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bid you welcome. Hello, Welcome to the show. I hope everyone's well
well. I've had some great feedback after the show I did with Nick Cole,
which was the previous show. If anyone missed it, you can still
download it. That was actually an extra show I did last week, and
thank you all for listening. Now this particular show, I have a young
lady who's responsible for running and organizing the Festival of the unexplained what we have
here in the UK. You've probably heard me mention it before a few shows
back. I did have Rachel Ashman on the show, who is another one
of the organizers, but on this particular occasion, my guest is Nicki Scoland,
so we should be talking a little bit about the Festival of the unexplained
for twenty twenty three, which was last year obviously, which was absolutely brilliant,
by the way, and the coming Festival of the unexplained for twenty twenty
four. But as you'll be finding out, there are some amazing guests speakers
who will be involved. So without further ado, I'd like to introduce Nicky
scold them to the show. So here we go with Nikki. Hello,
Niki, welcome to the show. Well, Idea, you look radiant.
I remember it. Don't be a positive of you. Oh, go back
to your easel. This is my show. Is not going to get a
word in edgeways anyway. After that over excited interruption, best try once again.
Hell NICKI, welcome to the show. Hi David, how are you?
I'm fine, thank you, And we were just saying off here it's
cold down here and it's cold up there, and it is luckily neither of
us have got snow yet, but that's beside the point. But anyway,
the festival will the unexplained that twenty four. We're both very much looking forward
to that. You're one of you're one of the organizers. I am indeed,
yep. And what is your role in organizing well, a bit of
everything. Really. I think my official title is oh god, I don't
even know what my official titles. It used to be sponsorship coordinator, but
that's right, I saw that. What does that actually mean? Yeah,
that's it. Were it was mainly doing like programs, sponsorship, advertising,
that kind of thing, right. Yeah, we all do a lot of
the same kind of thing. Now we tend to just split it. We
divvy up jobs. So yeah, currently I'm on with planning our day trip.
Mmm. Do you won't tell me where it is? Will you?
Absolutely not? Now. Already had this with Rachel when she came on a
show. Yeah, that's good. But it's good though, really because we
don't want to spoil it anyway, do we. So that's it. Yeah,
yeah, you can until we're off here now, Oh nice. True,
now somewhere planning the day trip and organizing the awards, which is really
exciting. It is very exciting. Yeah, because you've been the festive The
Unexplained has been nominated for a GPN award. It has, yeah, which
is very exciting. We didn't expect that. No, I did expect mine
either, and I think we both ended up in the finals as well.
I would be very surprised if it's not in the top three, because it's
an amazing event, you know, But I think we'll have to check that
one out. But I mean, even just to be nominated is fantastic anyways.
I mean, you're a winner. You're a winner for people to just
nominate you in the first place. Before we talk about the Festival the un
Explained twenty twenty four, let's talk about the twenty twenty three event, which
was in September. What September last year? It wasn't It wasn't Thattle ago,
but it seems a lot it does. It's going to creep upon us
again. I know, they does you sort of you spend a long time
waiting for it, all of a sudden it's on top of you. Then
it's gone. Yeah. But I mean, we've got the great Dave Shrader
coming say we you've got you. You've got the great Dave Shrader coming back
again. We need the Festival family, David. Yes, I feel as
if I am part of the family now. We are regulars. Now we've
been to two and this will be the third one. I think we'll probably
come to all of them. Hopefully I'm still around. It's your hat trick
year, isn't it? It is the hat trick year. But what a
fantastic event it was last year to have Dave Shrader from the Wholes of Philes
and the other show was The Devil's Perch Show, which was amazing also but
also the amazing drawer for me. Also apart from Dave is Cyndy Kaiser on
with Shame. That's fantastic. I mean, how did you managed to pull
those I don't think any of us breathed until we had those contracts back from
the three of them that we're super excited. This is nothing that's been done
in this country. Never ever done a para con together in this country,
and I think we've only done one together in the US and that was a
long time ago. So it really is a bit of a reason we're so
excited about it. Yeah, I'm excited about it because I think when we
go to the Guyers of Justice or the Holes of Justice, sort of museum
of whatever it's called because exchanging name as for us, I think there's going
to be kind of like a house of foils in there that we could be
doing an investigation the same as what you saw on there. We are.
Yeah, not quite sure how it's going to pan out on the night yet.
That'll probably be another one of my jobs is planning the event. But
yeah, we've got all our or at least most of our guest speakers will
be coming to the ghost hunt as well, so I'll I lovely guess still
have the opportunity to investigate with some really really amazing paranormal personalities. So we're
super excited to get that event underway. It's going to be really something else,
I think. Yeah, I mean it's a fantastic venue. Anyway,
Well this let me get this right. It's a notting Galers of Justice.
I believe it is. Yeah, Galleries of Justice. That's what we want.
In case anyone's listening to me and being confused or was he talking about
that's where it is. It's Nottingham the Galleries of Justice. I think that's
what it's called now. Still, yeah, I'm sure it's such a fabulous
venue. Have you ever been I've been there twice, Yeah, twice,
I've been there before. It's a fantastic place to go. It's pretty creepy
in a lot of places. You can actually get lost in it because it
is quite a big place. You walk down down these corridors and things.
Where did I come from before? Anyway? But also right down in the
bottom there's there's like a cave area, isn't here which is below where the
celles are? Yeah, I think it's the old the old debtors prison.
But yeah, you walk out of this magnificent oak paneled, huge courtroom and
then suddenly you're in a cave and cave under the ground. Is it used
to go to the other isn't it? Yeah? And also and in the
big you have the large yard and courtyard and that they've got they've got the
gallows and all that sort of. And I think they've got another grows gallows
that comes out of the wall. Apparently was it Penny that said that that
was actually where they used to hang people from? Sure, I'm not sure.
It might have been Rachel. Actually I can't remember. Somebody said they
didn't actually use the gallows as such. There was a there was a beam
that came out from the wall somewhere. Maybe maybe I've got that wrong.
I could be wrong. Yeah, the gallows that they've got there at the
moment, I don't think they're real. They're kind of just a prop that
they are where it would have been. But yeah, I went there with
Rachel. We had such a good night. Mm hmmm. They do have
quite a lot of paranormal investigations there. I think a lot of teams try
to get in there, don't they they do? Yeah, are you trying
to get the caves of Duttingham as well? They're not in caves? Is
that they're called? Yeah, we I think letting you in on a little
secret. I'm not sure if that's confirmed. Yeah, we I think letting
you in on a little secret. I'm not sure if that's confirmed. No,
it's you can hire it as part of the package. I'm not sure
if we have. I think it will depend on how many people we end
up taking, because the uptake for the ghost has been huge. If it's
not already sold out, it's incredibly close. So you know, depending on
numbers that we take, we're going to have to expand the venue, so
we might end up into different places. They are very I see, I
understand. No, no, I know when the original plane, or so
it is said about the not in the Halls of Galries of Justice, planes
can change. When I'd like to go to the Caves because I've not been
there. I have not either. No, it'll be a new one for
me. Well you all go well to get everybody else take a little walk.
No, but I mean apart from Dave and Cindy and Shane Pittman coming,
Daniel class is coming. He couldn't make it for last year unfortunately.
That's right. Yeah, it's definitely coming back this year. So he was
very upset about that. And he's I mean the free well that doesn't know.
He's got the Hinsdale House which is apparently haunted, which he owns I
believe. Yeah, so he's got a lot of stories about that. He's
written a book about it. Yeah, give a really interesting talk. Actually
I sat in on his talk at the first festival at Bosworth and yeah,
it was really good to hear all about the Hinsdale House people. Yeah.
I want to get his book this time. I didn't get it last time,
so I definitely got the book this time. Oh, well there is
that. I suppose I could get one before that to make sure you.
Yeah, then we've got Danny moss Is coming back. Daniels indeed Haunt Hotel.
Yeah, that was great meeting Danny actually as well, because it's quite
a character. It's right down to be, right down to most of the
people are following this business if you recall it, the business. Apparently it's
just like everybody else, aren't they, And everyone's really interested in what everyone
does. And I thought Denny's a really large chat. Actually, yeah,
it was. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, So he's coming
back this year and obviously they expanded the now my Haunted h Q. They've
got a place over in Pennsylvania. If I'm not wrong, he's teamed up
with Darryl. Darryl Marsden. I didn't know. I actually explained, I
didn't know they expect was that problem? Was that brought on through the meeting
or the festival? Yeah, I didn't know each other beforehand, and they're
saw an opportunity. And that's amazing, isn't it. It's really amazing.
Yeah. Well, you say a lot of the family thing that people become
friends and they are friends follower falls. That's brilliant. Yeah, you can't
get rid of us. Hopefully we're seeing some TV shows, but they will
there together with a bit of luck, with a bit of luck, that
would be really good. Yeah. Yeah, Now another amazing guests you made
to get on board is run Jacovit and Lord. This is a bit of
a mouthful, those two names, but they look fantastic with the research they've
been doing. Yeah, the static on project. He's got the special equipment
that he seems to be able to Yeah, a lot better top of equipment
for getting voices. E VP is basically, isn't it. Yeah. I
mean I don't know the exact science. I think it's something to do with
the fact that they've removed all kind of radio interference and things like that,
but it looks incredible. We so look at our and they're a real first
for convention over here. I don't think everybody's seen anything like that, So
it'll be it'll be awesome for them to kind of come over and tell us
about what it is they do. And we're hoping that they might bring some
equipment to the I'm hoping that you actually want to see it in action,
don't you. It depends on how Hippie is and how customs and all that
canpla measuring it all through that, But I should imagine that I children mentioned
it's bigger than a suitcase, really, but I mean, what else do
they need they bring a suitcase? Well, yeah, yeah, that's all
I need. Don't forget your close don't worry about But anyway, Rod,
the Lord is if you're listening, looking forward to meeting you after that.
We've got now this is this is one that so we're all talking to Rachel.
She didn't know either. We've got Dan and Adam of the Ghost Trip
investigations. Now do you know now you only know with Dan and Adam you
do not know any surnames. Oh it's Dan Sprague and Adam Olkley. So
we've got some So that's called spy. Yeah, they don't like you know,
Prince because it will talk. When Rachel on the show, she didn't
seem to know what the surnames were. Yeah, yeah, okay, Sprague
and Oakley Shell make it m and it is doctor Kate Sheryl coming as well.
Still, yes, she's definitely still coming. We've got a bit of
an all star lineup. This fantastic. Yeah yeah, that's apart from you.
All your goals are run. It was your stars right anyway, you
know you say all the right things, David, Yeah, I'll mean them
too. A lost but not least this Penny with this Morgan who actually she's
involved in sorting the days out as well, isn't she She is, she's
our resident historian. Yeah, she's brilliant. She is fabulous. So yeah,
we can't have a festival without Penny this time. So you know what,
she's on board. She's she's part of the team. She's a resident
Starian and the stuff she does is incredible. She's she's very funny and as
well funny was The funny thing is she doesn't live that far for me,
but I never see her over here, I believe it or not. Rachel
probably probably, I'll give you an address, but I know Rachel came to
visit her by a little a short time ago. I've got Did they go
to the secret bunker? I think COVID and secret, Yes, nuclear bunker,
which I've been to. I'm a little bit jealous. I've never been.
It's amazing. I'll tell you what, if you ever get the chance
to come over this way, I'll take you because you know Jial can cover
as well, because she's not been to it either. To me, yeah,
I've been here about well. The last time I've been it was about
five years ago, and I took Colonel Charles Halt there. He was involved
in the relationship of urophone incident in Okay, but he's a friend of mine.
Well, I took him there. He was quite amazed with it,
know the size of it and the history of it and everything. It's got
quite a few paranormal instances as well. There. Yeah, I like to
go. Yeah, so if your fancy coming sometimes, let me know and
we will go. But let's make it happen. Yeah, And now Dave's
coming, and he's coming with Neil story because they're involved with what's that travel
company, Maria Maria Schmitz travel company? Because Dave's coming over with the and
Neil story is part of that. So Neil's not actually going to be speaking,
is he? I suppose. I'm sure you won't. Better keep Neil
quite all the time, but I'm sure Neil will end up speaking. It
will be officially, certainly at the meal or something. Anyway. He's such
a great storyteller and such a great I love. He's fantastic. Neil and
his mustache will I'm sure I draw a crowd unless he shopped it off for
him. But no, nope, not, It's going to be fantastic.
With that that lineup of people, it's just a it's a it's really a
mega cast, isn't it. You know, it's brilliant. Is it's a
bit terrifying? Yeah? Well really, I know I was talking obviously previously
about the twenty twenty three and I've kind of got on to twenty small one.
You know, one mistake really, because I think it's the excitement of
those names. Because when I started off with Dave Schreder said about Cindy,
it kind of left off at that. On the whole what was your best
part of the twenty twenty three event? You think, oh, wow,
God, that's like asking me to pick which child's my face? No,
I know, I know it's very difficult to pick it because every day was
fantastic. It was, you know, I think it's although we have a
great time with the you know, the speakers do these amazing talks and we
have a great time at the parties, I just think it was just hanging
out with all the guests and all the speakers and just chatting and just getting
to know each other and just having a really good time. And it's you
know, it's it's what it's all about, you know, we all network
and we all make contacts for whatever paranormal thing we're involved in. But I
don't think you can top making these friendships with people that you might never have
met otherwise. And that absolutely me. Yeah, like you say, has
become a family. We've met so many friends that yeah, we've got we've
got there and we can call them friends. I call you are free.
We've got Rachel and ca. Yeah, we're all sort of sort of there
together. So all you goals. I think we can thank you for that
because you have brought people together, and you we make American friends as well,
because there's an American group coming over again with Maria Schmitz. We've made
friends from the first one. I mean we had the race Chasers at the
first Yeah, and since then they've been coming over twice a year to do
events for us at lost Ale Paranormal so they've remained really good friends of ours.
We've now got a huge group of friends over in America from that,
and you know, it's all doors that have been opened by the festival,
So it's it's not something you can top. Really, It's been fantastic talk
to you about your lost souls. A paranormal investigations as we go along.
But so that was the first time we actually met the Rage Chasers, was
it. Ye? Yeah, we've never even spoke to them before. I
wasn't friends with them on social media and nothing. That's the first time we
ever met them. That's quite interesting. I actually thought you've already known them
because I know that I know they're coming back a few times. It is
very soon, isn't it. March? Yeah, we can't go them.
I mean, actually know we're known as the Tennessee Raised Chasers, but I
think they've they've called us. I think there still is the Tennessee Chasers and
the Rave Chasers where they've kind of gone two separate ways. Yeah they have,
Yeah, well story Yeah, Well, I don't think there's not been
a bad blood between No. I think they just sort of do their own
thing, don't they. Because I think maybe, you know, it could
be that two of them can actually travel board than the others where they're sort
of tied to their families and stuff like that. Different situations. People moved
on. There's there's no bad blood, you know, it's it's just what
it is now and it's work. Yeah. Yeah, I hope to see
them again sometime. Anyway, we're talking about your Lost Soul's Paranormal Investigations Group.
Yes, So how did that coming to league with the Festival? The
unexplained, Well, it's it's a completely separate entity. Really, Me,
Rachel and Jemma started it up. I think it came about kind of as
we're coming out of lockdown and we've moved away from the teams that we we
used to work with that we used to team lead far and and things like
that. Again, nobody fell out with anybody. It was just kind of
natural progression for us. You know, we're still really good friends with with
people that we've worked with before, and yeah, we just he came about
us away really to be able to investigate places that we fancy doing and take
our friends along with us, and it's it's just grown from there. And
Rachel mainly well at first became friends with Karen, who at the time was
running Keep Paranormal, so we'd team up with Keep, and then Karen became
a friend of ours, and from there that's when we became involved with the
festival. Really. Yeah, things I'm sort of into time, don't they,
I think, especially when people seem to gel together you know, they
sort of want to work together, don't they. That's probably what's with your
group of goals there that mom, we called your goals, do you because
yeah, and you know we've become heavily involved with the festival the unexplained.
Now, Karen does come along and do our Lost Soul events with us,
especially the bigger ones. She's often a guest medium for us, so it's
it's all working out quite nice. I was intended to get Carried and Rachel
On together actually onto the show, but Karen wasn't available at the time,
so I had to do just a show with Rachel. She'd never get away.
Yeah, it could be almost expected that, but I'm hoping. I'm
hoping I don't get Carried on again at some point. And I've also I've
got Gemma lined up as well, but she's not been able to do it
lately. I think she was not very well. But we're sortady out eventually.
Now on your investigations, have you had some really good, good results
from any of your investigations? Gosh, I mean we've done so many,
and there's always something to a greater or less degree. You know, it's
it's not the stuff that you see on TV. You and me both know
this. You know you might you might sit for hours in a dark room.
Oh, no thing, that that's the best thing. I mean,
I'm not into all your flashing lights and gadgets. I like to sit on
in the dark and listen to what I can hear. But yeah, we've
one that sticks out is And we didn't think we got it until we're going
all through all the evidence afterwards, and we're at the Fleece in Ellend,
this really really old little pub, and we're upstairs on like a mezzanine levels
a surprise. Yeah, well, you know, we have a reputation to
maintain. And there was just me and Rachel and Jema sat up on this
mezzanine with the big eaves up into the roof, and we've put a laser
grid on and we weren't really paying much attention. We're snapping pictures in the
dark and chatting between ourselves. There's nobody else up there with us. It
was a super small group that we've got. When we're going back through the
photos afterwards, there's a picture. I'll send it to you afterwards if you
want to see it, if I can find it, and perfectly picked out
black shadow, like blocking out the laser grid. And I know that's the
purpose of a laser grid, that's what we use them for, but you
never see it to that extent. But that's probably been one of the best
things we've captured. Rachel gets a lot of e vps using she uses iPhone
Live Live photos. Yeah, she's found that that's a really great way of
picking up e VP She's had some Yeah. I mean mine doesn't do that
because I'm not fancy enough to have an iPhone, But yeah, she's picked
up some really great stuff, particularly god, what's it called Draclow before that
fabulous place closed down. Yeah, there's another place. I've never got some
quisit, but they've closed it all down completely now they well, it's used
for spying, a storage or something, but yeah, it's completely close to
paranormal groups, which is a massive It was the most ridiculous, confusing place
that I've ever been to in my life, and I don't think I've ever
been as cold closed down for a reason. No, I don't think there's
a particular reason behind it. I'm not sure if it was sold on or
you know, somebody was paying them better money. To be able to use
it. But yeah, it's been like that for a few years now.
That's a huge shame. It's a really amazing one that we've lost from the
list if you care. Yeah, I ready didn't have closed. That's a
that's a shame. Well something else has a cross. Yeah, mark that
one for now. So, I mean, going back into your younger years,
did you have any paranormal experiences? So what brought you into the paranormal
one in the first place. I mean, I think now I'm sorry for
being rude. I didn't mean you're younger, because you're young. Now what
I mean is your I'm I'm knocking forty now what I mean. So,
I'm pretty sure. I mean I had the usual as a teenager who absolutely
fascinated me anything spooky. I used to watch this Strange but True and things
like that if you remember that on the on the BBC. Fascinated by it.
But it wasn't really a thing, you know, in the mid nineties
when I was a teenager. It went from I mean this is on my
bio on the website. I think that it started with drawing our own homemade
weigiboards and doing those with equally weird friends and scaring ourselves to death. And
then it was something that kind of went by the wayside a little bit as
as I got older, because it wasn't a thing up until probably the last
fifteen years. It was really quite niche and I mean, we know,
I know, we're all a little bit weird now, but it's much more
mainstream. So yeah, it came about, and I've got Rachel to BlimE,
thank whatever you want to call it for this, but well, she's
a bit weird anyway. She's how she's done. Look, you look in
the dictionary and you look for weird and you find Rachel. But you know,
we love I wouldn't swear. It's when I met Rachel. Our girls,
our eldest children of the same age. They've been best friends since they
were two, and they've met at the local preschool. And I met Rachel
waiting for the kids waiting at pickup time at pre school, and it was
just the normal, you know, polite mum's chit chat to start with.
And then I think the weird creeping out a little bit. You know,
It's like I think I found a kindred spirit here. So it was when
me and Rachel became friends and she's not been able to shake me off since
that. We realized that we both had this interest in, this fascination with
the paranormal, and that's when we then started going to the odd events as
guests, and then it just snowballed from there and here we are. Yeah.
Now, I'll tell you what it is funnier. You do get drawn
to certain people, don't you. And I've found it myself. You do.
You do find the I don't know if it's a megritism, but you
do just draw to somebody and you seem to know that they're interested in the
same thing as you are. I've experienced quite a few times. Yeah,
I definitely I agree with that, which is probably why we have such a
great time at the festival, because we're all like that anyway. So we're
room full of people, all with equal amounts of weird coming together. It's
just a beautiful it is. Yeah, it is. You're not a witch
or anything or you just because some people think of themselves as witches or or
are you? Are you clear boy at all? I am about a psychic
because you're average breeze block David. No, well, not at all,
I'm sure you're more than that because we've all got a little bit of it
in us. I mean, I don't think I'm psychic either, but there
are times when you sort of pick up on things. You know, we've
all got a bit of it in us. I agree with that. Yeah,
but no I'm not. I don't claim to be sensitive in any way.
I'll just find it because like, yeah, yeah, well so i'd
love to be. I mean, you can, you can develop it,
obviously, but you can. I mean my friend, I don't know if
you do. You know Joline Jackson Blockwood, No, I don't think so.
He's a fabulous medium. It's a really close friend of mine. She
does a lot offense with us, and she keeps telling me should develop it.
There's something and never have. Well, I mean, I'll tell you
what I've been told by a couple of mediums. I've got a pair of
healis. I've never used it or anything like that. So we're where all
would go with that. I don't know, but my hands are always very
warm. I don't know. I don't know if that's anything to do with
it. But on occasion, when do you alls have a headache or store
a shoulder ache or something like that. She said, I'll put your hands
on my shoulder, and it seems to take it away. So I don't
know. I don't know if it's just sort of will power or whatever.
But we've had some strange events with that. But as I said, I've
never tried to develop it, and I could never see I was a heler.
You know, you don't think of yourself that way. When someone tells
you something, you think, oh, no, no, why would I?
Why would I? Why would I have that gift? You know?
You think, actually, yeah, But I mean I kind of wish that
maybe years ago, when I was a bit younger, maybe I might have
perhaps I should have developed it or something. I don't know, but I
suppose it's not too late. But you know how I would feel about it.
I would feel that me going around telling everyone I'm a haler and saying
I can I can make you feel better. It makes me think, well,
yeah, you're something special that, don't you. You know that's the
way I look at it. Do you think that I find it hard to
say that I can do this? You know? Yeah? Yeah, because
you feel like people thinking really yeah, I mean, because I'm quite I
like to sort of would always like to stay under the pairapet really in my
sort of in the past when I was younger. I was very, very
shy when I was younger, and probably that's probably the reason why I would
never sort of put myself out there to do something like that. Yeah,
even coming down to doing these radio shows. I mean, if you'd have
asked me, like, what was it there for, if you have asked
me for four and a half years ago, would all be doing radio shows?
I would have said no, I would never do that there. But
yeah, and now we're coming out to almost two hundred and so wow,
there you go. Yeah, I mean I'm very I'm like you, I
melt into the background. When you've kind of got a personality like like Rachel
that you work with a lot, it's very easy to step away and let
somebody else do the people because she's incredibly good at that. Yeah, but
I'm still a terrible public speaker. Don't ask me to introduce anything or you
know, if I do anything at the festival, I'm shaking like a leaf.
But you know, radio shows, we're getting there. We do that.
Well, we to you by this show, you do it right.
I mean you're probably doing better annoy him. We know Karen some rather so.
I mean I don't really I haven't really experienced Karen some mediumship really,
I mean that is she very good? To be honest, I have not
really. She always tends to be on a team with Rachel. But you
know, we get really good feedback. Oh yeah, i'd assume so,
but no, she she tends to go on Rachel's team. I tend to
take Joe line. Gary Fields does a lot for us. Gary Fields,
He's another name I need to get on this show. I thought that day
a few times. I do need to get him on here, because I
know he's very good in Touch is our very favorite scale. He's on my
friend's list anyway. I just need to sort of get him on the list.
Really. Yeah, he's on the list somewhere, but I think that
list keeps on getting shuffled about all the time. Gary will talk all night.
Well good, I could just see him keep quietly. You can be
brilliant. I've got a little bit to say where you said about you shrink
into the background. You could never shrink into the background with that bright red
hair. They'll sell you that there in lies the issue. Yeah, you
cannot lose me in a crowd. I mean, I've got to say,
we know we're on the last we're on the last event, the twenty twenty
three event. When you sat at our table, I actually didn't quite realize
that you were one of the organizers at the time. Of course, I've
looked differently now and that's probably part of your shrinking into the background that came
into that. It was only sort of after that I thought, oh so
Nicky was part of one of the organizers as well, so that oh yeah,
she just likes to sneak around in the background. But it was very
striking the way you were in your I mean, obviously I have to apologize
because Jill and I turned up in jeans and sweatshirts because we we we did.
We actually didn't think that everyone was going to dress up, to be
honest, I think there was a bit of There was a variety. Some
people just dress up, some people didn't. Some people went all out,
and it was fine, it's whatever you comfortable and whatever you're going to have
a good time in. Yeah. No, when you know, sometimes when
you go to these things and they said all were dressed up, get all
and then you go and if you're you're near ones doing it. You know.
We went we went to a Shorlock home. I told Rachel this actually
Mozle tore you as well. So if anyone out there these people, excuse
me. We went to a Shellock Homes thing in London. So I about
to go on the Tube just as Sholock Homes and Jill had. Jill had
luck if Audying closed on and all that as well. So we get to
this svenue and everyone's it's like a restaurant thing with the Shorelock homes. We
were the only ones dressed up. Oh no. But as we walked in
whatever, I was just not dressed in T shirts and jeans. And there's
one or two people with a hetle or something. But that was a I
felt such an idiot after we've traveled the way on the Tube and everything,
you know, so I kind of think that people just don't bother. So
but I'm going to warn you this time. Yeah, this time for the
twenty twenty four, we're going all out excellent news. We'll say no more.
I've got a suit, din a suit and bow tied a lot.
I can't wait. You're gonna like James Bond. Yeah, well that's all.
I'll have to shape your beard off him bearded bond. Now I'm really
looking forward to it. No, we're going We're going to be all because
we kind of sneaked out a little bit quite early, because we felt a
bit embarrassed because everyone was dressed up to the nines and everything and we were
just sitting here like a couple, a couple of scuff bags. And you
Strada turned up in jeans. Did that's true? Yeah, that's true.
I mean when I was talking to the Ratiol said, well, we turned
up as paranormal investigators, so we did. Yeah, that's a no.
We're just say we we won't disappoint this time. Hopefully it will be amazing.
I can't wait to see everybody's outfits again. Yeah, you look brilliant.
Actually, on the on the I voted you was the best dress.
Actually, I'm not supposed to tell you. I do know because I do
the votes. I know. This is why I know, This is why
I knew you. I know you've already seen it. I can't chop it
out now, it's too late. I've said it there, Rachel. Rachel
was most put out, but I did tell her, oh right, I
think it was all listed somewhere. I think I won't say, well,
I won't say, I won't say we're Neil Story was listed then, I
think he was on all of them. Money Neil Story is headed for a
landslide. And see as is mister massilious. Anyway, it's get better be
more serious on your lost souls parble investigations. What what locations have you been
to? And you know, did you go far awide all over the country
or or sort of fairly local? We do get about a little bit,
to be honest. A lot of our smaller events we're still local. We've
you know, we do all the Leeds venues. Most recently we've had Kirkstall
Abbey and Abbey House, which is always a good one. We like picking
out little venues that aren't overdone. We like finding the hidden gems and kind
of you know, doing something new rather than the places that completely overdone.
I mean, don't get me wrong, We've we've done your biggest like Newsham
Park, drake Clow, things like that. But yeah, we are hours
on the lookout for these these little unknown venues and yeah we've we've had a
good time at them. Mm hmm. We do get back. So apart
from your own personal experiences, have you known of any anything that's really been
quite spectacular? It near those events personally are what people have said? From
what people have said, Yeah, anything that comes to mind. I know
it's probably a difficult question to its of just to come up. I think
the thing is, I know what you're talking about when when you said about
it, it's not like you see it on the television because obviously when you
see these shows on the Telly, they're probably filmed over a period of maybe
six or seven hours. Yeah, and what you're seeing on ye, what
you're seeing on the TV, you're seeing it cut down. It's about thirty
or forty minutes of things going on. So it gives the impression there's all
sorts of things going on all through that time, which is just the case.
It's not. Now I'm sure you've been to places where you're just sitting
around. Do you start getting bored towards the endything of it? Might as
well go home. I mean, I get to feel about one am,
and I'm profess that is about the time you start lodged off to go home,
and then all of a sudden, the something will happened, wasn't it,
and the sort of tweaks your interest. Yeah, I mean we we've
recently done we've been a couple of times to a place called Workley Top Forge.
It's near Sheffield and it's a very old forge. It's only really small.
It's kind of a living history museum, so it's really interesting to look
around. But one particular experience we had there, I was with Rachel,
was sat in this little upstairs room and there was this huge heavy metal door
downstairs. It was it was such a big heavy door because it was what
separated the foundry from the living quarters, so it was going to be a
huge, big lump of metal and we were so upstairs and it just crashed
shut. There was no wind, It wasn't the kind of door that could
be blown by a little breeze. It was a huge, big chunk of
metal. Nobody was around it, and yeah, it just slammed shot on
its own. I think Rachel nearly shot through the ceiling, shot out for
chairs downstairs. But that that was something that's really it's always when you can't
explain them, you know that look, maybe somebody playing playing a joke or
something because you get yeah, yeah you do, and you've got to look
at what it could be first. So we're downstairs absolutely shoving in and now
we couldn't explain it, So that that was something quite good that we that
we had quite recently. I think it was only last year that we were
there. That's quite interesting. I mean also obviously on those sort of events,
you wonder that you ask if it's been if it's happened before. That's
that particular type of event as well, don't you. Yeah, but yeah,
they've not had too many events there. A couple of other teams have
picked up on it recently, which is what happens in the paranormal, which
is great. You know, we're getting getting more venues out there. But
I think until it was another team we went with. We went with Justin
at United in Paranormal and it had never even heard of it before it had
been booked there. So it's it's always good to find these these little hidden
gems. And I think we'll probably go back. M hmm. Like you
said, you don't particularly like equipment and things, but is any equipment used
with your with your team for instance, Yeah, I mean we've we've got
the whole arsenal. Really, you know, when when you've got public investigations,
you need to have something for everybody, because some people like gadgets,
some people don't, and you know, it's nice to have everything. And
we do have a whole armory of kit between us. A lot of it
stays in the bassroom. You know, you always get your bits you pull
out and you put in your pockets because it's easy to carry. Yeah,
but yeah, Rachel uses the infrared camera quite a lot, which which we
like. We've got the standard rempords you just put out and forget about them.
You know, you can, you can dop them out around the room,
forget about them while you're do anything. If they go off, you
know, great, let's let's look into it. What could it be?
And if they don't, just pack them up again at the end of the
night. So we don't tend to have these really, we don't have big
ridiculous pieces of kit that you've got to build when you get there, because
I can guarantee if we bought something like that, it would never get built
and it would stay in the car. Yeah, yeah, I actually I'd
love to get on these days. I know you've got a couple of Facebook
you were mentioned in. But yeah, we've had some built for us.
A very clever guy is a British guy who lives in Atlanta, and he
has built some LSP wraith pods for us for when well they're called wraith pods
because the rath Chasers sell them, so for our wrath Chasers event. But
they are just rempods. So I have bagged one of those for my kids.
Yeah, must have been. He made six to sell and I have
advertised five. One one it's mine. I'll tell you what a cop of
with its. I've been too, and as you one particular special event I
went to as a Scottish team. They had some torches that were going on
and off and nobody was touching them. But the torches were actually answering to
questions yes and no everything, and that was actually fascinating. That was probably
one of the most fascinating things I've seen. You know, a lot the
small torches and obviously you think, well, nobody can be doing that because
nobody's touching it, you know, mind blowing eye thought. As long as
the batteries are full, you kind of think, well, how yeah,
I mean, you need to switch up on and off as right, So
it's quite an amazing thing. And the fact that they were answering yeses and
those two or flash into or twice or whatever. Hm, that's quite amazing.
Yeah, that's really good. What do you think of the phone on
You get some telephone apps? What do you think if any of those are
any good? No, in your opinion. In my opinion, I've got
them. You know, I've tried them. I don't think we've We've not
had to personally. You know, other people might disagree with that. People
might have had really amazing results with them. We've never had any results.
You know, we've installed them and tried them out, because why would you
not. You know, if you've got this amazing bit of kick carry around
in your pocket, you wouldn't want to miss out on that. We've not
had any results with it. We just tend to it's you know, it's
your random word generators. We've just had nonsense. Really, nothing really jumps
out and smacks you in the face as being oh my god, that's really
relevant. I got one installed on my more piece on my laptop. It's
called after Life. It's supposed to be very good. I've got that I've
got it on a little tablet. It's one of the ones that you know,
when we're doing public events. People like things like that, you know.
So if on this little windows tablet that we carry around, and you
know, people can take that off and see if they're get any results with
it, you know it, maybe it might yield better results for somebody than
it does for me. Always worth a try. Well, the thing is
ill ever actually showed you very much yet, so also your opinion of it
if you know about it. It looks pretty good. It does look the
part. It does look the part. One good thing about it is it
doesn't just spew out words constantly like some of them do when you're just thinking
to yourself, please shush. So it's not constantly going off. So that
is one good thing about it. So you know, maybe it's easier to
narrow down if things are relevant, but it's definitely worth try. Yeah,
yeah, definitely. Let's get into your beliefs there. Obviously you do believe
your life after death, Well, I think there's something do I have a
firm belief in absolutely what it is? No right, so when you go
so when you go into a paranormal investigation, you go in as a skeptic.
Again, No, it's really hard to define how I would which box
I would put myself in. I'm not an out and out Oh my god,
everything is paranormal. Oh yeah, No, definitely not. But I'm
not a skeptic. I'm very much on the fence. I want to I
want things to be proven to me. I want to see things, I
want to experience things. But sometimes I'll be sitting there and just think to
myself, you know, and past the point of being scared. I can't
remember the last time I was scared on an investigation, because you want things
to happen. Maybe full believer, you know, I'm a believer that sits
on the on the side of healthy skepticism. That's potentially with that. Yeah,
that's what. Yeah, so you do actually believe, because I mean,
sometimes you can be parable investigators. I just want to proo per everything's
just to say that it is, that it's true, that's it. Yeah.
No, I think we have a healthy balance. You know. We're
not the kind that here, you know, a radiator pipe not because it's
down and immediately like, oh my god, that must be paranormal. We're
immediately on the fence of you know, on the side of well, where
the pipes, Where could it come from? Oh, yeah, you've got
you've got to look at drafts or whatever. You Yeah, but we're also
not the kind that will write everything off, because why would we be doing
this if we were sure? Absolutely, you know, we definitely I mean
I speak for all of us, particularly me. I know, I definitely
believe there's something. I don't think I think would be quite n reminded to
believe that that's it if when you got on your your worm food, because
energy is you know, it continues. Your physical body might stop to stop
existing, but what happens to the energy. So you know, I definitely
think there's there's something yet to make my mind up firmly it is. But
that's why we do this. Yeah, so you're so, you're I see,
I'm a little bit over that fence now because I do actually, you
know, with some of the experiences and some of the people who have known
and everything, you do really believe in it all and so seen enough to
convince me that there's her life after death. If you like, I'll tell
you a little story now about I'm sorry about Jill. She she actually before
I knew it years ago, about twenty odd years ago, she had a
she actually died three times all the way to the hospital when she had a
serious ESPA attack. That's Jill talking about Jills, my wife. Because yeah,
yeah, I went for our audiences out there, so this was before
I knew it. But and even the ambulance drivers came into the hospital to
see if she was all right. But afterwards, because because she'd actually I
told her that she'd actually died three times in the mbulance. And what had
happened was she she said that she actually saw it, went to the lot,
she saw this light, and she was actually given the choice as to
whether to come back on not or go or carry on into the light.
Oh wow. So I say, that's Jill's little story. You can talk
to her about it this here ago. But yeah, I've had experiences that
I can't explain, experiences that I would describe as paranormal experiences, you know,
which is why i'd never call myself skeptic. I'm I'm absolutely not a
skeptic. I just yeah, I want it to be proved to me.
Yeah, sure, I keep going out for the next bit of evidence.
That's why I mean, when you do your events, do you do things
a table tipping and stuff like that. It depends on the guests. Yes,
sometimes you know, if you're doing certain experiments and nothing's working, you
know that's that's paranormal investigation. We know that. I think sometimes when you
get people that are barely new to it, maybe trying it out, there's
a bit of a new experience. I think they might expect more. And
you know this, this is where you've got to be super careful because we
would never ever take any activity like certain other people might do. So you
switch it up, you switch up what you're doing. You know, you've
maybe stopped the EVP session and you moved to a bit of table tip in
you know Victorian parlor tricks to flashing lights. So yeah, we go from
one extreme to the other. Really, we have the weige aboards, the
automatic writing plant, do the table tip in right to the high text stuff.
So we do like to mix it up result with table tipping. Actually
it was at god Well York Dungeon, and I've never seen a table move
like it. It was. It was up on one leg and yeah,
that experience that as it's quite amazing. Mm hmmm and everyone was taking her
hand off the table. The heads off the table at that time proved that
it's not you doing it. Sort of see we're not took my hands off,
and I was sort of I was looking under the table and see if
you and then I sort of touched the table and I was pressing down on
it, and it felt like it was all a spring, you know,
as if something was underneath you it pushing it outwoods. It is really bizarre.
I mean, you say that the room where we had the really it's
my one and only time that we've had that kind of result from table tip
in. But the room we were in. We walked into the room and
because everything's wired up and rigged to special effects and things places like the York
Dungeon, and we walked in and that the floor felt like it was moving.
It was it felt like if you've ever been to Eden Camp in the
World War Two museum to have moving floors in some of the hooks to emulate
air raids or whatever. And it felt like one of those floors that might
be on a motor that might move just just how it felt under your feet.
And anyway, it turns out it wasn't it was a stone floor,
so I don't know what it was that I could feel under my feet,
but that just happened to be the room where we had the table tip in
experience, and you hadn't been drinking that not either accusations. Well, these
photos will be glass. I tell me about what do you think about those
its? I mean, we've all done it when we were younger. And
yeah, and I always call myself a blocker. You know, I'm more
than willing to have a go on a wigea board. I'm not afraid of
them. But every time I touch them, nothing happens. Yeah, very
very very rarely if I have my hand on a wige board will anything happen.
So I tend to be more of an observer because you know, who
wants to sit there and nothing happened? Not a clue, because you know
it's it's if it was somebody potentially who was afraid of it. You know,
you can maybe say, well is it are you giving out that you
don't want anything to happen? But I absolutely want something to happen. But
as soon as I touch it, that thing will not move. Interesting,
Yeah, it's really bizarre. It's a bit irritating. Yeah, I mean,
if you have ever had any readings from the psychic have a lot Karen
prinstance, maybe not from Karen, but I haven't. No, No,
I've never never had a formal reading. Obviously. I'm friends with with psychics
who don't read for me because they're my friends, and I would never ask
them to give me the odd odd bit, you know, if something jumps
into the head, But I would never ask them to read for me.
But no, I've never had a reading. Weirdly enough, doing as long
as I have. Yeah, I just wonder if your head, because I
mean, you would know quite a few people. And absolutely we've had some
quite amazing readings to children or one or two of them. And I go
to it here because I've been sing it quite a few times. But we've
had some really interesting readings that have been quite true. Actually. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I love I love hearing about you know, things that
especially about especially when it's somebody you don't know at all and they've got no
way of knowing anything about you, and I come out with names of your
family and stuff like if it will and where have you got that from?
Yeah? Where have you got that from? And they're not sort of not
common names lot John or David or whatever, you know. But so,
yeah, that's happened a few times with Julian myself. Yeah, I should
do really, I should probably you know, quite quite enjoy having a reading
and see what came out. But it's not something I've ever done. Yeah,
it's it's just something that's I think it's interesting to do it one or
once or twice. Yeah, definitely. I think it's a good test for
it to see how good a medium is as well sometimes you know, yeah,
without them sort of trying to get stuff out of you. Definitely.
I mean, you know, we'll talk about some forth with death and stuff.
I mean, do you believe in reincarnation for instance? You know what?
Yeah, I think I do. Yeah. Yeah. One of my
favorite things is these you know, these stories about creepy kids that remember the
past lives. Yeah, that's fascinating. Yeah, how could a kid come
out with that kind of stuff? You know? That fascinates me And that
you know that the kids talking about these memories that weren't in their lifetime,
that is far more credible to me than kind of listening to an adult where
you could say it's you know is it the power suggestion? Is it?
Is it a memory that maybe the mind's created over the years. It's something
that seen on Telly as a child, and b how convinced them it's their
memory. But these are kids, you know, saying really accurate stuff,
and that really does fascinate me. I love those stories. You'll get a
certain scientist, or it's something to do with memories in their genes or whatever.
But I mean, you wouldn't come out with an ancient and language,
would you, which which just happened? Yeah? Really accurate details about places
and names and stories and things that happened. Yeah, I don't. I
don't know how i'd explain that, which is probably why I find it so
fascinating. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's got to be things you can
get this regression things, and I tried to have a regression once, but
I don't think I could be put full the under or certainly awesome point by
this person. And you begin to wonder, am I actually making this up
myself? Or yeah, a dreaming while you're half awake. Yeah, because
when you get to the point, because I know I was, I was
thinking am I making this up? Or am I actually remembering something, you
know, because obviously we've got so many things over our throughout our lives and
movies and stuff where there's so much stuff that goes into your brain memories,
you know, from that, and you do wonder if it's something that you're
conjuring up in your in your mind and thinking it was a false memory type
of thing. And yeah, I would look to have a regression. I
kind of love to just for my own interest. Really, I would love
to do it. I personally, I don't think I could be fully put
under, but maybe I'm wrong. I mean, I'm excepted. I'll accept
to challenge anyone out there, what's the culture. But I really i'd really
love to be put under properly, you know, you know, try someone
else. Yeah, any regression type of the I'm not talking about under anesthetic.
I mean, you know you know what I mean. But I'd love
I would love to know about my past lives and if I've got any days
and and and what what that what that story that I was coming out would
be anything true? I'll tell you. I'll tell you a little bit ab
I'll tell you a little bit about but I won't go into big details here.
But I've always been a bit scared of not scared head water, that's
the wrong thing, but scared of drowning and things like that. Now,
in my in my regression, thing that I came up with, I was
actually drowning. I was on a ship and I can remember drowning. I
can still remember all this. So this is what this is what I say
to you. Was I making that up? Or was that really something that
happened to me? This a little bit more, Yeah, but when when
you put it together, because you know, like in the old pirate days,
apparently I think I came up with I was sort of a youngster on
one of these ships and I don't know if I've overboard or something and drowned,
but that that's kind of it's a horrible memory. But I'll actually remember
drowning, you know. It's it's a crazy thing. But I say,
was it a memory or did I make it up? I don't know.
It's just one of those strange things. But yeah, i'd like to I
would really like to be on one day. Do you ever hear stories about
demons and elementals and things in your investigations? Yeah? Yeah, the whole
demon thing, you know, it's not for me. Everybody. You always
get there, oh it's a demon demon this, And you know, I
think even if you are talking to people on you know, spirits on the
other side, there's good and evil everywhere, isn't the demons from the bowels
of the earth or whatever. Yeah, the demon theory is it's not for
me, obviously, I know it's for some people. And I'm not not
putting that down because you know, there are no experts in this field.
It's nobody is an expert, because how can we prove it. Yeah,
it's just something that I don't personally buy into because I know you're relationship with
the race Chasers and then a lot of the American ghost hunting shows they always
come up with demons and evil spruits quite quite a bit. I mean we
went we went to Bobby Mackie's with them in Kentucky and that's they say that
that's got the portal to Hell in the basement and demons this, and yeah,
it was active. It was. It was an active place and me
and Jemma took plenty yourself is stood in said portal to Hell but didn't encounter
any demons. Well okay, yeah, it's just something you're interesting. I
don't know if there's sort of a lot of mischievous spirits or people making out
that they're demons and or they're just normal people just pretending to be that's it.
You know, somebody's having a laugh at you on the other side.
You know, look how funny it'll be to scare these people to death.
Yeah, all about things elementals, theories and goblins and things like that.
Again, I'm not writing it off. It's not something I'm into. It's
not something I've really looked into. Are kind of followed up in any way,
probably because you know the company I we're all kind of into the same
thing. We're all into the paranormal thing. It's not We're not so narrow
that that's all we're into. But yeah, the elemental thing isn't something I've
ever really looked into, So I probably don't have too much of an opinion
on it, purely because I'm not informed about it. Yeah. I didn't
think I was interested in theories and things until I heard a talk or Kate
or was the second name, I can't think the second name, but she
able to talk about elementals and theories and things and and goblins and wolves and
all that, and it was really fascinating and it was very believable what she
was saying about it, you know. And yeah, I just wondered what
you felt about it. Yeah, and it's you know, it would be
interesting to hear somebody like that talk because, like I say, it's I
know nothing about it. I wouldn't know, you know, where to start
really, so it will probably be quite interesting to hear from somebody who might
be a bit of an expert, especially for me. Peple are interest.
Well, she definitely gave the impression that theories and the gobblins that you hear
about are not a lot you see in the Disney films actually can be quite
eager, well you know, quite mischievous. So so you go. So
it's one of those things until you see it, I guess it's one of
those things you don't really know about. That's it. Yeah, But anyway,
I guess that's kind of an hour ap And wow, that's gone fast.
Yes, yeah, thanks for coming on, Nick, it's been great
talking to you and looking forward to seeing you. It's and maybe i'll see
you before the festival. I feel a road trip coming on, Yeah sure,
yeah, You're always welcome, but it would be great, but always
if I don't say you'll be seeing you at the festival anywhere. That's in
September, the oh white Water date of it. Oh, it's the nineteenth
September, twenty September. Now, are there are any tickets left if people
want to get them. There are custom packages available where you can kind of
build your own festival experience. You select if you want day tickets, if
you want to go to the various add ons. Can you can still build
those tickets the vip angelic packages which include everything and have the exclusive stuff.
I want to say, there's maybe two left. They are almost sold out,
ye, don't they They are mostly two returning guests, which we are
super pleased about because that speaks volumes. Yeah, children know, I've got
one of those, so we're all excellent. I've got what I bought the
first ones, but don't I Maybe you did, but yeah, I know.
I jumped straight on as soon as I saw WI come out before him.
Absolutely. Yeah, you had to be quick. I think got most
of them sold out within the first forty eight hours. It was really quick.
That was actually before we ever knew who the guests were going to be
you know, oh yeah, we've not announced anything. Yeah, we kind
of had a few in our back pocket. We knew who we were going
to start to announce, but no, none of you guys. Yeah,
it was that's how sure we were it was going to be a great event.
Anyway. Yeah, that was amazing. That was really really nice for
us to know that people were willing to, you know, part with the
harder in cash and buy these tickets not even knowing who were bringing them.
So that really meant a lot that people put trust in us to put on
an amazing event. Yeah, I mean I could do because it was absolutely
brilliant and I'm really looking forward to it anyway. Nikki, thank you so
much for capital. It'll be great, great talking to you. Thanks for
finding the time. I know you're a busy lady. Back to work tomorrow,
dicularly. Thank you very much. Oh, thanks, take care of
yourself. Cheers the girls for me. Cheers, Bob, thank you,
Boby, Thank you Nikki. That was absolutely wonderful. If you did great
and I'm so looking forward to the event along with some more fun and games.
Right for my next show, I have another young lady who I met
in Manchester last year at the Awakening conference. She's at you an American who's
living over here at the moment, and she's had some amazing events in her
life which I think you're going to find fascinating. Her name is Ivette McLain,
so that will be on the next show, that's Monday, February fifth.
I Vet McLain. As always, if you'd like to get in touch
with me between now and then, my email address is David Young two q
N at yohu dot co dot UK. That's David Young too, q N
at yohoo dot co dot UK. So once again, thank you for joining
me. I hope you enjoyed the show and I hope you'll join me for
the next one with Yvette McLain. That's the fifth on Monday. So I
shall bid you all farewell, thank you for listening, and take care of
yourselves. Bye bye, good night, Leap Tight Cleasant Dreams. Spooky Paranormal
Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on the Paranormal UK Radio Network.