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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
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information and analysis to help you win
your fantasy hockey leaguer. Block off hot,

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Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier and

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Victor Nuno. Hey everybody. Jesse
Severer Fantasy Hockey Life host co host and

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Victor Nunio is the co host.
But you know what, his voice is

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not with you right now. Here's
why I am back in Fantasy Hockey Life

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studios and we are presenting to you
today a very special two part episode like

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we have last year. It's a
crossover episode between Fantasy Hockey Life and Dabber

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Prospects Report. And the first part
is coming out right now you're hearing it.

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The second part will come out on
the DPR feed later in the week.

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And here's what's going on. Hunt, Peter Harling and Victor Nunio went

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to the NHL Draft for the second
straight year. They went to the draft

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and they got a lot of material, a cornucopia of material that they sent

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back to me. Now here's the
thing. The interviews that you get in

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the draft are not necessarily Victor getting
twenty minutes of one on one time with

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the top prospect. Instead, there
are media scrums around general managers and around

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prospects where people ask questions with a
recorder out and it's difficult to hear the

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reporter, and then the prospect is
on Mike and speaks and tries to answer

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some of the questions. And a
lot of times these are people who were

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writing in print and their goal is
to go back and write this nice report

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in their hometown newspaper saying how excited
the player was to have their name called

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and come down, and how happy
they are for their parent support and all

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these things. Well, folks,
here's the thing that is not necessarily the

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most relevant information for our fantasy hockey
listeners that we have here. So I

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have accumulated all the material that Victor
and Peter have provided, and I'm stitching

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them into two episodes. And here's
the thing. In addition to hearing those

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folks, Victor and Peter had plenty
of opportunities to talk to some of our

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favorite experts, people who've been on
the show, people who haven't, and

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they had great talks about some of
these prospects. Instead of hitting you with

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a very long segment of prospect after
prospect and just their voices, and these

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interviews are fairly short, or the
question and answers that we're getting are fairly

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short. Instead, I am stitching
them into some of the interviews that our

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hosts have with some of the experts. So in the beginning of this episode,

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for example, Victor and Peter are
going to start out in our first

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segment, and I am plugging in
interviews from Jesse Paulkin, and Carter George

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and Ilia Protas. All of them
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boys were doing, and they didn't
know I was going to approach it quite

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this way. But I make no
apologies. Also, I make no apologies

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for the fact that I did clean
up some audio. There is some very

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difficult to hear reporter questions. You
probably have to strain for a little bit.

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But there is a brutal number of
ums and us that young men who

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are not used to standing up in
front of an audience are going to utter,

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and I have methods of deleting those, and I have taken advantage of

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them. So the audio is significantly
cleaned up. Nobody is being taken out

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of context or anything like that.
But that's kind of how this is going

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down. So I want everybody that
this is the first half of it.

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We're doing that segment with Victor and
Peter, and then after that we're going

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to have a second segment where Shane
malloy speaks and Tarrett Parasak, the Washington

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Capital's first round pick, is discussed. He's actually boy, He's going to

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be talked about a lot between these
two episodes. I've listened to a lot

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more of it than you have,
obviously, so I would invite everybody to

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sit back, listen to this first
segment, and I'll be back after the

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break to tell you what we have
coming up for the second half. All

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right, Hey, everybody, this
is Victor Pee. We're here in Vegas,

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ready to talk to you about what
it's like been like to be here

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and give you some of our takes
from the first and second round from the

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draft. How you doing, Pete, I'm running on fumes, Victor.

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It has been an exciting week,
that's been exhausting, and it's been a

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really good time. It's been a
great time. I've had a great time

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hanging out with you, and we've
also ran into and talked to a bunch

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of different people, writers, scouts, lots of different media people. It's

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been it's been really eye opening.
Yeah. You know, I've said it

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before and I'll say it every year. The NHL Draft it's like the ball

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at the end of the year.
Right. That's why I do all the

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work I do all year so that
I can come to the NHL because it's

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such a great time. I really
enjoy rubb and elbows with the other media

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people who have podcasts, are on
different media outlets and are talking my language.

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I don't have people in my private
life thinking I can have these same

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level conversations with So it's a lot
of talking to a microphone with you and

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then with actual human other human beings
at the draft. Yeah, we've had

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some really great, eye opening conversations
about a lot of different things from what

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this draft experience will be like in
the future as early as next season.

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We talked a lot about some rumors
and things that we were hearing. Check

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that out and the DPR show feed. Because we did a pre draft discussion.

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We also broke down the first round
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that we thought were interesting picks,
and some value guys that we're going to

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maybe go later, so we did
a couple of those on location. Go

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check out the DPR our Prospects Report
feed for that. What we want to

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do here is talk about some of
the later round guys and maybe we're a

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little bit interesting the fell a little
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That sounds awesome. We just came
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fresh. We were literally there and
you will hear later some of the interviews

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that we got from the different scouts
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that stuff. Definitely stay tuned for
that. But this is some discussion on

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some of the players, and we
will try not to repeat ourselves on some

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players that you're going to hear from
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we will try to avoid that.
We got a couple guys that we think

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are interesting. Who you got who's
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talk about do we do Jesse Pulkinan
There was some polkonan dog but feel free

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all right. He was an interesting
prospect in that he's a Draft plus one,

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so he was passed over in last
year's draft, and he's a big,

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mobile defenseman with some fantasy value.
And because he's a year older,

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the turnaround time on him was going
to be a little bit quicker in terms

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of projection to the NHL. His
English is obviously not his first language,

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is a he's a finish prospect.
And in the media podium interview Ryan Kennedy

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was asking a bunch of people were
asking him some questions and he was really

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struggling, I think with the language
barrier, because his answers were just a

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lot of yeses and nos and no
context or follow up. But one of

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the questions that was posed to him
was about how last year he wasn't really

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on the radar or relevant, and
that the feel on that was because he

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just didn't really he didn't care enough. And so the question was what's changed,

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What's made you you care more this
year? And his answer was basically

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yes. So I think maybe the
question was lost in translation there, of

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course, But what I was really
curious about is the underlying concern from the

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question and if he was just sitting
there at eating Hamburger's last year, then

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what's changed or or how confident Army
that he might not just be more interested

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in Hamberg's again next year? When
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when I don't know, I don't
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know. But you expect to stay
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maybe Finland maybe. What was it
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year, the World Junior Championship?
What was that experience like, I don't

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know, I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know. This

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is bad. So that was interesting. But before I knew that he was

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a prospect that I had some fantasy
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it. He's a little bit older, and he's got size and mobility and

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offensive upsides. I thought that was
an interesting player. He's definitely interesting,

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and as we've talked about many times
that islander Pool is poor, so they

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got a big infusion. We already
talked about Cole Eiserman going there and polking

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in. That's a home run,
I think, because he's a bigger,

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older player and he's pretty ready to
play, So that's good for them.

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Yeah, let's go to another defenseman, Leo Selene Willinius. The Sharks took

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at fifty three, which I thought
was a pretty interesting pick. They also

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really need defense. Of course,
we know they went Sam Dickinson with eleven,

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and we've talked a lot about that, so we don't need to waste

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too much air on that. But
I'm looking forward to seeing all these guys

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development camp. Probably by the time
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and so that'll be really fun to
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a good size, six foot left
handed d he's pretty young for this draft

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April tenth, so he played pretty
much this whole season, mainly in the

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j twenty, where he was point
per game. I think that maybe some

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of that offense is a little bit
inflated, though I'm not sure that he's

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gonna be that big offensive guy,
but there's potential there to be a good

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offensive defenseman. I think the biggest
thing for Wellen selling Millennius is that he's

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a big he's a good skater,
he's good shutdown guy. He's a guy

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who's a pretty robust defensive defenseman.
And maybe there's a little bit more offense

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there too, But he's a guy
who shoots up near the top of that

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pool. Obviously, behind Dickinson,
they don't have too many other guys who

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are super exciting, so he's one. I thought that was pretty good value

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for them where they got him.
And we've talked so much about how there's

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great depth at D and this is
exactly what we're talking about, getting a

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guy at fifty third over raw where
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So that's pretty good value for the
Sharks. I would say, would

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you describe for people who have the
screenplay? I would subscribers as a player,

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a two way defender. I like
to move the park, small player

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with Yeah, I'm a good scaler, so yeah, a two way defender

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for yourself. Obviously, the Sharks
have a few sweets and gave me to

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a little neck. Are you familiar
with them? Do you knowing me on

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the team? And what do you
know about San Jose as a team as

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fall? Yeah? I know it's
it's a lot of Swedish players there.

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It's a nice stay. So that's
what I know that. Now, Yeah,

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for yourself, what's next for your
work? And obviously if you've got

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development camp coming out, do you
expect to be there? And then where

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do you expect to play next season? So maybe juniors or we're back to

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No, I'm gonna play in the
Vicua Akers with the men's I signed a

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two years contract there. That's my
plan. I don't know for the next

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two coming seasons. What ado you
stream lot? Yeah, of course I'm

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That's all I want. I'm gonna
work hard every day to play in NHL.

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Monday is a player that after Yeah, I like to watch on Mirohayes.

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And he's also two a defender,
a good scaler. I like to

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how he plays. Yeah, I
like to watch on him. Is your

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of course that's my goal? I
yeah, I want to play against man.

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Be stronger, Yeah, work on
on my things. Yeah, be

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better on all the things. And
yeah, be stronger, play with more

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intensity. And what is you say
is the strongest part of your game right

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now? You don't need to rely
on to play. And I would say

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my smartness or my skating skills,
my mobility on ice A special teams,

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I would say I can play in
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But I have played a play this
season, so I want to go for

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that. It's more I think.
So, Yeah, he looked pretty good

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for Sweden in the international tournaments that
I watched as well. He's specifically looking

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for Frey and and he stood out
not for his offensive prowess, but like

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just as a player who I think
projects maybe a little bit more reliably to

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the NHL. Perhaps. Okay,
I gotta talk about my local boy there,

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Jacob Attaglia. I'm Kingston, Ontario, so I go to the front

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Next games all the time, and
he is a member of the Kingston front

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Necks and he was their second round
pick two years ago, and going into

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this year, he was ranked pretty
low on all the draft rankings, and

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the player that Fronts took first that
year, Gabriel Frasca, was you know,

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you're a first round I don't even
think he was drafted. And once

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the front Necks made their coaching change, his season really turned the corner.

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The new coach came in, bumped
him up onto a first line with Hawk's

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second round picked Paul Ledwinsky and Matthew
Soto, and he never looked back.

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He just started becoming a point a
game player at the OHL level. I

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like him, Victor. He's a
nice kid for starters, and he's got

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decent size. He's about six'
one. He's really good in the corners

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and has a good shot. But
once a game he does a play or

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I say to myself, ooh that
was nifty, or oh I didn't see

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that option. He makes some really
nice plays and I've been banging his drum

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all season, so it was nice
to see him move into the second round

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and get some get some spotlight.
And I was listening to his media interview

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after he was selected and one of
the writers asked him if he had any

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inclination that Calgary was interested in him
and that's where he would be picked.

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He laughed and he said, yeah, I mean I had some good interviews

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with them. He goes, but
I interviewed a lot of teams because I

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really Calgary though. But I went
to a spiritual healer and she told that

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i'd get that I was going to
be picked in the second round to a

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Canadian team, and then she says, I think it's Calgary. So that

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was weird. That's not something you
expect to hear from a hockey player after

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he's drafted out. His media is
from So I thought that was a pretty

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funny little story to share. It's
a great story, and it's good stuff

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that you get when you're here and
you're lucky enough to be one of the

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media people. I love that story. Let's move over to my next one.

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That's Carter George and he had some
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Now, he was the third goalie
taken and people may remember, I'm sure

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Canadians remember that he helped backstop them
U eighteen Gold. He was really good

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in that tournament, and maybe not
the reason they won, but he certainly

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made some fantastic saves and was a
big part of that. He's six foot

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one, so maybe slightly undersized.
He's also really young for this draft May

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twentieth. It's fine, so he's
drafted by the Kings fifty seventh overall,

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who desperately needs some help in the
goalie pipeline. It was interesting though,

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he was talking about how he's been
a Kings fan his whole life, pretty

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much much since he was a little
kid, and he watched the twenty twelve

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Cup from the Kings that I didn't
quite get the exploit answers to why he

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was a Kings fan because he's from
thunder Bay, Artario, so I don't

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really I don't really get that maybe
one of the players was a favorite of

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his, or maybe parents or something
like that. Not really sure, but

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he's definitely had some pretty good numbers
in the OHL. Looking at his Hockey

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Prospecting card, he's forty seven percent
chance of being in NHLer, which is

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pretty darn good For someone who is
just drafted like that, it tends to

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be quite a bit lower. This
was a dreamized since I've been a kid.

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Obviously, growing up, I was
a huge La Kings fan. I've

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always dreamed of wearing the jersey and
playing for them. It's pretty cool to

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get drafted by this organization and that
just means the world to me and your

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neighbors out a lot of us.
Yeah, excited a lot of people.

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Yeah, I run a lot.
I probably had twenty plus people back from

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Thunder Bay. A lot of people
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It was pretty cool. Tile I'm
hearing come all this way just to

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support me and just show us what
kind of people they are. Yeah,

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they've done a lot for me.
They probably were my development and they've done

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a lot for providing me with resources
and helped me succeed. Obviously, guys

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in the room and the coaches have
done a lot for me management top to

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bottom. They've been incredible to me
and treated me incredibly well. I can't

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think of them enough, and I
wouldn't be here without them. I have

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yes when I went there, and
probably remember it was just playing. We

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played at the LA Kings practice facility, so I thought that was pretty cool

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playing there, and then growing up, I think a twenty twelve cup was

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pretty cool to me. And then
obviously they wanted twenty fourteen too, so

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that was a cherry on top for
me. Any thought from jersey and logo,

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I like it a lot. I'm
not gonna lie, it's it's pretty

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cool. It's it threw me off
a little bit at first because I'm so

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used to the old logo, and
then once I used to it, it

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looks. It looks pretty cool.
I'm excited to wear it. Your style

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was a goaltender and any Goldstenders stimulated
throwing up. Yeah. Growing up,

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I watched a lot of Price and
Jonathan Wick, those kind of guys I

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loved, and then once I got
to an age where I started modeling my

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game after guys, it came to
Egorsh's Durky and Jeremy Swaven. Those two

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guys are kind of same frame as
me, play similar. I definitely take

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a lot from them and can apply
some of their attributes to my game,

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and I'm still learning lots and trying
to take as much as possible from either

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goalies around the league. If you're
wondering, the two goalies that went before

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him were Overrager Illianabakoff no relation to
Evgeny he's a double Overrager actually, and

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then Mikhail Igoroff. So basically a
couple of Russians went a little bit earlier,

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and New Jersey drafted Ygorof and Colorado
drafted the back off. So Day

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two is always goalie day. No
goalies won the first round, many goalies

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went after that. Twenty four goalies
actually went on Day two, five of

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them in the second round, three
and the third. So I don't think

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we know anything about these goalies.
We won't for a long time. But

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I think I think Carter George is
someone that you could get excited about,

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especially because that LA system is pretty
lacking, and so he immediately becomes one

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of the most interesting players that in
that pool. Yeah, he was amazing

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for Canada BU teams. He was
a very large reason why they won that

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turnament that he was amazing. Fint
me, he kept them in when they

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really had no business being in the
game. At times. But let's talk

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about Luke Misa. Michael Mesa's older
brother. Michael Mesa's got the exceptional status

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in the Ontario Hockey League playing with
Saganaw but Luke's coming out of the OHL

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as well, and a lot of
people had him in their first round and

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he's with the Mississauga Steelheads, and
he was a late first early second round

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pick in a lot of people's rankings, I think, And he fell into

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the bottom of the sixth round with
pick one hundred and fifty, another Calgary

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Flames pick there. So I talked
to a couple of people about that.

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I was like, hey, Luke
Misa finally got picked, what do you

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think of that? And all that's
a great pick in the fifth round.

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You should have gone higher. I
had him in my second round. Blah

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blah blah. So I watched them
live Victor, and I see the appeal.

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He's he's a pretty shifty player.
He's quick. I don't know about

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how breakaway fast he is, but
he definitely moves around the ice quite quickly,

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and I think he processes the game
pretty quickly. Lacks some size.

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He is five ten, one seventy
four, so I'm not sure how survivable

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that is in the pro level,
let alone the National Hockey League. And

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then his offensive skill sets are all
above average in the OHL, but none

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of them are elite, right,
Like, he doesn't have a playmaking vision

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that blows you away, he doesn't
have the most lethal shot. He's just

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really good at all those things.
So I guess that's probably why he slid

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down the rankings. With suffering from
seize ititis, as Cam said in the

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tweet that we saw earlier, is
a bit of a problem for him.

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Is it possible that he puts on
twenty pounds and grows two more inches in

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the next two years. It's totally
possible. I mean again, thing can

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happen, But until he does that, I'm less interested. I'm not sure

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that he projects very well. So
it could be a good fantasy value in

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a fifth round kind of thing if
he falls to you there, but there's

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risk. Yeah, not someone that
I'm super interested in. But as you

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said, he has a lot of
really good tools, and if he can

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leverage that packers that altogether into the
sum being greater than the parts, then

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it could be really interesting. The
next guy I want to talk about is

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John Mustard. So he went sixty
seven to the Chicago Blackhawks, and that

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was around where some people had him
ranked. The consensus had him ranked forty

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second. It's forty six, so
I guess you could say maybe there was

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value there he had. He played
for the USHL Waterloo Blackhawks and had twenty

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nine goals in sixty games, so
almost half a goal per game is pretty

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nice. It's interesting because you might
remember that last year they took Nick Lardis

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out of the OHL, and I
think these guys are not two dissimilar.

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Mustard Is two inches taller, but
they're both pretty quick guys with really good

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shots. Mustard in the USA Jell
anyways, has really perfected the art of

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skating around guys, skating down,
blistering down the wing, and firing a

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shot with pretty good accuracy. So
he needs to round out his game,

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but we'll see maybe he can take
a step. But it's funny because in

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hockey prospecting, they both in their
draft season had thirteen percent chance of being

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a star and forty nine percent chance
of being an NHL. Lartis increased his

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star potential this year, which was
pretty nice to see. But you have

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to wait and see how that's all
gonna work out for Mustard or yeah,

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for Mustard. He is scheduled to
go to Providence College next season. We'll

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see how that works out. Trevor
Connelly should be his teammate there, and

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maybe those two can work together and
increase their scoring. But I think interesting

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pick. It's funny. We've talked
about some team seem to have a type.

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I'm not sure if two guys that
are that similar constitute a type.

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But it also interesting to me that
it seemed like they already had that player

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and they went out, I got
another player that was similar to him,

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a little bit taller, maybe a
little bit faster. Maybe the shot isn't

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quite as good as Lartises, But
I think there's some rhymes there, which

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is interesting. So maybe they're like, oh, we'll get two of these

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guys and one of them should work
out pretty well. I don't know,

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what do you think of that,
Pete? Yeah, I like Lartis and

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I like Mustard. I was at
his interview as well, and he asked

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aout, do you have any funny
nicknames? Because the last name he's not

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really musty. Colonel Mustard, I
like Colonel Mustard was funny un original,

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yeah, but still funny. Okay, one more for me will go.

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Let's talk about Anthony Romania, another
guy from the Ontario Hockey League. He

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was the first pick in the sixth
round, one hundred and sixty seven overall

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to the Vancouver Canucks. He was
ranked a lot higher than that ninety seven

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consensus was as high as in the
seventies by some folks. So he's a

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July birthday. So he's just about
to turn nineteen, and he's a D

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plus one. Last year was his
first draft year, so he's got one

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more year to play in the Ontario
Hockey League and he had a real breakout

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D plus one season. Is it
still a D plus one if you get

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drafted in your D plus one?
I guess it is a yeah. Anyhow,

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he scored almost sixty goals in sixty
eight games and had one hundred and

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eleven points for the North Bay Battalion. And I saw him play a couple

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of times as well, and he's
dynamite on the rush. The kids got

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a tremendous shot, and he was
playing with Dylan Wakeley as a center,

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and those two guys we were pretty
unstoppable at times. And I think the

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ability to score on the rush gets
a lot harder when you move up the

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chain there of the food chain and
get into pro hockey, But the ability

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to score on the rush at that
level would be a tremendous asset for him.

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The skating is okay, and the
size is okay. He's six foot

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one eighty three, But I think
in order for him to be rejectable at

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the NHL level, I don't think
it's going to be as a first line

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fifty goal scorer. He's going to
have to adapt his game a little bit

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and make some changes, and sometimes
that's a real challenge for some players.

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I think you could make it to
the NHL. He certainly got some scoring

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prowess, and I think he would
be a nice second power play unit option

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for some teams perhaps if everything breaks
well for him. But he might be

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a player that depending on how deep
your fantasy rounds go and if you're in

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prospect leagues, But if it tries
to mirror the NHL and you have five

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or six rounds of prospect drafting from
the draft, he's a guy i'd recommend.

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I think there's there's some potential here. Yeah. I love that that's

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into one. I think a lot
of people like that pick from an analytics

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sort of standpoint, So good stuff
there. Last one I want to talk

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about. There were some interesting legacy
picks or people with ties to other teams

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that we don't necessarily need to talk
about. But it was fun to see

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Attus Koivu being picked by Montreal.
That's Sasaku's son, so that was pretty

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fun. And then there are some
other picks people that were related, so

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I think that's interesting. But the
one that I wanted to talk about is

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Iliya Protas and he is Alexey Protas's
brother, and that's been interesting pick.

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And oh, I guess I didn't
mention yet. He was picked by the

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Washington Capitals. Who who is who
Alexey plays for? Both these guys are

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huge. Alexey is six foot six, he's now twenty three. He's in

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the Washington organization. I'm sure people
are familiar with him who play in bangor

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leagues. He's maybe not the most
exciting player for Fantasy, but he is

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someone who does have a decent amount
of appeal in you know, a little

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bit more peripheral setting. He hasn't
gotten the most ice time lately and he's

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been more of like a thirty point
guy. But I think, you know,

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maybe there's a little bit more upside
there with his brother. For one

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reason, Billia is still seventeen and
he doesn't turn eighteen until July eighteenth,

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so he's very young for this draft
class. He's six foot four, so

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two inches shorter than his brother older
brother, but he might still be growing

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as well. And he had fifty
one points in sixty one games in the

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USHL this season, which was a
little bit better than his brother had in

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his draft seasons. He seems very
raw. Last season he was playing at

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the U seventeen and U eighteen level
in Belarus and so he came over.

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So maybe on like your deeper leagues. That's an interesting one. Plus,

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I just think it's fun that he
gets to play for the same organization as

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his brother, and I think that
could only have been helpful to have that

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mentorship and to have that belief in
the organization that you get when you have

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a family member in there. I
just wanted to be in the same organization

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with the brother. Yeah, And
when Cap saym Andam was I was surprisedly

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so much because I don't know,
I didn't know. I go so like

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you guys ever played again? No
or just practice like yeah he's here.

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Yeah. And New Jersey trade the
peak he told me when I when I

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was in my draft and that was
the same thing. New Georgy trade the

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peak with capitals and when they say
the more Baccaneers, Yeah, I just

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was so happy. What has he
told you about Washington and new organization?

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Only good things, only positive things, because he loved this organotation, organization.

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He told about a fantastic fans,
best in the league about the city.

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Yeah, I know, it's unbelievable. He told me, only good

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things. Your own career, I
think you played at sy and the Western

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Yeah, you're in the us AHL. What was it when your choice to

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the Moin? But during the last
year, adviser ask who told me you

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have offered from the Moin And they
decided to go to the North America.

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Because I have a great example in
front of my eye, this brother who

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has success in the North America.
And I decided to go to the Morning

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and I have a great season,
a believables in there. It was a

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great group of guys. So in
development next week hour with brother will home.

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He needs to he'll work at home
to be ready for next season.

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How do you describe your game?
I think the big point of my game

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,880
that's hockey sounds, hockey IQ.
Yeah, I want to be one help

406
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,799
team to win and want to coach. Trust me every citation on ice and

407
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,920
we are up or down one five
on five every citations next ye, I

408
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,000
think skating in speed, that's like
the best aspect I need to work on

409
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,240
going through this process. Some of
the best advice hecta with them as far

410
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:36,319
as just kind of handle the ups
and downs and come to drive. Okay,

411
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,920
you just don't enjoy it. Enjoy
it. There's a special moment and

412
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,440
what will happens to what happens and
it's just a little moment. And he

413
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:49,079
said enjoyed. No, unfortunately we
don't get our visa at that moment.

414
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,440
Yeah, but we're watching that and
definitely cat kicking. We were so happy.

415
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,720
You see, alecting is grown.
The absence. I think be more

416
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,160
exciting to bring you to the page
too. I want to. Yeah.

417
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,839
Yeah, it's a great organization.
How you can see he's dropped a lot.

418
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,039
He's development so fast and I'm so
happy to jog to this organization.

419
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,279
I hope I will have to say
the same success with team some really cool

420
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:17,039
storylines. I'm sure there's more that
we can get to. We, as

421
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:18,839
Pete mentioned in the beginning, are
running on fumes. It has been an

422
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:23,920
awesome but exhausting the last few days, trying to chase down all these people

423
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,319
that talk to, getting all these
interviews, talking to all the people,

424
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,200
trying to do as much as we
can for you, the listener. Thanks

425
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,359
so much for listening to this.
I hope you enjoy all the great content

426
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,759
that we try to amass, and
there will be more and more stuff throughout

427
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:42,880
the summer as we continue to unpack
and cross reference and recover from our time

428
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:48,079
here. Pete, Yeah, it's
been hot. I'm looking forward to not

429
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:53,400
feeling standing on the sun. Yes, but thanks so much. Enjoy the

430
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,559
rest of the content that you're going
to hear in the rest of the show,

431
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:59,039
and reach out if you have any
questions or if you want to talk

432
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:03,400
about hockey or anything. We're always
available. All right, Join now by

433
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,000
Shane Malloy of Hockey Prospecting Radio.
How you doing, body doing great?

434
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,240
This is the unbelievable event here.
I don't know how the NHL could ever

435
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:15,000
not do a draft in the sphere. Again, it is the brand awareness

436
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,160
that the league's received from this has
been outstanding and it's a one event that

437
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,839
the NHL does better than anybody else
in sports is our entry draft. So

438
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:29,759
for me, I think it was
just a massive upper deck Grand Slam home

439
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:33,799
run for the NHL. It's been
awesome. The visual asthetics, the appeal,

440
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,440
it's just been incredible. Yeah,
for me, it's just like getting

441
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,200
non hockey people to like, they're
jumping on social media. They're like they're

442
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,279
making commentary all over the place like
how amazing it is, Like you can't

443
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:49,400
buy that. And for the NHL, it is we're always against the juggernaut

444
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,240
of the NFL and NBA and Major
League Baseball. For us as an industry,

445
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,720
to get that type of exposure is
massive. For so great on the

446
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:04,279
NAH of taking their risk to be
here, because it's they've done a fantastic

447
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:07,720
job. Absolutely. Let's talk about
some of the interesting guys that set out

448
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,359
to you from the first couple of
days. So first we'll talk about Trek

449
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Parasak, who went seventeenth overall to
the Washington Capitals. He's a pretty interesting

450
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,319
player, isn't he certainly, because
look, he was a Rooking in the

451
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:23,359
Western Hockey League and had a ridiculous
output in terms of his ability to produce

452
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,000
points off you know, whether it
be scoring goals or assists. And what

453
00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:31,440
makes him really interesting is he wasn't
He's not the biggest guy's six foot maybe

454
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,519
one hundred and eighty pounds, but
he's not the fastest skater in terms of

455
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,799
straight line speed. But what he
is he's very deceptive. He's very elusive

456
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:43,759
as a skater, and he reminds
me a lot of Tyler Toffoli in the

457
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:47,640
way he operates inside the offensive zone. He finds seams, he finds lanes,

458
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,119
he finds open spots only for himself
but his teammates. I think his

459
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,119
hockey sense is borderline etlite. Like
he's so impressive. His puck skills in

460
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,400
small areas is excellent, and he
finds to draw defenders in And I'm not

461
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:05,880
terribly shocked it was the Washington Capitals
that jumped out to get him. If

462
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,279
you look at Washington Capitals like draft
efficiency and success from five to sixteen,

463
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:14,799
they're in the top four of the
NHL, and if they've continued to do

464
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:20,039
that from sixteen to twenty, so
they understand which players that can work well

465
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,359
in their system, and they have
a really strong developmental system. And all

466
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:27,000
this kid needs is a couple of
years more than the dub and then probably

467
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,519
a year in American High because he
just needs to get bigger, stronger,

468
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:32,079
and you can get just a little
extra pop on that foot speed. But

469
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,759
he's a second line player all day
long. Yeah, I've heard a lot

470
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,519
of concerns about the foot speed and
physicality, but you'd bet on him,

471
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,640
may Yeah, I bet him on
Now. I have him in the second

472
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:44,960
round because I want to mitigate my
risk in that respect. But I thought

473
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,720
he was going to be a player
that would play two hundred games in the

474
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:50,799
NHL or more so for me,
I thought it was a no brainer.

475
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,559
But I also feel like that kind
of threat of me being a score allows

476
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:55,599
me to become a better playmaker.
So I think they tie into each other.

477
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:59,319
And I would says break in the
middle. There we're back people up

478
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:04,319
the Benchoshi before hm. Now yeah, you might be yeah tobly well,

479
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,839
hopefully get to play with him again
down the line, and then yeah,

480
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,280
it could be works what works so
well with you too. Yeah, I

481
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,159
think just the way we play.
I think we just found some chemistry early

482
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,199
is the way we moved parks And
obviously he was able to put the pocket

483
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,119
of that, that's for sure,
with the season he had. And yeah,

484
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,760
just such a competitive, hardworking guy
and was able to learn so much

485
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,880
from him in that sense. And
yeah, we just we just clicked instantly

486
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,519
and we're able to find the chemistry. You mentioned the process the lead from

487
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,400
this age sixteen to the age seventeen
season. Do you think that seeing the

488
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:37,639
results from that is going to motivate
you that you're gonna have obviously a couple

489
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,320
more level jumps to get to where
you've got go having been through that process,

490
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,199
and once feel like it'll be trying
to become more naturally to you after

491
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,400
the next couple of NS. Yeah, for sure. I think that's all.

492
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,039
Everything that I have been through so
far has been a learning experience.

493
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,519
It's definitely been cut from quite a
few teams growing up and taking that all

494
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:59,559
as a learning experience, and I
think that's shaving into the person and player

495
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:01,960
that I am of. Nothing's ever
gonna be given to you after and everything

496
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,480
and everything happens for a reason.
And so just taking all those things and

497
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:09,280
being able to face advision like that
and hopefully get where I want to be

498
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,960
one day. How did you feel
about the nickname super Gristy this year.

499
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Yeah, I don't know. It's
always he's super cool, addictive. Definitely

500
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,760
got old after a while, and
I don't love the attention that much like

501
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:27,800
that, but obviously super cool to
have a nickname like that. I'm pretty

502
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,000
sure it's just our play by play
guy said it after I scored one goal

503
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,280
at the start of the year and
I was went on a little bit of

504
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,960
a tear to start there, and
I was hot and finally back in the

505
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,599
bad So I think they just started
calling me that from that broadcast and it

506
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:42,360
just cut on, and I think
that's everybody calls me that now. So

507
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,840
how much fun was this year?
And pretty Steorge is a great season?

508
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:49,639
Yeah, it was unbelievable that the
players we had there, my teammates,

509
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,079
I can be more grateful to have
those guys, and the coaching staff is

510
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:57,280
unbelievable, and the whole organization is
so amazing. The fans rallying behind us

511
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,559
at the end there in the playoffs, it was just unbelief. Season I

512
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:02,679
can be happier. I think to
improve on going forward, I think is

513
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,760
definitely my strength. I think I
need to get a lot stronger, get

514
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,000
in the gym, a little bit
more fill out in my body. I

515
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:12,119
think that's a big start for me, and then I think with that will

516
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,599
come my skating as well, be
able to build better speed and that sort

517
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,239
of thing sounds good. Another no
brainer. Santase Sharks walk up at thirty

518
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,519
third overall and probably take best player
available your Centershof one hundred percent with the

519
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:27,639
kids. An athlete, and he
has very good hockey sense, very good

520
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,039
puck skills. There's gonna be a
lot of very good in my explanation about

521
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:35,079
him, but he doesn't have There's
not any red flags with him as a

522
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,960
player. And this is as well
as anybody when you're trying to evaluate an

523
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:44,480
athlete and you see somebody who is
so athletic and it's going to reduce injuries,

524
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,000
but also it's going to help him
as a talent pool compresses that lets

525
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,239
them along with his puck skills and
its cognitive ability, I think he's going

526
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,599
to be a second line player,
no problem in the NHL power play,

527
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,800
and he's going to be able to
produce five on five. So I'm a

528
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,159
little surprised he dropped out of the
first round, but those things do happen.

529
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960
There's always going to be a team
or two teams that like pull a

530
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,599
guy out that I didn't think we're
gonna go there, and and that team

531
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:14,559
reaps the benefit of it. In
his media availability, right after someone asked

532
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:15,920
him what he modeled his game after, he said, Nathan McKinnon, not

533
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,480
sure he's gonna be quite that level, but what do you think of him?

534
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,360
Liking that sort of style and like
the type of player it plays with,

535
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,920
like intensity and high pace, and
that's Nathan McKinnon's game, Like he's

536
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,199
gonna outpace you and outwork you and
be intense. And I think Schernershov has

537
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,079
the ability to do that. Of
course, I don't think he's gonna put

538
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,800
up those type of productive numbers,
but certainly he's a player that if he

539
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,880
was in the sixty point range in
his prime years, like twenty four to

540
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:45,199
thirty, that wouldn't surprise me.
Last one that I know you're really interested

541
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:52,360
in Gabriel Eliason, who's a big
left hand, left handed d who went

542
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,639
to Ottawa he's a September ninth birthday, so he's super young for this draft

543
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,039
class went thirty ninth. Overall.
What do you think of him? I

544
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,440
think he's a Viking. He should
replace his helmet with a helmet with horns

545
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,280
on it, take away his stick
and give him like a battle axe.

546
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:08,559
Him along with Steian Solberg, they're
both Vikings. The one thing about Eliason

547
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,960
is there's certain players that hit,
and there's certain players hit to hurt and

548
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:17,280
want to punish you, and he
takes actually pride in knocking people out and

549
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,199
then he just laughs at them.
So there's almost like a kind of a

550
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,760
maniacal aspect of his game. And
you look in the playoffs like you need

551
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,800
guys like that. He's an intimidating
force. So like when forwards go down

552
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,119
and try to retrieve a puck against
him, he's going to ensure that you're

553
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,159
never gonna want to do that ever
again. Now, there's gonna be some

554
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,599
issues in terms of his puck moving
ability. He's got to play that.

555
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:44,960
He's got to be simple in that
respect, and he has to play a

556
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,960
very disciplined defensive game because he's a
bit of a bit of a hunter in

557
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,239
terms of hitting people. So that's
an area that he's going to have to

558
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,119
clean up. But if you look
in the playoffs, what kind of defensemen

559
00:38:55,199 --> 00:39:00,039
you need when it gets greasy and
dirty. He's it awesome. Thanks so

560
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:13,119
much, Shane, Thank you very
much, thanks for having me. Now

561
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,920
we're back for the second half of
the episode. This is Jesse back in

562
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,280
the studio once again, and here
is what you have to look forward to.

563
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Stephan Rosner, who you recently heard
interviewed on one of our team previews,

564
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:28,760
is coming up next with Camil Bednark
is going to be one of the

565
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,159
guys spoken of, Cam Robinson Boy. We got an all star cast here,

566
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,599
Victor and Peter Cleaned Up is going
to be on and Ze boyem writer

567
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:44,239
Richie Alfonse Frage are all going to
be a part of that talk. And

568
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:50,159
then at the end we are going
to segment together probably another ten minutes or

569
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,199
so of material that doesn't fit cleanly
into one of these interviews, and it's

570
00:39:54,280 --> 00:40:00,280
primarily going to be clustered around the
general managers. We'll start with Daniel Brier,

571
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:06,239
then Barry Trotz with a little bit
of Igor surin interview, and then

572
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,719
finally Trevor Connolly on his own because
it was a very interesting interview and we

573
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:15,239
can't miss out on that. So
everybody stay put. Now it's time for

574
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:19,679
the next interview with Victor. All
right here with Stephan Rosner of The Hockey

575
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,679
News talking some Islanders pick. They
went with good value twenty ofth overall,

576
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,559
Cole Eiserman fifty four, Jesse polkinon, Camille Bennarik got sixty one. So

577
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:30,719
what did you think of their draft
so far? Yeah, I think it's

578
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,519
been good. This is a team
that really doesn't have a strong prospect tool

579
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:36,079
they haven't picked in the first round. This twenty nine team getting Coleismhen.

580
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:37,840
I think everyone will agree that he
did fall in this draft. Who would

581
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,679
take a chance and a really one
dimensional guy, pure goalscorer. This is

582
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,519
Islander seen that needs goal scoring and
I think just talking to maybe he's a

583
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:47,599
little cocky, but he sees the
game a different way. Lou loved that

584
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:51,360
about him. He loved that they
were open to sing it the way he

585
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,320
saw it. And when you got
a guy that falls like that, you

586
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,519
take that chance every day. Seems
like they need to support him with some

587
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,199
playmakers and some other types of mentioned
the prospect poill being a little low.

588
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,000
What do you think about and maybe
a guy like Benark or what's going to

589
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,400
be around Iman when he's ready to
contribute. Yeah, I think Ben Ork's

590
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,039
great one. They played together at
US development. They also are going to

591
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:15,159
college Boston University together, coached by
J. Pandolpho and Ben Aric. What

592
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,679
he said was he's a two way
player. He values that a lot.

593
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,719
He reminded me of a boat hood
that a little bit the way he spoke,

594
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,760
but also that he's very mature in
that aspect of the game. So

595
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,119
he said he's played with Isman before, the fact that he understands how Ibman

596
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:27,880
plays. He knows he can get
him the puck. Things like that.

597
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Those are the kind of guys you
need to run there, Guys that can

598
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,000
make the plays. Play defensively smart
to a lot of guys like Iiman's just

599
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,599
focus on what they do best,
scoring goals really well on both ends of

600
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:39,400
the ice. My biggest strength is
that two and or four games. I

601
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,320
take a lot of pride in doing
that and being good defensively. At the

602
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,880
same time, I can produce offensively
as well. So I think that's the

603
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:51,199
good balance of both worlds. So, yeah, there's a few guys,

604
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,840
but I guess the main guy is
definitely Patreuce berger On. I don't know.

605
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,440
I'm from Chicago, but he played
on the Boston Bruins. But I

606
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,239
don't know why, but whenever I
was younger, I like to watch him

607
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,639
play and I liked how he was
responsible, and I think I picked up

608
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:07,880
that responsible game and that mature game
earlier than some other players would have.

609
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,519
I definitely try to be as good
as he is. In my opinion,

610
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:15,920
I think he was the honestly the
best two hundred and two way. Yeah,

611
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,519
and polkind have been an overrager.
He might be ready a little bit

612
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:20,800
sooner than later. Maybe get him
over pretty soon. Huh Yeah. We

613
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,880
asked him his English isn't great,
which is all good. He said.

614
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,599
They didn't know if he would stay
over there or come come this year.

615
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:28,760
But big guy, and he's mobile, he said, he's He models the

616
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,599
game after Victor Hedman. Obviously it's
hard to find a lot of Victor Headmans,

617
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:34,559
but you watch him. The replay
is very decisive, quick motion at

618
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,239
the blue line to do a little
shimmy and get around it. The Islanders

619
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,559
again, mobile defensive defensemen are hard
to find. We see Noa Dallason with

620
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:43,039
the honors right now. He needn't
even work on his just getting up the

621
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,760
ice, but getting off from from
your back end is really important, especially

622
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,679
when your two net struggles to produce
and transition. Yeah, then they went

623
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,440
goalie in the fourth and fifth round. They got some other picks coming up,

624
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:54,920
but that kind of interesting seeing how
much they needed like one are you

625
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,199
could argue they don't need is in
that, but they went goalie. What

626
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,559
do you think about it? Yes, I think you look at Can signed

627
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,039
another seven years and healed his deal. Another couple one in Varlamo's. But

628
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,159
after that they didn't really have that
much goaltending depth and they got a couple

629
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:10,000
of guys Yakup Scark has pretty much
been a failed prospect. Hendrick Titan though

630
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,559
really emerged last year as one of
those one of those big guys maybe in

631
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:16,960
the future is huge. They have
Tristan Lennox who has hurt a lot last

632
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:20,280
year. But they get these two
guys. One of them played for CSK

633
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,920
Moscow and the Islanders did hire k
kam Moscow's goalie coach to become Bridge sports

634
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,400
goalie coach. So I think it's
smart to always have goalie depth. Maybe

635
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,599
one of them hits eventually five years
down the line. Varlamo's retired and you

636
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:32,159
need someone you always have it.
Also, trade bait. We're seeing stuff

637
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:36,000
with Nashville right now, and you're
never gonna have too many goalies. Again,

638
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:37,239
look at the draft that's late rounds. We'll see what happens here,

639
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,880
but I think it's it definitely doesn't
hurt to bolts of the prositpal and they

640
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,400
did it on offense, defense and
in the goal. Thanks so much,

641
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:52,000
seven, no prom Thank you so
much. All right. At the draft,

642
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,119
it's the second day. We're at
about round five now. I'm sitting

643
00:43:55,199 --> 00:44:00,679
down with the Victor and Cam Robinson
from EP Ringside, formerly managing editor of

644
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,480
Dobard Prospects. I like to remind
everybody that can I having fun. You

645
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:05,880
having a good time, buddy.
A little blurry here on day two,

646
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,960
but we're having a good time in
Vegas. We're near the finish line for

647
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:12,880
sure. Let's talk about a couple
of the guys who have been selected today

648
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:16,000
and maybe what to the fantasy upside
could be on some of these players.

649
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,280
So let's start with Zeeve William.
He dropped a little bit. I thought

650
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,880
he would be one of the first
defense been taken out of the bunch,

651
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,960
and he was like the last,
which I thought was a little surprising.

652
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,960
He goes ends up going to Minnesota
and you put out a tweet saying that

653
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:31,639
there the pair of him in Rock
Faber are are going to be something special

654
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:35,840
for a long time. What's the
fantasy upside of William going to Minnesota?

655
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:40,239
They don't have that pure power play
quarterback and I identified him as a player,

656
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,800
It's maybe he's not your power play
one guy. He put up fifty

657
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,679
points in forty two games of Denver
this year. He played a central role

658
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,960
in a national championship winning team,
played a big role for USA at the

659
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,440
World Juniors gold medal kids a winner, excellent two way guy. But I'm

660
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,119
not sure the production at college is
really indicative of the type of player he's

661
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:00,800
going to be in the NHL and
like a fantasy player, so I don't

662
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,760
project him to be like that seventy
plus point defenceman. But I have had

663
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,480
some pushback from other scouts who you
know my kind of knock on woolliham in

664
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:13,519
it for the elite points is that
he doesn't have like electric feet. He's

665
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:15,519
not mccar or Hughes or Mira Hayskin, eric guys like that. But I'm

666
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:20,719
quickly reminded by some people that,
yeah, neither's Adam Fox. So does

667
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,840
he have that level of potential.
Maybe he could have that kind of juice

668
00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:27,920
at the very top end, but
more likely, I think he's a very

669
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:32,079
useful piece that fifth. Minnesota uses
him on the top power play, then

670
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,119
he's going to be a guy who
could put up fifty to sixty points.

671
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:39,480
If he's more your secondary offensive catalyst, then he's going to be more mutian.

672
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,840
It's gonna be like thirty five forty
forty five points, which is still

673
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,000
very valuable because of this all round
aspect for the fantasy world. I think

674
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,840
we need to wait and see where
he lands long term. But just a

675
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,719
great pick there from Minnesota, and
I know they're doing backflips grabbing him.

676
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,079
That's the best in the world,
and I'm going to be able to be

677
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:58,840
in Minnison a while kind of interesting
where you go probably live and expected book

678
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:04,199
the team trade up goods to be
that guy for sure. Yeah, seeing

679
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,360
him trade up I had a pretty
good feeling that it could be me,

680
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,159
and yeah, it couldn't be more
honored for them to make that decision to

681
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,960
get me. Do you think the
world were Oh yeah, I knew.

682
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,480
We had some good conversations, nothing
too crazy, but definitely there was some

683
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:25,159
interest there. I don't know you're
gonna breaks. Yeah, it's awesome.

684
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,400
I think it's super cool. We
won the NCHD Championship as well there.

685
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:37,760
To win two championships in that building
already feels feels really good. I think

686
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,960
obviously I want to improve on everything. Still young, you can still I

687
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,159
prove on everything. I want to
can work on my consistency defensively, But

688
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,079
I think the biggest thing is for
me is my hot accus is probably the

689
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:49,960
biggest thing that will translate to the
best. That's probably the biggest thing.

690
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,440
We talked about your coming into the
program at the us HL and happening to

691
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:57,840
Brian to become them power play guy. Are you going to use that experience

692
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,320
in the us HL now that you're
the new guys? So yeah, I'm

693
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,639
just gonna come to obviously go there
and have the same mentality that I got

694
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,320
to work for everything and earn every
opportunity for me. I'm gonna I'm gonna

695
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,239
continue to do what I do best
and just work as hard as I can.

696
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,639
Like, I just felt so special
to hug my mom, ug my

697
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,039
dad. They made so many sacrifices
for my brothers and I and to hug

698
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:20,280
them was so special. And then
to hug my two brothers who mentored me

699
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,760
this entire time, it feels even
better. So it's it's a moment that

700
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:28,000
I can't fully explain, but it
was. It was awesome. Family.

701
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Yeah, not from Israel, but
we have a couple from Israel, and

702
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,119
then a lot of friends and family
that they came to support me. I

703
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,400
spent two years at Chattick Saint Mary's
at the Fairbell, Minnesota. Spent a

704
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:43,119
whole summer at Lake Minnetonka as well. So I love Lake Minatanka. I'd

705
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,719
rather spend the time there than on
the beach of California. Yeah, super

706
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,559
pumped to be Minnesota. Weile we
went to a couple anytime we could.

707
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:57,320
I would try to go, but
not too many fisticated to the Yeah.

708
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,760
Everything I think for me is he's
the best coach ever had and the best

709
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,599
coach college hockey and he's gonna be
a great coach hl and Dad. He's

710
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:04,960
meant so much to me, my
brother and my family, and I'm so

711
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:08,400
grateful for him. Did you,
guys, I don't know if you've thought

712
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,199
about maybe playing with him one day. I know it's a really quick Yeah,

713
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,880
that would be. That would be
awesome. I think that'd be something

714
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,159
I could dream about. Yeah,
he's obviously a stud and such a great

715
00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:21,119
player. Yeah, that'd be it'd
be awesome. I just kind of want

716
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:23,320
to ask you about Cole Aisaman going
a little bit later than maybe some thought,

717
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,239
but he might literally be on an
island out there in New York with

718
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,880
quite literally with the rest of the
prospectful but pretty good grab for them,

719
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,519
eh. The Islanders no a thing
or two about getting enigmatic scores out of

720
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:39,360
the program, right, So key
for Bellows swinging a miss, Oliver Wallstrom

721
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:45,000
swinging a miss three times a charm
with Coliserman three worst right, three?

722
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:47,199
I really did Wallstrom. I learned
a lot from that from liking him though,

723
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,159
And it's like twenty very much in
the realm of take a cut on

724
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,679
Cole Eisman, because best goal scorer
in the class and he does have some

725
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,400
jam like he he has burgeoning power
forward capabilities. That's just whether you can

726
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,719
like unlock that full time for him
and really motivate him and light a fire

727
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,760
under his ass range of outcomes for
him is so massive, like he could

728
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,920
be like an every year thirty five
plus goal scorer, dominant on the power

729
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:15,599
play, physically engaged, or maybe
he's a quad a guy who gets like

730
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,320
some time and bounces around. But
I did have one I'd want NHL or

731
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,760
teamside guy tell me that he reminds
him of JT. Miller and not it

732
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:28,800
all in stylistically, but as like
a player with the level of skill that

733
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,039
Miller had went middle of the first
round in his draft year, a little

734
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:35,039
immature, didn't have the work ethic. Maybe he didn't stay in the best

735
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,960
shape early on, staying out late
and it took him two teams, right,

736
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:42,159
he had to move a couple of
times before he really found his spot

737
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,960
and now obviously now a one hundred
point guy in Vancouver year over year.

738
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:47,440
Maybe Iiserman finds success in his mid
to late twenties on his third team.

739
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,760
So yeah, it's he's a complete
Wilid card. Yeah, my concern with

740
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,960
him is like there is. There
is a wide range of poinential. It

741
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:57,199
comes like you said, and are
we going to see the best version of

742
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,119
Cole Eiserman now that he's being drafted
and developed by the New York Islanders.

743
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,199
They don't have that. From my
understanding, it's not a very hands on

744
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:09,239
developmental model that they have there.
They let the players sort it out themselves.

745
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,599
So I think he actually needs a
lot of refinement and a lot of

746
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,159
control to turn him into the best
potential player he can be. He's going

747
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:21,280
to be you it's a good program. Yeah, he's going to have to

748
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,679
clean up some of those mistakes in
order to just really transition and handle the

749
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,280
riggers of the NCAA. I mean, he's good enough that he could probably

750
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,639
still cheat his way to some big
point totals, but that won't happen when

751
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:32,840
he gets to the NHL, So
he's going to have to figure it out.

752
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,960
And he's a competitive kid. He's
fiery in that regard, So I

753
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:40,719
think he just needs to diversify his
game a little bit because when he has

754
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,920
the puck on his stick, everybody
knows what he's gonna do. Right,

755
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,119
He's gonna shooting it, whether it's
in a shin pads or it's into the

756
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:49,039
back of the net, but he's
not going to see the passing options that

757
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:51,639
he should all the time. So
yeah, he needs to round out that

758
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:54,199
offensive game and then just really keep
it fire. And there's definitely upside,

759
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,320
especially at that spot, and it's
worthy. All right, last one and

760
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,719
then we'll let you get back out
there. And I've been talking to a

761
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,119
lot of people and talking a lot
on our show about Trek Parasak, and

762
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,480
we were a little surprised that he
went in the first round. I had

763
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:10,920
him as a first round fantasy option. What's the fantasy upside looking like for

764
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,599
Parasak going in the first round?
The way he did not a traditional first

765
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,320
round or based on size, speed, skill, I wouldn't say maybe skill,

766
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,000
but it's so opportunistic. That's the
name of the game with him is

767
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:29,119
that whenever I would see him live, I think only one time was I

768
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:31,599
really like impressed with what I saw, and he had five primary points.

769
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:36,320
And then every other time I saw
him it was just cue would be a

770
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,599
bit invisible or whatever, and then
he'd catch a breakaway pass and go burn

771
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:40,880
a goal. He just finds a
way to hit the score. She'd take

772
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,280
a step into the Western League this
year and score whatever it was, forty

773
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,599
two to forty three goals if it
wasn't for McKenna. He's the rookie of

774
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:51,320
the year and the dub. Yes, he's highly insulated in Prince George there

775
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,639
with a couple older kids, Zach
Funk scoring a goal game, Andre Becker

776
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:57,320
who just got drafted this year as
an overage or he's putting up a monster

777
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,079
season nearly a hundred points. They
had who else that have Cohen Zeemer,

778
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,320
they had Riley height, like they
have a lot of high end players there

779
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,679
that so he didn't have to be
a focal point and that's how he could

780
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,599
just slip under the radar a little
bit, I think against the defensive matchups

781
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,280
and find a way to score.
So you know, he went earlier than

782
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,119
I thought he would, Washington taking
him in the mid teens there. But

783
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,159
you know, analytically, you know
he's a darling. So it's like the

784
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:22,239
production is very clearly a first round
player, but the size and speed maybe

785
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,239
doesn't indicate that he's going to be
that level of player long term. But

786
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,199
you know, again as a fantasy
look probably a first round pick. Washington

787
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,400
does have a pretty good track record
of player development as well, so that's

788
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:36,639
nice. Yeah, I haven't hated
what Washington's done with the trades and some

789
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,440
of their picks. It's they're an
interesting team to watch as they try to

790
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:45,280
navigate not falling down all the way. They're doing the retool versus the rebuild,

791
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,599
So they'll be one to watch for
sure. All right, Man,

792
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,840
to get back to the draft and
the NaSTA drinks. Awesome, sounds good,

793
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,239
but any thing right? All Right, we're standing out here in the

794
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,639
sun in Vegas, but we're awesome. We're so happy to be joined by

795
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:59,320
Jill Henderson, Puck Preps, will
scout scouting Pete here as well. How

796
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,960
you guys doing, How do you
enjoy the draft? It was a lot

797
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,679
of fun. I thought it was
great experience. I hope they do it

798
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,719
again here. It was a lot
of fun. I've never seen anything like

799
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,679
that before, but a lot of
fun. I think it was just another

800
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,920
solid in NHL draft. What about
you, Joe, This is the first

801
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,039
draft that I got to experience doing
a WHL draft for these kids, So

802
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:17,000
knowing the kids all through by the
time they're fifteen, up to this draft,

803
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:20,239
so there's a little bit more special
for me. So seeing the names

804
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,239
come off the board, it was
really fun cheering for them on the low

805
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,920
key. Yeah, we got some
guys that I know you guys wanted to

806
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,119
talk about. Let's start with you, Will. I know that you're a

807
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:30,480
big fan of Teddy C guy.
I think you had him in the top

808
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:35,000
five on your board. He went
a bit later than that, a fifty

809
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,599
fifth overall. But still, what
do you like so much about this guy?

810
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,639
Well, it just brings everything right. It's just a high paced,

811
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:42,880
high energy guy. Physical, doesn't
really back down from nothing. But he

812
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,239
has some skill, He's got some
offense to him. I think he showcased

813
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,159
a lot of that. The underteens
played really well off of James Haggins.

814
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,599
I think those two boosted each other
really well. I don't know exactly what

815
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,800
dropped him all the way to the
end of the second round, but I

816
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,880
don't really care. I think he's
just a really well rounded, high end

817
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:00,320
guy who brings a lot to the
game. I totally agree with you,

818
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,480
and I think that the fact that
he got picked so late makes him a

819
00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:08,760
really good fantasy sleeper, right like
a player who has way more potential than

820
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:15,119
where his draft position suggests. And
if you're in my league, of course,

821
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:21,599
don't paying attention to me, Joel
this get your WHL expertise on here.

822
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,400
You just talked about a whole bunch
of guys. You've been following them

823
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,519
since your draft class. They slotted
probably right around where you were thinking.

824
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,960
I think you were suggesting, yeah, not too far away. Yeah,

825
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,320
who's the guy that's maybe out of
the first round, that's got some fantasy

826
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,639
value that you think is a little
underrated. I don't know what auto rated.

827
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:39,559
These are guys that always, you
know, I've been on the radars

828
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:43,480
forever. But the three forwards,
I think I was very curious to see

829
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:45,199
how far apart that they would go
from each other, and they really didn't

830
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:49,280
go very far apart. And so
it was just Bash Andrew, Basha,

831
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,599
Tannerhouan Rader, Richie and these are
all guys that could be play on third

832
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:54,079
lines across the league one day.
They bring a little bit of finesse,

833
00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:57,840
a little bit of battle along the
boards, they can bring that offense like

834
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,800
these are all guys that can provide
potentially up to forty points in a season

835
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,519
for teams. So I think those
are the guys that you're hoping you can

836
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,440
push out of that second round,
jumble the top the top half of the

837
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,599
second round into being full time guys
for you in the NHL. And I

838
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,960
like all those three guys. I
had all of them in the range and

839
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,320
take your pick which one fits your
group very well? And you know there

840
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:21,159
they all could be good players,
right or Richie and Minnesota Quadi Metoma,

841
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,800
I was on knee collision whatever,
Right, Mary, You've got a great

842
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,320
success in princeps the whole three years
the house playing the Raiders, right,

843
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,239
Yeah, I think it's helped a
lot. I think coming into a young

844
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,800
team when I was sixteen, I
got a lot of opportunity. I earned

845
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,920
a lot of ice time, I
got gum and power play. So I

846
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:45,599
think I've been growing my game a
lot there, just taking big moments playing

847
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:49,480
it, playing and playing a lot
of big minutes, especially at a young

848
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:52,920
age. I think it's helping.
And yeah, I'm thankful for Prince Albert.

849
00:55:52,920 --> 00:56:00,880
I couldn't be here without them for
sure. Yeah, it was great

850
00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:04,559
having the playoffs I did. I
thought that was some of my best hockey

851
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,000
of the year. And then also
going to the World to winning it was

852
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:09,599
it was awesome. So I think
that really helped my confidence, and yeah,

853
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:16,679
I feel good. Origin Yeah,
I wanted to be a goalie until

854
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:21,679
I played goalie for practice once my
dad was out and he ripped one off

855
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,840
my chest and it hurt pretty bad. So I've never wanted to put on

856
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:30,199
the pass ever since then. Your
dad different, very different. He's more

857
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,719
of a two hundred foot center,
really good skater, really strong. I

858
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,679
have a couple more inches on him. I think. I think I'm more

859
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:43,199
offensively gifted, So I would say
that about our game. He'd fight and

860
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:51,119
stuff. I'm not fighting yet,
but I would have been seven, I

861
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:53,360
think, Yeah, I was young. Two of them went to Pittsburgh.

862
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,400
That's neat, And does the team
that drafted any of those guys you just

863
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,559
talked about, does that move the
needle upward down at all for their fantasy

864
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:05,920
value? Thin because some team's got
a better track record or prospect pools are

865
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,039
a little bit more shallow and it's
less roster competition. Maybe. Yeah.

866
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:12,440
I think with Tanner how going to
Pittsburgh, I think that's a great fit.

867
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,599
They've had multiple guys in there that
can provide that smarts and skill and

868
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:19,440
shot from the wing. They've had
some guys that have been filling those guys.

869
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:22,079
He's a Brian rust player. He's
a guy that can really move up

870
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:24,760
the lineup depending right and I think
he's more of a third line talent guy

871
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,239
that could move up the roster in
the right spot because he can fill in

872
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,239
gaps. We saw it with Connor
Brigard and then with the Flames too,

873
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:34,559
and they're completely rebuilding their roster and
the one thing that they got in Andrew

874
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:37,000
Basha is speed. It's speed on
the wing. Like he's a smart player.

875
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,119
They have a whole bunch of guys
there, but they don't have any

876
00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:43,400
guy that really has the speed of
Basha. So he brings that element that

877
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,400
could move him up that lineup too. All right, well, we're gonna

878
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,840
go back to you. And alfhounds
Free is one of the top offensive defenseman

879
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,960
who went a little bit later.
He went thirty seven to Winnipeg and his

880
00:57:54,039 --> 00:57:58,360
media availability, he described himself as
a two way guy that leans more offense.

881
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,199
How high do you think that offense
can and how much can it translate

882
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,599
to NHL and fantasy. I think
it's about as high as you can find.

883
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:06,599
I look at the way that he
generates offense, and I think that

884
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:10,000
there's a really good example of a
modern offensive defenseman there, with the sort

885
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:14,480
of footwork and the skill level and
just how high energy he is on the

886
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:17,519
blue line, especially in the offensive
zone, and really creative pushes in the

887
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:22,199
offensive zone. And I think in
a way that most guys this year didn't,

888
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,320
especially the sort of Canadian North American
guys who scored a lot of points,

889
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,800
and I just think he brings something
else to that. And I think

890
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,880
he also is a guy who does
bring some two way ability, especially defending

891
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,239
a little aggressively in the neutral zone
and the defensive zone maybe need a bit

892
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,519
of work, but he generally avoids
playing there in the first place with how

893
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:40,639
he plays in the neutral zone woon
neutral zone, and I think there's a

894
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:44,360
lot of value there. And yeah, if you're looking for offense, he's

895
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,239
a guy I'm certainly willing to bet
on, especially in the thirty to forty

896
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:52,480
range. Alfonse Free Winnipeg, maybe
the Babe Wagner or other. I think

897
00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:54,360
there's a few Swedish prospects in the
system. Are you familiar with any of

898
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:59,119
the other ones as well, not
familiar just with Zelias. So yeah,

899
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:01,639
how would you describe I would describe
my game as a two A defender that

900
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,960
is like more offensive to have have
the park, good skinning ability to set

901
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:09,320
up my team is in good position
out there, as I said, to

902
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:15,000
have the park on my blade.
But the season, yeah, I'm being

903
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:19,800
loaned out from the highest level in
in Sweden, shl. I'm being loaned

904
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,639
out to the second tier in Sweden
for pure clean Yeah, and they think

905
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:27,719
about that is to to get the
minutes in power play five or five in

906
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,800
box play as well, and I
think that's a pretty pretty smart move for

907
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:37,559
me become your passion. My dad
has has played hockey as well. That's

908
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:43,000
that's why I started. Yeah,
he has always been been on my way

909
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:47,880
and and stuff like that. So
that's that's pretty cool. Peter Frey not

910
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:53,280
not on the highest level in Sweden. It was like probably third fourth division

911
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:59,039
in Sweden, so it's nothing specially
about it. You get to see him

912
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:04,639
player, yeah, every day,
so yeah, from morning the night was

913
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:08,360
at the rink with him and spend
time there. He has been my coach

914
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:14,480
as well, so that's pretty cool. Night. Also, your last name

915
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,199
yeah, I've been here for three
days now. I was on a camp

916
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:22,079
with my agency for yeah, one
week ago in Toronto, but yeah,

917
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:27,480
came here three days ago, like
my agent had told me for twenty to

918
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:30,199
forty. So that was my expectations. Yeah, I would say, of

919
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:35,119
course, be more more able to
do like better things in the O zone.

920
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,039
But yeah, my my defensive game, I would say, and needs

921
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:39,760
to step up, use my size
a bit more. Like I know,

922
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,920
I got such a good skalning ability, but to use my size a bit

923
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,320
more, especially now when I'm playing
with men. So yeah, skating always

924
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,320
a strength I've worked Yeah, since
I was a little kid, like every

925
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,679
day, but it has always been
like my strength. But yeah, I've

926
01:00:54,719 --> 01:00:58,599
worked on it a lot as well. Have my favorite defenseman or somebody who

927
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:01,000
looked up to every one of Yeah, Queen Queen News has always been like

928
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:06,280
my my favorite defenseman in NHL.
But when I was like a little kid,

929
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:12,559
watched Eric Carlson Victor headman. Yeah, of course, that's one one

930
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:15,519
of my goals to be able to
play that this season. As I said

931
01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:20,800
earlier, I'm trying to be more. I would I say it'd be better

932
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,880
at that to use my size a
bit more. Good, I got pretty

933
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,480
good size. Yeah, use my
size a bit more and be more physical.

934
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:31,239
Do you have any questions that you
remember? Oh yeah, yeah,

935
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,920
probably my Uber rating and my snap
score. Yeah that was I don't know

936
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,760
why they asked me that, but
it was pretty pretty fun. What did

937
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,920
you say? What's the raider?
We don't have like uber in Sweden,

938
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:46,079
so I couldn't answer, but yeah, I don't know. My my snap

939
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:50,000
score was like probably one million.
That was pretty much. I would say

940
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:52,400
that was my answers. Can one
more guy for you? Joe from the

941
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:59,280
Got Julius Mitnen was drafted by the
Seattle Kraken in second round. I want

942
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,800
to say, yep, fortieth overall. You know he's a big winger,

943
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:08,239
forward, point a game guy in
the WHL. What's it comparable from previous

944
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:13,159
drafts maybe or someone you? How
are you projecting him? What a fantasy

945
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,400
people who have him on their radar, what should they expect? I think

946
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,440
basically, if you're trying to project
him to the NHL, you have to

947
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,280
get him more accustomed to the North
American game, which means that his physicality

948
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,920
and his ability to kind of rub
shoulders along the boards and needs to be

949
01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:29,920
way more consistent. If you can
get that a guy with his length of

950
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,280
stride, smart's finesse, his touch, if you can get him to be

951
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,599
more aggressive and to be stopping more
players as much as he can be able

952
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:39,199
to finish plays, I think right
now for me, he's a similar player

953
01:02:39,239 --> 01:02:43,920
to a Christian vessel Linen, somebody
who came into the NHL but really couldn't

954
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,760
find his place. And so I
think with Julius, if you can get

955
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,760
him to be more aggressive, get
more into players' faces, not back down

956
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,880
more consistently, He's got all sorts
of skills to be able to potentially project,

957
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,760
but he does have to change his
game in altar. But the finesse

958
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,239
is there, the smarts is there, skatings there. So an auto draft

959
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,599
player if you miss your draft,
and if you get that, then you

960
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:09,400
should trade him because his value is
not going to go in the direction you

961
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,760
want. I think the reality is
that there's a lot of players in this

962
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,639
second round where it's just the second
round is about players with huge tools in

963
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:22,760
huge upside that have to they have
to now adapt to play pro, and

964
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,639
it's playing pro in North America is
a very interesting one. And there's a

965
01:03:25,679 --> 01:03:29,400
lot of players like this. I
think you mentioned Ottawa. I think Zako

966
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,360
Stapchek is one that's that he had
to learn. He had tons of an

967
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,880
ass tons of skill and he had
to learn how to adapt his game to

968
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,519
be a full time NHL and we'll
see. He's a player that had a

969
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:40,960
huge upside. And I think Vietnen
is somewhere in that mold. Yeah,

970
01:03:42,239 --> 01:03:44,880
that's the second time I've heard that
statement today, That second round and on

971
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:49,519
guy's got to need to adapt their
game in order to make it. That's

972
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:53,239
interesting. All right. One more
for you, and that is William Villeneuve.

973
01:03:53,559 --> 01:04:00,880
He's he got taken sixty third overall
by Seattle. His he was rated

974
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:03,000
a little bit lower by a lot
of outlets. Third maybe even fourth round

975
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:06,719
kind of guy. He's a five
to eleven or ninety four pounds center wing.

976
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,760
What do you think about him and
his prospects. I think he's just

977
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,480
going to get better from here.
He's a guy who I watched in Sudbury

978
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:16,480
a ton this year and I think, especially for an all around guy who

979
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:18,480
can crash and bang in the NHL, I think there's going to be a

980
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,800
guy there He's got some real high
end pace in his game. He's got

981
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,320
a lot of skill for a guy
who may not have scored a ton this

982
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,960
year, but he's physical. Man, he really gives her. There's a

983
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,039
lot of physicality in his game,
almost to a fault, I would say,

984
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,400
but I think it's a way that
I think an NHL team really saw

985
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,199
in Seattle. I don't doubt a
lot of what they do. And a

986
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,719
lead second round pick for a guy
who might be a bottom six center or

987
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,599
maybe a winger who can just battle
and grind and has some skill, I

988
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,360
don't know. I've liked Villeneuve all
year, more than I thought I would,

989
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,719
And yeah, I was pleasantly surprised
to see him pick there. And

990
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:54,199
yeah, I think Seattle did well. Has Zamra a little bit more upside

991
01:04:54,239 --> 01:04:56,960
for points there? What do you
think is kind of ceiling is there?

992
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,920
I think so, because I think
the big fault with him, at least

993
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:02,599
in my experience, was he's a
guy who plays really really rambunctious game,

994
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,159
really high energy, but just doesn't
get to scoring areas a whole lot.

995
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,320
You know, he can fight guys
off, but he just doesn't quite get

996
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,920
inside as much. And I think
the more he does that, the better

997
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,239
off he'll be because around the perimeter
and just for checking and pinning guys in

998
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,480
the offensive zone, he does that
so well. And it's just such a

999
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:23,519
physical dude that I don't know,
I feel like there's got to be something

1000
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:25,719
for him. You give him a
few years in the OHL, he'll play

1001
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:28,760
a ton of minutes. I don't
know. I've really enjoyed him and where

1002
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,920
he went I think makes a lot
of sense. Hey, thanks guys,

1003
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,880
letting you guys got some post draft
work coming out that listeners can can look

1004
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,559
for. Yeah, so if anyone
subscribed to Buck Preps that we basically have

1005
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:44,119
our up to date profiles on those
sorts of things, we'll probably do my

1006
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:45,960
sense of a coverage from this.
But the reality is there's players who are

1007
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:50,519
that got picked from the BCCHL going
to Clarkson and other places around and there's

1008
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:55,159
just a it's a wonderful group of
kids that it's just seemed like it made

1009
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:57,480
sense from the West forst. If
you want to know more about these types

1010
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:00,280
of players, their long term projections, where they've come from, you can

1011
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,800
see scouting reports from two to three
years ago on a lot of these guys

1012
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,239
as well. Head over to Puck
perhaps find yourself a monthly subscription and and

1013
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:10,159
find all the value there about you
Scotch. I'm also at puck Creps as

1014
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:12,119
well. I would say if you
want to get a lead on maybe the

1015
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:14,320
next year's draft in the year after, you can also check that out.

1016
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,960
We've got summer coverage of camps and
everything coming out there. But for me

1017
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:19,679
and I'll be doing a video series
on every team who they pick. I've

1018
01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:23,920
got to take some time to go
through it all and break man. Yeah,

1019
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,840
take a little bit of while go
and watch all the guys. There's

1020
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,239
a bunch of guys that got picked
that I have not seen enough of to

1021
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,039
really know what I'm talking about.
So it'll take some time to get through

1022
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:32,679
that. And but there that'll be
coming soon and then we're gonna have stuff

1023
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:35,280
coming out all summer for sure.
Awesome, Thanks so much, guys.

1024
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:44,719
Thanks to we'll get a drink strong
draft. And also Din that pick is

1025
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,079
a little earlier. I don't know
how much I'm allowed to say at this

1026
01:06:49,199 --> 01:06:54,960
point, but I think it's looking
very good about the contract. As far

1027
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:58,599
as development camp, I don't think
that's a possibility. Just there's a lot

1028
01:06:58,639 --> 01:07:01,920
of logistics that have to go in, just immigration, visa, all that

1029
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,320
stuff. I don't have a timeline
as far as when we expect him in

1030
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:10,320
Philadelphia, but it's it's looking good, it's moving in the right direction.

1031
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,880
I can't just buy respect for those
teams, but it's your job and it's

1032
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,960
their job to look with what's out
there. There's definitely traction for with a

1033
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,920
few of them, at least two
that I thought we were going in the

1034
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,239
right direction, and then again the
board kind of went sideways a little bit,

1035
01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:30,639
and guys, we have our players
that we really want, so they

1036
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:34,920
weren't willing to move their pick,
so we just kept going. You mentioned

1037
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,599
that you think more that the Chengo
is just scratching the surface. I'm assuming

1038
01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:44,119
you view him as a guy with
extremely high upside and absolutely why do you

1039
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:45,599
see him as a guy that maybe
has top of the line on offside.

1040
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,599
First of all, his work ethic. If you watch him play, he's

1041
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:53,480
he's always one of the hardest worker
both sides of the ice. His vision,

1042
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:58,440
his hockey sense or high end.
There's obviously some things that will work

1043
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,440
with him to develop and increase,
but to have a guy's understand already both

1044
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,559
sides of the ice the way he
does, and then you look the way

1045
01:08:05,719 --> 01:08:10,280
he played. It was a team
that just barely made the playoffs. I

1046
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:14,039
think in Gwelph he was the motor
for that team. If you watch that

1047
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:16,439
him play, he drove the play. He was a play driver. So

1048
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,199
that's really exciting for us. How
much did the under eight teams play as

1049
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:26,359
the decision there have a really struggled
one. Yeah, we didn't want him

1050
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:29,039
to play too well. We were
trying to keep him hidden. Our guys

1051
01:08:29,119 --> 01:08:33,079
were really high on him really early
in the season, and he just kept

1052
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:39,520
getting better and you saw his stock
just kept increasing. So we were not

1053
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,159
too excited about that, the fact
that he kept climbing up because at first

1054
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:47,239
early in the season, we thought
he could have been a later pick for

1055
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,039
us, our second pick in the
first round, but in the second half

1056
01:08:51,119 --> 01:08:56,119
of the year, clearly just hearing
all the other teams talk about it,

1057
01:08:57,039 --> 01:09:00,960
I got in trouble by a few
teams already given me crap for taking him

1058
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:05,600
ahead of a few of them.
Perry Trotz National Gym this year and the

1059
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:11,479
next year, and it sets us
up for success going forward. I think

1060
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:15,039
most players that come into the league
right now, there's a lot of players

1061
01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:19,399
that are centers that move over the
wing. But we drafted him primarily to

1062
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:31,720
be a centerment for us. No, I think our scouts I didn't see

1063
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:38,359
any of our scouts had done a
really good thorough background check all those things.

1064
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,239
You meet the kid right away,
you know that if there was any

1065
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:45,680
issues, it was just because they
were so young. But no, you

1066
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:51,039
could tell he's a solid kid,
a young man. Oh. He because

1067
01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:56,159
he's competitive. And I think over
there, the number one thing over there

1068
01:09:56,359 --> 01:10:00,479
is when you play a different style
than most guys there there is a i'll

1069
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,000
say a piece of some of those
players that want to get a little piece

1070
01:10:04,039 --> 01:10:06,840
of them back. That's what we
like about him is that he has an

1071
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:11,239
effect on the game. We've got
a few players like that. Zach LaRue,

1072
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:15,680
who we drafted, has some of
that that. The high skill obviously

1073
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,199
was with the leading score American Hockey
League playoffs for a good portion until if

1074
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:24,279
Milwaukee lost out in the conference finals
and then he finally got passed by someone

1075
01:10:24,319 --> 01:10:28,039
them. So we love those guys
that have some of that combination of grit

1076
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:30,479
and spit if you will. And
if you have that combination, you're probably

1077
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,920
gonna have some people trying to come
at you a little bit. We don't

1078
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,600
mind that at all. Of course, certain give a smart process and for

1079
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,920
me also a problem if I will
fight draft. It's really interesting. I

1080
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:47,520
talked it to the Dimita simaschef and
that he was in the Nashville and he

1081
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:53,279
said me, it's really good here. And also I like this place now.

1082
01:10:53,800 --> 01:11:00,720
And I think many players will remember
this celebration, all life players.

1083
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:11,439
So there's some to the field.
Oh yeah, I think made. And

1084
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,840
also I have one barbershop for me. Is this players really good? And

1085
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:20,279
these two players have a Stanley Cup
and really good and I will try all

1086
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:30,159
Trevor Connolly, Yeah, what do
you want to tell people who are concerned

1087
01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:32,479
to make us the nets Man's back? You know you're gonna get that you

1088
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,079
want you? Yeah, just that
I've worked through. I think I've made

1089
01:11:35,119 --> 01:11:39,279
mistakes as a kid, and that
I'm such a different person now. I

1090
01:11:39,319 --> 01:11:42,680
think I'm really mature and super like
mature for my age. I think I've

1091
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,560
done a lot in the community and
got involved, and I think this whole

1092
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,880
process has been a learning process for
me, I think that I think everything

1093
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,520
happens for a reason. I think
I've been put through these past couple of

1094
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,239
years for a reason. I think
that it's all going to work out for

1095
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:57,279
the best of me, and just
began that I'll do anything for the organization

1096
01:11:57,399 --> 01:12:00,800
and anything to the people, and
I'm super excited against her. All the

1097
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,119
pre draft conversations, How surprising was
it that it was Vegas And how many

1098
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:08,960
conversations I guess did you have as
Yeah, I had some really good conversations

1099
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,880
with them at the combine and then
earlier this week and kind of during the

1100
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,479
year, I had a good talks
with them as well. So I think

1101
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,039
they were really high on character and
what person was I am. And I

1102
01:12:17,079 --> 01:12:19,840
think they did a lot of research
and a lot of digging, and I

1103
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,159
don't think they would affect me if
they didn't think I was the right fit

1104
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:26,560
for the organization. So I think
the talks we had together and the back

1105
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,399
and forth was really good and I
think we connected really well. Obviously,

1106
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,359
the next goal to get to the
NHL, right, So what was that

1107
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,880
for you? To work? Going
accel on what over the next hoping?

1108
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:39,119
Yeah, I think I need to
get stronger. I think that's the main

1109
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:41,199
thing for me, is put on
some weight before I get to the pro

1110
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:44,239
levels. I think these next year
or two at Providence is really going to

1111
01:12:44,279 --> 01:12:49,800
help me with that. Words can
tell us until quite in terms, such

1112
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:55,399
a question from Massachusetts Keviy fils Had. Yeah, I think I'm not going

1113
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,039
to go into too much detail because
I don't know if they want me sharing

1114
01:12:58,119 --> 01:13:00,760
that, but just figuring out what
I like to do off the ice,

1115
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:01,720
what I like to do on the
ice, who I hang out with,

1116
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,279
what I do in my free time, Just that type of stuff. I

1117
01:13:05,359 --> 01:13:09,439
think that kind of play making and
goal scoring. I think I do both.

1118
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,279
I think I like to use my
plays. I like setting up teammates,

1119
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:14,680
and I think also when I get
a chance to pull one in,

1120
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,319
I use my shot. And I
think that my shot is one of my

1121
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,520
things. I want to get better
as well this summer. So I think

1122
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,600
my game translates well. I think
my skating is the biggest thing for me

1123
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,520
that's gonna help me translate to the
next level. Yeah, I think I

1124
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,880
want to be like a top six
power play penalty colling forward, and I

1125
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,600
think I want to have an impact
to being a good playoff player is a

1126
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,079
big thing for me. I think
I want to take steps and be like

1127
01:13:33,119 --> 01:13:36,399
a really dominant playoff player and at
the next level. And I think off

1128
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:40,039
the ice, I think the thing
of mind that I've liked to talk about

1129
01:13:40,119 --> 01:13:43,399
with my parents the past couple of
years is start maybe starting my own foundation

1130
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,560
when I'm older. So I think
that's something for sure to look forward to

1131
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,239
in the future for me. I
actually my little brother wore number twenty four

1132
01:13:49,359 --> 01:13:54,079
two years ago, so maybe that. Yeah. Yeah, I like hockey

1133
01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:57,399
kids of color, like kids in
need of like hockey equipment or things like

1134
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,920
that. I think that's like a
big thing. Anything like something with Hawk

1135
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:03,720
be like giving back to younger kids. I think with Providence and Tri City,

1136
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,239
I think that those are both programs
that kind of don't take like low

1137
01:14:08,359 --> 01:14:12,640
level character kids. Especially Providence with
Nate Lehman and that organization, they really

1138
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,039
keen on character and just how you
treat your teammates and how you are around

1139
01:14:15,039 --> 01:14:18,279
the ranking around the like the team
and the guys. So I think that

1140
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,479
kind of teams really got to know
me as a person. I think maybe

1141
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,640
they spend more time with me than
other kids, just because I've had issues

1142
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,159
in the past, but I think
that just like Vegas, just how much

1143
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,880
trust they showed me, like especially
picking me, it means so much dream

1144
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,800
I think I could go higher.
Maybe some of this stuff didn't happen,

1145
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:54,720
but I'm honestly the happiest could ever
with where I got selected. So I

1146
01:14:54,920 --> 01:15:00,399
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1147
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,479
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