1 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,039 Hello everybody, Welcome to That's Not That On and welcome back to Hyperblasts, 2 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:36,320 where we come at you not in too aggressive form. I hope you know, 3 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,719 calm down, but we're gonna arrive calmly and tell you calmly about some 4 00:00:41,759 --> 00:00:45,560 of the heavy metal news that's been going on this week. Thank you everybody 5 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,560 who checked out the reviews show that is, you know, was uploaded not 6 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,560 that long ago. It's a short turnaround with we podcasts and usually I suppose, 7 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,920 but you know, we're back again yet again. A little rats can't 8 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 get rid of us. But yes, the review show we did came out 9 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,519 Monday. We spoke about a load of some pretty heavy hitters. Actually, 10 00:01:03,599 --> 00:01:06,920 like I'm sure a lot of those records that we spoke about will be you 11 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,840 know, big contenders when it comes to the usual end of year round up 12 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,159 stuff. So it was a big, big time and we are continuing with 13 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,280 that today in terms of just following up on all that and seeing what's gone 14 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,640 on since and what else might be coming out. We'll have the release round 15 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:25,040 up later, but got some news before then. My name's parenheyish with me. 16 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:29,799 We got Sam Dignon and Elliott Paisley Hello, Sam. Last week we 17 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,159 had fucking a billion shows to talk about. Have you been up to anything. 18 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,400 I haven't. No, not this week, I mean apart from Jamie 19 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,719 Lemon was in my work today. That's about as exciting as it gets for 20 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,120 me. Really very nice, just doing his shopping. Like still you know 21 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,319 that guy doesn't do casual. You could like, if you know Jim Lemon, 22 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,480 you will spot him anywhere because he just stands out. Does he dress 23 00:01:48,519 --> 00:01:53,319 like a Victorian gentleman? Everwhere he goes, he's looking dapper as ever. 24 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:55,959 Yeah, like, no hat, But I just want to like you remember, 25 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:01,200 yeah, Elliott spotted any English rock musicians walking around the local area this 26 00:02:01,239 --> 00:02:07,120 week? I mean Roger He's coming to follow up on the nasty things he 27 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:10,120 said about him. Yes, And I was slamming on my back door bricks 28 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:15,840 through my window. Gonna keep an eye out for that guy. Yeah, 29 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:21,919 so let's talk news. The first thing we have got is, I guess 30 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:25,120 one of the biggest fans back at it again. Felt like kind of a 31 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,719 surprise. I didn't hear any don't any rumblings or rumors of a new great 32 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,039 green day this time around. It was just like, oh my god, 33 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,639 a new green Day music just appeared, and it took a while it seemed 34 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,400 like if anyone's actually start talking about it. But they have fully, you 35 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,719 know, gotten back into the ring here because not only have we had you 36 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:49,360 know, some some tour dates and so on announced, as we said last 37 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,680 week, but now we have a new green Day album announced. It's it's 38 00:02:53,719 --> 00:02:58,479 another nice January treat for us, just like the last one was, you 39 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,240 know, or at least early in the year. We can start it off 40 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:05,560 with a new green Day album. It's called Saviors. It's coming out on 41 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,400 January the nineteenth of next year, of course. And not only that, 42 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,639 but we have a single from it, the first piece of music, which 43 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,439 is the American Dream is Killing Me. It's the second like zombie apocalypse video 44 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:21,879 from a sort of aging pop punk band that we've had in the last week. 45 00:03:21,879 --> 00:03:25,960 I thought the Alkaline Tria one was a much better but new green Day 46 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:30,960 song now, I mean, you guys know the deal right. The last 47 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,319 thing we had was Father of All Motherfuckers, which I think was a new 48 00:03:36,479 --> 00:03:39,120 low even for modern green Day. I'm sure many people would agree with me. 49 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:47,080 That record was like almost completely without merits or any saving moments. This 50 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:54,240 song is Okay, it's not it's not that which I will guess I'll take. 51 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,560 I mean, I think this song is terrible, but you're right, 52 00:03:58,759 --> 00:04:01,879 it's still better than come from. Like I mean, I shouldn't go into 53 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:05,400 Green Day like I should know now, like not to expect anything from Green 54 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:11,080 Day. But even though it was still just like this is so flabby and 55 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,199 boring even by their standards, it's not, I guess it's not completely embarrassing, 56 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,000 like yeah, but it is still just like this is this what Green 57 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:25,079 Day are now? Like just the most flabby, boring version of something that 58 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,480 was once brilliant. Yeah, this song, to me, it's like it's 59 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:31,920 a Green Day song that you could like very you know, aimlessly minded, 60 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,439 kind of bob your head along too if you had it on in the background, 61 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:41,319 and it doesn't draw attention to itself in such extreme ways. But it's 62 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,360 it's like sub twenty first century Breakdown, which is a record that I, 63 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,360 you know, for its various faults, I enjoy, but it was clearly 64 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:51,160 you know, Green Day going on the down. This is that again, 65 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,560 with that kind of bad sort of rock and roll skip and bounce to it. 66 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,399 But like Way Way further down, you know the decline. It's produced 67 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:05,839 better than the trilogy record. It is much much more listenable than Father All 68 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:15,439 Motherfuckers was. It's it's it's very very eh for me. I mean, 69 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:18,240 I think I'd have this over pretty much anything in the trilogy. Like, 70 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:21,079 I mean, as bad as people say the trilogy is, I think it's 71 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,319 probably worse than people give it credit for. There's a handful of okay songs 72 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:30,399 on it. But I think there is like one potentially all right album among 73 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:35,279 the trilogy if you took the best songs off each one. Praise there's a 74 00:05:35,439 --> 00:05:43,120 handful of okay singles between three albums. But yeah, I guess if you're 75 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,199 talking the real bad era of Green Day and the one this is the most 76 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,480 like would be Revolution Radio. Yeah, this is what this reminds me of 77 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:57,639 my kind of vaguely political messaging on Green Day by numbers kind of execution. 78 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:00,800 I mean, it was only in my time before we've got a reference to 79 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,319 TikTok. So that's not great. I mean, to be honest, I 80 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:11,120 don't think Revolution Radio is as criminally bad an album as I think. It's 81 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,879 just that's records just a bit dull. I don't think it's terrible. It's 82 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:19,439 just Father of All is uncompromisingly bad. And I don't know, I mean, 83 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:24,399 for me, like this is a six. It's actually kind of a 84 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:27,519 pleasant surprise from Green Day, Like I don't rate twenty first century Breakdown, 85 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,160 so there's a chance this will be the best Green Day album in twenty years. 86 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,720 And also like a six out of ten, so that's kind of that's 87 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:40,600 kind of amazing for a legacy. I mean, that's a very You're jumping 88 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:44,399 over a lot of hurdles there to get to that from like a two and 89 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,360 a half minute single, which is pretty nothing. The solo is okay, 90 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:50,480 you're kind of a lotic solo. You know, Billy Joey can he can 91 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,920 play guitar in a you know, quite tasteful songwriting sense. Yeah, I 92 00:06:56,959 --> 00:06:59,319 mean, you know, a lot yet to be seen on the album, 93 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:03,800 but this was a compared to last time, this was a very like, 94 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,920 Okay, I don't want to claw my ears off, but I have gained 95 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:15,120 basically nothing from listening to this kind of deal. And you know, the 96 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,959 the only thing that you're ever going to remember from this is just that sloganeering 97 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,720 of you know, the American dream is killing me. And it's like, 98 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,079 mate, you've won the American dream like you were. You were lucky enough 99 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:26,399 to be born to the generation where you could actually play music for a living, 100 00:07:26,439 --> 00:07:30,720 and now you're a kajillionaire. And doesn't doesn't he sound it? Yeah, 101 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,519 New Green Day coming next year. In a way, I guess it's 102 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,839 better than it could be, but also in a way that makes it less 103 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:44,279 fun to talk about than it could be. We might just be in for 104 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:47,519 a fucking boring Green Day time, but I guess we will see. I 105 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:53,199 have higher hopes for the new Chelsea Wolf album, which is called She Reaches 106 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,120 Out To? What What is this album called? She Reaches Out to? 107 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:01,639 She Reaches Out to? She No. I thought I was having a stroke 108 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:07,720 there reading that for a moment that unless the Kerrang article I'm reading that from 109 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,240 is a made a typo, But I'm gonna assume. I'm gonna give them 110 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:13,600 benefit of doubt. Those guys conplicted album title perhaps, But Chelsea Wolf we 111 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:16,439 on a new single a little while ago. There is another one out with 112 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,759 this, but that is also a record that's going to be coming out in 113 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:22,439 the new year. Very excited for that. It's been a fair old while 114 00:08:22,439 --> 00:08:24,839 since we've had a full Chelsea Wolf album. We've been talking about it for 115 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:28,959 a while that we're kind of jew one and she's she's rather good. Some 116 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,000 new news that that we are going to talk about more fully is the EP 117 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:39,320 that was released this last Friday from The Callous dow Boys. It's called God 118 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,519 Smiles upon the Callous dow Boys. This is one of these EPs where it 119 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,159 was announce were like, yeah, we'll talk about when it's out. It's 120 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,759 now out, so let's talk about it. The Callous dow Boys. I 121 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,080 think people are so extra about this band, Like the people who love this 122 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,960 band seem to think they've rewritten music. I really like this band, and 123 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,440 I agree with you. Yeah, I think this band of right. But 124 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:03,799 I do agree some of the praises heaped upon them is a bit like every 125 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,600 time they do anything, it's like they've redefined the genre. It's like they're 126 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,879 a wacky mathcore band with a wide imagination that isn't strictly new. But I 127 00:09:13,639 --> 00:09:18,000 put this on as someone who is very, very casually kind of appreciative of 128 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:20,440 the calistaw Boys. I didn't love the album much as many people did. 129 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:24,639 This has perhaps some of my favorite material they've put out today, and I 130 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:30,720 was struck by how much color there is across these three tracks. The first 131 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:35,480 one alone really that like xylophones, Yeah, like streams or whatever. It 132 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,519 is that crazy instrumental hook over, like a big kind of momentum fueled you 133 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:43,000 know, metal core riff, but like it never ends or something like that. 134 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,600 But then you know, throwing all these like genuinely disarming, alien to 135 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:52,159 the ear sort of tech metal turns. And that's the first like minute and 136 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:58,399 a half before like daft samba and a full on two thousand and nine trunks 137 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:05,559 drop that I've missed that in metalcore, I've missed like those again you know 138 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,360 someone who loves suicideism and there as a hell that kind of like little stuff 139 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,159 like that. I think this is three of the best songs they've done. 140 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,399 I think there is a bit more cohesion in other kind of like they still 141 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:20,799 go all over the place. Yeah, feels less kind of like jarring and 142 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,120 more well thought out. I think there's actual hooks in their musical. Having 143 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:28,399 said that about all the different things that first song does, It's got like 144 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:31,720 a chorus that it returns to and it actually functions more as a coherence on 145 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Yeah, totally. I think I think all three songs kind of have that 146 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:39,879 that those similar kind of hooks they can at least resort back to to like 147 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,440 guide the song through rather than just constantly putting in all these different directions about 148 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,480 necessarily much focus. I mean, I think we're three for three because this 149 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,279 is some of the best Color Starboys material so far from me, Like, 150 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:56,200 I mean, for me, it's like the most they've done in terms of 151 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:01,480 gelling the ideas together. Yeah, not in less in a way that's at 152 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:03,519 least compelling, And by the time I listen to it again, I go, 153 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,759 okay, that makes more sense, Like pushing the Pink envelope. When 154 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,879 that goes from the sort of elevator music into the trance bit. The first 155 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,960 time, you're like, what the like have you just thrown that in deliberately 156 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,440 to be wacky, But then a couple listens in it feels a lot more 157 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:20,679 coherent. There's still like an element of the band. I don't even know 158 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,279 if it's an element or more of a a vibe or something that I find 159 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,200 kind of off put and I feel kind of shitty using this as a criticism, 160 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,360 but there's something a bit try hard about them? Is it the panic 161 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,919 at the disco clean vocal bits? Is that it's like, yeah, it's 162 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,799 the fact it's a bit like Dillingder escape Plan, but you take out the 163 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:41,679 Trent restaurant, chuck in the Brendan Uri and that's exactly what I said I 164 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,919 want. I would like theater kid. Dillinger is just something that's can be 165 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:46,720 a little bit off putting. And I say that about a band who I 166 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:54,080 do generally like what they're doing. And again their sense of like uber clean 167 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:56,679 approaching melody and this is still not the most suited to me, but it 168 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,360 is quite interesting seeing it done in that Like the last song Designer Shrouded Turin 169 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:07,519 has this like kind of R and B vocal hook that is positioned next to 170 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,320 like some fucking a tonal like John zorn x saxophone and then like a bost 171 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,600 and over part And is that rapping that's going on around that part as well? 172 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,159 So again that song does loads like that. That song is that's probably 173 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,039 one of the most ambitious songs on like they've done, as well as probably 174 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,840 the most ambitious on this on the EP. Like I mean that song's really 175 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,120 cool again and that nostalgia for the two thousands hook again. When they keep 176 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:31,960 coming backround to that, it just kind of grounds in something bit more like 177 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,279 aggressive. But yeah, I think like super creative but not doesn't feel as 178 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,639 kind of like, oh look at us, we're being totally zany. They've 179 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,519 got like I does that put on that feel like they actually take the songs 180 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:46,759 in interesting directions, like all those elements you've just listed for that. Yeah, 181 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:50,960 it's still pretty early days for this band, you know, then terms 182 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,200 of them becoming like one of the major sort of new critical darlings of the 183 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,039 heavy music world. That's we're basically talking you know, just over a year 184 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,360 ago now that Yeah, they kind of just absolutely crashed through and became that. 185 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:07,720 So I'm encouraged by, I guess the some of the developments that are 186 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,279 going on in this EP. And as someone sort of observing from Afar, 187 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,519 that's all like an asked for really so yeah, pretty good stuff. They're 188 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,720 from the Kaloustar Boys. Here is news that I mean, I can't rememi 189 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,200 if I put it here for a start, if I just because I don't 190 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,360 know, the prog nerds will come for me. But news that I never 191 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,720 anticipated us talking about. I guess because Elliott's I'm going to talk to you 192 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:35,759 as the other person who will have any any any mileage here. I suppose 193 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,200 one of my I got like, really, you know, my metal fandom, 194 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,960 I suppose properly blows up kind of around the turn of the twenty tens, 195 00:13:48,039 --> 00:13:50,559 like two thousand and nine through two kind of twenty ten, twenty eleven 196 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:54,360 is when I guess, you know, I was like thirteen years old. 197 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,519 That's when I became fully a metal head and I actually started following the culture. 198 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,919 One of the big I guess divisions and kind of splits from that time 199 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:13,080 that marks that kind of period in my memory is Mike Portnoy leaving Dream Theater. 200 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,679 I was in a lot of metal circles like that. Who you know, 201 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,200 that was the fucking that was you know, that was the end of 202 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:22,120 day's shit happened in there. You know. Mike Portnoy one of the most 203 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:24,799 celebrated drummers ever, certainly for Dream Theater, a huge part of at the 204 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:28,639 time they're kind of conceptual sort of you know direction. He was like a 205 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:33,720 real ideas man in that band, one of the brains behind it. So 206 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:39,039 that was a proper like that was a calamity there, and it feels like 207 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:45,360 another lifetime ago for me that Mike Portnoy left a Dream Theater and Dream Theater 208 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,679 since have in the scheme of things, been totally fine, right in terms 209 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,519 of like their place as a legacy band, They've won a Grammy in that 210 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,399 time, They've continued to be the band they were. Mike Manngeni, who 211 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:58,159 was drumming for them, did a great job through all those years, but 212 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:05,480 never anticipated being like, oh, fucking forty years into that band or whatever, 213 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:09,440 Mike Pu mightst come back. Yeah, I had the exact same thought 214 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:11,879 about how when I was first going into me it was one of the first 215 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:16,799 major stories I remember yeah happening. It was like that, And I mean 216 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:18,480 to the point where when Joey left Slipknot, I was like, oh my 217 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:24,960 god, it's like when Mike left. It was that level of reference point. 218 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:28,039 And for me, the fact that the band and Mike kind of got 219 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Pali again a few years later made it seem less likely because it's like, 220 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,360 well, if your friends and everyone wants it and you've not done it, 221 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:37,679 I guess you never will. And it was they just seemed like they were 222 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,000 just enjoying, you know, getting back in touch with each other, but 223 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:43,080 to continue to do their own things. Yeah, everything seemed to be kind 224 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,799 of at peace. And I don't dislike Mike Mangenie and I'm not a big 225 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,440 enough Dream Theater fans to go like this is the era, but the last 226 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:56,399 five Dream Theater albums have kind of lacked any bite or spark whatsoever if they 227 00:15:56,679 --> 00:15:58,960 had any, Like, they became a really polite, sort of classic rock 228 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:03,480 prog magazine band almost as soon as Mike Portnoy left. And that's not to 229 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,200 say it's going to sound like you know, GBH now, but Portnoy does 230 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:14,759 seem at least like the very least the kind of less restrained music theory nerd 231 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,519 type. Yeah, that's the kind of impression I've always gone. So if 232 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:19,120 we get a bit more of that, I was gonna say rock and roll. 233 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,919 I don't know about rock and roll, but a bit more of that 234 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,600 kind of bombastic energy, we might get a good Dream Theory record. I 235 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:29,000 think that's fair. Like they've had moments for me, like I enjoyed the 236 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:32,159 I think with the self titled record it he was like twenty thirteen or something 237 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:34,600 for me with the kind of the highlight of like the post Portnoy records. 238 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:41,679 Obviously right after that you had an astonishing moment if its yeah, And since 239 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,120 then I've kind of been like, yeah, okay, but the only time 240 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,039 I've ever seen Mike Portnoy in the flesh was drumming for Twisted Sister, And 241 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,519 you know, around the time the lettering fit was when he d he'd drummed 242 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:55,759 for Event sevenfold for a little while, and as has been pointed out, 243 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,879 he's done bizarre rock project like Adrenaline Mob and thing is like that. So 244 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:03,559 like he has you know, he obviously a very capable prog guy, but 245 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,519 you know he he knows how to rock out. He likes to rock out. 246 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:10,839 That guy. Remember when it was a few years ago we did I 247 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,839 think of his favorite albums ever, and I think Death Magnetic was like in 248 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:19,920 the top twenties, was like rocker what fair enough? Wow, that's a 249 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:25,160 that isn't of events. But yeah, you're right in terms of the final 250 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,240 record of port Noy can't what's called it's like Nightmares and oh black Clouds and 251 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:34,440 Silver Linings. Yeah, that one. I know that there's some good songs, 252 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,119 and there's one song on that has a really long one that's got a 253 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,480 fucker of a riff in it, and that's a really good song, and 254 00:17:41,079 --> 00:17:44,839 it's a darker Dream Theater record. And then the very next one they released, 255 00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:47,880 the Mike Mangenie one has that cover of the guy on the Typrope that 256 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,440 looks like like take that album where they're all like, you know, oh 257 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,359 yeah, Circus or whatever it is. So I think there is some some 258 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,079 truth what you're saying. As said as well for the real Dream Theater Faithful, 259 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,759 he was a huge kind of ideas guy in that band, and it's 260 00:18:00,839 --> 00:18:03,079 just the classic lineup, isn't it. Like if you if the idea of 261 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:08,960 going and see Dream Theater, the perfect version imagine your head would be with 262 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,160 Mike Portnite. That is no disrespecting Mike Maginie, who is a better drummer 263 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,880 than I could ever fucking like imagine being in a hundred lifetimes. But I 264 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,119 mean Mike Magini has said himself with his statement kind of leave in the band 265 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:22,640 that he was like, you know, my job was always to be the 266 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,640 drummer in Dream Theater. Mike Portnoyd was a little bit more involved in some 267 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:33,799 of the other things than that. And I don't know, I feel like 268 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,119 I'm I'm past caring that much about new Dream Theater just for this to be 269 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:41,759 like, oh my god, what if their next Dream Theater album is their 270 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:47,279 magnum opus. But it's just a real like oh wow, it feels like 271 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:51,240 a you know, a historical moment of like that's genuinely something I didn't expect 272 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:53,960 to happen like that. How many years in their career coul Dream that they 273 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 have left like a decade. Maybe I figured they were just sort of close 274 00:18:57,079 --> 00:19:02,200 enough to kind of ride it out and that that Sam, you are absolutely 275 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,720 stoked that you might finally get to your favorite band with their classic lineup. 276 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,920 Yeah, sure, whatever. I'm just you know, like, like Mike 277 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,680 Portnoll is a good drammer. Good for him, get that dream fit of 278 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,680 money that you're overdue for, a dream fit of money for a seven fold 279 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,240 for a while, I think, all right, No, But to be 280 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,680 honest as well, Mike Porty back in Dream Fitter means they're going to be 281 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,920 able to do bigger shows than what they probably have. Yeah, it's going 282 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,880 to be a bump up in that because then you're going to get those dream 283 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:37,319 fing like, oh my back. Yeah, it feels like big news, 284 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,759 so it is. I'm just you know, always sound like to you, 285 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:45,000 Sam, Yes, that is what that is what all dream fans sound like 286 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,119 to me. I'm friends with at least two dream Fir fans, so like, 287 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:51,519 including you guys. It means that the next time dream Fit to release 288 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:53,400 an album, we have to review it. We've got more reason to review 289 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:03,480 this one than a perhaps with the last few, So bring on. What 290 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:06,240 do you think Mike Portnoye thought about the astonishment you reckon? He thought that 291 00:20:06,279 --> 00:20:08,519 was a that was a good move. Or he was like, oh you 292 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:15,880 all laughed at Adrenaline Mob and look at you now. Yeah, okay. 293 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,880 Festivals and live news are going to carry us for the rest of this little 294 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,480 news section, and the first one is going to be, I guess the 295 00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:32,559 most sizable thing. Slam Dunk announced their first round of bands for this year's 296 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:37,200 event, and slam Dunk is, of course it's a you know, it 297 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,799 had a difficult year this year. There's a lot of kind of I don't 298 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:47,920 know, good will riding on how well this next event runs, and obviously 299 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,880 that is in huge part due to the logistical issues more than you know, 300 00:20:51,839 --> 00:20:56,039 lineup, curation or what have you. But I think a lot of people 301 00:20:56,079 --> 00:20:57,960 will be going. Something needs to be really big at slam Dunk for me 302 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:06,319 to want to yeah, go back there. This just and I don't mean 303 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,559 to slag anyone off who is trying to do their job or whatever with this, 304 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,599 And I hope there's more on the horizon, but this is embarrassing. 305 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:19,000 This is maybe the worst first announcement for a festival in the UK I have 306 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:25,119 seen in god knows how long. It actively makes me want to go. 307 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,440 Is this what you think rock music is? Is this how you want to 308 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,519 make us look You're making us all look bad. So the problem is is 309 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:40,319 for what slam Dunk's core is. There is an argument that this is a 310 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,400 very appealing slam Dunk lineup. I mean, this album, this sign up 311 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,319 is also we're in a post. We're like I know, and we're in 312 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,319 a post when we were young. Fest world and a lot of these bands 313 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:56,720 that were like to be honest, that belong on the lower down stages or 314 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,799 on the sort of the bottom end of the main stage opening it because they 315 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:03,279 are completely past it are going to be bumped up again because that nostalgia for 316 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:07,960 the two thousands, as the Callista boys like put it, is at high. 317 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,160 So like the thing is I think there is I look at this one 318 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,319 and go, well, there's actually a lot I want to see on that 319 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,440 lineup? Is there a lot that I've not seen before that I that is 320 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,519 like actually genuinely exciting. No, But like the particularly like the two lowest 321 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:26,680 down stages. I would watch every single band on those stage and have a 322 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,519 lovely time. The problem is you look at the first the top two stages 323 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:36,799 on that lineup, and even again as someone who likes some of those bands 324 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:41,000 on those stages, they're dreadful for like as a as your marquee. These 325 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:45,799 are you know, main stages because I mean, look you Music's headlining. 326 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:49,960 They're a safe bet headliner for Slam Dug. They are one of the least 327 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,359 offensive kind of bookings on that main stage. I'd make the argument for because 328 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,319 they're at least you know, at like whether you like them or not, 329 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,079 they're an established thing. But then when you go do you can rejects boys 330 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:06,160 like girls and we the kings beneath them, like what are we doing again? 331 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,319 Like I there are there are boys there are two boys like Girls songs 332 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,440 I like, there are like for We the Kings songs I like. But 333 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:15,240 these bands should be playing half an hour sets at the start of the day, 334 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,799 not, you know, they're they're bumped up that lineup. They're going 335 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,680 to have forty five minutes at least on their set, and like, who 336 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,599 wants to see that much? Boys like Girls or We the Kings in twins. 337 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,559 Yeah, and then you look at the heavier stage and you've got I 338 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:33,240 prevail Funeral for a Friend asking Alexandria set it off currently over there Feel for 339 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,119 a Friend obviously obviously a great band, but they have been very you know 340 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,359 again a fine slam note booking in you know, but they are just riding 341 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,720 the wave of nostalgic love. They're still right live, but it's when you're 342 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:48,799 looking to Funeral for a Friend to be like, you know, the shining 343 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,440 light of like, oh, that's something different on that stage with those despicable 344 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,240 bands, am I I There's been a few people who have been like, 345 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,319 oh, look at the lowest stages, you know, there's some stuff there, 346 00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:02,839 Like you said that person, Yeah, that's that's that's fine. You 347 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:06,640 know if you are a big scar person or a big you know, grown 348 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,000 up he know, like I was, gonn say, they always have that 349 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,599 sort of no EFTs stage, don't they, like you know, yes, 350 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,039 you can go and see Penny Wise and the bouncing Souls and you know the 351 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:19,160 scar bands like the Selector being like legit UK scar legends on there. That's 352 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,400 yeah. The interrupts head on that stage. That's that's all well and good. 353 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,200 As you said, you're kind of grown up emo stages you want to 354 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,160 put it, You've got the one of the years Lstunes whatever. I agree, 355 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:30,799 Like, you know, if I was into that stuff, I would 356 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,920 have a really good day, you know, if I went, I would 357 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,319 probably you know, have an amazing time watching the interrupts. But the price 358 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:41,799 is now what's the exact price of what they've bought these tickets up? So 359 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:47,000 so what it is is the phase value price is one hundred and twenty pounds, 360 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,680 which is staggeringly high for a day for what's the what's what was it 361 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,839 this year? Because that's gone up this year. It was about one hundred 362 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,759 pounds this year. And what they've done is if you bought a ticket for 363 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,680 this year, you've been sent a discount code to get it for the price 364 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,880 of this year's festival if you book before the tenth of November. Like, 365 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,000 so, then on the strength of this lineup is what they want you to 366 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,839 er. Yeah, they want you to they want you to like pay a 367 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:18,240 slightly cheaper ticket because on this the strength of this lineup. Yeah. So 368 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,839 going back to what I was saying about, you know there's lowestages. Yes, 369 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,960 you can have a good day the when the price is inflating that much, 370 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:30,920 you are looking to Okay, what is the largest amount of this budget 371 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:34,200 going on for these bands? Right? And yes there is more to come. 372 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,680 This can be you know, if they offer a good alternative to UNI 373 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,759 at six, if they offer you know, anything that's interesting as opposed to 374 00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:48,279 We the Kings and the endless, endless, fucking nostalgia bullshit that legitimately puts 375 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:52,359 us back as a culture by about fifteen years. The one nostalgia booking I 376 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,000 allow. I'm excited for Head Automatic ut. Yeah, that's that's that's something 377 00:25:56,039 --> 00:26:00,680 different. But what I was going to say is that, uh, going 378 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,680 for a day you can go, oh yeah, I'll pay one hundred and 379 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,039 twenty pounds to stand at the scar stage all day because everything else is utter 380 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:14,799 bullshit that at that point it starts to feel like you are being taken advantage 381 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:17,640 of. Yeah, I mean, okay, fair to say, I mean, 382 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,400 it's fair to I mean, I know this again ties into the wider 383 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:23,640 conversations about the pricing of live events in the UK at the moment being utterly 384 00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,240 ridiculous. And this is the one we come. This is the first one 385 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,200 I've gone. Yeah, no, the prop what their child, what they're 386 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,599 asking for and what they're offering is not adding up to quite a staggering degree. 387 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,759 Yeah, I mean I again, I look at that lamp and like 388 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,079 you've even got like pail Waves. I'm like, that's really cool to see 389 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:42,559 them. And I'm a big Pawaways fan. I'll go to and bobby them. 390 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:47,759 But it's it's not got that kind of big Okay, there's my money's 391 00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:49,240 worth booking at the moment. There's a lot of bands I like, but 392 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:55,359 I'm waiting for, you know, there is That's what I'm paying my big 393 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,599 bucks for. Yeah, slam Dunk has historically been one of the like proper 394 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,599 big like if you were to pick like five core UK rock festivals actually mark 395 00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,160 out the calendar that everyone is aware of, right, because there are loads 396 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,400 of festivals that pop up here and down the country. Right. But you 397 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,519 know you're talking to your downloads, your bloodstocks. If you're into your extreme 398 00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:15,519 stuff, you've got Damnation at one end of the year. If you're into 399 00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,960 your pop punker stuf, you've got slam Dunk at another year. Slam Wuk 400 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,680 is one of those proper, like you know, headlining kind of events along. 401 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,839 We know, two thousand trees, our Tangent whatever. I look at 402 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,960 this lineup and I go there were a lot of hard rock heavy metal festivals 403 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,759 aimed for aging people. Where you go to hard rock hell, you go 404 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:41,759 to Hammerfest, you pay a ridiculously inflated amount for the festival. Yeah, 405 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,680 the absolute crap they've got on there. And yes, as you say, 406 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,119 there will be a handful of okay extreme metal bands at the bottom that you 407 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,039 could go along and see and go, oh, it's not all bad. 408 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,279 But you are paying, however, many hundreds of pouns or whatever to go 409 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,240 camping with Anvil and to go camping with Phil Campbell and the Bastard Sons and 410 00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:02,960 any equivalent and kind of and you at least they'll play Motorhead songs fucking boys 411 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:04,799 like girls aren't playing Motorhead songs. I mean, I don't think we're quite 412 00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,720 at that level yet, because I think there is still like I mean, 413 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:11,680 all work and reads I've got, you know, probably more. No, 414 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,119 it's it's hard rock hell for elder emos is what it looks like in terms 415 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,119 of getting in terms of the bang for your buck that you are getting. 416 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,279 I think the crazy part is it's about thirty quid cheaper than three days at 417 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,400 two thousand trees at the moment. Yeah, And like I I you know, 418 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,440 I've I've really I've had really good as this lad book in the past, 419 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,160 right, And this is not me coming for them as an institution or 420 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,799 whatever, but I just feel like I look at this and I go, 421 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:41,119 not only is that terrible value for money in terms of if you are asking 422 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,359 people to buy early to get their cheaper ticket or whatever. When you're yanking 423 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,559 up the price and you are doing it on the strength of this lineup, 424 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,240 that is a big, big ask unless you were just having the most you 425 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,240 know, absolute mark. They will go along for anything that was released you 426 00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,680 know on feel By right in two thousand and nine or whatever. Kind of 427 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:08,079 people. But it also it makes rock music look bad, Like I look 428 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:11,799 at this and I go if people are talking about rock music having a hard 429 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:15,119 time culturally and you know, struggling to draw in people, you know, 430 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,039 struggling to be a kind of genuinely kind of dangerous alternative option or whatever, 431 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:26,279 no wonder. You know, young people can't be excited by something when that 432 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,400 a festival like this that used to be a kind of young person's festival right 433 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,200 is now turned into hey, thirty five year old who never grew out a 434 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,160 wee the King's and never got into anything else. Here you go again, 435 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,920 give us your one hundred and twenty pounds please for your one festival of the 436 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,039 year. I think, I mean, I don't go to slam that. 437 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,000 I've never been slammed UK and I'm not the demographic, but it looks like 438 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,319 a rewind festival poster, the sort of thing we're like, if you're in 439 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:52,359 your forties, you look at it and go Tony Hadley, you be forty 440 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,680 and you kind of love and then buy a ticket, like you're not going 441 00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:57,720 like, oh my god, they've got Mark Harmond. You're going Mark Harmon's 442 00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:00,960 alive. We've got to go like these people who are thirty, like these 443 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,759 elder emails. Are they even that passionate about we the Kings, I don't 444 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,640 know? Or is it just like, oh my god, we the Kings 445 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,240 are playing hilarious if we went, it's it's the combo of like like I 446 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,799 would say with the Kings, boys and girls were my comedians on their own, 447 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:17,759 they wouldn't be excited, but you put them together and for that audience, 448 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,720 that's exact. I mean again you say that, but Hawthorne Heights drew 449 00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,920 one of the biggest crowds that slam Dunk this past year and that sums up 450 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,599 the crowd to me, It's just we you know, we've given download a 451 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,759 lot of stick at various points over you know, the history. For a 452 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,359 refusal to kind of move forward, a refusal to this feels like a step 453 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,960 back though as well, compared to you know, enter Zakari is like the 454 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:45,599 headline. Yeah, what I was going to say is that this, this 455 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,279 line up, to me, is the most dramatic stagnation I have seen from 456 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,960 any major UK rock festival in the last ten years. Like it's it's it's 457 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,240 a it makes me feel bad to look at it. It makes my skin 458 00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:06,279 cruel. It makes me want to just like, you know, reconsider what 459 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,960 we're doing, because if you know, if this is it, then you 460 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,200 know, in terms of where we are at as a culture, then it's 461 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,880 just it. It makes us look all very sad, is my point, 462 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,720 bet and you is Malevolence completely sold out their larger venue tour that they've got 463 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:26,960 coming up soon this year. Every venue completely sold out and considering they were 464 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,119 going for some decently sized places, that is pretty fucking brilliant news. And 465 00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:32,880 they were, you know, confident enough to go. Yeah, we're going 466 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,960 announce another tour after that's one, this time in UK clubs, doing a 467 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,759 bit of what I guess Trivium did this year. They're bringing pain of truth 468 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,000 and rough justice with them, which is one for the island, Yeah, 469 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,839 one for the spin kickers. Good stuff. There sounds very very exciting for 470 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,240 people who are able to make it to those. Bat Sabbath are also returning 471 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,720 to the UK. Yet again, I say yet again, I've never seen 472 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,920 they said they did like one or two thousand trees, but they haven't done 473 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,480 it. I've only like one Bat Sabbath tour before. But yeah, I 474 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,319 mean I don't say that disparagingly. The more bat Sabbatha around, the better 475 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,480 time we're all having, I suppose so. And they don't have a very 476 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:12,079 sizable tour as well, so good for them. Uh and the best news 477 00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:15,480 story of the week. Let's be real, my my time has finally arrived 478 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:24,279 everyone because Uh TikTok, in all of its bizarre, arbitrary grace, has 479 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:30,759 decided to move on to uh none other than Mortician, who are now TikTok 480 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,519 icons. Mortician and specifically their song Rabbit, which you may if you go 481 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,400 back to our Mortician album club we did at the start this year. I 482 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,680 was like, Rabbit's my tune. Rabbit was the one that I loved. 483 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,480 I was like fourteen years old. It's got the most iconic intro, It's 484 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:50,400 got the best riff that he moves in. Uh. How did this happen? 485 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:57,519 Who don't know who started Rabbid by Mortician trending on TikTok so. I 486 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,200 probably think it's like like attractive Greebow goth girls who like Mortician and are like, 487 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,119 yeah, if you go on the tag for this. Most of it 488 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,880 is just basically kind of goth people just filming themselves looking you know, looking 489 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,880 gothy. But where did this start? Like, well, I don't understand 490 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,200 how something takes off on TikTok at this point, but I guess you know, 491 00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:20,640 it's the hallow, it's Halloween season. It's the season of all things 492 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,799 spooking, like horror. And so when you've got that horror sample into a 493 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,599 riff that is not but not you know, it's not mortician drum machine going 494 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,440 off, it's not too like like oppressive immediately, so I can see how 495 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,359 I mean, it's a fucking it's a fucking groove, is what it is. 496 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,400 And it's like I said, it's got that intro of you know, 497 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,400 I eat your blood and I drink your skin, which seeing people lip syncing 498 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,400 to that is so fucking surreal. But yeah, there's been like, you 499 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,799 know, thousands and thousands. A couple of days ago it was up to 500 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:52,519 around seven thousand videos, which you know, in terms of TikTok standards, 501 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:53,519 is not you know, we're not talking Marry and across numbers here, but 502 00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:58,680 if we look at morticians streaming currently, right, I listened to a lot 503 00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:02,039 of underground extreme metal bands. They do not have huge streaming numbers. When 504 00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:07,239 I tell you that approaching two hundred thousand monthly listeners for a band who sound 505 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:13,000 like Mortician is pretty incredible. Currently for a caparison point, they've got more 506 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:16,199 monthly versens right now than Creeper Do, who released not only are a much 507 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,519 more accessible we would like to beat popular band, but they also just released 508 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,360 a very well received album. But the power of trending on TikTok, Mortician 509 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:32,239 Rabid, the song that is going the rounds currently has over four thousand or 510 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,719 sorry, just just under approaching four thousand plays on Spotify. There are a 511 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,000 few of us sorry yeah a million? God that that would be pathetics, 512 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,920 that would be known. How much more than the rest of the album is 513 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,800 that song? Yeah? So that is it. There are a few other 514 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,360 songs that seem to have been kind of boosted up by this as well that 515 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:57,440 are breaching the a million mark. Anything Mortician having a million streams? Yeah, 516 00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:00,280 I don't. Unfortunately, you know, I wasn't to have the clairvoyant 517 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,440 here to be able to check the before and after, but it has to 518 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,559 have been a major spike there. This is when you think of how many 519 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:12,119 bands write songs for TikTok, It makes it so much funnier. But how 520 00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,440 many shit metical bands are going, Okay, they want to have this bit 521 00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:16,119 and then they can put their makeup on and then they they will play this 522 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:22,440 bit and Mortitian just some grubby guys. Will Rama knows what TikTok is. 523 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,480 Do you think he will be confused as fuck whether he starts getting a different 524 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,519 kind of I'll say email. Does will Rama have email? No one knows 525 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,800 when where they're playing their next gig, and everyone gets there's a bunch of 526 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,039 teenagers who get their phones out when they play. Rabbit's gonna be like King 527 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:45,760 Kong, like rattling the chains or whatever. It's just like, I hope 528 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,039 this is a watershed moment because bands need to realize sounding like Lincoln Park it's 529 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,519 not the way the people want. Mortician let them eat skin. Yeah, 530 00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:57,119 I think this is a It's like a wonderful cap on. I guess something 531 00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:59,960 that I've been pushing for, like, you know, a couple of years, 532 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,079 because I've been talking a lot about a lot of the new wave of 533 00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:07,320 death metal bands and how this daft fucking band, Mortician, who were almost 534 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,360 like a joke when I got into death metal, and they were almost like 535 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,400 the band I was told I shouldn't like because they're too stupid, and then 536 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,800 I got into them anyway, have been such a powerful influence on a lot 537 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,400 of what's actually gotten popular since we did that album Club laying it all out 538 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,280 and being like, Wow, this is special, isn't it? And just 539 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,199 a few months later, here we are the internet and you know, the 540 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:36,960 gen Z is out there absolutely completely credited everything we were saying. They're so 541 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,440 lovely stuff. Okay, questions have returned to hyper blasts this time. We've 542 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,000 not been able to do them for a few weeks just out of busyness, 543 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:46,840 but we have got a bunch and also we had a fair few really good 544 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,760 ones this week, so if there may be some, I will you know, 545 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,960 punt over until next week's patch as well. But the ones we've got 546 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,119 this time are going to be kicked off by Gary Blackwood who asks how many 547 00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:01,800 times is it normal to see a band on tour cycle? I mean as 548 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,000 many times as you want to see it. I mean, for talking normal, 549 00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,639 is that the most like one time? Is like for everyone that's gonna 550 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,800 be you know, the most common answer, But I just, you know, 551 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,519 see how many times you want to see them. I guess the real 552 00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:19,079 question being asked here is how many times would you see a band on one 553 00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,239 cycle before you start getting bored or start wishing they would do something else. 554 00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:25,280 I mean I did, like I said, an entire Wilships cancilator. I 555 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,000 know it was only six dates, but you know I've done six dates of 556 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,159 one tour and canserbacks are a different set every night, and that was cool. 557 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,000 Yeah. I think let's let's ignore that. I think it's more in 558 00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:38,679 terms of like bands, because most people will go to the show that is 559 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,519 in their city, right, Yeah. But if a band keep coming around, 560 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:46,039 keep you know, doing multiple tours on one you know, essential cycle, 561 00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:50,800 at what point were about four album cycle? Yeah? I gaes, 562 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,119 Yeah, Like at what point would they announce one and you'd go, I've 563 00:37:53,159 --> 00:38:00,239 seen the last three? I mean, for me, the cells Ka. 564 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,599 It massively depends on the band, because it depends how distinct each cycle is 565 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,440 or how it feels. Because like for the bands that change on each cycle, 566 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:10,519 you might only get a couple of chances to see like that band, 567 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:15,639 Like if you see slim on on Iowa, is your only opportunity to see 568 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,880 like that? Look that stage show that thing at that time. So for 569 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,679 me, I saw go. I saw Ghost three times on Prequel and twice 570 00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,840 on Impier, and in both cases it was like in only a couple of 571 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,360 years, the thing I'm seeing right now as it is is going to cease 572 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,079 to exist. Whereas if you think someone like Springsteen, who it's not about 573 00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,920 the show and all the extra stuff, it's just what songs you're gonna hear. 574 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,679 It's whether or not you can depend on that band to throw in some 575 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,079 variety. Yeah, and there are, certainly there are Ghost as a good 576 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:46,519 example of Like, they're a band who I've seen on pretty much like every 577 00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,559 other cycle, and the cycles that I missed, I was like, I 578 00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,800 would have loved to have seen that version, you know that moment. You 579 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,880 know. Creeper is another one obviously, where like I am really jazzed to 580 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,199 see the Sanguavore version, and I will take it really as much of that 581 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,920 as I can get before it turns into something else. I mean with Creeper, 582 00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:07,840 like, I think a lot of that comes down to I guess festival 583 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,039 appearances as well, because you know, maybe a band will do one major 584 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,880 headlining tour for the record or whatever, but if you can see them scattered 585 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920 around a lot. You can kind of almost like get more bite sized versions 586 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,679 of that film. So these Creeper as example, I tend to see Creeper 587 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,719 a lot on most album cycles. I only saw them twice on Sex Death 588 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,800 and The Infant Void, and that was majorly because of COVID and the fact 589 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,719 that you know, it took them ages to be able to actually properly tour 590 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,480 that. But the first album internally Arms, I think I saw them about 591 00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:37,840 five times on that, and that's not including the EPs as well, which 592 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,440 are almost like a sort of prelude to to that. And a couple of 593 00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:45,559 those were you know, headline tours, and a few of those were you 594 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:46,719 know, oh cool, I can go see them at Slam Dug, I 595 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,079 can see them at two thousand Trees or whatever, and you know, Sangle 596 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:52,119 all coming up, they've got the headline tour. I would very much, 597 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,760 you know, I would be excited to see them pop up anywhere else and 598 00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:00,039 kind of grab as many moments of that, and I think filling in that, 599 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,000 you know, seeing them if you like, you know, go into 600 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,960 the headline tour and seeing them a few times at a festival kind of kind 601 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,639 of negates the Oh, maybe I won't go out to the third tour tonight 602 00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:13,039 because I've been to the last one, because you're kind of already at the 603 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,079 festivals, you know. I think, I guess it depends on how distinct 604 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:19,239 how much do you like that particular cycle. Like, you know, there 605 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,239 are bands I really like when they're talking on an album. I don't like 606 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,280 some Like I'm just I'm not gonna bother on this touring cycle because it's they're 607 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,840 focusing on an album. I don't know, there are there are lots of 608 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,719 factors. I mean, generally, if I like a band, if I 609 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,119 can afford it, I'll get a ticket every time they come around. If 610 00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:36,880 that as long as they've not you know, completely shut the bed or something. 611 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,360 But like, I don't think there is really a normal amount of times 612 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,000 to see a band. It's it's it's entirely down to how much you want 613 00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:51,480 to see that particular set list, live show, whatever. Yeah, I 614 00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:53,760 think like there are exceptions to the rule I just laid out. Like Clutch, 615 00:40:53,880 --> 00:41:00,360 I would see every success every time. That's it. Like Clutch, 616 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,360 the show has been identical for the last decade or however, I've been seeing 617 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,119 clutch. But every time the show is distinct, you hear songs that you 618 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:10,320 haven't heard before, songs you might not I might even be familiar with. 619 00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:15,400 You sometimes catch a clutch. So so that sort of thing is always worth 620 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920 going for. But when it's like I don't know, when it feels like 621 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,719 it's kind of all laid out and it's the same thing for three years, 622 00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,119 yeah, I'm less inclined, I think. Yeah, I agree, like 623 00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:29,119 I say, unless it feels like this this thing you're seeing now, it's 624 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:32,400 not going to exist in five years. Yeah, I think, particularly if 625 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,559 a band was doing multiple tours, not just our tour and festal appearances, 626 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,239 like I said, because I think at festivals you always got to consider. 627 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,320 Some people get a bit like, oh, you know, this is the 628 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,119 same show I saw somewhere else, and it's like, yeah, fair enough. 629 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:49,039 But also you might be in a completely different crowd. It might be 630 00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,559 you know, there might not be that crossover in they're presenting it to different 631 00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,480 people. But if it is like you know, oh, you've just done 632 00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:59,599 a headline tour, now you're coming through with another headline tour or whatever, 633 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,360 if that is essentially the same show, same setlist, or whatever, then 634 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,719 that is like, yeah, why unless absolutely do it, you don't need 635 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,360 to again. Creep a really good example the multiple headline tours that they tend 636 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,559 to do for something like, you know, back in the Turn of your 637 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,840 Arms days they had you know, the album tour which was you know something, 638 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,280 and then at the end of it they had the Theater of fear Thing 639 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,880 that was a completely different show, a completely different setlist whatever. Even though 640 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,119 it almost like capping off, if you can reinvent what you're kind of offering 641 00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:30,119 throughout the album cycle, then yeah, as many times as you want. 642 00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:36,159 Really, Tyler Ballard asks what heavy American band has yet to tour over there 643 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,519 that needs to So let's you know, we're talking bands who literally have not 644 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:43,960 been to the UK yet, who may be broken through. So we're not 645 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,719 just talking, Oh, who will we first to mention Afi or the Misfits. 646 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,000 So I was literally gonna say, can I just say here find the 647 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,199 Misfita? No, we're American bands who have broken through, who that you 648 00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,400 would really like to see, who just haven't got the chance to go out 649 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,239 to the KA I don't think because every halfman I was like, no, 650 00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:07,199 no, they've been here now I've kind of really got into recently. I'm 651 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,400 sure there'd be something. I mean, come back to me. I think 652 00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:17,920 I initially missed the American caveat So I picked Streemboard because I don't know if 653 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:25,559 you've seen you want to see him doing the robot have you seen have you 654 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:32,559 seen his like his clips on YouTube is fucking electro dance shows of all the 655 00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:37,639 fucking things to pick Elliott, You go, yeah, I'd like to see 656 00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:45,039 the Streambord show. No one knows who you're talking about. Well, this 657 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,679 was this was all news to because I went down a rabble. I'm just 658 00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:51,440 going have they ever played live? Have they ever played live? And streem 659 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,000 Borg I don't listen to. I don't like stree Board. It just came 660 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:55,079 to me and I had checked and they said, yeah, yeah, they've 661 00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:59,039 done some gigs around New Zealand and Australia and I was like all right, 662 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,119 So I checked it out and it was like he's in corpse paint. He's 663 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:06,239 got kind of like a Prince jacket on, and like you say, kind 664 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,719 of robotting to year six disco light like disco lights at the school, the 665 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:15,480 primary school disco and the music's now it's screensaver ambient stuff. I mean, 666 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:19,880 someone's got a book. It okay, So everyone who now used to go 667 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,480 and Google's street board fucking dance shows, go go ahead. I've got proper 668 00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:30,280 answers. I will salvat this question. For me, I meant non heavy 669 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,679 answers, but yeah for asking like heavy, yeah, I'll throw two in 670 00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:37,320 a second for those. For me, it's like it's majorly the kind of 671 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,280 heavy metal a lot like the kind of underground heavy metal bands in the US, 672 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,000 because like coming up at Damnation, this is unbelievable. Kennys are playing 673 00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:50,119 their first UK show and like I've been, Yeah, Chemists, they haven't 674 00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,039 been to the fucking UK. I and I've been. I've been talking about 675 00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:55,719 you know that band on this podcast a fucking alone for over like five years, 676 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,199 and I'm finally gonna get see Kennys. And similarly, like it's I 677 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,480 mean unto others have been here quite a lot, happily long way that continue. 678 00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:06,920 It's whenever you get like a visa goth or an Eternal Champion tour, 679 00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,320 it's like, yes, fucking a treat and there are bands in that realm. 680 00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:15,239 The UK Debuty High Commander coming up played it. Oh god, fuck 681 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,880 no, no, that'd be a good one. They bet barely tour do. 682 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,880 They just sort of turn up at fucking you know, hello, we're 683 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:27,000 playing a Halloween show in Detroit or whatever. But I'm gonna say summer Lands 684 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,159 haven't been as far as I know, and fucking they're doing a European tour 685 00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,800 with Eternal Champion. It's like, bring fucking the summer Lands Champion double to 686 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,639 the UK, thanks you very much. There's a band in that realm who 687 00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:43,079 again really really small, much smaller than those ones who I think are fucking 688 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:46,480 brilliant. They're aunc caled Sonya, and I hear only yeah, yeah, 689 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:52,880 only good things about their live show from people in the US, and I'm 690 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,480 like, ah, yeah, like I really I would love to see that. 691 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,320 The someone on Twitter something they covered something the other day. What was 692 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,760 it? God, I would have to google that, which had not time 693 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,599 to do right here, but they were doing some really cool covers. I 694 00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:07,599 want to see Sonia. You mentioned High Command as a back with Vicious Blade, 695 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:12,159 who I really want to see over here. And then pivoting the death 696 00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:15,440 metal ones we've been you know, I've not fucking managed to catch one yet 697 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,039 through to fucking train strikes and all sorts of stuff, but Bloody Plantation come 698 00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,800 here semi regularly. I've seen two more before. I missed fucking a Feather 699 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,519 and Bone that night because of again transport bullshit. But stuff like that band 700 00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,760 who I am fairly sure have not come over here yet, even though I 701 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,159 had a ticket to see them once and it got canceled. Fucking always the 702 00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:39,119 story. Piss Grave a band like UK tour, piss Grave, count me 703 00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:45,519 the fucking John Waters with you. Yeah, piss Graves seemed very hard to 704 00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,880 actually kind of get out to do anything like they're tour they do at the 705 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,000 moment is the first thing and then in a while and traveling international doesn't see 706 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,519 to something that they do very much. But pis Grave Tour would be lovely. 707 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,400 They're Canadian as well, But I loves of Catia list That's another one 708 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,639 I'm curious about the opposite. I guess like if you are an American listener 709 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,559 or you know, maybe just perhaps elsewhere, what like UK bands I guess 710 00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:07,039 that have broken through maybe haven't made it as your neck of the woods would 711 00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,039 be like really down to see. But yeah, for me, it's major 712 00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:13,159 a couple of the underground death not ones like pis Grave, and then a 713 00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,239 lot of the kind of trad heavy metal ones like your Summer Lands and so 714 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,960 on, and Ben Wilmot asks it would never happen because of health and safety. 715 00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,880 But what bands can you think of that you'd enjoy watching entirely in pitch 716 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,159 black darkness, no lights whatsoever? Minus ten points if anyone suggests the darkness. 717 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:32,800 This is a bizarre idea, isn't it, Because even like you know, 718 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,840 there's I really enjoy watching bands who have sort of minimal light shows. 719 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,360 I guess you know often you know black metal bands by candlelight or whatever. 720 00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,679 But we're talking you can't see the fucking person in front of you. So 721 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,840 what would what would work? I mean, I I guess a Chelsea Wolf 722 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,599 shown that sort of saying would be very like kind of like spooky sounding like 723 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,880 or just like entirely in the most I mean, I don't think there's any 724 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:02,119 and I'd want to see in a situation where it's complete darkness, but something 725 00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:07,440 you know, etherial and spooky would probably be the right choice. Yeah, 726 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,119 because I'd be listening to like a fair bit of Woven Hand lately and that 727 00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:13,400 kind of sprung to mind as well as like, yeah, I don't think 728 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,320 i'd want anything like loud and heavy, because it'd be a bit imagine, 729 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,039 you know, dragged into some out or Sun like I mean Sun would be 730 00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:23,480 drone, will almost be like a century deprivation sort of tax. That would 731 00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:27,159 work. But in terms of like a conventional heavy band, right, like, 732 00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:30,000 you don't want to see a fucking hardcore band or a metal band playing 733 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,199 where you can't fucking see because it's a bit you know, it's like it's 734 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,159 you don't want to move basically, Yeah, it's like you know you I 735 00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:40,159 think at that point you'd stop enjoying it and start panicking about where the fuck 736 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,880 you were and you know it isn't going to bash into you at any moment, 737 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,480 and et cetera. So I did. I went down saying with you 738 00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:50,480 with that kind of something that sort of can hang in the air that isn't 739 00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:55,000 like overwhelming, like you know, something that's kind of folky like that would 740 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,840 be I guess if it again, I don't think I pick anything, but 741 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,000 if I had to do something like you know, gun to my head, 742 00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:05,840 you have to go watch a band in complete darkness I do that. I 743 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,119 mean I did go for the cacophony route. I thought Swans. If you're 744 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,840 there and you don't know what's coming next, you don't know how long any 745 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,840 song's gonna last. You can't see the people next to you, that would 746 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,199 be pretty cool. Or you know that Pig Destroyers show at Damnation last year, 747 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:23,559 you can't absolutely terrifying Roger Water's Dark Side of the Moon in Pitch Black 748 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:34,239 being read Tom or maybe just to do less than Jake. If I was 749 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,039 going to pick a heavy band, my brain went sort of like death Doom. 750 00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:40,039 Like again, I've seen like spectral Voice playing in like very low light, 751 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,239 and it wouldn't be too far. I guess down the same kind of 752 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,199 route to do that to. You know, darkness like Evoken would maybe work, 753 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:53,159 Ruins of Beaver as stuff like that, but nothing like Fast that would 754 00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:58,920 be a bit too kind of disorientating. As said, there were some other 755 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,480 questions that are probably pit back in next week, so check in once again 756 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,920 Patreon supporters this week. This weekend, we are going to sit down to 757 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,400 record what was announced last week, which is this year's twenty twenty three is 758 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,039 Halloween album Roulette in place of an album club pack this particular month, because 759 00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:17,519 hey, it's got more albums in it, You're getting more bang for your 760 00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:21,800 buck. This time. It's going to be myself, Elliott and Mark are 761 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,639 going to be sitting down. We have now you know, shared with each 762 00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:30,840 other our album picks, and we've been having some fucking stupid conversations just off 763 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,400 the back of you know what was what were selected. So God knows what 764 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,960 the story is going to be on the podcast. Some I guess, you 765 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,360 know, some some really good. But also I think this particular episode, 766 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,000 all we see be quite suited for some some daftness and uh, we've gone 767 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,360 there in a couple of places. I suppose I'm genuinely quite good. I'm 768 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,280 going to miss this one. But I'm also like my contributions to the Duffers 769 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:58,440 would have made it would have been too much like the power of like shar 770 00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:01,320 stupidity in this in this episode if I'd been there, like too much to 771 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,480 handle, I mean, Paring, you are a right that this does lend 772 00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:08,079 itself to sort of mischief and funniness. But I have a feeling you'd have 773 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:14,039 picked your choices if it was Saint Patrick's Day Album Club roulette anyway, to 774 00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:16,800 be honest, So I mean, to me, it's just who's going to 775 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,360 have their TikTok moment. I mean, place your bets. Now, that's 776 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,400 a great question. I mean, I really hope it's one of your ones 777 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,840 along the same it was more dispose and second place, I would go for 778 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,480 the less good one of my two would be very very endearing. Indeed, 779 00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,360 So you can find out all that we're talking about this coming weekend that's over 780 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,039 at Patment con Slash. That's not matter. Thank you very much for supporting 781 00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,480 it's what keeps us going. You' all can also find the Allison Chain special 782 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,800 that is currently still in the process of being made over there and everything else 783 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,239 well, so thank you very much. Now it is time to close us 784 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,800 off on this type of last with the release round up. I know there 785 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,199 were a few people who said they were sort of missing it last week because 786 00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:02,320 our review show was like slightly delayed in terms of when it had to go 787 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,480 out. So we have got a handful of releases from you know, last 788 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,360 week the twentieth that were not included in our review show, and then we've 789 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,480 got all of this week as well, So in that order, let's jump 790 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,119 back to last week and I guess the fact that you know it was a 791 00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:20,239 big review show, we didn't have time to talk about the new Within Temptation 792 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,599 album Bleed Out. That is, we also have time to talk about the 793 00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:25,800 Merca album Spine. I listened to that last night. We were talking I 794 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,440 guess about the single and how it's sort of almost like a kind of weirdly 795 00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:31,960 dream like. It's a return to metal after the Folk one, but it's 796 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,039 kind of a weirdly dreamy, not so fiery sort of version of it. 797 00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:38,199 That seemed to be the vibe for a lot of the album. It's quite 798 00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:43,880 short as well, so interesting stuff going on there if you are someone who 799 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,400 absolutely could not be you know, signed up for this year slam dunk fast 800 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,480 enough. Then Boys Like Girls released their first album, and I believe a 801 00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:53,840 fair while it's called Sunday at Foxwood Sam. Any any offering on a new 802 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,199 Boys Like Girls album? Are you are you going to it out? It 803 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,440 was a jump scare seeing it was out, especially the past tense one. 804 00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:04,239 Yeah, Like I no, genuine I didn't realize that new ad man. 805 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,639 I was like, oh, that's just why, And then you know they're 806 00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:09,599 back at Simlunk, So I guess I guess boys like Girls are back for 807 00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:14,360 good. They are, and we also have in more kind of pop punk 808 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,920 realms. That's I guess. Slightly newer than that is Knuckle Puck Kanukla pook 809 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,280 As. I can always never not read them losing what we love the name 810 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,400 of the album, Max Cavalierra was back. He's always a dependable guy, 811 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,000 isn't he? His go ahead and Die project. We reviewed the first album 812 00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:35,239 it was just like full on fucking crazy, crusty, nasty extreme metal. 813 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,159 Basically. They've come out with a second record. It's called Unhealthy Mechanisms. 814 00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:40,920 If you liked the first one, I'm sure you would like the second one. 815 00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:45,119 Kirith Ungal, let's go for some epic heavy metal here, some epic 816 00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:49,559 heavy metal greats. They've released their record called Dark Parade and this band again 817 00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,559 if you are into you again, if you were also pining for some of 818 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,480 those bands I mentioned to Tour the UK who have broken through in recent years. 819 00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:00,760 Kira fun Goal are one of the absolute legendsory and they did recently announced 820 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,679 that twenty twenty four that is going to be their final year as a band. 821 00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:06,519 They're going to do in their last shows. That's a band I really 822 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:07,920 fucking hope come over to the UK and play a show so I can see 823 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,800 them before they go. But this, I guess is going to end up 824 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,880 probably end up being their their swan song album, and I think it's very 825 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,840 very good. I maybe even like it more than the actual comeback album they 826 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,480 did, So if you want to hear some of that, you can go 827 00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:22,800 and listen to that. Slightly newer in that regard, there was a band 828 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,599 called Savage who released ab called Glory Riders. There's a song on this called 829 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,920 thirty and Dirty or something along those lines, and I was like, well, 830 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,440 at least you're going for women in your own age. You know, 831 00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:37,760 pop punk bands take notes clowns. Not very gooda for a band clowns, 832 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,599 but they seem quite okay. This is an Australian hardcore band. They've released 833 00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:45,639 record Endless. If you're a bit of an emo and maybe you want something 834 00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:49,679 that's a little bit more legitimate than boys like Girls or whatever as a band 835 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,199 all one word a week but still in bed and all lower case obviously chaos, 836 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,360 take the Wheel and I Am a Passenger. There was an album last 837 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,760 week some fucking stinky death metal. This is a kind of it. It's 838 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,119 like a sort of technical slam like it's really really intricate, but also really 839 00:55:04,159 --> 00:55:08,239 really like a bandward after Birth. They record were called in but not of 840 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,960 Okay, Martha, that's Martha, I suppose further in Evil. That's a 841 00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:17,079 kind of like epic black metal, d beat sort of crossover that sounded fairly 842 00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:22,079 decent. And we also had a split last week from the band's Worm and 843 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,719 Dream Unending, who we spoke about maybe about a year ago. That's a 844 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,320 Derek from Two Molds kind of more I really like that. Yeah, it's 845 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,239 kind of the more Proggy Pink Floyd esque, perhaps not Roger Waters esk, 846 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,800 you know, sort of death being project. They really a split together called 847 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,760 star Path. If particularly if you like the Dream Unending record from last year, 848 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,599 you should go and absolutely check out the split release as well. And 849 00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:47,519 that brings us to this week's releases. You may notice nothing from this week 850 00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:51,960 was included in our reviews episode lastly. That's because we had enough on our 851 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,400 plate already. Anything here that we do cover it will be in our upcoming 852 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,800 I guess, you know, November episodes. You can I'm sure you can 853 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,519 imagine there will be a few kicking us off there. We have the return 854 00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:05,079 of the Gasla Anthem history books. This is it's the first album to get 855 00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:07,840 hurt, isn't it like that was the one that Yeah, nearly nearly ten 856 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,159 years since their last album, so a big story they have. They comeback 857 00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:13,559 after nearly a decade of the Gasla Anthem. I'm sure there's a lot of 858 00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:16,039 opinions on that album floating around there. This time Come Tomorrow also like I 859 00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:19,639 like it a lot, but yeah, oh, there you go spoilers. 860 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,079 We also have Taking Back Sunday Back with one five to two. I believe 861 00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:25,440 that me and Mark spoke about a single from this and we were a bit 862 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,599 confused by what was going on, So I guess I'll have to ask him 863 00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:34,400 what he makes of the record. Overall elsewhere, Wargasm have got their album 864 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,599 called Venom. I've lost track of wit is this they like dates? This 865 00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:38,480 is their actual debut album. Yeah, it was like they had like mixtapes 866 00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:42,679 or whatever they were called EPs and all that shit. This is in terms 867 00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:45,360 of albums, their debut. Yeah, but I guess we are at least 868 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,320 partially obliged to check out the album and see, you know, what's what's 869 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,440 going on with it, what the what the deal is? And we also 870 00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:54,920 have poppy with her album Zig. I've kind of lost track at this point 871 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,159 of I guess how many poppy albums there. There's been a bunch of EPs 872 00:56:59,199 --> 00:57:02,159 again and yeah, and which ones have been sort of like more rock on 873 00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,079 metal adjacent than others. But I have enjoyed bits of poppy material over the 874 00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,679 years, so you know, hopefully something here. Speaking of losing track for 875 00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:13,239 a band I used to for my sins quite enjoying their first few records, 876 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,119 I have completely lost track of how many albums in this moment are on. 877 00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:20,400 But god Mode is out, some of it is a little bit more. 878 00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:22,159 I think In the Wheel has a lot of you folks out there. Year 879 00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:25,159 of the Knife, their album No Love Losses, is of course a very 880 00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:30,079 sort of momentous record for them at the moment. We spoke about that recently. 881 00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:34,679 Very you know it's going to be fucking good. I can guarantee you 882 00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:36,760 that Year of the Knife, you know, at one of the most absolutely 883 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,440 vicious, slamming hardcore bands around at the moment. But yeah, definitely go 884 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,760 and give that one to listen and if that hasn't you know, quenched your 885 00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:47,760 If you were a double bill of like violent heavy music, this is it. 886 00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:52,400 We've also got end with the Sin of Human Frailty, which is that 887 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,679 guy from Counterparts when he's not crying and is instead shouting and having a meltdown 888 00:57:55,679 --> 00:58:00,320 on Twitter, yeah, being fucking angry that and seemed to be really popular, 889 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,599 so good for them, And this was a sort of last minute edition. 890 00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:06,360 But this is something that's coming out on Church Road, and I think 891 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,280 if you're into your kind of like, uh, you can all you know 892 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,320 Church Road and what preceded it that kind of style of like you know, 893 00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:17,000 venomous but intricate sort of hardcore and stuff. There's a band called Ryle who 894 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:22,199 released now called Pessimist Jumping over to you, just like kind of really bubbily 895 00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:27,559 fun pop rock punk stuff. There's a band called No Bro with a record 896 00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:31,519 called Set Your Pussy Free. I saw that band supporting Pup. Yeah, 897 00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:35,719 really fun, they were really likable. I'm gonna have to check this out 898 00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:37,559 and see if it's worth kind of dilating on any further. And then as 899 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:42,679 we move over into extreme stuff, we've got the return of Autopsy just after 900 00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:46,119 a year. Celebrate fiends everywhere. Their record ashes, Organs, blood and 901 00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:52,079 crypts. Just fucking They've already got torn ces, hackles and graves, haven't 902 00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:54,960 they. They're just absolute, exhaustingly everything shopping list, isn't it like a 903 00:58:55,079 --> 00:59:00,440 shopping list? They're doll in the house up for Halloween. Band I really 904 00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:07,079 recommend a band called Wayfarer with their record American Gothic for your you know, 905 00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:13,280 kind of Americana expansive black metal. Another band I'm a really big fan of 906 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:19,039 the recommend is the Slovakian band Malacarpatan with their record Vertumna Caesar. A band 907 00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:22,039 I don't think weve spoken about on the podcast before, but they make kind 908 00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:29,199 of really bizarre Slovakian folk horror inflected first wave black metal, like if you 909 00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:32,159 want your kind of venom and merciful fate inflected with like spooky tales and flutes 910 00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:36,559 and all sorts of shit. They rip, and I'm excited to check out 911 00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:40,000 their new record. Elsewhere we got some death metal end Seeker and Global Worming 912 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,639 that was not a typo in this is The record is called Global Worming. 913 00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:49,519 Fucking doccan have got a record out where it's come from. I didn't know 914 00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:54,400 Docan were back. Heaven comes down, new doccan great. And as we 915 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:59,119 move for the last couple into sort you know of epic doom territories, we've 916 00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:00,840 got Sorcerer, you know, the Reaper. That band played Bloodstock a couple 917 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,639 of years ago. They were pretty decent, and then more of a kind 918 01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:07,360 of you know, a low fi kind of sort of band camp version of 919 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,079 that. But you know again, epic doom and epic heavy metal is kind 920 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:13,960 of all the rage at the moment in circles. It's a back called legendary 921 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,320 with time immortal wept. So go and forth, you know, go forth 922 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:22,840 and feast and all of that. Thank you very much for listening. We 923 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,440 will be back next week with another Hyperblasts. We will be back this coming 924 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,480 weekend with the Halloween Roulette. You talk about some of those wondrous, wondrous 925 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,800 records that we have got with us, So thank you very much. Join 926 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,960 us for all of that. Patron of the comslats, that's not matter as 927 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,960 the place to go if you know, if you miss our voices and you 928 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,280 want to hear many many hours of stuff on top of all of that, 929 01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:47,639 and yeah, enjoy those records. See you next time.