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In your view, do you think
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it's like just a joke. What
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staff of the of the Chairman of
the Committee, And I thought, how

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do you make any progress when this
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We're not serious. Rhetoric is often
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Well. Then to another edition of
the Chicks on the Right podcast.

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We're doing a deep dive today with
Matt Lohmeyer, who was an Air Force

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Academy grad from two thousand and six, a former T thirty eight and F

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fifteen pilot, former lieutenant colonel commander
in the Space Force, and also the

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author of a book whose title I
need to read because I could not memorize

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it, the twenty twenty book called
Irresistible Revolution, Marxism, Goal of Conquest

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and Unmaking of the American Military.
Thank you so much, first of all

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for being with us. We appreciate
it. You sure, and we got

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to know you because we played a
couple of clips of you for our audience

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on our morning show when you recently
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d E I and wokeism, uh, kind of infiltrating our military, which

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is a topic that Daisy and I
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many many times on our show.
So you you, you said some

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But your story begins obvious with distinguished
service in the military and then an abrupt

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departure, which we want to understand
the details about because it seems very unfair

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the circumstances around you're being released from
command. Can you walk us through that

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story? Yeah, let me try
and hit some highlights. Thanks for having

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me join you. And I don't
do a good job with self promotion,

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which is probably why a lot of
people in the country wouldn't have heard of

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me. I'm not offended in the
least about that, but let me try

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and hit some highlights. Feel free
to interrupt me if it's useful. As

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you mentioned, after I left the
Air Force Academy, I was flying jets

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for the Air Force, and then
later went into the Space Force, and

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on the whole, there was no
overt politicization of the military workplace during the

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entire time I served in the military. It didn't matter what your political worldview

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was. That was kind of private. You went and voted if you wanted

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to or not. Whatever your religious
worldview was might have been known to your

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friends, that wasn't discussed in the
workplace. Didn't matter what your race was,

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your socioeconomic makeup background, because they
gave everyone the same ugly haircut in

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the same beautiful uniform, and you
all saluted the same flag, and you

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swore the same oaths to defend the
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and so whatever your mission was in
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happen to be serving in that's what
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come You can trace a line in
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I understand that. But when George
Floyd died and we saw riots and activism

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seizing upon the country in the spring
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same cultural revolutionary, spiritual impulse that
we saw in the media that was taking

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place across country was also happening in
our military. And we had had a

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small minority of left wing activists who
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and also the youngest of the people
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to push certain very very hyper political
talking points that were anti American, that

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were demonizing our founders, that were
demonizing the Constitution of all things Totally.

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That's not acceptable in my view anywhere
in this country. But we allow people

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the freedom to do that. But
it's illegal in the military workplace, and

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at the time Donald Trump was president, and it's illegal for a service member.

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It's against the Uniform Code of Military
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publicly criticize their commander in chief,
and that was happening in uniform and so

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I tried to and here's where we
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and then I'll take a pause.
I tried to explain what I was seeing

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by overt politicization to my chain of
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well as all the way up the
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in charge of the Space Force,
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on the phone with him and talked
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member of the Joint Chiefs. Every
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Chiefs. The response I received was
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a big problem, and they seemed
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So I filed a formal written complaint. And there's reasons why they felt powerless

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to do something about it, but
that's besides the point for net for now.

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I filed a formal written complaint with
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detailing Marxist critical race theory that was
being taught, how it was dividing the

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troops, it was leading people to
want to leave the service, as hurting

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our recruiting efforts, so on and
so forth. That was dismissed after Joe

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Biden. They sat on that for
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office, that was dismissed. And
so I wrote a book, the book

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that you've mentioned, Irresistible Revolution,
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one, and I was fired from
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Not because of the content of the
book per se, but because senior

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leaders were so afraid that someone they
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that was that people would listen to, had written a book about you know,

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about Marxism and about the left politics. And it wasn't meant to be

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overtly partisan. It was meant to
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the military workplace by eliminating partisanship and
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the military workplace and do their mission. So I was fired. I've been

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speaking around the country for the past
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why, ultimately, finally I was
asked to come and testify in Congress about

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you know, what impact have I
seen in the last couple of years since

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writing this book, and it's not
gotten any better. So you said you

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were fired, Like I mean like
fired from the military, like no benefits?

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Is that what happened to you?
Like just because you had a glowing

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record in the military, and they
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go now because you wrote this book, Like I just it's astounding good.

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Don't understand the process. How did
they just writ How do they do that?

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Well, A couple of different things
to understand. I guess I did

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have a good record, And in
fact, in lead up to my congressional

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testimony, I shared a number of
things with the subcommittee that had invited me

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to join them for the testimony,
and one of those things was the summary

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of my military record, and they
posted that online. I didn't know that

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was going to happen. I wasn't
trying to get my military record in the

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public, but they the night before
the hearing, they posted not only my

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submission of a written opening statement and
hundreds of over one hundred pages of substantiating

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attachments, but they posted my military
record and people were retweeting that, I

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don't know how you say it these
days, re exing that they were sending

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it up on next and so it
was a little uncomfortable. I didn't intend

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for that to be public, but
it's good. I was the number one

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officer in the Space Force of my
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lieutenant colonel. And so, to
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in command as a lieutenant colonel.
I was fired from my command, and

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so I was no longer in a
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I was still a lieutenant colonel in
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But that lasted for about three months. There was an ongoing investigation to determine

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if I had acted in some way
that was unauthorized, illegal, unethical,

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immoral, and I hadn't. I
hadn't at all, and I wasn't found

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guilty of anything. But at the
time, you know, they'd wrecked my

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reputation as a leader. They were
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that coordinated a story on military dot
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fired, saying that they had lost
their trust and confidence in my min my

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ability to lead. That's the same
thing they say about child predators, that's

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the same thing they say about drug
users. And it's like, well,

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how do you if they're not going
to specify the reasons for your firing.

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The only thing that the American people
know, and that now everyone in that

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branch of in all branches of the
military know about you, is that you

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are no longer trusted to lead people. Wow. So I requested something that

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is occasionally approved by Congress. It's
called TERRA. It's the early Retirement Authority.

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As long as you've had fifteen years
at least in service, you can

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technically, under certain circumstances, qualify
for an early retirement. It's a certain

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percentage of your full pension. And
I requested that I had senators, you

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know, Senator Tom Cotton and others
writing letters to the Secretary of the Air

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Force urging that they approved my early
retirement since they had wrecked my reputation,

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and they denied it. And so
I voluntarily separated without my pension. Because

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it was either stay in and keep
your mouth shut about what's going on,

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or get out and keep using your
voice to try and inform people about the

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woke revolution that's taking over the military. And so I chose to get out

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and do that. And I just
maybe someday, if Trump's back in office,

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you know, or someone who cares
about restoring the military, that you

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start to see a restitution for some
of these wrongs that have been done over

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the past. They just wanted you
to go away. They just wanted you,

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in the truth, to go away, which is so gross. What's

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too bad is that I had had
a really good relationship with the senior leaders

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in some of the senior leaders in
the Air Force, and especially with some

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of the senior leaders in the Space
Force. We respected each other, We

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didn't necessarily see things differently, but
out of fear, they wanted to make

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sure they stayed good with the regime. And that was all happened during the

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whole COVID nightmare also part of it. So because I haven't had the opportunity

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to to read your book yet,
but I'm wondering if that, I know,

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your focus was obviously Marxism and DEI
and that that kind of thing.

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Did did that come up in your
writing at all? Do you feel Because

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I remember Daisy and I talking a
lot about all these forced separations from the

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military from people who didn't want to
take the vaccine, and now it's just

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I look at you and I and
I think about all of those service folks

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who were forced essentially to get out
because they wanted to stick by their convictions.

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And I think those are exactly the
kinds of people that we need in

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the military right and now, like
and I'm just looking what a waste of

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you. I mean, not that
you're what you're doing now is not important.

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But when I wait about it,
you know, but you know what

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she means, like we know what
right, you know what she means.

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It's because I can't believe that you
are not You're not able, that they

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prevented you from being able to serve, and you're exactly who we want.

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You're the poster boy for who we
want. You want strong people. Think

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about this. If you care about
military strength, if you care about lethality,

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if you care about readiness, if
you care about winning or deterring wars,

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you want strong men first and foremost. Right, exam words about this.

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You want you want strong men,
and ideally and common sensically, they

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will love their country and be willing
to die for it. Everything that the

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DEI industry is seeking to do is
demonize men. It's criticism of Western civilization,

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demonization of our founders in this country. And you have you have people

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on both sides. This is the
interesting part. There are people on both

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sides of the political aisle who hate
what they're hearing, and so it disincentivizes

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their service to the country. If
they're let's say they're conservative, and they

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don't buy into it, they know
better and they think it's all propaganda,

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they don't want to serve in a
military that's pushing that narrative. First off,

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if they're Christian and conservative, let's
say, and they refuse to because

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it's against their conscience to take the
COVID shot, they push them out because

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they're not politically compliant. But on
the other hand, if you're leftist and

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roughly speaking, let's say even and
you like what you're being taught about the

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evils of the country, and you
like that you're being taught that it's not

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redeemable, it's it's systemically racist.
It's anymore. It is evil, frankly,

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and we need to return to something
that was far more lovely. But

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if you're buying into all of that, that also disincentivizes the service. Why

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would you be willing to lay your
leftist neck on the line for an irredeemably

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racist country when you can join the
revolution right against Yeah? Right, yeah?

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Do you still have, like I
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how that works in the military.
Do you still have people who are kind

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of on your I guess on your
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how to say it, but that
are still in the military that you have

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contact with, and do they do
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like to be in the military right
now. It's a good It's good that

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you bring this up, because the
people I talk to most often are the

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ones feeding me information about what's going
on currently. They send me emails or

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text messages with policy memorandums that are
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But it's important to point out also
that I've got peers and others that

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are not my peers that are having
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and large, they're not burdened by
the stuff that we're talking about. I

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meet parents sometimes when I go out
and speak. They say, my son's

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in the Navy. He's been in
for four years, and I told him

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I was coming to listen to you
speak, and he says, I don't

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know what he's talking about. And
my response to those people, you know,

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my initial impulse is like, well, he needs to wake the hell

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up. But my other response is
it's what I give them, is I

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say, I'm glad he's having a
good experience, because I genuinely think,

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you know what, like maybe his
unit is largely unimpacted so far by the

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activism, and maybe the job that
that person and does has has allowed for

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an environment that this isn't like,
this isn't a common weekly or monthly talking

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point or training session. Maybe they
do a one annual DEI training that they

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check the box on and they move
on. But it's kind of like you

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in a decent school, like my
daughter is in public school, and it's

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like being in a decent school like
here in Texas, but like the Department

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of Education as a whole is a
huge freaking mess. It's a big poble.

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So and so yeah, I mean, you can be lucky in a

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pocket, but perhaps the whole thing
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are still in there and they're like, we're in trouble, you know,

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yeah, I still talk to those
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have examples that start to just filter
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a constant thing. And I've to
be quite honest with you, what decent

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person doesn't want to escape the ugliness
of the present mond and to focus on

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that which is lovely and beautiful and
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whatever your faith is, and and
your family and all of that stuff.

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And I've wanted so much to just
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just I'm reading The Lord of the
Rings for the first time in my life.

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I've watched the movies. I'm a
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much fiction, and so I'm reading
The Lord of the Rings. I'm reading

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about the Shire and the Hobbit and
and these Hobbits, and I just can,

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like hear the music from the movies
playing, and I think, like,

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I want, I want to go
live in the Shire, and I

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want to have nice people around me
who don't want government involvement in their life.

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And they're strong and they do they
pursue what they're passionate about, and

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the pursuit of happiness. That's what
the like. In one very real,

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tangible sense, the greatness of the
American ideal was that through a virtuous limited

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government, which virtue the virtue part
can't last for very long. I should

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say, limited government that you're filling
by elections and for purposes of representation with

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a decent and religious and moral people
allows for the citizen their life and their

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liberty and the pursuit of happiness,
which is like, figure out what God's

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will is for you and go pursue
it, you know, and do that,

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and tend to your garden, and
tend to your family relationships, and

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get involved in political office in the
local school system if you'd like. But

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we are constantly burdened by the impositions
of an unjust government at the state in

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the federal level. Now yea,
So how do you do anything else but

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continue to get roped into the dialogue? So you know how I've been like

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You're, oh, my gosh,
I cannot stop against do it right

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now? It's crazy? Yeah,
hey that stop. Don't even know who

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you are, but yes, and
it's like they knew, because it's like

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they've been listening to me and they
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what we should We should start a subscription

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I mean, because it sounds like, at least from what I've read,

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that you. It wasn't like you
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and all being sneaky about it.
You you were very open about your concerns.

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You tried to go through the proper
channels. You did all the things,

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So did you when you started the
book? Then? Did you think

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to yourself, there's a risk that
I'm taking here, and you did it

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willingly and knowingly, or were you
as were you surprised by the consequences of

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writing that book. I would do
it again. I don't regret anything I've

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done. I'm I'm not interested in
doing some big thing unless I feel compelled

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that I'm obligated to do something like
that. I was happy to be a

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commander in the military. I would
do it again. I was distracted by

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the word that's on the black mug
over your shoulder. I was gonna say,

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what's that? What's that? What's
on your mug back there? Oh?

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That the yellow writing. It just
is my nickname, Mocka. It's

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not it's not that far. I
think you thought, why do you find

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this distracting? What on earth about
this shelf would you find distracting? Dogs?

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There's nothing distracting about It's on the
monkey's chest. I thought, sorry,

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says it, says mock on it. He's probably like, is there

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a naughty word on there? Yeah, no, no, no, no,

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I promise it's all on the up
and up. But were you surprised

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by what happened? Which, yeah, you were, so. I know.

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I considered every possible outcome. I
discussed that with my wife. We

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went into that with our eyes fully
open. However, I was still surprised

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at how things played out. For
example, my book was published in a

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week later, I'm being fired on
the phone by a three star general and

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my chain of command for alleged political
partisanship while acting in an official capacity,

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which is totally false, and for
publicly criticizing my chain of command. Those

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are the exact words that were used. That was totally false. I didn't

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do either of those things in my
book. Yeah, I had never either

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of those things in any public or
official capacity. And I was always very

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careful to make sure I was complimentary
of my chain of command, my senior

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leaders, although and frankly at that
time, they were deserving of my trust,

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respect, and even though they were
unfortunately incapable of deciding quickly and for

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themselves that we needed to take a
stand against what we now so easily refer

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to as wokeism. I thought,
these are good people. They've served the

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country for a very long time,
and I get that they don't want to

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get mixed up in the political fray. They want to go comfortably back to

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the shire and retirement, as we're
talking about they want, you know,

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they're at thirty years something years of
service and they're hoping this is a passing

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phase in American political life. It's
going to go away. And I didn't

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view it that way one bit.
I saw the writing on the wall.

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I studied how Marxist revolutions take place, and everything was mounting, and I

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see that this isn't going to change, and in fact, if we don't

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change course immediately, the consequences of
our current decisions will be difficult to unmake

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and undo over the next five and
ten years. So it has to be

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talked about, right And so yeah, I was surprised that they fired me

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quickly for false reasons, by the
way, but it was out of fear.

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And I was surprised that they refused
to approve my retirement, given the

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fact that they knew that they had
under false pretenses, fired me, and

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I don't regret any of that.
Could you sue him? How do it

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even work? And I think I
could have. I don't know what the

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statute statute of limitations is. I've
even considered it. Since then, it's

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been two and a half years.
You totally should. This may will be

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three years since I was fired.
But the time in which I was separating,

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the fall of twenty twenty one,
in which it was like the most

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it was the most sweet time to
sue. Yeah, I remember thinking I

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don't have a litigious soul, and
this is a hard time for my family,

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and I want to make our transition
to civilian life as easy as possible.

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And I end up in the news
cycle all over again. Yeah.

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But the fact that like I'm paying
for Bauci's pension and like all these benefits

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and like you don't get anything.
I like, I that makes me crazy,

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Like you shouldn't. It's mad,
It makes me crazy mad. Yeah,

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it's not right. Speaking of maddening, can we talk about that congressional

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hearing, Because you were you were
faced with some serious stupid and I there

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was that moment where where you rightly
lost your temper and you were like,

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you guys don't know what you're talking
about, and this is all bullshit,

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and I was like, yeah,
you go, and that's the clip that

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we ended up playing for our audience. So how first of all, I

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think was what two and a half
hours? I think that you were probably

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I think it was around that and
and you had your your few moments.

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that those hearings work, you know,

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I'm reclaiming my time or whatever it
is that they do to interrupt your thought

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process. My god. So but
after all that, because you know,

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so often we see these hearings where
there's amazing people like you giving testimony that's

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so important for the country, for
the world to hear, and then it's

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like we get all excited about what
was said and the impact of those words

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we know that they had on us, but doesn't do anything? Was there

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an outcome? Is there ever any
follow up? Like what was the Did

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that help anything? You know what
I mean? Or do you just feel

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super frustrated like we always do when
we watch those hearings. I felt frustrated

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going into the hearing because I wrestled
with that question. I thought, is

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this just political drama? You know, is this a play? You know,

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and everyone's up there playing politics,
and so I thought, use my

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time, well, prayerfully, sincerely, consider what it is that you need

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to convey, you know, as
a spokesperson for what you understand. Convey

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that, be honest in how you
answer questions, but try not to get

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overly emotional. And I told my
wife one of the greatest challenges I'm going

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to have in that room is not
getting emotional in my response, because I

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knew i'd have like my body temperature
go through the roof as I listened to

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the same way. And so I'm
sitting there listening to these guys, and

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I can see the hate like coming
off of some of the Democrats forces in

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that room. They totally unwilling.
It's like they want to preach to us

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about diversity right right, And they've
called another white male to sit right next

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to me who absolutely loathes my view. And it's like, here's the perfect

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proof right here at this table that
just because we look the same doesn't mean

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we think the same exactly. Oh
my gosh, right, you could have

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put up and in fact, what's
funny about that? Yeah, General General

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Tie Sigeley is his name. They
couldn't pronounce his name the whole time.

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He's got a funny name, but
Ti Siguly. He sat right next to

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me. We had a friendly in
exchange, he and I before the hearing.

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We had a friendly exchange after.
We were enemies during the hearing because

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we had a very different viewpoint to
talk about, and we look exactly the

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same, I mean kind of.
But after it's all over, there's a

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young black man who is sitting behind
me in the peanut gallery who worked for

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a certain organization. He came up
and introduced himself, I mean totally to

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the disproof of what they were saying
up there on the stand. He comes

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up and says, I agree with
everything you said. You're sought on.

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Here's my card. Let's talk.
And I think see that this is the

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whole point, Like the look doesn't
matter. We need people that love their

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country, who understand their mission,
and who are interested in being lethal on

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behalf of the American people. That's
the whole point of a military right.

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And the American people understand that.
Yes, But for some reason in that

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room, democrats did not want to
understand that they wanted to talk. There's

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no such thing we don't do racial
quotas. There's no racial quotas. And

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that's not true. It's just not
just it's not true in the university,

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it's not true in the military.
It's not true at our military universities.

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And so and I don't know if
you heard the ranking member Garcia, after

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he's from California, after all the
witnesses got done and the whole hearing is

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over, he's summed up for the
room the views of me and the other

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gentlemen who were called by Republicans to
be the witnesses to be witnesses, and

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ranking members summed up our comments,
and it was totally a misstatement, totally

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false representation of what we had said. He said we were advocating for what

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he say. He said, you
advocate for militias to overturn the regime.

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And I just thought, what a
liar. It's just crazy. And so

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anyone in uniform that watches that charade
is rightly angered by what they're seeing come

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out of our Congress. But one
more point, one more point, what

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good does it do? I got
an email a couple of days ago from

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that committed and they wanted to follow
up on my testimony. With a certain

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list of questions that they wanted greater
clarity on, and I said, oh,

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good, like you want more information. I don't know. Good that'll

408
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do, But let me see what
you're asking. I open up the document.

409
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I've not responded. I don't think
I will respond. Like question number

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one, tell us in your view, what are the origins of THEI number

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two? In your view do you
think the EI's wrecking military readiness? I

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mean, it's like just a joke. What in the world world This is

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from the staff of the right of
the Chairman of the committee. And I

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thought, how do you make any
progress when when this is how we conduct

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our business? Unbelievable? We're not
serious. Yeah, did you know that

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my pillow is having an enormous blowout
sale. I love it when things are

417
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called a blowout sale. That means
there's going to be lots of stuff on

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saying, I don't know if you've
been to the website lately, that there

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is so much on sale. That's
my sides. Yeah, I mean all

420
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sorts of stuff is on sale.
You get like fifty percent off my pillar

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two point zero and the flannel sheets. You know, I love flannel sheets.

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Fifty percent off of those, you
can get free shipping on all the

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large items like mattresses and mattress toppers. I mean, this is everybody needs

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to go to my Pillow now and
stock up on all the stuff. This

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is like after Christmas, after the
holidays sayings where you can just stock up

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on all the stuff that you want
to get from my Pillow because they have

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bombed uff there you guys. I
mean, the slides are less than twenty

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five dollars right now. You can
check everything out all the discounts at my

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pillow dot com slash chicks. Do
not forget to use code chicks, and

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that will get you the deepest discounts
my pillow dot com slash chicks. So

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in other words, that was a
wasted effort. Well, you know,

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people are now much more familiar with
your story. That is important. That's

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the outcome that's important. And I
think it's important for people that understand the

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truth to speak the truth and whatever
sphere of influence they occupy. Yeah,

435
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and you know I shared at the
very end of that testimony summation of what

436
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I really wanted to and it's that
we will continue to wreck our readiness and

437
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our recruitment if we pursue this agenda, which is totally true and it's happening,

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and that we'll destroy ourselves as a
country if we continue to do this.

439
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And it was really important to me
to be able to convey that witness

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or that testimony and that hearing,
and so I did that. Whether or

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not there's any positive, observable,
tangible outcome from the hearing, yeah,

442
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:23,440
well, I mean we heard it. Yeah, we heard it, and

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a lot of other people heard it, and I think that was that's the

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best outcome, right, And we're
hopefully more and more people will start hearing

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that and maybe we can turn the
ship around. Right, that's the need

446
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to do that. You have to
try always, even when things look dark.

447
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I mean, you try your best. The voice is powerful. There's

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00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,960
a reason free speech matters a great
deal. Yes, it is. The

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It is a preventative of sorts for
violence when people lose their ability to articulate

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their views or even scream and shout
them hatefully. Let's say one extreme like

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you need to allow people to say
hateful things because that's better than killing one

452
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:07,799
another. Right, And you start
to label things hate speech, and then

453
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:13,000
there's certain things that are now off
limits to say hatefully, you start to

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walk a path back from free speech
and towards the use of violence in order

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to solve your problems. Yeah,
that's a really interesting way to look at

456
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:27,480
it, because you constantly hear from
Democrats, particularly that there's speech that incites

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violence. And your point is well
taken that sometimes the silencing is what incites

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violence. So that's an interesting way
to words can incite violence, and rhetoric

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is often used to pave the way
for wars. A great example of this

460
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,359
just my input for the day because
I was thinking about it. You know,

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we call this the Russia Ukraine War. It's rhetoric. I'm going to

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00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,640
start calling it something different. It's
the NATO Russia War in Ukraine. Yeah,

463
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,079
yeah, yeah, it is.
And the fact is a bunch of

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Ukrainian people are suffering the most,
but it is It's clear from the words

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of our regime, from Biden and
from Lloyd Austin, from members of Congress,

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and from our NATO alliance that we
view ourselves as at war with Russia,

467
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and we're happy to do it in
a land far far away from home

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in order to destroy and bankrupt Russia. We're doing it to ourselves in the

469
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,839
process. But it's a it's a
proxy war. Yeah, yep. One

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final question before we let you go, and that is is it true that

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you speak fluent Mandarin? It was
true that I spoke fluent Mandarin. You

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00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:39,880
know, like any first off Mandarin, Chinese, if you're somewhat musical,

473
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:45,519
isn't as hard to learn as English. Really believe that. It's like you

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can mimic sounds and you're up and
burrow and it's a beautiful language. And

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my first China exposure was in two
thousand and five and the Department of the

476
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,160
Air Force had an exchange progret and
with the People's Liberation Army Air Force in

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chang Chu in China. And my
annunciation and my pronunciation is still somewhat correct,

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although my vocabulary is greatly diminished.
But I went and slept in the

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dorms with these young PLA cadets in
their Air Force Academy north of North Korea

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up in northeastern China. And recently, as a part of a movie that

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I'm filming, which we can talk
about another time. It'll be out the

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summer, I was in Washington,
d C. Actually it was the same

483
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,719
trip I think that I testified in
Congress, but I did a walk and

484
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:37,800
talk on camera with my good friend
Shei van Fleet Laden County mom, survivor

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00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:43,159
of Mao's Cultural Revolution in China,
and she's a very outspoken anti Marxist,

486
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,440
anti communist, a commentator now and
just came out with a new book.

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00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,920
But she's a wonderful lady. And
we spoke in Chinese for like two second

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00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,119
sound bites at the time, because
that was all the affluency I can muster

489
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:00,039
anymore these days. So you can't. Could you say, like, the

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00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:02,480
chicks are awesome? In Mandarin?
How to say chicks? It might sound

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like chickens. So the ladies,
can you say ladies? The ladies are

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00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,920
awesome? Oh jeez, you put
you got You got to give me a

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00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,880
warning about the stuffs. Ladies are
great, the ladies run sure. How

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00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:22,880
boy, that sounds good? Sounds
good. I don't know a Chinese person

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00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,239
would translate that is like, these
females are are really awesome. I guess

496
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,719
these shoes are cooked. Yeah.
Well, you know, I saw something

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00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,599
about this documentary about you coming out, and that would be a really fantastic

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00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,039
time to have you back. When
that is is it going to be the

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00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:42,119
summer or fall, you know when
it's coming. This is this summer,

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00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:45,000
it will come out awesome. Yeah, we would love to have you back

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00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,119
in preview that or totally give us
the rundown. That'd be wrapping up filming.

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00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:52,800
Are you guys in Texas? I'm
and she's going to be in South

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00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,679
Carolina pretty soon. She's in Indiana
right now, but I'm filming in Texas

504
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,199
here in a couple of wear down
to San Antonio, New Bronfels area.

505
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,480
I love that area. I love
the New Brothels. I love New Brothels

506
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:06,440
especially. But we're about two hours. We're out right outside of Waco,

507
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:08,800
so we're pretty close to there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,960
Waco. That's exciting that you're getting
out a documentary. Everybody, Yeah,

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Waco. But yeah, this summer
is when it will come out. There's

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00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,280
a working title that was released by
the Heritage Foundation that we said, hey,

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00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,960
take that away. We're not sure
if that's the final title, but

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00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:30,039
we we expect to be finishing filming
here in the next few weeks and then

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00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:37,039
hopefully maximum distribution throughout the country.
Awesome, this summer, fantastic, Yeah,

514
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:39,920
thank you so much. For giving
us the inside scoop on your story.

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00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,280
It's a fascinating one that everybody should
be listening to and thinking of as

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00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,559
a warning. I mean, because
it's not just about what happened to you,

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00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:52,159
it's about how important what you've done
since is. I mean the fact

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00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,760
that you continue to speak out and
make people aware of the dangers of what's

519
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,760
happening in our military. Everyone needs
to be concerned about this, and we

520
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,559
appreciate you taking the time. Also, you're a model for speaking out.

521
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:06,199
People should never be afraid to exercise
free speech and speak out and be strong

522
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,519
in doing so. So thank you
for being one of those people who does

523
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:10,639
that. Yeah, thank you,
Yeah, appreciate it.
