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They won five or six in a row, and incredible five games in a
row. And if they win tonight and then they got to Euston coming into
town for four come Monday at midnight, possible. The Reds of being first
place, first place. N FC Cincinnati is undefeated, untied, unscored on
they're in first place. Unbelievable. But until then, of course, the
main streets of Cincinnati had quite a bit of difficulties yesterday afternoon and broad daylight.
It appears fifty nine shots were fired, but there were fifty nine cones.
The police haven't said fifty nine shots, but it was terrible. There
were four shot, three kids and one adult, and appears a couple of
gang bangers in a stolen hun day rolled down the street and tried to kill
an adult, and there was some collateral damage therein plus so much more going
on. Rob Sanders, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Rob,
how are you Willie? I'm doing fantastic. I'm actually gonna have to
go to my first Reds game this weekend. It sounds like these guys are
on fire. This Eli de la Cruz might be called up. If I
can dodge the bullets that are flying all over the place in Cincinnati, I
might enjoy my first Reddy game. I saw lots of windows shot out.
I saw cars, buildings were hit. The mentality, and of course you
deal with the with the backwash of what's happening in Cincinnati, in Covington and
in Kenton County. As far as what we're seeing with the uptick and an
urban violence, in fact violence in many other places, well, when the
residents are interviewed, I heard things like too many guns, that too many
kids have guns, gun control, we need more gun control, that the
basketball courts need better rims, that the pools need to open. By the
way, the pools aren't open, not because of a lack of money.
It's because they can't find lifeguards. Despite the fact that teenagers and young adults
many times have nothing to do, none of them will go through the thirty
two hours of training to learn to be a lifeguard. So do you attribute
a lot of the violence we're seeing throughout Cincinnati, Covington and America to basketball
courts, swimming pools and kids having guns? There might there be something else,
Willie. I think it's criminals, just the fact that some people choose
to break the law. You know. The bottom line is there are there
are too many guns in the hands of children, and there are too many
guns in the hands of criminals. But I don't think that either one of
those things are legal. Already. We already have laws that say felons cannot
have guns. We already have laws that say kids cannot have guns. Neither
one of them are effective right now because we don't have enough enforcement. We
don't have enough felons being kept in jail pending trial. When they were caught
red handed with a gun tucked in their waistband after they've been convicted of a
felony, the police know who it is. It's most likely shooting up the
city. They know who all the bad apples are. It's a very small
percentage of people committing the vast majority of the problems. But the cops take
them off the streets, they lock them up in the jail, and they're
getting right back out and they're doing it all over again. That I think
is what needs to change. We need better judges in Hamilton County. We
need to pay our prosecutors in Hamilton Counting more money so they don't have so
much turnover and you get some good and experienced prosecutors sticking around for a good
long time. It's going on on this out of the river. Don't get
me wrong. We need to pay ours too. But that's a big problem
in prosecution right now is we're not investing in the attorneys that are doing the
work, so they get some experience and they go make a bunch of money
in private practice or working for a corporate law firm or something along those lines.
But there's all kinds of things we can do to enforce the law to
keep the bad guys we know are bad guys locked up in jail where they
can't do anything to cause more hatred and violence and destruction in our communities,
more injury, more hospital bills, you know, people getting shot up.
This is all what we know happens every time the weather gets warm. If
you want to attribute to any one thing, Willie, it's not basketball goals,
and it's not swimming pools. It's that the weather's nice and they're getting
outside, and when they get outside, the getting fights and the thugs and
the gang bangers starts shooting it one another. It happens every year. We
used to have a round up in Covington where the police would take off all
the known drug dealers. You know, they would work their drug investigations all
through the cold months, and then before it got warm out, we would
have a roundup where we went and picked up everybody that had warrants out for
him and so we can make sure that they were locked up when the weather
got warmed, to minimize the chances of these people getting in shootouts with one
another. Apparently, roundups are no longer politically correct, so we don't do
that. We just kind of take them off as we go. But we
still hope to accomplish the same thing of getting all the players, all the
criminal players that is locked up and in jail awaiting trial when it's the summer
months and we're getting into the summer months. But the difference you're seeing nowadays
is Hamilton County is not keeping their violent offenders locked up. Well, we
have half the judges in Hamilty County believe, like Judge Jennifer Branch, believes
that until someone is actually convicted, they belong out on bond. So that
means when the kids are picked up, for the young adults who did the
shooting in and around Grand Park are arrested, if you end up in front
of a judge like Jennifer Branch, they believe half the udges believe in Hamlety
County let him go. We have a juvenile court judge named Bloom who thinks
black men, black boys should not be they're the victims of oppression and they
should not be bound over and tried as adults. And so when you had
these crimes happening with a very small number of individuals and they're out back on
bond, they're incentivized to kill the witnesses. If Tony Bender had committed vicious
murders all over Walnut Street and all of a sudden, he's released on bond
and there's four witnesses against them. Guess what, there's gonna be four dead
bodies in and around Grand Park because that's the way the game is played.
It used to be in Hamlety County that we had very conservative judges who once
you got charged with a serious offense, you had a five hundred thousand dollars
cash only bond, in which case you were locked up and the crime rate
was down. That's not the way it is today. It's not about basketball
courts or swimming. It's about fatherless homes. It's about a corrupt judicial system
to an extent that will not lock up criminals until they're convicted, and even
one they're convicted, there's a sense by some liberal judges that these guys don't
belong in jail because they're a victim of white supremacy. They're a victim of
something else. It's a bunch of bs. Let me ask you a specific
question. You talk about paying for law enforcement. Melissa Powers told me that
a starting prosecutor makes about fifty five thousand dollars a year to work fifty weeks
a year, fifty five thousand bucks to start, and that's after four years
of college, three years of law school. That same law school student could
go work for pack him and squeeze him good or Dewey's cheat him and Howe
or taf Sitenius in Alister and make one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.
And so what does a brand new prosecutor make in Kent County fifty five
thousand dollars Willy straight out of law school. Same thing. They're coming in
with six figures worth of college and law school student loan debt, and they
might come work for me for a little while, because this is greatest lawyer
job on the planet, is being a prosecutor, and because the only place
left you can get trials experience these days, as a prosecutor or a public
defender, you look all over Greater Cincinnati and any place else, and all
your best trial attorneys are all former prosecutors and former public defenders because for the
most part, we're the only ones that try cases anymore. So it's the
only place you can get experience. But they come, they get their experience
for two three years, and they suffer through their fifty five thousand dollars a
year salary. But then that's when they make horrible life decisions, Willie.
They start doing these horrible things like buying a house or getting married or having
a kid, and those things cost money. And when they make those expensive
life decisions, they're gone. They're jumping to the private firms. They're going
into private practice. They're making bank. They're making the money that they always
had hoped to make when they went to law school in the first place.
And they're taking all of our experience and all of our training with them when
they walk out the door. And I'm Sermlisa Powers has the same deal I
do. We're perpetually training brand new lawyers. You know. I'm waiting on
the next Kentucky Bar exam in July because I can't find anybody with law licenses
to fill the vacancies I have in my office, So I have to wait
for these rookie lawyers to pass the bar. Hopefully they pass and I'll be
able to hire a few. And I'm sure Melissa Powers is in the same
boat. It's not her fault. It's government across the United States. We
pay the law school professors, Willie, the people teaching these kids to be
lawyers. They're making well overrun. They're probably over two hundred thousand dollars a
year. Yet the people that are prosecuting rapists and murders and child molesters,
the people that we want to take out the worst of the worst human trash,
we're not even paying them one hundred thousand a year. So that's why
we're losing them all. We're across the board, every jurisdiction, every state
has the same problem. Is we need to invest in public safety. It's
just the same as investing in police, which we're not doing enough of.
It's the same as investing in good judges, which we're not doing enough of,
and investing in good prosecutors has the same outcome for that matter. Really,
i'd even advocate investing more money in public defenders because it's a lot easier
to get cases moving fast and get better outcomes if you have better attorneys for
the criminals. Believe it or not, I'm a prosecutor advocating that we just
don't invest enough money in the criminal justice system across the board. The systems
got to work so we can take out the trash, so we can lock
up the worst of the worst, so we can fix the people that are
redeemable. And it's just really tough to do that when you're constantly looking for
new bodies, when you're constantly having to train these new kids coming out of
law school and experienced prosecutor's been around a while, they can handle two three
times the caseload of a new attorney that just graduated law school. Rob Sanders.
The greatest experience I received number when I was a bailiff in law school.
So I watched trials for four years. And then when I came back
to hammon A County from Toledo Law School, I got a job for two
years in hammon A County Public Defender's office, and I had five trials a
day, five trials a day, five days a week for two years.
Believe me, you try so many cases, you watch them all the best
experience. Now age two, we got bigger issues. I'm looking at a
report out of the City University of New York, the public law school to
lose its funding. According to some after graduating students accused Israel of indiscriminating raining
bullets and bombs on Innis and Palestinians during a commencement speech. Fatima Musa Muhammad,
selected by the law students themselves to be the commencement address one after the
Jews, the Jews are killing Arabs again. I just spent ten days in
Israel, came back on May to twenty fifth. That is a blatant lie.
When I'm in Jewish areas of Israel, I see churches and moss and
synagogues. When I'm an Arab Israel Arab parts of Israel, I see none
of that. But it is acceptable in law schools, especially at Stanford College
of Law, that booed and hissed a Circuit court judge. We also have
the City University of New York having a commences speaker spouting the worst foreign of
anti Semitism. She also said resist signism around the world and stopped the indiscriminate
killing of innocent Palestinian children. She went on and on, and every time
she went on and on about the Jews, the Jews, the Jews,
everyone in this class stood up an applauded her. So it wasn't just Fatima
Musa Muhammad doing that. The entire class supported her. Secondly, Los Angeles
Dodgers are having a night in which the Nuns a perpetual indulgence, which is
a left wing racial hate group against Christians. And Catholics and nuns in particular
are supported by the Dodgers to come on the field at Chavez Ravine and maybe
do a pole dance while Jesus Christ was being crucified on the cross. And
lastly, the white women. I'm watching the view yesterday online last night to
get ready for this interview. Sonny Houston, as an African American lawyer,
said that white women don't have a mind of their own and the white women
are the victim of patriarchy. White women are dominated by their white man who
tend to vote conservative, and that white women are like chattel slaves to white
men. So pick Jews talk about Christians and white women. We're in trouble,
Willie. I don't even know where to start with that one. But
I can assure you of one thing. If anybody wants to know whether a
white woman is dominated by her husband, all I need to do is to
ask my wife. But don't be surprised you end up swallowing your teeth,
because I can assure you there is one person in charge of my household and
it is not me. I a man love to think that I had any
influence whatsoever over her vote, but I can assure you I'm lucky. If
she asked me what do I want to do for dinner tonight? Normally it's
just telling me, this is what you're going to cook me for dinner tonight.
So I don't think there's any issue with that white woman being dominated.
Maybe I just have the one unique wife, Willie. But something tells me
because I know your wife is not dominated by you. Boyman's wife is not
dominated by him. There's the whole flew of guys that work for me that
don't dominate their wise. So I'm pretty confident that the women are doing just
fine, regardless of what race, creator, religion, color, anything else
they are. I think the smart women out there they know who's in charge
and it's not the men. Now that said, apparently Jews and Catholics are
the only two people, only two groups of people in the world that the
media thinks it's okay to just either flat out hate, like this lunatic commencement
speech or speaker at Sunny that the New York Law School, who, in
addition to saying that Jews were raining bombs and bullets down on these poor school
children, also called the NYPD and our great military fascists. I don't know.
Could she just be any more anti American in that speech? Is it
even possible? And then she's applauded even the professors, the law professors,
Diversities Ares, the d EI crowd was going crazy. If Fatima Muhammad saying
what a great, great speech it was, they had no idea how racist,
anti Semitic it was. Because they live in that cesspool. They didn't
realize what she was saying was so wrong. That's if they're in the enablers,
Willie. If she hadn't spent three years in a law school where she
knew that the other students and the professors were going to applaud such hatred in
a speech, she never would have had the nerve to say that in public.
There's just no way that has to be something. And I really think
when it might sound crazy to talk about defunding an entire law school, but
what went on in New York when she gave that speech is so appalling that
that's really I wouldn't consider that out of the realm of legitimate solutions to that
problem. How you fix that hatred and that bigotry that went on at that
school, I don't say it being fixed. And I can imagine if a
white supremacist group got a hold of the Los Angeles Dodgers and said, we
want to come on the field of Chvez Ravine on June the sixteenth, and
we're gonna be wearing black face, singing Mammy, and the Dodgers would say,
you know what, that's a pretty good idea. Let let's do that.
You have the left wing group wearing white face, pretending to be nuns
doing a pole dance on a cross, and supposedly that is acceptable. And
I'm thinking, if I miss something in this world, it's unbelievable. But
all right, Rob Sanders, we gotta run. But I'll tell you what.
We're in trouble because I don't see any movement that anti Jewish hatred is
acceptable, Anti Christian hatred is acceptable, anti white hatred is acceptable. On
national television, if you change the races of Sunny Houston's comment about white women
and said black women, all hell would have broken loose with the Jews.
I can't imagine an acceptable speech. So in a Semitic calling Jews murderers,
mass murderers and extinguishers, I can't imagine the opposite occurring. And they're not
being a visceral reaction, but they swim an assess pool of leftism. Therefore
is acceptable, Rob Sanders, once again, maybe Friday night the Zach Brown
Band first pitch about five ten to give time for Zach Brown ninety two degrees.
All Hell's breaking loose, Rob Sanders, thank you for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show, and we'll do it again. Thank you, Rob Willie,
thank you for having me enjoy this beautiful weekend. And well, if
nothing else, if we ever need good Dodgers tickets, I guess we'll know
to call the Sisters of a Perpetual Indulgence and see if they can help us
out. But thank God, that craziness is not going on here in Cincinnati.
God bless the Reds. I think Bob Castellini's sisters a none, so
I tend to think that I don't think that would happen here. I'm not
sure, but I don't think so. You say a lot of things about
the Castellane's, but I don't think you can say they'd put up with any
nonsense like that. They're not people. They are good people. Thank you
very much, Rob, thank you. Let's continue with more once again.
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