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what's up? Everybody. Welcome to our very special Thursday show, and we
have a very special guest in studio. In fact, she was a guest
like ten years ago when she was eight nine, and now we have Lbi.
She's a woman who's eighteen. I saw you walk through the gate.
You look like a mini Stephanie. I know you look just like your mom,
so cute. I just wanted to I had to give you a big
hug. I'm so happy you're Here's so everybody's gonna be happy. I listen
to this. Everybody's been like wanting to hear from you. You the last
time when you were on the show, you talked about anxiety and it was
a big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember you was just
a little baby. I know you shared your whole your journey with your cool
therapist who gave you a bunch of tools and you kind of shared them with
the audience and the audience was like, oh my gosh, this was so
helpful. And I played it for my kid, and you helped a lot
of people feel less alone. Yes, that makes me very happy, happy
here. Yeah, well, now we can like talk about what you've been
doing since then. It's been a lot, it's been a lot ten years.
Yeah, so yeah you first of all, you were noticing something about
her face. Yes, I right before the show, I was like,
I love your nose ring. It's so flipping cute. It looks so good
on you. I thank you. I have to say, because some of
these kids these days, they get that one that goes from one side to
the sept septem. Yeah, and I'm a big fan. I like that
what you got. It's really simple and it's dainty and so cute. I
don't know if I could pull off a septem. I have a lot of
friends, I have symptoms. They're cute on other people. I don't think
it would ever work on me. But yeah, I know I got.
I really wanted my nose pierced. And it was really funny because I've been
talking about wanting one for a super long time. But at my job they
were like, like the day I started training, they were like, no
like nose piercings or anything like that, or tattoos. And I was like,
Okay, so maybe I'll like hold off because I don't want to get
in trouble. And then a couple of months after I started working there,
I have like three different co workers who are just walking around with those piercings
and nobody says anything, and like some of my other coworkers have tattoos,
and I was like, well, no, I really wanted those piercings.
Like now I've really tempted because like clearly nobody actually cares, like I think
they just say that, but they don't really enforce it. But then over
the summer I was like, okay, like whatever, I go to camp
and I come back and my sister has a nose piercing and I was like,
oh, like she got it before me. I was like, now
I really need to get my nose pierced. You know. It's it's interesting
because from what I've known about you is that you're a basic bitch. That's
true. It's I will never fail to admit that you had my basic bitch
car. I wear my base. It's true. But then you got a
little nose ring, which is you know, a little edgy. It's still
basic. Yeah, it is right. It gives it gives a little flair,
you know. Yeah, when she was little, this whole basic bitch
thing started when she was pretty young, because Sadie was like, I want
to make my hair pink, right and yes, And I was like,
oh my god, what are the other mom's gonna think? Like nobody was
having colored hair this way before that. So I take Sadie into Floyd's.
We do the a little a pink streak on both sides, and Elbe's like,
such the rule follower, it's so basic. But she's like, oh
god, I kind of maybe remember I got pink too. I got a
stripe of pink in the front, and then I decided to spice it up
for some reason, and I got a one pink strip just in the back
of my hair, but it wasn't centered. It was like a little bit
off to the side so that it kind of like blended, you know.
But I remember it faded and then I did like a bright green. I
don't really know what made me choose that, because it was not a good
color. It was not a flattering color, but I liked it. And
then it kind of faded out, and then I got called coffee head for
a little bit, you know, because I had the one like kind of
it wasn't like a bleached streak. At this point, it was kind of
just more like a light light brownish blonde and then it faded. But then
I dyed my hair red. You did you did do that? I was
a little too scared to bleach my head though, so I just did it
over my highlights and it was like a temporary thing and then it watched out.
It was like it was like a semi permanent dye, I want to
say. We went to Sally's and we just picked it up up and I
did all my research on TikTok, of course, and I was like,
oh, so there's this one. It's like high color highlights and I can
put it on brown hair. And I was like, and it'll look great
because I already have highlights, so it'll like stick to the blonde. And
it was more red than I even expected, Like it was it was kind
of like a reddish tint in the dark. But then when I went into
the sun, it looked like I had bright red hair. Like I have
pictures on my phone that I show people and they're like, you didn't have
red hair, and I'm like, oh, yes I did. I'm like,
yes I did, And did you like it? I did? I
really liked it. Actually, I had no regrets. I was really happy
with it. I think I was really scared because I did it on like
a weekend, and then I went to school on Monday, and I was
like, oh my god, oh God, like what's gonna happen. But
everybody was like, oh my god, you're ready. It's so cool.
And then I think I did it again. I think I re dyed it
over quarantine, like like right after it faded. It wasn't like I spread
it out. It was like right after it fade it, I was like,
I want to do it all more time. And then I did it,
and then I just kind of let it fade. And then now you're
all black. Now I'm like your mama exactly. For big chances nowadays are
like cutting bangs. Yeah, I want a little shorter on the bang.
You look, I mean, you really look so much like your mom when
she was young, don't you think, steveny she does. She looks so
much like you look so much like her. I just feel like it's almost
becoming an insult though, because now I'm so much older, like I do.
If you look at pictures of me when I'm young, yeah, I
think we did a comparison. We found a baby picture of my mom and
a baby picture of me, and I like showed people. I was like,
what's the difference, and they were like, I actually don't know which
one is. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, like I think we were
both two in the picture. Yeah, there's one of those. And I
even have one from like four where we just look exactly so because in the
picture too, we have the same haircut. And I made sure when I
did the comparison, I made my black and white because it was white.
I did a little comparison. We have like the same like like short bob
yeah bangs, and you look identical. It's it's kind of interesting that she
picks the same hairstyle that you. Yeah, cute, it's very cute.
But I'm trying to think at what age, like because you've always been such
a rule follower. Yeah, do you think it's the rule following aspect of
you that makes you like basic? I'm have you thought about this? I
haven't really put too much thought into this. I've kind of just like accepted
it as how it is. You know, like I'm basic. That's that's
how it's going to be. But like every single time I bring that up
to people that they're like, no, no, You've got so matched to
you. And I'm like no, but I'm like, don't, don't try
to don't try to make me feel better. I've already accepted it. I've
already internalized it. I'm basic like, I gotta be proud, I gotta
I gotta be rud about it, you know. I wonder I feel like
maybe the roots of it are that you don't you you've never from the anxiety
I think from when you were young. You don't like to stand out so
ut like too much of an individual streak. Yeah, You're like, oh,
people are going to notice me, and I like following the trends.
Yeah, glad, I'm proud. I will go and I'll be like,
oh my god, so many people are doing this, but it's really cute,
so I'm gonna do it too. Like a trend is a trend,
like no shame in your game. I love it. I have a question
because it's you're such a rule follower. How do you feel sometimes when you're
with your mom, like at the doctor's office and she's given them the business
and you gotta like kind of stand like does it because I remember when I
was a kid, I was my mother was so you know, overbearing.
She would argue with people, not saying that Stephanie does that, but she
does kind of like you know push, you know, yeah does it?
How do you feel? Are you fine with it? Or do you get
a kick out of it? I in my head will be like stop stop,
like it's fine. But then in the end she's like, see,
like it didn't do anything. They're not mad at me, Like, and
I got what I got, I got my ship done. Yeah, but
I can do that, like like I have a thing where I'll go I
have anxiety go into restaurants with like big groups of my friends because they're all
like like they will all be like, oh, like like talking over each
other and stuff, which is fine, Like I just don't think they realize
it. But me sitting there being the anxious person I am, I'm like,
all right, guys, one by one, everybody gotta say what you
want, Like we have to have to make it as the least I don't.
I don't know how to say this, like the least annoying, Yeah,
as possible, just because I'm like I don't want any I don't want
anybody to be mad, Like I don't want anybody. But it definitely like
when when I'm out and other people are like getting up in people's business,
I'm like, oh my god, like I'm just gonna I'm gonna step back.
I'm gonna step back and let that happen. And I'm not going to
participate. I Am not gonna I'm gonna pretend that it's not happening. What
I what I what? I can't see you can't hurt me, right,
la la la, I can't hear you. I will literally like it will
happen. It'll happen in like restaurants or whatever, and like it's happened with
like friends too, and I'll just kind of like wander off. I'll be
like, oh wow, this pair of jeans is really cut. Oh god,
I just noticed them, even though I walk past like six times earlier
in the store. But yeah, definitely definitely stems from anxiety, I'd say,
yeah, and like that just just not wanting to be the auto one
out, you know, sure, I get that. Also, I feel
like you have a thing of which I have recognized in you, which is
just the unknown. You don't like to do anything that you've never done before.
Absolutely not. It's right. It's a no go for me. Like
like, I'm yeah, I remember when you were little and you were,
you know, at the beach and you were afraid of tsunamis and stuff like
that. I love the beach Now I love the beach. I will go
swimming in the beach. Except I kind of with the beach. I went
from hating the beach to like loving the beach. Like I went to surf
camp and instead of surfing, like I got bored of surfing. At some
point, I was like, can I just swim? Can I just go
swim in the surf tide? And they were like, yeah, in hindsight,
they should not have done that because I did almost drown. But I
had a great time doing it and I was swimming in these giant waves.
Now when I go to the beach, I will go swimming, but I
gotta make sure I can stand because I don't like looking below me and see
anohing down there. So I like being able to stand. Although I will
go farther out, I don't really care. But that's amazing. Can we
I want to ask you about anxiety? Yeah, like, because I feel
like, well, you know I don't live with you, but it seems
like you've gotten a good handle on it through years since then. Definitely,
I do think it like comes and goes a little bit, like there will
be periods of like months or even like a couple of years where it's not
as bad and it's not as like overbearing in my life. I'd say recently,
just with all the college stuff, definitely has come back up more than
I wish it did. But I feel like overall, I'm also just kind
of like self aware about it. I want to say, like I know
why it's happening a lot of the time, which is definitely helpful, is
like kind of understanding why it's going on rather than just kind of being in
the dark and being like I feel this way, but I don't know what's
causing it. I don't know why, so I don't know how to fix
it. It's like, well I do, and like I can't really stop
it from happening, but I can stop it from getting to a point where
it's just like that's a how do you do that? Did they did you
in therapy? Did you learn? Like I definitely think therapy as like an
eight year old or a nine year old was super helpful because I don't remember
obviously a lot of the stuff she said, like in the moment, but
like it definitely just helped me become more aware of it and kind of just
get a better understanding of it in general. And so like even my mom
will just be like, hey, do you think that it's happening because of
this? And I'll just have this like aha moment in my head where I'm
like, oh, like I'm definitely stressing about this, and like I hate
change, same with like it's the same thing with the unknown. Hate change.
Can't do it. Love everything to be the same unless it's something that's
clearly good change, And then I'm like, oh, but like if it's
something where I don't know what's going to come out of it, like I
don't know whether it's going to be good or bad, I hate it and
like it gives me lots of anxiety, and so I think it's just good
for me to know, Like, hey, I also tend to what's the
word catastrophize. I tend to catastrophize a lot, and so I kind of
just have to take it down in my head and I'm like, hey,
you gotta remember you hate change, and this is change, Like, this
is what's going on. And you're also probably got a gaslight myself a little
bit like you're you're being too dramatic, like you're you're catastrophizing right now.
And then obviously it doesn't like fully remedy it like I'm not just like oh,
like no more. But it helps me to get a grasp on like
what I'm feeling a little bit. You know, God, that's amazing,
Elbee, I'm so proud of you. Thank you. Wow, so insightful.
Oh, let's take a quick break. I'm gonna have Natalia listen to
this. Yeah, let's take a break. Okay, we're back. I
think, like, what does it feel like though, when you're feeling anxiety?
Do you feel like because you have had some really big disappointments, yeah,
you know, starting last year, yeah, and year, And does
it feel like when you start getting anxious, does it feel like it's about
that or does it feel like it's just you just don't know what it's about.
So sometimes I'll feel like it'll start from that and then the problem with
my anxiety is it'll kind of just start to latch onto other things that didn't
make me anxious before, so like even when I was younger. It started
with the beach, and then from there it just latched onto other things that
I hadn't really been concerned about before, like being by myself. It started
where when I was in a parking lot and my mom would go put a
cart away, I could not sit in the car for twenty seconds by myself
because I was so anxious, which that was not a problem before, but
because I started being anxious about the other thing, then I was like,
oh, well now I'm anxious about this. Now I'm anxious about this,
And I think it still kind of applies where like I'll start being anxious about
one thing, and then other small things that didn't really bothered me before won't
even like make me super anxious, but I'll notice that I get a little
more tense in other situations just because I started being anxious about that one thing,
So like, I don't know, it just kind of it kind of
spreads almost, which sucks, right, yeah, right, which is normal
when that happens. For sure. I want to talk about the college thing
because I feel like a lot of parents, you know, we were going
through it together and not that it was happening to me. But you know,
we were obviously having a lot of talks about like get on those applications
and having some power struggles with that. And you had taken a lot of
really hard classes. You know, you've been building building your schedules since you
were pretty young. Yes, and we you had that college counselor, right,
and like tell me a little bit, like just from your perspective,
yeah, like what was the pressure like at school? Like how are other
people handling it? It was It was definitely really difficult, just because the
around the environment around me at school was so competitive and so like it felt
like a lot of pressure because nobody wanted to talk about it. But at
the same time, everyone was talking about it, so like within my friend
group, it wouldn't be like a conversation where we'd be like, how are
your college applications going? Like nobody would do that. Nobody was like like,
That's why it was hard for me because sometimes I didn't really know what
was going on because my friends just didn't really talk about it. But at
the same time, everybody was like, oh, I want to go here.
I took all these classes to get into here. So in my head.
I was like still comparing myself to everybody, and I was like,
oh God, like I took all these crazy classes and I like ap physics.
I know, it's literally tortured myself in high school over all these classes.
And then at the same time, I was like, well, this
person took this many classes, and I have a feeling that they're going to
get into these schools, So what if I don't get into this one,
which definitely made it a little bit more pressure in terms of college applications.
And then I thought I had a lot of time, which in hindsight,
it's not that much time for like I don't know how to phrase this,
It's not it's not enough time for what you're going to be doing in the
future, like like you have like three months to collect everything that you need
to get into your possibly next four or five years of school. And I
think going into it, I was like, ah, like, everything's not
due till November. It's only August, Like and what were your friends,
Like, were you kind of like that way we're doing a thing. I
am in a group full of procrastinators, so I didn't feel as was like
inclined to jump on it because I want to say. I know probably like
eight or nine people that started their U SEE applications the day it was due.
Wow. I didn't do that. Thankfully, thanks to my mother,
I submitted them like a week early, which it was definitely a lot of
pressure at the time, but I was feeling so relieved when everybody was coming
into school being like, oh my god, I just wrote my essays at
three in the morning, right and they are due the next like at night
the following day, and I had already had mind done for like a week,
but it was just like everybody was waiting to do theirs, and so
I was like, oh, so, even though I was kind of like
on time for mine, I felt ahead of everyone, which is which kind
of sucks because I was like, well, like my mom would be like,
you need to submit this now, and like you're you're not ahead.
But then in my head I'd be like, well, everybody else hasn't even
started this, so I'm the only one that's done it, which means I'm
ahead, when in reality I was just like, oh, I think everybody's
kind of just like slacking a little bit, which, you know, it
worked out for a lot of people. A lot of people that I know
got into great schools. But I think also I tend to work better under
pressure, yes, and so I was kind of waiting for the moment to
be like, oh, I really got to get on this, and then
I would focus. Focus. It's hard for me to focus if I'm not
under pressure. Like at school, I did do a lot of my work
ahead of time, but there was also a lot of work that I would
like come to me like the day before, and then I'd be like,
all right, well now I'm forced to do this, and so I write
like my best work possible because I was so like laser focused on getting it
done and it usually worked. But you know, right, I feel like
everybody's like that. I say, I know, I wait till the last
minute to do stump and then and then I just get it done. And
yeah, horrible rastinator, especially if it's something you don't want to do.
Yeah, you know, or I know you're like this too, elbe,
But like the critical voice comes in if you have too much time, you
get too much time to like play or hate yourself and yeah, like oh
this isn't good. Yeah, but if you just have to get it done,
you're like, Okay, that's exactly what I would do. And it's
so funny because I write a lot of essays like that, where I'll be
like, oh God, Like I have an essay, it's done a week,
it's fine, and then I'm like five days go by and I'm like,
oh my god, I have to turn this essay in. I really
got to start it. And so instead of sitting there working on it every
single day for a week and being like, oh god, this sentence sounded
like shit, like I gotta get rid of it, I just kind of
sit down. I'm like, all right. Instead of focusing a sentence by
sentence, I'm like, okay, do you think I can get two paragraphs
done in twenty minutes? Like let's let's sit down and make a goal and
then I'll just like speedwrite it and then i'll go back with whatever time I
have, which is usually time, and I'll be like okay, and i'll
six stuff later. So great that your mom is a right exactly like and
has she helped you, Like yeah, especially with college stuff too, Like
with the college applications, I read them all to my mom and she like
helped me out with all of them, which was a super, super super
big help, because honestly, it made me feel more confident about some of
them because I was like, oh, well, you know, yeah,
I got a second opinion, right, and she likes them, and I
like what I wrote, so that means it's probably well written, you know.
Yeah, let's hope fingers crossed. Yeah, but yeah, well,
rewriting is the worst part. So she didn't like to hear when I would
have notes. But when you would make some adjustments, sometimes you'd be like,
oh it just because I I would write something down and I really liked,
Like I'd have this thing in my head where I was like, oh
my God, like he's gonna be the best thing I've ever written, Like
I have so many ideas, like and I write them all down. And
then what was the what was the word? A minimum like three hundred and
fifty words and I'd have one p i Q and it was like seven hundred
words, and I was like, oh, I gotta get rid of like
two thirds of this for a personal and personal insight question, which is the
applications. Yeah, and you had to write four of those and each of
them where I want. I'm guessing I think they were like three hundred three
fifty words, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't really know about that.
And I have one that was like, I don't know, like six
hundred words, and I was like, oh god, I have to cut
like half of this out. And then my mom would be like, hey,
like, I think you can shorten this part or cut this out,
and she'd like say she'd be like, hey, like, I don't.
I don't really think we like need this sentence, and it would be like
my favorite sentence in the way, I really want to keep it in.
But then once it was gone and like I kind of restructured the whole thing,
I'd be like, oh, this definitely sounds a lot better, like
in the end, once it was all corrected and shortened. But can I
because I'm going through this now, you know. Yeah, I had two
of them. What time of year were you doing this? Do you remember?
I'm just curious. Definitely. I was working on everything for the majority
of October, I would say, because the deadlines. So I did the
common app and the UC applications, and the Common app had all different due
dates, like some schools needed supplementals before, but a lot of stuff was
due either November first. I had one that was due I think the fifteenth,
and then all the ucs are do November thirtieth, and so for the
majority of October. And I want to say I kind of started thinking about
what I wanted to write about in August like a year ago today. Yeah,
I started kind of like debating about like, oh, like do I
want to write about this or do I That's where I'm at right now,
But then I don't think I actually sat down and started writing anything until September.
I want to say, at least yeah, yeah, Well, my
kids are not in AP classes. They know they're not they're not LB's,
but yeah, they got it. I'm like, I want them to be
early with it. I want them waiting to the last minute. I would
say that I regret not doing it earlier because it was just really stressful in
the end, just knowing like, oh my god, I have like a
week to write all of this, like I really need to finish it.
I would definitely say doing it earlier would have saved me so much, because
then I would have also felt I felt really good about the essays I submitted,
but in the end I would read them and I'd be like, oh,
well, if I had more time, I probably would have caught this
and like I want to change this, and I just I wish I had
a little more time to like read over everything. And also it's super stressful
getting everything else together, Like you have to figure out all your supplemental and
then you have to figure out or like the extra Different schools will give you
different essay prompts. Like you write one main essay. It's called your common
app essay. A lot of schools except the common app right, right,
you know what that is, right, It's one application. It goes you
can send it to a lot of different schools, but each school has like
it's tricky because each school will be like, well we want to know we
have we have this other essay that's like why do you want to go to
this school? All of the schools will give you a supplemental and it's basically
the same question worded differently. So it's like what is a trait of yours
that you feel like would fit in at the school or something like that.
Like usually the supplementals are just them wanting to be a little more personal and
just like ask you why would you fit in at their school? In particular?
And I had a couple of those that I had to write. But
then on top of that, I don't think that people realize because I definitely
did not realize going in to the common app or the UC application, you
have to write individually about all of your extracurriculars. Like I going into it,
I was like, that's gonna be easy, Like I'm just gonna write
down what I did, what my position was, and what year. No,
they asked you to write a description about what you did, like you
got to make a full list, Like I had to do everything on a
separate document. Her my college counselor asking me to do that, which was
definitely helpful, But I had no idea that, like the extracurriculars and all
that type of stuff, that was a whole separate process that I was just
like not realizing, right, going to happen, right, And then not
to mention the you have to ask your teachers for letters of recommendation, and
then to do that you have to write a bragsheet. Yeah, they can't,
they don't know, they don't know who's going to a big school.
So she had to write a whole separate thing talking about herself. Of that
different teachers want a different like from then on top of that, to my
disappointment, ucs don't even take them. So I was like, dang,
I gotta get all these for like two schools man, Like I'm applying to
University of Oregon Washington. I was like, the majority of the schools I
want to go to don't even take these. So is it different? Out
of state? All different? So it's like out of states or basically how
it works is at least for me, there was three different applications. There
was the uc application, which is just the p i q's. It's one
application for all how many ucs are there, nine eight or nine UC's.
Then there's the common app which is basically all out of state schools, like
every single school. Harvard's on the common app like all the IVY Leagues,
all of those type of schools. But then all the just like University of
Oregon because on the same application as Harvard, they're all on the same one.
And there's and then there's the cal State or the CSU application. That
was the easiest one because you don't have to write any essays for that.
You just have to put in a bunch of information. So you have to
put in just like extracurriculars, grades, right, like just kind of like
financial situation, all the all the normal college stuff. But you don't have
to write any essays, which I wish I did because I did not get
into the CSU as I applied to and I feel like I probably could have
if they took essays, right, but her essays were so good. I
bet. So she wanted to go to school in California, right, This
is I've talked about this on the podcast before, but I want to hear
it from your point of view. So you decided, like I really know
what I want. I want to go to a UC, which a lot
of your friends did. Yeah, but we didn't know, which I think
just played a huge part. Because she took ten aps in school, It's
insane, a very rigorous schedule. She got great grades. I know,
she never got a C. The kids never seen. See. She was
like all very hard worker. Yeah, had plenty of extracurriculars, camp counselor,
lots of volunteer hours. The thing that freaking tripped her up, which
we didn't know, was that she applied for psychology and who would have known.
Yeah, certain majors are impossible. It was definitely disappointing because I knew
that I was a competitive like applicant, but I also know that a lot
of people applying to UC's were more competitive than me, which is fine,
Like, I'm very happy with the amount that I was able to put onto
my application because I also feel like I had a really good social life and
like I got to do a lot of fun stuff during high school, so
I didn't feel like I had to like dedicate my whole life to school.
But I was also still like doing well. But in like, on the
other hand, a lot of people were like I volunteered at six different hospitals,
and I have three jobs and I play seven instruments, and I was
like, speak, man, there's always do that. And a lot of
people I didn't realize applied to psychology because it's just such like a it's like
a versatile right, Like I don't want to say easy, because it's not
easy at all, but like it's interesting, And a lot of people I
did not realize applied to psychology, And I was like, looking up online,
I was like, why does it say that psychology is like the most
impacted major at like two thirds of the schools that I applied to, and
so that kind of had me worrying. I was like, oh god,
like if I applied to I don't want to see an easier major, but
just like a lesser applied to one. There's like a top eight. There's
like the eight most popular major. It's like engineering, computer science, psychology,
educations, right, which I didn't know, And I was like,
dang, like I feel like missed opportunity. I wish I looked through other
majors to be like, oh, well, this one also seems interesting.
I feel like I would be happy if I applied with this major, and
like a third of the people are applying to this major and to psychology.
So that was definitely like the worst disappointment is a nobody said nobody. Nobody
said anything. They were like, yes, like psychology is a great one,
like go for it. But I was not warned, like I was
even yeah, I was even no heads up being like hey, just letting
you know a lot of people want to apply to psychology. And on top
of that, I want to be a therapist. Like obviously I'm very open
to like exploring careers in college, but since I was younger, I've been
like I definitely know that I am interested in a career in psychology. I
didn't know that I don't have to major in psychology to do that, and
nobody tells you that. Like everybody's like, oh, you want to be
a computer scientist, you got a major in computer science. Like you want
to be a therapist, you got a major in psychology or social work.
I didn't know that until I talked to a counselor at my community college that
I'm going to, and she's like, yeah, girl, Like I'm majored
in dance, like my therapist majored in dance. Dude, Like, you
can go to grad school. You don't have to do a major that interests
you and is not going to take up all your time because you just have
to do well. You don't have to do well in a subject that's exactly
targeted towards your career goal. Just do something you like you can do well
in it. Brittany, she majored in criminal psychotic criminal psychology. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean it's so what would you have picked? What would
you have picked instead? Honestly, my major now that I'm going into Pierced
with Pierce College is sociology, which is like a similar major, but it's
a little bit more laid back and kind of gets more of my interests,
like because I am genuinely interested in psychology, Like that's one of the major
reasons I was doing it is because I was like, I really like what
I learned and what I study. Like I took AP psychology hard class.
Yeah, I loved the material, like loved it. It was super interesting.
I was I liked being in that class because I was like, oh,
like this is interesting stuff. But I feel like sociology kind of like
targets some of that but also is more interesting. And also I'm more of
like the social science part of psychology Rather then I didn't realize that I really
wanted to go to UC Santa Barbara, And in hindsight, I'm kind of
glad I did not get in with that major because I didn't realize that the
major is psychology and brain sciences, so it's like the neuroscience like have to
take chemistry, biology, physics part rather than sociology, where I can literally
take sociology classes and they're like you're solid, Well, I wouldn't know what
you're what. I want to hear more about this Let's take a quick break,
because I want to know where your next steps are. This this ins
aspiring. Let's take a quick break, and we're back with Elby. Hello.
I feel like I'm in like therapy. I feel like, you know,
she's amazing, So everybody interesting that we all cried. I cried.
I probably cried on the show when you started breaking getting disappointed about college,
even though I didn't even go to college. I don't know if you know
about Alby, I mean you see like it did. I wouldn't worry about
it too much. I mean, listen from in my mind. You know,
John and I have different approaches, but he is like college all the
way, you really need to go to college. But then I feel like
between the two of us, I ended up having to kind of be the
heavy yeah not college because he didn't want to be to like to your hardcore.
So Elby and I feel like had some of some of our most tense
yea months because I felt like I had to be like on her all the
time and she didn't want me to be on her all the time, and
I didn't know how to parent, like I didn't genuinely didn't know whether to
what what am I doing the right thing by forcing it all the time.
Should I should I just let her do her thing? But in hindsight,
LB, are you glad that she? Oh? Yeah, because in my
head I was like I feel like I kind of got it down. And
that's why I would sometimes get frustrated because I was hearing about it all the
time, and I was like, because the problem is what I don't even
think my mom realizes that even though my friends like didn't talk about it,
I was still getting asked about it by a lot of other people. So
like she would ask me about it a lot, but not as much.
But to me, it was like, oh my god, she's asked me
about it once today, but I've heard about it four times today already,
So it would kind of all be like blurry in my head, and I
was like, oh my god, I just feel like this is like all
I get asked about, Like like, ah, I cannot I would just
get so frustrated because I was like, I literally cannot hear this anymore.
I understand, like I get it, like I need to do it,
especially at your age. But I was just also like my teachers they don't
give a fuck, like they do not care. They don't care how your
college applications are going. They care about their class and that's it. So
on top of that, I had teachers assigning me all this work attending like
college applications did not exist, and so I was having a billion different people
going are you doing your applications? How your applications going? You need to
start your applications. And then on top of that, I was having a
pe teachers being like, hey, we have a test on Monday. You
have six assignments. Do Friday. If you fail, you fail the class.
Like that was like my physics teacher did not do well in physics.
I will say that that was not my best class first see ever second semester
of physics. But it was definitely just like super frustrating because and like it
wasn't even my mom's fault because she was just she was just trying to help
me out, which in the end I appreciated so much because I definitely even
though I feel like I had it on lock, I feel like I would
not have gotten it done at least in the amount of time that I did.
Like I definitely feel like if I had not had her being like,
how are your applications, going like you need to sit down and do it.
Then I would have been one of those people up at three in the
morning going, oh my god, I thought even what got it done?
It didn't get done right until I was like the first time ever being like,
well, then you're not leaving the house until you do. Yeah.
No, I got grounded. Yeah. I basically got grounded, which was
horrible, but also I did get a lot of work done in that time.
And then I was like, oh, like you felt better, but
you didn't get grounded in the like, Okay, you did something wrong.
You No, I just got graveled, Like until you do this, then
you can then I can go right, Yeah, exactly. No. I
remember I was like, oh my god. Like that. That was when
it really set in because my dad came in and he was like, yo,
you're not doing it. You haven't made enough progress. You're not going
out. But Dad gave me a day. He was like, you don't
leave until Monday. Oh that's why. I was like, well, what
if I get get it done before then? And he was like no,
good. But then you were like, just get it done and you can
leave. And I was like, but that's it. That I can't go
until Monday. It's only Friday, like I got I think. I got
home from school and he's like, all weekend until Monday. You don't go
until Monday. And I was like, I can you even picture him talking
to you like that? I didn't. I didn't exactly like that. But
he came in and he's like, elbs, you gotta get it done.
He's like you. I don't know what he said, but he basically was
just like it needs to get done. Like yeah, but that's you know,
our job. Yeah. No, And like I understood, like from
my perspective as a teenager who I had work and other plans. I mean,
I went to work obviously, but I had other plans. I was
like, oh my god, like seriously, like it's not. But then
she was like, no, I'm good. I got my essays done and
you read them to me and I was like wait what what? Yeah?
And they were not good the first draft of like she was like, I
wrote half of this one and I wrote this one's done and I was like,
no, it's not. Yeah, But then I sat with her in
her room. Yeah. We sat there for like hours and we like rewriting
them and she got them done and they were amazing. Okay, so we
go through all this, we have these power struggles. She does all this
work, she's taken all these classes, and then rejections breaks. It gives
me a stomach ache. Yeh, it breaks my heart. It was horrible
because I don't understand it either. Honestly, it really sucked because, as
I said before, a lot of people weren't talking about college applications, but
oh my god, were people talking about where they got in. Like I
went to school and I remember my first horrible disappointment. It kind of like
just built up. So the first school I got waitlisted at University of Washington,
and that kind of gave me some help because I was like, well,
this guy who, by the way, spoiler alert ended won't to Yale
at my school got rejected from Washington, and I was like, if I
can go a way listed, it's all good. Like it's probably not gonna
be It's probably not gonna be that bad. Does it happen all on like
on a Sunday night where everybody all the schools coming at different times, right,
So University of Washington came in first, or Oregon came in first.
I got into the Honors College at University of Oregon, and I was like,
whoa, Like, yeah, got into school. That was exciting,
and then you got into like cal State. She turned into an application for
cal State, so not mama, cal State, NOMA and like got accepted
like the next day or literally literally two days later. They were like,
wow, you're a seat. What is it seahawk or I don't know what
it is. They were like literally here, you don't like trees, Oh,
I'll get into that, but I uh so you started getting Washington.
Washington wait listed me. And then the first you see that came out was
UC Davis. And UC Davis is a good school, but if you go
to a competitive high school, UC Davis is like the worst you see to
get into. Like like people were making like tier lists of ucs and they
were like, okay, Berkeley and UCLA are at the top, and then
it's like Irvine, and then it's like San Diego and then Santa Barbara and
then Santa Cruz and oh, then Davis, then Santa Cruz, then Riversidemer
said, and so I got rejected from Davis and everyone and their moms were
posting, whoo, I'm an Aggie, Like I got into UC Davis and
like some people from my school, not any of my friends obviously, but
like there were some people from my school that took like two aps one ap
got fine raids, but just applied to a stupid major and got in.
And I was like, oh my god, dude, I busted my ass
in high school and I just got rejected from Davis. One of her friends
got waitlisted, who obviously we won't mention any names, but one of her
friends, who really was not a try hard great and yeah but a very
not a popular major got waitlisted. Was like what? And the problem was
I was trying so hard to like stay hopeful, but the second I got
rejected from Davis, I was like, dude, if that's like one of
the bottom tier schools in the UCCI applied to which no offense. If anybody
went to Davis, I think it's a good school. I wasn't very excited
to get into Davis, but I was just like with the environment that I
was in and all these people like spoiler alert people in my class, in
my economics class, multiple people got into Ivy League schools, Like the kid
that I sat across from that is my friend got into Harvard. Two kids
in my class got into Brown. Were these AP kids? Yea, these
were AP kids, but I'm saying I was surrounded by them, like I
was quote unquote one of them the right and then here I am. Every
single person in my class was like, congrats if you guys got into Davis
and I was like, god, I got rejected, and then tell me
And then I remember the worst day is UCLA, Irvine, and San Diego
all came out on the same day at the same time, and I was
like, well, you know what, it's fine because I don't really want
to go to any of those schools. I did want to go to UCLA,
but I wasn't aiming for UCLA, so I kind of I was like,
well, I don't really want to go to San Diego, I don't
really want to go to Irvine, and I am not expecting anything from UCLA,
so I'm going to be fine if I get rejected. But of course,
in my head I was still like, well maybe if I get unto
San Diego, like or fine, that'll be great. I opened them all
within five minutes, three straight rejection, and I was telling myself, I
was like, it's fine. And then I started crying and I was like,
god, like, it really sucks, even though I wasn't aiming for
any of these schools, Like it sucks, it's terrible. And then Santa
Cruz came out. I did get into Santa Cruz, but I really did
not want to go to Santa Cruz, like from the get go. I
I'm gonna be honest, I'm not really sure why I applied because I never
was excited about that school right. Never. I was never like, oh,
if I get into Santa Cruz, I'm going to Santa Cruz like was
never. So a lot of people that listened to our podcast were you know,
they think they know better, and they were just like, why would
she not like Santa Cruz. That's a great school, Like she has a
great option there. So but you have your own mind, yes, like
please tell people. Of course, me as your mom, am I gonna
be like, nope, You're going to Santa Cruz. Like, no,
you're eighteen years old, but you can decide where you want to go to
school. So my outlook on Santa Cruz was not me being like, oh,
it's not as academically known as the other schools. I don't care.
I do not care, Like that's fine. It's a UC, it's automatically
a good school. Yeah, I got into a UC. That was great.
It's just the campus and just like all that type of stuff. Like
I really had my heart set on going to a school in like a Baker
city with like lots of stuff to do. Like I love living in La
I love it because there is always stuff to do, there's always people here.
I'm like surrounded by a lot of people. It's my love for being
around people. Like it started like me wanting to go to a big high
school, right, Like I was like, I do not care if it's
scary, if it's a big change, I want to go to a big
high school. And it was the same. I was like, I really
want to go to a big college and I love going to camp, but
I like my nature in small doses. Like I was like, okay,
you know what, Like I'll give I'll give the campus a shot. I
get to the campus are like I get there and they're like, yeah,
so this is like our main like quad, like our big hangout area.
It's like called the Quarry. It was like a tiny like little area with
like a shop and like some like a bathroom. Oh. And I was
like, oh my god, this is like your biggest like I don't want
to say hang out spot, but like this is like their central area where
if you go to UCLA, they have like six of those and they're like
giant right quads with all the buildings. And I was like, that's my
type of campus. And like even like Santa Barbara, I was like big
campus, lots of places. Like everywhere I went at Santa Cruz was just
trees. It was just like in a forest. And I was like,
oh my god, I'm what about like the speech they gave you at the
beginning, They were just like yeah, so like we love it here,
like we really try to preserve our nature here, like we don't have we
don't like to have a lot of buildings because we like to have the trees
and the banana slugs slung around. And I was like, oh yeah,
no. Like from the get go, I was like this is not my
type of school. I was like, this is And if you want to
go to a beautiful campus in the redwoods, go to Santa Cruz. It
was gorgeous objectively like, but in my head, I was like, wow,
am I gonna just be depressed living here. I was, it is
not my jam. It felt like I was at like a super preppy,
like expensive Malibu private school. Like like I was walking around and I was
like, wow, Like it wasn't even the people like there. I saw
a lot of like people there that were like seem cool, but I was
just like, there's not a lot of people in general. Walking around,
I saw like probably ten people. And I know that part of it was
because people were in classes, but even when classes were like going through,
I was like, oh my god, like where is everybody? Like even
when I was there were classes, like walking around UCLA, walking around Santa
Barbara, walking around San Diego, there were tons of people like everywhere at
Santa Cruz there was like nobody, and I was like, it just feels
too quiet for me. And like my tour guide was funny, but he
was like, yeah, you know, it gets really foggy at night,
kind of reminds you of the Twilight. And he was like, yeah,
I've gotten chased by a turkey before, and I was like, hello,
like a turkey. He's like, yeah, you know, it's kind of
scary, and I was like, I don't think if I went to any
of the other indies I wanted to get into, there would even be a
possibility of there being a turkey on the campus. Maybe a homeless person,
but not a turkey. I would rather be chased by a homeless person than
a turkey. Yeah, and it like again, like it's a great school,
of course, and like there were a lot of people that didn't get
into Santa Cruz. I would have loved to go to Santa Cruz. And
I was like, dang, I wish I could give you my spot because
it is not my type of school. Yeah. But then I got I
got wait listed from Santa bar and I was like, oh my god.
Like I took that as a celebration. I was like, it's not over.
And then I got rejected from from from that. So how did you
Because there was so much disappointment and there's such I don't know if a lot
of people understand the build up and the power struggles and then getting all this
done and the pure focus on college then to have all of this rejection.
And I feel like at the time you couldn't see I couldn't see it either,
that all of the work that you had done did actually end up paying
off. But at the time, how did you, like, how did
you deal with all that disappointment? I mean it was it was definitely really
difficult, Like it felt very overpowering at first, and like there was a
couple times where I was like, wow, like this is never going to
get better, Like this is the end of the world, Like I got
rejected from these colleges. Now what like because originally in my head, community
college for me was not even on the table, right Like I was like,
I'm gonna go to college, like I've been saying that for years.
I was like, I'm so excited, I'm gonna go to a four year
college, Like that was my plan. And I hadn't even really like dabbled
with the idea of like, hey, like I can go to community college
for a year or two and then transfer somewhere and save money and stay at
my job, which I love. But I definitely think that Like the way
I process stuff is just like by talking about it, like with my unfortunate,
my unfortunate circumstance of recent I got broken up with that's okay, though
we won't we won't, we won't discuss that right now, Okay, But
I will say that. Just like in general dealing with like super super heavy
emotions like anxiety or like sadness, the way I processes wow English, the
way I assess it is just like by talking about it, like I won't
shut up about it until people are like, Okay, we've heard enough.
Like like I when I got rejected from all these schools, I was going
to work, Like in the process of all this, I still had I
still had my responsibility. I could not just be sad about not getting into
college and skip out the last thing. Like I was like, all right,
gott to pull myself out of this and go to my job. And
it was such like a blessing in disguise because I would go and all my
coworkers were like going to community college, Like almost all of my co workers
are either going to see Sun going to community college. And they were like,
girl, it is the best route. Like I love it. We
get to stay at our job, and like I have a lot of friends
at work, and so just talking about it and then being like hey,
like I got rejected from all these schools too, and like even some of
my co workers like they were just settling for schools that they were like kind
of excited about well, like I would have rather gone gone into a school
that they didn't get into, and I was like, okay, Like definitely
just making myself feel a little bit less alone in a situation it's feeling alone
and feeling like you're the only one even when you know you're not, is
like the worst feeling, especially when all of my friends were like all of
my friends got into at least like one of those schools or most of them.
I'll be that's so hard and so it was definitely like disappointing, but
just like talking to other people that are like, yo, like you're good.
I didn't get into these schools either. I'm going here, which is
like fine, but I would have rather not gone here, or the situation
for most of them. Yeah, I went to community college for two years.
I'm in my second year. I went to community college for one year,
and now I'm going to a school that I love. Like right,
one of my co workers did community college for one or two years, went
to UCLA, just graduated from UCLA amazing, and so I'm like I could
eat that too, and it's not going to be that bad. So definitely
like just talking about it to people is like the best, yeah, because
then it's less scary. Yeah. Yeah. And I think your first thing
was just like the reason you couldn't wrap your head around it was because you
thought, well, if I go to because so there's a program that she's
doing. Well, it's not a special program, but the way, because
of all her aps, she only has to do community college for one years
and she can literally reapply same time as your kids are applying, right,
although a little later for transfer students, right, it's a little bit later.
And I think it's a little bit less of a process because when you're
transferring, you kind of focus on a more select group of schools. Like
when you're originally applying, you're like, I'm going to apply here and here
and here and here and here, Whereas when you're transferring, like you kind
of got to focus on like a couple of schools that you really want to
apply to. Obviously you can apply to other schools, but you kind of
got to like know which tool you're aiming for. So like, I'm doing
that there's an honors program, I'm within this program that I'm doing that kind
of gives you preferred admission. I want to say to UCLA, and so
I'm taking all these honors classes so that I can aim for UCLA. But
then I'm also doing this thing called the TAG program, which is transferre Admission
guarantee where if I take a certain number of classes and get a grade I
think it's like three point zero, I want to say four, then I
get guaranteed admission to one of the UC's, including Santa Barbara, which is
what I'm talking. Wow, So I'm doing that all in one year.
That's amazing. At first, she was like, the problem was we were
talking to some other kids that had done it that were like, you have
to take all these classes and you should probably take three over the summer.
And she was like, oh no, I just went through all this.
I just don't want to. I can't catch a break, like I need
a break. But it ended up working out. I only had to take
one summer class, which was super light work. I just finished it yesterday.
It was a music appreciation class. Literally sat down like once a week
for like two hours, would get done everything I needed to get done for
the week, would not have to worry about it until the next weekend.
Nice like it was great. It was not at all difficult. And now
the awesome thing is that I am only going to school in person twice a
week, and the other three days of the week I can hang out,
work on my online classes, go to my job. Money great, Yeah,
it's awesome. Oh my god, let's take one more quick break.
Okay, we're back. Do you know I wanted to. I saved a
couple of posts. It's going to be the best part from paying for college.
It's going to be the best part. So paying for college one O.
One is this website that we Facebook page or something. Yeah, it's
a Facebook page. Sorry not as it's a Facebook page that I have made
fun of in here a lot. But I just picked a couple just to
show you how freaking insane some of these parents are. And I wanted LB
to weigh in on this. Okay, hold on paying for Crown hater.
This is my favorite part. Okay, there's one. Okay, this is
from somebody who's anonymous, which I think. My daughter has a fifteen sixty
s at eight hundred math and three point nine nine unwaited GPA, several aps,
all fives, no sports, but a lot of extracurricular like science,
olympiad, captain, research internships, tons of volunteering, et cetera. Interested
in economics and wants a school Northeast. She's leaning towards Brown for early decision,
but I'm not sure if that's the best she can do. Any thoughts
on Brown versus UPEN or other top schools, Yeah, just unsure if brown
ed is the way to go. By the way, fees not a concern,
thank you. I just want to throw that like, I feel like
they just post on there to brag about their kids, like they don't actually
care. They don't actually they don't actually care, like, oh there's brown
or you pin better. They just want everybody to be like, my kid
is better than yours. Oh yeah, that's all that matters. How about
this one? This is another anonymous person kid with four point four gpa,
fifteen hundred SATs raised forty thousand dollars for cancer for unweighted right right right,
I mean listen, this is how it starts. It's not even like,
hey, I have a question about this, here's some background. It's just
this is just how she goes in out of the coming in hot. Yeah,
my kid has a six point seven unweighted GPA is not good enough Frivy
leagues raised forty thousand dollars for cancer with a leadership position and award, did
a research project, has a research award, capstone diploma. We'll graduate with
fourteen aps, volunteering in sports, interested in econnor finance. Would applying to
a lot of highly selective schools be appropriate? Oh, like's not. That's
not a question at that point, Like you're basically just saying my kid is
applying to all these schools. I hope everybody can see that. Like,
let's just let everybody know and then there's a little edit edit just in case
we're fortunate to have been able to save over the years and can pay in
full if needed. Dude, who cares? Nobody was asking about your financial
situation. Anybody comment or say anything? These people. I didn't screenshot the
comments on that one, but I did. I did take some of the
comments on this one. It's even more fun. Okay, anonymous member,
My children are quite young now, three and five, so of course you've
joined paying for college one on one. Why are you even looking why are
you looking at this? You know those kids are going to be growing up
like, oh geez, but they're not actual light their parents just make them
like, my kid is a piano prodigy, and they're like, no,
your kid has just been playing the piano every single day she was two years
old. Well, okay, my children are quite young now three and five.
We have the opportunity opportunity to live in my childhood home in an upper
class town in New York with top rated schools top ten to twenty in the
country. Kids graduated from their regularly attend Ivy League schools, and the district
is known to well prepare the kids. Again, let me just remind you
her kids are three and she joined a paying for college Facebook group. Okay,
we currently live in New Jersey and I'd need to get a new job
if we moved. I'm in education at the top of the pay scale.
Okay, girl, get it. It gets worse. Would you move to
a top rated district? What are implications the implications of attending this prestigious high
school for college. I'd be willing to bet my three year old is gifted,
and while they're very well equipped to handle her intelligence, she might not
feel quote special in this district. My five year old is smart, but
has anxiety and not on the same level as my three year old Keys Moore
Athletic. Oh, she's like, yeah, he's actually gonna go to Ivy
League for a sports scholarship. Yeah, you foresee his future. Gotta get
him started. So only one person and had a comment which was prestigious equals
pretentious. I'm sorry you're worried that you're now three year old might not feel
special in a high wealth school district. Why should anyone feel special for winning
an IQ lottery, which might not even be the case. She just maybe
developing certain skills faster than her peers at this time, I'm sure we all
needed to know that you're at the top of your pay scale too. Huzzah
and good luck. I was going to say, how would you know if
you're three year old is gifted? Like they're not doing math right now,
they're not old enough to be like like, oh my god. You tell
them like two plus two is four and they're like they're still They're shitting in
they're diapers, Like, how are they gifted? I had when I was
three. I don't think I could like poop in the bathroom alone. I
had got my mom in there. But Sonny, supposedly I was gifted.
So yeah, they told me I was, but still I was. I
did not see my GID at three from so so and one other person wrote,
I'm really hoping this is a joke or troll or something. At three
and five, you've already decided one is gifted and the other is athletic.
If this is true, those poor kids are going to grow up with pressure
to meet goals that you decided for them before they started kindergarten. I just
can't. So she writes back to that one, Oh, she does.
I used to assist with gift to testing, and while my daughter is too
young for formal testing, yes, there is a strong likelihood that she would
qualify, and I'd want her to have her needs met. My current public
education system where I work offers next to nothing. And then she just goes
on and on and on and on about how where she lives is just not
right good enough. She's like, my son has Oh, I forgot about
this part. This is why screenshot this one. She's like, so the
blah blah blah, though new place, Uh, I remember younger students being
bussed to advance level courses and other buildings so they could learn on anyway.
Blah blah, blah. Then she writes, my son, this is her
son who's not gifted. Yea, my son has been stopped while playing sports
by D one sports players. Oh my shot a lady, I'm going to
book her on our show three year old guess next week. Yes, yeah,
So Lebron James actually camped to my kid and was like, hey,
like you have real talent, dude. That's like me saying like Chris Paul
came up to me about Boa and I'm like it's like, yeah, you're
actually really good at basketball, Like have you ever thought about like committing to
future? And I'm like, dude, I'm literally six, Like I don't
even know what D one basketball is. I literally play for my wreck team.
Like that's what his kid, my three year old, my three year
old was actually being recruited for to just to just go to the straight to
the draft. Yeah right, they're like just skip college because like your kid
is two gads. Yeah no, I don't know why she's on here.
She doesn't have to worry about college. Yeah, what is she is?
Going straight to the NBA like there's no issue, it was no problems.
Yeah, and then she basically goes on about after after stopped while playing sports
by d when sports players. I don't know if he will play at all
when he's older, but his academic and esteem needs are different than my daughters
who's gifted. I mean, this woman just keeps going on and then people
argue back with her, and she's just like, I don't understand why I'm
giving. Yeah, So somebody finally writes to her, playing with play though
right now sticking in his nose, and somebody goes anonymous because your privilege is
showing and you're whining about it. You're cheating, You're creating problems where none
exists. Good enough is good enough. Most parents have to live with the
hand life dealt them, and that's not a dream house in a prestigious,
privileged community. And then she writes, okay, wait, what she's about
to have the best comeback? Well, she's basically she goes, ah,
Okay, I know and understand that I'm privileged. I'm not whining, not
intended to come across that way, trying to learn from others and do what's
best for my family in the current market, and planning ahead anyway, planning
ahead, Yeah, dude, you are planning way ahead. I would think
planning ahead is like starting high school. You're like, hey, let's join
this club, but you can put three years old. I gotta join this
group. She's like, yeah, I just I want to make sure my
three year old goes to like one of the ivy's. You know, that's
like our goal. So we're just like we're certain, really you know,
yeah, just in the head start a horrible groups. I mean she has
two boys right there, boys and a girl. Girls get the boys insanely
athletic. Yeah, this is this is gonna be bad. I can already
tell Yeah, well, oldie, this was really fun, and we want
we were gonna see if maybe we could get you to stay for our Patreon
episode and maybe talk about the other big thing that happened in your life if
you want im down. Yay, Oh oh my god, I'm so excited.
All right, all right, everybody, Well, thank you so much
ELB for being so open and say, I am so proud of you.
You're not even my daughter, and you just make you give me chills.
You have You're just intelligent, You're just a beautiful soul, and you're gonna
do phenomenal. Don't worry. This is your You're gonna do great. I
know, I have a I'm a gypsy, I have a crystal ball.
You're gonna be awesome, Albie, thank you so much for Thank you of
course. All right, love you, Love you guys. Oh well we
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