1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,599 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:24,679 in the UK and around the world. Welcome to the big Foot and the 3 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:29,239 Funny. This is a couple's journey into the mysterious, the unknown and the 4 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,799 paranormal. I'm your host, Chris car and I'm your host Kristin Johnson. 5 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:44,119 Together we are big Foot and the Bunny. Welcome to big Foot and the 6 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:48,119 Bunny. I'm your host Chris car and I am Kristin Johnson. Today, 7 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:52,439 Happy Saturday, Happy Saturday. As you guys can see, we are together. 8 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,960 We are back when things are great. You know, we have an 9 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,000 awesome show, very slight for this, but we are so happy to be 10 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:03,560 here and so happy that you guys are joining us. We want to talk 11 00:01:03,599 --> 00:01:08,400 about our guests and bring them on pretty quickly because we have a lot to 12 00:01:08,439 --> 00:01:12,799 talk about. These guys. They are part of what is called the IDC 13 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,000 Institute Mission Project, and we're going to talk about that in a minute. 14 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,280 But individually, we are featuring Skyray. Medium Sky Ray, who is born 15 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,799 as Amy Caprio in Central Pennsylvania. Skyray is a natural born psychic medium. 16 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:32,959 She is a spiritual healer, teacher, psychic advisor, counselor evidential medium, 17 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:37,239 and that's something we've talked about. That's an ability to produce evidence of your 18 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:45,280 mediumship self transformational coach. A freends Nick forens Nick Hello Chris Can I speak 19 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:51,040 psychic medium. She works with law enforcement or unsolved or missing person cases. 20 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:55,120 Donating time to help solve missing person cases is one of the two ways she 21 00:01:55,159 --> 00:02:00,640 gives back to a community. J W. Praither Prather is the owner, 22 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,480 founder, designer, and builder of IDC Devices. Paranormal Investigative equipment is no 23 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,639 stranger the paranormal and with over thirty years of experience working with electrical components and 24 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:15,360 electronics, he has been creating personalized paranormal equipment since twenty ten. Jay is 25 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:21,080 not your typical equipment builder, though his equipment is experimental and meant for the 26 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,719 seasoned investigators that focus on data research and correlation among different techniques used in an 27 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:32,400 investigation. So their mission statement as IDC is our goal is to explore the 28 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:39,599 depths of supernatural mechanisms using quantum physics and mechanics the metaphysical, a combination of 29 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:47,599 ancient techniques advanced technologies, as well as previously classified government research to experiment with 30 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,159 space, time and alternate realities. And if you're a fan of the show, 31 00:02:53,199 --> 00:03:00,879 you know this is just like up made first and KT Stafford and how 32 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,039 to to make the measurements and everything. So this is going to be wonderful. 33 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:12,039 All right, let's going on. Hello, guys, welcome, We're 34 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,840 doing great. We're very excited to have you on and hear about your project 35 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,159 in yourselves personally and how this all came together. I know, Jay, 36 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,039 I did I pronounce you your last name Rob is a prothor pray. I 37 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:30,879 should have aday, Thank you, sir. I'm sorry I should have asked 38 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:37,479 you that. Well, we're just talking backstage. Uh, Jay, you 39 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,479 have a video, as guy sent me where you kind of break down what 40 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,599 this project is about. And I don't know if maybe you want to surmise 41 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,360 a little of that, the different components of what's going into this because it's 42 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,240 a big project. We're not talking about uh you know, all right, 43 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 we formed a paranormal team and we're going to a haunted house. There's a 44 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,960 lot of stuff, a lot of moving parts in this. Yes. Um, 45 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:03,400 of course us started out as just a builder, designing equipment. Of 46 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:10,960 course, I was a retired master electrician. I knew about testing the environment. 47 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:16,279 I've been an electrical all my life, and I started out designing equipment 48 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:23,079 that I thought that other investigators would want to use. And it was equipment 49 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,319 that I definitely wanted to use. And let's face it, most equipment that 50 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:30,519 we would love to use on investigation sites, we just can't afford it. 51 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:35,360 It's really high tech equipment. It's very expensive. So that's where I started, 52 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:44,399 and over the years working with this equipment, my theories kept growing, 53 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:48,240 the equipment keep growing, kept growing to where I'm at the point where I'm 54 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:55,800 at I am now with the IDEC Institute. IDC Devices is where I came 55 00:04:55,879 --> 00:05:00,319 from. IDEC Institute is basically what I'm doing now, and I'm building a 56 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:06,639 designing equipment that will allow us to go out into the field and run these 57 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:15,160 experiments. Based on what you just said about our mission statement. It allows 58 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:23,319 us to delve into both sides, the metaphysical as well as modern known sciences. 59 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,319 But we look at the ancient sciences. We looked at we look at, 60 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:32,879 you know, everything that's come before, everything that we have now. 61 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:41,480 We also look at everything that government releases. We look at that see how 62 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,160 it fits in with our theories. And then but here's the biggest difference. 63 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Most of everything that's done when investigate our research now is done in laboratories, 64 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,040 whether it's in institutes, universities, or the government. They do it and 65 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,519 control laboratories. I'm just crazy enough to take all that, flip it on 66 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:10,600 its heads, create my own experiments, and then we take it out into 67 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:18,560 these known purported locations where people are experiencing stuff, and that's where we perform 68 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:27,040 our experiments is on site in those locations. That's excellent. So you're saying 69 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:30,480 you're taking things from like the laboratories of Saint Paras Psychology, places like the 70 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,439 Monroe Institute h Dean Aiden's work, and taking that out into the field to 71 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:42,759 experience it in real time exactly everything that they that that we've that I've been 72 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,399 able to get my hands on that fits my theories, or even if it 73 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:54,399 doesn't fit my theories, I look at it in my calculations as I'm going 74 00:06:54,439 --> 00:07:00,759 along to try to figure out, you know, there's something there lake such 75 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,279 as I don't have a collider. I wish I did a thing that I 76 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:14,879 don't, but the hatrid collider they discovered the Higgs boson. Well, for 77 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:20,480 years I've hypothesized that something had to be slowing us down and speeding us up. 78 00:07:20,959 --> 00:07:25,240 And I was like, well, God's doing it, or a creator 79 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:30,560 or whatever. However, no offense to anybody whatever you decide jumping slowing us 80 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,160 down. Well, now we know that they describe the Higgs boson as the 81 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:44,519 God particle, and it's supposedly will add mass to photons in order to slow 82 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,279 those down so that they're not faster than the speed of light. It determines 83 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:54,360 the weight of the particle. Yes, it just adds mass. Well to 84 00:07:54,399 --> 00:08:00,639 me, if God the Creator, a creator wanted to slow us down to 85 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:05,199 where we live for fifty to one hundred years, he would use something like 86 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:11,959 that in order to slow us down so we discover love, death, grief, 87 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,439 ecstasy, desires, all of these things that he wanted us to experience. 88 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:24,000 He would do something like the Higgs boasting. When we look at spirit 89 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:30,360 spirit matter, some people can't say spirit matter, but spirit and matter are 90 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:35,200 different, but they were both created equally. So spirit, whether you say 91 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:43,200 energy, psyche, spirit, whatever, all of that energy was created in 92 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,600 the blink of an eye. You could say God did it in genesis or 93 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:50,039 you could say there was a big bang. Either way, all the energy 94 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,679 that was ever going to be created was created at that moment and it continues 95 00:08:54,759 --> 00:09:05,559 to travel forever. Matter also is energy of a vibration, which he's so 96 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:11,559 so frequent of the vibration and where he's going is what we're trying to do 97 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:18,200 with the conscious, the different conscious levels is we're either trying to match or 98 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:26,320 raise the frequency within these experiments to get the clients. How do I want 99 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:33,679 to say that Jay, whatever the client is looking to produce for theirselves, 100 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:39,879 for their knowledge, because we're here to teach and help them in a high 101 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:46,519 speed versus in a quick class. You know, I've been teaching classes internationally 102 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,919 for years. But what him and I coming together have figured out we can 103 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:56,080 do this at a faster rate to reach more people and to help more people, 104 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,639 and it helps people in their daily lives in every area of their life. 105 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:07,279 With these experiments, it's not just we're ghost hunting. We're not ghost 106 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:13,759 hunters. We're researchers, were venors. We create. There's a big friends. 107 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:18,200 I love this and just for our audience to clarify, you're trying to 108 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:24,120 speak or communicate with a raise your frequency to the consciousness of either maybe a 109 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,879 deceased human or some sort of non humanity in the particular environment. Is that 110 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:33,960 everything has a frequency, everything has a vis. I don't use the word 111 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,480 ghosts, and now I'm going to upset some people. Right now, there's 112 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:43,440 those things a ghost. All of us have always existed, and we will 113 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:52,279 always exist. What matters is when our photons or tacions, which tacions were 114 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:58,399 theoretical, when we slow down our speed up, so we all the religions, 115 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,960 all the religions are really true and correct in the fact that we can 116 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:09,279 have past lives future lives. But I go even farther than to say, 117 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,480 well, we can have a life to the left or to the right, 118 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,600 or up or down. It's not just a life that I've lived now. 119 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:22,799 Now I could also live a life in a completely different dimension or on a 120 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:30,240 completely different planet, in a completely different body. Energy cannot be created nor 121 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,519 destroyed. That's Einstein, that's thought, JW. That's Einstein. So everything 122 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:43,120 that's been created was created in that moment. Now matter changes. That's the 123 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,519 difference between spirit or energy or psyche or whatever and matter. Matter changes. 124 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,600 Energy can change but they are separate, but they can come together. In 125 00:11:56,639 --> 00:12:00,919 other words, right now, i'm matter and I'm in, and I've come 126 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,159 together to be this handsome fellow you see in front of it. But once 127 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,240 you separate those two or give me another twenty years, and it won't be 128 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:16,559 exactly the same. But yet my energy will always be there. My energy 129 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,960 will go on from here because it's always existed. So I don't necessarily like 130 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:28,360 to use the word ghost I'm not a ghost hunter. I don't look for 131 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,120 them. I don't I don't investigate them. I research energy and how we 132 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:39,799 can transverse this. And I would't even say universe, because universe doesn't even 133 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:46,639 fully cover everything that's out there. When we leave here, we don't stay 134 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:52,879 in this universe, we go beyond it. That's right. We don't like 135 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,480 the term ghost hunter, And you don't mean any offense to anyone when we 136 00:12:56,519 --> 00:13:01,440 say that. No, no, not. Everything's labeled in their human terms, 137 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,919 and I don't want anybody getting confused. So I'm not trying to upset 138 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,639 anybody. I'm simply saying that I don't want anybody to get confused about what 139 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,559 I'm doing. I'm not I'm not. That's just not what I do. 140 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:20,639 But there's nothing wrong with it. It's just not what I do. And 141 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:26,120 it's hard for people to wrap their heads around what I do. Usually when 142 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:30,720 I start talking, their eyes roll back in their head and they walk away 143 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:35,200 because it's just too much. Yeah, no, we'll take it. We'll 144 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,120 take it. So we'll break it down because you know, you guys have 145 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,919 a lot of stuff going on and there's a lot of aspects to it. 146 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,279 Scott, do you want to speak to your end of the project, in 147 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:52,039 the metaphysical side that you're bringing in. Well, like I said, um, 148 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,159 you know before we came on, when Jay and I first had met 149 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,639 ended our first film together, we knew it there was some thing we had 150 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,840 to work on together, and it's in terms of energy, um, the 151 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,639 knowledge and with the metaphysical part of it. We wanted to be able to 152 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:18,200 create the altered states of consciousness, but we want to we want to be 153 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:26,039 able to try to use human participants and get them ready. So my part 154 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,559 is to get them prepared and to read their energy, read the energy of 155 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,159 the building, the property. Anything that I get that that comes in with 156 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:43,159 my guides will tie in with whatever Jay needs and I work simultaneously with him 157 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:50,879 and the team to bring that together. I don't know, Jay, you 158 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:54,960 can probably speak better for it. You know, it's hard for me to 159 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,279 speak because mind's more of like a knowing mine is my my gifts. It's 160 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:07,559 hard for me to explain, um, how how it is that I'm working, 161 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:11,120 And Jay did a lot of stuff that I was behind the scenes because 162 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:18,200 my daughter had been diagnosed with cancer, you know, during our first experimental 163 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:26,240 process. So you can probably explain better for me. Virtue when you give 164 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:31,720 Saron and Jay explain how it fits in. You're are a psychic medium. 165 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:35,200 I know you give classes as well. I just wanted to go a little 166 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,279 bit there you are, Yeah, yeah, and I and I teach. 167 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,399 You know, I've written a book. It's seven time best selling author. 168 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:48,120 Um what I do in that it's an introductory book. I am still writing 169 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:52,639 more and we are writing another one day, and I are published in another 170 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:58,399 book as well. Um. It was a companion piece from the documentary that 171 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,519 we had done from the prior film still in post production. But as far 172 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:12,639 as my life experiences, I've got three decades of training with consciousness, the 173 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:18,960 subconscious level, the unconscious level. You know, we can go on and 174 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:23,799 on. But what I had to learn to do was learn my specific skill 175 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:30,360 set and where that came in. That came in with my part time or 176 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:34,679 full time jobs. Throughout my three four decades. I'm not going to say 177 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:41,720 how old I am, but I was always working and helping people. And 178 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:47,720 while I did that, I discovered what I was good at. Like with 179 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:53,919 the forensic mediumship, trans mediumship, physical mediumship, there's not just one way 180 00:16:55,039 --> 00:17:00,679 or one thing that I can do. I can be comfortable enough to not 181 00:17:00,879 --> 00:17:07,039 limit myself by fear stopping me with anything to do with researching and trying to 182 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:12,480 find that knowledge that we've all been trying to do for how many decades? 183 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:18,359 And it's not going anywhere. You're seeing the same ship, the same people, 184 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:22,920 doing the same things and the same experiments. And that's just not what 185 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:27,839 I wanted to do. Even with the mediumship. Yes I do mediumship readings. 186 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,640 Yes I do the psychic readings. Not every This is something people need 187 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:42,079 to know. Not every psychic is a medium, right they don't know that. 188 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,000 People don't know the difference between the psychic and a medium, right, 189 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,319 don't the medium I work with forensics, Jay and I both have background in 190 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,160 criminal law, criminal justice, and psychology, which on a whim was weird 191 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,960 that we discovered this after we've you know, learned who we were when we 192 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,240 got to know each other. But everything up until now that we've done in 193 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:12,599 our lives has played out to be what it is right now for the future 194 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:18,880 to come, and what we want to be able to do is everything I've 195 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,359 ever learned, everything I've ever experienced, that is my library. That is 196 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,680 how I have I've had a hard life, so I have a bigger range 197 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,000 of energy where I can expand it a little bit further and understand things a 198 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:40,160 little bit deeper. And I'm not afraid to see or find out what I 199 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,839 see or find out. So with the mediumship, there are different levels with 200 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,319 the psychic people of the past pleasant in the future. You know, they're 201 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,119 just that's your intuition, that's you get that from your claris. Mediums have 202 00:18:52,160 --> 00:19:00,759 their claies. The difference absolutely, things like psychic abok you approved in laboratories 203 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:04,720 by people like jb Ryan. Yeah. Yeah, there are so many tests 204 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,519 that have been done in statistics, right, so they go and they look 205 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:11,759 and as well, you can predict this so many times in a row that 206 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:15,519 just seems beyond you know, the natural mathematical ability to do so. But 207 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:21,720 speaking using as clear as hearing the voices, being able to communicate with some 208 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:26,160 sort of consciousness that isn't there in the room. That's it's a trust. 209 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:30,119 It's a trust, and it takes a lot of years. It took me 210 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:37,440 three decades to build that trust um to then see the results and then trust 211 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:42,200 that and believe in myself. You have to believe in yourself number one. 212 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Right, absolutely do need one person to believe in you other than yourself, 213 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:56,720 and that helps more than two can run more than right now, probably thirty 214 00:19:56,759 --> 00:20:03,359 different experiments on a very large level, up to eighty acres right now, 215 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,960 a seventy thousand square foot building is nothing for me to come out and completely 216 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:18,039 wire this building back to my central computer and monitor everything that's going on in 217 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:26,759 that building both by audio and video. But about ten of those experiments involve 218 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:36,240 human participants. Those human participants is where Sky comes in and helping. Because 219 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,640 I don't I keep being told I have a sub kind of abilities. I 220 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:47,039 haven't been able to really hold those. I think my abilities more or less 221 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:52,839 are involved in being able to design and build the equipment and then run experiments 222 00:20:52,880 --> 00:21:00,079 with it. But Sky can help me with the humans who are involved in 223 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:06,519 our experiments, what we call the participants. Now, I have discovered that 224 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:11,720 most participants will actually, as of right now, all participants that have been 225 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:18,440 involved in my experiments, even if they had no abilities at all, they 226 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:25,599 had experiences. Now, those experiences, some of them we could verify. 227 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:33,240 Some of those experiences we could not verify after the experiment, but they still 228 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:40,079 did affect the individual as well as the environment that we were conducting these experiments 229 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:44,519 in. So that's where Sky comes in. She helps me with the part 230 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,359 that I'm still a lot. Don't let me bullshit you. I'm still trying 231 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,599 to wrap my head around all of this. It's why we do what we 232 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:59,559 do. That I have an easier time wrapping my head around quantum physics than 233 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:06,519 I do wrapping my head exactly around what Sky's abilities are. So that's when 234 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:08,480 I set it down. I go, Okay, what are we doing here? 235 00:22:08,599 --> 00:22:11,920 What you're doing? How do you think you're doing it? And then 236 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:18,039 I take that and put it into my research and into what I'm doing when 237 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:25,519 I'm working with participants. How did that kind of that JWL. Yes, 238 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:32,400 it's a lot of conversations. It's and I still just I have a hard 239 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:38,400 time because I have theories about everything. That's why I don't sleep. I 240 00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:44,039 don't my brain never shuts down. I've got these theories I've got, I've 241 00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:48,279 gotten notebooks upon notebooks. The equipment I've built is only a part of the 242 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,559 equipment I want to build. There's more equipment than I want to build that 243 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,000 I may never build. And when I say equipment, I show up in 244 00:22:56,039 --> 00:23:00,319 a full trailer and I can wire a seventy thousand our foot building and about 245 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:04,559 a day and a half and run any experiment you could think of that's ever 246 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,720 been ran in a laboratory. I can run it on your building, run 247 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:12,920 extent mass. If you had an equipment list, maybe you can talk a 248 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,079 little bit about that, because I know in your Facebook post where you were 249 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,920 defining what the project does, there was a lot of things I wasn't familiar 250 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,319 with and some that we were familiar with. In there, we were familiar 251 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,920 with things like hemy sink, which I think is great that it's reaching a 252 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,400 you know, the quote unquote paranormal world, and we've done experiments ourselves with 253 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,079 that running multiple multiple channels us in heavy sink tones with like spirit box stuff. 254 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,759 You mentioned things like heavy water, and I'm not familiar with at all, 255 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:47,880 right, Like, how does that play? Heavy water? Heavy water 256 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,599 is really what they use to cool nuclear reactors. Heavy water takes a long 257 00:23:52,680 --> 00:24:02,000 time to create and it's very expensive to create. But some scientists have discovered 258 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:11,640 is that when they run photons lasers through the heavy water, these photons were 259 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:17,599 traveling faster than the speed of light somehow or another by sending the lasers to 260 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:23,039 the heavy water. If they were basically recreating the Higgs boson in reverse in 261 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:29,759 the way that they were removing mass from the photons allowing them to travel faster 262 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,079 to the speed of light. Frous like, well, shit, I gotta 263 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,480 get me some of this heavy water, and I can only buy it a 264 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:41,359 few vials at a time. You got to be careful of that stuff you 265 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,960 start buying. Well, number one, you can't afford to buy gallons of 266 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,759 it and not do neat gallons of it because they start looking at you phony 267 00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:53,279 because there's only i want to say, three places on the planet that they 268 00:24:53,359 --> 00:25:00,160 create heavy one. So you start buying up a bunch of that somebody in 269 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,039 black SUVs is going to want to come ask you a few questions of what 270 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,640 the hell you're doing with it. So I've also tried to create my own 271 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:14,839 heavy water and experiment with it. But yes, it does seem to that 272 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,519 takes us back to mass and photons at traveling faster than the speed of light, 273 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,880 which is, let's say you want to use the word ghost, how 274 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,720 would a ghost go from one place to another, Well, they would have 275 00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:30,519 to travels faster than the speed of light. It's just that simple. If 276 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:34,640 that they have masks, they're going to slow down, right, which where 277 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:41,319 I can end a medium. We raise our vibration to meet that higher frequency 278 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:47,640 and vibration, and then the agenda and I create all my own audio. 279 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,559 All of my experiments are created. We create the audio. The institute creates 280 00:25:53,559 --> 00:26:00,559 our audio for these experiments, whether it's the Catalyst experiment where preparing the environment 281 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,119 the audio for that, or if it's the Peregrine experience where I'm sending audio 282 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:12,960 for himI sync for the participants, or if it's if we do a full 283 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:18,000 world gate, which we haven't really talked about. That's the Omnia experiment, 284 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:26,240 and that's where I just completely bombard the environment on a sleet loop of everything 285 00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:30,119 we've just done in order to open a portal for a matter of four to 286 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,119 five minutes. Now, everybody freaks out when I say open a portal, 287 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:40,519 but sometimes it could just be as small as cracking a window. But what 288 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:45,559 we're trying to do is see where the participants went and see if they can 289 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:52,680 leave the door open behind them when they traveled so that we can visually see 290 00:26:52,680 --> 00:27:00,440 it and catch it and have that data. And it has only happened once 291 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:06,279 and it was less than twenty minutes total, and that was actually at the 292 00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:11,000 Conduring House. I was there for. Well, it's actually close to us. 293 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,359 That's like ten minutes on the endor. Well, Corey's a good buddy 294 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,559 of mine. Oh good, So we were able to get five days there. 295 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,480 We actually shot a documentary on that one. That documentary UM will be 296 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:33,599 out. I believe in October is when that documentary will come out. But 297 00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:38,720 yes, um, our goal was to open a portal at the Conjuring House 298 00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:44,240 and see what shook loose. And I'm going to tell you it shook loose. 299 00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:48,599 On the second we only ran two of those experiments. He ran five 300 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,960 experiments at week total. Only two of those. Those take a lot of 301 00:27:52,519 --> 00:28:00,279 mathematical equations to come to um, but it was very interesting on the second 302 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,880 one, for sure. What is the name of that documentary? Sorry, 303 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:11,680 christ that's okay, I don't I don't know exactly. Stacy Brown Junior is 304 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:17,079 the director producer on that one. We've kicked around several names. I don't 305 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,160 know what the final name's gonna be, but it looks like it could turn 306 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,440 out to be world Gate, but I'm not they make so I'll come up 307 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,720 with something a little more theatrical. I don't know. Okay, hopefully you 308 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,359 can hear it's okay. I know some one of our audience members commented that 309 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,519 the audio was a little messed up on my end, so that's why I 310 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,680 stopped for a second. Just let us know. We have had some trouble 311 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,000 with our board. It's been a little whack of doole lately. So I'll 312 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,319 make sure we sound good coming out there. You guys sound great. Yes, 313 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,680 And I stopped and listened to everything, so I think everything's sounded all 314 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,119 right. Now, Okay, you're good. No, um, if you 315 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,240 hear something in the stream that sounds weird and destroy it. We'll fix it. 316 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,519 Um My question was, and I'm sure a lot of people have. 317 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:07,799 Our audience are thinking the same thing. When you open this door or this 318 00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:12,480 little window, how do you close it? Have you obviously figured it out? 319 00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:18,480 So do you? What do you guess? I have these I have 320 00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:25,920 frequencies for everything. I have frequencies for the participants to guide them through whatever 321 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,599 it is we're going to manifest from beginning to end, which means the going 322 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:38,119 out and the coming back. I have frequencies to separate frequencies that are used 323 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:45,200 to um as the Catalyst experiment, which exposed the environment, the house, 324 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:51,680 the building, wherever we're at, to these certain frequencies to help aid not 325 00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:59,079 only the participants of what they're going to do, but help condition the environment 326 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:03,920 to be more receptive of what the humans are going to do. We're more 327 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:11,599 powerful than you think we are. And the intention the Omnia experience basically opens 328 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:18,039 and closes the portal. So I have frequencies for opening, frequencies for keeping 329 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:23,640 it open momentarily both through the catalysts and the participants, and then I have 330 00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:32,440 frequencies for theoretically closing it. Now here's the thing. I'm not crazy enough 331 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,240 to think that I could keep this thing open forever and that I'm going to 332 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:44,240 just start track this shit. I'm not that is gonna get here now. 333 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:48,519 I wish I could, but I'm not ridiculous. I do have a little 334 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,559 bit of common sense. It tells me that even if I've wanted to keep 335 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:57,799 it open, that thing's gonna slam shut what it wants to anyway. But 336 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:04,799 with an abundance of caution, I try to do what my math tells me 337 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:11,000 I need to do to make sure that I leave a safe environment when I 338 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,400 leave. Yeah, that's the most important thing. You know. Our intentions 339 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,480 are very powerful. It starts from the thought and then it goes to the 340 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,920 heart space. And when you combine the thought to the heart space, that's 341 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,200 how you manifest. But that's where we need to go in and we need 342 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,240 to do the psychological and the mental checks. We need to do the property 343 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,119 check. We need to make sure we're not dealing with something we don't know. 344 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,559 That's where I'm coming in also, and I'm scanning everything. We Jay 345 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:45,480 and I run numbers. It talks approximately three months to put together one one 346 00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:53,480 forty five minute test experiment. Could take us three months to put together. 347 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,359 Wow, that's impressive. Now, if you are like fix the frequency when 348 00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:05,200 you say you close the portal, that do you an effect break the loot 349 00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:13,319 in mutual right? Joey doesn't use these terms, but in my world, 350 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,400 if your your intentions are good and they're pure, and your human subjects are 351 00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:23,960 good here, good here, and there's something that they want to experience, 352 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:32,759 can you imagine that initiation of opening and using knowing what you need to use, 353 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,880 by being on that property or that location, by gathering the energy from 354 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:44,240 reading it, knowing what's there. And when Jay's saying people freak out opening 355 00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:49,079 and closing of portals, we do it every freaking day. Whether you know 356 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:52,559 it or not, we do it every day. It's either going to be 357 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:57,079 a good experience or a bad experience. And that's for us to make sure 358 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,640 we're okay, you know. And that's where we need to check in. 359 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:04,279 And that's what we do too. We need share, We check in with 360 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:12,160 everybody, and then Jay has a way for us to actually, you know, 361 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:20,119 there's a start, there's prep, there's start during right after, and 362 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,039 the wrap up, which would be what did everybody experience? And I do 363 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,039 want to say that, yeah, we will have exit interviews before any participant 364 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:36,279 moves to another area or talks to another participant. There's always exit interviews control 365 00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:44,079 and immediately after the Peregrine experience in order for them for us to collect the 366 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,079 data. But I do want to say this, the mental health of our 367 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:57,680 participants is right up there. We do psyche vowels. We don't just let 368 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:04,359 anybody go willy kneelie into one of our experiments without, you know, some 369 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,599 at least vetting them to make sure, because first and foremost is do no 370 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:15,159 harm, you know, So you want to make sure that they're up for 371 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:22,599 this task and that they fully understand what they're doing. Because some participants have 372 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:30,400 had a great experience and then the next one seems to be not so great. 373 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:37,360 But after a month or two, follower follower, this is research. 374 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,360 They're like, well, I think I understand it more now. I was 375 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,239 upset that night, but I think I understand it more now what I was 376 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:54,079 experiencing. And so all of these things they are. This is why I 377 00:34:54,119 --> 00:35:00,440 say it takes three months to put one together. This isn't just I don't 378 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:06,639 even know even all right. It's not a couple of phone calls, No 379 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,400 one sees this outside of a laboratory from the CIA or what the Germans did 380 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:16,840 or or whatever. So when I was up there, this is huge. 381 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:22,360 There's no way for me to fully let you wrap your head around it, 382 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:25,679 because it's taken me thirteen years to wrap my head around one I built. 383 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:32,159 So what we're doing is, you know, playing with these frequencies um to 384 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:40,639 get the vibration to where it needs to be with the different experiments which will 385 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:45,239 be here for years if we talk about each one and what each one is 386 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:50,920 individually, but as a breakdown with it, I think to help day, 387 00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:00,760 what we're doing is we're helping them, you know, open up in different 388 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:07,199 levels of their consciousness that may be blocked right, Yes, whether you have 389 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:15,400 abilities or not or no, everybody, whether you realize you have abilities or 390 00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:22,559 not, we can help you unlock those and hone those over tame right right, 391 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,599 And if you can, there are there are a lot of audio. 392 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,440 There's a lot of audio out there that can help people with him He's sake. 393 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:36,039 YouTube is full of it. It is, but it doesn't work for 394 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:44,800 everybody. Always doesn't work for everybody, and it's it's very generic. Yeah, 395 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:51,840 what I'm doing is it's a scalpel. I'm going in. We're going 396 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,440 in. We got five days to get this done. Everybody, over three 397 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,840 month period, we talk, we talk, we talk, we have meetings. 398 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:06,960 They know what's going on. They practice with the audio beforehand for a 399 00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:08,960 couple of months, they sleep with it, they listen to it on the 400 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,159 way to work if they want to a little bit. I recommend that normally 401 00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:20,840 you're relaxed and but there's no instructions in the audio. That's just audio to 402 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,719 help condition them to get them ready for hemisink. I need to get their 403 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:34,000 frequency as low as I possibly can, in tune with our surroundings, and 404 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:39,039 then synchronize the left side and the right side of the brain. Theta states, 405 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,199 Yeah, no, I will say this, I do. I will 406 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,239 say this. They are hooked up to egs and in my trailer or will 407 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:53,840 monitors for the egs for the participants, so their brain waves are not only 408 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,159 being monitored, they're being recorded. Yeah. Now, number one, that's 409 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,440 in turned safety, okay, But number two, what if two of your 410 00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:10,679 participants have simultaneous brainwaves at a certain point in the experiment. Are you with 411 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,159 me? Yes, you recorded this, and then you go and you do 412 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:22,679 to your exit interviews, and they give two compelling experiences where they think that 413 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,320 they both experienced the same thing, but yet you and then you combine that 414 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:34,320 with the fact that you've seen these brain waves happen between only these two participants 415 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:40,280 out of six. Now you're adding credence to what they're saying that they experienced 416 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:46,440 this and then they had matching brainwaves. Yes, well normally our brain waves 417 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:52,519 don't match. You to hook up any six people now and let them experience 418 00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,800 things, their brain waves are going to be all over the place. They're 419 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,960 not. Yeah, this is a far bigger indicator of information. Then say 420 00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:04,159 that the K two meter going off right exactly? Yeah, well I'm using 421 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,599 egs. Yeah, you could have your K two, but I'm using an 422 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,400 EEG, so yeah, we're not the same. Yeah, I'm not saying 423 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,719 we don't use K twos. But yeah, that's that's wonderful. I do 424 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:23,320 designed I do design equipment like that for I DC devices, but minor mine 425 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,679 of course had my own names on them, but they're not necessarily the K 426 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,639 twos. I gotta remember, I'm a retired master electrician, so I have 427 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:38,960 worked all over the country in everything from huge hydro dams to hospitals, to 428 00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:46,480 factories to skyscrapers. Skyscrapers, I know what energy is out there and what 429 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:52,639 kind of meters do what. So when I design my equipment, I'm not 430 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,280 looking for any of that. I design my equipment to find what is anything 431 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,440 that's not that? And unfortunately a lot of the equipment that's out there, 432 00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:07,400 it just picks up all of that other stuff that's out there amongst us every 433 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:13,119 day, even while you're laying in bed, it's right there. So I 434 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:21,280 designed my equipment a little different because I'm looking for what's not commonly found in 435 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,480 our environment. Right, It's not as simple as EMF. I mean, 436 00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:30,320 my microwave gives off anything everything. I'm pretty sure, right. Yeah, 437 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,320 you did have some questions in the audience, and I want to I don't 438 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,440 want to skip over them. Okay, pretty good. Um. Linda Jed 439 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:42,440 asked, please give a simple example of the portals that we open in daily 440 00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:46,159 life, so that we may see how we are in those situations. You're 441 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,440 raising your vibration, if you're sitting and you're meditating, you're opening a port 442 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:57,159 a lot, you're connecting. We should open and we should close when we 443 00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:01,159 need to. We should protect our energy. You're in contact with energy every 444 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,960 day, every second of the day, whether it be bad, negative, 445 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:13,039 good, whatever. That's where I say power of thought is very an intention 446 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:17,840 is very powerful because if you're going in and you're doing these things and you're 447 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,960 looking for a rise like some of these, you know people do you better 448 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,920 watch what you wish for because you just might get it. And then the 449 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,239 people that are scared of these portals, I work in one every day where 450 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,400 I sit. If I'm constantly working and sitting in the same space, I've 451 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:43,920 built an energy in that space, right, Okay, just like a residual 452 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:50,199 imprint of our energy is left everywhere we go. My smile walking down the 453 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,440 street. If somebody looks at me and they're having a bad day, you 454 00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:59,960 know, that's an initiation of contact. That's still these are just human terms. 455 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,239 It's a portal. People are scared. People are feel fearful of the 456 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,320 unknown, the enigma. Yes, you know, you have to be able 457 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,719 to be brave enough and trust what you know, what you've learned, your 458 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,079 ultimate wisdom that is God born given to you. And everybody does have that 459 00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:21,800 intuition. You're all born with it. It's just different levels. And where 460 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,679 that comes from is you know, growth and knowledge? Do you want to 461 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,719 grow it? Do you want to learn more? It's as simple as that. 462 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:35,400 It is so simple. People make it so complex that they can't they 463 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,880 can't comprehend. Let me have this, let me have this. To what 464 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:45,639 Sky just said, even though you don't realize you're doing, it's Sky's correct. 465 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:52,719 Everything she said is correct. When I do my experiments, I'm allowing 466 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,760 someone who doesn't realize that it's even possible to do it. I allow them 467 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,079 and help, but I don't allow them. I help give them guidance and 468 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:10,519 tools to where they can experience it um and know that they did it. 469 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:16,719 But yeah, it's facilitated training. So Prana, you want to learn how 470 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,079 to breathe, you want to learn how to sit? The heavy sink will 471 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:25,559 help. But with Jay's frequencies, and what we're trying to figure out is 472 00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:32,079 what what which one works for what and how can we get there quicker? 473 00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:38,599 And what what can we provoke as an experience for a good outcome? And 474 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:45,960 that's what the client to right, Yeah, that's the ultimate goal because what 475 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:52,159 we're searching is answers the property, the history, ourselves. Why are we 476 00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:57,519 all doing it? Why are we your example, whenever we were doing and 477 00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:02,599 I'm Michael stuff. I don't say too much about this documentary that's coming up, 478 00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:07,199 and I don't want to give away any privacy of a certain individual that 479 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:14,119 was involved in it. But we came up for answers, with answers for 480 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:22,760 him within the first month of designing the experiment, before we actually got there. 481 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,280 We didn't even go to the conjuring house for a two months more. 482 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:34,960 But simple math math. Everything revolves around math. Everything in this universe revolves 483 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:43,119 around binary and photons, and everything carries information. Everything is numbers. He 484 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:49,360 actually had some answers Beef and I'm not a psychic, I'm not Sky. 485 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:53,599 This had Sky wasn't even working on this part of it. This was something 486 00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:59,199 that I did without even knowing. I did it simply with the math of 487 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:06,480 figuring out the experiment and gave him answers about his father that because I also 488 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:10,400 used jematria. And I'm not sure if you know what jamatri is, but 489 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:17,639 we were dealing in jematria, neuroscience, quantum mechanics, quantum physics, metaphysical 490 00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:24,480 I'm dealing in all of this putting it all together into together with supernatural mechanisms 491 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:30,199 to get answers. And he had an answer in the first month about something 492 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:37,199 that he never actually asked the question of. And I gave him this information 493 00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:45,280 and he was visibly shaken, and I didn't understand what was going on. 494 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:52,280 So this happens with or without We're just taking it to a whole other level. 495 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:58,599 But what I'm saying is that these answers can be gotten if we really 496 00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,559 want to search for them. Yeah, and I'm gonna saying we've got to 497 00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:07,239 do it with or without k two meters or with or without a camera with 498 00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:13,320 a night scope, but we can look for these answers. They are there. 499 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,599 So through the intense of creating the experiment, you're able to find out 500 00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:21,159 the answers. Is that kind of what where in this case? I was 501 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,079 In this case, I found answers to something that he was two questions that 502 00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:30,920 he had never actually asked me, and they were things I didn't understand, 503 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,239 and I was running them by him in a three way phone conversation and I'm 504 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,119 like, I don't understand this, this does not making sense. I'm trying 505 00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:45,599 to make this all fit and I'm telling him this, and he become visibly 506 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,880 upset and it had to something that he had to do with his father. 507 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,280 So he had tuned into his frequency. If you will somehow or enough, 508 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:59,440 well the methods using me the method and this is what I'm saying. We 509 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:05,559 are all capable of this, we just don't know it. We agree with 510 00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:07,480 you, We totally agree. A couple other questions, and these are both 511 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,719 related. Linda had asked, you vet your participants, and Amory Young asked, 512 00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:16,840 where and how do you get people to do these experiments? Okay, 513 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:23,320 we do vet our participants. Now how we get the people to do the 514 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:29,079 experiment? Is that, Amory? Yes? Ye. First of all, 515 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:32,360 Amrie, we gotta find someplace that's got enough guts to let us come out 516 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,559 and do it. Now, once we find a place that's got enough guts 517 00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:42,880 to let us in the front door, then whoever's involved, he goes through 518 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:49,000 my math and then that determines, believe it or not, who the participants, 519 00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:53,719 the potential participants are going to be, and where it would be the 520 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,360 sound guy. We're going to do a documentary, and I'll run everybody's numbers 521 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,199 and I'll run through mathematical formulas and the sound guys like I don't want to 522 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,440 be involved. I'm like, well, math says differently. It says you 523 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:14,719 should be setting in seat five on the second floor at six forty five tonight. 524 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,920 Are you up for it or not? And he's like, well, 525 00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:22,480 like, I guess so, And then he gets whatever experience he was supposed 526 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:28,639 to get, he gets it. The universe tells us, Yeah, I 527 00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:37,519 can't stress this enough about the math. Math doesn't love it's hulogy. Yes, 528 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:46,360 So Jay works with the numbers with yeah, and like rology astrology, 529 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,760 astrology, thing goes by the siderel clock. I do not go by the 530 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,599 human clock'. I use jamatria. I use quantum mechanics, quantum physics. 531 00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:01,400 We're not going to tell you, guys, there's secrets. I'm not going 532 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,320 to tell you how I do it. Yeah, we can't tell you. 533 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,079 You don't know when when you're going to use what park? But the universe 534 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:15,360 shows you m Yeah. But even if I told you those secrets, should 535 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:21,840 first have to build a system that only exists, and they can't be done 536 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,000 anyway. It can't be replicated. So that's where Jay's the genius in the 537 00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:35,440 mixt of it and he gets mad book like Jimmy neutron, but I get 538 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:43,079 him of uma further on the first placement in the numbering and um, you 539 00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:47,960 know, like what he was saying, where we end up the experiment could 540 00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:53,280 change. It could change at any point if something seems off or we lose 541 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:58,960 somebody. But as far as her talking about how we got these participants, 542 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,159 most most of them are already where we are. They may not be on 543 00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:07,400 you know, the same levels, but it doesn't matter because we can bring 544 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,840 everybody as a whole together. And that's another thing that I think that we're 545 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,039 going to end up probably trying to um, you know, locked down and 546 00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:22,159 get the data and show the proof of it with the ex And I can 547 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:28,320 only do a few of these experiments a year because they do now we're if 548 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,559 we're talking about a world game the experiment, those could take months to put 549 00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:39,079 together. But even some of my smaller experiments take time to put together than 550 00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:46,559 I need time on site to Actually my equipment is getting quicker to set up. 551 00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:53,400 But when you're talking about wiring, if I show up for let's say 552 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,960 a recent experiment, just give an example, seventy thousand square feet six thousand 553 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:05,440 feet of wire six computers, EEG monitors. Everything that's a good day, 554 00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:09,239 day and a half just to get ready to do that experiment. And the 555 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,960 experiment may only last thirty to forty five minutes. Jay, do you want 556 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,079 to tell them? I don't think we did. Like he's involved in the 557 00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:24,719 institute, and well, what's been dying? I mean as much as we 558 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:30,639 can say. Okay, Well it's me. I'm the founder of IDC Institute. 559 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:37,400 It's falls under IDC Group IDC Devices, which I originally started. Sky 560 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:45,159 is my medium, my guru. She helps me with all things metaphysical that 561 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:52,360 I don't quite wrap my little brain around. Then I have Justine Spurger. 562 00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:59,840 He's the former tech manager for Ghost Adventures. He helps me with Oh man, 563 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:05,880 he helps me with so many different things. Um, so I've got. 564 00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:09,960 And then his son, um, Austin Spurrier, marks with us too. 565 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,360 He's, uh we what you might call an intern. He's free labor 566 00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:20,039 um, but he's learning and he's he's a good worker. Um. And 567 00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:23,679 then my it guy UM that I go to for all things that I don't 568 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:31,159 understand is Jerry Pachico. He uh is the former I'm not sure what his 569 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:38,679 title was, but he ran the Lizzie Borden House before it's sold, Lizzie 570 00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:47,480 Borden and Maplecroft Um. So Jerry is my IT guru, Jerry pachico Um. 571 00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:54,480 And then my really good friend and partner and m guy I can't do 572 00:52:54,599 --> 00:53:01,960 nothing without is Corey hinzen Um, former owner of the Coundring Houses. He 573 00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:07,000 supports me, he believes in what I do. And we've worked. We've 574 00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:13,039 known well, we were both marines. We've known each other for freaking ever, 575 00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:17,000 me and him and me, him and Justice Spur year ago. We 576 00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:22,079 go back more than ten years. Well, I mean we've just we've just 577 00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:28,800 always been buddies. So that's basically the crew that I've got for getting these 578 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:34,960 experiments set up run. Now the participants the participants changed from time to time 579 00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:39,920 depending on who's having us out and what the end goal is. Now, 580 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:45,519 not all the experiments are done with participants. I do want to add that 581 00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:50,880 if you want to do you say you want to do a dB session, 582 00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:54,239 and I'm like, okay, how big you're building? Seventy thousand square feet? 583 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,159 All right, so how about I come out and I make you a 584 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:05,119 seventy thousand square foot live EVP recorder. Now we set back. We wired 585 00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:09,880 this seventy thousand square foot building. We do live EVPs over the entire property. 586 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:16,079 Live. They're being recorded, they're being monitored by monitored. We're actually 587 00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:24,360 watching the frequencies of up to eighteen different satellites in that building. And if 588 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:30,000 one of those spikes, then you know you got something right there and you 589 00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:32,880 hear it in real time. You recorded the audio, but you also have 590 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:40,400 a visual of either a disembodied voice or a direct applied voice. I call 591 00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:45,440 them direct applied, so people say EVPs, but direct applied is a little 592 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:53,599 better in this situation. I have my own system for labeling these voices that 593 00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:58,599 we get. Here's the thing though, with my system, I can tell 594 00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:04,320 you it was an EVP or if it was a disembodied voice ambient voice. 595 00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,280 But I can also tell you if anybody was in there, because I have 596 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:14,559 more than twenty four cameras monitoring everything inside and outside that building. And if 597 00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:17,840 you want to run one overnight, we can run an experiment overnight while everybody 598 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:23,079 sleeps, and we will have eighteen locations of satellites, twenty four cameras, 599 00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:29,800 and anything that comes through the computers recording it. And you can go right 600 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:35,159 to it and look at the frequencies, you can look at everything. That's 601 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:42,440 the system that I've built. It is called the IBC intercom system. That's 602 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,480 excellent. Let's talk a little bit about what you think an EVP actually is, 603 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,920 if you don't mind you used a couple of different terms for them and 604 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,920 break them up different ways. I've found, we've found and some of our 605 00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:01,000 recordings that environments sometimes can contribute to the spiritual message. And it's not as 606 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,639 easy as okay, it's a whisper voice. But I think it's pretty interesting 607 00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:08,400 that a lot of times it is a whisper voice, almost like they're using 608 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:14,079 your breath or things in the environment to create that audio that we're hearing through 609 00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:23,239 maybe their intention. Well, EVP EVP is the unbroke, that's the talk. 610 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:30,119 Okay, everything falls underneath that. Everything is an EVP. If you 611 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,559 discovered it, you can't figure out exactly what caused it. It was an 612 00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:43,920 EVP. A ghostbox voice that answered your question. Is technically EVP. EVP 613 00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:51,199 is electronic voice phenomenon. So it's if it is a phenomenon and it was 614 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:58,320 electronic and it's a voice, it was an EVP. Now that's where we 615 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:06,079 start. Now start classifying what we're getting. If let me give an example 616 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,960 one of my direct links. I believe it was Billy on Ghost of Ventures. 617 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:19,440 He had it in a Tubercuos's hospital. There was two voices coming through. 618 00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:23,400 Nobody really caught it, even the sound guys didn't at first catch it. 619 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:29,039 There was a woman's voice in a man's voice. The woman's voice had 620 00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:34,880 an echo and a had echo in the voice, which my device did have 621 00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:42,280 an echo reverb board. But the man's voice had no echo, so too. 622 00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:49,159 In that situation, I would say both are electronic voice phenomenon. The 623 00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:54,199 woman's voice, I would say, is audio sniffers. Maybe audio stiffers like 624 00:57:55,519 --> 00:58:01,079 a residual reverb, like if everybody talks about audio snippets and ghost boxes. 625 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,559 That's usually how you can tell, Like with Jay saying, the clearer that 626 00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:12,119 you're hearing it and the more energy that is being produced for whatever is manifesting 627 00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:16,239 and that energy or that field that you're experiencing, you're gonna know the difference 628 00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:21,760 if you can read and feel that. But he's got the data, yeah, 629 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:29,079 because what happening is if this particular instance, her voice was coming through 630 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,239 in bits of pieces, so they would say that that was audio sniffets. 631 00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:42,440 Um. Now, most radios scan two hundred if you got one from Europe, 632 00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:47,119 it might scan two hundred and forty. Mine my tuners are built by 633 00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:52,840 me. They scan more than ten thousand frequencies, so it tells me the 634 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,480 frequencies. The odds of getting radio sniffets are pretty narrow. Yeah. But 635 00:58:58,639 --> 00:59:04,039 here's the thing. The man's voice had no echo and reverb. So we 636 00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:07,320 know her voice came because I designed it. I built the circuit. The 637 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:13,719 tuner is before the echo board and before the speaker. Her voice came out 638 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,400 with an echo. Simple math says, well, it went from the tuner 639 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:22,039 through the echo board, picked up echo, come out the speaker. His 640 00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:27,039 voice had no echo, so it didn't come in the tuner, that didn't 641 00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:30,760 come in the amplifier. It had to come on the backside of the echo 642 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:37,000 board or out of the speaker. To me, that's a DAV a direct 643 00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:45,679 applied voice. Somebody somehow directly applied their voice to the speaker or the wires. 644 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,400 But just as an example, yeah, right right, So you're able 645 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,360 to distinguish between the two. Something that was residual and something that was active. 646 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,639 And that's a whole area that I don't think it's talked about a lot. 647 01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,800 Well, no, because that's why I designed my equipment the way I 648 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:10,079 do, so that the the end user can actually determine that for themselves. 649 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:15,800 By the way I designed my equipment, you shouldn't have to guess if it 650 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:22,079 was a radio snippet or a DAV or whatever else. You should be able 651 01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:29,280 to determine it by the equipment that I sold you. So I'm not just 652 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,360 building a piece of equipment so you could communicate. I'm building you a piece 653 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:39,960 of equipment so not only can you communicate, you could determine how you're communicating 654 01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:47,000 and get a better idea so that in the future you can hone your skills 655 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:58,320 to match whatever you're communicating with and narrow that down. I love this measurement, 656 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:04,079 and this is the measurements of it and how you you do this. 657 01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:07,000 I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. Now you're good. Oh 658 01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:15,519 my gosh, videos with me using the devices. Yes, I should have 659 01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:17,400 sent the videos before the show, and I didn't even think about it. 660 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,840 You um, either one of you have UM somewhere like either on your pages 661 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:29,079 or wherever to see um interactions with with that, like the videos up there? 662 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:38,360 Yeah, Facebook is okay, videos okay, Yeah, my experiments are 663 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,800 out there. I have some more than two hour videos if you're if you 664 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:49,880 really want to watch, it's there. Yeah, they're there. Um, 665 01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:57,320 I don't know if I can pull it up quick enough. I see Ken 666 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:07,000 Allen out there? What's up, buddy, Hey babies, hey baby hips 667 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:12,159 out there? Any of folks in the audience that are trying to hawk readings 668 01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:16,239 in our chats? Yeah, you will get I'm sorry I've been doing. 669 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:30,440 I can't do that. Make your own show. Yeah, um yeah there. 670 01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:36,599 What do you have? Jay? Your YouTube is if you want or 671 01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:40,760 I can look for it IVC devices all you gotta do. Any words, 672 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,559 you see my stuff, you're gonna find a black cat logo. It's a 673 01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:52,280 skull with a black cat. So anything that's officially me will be that right 674 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:59,000 there. Let me look whether it's my YouTube, whether it's my Facebook. 675 01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:04,519 You're want to see that black hat logo and that's my official logo. Give 676 01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,239 me one second. I'm gonna check. I'm sending to the videos that have 677 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:15,719 okay, evidence of his equipment that I've used okay, and I have a 678 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:22,760 lot of I have built hundreds. I don't know if the thousand, but 679 01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:30,159 hundreds, possibly a thousand devices that have been used on TV shows. Just 680 01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:37,840 about every major TV shows used my equipment, but also investigators from around the 681 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:45,320 world, New Zealand, Australia, um my. One of my direct links 682 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:53,159 was in Malaysia um and was speaking an ancient dialect um during an interview on 683 01:03:53,320 --> 01:04:00,400 GMA TV, feeling my equipment choosed all over the world. Well, there's 684 01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:05,679 videos everywhere of my equipment and it's got a great publicist. Let's put it 685 01:04:05,719 --> 01:04:12,199 that way. People find me and that's just how it happens. I don't 686 01:04:12,239 --> 01:04:15,920 go looking for them, they just find me. That's very cool. I 687 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,679 just shared out the link to your YouTube page so people can check that out. 688 01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:24,920 And I've got some of that up on the screen. Just now appreciate 689 01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:30,920 the view. But yeah, please like and subscribe shootooth dot com, um 690 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:39,639 at JW trail and yeah, you do have some some great stuff. It's 691 01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:42,800 like up there. So I don't know if the audio will come through, 692 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,400 but I'll do my best. Chris, I'm sharing, um I guess to 693 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,519 your messenger, Okay, Okay, thank you. This is just one little 694 01:04:53,360 --> 01:05:00,840 nip it. This video an anniversary that I missed. Well, that's video 695 01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:09,400 to building IDC devices. I did a video called IDC devices. It was 696 01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:13,800 basically video that. Yeah, I don't think I'll get an audience to that, 697 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,599 so I'll try to get the mess. He is one of my old 698 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:23,760 waters. Yeah, and just update everyone on you can hear it what the 699 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,480 current mission was that I felt IDC devices should be. I don't think I 700 01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:31,440 got that yet. Sky. I'm trying to get it to send it, 701 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:36,119 won't you? Oh okay, I'm no worries that video. Worried before. 702 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:41,559 We'll tease people and have them go and look on their own. Yeah they 703 01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:45,199 can. They can find it on my platforms, but not now. You 704 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,239 gotta wait till after the show. After the show, perfectly fine, no 705 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,760 problem, no problem at all. I love this. So you really are 706 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,039 marrying the technical with the metaphysical. Yes, and lots of ways. What 707 01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:02,079 are some of the other things that you that you measure four without giving away 708 01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:11,400 all giving away the ghost? So? Well, I do I have sound 709 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:16,760 meters. Not only are my computers monitoring and recording all the frequencies that come 710 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:26,119 back, say in different experiments for that data. There's also um like like 711 01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:31,920 let's say that we did an overnight EVP. Right below the satellite would be 712 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,119 a sound meter, and then there's a camera recording all of that. That 713 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:43,199 sound meter is gonna tell us really quickly if that was an ambient voice or 714 01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:47,960 if it was a electronic voice. All right, and then we go to 715 01:06:48,039 --> 01:06:54,440 our cameras and really quickly we can see that there was nobody on the floor 716 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,519 below or below, or above, or left or right. So if it 717 01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,039 wasn't ambient voice, we can now say, okay, well that must have 718 01:07:02,119 --> 01:07:09,559 been a disembodied voice. There was nobody within seventy feet of that room, 719 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,679 but yet we recorded a voice. The sound meter went off, the cameras 720 01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:19,119 are showing nobody was there. We've now determined that that was an ambient voice 721 01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:32,360 for sure. So I'm also monitoring temperatures, humidity, barometric pressure my EEDS 722 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:40,280 system, which is not quite completed now. My EEDS system will be tied 723 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,920 in with the satellites to where all of that will be sent back to a 724 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,400 central computer. So at any given point, if we had a phenomenon happened 725 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:56,440 immediately, it's going to record what the temperature was before, during, and 726 01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:01,360 after, what the humidity was before, during or after? Um, you 727 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:06,119 know everything, everything's going to be monitored. But that system, I'm still 728 01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:11,960 in the process of trying to finish that system. I have a smaller system, 729 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,319 but I can't quite do eighty acres with that one yet. I think 730 01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:21,720 you also do measurements of things Beyonce the human audio spectrum, yes, and 731 01:08:23,079 --> 01:08:27,760 things like I know people have experimented with this with like that recorders, like 732 01:08:28,079 --> 01:08:30,960 you know, they're near use of echolocation, going into different frequencies that we 733 01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:36,640 normally can't hear and then transpose them down into our hearing range. Yeah, 734 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:43,640 I'm and I'm working on My system is still I gotta I need to live 735 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:48,760 another sixty years to finish my systems. And I'm not shiitting you. We 736 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:55,319 need somebody to take My books are so full, I don't know if I'll 737 01:08:55,399 --> 01:09:00,199 ever complete it in my lifetime. Somebody's going to get a hell of a 738 01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:05,039 workload when I'm gone in order to try to finish all this shit. And 739 01:09:05,079 --> 01:09:13,840 I'm hoping they're up to the task, because I don't know it can be 740 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,760 done. That's the thing, guys. We can get. We can't get 741 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,840 all the answers. I don't think we're supposed to. I don't think we're 742 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:26,680 supposed to get every one of them, but we can correlate. At one 743 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,479 time, we didn't know the Higgs boson was real. We know what caused 744 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:36,439 photons to slow down and speed up. At one time, antime matter was 745 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:42,439 theoretical. Now you know that ninety percent of the universe is anti matter. 746 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,720 All of these things at one time were unknown. Right, I'm trying to 747 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:55,520 make the next known. I'm just not necessarily looking for Star Trek. I'm 748 01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:02,399 doing it for the paranormal, which is where my my passions lie. But 749 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:09,920 I'm doing it in a scientific well, I guess I'm not going I don't 750 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:15,439 want to piss off any scientists pseudo scientific manner, because it's hard to try 751 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:21,600 to judge the paranormal with strictly non science. You're gonna have to look at 752 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,840 the Mesopotamians, the Babylonians, You're gonna have to look at the Egyptians, 753 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,000 the Aztecs, and I hate to say, you're gonna have to look at 754 01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:34,680 what the Germans were doing. You're gonna have to look at these civilizations that 755 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:41,720 came before us and what they were talking about. What they were talking about. 756 01:10:43,079 --> 01:10:46,159 You don't make sense in the hieroglyphics, but you can make sense of 757 01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:50,399 it now, yeah, right, right, right, We agree with you. 758 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:56,600 I think we think human consciousness like our nosis. Our knowledge base grows 759 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:01,159 so slowly, we slowly adapted any kind of change. If we talk about 760 01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:06,880 something like, um, I don't know the idea that a molecule perceived right 761 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:11,600 with a human eye may act differently than if you if not, I think 762 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,880 a lot of people have a hard time just wrapping the head around that. 763 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,439 Yet we can give it. Everybody has a problem with Schroeder's cat. Yeah, 764 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:24,039 yeah, everybody has a problem with that. And I gotta tell you 765 01:11:24,079 --> 01:11:28,640 I got a problem with it too, because I have noticed with my experiments 766 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,399 that if I add a seventh observer, thanks seem to go shit that crazy 767 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:38,159 really quick. And I don't know why, because we just said the experiment 768 01:11:38,239 --> 01:11:43,279 twice and everything was fine. I added an observer and things start changing. 769 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:49,479 Because my intercom system sends audio out to the entire environment, and it also 770 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,319 sends it, brings it, dicks it up, and brings it back to 771 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:58,520 my computer. Right, so I have a countdown. When this countdown starts. 772 01:11:59,079 --> 01:12:02,960 It's it's it's not my voice, it's a digital voice that tells you 773 01:12:03,399 --> 01:12:06,840 you got ten minutes, get your shit together, get out. You got 774 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,880 nine minutes, get your shit together and get out. And now I'm just 775 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:15,520 being facetious, but this countdown starts. At the end of that countdown, 776 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,920 If you're not part of the experiment, you're out of the building. And 777 01:12:19,079 --> 01:12:25,880 what I've discovered is if I happen to leave even one person in that building, 778 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:31,039 the experiment changes because that one person who was part of the experiment becomes 779 01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:36,680 an observer, and things go a little bit awry, even though they're not 780 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:43,560 doing anything other than observing. They're in that environment, but they're not actually 781 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,039 part of the experiment. Things get a little squirling. I wonder if that's 782 01:12:47,039 --> 01:12:51,079 related to intention, you know, just the visible observation of something you're intends. 783 01:12:51,359 --> 01:12:56,800 That's the double slit experiment. It's like the double slit experience. When 784 01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,319 you're looking at it, it's one thing, and when you're not looking at 785 01:13:00,359 --> 01:13:04,359 the photons travel. The photons of light travel differently. We're just shooting lasers 786 01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:09,399 through there. It's the same thing with my experiments. Now I can't fully 787 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:17,119 explain it. But Einstein. Einstein had talked about He said, there's a 788 01:13:17,159 --> 01:13:23,279 man on a train and the train's traveling X doesn't matter, it's traveling. 789 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,760 He drops the stone out the window to the man on the train. He 790 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:32,199 sees the stone go drop down. But let's say there's a man standing on 791 01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:38,479 the platform watching the train go by, and he sees that man drop the 792 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,159 stone. Well, when that man drops the stone, guess what the guy 793 01:13:42,199 --> 01:13:49,720 on the platform sees. He sees a parabolic arch. That stone goes down 794 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:57,720 and out right. So but both of them are correct. Both observers are 795 01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:02,199 right. But once sees a parabolic arch and the other one sees the stone 796 01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:09,920 goes straight down. They're both correct. Right. That's the theory of relativity. 797 01:14:12,079 --> 01:14:17,079 Everything is relative to whatever your ass is experiencing right this moment. I 798 01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:28,039 love. It is that simple. And I just kicked up the night clip 799 01:14:28,319 --> 01:14:31,800 I sent the other one. Um, I think I just posted on my 800 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:38,319 Facebook page. But it's all Jay's equipment, and it's knowing how different it 801 01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:43,319 works, and it works really good with me. Thank you, yes for 802 01:14:43,359 --> 01:14:46,560 everybody, and h I will download it and put it on the screen. 803 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:55,000 I'm gonna send it to your we got this. We got turned stop spamming 804 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,079 our comments. No spammers, gelling us because you know, we really love 805 01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:00,520 this. I know it's a lot of comments out there and I'm not getting 806 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:08,079 to and yeah, thinking about people out tonight. We want to get to 807 01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:11,880 the meat of all this because it's super inc Let's make it the good. 808 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,319 Yeah, we put up a wall here, yes, block them with our 809 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,279 our light energy. One question we kind of related to something somebody else they 810 01:15:21,359 --> 01:15:25,960 commented on before, and they mentioned low energy, and this is something that 811 01:15:26,039 --> 01:15:30,960 gets talked about a lot of times on low frequency vibrations versus high frequency vibrations. 812 01:15:30,319 --> 01:15:34,640 Are you finding with the vibrations that are actually tuning into a higher than 813 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:42,640 a person's average running frequency depending on what the well harves is different than much 814 01:15:43,159 --> 01:15:46,880 depending on what's going to happen or what's going on and what experiments down. 815 01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:54,239 I mean when people will often generalize, Okay, this lower level frequency vibration, 816 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,920 vibration is from this you know, I'm going to use the word that, 817 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,479 the word demon thing, and you know this higher one is angelic and 818 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,159 this and that, and I feel like those terms are so generalized, like 819 01:16:04,359 --> 01:16:13,520 what are you seeing that kind of data in your in your experiments. Well, 820 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,399 if my experiments for most of what experiments I'm running at the moment, 821 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:23,039 And gotta remember I can only run so many of those, I can only 822 01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:26,680 design so many at the time. I can also only get so many people 823 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,800 that are brave enough to let me come do it in their buildings. Most 824 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:35,399 of what I'm doing right now is dealt on a lower frequency because that's what's 825 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:43,640 needed for the experiments that we're running. Okay, yes, a frequency. 826 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:54,560 Definitely a higher frequency would be used for different other experiments. Okay, Scott, 827 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,279 you can go ahead and weigh in on those we're pulling up them. 828 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,680 Actually, there's no attachment that you did not go I did get your email, 829 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,199 but I didn't get the attachment. No one. If you can get 830 01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:09,680 to it otherwise, don't worry. We can keep talking. I love. 831 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,079 It's hard to do all of this in an hour, it really is. 832 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:17,279 I didn't. I don't expect everybody to agree with me or even fully clasped 833 01:17:18,119 --> 01:17:23,279 what I'm talking about, because I'm still wrapping my head around all the day 834 01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:29,159 trying not to talk above anybody. You're not You're doing good, you're fine, 835 01:17:29,399 --> 01:17:32,920 and we are on your time. When when you guys good you tell 836 01:17:33,039 --> 01:17:39,319 us, just trying to explain it so you can't understand it and leading us 837 01:17:39,399 --> 01:17:45,560 because sometimes the days I say or makes people's eyes roll back in the I'm 838 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:54,079 just a blast at parties, crust you and me both, brother, don't 839 01:17:54,119 --> 01:18:00,800 get me talking down at the bar. It just it just it's gonna go 840 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,079 off, It's gonna go off the handle. Then yeah, you should go 841 01:18:04,199 --> 01:18:09,399 off the rails. Soon as I say photons, that's usually when I lose 842 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:14,479 most people right there. Yeah, you know people can't have at all. 843 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,840 You know, it's not as simple as hey, it's just coming through my 844 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,479 radio, It's not. There's other stuff and the brain wants to know why 845 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,840 this happens and how is this communication actually happening? Right? Let me know 846 01:18:25,039 --> 01:18:30,760 it came through Chris right. There's others that do as well. Yes, 847 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:38,680 most definitely. So when you're when you're um, when you're in your meditative 848 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:46,199 states, your different levels of consciousness, those vibrations of lower are necessary for 849 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:55,079 I feel like more preparing. And then if need be, we need to 850 01:18:55,159 --> 01:19:00,520 find a basic range um. Again depends ending on what we're doing and why 851 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:04,479 we're doing it. But if we need to go higher. That's where they're 852 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:11,239 transcending right into a higher level of consciousness, which everybody does. We all 853 01:19:11,359 --> 01:19:15,359 do it. We all get downloaded before we wake up, before we go 854 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,720 to bed, you know, we get in these these uh uh states of 855 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:30,520 consciousness. But I think with what we're trying to accomplish with the data, 856 01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:35,520 the frequencies, the data of the data of the gamut, like all of 857 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:43,520 this is where we need to tie these things together to where we can say 858 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:48,000 this is why we're seeing this. And you know, I don't want to 859 01:19:48,039 --> 01:19:53,319 give away too many of the secrets yet. Yeah, there's there's somebody's gonna 860 01:19:53,359 --> 01:19:57,239 have to wait till I'm dead to get the secrets. But she's when I 861 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,920 do. When I when leading up to say, the World game, and 862 01:20:01,079 --> 01:20:08,399 we're leading up to we have the Peregrine experience, which is the participants. 863 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:14,079 We have the Canist experiment, which is conditioning the environment. When we hit 864 01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:20,840 them, those frequencies, they raise, they raise high, and not only 865 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:27,760 that, but the dB level raises very high. And then it's basically, 866 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,680 okay, let me use a layman's term, I'm trying to kick that door 867 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:40,239 open with high frequencies, high dbs and then that door opens. It's open 868 01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:44,520 for four to six minutes, and then it closes, and then I start 869 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,920 lowering those frequencies back down again, and I bring it back down to more 870 01:20:49,079 --> 01:20:57,680 levels and over probably the next nine to eleven minutes, as the participants are 871 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:03,840 coming out of their experience, also lowering the environment itself to close that gate. 872 01:21:04,319 --> 01:21:09,399 While I'm using the participants, they're still under audio, they're still in 873 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:15,880 their experience, and they're manifesting the closing of that gate while I'm backing those 874 01:21:15,079 --> 01:21:20,000 frequencies back down. But yeah, whenever I go to kick open that gate, 875 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:26,479 it's loud as hell in that building, and there's some frequencies you've probably 876 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:32,439 never heard with your ears before as I kick open that door. So yes, 877 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:38,479 those frequencies, they do, they do change over the course of stay 878 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:44,840 a World Gate experiment. Okay, okay, and I just requested access. 879 01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:55,279 Say, okay, one second, I've got I'm just scattered because we're on 880 01:21:55,399 --> 01:21:59,920 here, that's all I'm trying to listen and fine time we are laid back. 881 01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:04,720 Yeah, they've got this break in his love and that comes from our 882 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,680 Francisco show. Yeah, that was funny. I'm hungry. I want some 883 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:15,000 bacon. All right, it does sound good, right now, okay, 884 01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:18,720 there's two. You got those now, I got them, and you're requested, 885 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:24,479 so send you should be it's sending, so you should have have it. 886 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:30,199 They're just short clips. Nothing was really edited. It was just um, 887 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:36,680 you know, saying on the screen exactly what you hear. You can 888 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,319 hear it, all right, Yeah, I do have them now, so 889 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,279 let me download those, I know, pop them up. Great empty four 890 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,880 and Jay Jay's Equipment's what caught me. This was at Randolph County Asylum when 891 01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:54,680 I was the only one and how big was the building? That one was 892 01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:00,920 fifty six thousand square feet. I'm the only one in the baseman the meat 893 01:23:01,079 --> 01:23:04,399 room, and I got a ghost talk. We're not gonna say a ghost 894 01:23:04,399 --> 01:23:10,000 because Jay hats that a spirit speaking with me audibly. I'm like, what 895 01:23:10,239 --> 01:23:15,960 the fuck? And I'm cussing because everything breaks down behind me with his intercom 896 01:23:15,159 --> 01:23:19,680 system that we're dialed in getting ready to an experiment. And if you listen, 897 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:27,439 you hear somebody reply to me what And that's that's not no EVP. 898 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:35,640 That was that was right there real time. They're coming down now, So 899 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:45,199 just one moment, but I think justin sent me that Jay Sorrier. Yeah, 900 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,840 yeah, he sent me in because then I had to send it to 901 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,640 you because you didn't know about it. No, I wants it down there 902 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:58,239 at that time. I spend most of our time in my command center monitoring 903 01:23:58,359 --> 01:24:02,560 the experiment from from that central point. From there, I can monitor fifty 904 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,640 six thousands for a feet. But it doesn't mean I catch it all. 905 01:24:06,119 --> 01:24:10,720 But my computers are catching it. I just might not catch at all. 906 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,479 Yeah, you may have to replay it because you'll listen and I'll say what 907 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:21,079 I say. Cuss, that's okay, And there's no there's no um communication 908 01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:27,199 going on between anybody. There's nothing going on. It's just me literally just 909 01:24:27,279 --> 01:24:33,239 sitting still in front of the camera and it breaks me out because it was 910 01:24:33,359 --> 01:24:38,520 loud and I didn't expect it, and I'm like reaching for like a camera 911 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,199 or something or my phone for the light because I'm like, shit, I'm 912 01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:45,680 gonna break Jay's equipment. He's gonna mess me up if I screw the stuff 913 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,479 up. But it happened at Bobby Mackie's too. I have that that is 914 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:58,920 on my well, the DRV the DRV word, and that was an accident. 915 01:24:59,319 --> 01:25:01,680 You could tell about that in a minute, because nobody was supposed to 916 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:06,520 have the DRV that wasn't supposed to leave my workshop. Not even sure how 917 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:14,079 it got in my case, because that's an experimental device I had and ended 918 01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:16,439 up with it. Well, I got thrown, he got thrown out of 919 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:21,560 my hand, and there was a lot of cursing on it. Oh my, 920 01:25:23,159 --> 01:25:27,199 that sounds very interesting, Yeah, but there's not supposed to be anything 921 01:25:27,279 --> 01:25:33,680 coming out of it. DRV is actually a DRV uh it's it scans no 922 01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:40,880 FM frequencies, AM frequencies at all there And I had had it. I 923 01:25:41,119 --> 01:25:45,800 built it um In three months of me running it, I don't know how 924 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,079 many batteries I'd ran down in this thing. It had never said a word. 925 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,640 And I'm like, well, my DRV is doing what I said it 926 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:59,279 would do. It's it doesn't pick up any frequencies or any audio from the 927 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:05,479 radio band human radio band, but it's not saying anything. They somehow accidentally 928 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:10,079 got ahold of it. I came back, I went to Florida for her. 929 01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,439 They went to Bobby Mathews and they called me up and they said, 930 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,920 hey, this thing's talking. I'm like bull that they don't talk I built 931 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:25,319 it for me. It don't talk, and they sent me videos of like, 932 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,279 holy craft, that thing hasn't said them a word in three months. 933 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:34,199 It's really good. But it was working at Bobby Mackews. They have the 934 01:26:34,359 --> 01:26:41,640 full recorded um it was filmed, and then I have the actual live video 935 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:48,439 of everything that happened at Bobby Mackie's and it was awesome. And he's like, 936 01:26:50,239 --> 01:26:55,920 okay, gravity goes down, not this way, and behind you it 937 01:26:56,039 --> 01:27:00,720 went. It got ripped out of my hand and drawn behind me. Geez 938 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:06,560 wow, I'd love to see that sky ray page. And you see Bobby 939 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:13,439 Mackie's and you see live video, you'll want to watch that because it shows 940 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,039 it. And then the damn thing's cussing at Matthew. What is this video 941 01:27:17,159 --> 01:27:21,079 of the with the green light? Don't you sent me that one? Is 942 01:27:21,279 --> 01:27:28,760 in the meat locker in the basement of Randolph County Asylum in Indiana. Winchester, 943 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:35,000 Indiana. Yeah, that was here's documentary we did. Okay, I'm 944 01:27:35,039 --> 01:27:41,760 gonna play that now, anything about it, Okay, don't oh shit, 945 01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:48,520 this fucking thing just like fell apart behind me, do it? Okay. 946 01:27:49,359 --> 01:27:56,640 I'm just talking like I normally talked. To humans, they're people. Let 947 01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,039 me bring that up one more time so we can see what's going on. 948 01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:03,039 What do we look for in that? You're gonna hear what after I say 949 01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:08,800 what the fuck? And they're like what? And I'm like and then I 950 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:13,479 keep talking and you're alone and I'm alone. There's nobody in that building, 951 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,479 nobody. All right, let me play that again so we know what to 952 01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:24,640 listen for. Oh shit, this fucking thing just like fell apart behind me. 953 01:28:27,119 --> 01:28:33,560 Oh shit, this fucking thing just like fell apart behind me. That 954 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,920 is wild. It's awesome. You can see what's going on behind you. 955 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:44,079 You got so much good stuff. And what let's just say what cre crime. 956 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:49,800 The guys that filmed us with the um cinematography in the in the audio, 957 01:28:50,279 --> 01:28:56,119 we're from crew trying or crew. I can't mercury retrograde, I can't 958 01:28:56,159 --> 01:29:04,239 talk help me true crime, true crime. And they were scared shitless when 959 01:29:04,279 --> 01:29:10,960 I went through my walkthrough and they weren't paranormal, said, they weren't really 960 01:29:11,319 --> 01:29:17,600 filming and paranormal. Yeah, but a lot of our film crews don't. 961 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,880 A lot of our film crews, like when we went to the conjuring house, 962 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:28,840 they our cameraman there. He was crapping his breeches because he normally don't 963 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,840 film paranormal. And when we opened that portal, he was the only one 964 01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:41,560 that still had any equipment going as far as handheld equipment because and he was 965 01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:46,239 he was literally white as a ghost that he didn't know whether the ship had 966 01:29:46,319 --> 01:29:49,920 gone blood. I thought he was going to run right out of there. 967 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:57,760 And I can't wait to see the hid footage because that was though. That 968 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:03,800 twenty minutes was was amazing. I mean, and he I gotta say he 969 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:09,560 held his ground. He kept filming, he kept filming, but he looked 970 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,479 like he was gonna run at any second. This is what this is what 971 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:18,720 we're saying, like this stuff that we do is beyond comfortable. I was 972 01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:21,600 where what I was in that meat locker for an hour? Was I not 973 01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:30,760 JWA by myself in that belf ifs that I do? And you've seen the 974 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:35,479 satellite system behind her, Yes, that wide heart is part of the satellite 975 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:43,000 system. So she's being monitored by both audio and video while she's in this 976 01:30:43,239 --> 01:30:48,760 isolation session, which you could say Ste's method whatever. If you wanted to 977 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:53,279 do an Ste's method, you could do it with my system with I don't 978 01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:58,560 know, eighteen people in eighteen different locations over eighty acres. You want to 979 01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:03,800 do an Ste's method that people together, I'll do it all right, But 980 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:10,239 that's a lot to monitor. But that's basically one of the examples of what 981 01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,760 my sister will do. That's really cool and we love that. We do 982 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,960 a show. We're in a rotation with Great Cass We mentioned before the show. 983 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:24,199 He has a one called Metaphysical Crossings where we do a blind sts methods 984 01:31:24,279 --> 01:31:28,840 and let me throw some experiments of our own somebody, yeah, which you 985 01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,760 know, yeah, each week, but this is this is I, like 986 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:34,399 I said earlier, next level and before we're going to want to talk to 987 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:39,279 you guys after the show. Um, this next video I have is says 988 01:31:39,399 --> 01:31:42,199 a sky and Matt IDC device. Do you want to set that up? 989 01:31:45,319 --> 01:31:48,279 It's a nice thing. Yeah. That would have been the id that was 990 01:31:48,399 --> 01:31:56,560 at the Nickerson sneed in West Virginia. Was that when we combine the car 991 01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,279 during house with the Knickerson State that night or was at a different time that 992 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:05,039 was the same weekend, same weekend, Yeah, wend I was there investigating. 993 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:14,279 We used my intercom system to connect the Nickerson Speed House to the Conjuring 994 01:32:14,359 --> 01:32:18,640 House. Okay this was years ago, Yeah, this was well. I 995 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:27,760 was actually with Nick Gross that weekend um doing um a seance revisited and I 996 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,439 decided to run one of my own extremis when we did weren't doing something else, 997 01:32:32,159 --> 01:32:35,600 and Nick he really didn't care what, you know, as long as 998 01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,920 I didn't interfere with this stuff. He's like, do what you want to 999 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:44,640 do, yea. So we did this experiment where we connected the two houses 1000 01:32:45,279 --> 01:32:50,479 and see what we got using the system to do it. And um, 1001 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:55,439 who's got the video there? I guess? Yeah, so all right here 1002 01:32:55,479 --> 01:33:04,239 it comes to bring this videos, you'll lose Norma. I can't. There's 1003 01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:12,239 something's walking the way that somewhere, but I can't tell where it's coming. 1004 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,119 M yeah, that's here the high field, like people think. I just 1005 01:33:15,399 --> 01:33:21,720 think that the Douglas are you here walking the booth? The while I walking 1006 01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:36,319 out there, I find who watch with that letting me? I think that's 1007 01:33:36,359 --> 01:33:42,720 where I heard was letting me. So I followed some bathroom. Yeah, 1008 01:33:44,279 --> 01:33:47,199 we've had something walking in the hole with I can't because I heard myself in 1009 01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:53,039 the herror. I literally walked in seeing my reflection and I'm just seeing my 1010 01:33:53,119 --> 01:34:00,359 pants. I forgot the whole mirror. Was there? Who was that that 1011 01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,880 just said? Let me? He's here? Yeah, he's right with me. 1012 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:13,039 He's been following me. He's outside with me, Chid, Chip Chip, 1013 01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:19,760 Cheetah. What's your name? Who would you hear that? Laughing? 1014 01:34:20,079 --> 01:34:31,399 Yeah? Who are you? Aney? That's my dad? That's my dad. 1015 01:34:34,079 --> 01:34:40,960 What are you doing? He says? All are you Sky's dad? 1016 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:54,439 Are you Amy's dad? Can you make it sure she's okay? Number eight? 1017 01:34:56,239 --> 01:35:04,560 H? I don't? I would you say anything? Can here? 1018 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:09,600 Write me? All right? Yeah? When Al comes back? Toll be 1019 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:15,199 eight? Are you saying there's eight people in here? Here? Back? 1020 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:21,359 Yep? Asking what my middle name is? Can you tell me what Amy's 1021 01:35:21,399 --> 01:35:35,560 middle name is? M? I try again? Here? My dad is 1022 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:42,399 my god? Anthony, m h Anthony? Are you here with Sky? 1023 01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:56,119 With Amy? Pleased to calling you Sky my dad? Okay? I love 1024 01:35:56,199 --> 01:36:11,920 you? Do you have any messages for how cool? Cold? What that's 1025 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:16,319 a lie? Yeah? Hey, management, it's talking about my dad. 1026 01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:21,359 Really? Yeah, we were talking to here, remember again said his name 1027 01:36:21,359 --> 01:36:33,920 and everything here? Kevin? Kevin? Wow, Kevin. We always get 1028 01:36:34,039 --> 01:36:39,199 Kevin. They always shar does somebody try to communicate with Kevin because I have 1029 01:36:39,239 --> 01:36:46,439 a message for Kevin. Not much happening this, Okay, I want to 1030 01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,039 weigh in on this. I want to weigh in on this right here. 1031 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:55,479 Um, when I listen to my devices, I always close my eyes and 1032 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,800 I just I focus. You gotta remember this device that they're using. This 1033 01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:03,239 is the IDC direct Link. A lot of people have seen it on different 1034 01:37:03,399 --> 01:37:09,920 shows, but they never really truly explained it on the shows. This device 1035 01:37:10,079 --> 01:37:15,880 is scanning about ten thousand frequencies, whereas a normal ghostbox scans around two hundreds. 1036 01:37:15,319 --> 01:37:21,119 So just think about the odds of getting a verse through ten thousand frequencies 1037 01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:27,640 versus two hundred frequencies. And the normal radio is trying to actual focus on 1038 01:37:29,199 --> 01:37:35,000 film radio stations, whereas Vine is intentionally missing them. The way I designed 1039 01:37:35,079 --> 01:37:42,439 my tuners, I designed them to try to miss the FM stations. So 1040 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:47,199 when these voices are coming through, we're talking about ten thousand frequencies versus only 1041 01:37:47,279 --> 01:37:53,960 two hundred. We're talking about intelligent answers. But did you see him laying 1042 01:37:54,079 --> 01:37:59,239 his finger on the back The way I build the direct link. When I 1043 01:37:59,319 --> 01:38:03,600 originally create the direct link, I called it the direct link, and you 1044 01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:10,640 got to lay your finger on the back and energy will flow through our head 1045 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:15,680 on our chest are full of saltwater. They're very good receptors because there's a 1046 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,960 lot of saltwater in this area. Saltwater is a very good conductor. So 1047 01:38:21,399 --> 01:38:29,119 I meant the direct link to be that. I've now determined that that is 1048 01:38:29,159 --> 01:38:33,720 a misnomer. That device is not the direct link. The human being that's 1049 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:41,760 using it is the direct link. Whoever's holding it in their hand the direct 1050 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:45,279 link. Not that piece of plastic that's just a piece of plastic that some 1051 01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:50,239 guy in a cowboy had made. The direct link is that human being that's 1052 01:38:50,319 --> 01:38:56,880 holding it. So I was on track, but I wasn't quite on track. 1053 01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,279 And I built this in twenty fourteen. My first prototype was the end 1054 01:39:00,319 --> 01:39:05,880 of twenty thirteen. UM, and I've been building them ever since. UM. 1055 01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:12,319 I absolutely loved the device. It's not for everyone. UM. I 1056 01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:16,600 do know of a father and son team. UM, both of them have 1057 01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:24,199 abilities. Um. The father the son Devin can use it all day all 1058 01:39:24,319 --> 01:39:29,560 night, no matter what. The father, Stephen, he can't even get 1059 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,720 his hand near it, even if someone else is holding it without it going 1060 01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:39,720 that shit crazy and make it all kinds of noise, gets weird noises, 1061 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:45,880 loud. People cannot use this if certain abilities. I've only had one customer 1062 01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:55,159 send it back. She said it burner and most people with the abilities, 1063 01:39:55,279 --> 01:40:00,600 they can use this, but I designed it for people without abilities. But 1064 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:05,279 certain people with the good of these they can't even hold it without making so 1065 01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:13,159 there's such an energy transfer that happened that they it's almost like they're gonna blowout. 1066 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,199 And look, I was there, though I was present. I said, 1067 01:40:16,359 --> 01:40:19,960 did you hear me say? I forgot I went downstairs to the bathroom, 1068 01:40:20,039 --> 01:40:25,239 the public bathroom downstairs. I freaked out because there was a full mirror 1069 01:40:25,279 --> 01:40:28,039 and I'm like, oh shit, and it was me and I was laughing 1070 01:40:28,039 --> 01:40:30,760 because it was starting there. Yeah, we just did a seance and I 1071 01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:35,520 there a lot of crazy shit happened. And then you go in that room 1072 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:41,720 where they were doing just just um you know, divination stuff, Victorian style 1073 01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:45,159 stuff. I don't get into all that. I never used tools, um, 1074 01:40:46,279 --> 01:40:49,199 but as soon as I walked in, I felt that energy walked back 1075 01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:54,399 from from the baby. Because I was creeped out, I had the skidies. 1076 01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,840 I knew something was in the bathroom with me walked up and then we 1077 01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,199 got all that weird stuff. I'm not holding the device, so that's also 1078 01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:05,800 with just me being in the room. It amps up the energy anyway. 1079 01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:11,760 And I've noticed that because what was the other UM? I can't ever remember 1080 01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,560 the other one. That doesn't it shouldn't talk that I used that Bobby, 1081 01:41:16,199 --> 01:41:20,760 that one, that one worked well with me. And that's like a direct 1082 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,880 voice. Is that one. It isn't sweeping or it's just like on one 1083 01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:31,000 miss anything. My dr video is sweeping UM ten thousand frequencies, Steve. 1084 01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:38,439 But the way that I've designed the I don't want to go into a bunch 1085 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:43,600 of coding. But basically I buy a tuner that has free set from the 1086 01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:47,680 factory, but the tuner itself, the chips are empty, Okay. I 1087 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:54,640 design it to to to the parameters that I want. So I'm scanning from 1088 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:59,760 around fifty mega hurts to one hundred forty nine mega hurts just below the air 1089 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,279 audical band. Actually I've gone a little higher, and I'm three miles from 1090 01:42:03,319 --> 01:42:08,000 an airport and I was hearing pilots, so I backed it back down a 1091 01:42:08,079 --> 01:42:11,920 little bit. But that's me push those shits about to break and then back 1092 01:42:12,039 --> 01:42:15,479 up a little bit. That's what I did. But the way I designed 1093 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:20,119 this one was I took the pllal completely out of it, And by PLL 1094 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,039 I mean that's in the coding. I made it to where it would not 1095 01:42:25,279 --> 01:42:31,119 lock any FM frequency whatsoever, if you will not lock at all. Now, 1096 01:42:31,239 --> 01:42:38,399 most of my direct links are meant to minimize film interference. This one 1097 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:44,000 is meant to get completely rid of it. The kind of DRV is a 1098 01:42:44,079 --> 01:42:49,399 direct radio voice. Right, you're just basically scanning ten thousand frequencies of white 1099 01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:57,560 noise right to talk. Bobby Mackie's in between the actual spirit communications. In 1100 01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,760 that video, you notice how quiet it is between. You're hearing static, 1101 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,279 but you're not hearing any pieces of commercials, you know, hearing any pieces 1102 01:43:04,319 --> 01:43:09,000 of FM banter. No, if you want to hear the guy that's going 1103 01:43:09,039 --> 01:43:13,880 to sell you Ford pickups on Sunday or whatever, get a radio and you 1104 01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:17,399 don't want to speak to whatever's out there, get it directly. Yeah. 1105 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:23,239 I don't like commercials. I don't like commercials. Want to watch the TV. 1106 01:43:23,359 --> 01:43:25,960 I don't like commercials When I'm in the truck and a damn shore, 1107 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:30,520 I don't like commercials on my damn ghostbox. Oh yeah right, yeah, 1108 01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:32,479 same Semans. I know you're trying to pick it apart, like what was 1109 01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:38,000 you know, yeah, what was an ad? And I'm joking, but 1110 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:43,000 you know, no, it's it makes great sense. I love it, 1111 01:43:43,039 --> 01:43:45,439 and I love the way that sounded. The speed. It wasn't like super 1112 01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,039 fast either. It was just kind of going at a nice clip. Now, 1113 01:43:48,119 --> 01:43:54,319 and it's variable speed, and I could make it as fast as you 1114 01:43:54,439 --> 01:44:00,000 want. Yeah, I mean most of mine are between bad Miller seconds up 1115 01:44:00,079 --> 01:44:08,079 to around one hundred and twenty mediseconds um. But at that's if you turn 1116 01:44:08,239 --> 01:44:11,720 that thing all the way up. You have to record it and play it 1117 01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:19,600 back because you can't hear it unless got it. Okay. I guess Kevin 1118 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:24,279 Hard in the audience, because every time I get on here and I go 1119 01:44:24,399 --> 01:44:28,439 to tell this story, Kevin Martin shows up. Yeah right, okay, 1120 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:33,560 see Kevin celebrity n not that Kevin Hard. That's what he says. That's 1121 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:40,359 what he says on his thing. He's funny. Yeah, he wanted two 1122 01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:44,840 devices, he said, j w I know it'll still five thousand frequencies. 1123 01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,960 He goes, can I have one that'll do the first five one that'll do 1124 01:44:48,119 --> 01:44:51,640 the second five. And I'm like, well, yeah, that's what you 1125 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:56,960 want. I said, I'll even put a buffer in the middle. In 1126 01:44:57,119 --> 01:45:00,159 other words, one goes up and stops, and then the other one starts 1127 01:45:00,199 --> 01:45:04,680 a little higher and goes all the way up. He will set those two 1128 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:12,159 direct links side by side, okay, scanning five thousand frequencies each five thousand 1129 01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:17,000 different frequencies. A conversation will start in one direct link and end in the 1130 01:45:17,119 --> 01:45:23,319 other. Now, you explain to me how you're getting the same voice out 1131 01:45:23,359 --> 01:45:29,079 of two devices that aren't even scanning the same frequencies. Little jaw, he 1132 01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:32,119 didn't mean justin did that? And the women in the men's part at this 1133 01:45:32,159 --> 01:45:38,319 aylum, remember when we connected, Yeah, it happened. So these are 1134 01:45:38,399 --> 01:45:44,439 things I can't those. That's why I labeled those davs direct applied voices. 1135 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:49,319 They're not. They're they're using the frequencies to ride, but they're not using 1136 01:45:49,399 --> 01:45:56,399 audio snippits. They're directly applied their voice to that device. And then we're 1137 01:45:56,479 --> 01:46:00,880 intelligent. They're intelligent. Yes, I love this. It's great. Now, 1138 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,760 I just need you to record those clear audience experiences that don't seem to 1139 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:10,720 get recorded by anything else, because we've had that happened too, ye where 1140 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,720 you like, how does that work? You know, it's almost like it 1141 01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:18,399 just vibrate your age and nothing else but awesome, awesome stuff, awesome tech 1142 01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:23,199 tech going on. Your guys are great. I know more than a few 1143 01:46:23,239 --> 01:46:27,359 people asked in the audience where your next project is and what you're working on. 1144 01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:33,840 I have several projects in the works. I think I will have a 1145 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:41,439 live feed by the end of the year. Hopefully I will be back with 1146 01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:47,720 dark Zone again where I've been with dark Zone at places like Lizzie Borden. 1147 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:56,960 Dark Zone's done the Queen Mary Conjuring House, so I think we're gonna have 1148 01:46:57,079 --> 01:47:00,760 that project coming up the end of the year with dark Zone. Hopefully it's 1149 01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:05,600 a three to five day live of them. Anybody wants to to get in 1150 01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:12,399 on that, that's gonna be amazing. We have a couple of documentaries that 1151 01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:15,600 are going to be coming out before the end of this year that have been 1152 01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:24,720 that are in various stages of completion. And I'm also working with right now 1153 01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:30,119 two different TV shows. Of course you can't say the names of them, 1154 01:47:30,279 --> 01:47:34,840 but you see the ones where my equipments being used, my direct links and 1155 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:41,560 stuff like that. But I do have some experiments coming up with a couple 1156 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:47,239 of shows that I hope will air probably next year. So yeah, we 1157 01:47:47,399 --> 01:47:56,199 got quite a few projects that are going on right now. Sounds amazing. 1158 01:47:56,359 --> 01:48:00,199 Yeah, sounds amazing. And where are the best places for people to find 1159 01:48:00,199 --> 01:48:02,279 you? I know we have a couple of links. Should they find you 1160 01:48:02,359 --> 01:48:06,399 on Facebook? You mentioned it the best way to keep up with me? 1161 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:15,399 Um, you shared my YouTube. Yes, I would definitely appreciate the views 1162 01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:24,520 on there. But everybody my YouTube seems to get mintlator most people. I 1163 01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:29,479 don't know how, but it does because I ramble like I do on here. 1164 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:34,960 But um but Facebook, and then I have my Patreon, which if 1165 01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:42,600 you go to my Facebook you'll see my patreon. Please get devices from me. 1166 01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:49,560 I'm not necessarily building to the public because I can't build to the devand 1167 01:48:50,239 --> 01:48:55,399 I can't build that many. I'm not bragging. I'm just saying every time 1168 01:48:55,479 --> 01:49:00,960 it shows up on another show or another rerun, my email just blows up. 1169 01:49:02,039 --> 01:49:06,039 And I can't I build these by hand. I can't. I can't 1170 01:49:06,159 --> 01:49:11,079 build to that kind of demand. I don't have a factory. Yeah, 1171 01:49:11,239 --> 01:49:15,439 right, it's just you know you and yeah, it's just me and these 1172 01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:23,399 are built by me with my theories. Um right, so yeah, I 1173 01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:28,520 just can't mass produce this. Right, Well, we understand. That's that's 1174 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,920 a lot. That's a that's excellent. I just put out your Facebook uh 1175 01:49:32,119 --> 01:49:36,760 out in our all our chats. Yes, thank you you guys. Yeah, 1176 01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:43,199 anybody can find me on my website, but mostly um would be my 1177 01:49:43,319 --> 01:49:48,039 business page at medium, sky ray on Facebook. I have TikTok, I 1178 01:49:48,119 --> 01:49:53,640 have Instagram. Um what else is there? Guys? I have you, 1179 01:49:54,640 --> 01:50:00,039 I do have YouTube. I haven't, but be careful because it's called I 1180 01:50:00,119 --> 01:50:03,920 can't uncensored for Yeah, we're not. We're we use that for our fun 1181 01:50:04,079 --> 01:50:09,560 things and like yeah, our rants and our creative things. So there's a 1182 01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:17,560 lot of pental mine, okayed cool filter. Yeah, we're we're pretty personable 1183 01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:21,600 and real. We don't we don't try to hide anything. We're pretty cool. 1184 01:50:23,079 --> 01:50:27,760 But we saw our friend Brandon Cooper out there and Sea and Sundays and 1185 01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:31,640 he gave you a shout out. Hey, Hi, So I guess I 1186 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:36,760 think you guys know him. He mentioned yeah, like Jay was saying earlier, 1187 01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:42,119 you know, like we've never sought people out. People have always sought 1188 01:50:42,279 --> 01:50:46,920 us out. And I think that's the crazy thing because before the whole conjuring 1189 01:50:47,079 --> 01:50:51,920 thing happened and the Institute with us, you know, trying to get all 1190 01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:58,560 that together. Um is Stacy Brown from Outcast Paranormal contacts me out of the 1191 01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:02,159 blue off Instagram and he didn't even know that I worked with Justin or Jay 1192 01:51:02,239 --> 01:51:06,359 Pryor and he's like, UM, I need I need your help. Um, 1193 01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,920 can you know? And I'm like, do you know that I work 1194 01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:14,560 with these guys, that I'm very close with them and we've already done projects 1195 01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:18,520 together. He's like, no, because we don't advertise. We don't. 1196 01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:24,319 We don't, we don't need I don't go around telling everybody that I hang 1197 01:51:24,399 --> 01:51:30,800 out with Justice Farrior and Sky and and Corey and I just do my thing. 1198 01:51:30,039 --> 01:51:33,479 We just live a lie, just do our thing, and whatever happens, 1199 01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:39,439 it happens. But the whole thing happened to me. I'm gonna do 1200 01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:45,199 this whether anybody ever sees it or not. I'm just it's war on mission. 1201 01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:51,000 We want to you want to yell this for for the next generations when 1202 01:51:51,039 --> 01:51:58,520 we're going, Um, you know, it's important, it's it's I've lived 1203 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,239 this my whole life. This is what I've meant to do. I've turned 1204 01:52:01,279 --> 01:52:06,640 down many shows, believe you me. I've had people playing me. I've 1205 01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:11,079 written behind the scenes. There's things that I've done that people don't even know. 1206 01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:15,359 Oh, I know. There's projects that I've been involved with that nobody 1207 01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:19,319 knows I was involved with. I don't say much now. And I have 1208 01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:27,359 turned down some shows. I won't say which ones. They just didn't fit. 1209 01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:33,239 Yeah, I can to the shows now. I built for all of 1210 01:52:33,319 --> 01:52:40,640 them. I mean I built for Kesha um that that experiment that she ran 1211 01:52:41,119 --> 01:52:45,680 at UM the Opera House. The Opera House. Yeah, I built that. 1212 01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,640 Actually, it's setting back out in my garage because I didn't give it 1213 01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:53,800 to him by ask for it back. But I built them an experiment for 1214 01:52:54,039 --> 01:52:58,439 Kesha for the opera House. Wow. Wow. I mean this is what 1215 01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:04,560 I do. I will built for TV shows from small to large. Oh, 1216 01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:10,479 you guys so interesting because the medium. Since you want to brag Jay, 1217 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:14,399 I'm just gonna brag him in it. You don't, I don't want 1218 01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:18,079 to hear it now. I got in contact with UM ghost Hunters from A 1219 01:53:18,159 --> 01:53:23,760 and E. Darryl Morston I worked in an event with him. Um I 1220 01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:28,520 did I think three separate events and a couple of different states. Um. 1221 01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:33,039 I did read for him. He you know, gave me a good recommendation 1222 01:53:33,279 --> 01:53:38,359 with my mediumship skills. I also got to read for Carney Wilson a few 1223 01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:44,520 times. Um. Everybody knows the Long Island medium her mentor Pat long ago. 1224 01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:50,359 I've actually got to sit in with her one class she had and ended 1225 01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:55,760 up helping teach her class because she pulled me to the side and I did 1226 01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:59,439 a reading for her while she did a healing on me. And then I 1227 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:04,880 helped her teach her twenty students. And that's Long Island mediums. Yeah, 1228 01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:11,680 and that's Russo's colleague. So I mean that's where I'm I'm a little bit 1229 01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:18,920 different because I don't limit myself and not everything's you know, rainbows and skittles 1230 01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:24,000 and shit blown out your ass like fairy dust. It just isn't like that. 1231 01:54:24,159 --> 01:54:29,239 There's negative and there is light, and so you embraced or went through 1232 01:54:29,319 --> 01:54:31,199 darkness. You don't know a damn thing, and I don't care who you 1233 01:54:31,279 --> 01:54:34,239 are. It's not all love and light, that's right, and now it's 1234 01:54:34,279 --> 01:54:39,399 not. It just isn't. It's how you perceive things. But once you 1235 01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:43,359 go through something, you can't go back. You have to move forward and 1236 01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:47,640 you have to apply that knowledge and then share that wisdom and teach others. 1237 01:54:48,039 --> 01:54:51,439 And that's what's important. And that's why I think our mission is important, 1238 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:58,760 because we're trying to have these breakthroughs of evidence showing the data that hasn't been 1239 01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,920 done scientifically, because it is important, and yet people have done it, 1240 01:55:02,039 --> 01:55:08,159 people our brains, but there's been done the way we do it scientifically. 1241 01:55:08,479 --> 01:55:12,239 Right, they either do it in the lab or other people do stuff. 1242 01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:18,920 They do run experiments. Yeah, I'm combining the two, and but take 1243 01:55:19,239 --> 01:55:26,439 out of the laboratory and out to where it actually is happening, and it 1244 01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:32,680 makes a big difference. It really does. It's consolutely um, what's the 1245 01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:41,000 word we want to call it. It's breaking the paradigm. It's it's breaking 1246 01:55:41,039 --> 01:55:45,319 the paradigm, groundbreaking, it's it's a it's just next level. Yeah, 1247 01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:50,079 it is. It's amazing. And I get that, and I'm hard to 1248 01:55:50,239 --> 01:55:56,319 understand and I get that. So No, I think you're in a great 1249 01:55:56,359 --> 01:56:00,399 place for what you're you're talking about because we do understand you and now we 1250 01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,039 love that, and I think we've been solely conditioning our audience to kind of 1251 01:56:03,079 --> 01:56:08,560 pick up on right. Right, there's a bigger world out here than you 1252 01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,239 know what's maybe being sold to you on various websites. Right, Who doesn't 1253 01:56:12,319 --> 01:56:14,880 want to live a better life. I mean, that's what we're doing. 1254 01:56:15,079 --> 01:56:20,079 That's what we're doing here really while we're going into the paranormal world too and 1255 01:56:20,239 --> 01:56:27,319 trying to discover those unknown things. So I know we've been going for two 1256 01:56:27,359 --> 01:56:29,199 hours, and I don't know what your time limit it is, but I 1257 01:56:29,239 --> 01:56:33,079 did have two markets. You want to go Conduring House. You mentioned a 1258 01:56:33,119 --> 01:56:36,079 conjuring house, and I can't say too much about a documentary that's not out 1259 01:56:36,159 --> 01:56:42,000 yet, but your impression of the place, we've been there ourselves. Do 1260 01:56:42,079 --> 01:56:44,920 you think it is something to do with something that happened there or maybe the 1261 01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:51,560 property itself or some combination thereof that's a big question. All the above, 1262 01:56:53,600 --> 01:57:03,800 All the above. Yeah, in the last twenty years, I get at 1263 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:10,720 the Condran House, me and Corey, we both talk about this at great 1264 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:15,680 links. I absolutely loved that house and I have since the first night I've 1265 01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:25,279 slept there. And I'm outside of maybe Corey and and John and Bill and 1266 01:57:25,399 --> 01:57:30,680 some of these other guys. I've probably slept there more nights than most humans 1267 01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:35,319 on Earth, and I absolutely love the place. There's an energy there. 1268 01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:43,680 I do not feel that there's anything evil there, but it's definitely it's Area 1269 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:49,239 one one one in my time, and you will see whenever the documentary comes 1270 01:57:49,279 --> 01:57:59,680 out mathematically it's Area one one one. This area is definitely a central point. 1271 01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:03,439 It's one of many many that's in this universe and on this Earth. 1272 01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:09,439 Yes, that just happens to be one of them. But there's nothing evil 1273 01:58:10,039 --> 01:58:15,279 at the Conjuring House. I sleep like a baby at that sucker. There's 1274 01:58:15,359 --> 01:58:19,039 just a lot of history. But like you said, there could be lay 1275 01:58:19,079 --> 01:58:24,199 lines there that he goes all the way back to John Smith. It all 1276 01:58:24,199 --> 01:58:29,119 the way back to the beginning. Yeah. Yeah, it's got three sixteen 1277 01:58:29,199 --> 01:58:32,159 o five. I mean, this thing goes all the way back. And 1278 01:58:32,319 --> 01:58:35,199 look at the look at the stone, look at the well, look at 1279 01:58:35,319 --> 01:58:39,239 look at what holds energy, look at where the water runs, look at 1280 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:47,359 you gotta you gotta put all these things, you know into it's it's not 1281 01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:54,560 just any one thing. No conduring House. If the Conjuring House is no 1282 01:58:54,920 --> 01:59:02,520 simple location my math on this thing, and I've known the house very well, 1283 01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:09,159 but I knew it even better mathematically at the end of this last experiment. 1284 01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:16,439 It's it's a complicated place and there's so much going on there. But 1285 01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:24,640 there is nothing evil at this house. And I'm not. If Jacqueline's watching, 1286 01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:28,640 I'm sorry, I'm not trying to because she loves her new house, 1287 01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:33,840 and Jacqueline is amazing. For everybody watching, Jacqueline is amazing the new owner, 1288 01:59:34,079 --> 01:59:40,359 she is awesome. Definitely booked your your time at the Comfe House. 1289 01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:45,960 I promise you you will not be disappointed. But I do not believe that 1290 01:59:46,159 --> 01:59:55,319 there's anything evil there. But there's a lot of strange energy there is now 1291 01:59:56,439 --> 02:00:00,399 and it is everything down there. Mess around and think you're not going to 1292 02:00:00,479 --> 02:00:05,079 get your ask here and don't go with a bad don't that's what I believed 1293 02:00:05,159 --> 02:00:14,199 that, Yeah, I don't anything. Maliquis right. Well, it's like 1294 02:00:14,439 --> 02:00:17,239 it's like I say, you know, I live in a two hundred year 1295 02:00:17,279 --> 02:00:21,359 old farmhouse. I don't live alone here, I never feel alone, but 1296 02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:28,560 that energy is here. It's been built. You know, a blacksmith work 1297 02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:33,600 right outside. You know the driveway area had that area, and back in 1298 02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:39,600 that time, men the women weren't weren't supposed to speak unless spoken to. 1299 02:00:40,359 --> 02:00:43,279 You know, I had a lot of crap I dealt with in just this 1300 02:00:43,439 --> 02:00:47,520 house, let alone the conjuring house and what history lays there. So what 1301 02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:51,720 I always say is we're the haunted ones. If you have gifts and you 1302 02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:57,359 just don't know what you're getting and what you're experiencing, it's all in one. 1303 02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:01,840 It all goes together one way or the other. And it were perspective, 1304 02:01:02,039 --> 02:01:05,600 it is your intent. Are you there to screw with ship? Because 1305 02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:10,399 ship will come screw with you? Silly We always say go in, you 1306 02:01:10,479 --> 02:01:14,279 know, without you don't have to like, you know, ramp them up, 1307 02:01:14,319 --> 02:01:16,239 and yeah, there's no reason, but you do that. Why it 1308 02:01:16,479 --> 02:01:23,319 normal? You are best results you get exactly always. I have a thing 1309 02:01:23,479 --> 02:01:27,039 as well, is when we go into locations like that, like very known 1310 02:01:27,159 --> 02:01:31,640 locations, anything like Lizzie Board and or anything, people also drop off their 1311 02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:40,640 own baggage and leave it good. So it's it will stay for a while. 1312 02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:45,239 Sometimes it stays permanently. It just depends on the impact of Usually it's 1313 02:01:45,279 --> 02:01:50,439 the trauma or the right you know, whatever, whatever the residual um. 1314 02:01:53,399 --> 02:01:59,560 It could be anything. It could be loathing everything, you know, lightening 1315 02:02:00,039 --> 02:02:04,239 and fairy dust, you know. Not everything is dark and demons. It's 1316 02:02:04,319 --> 02:02:10,680 not. It's rare. It's rare. We would agree that it is seemingly 1317 02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:14,439 a portal area. In fact that because that week we got from our trip 1318 02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:17,520 there was wasn't anything evil at all. Yeah, there wasn't, but there 1319 02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:23,960 was like evidence of something you know, um going on, human occurring, 1320 02:02:24,039 --> 02:02:26,640 and it was really good data and I'm just going to call it data. 1321 02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:30,479 But it wasn't evil in any way. It was a little sad. And 1322 02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:32,399 that's how it was that Bobby Nakis I was like, yeah, there were 1323 02:02:32,479 --> 02:02:36,560 some shitty assholes that were here. There were assholes in life, they're assholes 1324 02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:42,199 and death. I had it come up and just go right in my ear 1325 02:02:42,239 --> 02:02:45,239 and I went running. They're like, yeah, you weren't even here for 1326 02:02:45,359 --> 02:02:48,039 three minutes. You went running for the front door. I said, I 1327 02:02:48,159 --> 02:02:53,239 felt the breath, I felt the energy just like engulfed me. And I 1328 02:02:53,399 --> 02:02:58,000 was like, I it was a human response. I went right back to 1329 02:02:58,039 --> 02:03:00,640 where I was at. I was like, shit, yeah, yeah, 1330 02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:05,039 yeah, he just wanted to mess with me. But after that interact. 1331 02:03:05,359 --> 02:03:10,640 Damn, damn, damn. Just everything just kept happening, right. There 1332 02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:15,239 was nothing evil there. There was nothing evil there. I mean it's been 1333 02:03:15,279 --> 02:03:18,520 negative. There wasn't negative presence. There was negative presence there. Yeah, 1334 02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:24,680 but that's completely basically it wasn't bad. However, we walked outside in the 1335 02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:28,600 back, it's beautiful, the properties like yeah, yeah, I went all 1336 02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:31,439 through there. Yeah. And in the back way way in the back is 1337 02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:35,319 um like after the stone wall, it's just a dead tree lane. There 1338 02:03:35,399 --> 02:03:39,319 a big dead tree. And I walked up to the dead tree and it 1339 02:03:39,439 --> 02:03:43,760 gave me a very I got anxiety. Yeah, Chris was like, I 1340 02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:45,520 don't know, thirty feet away from me to Chris, I walked back, 1341 02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:49,079 came back. I felt fine when I walked back, you know, like 1342 02:03:49,159 --> 02:03:53,840 ten feet came back up, did the same thing. So it's not just 1343 02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:58,159 spirits, it's it's property wise as well. It's land. Yeah, you 1344 02:03:58,359 --> 02:04:03,760 have the element yeah, which we had a question would you stand on elementals? 1345 02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:11,520 What do you think about elementals working with them? Okay, I am 1346 02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:18,880 very diverse in all areas of religion and occult and um, I'm very electic, 1347 02:04:19,079 --> 02:04:24,640 so I'm not ever just one way. Yeah, I am. I 1348 02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:30,720 do have Shumanism in me. Um. My grandmother was full blooded Cherokee, 1349 02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:34,319 and then my dad's mom was a medium, a full blown medium. She 1350 02:04:34,479 --> 02:04:38,239 died at forty two. She died young. She died when he was four, 1351 02:04:38,399 --> 02:04:42,680 and he's full full blooded Italians. So I mean, I've got a 1352 02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:48,199 lot of generational background stuff that I just like recently found out on my dad's 1353 02:04:48,199 --> 02:04:53,960 side. But it's nuts, it's nuts. So yeah, with the elementals, 1354 02:04:54,079 --> 02:04:59,319 there's several different types. And then you're working with you know, if 1355 02:04:59,359 --> 02:05:04,760 you're working in in the shamanistic aspect, you're you know, you're your north, 1356 02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:09,000 your east, your west, and you got your south. You got 1357 02:05:09,079 --> 02:05:12,520 your earth, your air, your fire, and your water. Um. 1358 02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:16,439 But there's also things that I have seen that people don't even believe exists. 1359 02:05:17,399 --> 02:05:21,680 That's where I'm different. That's why I don't fit in a category or never 1360 02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:28,800 fit in with other mediums because the things that I have seen and experience are 1361 02:05:30,479 --> 02:05:33,960 you can't even make a horror movie that bad. You just can't. Do 1362 02:05:34,399 --> 02:05:39,199 They hurt me? Do they bother me out? In one time? Yes, 1363 02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:42,119 but not any art because I had to learn about it. It was 1364 02:05:42,279 --> 02:05:46,680 my way, my path. But that's what makes me different. And elemental 1365 02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:50,520 stuff. You got to be more specific because there's all types of elementals. 1366 02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:59,880 Well, let me ask Chris question. Yeah, Chris, sure, before 1367 02:06:00,119 --> 02:06:06,000 elements, which one do you most relate to personally? Yes? Yeah, 1368 02:06:08,279 --> 02:06:12,359 Well I'm a fire sign if we want to get a fire signed. But 1369 02:06:13,279 --> 02:06:16,680 and that could play a part in it. But which do you? Are 1370 02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:23,079 you drawn to the sea or you I'm trying to water a lot water? 1371 02:06:23,319 --> 02:06:31,840 Okay? Yeah? And your environment? What I told you that you could 1372 02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:41,000 have been an elemental or you may one day be an elemental water. I 1373 02:06:41,159 --> 02:06:46,680 may be one now. But the thing energy cannot be created or destroyed. 1374 02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:51,199 And we've already discussed this. We've already decided it was all made and it 1375 02:06:51,279 --> 02:06:57,399 will never go away. When you leave here, Chris, you're not leaving. 1376 02:06:57,960 --> 02:07:01,920 You're simply going to a new place. What if you were an elemental 1377 02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:09,159 next You're going to be elemental in the past. Your energy is going to 1378 02:07:09,319 --> 02:07:15,800 go somewhere. It cannot disappear. If you're no longer on Earth. You 1379 02:07:16,199 --> 02:07:20,960 not not, Chris, But what is you? The energy that is you? 1380 02:07:23,079 --> 02:07:28,119 If you're no longer on Earth five hundred years from now, where will 1381 02:07:28,239 --> 02:07:32,319 you be because you will be somewhere, Chris, and you will be something. 1382 02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:38,640 What if you were in water elemental then not just on Earth? What 1383 02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:44,760 what if you were a watermental on another planet in another dimension? Just to 1384 02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:50,680 really row your viewers up. If your mind spinning, who's to say that 1385 02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:57,079 you weren't what we call an alien and you were an alien five hundred years 1386 02:07:57,119 --> 02:08:03,600 ago because you are on that planet in that dimension five hundred years ago. 1387 02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:09,960 But now your energy is here in Chris, on this planet at this moment 1388 02:08:09,560 --> 02:08:13,880 for I don't know, one hundred years. Must give you one hundred and 1389 02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:16,680 five years. I want you to be a no mayor. You're here on 1390 02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:20,840 this planet for one hundred and five years as Chris. This is where me 1391 02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:30,880 and Jay getting our debates. So you gotta go somewhere, and you had 1392 02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:35,840 to come from somewhere exactly. But since the universe and universe isn't even a 1393 02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:45,159 good word, because there's universes on the outside of our universe, even Honeycomb, 1394 02:08:46,239 --> 02:08:50,279 there's there's outsides of the outside of the outside. Right, you could 1395 02:08:50,279 --> 02:08:56,079 have done anywhere. You could have come from anywhere, and you can go 1396 02:08:56,439 --> 02:09:01,399 anywhere when you leave here. My experiment allows you for ten to fifteen minutes, 1397 02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:07,399 go wherever it is that you're free. Your photons, your tachions are 1398 02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:15,760 free for at least five, ten fifteen minutes and as a participant, and 1399 02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:22,399 you can travel and you can see where your energy can go. It's amazing 1400 02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:28,000 the things that I've experienced, like anti travel. Yeah, it's like a 1401 02:09:28,479 --> 02:09:33,319 traveling but we're limited. We can't go for more than a few minutes before 1402 02:09:33,119 --> 02:09:39,399 the mass of our photons, the mass of our tachions can slows us back 1403 02:09:39,479 --> 02:09:45,079 down because God or the universe or the Creator whatever has decided, No, 1404 02:09:45,399 --> 02:09:48,439 get your ass back over there where you were setting at. That's where you're 1405 02:09:48,479 --> 02:09:52,159 supposed to be for the next nine five years. So we only get a 1406 02:09:52,239 --> 02:09:58,800 few minutes, but I can what we're working on is giving somebody those few 1407 02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:07,000 minutes to go and see what is possible, what's possible. It's kind of 1408 02:10:07,119 --> 02:10:11,520 possible that you may have waken for now and what's possible in the future. 1409 02:10:11,319 --> 02:10:16,600 Right, So, your listener wanted to know more about the elemental stuff, 1410 02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:20,399 but I did want to queue in on something that Jay says because me and 1411 02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:24,199 him don't always agree on everything, and I love it because I need him 1412 02:10:24,239 --> 02:10:28,920 to challenge me and he has to challenge you know, its vice versa. 1413 02:10:30,359 --> 02:10:33,119 But like he was staying with you, Chris, you're you're fire right, 1414 02:10:33,319 --> 02:10:39,319 I'm an air sign. I'm Gemini, I'm dolty, I am versatile, 1415 02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:45,439 I am on the East Coast, but I am an air sign. But 1416 02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:54,159 I identify with fire right. Right. Yeah, they can go anyway really 1417 02:10:54,399 --> 02:10:58,479 and it can be all yeah, you know just as well as I do. 1418 02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:01,199 Jay, there's no limits. And what if we give you choose what 1419 02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:07,000 see, I haven't touched on that. What if we choose when we leave 1420 02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:13,079 here, where we're going next and what we're going to do when we leave 1421 02:11:13,159 --> 02:11:18,399 here. Well, there are different higher God behaviors. God could give us 1422 02:11:18,520 --> 02:11:24,920 free for our energy of where we're going to go next and what we're gonna 1423 02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:28,119 do next. I don't know. Maybe there's a brochure, I don't know, 1424 02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:31,560 and you just pick it out and you're talking to a real estate agent 1425 02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:41,000 or you're talking to a travel were christ Christen today And that's a soul contracts 1426 02:11:41,039 --> 02:11:48,039 an intervention, that's divine intervention. It's already done, it's already written. 1427 02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:50,640 I wanted to make the comment before because we were talking about like you know 1428 02:11:50,920 --> 02:11:54,880 we were there's the conjuring house as at evil and not early offending the new 1429 02:11:54,960 --> 02:12:00,680 owner Jacqueline. I think any kind of interaction with something that is outside of 1430 02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:05,960 your realm when it really happens, when you experience real phenomena, it's scary 1431 02:12:05,039 --> 02:12:09,920 as hell if you're not used to it best. The unknown is scary and 1432 02:12:11,079 --> 02:12:13,399 the story. You know, something moves across the table and you know, 1433 02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:18,000 oh my god, that really happened, and your physics go out the window 1434 02:12:18,039 --> 02:12:22,760 and your brain is just going, what just happened there? It's enough. 1435 02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:30,439 It doesn't You will see it in this upcoming documentary. You will actually say 1436 02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:37,199 me lose my ship because I don't care how season in investigator you are. 1437 02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:43,279 When you when it actually slaps you in the face, you got to step 1438 02:12:43,359 --> 02:12:50,720 back because the human brain has a hard time wrapping its head even though you 1439 02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:56,439 just prepared free body, and the brain does not understand what's happening together nope 1440 02:12:56,600 --> 02:13:01,439 and wants of preparation. One week of doing it and when it all ship 1441 02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:05,079 the bed for twenty minutes, we didn't know what I mean. Yeah, 1442 02:13:05,479 --> 02:13:11,600 I'm not happy with my behavior at that moment. I did lose protocol steaming 1443 02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:16,720 reaction though it's it's north, yes, it is. When it actually happened, 1444 02:13:16,840 --> 02:13:22,800 right, you have a hard time wrapping your Your brain doesn't want to 1445 02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:28,520 wrap around it's fight or flight. Yeah, I mean that's the human conditioning. 1446 02:13:28,199 --> 02:13:35,319 It's the reprogramming that's important. It's the re learning this. And I 1447 02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,960 like to I like to say I'm cool, calm and collective. I was 1448 02:13:39,039 --> 02:13:43,279 a marine, I wrote Rodeo. I grew up in West Texas, down 1449 02:13:43,359 --> 02:13:46,560 by the mortar. I mean, I have lived a pretty rough life. 1450 02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:52,039 I've dealt with a lot of crap. But when this hits you right in 1451 02:13:52,159 --> 02:13:56,399 the face, yeah, you take a step back because your brain's just not 1452 02:13:56,880 --> 02:14:01,239 white, red, string, all of it, exactly. I'd rather get 1453 02:14:01,319 --> 02:14:05,800 punched in the mouth sometimes than to try to figure out right and the world 1454 02:14:07,079 --> 02:14:13,720 was that, what does something happen? Yeah? What, I gotta go 1455 02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:16,439 outside. I don't know. Let me go take a walk for a minute, 1456 02:14:16,439 --> 02:14:22,960 because I gotta figure this shit out. Wrapping around it, right, 1457 02:14:24,239 --> 02:14:28,199 It could be difficult. It could be difficult. Psychologically, it can be 1458 02:14:28,439 --> 02:14:33,079 very difficult. And that's one of the reasons why my participants we do look 1459 02:14:33,119 --> 02:14:41,439 at the psychological we do the psyche vows to make sure and of course there's 1460 02:14:41,479 --> 02:14:46,079 only so much you can do to prepare for this. Are you with me? 1461 02:14:46,239 --> 02:14:54,319 I mean, yeah, Sky did wash both being Sky like she said, 1462 02:14:54,720 --> 02:15:00,439 we we both studied criminology. We both studied psychology. UM dealt with 1463 02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:07,159 it for years in various aspects of my life personally and very for me. 1464 02:15:07,319 --> 02:15:11,640 It's very hard to determine how a person's going to react. Yeah, when 1465 02:15:11,720 --> 02:15:16,479 it just walks up and punches them in the face. Yeah, you gotta 1466 02:15:16,560 --> 02:15:22,640 be careful exactly. Yeah, and we're we've got it. We have enough 1467 02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:26,920 training under us to keep it under control. I don't think we're ever going 1468 02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:33,079 to have I've never had bad experiences. I've been able to bring people two 1469 02:15:33,159 --> 02:15:37,960 levels of consciousness many times. I did it since I was seventeen years old. 1470 02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:41,000 Um, it was a natural gift in and ability that I could do. 1471 02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:45,680 It's just it's a part of my purpose, and that's why I'm where 1472 02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:50,039 I'm at, and that's why we're together, working um simultaneously with you know, 1473 02:15:50,199 --> 02:15:56,840 everybody else, because you have people human part. I'm very good with 1474 02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:01,359 the math, I'm very good with the but I have to run things by 1475 02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:09,159 her to get the human psychological part of it that I may be missing because 1476 02:16:09,359 --> 02:16:16,439 I don't I don't quite see that clearly. Now doesn't mean we agree on 1477 02:16:16,600 --> 02:16:20,439 everything, we doubt, but that's good because it keeps us both on our 1478 02:16:20,479 --> 02:16:24,520 toes right, right, you can play off of each other and then get 1479 02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:31,119 a bigger right we need that, I guess. Or one last thing, 1480 02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:35,440 This was the second part of that question you mentioned, like twenty minutes you 1481 02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:41,000 know, things went are have you found in your experiences here your UM document 1482 02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:43,719 experiences that these things happen seemingly in waves? In other words, you can 1483 02:16:43,799 --> 02:16:48,280 be sitting there for an hour, nothing goes on, then everything goes ballistic 1484 02:16:48,399 --> 02:16:50,000 for you know, it could be seconds, could be minutes wherever it is, 1485 02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:56,559 and then it goes away. Yes, yeah, what happened, and 1486 02:16:56,719 --> 02:17:03,600 then it it just dies right back down. This experiment that he was doing 1487 02:17:03,879 --> 02:17:07,959 was for the environment of the house and the property at that time when that 1488 02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:13,719 went that way or okay, okay, I was in both the environment and 1489 02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:20,120 the participants, and the participants were also helping to manifest this in the environment. 1490 02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:26,680 Right, So when it all went um and I say that she's crazy 1491 02:17:26,799 --> 02:17:30,120 just to get a joke, But when it all kind of went awry. 1492 02:17:31,239 --> 02:17:39,760 Um, yeah, it it went awry for a good fifteen twenty minutes. 1493 02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:43,440 Now, we closed that portal. I know we did, because everything went 1494 02:17:43,559 --> 02:17:48,040 back to normal within twenty minutes or so, and there's been nothing else out 1495 02:17:48,079 --> 02:17:54,280 of the normal for the causing house since then. But for fifteen minutes after 1496 02:17:54,600 --> 02:18:01,399 I would say fourteen minutes and I'm down to seconds milsa on my experiments. 1497 02:18:01,520 --> 02:18:07,559 By the way, for fourteen minutes afterwards, things were still not quite right. 1498 02:18:07,639 --> 02:18:11,639 I mean, we were dealing with chandeliers, we were dealing with likes, 1499 02:18:13,239 --> 02:18:16,920 we were dealing with footsteps and women laughing, which, by the way, 1500 02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:22,440 it was ten men in the house. No women were there running. 1501 02:18:24,719 --> 02:18:28,920 God only knows what was above my head as I'm trying to have a team 1502 02:18:30,079 --> 02:18:35,200 meeting and calm everybody down, and They're looking at me with their mouths wide 1503 02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:39,760 open, and I'm like what and they're like, she's above you, and 1504 02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:45,799 I'm like what in the hell? I just need a admitted there. I 1505 02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:48,719 mean, it was bad, it got it got really crazy. Yes, 1506 02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:56,760 I'm trying to make even though I'm I'm scientific, even though that I've calculated 1507 02:18:56,159 --> 02:19:03,319 everything that could be calculated When it gets to that point, it's hard to 1508 02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:09,479 digest what's going on and get your brain to wrap around it and cooperate with 1509 02:19:09,639 --> 02:19:15,600 you. And the human side of us comes out, and the scientific side 1510 02:19:15,639 --> 02:19:18,799 of me was gone. And I'm like, what the hell you mean above 1511 02:19:18,920 --> 02:19:22,159 me? You know? I mean these ceilings, y'all been in there. 1512 02:19:22,520 --> 02:19:26,159 The ceilings are right here. Yeah. And as I turned to look, 1513 02:19:26,319 --> 02:19:31,520 something goes under the doorframe, a white something, and is into the next 1514 02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:35,479 room. And I go running in there and nothing. Now I had seen 1515 02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:41,639 the black mass probably five years earlier, four to five years. I don't 1516 02:19:41,639 --> 02:19:48,319 remember when I was there. When you'll remember when Ghost Adventures filmed the very 1517 02:19:48,399 --> 02:19:54,440 first to the Conjuring House. For Ghost Adventures, that Halloween special. That 1518 02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:58,639 was a live one, right, there was a live Yeah. Nope, 1519 02:19:58,719 --> 02:20:03,639 nope, not a live one. Um, they filmed it for the Halloween 1520 02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:07,000 special. They were the first ones to get into the Condron House. However, 1521 02:20:07,079 --> 02:20:11,840 many years ago. That was my first night in there, um and 1522 02:20:11,959 --> 02:20:16,280 I spent a week there. Then. I had seen the black mass over 1523 02:20:16,399 --> 02:20:22,000 the years, but I've never seen anything white. This was the first night 1524 02:20:22,120 --> 02:20:28,479 I've ever seen anything white. And then it was gone within fifteen fourteen minutes 1525 02:20:28,879 --> 02:20:35,479 after closing the poort atmosphere hadeling after the frequency change. Yeah, the change, 1526 02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:39,040 it's gonna raise, it's gonna lower, gonna go all over the place. 1527 02:20:39,360 --> 02:20:43,159 We don't know what wait, windows or maybe whether frequencies are aligning and 1528 02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:50,399 it maybe it takes a little while for them to despis makes The window for 1529 02:20:50,520 --> 02:20:58,479 the phenomena to the experiment was forty five minutes and thirteen seconds long. So 1530 02:20:58,079 --> 02:21:05,360 in that forty minutes I subjected that house and those participants to a lot of 1531 02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:11,959 frequencies to manifest certain things. So at the end of that forty five minutes, 1532 02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:18,639 yeah, there had been a lot of energy raised and things had changed, 1533 02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:24,399 and then hey girl, how are you? And then right after that 1534 02:21:24,520 --> 02:21:28,319 it just dissipated. That's yeah, interesting, and that's what we see. 1535 02:21:28,319 --> 02:21:31,959 It's like whenever it happens, it's usually a short window. So going back 1536 02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:35,639 to where we started, and I just wanted to I'll say this again. 1537 02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:39,760 It's about the frequencies and vibrations and this is how maybe you guys are able 1538 02:21:39,799 --> 02:21:46,000 to get it aligned better and create that window on demand where the phenomena occurs. 1539 02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:48,239 And then of course things are going to dissipate, and maybe that is 1540 02:21:48,239 --> 02:21:52,040 the closing of the portal and some of those other things that are subjects that 1541 02:21:52,079 --> 02:21:56,360 seem cloudy in people's minds when they hear people like us talk about them. 1542 02:21:56,440 --> 02:22:01,079 You know, I think that's what you're hitting on in it. Well. 1543 02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:07,440 Some of these things, though, takes years in decades to develop on certain 1544 02:22:07,520 --> 02:22:13,120 levels. Yeah, but there is still a way to get from A to 1545 02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:20,719 Z and I'm trying to do I'm giving you a crash course. It's crash 1546 02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:24,600 course. They're gonna go what do they call it the ride? Yes, 1547 02:22:24,959 --> 02:22:28,600 well, my participants they call it the ride. And you have you seen 1548 02:22:28,680 --> 02:22:33,000 that little meme um with um oh, I don't remember that actor's name, 1549 02:22:33,159 --> 02:22:35,959 the comedian, but he's talking about hey man, you got a little more 1550 02:22:35,959 --> 02:22:39,200 of that, you know, And that's what that's. They're like, hey 1551 02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:41,559 man, can I take the ride? Can we do the ride? And 1552 02:22:41,680 --> 02:22:45,200 I'm like, yeah, well we're gonna do it again. They're like, 1553 02:22:45,280 --> 02:22:48,239 hey man, I need to take the ride again. Yeah, And I 1554 02:22:48,440 --> 02:22:52,200 never called it the ride. They call it the ride. They're like, 1555 02:22:52,360 --> 02:22:54,559 I got something to do, I got something to finish. I gotta go 1556 02:22:54,719 --> 02:23:01,719 back. Um. For those that have experienced it. Um. It is 1557 02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:09,639 very very real and very um. I guess it should be so real for 1558 02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:13,520 them, and they just they're like, I'm not done yet. I need 1559 02:23:13,600 --> 02:23:15,799 to go back, and I'm like, well, you can only go back 1560 02:23:16,120 --> 02:23:22,239 so much because it takes months to put one of these experiments together. Months 1561 02:23:22,319 --> 02:23:26,719 to put together a forty five minute experiment. And you take care of the 1562 02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:31,760 years between him and the years between I how many years we have combined with 1563 02:23:31,239 --> 02:23:41,319 even justin that's yeah, we got on those two hundred years. We got 1564 02:23:41,399 --> 02:23:48,680 it. We design this stuff. Oh, it takes Yeah, it's you 1565 02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:56,600 can talk all night, but I've got to feed my chihuahua and I have 1566 02:23:56,760 --> 02:24:01,840 to pee. This has been wonderful. We've been really love to having you, 1567 02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:05,040 guys, would love to have you. We can definitely get into some 1568 02:24:05,159 --> 02:24:09,840 more stuff. Yeah. Absolutely, fantastic conversation. Alrighty and loved it. 1569 02:24:09,959 --> 02:24:13,959 We loved it. Yes, and thank you so much. We look forward 1570 02:24:13,959 --> 02:24:18,840 to hearing more about the DC projects and yourselves individually and what you're working on. 1571 02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:22,079 Fantastic. Thank you, guys. Yes, thank you so much to 1572 02:24:22,159 --> 02:24:26,120 have me on. I appreciate it. Yeah, thanks guys, see you 1573 02:24:26,280 --> 02:24:33,200 later. Thank you. Oh sorry uh, we'll be right with you. 1574 02:24:33,319 --> 02:24:35,159 Thank you, guys, Thank you, guys. To you next Thursday. 1575 02:24:37,159 --> 02:24:39,639 Great show. Love these guys, love you all and the audience. Thank 1576 02:24:39,639 --> 02:24:41,440 you, Thank you again