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We are live with this Hard Truths
number three with Dave Rossi. The purpose

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hard Truths is to get to those
hard trews that no one wants to believe,

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the science that we don't understand,
and so we are trying to get

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to it down with the people that
are the experts, the engineers and the

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physicists. Today I bring you Dave
Rossi, Defense engineer, tech works with

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experiments and advanced propulsion. Dave,
thank you for being here, Sir Ashton,

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thank you so much for having me. It's an honor and a pleasure

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to be here. Yeah. So
first of all, let's just dig in.

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What is your background, Dave?
How did you get involved with defense

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contracting, advanced propulsion? Whatever you
can tell us. I don't want to

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push too deep and you know,
get you in any trouble, but whatever

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you're free to tell us, go
ahead, no problem. Long story short,

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I started a podcast, which led
me about two years into doing that

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podcast, maybe a year and a
half into wanting to essentially not so much

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study and analyze information and data as
much as I loved it, but said

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to myself, why not try and
build something and more of an intuitive sort

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of notion and so ended up assembling
a couple of things that got the attention

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of some interesting people out of the
United States in particular. It probably didn't

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help at where I was at the
time was relatively close to a military base

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that was in Canada because I'm from
Toronto, Canada, but got the attention

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of some individuals presented to various individuals
at the DoD. This is a couple

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of years ago at this point.
From there, moved into establishing my own

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company that does consulting and contracting for
basically the I guess you could say some

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of the more alternative or fringe physics
that mainstream science would like to call it

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as such, but in my opinion
is physics that's sort of been hidden in

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plain sight, if you will,
for quite some time that I think people

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should understand and grasp more and more
because it's really creating a cognitive dissonance in

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my opinion, with respects to what
people see on their phones and what they

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see in person, and the topics
of debate in that angle have really swayed

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from what the science has been able
to do from my experiments and experience,

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whether it's in the laboratory theoretically,
but of course, experimentally would be the

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most important thing. And so when
I saw, for example, the MH

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three seventy footage, I said to
myself, I know there's a lot of

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people out there saying it's not legitimate
or what have you, but I'm of

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the opinion that it very well is
legitimate based on experiments that I've conducted on

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much smaller scales. And so I
kind of have one foot in the defense

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contracting area on a sort of small
to middle level, and then one foot

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out in the public because I think
that there needs to be a way to

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get this knowledge out there without to
a degree, without I guess you could

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say, permitting people to understand how
to build these things and then weaponize them,

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but perhaps gain an understanding to realize
that there's a responsibility we have if

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we're going to be discussing these types
of technologies and the consequences they have.

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So long story short, it made
some various presentations to some individuals that DoD

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was sort of thrown around to some
different departments of it, and then from

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there decided that I didn't want to
be an employee but rather a contract or

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consultant, and so from there I've
been gracious enough to work on certain projects

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that again sound extremely out there,
but we see if we look at the

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literature, for example, science fact
has outstripped science fiction for quite some time.

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It just becomes quote unquote unbelievable when
it translates from a physics paper to

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an experiment in the laboratory. But
that's sort of the general abstract background story

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of how I got into all of
this. I don't have any actual degrees.

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I'm self taught, and I think
that's perhaps in the humblest way I

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could say, is perhaps what impressed
some of these dood individuals the most.

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And then from there I tend to
have a knack for it. Still work

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very hard, but at the same
time, I want to try and bring

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some of this understanding and knowledge out
to the public in a simplistic fashion so

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it becomes very easy to understand,
which is hopefully something we can do here

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today. We can sort of jump
between the complex elements of it and translate

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that into a simple understanding for the
not so scientific individuals. Yeah, the

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people like me. So I guess
what I got out of that is your

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Canadian and we'll give you as not
just kidding, yes, yeah, no,

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I love all our Canadian brothers and
sisters out there, but no,

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I think the real important part there
is that you actually work on the experimental

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side. You know. The biggest
thing that I heard is that you've done

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experiments that led you to when you
looked at the videos, thought oh wow,

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you know, this could be consistent
with some of the work that I've

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done, which is really what I'm
hoping we can dig into a lot today

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in terms of going through the science
aspect. And I know you're super smart,

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much smarter than I am, especially
when it comes to the science aspects

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here, So you know, any
of that stuff you want to name drop

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the you know, scientific papers and
physicists, et cetera. For our academic

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academics who are following, that's great, and then for our layman you know,

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we can kind of talk about some
analogies about you know, what this

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really means on the surface level,
because I think the big takeaway that you

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just mentioned there is the advanced scientific
concepts that people think are fantastical, but

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the reality is we are just we
are on the verge of changing the world.

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And you know, I think that's
some of the experiments that I've seen

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that you've shown me will help prove
that. So let's jump right into it,

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sir, Where do you want to
begin in terms of which scientific aspect

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would you like to dig into first? Sure, well, there's a few

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different things that we can start with. One of the things that I would

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like to say if I could,
is that sure the audience in general is

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we want let's start with some simple
concepts. We want to realize that a

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lot of these effects that we're seeing, whether it's out of the MH three

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seventy video or whether it's out of
you know, a UAP or you know,

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even paranormal experiences, a lot of
this has to do with the notion

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of curving space time, essentially not
viewing things as a straight line, but

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rather as a curve. Now,
what becomes very interesting there is that this

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was discovered. And I'm not claiming
that anything that I had developed was actually

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a novel discovery. I would dare
to say was a rediscovery. I know

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there have been many individuals before me, even before my time, that discovered

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the same things and were suppressed unfortunately. But we want to focus on the

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notion of curving space time, and
that the idea of creating either a curve

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and space time, or creating an
X, if you will, whether it's

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using light or whether it's using electromagnetism, begins to detect and transmit and also

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emit some very interesting phenomena. Now, a practical example of this curving of

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space time, if you will,
has to do with the utilization of for

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example, LIGO, the laser Interfrometry
Gravitational Observatory. We see that through the

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intersection at the point at where the
lasers intersect, it's been claimed we can

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detect gravity waves. Now what's interesting
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is very similar to sort of a
stacked books example, and that is that

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we have one laser beam and then
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that second beam, we can argue, is in a sort of super position

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type we could say setup that is
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a hint perhaps that a lot of
these effects that we see, whether it's

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through the ORBS the on flight three
seventy or through other UAP and paranormal phenomena,

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these effects may be of what we
call in science second order. So

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in other words, one must meet
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give birth to this second effect.
Now, giving birth to this second effect

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is what has been privately referred to
as something called phase conjugation. Essentially,

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that's a fancy way for saying that
the particles make love instead of fight.

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If the particles fight or clash,
they create what we have known for decades

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to be called explosions. But if
at the plank level, use things,

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for example, like interferometers, or
using things like superconductors or even as mister

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Paieza said, room temperature superconductors,
if these particles can actually entangle or hug

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themselves, if you will, what
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I'm using my hands to give hopefully
a visual end, what happens is they

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start to become self assembling, and
they essentially start to curve into each other

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in a torroidal fashion. Now,
on the theoretical side, we know that

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Einstein's theory of general relativity permits for
the curving of space time and essentially permits

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for torsion, and it's in there, but it's been vastly dismissed for a

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number of reasons. We can dare
I say, we can say this has

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been the case for diabolical reasons.
Point being is that there are certain concepts

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that exist within particle physics that don't
exist within electrical engineering. And this ultimately

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has to do with the fact that
certain institutions like the National Science Foundation and

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other groups pass down these models to
these new smart students who are very smart,

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yes, but they're not going to
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they're definitely not going to be questioning
the current models that are given to them.

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Now, these models that are given
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a curved one. So this is
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for example, ISS footage that sees
that has speculatively seen craft that seem to

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have a sort of concave bubble around
them, that makes perfect sense because from

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my experiments and others, what you'll
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he is not within that curved space
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five feet away from that experiment at
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flat intersection of that phenomena. He's
not going to see that phenomena in curved

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space time. And in order to
see it in curved space time on for

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my science friends, we need to
assume a three of three spatial dimensions and

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one time dimension in a Lagrangian form. For those that may be interested in

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understanding the real theoretical side, we
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contour integrals to then essentially create a
second order effect that can actually go all

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the way up to twelve space with
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These theoretical concepts, whether it's Landau
and left Shits, whether it's Myran Evans,

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whether it's Terry Barrett, whether it's
Tom Beard, and whether it's to

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a certain degree doctor hal Pudoff,
whether it's Salpayez is super force, these

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are all, in my opinion,
saying essentially the same things, which are

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that when you include torsion and the
curving of space time, you can get

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the effects that we've seen, for
example, in a vortex like manner,

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very much akin to the MH three
seventy footage. Now, what's very interesting

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about all of this is that this
gives rise to something that many university students

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should know about, particularly in optical
physics, which is something called SPDC stimulated

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parametric down conversion, and it's also
been called second harmonic generation as well as

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SPUC stimulated parametric upconversion. What this
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of space time right using the magnetic
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which is a fancy way for saying
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of the vacuum or ether that the
magnetic flux has allowed for you to have.

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And then it is combining that with
a dielectric curvature. Essentially that then

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creates what's called a gradient, which
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Now, what is that effect?
The second effect that occurs after electro magnetism

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and light met a certain condition is
sound. Sound is what we now call

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phonons with an N. Instead of
photons for lights, we have phonons with

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an N. Now what we're seeing
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laser being sort of being one and
beam two, except now these are not

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beams in this case. We're doing
phase conjugation, second harmonic generation using in

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this particular case, electromagnetism in light. So after the sound concept or the

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sound particle is reached, the question
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very interesting because publicly. Phonons have
a are a spin zero particle. In

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my opinion, they should rather be
a spin one point five or a spin

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two because they give rise to the
effects that we see in for example,

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the MH three seventy video. With
that said, if I could just sort

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of wrap this up, the we
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level, whether it's with our cameras
or with our detectors or what have you,

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we can only collect as good of
the data as the detectors that we

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deploy and emit in certain these instances. So when we see the sudden disappearance

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of this plane craft, for example, with these orbs creating a vortex light

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which seems to be dare I say, wormhole effect depositing energy at a particular

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point, the camera is only going
to pick up the flat effect of that,

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because the camera by definition does not
know how to render something that is

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topologically stable in a higher dimension literally, and so that is what will also

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create the effect of things that begin
to pixelate, for example, certain whether

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it's software editors or cameras and so
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gravitational wave using these second order effects, you begin to bend light as well,

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and we notice that light and gravity
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one another, and so if you
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diffractive properties, you cannot just make
yourself invisible. You can then induce a

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state that has an anti photon path, meaning essentially the negantropic version of what

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we normally see as linear time.
Negantropic means time reversed. And we know

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through for example, out of los
Alamos, Hosburg and Visser prove that the

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throat of a wormhole is all one
needs to both make and understand and engineer

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such a traversible effect or a wormhole
itself, because when you tap that zero

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point, you tap essentially the oscillation
or the ziturbuagung of the local particles,

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and those local particles if certain conditions
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make love or entangle with that zero
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time that you pick literally, you
can begin to induce the effects that we've

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seen both in the video and otherwise. And we know, for example that

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if we look in the literature with
respects to vortex dynamics or vortex is are

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seen in superfluids and superconductors. The
literature is there. All one has to

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do is essentially scale that up in
their mind. Now, to wrap this

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up, I'll say, I'm not
asking for anyone to blindly believe me,

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but listen to what I'm saying and
do your research. You'll find that these

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vortex is tend to appear over and
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lot of what we're seeing, whether
it's in the three seventy videos or otherwise,

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and those effects will create what's called
a lens thirring frame dragging effect the

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same way. For example, that
if you take your mouse on a very

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old computer, you pick up an
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it across the screen really quick,
you sort of see that delay of the

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mouse kind of going back and forth. That would be the same type of

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effect that we would see when space
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curving of space time instead of thinking
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So yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Man. I have a couple

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follow up questions on some of those
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want to talk a little bit about
ligo because I've heard LEGO get talked about

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a lot. Can you elaborate on
exactly experiments, because my understanding is that

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LIGO experiments I've had to do with
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coming from neutron stars that are enacting
with one another. You know what,

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more can you teach us about the
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and what they are Sure well not
to be a conspiracy theorist, if you

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will, but I think that there's
a lot that LIGO has not revealed when

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it comes to detecting gravitational waves and
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atmosphere, let alone within you know, neutron stars and all that kind of

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stuff. And the reason I say
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our telescopes today have convex lenses rather
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my opinion that when LIGO, whether
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a different conversation, but it is
of my opinion they are seeing far more

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than they they led on. In
addition to I do believe that LIGO,

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if they if they shifted their detectors
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They would see basickly craft all over
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because the second and we know this
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you can do with a laser beam
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beam and deploy some I believe Chris
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deploy some mist. If you will
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you'll begin to see literally the waves
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quantum vacuum or ether begin to occur. Now, if you apply that to

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a multimillion dollar tool like Ligo,
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you will begin to see a lot
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a fundamental energy, but as an
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one beam, and in two,
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then a fourth one, and then
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but what you begin to do is
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that acts as a sort of transducer
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detect gravitational waves. And I think
that through that we can find on the

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high frequency side, quite a bit
of perhaps what our own military is doing,

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as well as maybe others as well, because those gravitational waves would have

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to be how can you say,
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craft to operate, which would explain
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EMPs or we see for example,
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and craft get close to those fields, they begin to crash because of the

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fact that the gravitational coherence has been
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these devices that are being deployed and
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or in this general area essentially untangles
or how can I say unkings, basically

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the energy that would be encompassing both
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the craft as well as any other
effects that it could be doing outside or

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inside the craft as well. That's
really interesting because I think that from the

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ufiology perspective. There's this big argument
that the people that are against us say,

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as well, if these craft are
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just because you build something for specific
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effects. Well, I think mistakes
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well, if I could say very
quickly, we have to look we have

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to look at the planet as well. With respects to the Tesla technology,

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we must, in my opinion,
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particle accelerators or organic electromagnetic beings,
it gives substantiation to when one goes outside

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and grounds themselves, and you know, bare feet, they tend to find

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they feel more energy and whatnot tend
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this nature. And even as we
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engineering, we know that grounding rods
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begins to arc. Arc means it
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nature giving us a hint naturally that
space time or the quantum vacuum wants to

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curve instead of actually behave in a
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give one example for those in the
audience that may be interested in more of

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the liquid chemistry side, Say we
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in the laboratory, we put it
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and we neutralize the two. And
what normally happens is we expect to

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get heat or what's called an exothermic
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if you neutralize the two and you
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reaction. What that is indicating is
that there is an effect going on that

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is surpassing the current flat theoretical space
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to torsion longitudinally, not with the
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but with a Z or z axis
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what that tells us is that there
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specific hydroxide and acid that stabilizes disequilibrium, so it prevents an exothermic reaction.

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basically all the devices that we use, all of the things that were taught

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in mainstream physics and even in general
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Man has a closed mouth, meaning
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Man, there's only so much you
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system. Now, if pac Man's
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use the local vacuum as the actual
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rise to these second order effects?
It's in dare I say fractal? I

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don't think it's that far off from
people who have had, you know,

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psychedelic experiences where they say they're always
seeing spirals and fractals of spirals and so

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on, would say there's certainly something
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that's that's really closely aligned with our
last podcast guest, which is Bob Greenier

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and his theory of you know,
fractal troidal moments, right, and chloroids

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as well. It's like it seems
like everything comes back to toroids. Can

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you explain why that shape is so
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there sure it seems as though one
thing I'll tell you is that the more

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I experiment and the more I I
do my research, even the private research,

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especially, the more I realize I
don't know anything about anything. Just

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to be clear and to me that
that speaks to me philosophically, as in

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the joy is in the journey.
But it seems as though that there is

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a strong indication that there is within
this structure of our reality, putting the

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electromagnetic basis or pillars of it aside. From a geometric standpoint, it seems

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as though these toroids and toroidal geometries
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form or another. That doesn't mean
that we always see them as torroidal,

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but we see, for example,
that curves and spirals are quite common within,

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for example, the way that nature
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that nature manifests, and so on
and so forth. We found as well

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that it's been shown in the absence
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laboratory experiment in a closed off room, in the absence of E and B

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fields, you still have torroidal geometries
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that this quantum vacuum or this ether
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may in fact have a dare I
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memory in that regard, So when
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it comes down to the fact that
the universe slash reality that we are

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in tends to really like the vortex
torroidal geometry of this reality at the core

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of it. I couldn't tell you
why, the same way that I must

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quote mister Fireman when he said that
if you look at energy or force,

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we ultimately we don't after a certain
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We don't have an adequate definition of
force. There's no definition of what

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energy ultimately is. And so that's
when I think it turns into more of

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a philosophical metaphysical debate rather than a
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I think that's sort of the beauty
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these two material and non material world
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to integrate. In that sense.
Hopefully I answered the question, but ultimately

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I couldn't tell you other than what
I'm familiar with. Experimentally, which is

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that nature in reality seems to be
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like electricity and magnetism. Yeah.
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too is the pac Man analogy,
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me, when I'm thinking about that, I'm thinking, is this a capabilit

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of free energy being kind of sucked
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Right? And I think that's something
that I had seen on some science

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shows some years back as well,
which I was very interested. That space

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isn't empty. There's stuff going on
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you were kind of digging at that
that could be theoretically possible? One percent?

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I think it's more than theoretical.
As a matter of fact, I

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know it's engineer It's possible in an
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make a strong argument that the devices
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build, regardless of what they are, whether it's metallic orbs or something else,

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whether it's the coming from us or
others, if you will, ultimately

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these devices, whether they're for generating
over unity, meaning you get more energy

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coming out than what you put into
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propulsion in an instant inertia like sense, or the notion of defying gravity and

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all of that. I think at
the end of the day, no matter

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which way you slice it, you're
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can I put this, utilize these
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uh, sort of facilitators of the
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So we're we're sort of shaping what

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nature is shaping to what nature is
trying to tell us. Yeah, that's

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awesome so to speak. Yeah,
and uh, not to rewind too much,

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but I thought there's an analogy that
I wanted to bring up when you

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were talking about the radars that were
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I probably interfering with UAPs or other
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floating freely. The analogy that I
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I like the Marvel movies is like
the or actually maybe it's not Marvel,

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but Venom. When Venom and the
he gets hip, I soonic attack,

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right, that's his weakness that makes
the like get you know, it's it's

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like it's weakness, right, or
it's like it's kryptonite if you want to

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think about from Superman analogy, would
that be accurate in terms of what you

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think the interaction there is with the
radars that we don't need a weapon,

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it's with just the radar and manipulating
the electromagnetic fields can destabilize the propulsion of

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some of these craft. Is that
what you're just hypothetically thinking there this to

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a strong degree, yes. And
this is where as a matter of fact,

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I must give the credit to Eric
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what I'm about to say in particular, I don't agree with mister Weinstein in

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a lot of areas, but in
this area I do, which is that

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this is a form of understanding science
more than technology. There's a difference,

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and I appreciated when mister Weinstein said
that quite some time ago in his conversation

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with doctor Pudoff, which is where
he said, I wouldn't be thinking about

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new technology, but a new understanding
of science, basically doing to Einstein what

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Einstein did to Newton in terms of
finding a more fundamental way of understanding the

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universe and therefore allowing for vacuum extraction
and such to occur, and I believe

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that that is definitely what is happening. Yeah, yeah, I think what's

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happening as well, for a very
simple description is we're essentially we're seeing this

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this water bottle and I said, and

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I covered the bottom half of it, and I said, Ashton, you

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only see the top half. And
then you go, Dave, what are

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you talking about. You just covered
the bottom half. And then I go,

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no, no, I didn't,
No, I didn't, and then

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I start calling you names and attacking. That's basically what's happening in the scientific

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community. There is a refusal to
acknowledge this other half of I'm not kidding,

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whether it's in chemistry, whether it's
in particle physics, condensed matter physics

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except for at the classified levels,
or at the uh, you know,

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at the levels of the military industrial
complex on the contractor side. But yeah,

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it's unfortunate to see that that some
have tried to put a sort of

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intellectual property label on science that should
be discoverable for all, and so it's

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kind of it's kind of unfortunate in
that sense. But that's one of the

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reasons that I'm speaking with you today
as well. So, yeah, two

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things I want to get in myselfbox
real quick is that I always evaluate people

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based on the things that they say. You know, I think then what

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you brought up today is that you
know, you don't have the formal training

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and schooling and what have you,
but you taught yourself right, and the

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things that you're saying, we don't
have to believe what you're saying. We

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can verify them. You know.
That's something that I say myself and my

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own investigation, which I think lends
a huge amount of credibility to your statements,

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is that people will go ahead.
I appreciate that because the it's it,

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I will say, it's not an
easy thing to do. But if

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one looks at the academic literature from
the late eighteen hundreds up until today,

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if one knows what to pick out
and what to find in terms of where

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to look with regards to this angle
of science being suppressed, it is there.

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The effects are also being hidden in
sort of code words that in terms

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of modern publications, the effects are
there and they do exist. That's one

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of the things that's also frustrated me
quite avidly, which is that people quite

409
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.720
often say, well, where's the
proof I want to see peer reviewed literature.

410
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.599
It's been there. It's been there
for decades, except we need to

411
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:21.680
realize that these people manipulate words.
These institutions publish papers in a certain you

412
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.640
know, the same way for example, that if the same way that you

413
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.319
would label something with, for example, talking about instead of the word oil,

414
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:36.200
we can say hydrocarbons. It means
the same thing, but perceptually it

415
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.920
doesn't interest people, and so therefore
they never look at it. But it

416
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.640
is there. So that's part of
the reason why I do this podcast is

417
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.400
that so much of science of what
I realized as a matter of you know,

418
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:52.359
using the right words, a matter
of names dropped or slipping my mind.

419
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:53.720
But what I was going to get
at as well, is that a

420
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.680
lot of what you're doing, you
know, I think that scientists have this

421
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.400
idea, or academics i'll call them, not necessarily science of cutting each other

422
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.559
down, saying no, that can't
be possible, as can't be possible.

423
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.519
Science as a matter of building on
each other's work, adding to it.

424
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:10.119
Right. It's not usually that someone
was wrong, it is that that didn't

425
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:15.240
have an interpret Our interpretations advance our
understanding advances. Right. It's not that

426
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.960
Einstein was wrong is I think he's
one of the greatest minds ever in the

427
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.079
history of the world. It's just
that he ran out of time, right.

428
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.400
If he had had infinite time,
his own understanding probably would have advanced

429
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.519
as well. There's speculation behind there's
speculation behind the scenes, the rumors that

430
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.119
have gone around for decades that he
in fact realized where he went wrong at

431
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.079
a classified level, and or he
died had known yeah, where he looked

432
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:42.119
at Maxwell's heavy Sides interpretation of Maxwell's
equations and said, holy shit, I've

433
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:48.480
been wrong. There's some some documents
behind the scenes that do substantiate that.

434
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.039
But that that gives rise to what
mister Payez said that I cannot emphasize enough,

435
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.279
which is it makes one wonder how
long has this been known for?

436
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.920
And this we can argue goes all
the way back to the late eighteen eighty

437
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:04.279
basically, if I could say very
quickly to give context to more of the

438
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:10.559
scientific side of the audience. Essentially, what happened was that heavy Side's interpretation

439
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:17.319
of Maxwell's quaternions found an analogy between
electromagnetism and gravity, a direct connection between

440
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.160
the two. Now, it's been
largely rumored that heavy Side in fact screwed

441
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.839
up these equations, when it's quite
to the contrary. Essentially what's been what's

442
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:35.160
been What happened was that there was
a sort of an interpretation made by Pointing

443
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.960
as we know named after the Pointing
vector these days, as well as heavy

444
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:47.599
Side, And what essentially happened there
was that heavy Side found this incredible topological

445
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:53.559
effect in theory that the great Heinrich
Lorenz also noticed as well. He understood

446
00:32:53.720 --> 00:33:00.279
both angles of these different gentlemen's perspective
in terms of interpreting Maxwell's quaternions vents,

447
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.519
basically said, at the time,
my god, there's far more energy coming

448
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:07.279
out of the generator than what we're
putting into the shaft of a certain circuit,

449
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.480
for example. He didn't know how
to explain it because at the time

450
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:15.160
you would have been violently attacked as
being a perpetual motion nut. So what

451
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.799
he did was he spoke about it
in vectored angles, and he said,

452
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.880
the energy, this outpouring of energy
that has far more coming out than what

453
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:30.079
we're putting in, has no physical
significance. That's basically like saying that you

454
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.720
got a big boat on your water, and you got all this wind going

455
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.279
around you, but the wind doesn't
touch your boat. Now, what if

456
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.880
you found a way to take that
wind and bring it to your boat so

457
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:43.119
it could push your boat. But
instead someone on the boat goes, no,

458
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:44.920
no, no, it's not touching
our boat, so it can never

459
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.640
be done. Forget it. That's
basically what happened, and then it later

460
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.880
on got the equations and all of
that got classified. We see, for

461
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:58.200
example, even in the nineteen eighties
under the setup of the Direct Energy Weapons

462
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:05.440
SDI Strategic Defense Initiative under Reagan with
Norad Edward Teller went on a show.

463
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.280
I forgot the name of the show, not Dick Corvett, he went on,

464
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:13.199
and I forgot the guy's name,
Shoots. But anyways, point being

465
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.079
was that it was more of a
show that had more intellectual discussion, and

466
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.440
even mister Edward Teller talked about how
even in the eighties, those that were

467
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:24.639
not privy or given access to the
classified equations that proved that these direct energy

468
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:30.599
weapons could be possible thought it was
nonsense until they a lot of these professors

469
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.920
were brought in and briefed on it, and Teller said he felt even in

470
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.719
the eighties that there was far too
much secrecy being driven to classification in North

471
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.519
America, he said at the time, which he was right. He goes,

472
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.719
the Soviets have access to this literature
openly, and in North America were

473
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:50.599
classifying it. So it's been there. But I mean, I can,

474
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.639
yeah, give no I can give
example after examples. But I love it

475
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.840
all the knowledge, honestly, and
I think the chat as well, and

476
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.719
everybody who's listening in as well as
enjoying it. I think that the word

477
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.199
I was looking for earlier is the
syntax, right, is that the syntax

478
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.679
that we use is so important in
science and it also develops over time.

479
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.920
You know, as part of the
case that I've been doing, I've been

480
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:13.800
developing my syntax. We moved away
from like black hole wormhole, and now

481
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:19.599
we're talking about macroscopic phase conjugation and
potentially the unification of quantum and macro,

482
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.079
which I want to discuss with you
here in a moment as well. I

483
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.199
think that the one thing I wanted
to ask before that, though, is

484
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.679
when you talked about the I don't
know if it was the photons or the

485
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.800
waves, the particles making love and
not war. Are we talking about the

486
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:36.880
same concept as Bose Einstein content state
there where we are moving ferm as to

487
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.519
bosons or is that something different?
Actually, well, very good question,

488
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:45.679
I appreciate it. Bose Einstein condensates
give rise to those effects. Bose Einstein

489
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:51.960
condensates create the appropriate environment for those
effects to occur for the second order entanglement,

490
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.159
and past that third order, fourth
order all the way up to twelfth

491
00:35:54.280 --> 00:36:00.079
order effects to occur. But second
order effects already induce what you've seen in

492
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.280
the three seventy video for example.
So let's just stick to second effect order

493
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:06.960
effects for now. But yeah,
yeah, So just hypothetically, though,

494
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.519
what is above those order effects?
Like, how would we how would you

495
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.000
describe that or give an analogy to
what that is? Because I mean,

496
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.039
if second order effects is what we're
seeing that Mastree seventy videos, we're already

497
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:19.119
talking about magic in my opinion,
right, So well, this is where

498
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.840
again it becomes indiscernible, and so
this is why we start to get into

499
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.480
I don't even know how to describe
it. So a basic example of just

500
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.960
a second order effect would not just
be the three seventy video, but for

501
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:37.239
example, say I'll give an example
for the females in the audience where imagine

502
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:38.880
your purse. You go out for
a dinner with some friends and you say,

503
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.960
oh, my gosh, I forgot
my phone at home. Instead of

504
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.679
driving all the way back home,
imagine unzipping your purse and opening it and

505
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.519
seeing a part of your room there, reaching your hand through the purse,

506
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.880
and then your hand it actually comes
out the other end in your room,

507
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.760
and then you grab your phone from
your desk and you bring it back up.

508
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:59.679
That's a second order effect. When
we get into anything past that,

509
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.360
you start getting into I'm hesitant to
say this, so I say this very

510
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.519
carefully speculatively, but you start to
get into some things that are seen like

511
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:12.760
in the Doctor Strange movies when you
see the dimensional fractals and all that kind

512
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.320
of stuff operate, and it becomes
very very interesting. Now, if you

513
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.079
took any of that, and you
took your phone and you filmed it while

514
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.840
you're in the lab, basically your
phone unless you were actually no even if

515
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.679
you were inside it, because the
lenses convex that you would essentially your phone

516
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.400
would get blurred like crazy. You
would be zooming in and out of focus.

517
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:36.800
It wouldn't start going haywire basically because
there's this again. If we go

518
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.400
back to dragging that mouse across your
screen, seeing the drag effect, that's

519
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:45.559
basically what's happening in the laboratory in
the vicinity of the phase conjugation occurring.

520
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.519
Interesting, Yeah, I think maybe
along those same lines of it. If

521
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.079
it's not, you know, correct
me is that when you talked about the

522
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.880
laser beams kind of converging on a
point. The thing that confuses me about

523
00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:00.639
that is that photons are bosons,
right, so they can stack on each

524
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.239
other on the same point. So
that's the case. Why when we shoot

525
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.000
lasers at each other do they not
just stack up? Or are you saying

526
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.000
they do stack up? But why
are they then causing this additional order effect

527
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:15.480
to occur? You know, why
they curving or forming that conducius or whatever

528
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.239
it was that you were mentioning before
or sure this yeah, sure, no

529
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:23.679
problem. So ideally this isn't as
simple as just taking two lasers and intersecting

530
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:28.320
them. To be clear, this
has to do with inducing this effect at

531
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.760
the plank scale at first, which
is why, in my opinion, mister

532
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:37.320
Payez emphasizes superconductors quite often, because
we know, for example, that certain

533
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:44.920
types of parametric oscillators, certain types
of UV lasers mixed with superconductive properties can

534
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:51.440
access this plank or if even putting
superconductors aside, making these lasers interact inside

535
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:58.519
of a Boze Einstein condensate first allows
the plank scale to lock in with the

536
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.639
field interaction, if you will.
From there, what happens is there is

537
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.519
this and this coducious like effect as
well, is reminiscent not just within our

538
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:13.480
DNA, but dare I say,
within the overall nature of the torroidal reality

539
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.760
that we're in. So this coducious
effect is something else as well that I

540
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:21.280
will say is by definition not something
I can explain as to why it's there,

541
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.840
except for the fact that it is
part of the torroidal curving of space

542
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:32.760
time in general. That seems to
again explain quite a bit of the quote

543
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:39.639
unquote uncomplete or incomplete theories publicly.
But it's dare I say, it's so

544
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.199
eloquently simple that it's been dismissed and
it's been right under our noses the whole

545
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:51.679
time, having to do with essentially
the square root of electric permittivity and magnetic

546
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:55.199
permeability. But as to why that
coducious forms as per your question, I

547
00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.320
can't necessarily say other than the fact
that when we think about curving space time

548
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.800
and then we curve it to another
second order, we're going to see those

549
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:09.960
curves start to essentially assimilate and self
assemble when oscillated as well. But they

550
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.000
must lock in at the plank level
first. So this is not as simple

551
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.519
as just taking two laser beams and
make like you know, from Amazon Walmart

552
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.559
and just making them intersect. I
wish it was that simple. It's not

553
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.320
that simple ultimately, but although in
fairness, there have been quite a few

554
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.920
people that have. For example,
I have a Patreon from when I start

555
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.559
had the show, and there are
some people on there, for example,

556
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.360
that are getting some very interesting effects
without having to lock in at the plank

557
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.639
scale. So two follow up questions
from that, Well, first one,

558
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.719
I guess is how do we define
the plant scale, So just for people

559
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.800
like show and people who are less
versed in the academic side of it,

560
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.039
like when we're talking about planet scale, we're talking about just very small small

561
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:57.840
scales sizes or what are we talking
about the smallest, the smallest form of

562
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.760
observable and measurable matter, physical matter
that we know of. Now, what

563
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:06.679
I'm going to say here is probably
going to be very controversial, but it

564
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.960
has been confirmed many decades ago behind
the scenes in a private regard, that

565
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:15.559
the smallest forms of matter are cubes
in nature, which is why one can

566
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:20.480
make a strong argument that the force
of anti gravity is proportional to the square

567
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:24.239
root of the electric permativity. And
if it's something that simple, you can

568
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.199
then begin to engineer things like what
you see in mister Piez's patents, which

569
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.920
you could see why it would angor
other groups or factions that don't want this

570
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:37.000
to come out because it shows in
certain ways how simple the engineering approaches.

571
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:42.760
And so the idea is that the
smallest forms of matter at plank or at

572
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.960
the plank scale are cubic or cubes
in nature. Now, if you can

573
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:52.360
somehow manipulate that matter to rise up
those to make those cubes rise up and

574
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.880
begin to revolve around an orbit or
an axis, that you've created those cubes.

575
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.840
Again, what happens is they start
to go from having corners and angles

576
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:07.719
to surpassing the Shwinger limit, as
Piez has talked about. They begin to

577
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:14.400
curve and those cubes begin to self
assemble longitudinally and they form that helix that

578
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.719
or that caducious that we've been talking
about. And again this is very prominent

579
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.239
and reminiscent within the three seventy video. We see of again a caducious like

580
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:28.239
vortex being formed around the craft before
the effect occurs, as well as we

581
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.679
see. You know, people have
talked about having experiences while you know,

582
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.159
with paranormal entities or you know,
on psychedelics, et cetera. And I'm

583
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:39.760
gonna say something here that some people
may either go, oh, my gosh,

584
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.920
this guy doesn't know what he's talking
about, or they'll go, my

585
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.719
gosh, this makes sense. Hopefully
they'll go with the latter. But a

586
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:51.800
lot of people claim to have experiences, whether it's paranormal or what have you,

587
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.920
and they see beings or what they
think are you know, deceased relatives

588
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:00.920
or something like this with the corner
of their eye. Photons in this reality

589
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.800
are the only particles humans can see
the full spectrum of. Now, what

590
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.800
happens is, as we've been talking
about, when you curve space time,

591
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.599
you begin to get these effects.
We notice as well that if our eyes

592
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.320
are like miniature movie projectors. The
corner of our eyes may in fact be

593
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.800
able to reveal more than looking straight
at something. We know there's some feasibility

594
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.000
here because when you go into a
dark room it's actually and you turn the

595
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.800
lights off very quickly, the corner
of your eyes begin to adapt to what

596
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:32.159
you can see much more rapidly than
the center. And so this goes back

597
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:37.320
to the notion of again optics bending
gravity therefore bends light, and so on

598
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.679
and so forth. So which explains
as well why people, for example,

599
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.159
say, oh, my gosh,
I saw a craft in the sky very

600
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:45.960
clearly, but then when I filmed
it with my phone it looked like a

601
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:52.400
blurry sort of pixelation going on.
It's possible we have concave like properties within

602
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:57.239
the lenses of our eyes that our
cameras do not, which is why we

603
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.360
see things more clearly, and then
the cameras themselves continue to pixelate in a

604
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.559
frame dragging type effect. Yeah,
so it's not even just a matter of

605
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.480
what the resolution is, just a
matter of like there we have different capabilities

606
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:12.280
that what we're seeing with we would
need correct I would say, and I'll

607
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.840
be very open and blunt about this, I would say that in order to

608
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.559
for example, detect or pick up
some I'm oversimplifying. So but if this

609
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.719
does end up working, someone please
let me know. But if you took

610
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:28.239
two concave lenses and you overlap them, that interference zone in the center there

611
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:30.159
is where you should be able to
get more of a clear view of the

612
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.280
craft if you and we know,
for example, that concave lenses are what

613
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:40.119
is are inside of the James Web
telescope. Which is interesting because again,

614
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:45.280
the only other telescope that had a
concave lens to my knowledge in the past

615
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:51.639
many decades was the mister James Santilly. The Santilly telescope. That was called

616
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.440
nonsense and he was claiming to see
craft and certain being energetic beings in the

617
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.079
sky with his concave lens telescope.
So that general work is nonsense. But

618
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.880
for some reason, when James Webb
has a concave lens, it's fine.

619
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:09.039
Yeah, So those are show there's
gatekeepers everywhere, especially in academics and experts

620
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:13.280
community. Right, And I'm not
taking a job And just be clear,

621
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:15.360
I'm not taking a job at AVI
Low or anybody. I'm just saying it's

622
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.679
pretty ironic when you look at the
the same way that there are many scientists

623
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.039
right now, so many of which
I know personally that are saying certain things

624
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:28.360
are not possible publicly and then privately
working on the things that you would think

625
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.159
are magic. Yeah, that doesn't
surprise me at all. Yeah, going

626
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:34.920
back to the double helix again,
you know, it starts to make me

627
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:38.280
think about DNA right where. It
does feel like we see these patterns everywhere.

628
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:42.800
You see it in biology, you
are seeing in physics, engineering,

629
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.079
Like That's what to me gives it
even more credit is that there does seem

630
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:53.480
to be this underlying factor of curvature
and everything about our reality one hundred percent.

631
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:57.880
If you search up, for example, even on Google a quantum curve

632
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.320
space time, you'll now begin to
find articles that say, mister, you

633
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:06.639
know I'm paraphrasing, but mysterious phenomena
shown when spacetime is see it's a slow

634
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:10.599
drip feed of what has already been
known and worked on and engineered and dare

635
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:15.679
I say, perfected to varying degrees
for many decades now. So here's another

636
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:19.559
topic which if you feel uncomfortable talking
about, feel free to stop me.

637
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:23.000
But superconductivity brought up superconductivity. I
think that the chat would like to know,

638
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.519
and I would like to know as
well, is you know, we've

639
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:30.079
seen LK ninety nine in the past
few months as well. And when I

640
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.599
saw ELK, and I my personal
opinion was that I think that this is

641
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:37.920
legitimate because I've seen the videos of
flex pinion and we're talking about room temperature

642
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:43.519
superconductivity now, not just almost sup
room temper Sure do you think that room

643
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:49.880
temperature superconductivity, you know, can
or must be created for meta materials or

644
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.840
can it also be induced via electromagnetics, electrograph etics, however you want to

645
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:58.119
think of it. So I'm going
to say something that's largely unpopular amongst the

646
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.719
people that I know and or work
with, et cetera, which is that,

647
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.199
and we discussed this yesterday, which
is that it is of my humble

648
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:13.239
opinion that the focus on meta materials
and the analysis of them and their isotopic

649
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.519
ratios and all of that is fine. There's nothing wrong with that, but

650
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:21.079
to induce the effects we are seeing, whether it's the Piez effect or tapping

651
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.800
the zero point as put Off has
said in the past, or doctor Eric

652
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:29.239
Davis or your three seventy videos.
You do not need meta materials whatsoever.

653
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.440
Now, putting that aside for a
moment, you may say, okay,

654
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:37.079
what induces these effects? Well,
various forms of plasmas and certain gases,

655
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:44.400
various forms of light, various forms
of superconductors. In addition to and this

656
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:49.880
is where it gets quite controversial,
the induction of room temperature superconductivity using normal

657
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.519
metals. And so it is of
my humble view that the push for the

658
00:47:53.599 --> 00:48:01.119
analysis of meta materials and such is
to not necessarily detract, but distract from

659
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:06.559
the fact that this can be done
without meta materials. Now, with that

660
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.440
said, I don't have something against
meta materials, and we think, for

661
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.440
example, okay, what is that. Well, if we, for example,

662
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:17.599
engineer the we manipulate the isotopic ratio
of say magnesium bismuth, and then

663
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.639
we put a thin film, you
know, super conducting layer over it with

664
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:27.360
maybe fiber optics. In theory,
that's a metamaterial because it's a material that

665
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.480
we have now manipulated and it's in
a meta state, if you will.

666
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.119
So I'm not against that, but
it's also not needed. That is not

667
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.559
needed to be done. This is
something I said for quite some time,

668
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.119
and I've gotten some flak behind the
scenes for it, but I think that

669
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.880
people have the right to know,
particularly when you look at the work of

670
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.440
before World War two, and especially
before World War One, this notion of

671
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.800
airships and compressed air, these pneumatic
forms of transportation, that we're clean and

672
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.480
it was just using compressed air.
Forget anti gravity, forget generating gravity waves,

673
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.920
just using compress air. So you
know that that brings me into a

674
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.639
whole rant as well as you know, for example, the common home heat

675
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.760
pump in everyone's homes, for example, technically have the ability to allow you

676
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:17.119
to induce what's called cop coficion of
performance over one, meaning you can use

677
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.840
the you know, the empty space
or the vacuum and the ions from it

678
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:30.159
to compress air. But there's been
a diabolical design globally where when it cools

679
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:34.079
off outside your back on resistance heating, so you're stuck in a closed loop

680
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:39.559
system instead of an open loop one. So essentially one of the few reasons

681
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:45.519
that we're still building cop cofiicient of
performance less than one is because closed current

682
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.960
loop circuits restores Lorentz symmetry and doesn't
let you use the ether or the vacuum

683
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.800
to extract the type of energy that
we would see to power homes infinitely or

684
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:59.840
to do the effects that we've seen
in the three seventy videos. So that's

685
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.000
the pac man mouth is closed instead
of being open. Yes, exactly,

686
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.920
exactly, Yes, Yeah, that's
pretty cool. So I I was gonna

687
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.679
say, uh, which sorry if
but very quickly from a visual or the

688
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:16.880
pac Man's mouth when it's open,
it looks identical to Maxwell's quaternions on Wikipedia,

689
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:22.079
by the way, So it's just
an interesting visual to correlate because if

690
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:27.239
you do the math, it translates
to that visually. So and just real

691
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.079
quick from my chat, people want
to know what LK ninety nine is.

692
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.719
So LKA in ninety ninety nine was
I was just going to say, you

693
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.119
know, you can feel good.
To correct me. Here is a recipe

694
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.559
that was came out of Korea and
I think also China, but mostly Korea

695
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.760
that essentially said, you can take
copper and lead and if you heat it

696
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.679
under the right uh, using the
right recipe, that you can produce a

697
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:52.119
super conducted room temperature superconductive element or
metal however you want to think of it.

698
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.280
Yeah, is that how you would
describe it as well? Certainly it

699
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.920
is of my knowledge certain things have
have been done privately. I know,

700
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:04.639
for example, there was a paper
published all the way back in two thousand

701
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.719
and one that indicated a combination of
copper and gold, for example, that

702
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:13.320
when melted to a certain temperature,
created room temperature super conductivity, and then

703
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.599
it later got retracted as per usual. Those are the ones you're gonna want

704
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:22.639
to look for for your lovely audience. With that said, do I personally

705
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:27.239
two things I'll say about LK ninety
nine in particular, I haven't looked into

706
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.559
it enough to say for certain my
surface level analysis is that it is purely

707
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:36.920
diamagnetic and not room temperature superconductive.
I could be wrong with that said.

708
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:42.039
Putting LK ninety nine aside, I
know for a fact that room temperature superconductivity

709
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:45.000
does exist and has for quite some
time. One can make an argument that,

710
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:52.119
without jumping all over the place here, these ancient cathedrals that seem to

711
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:57.199
have very peculiar geometric properties and organs
inside of them, with pizo electric bricks

712
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.320
made out of them, may have
in fact been room temper. But you're

713
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.360
superconductive buildings that were used for healing, et cetera, et cetera. But

714
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.239
anyways, the really cool I think
that the idea is that if you have

715
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:13.559
a resonance within the vacuum that has
an ideal state of your cells in a

716
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:15.840
healthy manner, sort of like going
back to our stacked books. Example,

717
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:20.559
if you're on book number ten and
you're you know, your your cells are

718
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.760
cancerous. You can then what this
this resonance does just by being inside of

719
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:29.800
these cathedrals ideally, is it takes
essentially uh your body when it was at

720
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.119
say book three in a healthy state, and brings it up to book ten

721
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:37.519
and you are now essentially very healthy. We've seen this been also be promoted

722
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:43.079
pre World War One for those that
have the really old magazines and that kind

723
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.320
of stuff, you know, with
using cathodes and you know, ray tubes

724
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.800
and all this kind of stuff putting
it all over the body. But of

725
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.360
course, you know, interestingly enough, we didn't hear about any of that

726
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.280
after the war. So yeah,
yeah, well I have it just from

727
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.239
my audience too. I want to
go back to something you were saying about

728
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.719
some other mad materials bismuth, zinc
and magnesium, seems to be a common

729
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:07.480
combination that I hear a lot about
in uithology, So I just think that

730
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:09.559
there might be something there. I'm
just curious as to if you have any

731
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.440
just quick thoughts on that. Yeah, I'll be super open in one sense.

732
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.079
I know, for example, that
certain people have done certain things to

733
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:20.159
bismuth, and when bismuth was put
into a concave like shape, it began

734
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.360
to exhibit properties that otherwise would not
have. These are people, just like

735
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:28.280
you know, melt, melting it
and applying a couple of other things to

736
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.719
it electrically in their homes. So
I don't want to give away too much,

737
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:34.239
but I do know, for example, these were people taking bismuth from

738
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.440
shotgun shells. So what I'm trying
to say is there are components to a

739
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.800
lot of these elements and materials that
we that are right in our faces,

740
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.079
that we are sadly not familiar with. And I'm familiar, for example,

741
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:49.320
with a certain group that had to
that found some very interesting things using just

742
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:54.039
resonant frequencies, and they themselves had
to were very frustrated because they could they

743
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:59.679
could not publish these results they were
able to induce. Dare I say,

744
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:05.400
a form of alchemy using the polarizable
vacuum approach, which is again the curving

745
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:09.199
of space time, and then using
the positive and negative electric charges to dare

746
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:15.239
I say birth something out of the
phase conjugate curves that were induced in the

747
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:20.519
laboratory on these materials. Yeah,
and I'll repeat for people that are out

748
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:23.159
there that are thinking that, you
know, this is just blowing their minds

749
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:25.519
or what have you. This is
why this is hard truths, guys.

750
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.760
This is why we're in here.
These are the truths that people are gonna

751
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:31.119
have a hard time accepting, and
you need an open mind to get to

752
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:34.880
them. Dave, this is awesome. Do you want to take a look

753
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:37.239
at videos with me real quick and
we can just I would love to hear

754
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:38.840
your opinion on the science, what
you think is happening. And you already

755
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.840
kind of referenced them multiple times,
So I'm going to go ahead and share

756
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:47.159
my screen here so that we can
get this officially in the recording. Wait

757
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:51.559
can you see it now? Dave? Yes, Okay, so here we

758
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.320
go. We got that technical difficulties
resolved, so these orbs come flying in

759
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:58.679
right away. And the first thing
that I noticed that I'm curious about your

760
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.800
thoughts is that it seems like it
flies past the plane and then it kind

761
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:05.639
of looks like it's trying to look
for it here. I don't know.

762
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:09.440
This isn't necessarily like super in depth
in the superconductive or science perspective, but

763
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:13.320
to me, it looks like it's
like tracking or looking for the plane.

764
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:15.960
What are your just general opinions on
that when you see this come flying in

765
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:21.360
like this, And I'd say this
in a speculative manner, assuming these orbs

766
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:27.559
are in a sort of detection mode, if you will, what I would

767
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:32.480
speculate that what is occurring here is
there is a sort of that orb is

768
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:37.800
looking for a resonant to lock in
with respects to the other orbs relative to

769
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:45.639
the mass that it's looking to transfer
or reduce the weight of or again perturb

770
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:51.079
the local space time metric around it. That's normally what I would this is

771
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:53.800
again without the actual data itself,
that's what I would speculate, and of

772
00:55:53.880 --> 00:56:00.840
course with regards to the vortex like
behavior that is all but very familiar to

773
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:06.559
a lot of my experimental work to
like to a t. So I can

774
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:10.719
say that for those that again think
that it's fake or something like this.

775
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:15.320
We also have to keep in mind
that the video editing software that it gets

776
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:21.800
put through again by definition of not
even having the code embedded in and of

777
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:28.159
understanding a higher symmetry effect, will
seemingly try its best to sort of render

778
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:32.519
the effects that it could in a
flat space time assumption or presumption. And

779
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.639
this is not to say that VFX
software is the only thing that assumes the

780
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:40.079
flat space time. We can say
arguably that all of our cameras assume the

781
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:45.599
flat space time, which create which
is what gives rise to the pixelation and

782
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:50.519
therefore the inability to see past a
particular point of that curvature, which would

783
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:54.599
then be another dimension directly above it. And so these effects that we're seeing

784
00:56:54.639 --> 00:57:02.119
and that I see here are vastly, vast similar to what I'm familiar with.

785
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:07.280
And so I think what we're seeing
as well is that we're seeing a

786
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:14.800
depot dare I say, a focusing
of energy that uses literally the entire space

787
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:17.719
time, metric or vacuum or ether
around it to induce the effect that we

788
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:22.599
see. And this this triangle,
this also speaks to you, by the

789
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:27.400
way the breaking of the breaking of
local symmetry. We see, for example,

790
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:30.639
that Lee and Yang won the Nobel
Prize for this back in nineteen fifty

791
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:34.079
seven. This is not anything that
is out of the ordinary, if you

792
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:39.320
will, We see that et Whittaker
in nineteen oh three nineteen oh four showed

793
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:45.880
that using partial derivatives you can infact
and the z axis in a longitudinal sense,

794
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:51.559
you can induce these effects and stabilize
disequilibrium. So the idea would essentially

795
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.119
be that you'd have very similar to
like a tree trunk for those that are

796
00:57:54.599 --> 00:58:00.599
that are not so scientifically minded,
you'd have the trunk that controls the branches

797
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.920
of the tree, as we know
or as the stands as sort of the

798
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:08.159
supporting point. But what we're now
being told publicly is that there's no trunk.

799
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.639
There's just the branches. So we
can liken the branches to the X

800
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.199
and Y axes, respectively, and
then we can liken the trunk of the

801
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:20.880
tree to the Z axis or the
z axis that is not seen unless one

802
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.000
is actually up close in that effect, which is why I keep saying,

803
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:28.239
at best, when you're away from
it, you're going to see at best

804
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:32.719
the flat intersection of that phenomena.
And or the flat intersection through either your

805
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:38.559
own eyes or the cameras that are
filming such. Yeah, so what is

806
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:45.400
your thoughts then on this pattern that
they're doing here. It's breaking the local

807
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:50.519
symmetry of the space time metric to
induce what Hotchburg and Visser showed out of

808
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:54.079
Los Alamos in the nineteen eighties,
to induce what seems to be here against

809
00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:01.199
speculatively a traversible wormhole. Essentially,
it's using resonance to break the local space

810
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:05.920
time metric around the object, in
this case, the plane that it's looking

811
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:10.840
to transport, and it is essentially
building that resonance up in a vortex like

812
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:17.800
manner to then create at the zero
point a curvature in space time that again

813
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:23.079
will give the effects as we've seen
here, that induce things like again you

814
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:29.320
know, non locality, spooky action
at a distance teleportation, which we know

815
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:34.559
has been done at least fundamentally by
transferring bits or quantum information. Why that

816
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:37.639
hasn't been proposed to be scaled up
publicly and is another interesting thing. But

817
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:44.840
yeah, so you think then that
that's not just a matter of scanning or

818
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.880
mapping the plane here. You think
there's some type of electromagnetic or other type

819
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.320
of force at play here while they're
actually doing the spinning and they're interacting with

820
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:57.440
a probably yes, the orbs are
probably super conductive. What they're essentially doing

821
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:01.000
is they're locking in at the playing
scale with regards to the local space time

822
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:08.320
metric around the plane and then inducing
weather through lasers that would come out of

823
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:16.840
the orbs, or whether through certain
pre programmed let's say electromagnetic and harmonic decibel

824
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:23.320
frequencies make the plane go through or
experience the effect that we see where it

825
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:28.360
suddenly just disappears. But I would
say lead up to that is a resonant

826
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:32.320
type of build up, very similar
to sort of like a Z pinch,

827
01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:37.159
if you will. So they're not
even being pre they're not even being remotely

828
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.679
controlled. Then they would be pre
programmed. Is that what I'm hearing is

829
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:44.960
that it can be as I understand, it can be remote controlled, but

830
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.639
it can also be preprogrammed absolutely to
find a particular if it's pre programmed with

831
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:52.760
a set of you know, to
look for a certain mass that then has

832
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:58.800
that mass dare I say, transport
or make it disappear or remove the weight

833
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:04.559
or the internal mass of that object
from one point to another, I certainly

834
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.920
would say that it can definitely be
done. Okay, well, that one

835
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:09.440
was awesome. Let's take a look
at the second video then, and I

836
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.920
appreciate all your insights on that.
That's really helps me a lot as well.

837
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:16.679
Can you see the second video?
Yes, okay, awesome. I'm

838
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:19.800
going to full screen this. So
this is the second video, guys,

839
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.360
And this is the MQ one C
Gray Eagle, where we can just see

840
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:27.519
the nose of this drone right here, right off the bat. And somebody

841
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:30.239
actually one of the comments of one
of the recent podcasts so that their friend

842
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:32.239
works for General Toomics and that this
is what one of their drones would look

843
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:37.519
like as well. Now in this
one, the leaker is taking this multi

844
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.440
spectral electro ir camera and added this
thermal layer in over the top of it.

845
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:45.039
And again we can see these orbs
just ignoring gravity here. And one

846
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:46.920
point right away I want to point
out, once we get to this orb

847
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:50.519
that we see, I want to
snap it, shot it right when we

848
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.519
see it, is that you mentioned
something about the cameras not being able to

849
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:57.960
pick this up in correctly in three
dimensions and it would look flat to us.

850
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:00.159
You think that may be part of
the reason why that orbs look just

851
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:04.679
kind of circular here, or is
this just naturally you know, actually we're

852
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.360
still seeing them in three dimensions,
or what is your thought that would be

853
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:09.519
that would certainly be a factor.
And you see, do you think we're

854
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:13.639
seeing the non radiant barrier here around
this or do you think that this is

855
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:20.920
a solid object? Then I think
it again, I would speculate that it

856
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:25.119
is a solid object that has created
a alteration of the local space time metric

857
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:31.000
around it using plasmas and Bose Einstein
condensates, so it is completely voiding space

858
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:36.880
and time, therefore not having to
abide by the gravitational rules that you know

859
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:42.519
fighter jets would have to. Yeah, and it's a smart for It's like,

860
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.800
if I can give a quick example, It's like if you were in

861
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:50.360
a swimming pool and you took a
small pocket of a little bit of water,

862
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:53.960
put it inside of a put it
inside of a container of sorts or

863
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:57.280
a balloon, if you will,
and then put it back in the pool.

864
01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.079
That water that is inside of the
balloon is not touching the rest of

865
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:05.280
the water on the outside, and
the balloon therefore allows for that water on

866
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.599
the inside to push and pull the
balloon in ways that it wouldn't be able

867
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:13.760
to if that water in the balloon
was immersed with the rest of the pool.

868
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:15.800
Did you ever, Uh, you're
probably a little young for this.

869
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:21.880
They used to be a toy called
Ballzac and it was a ball and there

870
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:23.239
would be like a water ball in
it, and when you threw it,

871
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:28.039
it would just like move around,
super weird. For some reason, that

872
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.800
description that you just gave me kind
of makes me think of that, I

873
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:34.440
know what you're talking to, what
you're talking about, and that would be

874
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.920
a very nice example about the way
that it kind of just jerks around in

875
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:40.760
that regard. Yeah. Interesting.
The next part of one top is you

876
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:45.719
can already see these lines, these
dark trails. We have another version that

877
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:46.960
shows them a little bit more clearly, which I'm just going to switch over

878
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:52.119
to really quickly because this is the
next thing I really want to ask you

879
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:53.639
about here is when we see these
trails, they're in front of the orbs.

880
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:57.119
I mean, this looks like they're
running on train tracks to me.

881
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.519
You can see these trails are actually
in front of the orbs here. What

882
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:04.599
is your thought theory hypothetical about what
is causing him. When I talked to

883
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:10.199
Stavage or Pious, the impression I
got would be that these are like a

884
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:15.719
pulse that is either breaking down the
space time vacuum and creating their own geodesics

885
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:18.840
that way, or there's creating a
vibrational effect that is allowing this breakdown of

886
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:24.559
the local space time vacuum to create
these train tracks. I'm going to call

887
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.519
them, for lack of a better
term, that is, their own geodesics,

888
01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:30.920
that they are just being pulled along. What is your thought? You

889
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:33.079
remember, I completely agree with sal
If you remember what I said at the

890
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:38.360
beginning of this regarding second harmonic generation, that is what gives rise to this

891
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:41.519
effect right here, Yes, I
would. I would say, I would

892
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:45.119
just add simply, the second harmonic
generation allows for a gradient in the local

893
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:50.760
metric that, when induced with a
dielectric, current, capacitor, et cetera,

894
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:55.639
can start to do some very interesting
effects, and when combined with for

895
01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:02.039
example, lasers in a directional sense, can can emit and absorb the UH

896
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.880
and rather induce the effects that we're
seeing here. So if I could stand

897
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:10.960
on doctor Paiez's shoulders humbly, I
would say, In other words, it's

898
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:15.679
giving rise to the macroscopic quantum effects
that are done via phase conjugation, through

899
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:23.079
second harmonic generation that induces a gradient
within space time that creates these effects here

900
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:29.519
through things like Bose Einstein condensates that
can then again do things that would otherwise

901
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:34.840
be considered impossible with solids but can
be done with plasmas. Yeah, and

902
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.159
maybe this is a little bit redundant
to what we were just speaking, But

903
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.440
how is it you think that it
seems like the center of mass is the

904
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:45.039
plane itself. Do you have any
theories on how they're like staying stuck to

905
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:49.119
this plane in this pattern that they
are because they come at rock three speeds,

906
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:51.960
right, so they're coming in at
a limited speed, but then they

907
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:56.360
kind of match the speed of the
plane perfectly. Here. You essentially what

908
01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:58.800
you want to do is, in
this particular case, if you're looking to

909
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.719
do, whether it what we're seeing
here, you want to make the plane

910
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:06.639
your center axis of symmetry. In
terms of for example, instead we talk

911
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:11.920
about, you know, a relative
rotation, but in this particular case,

912
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.159
what we're looking at here is actually
something called absolute rotation, where we are

913
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:21.079
essentially create allowing the orbs to resonate
and lock in with the internal mass of

914
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:26.119
the plane that comprises the plane.
And so that resonance, combined with the

915
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:30.360
effects that the orbs induce, allow
then for the very focused amount of energy

916
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:34.960
to interact at the plank level with
what we can call the zitribua gung or

917
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:40.360
what in German translates to English,
the the jittering thing, as it's been

918
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.800
called. Because in quantum mechanics,
and I'll come full circle with this,

919
01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:45.599
it's been shown that, for example, if you push a kid on a

920
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:49.199
swing, and even after the kid
gets off the swing and the swing is

921
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:54.639
what looks to us is staying still
at the plank level, it's still oscillating.

922
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:58.239
It doesn't stop. And so if
we can lock in with the oscillation

923
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.840
of the not of a swing,
but of a plane, then we can

924
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:05.599
see and we then create a form
of absolute rotation around the axis of the

925
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:11.440
plane, lock in with the resonance, use a Bose Einstein condensate to induce

926
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:15.159
its own geodesics in front of itself. You can then have the exact effects

927
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:21.480
that we're seeing through the curving of
space time and the second harmonic generation that's

928
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:26.159
awesome man, thank you for that
explanation. Greatly appreciate that. No problem.

929
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:28.559
I think we'll get to our main
event here, you know, so

930
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:30.280
if we let this go in here. The first thing I noticed is that

931
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.480
if this was fake, I wouldn't
expect to see frames like this where the

932
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:38.400
plane is out of view. This
is because they've zoomed in and they're manually

933
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:42.679
trying to track this right. I
was listening to Matt Gates on the UAP

934
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:45.639
hearing and one thing he mentioned was
that there was an incident that he had

935
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:50.639
seen where the operator had to use
manual tracking for some UAPs that were out

936
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:54.199
there. I just thought, real
quick, do you have any comments on

937
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:56.440
that or you think that there might
be a situation where, due to what

938
01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:00.119
we're seeing here, they can't be
tracked automatically due to them being you know,

939
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:03.280
separate themselves from space time. Yes, you can. Basically there are

940
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:08.800
there have been. This isn't actually
nothing new. This is case. This

941
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:12.000
has been around long in the defense
field, long before I was even around.

942
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:18.359
You can make fighter jets and things
like this either see multiple objects that

943
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:23.920
are not even there, see things
that are that would otherwise be in other

944
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:29.680
different places. And essentially manipulate the
radar to the point where you would need

945
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:35.600
a human behind it to look specifically
or know what to look for. These

946
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:41.880
things can because they avoid the local
space time metric, they become completely undetectable

947
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.239
in any way, shape or form. The only way to detect them is

948
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:48.319
to then use the same technology that
it is emitting, but this time you

949
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.720
use it as a detector instead of
an emitter. And this goes back to

950
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.960
what we discussed about things with concave
lenses and so on and so forth.

951
01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:00.720
And I think because some of the
people in the chain want to know as

952
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.479
well, and I think I know
the answer already, but why do you

953
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:08.600
think that there's three of them?
I think the assumption is that's the minimum

954
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:14.920
required to build a geometric shape in
two dimensional space time. That's the minimum

955
01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:19.399
amount required to break the local symmetry
of any metric. So we need to

956
01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:24.560
It's as simple as thinking back to
the X and y axis on the Cartesian

957
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:27.960
plane. But then we need a
third axis, the Z axis, which

958
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.560
is some of the papers that I've
sort of tried to hint to your lovely

959
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:35.399
audience in the past hour and a
half about in terms of there's an entire

960
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:39.199
company. When I gave the example
about covering the bottom half of the water

961
01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:42.840
bottle or the trunk of the tree
not being acknowledged, these are all practical

962
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:46.680
examples of what I'm trying to describe
scientifically relative to what we're seeing here.

963
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.399
The if with two orbs this would
not have worked. You need three.

964
01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:56.960
You need a minimum of three,
and then three corresponds to essentially the broken

965
01:09:57.039 --> 01:10:01.760
symmetry of a particular particle or an
a or space time metric, if you

966
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:09.319
will. So three is very very
crucial. Interesting, Okay, well,

967
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:12.279
I think let's jump to our main
events about to happen. And that's what

968
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.319
tells me. I think that based
on those answers that to me, what

969
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:17.800
we're looking at here is in operation. This is already something I've speculated.

970
01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:21.520
But if these are things that can't
be manually tracked, are automatically tracked and

971
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:25.640
have to be manually tracked, and
we're zooming in on them here as we

972
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:29.880
see in a second, and then
we're zooming out right before this event happens,

973
01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:33.159
and we know that this is some
type of pattern that has purpose that

974
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:35.720
to me, this says that whoever
was filming this new something was about to

975
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:40.520
occur, they're trying to get as
much information about it. And this goes

976
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:43.359
to one of my questions before we
start talking about the ZAPP, which is,

977
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:46.960
do you think that the military films
and these elector are cameras to collect

978
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:51.439
data on exactly these types of anomalous
events, Because I can't understand otherwise why

979
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:55.920
we wouldn't be using optical cameras for
this type of things. The multi spectral

980
01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:58.840
cameras seem like they're intentionally designed for
this, So I'm just curious with your

981
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:01.159
opinion on that. I think yes
to a certain degree. I think this

982
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:04.279
is where it gets a little bit
not complicated, but complex in the sense

983
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:10.479
that whether it's certain departments of the
military or of the contracting field, or

984
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:14.199
a mix of both. In a
hybrid sense, I do believe there are

985
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.800
much more advanced forms of detectors that
can see these things more clearly in every

986
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:23.119
way, But I do believe that
the viewing of such too. Relative to

987
01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:28.760
those sailors or soldiers that do not
have access to such technology and equipment,

988
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:32.119
this would be probably the next best
thing. Yeah, that's awesome, So

989
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:35.319
okay, I appreciate that. Now
this is just some close ups. And

990
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:38.800
this is actually part of the original
writ aside and non video, is that

991
01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:41.880
they actually do these close up slow
mos of the orbs that you can see

992
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:45.279
here, and you can kind of
see them distort a little bit, and

993
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.279
then we get to the slow mo
of what I refer to as the ZAPP

994
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:51.000
But I think the more accurate term
is the macroscopic phase conjugation that's happening.

995
01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:55.840
So I would like to hear your
opinion, because you just mentioned that you

996
01:11:55.880 --> 01:12:00.279
think these orbs are having purpose here, they're interacting with one another, they're

997
01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:03.199
breaking down the local face time or
space time metric. And do you think

998
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:06.560
then that when we're going to see
them converge here? And I think we're

999
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.079
gonna see I don't know if the
monopole is the right term, but they

1000
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:14.840
seem to be focused all their relative
important part, you know, focus towards

1001
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:19.319
the middle of the plate. They're
they're essentially what they're doing is they're creating

1002
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:25.319
a how can I put sorry?
After watching my words here, they're seeing

1003
01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.039
they're inducing a quadrupole moment essentially,
and what I mean by that is a

1004
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:34.560
quadrupole are multiple diepoles laid over each
other. But the reason that you a

1005
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:39.600
quadrupole quad meaning for you'd say why
is there not a fourth orb? Then

1006
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:44.399
if that's the case, that's because
the fourth potential has to be left open

1007
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:48.119
the same way we talk about opening
pac Man's mouth via the a field the

1008
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:54.520
magnetic vector potential to induce in this
particular case, UH, if they're if

1009
01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:59.760
this is a transportation effect, uh, to allow for the fourth point of

1010
01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:02.039
that quadrupole to be in the place
where they wanted to transport the plane.

1011
01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:06.279
If that makes sense when you say
they wanted to transport the plane and you

1012
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:10.000
say that's where they want to induce
the singularity? Or is this also some

1013
01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:15.119
way of determining the direct Sure?
If you're, let me simplify it actually

1014
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:16.760
in a way that I think I
probably could do much better. If you're

1015
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:20.319
looking to teleport an object, let's
just say right, or transport it from

1016
01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:25.720
one point in space to another point
but very far away in distance, what

1017
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:30.279
you would do is you would have
three orbs surround or three of these orbs

1018
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:35.199
with disability surround the object that you
want to say teleport speculatively, and then

1019
01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:39.960
you would have the fourth orb at
the location that you want to bring it

1020
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:45.479
to and this would be your Einstein's
spooky action at a distance. You do

1021
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.760
one thing on one side of the
planet, and it immediately occurs on the

1022
01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:51.479
other side of the planet as well. It's those same type of concepts essentially.

1023
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.119
So that's really interesting because we have
been speculated and part of MH three

1024
01:13:56.159 --> 01:14:00.479
seventy x investigation are there other orbs
on the other side from you, is

1025
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:03.520
that you might need just one other
orbs that is essentially entangled somehow. Well.

1026
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:09.239
It speaks to completing the full squadrupole, which would be the squaring of

1027
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:11.960
a circle if you were to visually
look at it, which goes right back

1028
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:15.239
to the square root of the electric
permeativity of the local vacuum. In addition

1029
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:20.119
to these plank cubes that we talked
about. It's pretty it's not that different.

1030
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:23.680
It's just different ways of looking at
it, but it's not I do

1031
01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:28.600
agree with doctor Paez when he says
that it's a new perspective on something that's

1032
01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:30.479
been right under our noses for a
very long time. Yeah. I like

1033
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:33.239
when you put that too, because
it goes back to that idea that we're

1034
01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:36.520
just building on old science, that
we're taking another look at it, looking

1035
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:40.119
at it differently. But we're not
cheating the system in any way, right,

1036
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.399
We're not no change in how science
operates. We're just building upon it.

1037
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:46.079
Basically, if I can say very
quickly with regards to I would I'm

1038
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:48.279
not a betting man, but if
I had to bet money, there was

1039
01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:54.880
a fourth orb that would be stationed
at the the geographical point in which this

1040
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:58.279
plane would have wanted to in which
certain people would have wanted to bring this

1041
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:01.880
object towards. And example of that
is very simple. The way people may

1042
01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:06.920
say, Okay, how is this
connection made between the fourth orb or the

1043
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:12.279
potential fourth orb and the three that
are around it. Think about an elastic

1044
01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:17.439
band stretching between the plane and where
the fourth orb would be that induces through

1045
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:21.199
that longitudinal component, that Z axis, that trunk of the tree that we

1046
01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:28.479
cannot see in flat space time,
that induces at minimum light speed, the

1047
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.720
ability for matter to appear from at
one point and then appear on another point

1048
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:39.760
simultaneously. So you're essentially creating a
non visible elastic band between the plane and

1049
01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:42.520
where you would want to bring the
plane. And the way you do that

1050
01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:45.680
is you break the symmetry of the
around the object of the local vacuum that

1051
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:49.279
you want to teleport if you will, And then you have the fourth and

1052
01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:55.520
final point of that quadrupole inductance,
which is the second harmonic generation effect.

1053
01:15:55.840 --> 01:16:00.199
You would have the fourth point at
where you'd want to bring it, same

1054
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:02.119
way you have cell towers. Basically, it's the same concept. Yeah,

1055
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:06.159
and does with this direction of travel. Doesn't matter that the plane is focused

1056
01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:09.720
on as certain direction as we go
forward, We're going to go anyway they

1057
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:12.520
wanted to go as long as the
orbs, as long as the orbs induce

1058
01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:17.760
the resonant effect around the plane and
they fit to the plane's direction of propagation

1059
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:21.159
and so on. No, there's
no, it doesn't matter. Awesome,

1060
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:26.760
And so the next question that is
this frame that we're looking at right here,

1061
01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:29.560
we can see the plane blur.
In this frame, we can see

1062
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:31.479
what looks like gravitational lensing to me
on these orbs. Which, yes,

1063
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:33.800
this is the part where I'm like, nobody fake this, guys, like

1064
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:39.520
this is way like it's too natural. Here. The other part that's interesting

1065
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:43.159
is that the planes gets a little
bit smaller compared to the frame rate before

1066
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:46.800
this. So do you think this
is indicative of some acceleration effect that's happening

1067
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:53.359
here, the gravitational effect. I
say it's a combination of infolding as E.

1068
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:57.800
T. Whitaker and David Bohm were
big proponents of boy and mechanics.

1069
01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:02.399
But it's also also an indication of
the local metric being warped and perturbed sort

1070
01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:06.920
of like jello, to the point
where it becomes the solid objects don't become

1071
01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:12.399
solid. So this is like the
beginning of the phase conjugation occurring, and

1072
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:14.439
we're just kind of seeing it.
And this is what you think essential?

1073
01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:17.159
If essential, I would I would
bet yeah, yeah, Ok. And

1074
01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:20.039
then from this effect that we see
here, what is your thoughts? So

1075
01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:25.840
in the satellite stereotopic video we see
some illumination happen from this event, but

1076
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:30.399
we can see from this video here
that's an endothermic cold event. Why do

1077
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:34.760
you think that there is illumination happening? You know this light that illuminates the

1078
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:39.640
clouds. What is your theories behind
that? That is very similar to that

1079
01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:45.600
of this So I have to it's
a lot more straightforward in my opinion than

1080
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:55.159
many may think. This speaks very
much to very quick laser pulses, particularly

1081
01:17:55.279 --> 01:18:00.600
within the ultra violet spectrum. I
need to forgive me, I need to

1082
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:06.239
be a little bit careful in that
regardless. Quite, let's just say that

1083
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:10.079
certain not just in this case,
but in other cases, there have been

1084
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:12.760
people that have claimed to and forgive
me, I don't mean in this case,

1085
01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:15.279
but certain people have claimed to see
certain colors when craft take off in

1086
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:19.279
a light or in a photonic sense, that correspond directly to what we know

1087
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:24.560
in the laboratory to be an ultraviolet
pulse. And so when we see this

1088
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:30.000
effect, I think what we're seeing
essentially is the residue of how can I

1089
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:35.840
put it, sort of like if
this speculative wormhole had an hourglass like shape

1090
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:39.439
to it, but we cannot see
it in its full three D form.

1091
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:43.199
Going back to our main topic of
because everything's assumed to be a flat space

1092
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:46.720
time with our detectors and so on, what we would have essentially is that

1093
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:51.760
sort of light. That illumination is
sort of the indicative of the sort of

1094
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:59.840
tapering off resonance that is closing up
that temporary we could say pocket and space

1095
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.800
time or opening in space time that
was made the same way that the same

1096
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:09.560
way that you pulse a laser basically. Okay, well, I appreciate that.

1097
01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:12.680
That's really amazing. So I think
we've learned a lot here. Now,

1098
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:15.159
one last thing I have on these
videos, and then I just want

1099
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.720
to talk to you briefly about just
some of the implications of all this technology.

1100
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:21.439
So let's just say, hypothetically,
there's a lithium ion battery fire on

1101
01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:27.119
this plane. Let's just assume that
do you think that this event could absorb

1102
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.680
the energy out of those batteries?
Do you think it could? I mean,

1103
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.159
it's cold as well. I know
I know that I know for a

1104
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:38.800
fact that it can transfer the mass
of that of that those batteries either into

1105
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:43.399
the orbs, it can transfer the
mass, let it dissipate into the into

1106
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:47.399
the ether or the vacuum. And
then I know for a fact that it's

1107
01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:54.239
possible and very feasible to do using
lasers and and pulse pulse laser effects and

1108
01:19:54.359 --> 01:20:00.960
electro optical birefringent effects. And if
you had a and types of phase conging

1109
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:05.039
of crystals that were and put inside
of lasers, and those lasers were put

1110
01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:10.039
inside of the orbs, you can
definitely have these effects. Yeah, awesome,

1111
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:12.720
that's that's huge. Thank you very
much for that. I think that

1112
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:16.520
helps us to understand what no problem
the idea would essentially be. We have

1113
01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:19.279
to keep in mind there's a difference
between mass and weight of an object.

1114
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:23.479
And if we think of we ultimately
publicly we don't know what mass is.

1115
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:28.199
If we think of mass being simply
the internal resonance of an object, we

1116
01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:31.800
think about the ability to then if
we can transfer that resonance from the plane

1117
01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:36.000
to then where the outer shell of
the plane is still intact, but its

1118
01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:41.199
internal mass has now been the same
way that if we take that water in

1119
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:45.359
a balloon example, imagine you pop
the balloon and then the water just naturally

1120
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:47.680
goes into the rest of the swimming
pool and it just kind of embeds itself

1121
01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:50.720
into the rest of you know,
life or nature, if you will.

1122
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:56.119
The same thing works with mass in
that sense. So that's why when a

1123
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:59.159
lot of people say, for example, you know, things like cold fusion

1124
01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:02.800
are not possible because mass behaves in
a certain way, I would say very

1125
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:11.439
strongly that mass behaves basically. You
can you can make any object warp like

1126
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:17.680
jello under the right conditions of face
conjugation, manipulating that mass the internal mass

1127
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:20.640
of an object, which is why, for example, I think we've seen

1128
01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:27.039
ancient structures that have been so precisely
cut our current modern you know, laser

1129
01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:30.199
beam cutters couldn't even do it.
And that's because, in my opinion,

1130
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:34.680
there is such precision with regards to
the resonance of the toroidal nature of life,

1131
01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:40.079
if you will, that lock in
resonance of that making that phase conjugation

1132
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:45.279
allows for the cutting of the stones, the transportation of large objects to be

1133
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:49.000
literally as light as a penny in
terms of its internal mass, if you

1134
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:54.359
can dissipate the mass from it and
therefore again open pac Man's mouth to let

1135
01:21:54.439 --> 01:22:00.079
the mass leave an object, and
then again you can essentially make it as

1136
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:03.720
light as possible while still having the
outer frame of said object very intact.

1137
01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:08.359
That kind of blows my mind because
I've been sitting here wondering as I watched

1138
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:15.039
stuff like Graham Hancock's arch Anthropology archaeology, where he's looking at these structures and

1139
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:21.479
formations that were built tens twenty thousand
years ago, and they just seem impossible,

1140
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:25.760
especially if we're dealing with hunter gatherers
that were not organized. You know,

1141
01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:30.239
I just feel like maybe they weren't
necessarily more advanced from an iPhone perspective,

1142
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:36.399
but they at least had some concept
of these advanced geometry, advanced science,

1143
01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:40.840
physics, and engineering that we are
still to us, you know.

1144
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:43.520
For them, you know, maybe
they were more advanced in some ways and

1145
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:45.039
we are more advanced in other ways. You know. So that's just kind

1146
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:47.880
of what my current theory is.
I thought that I'm this is why I

1147
01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:54.119
really appreciate the conversations that you have
with people like Salpayez, because the one

1148
01:22:54.159 --> 01:22:58.479
thing I've said many times over is
that if any form of our ancestors had

1149
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:03.119
any interaction action with this type of
science, as we said earlier about science

1150
01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:06.720
versus tech, they were not running
you know, stokes, integral theorems and

1151
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:10.319
vessel functions and all this kind of
stuff. For them was very simple.

1152
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:13.960
They maybe didn't even call it this, but we understand electricity, magnetism,

1153
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:16.720
lights sound simple, what can we
do with it? Clearly, this is

1154
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:23.319
a very simple approach that unifies everything
once one begins to see the perspectives that

1155
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:28.000
can be taken in a sense of
not needing these overly, and this is

1156
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:32.920
no jab in anybody, to be
clear, but not needing overly complex mathematics

1157
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:38.960
and things like this. It might
be so eloquently simple that it's been put

1158
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:43.239
right in front of our face.
Whenever someone may have discovered the effects that

1159
01:23:43.479 --> 01:23:46.840
lead to these things, if scaled
up, maybe they've decided to just call

1160
01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:50.960
it, you know, things like
inverse Faraday effect or you know, very

1161
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:55.359
basic the London moment for example,
and then just kind of leave it there,

1162
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:58.920
right, No, don't extrapolate on
it. But I think that I

1163
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:02.439
know rather that these affects are very
feasible, and this is when the cognitive

1164
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:08.520
dissonance, mixed with the lack of
ability to detect the appropriate data that would

1165
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:12.920
give rise to understanding this science and
physics comes into play. And that's when

1166
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:16.760
the unfortunately the system has done a
very good job at that. So yeah,

1167
01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:20.279
So I think that just again to
repeat what we've said multiple times,

1168
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:24.239
is that you don't have to believe
what either Dave or I are saying.

1169
01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:27.640
You can verify this information yourselves as
long as you have an open mind.

1170
01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:30.079
The answers are out there. The
stuff that we've been reviewing today is not

1171
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:33.960
science fiction, it's science fact.
People should look into this. If you're

1172
01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:38.399
somebody who's an inquisitive mind out there, you want to dig into it.

1173
01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:41.880
Realize you don't need to have any
pedigree. Pedigree doesn't matter. What matters.

1174
01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.439
You put the work in, you
figure it out, you dig into

1175
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:47.239
the science. The papers are out
there, and you can kind of come

1176
01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:50.640
to the same conclusions that we've been
coming to here today. Now I want

1177
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:53.720
to talk a little bit about I
think we've talked about a lot of these

1178
01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:56.760
concepts, but if we bring it
all back together in terms of what does

1179
01:24:56.800 --> 01:25:00.840
this mean for this technology, what
can be accomplished. We already talked about

1180
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:03.439
teleportation, although I think that's a
crude approximation of what we're really talking about

1181
01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:06.640
here. But when we mean teleportation, or I mean moving an object at

1182
01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:11.000
the speed of light, potentially faster
than the speed of light, similar to

1183
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:15.520
quantum teleportation according to the double slit
experiment, I think we didn't dig into

1184
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:19.439
it too much. But annihilation as
well, just completely wiping something out.

1185
01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:24.600
With Bob Greenier, he and I
talked a lot about the perfect defense mechanism

1186
01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:28.960
where we could annihilate a nuke,
annihilate any type of missile that would be

1187
01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:31.920
coming at us. Would you agree
with that very much, so essentially using

1188
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:36.000
the same effects or concepts we've discussed
for the past ninety minutes, and essentially

1189
01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:41.640
it not have it, say,
for example, have the mass transfer and

1190
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.359
reorganize elsewhere, which would be a
form of teleportation, but rather have the

1191
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:48.520
mass just completely dissipate, whether it's
the mass of unfortunately a person or the

1192
01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:53.159
mass of a metal object. Size
is not of an issue. So yes,

1193
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:56.399
I strongly agree with mister Greenier.
Yeah, and then some of the

1194
01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:58.720
other aspects we talked about. We
definitely talked about free energy. In my

1195
01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:00.760
opinion, we're talking about pac Man
and open his mouth up, pulling energy

1196
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:04.760
from the vacuum state. I think
that's something I already questioned before. But

1197
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:09.359
really, what you're I think that
your takeaway conclusion is that if you open

1198
01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:12.119
your system up, instead of making
a closed system, I'm making an open

1199
01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:15.000
system. Now you can open yourselves
up to this idea of sucking energy from

1200
01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:19.359
the vacuum state and you know,
having there be a release valve, so

1201
01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:23.039
to speak, in terms of my
layman's terms. Any other thoughts on that,

1202
01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:26.600
sure, One example I can give, and this is I want to

1203
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:30.199
be clear, this is a crude
overly abstract example. So, and I'm

1204
01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:33.199
not a I'm not special I don't
specialize in the uh insert in the in

1205
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:36.000
the medical area of this type of
work. But one thing I can give

1206
01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:39.960
an example of is we talk about
you know, people talk about things like

1207
01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:45.159
over unity or open systems or which
would therefore open pac Man's mouth and extract

1208
01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:47.760
this energy or give and take that, you know, receive and transmit this

1209
01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:51.920
energy in and out of your object
or your setup relative to the local space,

1210
01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:56.520
time or vacuum. We have to
think about the possibility that these craft

1211
01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:59.840
or these orbs may in fact be
nuts and bolts versions of what we already

1212
01:26:59.880 --> 01:27:02.159
ow are and what we already do. What I mean by that is think

1213
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:06.600
about and putting aside the the angles
of remote viewing and whatnot. Think about

1214
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:10.199
for a moment, when you wake
up in the morning and you have breakfast,

1215
01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:13.199
for example, and you have such
a busy day at work that you

1216
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:16.319
don't end up eating lunch or dinner, but still you're still alive. You

1217
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:21.840
can still survive. You arguably have
exerted far more calories than you've consumed.

1218
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:26.640
By definition, one can make an
argument that's over unity. You are a

1219
01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:30.640
perpetual motion machine, So why it
cannot be done when applied to various other

1220
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:34.840
you could say, solids, elements, plasmas, et cetera. Again,

1221
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:42.840
has largely been for I would say
political, controversial, bureaucratic bs, particularly

1222
01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:45.560
with how long it's gone on for. But I think that in addition to

1223
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:50.159
that, this gives rise to things
like light speed or a fast than light

1224
01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:57.319
speed communication. This definitely gives rise
to things like medical healing, particularly things

1225
01:27:57.399 --> 01:28:01.399
like linguistic wave genetics. Doctor Peter
Gary, who unfortunately mysteriously passed away a

1226
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:06.359
couple of years ago and mysteriously had
his Nobel Prize retracted for essentially using the

1227
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:11.960
polarizable vacuum approach, which is what
we've been discussing for the past ninety minutes,

1228
01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:15.000
to essentially do the stacked book example
of healing people, whether it's a

1229
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:20.760
PTSD, mental health or actual cancer. He has a website the linguistic wave

1230
01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:25.680
genetics should be pretty easy to find. But all having to do with again

1231
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:30.119
the same concepts of applying resonance in
conjunction with this phase conjugation at the plank

1232
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:36.680
level that permits these types of interactions. But you did mention faster than light

1233
01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:39.600
communication, which is one of the
things I wanted to touch on. I

1234
01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:43.920
appreciate that the medical healing aspect of
it as well. I think that as

1235
01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:45.399
well. We're talking about force fields
here, right, We're talking about his

1236
01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:48.720
non ratiant barrier. So one thing
I think about is cloaking, you know,

1237
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:50.880
yes, idea, and that's something
that's been out there. Actually,

1238
01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:55.680
that's probably the least controversial aspect.
That's pretty that's pretty that's pretty simple.

1239
01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:58.880
I think that's actually been on Lockheed's
website. They've subtly admitted to it for

1240
01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:00.439
a while. I think it's low. Don't quote me on that, but

1241
01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:04.479
that's that's that's There are multiple ways
to induce that. You don't necessarily need

1242
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:10.359
to bend gravitational waves to bend light. Although that is one way, there

1243
01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:13.960
are many other ways that it can
be done as well. Yeah, yeah,

1244
01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:15.159
and sorry, I we just got
a big donation. I just want

1245
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:17.840
to thank Dop very much. Wow, thank you very much for that.

1246
01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:20.720
That that's really huge, and everybody
in the chat. I don't know if

1247
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.119
you've been able to see it,
Dave, but people have been going wild

1248
01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:27.000
in the chat. They are really
appreciating this conversation. Right now, I

1249
01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:29.960
haven't Unfortunately, I haven't seen I
will take a look back after this and

1250
01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:34.439
and thank you to everybody. I
honestly, I hope that I can even

1251
01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:40.520
stand on Paeza's shoulders next Sunday when
we do this to to give more credence.

1252
01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:42.439
What we're trying to do here today, at least what I'm trying to

1253
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.239
do is lay the groundwork, and
then next Sunday will perhaps get a little

1254
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:48.239
more science y, if you will, in discussing that lingo and all of

1255
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:51.399
that. But you spoiled it for
everybody. I was gonna tell everybody so

1256
01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:55.479
hard to number four is coming out. You're fine, Dave. I was

1257
01:29:55.520 --> 01:30:00.399
about to draft and hard Crew's number
four next week with Dave Rossi and alvatur

1258
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:03.439
Piaus at the same time. It
is going to be amazing. Guys.

1259
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:06.600
If you liked what we're talking about
today, you're gonna love next week.

1260
01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:12.119
We're gonna have two heavyweights kind of
going at it scientifically, talking about the

1261
01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:15.039
videos, talking about the science like
we were today. Building on everything we've

1262
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:18.800
been talking about, just a couple
of other quick scientific concepts. I want

1263
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:23.960
to talk about fusion power. You
know, if we can have electromagnetic fields

1264
01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:27.680
similar to what we can do with
making something invisible, then I see no

1265
01:30:27.720 --> 01:30:30.960
reason why you can't create fusion power
within some very powerful electromagnetive fields as well.

1266
01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:36.399
Would you concur with that assessment?
One trillion percent? That's the There's

1267
01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:40.439
been an old saying. I think
I'm paraphrasing here, but you know they

1268
01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:42.640
talk about things like cold fusion,
and they always say, you know,

1269
01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:45.279
cold fusion is ten to twenty years
away. Yeah, it's been like that

1270
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:47.520
for the last sixty years. So
yes, no, it's it's very feasible,

1271
01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:54.079
very possible. I say very confidently, because if you can read between

1272
01:30:54.119 --> 01:31:00.319
the lines, you and your lovely
audience, it's very feasible with either it's

1273
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:05.000
with low energy nuclear reactions or anything
of the sort. It's why I also

1274
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:10.119
I kind of laughed when I remember
Payez saying on his first appearance on Kirchi

1275
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:15.159
Mungles Show that he initially tried to
file some of his room temperature superconductor patents

1276
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:17.279
is high temp ones because hopefully it
would have went through a little easier,

1277
01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:20.279
but it is, it is feasible. We have to remember as well,

1278
01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:25.680
this is the it's purely political as
to why this stuff won't come out at

1279
01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:29.479
this point purely political? Yeah,
And I think that's my last piece,

1280
01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:32.000
is the politics side of it.
So we've talked about a lot of amazing

1281
01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:34.279
stuff where people go, this has
got to come out, right, and

1282
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:38.119
I am one hundred percent in agreement
with that. But we also have to

1283
01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:41.920
look at the dark side of it
too, which is when you have nuclear

1284
01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.520
power, you have nuclear weapons.
Right, if you were to weaponize this

1285
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:48.279
type of technology, we might be, in my mind, dealing with stuff

1286
01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:51.680
that I would call doomsday weapons,
stuff that you would talk about super villains

1287
01:31:51.720 --> 01:31:57.560
creating in movies. Right. Bob
Greenier mentioned when I said, one of

1288
01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:01.680
salvag Ropius's paper on high frequent your
gravitational way is mentioned destroying an asteroid or

1289
01:32:01.720 --> 01:32:05.000
a planet, a planetoid, which
then I just scaled up and said,

1290
01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:08.680
okay, well what about the strain
a whole planet? And Bob Greener said,

1291
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:11.960
no, I'm talking about the strain
the whole sun. Right. You

1292
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:15.159
can even scale it up even further
too. So what are your thoughts on

1293
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:18.159
that and how we should be responsible
or cautious with this type of technology,

1294
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:23.159
because my opinion is the people that
are hiding this that's the number one reason

1295
01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:26.960
right. Granted, the societal impacts
huge as well, but from a national

1296
01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:31.479
security perspective of giving an individual the
capability to cause massive damage, that's the

1297
01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:34.039
part that I think people will be
afraid of the most. So this is

1298
01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:38.039
something that I'm actually conflicted with.
Now. I want to be very clear

1299
01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:41.520
in saying that, although I do
know that this is a very serious concern,

1300
01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:45.439
it should not be the reason that
at least the knowledge of this should

1301
01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:47.439
not should be hidden, that that
should not be the forefront. Now.

1302
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:51.920
With that said, there is a
very strong concern because of the fact that

1303
01:32:53.680 --> 01:32:56.520
here's and I've been saying this for
those that have known me for quite a

1304
01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:59.600
while now, which is that when
you tap one aspect of this of this

1305
01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:03.079
funda mental energy or super force as
mister Piez calls it, you tap the

1306
01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:05.960
rest of it. What do I
mean by that? It doesn't take much

1307
01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:10.199
after you tap, say an anti
gravitational component, to say, my god,

1308
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:13.520
I can apply this to powering my
own home, or I can apply

1309
01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:16.439
this to if I turn this sideways
and with another five six hours of adjustments

1310
01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:19.640
to the device, I can turn
this into something that I can go and

1311
01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:25.279
very Unfortunately, if I'm angry at
my ex boyfriend or girlfriend, go shoot

1312
01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:29.000
at their house and now they've all
the houses will fall like dominoes. It's

1313
01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:32.760
a very serious concern, and it's
a very This is where, in my

1314
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:41.279
opinion, I think the element of
dare I say, morals, spiritual maturity

1315
01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:45.279
must come into play, the notion
of simply not think. For me personally,

1316
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.319
I never think when I go into
a lab or even if I'm consulting

1317
01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:51.760
on a contract, I never think, how can I weaponize this? That's

1318
01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:55.720
not the thing. Now there are
people that certainly do. I'll be very

1319
01:33:55.760 --> 01:34:00.399
honest with you, and that's unfortunately
the concern because yes, not just in

1320
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:02.359
principle and not just in theory,
but as a matter of fact, it's

1321
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:06.880
been shown by whether it's Richard Feinneman
John Wheeler, that there's enough energy inside

1322
01:34:06.920 --> 01:34:12.000
of a coffee cup to evaporate the
world's oceans. There's enough potential energy within

1323
01:34:12.079 --> 01:34:15.760
the local space time metric the size
of your hand to evaporate a planet.

1324
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:19.399
And if that can be done through
compacting enough energy inside of a high frequency

1325
01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:25.760
graviton emission, I completely agree with
mister Greenier. You can destroy a sun

1326
01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:29.840
yeah, that's why I think.
Sorry, I don't claim to have all

1327
01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:32.680
of the answers, but I think
that by divulging some of the conceptual framework

1328
01:34:32.720 --> 01:34:38.520
as we have today, we can
then perhaps discuss some of the more practical

1329
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:43.359
elements. And I say that carefully
because imagine, for example, with Piez,

1330
01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:45.399
you know, God bless him with
his approaches and his patents in a

1331
01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:50.560
fusion like sense. Imagine you can
do this with solid state electronics. And

1332
01:34:50.680 --> 01:34:55.399
that's ultimately where I know we talked
about this yesterday. I tend to specialize

1333
01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:59.439
more in the solid state manufacturing of
this, and what I mean is essentially

1334
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:05.720
small chip like devices that can essentially
induce these effects equivalent to Payez's work and

1335
01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:11.000
otherwise. And so that's when it
genuinely becomes scary. It really does.

1336
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:13.800
I'm not going to sit here and
say it doesn't. So I agree.

1337
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.520
That's why I think that from the
political aspect, if we were to reveal

1338
01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:20.600
this, there is a lot of
you know, laws or whatever, we

1339
01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:26.439
have to put it in like kind
of safeguards right to ensure that we are

1340
01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:29.439
going to use it responsibly, and
we might even have to rise to the

1341
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:32.279
level of collective conscious where we are
not going to destroy ourselves, right,

1342
01:35:33.079 --> 01:35:36.079
and so I am conflicted, just
like your conflicted, Dave. But I

1343
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:40.239
think that we are both people that
come at this from the right attitude and

1344
01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:42.960
from a good place. So I
think all the people watching as well.

1345
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.079
I hope that they would as well
and realize that this isn't something we can

1346
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:48.119
take lightly. This is something that
we do have to heavily consider when we

1347
01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:51.960
are bringing this technology to the world
and making it public. And that's why

1348
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:55.760
I want to have these adult conversations
that we're having talking about it, making

1349
01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:59.279
sure everyone understands it. I want
to thank you for your time here today,

1350
01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:01.399
and before I let you plug whatever
you want to plug, sure,

1351
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:04.479
I want to go ahead to make
you an honorary member of MH three seventy

1352
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:09.319
Acts. Dave. I think I
am thank you. I really appreciate all

1353
01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:12.960
of your insights. I think that
you've given us so much here today but

1354
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:15.880
also in our past conversations. I
consider you a friend. Imhe three seventy

1355
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:18.800
Acts will come to your side,
come to your aid anytime you need it.

1356
01:36:19.119 --> 01:36:21.000
All you have to do is let
us know and we will be there

1357
01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.319
for you, Sir. I appreciate
that so much. And if I can

1358
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:28.399
add one more thing for you and
your lovely audience, which is that we

1359
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:31.079
talked about this yesterday on the phone, and I'd love to leave this as

1360
01:36:31.159 --> 01:36:34.479
sort of a thought experiment to leave
your audience with, which is that imagine

1361
01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:40.359
you're inside of for example. And
this can also this subscribes to the stacked

1362
01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:44.520
book concept. Even when people talk
about high your dimensions or how your dare,

1363
01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:46.600
I say, even consciousness. But
imagine you're in New York City in

1364
01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:50.680
an apartment with your with your window
open, and it's freezing. It's December

1365
01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:54.880
or January, and you have one
blanket on you, for example, and

1366
01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:59.600
you can feel the cold because there's
only one blanket on you and you only

1367
01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:01.880
have one layer, which is not
that much. And then your partner comes

1368
01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:04.720
in and says, here are another
three or four blankets to put a top

1369
01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:09.079
you so you stay warm. We're
basically at the point, and this is

1370
01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:11.640
one of the reasons I wanted to
come on your show. Where there is

1371
01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:15.000
an element of the military industrial complex, particularly in North America, that is

1372
01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:19.880
trying to that is attempted, that's
doing its best to try and convince us

1373
01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:23.600
that the other three or four layers
on top of that first layer is not

1374
01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:27.439
even there, and that is ridiculous. The fact that they're trying to get

1375
01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:30.560
people to not think becomes a very
serious problem. And so that I just

1376
01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:34.119
wanted to leave you in your audience
with an example like that. That's basically

1377
01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:38.760
what's happening, and it's something that
I know a lot of people on the

1378
01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:42.840
inside won't stand for, but their
hands are tied with regards to the things

1379
01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:47.800
they can say publicly in fear of
unfortunately losing not just pensions but even members

1380
01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:53.159
of families very sadly. So if
I could very humbly speak on behalf of

1381
01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:56.800
some of them, I can say
that it's just getting way too it's getting

1382
01:37:56.840 --> 01:38:00.640
too much, and people deserve to
at least have an underst standing of how

1383
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.079
this works. And so I want
to thank you so much as well for

1384
01:38:03.159 --> 01:38:05.720
making me a member, man,
I really appreciate that. And uh,

1385
01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:09.720
for those that are interested, because
as you may have heard, for those

1386
01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:12.399
they were here at the beginning of
the show, I did have I did

1387
01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:15.840
start this before I got into the
science side, with a with a podcast,

1388
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:18.920
and so what we do now is
a couple times a week for those

1389
01:38:19.039 --> 01:38:26.199
that support me. I put out
extra content and extra papers that Ashton has

1390
01:38:26.279 --> 01:38:29.840
some of that I don't really put
out publicly, and it's Patreon dot com,

1391
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:33.680
slash generation z, no spaces,
no capitals. You're more than welcome.

1392
01:38:33.680 --> 01:38:39.159
If anyone is interested in terms of
a sort of consulting or contracting UH

1393
01:38:40.119 --> 01:38:44.760
side of things, please feel free
to reach out to me directly. Even

1394
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:48.680
Phase Phase helix dot com is the
website that is used in addition to the

1395
01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:56.159
consulting that I have for AsSalt as
well and two different companies depending on what

1396
01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:59.159
needs to be done, depending on
the contract and what have you. But

1397
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:00.680
I want to thank you again for
those that are interested. I also have

1398
01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:06.439
a substack dave z dot substack dot
com z is zed both in generations that

1399
01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:11.840
and Dave zed. But yeah that's
also at podcast z no space, no

1400
01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:15.520
capitals on Twitter, and yeah,
I want to thank you so much Ashton

1401
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:19.560
brother for having me on and I
really look forward to our conversation UH with

1402
01:39:19.880 --> 01:39:24.079
doctor Payez next week. Yeah,
I'm looking forward to And if you ever

1403
01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:26.680
want me in your podcast, all
you have to do is call. We'll

1404
01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:29.039
definitely be in touch and we'll be
talking. So we're gonna We're gonna set

1405
01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:31.119
that up one hundred percent. Yes, yeah, I've been very quickly.

1406
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:35.039
For those that may check out the
generations at public side, I've been far

1407
01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:42.319
less, far slower in releasing content
because I'm much more into the contracting field

1408
01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:45.199
of things. But I want to
thank you so much for allowing me to

1409
01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:48.319
even promote that, because there are
videos I've made in the past that that

1410
01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:51.680
nowadays because of certain things, I
can't comment on. But at the time

1411
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:57.199
I didn't even realize I was so
accurate about that. Maybe even for those

1412
01:39:57.279 --> 01:40:00.399
not interested in the Patreon can still
see publicly and may give more hints to

1413
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:05.960
support what was even discussed here today
and ultimately support the three seventy kse overall.

1414
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:10.319
That's huge, man. I think
I've been making so many connections with

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this. I am so grateful for
everybody I've come across. I don't know

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if I would have ever met you
without these videos, and it just it

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feels like there's another higher force bringing
everybody together. Greatly appreciate it. This

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was hard Truths number three Ashon Forbes, Dave ROSSI giving you guys the information

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the science that it's hard for people
to accept, but it's the hard truths,

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so thank you everybody, have a
great day. Go ahead and close this