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Good to see you, 16 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:29.040 my friend. What is up, man, How are you good? 17 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:34.079 Good dude, Just when you think you figured out the secret space program, 18 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:38.079 brou like, something else pops up and it's like, wow, I'm mind 19 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:45.599 blower. And it was interesting because I seen this documentary pop up on Netflix 20 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:49.959 and I was like, it's called here's a picture of it, the program 21 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:56.920 cons Cults and kidnapping. This this is primarily what we're going to be discussing 22 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:02.519 this evening. Is this Netflix documentary series that came out just a little over 23 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:06.640 a week ago. And I saw it on there and I was like, 24 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.840 Okay, well, Netflix has been doing some really interesting stuff as of recent 25 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:16.520 They did the Royal Alien Profit documentary, which I covered in UFO Doomsday Colts 26 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:21.919 Part two or three, I believe, and I was like, they've been 27 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.919 doing a lot of stuff with colts here recently. So I started watching this 28 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:31.039 documentary and I'm like, holy crap. I actually couldn't believe that it was 29 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:35.039 on Netflix. And they've been doing a lot of really good stuff. They 30 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.800 just came out with another one called American Conspiracy The Octopus Murders, which is 31 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.879 a whole other huge rabbit hole to go down. But as soon as I 32 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:50.120 got done watching this documentary. It's a three part series, three episode series, 33 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:55.520 and I contacted, like, I sent everyone that I possibly could think 34 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:00.759 of, like to watch this documentary. And I messed you and I was 35 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:04.080 like, dude, you got to watch this documentary. It makes so much 36 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.039 more sense now, and you were like, I just watched it. I 37 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.800 was like, Wow, what a synchronicity there. So I guess give us 38 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:17.199 your thoughts without giving too much of the plot away, because we're going to 39 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:23.560 get into it as we're going along here tonight. Your initial thoughts on this 40 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:30.199 documentary, Well, my initial thoughts were actually just a pure annoyance because I 41 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:35.080 kept seeing that picture getting shared all over the place with some kind of commentary 42 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.719 attached to it that I didn't think was appropriate for what I knew the series 43 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.240 was going to be about, and so I was a little bit annoyed right 44 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.280 from the beginning. I almost wasn't going to watch it, but then I 45 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:46.960 decided to watch it because I was so annoyed. And I have mixed feelings 46 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.840 after having watched it, but I'm glad that it's out there. For sure. 47 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.639 I've been saying for a long time with related to these programs that some 48 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:59.719 of them get confused with WASP programs, and everyone kept pointing me back to 49 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.960 this space program being like, yeah, lost programs. I was like, 50 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:10.319 no, not those programs, but these programs and the behavioral behavioral modification programs 51 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:16.079 for the troubled teen industry that popped up mid to late nineties ran really hard 52 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:21.079 into the early two thousands and still run to this day. So for that 53 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:25.360 reason, I'm very glad that this got made, because that's what they're discussing. 54 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.959 Yeah, And as soon as I from the first episode, they talk 55 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:38.839 about how their parents basically pay this company, this behavioral modification company that runs 56 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:46.120 these facilities. Parents pay these companies' money to come in and abduct their children 57 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:53.120 in the middle of the night. Some of them were tied up and they'll 58 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:58.079 wake up in like three in the morning and with two gentlemen standing over them 59 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:01.160 and tell them that they need to come with them, and then they get 60 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:05.920 into a blacked out suv. Then they go to one of these facilities. 61 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:13.480 They don't know what's going on. They have a majority of them just was 62 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:18.040 not told about this process and what was going to happen to them. And 63 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:25.720 I'm like, that sounds very similar to what a lot of these secret space 64 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:30.000 program super Soldier people talk about being abducted in the middle of an a lindful 65 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.920 of not knowing where they're going, and they go to some facility. I'm 66 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:39.319 like, well, the trauma of that, and we've spoken about trauma several 67 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:44.879 times before, and how our brains can you know, create something based on 68 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:50.600 trauma that didn't actually really happen. So I know that you've spoken a little 69 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:57.920 bit. You've made comments about behavioral modification groups. I think even on the 70 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:01.079 show. I'd have to go back and listen to some of our past episodes, 71 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:05.240 but you've spoken kind of fluently fluently about it, just like, yeah, 72 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:12.079 some of these programs are like just behavioral modification programs. So what is 73 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.360 that initial because that's the first thing that they really talk about. In Paris, 74 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.319 Hilton had this exact same thing happened to her as well, and she 75 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:26.759 was taken to a facility in New Mexico Provo Provlo or something like that. 76 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:32.839 It starts with what's it called. I think it's Provo Island, yea provo 77 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:39.319 provo something like that, And I think that it's in New Mexico. I 78 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:46.040 believe either in New Mexico or Arizona. But this has happened to it seems 79 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:53.759 like a lot of people. And this documentary mostly focuses on upstate New York 80 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:59.920 at this facility called Ivory Ridge. So what do you think about this, 81 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:06.800 because it's obviously a legal to do that, Like you can't pay a company 82 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:12.519 to come and kidnap your child, like, and they plainly say that they're 83 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:16.360 kidnapping people, especially in this other documentary that you told me about to watch. 84 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:26.000 I want to bring this right here at Hell Camp, which is another 85 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:32.560 in Netflix original documentary, Like the wife of the guy that ran this camp 86 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:38.800 that was in Utah straight up said that they were kidnapping and abducting children. 87 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:46.519 Yeah, it's human trafficking, it's kidnapping, it's child abuse. It's all 88 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:48.639 over the place, and it still happens. It has been happening, like 89 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:54.199 I said, since mid indies, and yeah, the EMA is usually the 90 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:58.360 same. The thing that I wanted to point out before I forget is that 91 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.439 we aren't talking about teens who are like heavily troubled, like the even the 92 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.839 girl who made the program documentary, I think she said what they caught her 93 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.439 with a MIC's hardly emanade. Right, like, it was a very minimum 94 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.000 thing. It's not like she had an ongoing history of violence so or malajusted 95 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:18.079 behavior in any sort of way. It was just parents being like, I 96 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.439 don't want to deal with my kids. Essentially before they had the potent version 97 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.800 of the Internet to take over that parental role. This was just a different 98 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.879 version of that. And the significant part of it is that they went after 99 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.399 the parents, and the documentary did a good job of pointing that out as 100 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:39.639 well, that they would induct the parents into a what is essentially a cult 101 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.399 and convince them that they need to do this, and then yeah, all 102 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:48.399 of the cult like behavior plays out before that, but before we kind of 103 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.600 get into it. The reason why I was kind of annoyed is just the 104 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.080 name the program, which obviously that's no fault of the lady who made this. 105 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:56.679 She did a great job with documentary. I'm glad she made it, 106 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.799 and she's not in on it. She just called it the program because that 107 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.240 makes sense because they repeat those words the program, the program. The program 108 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.159 could have very easily been called the academy, could have been called the Academies 109 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:15.240 or a bunch of other things. But I guess it's the New age community 110 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.600 or the alternative community taking it as meaning the programs that we've been talking about 111 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:22.200 for all of this time, right, So just run back through that. 112 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:28.000 You know what people call the illuminaudi. It's made up of cults, projects 113 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.320 and programs, and they take the cults in the programs and they make projects 114 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:35.039 out of them, which is all that you hear like Project Stargate, mk 115 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.720 Ultra, all of that type of stuff is what they've figured out by human 116 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:45.159 testing in secret, very illegally cults, mixing the two together and bringing out 117 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.720 stuff like this, And what we get to hear about is the project level 118 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:54.360 of all of this stuff. So mk Ultra had stages to it that you 119 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.480 know, they realized they wanted to roll it out on the public, and 120 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.480 this was one of those stages. Is these programs that they were running not 121 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:07.360 only teams through through this method, but it also found its way into universities 122 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:13.960 and like HR or HR programs through different corporations and a lot of different things 123 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.159 ended up being molded after this, which is if you watch this, you're 124 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.440 going to hear a lot of parallels between this and things like alcoholics anonymous or 125 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.879 narcotics anonymous, like all of these programs, right, So that's where my 126 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:28.879 annoyance came from. But overall, they show you the model of how this 127 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.120 all works, and they do show what I've been saying about, how they've 128 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:39.799 been taking what they learned through the underground experimentation mk ultra and then putting that 129 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:45.320 into a public sector so that we normalized it and from there once the technology 130 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.039 was available. Now they just do it to the public on a regular basis. 131 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:52.440 But when you listen to the program that they run these kids through, 132 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.159 you're really going to hear the echoes of that. Yeah, And it seems 133 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:03.000 like especially the school in upstate New York called Ivy Ridge that I believe was 134 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:09.519 shut down in two thousand and eight, it was an mk ultra school. 135 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.960 That's what all the video and the archival footage that they show in the documentary. 136 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:22.000 The program cons cults and kidnapping is standard mk ultra programming, like repeating 137 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:26.639 phrases over again. There was that one those two girls that were re enacting 138 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:28.519 the thing like hands up, hands over, hands the side, hands together, 139 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.919 that whole thing. That's that's psychic driving. And in the hell Camp 140 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.600 documentary that you had me watch, which was like the precursor to a lot 141 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:45.480 of these programs. They talk about that that's what they were doing. They 142 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:52.679 were deprogramming these kids then to put in another program, which is exactly what 143 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.679 the MK Ultra programs were doing as well. And the first one, the 144 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.440 original one, that Hell Camp one, was done through straight up trauma. 145 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.639 They were just marching these kids through the desert with nothing right. And then 146 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.159 each step it I don't know how much you watched. I don't want to 147 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.919 give it away or make too many spoilers, but each step throughout the journey, 148 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:15.799 they presented them something which seemed like it was making the journey easier, 149 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:20.120 but was actually technically making the journey harder, and the kids weren't noticing that 150 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.720 because it was presented as something that was benefiting them. It's amazing to see. 151 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:31.360 Yeah, the Hell Camp one was kind of like a PG version of 152 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:37.519 the Newest documentary and kind of tried to glorify in a way the runner of 153 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:45.080 the Utah Wilderness Behavioral Modification program, where they would just have kids hiking through 154 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.919 the mountains of Utah for like sixty days, sixty seventy days. But it's 155 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:56.759 the same exact premise as what they're talking about in the program conscults and kidnapping, 156 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.320 is that they were also abducted, like the kids were abducted within the 157 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:07.559 Ivy Ridge programs, in the programs in Arizona and possibly some in New Mexico. 158 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.399 Hell Camp has that kind of anti woke sling to it, like conservative 159 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.039 right sling to it, where they're like kind of expressing it in away, 160 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.559 like kids need this, and how dare they like like demonize this man who 161 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.159 presented this. But you can the idea is that you see the program within 162 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.960 it. It's the same stuff we've all been talking about. And you know, 163 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.039 the unfortunate reality is there's a lot of people within the audience of the 164 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.919 more extreme Secret Space program Super Soldier people who are talking about these and calling 165 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:46.320 them programs or have memories of these. They talk in the Hell Camp one 166 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.559 about the hallucinations people would have and how they would have their like come to 167 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.879 Jesus moments while they're out there mountain in the desert, and same with the 168 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.480 other one, and then also kind of how it left them afterwards. They 169 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:03.080 were all very vulnerable, and it's like with most cults, you end up 170 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.120 finding other cults just after you get out of the first one, right, 171 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.039 you kind of jump out of one into another in a lot of cases, 172 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:13.480 And so that was shown, and yeah, a lot of very interesting parallels 173 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.720 between things we've been talking about over the last couple of years, I guess 174 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:24.759 now, and what these kids went through. Yeah, and in this documentary, 175 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:31.639 it's they would also do the psyche driving in another way, not only 176 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.759 having the kids repeat phrases and like doing like actions and stuff, but they 177 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:41.320 would also use music. It was commented on that they would use Stanley Kubrick's 178 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:45.879 two thousand, the opening of two thousand and one of Space Odyssey, and 179 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.159 they would repeat it over and over and over and over again. And the 180 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.399 people that were a part of these this behavioral modification schools, like, yeah, 181 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:58.120 I can't even anytime that I hear that song, it's like I automatically 182 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:05.639 am like almost triggered back to being in this behavioral modification school which is just 183 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:11.759 another version of MK ultra and the torture aspect of what they were doing to 184 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:18.279 these children in these schools. And I think that the most alarming part about 185 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.720 it, Shane, is that, see, I had heard of these types 186 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:26.080 of schools before, but I didn't really know that it was something that was 187 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:30.039 still going on. I thought that it was kind of like over with it. 188 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.679 I heard of like camps and certain things like that, and I had 189 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:39.679 actually met a girl when I was out in California where I worked, and 190 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.000 she said that she was at one of these schools and she was abused and 191 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:48.720 that she was basically tortured and she has like a lot of traumas around and 192 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.080 whenever she was telling me, she was just like crying about it. I'm 193 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:56.200 like, holy crap. I didn't really bring that back to my mind until 194 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.720 I watched this documentary on Nuts and I'm like, holy crab. This girl 195 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.200 was, which I didn't doubt her at all, because she showed me some 196 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:11.279 pictures and they were all in like a uniform and it was like a military 197 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.440 type. It was like dress blues, like they were in like dress blues 198 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.320 like the Navy would wear. And I was just like, holy crap, 199 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:23.279 this is really a thing. And You're totally right the occult and ritualistic aspect 200 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:30.159 of this, because this documentary really shows that the parents were being just as 201 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.960 brainwashed as the kids were being, Like they had these parents coming in like 202 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.159 what did they say, like once a month or once every week or something 203 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.679 like that, and doing these weird rituals. They would have them cross dressing. 204 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.600 They'd have the men dressing up as women and the women dressing up as 205 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:48.240 men. They would all stand in circles and do like weird meditations and all. 206 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.679 I'm like, this is wild. Why I said it was a project 207 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:57.320 which was a combination of programs and cults. The cults were there to hold 208 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.399 the parents. And you see, I want don't spoil it for the people 209 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:03.519 are going to watch it, but you'll see the way that they controlled the 210 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:07.720 communication between everybody as well, how they kept their secrets and all of that 211 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:11.519 stuff. And there's even the comment about how eventually with technology they couldn't do 212 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:12.960 that anymore and that led to a downfall of a lot of these schools. 213 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:17.160 But anyways, you know, this is what's going on, is they have 214 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:22.240 the parents indoctrinated and then the kids are indoctrinated through force, and that combination 215 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:26.720 of the two of them. You know, we're hearing from kids in which 216 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.920 the program didn't take as well, which you have to consider, right, 217 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.680 how about all of the ones that it turned out that did take. That's 218 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:38.720 something that we need to get really heavily considered too, because that's you know, 219 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.920 I already mentioned like wokeness, we've were like that mentality out in the 220 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:45.720 public. That's where it came from as well, was they were programming it 221 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.480 through that people would then go out and then live their lives, have babies 222 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:53.440 with people who are probably in those type of programs too. By making a 223 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:57.480 new generation of people who were, it's almost like step forward wiving them in 224 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:03.640 a way that and that's the side that didn't take And so a lot of 225 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.680 different layers to what's going on there, and that was the part that I 226 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:11.599 really liked that she did her best to go down as many rabbit holes that 227 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.079 it led to as she could, but she also made it very clear that 228 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.160 there was a lot of stuff she just couldn't investigate because it was too much, 229 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:21.960 and she would come to walls where they wouldn't let her investigate anymore. 230 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:25.920 And then I'm sure that Netflix also probably threw some shit out on her as 231 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.559 well. So you know, I pointed out the one that was pretty obvious 232 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.519 that's hinted too, but never actually got to with the Clintons in there, 233 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.920 right, And then there's other ones like that like even the fact that they 234 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.880 wouldn't let her come into Canada, which was telling because I've, like I've 235 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.519 been saying, there's a lot more activity up here than but we have a 236 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:48.640 communist liked control up here. Sorry, Justin Trudeau is a lovely man and 237 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.160 he's exactly the leader we need. But but you know, it's been a 238 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.319 lot easier to control information in our country than it ever was in the stage 239 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.319 just to begin with. And quite obviously they are still getting away with doing 240 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.279 this in the States. But yeah, that's that's what it is. Well, 241 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.039 that's all a lot of the MK Ultra programs. That's where they went 242 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:11.640 as well. They went to Canada after they were basically shut down in the 243 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:18.519 United States. No Boltrisa. Sometimes they reward you for compliance, especially taking 244 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.279 medication, and wonder if that's in the dock as well. Well. Paras 245 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:27.920 Sultan talks about how they were forcing her to take medication and then she started 246 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.039 not taking it, and then they found it, and then she got into 247 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:37.519 she got put in isolation. And that's another really interesting thing about this. 248 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:42.839 That's how they would they would punish these kids that didn't comply with the program, 249 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:48.519 right, they would put them in like isolation in these little tiny rooms 250 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:53.640 for days, and sometimes we make the drugs. After for making them the 251 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.680 drugs exactly, they would drug them up and then they would lock them away 252 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:00.480 like that and the only other thing that I got was just more drugs. 253 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.680 And so, yeah, hallucinating is an interesting thing. We always think about 254 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.880 it as you know, conjuring images in front of ourselves, but a lot 255 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:11.440 of it just has to do with what we fill in our memory with after 256 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:17.119 the fact. You hear that when you hear people talk about AI is hallucinating, 257 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:21.559 because what an AI hallucinating is is what it doesn't have the information, 258 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:26.319 so it just makes it up. That's an AI hallucinating, and we hallucinate 259 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:33.119 in the same way. Yeah, it's a it's so wild the tortuous conditions 260 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:37.319 that these kids were in. And that's one of the things that she was 261 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.480 like, well, once I got out of this this Ivy Ridge school in 262 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.799 New York, and then I couldn't process it, she said, she didn't 263 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:49.960 process it for like four or five years. She just like kept herself busy 264 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.839 doing all this other stuff. And if you notice, whenever she's trying to 265 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:59.200 talk to that one of the counselors from a school that's inside of that church 266 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:03.759 that they could get video inside. They just got audio. And he's like, 267 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:07.720 well, why didn't you come and do this sooner or whatever? And 268 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:10.240 she was like, well, we didn't have the proof then we didn't. 269 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:15.799 Because that's another part of another level of all this is that their parents didn't 270 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:21.839 believe them the things that they were telling them that they went through. And 271 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.680 according to the documentary, a lot of the parents still don't believe the children 272 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:34.319 and the abuse and the mind control type scenarios that they were put into in 273 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:41.559 these schools. And that also rolls into the Secret Space program people and the 274 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:48.319 Super Soldier people as well, because I guarantee if you were to ask their 275 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:55.200 parents, do you remember Johnny being gone for twenty years and then being sent 276 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:59.880 back and twenty years later as a little kid, you know they're gonna say, 277 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:03.559 no, that never happened, just like what they're seeing here, that 278 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:11.599 this torture in these the mind control operations and the way that they went about 279 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:14.480 treating these kids in these programs. Their parents are saying, oh, no, 280 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:18.359 this didn't happen either. Yeah, And then this again, like the 281 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.559 with the layers, another layers, like she was only able to do it 282 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:26.039 through academies, but we also had military versions of this, right, we 283 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:32.319 had FBI versions of this, We had CIA versions of this. In Canada, 284 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:36.559 we have what we called reform schools, different things like that run from 285 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:40.119 the school through the churches, which we're all very similar to, you know, 286 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.279 what we called residential schools for First Nations people up here in Canada. 287 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:53.160 It's it's a pretty widespread series of programs that they're uncovering here with this documentary. 288 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:56.319 But you can tell, you know, she came up to those walls 289 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:00.440 where she could only talk about what was in front of her, which is 290 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:06.519 a good eye opening way to just dig your dip your toes into the entire 291 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:11.079 program and hopefully more people will investigate into it and look deeper and find other 292 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:17.319 connections in other times. But another interesting part was whenever she called I think 293 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:22.640 it was an adoption center. This was like in the second or third episode 294 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:30.599 where she not the adoption center but a behavioral health behavioral modification school for adopted 295 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:37.519 children, and the person on the phone told her that the state of California 296 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:45.319 funds and in sponsors this program. Yeah, another little thing is there's some 297 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:51.240 congressional hearings that get shown in there that have to do with the schools. 298 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:55.200 But the whole reason that ever got the light of day to begin with because 299 00:23:55.240 --> 00:24:00.119 they're already running this program, this probe on missing children. You remember the 300 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.559 milk cart and kids and things like that. They were already running this congressional 301 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:08.079 probe on missing children, which led them to opening those files about the academies. 302 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:14.200 But my point in bringing that up is this has been a feeder system 303 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:19.119 for every type of human trafficking you could possibly think of. What better way 304 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.119 than to, oh, sorry, your kid ran away, or you know, 305 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:27.039 maybe they died in there, but you can't see the body because remember 306 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.160 they mentioned things like that, how any time anyone will get sick, parents 307 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.559 weren't allowed to see them. Anytime anyone got harmed, parents weren't allowed to 308 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.559 see them. People dying took a long time to get their children's remains back 309 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:42.200 from these schools. Things loved that nature as well, So it does you 310 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:47.200 know, the other whole rabbit hole of it being a feeder to the type 311 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:51.720 of programs that I've been talking about all along as well. Right, it's 312 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.880 because one thing they mentioned in that which I know was something you wanted to 313 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:59.039 bring up, so I'll let you ranch on this a bit. Is how 314 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:06.880 it seemed like all of the kids that they were collecting were creatives. That's 315 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:11.640 right. It's commented on in this documentary that this is a way to get 316 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:14.759 rid of creative children. It's a way to get rid of artists, it's 317 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.119 a way to get rid of future thought leaders, is a way to get 318 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.759 rid of musicians. And I found that really interesting. There's things that's written 319 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:27.200 all over the walls in this now abandoned Ivy Ridge School that's like, this 320 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:33.759 is where children, this is the taker of children's souls. This is where 321 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:40.200 kids souls go to die. And that's, you know, very true. 322 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:47.279 I mean the way that they because it's a very traumatizing act one just being 323 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:52.559 abducted out of your home in the middle of the night and taken to one 324 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:59.319 of these facilities. And I believe that one of the first girls said that 325 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:02.680 she got there the maker and the creator of this documentary. Whenever she walked 326 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:04.279 in she was like, oh, well, let me go get my other 327 00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:07.599 bag out of the car, and they're like, no, you're never, 328 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:12.240 You're not allowed to leave. You never allowed to go outside again, you 329 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.880 know, and then all of the behavioral modification things that they were talking. 330 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:21.680 They weren't able to look out windows, they weren't able to talk to each 331 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:27.079 other. That was the really big one that I haven't really looked into any 332 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.559 of the other schools that were going on at that time to see if it 333 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:36.200 was this brutal as the one at Ivy Ridge. But the one at Ivy 334 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:40.839 Ridge no one was allowed to talk. None of the kids were allowed to 335 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:47.079 talk to each other or even look at each other. Like how devastating would 336 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:52.880 that be to a young kid's mind? Like kids are super talkative, kids 337 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.400 want to talk to each other and like touch each other and have that interaction 338 00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.839 with each other, and they weren't allowed to do that. They would get 339 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:06.279 like docked in. It was some kind of point system or whatever, or 340 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.359 some kind of merit system that you had to do everything right in order to 341 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:17.920 graduate up into next levels of this program. And apparently the third and fourth 342 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:25.640 level of the program was completely different than the first two levels or the way 343 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:32.960 that they explained it right, but that required you be fully accepting of everything 344 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.640 that they were telling you to do. So all of the mind control tactics, 345 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:41.599 all of the not talking, you know, doing everything they I mean, 346 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:47.839 there's so much footage in the documentary of like harassment and abuse. What 347 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:52.559 did they call it restraining? They called it restraining right where someone would do 348 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.640 one little thing and then they would just like sit on top of them, 349 00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.480 knock them to the ground and then like lay on them or sometimes it was 350 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:04.920 like three or for staff members like with their knees on these kids. And 351 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.759 I believe it was in that documentary as well where one got shut down. 352 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:17.279 I believe because a kid died because he was being restrained. I think it 353 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.240 was in that document It was like in a cafeteria or something in this kid 354 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:26.960 like through a cup or some food or something, and then they restrained him. 355 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.160 As a recent video, that's one that's open today, Like that was 356 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:37.279 something that just happened just before that documentary actually came out. But yeah, 357 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:42.599 the other part that is important is the staff at these places. And because 358 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:47.079 that's always a question right about you know, like who would do these type 359 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:48.319 of things, Well, they give you a look into the type of people 360 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.279 who would do these type of things and why as well with this documentary about 361 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.599 people like him just doing the job or they were already fucked up people. 362 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.200 Sorry for my miguage, they were already messed up people who you know, 363 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.000 saw a job posting and then got into this environment where like I'm allowed to 364 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:10.119 do this to people, sweet right, and with no condentials, no certifications 365 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:14.920 and none of it. They it's wild. And they tried to contact a 366 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.759 few of them, and none of them were remorseful. Well, I think 367 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.720 one of them were. I think the one lady that they met in the 368 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.359 in at a restaurant where they started filming and then they were asked to leave 369 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:32.440 the restaurant, I think she was remorseful, but a majority of them that 370 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:37.039 contacted them, they weren't remorseful at all, Like that one girl that was 371 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:42.640 a part of the documentary that because apparently they were faking drug tests in this 372 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.559 Ivy Ridge school and they were saying that these kids were heavily on drugs and 373 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.799 that they were going to die. And this one girl, her entire relationship 374 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:59.319 with her family got ruined because she wasn't doing any drugs, she wasn't drinking 375 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.400 or anything, but she went to the school and they faked a drug test 376 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.960 on her to light up all the drugs on the drug test, and then 377 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.119 this counselor was like calling her all these names and like harassing her and calling 378 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.680 her a crackhead and like a drug addict and all this, and that counselor 379 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.559 was telling her parents all this stuff, and this girl's like, I never 380 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.759 did any of this. And then she finally got the proof. She found 381 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.559 the drug test in the abandoned school in New York at Ivy Ridge, and 382 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:32.880 then went and put the drug test in the counselor's mailbox. And her biggest 383 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:34.880 trouble was the fact that she was like the poster girl for it all too. 384 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.599 She was the pretty young girl that they were taking all the pictures of 385 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.599 and one of the first with the ones like anytime they would have bring a 386 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.440 parent to the facility, they only had select kids that they would show to 387 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.640 the parents runs the ones that had completed to certain levels of the program and 388 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:53.359 even to that program pyramid structure. We've all heard that before, right, 389 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.960 Like, that's not new. We know exactly where they got that idea from, 390 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.640 but it worked exactly the same way. The only difference between that and 391 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:06.200 scientology is there's in a monetary value involved, where you know, if you 392 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.000 want to get your kid into level five, then you're going to have to 393 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.160 pay us more money, right, because they didn't need to do that. 394 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.039 They were already making a shit ton of sorry inviting my language again, a 395 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.119 ton of money by selling kids on the side, which is the you know, 396 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.559 the thing that she again hinted at, but also made it pretty clear 397 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:29.559 she wasn't allowed to talk about in the documentary. Yeah, and the way 398 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:34.759 that the parents were because whenever they were first brought into these programs, apparently 399 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:41.440 these behavioral modification schools told the parents that they're going to try and lie to 400 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.519 you, like, don't listen to anything that they're going to tell you about 401 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:52.640 the program because they're lying, which is a crazy, wild manipulation technique just 402 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:57.640 right out the gate. It puts a stop to anything that the child or 403 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.880 the kid says about the police. The parent automatically assumes that they're trying, 404 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.759 they're lying, and they're trying to manipulate their way out of the program. 405 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:12.799 I think one of the lines was actually, your children's feelings are manipulations for 406 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.559 you. Yeah. I was like, yeah, that sounds about right, 407 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:22.359 and yeah, that that obliviousness that the parents showed any of the parents that 408 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:29.480 did get put on camera there, you know, you saw both sides of 409 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:30.119 it. You saw the ones that were like, oh my god, I 410 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.440 can't believe that that happened. I'm so sorry, and then you see the 411 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.519 other ones that you know, still have the cult block in the place where 412 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.680 there they won't admit that it happened in their own brain. They might pretend 413 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:44.559 like they accept it for their daughter, their son. Whatever they're dealing is 414 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.160 a lot of females, and this so their daughter, but they don't actually 415 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.079 themselves accept that these things happened to her yet because of the cult programming in 416 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.119 them. And that's you know, for people like me, that's something you 417 00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.240 know that needs to be considered as they they had our parents in different ways 418 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.960 as well, where our parents didn't realize what was going on because they were 419 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.920 actually being told something else was going on, right, And if you trust 420 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.599 experts, you believe them. So if an expert is telling you this is 421 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.799 what's happening, this is the explanation for all of these things you're seeing, 422 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.480 then you're gonna go, Okay, I believe you. And that it was 423 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.200 also very well shown in that documentary and also the amount of money. You 424 00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.119 just mentioned the amount of money that some of these behavioral modification schools were getting 425 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:36.240 in Some of them were upwards of like seventy thousand dollars. Dude, like 426 00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:40.359 seventy thousand dollars in the early nineties. That's a lot of money that they're 427 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.599 paying out for these programs. So no wonder they don't want to believe their 428 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:51.799 child because one they've given a crap ton of money. Two, they don't 429 00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:57.119 want to be scanned and be like a fraud. Three they don't want to 430 00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:01.359 believe that their child was abused in one of these programs. And for they 431 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:06.039 don't want to look like a fool. And they don't want to have to 432 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:12.360 apologize for putting their kid into one of these schools, because that's a very 433 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:19.360 heinous act. Like when you watch this documentary, you're going to realize that 434 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:30.599 you would feel god awful as a parent watching the archival footage and the surveillance 435 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:37.039 footage from some of these behavioral modification schools. You're going to feel like shit 436 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:44.840 if you actually sent your kid to one of these schools. Like if one 437 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:46.400 of my parents ever sent me to one of these schools, I would probably 438 00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:52.360 never talk to them again. Ever, I feel like I'm done done with 439 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.199 you guys, in no way that I'm ever going to speak to you again. 440 00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:01.920 And that's kind of the process that the filmmaker of this documentary kind of 441 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.320 got into a little bit. She didn't speak to her nowin for like the 442 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:12.760 whole making of the documentary until the end, but he was pretty receptive to 443 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.159 what she discovered. But again, there's all this proof, and there's all 444 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:22.360 this evidence, and there's surveillance footage of children being abused and the programming that 445 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.400 happened in these behavioral modification schools, So like, unless you're completely blind, 446 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.199 it doesn't take a pair of glasses to see what was going on. But 447 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.079 again, they don't want to admit to that because then that one brings on 448 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.800 the guilt, brings on all. Well, I just freely gave all of 449 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.519 my money, thousands and thousands of dollars to one of these behavioral modification schools 450 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:53.519 where they're torturing my child. And it's actually a rare personality trait for people 451 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:58.360 to like freely accept when they're wrong. It's really difficult for us as human 452 00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.920 to do. We all saw that with the lollipops, right, like the 453 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.360 lollipops and that thing that went around over the last few years and how it's 454 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.039 all, you know, come to light now that it was all nonsense, 455 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.880 but nobody will believe it. It doesn't matter how much it gets put in 456 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.159 front of their face, because it means admitting how wrong they were and that 457 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:22.800 this identity that they've built was false because it was built on this false foundation. 458 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:27.440 And that's really really difficult for people to do. And this is just 459 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:31.639 another example where there's several examples within that documentary of people who did the same, 460 00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:37.000 whether it was the parents, the facilitators, the staff involved, even 461 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:44.440 some of the people involved. And yeah, very interesting that all of those 462 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:50.320 same dynamics have been playing out in the mainstream media over the last three to 463 00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:57.880 five years. Noble Truth. As an example for the audience, some staff 464 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.960 members are promised credits in specific fixed psych fields if they work at the program, 465 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.119 could be I mean that would make sense, right, Yeah, dangling 466 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:14.199 carrots, that's what I call those. The heenous nature that these staff members 467 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:19.880 had to do to these children, like what type of what type of brick? 468 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.920 Because you knew, you know, they weren't paying them good money, 469 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.599 so like what's the incentive that the only thing that I can think of is 470 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.400 that they wanted to do it, and then they liked to do it, 471 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.280 and they got some kind of they got the rocks off. I think it's 472 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:37.159 obviously they probably were playing them really good money. But there was no background 473 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.400 check, there was no resume check, there was no credentials needed. Like 474 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.559 they were giving people jobs that should be going to PhDs just off the street 475 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.199 because they answered a call, right, So that's I think that they probably 476 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:54.119 were paying them quite well for jobs that they should never have had to begin 477 00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:59.280 with. And that's a lot of it. Right, If you're totally comfortable 478 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.639 and you're like, I'm ever gonna find another job like this, that's hard 479 00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:07.679 to quit in and of itself. Right, Everyone looks over looks past stuff 480 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:12.320 every day at their jobs. But you know, the more they pay you, 481 00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.840 the more cushy that is, or the more aligned with that type of 482 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:20.559 treatment you are. That's what the one person said, is like I liked 483 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.320 doing this stuff anyways, you're gonna pay me to do it, right, 484 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:29.880 Like they were hiring bouncers who like beating up people to police the boy side 485 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:35.440 and be behavioral counselors for the voice side things like that. Yeah, it's 486 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:40.760 uh. That's the part that I think everyone always sells underestimates humans on, 487 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.599 is that there are people out there who enjoy doing these kind of things, 488 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:50.719 maybe because it's been done to them, maybe because they just like it, 489 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.519 But there are people who are more than happy to hear. Oh you let 490 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:57.199 You're gonna lock me up with a bunch of young boys and let me do 491 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.280 whatever I want to them. Sweet, you're gonna pay me to do that 492 00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:07.880 even better, and all I have to do is lie deal. Yeah, 493 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.760 I wish we could have got a little bit more information about the boy's side 494 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.000 of Ivy Ridge. There wasn't too much on there besides like archival footage of 495 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:24.400 some of the boys being restrained and like abused and put into these deprivation areas 496 00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:29.760 for punishment. Yeah, And they brought that up to how even between the 497 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:34.239 boys and the girl's side, there was missing disinformation to turn them against each 498 00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.039 other and make them not want to talk each other fear Like the girls basically 499 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.639 were afraid of the boys because of the things that they were hearing from all 500 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:46.320 of the staff. So that whole dynamic at every level of it, and 501 00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:50.440 apparently there was like a riot that was trying to go down, and they 502 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:52.679 were all trying to escape, but instead of escaping, they all went and 503 00:39:52.719 --> 00:40:00.519 eat food the cafeteria. I think a few of them did get out, 504 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.639 like three or four of them got out, but then they were caught and 505 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:09.079 captured later on. Because that's another part of this is like you put these 506 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:16.480 camps and these behavioral modification camps, just like the one in Utah, in 507 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:22.559 the middle of nowhere, so if anybody does happen to try and run away, 508 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.760 there's literally no place for them to go. Well, the best part 509 00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.079 was with that one. If they had gone straight across the river, they 510 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.039 ran into a Canadian version of exactly the same thing. So it was pretty 511 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:38.519 funny in that sense too. Yeah, and it is a Netflix documentary series, 512 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:46.840 The Program cons Cults and Kidnapping. And there is another one that she 513 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.440 told me about that we've kind of mentioned a little bit, which was Hell 514 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:58.280 Camp, which is another Netflix original. This one's a movie. The Program 515 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:02.559 cons Cults and Napping is a series as a three part series, but Hell 516 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:07.400 Camp is really the original or the origin of this, and it started in 517 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:14.360 the eighties, right, Yeah. Yeah, they call it the trouble troubled 518 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:22.159 teen industry and where they would abduct these kids and kidnap these kids and take 519 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:28.760 them into the mountains of Utah and like have them walk for miles and miles 520 00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:37.519 and miles and miles, and it eventually that program eventually got shut down because 521 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:45.920 someone had died during the hike and there was a big lawsuit, but the 522 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:52.039 guy that ran the program ended up winning the lawsuit wild And the reason why 523 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:58.119 it's significant is because you can see how something that didn't have the agenda behind 524 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.440 it was then very quickly rabbed a hold of and turned into something and used 525 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:05.559 by other people who did have that agenda behind it, right. And that's 526 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.920 again why they were trying to glorify that particular Stephen whatever his name is, 527 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:13.760 a gentleman, is because they're just trying to get across that, you know, 528 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.440 this guy didn't run the kind that everybody else went to run. This 529 00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:23.000 was his original idea, but the formulation of it, the program within it, 530 00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:27.079 is still the same. And again what they're trying to push through this 531 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.239 particular documentary is the opposite that you know, these days kids need this, 532 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:36.880 right, these days kids don't have discipline, and they don't have respect. 533 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:42.079 And if you go to the original program that this movie showed, really that's 534 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.400 what it was, and the abduction was still on the front of it, 535 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.559 but beyond that, it was really just taking these people out to help character 536 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:57.280 build. Just the extreme nature of it is what turns it into abuse, 537 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:02.519 right, and then used by all sorts of people, and it became a 538 00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:09.000 whole industry of them basically going to parents, you know, all your teens 539 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:14.280 being a teenager, Well, we have a solution. We'll take them, 540 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.760 give them to us, let us run some experiments on them and feed them 541 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.880 to some monsters, just to see what happens. Because what we know is 542 00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:27.559 the result of that is all going to become politicians one day, and facilitators 543 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:32.079 or administrators at universities one day, and cops and you know, all of 544 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:39.079 these different people who will then be easily controlled because of the program. Yeah, 545 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:45.320 and probably another reason why they kind of went easy on this Steve guy 546 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:52.159 that ran all these different the behavioral modification camps, and one was getting ready, 547 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:53.920 the one at the end was getting ready to actually be turned into a 548 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:59.519 facility. I believe it was in the in South America maybe or in the 549 00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:04.719 Congo or somewhere out in the forest, and it was different. It was 550 00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:07.800 Austria. Yeah, it was somewhere I don't know, somewhere down there, 551 00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:14.320 but it was getting ready to be turned into like a facility and h But 552 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.760 the guy had died. He died of cancer, I believe, colon cancer. 553 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.760 So he died like a few years before the making of this documentary. 554 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:28.960 But what's interesting though, is like they have all of his family members like 555 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:34.159 giving interviews in this documentary and they're talking about all the the heinous acts and 556 00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.199 all the things that he did, but they're still like, oh, he 557 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.280 was a good guy. He was just trying to help Like what do you 558 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.559 mean, what do you mean he was just trying to help me? And 559 00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.199 I understand that they're family members and you know, some of their kids, 560 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:52.960 but this guy sent his own kid to one of his own camps. That's 561 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.480 what I mean. He's given with this idea that like it was a good 562 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.599 thing that went too far kind of like you know, communism has just never 563 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:04.360 been done properly, one of those type of type of things. But yeah, 564 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.519 the origin of it is there. You can see how it gots like 565 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:13.880 bought up by other people. Modified AA and a essay all of these different 566 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:20.599 programs also spawning from this idea. In the program Netflix series, she does 567 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:24.679 go through the list of the stuff that the founders who, of the academies 568 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.599 where they all came from. I think there was a trifecta of them, 569 00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:31.679 as there three of them that you know, we're earlier versions of the same 570 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.320 thing that you know, ac cult as a cult as a cult as a 571 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.000 cult, and so eventually it became known that it was a cult and they 572 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:42.519 had to move on, rebrand it and come out again. Sounds a lot 573 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:46.039 like our community because that's what people have been doing since the beginning of time. 574 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:52.840 When you get into like Helena Bloff Blosky and the Theology Theological Society, 575 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.760 you'll notice that it's exactly that exact game. A cult is a cult as 576 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.599 a cult, and eventually cults get shown. All they do is come up 577 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.960 with a new name, probably moved to a dude, different town or a 578 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:10.639 different geographical location. Sometimes will even swap out the front person. But a 579 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.239 cult is a cult as a cult as a cult, and so eventually it's 580 00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:21.679 going to cult and that's exactly what we have here. The way that she 581 00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:28.239 explained this in the program cons Cults and Kidnapping just for people that are just 582 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.159 listening. And there's two different documentaries. The first one came out, I 583 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:36.199 believe in twenty nineteen, which was the one that I just pulled a picture 584 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:40.320 up of, which is called Hell Camp Teen Nightmare. And then this one 585 00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:45.039 that's on the screen right now, the program cons Cults and Kidnapping is the 586 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:51.519 newest one that just came out this month on March fifth. Now they're different 587 00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.599 in a bunch of different ways, not only the way that they're made, 588 00:46:53.599 --> 00:47:01.079 but the subject matter is basically the same, these teen behavioral health But this 589 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:07.599 guy that ran these camps in Utah and then spread out to South America and 590 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.000 went to all these different places trying to open up other because he had a 591 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.199 really bad name over the lawsuit that he had, he hadn't quite figured out 592 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:20.039 the process on how to actually get away with a lot of this stuff. 593 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.400 He didn't have permits for any of his things. He didn't have permits to 594 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:29.440 run any of these businesses. He didn't have credentials to run teen behavioral modification 595 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:36.000 programs, none of that. But this guy that ran this well was the 596 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:43.320 funder and the contributor to the main program that's talked about in this documentary that's 597 00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.519 up on the screen right now in New York. He had it all figured 598 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:53.400 out and he'll probably never get caught or ever get anything come to him because 599 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:59.199 he's set up all of these different shell corporations and all these different LLCs to 600 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:05.119 like I had anybody ever coming after him. The lady that directed and made 601 00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.400 the documentary was like, yeah, this is like a this is a nightmare 602 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:13.960 to go through and connect all these dots. She had like a CIA type 603 00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:19.599 of style corkboard up with all the lines and everything going for Etauther, which 604 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.360 I think was for the documentary, of course, but that doesn't you know. 605 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.440 She definitely did the research for sure, and she's like, listen, 606 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:34.159 this guy is he's almost untouchable because he has all these companies that are set 607 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:38.400 up by different names under different names. One company is owned by four or 608 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:43.039 five other companies. Those five companies are owned by ten to twenty other different 609 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.320 companies, and then they just go so on and so on down the line. 610 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:52.360 Which was interesting because toward the end of the documentary she I think it 611 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.679 was the brother of the guy that ran a lot of these programs. I 612 00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.440 think he was a brother the guy that started the WASP programs. I might 613 00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:07.480 be incorrector or not incorrect, but they they showed up at this this karaoke 614 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:14.679 bar and got to see him uh firsthand, which I thought was actually really 615 00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:21.079 cool. And they got up and sung that uh one day and I'm gonna 616 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:22.079 get you, you get you, And I was like, wow, that 617 00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:28.719 is a that is a covert way to do it. I thought it was 618 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:30.599 really clever. But I like, make sure with him, like kind of 619 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:37.800 dancing with them or whatever. Way to go. Lady, Yeah, she 620 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:43.840 killed it. It was a really well made documentary series. I'm gonna have 621 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:50.360 to watch rewatch it again and and really to wrap your head around the web 622 00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:55.599 that has been made from all this stuff. Now, what they were showing 623 00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.639 with that is the I call it the throwing people under the bus, So 624 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:05.480 you have all of these different people kind of linked to it so that eventually 625 00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.880 when you get caught, one person gets thrown under the bus and the rest 626 00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.159 get to move on. And it's like the same thing as in the Mafia 627 00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.639 one, like the fall Guy, right, we've heard it's there a Patsy. 628 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:20.320 The same idea depending on whether they're in on it or not. And 629 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:24.239 yeah, that's exactly what they've done, is they've got like, every time 630 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:28.599 they get caught, someone pays for it. But it's never the guy who 631 00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:32.880 actually did it, right, it's it's someone else who's just being paid more 632 00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:38.000 or less to be that person. And then they continue to operate until they 633 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:42.519 get caught again. And that's why they can't ever get it back to him, 634 00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.480 because he's got too many bodies to throw in the front of that bus 635 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.719 before it ever gets there. And you know, they do show in the 636 00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:54.039 documentary she kind of followed the money all the way as high as she could 637 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:58.559 get. She got to like the senate level, I believe, and that's 638 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.960 where they started shutting her down. But it's implied that there are people involved, 639 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.880 and they actually show a picture of one of the ladies very much involved 640 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.159 in a lot of these programs over time to a lot of where the money 641 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:17.360 that they're getting paid comes from. So, yes, my mind was blown 642 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:21.519 when I watched it. I was like, holy crap, I can't believe. 643 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.239 One, I can't believe that it happened at all, and two, 644 00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:29.559 I can't believe that it's still happening. It's wild, and they're right, 645 00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.480 it's a money it's gotten so out of hand, and it's brought in so 646 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.599 much money. And I believe that it was mentioned in one of the two 647 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:46.559 documentaries that they kind of not threaten the state or the town that they're in, 648 00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:50.239 but they kind of go to the government officials. And I was like, 649 00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.480 well, if this gets shut down, then you know, you're going 650 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:58.119 to lose all of this money. There's not going to be as much money 651 00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.840 flowing into your town or into your state because this program is supplying a lot 652 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:06.119 of your money and a lot of your funding. Well that was that Ivy 653 00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.400 Ridge there, Like that town wouldn't have been there without the school anymore. 654 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:14.679 Right, So yeah, and that's what they would do, is I guess 655 00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:16.840 what people didn't notice. It's not necessarily what they were doing. That's that's 656 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:21.159 the way that they operated, is they were, you know, someone very 657 00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.199 high up the food chain was making them happen. Who they think are in 658 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:27.880 charge of that are not in charge of that. They're just the people who 659 00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:32.119 run the organization that funnel launders that money for them in that forum, and 660 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:37.920 it goes up into into the government, up into people in positions and power 661 00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:43.280 of power in government. Yeah, that's right. It was Ivy Regi. 662 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:47.559 And when you look at it, Ivy Ridge now it's a disaster, it's 663 00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:51.639 a mess. It's the same thing as you'd see with like a fishing town 664 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.320 that no longer has fish there, or like an old oil town throughout the 665 00:52:54.360 --> 00:53:00.440 states, right coal mining towns. It's exactly the same thing. These schools 666 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.559 worked in exactly the same way. It's the same thing that like, you 667 00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.719 know, something like the UFC does. It's like one of the incentives to 668 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.000 get into the city is the fact that they're going to bring a bunch of 669 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.639 money, a bunch of tourism along with them. It's that same game, 670 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:20.320 just on a much smaller scale for an individual little town. And of course, 671 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:22.320 like you know, the local sheriff, the local nurses, the local 672 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:28.079 doctors, the local optometrists, the local shoemakers, all of these people would 673 00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.800 have no job if there is no town, they'd all have to relocate. 674 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.639 So anything that comes along that promises them that We've seen this in so many 675 00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:42.000 different ways all across the States, you know, throughout the all the main 676 00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.960 decades from the thirties to the end of the nineties. Well, now I 677 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:54.440 think it's time to heavily get into the relation between these programs, these behavioral 678 00:53:55.320 --> 00:54:05.280 modification programs that are being described within the documentaries the program cons Cults and Kidnapping, 679 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:12.280 and the documentary that came out before and how Camp teen Nightmare, and 680 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:20.199 the relation between that and what these secret space program people and these super Soldier 681 00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:27.960 people call the programs, because it's almost identical. You just take aliens and 682 00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:35.559 space and time travel and advanced mudbeds and like all that stuff out of the 683 00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:44.760 equation and you pretty much of verbatim, have this program that's being presented in 684 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:52.360 this documentary, the program CON's Cults and Kidnapping. It just further reinforces my 685 00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:57.559 number that, you know, if I'm being nice, of the speakers are 686 00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:05.360 making things up, and seventy percent of the audience believes their own made up 687 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:09.360 memories that come from something probably more like this, right. I've been pointing 688 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:14.440 this out for many years that like even the combination of WASP and WASP, 689 00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:19.079 which I just add to me, that's always been almost ironic that you guys 690 00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:24.320 called that that, because that is what it is. And anyways, at 691 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.440 the same time, these other programs do exist, and you can see how 692 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.480 this would be a very good way to identify people, right. But what 693 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:37.960 I was saying off the top is these came second. The programs that these 694 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.000 people are alluding to were first, and then these were kind of layered on 695 00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.480 top for a variety of different reasons. One that I've already pointed out to 696 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:49.480 start rolling this out into the public. The other one is as a cover 697 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.440 for what they were doing in the actual programs. And that was the part 698 00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.719 that was annoying me when it was like the program, the program, the 699 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.840 program, the program. When we've been saying the programs, the programs, 700 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:04.320 programs, the programs for all of these years. Now it's going to happen 701 00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:06.559 with a lot of people when they get new into this. They're going to 702 00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:08.519 hear me speak one day and I'm going to say programs, projects, cults, 703 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:12.800 and they're going to go, oh, programs like in that movie very 704 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.559 quickly. Right. So there's a slight bit of an annoyance there, But 705 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:22.559 well, I mean it's pretty dang similar though, And Robert you have which 706 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:28.280 I wouldn't fault anybody for saying that, because it's anybody this guy common sense 707 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.079 and critical thinking can see that it's almost identically the exact same thing, and 708 00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:36.280 they've just layered They've just made up a lot of different scenarios due to the 709 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:40.000 trauma that they faced during these behavioral modification schools and made it that they're special 710 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:45.119 and that space is involved, and that they're this the captain of a super 711 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:50.719 space program ship whenever they just went to one of these behavioral modification schools. 712 00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:54.159 Now, I'm not saying that everyone did. I think a very small percentage 713 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:59.440 of them did. But the basis of this documentary, in the school and 714 00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:05.440 the stories that are told there are the building blocks of the secret space programming, 715 00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:09.840 Super Soldier testimony and my lapse because of the military component, right because 716 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.840 the military was doing it too, and like that, That's always been one 717 00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:16.920 of the things that I've always kind of said, like they didn't have to 718 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:21.400 kidnap me or most of the people I knew in these programs, right, 719 00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:24.079 Like most of us were there, not necessarily in a willing sense, but 720 00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:29.039 definitely in a participation type sense. Not like they were taking us in the 721 00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:31.599 middle of the night and kidnapping us and hooting us and we didn't know where 722 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.440 we were going. In all of that stuff. There were things hidden from 723 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.039 us. There were a lot of lies, but we kind of knew what 724 00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:42.480 was going on, And you know, that's always been a major divergence, 725 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.639 and this explains it very clearly. Right. I've always known that in my 726 00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:51.400 heart of hearts, and it's part of the reason why I've put the percentage 727 00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.119 on it that I always have. But this is the first time that I 728 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:59.559 have a documentary where I can point to and say see. But just like 729 00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:04.360 with VASA has brought out with their Mars training and their Moon based training so 730 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:10.239 that they can go mine space asteroids. It's all been happening in underwater and 731 00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:15.920 in deserts and all these people really do believe that they're actually on the Moon, 732 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:21.360 in Mars, in space, but it's a simulation. And yeah, 733 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.000 so it's the same thing for me. It's just that it's you know, 734 00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:27.440 I've been speaking to it for a long time, and now I have a 735 00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.559 documentary where I can say, hey, go watch this, and does this 736 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:32.840 sound a little bit more akin to what you think happened to you? Then 737 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.360 you were sent to fight space aliens with some kind of space lazers or Mars 738 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.760 and then just brought back here and sent to school the next day, because 739 00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:45.599 that doesn't make much sense because but yeah, like, did you go away 740 00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:50.599 to one of these private schools in which a bunch of different traumatic experiences happened 741 00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:53.639 to you have involved a bunch of strangers, and you were, you know, 742 00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:58.400 in all of those different situations. Because guess what, there were very 743 00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:05.440 real programs operate in the broad daylight that we're doing exactly that. So the 744 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.239 military ones again with the my lap, because that's a lot of the abduction 745 00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:14.199 stories is bright lights in the middle of the night, people coming into their 746 00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:16.960 room, taking them away, bringing them back right, And so that's what 747 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:20.679 a lot of that was is they would take you away, they would threaten 748 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.639 you, tell you that if you didn't do everything your parents told you that 749 00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:25.199 you were going to have to go into the military, and then they would 750 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:30.239 bring you back and you know, forget about that, or be a traumatized 751 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:37.800 child. Make the behavioral modification live underneath that behavioral modification, and then someday 752 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.480 you're listening on to someone on the internet describe a scenario where the same thing 753 00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:45.800 happened to them, except for instead of just behavioral modification, they got to 754 00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:50.440 go to outer space and be a superhero. What are you going to choose? 755 00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:52.360 Right, You're obviously going to choose the one that results in you being 756 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:57.000 a superhero. So there's a lot of different ways in which people get themselves 757 00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.760 to that point, and so that's why I've always put the percentages on them. 758 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.280 This is just more kind of proof and the results of why I've done 759 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:12.400 that the basis, Yeah, exactly, you explained it perfectly that from the 760 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:20.400 very beginning of these programs. I'm sure that it's that maybe a few people, 761 01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:27.360 maybe one or two people that's actively talking about the Secret Space Program have 762 01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:32.519 been through one of these behavioral modification schools. Maybe it's a big maybe, 763 01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:39.639 but it's definitely someone has. Someone has been through one of these behavioral modification 764 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:46.079 schools. Now, it's a possibility that one of these Secret Space Program people 765 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:51.800 just heard another person talk about it and then made up their story on top 766 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:55.920 of hearing another person speak about it. That's a possibility too, right, 767 01:00:57.079 --> 01:00:59.639 Yeah, And that's just it, And that's what I was saying about. 768 01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:04.840 You know, the burrito then becomes really enticing because if you see someone on 769 01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.960 a stage talking about a program you were just to say, you know full 770 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:13.239 well that you were in Ivy Ridge Academy, specifically the very school from this 771 01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:16.360 documentary. But then you hear I'll pick someone that I actually like, Max 772 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.599 Spears, talking about his experiences. It's going to be so easy to do 773 01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:25.119 that hop, skip and jump from you are Max Spears. You went through 774 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:29.679 all the same stuff he did. Because he's talking about some similar things. 775 01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:34.960 You can fit it into your bucket and therefore adopt it as your identity as 776 01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:38.280 well. Go out and build yourself that conspiracy burrito, because now you have 777 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.599 a foundational like you have the rap to put it in the fact that you 778 01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:49.320 have these memories too. And again I put the percentage of speakers that are 779 01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:53.039 bullshitting higher than the audience that's listening, because I think that there are more 780 01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:57.880 people who are just quiet in the audience, who have been through real programs, 781 01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:04.159 who probably were just is annoyed by this as I was. Well. 782 01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:14.480 The scenarios that are described in these documentaries are verbatim identical to the beginning stories 783 01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:20.199 of any super space program. Whistleble or they're abducted as a child, They're 784 01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.599 taken out of their home by people in a blacked out van, They're driven 785 01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:30.800 to a facility, their MK ultrade, their mind controlled, they're programmed, 786 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:37.559 they're deprogrammed and then reprogrammed. And it's just that everything that happens after the 787 01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:44.840 MK altering is made up. Its delusion, you know, because they say, 788 01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.159 well, after I was MK altered and mind fractured, and then I 789 01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:51.400 went to space for twenty years and went to Mars and fought aliens, and 790 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.679 then I was age regressed back in time the twenty years and then I'm here 791 01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:01.440 instead of yeah, I went to I was. My parents aid these behavioral 792 01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:07.760 modification schools to abduct me, take me to a facility where I was tortured, 793 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:17.880 where I was subjected to brainwashing tactics, and graduated from that school and 794 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:21.679 then went back home tried to tell my parents about it, and my parents 795 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.639 didn't believe me. I mean, which, which story do you want to 796 01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:28.639 go with? But then a few years later, I was watching Guy at 797 01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:31.719 TV and I saw David Wilcock and Corey Good. And when I heard Corey 798 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:36.360 Good talk about that experience, I thought to myself, well, maybe while 799 01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:38.159 I was at Ivy Ridge, they did send me into space for twenty years 800 01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:42.920 and just regressed me and put me back right. Maybe maybe that is what 801 01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.719 happened, and then that becomes no, that is what happened. And then 802 01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.960 the next thing, you know, you've got a fucking YouTube channel and you're 803 01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.679 tell it everybody that's what happened to you, And yeah, that that is 804 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:57.559 what I think happens here. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, 805 01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:00.119 when I was watching the documentary, I was like, this is what 806 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:02.880 all of them, that's what all of them are saying. I'm looking at 807 01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:06.440 my girlfriend, I'm like, what is this because she's just familiar with the 808 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:10.840 you know, what I'm doing and what I've been doing, and I was 809 01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:14.440 like, this is what they all say. They all say that's exact same 810 01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.719 thing, But that doesn't confirm that they actually all went through one of these 811 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:21.880 programs. Like I said, it's someone did at least one person did, 812 01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:27.800 or one person heard somebody else talk about it, and then created and manipulated 813 01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:31.039 and exaggerated the story and mystified the story and turning it into a fairy Tales 814 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:36.000 Spaceland opera. Well that's where how it got had it into it is basically 815 01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.280 it right, like the conspiracy burrito, that is, the secret Space program 816 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:42.800 is something that you have been doing a lot of work to show has been 817 01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:46.679 built over time. This is where that particular ingredient came from. It came 818 01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:53.400 from these schools that were actually doing that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean 819 01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:59.679 it makes complete and total sense, and I recommend that anybody watch this documentary 820 01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:04.280 the pro the program cons cults and kidnapping. And I was really mind blown 821 01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:11.239 that, you know, Netflix allowed this to really even come out. But 822 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:14.079 they've been doing a lot of good stuff here recently. They just came out 823 01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:21.880 with American Conspiracy, The Octopus Murders, unbelievable, rabbit hole, holy shit, 824 01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:29.280 dude, wild. It's about this guy that had a contract with the 825 01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:35.599 Department of Justice to create this computer program that would relate all of these criminal 826 01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:43.320 cases and find relations with each case. And it was basically like a surveillance 827 01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:49.440 type program. And then the Apartment of Justice bankrupts him, steals the software, 828 01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:56.400 and then puts a back door into the software and then sells that software 829 01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:03.360 to all the different other countries intelligence communities so that way they can spy on 830 01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:10.960 what all the other countries are using the program in the software for. Yeah. 831 01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:14.239 Yeah, if you come up with a good idea, someone's gonna steal 832 01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:16.079 that and use it for a bad idea. It's the way that things go. 833 01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:23.840 Yeah, so even these programs are the same thing, like the one 834 01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.079 that like the emphasis they're trying to make with hell Camp about how you know, 835 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:30.599 kids these days do need more discipline and more responsibility, and doing hard 836 01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.039 things does help them learn that. But obviously crossing that line is what they 837 01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:39.719 can point to. Is the same thing with The reason why I think Netflix 838 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:45.800 is doing this is because they operate in the left wing hemisphere of the world 839 01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:50.480 that people are now so appropriately calling a cult. And so the more that 840 01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:55.280 they can put examples of cults out there that look like Jonestown or look like 841 01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.280 this, or it look like Charles Manson, the less the average person will 842 01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:01.519 look at that other thing and say that's a cult too, because it doesn't 843 01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:04.639 seem as extreme. So it's the play on words. It's the same thing 844 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:09.360 with the play on words with the program. It's the same thing they're doing 845 01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:14.159 with words like gender or race or all kinds of different things in our world 846 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:17.360 right now. It's just the parts of it that touch our community and our 847 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:23.440 type of research. Yeah, I've recognized that as well, and it makes 848 01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:31.360 sense as like deception operation that's what Richard Doughty. That's what Richard Dody calls 849 01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:38.800 it now, deception deception operation, which makes sense. How words have double 850 01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:45.480 meanings and how words the public thinks that a word means one thing whenever people 851 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:49.159 say it, but it actually means another thing. That's what I've really realized 852 01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:55.840 with a lot of the buzzwords are rolling around today. They all have double 853 01:07:56.079 --> 01:08:02.280 and triple meanings. It's the public that puts the meaning onto it for themselves. 854 01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:08.400 They're not telling you what these bud buzzwords mean, like you know, 855 01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:16.319 crash retrieval, like biological biologics, national security threat, you know, alien 856 01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:25.960 invasion, insurrection. There's one right, like riot. There's another one that 857 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.960 doesn't mean what it used to mean. There's all sorts of them in the 858 01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:30.399 world today that we can see. And that's like I said, these are 859 01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:34.439 just the ones that are touching our community. Yeah, and I've realized that 860 01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:39.640 a lot of them means something completely separate. And I don't see a lot 861 01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:41.520 of Sorry, I don't see a lot of comments, So I want to 862 01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:43.920 comment on this. Whatever takes you away from family, good, bad, 863 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:46.960 good or bad family and friends is a huge red flag. I very much 864 01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:50.399 agree with that. You know, you don't have to like all of your 865 01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:55.520 family, but your family is your family, and there's still a bond there 866 01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:00.039 that we've learned to break that. You know, obviously a lot of us 867 01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.000 have had shitty family, so this is hard to hear right now, but 868 01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:08.000 we've had that shitty family because that bond started breaking a while ago. So 869 01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:11.880 I very much agree with that comment, and I don't usually see the comments 870 01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.159 very often, so I just wanted to a point that out. Oh we 871 01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:20.000 got a lot here. Yeah, you want to learn to distinguish between being 872 01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:27.920 lonely and being alone happy with your own company. Absolutely, hell, yeah, 873 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:32.359 absolutely. That is really important because there is a huge difference between being 874 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:39.199 lonely and being alone. You can be alone without being lonely. Yep, 875 01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:44.479 you can be lonely and not be alone. And a friend he was kind 876 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:46.039 of an odd dude, but he always he grew up living in Toronto his 877 01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:48.279 whole life, and he would always say it was the loneliest place in the 878 01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:53.720 world. Like, it's a city full of three million people, how are 879 01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.199 you lonely? He's like, this is the loneliest place I've ever been. 880 01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:06.039 Interesting, very interesting, noble truth. Some of us were adopted and don't 881 01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:12.039 have that bond as well as soon they target adopted kids. Yeah, that's 882 01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:17.439 a part of this, uh cons Caultson's documentary. Yeah, yeah, that 883 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:20.640 was a whole other version of the same type of thing that they were running, 884 01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:26.079 but it was for adopted, specifically adopted kids. And yeah, the 885 01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:30.159 amount of those kids who have gone missing and ended up into books about UFO 886 01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:35.000 abductions and sasquatch is actually something to consider as well. I'm missing for one 887 01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:44.199 one people. Yeah. Yeah, there was a section in this documentary, 888 01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:49.479 the documentary filmmaker Quality I spoke about it earlier, but I think it's important 889 01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:57.479 to bring up again. It called this a callity adoption, a behavioral modification 890 01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:02.439 program that was for just for adopted kids. And she was trying to get 891 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:05.039 more she was pretending to be somebody else, and she was trying to get 892 01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:11.039 more information out of the receptionist that she was talking to on the phone, 893 01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:15.239 and it turned out that she was like, oh, well, what if 894 01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:20.359 my adopted kid doesn't want to go willingly because she was trying to she was 895 01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:25.760 trying to get to the point that they're coming in and kidnapping and abducting these 896 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:30.960 kids. And this lady was like, oh, well there's another company that 897 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:36.439 you can pay that will uh, We'll come and get them. And then 898 01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:39.720 she was like, oh what if I don't have the money to do that, 899 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.359 And she was like, oh, well, the state of California will 900 01:11:43.239 --> 01:11:49.680 pay for this. This essentially kidnapping an abduction of your child. And I 901 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:54.880 mean this the human trafficking element, like the kids from other countries. So 902 01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:59.479 they were bringing kids from other countries and running them through behavioral modifications under the 903 01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:03.000 guys of they were acclimatizing them to our culture. Right if you have like 904 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:06.760 a six seven year old kid come from Africa, you know, or a 905 01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:12.239 teenager, let's say, come from Africa. Putting them through into these programs 906 01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:15.880 so that they become American was another selling feature that they would another way that 907 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.039 they would get parents to give their children to these And so yeah, like 908 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:23.760 all of the different human trafficking that we found out through things like the Ebstein 909 01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:29.560 Island. Also like you know what's going on, say with the border organ 910 01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:34.239 donation or organ harvesting, things of that nature. Without even getting into you 911 01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:39.199 know, the more darker things, you can see how these organizations are the 912 01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:46.560 perfect cover for human trafficking, human smuggling, human disappearance, and also for 913 01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:55.439 testing behavioral modification programs that eventually come the early two thousands would be run out 914 01:12:55.479 --> 01:13:00.000 in the public via media campaigns, put into colleges. They are the public 915 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:08.119 schools, colleges and universities put into everything and was all tested real time on 916 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:11.960 your kids. And thanks for paying us for it on top of it too, 917 01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:19.359 Thank you for that. Wow, Dode. The things that we have 918 01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:25.920 done that are just now coming to light, and there's a reason for that 919 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:30.439 too. It's a reason that they're now coming out and saying all this stuff. 920 01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:34.119 And it was thirty years ago, over twenty years ago, fifteen years 921 01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:39.279 ago, because so far in the past. And it's plausible deniability too, 922 01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:42.279 because it can be they could be like, oh, well, we're not 923 01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:45.359 doing that anymore, right, we did this in the past. We did 924 01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:48.640 this fifteen twenty years ago. People are different. And Kat Williams nailed it 925 01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:51.199 to the other part of what I say, because I get asked this question 926 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:56.479 all the time because it's Illuminati based. I'm like, they've rebranded there at 927 01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:59.960 the Umbrella Corporation as I call them now, it's all different. They're recruitment 928 01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:03.399 is different, and a lot of the older people are dying off, and 929 01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.199 so you can't just get in the same way that you used to, and 930 01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:10.760 you don't just get have the same way you used to either, because it's 931 01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:17.399 more interconnected with all of us. So yeah, yes, yes, what 932 01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:23.800 was it? What did I just comment about? What did I just say? 933 01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:30.039 I had something to follow up on it with, but we were talking 934 01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:35.279 about Yeah, I can't remember exactly what you were saying because I started thinking 935 01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:41.199 about the the You know, they can't get away with doing things this way 936 01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:44.600 anymore, but they still do them, right, like oh yeah, yeah, 937 01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:48.159 yeah, all the time lapse in between the them revealing what they were 938 01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:53.720 doing before. It's just like the MK ultra programs. Right if you went 939 01:14:53.760 --> 01:15:00.000 to a normal person on the street and you were like, oh, hey, 940 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:02.159 that doesn't know anything about this. This isn't steeped in this community, 941 01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:06.720 and you'd be like, hey, you know, the CIA was doing mind 942 01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:12.119 control and brainwashing in the early fifties and it ran into the seventies, right, 943 01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:15.279 and they'll be like, oh, well, yeah, but they're not 944 01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:23.479 doing it anymore. That's what I like about this documentary because not only there 945 01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:28.920 was a big emphasis on that it's still happening, that is still going on, 946 01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:34.560 that there's these programs all over the United States in all these different countries 947 01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:40.159 and they're still happening to this very day. They made a point to make 948 01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:44.520 sure that they still said that, because if they didn't, then it could 949 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.359 just be kind of brushed off in a way that people will just think, 950 01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:50.880 oh, well, yeah, they did that fifteen twenty years ago. Whatever, 951 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:56.399 they're not doing it anymore, just like my example with the MK Ultra 952 01:15:56.520 --> 01:16:00.680 programs. Right, yeah, they might have done that shame right better before, 953 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:03.840 are they? But no way now? And we got a bunch of 954 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:10.279 unclear documentation from them about it. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. 955 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.600 Even Project Stargate is another one of those where it's just like, wait 956 01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:17.560 a second, you guys were doing what and then you passed it off to 957 01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:23.359 the CIA and DARPA and the Russians were doing what, And it's like, 958 01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:27.319 what you guys learn how you guys learned it? What have you been doing 959 01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.479 to us? Like, is there some reason why mass formation is so easy 960 01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:34.560 for you guys to throw us into? Did you study something and not tell 961 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:39.960 us about it? Uh? Huh? They did And that's another thing too, 962 01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:45.199 is a lot of these names of these programs have been turned into fairytale, 963 01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:50.520 nonsense stories, so that the real program nobody knows about. It's the 964 01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:57.680 same way with Pegasus, same way with the Pegasus program. Like people have 965 01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:00.079 said, oh, the mk Ultra turned into the product Project Pegasus, and 966 01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:04.520 it was like a time traveling program and like all that. No, Project 967 01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:09.600 Pegasus is a freaking spy software that people can buy to hack into your freaking 968 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:14.520 phoney'll listen to every single thing that you're doing. That's what Project Pegasus is. 969 01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:16.399 And it's the same way with the Stargate program, which I've done so 970 01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:21.159 much research and study into the Stargate program. And also with Operation looking Glass. 971 01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:25.039 You know, these people are like, oh, Operation Looking Glasses an 972 01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.279 advanced government technology lets you see it into the future and seeing into the past. 973 01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:30.840 And the United States has got one, and other countries have got one, 974 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.600 Germany, Russia and all this stuff. And no, the Operation looking 975 01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:39.399 Glass was a real Air Force operation was to put a freaking nuclear command post 976 01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:44.159 in space. My favorite, and I've been tracking this one since the about 977 01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:48.560 nineteen I think like ninety six, is the people who look into the future 978 01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:54.079 and can't see past a certain date because that date just keeps rolling back, 979 01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:59.079 keeps rolling back. It just keeps rolling back, just keeps rolling back, 980 01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:01.640 even out of the same people his mouth. It's very much like David Wilcock 981 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:05.319 waiting for the Alliance to save us in like that date, how it keeps 982 01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:11.720 rolling back. But this second not being able to see past a certain date 983 01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:14.520 in the future has been going on for as long as I've been alive. 984 01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:19.520 It's been pretty hilarious. But anyways, let's just code for the can't make 985 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:27.159 anything else up. They're at the end of their imagination. In some cases, 986 01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:30.640 I think that that is true, you all my creativity and all my 987 01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.079 creative juice and the telling you about the first twenty years in the future. 988 01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:38.800 Or they are just short sighted and they think that they've picked a date far 989 01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:41.720 enough into the future that they'll never get caught. And then that date comes 990 01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.359 up and they're like, oh no, oh, no, we're gonna have 991 01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:48.880 to roll this back. Yep, got to make it, make it further, 992 01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:51.680 further and further in the future. This is the way that it's the 993 01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:57.119 easiest way to do it. Don't don't make your prediction for next week, 994 01:18:57.199 --> 01:18:59.399 next month, next year, in the next five years, you got to 995 01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:03.960 make it way further. Yeah, but yeah, they And then there there's 996 01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:09.039 a level of that that is happening with this being called the program, which 997 01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:12.840 is that mild bit of the annoyance that has been outweighed by the good that 998 01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:15.760 actually will come from this. I do consider this a win, despite the 999 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:19.319 fact that we called what I went through programs and that's not it. So 1000 01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:26.359 there's that a little bit. But it's also because I've always taken the stance 1001 01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.159 that most of the people who think that they've actually been in programs have really 1002 01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:31.439 maybe at best, maybe at best, been in one of those, and 1003 01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:34.880 that most of them are just making it up anyways. That's why this is 1004 01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:40.199 a win all of the same. So I'll take it. I agree. 1005 01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:47.399 You got me any last things to add before we wrap up your today, 1006 01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:51.760 No, man, I'm cool. I'm good. I talked to about so 1007 01:19:51.800 --> 01:19:56.960 a friend of mine who's a pretty big alien and conspiracy theory guy, was 1008 01:19:57.399 --> 01:20:00.600 in Miami when that all went down, and he went over to the mall 1009 01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:04.359 and very much confirmed that all of the rioting that was going on in the 1010 01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:09.920 mall continued out onto the sidewalks, such as them lighting off fireworks out there 1011 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:15.039 and smoke bombs and no aliens. And in fact, that was not even 1012 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:18.119 a buzzword around the thing. Nobody there was saying anything about alias. He 1013 01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:25.159 learned about that on Twitter, so first hand experience, had to find out 1014 01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:30.279 about the aliens on Twitter. So there you go. Yep, And it's 1015 01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:36.239 amazing that you can just change the preconceived notion of what an alien is by 1016 01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:45.199 just adding one word in front of it takes on a completely different new meaning 1017 01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:48.840 illegal. Like all the people who got arrested we never got names out of. 1018 01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:54.880 They're always here, They've always been there, and they're all around us 1019 01:20:55.399 --> 01:20:58.720 exactly. It's a big fucking excuse me put my leg wage again. But 1020 01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:03.159 it's a big problem, a really really really big million body, billion body 1021 01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:11.199 problem right now. And yeah, imagine that they're definitely extraterrestrial and extra tresh 1022 01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:16.560 real meaning from other land. Yeah, a different other land. What's below 1023 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:23.159 us and what's above us? Other land, other land. Amazing, Well, 1024 01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:29.479 I uh, I encourage anybody to watch this documentary of the program cons 1025 01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:34.159 cults and kidnapping and hopefully you're hopefully we did it some justice. I feel 1026 01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:39.359 feel really good talking about it because I've been kind of had it bundled up 1027 01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:43.760 this entire time, and I really wanted to chat about it and hopefully we 1028 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:45.479 did a good job. And if you haven't watched it yet and you get 1029 01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:49.600 a chance to watch it, please do and then then come back and comment 1030 01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:55.960 on the show and let every let us know what you thought of it. 1031 01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:01.399 And I don't know which one I would recommend actually watching for I would probably 1032 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:06.239 say watch that one from watch the program. The other one is just if 1033 01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:11.000 you want a little bit more of the origin story, and another got it 1034 01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:16.439 watched the other one that yeah, because hell Camp is definitely not as brutal 1035 01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:25.359 as the program cons Cults and Kidnapping. It's uh, they're different. First 1036 01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:30.560 one try tries to kind of glorify the man that created the programs and doesn't 1037 01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:34.039 really get into the abuse aspects of it. But the program cons Cults and 1038 01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:42.520 Kidnapping definitely does and they have video proof and documentation of really everything that they 1039 01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:47.199 talk about, which is astounding. Normally, when a documentary of that caliber 1040 01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:54.239 gets made, it's a lot of hyperbole in conjecture and theory that's tossed into 1041 01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:58.279 it, but almost everything that they talk about. They have documentation to back 1042 01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:00.920 it up in video roof to back it up. That was one of those 1043 01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:03.840 things where it looks like she started off making a movie that was this big 1044 01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:08.239 and then in the process of doing that, ended up uncovering so much more 1045 01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:11.319 Like a lot of that footage they found at the place when they finally went 1046 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:14.199 there, right, a lot of the records, so she had she was 1047 01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:15.560 looking at something that was going to be this big, but in the process 1048 01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.279 of doing that, it became that big. So good job to her. 1049 01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:24.359 You know, that was probably very tough for them all to do, to 1050 01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:29.680 be honest, can relate to that. So yeah, definitely check it out. 1051 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:31.199 If you haven't, you would probably enjoy it. If you're watching this, 1052 01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:35.479 Thanks so much, Shane. Appreciate your time to Sevenona and let people 1053 01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:43.359 know where they can find you the internets. What was it link tree after 1054 01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:48.399 the slash Shane under Shane underscore sidor you'll find it awesome. Thank you so 1055 01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:53.039 much. Links to Shane information will be in the description of this video. 1056 01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:56.800 Thank you all so much for being here with us, Noble Truth. Good 1057 01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.720 to see you, my friend. Thanks for being a channel member. Appreciate 1058 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:03.439 you and being a moderator, and thank you so much for being a Writer 1059 01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:10.199 Ranger channel member as well, Sandra, good to see you and anybody else 1060 01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:14.399 that was in the chat that contributed to the conversation. Thank you guys so 1061 01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:17.199 much for being here. I really appreciate it. 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