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The episode the Challenge Mane is spoiled before it aired. For everybody, what
happened? What happened? I haven't heard of this on their little Facebook page,
who I'm assuming is run by Scott Yeager posted yesterday morning, Hey everybody,
the episode you've been waiting for since twenty nineteen is airing tonight, to
which Joker then responded, thanks for the spoiler, asshole, And then they've
tried to be like, we didn't say who it was, Like you said
twenty nineteen and he's like, yeah, but the episode's called a Legend return,
So I'm like and Joker is like, yeah, but you basically told
us who it was. Thanks, So the spoiler was just the person at
the end? Kara, Yes, yeah, yeah, that's still Uh did
we not see her in the preview last week? Because I feel like I've
known all week that car was coming this week? Yeah. I feel like
they announced the dates of every legend like in a row, like I've known
every one of them who's going to be there. Yeah, I don't remember
them announcing the dates of when everybody was going to be coming, but like
we knew who was going to be there. Yeah. I assumed that this
week was going to be a guy's week because we've had a lot of these,
Like we've had a lot of female eliminations. It feels like we've had
more female eliminations we've had male eliminations by a lot. Yeah. I wonder
if this is part of the chaos from Bananas backing out. They had to
kind of stack women and get Brad out there or something, you know what
I mean, I had that exact same thought if this was like a if
it got switched for that exact reason. Yeah, next too have to be
met eliminations because there's only yeah, two champions left. Yeah, and we
know who they are, right, we know who the last one is.
I'm not mad about the fact that we knew who it was in a general
sense for the show. We all knew she was coming back at some point.
It's just giving it away on the specific day of like everybody guess he's
back tonight, and it's like, yeah, the fucking episode that is frustrating,
so fuck them, and Joker called him out. It's a good job,
Joker, Yeah job Joker, well done. Well let's get into this
absolute shit. Can they just listen to last week's episode of the podcast and
it's covered. I feel like we covered it. Car comes and she doesn't
win and Michelle wins. Okay, we're done. Bye. Yeah. It's
interesting when these like like the dynamics in the house did not change, right,
we see that rape, Raven and Colleen are the same ones down there,
and it's sort of is like, of course, that's how that's gonna
be there's if nobody's going home, the dynamics in the house do not change.
We're gonna see the keep seeing this over and over again. Well,
and so they kind of tried to pull a switcherrou on us at the beginning
of the episode because the very first person in the episode, I mean other
than them, like, yay, Raven's back. She did so good.
She beat Laurel, which there was a lot less I Beat Laurel talk than
I expected there to be. It started immediately with it, but James had
the very first talking head and he started going off about how he's now going
he has a huge target on his back and he's going to be up for
elimination next guaranteed U. But then it immediately switches over to Raven and she's
talking about how she's she beat the champ. Also, I mean I wasn't
here last week, but like with the Laurel elimination and then tonight with the
Car elimination, like we're all was anyone saying around being like, you know
what, I want to see those two women do an elimination a puzzle.
I realized that I got real heated the week that we had Drell in town.
But he falls into the same category of we have three people who would
kill it in the sand, and they gave us fucking puzzles for Laurel and
Carras. But like, Kara has never been good at puzzles, why would
you put her in a puzzle? I mean, she she won her solo
championship on auzzle against against Sack. Yeah, she only barely won Bloodlines because
of a puzzle. But I mean, we know we're gainst even won the
elimination against Johnny and what's his face, Vinnie Pig. She only barely won
that one, and it was a puzzle, and we know we're getingst Cet
later down the line. And he's really good at puzzles, doesn't mean we
want to see him do one Like No, No, one's like hoping he
comes in and does a soku. Yeah, they should have had the champs
recreate some of their best eliminations car like the car versus Naya one where she
just sort of dug into the ground and dug into the ground and ended up
beating Naya, who was much much, much bigger. Yeah. Well,
yeah, let's let's save this for the actual for a minute. We'll get
it back at the beginning of the episode, we get uh oh. We
also get an immediate like Michelle starting to talk about the feud between her and
Laurel, which annoyed the fuck out of me because it's like, Laurel's not
here, You've already you've seen her. She's coming God, she's not coming
back. Why are we more? I've always been indifferent on Michelle. This
episode this week made me hate. I'm so over Michelle. There was a
lot of Queen Bee talk. Yeah, I'm going from neutral to dislike of
Michelle, and I'm going from like to dislike of Jay. This season's making
me hate everybody. Yep. And weirdly, I went a little bit dislike
to like for Corey because at least he owned how horrible he is. Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of tide shifting talk. We get a Nourice
talking to her family conversation saying how she's dating someone in the house, and
then they start talking about how Olivia's been talking about her, which this maybe
this will come to fruition next episode, but there was nothing in it this
episode. It's very weird. I had to go on the MTV Challenge subreddit
to even dig up like context about what the fuck they were even fighting about,
and apparently, and Zach, I don't know what you read, but
on the MTV Challenge subreddit, they're reporting that Anissa went to Nourice's brother and
told Nourice's brother that Olivia was talking all this shit. Super weird. This
is all super weird. Did Nourice like go on the podcast? How the
fuck does Anissa know? I don't know. I think Anissa's just putting her
nose and shit like she always does. I have no idea, Zach,
do you know anymore? That's that's literally all I know. No, I
mean, the way I gauge is I figured Anissa probably told her brother like,
oh, you know, like Olivia and I were together before she left
a film and she was talking all this shit about Nourice. But why would
Anissa do that? What is her motivation to go and talk shit about Nourice
to her to Narsa's brother, Like, I don't know, Olivia did an
Instagram live last Angele's saying that, you know, like the day before she
left, Anissa like FaceTime turn was like, oh my gosh, I'm like
so excited for you, Like you're gonna kill it I'm gonna be rooting for
you. So she's like, I don't know why I needs would do this
because I thought we were good. Yeah, who knows, Kay says in
the chat room. And Nissa is too old to be like this. Okay,
none of us can judge a Nissa for doing that because we are currently
on a podcast and we're all near her age. Yeah, I yeah,
but it's also we're on a podcast that's where we're supposed to be true.
But she also, I mean, doesn't she still do the doesn't she still
do the challenge? But I mean, it is fucking weird that she called
her brother, But whatever, we can move on. Oh, Olivia and
Larsa talk and Olivia tells her that she feels like this is the second episode
that we've gotten this, that she feels like Karassi isn't spending enough time with
her, and she mentions that Karasi spends a lot of time with Zara,
and like, Naris, aren't you uncomfortable by that guys are allowed to have
female friends and vice versa? I don't. I don't understand why this is
a problem. This is all super high school ship. This is high school,
total high school ship. This entire house is full of high schoolers.
Yeah, that friend isn't talking to me like I think that friend should and
we're not friends now, please get the fuck over it. It's idiots.
It was weird, but he looks like, sh what was that? You
didn't tell me he was going to be on this season? What the fuck?
That is a little bit odd though, Like they were so close last
season, Like if he if she asked him and he like lied to her,
It's like, what's the purpose of that. I have a feeling that
it was probably more of like he just didn't bring it up and she never
asked, because we've seen we've seen how he asked acts with Nourice. They've
been dating, seeing each other whatever for a few weeks now and they only
just kissed the last episode. Like, if he's like that with a partner,
I can only imagine how he is how guarded he is with friends.
That's possible. Yeah, it's all weird, But Harassio is another one.
I went from really liking him to I just don't like him. I think
he looks he has no personality and it's super annoying. Yep, it now
seems very inauthentic. That's sort of like, yeah, holier than now,
good boy thing. It's like, yeah, I bought it last season.
I don't think I buy it now and now I think it's an act.
I like him just because I'm getting tired of this Michelle j super alliance,
and he's one of the ones that seems ready to make a move and flip
it upside down. I don't think that he is, though, like he's
he doesn't seem to have the I think Kyland is willing to do it.
Yeah, Kyland has been growing on me because he's willing to like actually do
something. But Harassio might. He might say things in his talking head and
he might like throw a name out there occasionally, but I don't think he
has the balls to back it up. I don't think that he would.
I don't think that he would actually do it, like start the no,
I'm I'm calling this person out. Everything we see from Rossio says he doesn't
want to rock the boat. He doesn't want to say a name that hasn't
been said. He'll vote with the majority just because what's the difference. Yeah,
No, I agree. I don't think he's gonna be the one that
goes out there and like throws the name out or like flips it. But
I think if like Kylan gets the numbers and comes in and says Rossio,
I have the numbers to flip it, I think he's like, great,
I'm on board. Like if this is the new majority, I'm going with
you guys. Yeah, yeah, he's he's annoying me me too, But
whatever, we are already onto the challenge. Sorry I could have given you
more warning. The challenge is called We All Fall Down, Tim you want
to give us a rundown? Yeah? I kind of like this one.
There's like a hanging wall in the middle of a platform. You push the
hanging wall to knock off another team. Do it in teams of four.
Kind of real simple, fun to watch, Like this is kind of easy
to like kind of wrap my head around, and there's no like weird shit.
There's you know, I don't know. I kind of liked all of
this. I like the drone shots were kind of cool. I don't know
that this was a good simple game. I liked this game too, and
it was I really liked that the wall was see through so you could see
what the other team was doing. I liked that there was a very definite
like this team lost and this team won and it wasn't based on time.
Yep, Yeah, I liked this one. It was also fun to like
see all how all of them would move, because some of the teams you
could see them all line up and push together and they moved kind of as
a single unit. And then others you had people who were like constantly moving
around and like there were whoever, James's team, there's a point in time
where they were all yelling at him. Corey's team, they kept yelling at
him. Tim tell that kid to go to fucking bed, Sally, go
to bed. I think this is definitely one of the better Daily challenges we've
had this season. Yeah, same, Yeah, I Sally, she can't
hear you, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to put it in bed.
I'll be back hopefully we'll see it if you. Yeah. I mean
it's overall. I was not thrilled with this episode, but this Daily I
really enjoyed. Daily was good. I liked seeing uh uh. I don't
know, maybe we're jumping ahead, but fucking Ed just manhandle people. Ye.
I love that. I love Ed too, Like he's one that my
opinion of him hasn't changed. I really liked him the first time he showed
up on this show as like as A as A replaced and I really like
him still, Like he's fun and he's boisterous, and he seems like he
would be a fun person to be around. And they haven't shown too much
of him, which is true. Nice, but yeah, so we have,
oh we do. When they when they start this all off, they're
doing the thing of like the first two teams, they as you know,
you guys excited for this or how are you feeling about the challenge? How
are you feeling about your team? And Michelle is on a team with a
few people that she's not super thrilled to be on with, and she immediately
starts freaking out on all of them. She has a Michelle down, yep,
full Michelle down, and they're just there like, what the fuck is
wrong with you? Like, we haven't even gone up there yet. Why
do you think they get? Yeah, it's it's rather entertaining. Ultimately,
Haracio ed, Zara and Berna win and they are told that they have to
pick a woman. Everybody is Florida, Scott says, Berna and Zara we're
having a contest. You get their shorts farther up their ass. You're saying
that like a complaint, Scott, I'll have to go back and look,
I didn't notice we're talking about Tim since you just rejoined. We're talking about
Zara and Burna happened their shorts way up their ass. Oh yeah, I
didn't mind that. I didn't even notice. Well you're a woman, yeah,
if you if you didn't know that, really, surprise, surprise,
there are boobs down there. How about that. You're welcome for telling whoa
to be fair, there's boobs out in the mind too. Good point,
good point. Uh yeah, So the Tracio ads and Berna win and they're
told they have to pick a woman. Everybody up there is completely floored because
they all thought that it was gonna be we just had They just had a
women's Day, and the last time they had a Women's Day, they had
a second Women's Day immediately, So it's been very, very female heavy with
the eliminations. Recently, they deliberate and Berne is pulling really hard to not
put Colleen in there again. She wants to put in Mariah or Raven and
everybody else out votes are and ultimately they picked Colleen, Yeah, which wasn't
surprising. I mean, I sad, I was sad that Colleen went in,
but I was happy to see Berna Knock get her way because Berna just
continues to annoy me every episode. Well Berna got her way anyway, because
she went in Raven right, and Raven was the other one. So it's
I think we always knew it was gonna be Colleen and Raven again, like
it had to be. So it's kind of like, who cares if it's
the the winners nomination of the House vote? Who cares gonna be this?
To people? These House votes are the most boring pieces of ever. It's
just all of them. It really, all it us is. It serves
for them to dig themselves into a hole. That's it. It's been obvious
every nomination. The person even probably knows that it's them. So it's just,
yeah, it seems totally surperfus superfluous, that's the that's the word.
Yeah, Because we go back to the House and we have Colleen trying to
campaign to get Michelle in, and then we have Michelle and j talking to
As about Colleen's plan, and we have Olivia freaking out about Horasio's friendship Withzura.
Again, we have Olivia talking to Horassio, We're talking to Jay about
Harassio, and then we've got Kylan and Horassio talking about Jay, and it's
just it's a bunch of back and forth and all of it could have been
caught because none of it came to any fruition. Yep, do you have
something, Tim, No, gotcha. See Now, the problem is the
format of this section of the show causes the problem with these deliberations, because
if Colleen could very easily go in and be like, I want Michelle,
I got the deliberation. I want Michelle. Michelle is the one I want
to go in. Yeah, and everybody could use as an excuse to vote
Michelle in. But since they're not going head to head, it's like people
are like, oh, well, I don't want to do that because,
yeah, Michelle more likely will not end up in the elimination anyway. Yeah.
The one thing that came out of this whole little like back and forth
everybody talking to each other back in the house thing was the Fantastic Four gets
brought up a bit quite a few times from like episodes ago. This is
yet another one. How does no one know that Osiff is working with Jay
and Michelle? People are dumb. I think people do know, and they
like we are constantly seeing scenes of them all sitting there talking, huddled together
talking. How do you not know? I think they do know. I
think it just has to Yeah, Scott says, nobody cares. I think
that's it. Nobody cares. I I don't think they do know, because
I would like to hope these people are smart enough if they knew that that,
they're not going to be openly discussing, you know, targeting Michelle and
Jay in front of us off then yea later in this episode. Yeah,
well it happened earlier in this episode. Yeah, it's I don't think ASoft
has any pull in either way. He just votes with Jane Michelle. Yeah,
so they constantly votes with Jane Michelle. I'm so confused as to how
he's been able to hide that he's part of their alliance. Yeah. I
just think he's ineffective it. I just don't think people are threatened by it,
you know. Yeah, well we are onto deliberation. I don't say
my name, Ditch. Nothing exciting comes of this other other than Corey saying
that he's going to vote for Raven because he's a pussy. Oh and Raven
gets voted in. That's it. That's all that, That's all that came
out of. Yeah. Yeah, I's disappointed all this stuff we saw leading
up to this about like the people on the bottom realizing a change needs to
happen, of like, are we finally going to see them make the move
and then they're like, yeah, no, we're just all gonna go Raven.
I don't think we're going to see a move in this Chaos portion because
you know, there's whoever you throw down, they're almost definitely going to come
back. Like this is the first season I can remember where it's like less
than fifty percent chance that the person you throw in is is going to be
eliminated. Yeah, uh so it's very weird. Yeah, so people keep
saying the same names over and over like of course they are. They're not
going to make another new enemy that's probably going to come back. Yeah.
I really liked this. I liked how they were doing this at the very
first, like episode or two of Chaos, the episode with Jordan. I
love that they had to pick that, you know, someone got picked and
they had to pick a name and it could be one of the two of
them, or could be this weird other thing. And then the second episode
when Chaos actually showed up, like sweet, this could be really cool,
and ever since then it's just been absolute shit. Yeah, it feels like
a lot of the complaints that I have about this season are production, Like
the games are stupid and shitty, the rules kind of suck. The rules
may are sort of set up to make this not and they're very They could
have tweaked things just slightly and it would make it so much better. Yeah,
the number one thing would be in the elimination if they put them in
eliminations that actually benefited the fucking challenge or the mercenaries. Yeah, and somebody
should go home every episode. Yeah, somebody should go home every episode.
Like, it seems silly that I have to say that, but that's how
the show works. Yep, We're already in an elimination. Hold on,
So they go into elimination, the mercenary comes out, pulls the pulls the
hammer or whatever, and so they pulled the name and they face off with
that person. So then if the mercenary wins, that person goes home.
If the mercenary loses, the other person goes home. So what happens if
they pull chaos and the person from chaos wins, they get to pick whoever
they want they get, They get to pick whoever they want to go home.
Yes, I like that. There you go. Do you actually like
that? People would be up in arms, but I don't. Here,
I think that's fun. Mtd us people would be like, oh, but
that's not a lot of power to have. Uh huh So yeah, I
think that. Yeah, uh, this may be the shortest episode ever.
Well, I have a feeling that I have a feeling that this right here
is going to be real long. That's what said say. Uh, we
get one of my favorite players of this entire game. She has had some
real shitty seasons. She's dating a due that none of us like, but
I'll forever love her. Tara Maria comes out. I am so fucking excited
to see her come back. Me too, Carlyn, me too. Gods,
she was in a great mood and she looks fucking good. Last couple
of seasons we saw her, she was not. I think. No,
she looks like she's kind of gotten her ship back together. I don't know
how quickly that would crumble if she came back to the show, But it
was so good to see her. Yeah, it was really good to see
her come out. I have a complicated past with car Maria. She was
my favorite challenger of all time. I had the biggest crush on her.
And then yeah, about the time of Dirty thirty or Vendettas at change,
she just turned entitled and weird and I don't know, but now this was
like I saw the old car. She was smiling, she had that fire
in her she was in loved it. I did too. It was really
nice to see her again. Yeah, Tim, Tim loved porn pirate Maria.
I did. She came out. She came out full porn pirate hair.
Yes, she did. Cutthroat car Maria is the most beautiful woman of
all time. Yeah, she's that smile unbelievable. Yeah, we learned something
that I did not know. Car Maria is TJ's favorite challenger. He said
that. I was like, that's that is some serious praise right there.
She has had fourteen seasons. She has made it to nine finals. I
don't know that they actually said it, but I think she only has two
wins, right, Yeah, yes, but she has been in nineteen eliminations
and she has won thirteen of them. She's got a fucking killer record.
She has been thrown in so many times, which is a point of contention.
Yeah, she finds out that Colleen and Raven are the ones who keep
getting put in. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I want to give you
guys a night off. Then yeah, TJ. TJ kind of gives her
the quick rundown. You know, you if you win, you get ten
grand and you send someone home. If they win, Uh, they could
keep the ten grand and the person stays. There are three things that you
can pull in the draw, and one of them has There are two that
each have the names of the two people down here, and there's one that
is the chaos Mace. Who thinks there was three chaos maces down there?
Percent think there are three chaos maces. I think either that or production tells
them. Yeah it was. It was one of the two. There was
no way that she didn't know. I don't think there's three of them there,
of course you don't. Do you think someone told her? I don't
know. I feel like the legal team would be staying there being like nope,
Nope, that's gonna influence the outcome directly, like we could get sued
for that. You know, I feel like I feel like you you put
too much stuck in this legal team that they have. Yeah, she he
says, and without me ado, without any more ado, please pick your
your thing in the draw. And she was, well, t J,
can I have some further ado? And she just starts talking ship, which
would have been really awesome if she had won it. And apparently she talked
a lot more ship than we saw, like a lot of it. They
all deserve it. Yeah, a lot of cats came on Twitter and said,
oh, like she was just dragging us no stop, which is they
said, plays a big and they said, I played a big factor in
why you see so many people supporting Michelle in the elimination. They were all
gonna support Michelle anyway. That's some bullshit if they're blaming it on that.
There is no way that they were going to support Carl Maria. They wanted
to keep Michelle around, they wanted to keep the ten grand Like, no
fucking way that they were going to ever support her. Yep, I agree.
I think these people are insane for rooting for Michelle even like get everybody
out, Like, get every whoever you can get out of the game.
You should be trying to get him out right now, Like, yeah,
you might be losing ten grand out of the pot, but get other people
at it. Get Michelle is a strong player right now, get her out
of the fucking game. Yep, this is your perfect time to do that.
Switch up. Get some people over on car inside to help her win.
Yeah, Which I still don't understand how Michelle is a strong person.
I don't either making sense to me. What is happening? Well, And
like I didn't realize until this episode when they brought it up a few times,
she had not been into elimination once until now, and she hasn't done
well in any of the dailies. So as to how she's leading the house
is kind of bizarre. I mean, she wants which is great, but
she hasn't won Jack on the challenge yeah, I mean Survivors. Yeah,
that's all about the social mental game. You don't need to be strong in
the challenges to succeed there. But I did love it, we thought earlier
Kylin kind of called her out, being like I had Michelle's back because all
the girls I really care about it and you could smoke her in the final
Yeah, I did appreciate that, but yeah, yes, anyway, Kara
does say at one point she's talking everybody up on the up on the board
or up on the stands, saying, okay, well, if I picked
the chaos Mace, she kind of pulls a Devin says, if I picked
the Chaos Mace, who should I pick? And she calls Michelle first,
but she doesn't say Michelle. She calls her her. She calls her orange
shirt. Look to this, this is a classic tid move, yied.
She picked that one up from men. I don't know your name, so
I'm just going to find some characteristic, probably not flattering, to call you
a orange shirt. It made me really happy when she did that, because
I knew that that just needled the fuck out of Michelle. She was pissed,
of course, to your name. And Michelle doesn't give her a name
and kind of waffles with what she's gonna say, and Carra immediately goes,
I don't like to throw names out. Yeah, she was okay, cool,
then you're coming down, like, if you're not giving me a name,
then obviously you want to be down here. Which is fantastic because it's
what we've all said multiple times. Maybe not that they want to be down
there, but if you're not going to give a name, then they should
absolutely be calling yours. Yeah. So yeah, in retrospect, all of
this is yeah. Well, Carra finally finally pulls from the draw and she
gets the Chaos mace and immediately calls down Orange Shirt aka Michelle. She looked
mortified to Michelle when she pulled the Max, just no expression, just blank
face. Yeah. Oh man, Colleen and Raven fucking stoked and down Yeah.
Oh I love that. It was great, Like it really was,
Like Kara did do a really good job. I'm kind of telling them,
like I have been in your position more times than I can count. I
have been called down here consistently every season I have ever been on, and
so I get it. So if I pull the Chaos Mace, You're definitely
not going to be here, which I loved, Like it was nice to
see that. Yeah, It's always shocking when these vets come in at the
end, because this is like, this is who we were waiting for,
this is this is the only part of the season where I'm engaged at all.
Yeah, it's just it's when these legends come back and they just show
up and they they dominate the screen and they just take it over. The
unfortunate part is so far the only one that we have seen that is truely
dominated the screen with Jordan. He started this shit off on a fucking high
note. It was such a god. I came out of that episode on
such a high. I was so excited about the rest of these mercenaries,
so excited. Yep, and it has just been bullshit since then. Well,
I mean they've lost forty grands, so true. Yep, they've lost
some players. But it's yeah, they should have brought back classic eliminations for
these legends, eliminations that the legends have won or are good at, and
headbangers that are fun to watch and fun to root for. Somebody. This
is a puzzle. It's like, it's not head to head. They're not
battling each other. They're just seeing who can do it faster. Not interested.
I don't care. This is not fun to watch. It's the third
week in a row where so the game real quick is called blockhead. There
are nine giant cubes out in the arena that are really heavy that the girls.
The ladies have to flip and roll and tumble over onto these squares and
put them in a certain order because they have a puzzle on the top that
they have to show a picture. This is the third week in a row
that we have gotten a serious physical competitor and they have been given a fucking
puzzle. Yep, kind of lame. They have wasted three amazing physical competitors
on puzzles. Yeah, and I'm really worried they're going to do it to
Brad and CT. Yeah. At least CT is known for being good at
puzzles. Yeah, but we don't want to see him do a puzzle.
We want to see him he want to see him in a hall brawl is
what we really want. I mean, I want to see him in the
backpack. I know, you guys say what happened, but bring back the
backpack. I mean I would be the only one that I would be okay.
The only puzzle I would be okay with CT doing is not so fast.
And that's just because he's it's fun and watching him do not so fast.
But I don't want to see him do not so fast in this game.
I want to see him in a fucking headbanger in this game. Yeah,
well we've seen the previews. Somebody does a haul brawl. I don't
know if it's or if it's going to be in conquests or whatever the next
oh okay is it also looks like a lame another one. They have to
use the mats in front of them to push each other. I you know
what I think it is. I kind of feel like, because we were
talking about this in the USA season when it was on CBS, they they
put childproofing on all of the channel, all of the headbangers. Yea.
And I really do wonder if CBS has gotten to MTV and that's why they've
given all of these puzzles rather than doing headbangers to tell that kid to go
to fucking bed Jesus. Yeah, so I don't know the puzzle thing.
At first, I was kind of excited because Michelle looked like she was gassing
out. Yeah, I was like, oh, Car may have this Car
was doing like straight up like Jordan type ship where Michelle struggling to get this
block and Carl Maria moves her block and just puts it right in front of
her. She and Car just manhandled those those blocks, just straight have walked
over to him, pushed him over, like they weighed three pounds. Yeah,
so I was really hoping I ended up. Yeah, tell me,
I'm trying. I'm trying. Give me a minute. Yeah, it's just
I appreciated the car. At one point in time, calls herself chaos Maria.
I thought that was funny. It's gonna be my quote for the end
of the episode. I'm sorry there you umm, but I mean it just
yeah. My only notes for this were, what the fuck is this giant
puzzle ship? Why are they doing yet again a puzzle for an in the
sand champ? We do get, miss we get, do get people saying
that Michelle like Michelle saying that puzzles are her thing, and someone says that
people call Michelle the puzzle queen. Do they like since since when? Like,
I don't think that you qualify as a puzzle queen until you have,
honestly, until you've done puzzles like Sarah and Susie and some of these some
of these women. You don't get to be a puzzle queen until you have
reached that kind of level. Well, so Kay wants to know, Zach,
what did you think of it? Kind of quiet. I thought the
challenge was extremely dumb, you know. I just the elimination. Yeah,
the elimination, Like I just thought like, yeah, it's a waste of
Kara, Like you're saying, the waste of all those people. Darrell is
like, I mean, Darrell, I'm good with whatever. Like when I
think of him, I don't think of him as like, you know,
one of the most premier physical athletes. But uh, but I mean he's
he's I expected his to be a like a pole wrestler or something like that.
Yeah, I could expect him to put him on a fucking movable platform
with light candles. There were sparklers, there was yeh. But but yeah,
having a puzzle, especially in a situation like this where you know so
many other people can jump in and help, and we see that on the
show all the time. So it's like, yeah, get sit there and
be like, well that's not fair because they would do it all the time.
But I mean, I I was talking with some friends earlier. They're
like, oh, I actually a lot of keep online saying like there's an
asterisk connect to Michelle's win, and like hired me is like, well that's
not true. I was like yeah, kind of because she went against something
car is not strong at and it was basically getting sixteen Yeah, find a
Windows XP you sound like a robot. Find a windows. It's hard to
hear better. Yes, that's fair. Okay. Yeah. I saw a
few things online before I before the pod today and it sounds like it looks
like a lot of people are real pissed that yet again we got another fucking
puzzle. Yeah, at least there was a strength component to this one.
It was fun watching cars launch those blocks around. Yeah, it was,
but I wanted it to be like she's the launch blocks around and then like
beat the shit out of Michelle or something. Yeah. No, it was
the Kara is not good at puzzles. She has never been good at puzzles.
Yeah, and she had some strategies to put that block in front of
Michelle's block. That was smart, but she needed to be She needed to
sort of like pre plan how the puzzle was gonna be laid out and it
I know Michelle got help, but we saw her do that. She was
like, I need this part that's like rounded on the top and with the
whatever, and then she found the right piece and brought it over. It
seemed like she just had a better strategy. And I think Michelle's wind does
count. It does. I don't think there's an asterisk there. I don't
really care anything this season. I'm like, yeah, sure, it all
counts. I don't give a shit. Yeah, I mean I think I
think it counts a little bit more than the win last week against Laurel,
but it's still it's still a fucking puzzle. And I just don't like I
really don't like Michelle and don't want to give it to her. But if
it was Michelle versus any other any other of the people that were on this
season, you wouldn't take that went away from her, right, it's it's
elimination. It counts. Yeah, But I also wouldn't take last week's win
away from anybody else on this season if it were against anybody else. Yeah,
it's just that the Vets talents are wasted. Yes, absolutely, It's
just fucking bullshit. It's so frustrating. M Yeah. Scott brings up in
the chat room that the fact that they carried Michelle off on their shoulders made
him gag. Same here, dude, same here. I could not believe
that we watched that. Kate brings up. They should have they should have
done balls in. Yeah, that's what we haven't seen it for a while.
That would have been great. Car broke her fucking hand in that one.
Well she played it with a broken hand. I think, right,
she broke it. That's how she broke it. So, Alison, I
just watched Free Agents this weekend, and uh, I think about earlier because
when you're saying that, like car you know it's only lost, like was
it four eliminations five, it's like, well, one of those she lost
because she had a broken hand against Laurel. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and she even won the elimination that she competed in where she broke her hand.
Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's really unfortunate to watch these just
absolute beasts go and get completely just completely wasted on the channel on the elimination
they go in. It's just it's super frustrating. Carlo's got her head back
on her chair. She's so responded. Yes, ah, there's so much
emotion in me. This season. Well, as far as we know,
we only got two champs left and that's Brand and Cete. Yeah, and
we know they're saving for last two. Of course, what do we want
CT to go up against us off and rip his fucking head off. I'm
going to see him go against j and Ri. It's going to be a
rematch, rematch, I would love that. Seemed like they were selling that
pretty hard earlier this season. Yeah, because they're selling it. I don't
think it's going to happen. I think it could be fun to see him
go against Kyland. Yeah, the James. I was trying to remember James's
name. I was gonna say the gas out. James totally would gass out.
But that'd be satisfying to see C T C T do the train like
I mean, if it's if it's physical, he's going to do the train
anyway, I hope. So I'm pumped screen coming through the station. Lara
Carra's Boston accent came out real heavy this episode. Yes, a few times
I was like, CT, is that you? I wonder why that is?
I wonder what brought that out? I heard this time around. I
noticed it too. I don't know, Maybe she's just spent more time back
back there. Yea yeah, uh Tam. Are you excited to see Brad?
Always love Brad. Gotta get those crazy eyes out of his head.
Well, Brad is so fun to watch. He's just one of these guys
that like, he finds these really clever, weird ways to win these eliminations,
and I'm always excited to see how he how he pulls it out.
He's like a Jordan in that way. He sees it a little differently and
he just, yeah, he executes differently. He beat only dude to beat
Land and Land and and ct and eliminations, just saying yeah, yeah,
I think that'll be fun to just because he's if he's still as huge as
he has been in previous seasons, it'll be fun to see him come out.
What am I gonna do? I bet he will, but he's all
roided up. I'm sure he's differently because his eyes are so good. That's
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Zach, get ready to defend yourself? Zach uh from cash Age says
Zach needs to cool it on the Josh Talk. Zach saying Josh carried his
team in Reindeer Games. Brig brother is a joke. The women carried Josh
on that team. Someone needs to muzzle Zach if he if he raves about
Josh again, but still give us five stars. So thank you, kash,
thank you for the five stars. Zach, defend yourself. What was
that person's name again, kash Age. They need to someone say that,
Yeah, Josh, Josh is a meebal, Josh is amazing, Like,
get on his level. I'm sorry that you can't recognize greatness when you say
this level is the floor boom roasted? Yeah, but still social media STI
not to a lot. We had. We had this stuff earlier that Tim
and I brought up about the Anissa drama. Apparently Jordan was saying some stuff
about, you know, like defending Carl Maria, and I want to see
what it was. And it appears like I think Carl Maria deleted her Twitter
and Jordan got banned off Twitter. So I don't know what's going on there.
Jordan got banned from Twitter. I think I went to it as a
Twitter no longer exists. I don't know how someone can get banned. Well,
X fuck Elon Musk if he's banning my boy Jordan this platform. I
mean he let he let Trump back on. So yeah, I know,
like a five hours ago, someone posted on Reddit a picture from him,
and I know, I want if that's from his instagram. But what was
that? So I wonder if it's from his instagram. People are no,
Yeah, that's pretty much all social media is. It's been a quiet week
on social media, clearly, Zach said Martin, all right, do we
have anything else? Alright? Wrap this shut up? Forty five minutes him
not the shortest episode ever, but still pretty quick, close, close,
all right, all right, I guess that's it for this episode of Challenge.
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