WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:27.359 KFI AM sixty's later with Mokela were lived everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Hopefully 2 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:31.480 you had a wonderful weekend. I had a wonderful weekend. Met some CAFI 3 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:36.560 listeners at the Wiggle Waggle Walk and Run. It was great being able to 4 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:39.240 sit out there with you. In fact, I was out there with Kenna 5 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:44.960 and her fiance and Alaska, their dog. My dog tried to attack Alaska, 6 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.320 even though my dog, Vincent, was only one fifth the size of 7 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:50.679 Alaska. But you know, that's how we get down. It's okay. 8 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:55.520 Alaska's friendly to all dogs. Even though no I said my dog was the 9 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.079 aggressor, I admit that I owned it. He embarrassed me in the moments, 10 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:00.640 like look, don't it bears me dog? And that's the one that's 11 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.920 hyper right. No, No, that's the older, more calm one. 12 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:08.200 But for some reason, I don't know, maybe Alaska looked at him the 13 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:11.680 wrong way or something. It's the blue eye maybe, yeah, the singular 14 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:17.120 blue eye blue eye, like who you looking at. But it was a 15 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:21.000 good day. Was nice being able to meet all of you. But now 16 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.840 we're back and unfortunately the real world is getting in the way there's a lot 17 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.640 of heavy news which is going on right now. We have to make sure 18 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:32.000 that you are aware of If you were listening to Tim Conway Junior in the 19 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.760 past hour, you know that he was following and passed to baton to me. 20 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.400 We're following the story of the La County Sheriff's deputy who was shot in 21 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:44.359 the back today while waiting at a West covinat intersection. The shooting happened at 22 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:48.439 about two forty five pm and West Covina at the intersection of North Baranka Avenue 23 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:53.239 and East Garvey Avenue South. The good news is the deputy, a nearly 24 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.799 twenty year veteran of the department, Deputy Acepureau, was treated at a nearby 25 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:04.400 hospital and he is in stable condition. It looks that everything is going to 26 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.280 be okay at this time. But it was an unprovoked attack. It was 27 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:13.599 a shot in the back. They are looking for the assailant. A witnesses 28 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:17.960 told investigators that there is possibly a vehicle of interest, a white sedan with 29 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:24.199 tinted windows that was last seen driving westbound on the Interstate ten at from Baranka 30 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:29.000 Street. I know that's not a lot of information, but that is all 31 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:36.360 which has been released to the general public. Sheriff Luna recently had a press 32 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:40.520 conference surprising us of this information and also the deputy's status. If there is 33 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:45.159 more information which should come in, we'll make sure that you do have that, 34 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:47.639 so do not feel that you are missing any part of that story. 35 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:53.280 We are continuing to follow it in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom and we 36 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:58.560 will have consistent updates throughout the evening. But there's also something else. I 37 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.520 was bumping around the internet, as I usually do early in the day, 38 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:07.560 and I say this with all seriousness. Sometimes I make predictions. Sometimes I 39 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:10.719 may talk about the things that I'm very concerned about, and I don't want 40 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:16.280 to be right, but the available information suggests that I'm more likely right than 41 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:20.840 not. Last week I went on a rant and I said, I've run 42 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:22.960 out of things to say. I don't know what to say. We've had 43 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.919 three different metro bus attacks within the space of a week, and I was 44 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:34.919 out of words to say to express the amount of danger I perceived on La 45 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.080 Metro. I wasn't trying to be hyperbolic. I wasn't trying to be sensational. 46 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:40.960 I wasn't trying to be emotional and over the top. I was trying 47 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:46.919 to be fact based and dispassionate. I could not, in good conscience recommend 48 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:53.680 anyone that I cared about, family member, friend, colleague getting on the 49 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:59.919 Metro because I think that it's fundamentally dangerous. Not dangerous in the sense of, 50 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:01.400 well, you could be anywhere anytime and get hit by a bus type 51 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:08.199 dangerous. We're not talking about random acts of bad luck. We're talking about 52 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:14.280 a place which is more conducive to crime and something bad happening to you. 53 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:17.079 And then Tim Conway Junior sent me the story. I had already seen it 54 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.959 at that point, but of course by now you know of the woman who 55 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:27.519 was stabbed early this morning on a Metro subway train in her neck before exiting 56 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.800 in Studio City. She has since died of her injuries at a local hospital. 57 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.800 I've told you more times than not that I rode the Metro. When 58 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:42.759 I did, I would get on the Blue Line in Long Beach and I'll 59 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.199 get on maybe six thirty in the morning, and it would take me all 60 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.959 the way to the Universal City stop. I know exactly what that stop is 61 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:55.439 like because I wrote it every single day, and that's where I exited, 62 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.800 and then I'll get off a Universal City and get the one fifty eight bus 63 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.120 and it would take me not too far from Hollywood Way, and I'd walk 64 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:05.279 the rest of way to my job. I know exactly what that is like. 65 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:13.480 If you know this story. The woman unfortunately got on in North Hollywood. 66 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.920 North Hollywood is only one station away. She was only on the train 67 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:24.399 for at most three four minutes, because that's the distance in between the stations. 68 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:30.279 She was attacked on the train. From publish reports, that means she 69 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:40.000 was attacked almost instantaneously upon getting on the actual train. I don't know if 70 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:44.000 the story would have ended differently if there was an actual police presence on the 71 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:49.519 train. I suspect that it most likely would have. And you have to 72 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:53.279 wonder at this point. I know that if you listen to the mayor's State 73 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:57.600 of the City address, she'd made commentary to the fact that the trains are 74 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:03.920 safe and they're improving. Well, that's factually untrue, and people, not 75 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:10.360 just me, are beginning to understand that it's genuinely unsafe. Now. The 76 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.839 station is a busy one with commuters and tourists who come here to Universal City, 77 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:16.720 and it's the Bline trains which run from North Hollywood to downtown Los Angeles 78 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.639 and Union Station. We spoke to people today who are very concerned about safety. 79 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.639 Is what we know is the attack occurred on the train somewhere between the 80 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:30.360 last stop and here at Universal City Station. She then is able to exit 81 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.720 and the suspect. Suspect exits as well, but the attack does occur on 82 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:38.959 the train. I'm a little bit afraid, and you're here. It on 83 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:44.959 the news that something can happen, but it's surprising that it happens on our 84 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.439 first day. The station is closed because of such a thing. I never 85 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.279 feel safe on the chain. You have to stay very vigilant, be aware 86 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:56.680 of your surroundings because there's always some sort of chaos going on. Three incidents 87 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:00.000 last week on metro buses. We have one start off this week on a 88 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:08.759 metro train. This unfortunately ended in the murder of a woman in another unprovoked 89 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:13.319 attack. Of course, as things happen on Metro, we will make sure 90 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:16.160 that you're made aware of them, because I think an informed populace is most 91 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:20.279 important, and also if you're just tuning in, we are continuing to follow 92 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:24.879 the story of the La County deputy who was shot in the back while waiting 93 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:30.120 at a West Covina intersection. He is presently in stable condition at a nearby 94 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.600 hospital, and we'll have more. If you have any information about a white 95 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:40.680 sedan with tinted windows that was last seen driving westbound on it from Baranca Street 96 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:46.240 in and around that time, please make sure that you inform the local authorities 97 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.480 regarding that. It's later with mo Kelly when we come back, we're going 98 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:54.040 to talk about the protests going on around the country at various universities, including 99 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.199 USC, just over this past weekend. And like I said, I don't 100 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:00.920 like to be right about some things. But when we discuss last week, 101 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.759 and we said that at least in defense of the university, the university didn't 102 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:11.160 necessarily know where the story was going to head, what other variables there were 103 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:13.800 going to be in the equation, whether the situation was going to escalate in 104 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.000 the Middle East. Well, all of that has happened. Now, all 105 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:24.800 of that, and now there is a rising element of not only anti Semitism, 106 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:39.519 but protests and arrests around the country. Wimbo Kelly one six. We're 107 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.840 live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app And if you just tune in. We are 108 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.879 continuing to follow the story of the La County deputy who was shot in the 109 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:50.600 back while waiting at a West Covina intersection. He is in stable condition at 110 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:54.919 a nearby hospital. The search continues for the assailant, who was thought to 111 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:00.519 be in a white sedan with tinted windows, was last seen driving westbound on 112 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:05.399 the I ten from Barncas Street earlier today. Obviously that why Sadan probably is 113 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:09.039 not in that location now, but as updated information comes in, we'll make 114 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.559 sure that you do have that. Just know that the KFI newsroom is on 115 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:18.039 that story and we are following it. And we recently had a press conference 116 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:24.399 update from Sheriff Robert Luna that was around six o'clock this evening. We don't 117 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.200 anticipate another press conference, but if there should be one, we will bring 118 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:33.320 that to you live. And something else which is going on locally of great 119 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:39.399 interests. We've discussed what's been happening at USC, the protests which have been 120 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:43.360 ongoing. In fact, they were continuing over the weekend. The protesters were 121 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:48.559 marching in support of the twenty twenty four valedictorian Osna to Boston. That's just 122 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.240 one of many college protests going on around the country, some of the ones 123 00:09:54.279 --> 00:10:01.360 which have garnered more headlines are the ones at Columbia and Yale, both universities. 124 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.120 Law enforcement has had to intervene, and there have been arrests of students 125 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.440 who are protesting. And let me just make a brief comparison I said long 126 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.559 ago, not in regard to this, but I'll say during the Black Lives 127 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.440 Matter movement, you have to be very careful about who you may allow to 128 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:22.480 speak on your behalf and who may become part of your protest, because it 129 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:28.600 makes it very easy for forces outside and I would say people with a minority 130 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:35.879 view hijack the message of your movement, of your protest, and then your 131 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:41.679 protest is perceived completely differently from maybe how you originally intended it. Now, 132 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.399 I'm quite sure that the majority of people who are protesting, I don't know 133 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.519 this for a fact, but I believe this. I don't have any data 134 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.840 to support it, but I firmly believe that the majority of people who are 135 00:10:52.919 --> 00:11:01.399 protesting at USC are connected to the Valedictorian issue, and a smaller component of 136 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:07.120 that is about the wider Israel Palestine issue. But when you go to Colombia 137 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.559 and Yale. I believe the predominant number of protesters are probably in support of 138 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.559 Palestine, not pro Hamas. I think there's a distinction which must be made 139 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.759 and should be made. They're not the same thing. Supporting Palestine in a 140 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.720 two state solution is not the same thing as supporting Hamas and what happened on 141 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:31.159 October seventh. But there is a rising number of voices that you're hearing in 142 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:37.159 interviews and then the protests which are blurring that distinction, and it makes it 143 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.480 more difficult for the people who have a legitimate issue to raise to be heard 144 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:56.159 and be heard clearly. Confrontation at Columbia police removing protesters from campus citing extraordinary 145 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:01.480 circumstances. Columbia University President Manu Shaffik called in the NYPD to clear an encampment 146 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:07.960 of pro Palestinian student demonstrators. The encampment set up Wednesday morning, the same 147 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:13.200 day Shaffique testified on Capitol Hill about anti Semitism on campus. We must uphold 148 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.279 freedom of speech because it's essential to our academic mission, but we cannot and 149 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:22.440 shouldn't tolerate abuse of this privilege to harass and discriminate. In a letter to 150 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.519 the university community, Schaffique noted protests have a storied history at Columbia, where 151 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:31.679 anti Vietnam demonstrators took over buildings on campus in nineteen sixty eight, but in 152 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.919 asking for help from the police, she said, the encampment and related disruptions 153 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:41.600 pose a clear and present danger to the substantial functioning of the university. We 154 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:46.919 are risking, like our academic standing, just to like to show the administrators 155 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:52.039 that we are not okay with their decisions. Several demonstrators today stomping on an 156 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:58.120 Israeli flag, some students saying they feel unsafe on campus. I feel as 157 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:07.639 though people arekind of weaponizing antisemitism. This is where we are in America right 158 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:09.240 now. And there's something else. I don't know if someone else has said 159 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.519 it, but I'm going to say I know universities are going to bend over 160 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:22.000 backwards and be very careful about these arrests on campus, because the last thing 161 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.320 any of these universities would want is another Kent State situation. If you don't 162 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:30.559 know what that is, go back to nineteen seventy, in which some college 163 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:37.759 students were killed by National guardsmen during anti Vietnam protests. So there's a very 164 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:43.360 precarious nature of how the protests are going to be conducted, how they're going 165 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:48.080 to be handled. And even though students may be arrested, universities are super 166 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:56.360 sensitive to not having an escalation of that nature of that kind. If students 167 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.960 are going to be arrested because they are interfering with classes, the student life, 168 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.840 whe they're threatening other students, that makes perfect sense, but they don't 169 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:09.080 want it to take the next step, which also goes back to the discussion 170 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:16.320 of USC and how USC was concerned about what commencement could turn into. Let's 171 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:22.440 say last week you were firmly on the side of the valedictorian and said she 172 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:26.080 should be able to speak regardless of what's going on in the world, and 173 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.759 we said, wait a minute, there are other concerns here. There are 174 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.639 other variables in the equation which could impact a smooth graduation. If you are 175 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:41.720 a trustee member at USC or the university president and you see what's happening at 176 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:45.279 Yale and you see what's happening at Columbia, can you, and good conscience, 177 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:50.000 proceed as if nothing is going on? Can you proceed as if it's 178 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:56.399 business as usual for commencement again, because we are on an escalating trajectory, 179 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:03.320 we're not on a de escalation trajectory. It is much more agitated today that 180 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:11.200 it was last week. The Middle East is much more complicated and unstable today 181 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:15.960 than it was last week. And until there's an indication that is going to 182 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.080 be moving in the other direction of de escalation and calming of tensions, I 183 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:28.440 would expect all universities, inclusive of USC Columbia and Yale where they had arrests 184 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.440 there today as well as well, I have to assume that they would move 185 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:39.879 in the direction of anticipating further escalation and also in putting measures to further protect 186 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:46.000 students and the campus that comes first. That's more important than anything. And 187 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:50.799 I'm quite sure someone who's on the between the age of eighteen and twenty four 188 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.879 and I remember when I was at Georgetown University, I was much more of 189 00:15:54.919 --> 00:16:00.960 an activist, borderline militant, fight the power all of that. I remember 190 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.519 the person that I was, and I was a little bit too naive to 191 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.360 see the bigger picture of the world. It was just for me. It 192 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:11.080 was right and wrong, black and white. There was no gray in between. 193 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.399 It was all of this or none of that, no nuance. That's 194 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.440 how I thought as a twenty one year old, twenty year old, and 195 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.080 then you get older and you realize that the world is far more complicated than 196 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:27.480 that, far more complicated, and about much more than a singular speech by 197 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:33.840 a singular student at one university. And how you may think that that's the 198 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:38.360 most important thing in the world, it isn't not when you combine all the 199 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:44.399 factors involved. It's Later with Moe Kelly kiff I AM six forty Live everywhere 200 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:51.279 on the iHeartRadio app. We're continued to follow the story of the sheriff's deputy 201 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:55.600 who was unfortunately shot in the back in West Covina earlier today. As more 202 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.720 information does come in, we'll make sure that you do have that, But 203 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:00.480 if you're just tuning in, we want to make sure you know that we 204 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.599 are on that story and we are continuing to follow it. You're listening to 205 00:17:03.880 --> 00:17:08.839 Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six fortying. We're continuing to 206 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:15.119 follow the ongoing story the La County Deputy motorcycle deputy who was shot in the 207 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.519 back while waiting at a stoplight at a West Covina Intersection. He is in 208 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:23.279 stable condition at this time, but the Sheriff's department is asking for our collective 209 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:29.240 assistance. Witnesses told investigators that there is possibly a vehicle of interest, a 210 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:33.640 white sedan with tinted windows, that was last seen driving westbound on it from 211 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:38.480 Baranca Street. This was around two forty five pm earlier today, but it 212 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.000 gives us some information to follow. If you should see something, definitely say 213 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:47.960 something. Contact local law enforcement. If you should see something which you may 214 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.720 feel or know something which may be helpful in helping bring this person to justice. 215 00:17:53.440 --> 00:18:00.119 Also, another continuing theme on this show is the idea or issue of 216 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:04.799 privacy. I have long said, and embarrassed mentioning again. I believe privacy 217 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:10.200 is an illusion. It's something that we think we have, It's something we 218 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:14.720 believe is important. It's something that we would like to tell ourselves that we 219 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:18.079 have, but I don't actually think we have it, especially when you go 220 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:22.119 out in public. And I understand that we don't have a constitutional right to 221 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:27.119 the expectation of privacy in public settings, but at the same time, you 222 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:36.960 would like to believe or think that private cameras aren't being used in the sense 223 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:42.640 of law enforcement or surveillance. That has been an ongoing debate as far as 224 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:49.839 whether law enforcement could and should use private cameras, security cameras, traffic cameras 225 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:56.319 in the general surveillance of citizens like you and me. But the La City 226 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:02.519 Council is looking to expand the LAPD Survey Len's program, and the City Council 227 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.880 approved the motion seeking to expand this proposed surveillance program that would give LAPD real 228 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:15.920 time access to private and business security cameras. Internal and external law enforcement agencies 229 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:22.519 have created facilities with access to cameras such as automated license plate readers, security 230 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:30.160 cameras at private businesses and residences. Did you hear all that businesses and residences 231 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:37.440 as well as existing Department of Transportation cameras installed at large intersections, and they 232 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:45.920 have put all these facilities and abilities in one particular location. Individuals and business 233 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.960 owners would be required to opt into the program in order to give the LAPD 234 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:56.839 permission to access their live footage. LAPD officials expect to fund the program using 235 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:03.960 moneys from the state to address the ORGANI Retail Theft task Force. Obviously, 236 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:11.960 the belief here is that this type of surveillance will help stop or prevent or 237 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.319 solve smashing grabs, I don't know, But there are two issues here. 238 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:21.440 One whether it would actually do what it is supposedly designed to do. And 239 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.880 how extensive would that surveillance be. Is it something that would only be used 240 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:30.160 in the event of a crime in a particular location, or is it just 241 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.640 general surveillance where they'll be able to watch all the time in the event that 242 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:37.880 something may or might happen. Let me go back to the top. As 243 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:42.039 far as this illusion of privacy, I assume, especially when I'm in public, 244 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:45.519 somebody something is always watching, be it a camera, be it a 245 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:52.640 person, be it someone's ring device. If I'm in my neighborhood, something 246 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:59.880 somebody is always watching. The question here is whether I'm comfortable with being wah 247 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:04.319 watched for something that has nothing to do with me. In other words, 248 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:08.519 am I being watched just because I'm out on the street, or is this 249 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:14.599 video available at all times to law enforcement? We don't necessarily know where it 250 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.680 begins and ends. It makes me uncomfortable, not because I'm out there doing 251 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:23.880 something that I shouldn't, but I don't know how comfortable any would anyone would 252 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:30.000 be if they knew they were just continuously watched all the time. Do you 253 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.359 want to be watched when you're at the bar? Do you want to be 254 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:37.079 watched when you're on your front lawn sunbathing. I'm just saying hypothetically, if, 255 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.279 if all these cameras are connected. But there are all sorts of examples 256 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:48.400 in movies where this idea is discussed. There was the movie with Gene Hackman 257 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:52.759 and Will Smith, Enemy of the State. There was the movie Eagle Eye 258 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:59.839 with Shilah buff They're all sorts of images. There was a TV show Mark, 259 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.640 remember the TV show Person of Interest? Thank you very much. This 260 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:08.920 is not a new idea, it's just now real and it's really happening. 261 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:18.640 And there was a portion in Batman the Dark Knight in which Alfred has access 262 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:25.039 to every cell phone on the Earth and Batman uses it to track down the 263 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:27.359 Joker. Oh that was Lucia's Fox. Jesus Fox. He didn't want any 264 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:30.759 part of that, right, he knew about it, and he walked out 265 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.920 of the room. It's almost as if there is something not so great about 266 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:41.079 living in a total surveillance police state. Almost almost almost. I'm not necessarily 267 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:47.839 sure that it will bring about the desired result as far as smash and grabs, 268 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.160 could it help in an overall crime sense. I don't know. I 269 00:22:52.279 --> 00:23:00.559 don't know. I just know that people overestimate the amount of privacy that they 270 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:07.400 actually have. I think people are not really aware of how all this technology 271 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:14.960 and its connection could have all sorts of unintended consequences. Remember, they were 272 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.799 just debating I think, reauthorization of the Patriot Act and all of that on 273 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.440 Capitol Hill. FISA, FISA, excuse me, PISA. This is all 274 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:29.039 connected. This is all absolutely connected. And if FISA makes you uncomfortable, 275 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.799 and the opaque nature of that where you can have these warrantless searches, what 276 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.319 do you think this is. We're not it's not right next door. No, 277 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:41.960 it's in the same house. Well, I gotta tell you just a 278 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.599 fact check here. Unless you're a foreign spy or working with them, you 279 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.359 really don't need to be worried about PISA. But the fact that every other 280 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:53.200 thing that you do in the real flesh world and online is monitored, that's 281 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:59.000 a thing. Well, you don't have to necessarily worry about PISA, but 282 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:06.079 that information is still being collected and all the like for example, Carter what's 283 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.799 his name? What Carter Page? Carter Page. Yes, I couldn't remember 284 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:14.000 his last name for some reason. Carter Page was the most i'll say, 285 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:18.960 public and obvious example of how PISA can impact someone. The whole thing about 286 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:23.440 PISA is it's not just the person that they're surveilling, it's the person who 287 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:26.839 they may contact, the person who they come into come in contact with, 288 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.880 the person that they may be around. Like for example, I've met Carter 289 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:34.519 Page a couple of times. Don't ask it was a politicon. Okay, 290 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:38.119 it was a politicon. Wow, there's even a picture with him and me 291 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:42.759 on my site, mister Kelly dot com. Your social circles baffling. It's 292 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:45.720 hey, true story. You go to mister mo kelly dot com. There's 293 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.200 a picture of me and Carter Page. You and Carter went out after the 294 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:53.400 comic con and made it rain on some strippers. No, it was politicon 295 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:57.960 and they were self employed models. Okay, sorry, But my point is, 296 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:03.880 Mark Ronner, if somewhere down the road, my name were to come 297 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:12.559 up in a report or a person who interacted with that could be disconcerting, 298 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:19.039 right, That could be concerning, That could be a problem. Not that 299 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:26.680 I'm doing anything as far as international espionage. I'm just saying that we never 300 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:33.519 necessarily know where surveillance begins and ends. That's all. It's Later with mo 301 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.079 Kelly, ca if I AM six forty Live Everywhere True Story Me and Carter 302 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.599 Page romance fellas you know, buddies. Oh, I got to hear the 303 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.880 details of this off the Earth. We're Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app No 304 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.200 True Story. You can go to mister mo Kelly dot com. Look in 305 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.640 the gallery section. There's a picture somewhere of Carter Page and be you're listening 306 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:57.759 to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. And I 307 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:03.119 don't know if you know this, but if you're going to see the cockpit 308 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.680 on a plane, you can do it. If the plane is still at 309 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:11.000 the gate. You know how. You get on the plane and the door 310 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:12.279 will be open. You can see the pilots where they sit. You can 311 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:17.160 see all the controls. When you get on the plane. That's when you'll 312 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:21.599 likely see a kid or someone be invited to the cockpit and then the pilot 313 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.720 or the co pilot will show them where all the different buttons are. Like 314 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:29.400 in the movie airplane, but you can't do it while the plane is in 315 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:34.039 the air, not legally, not for commercial flight, not for a charter 316 00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:38.960 flight. They're both governed by the same FAA rules in that regard. When 317 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.880 I tell you that two pilots were suspended after allowing a passenger in the cockpit 318 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.640 mid flight, you should be shaking your head like I am. The FAA 319 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:55.119 is investigating this unauthorized in flight cockpit visit by a coach for the Colorado Rockies. 320 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.880 It was on the Colorado Rockies team plane during what's called a United Airlines 321 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:06.480 charter flight last week from Denver to Toronto. If you didn't know that that 322 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.680 it was dumb to do it, it was even dumber to tape it, 323 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.240 because when you tape anything, the video is going to eventually get out. 324 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:21.079 The pilots at the very minimum should have known that that pop doing it was 325 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:26.039 dumb. Taping it was dumber, and then you're putting not only your own 326 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.839 jobs in jeopardy and obviously the safety of everyone in jeopardy. But you should 327 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.400 have known that this is how the story was going to end. Because video 328 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.880 surface earlier this week, I should say late last week that appears to show 329 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:42.480 Rocky's hitting coach Hensley Mulins, sitting in a pilot's seat while the April tenth 330 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:47.960 flight was at cruising altitude about thirty five thousand feet. As I said, 331 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.480 it's against FAA regulations for unauthorized people to be on the flight deck. He 332 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.920 could be seen and heard on the video joking with other people in the cockpit, 333 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:02.519 including a person in a pilots and at least one other person who does 334 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:07.359 not appear to be an airline employee. So there was like more than one 335 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:12.279 person hanging out in the cockpit. And just in case you were unclear about 336 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:18.319 where the law begins and ends regarding FAA procedures, there's this. So we 337 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.480 know this is a clear violation of safety rules. How does something like this 338 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.799 happen? Well, it is a clear violation not only of United Airlives rules, 339 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:30.119 but of what we call the FAAR Federal Air regulations that prohibit any or 340 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.480 unauthorized person in the cockpit during the flight. In fact, once that cabin 341 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.559 door is closed and the gate pushes back, no one can get up there. 342 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.240 In fact, that door is locked and can't be opened. So bottom 343 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.440 line here is those pilots are in trouble, And basically anybody who wants to 344 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.039 do that can only do that at the permission of the pilot when the plane 345 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.279 is on the ground and nothing is operating. So if you've got your kid 346 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:53.599 with it and he wants to see the cockpit, if you ask permission, 347 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.920 they'll let you in during the actual boarding process, at the discussion of the 348 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.880 pilot, and maybe after the flight. But once if that main door is 349 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.680 closed, that's off limits until the plane is finished and at the gate. 350 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.880 I want to reiterate to our viewers, this was a charter flight. Airlines 351 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.599 are often hired to operate charter flights for sports, team, celebrities, et 352 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.400 cetera. Do you think there's a spotlighting a possible lacks in regulations that we 353 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.839 don't see in commercial flights. Well, of course there is a looser atmosphere 354 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.680 on a charter flight vieus. The presumption is you're in control of the plane 355 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.279 because you paid for it, right. But you know what, the federal 356 00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:29.240 air regulations don't discriminate between a charter and a regular flight if it's operated by 357 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.200 a commercial carrier. The rules apply to everybody, and that's why those two 358 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.559 pilots have it essentially withheld from service spending this investigation. How do you not 359 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:42.000 know any better as pilots. I understand that people make mistakes, but this 360 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:47.559 is not a mistake. You should know in this post nine to eleven world 361 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:55.440 that you just can't let people into the cockpit mid flight. You can't do 362 00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.279 it. And then you're going to let someone or some one sore, maybe 363 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.720 more than one vide there actually tape it, because we all know when they 364 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.880 videotape something, it's going to be sent via a text message, it's going 365 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:10.480 to be posted on social media, it's going to be shared, it's going 366 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:15.200 to go beyond just the people involved. We share everything these days. We 367 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.400 can't keep any secrets. Of course, it was going to get out, 368 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.599 and then, of course someone with a reasonable level of common sense would have 369 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.039 realized, you can't do that. It's against the law. You can't do 370 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.400 that. Ever, it's post nine to eleven. You cannot go into the 371 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.519 cockpit in the middle of a flight for shits and giggles and just hang out 372 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.359 and take pictures. And there were a couple of other stories of pilots getting 373 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.559 reprimanded and suspended for letting, like models and Instagram models sit in the cockpit. 374 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.759 It's like, you know, everyone, I'm not even a pilot, 375 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:49.960 Okay, I've never had a flying lesson in my life, and even I 376 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.839 know that you just can't let people in the cockpit in the middle of the 377 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.279 fight. You can't do it. Can't do it. Can If I Am 378 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.920 six forty were live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. Do you think we've got 379 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.119 all the answers, Well, we've got news for you, chief. No, 380 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:08.480 seriously, we've got news right now. Kf I, KOST HD two 381 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.519 Los Angeles, Orange County, live everywhere on the radio.