Hello, and welcome to see you at the Body RICTA. I am Joseph
bet Castro with me as always is Chris Chapman, Guden Dog and Aaron Frescas.
Hello. All right, we're multi language here for this episode. We're
gonna be doing something special in something we haven't done before, because nothing like
this has existed before. We're gonna be covering Arnold's Netflix show Fubar, but
for this episode to be the first four episodes. So this episode of the
podcast me first four episodes of the show. It's eight episodes long, and
uh yeah, I mean, if you want to know, it's a twenty
twenty three action comedy vehicle with Arnold. Chris has been kind enough to write
us an outline summary and we're gonna go over it. So okay, So
yeah, before Chris gets in to the like the summary part of it,
I have just got a tiny bit of quick production in Foe. So.
The first episode was directed by Phil Abraham, but the episode was written by
Nick Santorre, who is also credited as the show's creator. So he also
wrote a handful of episodes of the show prison Break, as well as the
two thousand and eight movie Punisher war Zones starring Rave Stevenson, which, like
I said, is actually quite enjoyable. It's like a nice a middle ground
between like the Thomas Jane one and then the way more serious you're talking about,
the serious the Netflix show. Yeah, the Netflix one more comic Bookie
than both of them. Okay, gotcha. And then the first four episodes
also have Lillian Wang, Michael J. Gutierrez, and Kate Duffy listed as
staff writers. So yeah, the show was produced by sky Dants, which
is the same production company that made the last two Terminator movies. And I
only mentioned that because I was curious how exactly Nick Santorra became involved with the
show, Like I was curious if maybe Arnold Ham picked him or something like
that. But apparently, according to Variety, like a Variety article that I
found, it seems like part of the reason he was chosen was because he
actually already had a development deal in place with Guy Dance. Huh interesting.
So yeah, I believe he's is sky Dance like somebody's production company, the
way like Scott Free is like Ridley Scott's production company. I think it's I
think a guy's names like David Ellison or something like that. Oh okay,
like, I'm pretty sure that's who by David Ellison in twenty ten. Oh
yeah, it's not very old. Yeah, it's newer than I thought it
was. Yeah, it's weird because on my Google search, the first thing
that pulls up is it's founded in twenty ten, and then kind of on
the side here it says Skydance Media is an American production company founded by David
Elson two thousand and six. What was he doing before? I don't know.
Okay, yeah, weird anyway, so, uh yeah, I believe
he's actually he actually, I'm pretty sure is the showrunner for Reacher on Amazon
Prime, which was part of his deal with sky Dance. I've heard good
things, but I've only seen like one episode. Was it any good?
It was decent, it was fine. Okay, I've only seen the movie.
The movie was kind of fun. Yeah, it was fine. Yeah.
So yeah, that's it for the credits, I guess for this episode.
All right, So, in case you've never heard of this show,
fu Bar is starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'm gonna run through the cast real quick
because character names get a little confusing later. But the main characters are Arnold
as Luke Brunner. We have Monica Barbaro as Emma Brunner. I have no
idea. I don't think I've ever seen her in anything, but she I'm
pretty sure. Like a lot of the reviews mentioned that she was in a
the New Top Gun movie. Oh okay, apparently she's really good in it,
but I've never haven't seen Oh she she might be one of the pilots.
Was Lieutenant Natasha. Yeah, if she's one of the pilots, I
vaguely remember. I saw the movie once. Okay, but anyway, let's
see. Barry, who is Arnold's best friend in the show, is played
by Milan Carter, which, again I've never heard of him. I don't
think I've seen him in anything, but I really like him. I think
he's pretty funny in the show. Yeah, apparently he's in Dolomite is my
Name, And I know he doesn't have very many credits, but he's in.
To watch that movie and I never got around to it. I don't
remember him in that, but I haven't seen it in a while. Then
we have the rest of Arnold's team Fortune Feimster Feimster, right, Yeah,
I think so Fortune Feiinster is Rue who is one of the field agents and
she's like a super genius in the show. I guess, oh is she?
Yeah, like they have her do sciencey stuff every once in a while.
And then there's Alden who is played by Travis van Winkle, who I
don't know anything about him. He was in the only thing I know him
from is he is in I think it was like two thousand and nine or
something like that, The Friday the thirteenth, like reboot the okay, gotcha,
the only thing I know him from. So that covers the main spy
team. And then the main villain is Gabriel Luna as Boro Polonia and Gabriel
Luna you will remember is the Polite Terminator from Terminator Dark Fate. Yeah,
he's also in the Last of Us. Yeah, he plays Tommy and The
Last of Us very recently. And that is that's the main cast. Like
there's some supporting people, but I really don't recognize like a lot of people.
They're not important. Yeah anyway, all right, let's see. So
episode one we begin in Belgium meeting Luke Brunner, a season CIA operative,
finishing up his last job before retirement, We see him kicking all sorts of
ass and also meet Barry, who acts as his handler and is his best
friend. Sorry, real, real quick, real quick. The summary is
are going to be super brief on Chris's part. We're going through every scene.
We're doing four episodes, so there's no way I'm going through every scene.
Okay, cool. So I have like a couple things about the like
the opening scene. Yeah, first of all, like six five years old
and he's actually seventy six, which I thought was interesting. They just aged
down a little bit. Secondly, the beating on the diamonds confused me when
I watched it, because so he goes in and eas like I had to
turn the subtitles on because I was very confused about that. Oh really,
yeah, well I looked it up. According according to the WP Diamonds dot
Com quote, diamonds are not wettable, So like beads of water on a
candle, these gems like to resist water, which why does it happen on
bonded carbon atoms on the surface like to bind to grease based things. This
is why diamonds get dirty, the little greasy things, so be sure to
clean them. Therefore, there are a few there are a few bonds left
for water to attract. Gotcha. So wait, so so a cut diamond
would like get wet, like the water wouldn't bead. Okay, so basically
like oil and water, you know, they don't mix. Yeah exactly.
I was just confused by the scene because I was like, okay, so
first I thought, like the diamonds, he thought the diamonds were fake because
there were beads of water on them. Yeah, but he doesn't think they're
fake. It's just well I think he noticed the beads, which that's some
good diamonding right there, dealing with a lot of diamonds. Sorry, this
was bog bugging me because I was like, wait, what the fuck?
And then he noticed it when he smelled him because he smelled like resident Yeah
exactly, he smelled the whatever he used to blow the voult. Yeah.
I'd like that scene. I think that the cyanide stuff is fun where he's
like he has a cyanide capsule and he's like, basically he tells the guy,
well, this is cyanide, so I kill myself. He takes it
and then he's like, oh wait, I took the antidote. And then
he just kicks everybody's ass and shoots everybody. Yeah. But anyway, they
go home and meet Emma, his daughter. We learned that Emma is practically
perfect in basically every way. She's a straight a overachiever and went on to
become a globe trotting philanthropist. Luke's only problem with Emma is her choice in
men, specifically J. Barshell. Also Luke's shitty disappointment of a son is
there anyway? Luke is clearly still in love with his ex wife Tally and
plans to get her back with a yacht from the CIA now that he's retiring.
So we real cook At the birthday party, his wife looked familiar.
I don't recognize her from anything. I looked it up and that's a lot
of vagina from Austin powers is by who shagged me? Really? Yeah,
holy shit? And then J. Burshell pretty much played the same role as
usual. But yeah, he's playing J Barshell, Yeah exactly. And then
there was one of the one of the lines that I liked in this that
scene was those paintings don't finger themselves. Yeah, because he's a kindergarten teacher.
Yeah. And then that like father daughter interest scene is like upon the
like the third rewatch is just corny. I don't think that's so bad,
and I think she's doing a decent job in that, Like, yeah,
it's the problem is that you know she's a spy, so it seems like
she's being fake. If that was an actual reveal, I think that scene
would come off a lot better. But it just becomes obvious that the dialogue's
forced because like he somehow thinks like his dialogue on there is forced because he's
like naming up. I think all the dialogues forced. Yeah, I mean
that's what acting is, I know, but like there's subtle ways to do
it, and this show's not great at it. Yeah, I don't.
I don't like most of the dialogue in the show. But yeah, so
I had no idea what the show was about when I started watching. Really
yeah, I didn't watch anything on it, and I probably wouldn't have picked
up that she was a spy except for the name of the fucking episode,
take Her Down a Workday, which you pointed out when we were watching it.
Yeah, as soon as they get to the camp where the other terminator
is running the t or T, the polite terminator, that's what I And
they're like, oh, you know, he's the best or whatever. I'm
like, oh, that's his fucking yeah. So Luke is clearly still in
love with his ex wife. He's gonna get her back now that he got
a yacht from the CIA, just despite the fact that she is in a
relationship with one of the Ninja turtles at his retirement party, is it a
ninja turtle as his name is Don Tello? Oh okay, jesus. So
we're at his retirement party and we are introduced to the rest of Luke's team.
I have no idea. I'm pretty sure he's even a little old to
be even one of the originals. We meet the rest of Luke's team,
Alden and Rue, before Luke gets pulled into one last job, which is
saving an embedded agent from an international terrorist named Boro that he helped to create
while also stealing Borough's w MD, which is like a handheld nuke Fortune Fortune
Fine Star. Yeah. Yeah. And then Travis von Winkel. They're pretty
much, if this is a unofficial true life sequel, which sort is,
they're pretty much filling the Tom Arnold role basically. Unfortunately, they doubled the
Tom Manold trip, the Tom Arnold roll, so like, yeah, I
don't know, I mean, I still it's it's I don't mind it.
I mean, I'll talk about it later. I like all of them individually,
it's just too much for me. And then another line that I liked
his I even waited him for or even waited for him to get off the
compound before I threw his dad off a cliff. That is funny. Let's
see. So Luke heads down to Boro's base in Guiana, where compound is
compound, sorry, I want to compound, where he is greeted as an
old friend because he basically one of his undercover aliases was a friend of Boro's
dad and so he's known of his whole life. While they tour the Bass,
Luke is introduced to the embedded agent, who turns out to be Emma,
his daughter, revealed to be pretty much the opposite of how her father
sees her. He is introduced to her in the middle of a fucking like
prize fight as she is smoking and beating the shit out of somebody and cursing
and smoking, which again I told Joe and I told Erica this again when
we rewatched it. But that revealed that it was his daughter who would have
had no impact if I hadn't known what the show is about, because like,
I wouldn't have known the same actress. I would have been like,
you wouldn't have recognized her? No, I was like, who is that?
That's like, that's fair. She's only been in one scene for like
three minutes so exactly, and it does doesn't maybe have any like distinctive.
Yeah, she does look different, like she's got her hair up and stuff
and yeah, yeah. So Barry then reveals that he knew about Emma and
that Cia has been keeping the Bruners totally separate for the whole for her whole
career. Later, Boro holds a big party to honor Luke and also to
murder his accountant. Even later that night, Luke and Emma kill some of
Borough's men. Emma does so as a complete fucking maniac. She like hides
inside a cow and then and then stabs a dude who comes up to look
at it. But anyway, they do that so that they can intercept the
guy who's gonna rat out Emma. And there are fighting and arguing the entire
time as the Bruners plan to steal the nuke the next morning and continue to
fight. Boro shows up furious and his dead men are found, proving that
Luke and m R traders, so they make a run for it. The
Bruners steal the nuke and helps smuggle a family out of Borough's operation. After
surviving an absolutely insane car crash, the Bruners arrived to the airstrip to find
that their ride is late, but Boro is not, and he surrounds them
with his with all his gunmen. And that's where episode one ends. The
line that caught me in that was Barry's a Lilo and Stitch line, just
steck me up, stupid. I like what fortune Fibster says right after that,
I didn't write down the line. Yeah, she says something Lewde and
says, I think that's from Frozen. Yeah, I think he says kiss
my eyes and then yeah, yeah, all right. Episode two. Okay,
before we get into episode two, just a credits again, like the
production credits. So this episode was directed by Holly Dale, who was looking
up. Has a ton of television directing credits, like mostly primetime shows though,
but she's directed everything from Law and Order to NCIS to Agents of Shield
to Castle, just a lot of cop procedural shows. Yeah, and then
it was written by Scott Sullivan, who it looks like Nick Santorra brought over
from Reacher because he's he's also wrote like a few episodes of that. But
he wrote a bunch of episodes of a show called Scorpion, which I believe
was also developed by Nick Santorro. And I've never heard of it before.
I've heard of it, I never watched it. It's it's very much like
it had a ton of episodes. I think there was like ninety or something
on ninety episodes, Yeah, I think so. Like, I've never heard
of that show before. I think it was all these all these network shows
get made and they have so many more seasons than I think they do.
Centrist Genius forms an international network of super geniuses to act Okay, never mind
this, that's just a funny eccentric Genius forms an international network of super geniuses
to act as a last line of defense against the complicated threats of the modern
world. There's a lot of subcategories of genius. Yeah, so it's that
one has ninety three episode. It was on Front twenty fourteeny eighteen. Wow,
I've never heard of this show before. Okay anyway, so yeah,
so he was like wrote a bunch of episodes of that. But uh yeah,
that's it for the episode two production stuff. Episode two yeah for director
rider credits. So let's get into this business. Episode two picks up exactly
the same moment, so as Borrow's men held everyone at gunpoint, Luke tells
Borrow the story of how he killed Borough's father to buy some time until the
cavalry arrives in the form of Barry Alden and Rue in a helicopter. I
kind of did Gabriel lun in the role, like even tho if it's a
bit oh, he's still good. Yeah, but it's like, I don't
know, he's playing a good like megalomaniac. Yeah, like it for sure.
Yeah, and especially because I've only seen him in Terminator movie, which
he's a Terminator so actually yeah, and then Last of Us which he's Tommy,
so he's very like low key and he's not really in it too much.
Yeah, he's not in it a ton so yeah, so yeah,
this is a different thing than I've seen him in it. I like it,
you know, it is over the top but it's supposed to be over
the top, so yeah, yeah. Back at HQ, the CIA informs
Luke and Emma that they have to finish the Bool case together, to the
sgrin of both father and daughter. Uh, Luke forces Barry to begin surveillance
on Donnie the Dude bing and his ex wife. We see Emma hanging out
with Jay Barrowshell to drive home that he's a lovable dork and that being a
spy makes relationships hard so real quick that the director's big as scar across her
face just kind of makes like fills like a callback to Charlton Heston's eyepatch.
I don't want to look dumb, but I literally did not know she had
a scary She has a big s car like a joker scar, like really
like yeah, like on the left side of her face. It looks like
if you have a gaming headset. It looks like, yes, it does
look like the mic So maybe you didn't notice that because he thought she had
like a microphone. Oh man, I feel really stupid. She has a
big scar and just yeah, it may like Charlton Hestin just because he has
the eye passion true lies. Yeah, but I feel like Charlton Heston would
just supposed to be Nick Fury in the movie. So true. Then the
uh, first of all, with the Donny thing, you think they would
avoid the whole spye in the ex wife plot because or spying on the wife
plot, considering it's a pretty big plot point. Four true lies, I
guess, but they like, yeah, I mean, you're not wrong,
but they are. They are specifically spying on Like, he's not spying on
Tally, He's only spying on Donald. Yeah, it's it's just like it
is the same thing. It's it's basically just Bill Paxson. But yeah,
yes, this is already gonna get like compared to it. Yeah. And
then like the couple of lines that I liked where he's paying for Cinemax.
I knew he was a pool. I have that as one of my favorite
lines. That's just it's a good line and it's a good delivery. I
knew he was a purvot. And then he's holding the whole family. That's
that is. That is number two on things I like about this series,
which is just hearing Arnold repeatedly pronounced cuckolding as cock holding. And then I
was looking to Donnie's IMDb, and I wasn't sure what I knew. Somebody
apparently was in Jurassic World, which I don't remember him in, Like was
he the dad? At first one you can think, yeah, I don't
know. I know I've seen him in a bunch of stuff, but yeah.
Next we go to a briefing room scene to show us that it actually
is a good idea to force the Brunners to work together. We also introduced
Barry's romantic interest Tina, and we also introduce a wacky but surprisingly effective psychologist
to solve all the daddy daughter issues. Luke and Barry crashed Tally's family dinner
to put a tracker on Donnie's car. Also, Luke's good for nothing ship
back of his son is there. Next day, we find out Boro is
going to steal some radioactive waste from a bullet train to make a new bomb,
so the Bruners will be on board to stop him. Sorry, I
just really like that we don't pay any attention to his son, Like the
entire story is about Emma, and even though his life was probably also irreparably
fucked up by Arnold being a spy, they're just like, yeah, but
he turned out to be a piece of shit, so like, we don't
care. He's trying to get you to Yeah, yeah, he's trying to
borrow money. Come on, now, he's trying to get investments for that's
gonna fail, Yeah exactly. That scene also has one of the weaker like
right writing writing tropes that I'm not a fan of, when Arnold can't admit
that he's like there because he wants his to see his X because he's stubborn
or like a man or whatever. Like I fully agree that it's a trope.
I just think that my in my opinion, the best acted scenes by
Arnold are the ones where he actually gets to be sincere with either Tally or
Emma. So I kind of like that scene, especially since it sets up
a slightly better scene later on. It does. It does set up the
better scene, that's true, and just the whole Like I I'd rather do
the opposite of what I want than admit my feelings. It's just yeah,
anyway, it's it's a little played out. But yeah, uh so now
we are going to the train. So instead of stopping the train, Borrow's
men actually try to perform a daring helicopter heist while the train is moving,
made possible mostly by Luke not fully trusting Emma's instincts. He he doesn't trust
her instincts because she calls out, specifically the guy who she thinks is working
for Borow, and he like he kind of agrees with her, but he
still is like, no, you gotta wait, like you gotta let's let's
let's play it cool. Her her instinct is to go, let let's go
fuck him up. I'm like, you're here in the middle of a train,
like, there's a bunch of people around, Like, no, like
seriously the worst secret agents. Yeah, I mean they they definitely should not
have done it immediately, but I think Arnold also should have. Like I
don't know, I think it was the right thing to do to eventually go
over there and stop him, or to keep an eye on him. Yeah,
yes, like Arnold sitting there like distracting her by trying to talk to
her about their relationship. But anyway, so Luke and Emma speed up the
train to stop the heist by forcing the helicopter to disconnect, but then they
can't slow it down normally because Luke screwed up when he was trying to do
a little Donnie surveillance. So now the train is going to crash into the
station and basically irradiate the whole town. And that is the end of episode
two. So her boyfriend calls her mom in the middle of this to complain.
Yeah, basically what happens is j Barrowshell. They were supposed to go
to Antique's road show together and she has to not go because of the mission.
He is kind of bummed out about it, especially since it doesn't go
his way when he's there. And then her mom basically texts them and says
like urgent, urgent, please call me, yes, And then she calls
her and she's like, man, Jay Bearshell is really down in the dumps,
and she's like, you call this a fucking emergency. So because it's
right in the middle of when the train's gonna crash, so on top of
that, it was just like sorry, it was just like her you called
her mom? Come on, man, uh yeah, I mean I don't
know. They didn't. I mean he must have, but they didn't show.
They didn't they didn't show what he knowed. They didn't show what he
did. But he definitely called her, especially because like he later we see
what happens when he proposes to so he definitely called her, which is just
we I don't know. I'm also not close to anybody, so maybe that's
it was like trying to be close to their parents' Chris, Yeah, like
what a pussy. I'm just like, sorry, I probably shouldn't laugh that
loud at my brother's emotional isolation, but that was hilarious. Oh my god.
The one thing I'll say is I agree that they are clearly writing him
in a way that doesn't always make sense, because they clearly need her to
break up with him by the end of the series. Yes, so that
kind of bothers me. However, I don't really I think what he is
is just a nice counterpoint to their family. Yes, in that he communicates
is like a sweet person say about me. I'm like, that's why I
was laughing so harder. Show again, That's why I was laughing so harder.
We're just trying to talk to your family. Yeah, you recognize the
differences, but you clearly are like on the rock side of it. I'm
just pretty much being on Schwarzenegger. Yeah exactly, which again just reminds me
of like when we were talking about uh, I think you were there when
we were talking about a family member who's close to their family, uh huh,
And we were like, my sister was there who lives across the country,
so she's visiting and one of our family members is there and her family's
very close. H And after they leave, we're all at my mom's house
and we just start ripping on the family for being close, like all three
of us, like what a bunch of fucking freaks, Like what are they
talking and hugging and stuff like that, Like did you see one of them
sitting neither there's lap that's fucking weird, Like what a bunch And then I
think I pointed out like how sad is this that we're like I don't know
if my mom was sitting there, but I know it was the three of
us just like being like, oh, a bunch of fucking weirdos. Like
just like, while I do think you are slightly emotionally stunted, also that
family, that family, that part of the family is fucking weird. Yes,
so you're not still, but still it was. It was just funny
because like just had a moment of like how sad is this? And we
like what we can't handle like love any sort of. It was like,
yeah, God, it's fucking weirdos. Also the line when they're spitting up
the train and uh, fortune pretty much has all the good lines. Yeah,
but when she says sounds like Donny Donny Boy's going on a tally rally
just yeah, that's right after they find out he took four VIAGRAA that's what
she says, and it's and then something about his pants too, like they
said something and he's like she's kind of like Johnny's Chino's or something like that.
Yeah, she has a few good lines. Yeah, when they're talking
about Donnie Bingen his ex wife. But yeah, that's that's my uh anyway.
Yeah, before we get going with episode three, a little more production
stuff. This episode was also directed by Hollydale, who directed the last one,
and then it was written by Adam Higgs, who is actually also credited
with helping develop or from Black, which I've never seen but heard was good.
Yeah. Same, I know, I know that's supposed to be like
Lost. That's the one where what's her name from chi Hulk tatianas Maslani.
That's that's like her breakout role where she plays like thirteen different people or something.
Is it? Is it? Is it the one that's supposed to be
like a like a non anthology, but like, no, no, it's
it's like a it's like a I think a sci fi premise where she's got
like multiple personalities. Okay, yeah, okay, I've never seen hearty was
good. I heard I've only heard good things. But yeah, that's it
for the writing direct credits. So go ahead with with that episode cool or
with this episode? I guess episode three? Go got it right? Uh
So, now we're onto episode three, We're still on the train. Everything
is gonna crash. Basically, they solve it, so now they have to
pump nuclear waste into the trains drive system for science, which if you just
if you just pump some hot in air, that's what Donnie was thinking.
Yeah, that's probably where that kind of uh So, Luke helps Emma climb
out on top of the train using the magnetic vests that they got from their
therapists. They have a little fight and she can finally convinces him to let
her go. She grabs the tube to transfer the waist, slow down the
train, and save the day. Okay, the writing for this scene makes
me appreciate the subtletya and I used that with quotes subtlety of James James Cammon's
writing. Yeah, Like it's very like you gotta let me go. Yeah,
but I don't want to let you go, but you gotta. Eventually,
I'm like, oh my god, like literally and metaphorically, you must
let it, don't. Yeah, that's yeah anyway, So, yeah,
they save the day. Emma makes Luke stop the surveillance of Donnie and then
tries to smooth over some relationship issues with Jay Burshell. Then the show begins
to set up a romance between Emma and Alden Yeah, which was weird.
Yeah, Luke has a little heart to heart with tallyasically he shows up at
the house again when it's just the two of them and they kind of have
a nice conversation. We see Boro torturing the man that Luke smuggled out of
Guiana for some very vague details about Emma, including her first name and the
fact that she plays violin. I love how Gabriel Luna is putting his like
the characters, putting his PowerPoint skills the use when he's like clicks on the
next slide and adds two boxes next to his very basic PowerPoint. It's like
just the word Emma and then a picture of a violin. It's literally just
like it's just white font on a back black background. It says Emma,
and he's like, this is all we have to come. Just can imagine
him like doing the PowerPoint like he's like that looks He's like, I don't
know what she looks like and putting image like playing with the fonts for like
half an hour, like I would could get a star fade in on that
violin shot. No, not star, it's god of slow fade. I
don't know what you got them. Seriously, come on, I was wonderfully
like should I put a strata aris in there? Like will they will?
They will? These fuckers even recognize that there's stars in there, like or
fiddle in there, and they wouldn't know it. Also, the picture of
young Arnold with the kid, like young it was obviously like nineties, Yeah
it was. It was nineties Arnold with a kid. I was gonna say,
they should have used the picture of Arnold's real kid with like that he
had with the nanny. But that was just what it looked like, like
miniature Arnold Georgiana because that kid looks exactly like it. Oh yeah, I
was kind of wondering, like, is that just photoshopped or is that like
a picture of a real fan. I don't know, it's probably photoshoped.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I figured. But they showed a picture of
uh, like, uh, Gabriel. I keep wanting to say Diego Luna
because they have the same last name, and I wrote it once and I
was like, that's not I don't think that's the right thing. But uh,
of Gabriel Luna when he was a kid early. I was curious if
that was actually a picture of him photoshopped with a different actor. But I
actually look anyway. Anyway, let's see. Then he sets a room full
of as Aaron was saying, he sets a room full of hackers to find
the real identity of both Luke and Emma. Luke and his crew celebrate their
victory on his new yacht, where Rue starts trying to help Barry hook up
with Tina the tally Ho. Yeah, the tally Ho, which they inform
him is probably a bad name if he's trying to get back with Tally.
Tina gets a lead on Borow's next move, so the celebration is cut short
to go find a missing nuclear scientist. Just a reminder, Tina is an
NSA agent who is again the only reason I care is that she's Barry's love
interest, because that's a storyline. Yeah, she got introduced in the Before
They went I mentioned earlier, I just didn't mention the name. Yeah,
and how timid the Tina. The girls also sort of about me, just
because it's another trope to like it's the timid smart girl. They constantly bring
it to attention. Ye, Like, yeah, definitely. Just the way
they write the characters is very Yeah. I mean she's got one character.
Yeah, but it's also one dimensional. She's got one characteristic. That's that's
it. Yeah, She's she's shy. Yeah, that's so they're looking for
it. They're trying to find a missing nuclear scientist. Then we see Emma
talking to Ja Barshell about the future and having kids, during which Barshell turns
weirdly old fashioned so that Emma will have an excuse to dump him and go
out with the hot spy let's see. Then we get another briefing for the
next mission, which is to break into a facility to steal the missing scientists
research so that they can find out what else Boro needs for his bomb.
And I didn't realize how overcomplicated this part of the plot was until I had
to write it down, and I was like, oh Jesus Christ. Well,
first off, you see that Arnold was spying on on so he knows
about the kid thing. Oh, he was going to pick up Emma,
and he like eavesdropped on them as they were having a conversation. Yeah.
Also, I only mention that because Arnold saying nude was great. Yeah,
what do you want to do with that nude it? Yeah? Exactly.
Okay, so you guys arh complaining about how simple, simplistic so much stuff
is, and then you're also complaining about how overcomplicated this plot is. To
again, no, no simplistic. Yeah, characters need to be multi dimensional
to be interesting. That part of the plot is really complicated. What is
it? I actually, I'm super enjoying the show, so I didn't notice
this stuff. I didn't notice this stuff until the second time watching it,
Like every the first time watching it, I've been watching with Erica. The
first time watching this has been super fun. Like i've been watching it,
I've been super interested in like I enjoy all the characters. I'm starting to
notice a little bit of stuff about Arnold, like just like complaining about the
daughter stuff a lot is getting a little like a tired joke. But otherwise
I'm enjoying the show so far. It's just like the second time through,
I was like noticing like stuff as far as character development, and it's only
character development, Like I'm enjoying the rest of stuff. And I would say
that this is the only part of the plot that I felt was over complicated,
this particular mission, which not not that they do a bad job explaining
it, but it is a lot of Like the first time I watched this,
I didn't really understand what the point of the mission was. I was
just like, Okay, they're going and they need to steal some data from
this guy, and that's that's good enough for me. But when I actually
try to parse out, like exactly what they're doing, I was like,
Oh, they crammed a lot into this one episode as far as the plot
goes. They have a ton of briefing scenes like like the fifth or sixth
one in the three episodes, and it's a super effective way to do it,
Like an exposition exposition dump. Yeah, but that's one of my notes.
But then also that poob beer scene with Travis man Winkel, Like I
was telling Chris before, he plays just like a great charming douchebag. He's
so good at it. Yea, I love those two. The two uh
Tom rrole split sec Well, that's what office jobs are, like a lot
of fucking meetings. So yeah, So the plan to get this information that
they need is that Alden will seduce a Moldovan bureaucrat to get access to the
research files. Emma is kind of grossed out by the honeypot concept and debates
Alden about it a little bit, which is weird considering she's done it before.
Should we find out later? Yes, we find out, she says
later that she's done it before. She says that she's had to get close
to people, but she has never so much just kissed anybody in order to
do her job. Are you sure? She says? She says to him,
she has never so much just kissed anybody while since she's been with Carter,
Yes, since she's been, but she's done that before. She kind
of she's okay, yeah, okay, fine, So so like that's why
it was weird that she's giving him or she was like, wait, what's
going on? But a lot of this would work better if she was a
new agent, because you're explaining stuff and explaining stuff and explaining stuff to where
she should know all this shit already. There's another scene that's coming up to
where you're like, why are they explaining it to her? Which I know
because they're explaining to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that would
make a little more sense. This works a lot better if it's a new
agent. This isn't something you need to explain to someone that's been there for
what eight years? Yeah? So yeah, anyway, go ahead, Yeah,
no, that makes sense. Let's see. Oh yeah. So later
that night, when they arrive, as Alden and Emma wait in a bar
for the target, it becomes apparent the target is in fact a straight man,
and it's Emma who will have to pull off the honeypot. Despite Luke's
objections. Alden helps Emma get ready to seduce and eases her guilt kind of
about possibly cheating on Jay Burrowshell, further laying the groundwork for a possible partner
swap with her giving him shit. When they were on the plane about being
like a chauvinistic d bag. The scene is just written to where it's always
like those two characters that I'm hooking up, so like, yeah, it's
usually like while they're yelling at each other before saying are you as turn on
as I am? More? And then they start like making out. It's
the rum com thing. They have to start out disliking each other, and
that's how you know they're going to end up together. But what if they
don't. It's a possibility. We haven't finished the series. I would be
interested in that. I hope it makes that turn, But yes, so
do I Like I kind of hope that they figure stuff out with Jay Bershew,
but it's not looking so great. It's great. So Emma successfully gets
the invite back to the target's room, so Rue and Luke head there to
do some recon and plan the exit strategy. We go to Borrow to see
that he has abducted the missing scientist as suspected. Luke has to listen to
his daughter do some further seduction as the team tries to access the data that
she is mining, but eventually they find that the files aren't there, so
Emma has to break into a physical safe to get the hard copy of the
research. When Alden is trying to figure out if Nick's gay was that that
was a very good scene. He liked very quickly he turns around, He's
like, maybe I still have a shot at this. He turns around,
he like makes eyes at the guy, and the guy ignores him, and
he's like, Nope, it's a lost cause he's straight. And they're like
and they're like, how do you know he's straight just by looking at it?
He's like, because he didn't want any of this come on the chakan
a line I thought was really funny too. Emma pulls the full honeypot and
breaks into the safe, but as soon as she gets the research, the
target wakes up and points a gun at her head, and that is the
end of episode three. Any idea what that emo rock song was, because
that was curious about don't have time to look it up because it sounded like
nineties, Like, yeah, that was God, who was that? It's
not Bush, It's it's a song I've heard a bunch ye sound like Stone
Teable Pilots or Bush or something. Yeah, it's more more Bush into like
fuck not Oasis, but like yeah, something more like bush or like or
like that space hog song that was in the Guardians trailer, uh fox space
It wasn't a remember okay anyway, and then she breaks into the safe mm
hmm by using her lipstick thing. But they just said that they can't leave
any evidence behind. So that's that's what I didn't get. That's so she
cons basically into that, like the safe' is fucking done because she breaks a
huge hole into it. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I did not
care to believe they didn't They didn't want to go in there all gung ho
because then you would immediately let Len know and everybody would immediately know, and
then they would get the word out and then you know, uh Bolo or
whatever his name is, Yeah, oh, get word of it and change
stuff. So if they just did that for the safe and took the stuff
and like put it back on there and close the door, who knows when
he's going to go in there. I guess that's there in the morning.
Yeah, it could be a few weeks. The only thing. The only
thing is they make a big deal about how they can't just knock him out.
Yeah, And I'm like, I don't see a huge like, if
you knock him out, you can just tell him he fell asleep. I
don't know, they were both drunk. I'm sure. I don't know.
Yah, but I don't know, But yeah, I get. I guess
that kind of makes sense, is that that if you if you put the
fake if you put the fake wall back, it's like, how long until
he actually goes into that safe? It's at least a few days. And
if it if it even was a fake wall, it just like she not
yeah she said it was like a false Oh did you call it? Yeah,
it was like a false wall. It's how she found the safe.
Oh no, no, I'm talking about the hole she cuts in the safe.
No, no, no, I know, but I'm just saying,
if, like, when you close the safe and put the wall back,
it's like, when's the next time he's going to use the safe? So
yeah, that makes enough sense before we uh yeah, before we get going
with episode four. So this one credits again. This one was directed by
Stephen A. Addelson, who has a bunch of director credits for shows that
are based on movies, like he has Twelve Monkeys, The Exorcist, Training
Day Limitless. Uh so yeah, that's the director of this episode, stephen
A addleson, and then it was written by Penny Cox, who wrote a
couple episodes of Reacher, as well as wrote episodes of the Scream TV show
that was on HIMTV, and then a couple episodes of Vampire Daries. Yep,
that's it. Okay, let's uh get into four now, let's see.
Yeah, so we're into episode four. She's got a gun to her
head. Emma very skillfully talks her way out of getting shot and casually walks
out the front door. As Luke rampages onto the scene to try to save
her, he feels a little run down. Yep, that's an arnold line
after running the security guard over. There was a good one in episode one,
and I forgot to write it down. I don't know. Alden flirts
with Emma some more on the way home as Rue gives Barry more romantic advice
about Tina. Luke has a heart to heart with Emma regarding mutual respect moving
forward between the two of them, and kind of regarding guilt over cheating on
their partners, ending with basically the conversation ends with Emma deciding that she may
have to break up with Jay Barroshell. Anyway, when the two of them
get home, Jay Barroshell proposes to Emma and she immediately says, yes.
I wonder if those rules that he told Emma about cheating on his wife for
like Arnold's personal rules. Of course they were. Of course they were that
he brought to the to the production. He's like okay, he's like,
what is this? No, no, you can's why the presence, that's
why that's so much better written than the rest of the show. So anyway,
yeah, they go home. He proposes to Emma and she says yes.
I seriously thought he might be a secret agent after this, just because
I was like, just because the characters trying so fucking hard, I was
like, okay, wait is yeah, I kind of thought, like I
was like, because I'm waiting for it like a twist. Yeah, I
am also waiting for a twist, so it's possible. But so I was
trying to figure out who it is, and I was like, okay,
like, I feel like it might be jaj Burshall just because he's not connected
to anything else. I have a suspicion it might be Tina. Tina Okay,
yeah, I could be you know, I'm less convinced of that after
the first two episodes, but I still it might be who's Tina agent the
guy the lady Barry wants to go out? Is this going to turn into
a what's that fucking raw deal? Where you're like, I don't know anybody
name, which I didn't until I looked it up, Like I didn't know
her name is Tina. I had to look up Alden's name. And I
did have to look up Alden's name. They say way more than they say
Alden. Yeah, yeah, Okay, So that's why I guess I was
confused by his own outfit there for a second. So you're you're saying Tina
might be a secret CIA agent, but no, no, like like it's
double agent. Aaron specifically said he suspected j Barshell might be a spy because
I got that suspects a twist, I said, I the first two episodes,
I kind of thought Tina was going to be the plant and that she
was going to betray them in the end, and she was getting at them
through Berry. I'm less convinced of that after episode three and four, but
it's still a possibility in my bat shit, Okay, I thought you were
saying like she's going to secretly work for the CIA. I'm like, okay,
twist is that the NSA. I went for the CIS. She's just
like, she doesn't work for the NSA. She works for the FBI.
Worst twist ever. And they're like, all right, is that? Okay?
Said that I actually worked for the FBI, and like and then the
season ends. That's the cliff season cliffhanger. Yeah that what does that mean?
There's gonna be a lot of paperwork now, so no one, Joe
like, you're like, everyone's straightforward. I didn't even I haven't thought about
it. He just respects. I was just now, now, when now
I'm going to be expecting a twist? And then when it happens, is
that gonna be like, oh, you fucking assholes? I mean, we
will be wrong. The only other person I'm expecting was Donnie, but I
was it kind of like went away like after yeah, he's too uh,
yeah, he's too much of a goober. We cut to Luke and j
Barshell out at sea on Luke's yacht, debating the idea of asking for a
father's blessing, which the conversation essentially concludes with Luke having a sort of begrudging
respect for Bearshell, okay, so Joe, did you ask for uh Laura's
dad's blessing when you when you got married? No? And also blessing is
different than permission. But no, they wait, what did he say?
Do you say permission or blessing? No? I think he said blessing.
Blessing. It's usually implied that that means permission. Okay, yeah, that's
part. And yeah, I asked the mom and dad. You figure to
ask both of them. That's true. That's true if you're gonna ask for
blessing the women like your wife's thing, what what's up one asking the other
woman's then like you know, sorry, this is me joking. By the
way, this is serious. This is me joking. I can see her
fingers crossed. I respect Erica so much that I didn't ask anybody. But
no, they should. I got the ring from her mom, like you
stole it? Yes, yeah, off her finger after right fucking elbowed her
back of the head. Good things she didn't listen to this podcast is she
doesn't know who did that. Also, she has brain damage now, so
should we gets easy? But no, you didn't ask. No, I
mean, obviously they knew and they were cool with it. Elsie wouldn't have
given me a ring to give to Laura. Wait, so did you ask
for the ring? I don't exactly remember how the whole thing came up.
This was nine years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't
know how it came up. But yeah, it was Laura's grandma or great
grandma or somebody's ring that. Yeah, but her mom gave it to me
to give to her. So okay, yeah, don't It's like you don't
have to ask for fucking permission or anything. You know, it's not like
you're gonna get a fucking dowry. And also, if you were going to
get a dowry, would you then be into asking permission? Wait? What's
a dowry? It's it's the thing you get when you marry a lady.
Yeah wait, like it's a medieval what's a dowry? And in medieval times,
if you we're gonna marry a lady, you got stuff with it.
You got like presents, yeah, like a couple of cows. Well,
I mean I guess you get that. Now you got you got a pig
and some money, or like some land or something from her parents. Yeah,
damn, that would be sweet. Would you rather have the presence that
you got Joe or some land? Some land? I don't care if we
got presents? Okay, but how much livestock did you get at the wedding?
Zero? It's bullshit. Yeah, No, My dowry is supposed to
be a signed bo Jackson baseball that Laura got when she was like six.
I still haven't gotten it. Yo, you better start getting your her parents
to listen to the podcast that way that you remember to give you that bo
Jackson. God, I hope they don't listen to this completely different of me,
but yeah, Also, whoever walks them down the aisle that gives them
away? Because that's another like old yuh are patriotic whatever that word is.
Yeah, it's both. It's misogynistic and patriarchal. Yeah, I mean obviously
you want parents to be cool with it, but you don't like their permission.
Basically you handle it like uh J Bearshell did exactly. Okay, yep,
marry here regardless. Hey, Erica, do you think i'd have to
ask your dad for permission? If? I think? Her response was,
I don't know if my dad's old Okay wait yes, so yeah that would
be a yes right, Like yeah, see, like I wouldn't even think
it wouldn't have been something that I would have thought about and tell like stuff
like this pops up dru. I'm like, okay, well maybe I should
ask. The only time I've ever heard of it is in fucking TV and
movies, Like, real people don't do this shit. But also, it's
whatever the girl wants. You know, your girl wants. That's true if
if she wants that, but she would probably tell you that. Yeah.
Anyway, anyway, next we see Boro wooing the missing scientists to get a
new bomb out of him. Uh and the scientist tells him that a mini
nuclear reactor is needed, so Boro sets out to find one, but he
says it's it's not something you can just find on the street. It's like,
dude, you're talking to a terrorist. Yeah. Also, he had
that's a pretty good comeback. He's like, I found you on the exactly.
He's like, he's like he's just been like you realize I'm a terrorist,
right, Like that's what I do. Yeah, I had a thing
that I was supposed to mention. Wait wait okay, oh yeah, so
uh it was when sorry, it was when he was talking to Carter on
the boat. I was like, okay when he's like, it's not a
boat, it's a ship. By the way, it's not about it's a
ship. Yeah, well you said that like eighty times exactly. Okay.
By the way, I haven't called it a boat, I've called it a
yat. True. There should be a drinking game for the show, can
sting of the lines it's not about as a ship and that's it, and
that's all. Yeah, that's it and that's all and then the okay,
so the next one is uh, no, I got him written down.
Oh okay. Uh the briefing scene. Anytime there's a briefing scene, you
take a drink. True, anytime Barry makes a nerdy reference, take a
drink there. Oh god, you'd be smashed by the end of episode one.
But the briefing scene, you're like a drink, drink until a brief
scen ends. That's like a chug. Yeah. Anyway, we go back
to Emma's engagement party with the whole team undercover. Bearroschelle meets the team,
including a very aggressive Alden, tally reveals that she quit her job, so
Luke jumps on the opportunity and hires her to work at his fitness equipment business,
which is like his cover story. Rude tries to help Barry cozy up
to Tina by basically giving him pick up artist advice. Meanwhile, Emma tries
to jump Jay Barrowshell, partially to keep him away from all the spies,
but also to try desperately to find something she likes. And she tells him
the line which line like in uh, I can't yes that line, but
in the line that Alden tells her in oh yes HELI or something like that,
Yeah, but she says the same line, which he says that he
doesn't ever mean. Yeah, So she says it to him, which I
didn't catch until the second time I watched this, and I was like,
oh, I'm assuming that, which I'm like, I'm still rooting for Jabers.
So just because I wanted to like not turn out the weight, like
I just wanted to surprise me in some way. But like it's they're pushed.
They're pushing it to where it just kind of seems like she's not into
them. Yeah, she clearly, let's see. Then we cut to a
therapy session where Luke and Emma Roll play each other as puppets, and despite
how stupid it is, I fucking love it every single time. Like I
love puppets for some reason, Like puppet humor is just funny to me.
As far as puppets are funny, the Arnold puppet is especially funny. He's
got the gigantic chin and forehead. Yeah, she's doing the voice too,
but like, I don't know, the chin gets me. I don't know
what. Yeah, he Arnold doing her voice and also doing Arnold's voice in
her voice. There's just And the great thing is how it starts off to
where the therapist, who is Scott Thompson. I think the therapist introduces it
and Emma's like, we're not going to do this is stupid, and then
you see here Art like breaking with with her. Ernold immediately does it.
Yeah, it's great. He has been desperate to do this, Yeah,
exactly. Like, by the way, this is which we're gonna end up
talking about in the next episode. But this is uh. One of the
things that some of the reviews had a problem with, which was this puppet
scene, which I was like, what are you talking about? This is
this is great? Are you talking about of all the therapy scenes, this
is my favorite one and the only one that like played its actually funny.
Yeah oh yeah. So in the next sorry, the next episode, we're
going to look back at, like I want to look back at some of
the reviews and like see what the critics have problems with as opposed to like
what we after after we finished the series. Yeah, the therapy session ends
because there's another mission briefing where the team plans to set up a fake sale
of the mini reactor that Boro needs to trap him. Uh. They decide
to use a black market dealer named nicknamed the Great Dane, who Rue hates
because he accidentally shot off her toe, which was a good call not showing
the toe, I think, yeah, But also I don't know that joke
didn't really land for me because it's like, I don't know, it's it's
a missing toe. How gross could it be? And everybody's playing it up.
It's like it's the most disgusting thing. I don't know, look up
gross toe and google. No, no, no, no no. There's
a difference between a fucking a toe with necrotizing fasci itis and fucking just a
missing toe. That's not the same fucking thing. True, well, no,
it wasn't that. It was there was a nail growing out of the
stump. Sure, how is that different than a toe? What is a
toe but a stump? Maybe? No, it's supposed to be like a
big nail, right, yeah, yeah, but it was like a nail
just coming Like if you had like a nail coming out of the side of
your hand or something, that'd be pretty gross. That's kind of what I
look like. Yeah, all right, that's just in the land for me.
But anyway, back at Luke's fitness store front, Tally meets two dickheads
who raised suspicions about Arnold's legitimacy in the fitness world. We are at cia
HQ. We find out that the Dane is in the middle of a prison
sentence, so somebody will have to take his place for a night while the
fake deal takes place. Barry volunteers to impress Tina. At the end of
the meeting, Luke confronts al Din about how he acted at the engagement party
and kind of accuses him of trying to get with Emma. On the way
to the prison, Tally calls Luke to talk about her suspicions, and he
does not do a great job of reassuring her. Oh that the team is
on a plane another drink, Yeah, that plane ride? Does a plane
ride? Take a drink? Barry gets cold feet, but is forced to
go anyway, and the Dane is successfully broken out of his cell. And
this is like one of the few notes I took like I bothered to take
on the during my summary, which is I just want to note that when
Barry breaks into the cell, he like uses his like secret spy acid to
dissolve the molding around a particular brick to break to the cell. He pushes
the brick out of the wall onto the Dane's pillow on his bed, without
having any idea that the Dane's head would not be there. For all he
know, he was pushing that brick like he didn't know where he was pushing
the brick, but that brick absolutely could have landed right on his fucking head
killed him. It might not have, but it probably wouldn't make for a
great mission. H I just think that was That's the thing I noticed that
I thought was funny. One of the reviews I was reading was basically saying
that this dude who plays the Dane did a cameo? Do ever you know
who he is? I don't know who he is. I like him.
He's funny, Yeah, he's funny. Like I don't have a problem with
him. I was just curious, like I was like, wait, because
they I think it was like the whoever does the reviews on Roger Ebert's website
now said that it was like a cameo or a guest appearance or something like
that. I'm like, wait, who what's his name? His name is
Adam Pally or Polly. Oh, I've heard of it. Why I've heard
of Adam Pally? He is like a comedian. He might have a podcast.
I don't know. Yeah, he's like Gary the cameraman in arm Man
three. Oh is he? Yeah? But I yeah, I was just
it was because I was like, wait, I've never heard Maybe he's a
writer. I don't remember anyway, Like I've heard the name before. But
I just I don't know why that's a cameo. Oh yeah, he was
in Sonic. Yeah. But was he the deputy Wade? He says Wade.
Yeah, he was the other the other cop that worked with Chiles Carston.
Okay, so they break the Dane out of his cell. Luke and
the Dane get dark knighted off the prison roof as Barry does his job by
pushing a meal tray through a door and has a nice conversation with Tino Uh.
Luke promises to keep the Dane out of prison if he helps him with
Borow, which he gladly agrees to so that he can see his wife and
child back in America. Tallygins looking into Luke's past fitness sales, which kind
of alerts the CIA that Luke is making terrible decisions by hiring his ex wife.
Boro takes the bait, sets up a meeting with the Dane as Barry
con As Barry continues to connect with Tina, Luke and Emma argue a little
bit more about Jay Barroshell while loading up the reactor, when suddenly their car
and the reactor is stolen. Luke forces the Dane to call Borrow and postpone
the meeting, but he only gets some. He only gets them thirty extra
minutes, so Luke decides to scrub the mission and put the Dane back in
prison, but the Dane runs for it after hearing this, leaving Barry and
the mission screwed. And that is where episode four ends, and that is
where the summary for today ends. Okay, which I already mentioned it Chris
again because he pretty much had to explain the last part of it to me
because I didn't watch the last fifteen minutes. I mean I did, I
did last night, but I was trying to write I didn't do it the
second time. Yeah. So scene ends, and like he writes on the
mirror, Basically, he's in the bathroom and when they go to tell him
that they have to take him back to prison, he's already gone and out
the window, and on the mirror he leaves a message, which is you
changed the deal, he writes on the mirror, because apparently the audience is
too stupid to figure out what happened. Yeah. Again, it's the problems
that I have with the show. It treats the audience like a little kid.
Anything to mention before I have like two notes. All right, I
guess I'll start. As far as this show goes, I am enjoying it
very much. Like I think the comedic acting is done well. I think
like the story and everything and just kind of the absurdist I guess, almost
satire of kind of my stuff is very well. I think the people are
funny. I don't think a lot of what they're saying is funny, but
that doesn't like the dad jokes are no, No, the dad jokes are
great. So like, what do you mean as far as like what they're
saying. I totally agree with that. No, they say stuff in funny
ways, but there's no like joke to it, you know, and it's
supposed to be a joke, but there's not a joke, but it's said
like a joke. Okay, it like the is it? Sorry, I'm
curious, I'm being I'm not playing stupid, I'm actually being stupid, Like
is it like that stuff? Because like, the only stuff that I don't
find super funny, Like I really I'm enjoying the show so far. Like
I said, the only stuff that I don't find super funny is the references
from Barry about like just references to old movies from like Okay, that's not
really funny anymore. Just that's the stuff I don't find funny. But I
tend to agree with Joe. I think the show is trying to be funny,
Like the show thinks seventy five to eighty five percent of its lines are
funny, okay, and I think that the performances make about sixty percent of
the lines funny. And it's just like the thing, like like he said,
the things that it's presenting, our jokes are not either they're not jokes
or they're just not as funny is they think they are. And it's really
the performance is selling it more than anything else. Okay, I'm gonna have
to get it. Try to think of examples for the next episode this because
I'm I will I will write down actual examples. Okay, cool, Yeah,
okay, yeah, that's my homework. Okay, I'm just curious.
Sorry, I'm not trying to I'm just actually I'm actually curious just because like
I'm curious, what like what instant instances you guys mean, because like I'm
sure I might have noticed it, but I can't think of stuff like specific
examples. I feel like Rue says a lot of that, and she does
a lot of that. Yeah, so she was like some toe stuff just
off the top of my head, But that stuff I didn't really find funny,
but a lot of her jokes I'm like, like, well, I
don't know, Yeah, I mean she has a lot of jokes, but
there's just especially with her and Alden, a lot of the stuff that they
say is set up like it's a joke, but yeah, there's not a
joke there, which I'm not saying is the problem, but like, you
know, the show would be in the next stratosphere if you know they those
jokes were actually funny, and you know, you guys mentioned the dialogue and
I guess some of its force, like I'm not you know, it's not
the fucking wire or some shit. But overall, like I'm just really enjoying
the show, Like it's glad to see Arnold, Like this is the best
thing he's had to work with. And what like twenty years, I can't
think of anything that's I remember not minding the Last Stand, but we again
on rewatch. Also, yeah, there's some other stuff I haven't watched,
Like I haven't watched the Last Stand. I heard Killing Gun through as good
and I haven't seen it, but still like, well from what we've seen,
yes, the last Yeah, yeah, this is probably the best thing
he's done with ten twenty years. Yeah, it's and you know, like
he's he's still got it. He's not like the super charismatic. Yeah,
ripped action star like he was in the eighties and nineties, but like he
still can lead a project and be entertaining and funny and you know, just
be fucking Arnold. So I'm enjoying that. It makes me very happy that
this show is not a complete disaster. Some people might disagree, but you
know what, I have a podcast about Arnold stuff, and uh, I'm
watching this and I'm not like getting mad like I do with some of the
other ship that he's in, or just being like like, I'm enjoying it.
So you know what, fuck off critics you can. Oh, I
thought he was going to say my name, my balls. Well yeah,
like, uh with what you were saying. I can't remember what it was,
but I had a point. Oh sorry, yes, I know what
it was. It's you said like he was trying to like he was doing
the same thing that he used to do, but he updated I wouldn't say
updated it. But he's playing he's not trying to play the same type of
role that he was in the early nineties when he was younger. He realizes
that he's older now, which I know here he did with Terminator on Lot,
so he's okay with the aging thing, which is nice, like he's
not trying to still play the same like consummate good guy like you knows everything
and great all the time. We'll never fus he still is in this,
but like he's he's aged with it to where it's like it's still making fun
of his age with it, like he's I think he's he's doing all this
quite gracefully. And yes, he knows when to make fun of himself.
He knows, Yeah, it's he knows what is funny about him being an
old guy in an action thing. Yes, thank you. Yeah, And
I think to add on to your point, there we go, that's a
smaller word I can. Like he's especially in like his prime, you know,
his character was like always right. Yes, you're like even if stuff
didn't work out, which is always like you know, the indact or whatever,
like he was always right and righteous and like doing what the audience like
we wanted him to do. You know, we're like, yeah, he's
doing he's doing the right thing. And then this he's you know, he's
kind of not like obviously stopping like terrorists and you know, nuclear bombs and
shit is right, but you know, like when it comes to the fan,
like you know, spying on well, I guess, and he did
that in True Life too. That was bad. Yeah, but they they
do establish in the first episode, like like, yes, he tried to
help Borrow after he killed his dad, but he also created one of the
most dangerous terrorists on the planet by doing so, like he paid for all
his schooling and shit, and like gave him an origin story basically yeah,
and so it's like, yeah, that shit comes back to haunt you sometimes.
And he's not always right with Emma either, like he he has to
like every other episode he has to admit, like, yeah, I was
wrong about that. So this showed me kind of made me wish that I
was close to James Cameron, so I get his thoughts on it. But
basically because this is basically like a True Lives remake without being a remake,
like not a remake, but like a soft sequel. Yeah, mostly because
we've kind of already seen how protective he is about his IP, even though
he pretends not to be so, Like, I'm curious his thoughts on this
just because he is, so I wonder how protective he is of True Lives,
Like, do you know I don't I feel like he's like that with
anything he does. I totally agree, except the only maybe aliens. The
only thing reason I don't feel like he's that protected for true lies because that's
already kind of a spy parody. Yeah, it's a it's a well done
spy parody, but I don't think he it does not reak to me of
like a super original idea, And so yeah, I don't. I don't
know how you know, protective he is over that the basic idea of a
spy parody this show Fubar is to true lies or true lies is the raw
deal? He just took that that idea raw deal undercover? Oh yeah,
Arnold or some alphabet. I guess he was just in the police or whatever
undercover. I think he wouldn't be except for it's really close, Like it
is super close. I totally get. But I think the only reason for
like I think he might not be I don't know that. Like I'm I'm
assuming the guy also can't keep his mouth shut, so I'm assuming eventually we're
gonna hear what he thinks about the show. Also, I'm guessing, I
don't know. I assume Arnold is like, oh, he's I know,
they're they're cool. Yeah, right, they are close. Like, so
I assume Arnold would have at least mentioned it to him, and like,
yeah, he probably was. He probably wasn't super pissed about it. No,
he probably pulled the same thing to a terminator. Yeah, go ahead,
do what you want to do, like yeah, yeah, like until
he sees it and he's like, what the fuck is this? Like me
with Genesis to where he's like he's like, no, Like I when I
when I meant go for it, I meant like, do it the way
that I want to do it. I didn't I want to do it,
but I meant to do it the way I want to do it. But
anyway, so just say what you mean, James Cameron. No, I
mean, we might hear from him once he like swims his way up out
of his giant pile of money he has screws my duck, Like, he
gets lost in that ship pretty fast. So yeah, it takes a while
to swim back up. There's no way that someone's not gonna eventually ask him
about that. But so I'm curious to hear what he thinks about it.
But also my biggest problem with to show that like this far is that pretty
much everything is explained through dialogue instead of shown. Yeah, like there's a
big there's a big lot of dialogue and a lot of it exposition, the
biggest example probably being that barstying with Emma's attempt to seduce the dude, Like
you pretty much have the team in your ear pretty much explaining what's going on,
as well as Alden reminding Emma, like which I kind of mentioned before,
that she has to be invited back to the guy's place after and ask
her asking why she has to for some like like I said, this would
have been better if she was a new agent that would explain that. That
would make sense for all the like explanation, explanation, explanation for all the
stuff that's going on. But that's pretty much only problem otherwise. I really
like, I'm enjoying the show a lot. Like I It's it's super fun.
It's the cliffhanger thing is also fun because you're like, oh, crap,
now I gotta watch that next episode. It's not like it's not like
a crap, I gotta watch the next episode, Like you're like a crap.
I wanted to go to bed. I gotta watch the next episode,
so and and yeah, it's not like loss, where it's like Cliffanger Loss
and then like three episodes later they finally get to it, yes, or
just you have to wait another fucking week if it's you know, yeah,
this shit all came out at once. So yeah, that's that's nice.
But I'm actually really enjoying the episode. I like all the characters so far,
and I actually noticed anything that I was like, not even not liking.
It's just like stuff that I noticed that's writing, stuff that could have
been fixed changed a little bit, which is the second time watching it,
and it's just like little like nitpicky things with like I mentioned, like the
very character and like making so many references and stuff, which I get,
Yes, I get it, he's a nerd. The it's all again trope
stuff to where it's like the Tina character which I didn't even know her name,
and a SA girl which I didn't know her name, and just her
quiet like it's again just that stuff towards like little fixes. But also it
doesn't really matter. It's fine. So I'm actually enjoying the show for now.
Chris, how do you enjoying the show so I'm just like up Top.
I definitely got some biases against this show. I am a bigger fan
of movies than TV. I don't do well with TV. It it always
feels overly drawn out to me, or pretty much always except for like the
very best TV shows? Uh on what You've never even seen the wires?
So how do you know what the very best TV shows are? Wait?
Wait? Wait wait? What would you say V shows plural? What would
you say you're as far as what are you talking about? As far as
like the best TV shows? I don't even know. Man, I watched
so little TV that I like, I'm talking about, like Night Court.
I prefer sitcoms because I just you know, you can watch and pick them
up and drop them exactly. I can. I can just tune in or
out whenever I want to. It's you know, I watch a lot of
animation. You know, it's it's kids shows technically, but like well written
kids shows like Avatar, Airvender, Yeah, and stuff like that, Simpsons
obviously, but stuff like that. I know that there are better shows out
there, that there are good dramas out there. I just am not hour
long dramas are hard for me to sit through. A lot of the time.
Okay, just it's just a preference thing. It's not even like it's
not like they're bad. Every time I sit down and watch an episode of
Breaking Bad, I get thoroughly sucked in and I know how good it is.
But like, I've never sat down and watched the whole show. I
just I won't make it through. But anyway, the point is, I
know I have a bias going into the show. I don't prefer TV shows.
I also really hate the binge model of TV shows, where they expect
you to watch everything one right after the other. I think that binge TV
shows are manipulative. I think the cliffhanger thing that they do at the end
of every episode is manipulative. I think it's bullshit. I think the episode
should end basically five minutes later every episode. The beginning of every episode should
be the end of the last episode. They're doing that just to qual the
payoffs. Never yeah, the payoffs not that interesting. So like, so,
yeah, you're talking prequel a Ridge Trige and not like sequel trilogy and
the forest awakens, Yes, than a cliffhanger. It's not how Star Wars
works. J. J. Abrams. It's where Yeah, it's where Luke
throws the white super Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's where the second one
starts. The first one, she gets to the island, it's like,
well, she hands it to Oh, that's right. She just hands it
to him, or she tries to hand I don't even know if she hands
it to him. I think she just stands there. She just holds it
out and he turned around. He just turn and like the camera goes around
and it's like Star Wars. But anyway, I think the drop everything at
once and expect you to binge the entire thing. The way they structure things
when they do that makes actively makes shows worse. So it's there's a structural
problem that I have with the show anyway. But for the most part,
I'm pretty bored by the show. I think it's super paint by numbers,
and I feel like I'm calling a lot of the stuff that's gonna happen.
I really I hope to be surprised. I really do. I'm the same.
I'm the same way as far as the calling everything that's happening. But
I'm still enjoying it, Like it's still like it's yeah, yeah, parts
of it are fun. Other parts I find pretty boring. I don't find
like the scene on the train with the magnet vests, I don't find that
interesting. I just don't like shit. I've seen shit like that before,
and you're like, I've seen a better movie. This is why I watched
movies. I mean, yes, basically, but let's start off with the
things. I like. Good performances all around, Like every character. I
enjoy the performances even when I don't like the writing. All the performances are
really good. It makes me like the characters even when I don't think they're
particularly well written. Arnold getting to be funny again and like very consistently being
funny, I enjoy that. Yes, sorry, real quick, I just
realized, like, yeah, you're right there. Like the characters are interesting,
but they have there's no real like depth to any of the characters.
No, I don't, none of them. I wouldn't care except for Arnold's
characters yet exactly like and his wife and his daughter meet. I don't even
think Tally is that deep. It's the relationship with Arnold that makes her interesting.
That's it. Arnold Emma, that's pretty much the only really complex Like
thredtgmental characters in the show. But again, I'm not talking about the bad
stuff. I like the good performances of everybody. Arnold gets to be funny.
Like I said earlier, Arnold repeatedly pronouncing cut holding is cock holding.
He does it for like two episodes in a row. He does it like
eighteen times, and it's hilarious every time, and that alone has made the
show worth it for me. I do think that it's shot interestingly, Like,
not all of it. A lot of it is shot, you know,
pretty normally, but I think it's shot quite interestingly in certain parts.
If you look at the opening scene, there's a lot of really good shooting
in that, and some of the action stuff is pretty competent. It's not
like the most unique action in the world, but it is competently shot.
I know what's going on, and it's interesting some of the time. The
other two lines that I really the other two things I really fucking love is,
first of all, just the puppet scene. Puppet Arnold hitting himself right
after Emma was strangling the puppet is fucking that's that's maybe my favorite thing in
this entire fu. Yeah. Yeah, she is strangling the puppet and then
she starts making him hit himself in the head and it's really fucking funny.
I don't know why. And then the last line my one of my favorite
lines, just because of the way Arnold says it is your skinny Maldus's body
will squeeze through it like a kookie dough. Barry was afraid of jumping down
the tube into the prison, and he goes, why do I have to
go instead of you? Why can't you go? And he's like, because
your skinny maldeus body will squeezed through it like a cookie dough. I love
it. The things I don't like. Everyone is way too quippi. There's
no straight man in this show. There's there's just no straight man in the
show. If you count Dot the head of the CIA, as the straight
man, you're wrong because she's barely in any scenes, like she's in the
missing briefing scenes and that I'm gonna say, you're wrong because she's a woman.
Okay. It's got mediocre writing, like not terrible writing, but it's
just mediocre. It's just like fine, average basic writing. It feels like
they wrote the script and then had like it. It kind of feels like
which I'm I'm kind of okay because I'm digging the jokes, but it feels
more like a comedy. But it feels like they had fortune, like Fortune
Finster and somebody else go in there and punch it up, definitely with jokes,
jokes, punch the shit out of it because they were like, I
think somebody was handed the script and was like, oh, this is not
interesting enough. Let's let's just throw jokes in there. Yeah the time,
which I'm enjoying. So I like that part of it. But yes,
I get it, Yes it is. It is very Quippi. But yeah,
that's what I was telling Laura. I was like, it's a comedy
action. It's like a comedy and I'm like, no, no, it's
a comedy action yeah, which is which is fine. I yeah, I
am not a fan of like the procedural structure. It got old to me
after like the second episode. It's like where they keep going back to the
briefing ring exactly. It's every episode they come back from the mission. Yeah,
they spend a little time character with character stuff, they go do a
mission briefing, they spend a little more time with the characters, then they
go to a different country to do the action. Stuff. It ends on
a cliffhanger. Yeah, yeah, it gets very old to me very fast.
It's weird because it's like, uh, it's kind of mixed up a
little bit to where it's not exactly like procedural it to where it starts off
like resetting. It's because it starts off on the cliffhanger. You get a
little bit of the cliffhanger, and then it goes into the procedural part,
like maybe like fifteen minutes into the episode, you go, it resets.
Yeah, so yeah, you're right, it resets and it goes back to
Yeah. Yeah, it's just but it's it's still falling like a storyline,
but it's still like resetting every time exactly. I understand that procedurals have their
place, but they are not telling a procedural type story. They are trying
to tell a bigger, overarching story, the kind of story you would tell
in a movie. Yeah, they're not doing CSI. They're doing one plot
line. They're doing father and daughter fight while trying to stop a terrorist.
That's a log line for a movie. That's not a fucking procedural TV show.
And it gets fucking old, And that's I mean that's pretty much it.
Most of what most of my problem is the writing. And yeah,
I hope it surprises me. It's not that I'm completely not enjoying the show,
but I think I'm enjoying it a lot less than you guys are.
Okay, well, that's just like your opinion. That's true. It is
entirely preference. It's not that this is not a fun show. I'm sure
it's fine, and if you like TV, you'll probably enjoy this quite a
bit. And still now I just want to question you on the TV shows
you've seen all the way through and haven't like very few, extremely few.
Actually, I do agree with your with I don't like that this was dropped
all at once because it yeah, I wouldn't say yeah, it takes away
from watching part The best thing about watching Lost, like Erica watched it different
than I did watching Lost, the best thing about it was watching from week
tweek because you're like, what the fuck and then you have a whole to
think about it, and then you have like That's why I really really really
liked WandaVision because it was the same exact way. That is the only reason
that Disney Plus shows can keep my attention is because I have a week between
each episode to like, I will think about it for a day or two.
I can go do other stuff and I'm not just bombarded with it completely,
and then I come back to it and I'm excited to watch it again.
Yes, it's like you know so, and they're structured better. They
are still cliffhangers, but they are not the same kind of cliffhangers. You're
getting them the show and it is. It's it's just better for me.
I think that's the problem that I had with the Hawkeye show. Was it
ended like this show so if the first time, the first time I watched
it, I was like, Okay, I don't really care about watching the
next episode. I think if the show is week tweek, I would have
been like, it's okay to wait, Like okay, well whatever, Like
I we wait an extra week. I can watch two episodes at once.
It wasn't a show like like how WandaVision was. I'm trying to think of
what else was like that. I think low Key was kind of like that,
or I'm trying to there's not really any week tweek shows anymore. No
like WandaVision definitely did it the best. I like, well, I say
this, but I still haven't watched the newest episode of the or the newest
season of Mandalorian. I mean I did that for the first two seasons of
Mandalorian, where I was watching it every single week and I was excited for
it. There's another show that we were watching, Oh the only Murderson Building
with only murders in the building. Was like, is like that, that's
a good show. Yes, it is a good show. And that's week
tweak two. And that's another one, like shit, especially because it's only
half hour, but like it's another show to where you're like, oh,
man, I gotta watch that next episode. And it is weekly, so
that's another one that's good. That's good like that, But like, I
don't think that you're right, Like, I don't think that this show would
have been like that if it was week to week, just because I would
have been like, oh, that's well, she's fucked, but she's gonna
get out of it. Yes, you are. The way that they end
the show with the cliffhangers, it like, especially with that honeypot cliffhanger to
where it ends, like to where she's she's got the gun aimed at her.
I'm like, dude, like, you know, she's gonna get out
of it right away, exactly. You think that I think that our main
character is gonna die in the middle of the fucking season. Yes, you
think that. I think that that's how this show is going to go.
Just yes, just play the scene out. Structure is different, but yeah,
that's anyway what I don't like about it anyway. Okay, thank you
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