WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:11.759 This is pod Populi Podcast for the People, The Great Love Debate. It's 2 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:18.160 the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. It's a Great Love Debate. 3 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:23.359 Hi again everyone, It's Brian Howie. Welcome to The Great Love Debate, 4 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:27.760 the world's number one dating and relationship podcasts since two thousand and fifteen. 5 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:33.039 I am here in the very fine studios of pod Populi Podcast for the People. 6 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:36.079 I'm not even one of the main studios here. I'm kind of at 7 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:39.880 my desk with some portable equipment. This equipment I used to drag around the 8 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.079 world doing a lot of these podcasts, and I got nostalgic, so I'm 9 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:45.840 like, you know what, I'm gonna record on this little portable thing, 10 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:50.759 and I bet it's just fine. Anyway, a couple of things, so 11 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:56.560 amazing feedback from the last episode, and it wasn't all good feedback, and 12 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:00.719 it wasn't all bad, which is I think that's always good. But this 13 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.680 is the one I did with Katherine Bregman, the fertility coach, and the 14 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:11.120 emails that we got they ranged from finally an honest conversation about this subject to 15 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:15.719 You're right, you definitely aren't the one to be having these conversations, so 16 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.560 I appreciate that. I always like the feedback, but anyway, to each 17 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:23.959 their own. We're just trying to help here. The second thing because a 18 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:30.560 bunch of you forwarded this to me, Apparently there is a hit show on 19 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:38.959 Netflix called Jewish Matchmaking, and I forget the publication is that it was printed, 20 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.719 but somebody wrote an article or a blog or something about that show, 21 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:49.120 and the article was entitled seven steps for Netflix to make a better Jewish Matchmaking 22 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:53.079 Show. Now, I don't know if this show is good or bad. 23 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:56.439 I don't watch it, and you know that we are not big fans of 24 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:01.200 matchmaking around here, but the show, I guess it digs in all of 25 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:06.319 that. And one of our biggest fans of this podcast, he was actually 26 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:09.719 one of the contestants participants, contestants as a contest I don't know, is 27 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.280 that what you call it. I know he was on the show, and 28 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:15.360 I don't know what happened with him, so I should probably find out. 29 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:19.800 But anyway, I didn't watch it, but many of you did, and 30 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:23.159 many of you forwarded along this article and said, hey, did you see 31 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:28.039 this, And the name of the article was seven steps for Netflix to make 32 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:35.599 a better Jewish matchmaking show, and number one on the list of steps was 33 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:42.439 higher Patty Stanger and Brian Howee. And most of you, I guess know 34 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.199 who I am because you're listening. But for those of you who don't know 35 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:53.360 who Patti Stanger is or was is she was is, I don't know if 36 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:57.400 it's still on. I don't know it's on in reruns. She's the host 37 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.840 of The Millionaire Matchmaker on Bravo for years and years. And this article went 38 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:07.199 on to say Stanger and Howie maybe the two best examples of people who can 39 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:13.639 call daters out on their nonsense, and that might be true. And the 40 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:19.159 article also said they are both masters of vocal inflection, and I'm like, 41 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:25.039 are we Maybe we are. But the article also said how he's not Jewish, 42 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:29.840 but he has come across many Jewish daters and he is aware of pertinent 43 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.319 issues. And when I read that, I thought, how do they know 44 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:38.240 I'm not Jewish? My paternal grandmother was Jewish, which makes me a little 45 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.719 bit Jewish, which to me is like being a little bit pregnant. You 46 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:49.639 either are or you aren't. Holy Cross College education aside, and it said 47 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:57.159 he's aware of pertinent issues oh am. I I have been privy to some 48 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:01.400 of that and those over my long and somewhat checker dating career. But mostly 49 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.080 I want to say this. First of all, I'm flattered by the article. 50 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:09.560 Say what you want about Patty. She's in, you know, fairly 51 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:14.120 well known, esteemed company. So I'm glad the article went viral, and 52 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:15.639 it's good to get some level of notice and respect for all this. But 53 00:04:15.720 --> 00:04:18.639 mostly I just want to say this for those of you like, what do 54 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:24.240 you think of this? I have been there and done that with Patti Stanger, 55 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:29.639 me and her live. I mean, we've done the podcast together, 56 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:35.279 but we had a live at the Laguna Playhouse in Laguna Beach, California, 57 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:40.480 and there's some videos of that probably on YouTube and on our Facebook page, 58 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.160 I think. But if I were to call it a train wreck, that 59 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:48.240 would be an insult to train wrecks. It might have been the worst professional 60 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:53.519 experience of my career, at least on the host side of things. So 61 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:58.399 I'll just leave it at that. And while I like your creative suggestion to 62 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:03.399 pass along to Netflix, let me just say nope, not now, not 63 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:12.040 ever, not again. Something a little bit more positive, but also very 64 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:14.600 sad. The third thing I wanted to touch on before I get in what 65 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.879 I want to touch on. A guy named David Wygant passed away a few 66 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.839 days before I record this, and some of you might know who he is. 67 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:28.600 He was a fairly fairly renowned I guess dating coach is the way we 68 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:30.199 you know, we put it. I hate that word, but that's essentially 69 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.199 what he was. And he dealt mostly with men. And he has not 70 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:38.759 had not been on this podcast in a few years, but if you go 71 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:42.959 back a few years, I think he made more appearances on this show and 72 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:47.639 on our stage combined than any other male guest. And I just wanted to 73 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:51.399 give him a shout out because he was ballsy, and he was fearless in 74 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:56.079 his thoughts, and he was on wavering in his beliefs, and he touched 75 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:00.759 on many of the same things that I try to touch on. But I 76 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:04.240 think he said the more eloquently and more passionately than than I have. And 77 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:10.199 he basically really wanted men to step up, and I thought he was right. 78 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.160 And he was a little bit sort of to the to the right of 79 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.720 me in terms of tone on some of this stuff. So he was a 80 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:24.720 hair more controversial. Um, but he was a unique voice and uh and 81 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:28.079 I really respected his voice, and that's why we went back to him time 82 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.600 and again we had something difficult to talk about, we had him on the 83 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:33.519 podcast. UH. And he was also the picture of fitness, and he 84 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:39.120 ate right, and he worked out and he was obsessed with it and staying 85 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:43.240 young and and he got after all of it in life. And then one 86 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.480 day, you know, you get a headache, and five days later you're 87 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.319 diagnosed with brain concer and three days after that you're dead, which absolutely sucks 88 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:56.800 and you just never know. So we raise a healthy glass to David. 89 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.399 He was a unique character and a strong voice, and he will be missed. 90 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.120 And I know a couple of you had asked if I had heard about 91 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:09.720 that, and I had. So the fourth thing not to segue into a 92 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.720 little bit different topic, but I think he would appreciate that I am recording 93 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.439 this not just at Pod Populi podcast for the people. I am at the 94 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:21.199 one once again in Scottsdale, Arizona, which I have mentioned before is pretty 95 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:28.879 much ground zero for bachelor and bachelorette parties. Vegas sometimes can be too much 96 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:33.839 and a you know, ranch weekend is sometimes too little Scottsdale. You can 97 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:38.000 get your golf on and you can get your freak on, and that happens 98 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:41.120 pretty much all year round, but especially right now as I record this, 99 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:45.439 it is late spring, and I think people are planning their summer wedding, 100 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.519 so this is prime time. Say, you know, six to eight weeks 101 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:54.319 out to have those bachelor and bachelorette parties. And I have some thoughts, 102 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:58.120 because I usually have some thoughts, but I also want your thoughts and anecdotes 103 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:01.519 and tall tales and troubled nights and disasters. We want to hear them. 104 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:07.439 So send them to us, all your bachelor and bachelotte parties or weekends or 105 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.160 whatever it was you did. I don't care what happened in the marriage. 106 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:13.439 I want to know what happened that night or that weekend, whether you were 107 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:18.560 the best man or a simply a participant, or you were the bride or 108 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.160 the groom to be at that point. Give us all the gory details. 109 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:26.319 Send them to us Great Lovedebate at gmail dot com, and we will clean 110 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:33.320 up the mess with a very special episode sharing some of your experiences and our 111 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:41.039 opinions on all the shenanigans and Shenanigans is such a great word. It's a 112 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:46.320 good boat name. I think it's a good bar name. I think it's 113 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:52.559 a good horse race name. So anyway, Shennanigans. But onward, what 114 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:58.039 I want to get into today is something that you know, we have touched 115 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:03.000 on a little a lot before in a fair amount of detail, but it 116 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.200 seems to be coming up more and more, or maybe I notice it more 117 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.080 and more, and I feel so strongly about it that I wanted to vote 118 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.919 some more time to it. So we have done over. I don't know 119 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:18.639 four hundred episodes of this podcast, and sometimes we are revisiting a topic or 120 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.559 two, and I don't think that's laziness, and it's not because we're running 121 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.639 reruns or diving into the greatest hits. I just think it bears shining a 122 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:31.720 brighter light or a different dimension on it. And I always say, our 123 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:37.000 job is to give advice around here is not to give advice around here. 124 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:46.759 It's simply to express opinion. And when I get interviewed, the one question 125 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.799 I always get and get more than any other, is not my opinion, 126 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:56.399 It is what piece of advice would I give people when it comes to love 127 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.879 and dating? And relationships. And this is the piece of advice that I 128 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.399 will actually stand by and say, this is not opinion, this is advice. 129 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.159 My answer is always the same, and it is to get rid of 130 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:16.679 three words and never say them again. And those words are not my type. 131 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.799 If you're over thirty and you're still single, you have no type. 132 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.799 Your type isn't working out for you. And when I say that on a 133 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.200 news show, it always gets a giggle. And when I say that in 134 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:33.399 our live shows, it always gets a gasp. But it is true. 135 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.639 Your answers always lie outside of your comfort zone. And some people are like, 136 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.360 oh, I like what I like and that isn't going to change. 137 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:48.240 And my response to that is a maybe you like what you're used to and 138 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:54.960 be those things are usually just preferences. I don't think they're absolutes. I 139 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:56.919 don't think if you don't have it, it's a complete deal breaker, at 140 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:03.840 least physically. There's this matchmaking back to the matchmaking thing again, which I 141 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.799 hate company out there that asks clients when they come in to give us pictures 142 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.840 of give them pictures of what they they have traditionally dated so they know what 143 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:16.519 their quote unquote type is and I'm always like, you're asking them to give 144 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.799 you pictures of examples of things that didn't work out, and you think that's 145 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.240 going to work out. Bad company, bad approach, bad industry anyway. 146 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:30.679 But the other day somebody, somebody asked me what kind of body do I 147 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:35.480 like in a woman? And I answered, listen, if I was going 148 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:41.919 to open up a strip club filled with girls that I found attractive, I 149 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:48.159 think the name of that strip club would have to be muffin Tops, a 150 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.759 little bit of squish that to me feels like a girl. And you can 151 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:58.120 be offended all you want about that buff broad's out there, but sorry, 152 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:03.200 that's just me each their own. Does that mean my girlfriend can't be in 153 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.480 super top shape or I can't have crazy fit wife? Of course not. 154 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:13.080 Probably would behoove me to have a crazy fit wife because it would motivate me 155 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:18.120 out of this dad bod, and having a dad bod with no kids is 156 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:24.039 just laziness. So to me, my little flippant comment rooted in a lot 157 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:28.519 of truth. It's at best, probably a mild quirk and at worst a 158 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:33.000 strong preference. But at the end of the day, you love what you 159 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.879 love, and that might be and should be different every time, So I 160 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.919 want to explore all of this a bit more. Wait, you're doing a 161 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.799 whole show about muffin tops now, not quite, but we will get into 162 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:56.320 all of this and all of that right after this, and we are back 163 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:03.000 and we are back to talking about type and how it is so overrated when 164 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.320 it comes to finding what you're looking for. So, maybe you've never dated 165 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.000 a redhead, and I always make the comment we notice the blonde, but 166 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:16.879 we remember the redhead because there's just not that many of them. Statistically, 167 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.240 there's not that many redheads. Sorry, gingers, you are a dying breed. 168 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.120 But if you've never dated one, it doesn't mean you don't like them 169 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:31.159 or wouldn't necessarily be attracted to one. And the same thing goes for Asian 170 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:35.600 or Latina or the aforementioned Jewish or Arab or whatever some parts of the country. 171 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.919 In some parts of the world, you just might not be exposed to 172 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.840 different quote unquote types, so you don't know whether you like them until you've 173 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:48.279 actually sampled them, sort of like me with Indian food. I think I 174 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.600 don't like it, but maybe I do. I don't know. So you 175 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.720 may not be familiar with these exotic dishes on the menu in the dating world, 176 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.840 so your brain doesn't think of them. First. You talk about or 177 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:05.799 dream about what you believe you are looking for. And we talk all the 178 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.879 time about about casting a wide net in your search, and this is part 179 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:16.120 of that. There are possibilities everywhere, all shapes, all sizes, all 180 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:24.240 colors, all flavors, and there's so many girls out there thinking they need 181 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.919 a guy of a certain height you don't, or a certain weight you don't, 182 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:35.960 or a certain income you might. But the opportunities need to be explored 183 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.240 with all of it. A woman very famously in the history of the Great 184 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:45.399 Love Debate here came to one of our shows in Los Angeles. This is 185 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:50.919 a number of years ago, and she said that she always thought she wanted 186 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:56.039 a tall guy, yet when she finally got married, her husband was five 187 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:01.240 five and when asked how that happened, she said, by the time I 188 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.679 saw him standing up, I was already in love with him. So take 189 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:11.320 a seat, ladies, give him a shot, have a conversation, find 190 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:16.879 a spark, because you never know. Not your type doesn't mean it's not 191 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:22.039 your answer. And back to the guys, especially the ones out there who 192 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:30.519 don't share my love for a little extra belly, that size zero cheerleader that 193 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:33.120 you're going to propose to and start a family with. You have no idea 194 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:37.600 what her body, or your body, or anyone else is going to look 195 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:43.080 like after fifteen years and three kids and a whole lot of life. You're 196 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:48.919 signing up for all of her and the best of her, and the best 197 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.799 of her has very little to do with how she looks in a bikini, 198 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:58.080 hopefully, and of how she looks in a bikini is the best of her? 199 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.279 You need to find the best of somebody else. I mean. Is 200 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:07.840 that why people get divorced after a decade, because they aren't attracted to each 201 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.240 other anymore? Maybe, but that almost never has to do with a specific 202 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:18.759 physical change. It's usually an attitude shift, or a conversational breakdown, or 203 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.360 a motivation shortcoming, or a financial rift or some other reason. Besides, 204 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:27.639 she doesn't wear her hair long like when we met. And that wasn't about 205 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:34.000 and it didn't come about from type. It came about from feelings. And 206 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:41.600 the feelings tend to evolve, and sometimes they get deeper and sometimes they grow 207 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.720 distant. But it isn't about I need a girl who looks like that, 208 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.320 or I need a man who's like this or does this or has this. 209 00:16:53.720 --> 00:17:00.759 It's almost always I found someone and here's what they're like, period. And 210 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:06.039 what they are like is almost never what you thought you liked or would like. 211 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:14.319 What you like is who they are, and who they are often changes 212 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:18.519 who you are and how you feel and what you believe, and all the 213 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:26.039 attraction you will ever need comes from that. So I guess what I'm saying 214 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:33.319 is open your eyes and expand your parameters and widen your horizons and whatever metaphor 215 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.960 you want to use. When you shake up that snow globe known as your 216 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.720 comfort zone, I think you will find what you're looking for, or at 217 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:47.240 least be open to all the possibilities, and the answers lie in all the 218 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:52.160 possibilities, and you want to increase that number of possibilities every single time. 219 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.799 So if you think you need someone who loves to do half marathons every Saturday 220 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:03.039 morning, maybe you do. But I'll give you a voucher for a free 221 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:08.880 lap dance at Muffintops, and I think you will discover maybe you don't. 222 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:15.519 As we've said from almost day one around here and our longtime producer, the 223 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.640 very wise two time Emmy Award winning Keco. I think she was the first 224 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:26.240 one to say this. We believe there's magic in maybe and to find that 225 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.880 magic and to tap into it and can't everything you need from it. You 226 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:40.279 got to get rid of those three words. Not my type. So thank 227 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:44.640 you for sticking with me on this hodgepodge of an episode today. I had 228 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.079 some things and I wanted to say them, and maybe that makes me a 229 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.799 good bet for Netflix or maybe not, but anyway, shoot us in email 230 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:55.160 Great Love Debate at gmail dot com. I want the Bachelor and Bacherette stories. 231 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:56.839 We are rolling that out, I believe the next episode. So we 232 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.880 have a good co host on tap for that. I've never had a Bachelor 233 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:07.720 Bacherette party because I've never been a groom. I have been to some. 234 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.720 I am not a fan of a lot of the stuff, and we will 235 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:15.799 get into all of that on the episode. Go to Great Love Debate dot 236 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:22.160 com. We do have a handful of live shows at some very nice venues. 237 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:27.400 We are probably not doing a show at the mythical Muffintops coming to a 238 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:32.039 city near you, but the City Winery in New York is a very nice 239 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:34.359 venue that is on the list. Go to Great Love Debate dot com for 240 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:41.359 that. Please share, follow, and review this podcast. Your reviews mean 241 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.400 a lot in the podcasting ecosystem. That article that I whoever wrote that article 242 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.240 about the Netflix thing, it got around and it got to me because people 243 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.680 shared it. 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