1 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:21,359 Hey, everybody, welcome to an episte of Challenge to podcast all about the 2 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:29,039 Challenge as always, Brian sitting over doing bedtime duty, Big Ogu, Sweet 3 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:35,759 Tea. Uh in Minnesota, San Diego, not moved to Australia yet, 4 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,359 No, and uh it was absent last week, but it's back at work 5 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:47,679 this week. Zachie Bananas. They actually let him out, they did. 6 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:51,439 My boss actually told me my got here data he might be back tonight. 7 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,240 I was like, I can't miss two nights in a row. So if 8 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,240 I just suddenly vanished, you know why. We got two people that might 9 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,880 be vanishing tonight. But you and I gotta hold the shit down. Everybody 10 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,680 at every challengepot dot com joined the Facebook group. You can also join our 11 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,959 patreon. But hey, let's get in to this episode, episode twelve, 12 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:19,640 The episode the Challenge Mane is spoiled before it aired. For everybody, what 13 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,560 happened? What happened? I haven't heard of this on their little Facebook page, 14 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:32,400 who I'm assuming is run by Scott Yeager posted yesterday morning, Hey everybody, 15 00:01:32,519 --> 00:01:38,000 the episode you've been waiting for since twenty nineteen is airing tonight, to 16 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:45,040 which Joker then responded, thanks for the spoiler, asshole, And then they've 17 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,879 tried to be like, we didn't say who it was, Like you said 18 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:51,760 twenty nineteen and he's like, yeah, but the episode's called a Legend return, 19 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:55,400 So I'm like and Joker is like, yeah, but you basically told 20 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,439 us who it was. Thanks, So the spoiler was just the person at 21 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:05,560 the end? Kara, Yes, yeah, yeah, that's still Uh did 22 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:07,240 we not see her in the preview last week? Because I feel like I've 23 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,680 known all week that car was coming this week? Yeah. I feel like 24 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:15,400 they announced the dates of every legend like in a row, like I've known 25 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:19,919 every one of them who's going to be there. Yeah, I don't remember 26 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,080 them announcing the dates of when everybody was going to be coming, but like 27 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:27,280 we knew who was going to be there. Yeah. I assumed that this 28 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,199 week was going to be a guy's week because we've had a lot of these, 29 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,719 Like we've had a lot of female eliminations. It feels like we've had 30 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:38,080 more female eliminations we've had male eliminations by a lot. Yeah. I wonder 31 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,400 if this is part of the chaos from Bananas backing out. They had to 32 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:45,240 kind of stack women and get Brad out there or something, you know what 33 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,000 I mean, I had that exact same thought if this was like a if 34 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,319 it got switched for that exact reason. Yeah, next too have to be 35 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,960 met eliminations because there's only yeah, two champions left. Yeah, and we 36 00:02:59,039 --> 00:03:00,840 know who they are, right, we know who the last one is. 37 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:07,159 I'm not mad about the fact that we knew who it was in a general 38 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:09,319 sense for the show. We all knew she was coming back at some point. 39 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:15,080 It's just giving it away on the specific day of like everybody guess he's 40 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,439 back tonight, and it's like, yeah, the fucking episode that is frustrating, 41 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,919 so fuck them, and Joker called him out. It's a good job, 42 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,919 Joker, Yeah job Joker, well done. Well let's get into this 43 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:32,960 absolute shit. Can they just listen to last week's episode of the podcast and 44 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:38,280 it's covered. I feel like we covered it. Car comes and she doesn't 45 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:44,360 win and Michelle wins. Okay, we're done. Bye. Yeah. It's 46 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,120 interesting when these like like the dynamics in the house did not change, right, 47 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:51,000 we see that rape, Raven and Colleen are the same ones down there, 48 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,400 and it's sort of is like, of course, that's how that's gonna 49 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:55,919 be there's if nobody's going home, the dynamics in the house do not change. 50 00:03:55,919 --> 00:03:59,560 We're gonna see the keep seeing this over and over again. Well, 51 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:01,800 and so they kind of tried to pull a switcherrou on us at the beginning 52 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,479 of the episode because the very first person in the episode, I mean other 53 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,439 than them, like, yay, Raven's back. She did so good. 54 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,520 She beat Laurel, which there was a lot less I Beat Laurel talk than 55 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,639 I expected there to be. It started immediately with it, but James had 56 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:19,920 the very first talking head and he started going off about how he's now going 57 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,360 he has a huge target on his back and he's going to be up for 58 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:30,560 elimination next guaranteed U. But then it immediately switches over to Raven and she's 59 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:39,079 talking about how she's she beat the champ. Also, I mean I wasn't 60 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,920 here last week, but like with the Laurel elimination and then tonight with the 61 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:45,959 Car elimination, like we're all was anyone saying around being like, you know 62 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,199 what, I want to see those two women do an elimination a puzzle. 63 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,879 I realized that I got real heated the week that we had Drell in town. 64 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,720 But he falls into the same category of we have three people who would 65 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,160 kill it in the sand, and they gave us fucking puzzles for Laurel and 66 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,040 Carras. But like, Kara has never been good at puzzles, why would 67 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,279 you put her in a puzzle? I mean, she she won her solo 68 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:18,680 championship on auzzle against against Sack. Yeah, she only barely won Bloodlines because 69 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,959 of a puzzle. But I mean, we know we're gainst even won the 70 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:29,519 elimination against Johnny and what's his face, Vinnie Pig. She only barely won 71 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,959 that one, and it was a puzzle, and we know we're getingst Cet 72 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:34,680 later down the line. And he's really good at puzzles, doesn't mean we 73 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,319 want to see him do one Like No, No, one's like hoping he 74 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:42,040 comes in and does a soku. Yeah, they should have had the champs 75 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:46,600 recreate some of their best eliminations car like the car versus Naya one where she 76 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,000 just sort of dug into the ground and dug into the ground and ended up 77 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,639 beating Naya, who was much much, much bigger. Yeah. Well, 78 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,560 yeah, let's let's save this for the actual for a minute. We'll get 79 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,800 it back at the beginning of the episode, we get uh oh. We 80 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,959 also get an immediate like Michelle starting to talk about the feud between her and 81 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Laurel, which annoyed the fuck out of me because it's like, Laurel's not 82 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,600 here, You've already you've seen her. She's coming God, she's not coming 83 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:15,959 back. Why are we more? I've always been indifferent on Michelle. This 84 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:20,360 episode this week made me hate. I'm so over Michelle. There was a 85 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,920 lot of Queen Bee talk. Yeah, I'm going from neutral to dislike of 86 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,839 Michelle, and I'm going from like to dislike of Jay. This season's making 87 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:33,360 me hate everybody. Yep. And weirdly, I went a little bit dislike 88 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:39,120 to like for Corey because at least he owned how horrible he is. Yeah. 89 00:06:40,879 --> 00:06:44,800 Yeah, there's a lot of tide shifting talk. We get a Nourice 90 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,519 talking to her family conversation saying how she's dating someone in the house, and 91 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:56,439 then they start talking about how Olivia's been talking about her, which this maybe 92 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,040 this will come to fruition next episode, but there was nothing in it this 93 00:06:59,079 --> 00:07:01,560 episode. It's very weird. I had to go on the MTV Challenge subreddit 94 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,839 to even dig up like context about what the fuck they were even fighting about, 95 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,720 and apparently, and Zach, I don't know what you read, but 96 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:15,240 on the MTV Challenge subreddit, they're reporting that Anissa went to Nourice's brother and 97 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:23,240 told Nourice's brother that Olivia was talking all this shit. Super weird. This 98 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:26,759 is all super weird. Did Nourice like go on the podcast? How the 99 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,839 fuck does Anissa know? I don't know. I think Anissa's just putting her 100 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:33,680 nose and shit like she always does. I have no idea, Zach, 101 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:39,399 do you know anymore? That's that's literally all I know. No, I 102 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:42,920 mean, the way I gauge is I figured Anissa probably told her brother like, 103 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:46,000 oh, you know, like Olivia and I were together before she left 104 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,879 a film and she was talking all this shit about Nourice. But why would 105 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,480 Anissa do that? What is her motivation to go and talk shit about Nourice 106 00:07:54,519 --> 00:07:59,160 to her to Narsa's brother, Like, I don't know, Olivia did an 107 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,519 Instagram live last Angele's saying that, you know, like the day before she 108 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:05,800 left, Anissa like FaceTime turn was like, oh my gosh, I'm like 109 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:07,079 so excited for you, Like you're gonna kill it I'm gonna be rooting for 110 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,480 you. So she's like, I don't know why I needs would do this 111 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:15,800 because I thought we were good. Yeah, who knows, Kay says in 112 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:18,199 the chat room. And Nissa is too old to be like this. Okay, 113 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:22,399 none of us can judge a Nissa for doing that because we are currently 114 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:30,879 on a podcast and we're all near her age. Yeah, I yeah, 115 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,759 but it's also we're on a podcast that's where we're supposed to be true. 116 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,159 But she also, I mean, doesn't she still do the doesn't she still 117 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,159 do the challenge? But I mean, it is fucking weird that she called 118 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:46,120 her brother, But whatever, we can move on. Oh, Olivia and 119 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,879 Larsa talk and Olivia tells her that she feels like this is the second episode 120 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:52,600 that we've gotten this, that she feels like Karassi isn't spending enough time with 121 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:56,879 her, and she mentions that Karasi spends a lot of time with Zara, 122 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:03,480 and like, Naris, aren't you uncomfortable by that guys are allowed to have 123 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,679 female friends and vice versa? I don't. I don't understand why this is 124 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:11,000 a problem. This is all super high school ship. This is high school, 125 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:15,559 total high school ship. This entire house is full of high schoolers. 126 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:20,320 Yeah, that friend isn't talking to me like I think that friend should and 127 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,519 we're not friends now, please get the fuck over it. It's idiots. 128 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:30,879 It was weird, but he looks like, sh what was that? You 129 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:33,159 didn't tell me he was going to be on this season? What the fuck? 130 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:37,120 That is a little bit odd though, Like they were so close last 131 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,639 season, Like if he if she asked him and he like lied to her, 132 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,039 It's like, what's the purpose of that. I have a feeling that 133 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,840 it was probably more of like he just didn't bring it up and she never 134 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:54,200 asked, because we've seen we've seen how he asked acts with Nourice. They've 135 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,000 been dating, seeing each other whatever for a few weeks now and they only 136 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:03,480 just kissed the last episode. Like, if he's like that with a partner, 137 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,840 I can only imagine how he is how guarded he is with friends. 138 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,759 That's possible. Yeah, it's all weird, But Harassio is another one. 139 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:15,600 I went from really liking him to I just don't like him. I think 140 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,200 he looks he has no personality and it's super annoying. Yep, it now 141 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,200 seems very inauthentic. That's sort of like, yeah, holier than now, 142 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:26,679 good boy thing. It's like, yeah, I bought it last season. 143 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:31,279 I don't think I buy it now and now I think it's an act. 144 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:35,840 I like him just because I'm getting tired of this Michelle j super alliance, 145 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,639 and he's one of the ones that seems ready to make a move and flip 146 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,679 it upside down. I don't think that he is, though, like he's 147 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:46,039 he doesn't seem to have the I think Kyland is willing to do it. 148 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:50,080 Yeah, Kyland has been growing on me because he's willing to like actually do 149 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:58,360 something. But Harassio might. He might say things in his talking head and 150 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:01,120 he might like throw a name out there occasionally, but I don't think he 151 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:03,000 has the balls to back it up. I don't think that he would. 152 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,519 I don't think that he would actually do it, like start the no, 153 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:11,320 I'm I'm calling this person out. Everything we see from Rossio says he doesn't 154 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,320 want to rock the boat. He doesn't want to say a name that hasn't 155 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,039 been said. He'll vote with the majority just because what's the difference. Yeah, 156 00:11:18,279 --> 00:11:20,200 No, I agree. I don't think he's gonna be the one that 157 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,759 goes out there and like throws the name out or like flips it. But 158 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:26,000 I think if like Kylan gets the numbers and comes in and says Rossio, 159 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,200 I have the numbers to flip it, I think he's like, great, 160 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,159 I'm on board. Like if this is the new majority, I'm going with 161 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,639 you guys. Yeah, yeah, he's he's annoying me me too, But 162 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:43,240 whatever, we are already onto the challenge. Sorry I could have given you 163 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:52,480 more warning. The challenge is called We All Fall Down, Tim you want 164 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,159 to give us a rundown? Yeah? I kind of like this one. 165 00:11:56,159 --> 00:11:58,759 There's like a hanging wall in the middle of a platform. You push the 166 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:01,879 hanging wall to knock off another team. Do it in teams of four. 167 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:09,840 Kind of real simple, fun to watch, Like this is kind of easy 168 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:11,360 to like kind of wrap my head around, and there's no like weird shit. 169 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,320 There's you know, I don't know. I kind of liked all of 170 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,279 this. I like the drone shots were kind of cool. I don't know 171 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,600 that this was a good simple game. I liked this game too, and 172 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,960 it was I really liked that the wall was see through so you could see 173 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,720 what the other team was doing. I liked that there was a very definite 174 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:31,639 like this team lost and this team won and it wasn't based on time. 175 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,679 Yep, Yeah, I liked this one. It was also fun to like 176 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:39,080 see all how all of them would move, because some of the teams you 177 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,759 could see them all line up and push together and they moved kind of as 178 00:12:43,759 --> 00:12:48,840 a single unit. And then others you had people who were like constantly moving 179 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:52,240 around and like there were whoever, James's team, there's a point in time 180 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,840 where they were all yelling at him. Corey's team, they kept yelling at 181 00:12:54,919 --> 00:13:03,159 him. Tim tell that kid to go to fucking bed, Sally, go 182 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:15,519 to bed. I think this is definitely one of the better Daily challenges we've 183 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:22,120 had this season. Yeah, same, Yeah, I Sally, she can't 184 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:26,360 hear you, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to put it in bed. 185 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,679 I'll be back hopefully we'll see it if you. Yeah. I mean 186 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,480 it's overall. I was not thrilled with this episode, but this Daily I 187 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:41,879 really enjoyed. Daily was good. I liked seeing uh uh. I don't 188 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:45,720 know, maybe we're jumping ahead, but fucking Ed just manhandle people. Ye. 189 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,679 I love that. I love Ed too, Like he's one that my 190 00:13:52,759 --> 00:13:56,720 opinion of him hasn't changed. I really liked him the first time he showed 191 00:13:56,799 --> 00:14:00,960 up on this show as like as A as A replaced and I really like 192 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:05,240 him still, Like he's fun and he's boisterous, and he seems like he 193 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:11,039 would be a fun person to be around. And they haven't shown too much 194 00:14:11,039 --> 00:14:18,279 of him, which is true. Nice, but yeah, so we have, 195 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:22,519 oh we do. When they when they start this all off, they're 196 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:26,120 doing the thing of like the first two teams, they as you know, 197 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:28,240 you guys excited for this or how are you feeling about the challenge? How 198 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:31,960 are you feeling about your team? And Michelle is on a team with a 199 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:37,120 few people that she's not super thrilled to be on with, and she immediately 200 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,559 starts freaking out on all of them. She has a Michelle down, yep, 201 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,919 full Michelle down, and they're just there like, what the fuck is 202 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:48,279 wrong with you? Like, we haven't even gone up there yet. Why 203 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,159 do you think they get? Yeah, it's it's rather entertaining. Ultimately, 204 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:58,559 Haracio ed, Zara and Berna win and they are told that they have to 205 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:05,320 pick a woman. Everybody is Florida, Scott says, Berna and Zara we're 206 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,840 having a contest. You get their shorts farther up their ass. You're saying 207 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:13,639 that like a complaint, Scott, I'll have to go back and look, 208 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:20,279 I didn't notice we're talking about Tim since you just rejoined. We're talking about 209 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:24,000 Zara and Burna happened their shorts way up their ass. Oh yeah, I 210 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:30,919 didn't mind that. I didn't even notice. Well you're a woman, yeah, 211 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:37,440 if you if you didn't know that, really, surprise, surprise, 212 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:43,720 there are boobs down there. How about that. You're welcome for telling whoa 213 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:54,000 to be fair, there's boobs out in the mind too. Good point, 214 00:15:54,159 --> 00:16:00,639 good point. Uh yeah, So the Tracio ads and Berna win and they're 215 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:04,159 told they have to pick a woman. Everybody up there is completely floored because 216 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:07,440 they all thought that it was gonna be we just had They just had a 217 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,080 women's Day, and the last time they had a Women's Day, they had 218 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,240 a second Women's Day immediately, So it's been very, very female heavy with 219 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:22,000 the eliminations. Recently, they deliberate and Berne is pulling really hard to not 220 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,320 put Colleen in there again. She wants to put in Mariah or Raven and 221 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:33,919 everybody else out votes are and ultimately they picked Colleen, Yeah, which wasn't 222 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:38,320 surprising. I mean, I sad, I was sad that Colleen went in, 223 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,039 but I was happy to see Berna Knock get her way because Berna just 224 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:47,679 continues to annoy me every episode. Well Berna got her way anyway, because 225 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:49,559 she went in Raven right, and Raven was the other one. So it's 226 00:16:51,039 --> 00:16:52,679 I think we always knew it was gonna be Colleen and Raven again, like 227 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,279 it had to be. So it's kind of like, who cares if it's 228 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,919 the the winners nomination of the House vote? Who cares gonna be this? 229 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:06,400 To people? These House votes are the most boring pieces of ever. It's 230 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:08,680 just all of them. It really, all it us is. It serves 231 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,799 for them to dig themselves into a hole. That's it. It's been obvious 232 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,240 every nomination. The person even probably knows that it's them. So it's just, 233 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:22,079 yeah, it seems totally surperfus superfluous, that's the that's the word. 234 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,319 Yeah, Because we go back to the House and we have Colleen trying to 235 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,000 campaign to get Michelle in, and then we have Michelle and j talking to 236 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:33,400 As about Colleen's plan, and we have Olivia freaking out about Horasio's friendship Withzura. 237 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,559 Again, we have Olivia talking to Horassio, We're talking to Jay about 238 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:41,839 Harassio, and then we've got Kylan and Horassio talking about Jay, and it's 239 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,839 just it's a bunch of back and forth and all of it could have been 240 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,119 caught because none of it came to any fruition. Yep, do you have 241 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,000 something, Tim, No, gotcha. See Now, the problem is the 242 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:59,160 format of this section of the show causes the problem with these deliberations, because 243 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,160 if Colleen could very easily go in and be like, I want Michelle, 244 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:07,799 I got the deliberation. I want Michelle. Michelle is the one I want 245 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:11,200 to go in. Yeah, and everybody could use as an excuse to vote 246 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:15,759 Michelle in. But since they're not going head to head, it's like people 247 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:17,440 are like, oh, well, I don't want to do that because, 248 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:22,759 yeah, Michelle more likely will not end up in the elimination anyway. Yeah. 249 00:18:22,839 --> 00:18:26,759 The one thing that came out of this whole little like back and forth 250 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:30,680 everybody talking to each other back in the house thing was the Fantastic Four gets 251 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:36,960 brought up a bit quite a few times from like episodes ago. This is 252 00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:40,920 yet another one. How does no one know that Osiff is working with Jay 253 00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:45,200 and Michelle? People are dumb. I think people do know, and they 254 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,960 like we are constantly seeing scenes of them all sitting there talking, huddled together 255 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:55,119 talking. How do you not know? I think they do know. I 256 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,799 think it just has to Yeah, Scott says, nobody cares. I think 257 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:00,519 that's it. Nobody cares. I I don't think they do know, because 258 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:03,880 I would like to hope these people are smart enough if they knew that that, 259 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,240 they're not going to be openly discussing, you know, targeting Michelle and 260 00:19:07,319 --> 00:19:12,000 Jay in front of us off then yea later in this episode. Yeah, 261 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:18,559 well it happened earlier in this episode. Yeah, it's I don't think ASoft 262 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:22,240 has any pull in either way. He just votes with Jane Michelle. Yeah, 263 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:26,319 so they constantly votes with Jane Michelle. I'm so confused as to how 264 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:30,559 he's been able to hide that he's part of their alliance. Yeah. I 265 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:33,559 just think he's ineffective it. I just don't think people are threatened by it, 266 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:41,920 you know. Yeah, well we are onto deliberation. I don't say 267 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:49,240 my name, Ditch. Nothing exciting comes of this other other than Corey saying 268 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:56,680 that he's going to vote for Raven because he's a pussy. Oh and Raven 269 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,720 gets voted in. That's it. That's all that, That's all that came 270 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,079 out of. Yeah. Yeah, I's disappointed all this stuff we saw leading 271 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,920 up to this about like the people on the bottom realizing a change needs to 272 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,319 happen, of like, are we finally going to see them make the move 273 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,599 and then they're like, yeah, no, we're just all gonna go Raven. 274 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,799 I don't think we're going to see a move in this Chaos portion because 275 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,799 you know, there's whoever you throw down, they're almost definitely going to come 276 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:23,839 back. Like this is the first season I can remember where it's like less 277 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:27,079 than fifty percent chance that the person you throw in is is going to be 278 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,279 eliminated. Yeah, uh so it's very weird. Yeah, so people keep 279 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:33,960 saying the same names over and over like of course they are. They're not 280 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,960 going to make another new enemy that's probably going to come back. Yeah. 281 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:42,359 I really liked this. I liked how they were doing this at the very 282 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,440 first, like episode or two of Chaos, the episode with Jordan. I 283 00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:49,319 love that they had to pick that, you know, someone got picked and 284 00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:52,839 they had to pick a name and it could be one of the two of 285 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,839 them, or could be this weird other thing. And then the second episode 286 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,480 when Chaos actually showed up, like sweet, this could be really cool, 287 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:03,240 and ever since then it's just been absolute shit. Yeah, it feels like 288 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,359 a lot of the complaints that I have about this season are production, Like 289 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:11,799 the games are stupid and shitty, the rules kind of suck. The rules 290 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:15,039 may are sort of set up to make this not and they're very They could 291 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:19,240 have tweaked things just slightly and it would make it so much better. Yeah, 292 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,400 the number one thing would be in the elimination if they put them in 293 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:33,440 eliminations that actually benefited the fucking challenge or the mercenaries. Yeah, and somebody 294 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:37,079 should go home every episode. Yeah, somebody should go home every episode. 295 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,880 Like, it seems silly that I have to say that, but that's how 296 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,559 the show works. Yep, We're already in an elimination. Hold on, 297 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:52,119 So they go into elimination, the mercenary comes out, pulls the pulls the 298 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,720 hammer or whatever, and so they pulled the name and they face off with 299 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:02,400 that person. So then if the mercenary wins, that person goes home. 300 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:10,240 If the mercenary loses, the other person goes home. So what happens if 301 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,480 they pull chaos and the person from chaos wins, they get to pick whoever 302 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,200 they want they get, They get to pick whoever they want to go home. 303 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,759 Yes, I like that. There you go. Do you actually like 304 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:26,720 that? People would be up in arms, but I don't. Here, 305 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:30,960 I think that's fun. Mtd us people would be like, oh, but 306 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,119 that's not a lot of power to have. Uh huh So yeah, I 307 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:45,000 think that. Yeah, uh, this may be the shortest episode ever. 308 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:48,839 Well, I have a feeling that I have a feeling that this right here 309 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:56,000 is going to be real long. That's what said say. Uh, we 310 00:22:56,079 --> 00:23:00,319 get one of my favorite players of this entire game. She has had some 311 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,599 real shitty seasons. She's dating a due that none of us like, but 312 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:11,480 I'll forever love her. Tara Maria comes out. I am so fucking excited 313 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:17,400 to see her come back. Me too, Carlyn, me too. Gods, 314 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,200 she was in a great mood and she looks fucking good. Last couple 315 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,920 of seasons we saw her, she was not. I think. No, 316 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,920 she looks like she's kind of gotten her ship back together. I don't know 317 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,759 how quickly that would crumble if she came back to the show, But it 318 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,039 was so good to see her. Yeah, it was really good to see 319 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:41,160 her come out. I have a complicated past with car Maria. She was 320 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:45,000 my favorite challenger of all time. I had the biggest crush on her. 321 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,400 And then yeah, about the time of Dirty thirty or Vendettas at change, 322 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,119 she just turned entitled and weird and I don't know, but now this was 323 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,920 like I saw the old car. She was smiling, she had that fire 324 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,960 in her she was in loved it. I did too. It was really 325 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:06,000 nice to see her again. Yeah, Tim, Tim loved porn pirate Maria. 326 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,200 I did. She came out. She came out full porn pirate hair. 327 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,599 Yes, she did. Cutthroat car Maria is the most beautiful woman of 328 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:22,440 all time. Yeah, she's that smile unbelievable. Yeah, we learned something 329 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:29,359 that I did not know. Car Maria is TJ's favorite challenger. He said 330 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,160 that. I was like, that's that is some serious praise right there. 331 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,279 She has had fourteen seasons. She has made it to nine finals. I 332 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,279 don't know that they actually said it, but I think she only has two 333 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:48,039 wins, right, Yeah, yes, but she has been in nineteen eliminations 334 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:53,240 and she has won thirteen of them. She's got a fucking killer record. 335 00:24:53,680 --> 00:25:02,720 She has been thrown in so many times, which is a point of contention. 336 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,240 Yeah, she finds out that Colleen and Raven are the ones who keep 337 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:12,359 getting put in. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I want to give you 338 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,079 guys a night off. Then yeah, TJ. TJ kind of gives her 339 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,680 the quick rundown. You know, you if you win, you get ten 340 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,680 grand and you send someone home. If they win, Uh, they could 341 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,960 keep the ten grand and the person stays. There are three things that you 342 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,079 can pull in the draw, and one of them has There are two that 343 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,519 each have the names of the two people down here, and there's one that 344 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:40,319 is the chaos Mace. Who thinks there was three chaos maces down there? 345 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,519 Percent think there are three chaos maces. I think either that or production tells 346 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:47,359 them. Yeah it was. It was one of the two. There was 347 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,319 no way that she didn't know. I don't think there's three of them there, 348 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,680 of course you don't. Do you think someone told her? I don't 349 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,640 know. I feel like the legal team would be staying there being like nope, 350 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,319 Nope, that's gonna influence the outcome directly, like we could get sued 351 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:07,359 for that. You know, I feel like I feel like you you put 352 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:15,359 too much stuck in this legal team that they have. Yeah, she he 353 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,519 says, and without me ado, without any more ado, please pick your 354 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,119 your thing in the draw. And she was, well, t J, 355 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:30,640 can I have some further ado? And she just starts talking ship, which 356 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:37,599 would have been really awesome if she had won it. And apparently she talked 357 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,079 a lot more ship than we saw, like a lot of it. They 358 00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:44,119 all deserve it. Yeah, a lot of cats came on Twitter and said, 359 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,880 oh, like she was just dragging us no stop, which is they 360 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,440 said, plays a big and they said, I played a big factor in 361 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,240 why you see so many people supporting Michelle in the elimination. They were all 362 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:02,039 gonna support Michelle anyway. That's some bullshit if they're blaming it on that. 363 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,960 There is no way that they were going to support Carl Maria. They wanted 364 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,119 to keep Michelle around, they wanted to keep the ten grand Like, no 365 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,279 fucking way that they were going to ever support her. Yep, I agree. 366 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,160 I think these people are insane for rooting for Michelle even like get everybody 367 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,599 out, Like, get every whoever you can get out of the game. 368 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:22,519 You should be trying to get him out right now, Like, yeah, 369 00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,880 you might be losing ten grand out of the pot, but get other people 370 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,720 at it. Get Michelle is a strong player right now, get her out 371 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,359 of the fucking game. Yep, this is your perfect time to do that. 372 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:36,920 Switch up. Get some people over on car inside to help her win. 373 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,599 Yeah, Which I still don't understand how Michelle is a strong person. 374 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,279 I don't either making sense to me. What is happening? Well, And 375 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,519 like I didn't realize until this episode when they brought it up a few times, 376 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:55,519 she had not been into elimination once until now, and she hasn't done 377 00:27:55,519 --> 00:28:00,559 well in any of the dailies. So as to how she's leading the house 378 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,920 is kind of bizarre. I mean, she wants which is great, but 379 00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:10,720 she hasn't won Jack on the challenge yeah, I mean Survivors. Yeah, 380 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,359 that's all about the social mental game. You don't need to be strong in 381 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:18,279 the challenges to succeed there. But I did love it, we thought earlier 382 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,039 Kylin kind of called her out, being like I had Michelle's back because all 383 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:23,680 the girls I really care about it and you could smoke her in the final 384 00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:33,079 Yeah, I did appreciate that, but yeah, yes, anyway, Kara 385 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,559 does say at one point she's talking everybody up on the up on the board 386 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,880 or up on the stands, saying, okay, well, if I picked 387 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,359 the chaos Mace, she kind of pulls a Devin says, if I picked 388 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,599 the Chaos Mace, who should I pick? And she calls Michelle first, 389 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,279 but she doesn't say Michelle. She calls her her. She calls her orange 390 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:56,039 shirt. Look to this, this is a classic tid move, yied. 391 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,599 She picked that one up from men. I don't know your name, so 392 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:04,079 I'm just going to find some characteristic, probably not flattering, to call you 393 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:08,119 a orange shirt. It made me really happy when she did that, because 394 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:11,400 I knew that that just needled the fuck out of Michelle. She was pissed, 395 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:18,799 of course, to your name. And Michelle doesn't give her a name 396 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,200 and kind of waffles with what she's gonna say, and Carra immediately goes, 397 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,000 I don't like to throw names out. Yeah, she was okay, cool, 398 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,119 then you're coming down, like, if you're not giving me a name, 399 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,000 then obviously you want to be down here. Which is fantastic because it's 400 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:36,920 what we've all said multiple times. Maybe not that they want to be down 401 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,880 there, but if you're not going to give a name, then they should 402 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:45,559 absolutely be calling yours. Yeah. So yeah, in retrospect, all of 403 00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:52,359 this is yeah. Well, Carra finally finally pulls from the draw and she 404 00:29:52,440 --> 00:30:00,880 gets the Chaos mace and immediately calls down Orange Shirt aka Michelle. She looked 405 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:06,519 mortified to Michelle when she pulled the Max, just no expression, just blank 406 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:15,680 face. Yeah. Oh man, Colleen and Raven fucking stoked and down Yeah. 407 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,359 Oh I love that. It was great, Like it really was, 408 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,759 Like Kara did do a really good job. I'm kind of telling them, 409 00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:23,720 like I have been in your position more times than I can count. I 410 00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:30,720 have been called down here consistently every season I have ever been on, and 411 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,200 so I get it. So if I pull the Chaos Mace, You're definitely 412 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,880 not going to be here, which I loved, Like it was nice to 413 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,359 see that. Yeah, It's always shocking when these vets come in at the 414 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,920 end, because this is like, this is who we were waiting for, 415 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,319 this is this is the only part of the season where I'm engaged at all. 416 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,680 Yeah, it's just it's when these legends come back and they just show 417 00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:55,640 up and they they dominate the screen and they just take it over. The 418 00:30:55,759 --> 00:31:00,000 unfortunate part is so far the only one that we have seen that is truely 419 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,519 dominated the screen with Jordan. He started this shit off on a fucking high 420 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:08,319 note. It was such a god. I came out of that episode on 421 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:14,200 such a high. I was so excited about the rest of these mercenaries, 422 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:22,720 so excited. Yep, and it has just been bullshit since then. Well, 423 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,519 I mean they've lost forty grands, so true. Yep, they've lost 424 00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:32,960 some players. But it's yeah, they should have brought back classic eliminations for 425 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,079 these legends, eliminations that the legends have won or are good at, and 426 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,839 headbangers that are fun to watch and fun to root for. Somebody. This 427 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,640 is a puzzle. It's like, it's not head to head. They're not 428 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,880 battling each other. They're just seeing who can do it faster. Not interested. 429 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,119 I don't care. This is not fun to watch. It's the third 430 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,440 week in a row where so the game real quick is called blockhead. There 431 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:59,200 are nine giant cubes out in the arena that are really heavy that the girls. 432 00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:04,200 The ladies have to flip and roll and tumble over onto these squares and 433 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,960 put them in a certain order because they have a puzzle on the top that 434 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,960 they have to show a picture. This is the third week in a row 435 00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:17,480 that we have gotten a serious physical competitor and they have been given a fucking 436 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:27,400 puzzle. Yep, kind of lame. They have wasted three amazing physical competitors 437 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:30,319 on puzzles. Yeah, and I'm really worried they're going to do it to 438 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:36,839 Brad and CT. Yeah. At least CT is known for being good at 439 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,680 puzzles. Yeah, but we don't want to see him do a puzzle. 440 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,920 We want to see him he want to see him in a hall brawl is 441 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,319 what we really want. I mean, I want to see him in the 442 00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:46,720 backpack. I know, you guys say what happened, but bring back the 443 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:53,039 backpack. I mean I would be the only one that I would be okay. 444 00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:57,119 The only puzzle I would be okay with CT doing is not so fast. 445 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,559 And that's just because he's it's fun and watching him do not so fast. 446 00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:05,279 But I don't want to see him do not so fast in this game. 447 00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,640 I want to see him in a fucking headbanger in this game. Yeah, 448 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:14,200 well we've seen the previews. Somebody does a haul brawl. I don't 449 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,519 know if it's or if it's going to be in conquests or whatever the next 450 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:29,279 oh okay is it also looks like a lame another one. They have to 451 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,240 use the mats in front of them to push each other. I you know 452 00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:35,720 what I think it is. I kind of feel like, because we were 453 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:43,240 talking about this in the USA season when it was on CBS, they they 454 00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:49,440 put childproofing on all of the channel, all of the headbangers. Yea. 455 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,279 And I really do wonder if CBS has gotten to MTV and that's why they've 456 00:33:54,319 --> 00:34:00,880 given all of these puzzles rather than doing headbangers to tell that kid to go 457 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:10,880 to fucking bed Jesus. Yeah, so I don't know the puzzle thing. 458 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,960 At first, I was kind of excited because Michelle looked like she was gassing 459 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,199 out. Yeah, I was like, oh, Car may have this Car 460 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:28,119 was doing like straight up like Jordan type ship where Michelle struggling to get this 461 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,679 block and Carl Maria moves her block and just puts it right in front of 462 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:38,400 her. She and Car just manhandled those those blocks, just straight have walked 463 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,679 over to him, pushed him over, like they weighed three pounds. Yeah, 464 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:49,800 so I was really hoping I ended up. Yeah, tell me, 465 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,840 I'm trying. I'm trying. Give me a minute. Yeah, it's just 466 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,920 I appreciated the car. At one point in time, calls herself chaos Maria. 467 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,360 I thought that was funny. It's gonna be my quote for the end 468 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,920 of the episode. I'm sorry there you umm, but I mean it just 469 00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:15,320 yeah. My only notes for this were, what the fuck is this giant 470 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,880 puzzle ship? Why are they doing yet again a puzzle for an in the 471 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,880 sand champ? We do get, miss we get, do get people saying 472 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,719 that Michelle like Michelle saying that puzzles are her thing, and someone says that 473 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,239 people call Michelle the puzzle queen. Do they like since since when? Like, 474 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:42,360 I don't think that you qualify as a puzzle queen until you have, 475 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:50,480 honestly, until you've done puzzles like Sarah and Susie and some of these some 476 00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:52,599 of these women. You don't get to be a puzzle queen until you have 477 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,679 reached that kind of level. Well, so Kay wants to know, Zach, 478 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:05,480 what did you think of it? Kind of quiet. I thought the 479 00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:09,960 challenge was extremely dumb, you know. I just the elimination. Yeah, 480 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,360 the elimination, Like I just thought like, yeah, it's a waste of 481 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,519 Kara, Like you're saying, the waste of all those people. Darrell is 482 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,840 like, I mean, Darrell, I'm good with whatever. Like when I 483 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,079 think of him, I don't think of him as like, you know, 484 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,519 one of the most premier physical athletes. But uh, but I mean he's 485 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:31,880 he's I expected his to be a like a pole wrestler or something like that. 486 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,440 Yeah, I could expect him to put him on a fucking movable platform 487 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:50,880 with light candles. There were sparklers, there was yeh. But but yeah, 488 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,320 having a puzzle, especially in a situation like this where you know so 489 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,039 many other people can jump in and help, and we see that on the 490 00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,480 show all the time. So it's like, yeah, get sit there and 491 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:01,480 be like, well that's not fair because they would do it all the time. 492 00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:06,199 But I mean, I I was talking with some friends earlier. They're 493 00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:08,519 like, oh, I actually a lot of keep online saying like there's an 494 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:13,079 asterisk connect to Michelle's win, and like hired me is like, well that's 495 00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:16,960 not true. I was like yeah, kind of because she went against something 496 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,559 car is not strong at and it was basically getting sixteen Yeah, find a 497 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:28,159 Windows XP you sound like a robot. Find a windows. It's hard to 498 00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:38,440 hear better. Yes, that's fair. Okay. Yeah. I saw a 499 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:45,000 few things online before I before the pod today and it sounds like it looks 500 00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:49,480 like a lot of people are real pissed that yet again we got another fucking 501 00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:53,280 puzzle. Yeah, at least there was a strength component to this one. 502 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,880 It was fun watching cars launch those blocks around. Yeah, it was, 503 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,599 but I wanted it to be like she's the launch blocks around and then like 504 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,440 beat the shit out of Michelle or something. Yeah. No, it was 505 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,199 the Kara is not good at puzzles. She has never been good at puzzles. 506 00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:12,800 Yeah, and she had some strategies to put that block in front of 507 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,199 Michelle's block. That was smart, but she needed to be She needed to 508 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,440 sort of like pre plan how the puzzle was gonna be laid out and it 509 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,280 I know Michelle got help, but we saw her do that. She was 510 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,000 like, I need this part that's like rounded on the top and with the 511 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:28,000 whatever, and then she found the right piece and brought it over. It 512 00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,719 seemed like she just had a better strategy. And I think Michelle's wind does 513 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,280 count. It does. I don't think there's an asterisk there. I don't 514 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,519 really care anything this season. I'm like, yeah, sure, it all 515 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:40,960 counts. I don't give a shit. Yeah, I mean I think I 516 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,840 think it counts a little bit more than the win last week against Laurel, 517 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:50,960 but it's still it's still a fucking puzzle. And I just don't like I 518 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:53,519 really don't like Michelle and don't want to give it to her. But if 519 00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:58,320 it was Michelle versus any other any other of the people that were on this 520 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,679 season, you wouldn't take that went away from her, right, it's it's 521 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,239 elimination. It counts. Yeah, But I also wouldn't take last week's win 522 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,119 away from anybody else on this season if it were against anybody else. Yeah, 523 00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:15,480 it's just that the Vets talents are wasted. Yes, absolutely, It's 524 00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:22,639 just fucking bullshit. It's so frustrating. M Yeah. Scott brings up in 525 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,119 the chat room that the fact that they carried Michelle off on their shoulders made 526 00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:30,360 him gag. Same here, dude, same here. I could not believe 527 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:37,280 that we watched that. Kate brings up. They should have they should have 528 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,639 done balls in. Yeah, that's what we haven't seen it for a while. 529 00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:45,559 That would have been great. Car broke her fucking hand in that one. 530 00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:47,920 Well she played it with a broken hand. I think, right, 531 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,480 she broke it. That's how she broke it. So, Alison, I 532 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:58,400 just watched Free Agents this weekend, and uh, I think about earlier because 533 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,000 when you're saying that, like car you know it's only lost, like was 534 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,960 it four eliminations five, it's like, well, one of those she lost 535 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,079 because she had a broken hand against Laurel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 536 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:15,480 and she even won the elimination that she competed in where she broke her hand. 537 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:23,239 Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's really unfortunate to watch these just 538 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:31,440 absolute beasts go and get completely just completely wasted on the channel on the elimination 539 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:37,400 they go in. It's just it's super frustrating. Carlo's got her head back 540 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:43,599 on her chair. She's so responded. Yes, ah, there's so much 541 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:51,920 emotion in me. This season. Well, as far as we know, 542 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,239 we only got two champs left and that's Brand and Cete. Yeah, and 543 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,280 we know they're saving for last two. Of course, what do we want 544 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:06,920 CT to go up against us off and rip his fucking head off. I'm 545 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,280 going to see him go against j and Ri. It's going to be a 546 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,719 rematch, rematch, I would love that. Seemed like they were selling that 547 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,039 pretty hard earlier this season. Yeah, because they're selling it. I don't 548 00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:20,960 think it's going to happen. I think it could be fun to see him 549 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:28,679 go against Kyland. Yeah, the James. I was trying to remember James's 550 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,519 name. I was gonna say the gas out. James totally would gass out. 551 00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:37,639 But that'd be satisfying to see C T C T do the train like 552 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,440 I mean, if it's if it's physical, he's going to do the train 553 00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:51,559 anyway, I hope. So I'm pumped screen coming through the station. Lara 554 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,679 Carra's Boston accent came out real heavy this episode. Yes, a few times 555 00:41:55,679 --> 00:42:01,119 I was like, CT, is that you? I wonder why that is? 556 00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:04,800 I wonder what brought that out? I heard this time around. I 557 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,119 noticed it too. I don't know, Maybe she's just spent more time back 558 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:13,760 back there. Yea yeah, uh Tam. Are you excited to see Brad? 559 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:20,000 Always love Brad. Gotta get those crazy eyes out of his head. 560 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:22,360 Well, Brad is so fun to watch. He's just one of these guys 561 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,920 that like, he finds these really clever, weird ways to win these eliminations, 562 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,320 and I'm always excited to see how he how he pulls it out. 563 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,679 He's like a Jordan in that way. He sees it a little differently and 564 00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:37,719 he just, yeah, he executes differently. He beat only dude to beat 565 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:45,239 Land and Land and and ct and eliminations, just saying yeah, yeah, 566 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,480 I think that'll be fun to just because he's if he's still as huge as 567 00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:57,960 he has been in previous seasons, it'll be fun to see him come out. 568 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,400 What am I gonna do? I bet he will, but he's all 569 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,559 roided up. I'm sure he's differently because his eyes are so good. That's 570 00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:12,199 right, it's just hid an advantage. 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Uh, yes, we do. 580 00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:59,440 Zach, get ready to defend yourself? Zach uh from cash Age says 581 00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,239 Zach needs to cool it on the Josh Talk. Zach saying Josh carried his 582 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,519 team in Reindeer Games. Brig brother is a joke. The women carried Josh 583 00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:10,280 on that team. Someone needs to muzzle Zach if he if he raves about 584 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:14,719 Josh again, but still give us five stars. So thank you, kash, 585 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:19,440 thank you for the five stars. Zach, defend yourself. What was 586 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:28,280 that person's name again, kash Age. They need to someone say that, 587 00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:34,280 Yeah, Josh, Josh is a meebal, Josh is amazing, Like, 588 00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:37,239 get on his level. I'm sorry that you can't recognize greatness when you say 589 00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:47,760 this level is the floor boom roasted? Yeah, but still social media STI 590 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,199 not to a lot. We had. We had this stuff earlier that Tim 591 00:44:53,239 --> 00:45:00,639 and I brought up about the Anissa drama. Apparently Jordan was saying some stuff 592 00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:04,159 about, you know, like defending Carl Maria, and I want to see 593 00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:07,880 what it was. And it appears like I think Carl Maria deleted her Twitter 594 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,159 and Jordan got banned off Twitter. So I don't know what's going on there. 595 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,880 Jordan got banned from Twitter. I think I went to it as a 596 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,559 Twitter no longer exists. I don't know how someone can get banned. Well, 597 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,840 X fuck Elon Musk if he's banning my boy Jordan this platform. I 598 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,920 mean he let he let Trump back on. So yeah, I know, 599 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:37,360 like a five hours ago, someone posted on Reddit a picture from him, 600 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:45,800 and I know, I want if that's from his instagram. But what was 601 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,679 that? So I wonder if it's from his instagram. People are no, 602 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,760 Yeah, that's pretty much all social media is. It's been a quiet week 603 00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:07,880 on social media, clearly, Zach said Martin, all right, do we 604 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,159 have anything else? Alright? Wrap this shut up? Forty five minutes him 605 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,119 not the shortest episode ever, but still pretty quick, close, close, 606 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,519 all right, all right, I guess that's it for this episode of Challenge. 607 00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:29,519 Brian car big Ugle, sweet Teach, I agree, Carlin san Zacue 608 00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:47,920 Bananas and his Carus said, chaos Maria is in the arena charlie Cha