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bid you welcome. Hello, Welcome
to the show. I hope everyone's well

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well. I've had some great feedback
after the show I did with Nick Cole,

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which was the previous show. If
anyone missed it, you can still

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download it. That was actually an
extra show I did last week, and

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thank you all for listening. Now
this particular show, I have a young

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lady who's responsible for running and organizing
the Festival of the unexplained what we have

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here in the UK. You've probably
heard me mention it before a few shows

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back. I did have Rachel Ashman
on the show, who is another one

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of the organizers, but on this
particular occasion, my guest is Nicki Scoland,

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so we should be talking a little
bit about the Festival of the unexplained

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for twenty twenty three, which was
last year obviously, which was absolutely brilliant,

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by the way, and the coming
Festival of the unexplained for twenty twenty

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four. But as you'll be finding
out, there are some amazing guests speakers

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who will be involved. So without
further ado, I'd like to introduce Nicky

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scold them to the show. So
here we go with Nikki. Hello,

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Niki, welcome to the show.
Well, Idea, you look radiant.

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I remember it. Don't be a
positive of you. Oh, go back

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to your easel. This is my
show. Is not going to get a

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word in edgeways anyway. After that
over excited interruption, best try once again.

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Hell NICKI, welcome to the show. Hi David, how are you?

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I'm fine, thank you, And
we were just saying off here it's

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cold down here and it's cold up
there, and it is luckily neither of

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us have got snow yet, but
that's beside the point. But anyway,

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the festival will the unexplained that twenty
four. We're both very much looking forward

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to that. You're one of you're
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yep. And what is your role
in organizing well, a bit of

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everything. Really. I think my
official title is oh god, I don't

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even know what my official titles.
It used to be sponsorship coordinator, but

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that's right, I saw that.
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that's it. Were it was mainly
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that kind of thing, right.
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the same kind of thing. Now
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divvy up jobs. So yeah,
currently I'm on with planning our day trip.

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Mmm. Do you won't tell me
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Absolutely not? Now. Already had
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show. Yeah, that's good.
But it's good though, really because we

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don't want to spoil it anyway,
do we. So that's it. Yeah,

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yeah, you can until we're off
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now somewhere planning the day trip and
organizing the awards, which is really

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exciting. It is very exciting.
Yeah, because you've been the festive The

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Unexplained has been nominated for a GPN
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is very exciting. We didn't expect
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either, and I think we both
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I would be very surprised if it's
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an amazing event, you know,
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one out. But I mean,
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I mean, you're a winner.
You're a winner for people to just

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nominate you in the first place.
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Explained twenty twenty four, let's talk
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was in September. What September last
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but it seems a lot it does. It's going to creep upon us

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again. I know, they does
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waiting for it, all of a
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it's gone. Yeah. But I
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coming say we you've got you.
You've got the great Dave Shrader coming back

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again. We need the Festival family, David. Yes, I feel as

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if I am part of the family
now. We are regulars. Now we've

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been to two and this will be
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come to all of them. Hopefully
I'm still around. It's your hat trick

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year, isn't it? It is
the hat trick year. But what a

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fantastic event it was last year to
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and the other show was The Devil's
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also the amazing drawer for me.
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with Shame. That's fantastic. I
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those I don't think any of us
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the three of them that we're super
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in this country. Never ever done
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and I think we've only done one
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long time ago. So it really
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excited about it. Yeah, I'm
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go to the Guyers of Justice or
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of whatever it's called because exchanging name
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to be kind of like a house
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doing an investigation the same as what
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yeah, we've got all our or
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be coming to the ghost hunt as
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have the opportunity to investigate with some
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super excited to get that event underway. It's going to be really something else,

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I think. Yeah, I mean
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Well this let me get this right. It's a notting Galers of Justice.

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I believe it is. Yeah,
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In case anyone's listening to me and
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that's where it is. It's Nottingham
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what it's called now. Still,
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venue. Have you ever been I've
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I've been there before. It's a
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in a lot of places. You
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is quite a big place. You
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Where did I come from before?
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bottom there's there's like a cave area, isn't here which is below where the

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celles are? Yeah, I think
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then suddenly you're in a cave and
cave under the ground. Is it used

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to go to the other isn't it? Yeah? And also and in the

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big you have the large yard and
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gallows and all that sort of.
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that comes out of the wall.
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was actually where they used to hang
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didn't actually use the gallows as such. There was a there was a beam

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that came out from the wall somewhere. Maybe maybe I've got that wrong.

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I could be wrong. Yeah,
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moment, I don't think they're real. They're kind of just a prop that

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they are where it would have been. But yeah, I went there with

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Rachel. We had such a good
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quite a lot of paranormal investigations there. I think a lot of teams try

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to get in there, don't they
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to get the caves of Duttingham as
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that they're called? Yeah, we
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secret. I'm not sure if that's
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you in on a little secret.
I'm not sure if that's confirmed. No,

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it's you can hire it as part
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if we have. I think it
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up taking, because the uptake for
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not already sold out, it's incredibly
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numbers that we take, we're going
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we might end up into different places. They are very I see, I

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understand. No, no, I
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it is said about the not in
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can change. When I'd like to
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there. I have not either.
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me. Well you all go well
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Daniel class is coming. He couldn't
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very upset about that. And he's
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believe. Yeah, so he's got
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written a book about it. Yeah, give a really interesting talk. Actually

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I sat in on his talk at
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it was really good to hear all
about the Hinsdale House people. Yeah.

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I want to get his book this
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so I definitely got the book this
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that. I suppose I could get
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a character. It's right down to
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people are following this business if you
recall it, the business. Apparently it's

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just like everybody else, aren't they, And everyone's really interested in what everyone

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does. And I thought Denny's a
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it was. It was a lot
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back this year and obviously they expanded
the now my Haunted h Q. They've

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got a place over in Pennsylvania.
If I'm not wrong, he's teamed up

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with Darryl. Darryl Marsden. I
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didn't know they expect was that problem? Was that brought on through the meeting

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or the festival? Yeah, I
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saw an opportunity. And that's amazing, isn't it. It's really amazing.

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friends and they are friends follower falls. That's brilliant. Yeah, you can't

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get rid of us. Hopefully we're
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there together with a bit of luck, with a bit of luck, that

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would be really good. Yeah.
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to get on board is run Jacovit
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a mouthful, those two names,
but they look fantastic with the research they've

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been doing. Yeah, the static
on project. He's got the special equipment

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that he seems to be able to
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for getting voices. E VP is
basically, isn't it. Yeah. I

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mean I don't know the exact science. I think it's something to do with

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the fact that they've removed all kind
of radio interference and things like that,

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but it looks incredible. We so
look at our and they're a real first

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for convention over here. I don't
think everybody's seen anything like that, So

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it'll be it'll be awesome for them
to kind of come over and tell us

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about what it is they do.
And we're hoping that they might bring some

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equipment to the I'm hoping that you
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don't you. It depends on how
Hippie is and how customs and all that

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canpla measuring it all through that,
But I should imagine that I children mentioned

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it's bigger than a suitcase, really, but I mean, what else do

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they need they bring a suitcase?
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I need. Don't forget your close
don't worry about But anyway, Rod,

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the Lord is if you're listening,
looking forward to meeting you after that.

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We've got now this is this is
one that so we're all talking to Rachel.

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She didn't know either. We've got
Dan and Adam of the Ghost Trip

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investigations. Now do you know now
you only know with Dan and Adam you

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do not know any surnames. Oh
it's Dan Sprague and Adam Olkley. So

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we've got some So that's called spy. Yeah, they don't like you know,

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Prince because it will talk. When
Rachel on the show, she didn't

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seem to know what the surnames were. Yeah, yeah, okay, Sprague

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and Oakley Shell make it m and
it is doctor Kate Sheryl coming as well.

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Still, yes, she's definitely still
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an all star lineup. This fantastic. Yeah yeah, that's apart from you.

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All your goals are run. It
was your stars right anyway, you

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know you say all the right things, David, Yeah, I'll mean them

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too. A lost but not least
this Penny with this Morgan who actually she's

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involved in sorting the days out as
well, isn't she She is, she's

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our resident historian. Yeah, she's
brilliant. She is fabulous. So yeah,

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we can't have a festival without Penny
this time. So you know what,

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she's on board. She's she's part
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Starian and the stuff she does is
incredible. She's she's very funny and as

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well funny was The funny thing is
she doesn't live that far for me,

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but I never see her over here, I believe it or not. Rachel

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probably probably, I'll give you an
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visit her by a little a short
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to the secret bunker? I think
COVID and secret, Yes, nuclear bunker,

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which I've been to. I'm a
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It's amazing. I'll tell you what, if you ever get the chance

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to come over this way, I'll
take you because you know Jial can cover

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as well, because she's not been
to it either. To me, yeah,

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I've been here about well. The
last time I've been it was about

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five years ago, and I took
Colonel Charles Halt there. He was involved

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in the relationship of urophone incident in
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Well, I took him there.
He was quite amazed with it,

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know the size of it and the
history of it and everything. It's got

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quite a few paranormal instances as well. There. Yeah, I like to

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go. Yeah, so if your
fancy coming sometimes, let me know and

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we will go. But let's make
it happen. Yeah, And now Dave's

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coming, and he's coming with Neil
story because they're involved with what's that travel

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company, Maria Maria Schmitz travel company? Because Dave's coming over with the and

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Neil story is part of that.
So Neil's not actually going to be speaking,

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is he? I suppose. I'm
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quite all the time, but I'm
sure Neil will end up speaking. It

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will be officially, certainly at the
meal or something. Anyway. He's such

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a great storyteller and such a great
I love. He's fantastic. Neil and

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his mustache will I'm sure I draw
a crowd unless he shopped it off for

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him. But no, nope,
not, It's going to be fantastic.

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With that that lineup of people,
it's just a it's a it's really a

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mega cast, isn't it. You
know, it's brilliant. Is it's a

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bit terrifying? Yeah? Well really, I know I was talking obviously previously

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about the twenty twenty three and I've
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You know, one mistake really,
because I think it's the excitement of

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those names. Because when I started
off with Dave Schreder said about Cindy,

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it kind of left off at that. On the whole what was your best

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part of the twenty twenty three event? You think, oh, wow,

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God, that's like asking me to
pick which child's my face? No,

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I know, I know it's very
difficult to pick it because every day was

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fantastic. It was, you know, I think it's although we have a

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great time with the you know,
the speakers do these amazing talks and we

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have a great time at the parties, I just think it was just hanging

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out with all the guests and all
the speakers and just chatting and just getting

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to know each other and just having
a really good time. And it's you

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know, it's it's what it's all
about, you know, we all network

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and we all make contacts for whatever
paranormal thing we're involved in. But I

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don't think you can top making these
friendships with people that you might never have

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met otherwise. And that absolutely me. Yeah, like you say, has

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become a family. We've met so
many friends that yeah, we've got we've

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got there and we can call them
friends. I call you are free.

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We've got Rachel and ca. Yeah, we're all sort of sort of there

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together. So all you goals.
I think we can thank you for that

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because you have brought people together,
and you we make American friends as well,

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because there's an American group coming over
again with Maria Schmitz. We've made

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friends from the first one. I
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first Yeah, and since then they've
been coming over twice a year to do

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events for us at lost Ale Paranormal
so they've remained really good friends of ours.

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We've now got a huge group of
friends over in America from that,

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and you know, it's all doors
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So it's it's not something you can
top. Really, It's been fantastic talk

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to you about your lost souls.
A paranormal investigations as we go along.

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But so that was the first time
we actually met the Rage Chasers, was

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it. Ye? Yeah, we've
never even spoke to them before. I

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wasn't friends with them on social media
and nothing. That's the first time we

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ever met them. That's quite interesting. I actually thought you've already known them

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because I know that I know they're
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very soon, isn't it. March? Yeah, we can't go them.

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I mean, actually know we're known
as the Tennessee Raised Chasers, but I

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think they've they've called us. I
think there still is the Tennessee Chasers and

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the Rave Chasers where they've kind of
gone two separate ways. Yeah they have,

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Yeah, well story Yeah, Well, I don't think there's not been

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a bad blood between No. I
think they just sort of do their own

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thing, don't they. Because I
think maybe, you know, it could

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be that two of them can actually
travel board than the others where they're sort

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of tied to their families and stuff
like that. Different situations. People moved

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on. There's there's no bad blood, you know, it's it's just what

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it is now and it's work.
Yeah. Yeah, I hope to see

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them again sometime. Anyway, we're
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Yes, So how did that coming
to league with the Festival? The

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unexplained, Well, it's it's a
completely separate entity. Really, Me,

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Rachel and Jemma started it up.
I think it came about kind of as

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we're coming out of lockdown and we've
moved away from the teams that we we

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used to work with that we used
to team lead far and and things like

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that. Again, nobody fell out
with anybody. It was just kind of

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natural progression for us. You know, we're still really good friends with with

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people that we've worked with before,
and yeah, we just he came about

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us away really to be able to
investigate places that we fancy doing and take

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our friends along with us, and
it's it's just grown from there. And

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Rachel mainly well at first became friends
with Karen, who at the time was

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running Keep Paranormal, so we'd team
up with Keep, and then Karen became

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a friend of ours, and from
there that's when we became involved with the

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festival. Really. Yeah, things
I'm sort of into time, don't they,

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I think, especially when people seem
to gel together you know, they

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sort of want to work together,
don't they. That's probably what's with your

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group of goals there that mom,
we called your goals, do you because

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yeah, and you know we've become
heavily involved with the festival the unexplained.

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Now, Karen does come along and
do our Lost Soul events with us,

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especially the bigger ones. She's often
a guest medium for us, so it's

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it's all working out quite nice.
I was intended to get Carried and Rachel

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On together actually onto the show,
but Karen wasn't available at the time,

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so I had to do just a
show with Rachel. She'd never get away.

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Yeah, it could be almost expected
that, but I'm hoping. I'm

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hoping I don't get Carried on again
at some point. And I've also I've

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got Gemma lined up as well,
but she's not been able to do it

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lately. I think she was not
very well. But we're sortady out eventually.

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Now on your investigations, have you
had some really good, good results

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from any of your investigations? Gosh, I mean we've done so many,

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and there's always something to a greater
or less degree. You know, it's

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it's not the stuff that you see
on TV. You and me both know

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this. You know you might you
might sit for hours in a dark room.

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Oh, no thing, that that's
the best thing. I mean,

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I'm not into all your flashing lights
and gadgets. I like to sit on

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in the dark and listen to what
I can hear. But yeah, we've

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one that sticks out is And we
didn't think we got it until we're going

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all through all the evidence afterwards,
and we're at the Fleece in Ellend,

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this really really old little pub,
and we're upstairs on like a mezzanine levels

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a surprise. Yeah, well,
you know, we have a reputation to

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maintain. And there was just me
and Rachel and Jema sat up on this

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mezzanine with the big eaves up into
the roof, and we've put a laser

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grid on and we weren't really paying
much attention. We're snapping pictures in the

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dark and chatting between ourselves. There's
nobody else up there with us. It

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was a super small group that we've
got. When we're going back through the

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photos afterwards, there's a picture.
I'll send it to you afterwards if you

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want to see it, if I
can find it, and perfectly picked out

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black shadow, like blocking out the
laser grid. And I know that's the

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purpose of a laser grid, that's
what we use them for, but you

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never see it to that extent.
But that's probably been one of the best

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things we've captured. Rachel gets a
lot of e vps using she uses iPhone

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Live Live photos. Yeah, she's
found that that's a really great way of

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picking up e VP She's had some
Yeah. I mean mine doesn't do that

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because I'm not fancy enough to have
an iPhone, But yeah, she's picked

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up some really great stuff, particularly
god, what's it called Draclow before that

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fabulous place closed down. Yeah,
there's another place. I've never got some

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quisit, but they've closed it all
down completely now they well, it's used

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for spying, a storage or something, but yeah, it's completely close to

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paranormal groups, which is a massive
It was the most ridiculous, confusing place

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that I've ever been to in my
life, and I don't think I've ever

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been as cold closed down for a
reason. No, I don't think there's

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a particular reason behind it. I'm
not sure if it was sold on or

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you know, somebody was paying them
better money. To be able to use

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it. But yeah, it's been
like that for a few years now.

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That's a huge shame. It's a
really amazing one that we've lost from the

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list if you care. Yeah,
I ready didn't have closed. That's a

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that's a shame. Well something else
has a cross. Yeah, mark that

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one for now. So, I
mean, going back into your younger years,

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did you have any paranormal experiences?
So what brought you into the paranormal

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one in the first place. I
mean, I think now I'm sorry for

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being rude. I didn't mean you're
younger, because you're young. Now what

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I mean is your I'm I'm knocking
forty now what I mean. So,

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I'm pretty sure. I mean I
had the usual as a teenager who absolutely

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fascinated me anything spooky. I used
to watch this Strange but True and things

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like that if you remember that on
the on the BBC. Fascinated by it.

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But it wasn't really a thing,
you know, in the mid nineties

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when I was a teenager. It
went from I mean this is on my

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bio on the website. I think
that it started with drawing our own homemade

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weigiboards and doing those with equally weird
friends and scaring ourselves to death. And

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then it was something that kind of
went by the wayside a little bit as

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as I got older, because it
wasn't a thing up until probably the last

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fifteen years. It was really quite
niche and I mean, we know,

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I know, we're all a little
bit weird now, but it's much more

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mainstream. So yeah, it came
about, and I've got Rachel to BlimE,

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thank whatever you want to call it
for this, but well, she's

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a bit weird anyway. She's how
she's done. Look, you look in

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the dictionary and you look for weird
and you find Rachel. But you know,

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we love I wouldn't swear. It's
when I met Rachel. Our girls,

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our eldest children of the same age. They've been best friends since they

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were two, and they've met at
the local preschool. And I met Rachel

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waiting for the kids waiting at pickup
time at pre school, and it was

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just the normal, you know,
polite mum's chit chat to start with.

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And then I think the weird creeping
out a little bit. You know,

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It's like I think I found a
kindred spirit here. So it was when

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me and Rachel became friends and she's
not been able to shake me off since

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that. We realized that we both
had this interest in, this fascination with

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the paranormal, and that's when we
then started going to the odd events as

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guests, and then it just snowballed
from there and here we are. Yeah.

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Now, I'll tell you what it
is funnier. You do get drawn

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to certain people, don't you.
And I've found it myself. You do.

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You do find the I don't know
if it's a megritism, but you

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do just draw to somebody and you
seem to know that they're interested in the

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same thing as you are. I've
experienced quite a few times. Yeah,

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I definitely I agree with that,
which is probably why we have such a

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great time at the festival, because
we're all like that anyway. So we're

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room full of people, all with
equal amounts of weird coming together. It's

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just a beautiful it is. Yeah, it is. You're not a witch

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or anything or you just because some
people think of themselves as witches or or

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are you? Are you clear boy
at all? I am about a psychic

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because you're average breeze block David.
No, well, not at all,

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I'm sure you're more than that because
we've all got a little bit of it

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in us. I mean, I
don't think I'm psychic either, but there

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are times when you sort of pick
up on things. You know, we've

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all got a bit of it in
us. I agree with that. Yeah,

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but no I'm not. I don't
claim to be sensitive in any way.

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I'll just find it because like,
yeah, yeah, well so i'd

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love to be. I mean,
you can, you can develop it,

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obviously, but you can. I
mean my friend, I don't know if

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you do. You know Joline Jackson
Blockwood, No, I don't think so.

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He's a fabulous medium. It's a
really close friend of mine. She

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does a lot offense with us,
and she keeps telling me should develop it.

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There's something and never have. Well, I mean, I'll tell you

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what I've been told by a couple
of mediums. I've got a pair of

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healis. I've never used it or
anything like that. So we're where all

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would go with that. I don't
know, but my hands are always very

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warm. I don't know. I
don't know if that's anything to do with

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it. But on occasion, when
do you alls have a headache or store

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a shoulder ache or something like that. She said, I'll put your hands

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on my shoulder, and it seems
to take it away. So I don't

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know. I don't know if it's
just sort of will power or whatever.

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But we've had some strange events with
that. But as I said, I've

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never tried to develop it, and
I could never see I was a heler.

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You know, you don't think of
yourself that way. When someone tells

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you something, you think, oh, no, no, why would I?

404
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Why would I? Why would I
have that gift? You know?

405
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:22,200
You think, actually, yeah,
But I mean I kind of wish that

406
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,599
maybe years ago, when I was
a bit younger, maybe I might have

407
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,000
perhaps I should have developed it or
something. I don't know, but I

408
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:36,319
suppose it's not too late. But
you know how I would feel about it.

409
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:40,400
I would feel that me going around
telling everyone I'm a haler and saying

410
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,079
I can I can make you feel
better. It makes me think, well,

411
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,759
yeah, you're something special that,
don't you. You know that's the

412
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:49,319
way I look at it. Do
you think that I find it hard to

413
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:53,559
say that I can do this?
You know? Yeah? Yeah, because

414
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:57,920
you feel like people thinking really yeah, I mean, because I'm quite I

415
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:02,519
like to sort of would always like
to stay under the pairapet really in my

416
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,160
sort of in the past when I
was younger. I was very, very

417
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,559
shy when I was younger, and
probably that's probably the reason why I would

418
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:14,359
never sort of put myself out there
to do something like that. Yeah,

419
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,240
even coming down to doing these radio
shows. I mean, if you'd have

420
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,319
asked me, like, what was
it there for, if you have asked

421
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:23,480
me for four and a half years
ago, would all be doing radio shows?

422
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,400
I would have said no, I
would never do that there. But

423
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,440
yeah, and now we're coming out
to almost two hundred and so wow,

424
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,799
there you go. Yeah, I
mean I'm very I'm like you, I

425
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,720
melt into the background. When you've
kind of got a personality like like Rachel

426
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,079
that you work with a lot,
it's very easy to step away and let

427
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,920
somebody else do the people because she's
incredibly good at that. Yeah, but

428
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:56,599
I'm still a terrible public speaker.
Don't ask me to introduce anything or you

429
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,480
know, if I do anything at
the festival, I'm shaking like a leaf.

430
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:01,160
But you know, radio shows,
we're getting there. We do that.

431
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:04,960
Well, we to you by this
show, you do it right.

432
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:10,960
I mean you're probably doing better annoy
him. We know Karen some rather so.

433
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,160
I mean I don't really I haven't
really experienced Karen some mediumship really,

434
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,559
I mean that is she very good? To be honest, I have not

435
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,759
really. She always tends to be
on a team with Rachel. But you

436
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:27,720
know, we get really good feedback. Oh yeah, i'd assume so,

437
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,160
but no, she she tends to
go on Rachel's team. I tend to

438
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,039
take Joe line. Gary Fields does
a lot for us. Gary Fields,

439
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:37,319
He's another name I need to get
on this show. I thought that day

440
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,279
a few times. I do need
to get him on here, because I

441
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,880
know he's very good in Touch is
our very favorite scale. He's on my

442
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,599
friend's list anyway. I just need
to sort of get him on the list.

443
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,359
Really. Yeah, he's on the
list somewhere, but I think that

444
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,799
list keeps on getting shuffled about all
the time. Gary will talk all night.

445
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:01,319
Well good, I could just see
him keep quietly. You can be

446
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,279
brilliant. I've got a little bit
to say where you said about you shrink

447
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:08,359
into the background. You could never
shrink into the background with that bright red

448
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,640
hair. They'll sell you that there
in lies the issue. Yeah, you

449
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,799
cannot lose me in a crowd.
I mean, I've got to say,

450
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:21,960
we know we're on the last we're
on the last event, the twenty twenty

451
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,839
three event. When you sat at
our table, I actually didn't quite realize

452
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,319
that you were one of the organizers
at the time. Of course, I've

453
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:32,359
looked differently now and that's probably part
of your shrinking into the background that came

454
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,079
into that. It was only sort
of after that I thought, oh so

455
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,759
Nicky was part of one of the
organizers as well, so that oh yeah,

456
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:45,240
she just likes to sneak around in
the background. But it was very

457
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,079
striking the way you were in your
I mean, obviously I have to apologize

458
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:57,759
because Jill and I turned up in
jeans and sweatshirts because we we we did.

459
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,359
We actually didn't think that everyone was
going to dress up, to be

460
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,880
honest, I think there was a
bit of There was a variety. Some

461
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,000
people just dress up, some people
didn't. Some people went all out,

462
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,440
and it was fine, it's whatever
you comfortable and whatever you're going to have

463
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,800
a good time in. Yeah.
No, when you know, sometimes when

464
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,280
you go to these things and they
said all were dressed up, get all

465
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:19,320
and then you go and if you're
you're near ones doing it. You know.

466
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,440
We went we went to a Shorlock
home. I told Rachel this actually

467
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:27,719
Mozle tore you as well. So
if anyone out there these people, excuse

468
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,480
me. We went to a Shellock
Homes thing in London. So I about

469
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:36,719
to go on the Tube just as
Sholock Homes and Jill had. Jill had

470
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,199
luck if Audying closed on and all
that as well. So we get to

471
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,360
this svenue and everyone's it's like a
restaurant thing with the Shorelock homes. We

472
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:51,400
were the only ones dressed up.
Oh no. But as we walked in

473
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,320
whatever, I was just not dressed
in T shirts and jeans. And there's

474
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:00,239
one or two people with a hetle
or something. But that was a I

475
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,519
felt such an idiot after we've traveled
the way on the Tube and everything,

476
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:08,079
you know, so I kind of
think that people just don't bother. So

477
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,000
but I'm going to warn you this
time. Yeah, this time for the

478
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:19,039
twenty twenty four, we're going all
out excellent news. We'll say no more.

479
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,119
I've got a suit, din a
suit and bow tied a lot.

480
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,360
I can't wait. You're gonna like
James Bond. Yeah, well that's all.

481
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:30,639
I'll have to shape your beard off
him bearded bond. Now I'm really

482
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:35,400
looking forward to it. No,
we're going We're going to be all because

483
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,599
we kind of sneaked out a little
bit quite early, because we felt a

484
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:42,079
bit embarrassed because everyone was dressed up
to the nines and everything and we were

485
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:46,280
just sitting here like a couple,
a couple of scuff bags. And you

486
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,280
Strada turned up in jeans. Did
that's true? Yeah, that's true.

487
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,840
I mean when I was talking to
the Ratiol said, well, we turned

488
00:35:52,920 --> 00:36:00,199
up as paranormal investigators, so we
did. Yeah, that's a no.

489
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:06,079
We're just say we we won't disappoint
this time. Hopefully it will be amazing.

490
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,440
I can't wait to see everybody's outfits
again. Yeah, you look brilliant.

491
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,519
Actually, on the on the I
voted you was the best dress.

492
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,320
Actually, I'm not supposed to tell
you. I do know because I do

493
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,039
the votes. I know. This
is why I know, This is why

494
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:24,719
I knew you. I know you've
already seen it. I can't chop it

495
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,559
out now, it's too late.
I've said it there, Rachel. Rachel

496
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,400
was most put out, but I
did tell her, oh right, I

497
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,239
think it was all listed somewhere.
I think I won't say, well,

498
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,320
I won't say, I won't say
we're Neil Story was listed then, I

499
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,440
think he was on all of them. Money Neil Story is headed for a

500
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:54,360
landslide. And see as is mister
massilious. Anyway, it's get better be

501
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:00,760
more serious on your lost souls parble
investigations. What what locations have you been

502
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,599
to? And you know, did
you go far awide all over the country

503
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:10,199
or or sort of fairly local?
We do get about a little bit,

504
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,039
to be honest. A lot of
our smaller events we're still local. We've

505
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,000
you know, we do all the
Leeds venues. Most recently we've had Kirkstall

506
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,480
Abbey and Abbey House, which is
always a good one. We like picking

507
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:32,039
out little venues that aren't overdone.
We like finding the hidden gems and kind

508
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:37,239
of you know, doing something new
rather than the places that completely overdone.

509
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,440
I mean, don't get me wrong, We've we've done your biggest like Newsham

510
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:45,599
Park, drake Clow, things like
that. But yeah, we are hours

511
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:50,400
on the lookout for these these little
unknown venues and yeah we've we've had a

512
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,639
good time at them. Mm hmm. We do get back. So apart

513
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,559
from your own personal experiences, have
you known of any anything that's really been

514
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:05,400
quite spectacular? It near those events
personally are what people have said? From

515
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:12,039
what people have said, Yeah,
anything that comes to mind. I know

516
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:17,039
it's probably a difficult question to its
of just to come up. I think

517
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:22,679
the thing is, I know what
you're talking about when when you said about

518
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:23,920
it, it's not like you see
it on the television because obviously when you

519
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,480
see these shows on the Telly,
they're probably filmed over a period of maybe

520
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,239
six or seven hours. Yeah,
and what you're seeing on ye, what

521
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,920
you're seeing on the TV, you're
seeing it cut down. It's about thirty

522
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,960
or forty minutes of things going on. So it gives the impression there's all

523
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,480
sorts of things going on all through
that time, which is just the case.

524
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:49,800
It's not. Now I'm sure you've
been to places where you're just sitting

525
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,079
around. Do you start getting bored
towards the endything of it? Might as

526
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,760
well go home. I mean,
I get to feel about one am,

527
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,280
and I'm profess that is about the
time you start lodged off to go home,

528
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,360
and then all of a sudden,
the something will happened, wasn't it,

529
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,159
and the sort of tweaks your interest. Yeah, I mean we we've

530
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:13,280
recently done we've been a couple of
times to a place called Workley Top Forge.

531
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,480
It's near Sheffield and it's a very
old forge. It's only really small.

532
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,000
It's kind of a living history museum, so it's really interesting to look

533
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:27,159
around. But one particular experience we
had there, I was with Rachel,

534
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:31,199
was sat in this little upstairs room
and there was this huge heavy metal door

535
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,559
downstairs. It was it was such
a big heavy door because it was what

536
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,760
separated the foundry from the living quarters, so it was going to be a

537
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:45,039
huge, big lump of metal and
we were so upstairs and it just crashed

538
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:49,000
shut. There was no wind,
It wasn't the kind of door that could

539
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:52,599
be blown by a little breeze.
It was a huge, big chunk of

540
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:54,280
metal. Nobody was around it,
and yeah, it just slammed shot on

541
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:01,280
its own. I think Rachel nearly
shot through the ceiling, shot out for

542
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,880
chairs downstairs. But that that was
something that's really it's always when you can't

543
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:14,280
explain them, you know that look, maybe somebody playing playing a joke or

544
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,280
something because you get yeah, yeah
you do, and you've got to look

545
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,639
at what it could be first.
So we're downstairs absolutely shoving in and now

546
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,320
we couldn't explain it, So that
that was something quite good that we that

547
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,880
we had quite recently. I think
it was only last year that we were

548
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,800
there. That's quite interesting. I
mean also obviously on those sort of events,

549
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,480
you wonder that you ask if it's
been if it's happened before. That's

550
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,519
that particular type of event as well, don't you. Yeah, but yeah,

551
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:44,719
they've not had too many events there. A couple of other teams have

552
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,440
picked up on it recently, which
is what happens in the paranormal, which

553
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,239
is great. You know, we're
getting getting more venues out there. But

554
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:57,440
I think until it was another team
we went with. We went with Justin

555
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,360
at United in Paranormal and it had
never even heard of it before it had

556
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,800
been booked there. So it's it's
always good to find these these little hidden

557
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,840
gems. And I think we'll probably
go back. M hmm. Like you

558
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,639
said, you don't particularly like equipment
and things, but is any equipment used

559
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,199
with your with your team for instance, Yeah, I mean we've we've got

560
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,920
the whole arsenal. Really, you
know, when when you've got public investigations,

561
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,119
you need to have something for everybody, because some people like gadgets,

562
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:29,239
some people don't, and you know, it's nice to have everything. And

563
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,679
we do have a whole armory of
kit between us. A lot of it

564
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:36,239
stays in the bassroom. You know, you always get your bits you pull

565
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,320
out and you put in your pockets
because it's easy to carry. Yeah,

566
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,880
but yeah, Rachel uses the infrared
camera quite a lot, which which we

567
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:51,920
like. We've got the standard rempords
you just put out and forget about them.

568
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:52,840
You know, you can, you
can dop them out around the room,

569
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,280
forget about them while you're do anything. If they go off, you

570
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,480
know, great, let's let's look
into it. What could it be?

571
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,119
And if they don't, just pack
them up again at the end of the

572
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:05,360
night. So we don't tend to
have these really, we don't have big

573
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,440
ridiculous pieces of kit that you've got
to build when you get there, because

574
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,360
I can guarantee if we bought something
like that, it would never get built

575
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,039
and it would stay in the car. Yeah, yeah, I actually I'd

576
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:19,920
love to get on these days.
I know you've got a couple of Facebook

577
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,199
you were mentioned in. But yeah, we've had some built for us.

578
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:28,480
A very clever guy is a British
guy who lives in Atlanta, and he

579
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:32,960
has built some LSP wraith pods for
us for when well they're called wraith pods

580
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,199
because the rath Chasers sell them,
so for our wrath Chasers event. But

581
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:42,840
they are just rempods. So I
have bagged one of those for my kids.

582
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,079
Yeah, must have been. He
made six to sell and I have

583
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:52,639
advertised five. One one it's mine. I'll tell you what a cop of

584
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:57,039
with its. I've been too,
and as you one particular special event I

585
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:02,159
went to as a Scottish team.
They had some torches that were going on

586
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:07,559
and off and nobody was touching them. But the torches were actually answering to

587
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:14,960
questions yes and no everything, and
that was actually fascinating. That was probably

588
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,159
one of the most fascinating things I've
seen. You know, a lot the

589
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:23,280
small torches and obviously you think,
well, nobody can be doing that because

590
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:30,559
nobody's touching it, you know,
mind blowing eye thought. As long as

591
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:35,840
the batteries are full, you kind
of think, well, how yeah,

592
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,880
I mean, you need to switch
up on and off as right, So

593
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,280
it's quite an amazing thing. And
the fact that they were answering yeses and

594
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,159
those two or flash into or twice
or whatever. Hm, that's quite amazing.

595
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,239
Yeah, that's really good. What
do you think of the phone on

596
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,039
You get some telephone apps? What
do you think if any of those are

597
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:59,639
any good? No, in your
opinion. In my opinion, I've got

598
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:05,199
them. You know, I've tried
them. I don't think we've We've not

599
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,239
had to personally. You know,
other people might disagree with that. People

600
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,239
might have had really amazing results with
them. We've never had any results.

601
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,920
You know, we've installed them and
tried them out, because why would you

602
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,519
not. You know, if you've
got this amazing bit of kick carry around

603
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:20,480
in your pocket, you wouldn't want
to miss out on that. We've not

604
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:22,639
had any results with it. We
just tend to it's you know, it's

605
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:29,320
your random word generators. We've just
had nonsense. Really, nothing really jumps

606
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,719
out and smacks you in the face
as being oh my god, that's really

607
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:37,199
relevant. I got one installed on
my more piece on my laptop. It's

608
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,840
called after Life. It's supposed to
be very good. I've got that I've

609
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,920
got it on a little tablet.
It's one of the ones that you know,

610
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,320
when we're doing public events. People
like things like that, you know.

611
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:52,519
So if on this little windows tablet
that we carry around, and you

612
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:53,679
know, people can take that off
and see if they're get any results with

613
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,199
it, you know it, maybe
it might yield better results for somebody than

614
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,840
it does for me. Always worth
a try. Well, the thing is

615
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,320
ill ever actually showed you very much
yet, so also your opinion of it

616
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,719
if you know about it. It
looks pretty good. It does look the

617
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,679
part. It does look the part. One good thing about it is it

618
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,440
doesn't just spew out words constantly like
some of them do when you're just thinking

619
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:21,599
to yourself, please shush. So
it's not constantly going off. So that

620
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,239
is one good thing about it.
So you know, maybe it's easier to

621
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,920
narrow down if things are relevant,
but it's definitely worth try. Yeah,

622
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,280
yeah, definitely. Let's get into
your beliefs there. Obviously you do believe

623
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:42,599
your life after death, Well,
I think there's something do I have a

624
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:47,760
firm belief in absolutely what it is? No right, so when you go

625
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,480
so when you go into a paranormal
investigation, you go in as a skeptic.

626
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:59,559
Again, No, it's really hard
to define how I would which box

627
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:02,920
I would put myself in. I'm
not an out and out Oh my god,

628
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,559
everything is paranormal. Oh yeah,
No, definitely not. But I'm

629
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,960
not a skeptic. I'm very much
on the fence. I want to I

630
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,360
want things to be proven to me. I want to see things, I

631
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:20,559
want to experience things. But sometimes
I'll be sitting there and just think to

632
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:24,679
myself, you know, and past
the point of being scared. I can't

633
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,840
remember the last time I was scared
on an investigation, because you want things

634
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,320
to happen. Maybe full believer,
you know, I'm a believer that sits

635
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,360
on the on the side of healthy
skepticism. That's potentially with that. Yeah,

636
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,679
that's what. Yeah, so you
do actually believe, because I mean,

637
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:49,000
sometimes you can be parable investigators.
I just want to proo per everything's

638
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:52,159
just to say that it is,
that it's true, that's it. Yeah.

639
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,519
No, I think we have a
healthy balance. You know. We're

640
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:59,800
not the kind that here, you
know, a radiator pipe not because it's

641
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,199
down and immediately like, oh my
god, that must be paranormal. We're

642
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:07,360
immediately on the fence of you know, on the side of well, where

643
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,639
the pipes, Where could it come
from? Oh, yeah, you've got

644
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,880
you've got to look at drafts or
whatever. You Yeah, but we're also

645
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,360
not the kind that will write everything
off, because why would we be doing

646
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,800
this if we were sure? Absolutely, you know, we definitely I mean

647
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,880
I speak for all of us,
particularly me. I know, I definitely

648
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,719
believe there's something. I don't think
I think would be quite n reminded to

649
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,639
believe that that's it if when you
got on your your worm food, because

650
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:37,639
energy is you know, it continues. Your physical body might stop to stop

651
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,480
existing, but what happens to the
energy. So you know, I definitely

652
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:46,599
think there's there's something yet to make
my mind up firmly it is. But

653
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:51,000
that's why we do this. Yeah, so you're so, you're I see,

654
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,159
I'm a little bit over that fence
now because I do actually, you

655
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:55,800
know, with some of the experiences
and some of the people who have known

656
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:02,599
and everything, you do really believe
in it all and so seen enough to

657
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:07,960
convince me that there's her life after
death. If you like, I'll tell

658
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,000
you a little story now about I'm
sorry about Jill. She she actually before

659
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:15,480
I knew it years ago, about
twenty odd years ago, she had a

660
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:20,400
she actually died three times all the
way to the hospital when she had a

661
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,519
serious ESPA attack. That's Jill talking
about Jills, my wife. Because yeah,

662
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,119
yeah, I went for our audiences
out there, so this was before

663
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:36,000
I knew it. But and even
the ambulance drivers came into the hospital to

664
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,119
see if she was all right.
But afterwards, because because she'd actually I

665
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:43,880
told her that she'd actually died three
times in the mbulance. And what had

666
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,440
happened was she she said that she
actually saw it, went to the lot,

667
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:50,440
she saw this light, and she
was actually given the choice as to

668
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,119
whether to come back on not or
go or carry on into the light.

669
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:58,320
Oh wow. So I say,
that's Jill's little story. You can talk

670
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,079
to her about it this here ago. But yeah, I've had experiences that

671
00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:07,679
I can't explain, experiences that I
would describe as paranormal experiences, you know,

672
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:15,119
which is why i'd never call myself
skeptic. I'm I'm absolutely not a

673
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:19,480
skeptic. I just yeah, I
want it to be proved to me.

674
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,079
Yeah, sure, I keep going
out for the next bit of evidence.

675
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:27,480
That's why I mean, when you
do your events, do you do things

676
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:31,519
a table tipping and stuff like that. It depends on the guests. Yes,

677
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:37,760
sometimes you know, if you're doing
certain experiments and nothing's working, you

678
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:44,360
know that's that's paranormal investigation. We
know that. I think sometimes when you

679
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,599
get people that are barely new to
it, maybe trying it out, there's

680
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:51,800
a bit of a new experience.
I think they might expect more. And

681
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,840
you know this, this is where
you've got to be super careful because we

682
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:02,159
would never ever take any activity like
certain other people might do. So you

683
00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:06,079
switch it up, you switch up
what you're doing. You know, you've

684
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:09,119
maybe stopped the EVP session and you
moved to a bit of table tip in

685
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:15,039
you know Victorian parlor tricks to flashing
lights. So yeah, we go from

686
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:16,880
one extreme to the other. Really, we have the weige aboards, the

687
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:22,480
automatic writing plant, do the table
tip in right to the high text stuff.

688
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:29,960
So we do like to mix it
up result with table tipping. Actually

689
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:37,159
it was at god Well York Dungeon, and I've never seen a table move

690
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:43,719
like it. It was. It
was up on one leg and yeah,

691
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,480
that experience that as it's quite amazing. Mm hmmm and everyone was taking her

692
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:52,639
hand off the table. The heads
off the table at that time proved that

693
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,920
it's not you doing it. Sort
of see we're not took my hands off,

694
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,880
and I was sort of I was
looking under the table and see if

695
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,440
you and then I sort of touched
the table and I was pressing down on

696
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,320
it, and it felt like it
was all a spring, you know,

697
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,119
as if something was underneath you it
pushing it outwoods. It is really bizarre.

698
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,639
I mean, you say that the
room where we had the really it's

699
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:20,880
my one and only time that we've
had that kind of result from table tip

700
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,840
in. But the room we were
in. We walked into the room and

701
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:30,000
because everything's wired up and rigged to
special effects and things places like the York

702
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:34,239
Dungeon, and we walked in and
that the floor felt like it was moving.

703
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,800
It was it felt like if you've
ever been to Eden Camp in the

704
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,519
World War Two museum to have moving
floors in some of the hooks to emulate

705
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,840
air raids or whatever. And it
felt like one of those floors that might

706
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,880
be on a motor that might move
just just how it felt under your feet.

707
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,639
And anyway, it turns out it
wasn't it was a stone floor,

708
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,039
so I don't know what it was
that I could feel under my feet,

709
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,760
but that just happened to be the
room where we had the table tip in

710
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:08,519
experience, and you hadn't been drinking
that not either accusations. Well, these

711
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:21,840
photos will be glass. I tell
me about what do you think about those

712
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,519
its? I mean, we've all
done it when we were younger. And

713
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:30,360
yeah, and I always call myself
a blocker. You know, I'm more

714
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,920
than willing to have a go on
a wigea board. I'm not afraid of

715
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:37,320
them. But every time I touch
them, nothing happens. Yeah, very

716
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,880
very very rarely if I have my
hand on a wige board will anything happen.

717
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,360
So I tend to be more of
an observer because you know, who

718
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:52,840
wants to sit there and nothing happened? Not a clue, because you know

719
00:52:52,960 --> 00:53:00,199
it's it's if it was somebody potentially
who was afraid of it. You know,

720
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,800
you can maybe say, well is
it are you giving out that you

721
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,480
don't want anything to happen? But
I absolutely want something to happen. But

722
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:10,920
as soon as I touch it,
that thing will not move. Interesting,

723
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,599
Yeah, it's really bizarre. It's
a bit irritating. Yeah, I mean,

724
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:21,119
if you have ever had any readings
from the psychic have a lot Karen

725
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:23,639
prinstance, maybe not from Karen,
but I haven't. No, No,

726
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,639
I've never never had a formal reading. Obviously. I'm friends with with psychics

727
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,760
who don't read for me because they're
my friends, and I would never ask

728
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,079
them to give me the odd odd
bit, you know, if something jumps

729
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,320
into the head, But I would
never ask them to read for me.

730
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,320
But no, I've never had a
reading. Weirdly enough, doing as long

731
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,559
as I have. Yeah, I
just wonder if your head, because I

732
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:49,760
mean, you would know quite a
few people. And absolutely we've had some

733
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,199
quite amazing readings to children or one
or two of them. And I go

734
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,519
to it here because I've been sing
it quite a few times. But we've

735
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:59,960
had some really interesting readings that have
been quite true. Actually. Yeah,

736
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:02,840
yeah, yeah, I love I
love hearing about you know, things that

737
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,360
especially about especially when it's somebody you
don't know at all and they've got no

738
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,119
way of knowing anything about you,
and I come out with names of your

739
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:16,239
family and stuff like if it will
and where have you got that from?

740
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,440
Yeah? Where have you got that
from? And they're not sort of not

741
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:24,079
common names lot John or David or
whatever, you know. But so,

742
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:30,840
yeah, that's happened a few times
with Julian myself. Yeah, I should

743
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,480
do really, I should probably you
know, quite quite enjoy having a reading

744
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:37,719
and see what came out. But
it's not something I've ever done. Yeah,

745
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,639
it's it's just something that's I think
it's interesting to do it one or

746
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,440
once or twice. Yeah, definitely. I think it's a good test for

747
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:51,400
it to see how good a medium
is as well sometimes you know, yeah,

748
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:54,679
without them sort of trying to get
stuff out of you. Definitely.

749
00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:00,000
I mean, you know, we'll
talk about some forth with death and stuff.

750
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,559
I mean, do you believe in
reincarnation for instance? You know what?

751
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:07,960
Yeah, I think I do.
Yeah. Yeah. One of my

752
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:13,679
favorite things is these you know,
these stories about creepy kids that remember the

753
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:20,079
past lives. Yeah, that's fascinating. Yeah, how could a kid come

754
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:23,360
out with that kind of stuff?
You know? That fascinates me And that

755
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:29,880
you know that the kids talking about
these memories that weren't in their lifetime,

756
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:34,960
that is far more credible to me
than kind of listening to an adult where

757
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,159
you could say it's you know is
it the power suggestion? Is it?

758
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:40,480
Is it a memory that maybe the
mind's created over the years. It's something

759
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:45,360
that seen on Telly as a child, and b how convinced them it's their

760
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,760
memory. But these are kids,
you know, saying really accurate stuff,

761
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,159
and that really does fascinate me.
I love those stories. You'll get a

762
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:57,400
certain scientist, or it's something to
do with memories in their genes or whatever.

763
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,400
But I mean, you wouldn't come
out with an ancient and language,

764
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:08,480
would you, which which just happened? Yeah? Really accurate details about places

765
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,840
and names and stories and things that
happened. Yeah, I don't. I

766
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,320
don't know how i'd explain that,
which is probably why I find it so

767
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:21,400
fascinating. Yeah, yeah, I
mean there's got to be things you can

768
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,280
get this regression things, and I
tried to have a regression once, but

769
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,119
I don't think I could be put
full the under or certainly awesome point by

770
00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:31,880
this person. And you begin to
wonder, am I actually making this up

771
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:37,440
myself? Or yeah, a dreaming
while you're half awake. Yeah, because

772
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:39,880
when you get to the point,
because I know I was, I was

773
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,599
thinking am I making this up?
Or am I actually remembering something, you

774
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,800
know, because obviously we've got so
many things over our throughout our lives and

775
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:53,440
movies and stuff where there's so much
stuff that goes into your brain memories,

776
00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:58,559
you know, from that, and
you do wonder if it's something that you're

777
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:01,519
conjuring up in your in your mind
and thinking it was a false memory type

778
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:06,800
of thing. And yeah, I
would look to have a regression. I

779
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:09,239
kind of love to just for my
own interest. Really, I would love

780
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,840
to do it. I personally,
I don't think I could be fully put

781
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,360
under, but maybe I'm wrong.
I mean, I'm excepted. I'll accept

782
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,159
to challenge anyone out there, what's
the culture. But I really i'd really

783
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:29,199
love to be put under properly,
you know, you know, try someone

784
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:32,199
else. Yeah, any regression type
of the I'm not talking about under anesthetic.

785
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,719
I mean, you know you know
what I mean. But I'd love

786
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,239
I would love to know about my
past lives and if I've got any days

787
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:45,800
and and and what what that what
that story that I was coming out would

788
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:52,079
be anything true? I'll tell you. I'll tell you a little bit ab

789
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,280
I'll tell you a little bit about
but I won't go into big details here.

790
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,000
But I've always been a bit scared
of not scared head water, that's

791
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:04,320
the wrong thing, but scared of
drowning and things like that. Now,

792
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:07,840
in my in my regression, thing
that I came up with, I was

793
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:14,480
actually drowning. I was on a
ship and I can remember drowning. I

794
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,440
can still remember all this. So
this is what this is what I say

795
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,239
to you. Was I making that
up? Or was that really something that

796
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:28,880
happened to me? This a little
bit more, Yeah, but when when

797
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,960
you put it together, because you
know, like in the old pirate days,

798
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:35,920
apparently I think I came up with
I was sort of a youngster on

799
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,559
one of these ships and I don't
know if I've overboard or something and drowned,

800
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,159
but that that's kind of it's a
horrible memory. But I'll actually remember

801
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:51,679
drowning, you know. It's it's
a crazy thing. But I say,

802
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,199
was it a memory or did I
make it up? I don't know.

803
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,480
It's just one of those strange things. But yeah, i'd like to I

804
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:06,119
would really like to be on one
day. Do you ever hear stories about

805
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:15,400
demons and elementals and things in your
investigations? Yeah? Yeah, the whole

806
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:20,880
demon thing, you know, it's
not for me. Everybody. You always

807
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:25,480
get there, oh it's a demon
demon this, And you know, I

808
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:30,760
think even if you are talking to
people on you know, spirits on the

809
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:37,960
other side, there's good and evil
everywhere, isn't the demons from the bowels

810
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,639
of the earth or whatever. Yeah, the demon theory is it's not for

811
00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:45,880
me, obviously, I know it's
for some people. And I'm not not

812
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,360
putting that down because you know,
there are no experts in this field.

813
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,039
It's nobody is an expert, because
how can we prove it. Yeah,

814
00:59:54,159 --> 01:00:00,719
it's just something that I don't personally
buy into because I know you're relationship with

815
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,760
the race Chasers and then a lot
of the American ghost hunting shows they always

816
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,840
come up with demons and evil spruits
quite quite a bit. I mean we

817
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:15,039
went we went to Bobby Mackie's with
them in Kentucky and that's they say that

818
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:21,840
that's got the portal to Hell in
the basement and demons this, and yeah,

819
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,960
it was active. It was.
It was an active place and me

820
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:30,079
and Jemma took plenty yourself is stood
in said portal to Hell but didn't encounter

821
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:37,119
any demons. Well okay, yeah, it's just something you're interesting. I

822
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,079
don't know if there's sort of a
lot of mischievous spirits or people making out

823
01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:45,079
that they're demons and or they're just
normal people just pretending to be that's it.

824
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:47,159
You know, somebody's having a laugh
at you on the other side.

825
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,400
You know, look how funny it'll
be to scare these people to death.

826
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,760
Yeah, all about things elementals,
theories and goblins and things like that.

827
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,960
Again, I'm not writing it off. It's not something I'm into. It's

828
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:06,840
not something I've really looked into.
Are kind of followed up in any way,

829
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:13,440
probably because you know the company I
we're all kind of into the same

830
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,000
thing. We're all into the paranormal
thing. It's not We're not so narrow

831
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:21,480
that that's all we're into. But
yeah, the elemental thing isn't something I've

832
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:25,199
ever really looked into, So I
probably don't have too much of an opinion

833
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:32,079
on it, purely because I'm not
informed about it. Yeah. I didn't

834
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:37,480
think I was interested in theories and
things until I heard a talk or Kate

835
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,280
or was the second name, I
can't think the second name, but she

836
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:47,199
able to talk about elementals and theories
and things and and goblins and wolves and

837
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:52,639
all that, and it was really
fascinating and it was very believable what she

838
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,840
was saying about it, you know. And yeah, I just wondered what

839
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,840
you felt about it. Yeah,
and it's you know, it would be

840
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,920
interesting to hear somebody like that talk
because, like I say, it's I

841
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,480
know nothing about it. I wouldn't
know, you know, where to start

842
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:13,079
really, so it will probably be
quite interesting to hear from somebody who might

843
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:16,800
be a bit of an expert,
especially for me. Peple are interest.

844
01:02:17,199 --> 01:02:23,039
Well, she definitely gave the impression
that theories and the gobblins that you hear

845
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:28,199
about are not a lot you see
in the Disney films actually can be quite

846
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:34,199
eager, well you know, quite
mischievous. So so you go. So

847
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,880
it's one of those things until you
see it, I guess it's one of

848
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:43,480
those things you don't really know about. That's it. Yeah, But anyway,

849
01:02:43,519 --> 01:02:47,320
I guess that's kind of an hour
ap And wow, that's gone fast.

850
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:51,079
Yes, yeah, thanks for coming
on, Nick, it's been great

851
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:55,519
talking to you and looking forward to
seeing you. It's and maybe i'll see

852
01:02:55,519 --> 01:02:59,880
you before the festival. I feel
a road trip coming on, Yeah sure,

853
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:06,239
yeah, You're always welcome, but
it would be great, but always

854
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:07,639
if I don't say you'll be seeing
you at the festival anywhere. That's in

855
01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:13,440
September, the oh white Water date
of it. Oh, it's the nineteenth

856
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:17,239
September, twenty September. Now,
are there are any tickets left if people

857
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,440
want to get them. There are
custom packages available where you can kind of

858
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,199
build your own festival experience. You
select if you want day tickets, if

859
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,840
you want to go to the various
add ons. Can you can still build

860
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:36,840
those tickets the vip angelic packages which
include everything and have the exclusive stuff.

861
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:43,760
I want to say, there's maybe
two left. They are almost sold out,

862
01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:49,199
ye, don't they They are mostly
two returning guests, which we are

863
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,639
super pleased about because that speaks volumes. Yeah, children know, I've got

864
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:57,800
one of those, so we're all
excellent. I've got what I bought the

865
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,079
first ones, but don't I Maybe
you did, but yeah, I know.

866
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,440
I jumped straight on as soon as
I saw WI come out before him.

867
01:04:06,159 --> 01:04:09,559
Absolutely. Yeah, you had to
be quick. I think got most

868
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:12,719
of them sold out within the first
forty eight hours. It was really quick.

869
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,599
That was actually before we ever knew
who the guests were going to be

870
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:17,360
you know, oh yeah, we've
not announced anything. Yeah, we kind

871
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,280
of had a few in our back
pocket. We knew who we were going

872
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,559
to start to announce, but no, none of you guys. Yeah,

873
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,360
it was that's how sure we were
it was going to be a great event.

874
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,480
Anyway. Yeah, that was amazing. That was really really nice for

875
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,760
us to know that people were willing
to, you know, part with the

876
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,639
harder in cash and buy these tickets
not even knowing who were bringing them.

877
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,639
So that really meant a lot that
people put trust in us to put on

878
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:45,159
an amazing event. Yeah, I
mean I could do because it was absolutely

879
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:48,440
brilliant and I'm really looking forward to
it anyway. Nikki, thank you so

880
01:04:48,519 --> 01:04:51,079
much for capital. It'll be great, great talking to you. Thanks for

881
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:56,880
finding the time. I know you're
a busy lady. Back to work tomorrow,

882
01:04:58,599 --> 01:05:01,719
dicularly. Thank you very much.
Oh, thanks, take care of

883
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:08,719
yourself. Cheers the girls for me. Cheers, Bob, thank you,

884
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,159
Boby, Thank you Nikki. That
was absolutely wonderful. If you did great

885
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,920
and I'm so looking forward to the
event along with some more fun and games.

886
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,400
Right for my next show, I
have another young lady who I met

887
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,760
in Manchester last year at the Awakening
conference. She's at you an American who's

888
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,559
living over here at the moment,
and she's had some amazing events in her

889
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:30,000
life which I think you're going to
find fascinating. Her name is Ivette McLain,

890
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,039
so that will be on the next
show, that's Monday, February fifth.

891
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,599
I Vet McLain. As always,
if you'd like to get in touch

892
01:05:36,639 --> 01:05:41,480
with me between now and then,
my email address is David Young two q

893
01:05:41,719 --> 01:05:45,119
N at yohu dot co dot UK. That's David Young too, q N

894
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:48,880
at yohoo dot co dot UK.
So once again, thank you for joining

895
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,840
me. I hope you enjoyed the
show and I hope you'll join me for

896
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:57,880
the next one with Yvette McLain.
That's the fifth on Monday. So I

897
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,320
shall bid you all farewell, thank
you for listening, and take care of

898
01:06:00,360 --> 01:07:11,320
yourselves. Bye bye, good night, Leap Tight Cleasant Dreams. Spooky Paranormal

899
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,239
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