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I think that they want to fully
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involvement, if any was welcome to
London calling with me, James denn Pole

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and my very good friend mister Toby
Young. Happy Easter, Toby, Happy

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Easter. James. I'll bet you
didn't go to church. I didn't,

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did you sound good? The son
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go to church? I'm afraid,
James, he's become a little bit lapsed

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and slightly lost interest and hasn't been
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accusing him of only having got baptized
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what, I did that for the
same reason? Pretty much. I'm not

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sure that is his reason, but
he's just I don't think he was doing

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it for most new reasons. I
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well, that's very sad. Um. Well, I did go to church,

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obviously, and before we went we
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to try and decide what things were
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And my son, who's back from
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mommy was missing him, and she
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Um. He said, women singing
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I said, inevitable, inevitable invocation
of Ukraine. And we thought that we'd

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get bonus points if if the name
Zelenski was mentioned in a kind of heroic

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light, and rather disappointingly, we
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singing was atrocious, absolutely atrocious,
and we now no longer have an organist,

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so so we had to have piped
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and as so often I find with
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from the days when you used to
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they always seem to be pitched in
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other than a sort of trained chorister
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I don't know, it was impossible. So the singing was crab and the

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vicar, who was one of those
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a small church and lots of lots
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but there wasn't old enough vicars to
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really promisingly by mentioning Ukraine, and
he even pronounced Kief Kiev, which I

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thought was we were onto a good
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was actually he was only mentioning Ukraine
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Rather, I don't want to be
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to a speech by Karin who apparently
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and made a speech against Christianity and
anyway the Christians in his audience weren't having

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it. After he'd delivered this hour
long dia tribe against Christianity, this orthodox

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monk spoke up and he said Christ
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said he has risen, allelujah.
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a winning, winning thing about you
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go into Zelensky and he didn't,
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But it's almost everyone in the Church
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as well, mentions Ukraine as a
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certainly the ones I go to.
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I went to a service. We
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doing I mentioned this before doing early
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when they were originally before they do
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And we were wandering around beforehand and
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Wells, no buf buff Bath Abbey
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to go in there, but they
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closed. We've got a service now, and we said, oh, we'll

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have some of that So we walked
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in, just at that point that
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and I was about to get cross, but luckily he sort of mentioned

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it in a kind of He wasn't
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T shirt. He wasn't really batting
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for Toby, Like when you love
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of England is part of the deep
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over Ukraine. Yes, did I
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I think? He? I'm not
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prelate, but he was a trainee
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Free Speech Union. He reached out
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That did ever tell you that story? So a trainee vicar in the Church

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of England had either his third or
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celebratory tweet about it, in which
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him and his wife to bring children
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married couples to have as many children
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Psalm about it being our duty to
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triggered an immediate pilot on Twitter,
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you be so insensitive? Don't you
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with infertility and just to have one
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to effectively brag about having three is
incredibly insensitive. And then others objecting that

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it was very environmentally unsound of him
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how much carbon children generally omit.
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I mean, it was literally a
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of angry people had piled on to
condemn him for this insensitive treat and it

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turned out that the vast majority of
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England, and I guess they were
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of them, maybe more than one, complained to his archdeacon about this and

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claimed that essentially he wasn't fit to
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if he was going to tweet such
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and instead of dismissing this and saying
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isn't yet a disqualification from becoming a
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opened into him, which is why
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Union and we managed, we managed
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to go on a course of therapy
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this tweet had upset people in the
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So the conclusion, James, is
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if you quote from the Psalms in
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you're mad, they think you're literally
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course of therapy to correct your thinking. Quite amazing, and that that that

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prompts the question why has the Church
of England becomes so captured by the woke

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cult? And it has. I
don't know if you saw, but earlier

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this week I think though in his
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of Canterbury, the leader of the
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England was setting aside one hundred million
pounds to compensate people for to compensate the

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descendants of slaves because of the church's
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million. Whoa a lot more than
the Guardian. So the Guardian in response

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to the revelations that the founder of
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had links to the slave trade,
not surprising since it was set up in

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Manchester, you know, by people
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in response to this said it would
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reparations. Ten million is zero point
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Trust's Scott Trust one million pound endowment. So it's it's it's a lot better

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than the Guardians billions to paid blood
money. Yeah, the Guardian has a

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billion in endowment and extraordinary it set
aside ten million, which is zero point

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one percent. How was the Guardian
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when it was the Manchester Guardian.
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where it did actually make money.
Is that right or how can it?

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I don't think it's I don't think
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its success when it was the Manchester
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made a number of good deals and
various people have given money to it.

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I mean it sold what Auto Trader
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year ago, and the and the
and the kind of the much commented thing

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about Matt sale was that the Guardian
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in the camera. Famously, the
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paying tax in spite of hectoring everyone
else about to answer your question. Yeah,

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it's it's very obvious that suppose you're
the devil and you are you want

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to um make your displeasure known about
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Where are you going to attack?
You're going to attack? Well obvious

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you're going to attack the church,
aren't. You're going to chat the stablished

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church. You're going to You're going
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it's happened with the Catholic Church,
it's happened with the Anglican Church. I

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mean I've often said this before.
I think Welby and the current pope are

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both batting for the other side.
I don't. I don't believe that they

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are men of God at all.
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of a lot of clergy. It's
what happens, it's it's um, I

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mean a lot of frustrated by it. If you're serious, James, how

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do you imagine it works? Do
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the same way that the devil visited
Doctor Faustus and strikes a bargain with them.

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Yeah, they agree to promote the
devil's work work, they get something

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in return. It's sort of like
that. I think that the works of

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literature like Doctor Faustus are a very
good, um, dramatized version of the

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process. I don't. I don't
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a with a with a long tail, comes and materializes on their shoulder,

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like in a kind of Disney cartoon
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or whatever, and it's not like
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that if you look at the writings
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John talks about this, that the
reverse to the devil as the God of

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this world. I think it's it
could be actually it's more want to be

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poor. I think Um talks about
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this world, and so we are
constantly exposed to darbolical temptation, and I

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mean lots of us get noveled on
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what happened too. I mean whether
I don't know whether well Be Evil was

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a man of God or whether Hope
Francis was, but I think that that

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ship said long ago when they were
actually decent, honest Christians. Yeah,

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Um, I mean one of the
reasons I find it curious, quite curious

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that the Church of England, I
think slightly less less, say the Catholic

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Church. Catholic seemed to have slightly
more antibodies to the woke virus, but

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the Church of England Anglicans seem to
have none at all. And one of

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the reasons that's the prizing is that
one kind of common hypothesis, a popular

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theory as to why the woke cult
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and in particular amongst you high income
liberal women, is it fills the god

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shaped whole left by the ebbing away
of the Christian tide. Those those people

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that those demographics that have become the
most secular, you know, over the

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last twenty five to fifty years or
so, seemed to be the demographics most

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susceptible to woke gobbledegook. But if
that's the case, if that does partly

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explain the success of this cult,
how do you explain it's penetration of the

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Church of England. Well, perhaps
the explanation is that there is a God

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shaped whole amongst most Anglicans that they
really are so little. The church has

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been so hollowed out. They've now
you know, that they have so little

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commitment to orthodox Christian beliefs and have
compromised so often that actually there is a

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bit of a hole bear and so
this kind of alternative creed has filled that

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whole. And I think I think
that I think that's part of it.

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But I also think that people like
Justin Welby believe that if the Church embraces

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the woke cult, if it says
it understands you know why people are unhappy

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about Britain's involvement in the slave trade, and why the Church needs to make

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amends for that and all institutions do, and why they need to apologize,

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and so on and so forth.
He thinks that that will make the church

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relevant again, that will detoxify,
modernize the Anglican Church and bring people back

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into the pews, when it has
exactly the opposite effect. I think I've

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talked about this before. There was
always there's always the narrative explanation, the

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one that goes with the the eye
catching initiative explanation, which is that yes,

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well Bees trying to reach out,
trying to make amends. That's the

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official version, the unofficial worst version, and also the real reason is because

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he's doing the devil's bidding. That's
that's what it's about. I mean,

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you think about it objectively, it
is monstrous. I'm sure God is absolutely

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appalled at seeing a hundred million pounds
which could look There aren't many vicars in

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the Church of England, including the
I know the one that you mentioned earlier

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on that these people have a very
very tough time making making a living.

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The church doesn't really support them anymore, and it should be supporting it's it's

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it's priests, but they're going out
to prince the Lord's work Otherwise, what's

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the point of the church if you
haven't got got priests doing the Lord's work?

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That where's this? Where would that
one hundred million go to you?

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How would you find a slave?
I mean, there aren't any slaves to

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give the money to, So you'd
be talking about descendants of slaves, many

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of whom may have may have actually
done frightfully well since their great great great

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great great grandfather got released as a
result of the efforts of the British Navy.

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It's it's it's a nonsense, and
it's insulting and and it's it's not

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something that the church should be engaging
with. And by doing this, I

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think that well being is ilk are
thumbing there their noses at God. I

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think it's it's outrageous. There's a
there's a there's a third strand to my

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analysis, which is which I have
to credit Tom Holland, the historian,

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which is that actually there is quite
a lot in common between Christian doctrine and

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kind of woke theology, in that
they both venerate victims in the same way

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that Nietzsche said Christianity was a slave
religion. It venerates the week, it

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venerates the victims. It says the
week shall inherit the earth. It was

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a kind of way to compensate unique, not the week the meek. And

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so we see the same, we
see the same, the same things you

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know in in in the woke cult, a veneration of victimhood, believing that

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being meek is virtuous. John's not
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I think it's a norm Christian perspective. I thought because he's twisting it

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slightly, because they're not like martyrdom
for example. I mean, he's right

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about how the blood of the martyrs
s the church. It does make a

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big deal, but it's but it's
about it's about sacrifice. It's it's it's

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about the mortification of the flesh.
It's about about making heart, choosing the

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hard path. It's not about claiming, speciously claiming victimhood, which is what

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what you're really talking about. They're
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the Christian suffering and victimhood is not
the same as as woke people posturing trying

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to plain the more high ground by
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I interviewed David Starkey on stage at
a British at the British as An event

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organized by the British Hungarian Society last
week, and he made this analogy.

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He said that in the same way
that Christianity proved to be the ultimate undoing

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of the Roman Empire, you know, against all expectations given us rather unpromising

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beginnings, Similarly, the woke cult
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civilization, of the kind of remaining
kind of ruin of Christendom. And just

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as we underestimated Christianity, or the
Romans rather underestimated Christianity, so we shouldn't

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underestimate the potentially destructive power of the
woke cult. And he thought for similar

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reasons, they appeal to people who
identified as oppressed, who didn't like the

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kind of prevailing regime, who thought
of it as brutal and cruel and morally

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bankrupt, and so on and so
forth. And I thought it was quite

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an interesting analogy. But it did
take at least what four hundred and fifty

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years or so for the Roman Empire
to fall after the birth of christis a

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bit of a start hot take to
mean texts. I think it's an auspicious

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So, James, I don't know
if you followed this story, but the

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Guardian, presumably in an attempt to
deflect attention from the embarrassment of its own

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involvement in the slave trade. Ran
a story last week supposedly exposing I think

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William the Third for having received or
been the beneficiary of a trust which had

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links with the slave trade. I
think he received a gift, and the

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Royal household's response was, yes,
we're aware of this, and we have

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we are supporting a two year research
project being carried out by Royal Historic Parks

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or something or Royal Historic Houses to
look at the links between the royal palaces

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and the slave trade. But he
didn't rule out at some point the royal

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family paying reparations. You said earlier
that there aren't any slaves to pay reparations

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too. There are only descendants of
slaves. That's kind of true. But

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there are slaves, you know,
in the world at the moment, aren't

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there. I mean, you'd think
it would be Actually, in some ways

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it would It would be kind of
better to give the money to people trying

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to free people who are currently enslaves, such as the weakers in China,

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or you know, the hundreds of
thousand, thousands of people in labor camps

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in North Korea, or the people
you know that are being exploited in Qatar.

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And so forth across the Middle East. But there's never any talk about

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doing anything for you know, people
who are currently enslaved or who've been recently

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in our lifetimes, in their lifetimes
freed from slavery. Know, it's always

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about helping the descendants of the Transatlantic
slave trade, is it? Because why

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why do people who supposedly care so
much and feel such you know, hot

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shame about Britain's involvement in the trans
Atlantic slave trade seemed to care so little

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about people who are currently enslaved in
the world. I mean, it's a

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sort of moral blind spot, isn't
it. I've never quite understood that.

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But my response to, you know, the suggestion that the Royal family or

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that the British state should compensate,
you know, the descendants of slaves because

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of its involvement in the slave trade, is well, haven't hasn't the British

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state you know, already effectively paid
um, you know, m paid for

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its sins because we we you know, we committed blood and treasure in the

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form of the Royal Navy's West Africa
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And I think I checked this.
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eighteen sixty, something like six one
thousand, six hundred slave ships were intercepted

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by the Royal Navy and one hundred
and fifty thousand slaves freed, and the

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cost of maintaining that squadron was about
one point two percent of our annual GDP,

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more in fact, than we currently
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you know, we have committed an
enormous amount, particularly of treasure,

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to ending the slave trade. Isn't
that Isn't that sufficient to kind of,

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you know, absolve us of having
to give any more money by way of

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compensation and sort of you know,
moral whitewashing to you know, to absolve

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us of guilt for our involvement in
in the to the fair terms is not

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being rude. This is another like
conservative talking point. I mean, which

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which which gets wheeled out again and
again? I mean the reason the reason

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that this is this is part of
the punch and judy show of of the

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fake news medium, which is that
so the Guardian, whose allocated role is

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to be the left represents sort of
republicanism and so on, runs this incredibly

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trivial and unimportant story about how,
oh, King William the third may have

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received a gift connected with slavery.
Look the rural family. The reason that

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they get away with what they do. I mean, I think that I

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was stripping of all their power.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I'm certainly

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not going to pay any attention to
this ludicrous coronation thing involving this this appalling

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World Economic Forum stooge that we're supposed
to call the king and supposed to he's

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supposed to rule over us. Well, he's suddenly not going to rule over

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me. I think he's an absolute
scumback um. That their their public image

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is based on this false notion that
and it's a very cultivate, carefully cultivated

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false notion that they are these this
the awkward archaic family struggling to find a

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role for themselves in the modern modern
world. That they mean well, that

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they haven't got that much money.
You know, the queen in going around

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backing in palace, insisting on all
the lights to being turned out, and

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when she when she sits in her
room, sitting on one of those old

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old electric fires and only having one
bar on instead of three, and all

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this all this kind of bullshit that
we're fed about the royal family. If

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all that was wrong with the Royal
family was that King William may have may

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have accepted some money from the slave
trade, then I think, um,

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their their pr machine be very happy. I think their pr machine knows on

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some level that the Royal family are
monstrous. They are there, I mean,

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they're evil basically. So so I
don't know why we're discussing a silly

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Guardian story designed to designed to provoke
a counter reaction from all. Yeah.

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So I think it's outrageous that the
Ryal family is being attacked for slavery when

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they barely touched it and the lovely
people. Now it's it's just bollocks.

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I'm not playing that game. Did
you see the in the widely reproduced in

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the media invitation to the coronation,
Yeah, with the green man, with

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the green man their payment. Yeah, presumably you interpret that as a kind

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of subtle signal that actually Prince Charles
is a devil worshiper. He's always been.

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Yeah, he's always been very he's
always been very uncomfortable with Do you

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remember he declared, well, I
think I was a young pup reporter on

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the Telegraph when he said this.
It was a long time ago he said,

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I don't want to be fee day
defender. I want to I don't

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want to be defender of the faith. I want to be defender of faith.

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Yes, And inevitably this was another
kind of conservative talking point where people

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said, well, this is outrageous. He's supposed to to represent the judge

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of England, like like he's like
like Henry the Eighth's founded for the break

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of Roman, blah blah blah.
This is just I don't think that that

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many of the rules are actually remotely
interested in church. That because they're not

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really Christians think that that's that.
And no order of service has yet been

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published for the coronation, and the
speculation is that the reason for that is

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because there's an internal row about whether
leaders of other faiths should be able to

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um bless Prince Charles and say prayers
during the The kind of the conservative position

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is it's perfectly or right for the
leaders of other faiths to be invited and

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be given good seats, but if
they have a formal role in the coronation

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itself, because Prince Charles wants to
be the defender of faith and not the

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faith, that would be a huge
departure. Well, it would be an

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unprecedented departure from tradition, never happened
of the coronation of a British king before,

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but also might be a breach of
canon law. Well, yeah,

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I think I suspect that. I
don't know, it'd be very surprising if

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if, if, if, in
fact, you know, he invites you

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know, Muslims and Hindus to actually
I don't know, as the crown has

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been put put on his head.
No, I think it'd be very unsurprising

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terms because it's an essential part of
the New World Order, which is an

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essentially Luciferian project, and part of
the nature of that of that project,

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it's all it's all to do with
stuff like the rebuilding of third Temperament stuff,

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but all sorts of stuff like like
that. But what it comes down

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to the building. Oh, I
don't don't. Don't ask me about that

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one. It's it's too complicated.
I mean, I don't know enough about

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it. But I do know that
that this is this is the deal,

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this is this is where we are
heading. That this is of a piece

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with for example, Muslim clerics being
invited into cathedrals to to say that they're

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various Muslim Muslim prayers and stuff.
There was this kind of move towards ecumenicism,

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this idea that that we no longer
have separate face Judaism, Christianity,

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Islam and so on, but we
sort of we're heading towards this one,

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this one world religion. So Prince
Charles, so I think he is sorry

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King Charles, who is who is
much more influence, much much bigger influencer,

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and much more maligned than his in
his knowledge. I mean, he's

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very heavily embedded with the World Economic
Forum, for example. He he's on

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board with it, with his plan, or at least his controllers. I

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don't know how much. He's so
thick that I'm not sure how many original

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thoughts he has. But whether it's
Charles or his controllers that they are,

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they are steering towards this, this
one world religion. So it would it

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would make absolute sense to me that
he would he would invite people from various

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religions to to participate in his in
his coronation, which by the way,

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I don't think. I know you're
going to be watching it, but I

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honestly think that lots of people are
just not going to be interested in this

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crap, what do you reckon?
Yeah, I don't know. I hadn't.

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I hadn't really made up my mind
about whether I was going to watch

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it. I might kind of,
you know, glance at it from accuse

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we are playing no, no,
no no. I think all football matches

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are bestponed for that period. Certainly
not going to be clashing with it.

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But do you think, I mean
it's going to be a down square,

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isn't it? Well, I mean, I don't know. I mean,

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you know, I suppose the the
the the this sort of pomp and ceremony

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is one of the few things you
know, the British is still really good.

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At the Queen's funeral was was quite
impressive. Um so I imagine you

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know that the theater will be you
know, suitably dazzling, but looking at

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the kind of political you know,
dimension to it, I imagine it'll be

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horrifying. One thing, one point
that David Starkey made is that the number

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of people, so when the Queen
was crowned, there were loads of MPs

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and peers kind of squashed into a
box overlooking the ceremony, so she effectively

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had to look up and that was
symbolic look up at her master's in you

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know, in Parliament. But actually
Charles has massively reduced the number of parliament

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Harrian's who will be present. I
think it's just twenty from each house,

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which, according to Starkey is a
grave insult to parliament, that symbolic of

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Charles's disregard for parliamentary democracy in his
attempt to try and subvert the democratic process.

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To be fair terms, you are
off for him to say this,

406
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:23,079
But Charles is absolutely right. I
mean they are worth working scumbacks. They

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compete. I get that. I
thought heys to say. Starkey's absolutely right.

408
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,840
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447
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else is happening? Ah well,
I just wanted to mention very briefly,

448
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because I know that sometimes you get
upset when you introduced a news item and

449
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,320
I say, who cares? Who
cares? Who cares? Doesn't matter written

450
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services. But so I was,
um, I was actually getting um Brian

451
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:58,519
produced to google what it was that
annoyed me. But um, you remember

452
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:06,719
how a few months ago, people
like yourself are not necessarily you yourself,

453
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,840
but the people like you were saying
things like, oh, having arguments about

454
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:17,679
whether they fancied Trump or de Santists, And I'd be going, it really

455
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:23,280
doesn't matter. They are all they're
all chosen for these roles. They're all

456
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:29,719
completely compromised. They're all part of
the system. Democrat, Republican, they're

457
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:35,400
all the same. It's just it's
just part of the illusion that we have

458
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:39,199
we have a democratic choice, but
actually that they don't represent us. They

459
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:47,039
just represent the system. And so
I took a I didn't get involved in

460
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:53,480
these all. Who do you prefer
Trump or Desantist conversations, and de Santist

461
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:55,960
has now gone and shown his colors, doesn't he It's going to have been

462
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,719
really really annoying by by doing something
that he wasn't supposed to do but some

463
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:07,719
some sort of greeny thing isn't.
Yeah, he did an annoying thing,

464
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,679
which is which is put in beyond
the pale, and just confirmed um,

465
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,239
the justice of my decision not to
get involved in these games anymore. And

466
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,400
there was another one as well.
Another example was do you remember a few

467
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:28,880
weeks ago you hailed the success of
the Dutch Farmers Party which had got this

468
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:36,360
one, this unexpected majority. They're
called the bbb UM. Turns out they

469
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:45,400
were created by the Advertising Um,
by Monsanto's advertising agency, and they're actually

470
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,360
just another sort of controlled opposition outfit. People are beginning beginning to realize they're

471
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,480
not the real voice of the Dutch
Farmers Um and and they've demonstrated this.

472
00:40:55,559 --> 00:41:01,599
But by there were there were calls
for a debate on on whether on whether

473
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,559
the Netherlands is ridiculous war on nitrogen
fertilizer was going to be scrutinized, and

474
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:13,199
whether whether it maybe that this was
going to be um stopped because it's because

475
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:17,239
it's driving lots of farms out of
business. Um. And this this this

476
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,960
BBB party that is supposedly the voice
of the of the Dutch farmers actually sabotaged

477
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:27,360
this, this this motion. So
I don't know. I think that the

478
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,440
news, what you think of as
the thing wants you to discuss, is

479
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:38,599
just is just what the system,
what what the corrupt, controlling narrative wants

480
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,079
wants you to discuss. But it's
got no relevance to what's going on underneath

481
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:49,559
the bondage. Right. Well,
I was gonncient. Remember when we discussed

482
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:57,239
the Trump indictment last week. I
think I said I disputed that it was

483
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:04,760
unprecedented and a new low in democratic
warfare law fair against the Republican Party.

484
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,519
But actually I got that wrong.
It is unprecedented. No sitting president or

485
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:16,159
ex president has ever actually been indicted
before charged with a criminal offense. Um

486
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:22,400
And Um, I think I like
a graceful, a graceful admission, So

487
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:28,400
I admit error. And I think
I think it was it has been a

488
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:34,480
sort of, you know, a
slightly puzzling three ring circus in that what

489
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:40,840
is it exactly that you know Alvin
Bragg, the ambitious Manhattan DA hopes to

490
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:51,079
achieve by this because it looks almost
certain that the charges against Trump will be

491
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:57,800
summarily dismissed by another court in quite
short order. Um, and so what

492
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,199
is it that Alvin Bragg is hoping
to achieve? What is it that the

493
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:04,239
Democratic Party is hoping to achieve?
And I think the only because, of

494
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,920
course it's enhanced his standing, his
numbers, His poll numbers have gone up,

495
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,000
you know, since the indictment.
And I think that must have been

496
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:16,360
the intention. I'm now going to
sound a bit like you, James.

497
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,000
It sounds a bit conspiratorial, but
surely they must unknown that if they if

498
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:28,559
Trump was charged with this offense,
it would enhance his standing and consolidate his

499
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:34,400
position as the front runner in the
race to become the Republican presidential nominee.

500
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,280
And that must have been why they
did it, because I imagine that Biden

501
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,559
and you know, other and the
people around him in the Democratic Party think

502
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:51,000
that Trump would be a less formidable
opponent than Rhonda Santis as a Dosanta site,

503
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,679
if that's the right phrase. I
feel that this is a diabolical conspiracy

504
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:58,800
against my candidate. I shouldn't have
encouraged you. Should I I shouldn't have

505
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,400
encouraged you by by bringing up some
American news and you love all that stuff,

506
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,239
and it's just it's all made up. It's like the tooth fairy.

507
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,119
It's just designed to appeal to children
like you, and one day yours the

508
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:16,239
tooth fairy does not exist. Did
you see the secret people in the background

509
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,400
to really get the tooth from under
your pillow and put money in or not?

510
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,320
Didn't you even get that? Well, now I was on the subject

511
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:30,000
of the tooth fairy, James,
there was some celebrities said that whenever his

512
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:36,400
child lost the tooth and left it
under his or her pillow, they would

513
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,280
give them ten pounds. I mean, it just it's extraordinary, isn't it

514
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,920
that some people give as much as
ten pounds per tooth? I mean,

515
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:51,280
if I was an enterprising five year
old, I would literally get a pair

516
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,559
of platters and pull out my own
teeth for ten pounds a tooth. How

517
00:44:54,639 --> 00:45:00,800
much you give your children? You're
talking about inflation, that's what it is.

518
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:10,119
I remember getting norm It's not unreasonable. It's funny that I in in

519
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:16,199
church, for example, um that
when when you're when you're what when the

520
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:23,800
collection comes round? I think that
it's not unreasonable to give twenty quid now,

521
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:30,119
not which which seems a huge huge
amount. I mean that one doesn't

522
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:34,519
want to sort of ideally you put
it in one of those little little um

523
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,920
envelopes that sad people can't see because
it looks a shocking amount of money.

524
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:45,679
But actually twenty quid is what is
the equivalent of a fiber um ten years

525
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:50,320
ago. It's it's like we're saying
us, that does a lot of money,

526
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,239
but it's not true. I can
see that, you know, allowing

527
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,800
for inflation, of course, giving
your child six months I mean you know,

528
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,960
um six months dates back to predesimalization, which was what nineteen seventy So

529
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:07,360
yeah, but even if you index
linked sixpence, say what it was worth

530
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,519
in today's money in nineteen sixty seven, I can't imagine it would have gone

531
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:14,599
up to ten pounds, it still
seems an extrue Well forget you've got you've

532
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:19,880
got an enviably large number of kids, that's true. I have got four

533
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:24,039
children are own heritage of the Lord. Yeah. Um, as it says

534
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:27,960
in some one to seven, I've
been I've been doing my Christian duty.

535
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:31,800
James, Yeah, yeah, you
have absolutely. Um. Yeah, as

536
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,960
as arrows in the hands of a
mighty man, so are children of the

537
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,360
youth. Um happy is the man
that has a quiver full of them?

538
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:47,119
Yes, that's you? Yes,
so um yeah, um, I would.

539
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:51,679
I don't mean I don't want you
to give money at all for for

540
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:54,920
for losing your teeth really to be
honest, but but yeah, if I

541
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,760
were a rich person, I would
say that actually, and I were in

542
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,320
the business of giving my children money
for their teeth. I'm not so shocked

543
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,039
that the tenor was now going away. It's just how things are. So.

544
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:14,280
Um, did you see that it
looks as though the government has decided

545
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,960
to no longer back the Worker Protection
Bill. I'm sure you'll think this is

546
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:29,559
just another distraction government fiction. It's
it's um. It was quite scary.

547
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:37,519
So it was a private member's bill
that tabled by a Lib Dem MP and

548
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:43,119
a Lib Dem peerum. And what
it would do it was going to extend

549
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:50,880
employer liability to third party harassment.
So what that means is at present,

550
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:58,119
under the Equality Act twenty ten,
employers are liable for employee on employee harassment

551
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:01,480
and that includes, as I'm sure
you know, overheard conversation. So if

552
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,800
one of you, if you're an
employer, and one of your employees overhears

553
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,599
a conversation between two other employees in
which one says to the other something the

554
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:20,639
earwigger finds upsetting or offensive in virtue
of one of their protected characteristics, the

555
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,599
earwigger can then sue their employer for
not doing more to protect them from this

556
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,559
kind of harassment. Now, if
you extend that the third parties, what

557
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:37,639
that would have meant is that if
if if a barmaid, for instance,

558
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:44,239
overheard a conversation between two customers in
her pump, overheard them telling a saucy

559
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,800
joke which she found upsetting or offensive
in virtue of her, her sex,

560
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,119
the fact that she's a woman,
she could sue the publican for not doing

561
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:57,679
more to protect her. So,
in order to kind of reduce their liability,

562
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,079
had this bill become law, publicans
would have had to have employed bouncer

563
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:07,440
police, essentially police pubs to make
sure that nobody engaged in banter likely to

564
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:10,199
upset any of their members of staff. It would have meant hotels, you

565
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:16,360
know, banning women wearing woman equals
adult human female on their teas. I

566
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,159
get that, but have they stopped
it now? But yeah, it's it's

567
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,000
currently in the Lords, but it
looks as though it's going to run out

568
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,960
of time in the Lords because various
Conservative peers have tabled amendments to it,

569
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,559
and the government initially was going to
fight on behalf of the bill in the

570
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:35,960
Lords. But it's now said,
at least it said in the Telegraph on

571
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,800
Sunday that it wasn't going to fight
it any more any longer. It had

572
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,519
listened to the bills critics clearly it
needed a bit more thought and they're going

573
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:45,519
to let this one time out,
which is huge free speech victory. James.

574
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,679
This is it's all theater TEBs that
this this would all have been been

575
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,719
planned. Of course, they want
you to believe that this was only saved

576
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,480
by a few sharp eyed peers or
whatever who spotted that this was wasn't just

577
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:02,440
shoved by beers. We've been alerting
those pills to the shortcomings of the bill.

578
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,519
I mean, the Free Speech Union
has been working very hard behind the

579
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:10,000
scenes to try and kill this bill. I don't want to disk the mighty

580
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:14,119
power of your organization terms I'm sure
I'm sure, you've you've you've made a

581
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:19,719
difference. What I'm saying is that
this is how it works, that they

582
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:23,360
get away with with with what they
can. It's it's it's like Lenin,

583
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:30,199
push for the banners and if you
feel must carry on pushing. But if

584
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:35,519
you feel resistance then then then stop
that that's obviously I'm not quoting the actual

585
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,559
quote that he said, but that
that was the principle that this is what

586
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:44,599
this is what they do. So
you see, you are now crediting the

587
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:49,960
government essentially with a degree of common
sense, or rather, you are crediting

588
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,239
the system with the power to stop
lunacy happening because of these checks and balances

589
00:50:55,559 --> 00:51:01,679
that you know, organizations like the
Free Speech Union, peers sharp eyed MPs

590
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:08,360
who who spot the potential consequences of
this outrageous bill that's going through Parliament,

591
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:13,960
that was sponsored by some Maverick Craze
Lib Dem mp And it would have been

592
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:16,360
it would have been madness. And
here's what would have happened. But it

593
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:22,239
was never ever going to happen because
it was always going to be stymied at

594
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:27,800
the last minute. It wasn't going
to go through. Okay, maybe maybe

595
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,079
in a parallel universe. It did
go through, but I would say in

596
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:34,639
this one it wasn't going to go
through. And yet you are now crediting

597
00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:37,440
with the system with a sort of
degree of common sense. In your eyes,

598
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:43,400
the system is working. I'm saying, the system is so broken beyond

599
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,960
measure. These are such fascist tosspot, authoritarian tosspots. They have not been

600
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:53,000
representing ordinary people that the electorate for
a very very long time. They are

601
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:57,840
not fit for purpose. They are
corrupt, They are a bunch of crooks.

602
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,599
They are on board with supernational interests
which control them, the organizations like

603
00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:10,559
the Triatural Commission which controls k STAMA, among others, um, the the

604
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:16,760
World Economic Forum and so on.
And these these stories about how all this

605
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,039
bit of legislation was cut short.
Shouldn't we be grateful all the systems working.

606
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,119
It's just part of the stile.
I'm not by it at all.

607
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:28,760
I'm not interested. Well, James, I think I know more about this

608
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,960
issue than you, and I can
tell you this bill would have passed had

609
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:38,320
it not been for the efforts of
its opponents and the Free Speech Union.

610
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:45,159
And the reason I suspect it would
have passed is partly because it's sailed through

611
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:50,480
the House of Commons on its first
reading, and it was read on a

612
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:54,440
Friday evening, so there was there
was there was almost no discussion about the

613
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,840
bill, and that seemed to be
it seemed to be designed that way.

614
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:05,320
And the bill I think originated not
with these two Lib Dem well MP one

615
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,679
Lib Dempier. I think they were
asked to propose this as a private member's

616
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:15,960
bill by the Government Equalities Office,
which is effectively an activist department within Whitehall.

617
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:22,159
And there was a parallel there's a
parallel effort within the government to to

618
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:30,519
get various countries to sign up to
an international treaty effectively extending liability to third

619
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:37,440
parties. So exactly what was contained
in this bill is something that the government

620
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:44,039
has been promoting through another arm internationally. It thinks that for reasons of you

621
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:49,159
know, promoting equality, employers and
other countries should also be liable for the

622
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:52,719
harassment of their employees by members of
the public, by customers they come into

623
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,760
contact with. So it seems like
kind of in so far as there is

624
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,119
a kind of seems like there is
a sort of coordinated effort by the deep

625
00:53:59,159 --> 00:54:04,760
State to all out this particular law, and they like it because, you

626
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,679
know, they think it will promote
equality, they think it will protect vulnerable

627
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,679
employees from harassment. I mean,
one of the ways in which it's it's

628
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,840
sold to people, and I think
eleven countries have now signed up to this

629
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:22,599
international treaty is that it will impose
a duty on employers to protect their employees

630
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,800
from sexual harassment. That's the kind
of that's the kind of big selling point

631
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:31,119
of extending liability to third party harassment. But of course, the Workers Worker

632
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:37,679
Protection Bill and this international Treaty goes
way beyond extending liability to employers for sexual

633
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,320
harassment of their employees by third parties
and defines harassment in this much broader way

634
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,840
and includes overheard conversations, amongst other
things. But it seems to me that

635
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:51,400
it was part of a coordinated effort
by Whitehall, by the deep state,

636
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:58,079
to you know, impose its agenda
and try as far as possible to bypass

637
00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:01,599
the democratic process. But they been
caught red handed by as you as you

638
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:07,159
put it, sarcastically sharp eyed parliamentarians. And it is an example, if

639
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,000
you like, of the system working. The system may be partially broken,

640
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:16,360
and there may be too many opportunities
now for activist civil servants to bypass democratic

641
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,000
accountability, partly because we've had you
know, three prime ministers in very quick

642
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,960
succession. Um, it's created a
kind of vacuum at the center which has

643
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,639
been filled by you know, am
ambitious officials with their own woke agenda.

644
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:34,880
But it can be stopped, James, And that this is an example of

645
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,360
how it can be stopped, and
I think an inspiration hopefully to other people

646
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,400
that you know, don't give up
this. It may be that there are

647
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:47,199
lots of people working to implement this
you know, socialist agenda internationally, but

648
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,639
in a way but but but it
can be stopped, James. I mean,

649
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:58,239
I like that rising defense of of
of the free speeching and the heroic

650
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,159
work of a few sharp eyed MPIs. But in a way, what you're

651
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:08,159
saying it means you're you're actually veering
towards Team James, which is that My

652
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:19,239
argument is that the government, um
is it is so enthralled to these supernational

653
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,440
organizations which are really steering global policy
and steering us towards a new world order.

654
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:29,280
UM, you seem to be endorsing
that because when you talk about the

655
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,360
deep state, but actually I think
you weren't just talking about Whitehall, you

656
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:37,440
were you were conflating that them with
the people in the government who seemed to

657
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,199
be absolutely all up for for passing
this this policy, and it was only

658
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:45,119
with they re not going to get
away with it that No, I think

659
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:46,360
I think the government. I think, in truth, I think the government

660
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,719
just didn't have their eye on the
ball with this one. He said,

661
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,320
oh, you're letting them off the
hook again. You think, I think,

662
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,199
I don't think. I think I
think, and I think that once

663
00:56:55,639 --> 00:57:00,519
the shortcomings of the bill had been
flagged up, then I think Rishi sunac

664
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:06,119
affective. You think that Rishi Saka
is on your side? I think I

665
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,519
think. I think he represents your
interests. He does seem to have that

666
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:15,039
as a well not I don't think. I don't think that now. I

667
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:17,519
don't think he's a creature of the
w EF. I don't think he's trying

668
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:22,400
to impose, you know, he's
working to create a world government, nothing

669
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,639
like that. I think he's I
think he's you know, I think he

670
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:30,760
he he he has kind of managerialist, technocratic tendencies. But I also think

671
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:36,119
that you know, um, he
isn't nearly as bad as I feared he

672
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:38,760
would be U and he seems to
be if he can, if he can

673
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,599
actually do something about the small boats
um he seems to have set up.

674
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,880
He seems he seems to want to
do something about, you know, the

675
00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:53,119
child grooming gangs. His anti woke
agenda has extended to wanting to reform the

676
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:58,679
Equality Act to make sure sex refers
to biological sex and not the sex that

677
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,039
trends people identify bias and so on
and so forth. I mean, he's

678
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:08,119
and I think one of the reasons
he told his ministers to effectively to withdraw

679
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:12,320
their support from the Work of Protection, but because it was so at odds

680
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,440
with his anti woke agenda, which
I think he does seem to be.

681
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,039
I mean, he does want to
pursue it, maybe for mercenary reasons,

682
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:20,519
because he thinks it's a way of
winning back votes in the red Wall seats

683
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:23,239
and holding on to a few of
them. But nonetheless, I think I

684
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:28,159
think he's been. He's been,
He's been better than that I thought he

685
00:58:28,199 --> 00:58:34,199
would be. And I do think
that this bill flew under the radar and

686
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,679
needed to need needed to be kind
of people, needed to draw attention to

687
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:42,159
it and flag up the risks associated
with it, make the government aware of

688
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:44,800
it, and then the government as
a consequence, so it's kind of back

689
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,480
backed off. I think they were
rather you know, taken for a ride

690
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:51,920
by activists civil servants on this particular
But I think, I think that can

691
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,639
happen often. But I didn't think
these activists civil servants, you know,

692
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:59,400
are in league with the WEF for
anything like that. I think they just

693
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:00,719
they just they're just, you know, they all think the same way.

694
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:07,440
They're just they're just they they've all
kind of drunk the woke cooler and they

695
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:09,960
believe they I mean, I think
that what's happened, James, is that

696
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:16,519
as recently as twenty five years ago, officials, people who worked for the

697
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:22,800
royal family, custodians of museums and
galleries and so forth, were motivated by

698
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:25,360
a sense of public service, by
a sense of duty to the public,

699
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,920
to the nation, Motivated ultimately,
you know, out of patriotism to do

700
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,440
the jobs they did. That's what
gave them a sense of higher purpose and

701
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,280
what gave their lives meaning and what
they look look back on and reflected on

702
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,840
with pride towards the end of their
lives. I think that's gone and it's

703
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,639
been replaced by you know, the
woke cup. They now think of their

704
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,559
overriding purpose, the thing that gives
their life a sense of purpose, meaning

705
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:57,360
is rectifying injustices, the injustices inflicted
on the world by the British Empire and

706
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:00,880
you know, the East India Company
and the rest of it. And it's

707
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:07,599
that now which motivates officials in all
these institutions in the kind of you know,

708
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:10,159
state officials, including quite senior state
officials. And I think that,

709
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,760
you know, this bill was part
of that overall motivation, trying to protect

710
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:21,760
the weak and the vulnerable from exploitation
and harassment. It's a kind of religious

711
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,840
It's a religious crusade, a greater
wokening, and doesn't require you know,

712
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:30,119
there is no Holy See coordinating it. It's kind of the Holy See is

713
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:32,760
social media, if anything, So
we have another ad yes, and then

714
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:38,360
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So, James, what have you
seen on TV? In the past.

732
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,960
Well, I watched the I watched
the last part of War Sailor, which

733
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:10,920
I definitely one of the best things
you're going to see on TV this year,

734
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,480
I would say, really yeah,
really really moving, brilliant acting.

735
01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:22,039
Mostly it was originally released as a
moving most expensive Norwegian film ever made that

736
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:27,519
got beaten by or quite on the
Western Front in the in the international oscars

737
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,519
um. So it's been split up
into three parts on Netflix. It's about

738
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:36,840
the Norwegian merchant navy in the war. It's very moving. Um, it

739
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:42,920
is good. And last night we
were trawling around for something that we could

740
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:50,360
watch as a family and found something
that I've been hitherto reluctant to watch,

741
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,840
which was a like a two hour
film, maybe two and a half,

742
01:02:54,719 --> 01:03:01,960
a new David Bowie thing. Yeah, I've seen the trailer Wow moon Age

743
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,360
in moon Age Daydream. I was
reluctant to watch it because I just felt

744
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:12,360
I'd seen everything there was to know, everything there was to see about David

745
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:17,679
Bowe. I was a massive fan. Probably of all the kind of the

746
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:22,480
enduring pop stars, David David Bowe
would be my one. Although I'm not

747
01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:28,119
convinced that he's dead. I'm actually
now I think maybe he faked his death

748
01:03:28,159 --> 01:03:31,199
and he was the guy who appeared
on that TV shows as a kind of

749
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:35,320
David Bowie fan club expert. Do
you think do you think that Elvis is

750
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,960
still alive as well? I think
Elvis was born in the same year that

751
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,920
my dad was, so he would
be now. He was born in nineteen

752
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:50,679
thirty five, so he'd be quite
old. I think it's quite possibly he

753
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:53,840
may affecd his death, although looking
at him in his in his latter years,

754
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,960
he didn't look implausible that he might
have died on the level not impulsible.

755
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,960
He might have died on them of
this being fat. I mean,

756
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,440
that's that's how a lot of a
lot of fat people go, isn't it.

757
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:09,079
They sort of try and do a
pooh and the strain just gives them

758
01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:15,320
a died on the lavatory. Yeah, But just to just to be clear,

759
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,000
Paul McCartney dead, David Bowie,
Well, the original, the original

760
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:23,400
Paul McCartney is definitely dead. Yeah. The guy he plays it now is

761
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,599
called fall you fake Paul. Paul
McCartney died in a car crash in ninety

762
01:04:28,599 --> 01:04:32,000
sixty six. I mean the guy
is yeah, he's um. I don't

763
01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:38,159
know. It must be quite weird
spending your life playing this guy, um

764
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:44,039
pretend to be somebody that that you. Yeah, it must be weird anyway.

765
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,599
Um, the Bowie thing is really
really good. I think it was.

766
01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:53,280
It's the first, the first production
which has been authorized by the Bowie

767
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:59,719
estate, and it's got all this
archive footage I've never seen before, and

768
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:08,440
there's no there's no narrative voice.
There's I think with previous Bowie Bowie documentaries

769
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:13,239
and stuff, you've always found that
the medium has got in the way with

770
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,159
the material. But this is just
it's kind of perfect. It is the

771
01:05:17,239 --> 01:05:21,920
perfect It's a Bowie fans fantasy come
true. It's really good, and I

772
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:30,239
like the way it mixes you.
You get old songs bumping rubbing up with

773
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:36,360
rubbing shoulders with his black Star material
or or Hello Space Boy, or of

774
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,280
stuff like that, and that you
might get that rubbing shoulders with with with

775
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,199
Major to ground Control, to space
of the Tea and even his early stuff

776
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:49,440
in his in his at Anthony Newly
phase. It's it's great, it's really

777
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,760
good. I looked at in the
trailer there was a kind of it seemed

778
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,440
to stress his kind of spiritual side
and had him kind of spouting sort of

779
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:02,320
mumbo jumber about the mystery of the
universe, and they're being no beginning and

780
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,679
no end, and you think,
oh, Christ, I could do without

781
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:11,760
a kind of all this religioe's gobbleded
gook from you know, an't. Yes,

782
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:16,639
Well, I think I've wondered about
where where Bowie pitted into the I

783
01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:20,800
don't think he was. I don't
think he was a Christian. I think

784
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:27,400
that I think Black Star is pretty
much the work of a the Lisipian I

785
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,119
would say, probably be a talented
Lusian in your view, Well, well,

786
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:33,280
yeah, I think I think.
I think he was great, although

787
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:41,679
I think I think I think anyone
who gets to that level in pop stardom

788
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,000
has probably sold his or her soul
to the devil. I mean some of

789
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:47,119
the some of them were much more
overt about it, the Donna for example,

790
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:51,239
or Lady Gaga. I mean,
they are obviously in the service to

791
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,360
the dark lord. Um, I
don't know. I don't know about Yeah.

792
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,880
Well, Bowie went through it through
a terrible phase in his cocaine face

793
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:03,559
is in what he was living in
la Um. He became convinced that the

794
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:09,920
devil was living in his swimming pool, and that there was this nasty kind

795
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,000
of I think, how is swimming
pool exorcise or something. There was a

796
01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:19,280
sort of a stain left by the
departing evil. Right, Okay, so

797
01:07:19,639 --> 01:07:29,840
if if we're on movies, I
saw a film on Apple TV called Sharper,

798
01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:32,440
which I'd been meaning to see for
a bit, which which which is

799
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,559
a sort of it's it's a bit
like it's a sort of um, it's

800
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:41,440
one of those kind of grifter in
that in that grifter genre, these kind

801
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,760
of you know, two grifters ripping
off a billionaire's son and another grifter ripping

802
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,519
off a billionaire, and they kind
of fall out and gar up against each

803
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:54,639
other, and it's quite entertaining.
It's a little bit long and slightly episodic.

804
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,559
That it's got a slightly unusual structure
in that it tells the stories of

805
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:04,480
the different grifters one after the other
and kind of weaves the kind of chronological

806
01:08:04,519 --> 01:08:09,280
story in and out, so it
keeps flashing back, which is slightly irritating

807
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:14,960
but nonetheless reasonably good. I'd give
it three and a half stars out of

808
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,720
five. But I also I saw
the I got to the end of White

809
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:23,279
Lotus two second season of White Loaders, which I which I actually thought was

810
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:26,600
really good at first. I was. I watched episode one and wasn't that

811
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,520
bowled over by it? And so
there was yeah, the one set in

812
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,640
Sicily. Yeah, but I've been
tempted. So you really good, really

813
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,439
good, I think at least as
good as season one. Actually, by

814
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,199
the time I got to the end
of it, I thought it was really

815
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:45,479
good. Okay, really it was
a kind of yeah, I think one

816
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:48,359
that that state it felt to me, you know, state of the art,

817
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:54,479
high quality TV. This this is
this really an example of really good

818
01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:00,199
contemporary TV. So yeah, White
Loaders two strongly recommended. I also or

819
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:04,960
episodes one and two of Beef,
this new Netflix series that everybody's talking about,

820
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:15,079
which is it's about as It's set
in in in Los Angeles, and

821
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:20,720
it starts with the kind of you
know, the the the the triggering incident

822
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:30,760
is a road rage episode in which
a Korean contractor gets into a kind of

823
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:36,439
spat with a much more successful I
think also Korean but possibly Japanese woman,

824
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:41,399
like a yuppie, very successful own's
own business, but it is also quite

825
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,039
unhappy, unsatisfied, with their life
and they get into this kind of you

826
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:50,119
know, um little kind of spat
on the road, and it escalates,

827
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:56,359
and it escalates through the series.
At least it escalated between episode one and

828
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:59,600
episode two. But it's sort of, you know, it's not really about

829
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:04,159
you know, it's it's it's really
about how unsatisfied they are, the two

830
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:08,720
central characters, how unhappy they are
with their lives, and how they they're

831
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,960
kind of pretending to be kind of
swept up by the American dream and they

832
01:10:13,079 --> 01:10:16,520
pay lip service to, you know, their dreams of success and the kind

833
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,600
of ethic of self improvements and self
discipline and the rest of it, but

834
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,520
actually, you know, there's a
kind of void there in their lives.

835
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,960
They're both really deeply unhappy and not
remotely satisfied by kind of capitalism. It

836
01:10:31,039 --> 01:10:33,640
is good, Yeah, it's really
well done. It's well written, and

837
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:41,199
definitely I'm definitely going to continue with
it. Right, But do you feel

838
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:46,640
you're being worked over in the same
way that you do when you watch Yellowstone?

839
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,279
You feel like you're being put through
the ringer. I don't like being

840
01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:55,479
put through the now. I don't
think you know, it's it's not kind

841
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,359
of it's not. I mean,
I like being put through the ringer.

842
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,880
I like the kind of you know, the visceral um uh, you know,

843
01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:05,239
suspense um. I like being on
the edge of my seat and finding

844
01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:09,640
it unbearable and not being able to
temis away. I love all that.

845
01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:13,079
That to me is you know,
that's why that's high drama. That's drama,

846
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:15,319
and it's best. No, it
isn't. It isn't like that,

847
01:11:15,399 --> 01:11:16,960
at least not yet. No,
So it's it's probably a little bit different

848
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,399
to you know, Breaking Bad,
The Sopranos and Yellowstone in that respect.

849
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:25,279
Okay, so no, I think
you'll like it, James Beef, definitely

850
01:11:25,319 --> 01:11:29,279
worth watching. How you could review
it for the Spectator? Maybe good?

851
01:11:29,279 --> 01:11:33,319
Okay, well we probably have.
Yeah, we can talk about books next

852
01:11:33,319 --> 01:11:36,680
week. Yeah, exactly. Okay, it's good. Okay, all right,

853
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,479
James's good to talk. Have a
good rest of Easter undone Yeah,

854
01:11:42,119 --> 01:12:05,319
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