there nine nine thirty, 247 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:19.400 But then I tend to state about it till about eight pm. Okay, 248 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.720 college students across America are saying, oh drats, I thought he was going 249 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.640 to say, like noon. But then you go into an office and you 250 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:30.319 you sit with in a separate office away from those who are working, or 251 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.200 do you sit with No, I just have a cubicle at SpaceX. You 252 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.000 have a cubicle, yeah, And are you surrounded by your colleagues there? 253 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:41.279 And what is your hope in terms of the impact you will leave on culture, 254 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.039 this civilization, this world, global civilization? What is it that you 255 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.599 you hope to leave here, Well, I think what I'd like to do 256 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.960 is help solve some important problems. So I think, in a small way, 257 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:59.440 help build the Internet. And then with respect to the global warning problem 258 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:04.279 that the transition from away from oil and other hydrocobins to something which is clean 259 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:08.720 and sustainable, I hope to have an impact there. And then with respect 260 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:15.079 to space, I hope to have an impact in helping make humanity a multiplanet 261 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.319 species. Elon Musk, thank you so much for being with us at wire 262 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.160 Science to let me get a straight CEO of SpaceX and chairman of Tesla Motors. 263 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.039 Yeah, I got other titles, but that's about That's a