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How do 17 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,479 you mean we woke up this morning a couple of guys without any money. 18 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,479 We go to sleep tonight millionaires? Had I really found there's at least two 19 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,840 million in it. We had to get paid for coming all the way to 20 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:37,120 Africa, didn't we not that? Well, it doesn't make its stop for 21 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:42,879 those time times chanting. I wonder what they mean, and I hope is 22 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:46,520 that they may and everything is okay, that's TiO. What is it? 23 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:53,240 Excuse stay we stood, Tom Dunker? What is it sound on? Natives? 24 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,400 Tell me ask you a question? Uh? All right, ask question 25 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,879 ahead? To see Please to leave ivory here where you'll find it? See 26 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,879 it bloom here? Oh they do? Hey, you'll go back and tell 27 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,840 them at the abray belongs to Weather finds it and we found it. Tell 28 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:15,759 him cut out those top times, please, mister Hillary. But Tom toms 29 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:19,080 mean what they tell me to? Ask you to leave ivory here? Tell 30 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:25,800 him not cut it out to them? No'm not sure other natives listen to 31 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:32,960 him. Well that's that. Yeah, natives are silver statious. Well, 32 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,199 natives aren't. Let's skip them from all. Let's talk about you and me? 33 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:43,680 What about us? We'll just in case there's any doubt in your mind. 34 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:46,520 You. Oh, let's understand this. I don't trust you too much. 35 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,840 It's nice to know we've got the ivory, bring it back and you'll 36 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,840 sell it through your company. What do you intend to do about paying me 37 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:01,439 off? Oh? I've thought about that time. That's nice. You know 38 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:08,759 what I'm entitled, don't you? I suddenly do, and I've just decided 39 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:14,639 what you're gonna get. I suppose you tell me sure I'll do better than 40 00:04:14,719 --> 00:04:23,279 that? No? No, don't you wanted to know what I was gonna 41 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:46,279 do about paying you off? You're buying out time the hard way. Take 42 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:49,519 a letter to d Amstins on Boating Building. You got that must been yes, 43 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,920 mister Hilary. Gentlemen, I just returned from Africa with a quantity of 44 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,959 ivory which I believe you will be interested. M hmm. One of these 45 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:04,480 excellent samples are available immediately for your inspection. He will let me know and 46 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:15,439 I will be conveniently come in HANDA excuse please, mister Hillary Thunda, what 47 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:20,040 are you doing in this country? I come take back ivory? Mister Hillary 48 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,160 Ivory belong in my country. Getara here and I re belongs to may not 49 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,079 get out Ivory found by you and mister Tom Duncan. Mister Hillary, mister 50 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:34,279 Tom Duncan no come back with you. Don don't know what happened to mister 51 00:05:34,399 --> 00:05:41,800 Tom Duncan. Get out of here up by you, Dondo Sorry he threw 52 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:46,639 knife into deaths. Don't only want to show it. Good thing if Ivory 53 00:05:46,920 --> 00:06:02,680 returned, very good thing for natives and for mister Hillary. Will you sit 54 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,720 down, missus Duncan just turning, Markham. We should be here at any 55 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:11,279 moment now. Oh you have spoken to him, mister Vans. Yes, 56 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:13,959 right after you called me and said you'd be down here at my office, 57 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,040 Markham said he'd be here, and I'm sure he will now that I've seen 58 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:21,040 you, I'm not sure I want him here. Well, that's very flattering. 59 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,959 I do better with a little encouragement. Let me understand something. You 60 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:30,639 did want me to investigate your husband's death. That's true, isn't it? 61 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,279 Oh? I can wait after Hello Markham, Markham, this is missus Tom 62 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:41,199 Duncan. Her husband disappeared mysteriously while in Africa on an ivory hunt. She 63 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:44,800 thinks some investigating ought to be done. How do you do, Missus Duncan. 64 00:06:45,319 --> 00:06:47,399 At the moment with two very attractive men, it seems as if I'm 65 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:51,519 doing pretty well. Suppose we get down to facts, Missus Duncan. I 66 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,800 suppose that might be an idea. Mister Markham. Yes, as Vans told 67 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,399 you, my husband was on an ivory hunting expedition in Africa. He didn't 68 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:04,000 return. He went with a man named Joe Hillary, and Hillary claims Tom 69 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,480 disappeared in the jungle and couldn't be found. Hillary is back in this country. 70 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,839 Yes, I'll talk to him, Missus Duncan. But it seems to 71 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:15,800 me that you've accepted rather casually the fact that your husband is dead. You're 72 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,720 very observing in view of that, Missus Johncan. Why are you so interested 73 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:23,759 in finding out who might have killed him, conceiving that he was killed, 74 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:27,240 as you obviously imagine, you want to know why I want to know who 75 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:31,079 killed my husband. Yes, well, Joe Hillary brought back a fortune an 76 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:35,519 ivory. I think half of that ivory belongs to me. And I'm the 77 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:41,040 kind of a person who doesn't get what I deserve, only what I want. 78 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:53,519 Sorry, you had to come out of the house to take the rest 79 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,959 of those letters. Donna makeuly Sorry you have to work on your day off. 80 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,639 Sorry, Joe, I've been here before. Remember, let's forget all 81 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:03,800 that phenol. Please get out of my workshop here in the basement. I'll 82 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:07,040 give you a sample of that ivory. I want you to mail. I 83 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,240 want me to grow up and type the letters you gave me. Yeah, 84 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:13,279 I'm very much help. Yesterday after that Native Tonto came to my office. 85 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,439 Who could work after that? I'm not over it yet. Sorry about your 86 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:20,600 nerves. There we are, here, we are, and you're a little 87 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,680 fortress. I could never do any work in a place like this. Why 88 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:28,360 because there are no windows? The place is smaller s that condition. I 89 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,960 locked myself in. I think better, plan better. Can't take a look 90 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,600 inside? Well, I get the sample for you. I've seen the inside. 91 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,559 You've got so much junk and if there's hardly room to sit down, 92 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:43,679 tools and nails and springs and vices, and what's the use? Give me 93 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,200 the ivory and I'll get out with my word. Hey, yeah, there's 94 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,919 the sample. I want to commit a minute. No, thank you, 95 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:58,720 well, see you later. So long oving's sake, What are you doing 96 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:03,279 putting a bar across the door. Certainly, I don't want to be disturbed, 97 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,080 Donna. I really don't want to be disturbed. Wouldn't it be funny, 98 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:11,799 Joe if you were disturbed, despite anything you might do to protect yourself. 99 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:22,120 But I don't understand mister Vans, who indicated when I was in your 100 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,960 office that you would work on my husband's disappearance. Yes, I did, 101 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,519 Missus Duncan, and I will. But there's no reason for my coming up 102 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,080 to your apartment to make my plans. I'd like you to come. I 103 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,039 want you to have a special interest in this case me. It would be 104 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:41,159 much too disconcerting. I'm afraid. No. Please let me call you back 105 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:45,080 when I find out something about your husband. Afraid there isn't anything else I 106 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,879 can do. Goodbye Vents, happy hunting, Thank you, and the same 107 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:56,159 to you. Goodbye. I think i'd better go. Please don't be afraid, 108 00:09:56,279 --> 00:10:00,360 Missus Tom Duncan. I don't. How don't you get in here? 109 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,159 Window? We'll get right out through window. Whoever you are in fast, 110 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,440 don't don't must now keep away from me, Keep away, I said, 111 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:11,360 I told you, keep away, mister Tom Duncan. No, no, 112 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,279 that's what you think. Now, will you get out of here? Must 113 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,600 give me, come quick, give me. I don't know. Let don 114 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:26,399 my head, Let don't take god somebody maybe mister Tom Duncan, how do 115 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,759 you want? Don't go work? Or mister Tom Duncan in one country? 116 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:35,320 Help him? And mister Hillory fine Ivory. Don't know what happened to mister 117 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Tom Duncan. Oh, mister Tom Duncan dead, mister Hillory kill him. 118 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,240 I help you prove this to police. Unless mister Hillary returned Ivory to me. 119 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:50,559 I must bring Ivory back. Oh so that's the idea of it. 120 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:58,360 And Joe did kill Tom? Sit down, doundo, sit down. Maybe 121 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:11,480 we can work out something. After all, it seems logical enough to me 122 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,480 that if we ought to find out what happened to Tom Duncan in Africa, 123 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,039 we come here to see Joe Hillary, the man he was with Green Markham 124 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:26,320 definitely Vans coming yep out your side rather nice house Hillary lives in. Yes 125 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,519 it is perhaps we should have phone to make sure he's in. I would 126 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,519 have given him too much of a chance to have somebody say he wasn't in. 127 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:37,240 Again, your logic goes unquestioned. Vhas you want to handle the bell? 128 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:43,440 I think I can take care of that assignment. Would a murder in 129 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:46,799 Africa still come under your jurisdiction, Markham? Well, Vance, that remains 130 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:50,519 to be seen if it were a murderer. If yes, how do you 131 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,360 do? I'm Final Vance and this is District Attorney Markham. Oh, I'm 132 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,799 Donna Benton. Do you want to see mister Hillary? Yes? Is he 133 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,279 at home? Yes? He is. Please come in. Thank you. 134 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,080 I'm mister Hillary secretary. Oh. I've been working here all afternoon, was 135 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,519 taking a nap when the bell rang. Mister Hillary is still in his workshop 136 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,240 I imagine workshop. Yes, down on the basement. He goes there to 137 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:18,960 relax. Oh, it's so right down this way down the teleships where behind 138 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,440 you. He spends hours down here when he's under a strain, and he 139 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:26,879 certainly is since he got back from Africa. Why is that he brought back 140 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:31,840 two million dollars in ivory. That's enough to put anybody under a strain. 141 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,759 It certainly is. You know when I left him down here this afternoon, 142 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,679 he even put a bar on the inside of the door. That's odd. 143 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:48,879 Well, here we are just a second. Perhaps he fell asleep too. 144 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:52,240 Well, there's no place to sleep in there, just a room full of 145 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:56,840 tools and junk. Doesn't sound too comfortable, mister Hillary, mister Hillary, 146 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,440 the doors walk just a moment while I try that keyhole. Yes, keys 147 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,039 still in it, Markam, there's an axe over there in the corner. 148 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,480 I'll get it. You think something's happened to mister Hillary. It certainly seems 149 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,120 so. Any windows in that room none. The only way you can get 150 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:15,440 in or out is through this door, and it's locked from the inside. 151 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:18,039 Here's the ax van. Thank you. Better stand back, both of you. 152 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,399 I hope nothing's happened to him. I hope you are right. Yeah, 153 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:30,480 you got through the panel vans. Now reach in and turn the key. 154 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:37,200 Yeah yeah, Now, let's doors chill. Doesn't open. He bore 155 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,960 the door from the inside. I heard him do it. Yeah, I 156 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:45,159 can feel a bar. Wait just a second and I'll get it off if 157 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,080 I can. But reaching, Yeah, let's go, advance. I'm with 158 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,799 you, pitch blacking here. There's a light switch by the side of the 159 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,399 door. Find advance, not yet, but I'm looking. Where is Oh, 160 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,000 I've got it. That look at that man's good body on the floor 161 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:15,759 on the floor with a knife in its back. Is that mister Hillary murdered 162 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:20,559 in a locked room, locked and barred from the inside, with no windows. 163 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,000 This kind of a mystery should be enough for even you, Markham. 164 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,240 Right now, the only thing I can tell you is that it's too much 165 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:45,639 for even me. This is just rude, Attorney Markham. The Ivory murder 166 00:14:45,679 --> 00:14:50,679 case began in Africa, but culminated here in the killing of Joe Hillary knife 167 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:54,559 to death in his small workshop under impossible conditions. We know that Tom Duncan, 168 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:58,879 Hillary's partner in the Ivory hunt, disappeared in Africa. The Duncan's wi 169 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,960 I wasn't too concerned. Hillary Secretary A Donna Benton. We found out that 170 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Tundo, an African native, had threatened Hiller. Vance has met Miss Benton 171 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:16,720 outside the warehouse where the ivory is stored. I imagine you were very fond 172 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,960 of your employer, Miss Benton, and that his death must have come as 173 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,440 a great shock to you. I'm very sorry to trouble you like this. 174 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:26,440 It's all right, mister Van I don't see the purpose of coming down here 175 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,080 to this warehouse, but if you do, I want help. Thank you. 176 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,759 The mystery of that locked room is too fantastic for solution at the moment. 177 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:37,879 Perhaps I can get to the bottom of this case by finding the motive. 178 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:43,279 I believe it to be the ivory that's stored here. You have the 179 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,320 keys, Yes, I'm getting them here they are. I can see how 180 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,240 two million dollars an ivory might provide an excellent reason for killing your employer. 181 00:15:50,879 --> 00:15:56,200 I suppose that's so. Vance. There's a light on him here. There 182 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,639 shouldn't be a light on somebody's been here, somebody is here to just not 183 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:03,240 telling over sounded like it came from that direction. Vance, Look that figure 184 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,759 just going out the window. Stop him. I'll try you stop, stop 185 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,200 or I'll shoot. Shoot Vance quickly. Did you hit him? I don't 186 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,919 know. He was just getting out the window, and I'm not sure. 187 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,879 Let's go after him. I'm afraid he has too much of a start on 188 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,960 us. I'd better notify the police. They've got to find that man. 189 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Well, we won't find him. That man got too much of a jump 190 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:26,039 on us, that is, if it was a man. If it was 191 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,679 a man, Yes, of course it was a man. We saw him 192 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:30,000 over the window. Ledge. He was wearing a turban. You saw that 193 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:33,120 turban. That was Tondo Vans, the native I told you about him. 194 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,120 In that case, it shouldn't be difficult to pick him up, No, 195 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,879 I guess not. However, it might have been a woman who wore that 196 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:41,279 turban. But I tell you Tondo warm one just like that when he came 197 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,240 to mister Hillary's office. I know all the more reason why somebody else might 198 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:56,200 have worn one when they came down here. You've been inquired a while, 199 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:02,639 Vans thinking definitely Wow. En route to Missus Duncan's house, I can think 200 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:04,599 of nothing better to do than try and figure out the mystery of the locked 201 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,599 workshop where Hillary was killed. Now you go right ahead. I won't disturb 202 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,960 you, but I bet you're glad. I'm going with you, and as 203 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,119 much as we're going to see Missus Duncan very glad Markham. In fiction, 204 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,480 there are several ways people have been killed in locked rooms. Certainly the most 205 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,200 commonplace one, of course, is where a thin pair of pliers is used 206 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,519 to turn the key from the outside. Then there's the business of trapdoors, 207 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:30,000 false windows, and saw uh huh, only none of them apply to this 208 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,240 particular locked door situation. Wait an advance, eh, I think I have 209 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:36,960 an idea. What is it? This is going to be in your territory 210 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,319 a little bit. Listen, Let's suppose that the knife was attached to one 211 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,000 of the springs that were in that workshop. It was an iron pipe, 212 00:17:42,079 --> 00:17:45,240 let's say, so that it would be pointed in the right direction. Go 213 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:48,519 on, Well, a wire held a spring back. The wire was brought 214 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:51,759 around the floor and placed in a position where when Hillary nudged it or kicked 215 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:55,000 it or tripped over it, it would let the spring snap and hurl the 216 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:57,000 knife into Hillary's back. Lance. It could have been done that way, 217 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,960 you mean, because of all the wire and rs lying around the room. 218 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:06,920 It would be something Hilary wouldn't have seen. That's right, It's possible. 219 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,880 That's if that's it's the only possible explanation might have happened that way. I'll 220 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,640 let you know after we see Missus Duncan good. You know, I got 221 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,680 to like myself at that theory. I assure you that the affection is not 222 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,799 misplaced. But what I want to know right now is whether Missus Duncan water 223 00:18:22,839 --> 00:18:26,960 Turbin had got herself shot at by me down at the warehouse. And if 224 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:33,519 she did, we'll find out my friend, so will she. I'm fairly 225 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:37,039 certain this case is coming to a very successful conclusion. Markham, we know 226 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,599 how the murder was committed. All we have to do is find out who 227 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,720 did it. I never agreed that we did know how the murder was committed. 228 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,839 All I said was your theory was possible. How long, Missus Duncan, 229 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:51,599 Well, Vans and Markham, what did you bring him for protection? 230 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,359 Perhaps? May we come in why Well? For one thing, so we 231 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,839 can ask you why it is that your arm advantaged. I sprained it, 232 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:03,559 and you see you can ask that just as well when you're standing outside. 233 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:06,240 It isn't the answer he expected. I can tell you that it's given me 234 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,839 so many wrong answers. What could he expect? I'm sorry, I can't 235 00:19:08,839 --> 00:19:11,440 invite you in, gentlemen, unless, of course, this is a very 236 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,000 official visit, in which case I have no alternative. He is official, 237 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:18,519 but we have no warrant. If that's what you mean, your arm interests 238 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:22,200 me very much, Missus Duncan. Good day, gentlemen. Please call me 239 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:30,440 if there's anything else I can do for you. Missus. Don't don't go, 240 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,359 miss don't don't. Oh, I'm coming, Tundo and I'll have that 241 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,440 arm of yours fixed up in no time. Bullet wounds can be very dangerous. 242 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:45,440 Don't remember this? Wisides all right, Tundo. It's the least I 243 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:59,799 can do for you, after all you've tried to do for me. Hello? 244 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,519 Is this Dona Benton? Yes? This to Attorney Markham is yes, 245 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:06,880 mister Markham. Have you found out anything yet? Vans? And I think 246 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,440 we have? Oh? What is it? Would it be convenient for you 247 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,799 to be at mister Hillary's home this afternoon? Why? Yes, I imagine, 248 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:15,839 so please be there? Then? Of course Bottle Vance thinks there will 249 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,119 be some people there you want to meet. That matters, so do Why 250 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:22,240 what's the reason for this? I think we can prove how your employer was 251 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:33,680 killed and who killed him. Pretty good reason, don't you think? All 252 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:38,279 right? Thunder that bandits will hold and after you put your code on, 253 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,680 nobody will notice it. Missus dumb don't con thank you? Now I must 254 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,759 go back and get Ivory. Well there's really no hurry about that, is 255 00:20:47,799 --> 00:20:51,480 there, Tundo? I mean you can wait a while, can't you? 256 00:20:51,839 --> 00:20:55,799 Doundo? Must spring Ivory back to one country? Is reason? Doundo? 257 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,680 Come you, Dondo? Sorry? He caused many people many trouble. Oh, 258 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:04,000 mister Vance, that's right. While Markham and I were talking to you 259 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,759 a little while ago, I took the liberty of snapping the lock on your 260 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:12,839 door so I could come back. You'll not want him here to tea here, 261 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,119 Missus Duncan. Vette would be a man's size job, even if we 262 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,640 had two good arms. Tondo, no, no, just sit there till 263 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,480 we hear what Vance has to say. It isn't very much. I just 264 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:27,319 want both of you to come down to Joe Hillary's workshop in the basement of 265 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,319 his house at four o'clock. You see, we've figured out, at least 266 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,640 mister Markham has figured out how the murder was accomplished. We want you there, 267 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:41,160 why us, Oh, come now, Missus Duncan. I think we 268 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,920 can prove who killed Hillary, so it's practically imperative for you too to be 269 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:57,680 there. Hollingside, Advance, that's good. Secretary Dotter Benton, Missus Duncan 270 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,839 and Condo standing right inside the workshop door. Good. It's where we test 271 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,680 your theory. Markolm. I think I know the test. Have seen you 272 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,759 do it. You've set up a knife inside an iron pipe and held it 273 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:11,640 back with a spring. Then you stretched a wire that held the spring back 274 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,240 over to the spot where we found Hillary's body. That's right, You and 275 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:15,920 I know that's how Hillary was killed, and one other person knows that the 276 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,960 murderer. Presumably we'll ask each one of them to walk over to the spot 277 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,880 where the wire is stretched after informing them all if the room is exactly the 278 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,720 way it was when Hillary was murdered. The one that refuses to walk over 279 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,559 to that spot lest you trip the wire and release the knife must be the 280 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:33,480 murderer. Come on him, markom, and we'll see. My apologies to 281 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,880 you all. May I have your attention? Rightly? You're all entitled to 282 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,079 know why you're here. I should think so there was a murder committed in 283 00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:48,200 this room, a murder committed presumably behind a locked and barred door. All 284 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,599 right, Markholm take over right this. I'll listen everyone. We figured out 285 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:55,720 how that murder was accomplished, and we've arranged this room just as it was 286 00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:59,200 when Joe Hillary came down here the day of his death. What do you 287 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,799 mean you arranged this room? We believe Hillary walked into a death trap trap 288 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,160 and involved a spring, a knife, and a wire. We found Hillary 289 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,240 and that corner over there, missus Duncan, Yes, please walk over a 290 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:17,359 toy that corner. No, oh no, mister Markham. Please who as 291 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,279 I say, and get myself cute. I'm too attractive to die, I 292 00:23:21,319 --> 00:23:26,079 remember, get yourself somebody else? Uh, Tondo you walk over there? 293 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:33,319 Nor tund walk over there? Tondo afraid? Dondo get cute like mister Hillary 294 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,839 get que According to your theory, Markham, that makes two murter as you 295 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,039 have. It is a little confusing, isn't it, Miss Benton. Yes, 296 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:45,559 mister Markham, please walk over to that spot in the corner. Certainly, 297 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:53,640 Well, here I go, stop Markham. By your reasoning, this 298 00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:57,000 murder was done by missus Duncan and Tondo. Exactly, they worked in collaboration. 299 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:00,799 Missus Duncan water Hillary dead because he wouldn't give a share in the ivory 300 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:03,519 after killing her husband. Tondo helped her because she promised to help him get 301 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:07,720 the ivory back to Africa. Your reason for believing the two of them committed 302 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:11,000 the murder was because neither would walk to a spot where they thought they might 303 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:14,079 be killed, just as Hillary was killed. Yes, only miss Benton didn't 304 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:15,839 refuse to walk over there. In that case, Markham, take my word 305 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:41,640 for it. You can arrest miss Benton or murder. Why shouldn't I have 306 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,200 killed him? What was I supposed to do? Let him kick me all 307 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,720 the rest of my life? Really, he promised me. Thinks now when 308 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:55,680 he got that, I would fractively go out Daniels, same him again. 309 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:02,799 Oh ass did you ever know a man as strong as I was back in 310 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:04,400 the Hillary house? Forget it, my friend, Your theory was excellent. 311 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,480 Really it was well if the murder might have been done the way you said, 312 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:11,079 Only it wasn't, and that doesn't make me feel any better. How 313 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,480 was it done? Man's? First of all, let me tell you why 314 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:15,039 I didn't think it was done your way? Yet? It took too much 315 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:18,519 for granted, in order for your idea to work, Hillary would have had 316 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,920 to be in one particular spot in that room. Well, suppose he never 317 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,880 went to that spot. In that case, he'd still be alive. Only 318 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,759 he'd have found the wire and have none who planted it. Oh no, 319 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,119 Markham, the murderer wouldn't have taken that chance. Apparently not. But tell 320 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,759 me then, why did Tondo and missus Duncan refuse to walk toward that spot. 321 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:40,000 Why shouldn't they refuse. You announced you were going to make them do 322 00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:42,359 just what Hillary did when he was killed. Isn't that enough to make any 323 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:48,000 normal person refuse? Yes? Yes it is. And Donna Benton, knowing 324 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,920 exactly how she killed Hillary, would have no compunction about walking into any corner 325 00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:56,119 that's right. Like to know how the murder was committed, I most certainly 326 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,319 would. Hillary was alive but unconscious when we started with the act on his 327 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,799 door. Miss Benton's confession will tell how she drugged him before he went down. 328 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:07,880 I'm sure of that, if you say so. All right, Hilary 329 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,640 is alive. We broke down the door, then what then? Miss Benton 330 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,880 ran over to where his body was plunged a knife into it while you and 331 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,039 I were fumbling for the light switch. She saw the body in the dark. 332 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,519 Yes, she could see the outline. That was all she needed. 333 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,599 I imagine if we hadn't gotten there, she'd have called the police and would 334 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,480 have done a little knife trick when they broke down the door. Well, 335 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,119 all I can say is, thanks Mance, thanks for figuring this out. 336 00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,839 I have to admit I imagined you would from the very beginning. All I 337 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,640 can say is that I'm glad we're at the end of the Ivory murder case. 338 00:27:53,079 --> 00:28:00,559 Welcome back. Well a solid mystery. Overall, the solution was pretty 339 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:04,640 good. It reminded me of an episode of Monk that had a similar solution, 340 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:11,119 although they didn't have the locked room element in that particular episode. It's 341 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:18,480 a good thing that Markham doesn't understand the concept of being patronized because follow Vans 342 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,000 is there there. Your theory may have been completely wrong and illogical, but 343 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:29,119 it was still a fine theory. Was very patronizing, but I guess Vans 344 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,039 has to do what he's got to do to assuage Markham's ego. Also, 345 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:41,759 Missus Dunkad was my favorite character with her I'm too beautiful to die speech and 346 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,000 the way where she was constantly trying to flirt with Vans, and of course 347 00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:53,359 she went ahead and asserted her rights not to cooperate when Markham said, yes, 348 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,240 this is a facial, but we don't have award and she was like, 349 00:28:56,359 --> 00:29:02,559 okay, bye. And that actually leads me into our listener comments and 350 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,319 feedback. Even though this was regarding an episode of Tales of the Texas Rangers, 351 00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:11,079 it's from Eric and I believe he listens to File Avants as well, 352 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:15,480 and he writes, and this is in regards to the episode Troop Train. 353 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:21,519 He says, it wasn't until the landlord was shown a warrant I realized that 354 00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:25,559 you rarely heard people ask for warrants in old time radio. It was always 355 00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:29,359 just the I'm sergeant, what's his name? I'd like to get into mister 356 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,839 suspect's room, and after the person asking what the suspect did, they let 357 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,240 him in. Even shows like Dragnette rarely had the detectives mention a warrant. 358 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:41,680 Well, we get a mention of a warrant, and it is in that 359 00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:49,559 program that is, of course the definition of realism and grittiness. File Evans 360 00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:55,079 of all places, in addition to tales of the Texas Rangers. I guess 361 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:02,680 I do kind of wonder with printers whether a landlord can allow a search, 362 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,559 particularly, I guess if it's a room in say the landlord's house, like 363 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,599 the whole rooming house situation, like, I wouldn't imagine it would be the 364 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:18,160 case if you were printing a standalone house. However, I do remember one 365 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,960 time a warrant was mentioned in Dragnet In the Big Little Jesus. The desk 366 00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:30,480 clerk when they came in looking for the suspect, said you can go up 367 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:36,240 and search the room. It's okay with us, and Friday said, well, 368 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:41,920 it's not okay with us. So it's an interesting situation. And the 369 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,400 warrant, of course, is really important, although there can be some fine 370 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,240 points to that which lawyers tend to argue about. Well, now we turn 371 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:57,039 to listener comments and feedback, and we start on YouTube with Sasoft's comment regarding 372 00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:02,559 the Chicken murder case and rights. I'm proud to say that nobody has ever 373 00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:06,680 mistaken me for a chicken and that I have no chicken blood in my veins. 374 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,920 Well, good for you. Not everyone can make that claim, as 375 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,839 we learn from the episode, and Betsy rights regarding of the previous episode, 376 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,960 the Sterling murder case. These are ridiculous. I love them. Thanks again, 377 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:25,400 Well, thank you, Betsy. And now we turn to thank our 378 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Patreon supporter of the day. Thank you to Joel, Patreon supporter since August 379 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:37,079 of twenty fifteen, currently supporting the program at the Shamas level of four dollars 380 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,240 or more per month. Thank you so much for your support, Joel, 381 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:44,559 and that will do it for today. If you are enjoying this podcast, 382 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,839 please follow us using your favorite podcast software. 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Four 392 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:31,480 months ago? Anyhow? You have our forwarding address, and no, sir, 393 00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:35,279 I don't. I wish I did. Missus Bradley wrote us a bad 394 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:37,839 check for her rent. We've been trying to locate her. Did you report 395 00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:39,559 it to the police, Yes, sir, I understand she's been quite active 396 00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:47,559 along those lines. They're looking forward too, I hope you'll be with us 397 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,680 then. In the meantime, do send your comments to Box thirteen at Great 398 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,480 Detectives dot and at follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 399 00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:02,799 out on Instagram, Instagram, calm slash, Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. 400 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,880 This is your host, Adam Graham's son and all