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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast for
the week of May eight, twenty twenty

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three. I'm Nicol Artics and I'm
here with Terry Morrow, Hello, and

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Catherine Heleco. Hello. Every week
we chat about what parents are talking,

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complaining and obsessing about right now.
This week we're complaining about people disliking children

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and obsessing about chat GPT even more
gasps. We are also taking a couple

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of breaks for an entertainment discussion and
a recommendation roundup. And today we are

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going to catch you up on all
that's gone on in our lives the last

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few weeks, so much in case
you're interested. Yeah, so we're a

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little rusty here because we took we
took a week off last week. Were

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so much going on in all our
lives we had to just we had to

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just shut up. So do you
want to talk about your Yeah, well,

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I was nominally the reason we took
last week off, because you all

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thought that I should take some time
off after surgery. I was working the

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next night. But yeah, I
had a parathyroid ectomy, which sounds dramatic,

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and it is a surgery to remove
one or more parathyroid glands. Now,

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I was not aware that I had
a problem with my parathyroid glands.

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I was not I had osteoporosis,
but I'm a short old lady, you

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know, not uncommon. But they
found a high level of calcium in my

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blood and that got everybody going,
oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

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And I went to an endochronologist and
she tested and found that my pyrothyroid hormone

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was very high. And then she
says, here, go take all these

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scans and see what's going on there. So I did an ultrasound, which

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found nothing. I did something where
they injected radiation into my veins and then

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put a big flat item extremely close
to my nose while I was laying down.

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Breaked me out a little bit.
That found nothing. Did another test

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that kind of found something. So
she sent me to a surgeon and he

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did another test, and that ultrasound
guy was really sure he had found it.

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And then my daughter surgeon looked at
the stuff and went, ah,

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we'll open you up and look around. So so I was scheduled for this

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surgery, and I'm pretty sure that
he scheduled. Scheduler told me that it

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was a same day surgery in a
hospital. I could stay. I would

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only stay there twenty three hours.
I had to be out before twenty four

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hours because then they would charge my
insurance for a day and we wanted to

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avoid them. So I was figuring, Okay, I'm gonna have this surgery

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and then I'm gonna be in the
hospital for hours and hours and hours.

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I'm probably gonna stay overnight, because
you know, if it's twenty three hours,

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it's probably gonna of an overnight and
I'm gonna have people taking care of

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me. I'm not gonna like that. I've never been in a hospital before,

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I've never had surgery before. I
had all this anxiety about it.

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Anesthesia, I was gonna have a
breathing tube. It seemed like a big

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deal. You know, you look
on it online and everything about it says

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that's nothing. But you know,
anesthesia, breathing tube, twenty three hours,

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it's a it's a hospital thing.
So I got a call from the

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hospital the friday before and they said
that the surgery was going to be eight

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thirty and that I should come in
at five thirty am, and so my

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husband and I did and we registered
and they told us to go to this

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area, which is where you would
wait for the impatient surgery. And we

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went up to that desk and I
said, my surgery was at eight thirty.

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And the guy, this very officious
guy who was like a character from

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the sitcom, you know, he
says, well, that's not what I

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see here, but maybe they moved
you up. So we waited and we

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looked at this thing on the board
and it looked like that my doctor had

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surgery at seven thirty and a surgery
at eleven, which was me my patient

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number, and nobody at a thirty. So it's like, well, number

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one, why am I not that
person at eight thirty? And if I'm

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not, why was I here at
five thirty am. Yeah, so we're

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doing a lot of sitting around,
we're doing a lot of waiting. It's

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you know, okay, whatever,
I guess. But all of a sudden

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they brought me back. They started
giving me instructions, I have to clean

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my body off with these pads special
I don't know. I just I guess

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I looked Germany and you know,
and all of a sudden, there they're

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starting to put ivs in me.
And then a guy comes in to inject

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some radioactive dye in me, and
he's all upset because the ivs not in

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yet, and the nurses like they
just set her in here. So apparently

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I had been suddenly moved up.
Somebody was saying like, oh, somebody

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didn't show up for their surgery,
so they're moving you up. But that

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was my time in the first place
anyway, So scrambling, much activity,

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everybody getting me ready, getting me
ready. My husband had to finally go

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to the bathroom, and of course
that's when they swooped me out of the

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room I was in, down to
the surgery room, put me on a

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surgery table. Five thousand people are
doing things to me all at the same

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time. I don't know if you
guys have had a surgery experience, but

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it was like, all of a
sudden, I was in an episode of

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Er. But you know, they're
putting things on my feet, they're putting

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things in my arms, they're putting
things in my head. They gave me

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this thing breathe this it's oxygen,
but I don't think it was oxygen,

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because pretty soon I was not aware
of what was going on. I was

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just starting to think, you know, I'm going to get a little cost

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to phobia from all these people doing
stuff all over me. I think I'm

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in a panic. I think I
should panic? Should I panic? And

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then and then they like I felt
something go into my body and it made

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me cough, and then I was
out. So they must have just said

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just injecture with something, right,
So and then I woke up and it

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was over, and they gave me
some ice chips and they I was able

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to talk. I've been worried I
wouldn't be able to talk, and they

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just sort of looked me over my
search and poked his head in and said,

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oh, it was good. They
took out a gland and you know,

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it looked to be the thing that
was causing the problems, and my

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blood level of the tormo went down, and you know, you can go

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home. I'm like, quite a
minute, I've been twenty three hours.

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Oh no, we never keep people
for twenty three hours, so I don't

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know what I find misunderstood. If
it would be, it won't be more

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than twenty three hours. But it
was home by one o'clock. So it

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was very weird. You know.
They sent my husband out to get the

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car and then they looked for somebody
to take me down to the front door

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in a wheelchair and dragoon to somebody
whose job it was nods. But she

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kindly pushed me to the door.
It's like, did I it was something

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I said that you want to get
rid of me? Do you need the

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beds? Did my insurance call and
say get her out about it? Just

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seems so abrupt. I used the
germ removable pands. I pro whoa.

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So it was just an odd I
had been prepared for this long, you

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know, not days, but hours
of hospital idle time, and instead I

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was just booted out at the earliest
possible, Like when when I took my

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son for his wisdom teeth and I
prepared to be sitting in the waiting room

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for a couple of hours minimum.
You know, I brought my laptop.

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I was like, I'm going to
get this and this and this and this

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done. No, No, it
was over in like forty five minutes.

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I'm I'm just getting warmed up.
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of

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amazing that they can do these things
and ship you out immediately after and everything's

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fine. I mean, I've been
fine. There was no repercussions of me

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leaving early. This is this is
why when my daughter got her Appendix out

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and I you know, it was
the somewhat of an emergency, right,

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so we didn't have a lot of
previous discussion of what was going to happen.

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But at like basically when she was
going in, I asked the doctor

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how long we would be in the
hospital and she's like, oh, you

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know, five to six days.
And I was like, what, well,

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I mean like you had a surgery
and you were out of there.

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Yeah, you know, people have
like open heart surgery and send them home

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and yeah, and yet for an
appendix she was going to be in there

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for five days. And she was
like, what I mean when my son

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had his had a ruptured ulcer and
had emergency surgery for it, he was

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in about five or six days too, right, And maybe it's just the

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emergency partner. It's the emergency partner. Maybe it's if there's stuff I don't

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know for appendix burst, or it
was just it did it? Did it

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did? Yeah? That maybe that's
it. Maybe if there's just them stuff

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in the abdominal cavity they need to
watch for a while. But it was

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I mean, I'd rather I'd rather
recuperate at home, That's fine, But

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I thought I was going to get
a little extra medical care. Right.

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So anyway, it went very well. Apparently they did. The surgeon did

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what he came for. And I
have this incision in my neck that has

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something called I can think a stary
strip over it, which should fall off

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depending on which website you look at
anywhere between you know, five and fifteen

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days. So there's some that say, if it's not often a week,

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you better take it off, or
some bad things are going to happen.

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And then there's others that said,
eh, you know, eventually it'll come

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off. Don't worry about it,
which is what my surgeon's nurse said the

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third or fourth time. I was
asking our questions right before she said,

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you have an appointment, please shut
up until then. But you said it

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in a nice way anyway. Um, So I still have that stick into

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it, and but I can get
it wet, and I just kind of

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am going about my business, you
know. I had I was supposed to

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be a lector at church the Saturday
after the surgery, and I thought,

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oh, I'm not gonna you know, I might not even have a voice.

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I'm you know, they say sometimes
the breathing two messes up your voice,

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or the surgery, does I,
And so I agreed to swap with

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somebody, and then that person forgot
and she did it the day I was

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had swapped her for So I said, well, maybe this is just God's

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way of telling them my voice is
gonna be okay, and it was.

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I went up so, like,
you know, five days after surgery,

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I'm up reading the Bible in church. So medical miracles, you know,

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they just just cut you open,
cut out pieces of your body, sew

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you back up, and send you
on your way. I goes on,

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And how did it go with your
family dealing with Well, I think it

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was kind of anti climactic because we've
been figuring and came Mom's going to be

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overnight in the hospital, or you
know, was my husband going to stay

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with me? And then we're the
kid's gonna have to make their own dinner.

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And then when I came home,
it was gonna be this big deal

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and all this stuff, and it's
instead I was like, home, I

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lunch done. So it's like,
oh, okay, you seem fine.

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Life goes on as it was.
I guess everybody's you know, once I

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was home and U still myself,
m I think everybody was over it so

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there are no flowers adorning the room
and welcome home. Oho. There was

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no time. Wow. Yeah,
it was very unticlimactic. So I probably

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could have recorded a podcast. But
anyway, for real, I am very

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grateful that it went well and it
went easily, and that there is nothing

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really to complain about. I have
to make things up, but I'm very

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grateful to all the to my surgeon, doctor Bryant Lee, who I've mentioned

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before in Livingston, New Jersey,
and the hospital that I went to,

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the Cooperman Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, New Jersey, and they took very

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good care of me. Everybody I
had there was super pleasant and professional.

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Even the kind of officious guy.
He was nice, and um, you

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know, they did their jobs and
when their job was done, they said

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so long and turned you out onto
the street. They weren't milk and me

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for bed rent. So um,
you know, which I guess is good.

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I guess it's the way it should
be. I would hope that if

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there was something really wrong, they
would not have carried me out to me.

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Yes, let's go to the ear
near, are you honey? It's

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fine? So well, I was
well, I was distracted by all of

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that medical nonsense. What was going
on with you guys? Nicole had a

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big day. Yes she did,
Yes, so did. I became an

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American citizen. So she's one of
us. I start being rude and out

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spoken, that Canadian niceness is going
to be. Well, that's so funny.

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That's what I said to my husband. I said, now I get

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to be rude, like a fight
on social media. Nicole, I know,

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I know. I can say all
those things that I wanted to say

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the past few years, and social
media no stop saying sorry. We Americans

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don't say sorry. Yeah, so
that was that was a big event.

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It was. It was quite a
mile and signing welcome, thank you,

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thank you. That. So are
you a dual citizen or did you uh

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oh yeah yeah yeah no ties to
oh heck no. Well um, according

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to well, America doesn't recognize any
other citizenship. So according to America,

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I'm only an American, but a
Canada does recognize other citizenships. So in

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Canada i'm a two time. In
America, it was one I'm hearing.

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Yeah pretty much America. It's America's
it's made a commitment and you're just still

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seeing someone else, all right,
just in case exactly, I gotta have

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plan b um. Right. Yeah, it was quite It was quite a

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momentous occasion because this whole immigration process
took fifteen years so from start to finish,

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and it h and was the test
hard. The test I had studied,

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so it was not hard, but
had I not studied, I would

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have failed miserably. But I had
to. I had to study a hundred

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questions they asked me ten wow,
um okay, and I had to do

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all kinds of raising my hand and
swearing to tell the truth, and um,

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I had to give them you know
all I mean, it's just I

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mean, this is all stuff that's
happened along the way anyway. So but

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it was quite a quite an occasion. And then um uh they sent me

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down to the Oath taking ceremony room. So that was kind of a big

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deal because we were you know,
there was myself and probably about forty other

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people and um, we took the
Oath of Allegiance and then I got a

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little flag and that was it.
So yeah, it was I had envisioned

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something completely different, but and it
didn't really. Yeah, that was kind

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of like, oh, okay,
this is it much like you Terry,

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this is it. Yeah, the
theme of this episode is like a big

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thing that that wasn't exactly but know
it was definitely. Um, it was

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definitely a big event and something that
I'm glad that I did so and I'm

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grateful that America has accepted me exactly. So yeah, now I can So

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three of us are done. We're
just going to We're waiting for my husband

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to get his and then aha,
we will be fully fully transformed as a

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family. Yeah, but it is
thank you. Is his in process?

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It is, yes, m that's
what it tells us on the website.

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Actually, mine we applied the exact
same like minute and mine online said it

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would take sixteen months to complete.
It took five, which is almost unheard

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of. And my husband's said it
would take twelve months. And he's still

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waiting for word on his. But
he has a much more complicated file i

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do because he's traveled. So basically
what we're learning is all estimates of timing

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are just don't even pay attentionally.
Maybe yeah, don't pay attention to them.

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So yeah, but it's it's definitely
not for the faint of heart.

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If you're thinking of immigrating to another
country, and especially in America, a

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lot of time, a lot of
patients, lots of hurdles. But yeah,

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I'm glad that I'm finally done with
that. Yay, congratulations. Yeah

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so that picture with your certificate,
which my kids have ones that look just

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like that, Yeah, tiny kitty
photos. They fortunately did not have to

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take a test. Had I been
imagine for little babies, I don't think

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they could pay. You know,
had I been two years older, I

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wouldn't have had to take the test
either. I guess they figure once your

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past fifty five, you don't you're
not a test taker. I don't know,

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too old. That would be bad
alone, would be reason to wait,

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right right. But no, it's
a very, very complicated and emotionally

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draining process. So I was happy
to get it out of the way.

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That's my story, my immigration story. Yeah, okay, cool, So

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what turns out it's not such a
big deal kind of story do you have

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to tell? Catherine? Well,
I thought I still aren't paying for my

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kids college, But in fact,
I mean I thought it would be hard

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dealing with the college application process,
and it was so. But it did

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finally come to an end, and
my song was admitted to a school that

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he wants to go to and we
paid them some money. So that's happening.

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Wait is this the one? The
one near you? Is that the

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it is in a town about a
little over a two hour drive from here,

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right, so it's close but not
too close. Yeah, which is

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nice. And yeah, he's he's
looking forward to it. He's you know,

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asking for T shirts and that kind
of thing. He's starting the collection

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of merch and he's working, you
know, he's joined the Facebook group for

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incoming students, which they use to
look for a roommates, and he's in

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the process of doing that. In
fact, going to meet a prospective roommate

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in a few days. So's it
seems to be plugging along it. And

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since I have talked, complained,
and obsessed about this over the past many

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months, I've figured, you know, the listeners might need an update on

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at all. Oh my god,
is Graduate High School? That's right?

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Piece of cake? Right, no
problem? So yeah, well so there

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you have it. Lots of fighting
news from everyone, Yes, and we

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should wrap this up for like,
they cut your neck open to bleed the

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money out, it's not really what
happened, that's right. And there was

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some studying involved but not so.
But anyway, that's the news, and

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that's it for today's Round one.
Tune in tomorrow for our entertainment, them

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to Round two and later in the
week to find out what we're complaining about,

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