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Weird things happened in the weird Weird
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Welcome to be here before the fall. We welcome to the green room.

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A I, we're back in the
green room. This is where we're at

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now. How how my boys doing
me? Poor thing? Ryan is super

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exhausted from working on the house.
You've been at it for two months and

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it looks great. It looks it
looks amazing. He's doing a great job.

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Yeah, enough is enough. You're
over it. You're so over it.

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I mean I get it, dude, every day, day and day

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out months straight. It's hard ass
work. Like, I'm sure you're beat.

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But listen, you know who would
be doing a great job working in

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the house. Who you're gonna say
that? Oh my god, I was

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thinking John Henry? Who's that?
You don't know John Henry? Hey?

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Whoa for real? What's the aggression
for? Dude? Come on, he's

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a legend. We about to scrap
right now. I have no idea.

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Really concerned y'all. Hit don't know
either. You're gonna fight him? I

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mean, I'm really taking a back. Dude, you didn't learn about like

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talked well, we did go to
different elementary schools. Oh my god,

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are you shaming me for something I
should have learned in elementary school. We

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did go to different elementary school.
Tell me about now that I think telling

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me about it. Remember when you're
like learning about like Pecoast Bill and tall

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tales and fables and stuff. John
Henry was one of them, and he

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was an old guy with the pickaxe
that like they made a bet that the

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machine could mine to the mountain faster, and he beat the machine and then

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he died on the other side of
it. Come on, man, John

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Henry, I think you're getting this
confused with Johnny Applesy. No, that

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guy playing Orchards. Oh are you
sure? Yeah, because I've heard of

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that. Yeah, I've heard that
was at my elementary school. I learned

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about Paul Bunyan in my elementary school. When I text Paul Bunyan, did

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you do you know who Paul Bunyan
is? Because I feel like you would

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idolize Paul Bunyan. I feel like
he would. Paul Bunyan He's just a

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nature man, right well, okay, and and I'm putting my children into

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the education system. Yeah, he's
a nature man, right Hey, what

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does that mean? He just chops
down trees, and I mean, okay,

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okay, we're locking. Yeah,
yeah, do you know anything else

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about him? I mean I think
he's a man's man. I don't really

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remember. He's like, like he's
just hardcore. I mean, anybody who

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chops down a tree. He's also
like one hundred feet tall, way taller.

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Oh yeah, you're talking about you're
talking about the Jolly green Giant.

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You shut up. No, that's
a nature man. Yeah, that's the

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nature man. Yeah, jall green
Giant is the nature Paul in the blue

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Ox. He has a huge blue
ox. Speaking of blue ox, this

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has to do with Hercules. Okay, there's a Hercules story about a blue

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bull and a giant. Yes,
that's that's where Paul Bunyan comes from.

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The giant was the son of Poseidon, and Poseidon created the blue bull.

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Yes, this is literally where the
myth of Paul Bunyan comes from. Really,

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yes, I was closer than you
thought. That's true. It was.

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It came full circle. And who
gives a funk about Henry John or

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whatever. You dude, Come on, I don't give a ship about that.

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Dude. You got you got aggressive. I jumped the problem, dude,

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I love John Henwer That's one of
my favorite fables. But like also,

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someone told me he was a real
dude. But I don't think that's

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true. Well my pretty much my
entire life. I thought the Trojan Horse

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story was real. It wouldn't it
could be. I believe there's nothing about

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that story that that is, you
know, magical or fake, except for

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like Poseidon and Athena being there and
like Zeus like raining down lightning bolts.

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Have you read the Odyssey? That's
what it's from. Wait, no,

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is it from the Iliad? It's
from the Odyssey. I think that's in

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high school. Bro, We're not
paying attention in high school. Yeah,

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yeah, you're right, Okay,
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure in

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that story he also is trapped in
like an endless time loop by a witch

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that turns people into pigs. So
I don't know if that was a real

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story. What are we talking about? The Odyssey or he fights a cyclops,

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he fights a cyclop a giant could
be real though. Actually there they

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have found bones that have like an
eye socket, like right here without I'm

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just thinking we did a Dragon's episode, bro, and now we're sitting about

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bones and got my antenna going.
I feel like I'm always on this end

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of the table of like you are
end of the table. Yeah, I

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love this table. Yeah it's nice. I like my corner the table that

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all everyone listening and watching can see. So we haven't explicitly said it yet.

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Where's my there's my camera? I
always forget now on the new setup,

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Like I said it the first time
I we did. We talked about

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it, and we thought it would
be really fun to do an episode on

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like different mythological figures, so well, less figures and more like we thought

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it would be a cool idea to
kind of give like snap reactions to different

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myths myths throughout different cultures, different
mythologies. Alex didn't understand that that was

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the plan. So this is I'm
gonna explain real quick what happened. I

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the idea just came into my head, like we were trying to come up

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with the next idea things. It's
been so crazy, like trying to plan

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the show while we have all the
stuff going on, Like everybody's so busy

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right now. I had this idea, like, oh cool, we could

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give like snap interpretations of like different
myths, Like we don't really look too

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far into them. We just kind
of like like glance over some myths,

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pick out some cool ones, and
then we'll read them on the show and

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we'll give like our snap real time
interpretations of them. Right, So,

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Alex I text that to the chat
and Alex is like what He's like,

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He's like, it's like, I
don't know any men. Yeah, He's

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like, I literally have no idea
what y'all are talking about. And I

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was like, bro, you know
the myth of of of Hercules, the

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myth of I listed, like between
me and Ryan, we probably listed nine

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or ten different myths. And apparently
what happened was Alex heard Hercules and went,

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I'm doing that one. Bet I
got it. So he literally text

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us, I call Hercules. And
then I get here today and we're getting

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ready to record, and he's like, bro, I listened to an entire

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audiobook about Hercules today. I'm so
prepared. And I was just like,

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oh, the opposite of our idea. I was like, oh, sick,

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okay, cool, but you know
what, it's fine, Yeah,

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it's gonna be great. I'm really
honestly super geeked to hear think about it.

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That's awesome. I Honestly, I
didn't know the snap. I missed

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the Snap reactions part. I thought
we were just doing like myths listen.

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So I was like, I'm gonna
pull my weight, you know, I'm

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gonna So I listened to his whole
audiobook at work at one and a half

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time speed, like so I'm I'm
ready to go, dude, man,

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So I'm pumped for this. Yeah, we were. We were kind of

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thinking about well, granted we did
also talk about this on the phone yesterday

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and you weren't present for the conversation, but we were kind of thinking it'd

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be cool to like discuss the general
overarching themes and in certain myths and talking

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about like how they relate to a
lot of the subjects we talk about on

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this show. So like, if
you noticed, I don't know what you

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picked. I don't know if you
told us which one you I have not

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would you like to hear them or
you want to Wait? I thought we

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were supposed to share them, but
that's fine. No, I'm saying like,

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like, do you want to know
which myths I got? Sure?

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Yeah, okay, they're all Greek
spoilers. Well, you know, no

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big surprise, you know, I
didn't see that coming. Ye, yeah,

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yeah, who would have thought?
They're all seven? But I picked

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a Greek one nine, thank you. I intentionally tried to pick ones from

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different cultures. I didn't uh,
So I got Clash of the Titans,

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the Theogyny sweet uh, Theseus and
the Minotaur with the uh and and the

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myth of Sisyphus. Nice. I
also got a bonus one in there,

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Euros and Psyche, but that's just
nice. Yeah, if we need another

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one. But the first three are
the ones that I spent a good time,

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like glancing over a bunch of different
Greek myths, and I picked the

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ones that I thought were cool sweet. Yeah. But Alex, go ahead

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and tell us about Hercules. Do
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listen, I mean we might as
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that's the only one that I'm cast. Well, there's a lot. I

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found a lot of themes I want
to hear it. There was a lot

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of interesting. He was just a
very troubled dude. But I guess that's

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what's going to happen when your dad
is Zeus. So yeah, Zeus is

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his father and some no, no, Harah is his stepmother. Nora a

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demi god. Yeah, yeah,
he's a bastard. Yeah. So Harah

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hated him, and she's really the
reason his life was so messed out straight

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up. She wanted him dead.
Yeah, she tried to kill him.

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So but his stepfather, so his
mother married a king and he wasn't like

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a super special king, but he
was a king, and so he took

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a very fond liking to Hercules and
like set him up good. He had

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three tutors. He had a sport
tutor, a like a theory tutor,

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and a music tutor. And his
theory tutor, No, his sporting tutor

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was a centaur and was like from
a very young age, was like,

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do not drink, like never drink, warned him do not. What was

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his name? Was it Kirn,
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by the way, right, like
you notice there's Kirn and the astrology signs.

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Well, yea, this is the
story of how he got let's go

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Hercules. Hercules threw him into the
sky. Yeah, after he accidentally well

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we'll get to the point. Yeah. Anyway, so he's like thirteen,

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He's like, why are you telling
me not to drink? Like I'm so

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anyway, his story really kind of
starts weird when he's in the woods and

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there's two women and there's, uh, he said, like a stone,

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like a cold stone, gray looking
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the tree hollow. And then there's
like this, her name was Vice,

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this like smooth talking which woman up
at the top of the tree, and

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they were like, came here,
boy, step closer, boy, and

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she like came down and is like
caressing him and was like, basically,

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do you want a life of hardship
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And so she was ease, Vice, and this other woman was a

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life of hardship. And he remembered
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I can't remember the tutor's name,
but he was like, hardship makes a

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hero, makes a hero wise and
strong. Like basically, he was a

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thirteen year old boy feeling uncomfortable because
this grown woman was like groping him,

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and he was like just mocking his
tutor by saying these things just to avoid

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the awkwardness, is the way the
book put it, and ended up choosing

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the hard life. And they were
like so confused. She's like she hasn't

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won one in a hundred years.
And then so he chooses the hard life

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nice, which is yeah, very
noble basically like you're just gonna endure hardships.

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And he was looking to the hero's
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real like something to this. He
wanted to earn his place in Olympus or

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something to this that was well,
he didn't know at this point. He

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didn't know who his dad was.
He was just surrounded by really good people,

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solid tutors, and yeah, he
just knew he was different. He

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was like shorter and just he they
called him square because he was just as

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big wide as he was tall,
like, but it was all just brute

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strength and he was He's crazy dude. And his stepdad was a real og

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for a while until he got to
lit. So his stepfather basically wanted him

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to stay in the in Thebes,
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stepfather like actually well had him marry
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become like so that's where that comes
from, right, exactly right, exactly

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right, So he basically like adopted
him. He became Hercules of Thebes,

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and then he tried to get everybody
to drink a toast to thebes, and

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Hercules wanted to adventure. His life
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He was like thinking that the woman
the women in the forest were liars,

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and so he was like, why
aren't you drinking? He was like,

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what do you mean My chirn told
me never to drink. He's like,

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you won't just have a sip to
thebes. You don't like thebes,

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blah blah blah, like guilt tripping
him over not drinking. He's like,

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I'll toast with water. And then
his wife was like, toast with water.

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You're crazy, that's bad luck.
Blah blah blah. So they guilted

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him into drinking this wine, but
he was really mad at his dad because

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he wanted to marry his other sister, other stepsister, because she was cool

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and liked adventure and anyway, they
basically gilted him into drinking, and then

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he drank all the wine at the
function, every bit, every drop of

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wine, got blackout, drunk,
went into a rage because he was so

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mad, killed his mother, killed
his wife, killed all of his ch

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aildren, killed the servants, and
then uh was running to kill the king,

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slipped hit his head on the wall
and woke up the next morning and

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realized what he did. Damn.
Yeah, I don't remember that from the

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movie. So but this is interesting. It's like an interesting point of alcohol

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too. But the where it gets
interesting is his his father, his stepfather,

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the king, had gotten bitten by
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this, and the snake was Harah, and Harah hated him because he was

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the bastard he was. She was
mad at her, at Zeus. How

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could Zeus love a mortal woman over
me, a goddess? Yeah, and

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so she was like, because you
act like that, Yeah, yeah,

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straight up. I mean he did
it dozens and straight up. I mean

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it's just basically, it's just cruel
women ruining this poor Hercules life. It's

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true, that's ultimately what's happening here. It's also it is like that in

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the movie and the Disney movie.
At least they got that right. I've

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never seen the movie. Oh dude, you'd love it. It's not like

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very accurate at all at all.
You want to know the real reason why,

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Like big Hercules guy, it's like
a sappy, sappy reason. Apparently

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I don't remember this, but I
saw it in home videos. But apparently

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because my mom filmed everything. Apparently, when I was really really little,

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like toddler, my parents would chant
that at me something and they'd be going,

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Hercules, you know why, right, because they saw that on the

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nutty professor. I don't know if
that's really why, but I don't know

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either, but that's that's where it
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this? So, okay, so
he kills and so then the king screams

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out in the morning, he screams
out to the god Zeus, like you

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have to do something, you have
to kill this man. He's a murderer.

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He murdered his old family whatever in
a drunken rage. And Zeus came

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down, and Zeus has a soft
spot for his boy, and he's like,

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man, you know, I don't
really know what to do. Like

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it was really Zeus respected the game, like Zeus is fucked up, Like

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Zeus is not a good guy.
No, so he saw he all he

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saw from Hercules doing all of that, like horrible boy. Yeah, it

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was like damn well, no.
He came down and was really like,

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you know, it wasn't Hercules,
it was the alcohol. He was like

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this, you know, this ain't
him. And then Harah pipes up and

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is like, well, why don't
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the bond slave of his cousin for
twelve years as punishment because in her

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mind she's like she's gonna torture him, right, So he's like, what

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a great idea. So basically gave
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who was basically just a little bit
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time Hercules would come into the room, he would hide in a bronze He

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had a brass or bronze box chest
mate so that he could hide in it

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when Hercules came in, because he
was so scared of Hercules. What.

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So he was just this wimp wimp
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just total wimp. Right, So
he is like, oh, go kill

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this lion at that slain one hundred
people. So Hercules shows up, beats

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the lion to death of the club
skins him with his bare hands, comes

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back wearing the lion's pelt, and
that freaked the little kid out, like

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the little wimp out. Yeah,
So then he sent him to kill the

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hydra. Killed the hydra. Then
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Killed the boar? Are these of
his labors? Yeah? These are his

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twelve labors, and I'm trying to
remember them all. Anyway, He's he

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goes on these quest of just absolutely
destroying everything that he's told to He's like

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super noble. I mean, he's
got honestly like a pretty good deal.

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He just shows up and they're like, he's so scared of Hercules. He's

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like, what can I just send
him out to do? Like I wasn't

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ready. We weren't supposed to do
that that fast, like you were supposed

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to die, you know. And
so he sends him out, and where

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does it get interesting? It's pretty
interesting already. Yeah, I'm trying to

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like trying to remember some of the
things that I thought about that were we're

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really relevant here, really just kind
of reciting, yeah, just reciting the

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whole story. The thing that I'm
really curious about is like, based on

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what you've read and what you know, how what do you feel like is

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the deeper meaning of the story?
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Well, one big thing is definitely
that he like he like chose the

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hardship path. Yeah, that's a
huge part of it. I mean,

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he he, he chose to put
himself through all of that stuff, and

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he took the advice, and he
wanted a life of like glory, and

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he wanted to walk the hero's path
rather than taking the easy life, because

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like a lot of the gods of
Olympus are just like chilling. They're like,

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I don't got to do nothing.
I'm just gonna go out and be

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a delinquent hooligan and whatever. Yeah, it was interesting because you know,

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I had this thought and this is
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I had this thought and it was
like, we're created in God's image,

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and then you have all of these
like gods, right, these Greek

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mythology gods who are so very human
in the sense that they like respond to

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emotion. And that got me thinking, like, we're created in the really

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in the image of God. You
have all of these guys that were more

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or less created by people like these
are Demand's rendition of these gods, and

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they're all very emotional and they all
mess up. Oh yeah, like they're

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not perfect. And now we have
this image of a perfect God and everybody

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likes to go, well, if
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Why this? Why bad thing?
Why bad thing? But then you

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think about it, like through this
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God is just a little bit more
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mean, like he's been portrayed this
way with these gods. Like who's to

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say he doesn't have a bad day
and bad things happen, you know what

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I mean? Like you have bad
days and bad things happen. You know

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what I'm saying. Oh yeah,
I was actually listening to a podcast today,

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Rain Wilson's podcast. He had Surge
Tankian on from System of a Down

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and they were talking about how,
like, you know, pantheism like this,

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this idea of all of these different
gods representing different aspects of nature is

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like, in a way, a
very it's like a very true, noble

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way to look at God, like
the spirit of all things, because you

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look at you know, they used
to look at the sun and and praise

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the sun, and pray to the
God of rain, and pray to the

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God of the forest, and prayed
to the God of the harvest, and

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you know it. They saw God
in everything in their own way obviously,

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but you know, the whole idea
of like not having this like face of

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an overarching God, but rather seeing
the energy of God in all things,

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represented as these humanoid deities that are
the quote unquote God of that thing.

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It's it's really just an abstract way
of worshiping the true spirit of all things

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in each aspect of nature. You
know, it's not it's not literally that

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they're worshiping all of these different gods, or some of them were, but

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the true like scholars and say ages
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one entity. You're just doing it
through all these different faces, you know.

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the Hindu version, which is like

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there is one ultimate, supreme,
transcendent God that they recognize as Brahma and

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Brama. Is this it's basically the
idea that there's this impersonal, ultimate higher

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deity, but all of these different
you know, you have like Hanuman and

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Krishna and Shiva and Kali, all
of these different Like when you get deeper

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into Hinduism, it's not that these
are literally gods, but it's that they

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are different archetypal expressions. This stimulate
our imagination because God is so infinite and

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so inconceivable and unfathomable that in every
different person on the planet, we all

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have different perspective, different different ways
of thinking about life and interpreting things and

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experiencing things, that in the sense
that God is inside every one of us,

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there is some different archetype that resonates
with each and every one of us

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in a different way that it resonates
with everyone else. Yeah, same kind

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of concept. It's the same kind
of concept, except the Hindus like it

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was more explicit, like you know
they there is Brahma, the overarching God.

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Then yeah, but it's it's kind
of I like that outlook of it.

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It's you know, thinking about it
is not worshiping literally all these different

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gods, but they're all aspects of
the one God. Yeah, like that's

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really cool. But then it's like
at the end of the day, you

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know, the truth is the truth, you know, and there really can

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only really be one transcendent thing,
you know. Yeah, yeah, it's

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just being reference in it as all
these different figures or yeah, yeah,

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or like we you know, over
time have understood it from different lenses.

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You know, for sure, for
sure got about hercules. Well, I

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forgot the one of the coolest parts
I think was was before all of this,

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when he's in the cradle. Hara
so mad that this child is born.

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She sent two serpents into his into
his cradle to kill him. He

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choked, choked both of these serpents
and just laughing about it, and then

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was mad when they died. That's
in the movie. It's a little different.

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He's like giggling and he grabs them
and he's like ah and he chokes

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them, Yeah, chokes them out. Dude's just a fighter, like,

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not in the sense that he's aggressive, like he like, okay, yeah,

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whatever, he killed his family.
He was drunk man, you know.

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And then I feel like there's a
lesson there, oh for sure,

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for sure, Like the whole why
do they call it spirit stuff? Yeah?

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Yeah, no, that's a main
takeaway. And he didn't listen to

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the sage advice of his mentor you
know, like yeah, and if you

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really think about it, that one
decision to drink was an emotional decision driven

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by he was mad at his father
because he wouldn't let him marry the other

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girl, and after he had promised
drunkenly promised earlier. So the dude drunkenly

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promised, then everybody's drunk. He
starts getting drunk. Emotional decision to begin

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drinking, bad decision. And then
and then it all comes full circle when

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he goes to try and meet up
with Kyron, and Kyron is scared of

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him because he says, if a
man drinks once, he'll drink again.

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And up to that point, Hercules
had not drank. After he killed his

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whole family, He's like, man, I don't drink. This stuff ain't

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good. But then when he found
out that his mentor was scared of him

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and thought that he would drink again, he got mad and drank again and

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then shot his mentor with a poison
arrow that was the poison from the crab

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Cancer that Hara had sent to kill
him. After he killed the hydra,

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the crab came up out of the
swamp, and he killed the crab and

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then took the arrow out of the
crab with the black poison on it.

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Harah got so mad at the crab
she threw it into the sky and created

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the constellation Cancer. And then he, in a drunken haze, shot his

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centaur friend Kirn with this poison arrow. But Chyron is immortal, so He's

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just writhing in pain all night,
writhing in pain all day. He's like,

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you fool, you shot me with
a poison arrow. I can't die.

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I'm just in pain. And uh
so Hercules pleads with the gods and

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basically takes his friend and throws him
into the sky and he becomes the constellation.

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Sounds like his mentor was right about
this kid, and what did he

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get for it? He got thrown
into the sky. He was scared of

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him, and he did the thing
he was scared of ye and he heard

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him. Yeah, it was more
of like a but it was in a

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weird like don't meet your heroes kind
of sense, like it was he wasn't

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He was going there planning on seeing
his friend, like just wanted to.

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He was on a mission. He
hadn't slept inside in years, and he

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was like, man, I just
want to see my friend. Well,

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the dude that was at the house
was like, nah, dude, your

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your friend's scared of you. And
he's like, he called him a fool.

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He called him. The dude he
was Hercules was talking to called Kirn

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a fool, and he was like, you call my mentor a fool,

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He's right, and he drink again. I'll show you he's right. Yeah,

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it was. It's all weird,
right, that is weird. It's

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like a self fulfilling prophecy kind of
yeah. Yeah, or like the further

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you run away from your fate,
you ultimately meet it. And he decided

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his fate early on. But like
you know, it's it's like it's gotta

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be tough if you're half got well, yeah, that was like his whole

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plight and also like estranged from his
actual blood, like he didn't get to

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live in Olympus with his actual blood. You know. Yeah, Hercules,

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I changed my mind about my myth. Okay, I want to talk about

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a biblical myth, all right,
the myth of Job. Mm hmm,

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like from Arrested Development. No,
this is Job Job. Yes. I

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think it's a very important story.
It's something that h my dad has always

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talked to me about growing up,
and it was very important to him.

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You guys familiar with the Book of
Job very much. It's a negative no,

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Yeah, my dad talked about that
one a lot too. Yeah.

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I feel like a lot of dad's
talked about that one. You know.

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It's such a great story. So
essentially for those that aren't aware of the

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Book of Job. It's this guy
who's it's this Old Testament humble guy who

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I say humble because he's not like
a king or a prophet or anything like

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that. And he's basically like known
to be the most loyal to God,

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like literally like the angels in heaven
and God and even I guess it says

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Satan get together and they make bets
about how loyal he is, you know,

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they'll never curse God. He was
also a very wealthy man, was

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he The reason that they made that
Satan made that bet was because he was

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like, well, yeah, obviously
he rides for you because he's look at

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him, he's thriving, he's got
everything. He has this successful farm,

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and he's wealthy and successful and has
a happy family, and like, obviously

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he worships you. Yeah, And
Satan was like, I bet I can

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get him to curse you, And
God's like, I don't know, you

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know, he's my most loyal So
they have this bet, and basically the

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bet was you can do anything to
get him to curse you. You just

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cannot kill him. That's basically it. You can't kill him, you know,

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you can kill his livestock. You
can kill his family, you can

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send him plague, whatever you want
to do, just don't kill him.

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And ultimately he had I don't remember
how many children he had, but over

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the course of months or years,
he basically was hit with famine plague.

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All of his wealth went away.
His wife died, his children died,

406
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:56.640
They were all killed with plagues.
He actually was cursed with painful boils all

407
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.000
over his body, where even when
he laid down he was and writhing pain.

408
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:06.920
All his livestock dead, He had
nothing left, and down to the

409
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:13.839
last moment of despair, he never
cursed God. And God wins the bet.

410
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:20.599
And I think because of that he
was blessed tenfold and all of it

411
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:22.880
came out. He got a new
wife, he got like more kids,

412
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:30.240
upgrade. Everything was upgraded. More
kids, new wife, more livestock,

413
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:37.000
more wealth. Now, obviously I
don't believe that this literally happened. I

414
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.039
think that it was like an old
metaphor about you know, keeping your faith

415
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.480
in God through hardship. It can
get down to the lowest low, but

416
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:51.319
then you know you're rewarded tenfold for
your faith. And I think that that

417
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.279
is like very profound when you think
about it. I mean I do.

418
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:58.440
I do think it's true. I
think that when you because it's like,

419
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:06.039
why do hardship happen except to be
the test for how we're going to react

420
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:10.599
when things are bad. Yeah,
yeah, And you know the whole thing

421
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.039
of like Satan saying, well,
yeah, of course you're of course he's

422
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.680
happy in worshiping you because he has
everything right? Of course he does.

423
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.640
But is he going to do that
when he has nothing right? And it's

424
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:28.319
that that that absolutely is a testament
of like are you still going to believe

425
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.519
when things are bad? Are you
still going to pray when things are bad?

426
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.519
Are you still going to like praise
God when things are bad? It's

427
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:43.000
so easy, like to be you
know, have faith, or to be

428
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.759
positive or optimistic when things are good, when you're wealthy, when you don't

429
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.200
have stresses, when you don't have
things to worry about. But then like,

430
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.599
I literally believe, like blessed is
the person who can do those things

431
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:58.039
when things are bad, when things
are tough, you know, and growing

432
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.359
up, my dad would always tell
me, like, because of things getting

433
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.680
hard, he was like, it's
like job, I feel like I really

434
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.079
relate to the story. It's like
job, and someday it's all going to

435
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.119
come back, it's all going to
turn around and be positive. And he's

436
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.519
just like, we just got to
keep our faith. And you know,

437
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.760
God's time is different than our time. It works on a longer scale and

438
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.719
all this, and you know,
I don't know I think that is.

439
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:30.079
It's it's just really like profound to
me to think about. No. Yeah,

440
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.840
that's the reason that I'm familiar with
the story is it is the same

441
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:37.480
with my dad. Like stuff was
tough a lot growing up, and he

442
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.280
was just always like, look at
job, he was blessed tenfold because he

443
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.559
kept his faith. Just keep your
faith, keep praying, keep you know,

444
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.519
read your Bible. Yeah, but
I mean that's really it. That's

445
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.400
really the story. It's a short
story, yeah, but it's an important

446
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.599
one. Yeah, you're definitely quiet
over there. I just I didn't have

447
00:34:54.639 --> 00:35:00.000
to read a whole book that I
think is it's but it was more just

448
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:05.440
me understand I'm misunderstanding. Also,
I'm just super hyped up on the fact

449
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.239
that they have audio books on Spotify. Yeah, I have really I've read

450
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:16.159
three books this year on on Spotify
audio books. Like I'm I'm actually getting

451
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:21.719
some reading in because I can listen
to it, like that's yeah, that's

452
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.239
awesome. Dad's book is on Spotify
now yeah, actually, well yeah,

453
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:29.800
no it is, but me and
Olivia were. She doesn't, we're on

454
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.159
the family plan. She can't listen
to it, but I can. I

455
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.880
don't know. That's weird. Yeah, it's not really any thoughts on job

456
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.880
anything stand out to you. Yeah, a lot. Not interesting, the

457
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:45.760
same thing y'all said. I mean
I was. I always grew up being

458
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:51.639
told the greedy become the needy in
the sense that like the tighter you hold

459
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.599
onto things like that material things,
the quicker they just fall through your hands.

460
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:59.760
Yeah, but like I think life
has a way of bouncing back,

461
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.519
man. And it's like somebody told
me in the insurance game, somebody who

462
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.920
went through like highs and lows of
making a lot of money, and he

463
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:08.639
was just telling me, like,
you got to change your mindset about things.

464
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:13.039
You got to have faith, and
there's going to come a time when

465
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.679
you're ready in your life that God
will be able to open a faucet for

466
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.480
success and it'll just pour like water
and it'll be like nothing you've ever experienced,

467
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:22.480
and you just have to have the
faith. Now, put your head

468
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:28.079
down, do the work, and
you have the faith, and eventually that

469
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.679
faucet is just going to turn on
and everything's going to change. And I

470
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.440
was like, wow, that's really
profound to think about. And I do

471
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.599
think that's true. Like we talked
about this on Nature Loves Courage. It's

472
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:43.000
kind of a similar thing, I
believe, like they're not quite the same

473
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.400
thing, but I think they're similar
things like you keep your faith. Really

474
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:50.639
like when things are low, you
keep your faith, you keep your high

475
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.400
spirits, you keep your optimism,
and things turn around and they bounce back.

476
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.960
But then it's like I think if
you lose your faith. And when

477
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:00.360
I say you know your faith,
I mean in the fact that there are

478
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.760
good possible outcomes, that there are
forces that want to help us, that

479
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.760
are willing to you know, meet
us happy. Yeah. I mean if

480
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.320
you think about it from like a
personal perspective, right, like, are

481
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:15.480
you going to be more apt to
help somebody with a shitty attitude? No,

482
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.360
are you going to be more app
to help the person who's always smiling,

483
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.719
who you would never know, you
know, is going through hardship because

484
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.719
they are just like, Yeah,
everything's great, I'm on this side of

485
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.880
the ground. You know, life's
good. Like it. The attitude just

486
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.639
absolutely dictates everything, Like you are
in control me and you were talking about

487
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.440
this the other week, right,
Like you're in control of your emotions at

488
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.960
all times. It's not easy.
It's not an easy thing to transmute a

489
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:52.800
bad day into very positive emotions internally, but like you are in charge of

490
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.719
what's going on behind here well,
even like emotions, Like I think sometimes

491
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.239
it may be impossible. Like you
have your logical your rational mind, and

492
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:07.480
then you have your emotional mind,
and I think, like it's totally alright

493
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.000
for your emotional mind to be freaked
out, like, oh my god,

494
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.159
things aren't going okay, things aren't
going okay. But then in your rational

495
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.880
mind, your logical mind. I
think that's the key where the faith comes

496
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.360
in. It's like you think about
it logically, like, no, it

497
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.719
is gonna be all right. It
is gonna be alright because I do have

498
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.440
some level of control over my situation. I do have the ability to navigate

499
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:36.960
through this, and I know that
there are forces out there that are willing

500
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.599
to help me. But things are
unfolding in a way that is beyond my

501
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:44.519
perception, and I don't understand it. And sometimes things you know, just

502
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.880
have to be bad. Maybe it's
a test, maybe it's a lesson,

503
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.119
whatever, But I don't know.
I think the story of Job is super

504
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.000
profound. Yeah, I think so
too. That's a good one. Yeah,

505
00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:00.320
all right, I'm gonna do my
first one. Ready, I'm as

506
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:07.840
ready as i'll ever be. Let's
talk about the theogeny, the Clash of

507
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.599
the Titans. Are you guys familiar
with this story at all? Isn't this

508
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:22.559
a movie, remember the Titans.
Clash of the Titans, though, is

509
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.440
a fantastic movie. There's a really
old one and then there's a newer one

510
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.760
that they did fantastic. It's so
good, really good too. Yeah,

511
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:37.639
yeah, totally okay. According to
Hesiod's Theogony, in the beginning, there

512
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:45.679
was only chaos. Dense darkness covered
everything until the Earth was born out of

513
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.960
chaos, and the mountains, the
sea, and then the sky Uranus with

514
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.360
the sun, the moon and the
stars. So it's like before everything was

515
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:59.840
just dark chaos, and everything was
born out of that. Then you're in

516
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:06.119
a and Earth came together and gave
birth to the Titans. Not the football

517
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:12.880
team, but Uranus was afraid that
one of his children would take his throne.

518
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.320
That that is why he enclosed every
one of them in the depths of

519
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.480
the earth. But his son Cronus, the strongest of the Titans, defeated

520
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:24.679
him and became the world leader.
He married Reya, who gave birth to

521
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:30.360
two gods and three goddesses, Hades, Poseidon, Herah, Hestia, and

522
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:37.800
Demeter. But Cronus inherited the fear
of his father and believed that one of

523
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:43.440
his offspring would later take his throne. So when they were born, he

524
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:47.800
what did he do? Popquiz?
What? Pup quiz? Pupquiz? Nope?

525
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.760
He ate him. Yeah, well
I didn't know that. Wouldn't you

526
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:54.079
have to cut him up before you
eat him? No, dude, he

527
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:59.119
was like bigger than mountains. He
was like they were like tic tac size

528
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.360
to him. He ate him.
Uh, yeah, he swallowed them.

529
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.920
However, Reo was expecting a sixth
child and fearing it would share the same

530
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.280
fate with her other children, she
secretly gave birth on a mountain in crete

531
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:17.840
and hid the newborn there. She
named this child Zeus. She also tricked

532
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.480
Cronus into thinking he swallowed this child
too, by giving him a stone wrapped

533
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:27.840
in swaddling clothes, which Cronus swallowed, thinking it was his newborn. The

534
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.719
nymphs took care of Zeus and fed
the baby with the milk of a goat.

535
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.840
When he grew up, Zeus found
his father had tricked him into drinking

536
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:44.119
a mixture of wine and mustard.
Iww that too. I mean it can't

537
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.280
be that bad. I mean,
if you think about like ancient wine and

538
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.800
then ancient mustard, they got myths
about how bad it is. That's about

539
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:53.679
all this. Yeah, yeah,
it's right here. Yeah, it's it's

540
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.480
right here, plain and simple.
Dude, it's bad. You want to

541
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.440
try it. I'm just saying,
there's a lot of things worse than eating

542
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:06.480
that fair to the Greeks. No, why is sacred to the Greeks.

543
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:12.480
It's ambrosia. It's the nectar of
the gods. Uh ask Hercules about it.

544
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:16.400
Yeah, oh yeah. Uh So
his father tricked him into drinking a

545
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:21.679
mixture of wine and mustard, which
caused him to disgorge the contents of his

546
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:28.639
stomach. Zeus's older brothers and sisters
came out of Cronus fully grown. This

547
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:35.639
is how the Great Tinomachi began the
war between the giants and the gods,

548
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:40.840
with Zeus as their leader. This
Titanic battle lasted for ten years. The

549
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.400
gods ultimately defeated the Titans and threw
them into Tartarus, a dark and gloomy

550
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:51.599
place as far from the earth as
Earth is from the sky. Then the

551
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.840
gods fought with the giants for the
dominance of the world. The Giganta Machi

552
00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:00.000
lasted a long time as well,
but the gods were again victorious. Thus

553
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.079
Zeus became the ruler of the whole
world, and he and the other gods

554
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:09.679
settled in Olympus. Thoughts number one, I think, I think the whole

555
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:16.960
thing with the myth of in Greek
mythology, everything prior to creation being just

556
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:25.960
chaos. Chaos, Yeah, just
like dark chaos is kind of it's kind

557
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:34.840
of symbolic of like it's like directionless, it's meaningless, it's it's volatile,

558
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.320
it's it has no depth, meaning, no, no, nothing, it's

559
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.920
not It's interesting because like, okay, the Bible, the myth of the

560
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.599
Bible, you know, is that
there was just nothing before, everything was

561
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:52.159
just nothing. But in this myth
it's like it's not nothing, it's chaos.

562
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:58.960
And then through out of chaos came
order, which is the Masonic motto.

563
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.360
Pretty cool. I don't know what
do y'all think. I think that's

564
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:06.880
pretty dope. Well, dude,
you can look at so many different mythologies

565
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:13.159
that say the exact same thing.
Like the Babylonian mythology in the beginning was

566
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.840
the darkness, and it was some
bolic of I think it was Tiamot and

567
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:22.440
she was like a seven headed dragon. Yeah, yeah, all these heads

568
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.719
writhing in different directions, and it's
it's this chaos, this great void of

569
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.119
the universe, before there was light, before there was form, before there

570
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:36.320
was order. And then Marduke slays
the dragon with this special blade and cuts

571
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:37.719
its head off, and then you
know, brings order to the universe.

572
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.920
Yeah, or you have the myth
of It's like that. In Egypt,

573
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.280
some of the versions of the story
are like Noon the goddess of the watery

574
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:51.000
abyss of you know, the void, and then you have amun Rah or

575
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.679
some people say Pitta forged the universe, or I say some people as in

576
00:44:54.800 --> 00:45:00.440
like it changed over the dynastic periods
of Egypt. You know, they altered

577
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.920
their myth and stuff like that.
It's everywhere, this this concept, and

578
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.039
I think there's a reason why the
Freemasons are saying out of chaos order.

579
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.119
I think there's something to it that's
very true, you know, yeah,

580
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:14.760
I agree. Yeah. There's a
couple other cool themes though, in the

581
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:20.440
story of the Titans and stuff like
breaking generational curses. Yeah, that too

582
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.800
is a huge one, Like if
Cronus hadn't followed in his father's footsteps,

583
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.119
you know, it would have been
different. But then also it's like the

584
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:32.159
twist of fate thing, like,
yes, there was this massive, cataclysmic

585
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:39.039
like battle, cosmic battle, but
it was ultimately fate, like it couldn't

586
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:45.199
be reversed. It had to happen
that way, and everything that is came

587
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.480
because that happened. It's like it's
like one of those things where it's just

588
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.119
it's written in the stars and it's
destiny, it's fate and it must be

589
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:58.920
that way, and you know,
it's it seems like utter chaos, but

590
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:01.519
there is a re in for it. There's a cosmic reason that all of

591
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:07.400
these things are happening. The according
to Greek myth, the realms as we

592
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:13.000
know it, the world as we
know it wouldn't exist without that huge catastrophic

593
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:17.840
battle and all of that weird like
child eating and shit. So I think

594
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:21.719
it's pretty cool. Yeah, no, it's super cool. I think another

595
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:24.239
element that might not be the intention, but it's like, damn bro,

596
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.440
Like, if he didn't kill his
own dad, maybe he wouldn't have been

597
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.159
like, you know, hiding his
peace with his one eye open at night

598
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.079
while he's asleep, thinking now,
my son's gonna kill me. That's what

599
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.840
I'm saying. He had this guilt
like, yes, you know, this

600
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.119
dude's capable of what I did.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

601
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:44.079
But he thought that because he did
it, he did it. Yeah you

602
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:45.639
know. I don't know if that
was the intention, but that's what I

603
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.679
picked up. I also like just
what y'all are saying too. I also

604
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:54.639
think that if he hadn't ate his
kids, she wouldn't have a reason to

605
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:59.719
hide the last one, and it
probably never would have happened, exactly,

606
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.199
Like, there's no reason to get
at your dad if you never ate your

607
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.639
brothers and sisters, right right,
it's he brought it on himself, right

608
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:08.679
well, and then it's like he
manifested that negative things. You so tweaked

609
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.199
out about it and all she wanted
to do was see one of her kids

610
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.639
grow up. I guess yeah.
Literally, it's like karma. Could you

611
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:21.559
imagine being like one of freaking Kronos's
teenage daughters. Man, You're like trying

612
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.880
to stay out, you know,
till eleven PM with your date or something,

613
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.519
and you know he's like, you
got to be home by nine pm,

614
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.000
and they're just like, go eat
rocks, dad, you know,

615
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:36.239
just go drink mustard. Yeah,
actually, did I know? Yeah?

616
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:42.079
Well, I mean imagine being trapped
in a stomach with your brothers and sisters

617
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.760
for like your whole life, Dude, what do you what are you doing

618
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:50.599
there? And then a rock just
plops in? Like what the fuck was

619
00:47:52.599 --> 00:48:00.039
how stupid? Mustard? And ki
children and rocks and are just creating a

620
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:01.559
soup in this stuffy well. I
mean, if the dude's eating rocks,

621
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:06.920
he should be scared someone's gonna take
his place. I mean, nobody wants

622
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:12.400
a leader eating rock. Yeah,
I'd follow you if you ate rocks,

623
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.280
Alex. Screw that, I don't
even need it. What screw that?

624
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.480
Screw that dude, man, Yeah, I'm thinking that, like he ate

625
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:24.920
a rock and he's the leader of
the universe. Yeah, they got him

626
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:29.760
to eat a rock. What an
idiot, dumb ass, stupid idiot.

627
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.400
Well, if my feeds me a
rock, I'm gonna know something's up.

628
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.199
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's that's super cool. You should watch

629
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:44.199
the movie, man, it's really
And then there's a sequel called Wrath of

630
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.679
the Titans. I have not seen
that one yet. Does he eat them

631
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.360
in the movie? I don't.
They don't show, no, no,

632
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.880
no. The story this is after
they come out of the stomach. It's

633
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.760
different. Well, the Titans and
the gods and stuff are involved, but

634
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:01.519
it's more so I think it has
to do with like the Trojan War.

635
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:05.599
Maybe it's been a long time.
It's like not, you know, like

636
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:07.199
that. I think it's the Iliot
in the Odyssey. Maybe I don't know.

637
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.840
I don't think. So it's been
a long time since I've seen it,

638
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.920
so I probably just sound like an
idiot, but it's I remember it

639
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.119
being I don't think it's the Ilio. Yeah, probably not, but I

640
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:21.280
remember it being an awesome movie.
I know that much for sure. So

641
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:23.960
we should all watch it together because
it's obviously been a long time since I've

642
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.519
seen it. Well, Ryan gets
his movie theater room set up movie theater

643
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.719
room. Yeah, your living room. Oh okay. I was about to

644
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.239
say, man, we got a
studio room up in here, a movie

645
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.639
theater room. That would be cool. Man, all right, you want

646
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:43.639
to hit me with one? Yeah, sure, I would like to do

647
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.960
the myth of Osiris. I'm gonna
look it up though, generally, because

648
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:53.320
that's what we agreed that we were
gonna do, is weight, right,

649
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:59.039
right, that's what we have.
No idea what this is, just like

650
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.800
that text thread. Yeah, then
Hercules. There's a bull. Oh yeah,

651
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:07.639
what's up with the bulls? So
yeah, Poseidon's jealous. It's like,

652
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.159
why is everybody talking about Hercules?
You should be talking about me.

653
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.400
So I'm gonna make a bull and
made a bull. The bulls terrorizing Blue

654
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:21.239
Bull, it's terrorizing the town.
And everybody's like, you gotta get Hercules,

655
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.679
you gotta get Hercules, which I
guess was his plan. I don't.

656
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:29.760
I didn't really make sense to me. Hercules shows up and uh,

657
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:32.079
basically, oh, here's what I
want to say about Hercules is like,

658
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:38.039
think you think that the dude is
just like brute force, right, Like

659
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.199
I'm just gonna show up and throw
this centaur in the sky right, which

660
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.519
he did. Ye, But yeah, he's really really smart. Like in

661
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:52.280
all of the victories that he had
against these great beasts were wit They were

662
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.920
victories of the mind. Right,
He outwitted these beasts, all of them.

663
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.360
I mean he had to strength to
back it up for sure, like

664
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.800
a normal person couldn't do this.
So basically, also arguably many of the

665
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.519
other gods couldn't have done it,
even though they were just as strong,

666
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:08.039
and some of them stronger. Right, he had the mind for it,

667
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:10.639
right. And the whole time he's
getting made fun of because they said he

668
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:16.480
wasn't smart. He was smart.
So the bull thing, he basically just

669
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:22.400
had this bull chase him, and
he ran everywhere and this bull's right behind

670
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:23.440
him, and then the bull would
catch up to him, and he got

671
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:28.440
on the marble street and the bull
couldn't run as fast on the marble because

672
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:32.199
his hoofs and basically tired this bull
out and then ran into the ocean.

673
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:37.639
The bull followed him into the ocean
and then started to drown, and so

674
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:40.239
he's like, wait, this bull's
half dead drowning, and he just grabs

675
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:44.039
the bull and drags him up to
the sand and then they're just laying there,

676
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:51.719
exhausted together. And then Poseidon's half
son showed up, half mortal,

677
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:57.199
half Poseidon. Apparently the dude's huge. I mean it's a book, you

678
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:01.960
know, and so I didn't get
to see him, but that's how books

679
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:07.679
work. Yeah, and so then
they start fighting. That gets Poseidon really

680
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.199
angry. For some reason, I
thought this was his whole plan. He

681
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.639
comes out of the ocean and it's
like, yo, put my son down

682
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:17.400
because Hercules is putting the whooping on
this giant dude. And then they strike

683
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:24.679
a deal, and Hercules got a
sea horse for putting this all right,

684
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:29.960
So what's the moral there, Alex, go ahead. He didn't want the

685
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:37.320
seahorse. The moral is let a
bull chase you and you will get a

686
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:44.000
sea horse. It's just like you
know your enemy are to war. How

687
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:46.480
big is the sea horse. It's
like a full blown horse. He can

688
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:49.840
ride it. Yeah, it made
of gold. It's not a sea horse

689
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.360
a gold well, it's like shiny
gold. I'll be going to the pawn

690
00:52:52.360 --> 00:53:00.679
shop. Oh. He also pulled
h He created the straight up Gibraltar.

691
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:07.280
He like formed the yeah wow.
Yeah, he didn't want to swim over

692
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:13.159
there. He was sent over there
on a mission by the guy, and

693
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:22.280
he didn't want to swim, so
he just straight up pulled this. This

694
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:28.159
This moved you. Man moved him
somewhere. It moved him somewhere. Some

695
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.800
dude. The guy was so he
was he hide in a box. Hercules

696
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:38.199
to come back, and he'd get
into a brass box and hide like dang,

697
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:42.679
dude, Wow, this is just
so funny. I just can't imagine

698
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.639
a solid gold seahorse with the rims. You're stuck on that rims. No,

699
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:50.119
okay, wait, but you got
to understand it is a horse.

700
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.119
A horse, we get it,
that came out of the ocean, not

701
00:53:53.559 --> 00:54:00.239
a seahorse like the seahorse animal.
Oh, it's like a horse that as

702
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.760
like gills and and scales and stuff. I mean, if that's how you

703
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.079
imagine it, you know, that's
how it's explained. Yeah, it's a

704
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:13.760
book anything convertible. Yeah. Yeah, you can put the top down on

705
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:17.519
that ship, yeah yeah. And
then yeah, so he got to ride

706
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.960
around on that horse. That was
pretty cool. But the gods, the

707
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.960
lesser gods also helped him a lot. When he was going to fight the

708
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:35.280
u the hydrid they like left like
what Achilles gave some arrows. Ah,

709
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:44.159
Hermes gave something the chariot right something, So he was like decked out and

710
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:50.159
like god stuff. He was wearing
the skin of this lion like that would

711
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:53.719
protect against like cuts and stuff.
Is shocking because and all this time that

712
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:58.519
you've talked about Hercules, there's one
key element you haven't mentioned once. What's

713
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:02.960
that his strength? I feel like
that's implied, but you know, I

714
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.840
was, dude, he threw a
centaur to space. Yeah, but I

715
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:12.000
was kind of hoping you would go
into like why is he strong? Well,

716
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.360
he's just the son is Zeus,
Like you just straight up they all

717
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:19.079
strong like that prove why is he? Well, they're not all as strong

718
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.840
as Hercules. And I think it's
probably because, like Hercules actually tried.

719
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:29.039
It's like Freezer like for his whole
race, Like they're all strong, but

720
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:34.400
Freezers the one because he tries well. Kyron was his sports tutor, like

721
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.360
he had been training sports. I
was kind of hoping there would be some

722
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:44.360
like spec special magical reasons. I
had a glitch there. I was hoping

723
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:47.880
there'd be some special, freaking precise
reason why he had a strength. I

724
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:52.079
kind of think that it's like I
don't know. I think it's supposed to

725
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.400
be like a motivational tale, like
your everybody's made in the image of God.

726
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.960
You can be like Hercules, like
you, you can reach this potential.

727
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:04.639
Now we're onto something. That's what
I think, honestly. Yeah,

728
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:10.159
And like you know, but being
smart and winning battles with wit is just

729
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:15.559
as important, Like you cannot be
just all muscle. Yeah, like you

730
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.039
have to understand, you have to
know your enemy, you have to know

731
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.639
what you're doing, like you,
he won everything with wit, you know.

732
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.400
I mean, it could certainly help
that he could throw a centaur space.

733
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.519
I'm not going to avoid that,
you know, as a positive,

734
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:32.840
that would be nice. Yeah,
I mean if if I just like somebody

735
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:36.400
got on my nerves mad enough,
if I could throw him to space,

736
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:40.239
dude. But really, really,
he put his buddy out of his misery.

737
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:46.039
He felt so bad that he had
poisoned this immortal being like you,

738
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:50.079
he can't die. He's just in
pain the rest of his life, and

739
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.920
he's like kill me. You know, probably would have passed in a day

740
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:58.159
or two. But Hercules was just
like nah, no, no, Kiren

741
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.039
is begging him to kill him.
Yeah, he was like please, you're

742
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.800
the son of Zeus, like do
something, and he was like okay,

743
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.440
said a little prayer, and then
threw him into space and he was like,

744
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.719
yeah, he's gonna become a constellation
for his race to idolize and like

745
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:17.320
have there every night forever. And
then Kyron's brother ended up being the reason,

746
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.440
the reason that he died kind of. But it was also a woman.

747
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:24.440
It's like girls have just been ruining
this dude's life since the beginning.

748
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:30.599
I mean, this is what it
is. It's just it's the way it

749
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:36.320
is, man Like. It's the
curly hair. Bro, It's the Disney

750
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.199
movie version of Hercules with the curly
hair. They see that. It ain't

751
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:43.000
even the muscles. Bro. Oh
you're saying it makes it makes the lady's

752
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:45.719
trip. Oh yeah, Man,
he didn't have a he didn't have a

753
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.199
beard in the Disney movie, did
he. No, Yeah, he had

754
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:52.639
a straight up big beard. Yeah, he had no beard in the Disney

755
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:58.360
He was clean faced as hell with
a tiny little chin, the tiniest chin,

756
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.639
that's true. Tiny kind of a
tiny dude for a little bit there.

757
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:05.719
Yeah, for a minute, he
was a little Yeah. So moving

758
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.239
on to the story of Osiris,
Isis and Horus. This is one of

759
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:13.280
my very favorite myths. From Geb
the earth god and Nut the sky goddess,

760
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:16.320
came four children, Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthis. Osiris

761
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:19.880
was the oldest and so became the
king of Egypt, and he married his

762
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:24.400
sister iris Isis sorry. Osiris was
a good king and commanded the respect of

763
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:28.280
all who lived on the earth and
the gods who dwelt in the nether world.

764
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.400
However, Set was always jealous of
Osiris because he did not command the

765
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:35.840
respect of those on earth and those
in the nether world. One day,

766
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:39.800
Set transformed himself into a vicious monster. I believe it was Apophus, the

767
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:45.119
dragon of darkness, attacked Osiris and
killed him, cut him up into fourteen

768
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:51.719
pieces, distributed his body all over
the Nile River. When he died,

769
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:59.400
Set became the king of Egypt.
His sister his wife, and queen Nephthis

770
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:05.880
felt sorry for her sister Isis,
who mourned and wept over Osiris. Isis

771
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.480
had this great magical power and decides
to find the pieces of her husband and

772
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:15.639
use her magic to bring him back
to the dead. Together with nepthis Isis

773
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.079
roam the countree. I'm sorry,
the text is really small, and I'm

774
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.320
my glass. I'm collecting the pieces
of her husband's body and reassembling them.

775
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.800
Then she uses her magic breathes life
into him and resurrects him from the dead.

776
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:31.119
And then when Cyrus and Isis are
together, Isis becomes pregnant and she

777
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:36.280
gives birth to Horace. He becomes
the Lord of the Underworld. And then

778
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.079
Horace is born and he becomes the
King of Egypt, which I guess you

779
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:45.119
know, King of the world.
The children born to Isis was named Horaus,

780
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.320
the hawk God. As he becomes
an adult, he decides to make

781
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.000
a case before the Court of Gods
that he, not Set, is the

782
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:57.199
rightful king of Egypt. A long
period of arguments followed. Set challenges Horace

783
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.639
to a contest where the winner would
become the king. Set doesn't play fair.

784
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:07.840
After several matches, he cheats Was
the victor. Horace's mother, Isis

785
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:12.639
decides to help her son set a
trap for Set, so she snares him,

786
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:14.679
but Set begs for his life and
Isis let him go. When he

787
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:16.360
found out that she had let his
enemy live, Horace became angry with his

788
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:20.559
mom rages against her. He earns
the contempt of all the other gods,

789
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:22.880
and they decide that there would be
one more match, and Set would get

790
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.760
to choose what it will be.
He decides that the final round of the

791
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.599
contest will be a boat race.
However, in order to make the contest

792
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.199
a challenge, Set decides that he
and Horace should race boats made of stone.

793
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:36.719
Horace, is tricky, builds a
boat made of wood covered with limestone

794
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.360
plaster, which looked like stone.
As the gods a symbol for the race,

795
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:45.400
Set cut the top off of a
mountain wow to serve as his boat

796
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:47.199
and set it in the water.
His boat sinks right away, and all

797
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:51.880
the other gods laughed at him.
Angry, Set transforms himself into a hippopotamus

798
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.639
and attacks Horace's boat. Horace fights
off Set, but the other gods stopped

799
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:59.280
him before he could kill Set.
The other gods decide that the match was

800
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:01.280
a tie. Many of the other
gods were sympathetic to Horace, but remembered

801
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:05.000
his anger towards his mother for being
lenient to Set, and were unwilling to

802
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.639
support him completely. The gods who
formed the court decided to write a letter

803
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:12.559
to Osirius and ask for his advice. Osiris responds that his son is the

804
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:15.360
rightful king and will be placed upon
the throne. No one said Osiris should

805
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.559
take the throne of Egypt through an
active murder, as set had done,

806
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:22.679
had killed Osiris, but Horaus hadn't
killed anyone and was the better candidate.

807
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.960
The son and the stars, who
were Osiris's allies, descended into the underworld,

808
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:30.360
leaving the world in darkness. Finally, the gods agreed the Horus will

809
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:34.800
claim his birthright as the king of
Egypt. So there's a few things here.

810
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.920
Osiris was a solar deity. He's
depicted as like mummified green skin,

811
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:45.239
you know, in a tomb,
sarcophagus, mummified all that stuff, and

812
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.000
he's the lord of the underworld.
But before that depiction, he was a

813
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:52.760
solar entity. And then his son
Horace in the uh well, when he

814
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:57.719
comes around, he's like syncretized with
Osiris. They're like one. They're like

815
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.440
a father and child dud kind of
like God and Jesus. Was Horace depicted

816
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:07.320
as like a bird okay, and
was set like the alligator guy normally or

817
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:09.559
no, I don't know if he
was an alligator, but he turns into

818
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:14.440
a pophas, the dragon of darkness. Right, so, right off the

819
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:19.719
rip here we have this allegory of
the eternal war of dominion between the light

820
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:22.880
and the dark. You know,
the sun rises each day and then it

821
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:24.639
has its period, and then it
sets, and then the darkness rises.

822
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:30.960
The sun goes into the underworld.
It sets, yes, the sun rises,

823
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:35.760
and then it descends into the underworld, and the darkness rises Apophus the

824
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:39.280
serpent that brings the darkness, but
then it descends because Horace rises, you

825
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:44.519
know, into the throne. It's
this eternal battle. Another cool thing is

826
01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:52.159
that the word Satan actually supposedly comes
from Set because the Persians said Chitan,

827
01:02:52.880 --> 01:03:00.400
which scholars believe could be linked to
the Egyptian version of Set. That they

828
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:07.559
referenced that deity as Chaitan, which
is etymologically where the word Satan may have

829
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:12.079
come from over time. But very
cool. But what what do y'all?

830
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:17.960
What's y'all's takeaway? I like the
whole thing about how like Horace is the

831
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:24.920
true leader of Egypt because he didn't
like murder and he didn't like stoop to

832
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:30.960
the lowest lows to try to to
he wasn't. He wasn't after claiming the

833
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:34.880
throne for like ultimate power or whatever. He was just trying to honor his

834
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.000
father kind of thing, and like
defeat the darkness. And and yeah,

835
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:43.119
sure he might have made a janky
boat with with limestone lining or whatever.

836
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:46.280
He ain't right, right, right, But I don't think that's the moral.

837
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:51.639
But he didn't. He he didn't
stoop to the lows that Set was

838
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:55.039
willing to stoop to. He didn't
like give in to the ultimate darkness.

839
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:59.800
He didn't cut him into fourteen pieces, right, and Set did. And

840
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:03.679
and so ultimately I feel like the
moral is like to do it the right

841
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:10.440
way, like to achieve if glory
is your goal, do it the right

842
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:14.440
way, like, because what is
glory if you gained it through darkness?

843
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:16.440
Right? You know? Yeah,
I agree with that. And then another

844
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:21.320
cool element of the story, which
obviously wasn't said in that little like pop

845
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:26.679
version of the myth. And we
have talked about this before, probably like

846
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:30.639
over one hundred episodes ago. But
the cool part is like the Obelisk of

847
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:34.760
Egypt actually comes from this story because
the idea is that the fourteenth piece of

848
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:41.159
Osiris as is wiener I was going
to say it more gently, but his

849
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:47.280
member. I think Wiener's plenty gentle. Yes, Wiener, it's pretty gentle.

850
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.960
I was going to say, Phallis, that's less gentle. Do you

851
01:04:51.960 --> 01:05:00.199
remember that I watched that episode to
day. I can't believe you. It's

852
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:02.840
the of the Office. It's the
one you're talking about the Office, dude,

853
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:06.519
No, no, Phyllis and Fallis. No we said that on the

854
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:12.000
podcast. Oh oh yeah, yeah, I was talking about the Office.

855
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.400
Do you remember the episode where Phyllis
gets flashed. Yeah? Yeah, Well

856
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:20.679
Dwight is like talking to everybody and
he's referencing Phyllis and he accidentally says foul

857
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:24.639
the guys like parking lot, yes, and he goes, sorry, I've

858
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:29.800
got penis on the brain. That's
literally how I was sitting here thinking that

859
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.159
you were going back and watching throw
it back. No, no, no,

860
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:34.159
but I do remember that. That's
why I was like, wow,

861
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:38.760
you saw that today. It's probably
like over one hundred episodes. No,

862
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.760
no, no, but I remember
that now. Wow. Yeah, but

863
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:44.079
that's super cool. And that's where
the obelisk comes from. And she uses

864
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:48.559
her magical power and she restores it
into gold and it esoterically represents like the

865
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:55.280
generative power of the masculine forces of
the universe, but also the feminine using

866
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:58.559
the magic to heal it and restore
it. Yeah, you know, talk

867
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:02.880
about lead to gold, baby,
Yeah, baby, talking about dead to

868
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:09.639
gold something. But you know that's
what I make that deal. I bet

869
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:15.559
you would. Yeah, go never
mind never you just watch him censor himself

870
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:20.840
in real time. I'm just concerned, why is everybody's mom getting in the

871
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:27.440
mix and kind of mucking it up
here, like across across all these myths.

872
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:33.360
What's the deal with that? Sometimes
mom suck? I guess that's the

873
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.320
moral. I wouldn't go that far. I'm just like, there's gotta be

874
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:42.840
something here. Yeah. Also,
why they all be like marian man,

875
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:45.519
Yeah, yeah, I think I
just think you're dating pool is limited.

876
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.320
Yeah that's yeah. I mean you're
dealing with like a whole world and you

877
01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:51.760
got twelve people on it, you
know what I mean. Yeah, it's

878
01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:59.159
a small town. Yeah, it's
a small West Virginia the planet road time.

879
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.639
When you think about it, man, like the significance of this myth

880
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:08.480
or just like Egypt in general,
like obelisks are everywhere. Dude, did

881
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:13.360
y'all know that in every major city
of the world there obelisk model. I

882
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:16.199
saw the one in Rome. Every
major city, Like when I say major

883
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:20.840
city, I mean like Paris is
to lift the lay lines thing. Yes,

884
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:27.719
yeah, yes, really, yes, no way, yes, it's

885
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:32.079
a lay lines thing. Yes.
So they they built them right because there

886
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:35.239
it's an obelisk at the top.
So it goes from like square to point,

887
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:45.480
so you have basically two lines.
Sorry sorry, go ahead, sorry

888
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:54.639
sorry, goes from square to point
and well it's supposed to do so anyway,

889
01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:01.960
I'm sorry. So it's like a
disper No. So they build the

890
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:08.199
struggling with the words here. They
build them so that they line up with

891
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:12.960
these lay lines that apparently run across
the earth, and they're pulled, they're

892
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:17.279
put up so that they like put
they transmit energy. They pull the lay

893
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:23.359
lines above the ground where people are, so they basically like create a like

894
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:29.239
an overpass of lay line energy so
that you live underneath it. Because weird

895
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:33.560
things happen in the lay lines.
Whow. Doctor Robert Gilbert told my dad

896
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:40.640
one time that's how I knew about
the obelisks in the US, the major

897
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:44.880
cities. Yeah, and he said
that there's something about the geometry and the

898
01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:49.159
shape of obelisks that they transmit energy. So obviously someone in the know,

899
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:55.279
I mean, we know that there's
like this elite group of people in power

900
01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:58.920
throughout the world who have this ancient
occult knowledge and they understand the significance of

901
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:03.399
it. And dude, like we
know, Freemasons are aware of like how

902
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:08.600
energy transmits through certain geometric shapes.
Yeah, you know, like it's a

903
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:13.479
big part of freemasonry. Yeah,
and like how they design cathedrals and temples

904
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:18.520
and stuff like that for energy to
accumulate in certain parts of the building and

905
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:24.680
eastward facing uh what do you call
it? Altars and all this knowledge that

906
01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:28.600
we are not aware of, you
know. And the idea is that they

907
01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:34.119
are creating a power grid around the
world with these obelisks. Whoa, that's

908
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:38.800
so wide. A lot of graveyards
have obelisks too. Yeah, even a

909
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:44.880
lot of tombstones are obelisks. And
I thought it was weird when we got

910
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:53.000
that thing for the house, the
mesh and they transmit the signal. Yeah,

911
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:55.840
you know, it's probably benign,
you know, I mean, I

912
01:09:55.880 --> 01:09:59.560
don't know, it's pretty interesting.
It is interesting. It is pretty interesting.

913
01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:00.840
That. It's a cool myth.
There's a there's a lot beneath the

914
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:04.159
surface with it, you know,
But that's a cool one. Yeah,

915
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:10.359
I like it. All right,
I'll do another one if you if you

916
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:12.760
insist, we got time for one
more. Let's run it, all right?

917
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:17.159
Cool, let's do y'all want Theseus
and the Minotaur or the myth of

918
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:23.720
Sisyphus Sisyphis, Sisyphis it is?
Are you familiar? No? No,

919
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:27.319
Sisyphis is a really cool one.
It's pretty, it's pretty wide. Was

920
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.920
Sisyphis like a titan? No?
No, I don't know. I don't

921
01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:36.960
think so watch I'm gonna read this
sounds familiar though reading earlier, we should

922
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:42.600
have done Prometheus and the Fire.
Yeah, yeah, it's actually I know

923
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.119
that was in my book, right. The only reason I didn't do Prometheus

924
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.239
is because we've talked about it a
couple of times. On the Lighthouse Lighthouse

925
01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:57.680
episode, Hercules came across Prometheus.
What was that encounter? Like? Uh,

926
01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:00.359
he basically just walked on him one
day, chain up with the hawks

927
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.920
eating his liver. He oh yeah, yeah, Hercules rolled up. So

928
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:08.800
Hercules rolled up and is like,
what's up, dude? And He's like

929
01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:12.319
oh, you know, just here
for eternity watching these hawks eat my liver.

930
01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:15.520
And he was like, okay,
well he like jumped up and grabbed

931
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:17.920
all the hawks, put him in
a bag and beat them to death.

932
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:24.359
Hercules did. And then Hercules just
snapped the chains that he was chained to

933
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:27.079
the rock with and was like,
all right, see you later. Yeah,

934
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.560
that's one thing before we get into
this one. That's one thing I

935
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:31.640
love about the Greek myth is it's
it's kind of like it's kind of like

936
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:38.479
Marvel, right, Like there's this
overarching primordial lore, but then there's like

937
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:45.399
this cinematic universe where like Hercules walking
through oh shit, it's uh yeah,

938
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.359
I remember your story, you know, and they're like in each other's stories.

939
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:50.640
It's kind of a crossover episodes.
Well, well, the whole myth

940
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:56.920
of Theseus and the Minotaur takes place
in the labyrinth, and the story of

941
01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:01.319
Icarus starts in the labyrinth. They
are building the labyrinth. They're building and

942
01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:08.520
they use and then whoever it was
Theseus, I think, who who hired

943
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:13.399
them to make the labyrinth he locks
them in it and they're like, how

944
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:15.680
do we get out of here?
And then they make the wings with the

945
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:17.960
wax, and we know the rest
it gris flies too close to the sun.

946
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:26.079
Yeah, okay, Sisyphis, all
right, Once upon a time Corinth

947
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:32.880
was a very strong Greek city state
Corinthians. It makes sense, the remains

948
01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:35.079
of which can be found to this
day. Dude, I'm mind blown.

949
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:40.560
Yeah, that's where Corinthians comes from. The city of Corinth it is.

950
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.640
I think there's like a there's a
bunch of there's all kinds of Greek stuff

951
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:46.399
in the Bible, oh for sure. Some sources refer to the Great City

952
01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:51.640
of Ephirah as the city founded by
Sisyphis, which was later named Corinth.

953
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:58.680
Others say that the witch Media or
Medea we love those movies gave Corinth to

954
01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:04.239
Sisyphus, who became it's king.
One day, Osophos's daughter Aegina who had

955
01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:09.359
been adducted or had been adducted by
Zeus, and when a Sophos asked if

956
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:15.720
Sisyphus had seen anything, Sisyphus mentioned
that he saw Zeus fly over with Aegina.

957
01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:20.079
Ooh, the dramas for real.
When Zeus heard that, he got

958
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:25.239
angry that he was betrayed by a
mortal. So the king of the gods

959
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:31.119
sent Death to take Sisyphus's life.
However, when Death came to chain Sisyphus,

960
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:36.199
the latter asked Death a demonstration of
how the chains work, and then

961
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:44.880
deceived Death and chained Death instead.
The imprisonment of Death meant that he could

962
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:49.680
not come for any human, and
people stopped dying altogether. The gods,

963
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:53.960
in response, sent Aris, the
god of war, to free Death.

964
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:59.119
This time, Death took Sisyphis in
his chains and led him to the world

965
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:02.479
of the dead, the un world
kingdom of Hades. However, before he

966
01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:09.399
died, Sisyphus asked his wife Muropi
not to bury him properly by neglecting to

967
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:13.920
put a coin in his mouth.
This way, he could not pay car

968
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.680
on the faery man to cross the
River Styx, because you know, that's

969
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.319
why they put the coin. They
would either put it on the eyes or

970
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:24.159
in the mouth to pay the ferryman
so that they could get to the to

971
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:28.479
cross the river sticks. Rather,
the lack of a proper burial disturbed Hades

972
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:33.920
so much that he sent Sissyphis back
to the living. Thus Sisyphus managed to

973
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:39.239
escape death once more. When the
gods finally managed to catch Sisyphis again.

974
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:44.840
They decided that his punishment should last
forever. They made him immortal. They

975
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:48.920
made him push a rock up a
mountain. Every time the rock would reach

976
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:54.600
the top, it would roll down
again and Sisyphus would have to start all

977
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:59.159
over for the rest of eternity.
So what exactly is it that he's being

978
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.960
punished for for death? Well,
a few things. Yeah, he cheated

979
01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:08.199
death. He also like imprisoned death. And then he also lied to Zeus,

980
01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:12.039
you know he and you don't do
that. You won't do that,

981
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:16.359
you won't do that. Zeus is
a wrathful god. He is a spiteful,

982
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:21.279
wrathful if you cross him in any
way, Unles, Yeah, oh

983
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:26.560
yeah, he's very forgiving to most
of his children. Yeah, Zeus is

984
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:30.760
like Tony Soprano and his dad.
Man. That's that's the vibes I get

985
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:35.560
from him. So so basically,
the every time you see Sissyphus depicted,

986
01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:44.119
it's like this super buff like Greek
figure pushing this massive boulder up a mountain.

987
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:46.159
But that's not to be confused with
Atlas. No, no, who

988
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.880
had the weight of the world on
his shoulders. No, No, Sisyphus

989
01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:57.159
rolled this massive boulder and and like
he didn't have like absurd strength like Hercules,

990
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:00.399
Like he was a normal dude.
So for the most part, Yeah,

991
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:03.039
yeah, Hercules took Atlas's place for
a couple of days. Of course,

992
01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:08.960
he did Hercules, then so did
Superman. Yeah it's true. Yeah,

993
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:12.760
it's true. He took it for
a day and then Atlas didn't want

994
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.640
to give it back and he had
to essentially trick Atlas into taking the world

995
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.560
back or the heavens back on his
shoulders. Yeah. See, and the

996
01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:23.279
Superman version is different. He came
and he took it back. Mm hmm.

997
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:27.279
Right, and that's the real Yeah, that's the real lore. We

998
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:30.159
all know that the Superman is the
real one. Yeah, I'll have to

999
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:33.399
read that book next. But yeah, every time you see Sissfis, he's

1000
01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:38.119
depicted with pushing this massive boulder up
a hill and every time it gets to

1001
01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:41.399
the top, it rolls back down. They really have creative ways of like

1002
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:45.359
coming up with eternal punishment. Yeah, they do. My I don't know,

1003
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:49.239
I mean, my my initial hot
take on that is like all mortals

1004
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:56.119
die and it's an eternal cycle.
I mean it's like, maybe I'm reading

1005
01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:58.880
too much into this here, but
like the boulder. You toil your whole

1006
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:00.479
life. You push the boulder up
the hill and then it rolls back down

1007
01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:05.199
and you know, it's just this
unending cycle that goes over and over and

1008
01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:10.039
over. I could be way off, but no, that that makes sense

1009
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:12.720
to me. This is gonna be
pretty left field. But think about like

1010
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:16.319
vampires who like and then like people. You know, they have their like

1011
01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:20.720
familiars who are desperate to become vampires
because they want to live forever. But

1012
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:27.159
then all vampires talk about how miserable
it is right living forever because you see

1013
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:30.880
everyone you love die and everything turns
gray and everything that loses meaning and like

1014
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:38.359
all this stuff. So it's like
he cheated death, but his punishment was

1015
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:42.159
to live forever. And oh you
like to cheat death? Yeah, here

1016
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.359
you go, right right, Yeah, you you want to live so bad?

1017
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:49.319
Let's show you what you get,
Like, let's let's show you what

1018
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:53.760
that looks like. Like it's a
it's a metaphor, I feel like for

1019
01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:58.800
yeah, for like you know you
don't you shouldn't want to live forever,

1020
01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:02.560
like you shouldn't want to No,
it loses all meaning, it becomes it

1021
01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:08.760
becomes a toil, right, you're
essentially pushing, Like every time you push

1022
01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:12.399
that boulder up the mountain, that's
one life. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1023
01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:16.319
like you're doing meaningless work for nothing. Well no, I just mean in

1024
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:21.520
a sense that like your whole life
is just everybody's life is just pushing the

1025
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:26.479
envelope, pushing the boulder up the
hill, like trudging on, continuing,

1026
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:30.279
continuing. Then you get to the
top, right, you will get to

1027
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.119
the top of the mountain, and
that's where you get Yeah, right,

1028
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:40.039
cool, done with that boulder,
right, No, his punishment is it's

1029
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:43.199
like the boulder is like the burden
of life. Yes, yeah, the

1030
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:45.760
hardships that what I think. Yeah, like the hardships that we carry with

1031
01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:48.840
us, like the hard things about
life. Toil your whole life and then

1032
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:57.319
you die. Yeah wow, but
that's true. Yeah, it's very nihilistic.

1033
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:01.640
No, it's not that I'm nihilist. I don't think it's for nothing

1034
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:05.760
though, because really, like we're
mining gold, dude, Like we come

1035
01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:09.800
here. The rule of life.
It even says it in the Bible,

1036
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:15.039
like after Adam and Eve fell from
the garden, mankind was cursed to toil

1037
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:20.279
the soil to work, right,
But I think that's a deeper metaphor,

1038
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:27.079
like we come into this material world. We are fallible. We have hunger,

1039
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:30.840
we have we need shelter, we
need certain X y Z conditions to

1040
01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:35.600
just survive alive, yeah, to
be alive, to not die. And

1041
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:38.399
then we have to work, work, work, work, work to like

1042
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:42.000
literally stay alive. And then on
top of that, it's like, wait,

1043
01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.680
are we supposed to be like having
some sort of profound spiritual revelation here?

1044
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.159
Yeah, you know what I mean, it's not for nothing. We're

1045
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:53.680
toiling, but like we're mining gold, dude. The gold is the you

1046
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:58.720
know, the spiritual knowledge that we're
supposed to achieve here, right, And

1047
01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.920
then going back to that in His
image thing. You know what did God

1048
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:08.000
do? God created? Yeah,
seven days you were created, He worked,

1049
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:12.039
and now we're created in his image. And like we are hardwired to

1050
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:15.359
work, we're hardwired to build.
Like if you're not working or building or

1051
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:20.119
creating something, it's you're you're something's
off. Now, look, it's the

1052
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:28.000
natural state right here at BSS.
We are not saying that you should be

1053
01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:30.920
doomed to go work at nine to
five right your whole life. No,

1054
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:33.560
that's not the point of this,
that's not I don't think that's what God

1055
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:39.880
intended. I think that the human
mind thrives when we have goals to work

1056
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:44.119
towards. Yeah, work could be
working on yourself, right, working to

1057
01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:47.000
become a better person, not sitting
around every day like doing nothing, not

1058
01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:51.000
trying to achieve anything in life.
But you know, just just I mean,

1059
01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:56.039
it's it's like proven you know,
psychology studies and everything, like when

1060
01:20:56.079 --> 01:21:00.159
you have something to achieve, whether
it's oh, I'm a painter, but

1061
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:01.800
I haven't painted in a while,
get up and paint, you know good,

1062
01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:03.960
Or I want to practice an instrument, get up and do it.

1063
01:21:04.079 --> 01:21:08.720
Or if you are going after that
promotion at you're nine to five too,

1064
01:21:08.920 --> 01:21:13.039
Right, anything's better than nothing.
We have to work towards something, We

1065
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:15.800
have to do something, We have
to achieve something to evil make work,

1066
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:19.720
makes work of vital hands, that's
right. You know, two thousand years

1067
01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:25.600
ago you had artisans whose whole life
was toiling, you know, with a

1068
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:29.359
freaking loom making clothes or dude,
and they were sorry to cut you off.

1069
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:31.399
You know what I'm fired up about. I think apprenticeships need to come

1070
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:34.600
back. Yes they do. Yeah, that's that's where the problem is here.

1071
01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:39.439
I mean, we need we need
bakers, we need blacksmiths. We

1072
01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:44.800
still we need like actual like we
need people. So in Italy they have

1073
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:49.159
in Venice is the center of the
world for like glass blowing and like like

1074
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:55.800
artists and glass making, and like
their chandeliers are thirty to ninety thousand dollars

1075
01:21:55.880 --> 01:22:00.279
because they're just so meticulous and they're
having such an the only way you get

1076
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.920
into that is an apprenticeship, like
you have to go at like thirteen years

1077
01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:10.720
old and you begin the process of
this like historic family business of glass making,

1078
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:13.720
and no one there is interested in
doing that at all, and so

1079
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:17.680
the industry is just absolutely dying because
they're having such a hard time getting young

1080
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:25.239
people who are so infatuated with the
West, getting them to embrace their traditional

1081
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:30.960
values and go after these apprenticeships.
But I think in all aspects of everything,

1082
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:36.880
like all of these like ancient and
absolutely nesess necessary necessary like trades,

1083
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:42.880
like I mean it really, in
my opinion, something has got to like

1084
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:45.439
happen here as far as that goes. Dude, I agree, man.

1085
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:49.560
When you were talking about the Hercules
story in the beginning of the episode,

1086
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:54.119
I was thinking in my head,
like that's the freaking One of the problems

1087
01:22:54.119 --> 01:23:00.159
with America is like who has a
mentor anymore? Yeah? Who? It

1088
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:02.600
can change your life? Who's a
disciple of some ancient art anymore? It's

1089
01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:06.279
extremely rare, yeah, dude.
And like the America's version of that is

1090
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:11.920
just unpaid interns. Yeah yeah,
or like fast coffee, a manager that

1091
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:14.119
you know you want to get on
their good side and you know, be

1092
01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:17.640
promoted through the system. Dude.
In Germany, the way there's thing works

1093
01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:24.800
is like you either go to university
or you take the fast track to a

1094
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:28.159
trade. And you get out of
high school and oh, I'm either going

1095
01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:32.000
to university for some degree or I'm
going to a trade and you start working

1096
01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:36.319
towards that trade when you're like sixteen, dude. I feel like even when

1097
01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:41.760
we were kids, it was a
thing in America, Like I heard people

1098
01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:45.720
talk about that all the time.
Like I heard when I was like sixteen

1099
01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:47.680
seventeen, it was like I heard
it all the time, like you either

1100
01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:50.680
got to go to school or you
got to get into some kind of trade.

1101
01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:55.439
You got and you don't hear that
at all anymore, right at all?

1102
01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:59.640
You got to get into some and
I think I think it still exists,

1103
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:02.359
but like nowhere near on the scale
that it used to. It's like

1104
01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:06.439
you have to you have to go
find it. Yeah, I wish,

1105
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.359
Mike. I mean, I'm not
going to throw anybody under the bus here,

1106
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:13.760
but I wish my counselor had done
my high school counselor would have done

1107
01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:17.399
a little bit better job and kind
of exploring my options outside of college because

1108
01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:20.760
I was dead set I'm not going
to college. And I was like from

1109
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:26.159
junior year of high school telling her
I do not plan on doing this,

1110
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:28.479
and she kind of was just like, okay, well let's just get you

1111
01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:31.720
through high school, like no future
planning, nothing. I was like that

1112
01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:35.600
two hours. I guess I don't
ever remember having like a meaningful conversation with

1113
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:40.600
a high school guidance counselor. Dude, I don't think I even ever spoke

1114
01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:44.880
to a guidance counselor in school.
Yeah, no, it was it was

1115
01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:47.920
just like what college you want to
go to? You know here, apply

1116
01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:50.680
for this one, right, oh
you need this. You can get class

1117
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:54.920
grants or they graduate. Yeah.
I mean I don't remember it ever being

1118
01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:58.119
but going back to the mentor thing, like, I mean, you know,

1119
01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:01.800
if I I would like immediately,
and this is for the listener,

1120
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:06.960
think of like who in your circle, and think of your circle, your

1121
01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:15.119
parents' circle, whatever is the most
wealthy, the most influential, or like

1122
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:18.920
means the most to you, and
then just straight up go ask that person

1123
01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:23.319
will you mentor me in a sense
that like can we just grab coffee once

1124
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:26.119
a week and like can I just
pick your brain? Like you will be

1125
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:29.920
amazed. I mean, you just
start surrounding yourself with people like this and

1126
01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:32.039
just learn from them, and if
it becomes too much for both of you,

1127
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:35.399
then then move on find somebody else, or if there's someone in your

1128
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:42.000
work that you like really aspire or
look up to, just straight up out

1129
01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:45.119
I mean you'll be amazed. I
mean you know, like I've done it.

1130
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:47.039
It's so awkward. It's like,
you know, will you be my

1131
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:50.119
mentor in a sense that like can
I pick your brain from time to time?

1132
01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:54.880
And like I've never had anybody be
like are you kidding me? No?

1133
01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:58.760
Yeah, you know that's how That's
how my brother started his business which

1134
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:01.399
is now like very sick, tessful. He supports his whole family and like

1135
01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:06.079
they live a very comfortable life and
he literally started it because he just had

1136
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:10.239
a couple of people that he looked
up to that did it, and he

1137
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:15.800
humbled himself and asked them to go
to dinner and like was like I want

1138
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.079
to do what you do, Like
can I can I work with you some

1139
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:23.880
and like learn how to do this, And like he's a few years later

1140
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:29.119
he has a very successful business.
It works. That's awesome. It does

1141
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:32.520
work, Absolutely does work. I
always had certain mentors and sales that I

1142
01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.479
would cling to that would, you
know, teach me the inside tricks of

1143
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:39.039
the trade and things like that.
But I know that was like way out

1144
01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:41.039
of left field. But I totally
agree, man Like, I think that

1145
01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:44.199
is one of the problems today.
Man Like, nobody wants to really guide

1146
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:46.560
anybody anymore, and in the system
just ain't set up for that anyway.

1147
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:51.520
It's not the system is a dreary
place. We're set up to fail.

1148
01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:58.479
I mean, we're set up to
toil for toil and the soil, but

1149
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:01.359
it ain't told a soil is to
a rent, yeah, and you know,

1150
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:04.800
to rent. But it is what
it is, man, because we're

1151
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:10.159
we're we're visualizing positive outcomes, that's
right, right, you know, we're

1152
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:16.199
practicing faith. Yes, active faith, active faith, and and uh,

1153
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:20.199
we're we're we're taking that leap into
the abyss and landing on the feather bed

1154
01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:26.079
exactly. That's what. And I'm
gonna get me a lion pelt to start

1155
01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:30.039
wearing. You know, in the
in the Hercules cartoon, the lion pelt

1156
01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:34.920
is scar from the Lion King.
It's literally Scar's skin from the lion King.

1157
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:42.399
Talk about like a I feel like
I feel like, honestly, like

1158
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:47.079
of all the different renditions of Hercules, he's definitely given me the rock.

1159
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:55.520
I forgot that that was one of
them. Oh my god, the rock

1160
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:59.800
Hercules? Man oh man, Yeah, how do you feel about that?

1161
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:03.760
If I if I had a mental
image or I had watched that, I

1162
01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:06.319
would probably feel some type of Right, it's like a book. You can't

1163
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:09.840
I can't see it. Just think
of like the rock and a toga.

1164
01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:13.159
Dude. Ye, that's pretty much
it. I really don't know whether to

1165
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:19.000
be flattered or not. I mean, it's it's something. Yeah, it's

1166
01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:23.960
take it. It was it was
stated. Yeah, yeah, thank you.

1167
01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:28.520
Yeah, we're like an hour and
a half. All right, that's

1168
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:32.039
it. Wow, this was a
fun one. I hope you guys enjoyed

1169
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:38.399
it. We are just pushing through, man like, just pushing through and

1170
01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:42.279
surviving and and practicing faith. Yeah, we appreciate you guys, sticking with

1171
01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:46.479
us and supporting us, and you
know very much. Thank you, Thank

1172
01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:53.039
you all, thank you. We
love you. Bye God, oh gys

1173
01:28:53.800 --> 01:29:00.399
Alex, you're not missing it.
Bye, guys. Spared things happened in

1174
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:14.840
the backyard bloods O house. You
see it. It was so weird coming

1175
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:23.560
closer to us, bloss straight up
like smiring on the inside of it.

1176
01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:36.239
No one knows. Man, Wow, it's come right ever, got air?

1177
01:29:36.319 --> 01:30:10.039
Got solid driver? Kick happen Natu

