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Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly video game show

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here at geek First, and today
we are talking all about x Men.

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We're gonna do an x Men Legends
three fantasy draft. I'm your host,

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Del Musnig with me the clown Prince
of Mutants, Travis snow Man, and

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yes, I'm so excited. It's
such a good time. We got Diplereen,

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we got the x Men ninety seven
talking about some x Men games.

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We talked about X Men games a
couple of months ago with those leaks,

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so it's just a good time to
be an X Men fan. I feel

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like we were and we had to
suffer some walls. But I'm very excited

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for this cast and hopefully someone in
the ether hears. He's like, that'd

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be a good idea for us to
do so, just like they did with

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Marble Lions happened once before. Yes
we can do it, and then we

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also have the dreamcast. Kirklm Patzer, how's it going with my friend?

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Going very good? I'm very happy
anytime we can talk about X Men,

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and it's just, yeah, it's
exciting. I've never played X Men Legends,

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so going into that pretty blind.
I've seen you guys do it on

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the twenty four hour stream, but
I feel like it was probably in the

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two AM slots, so it all
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But yeah, I thought we had
tech issues and we never got to do

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it. I think that's what I
feel like he did, like a couple

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of patrollers. But maybe we booted
it up. I can't remember, are

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you not. Maybe I'm thinking of, yeah, that's okay, there you

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go. I'm completely blind on X
Men legends. Then. I think that's

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our goal this year is to make
sure that we have some excellent legends time

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for sure. Because it was so
late in the night that I just I

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thought it was I thought I was
seeing X Men. I thought I was

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seeing uh, Wolverine. That looks
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Yeah, I mean, guys,
we haven't talked about this, but

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is March officially x Men month?
With the show coming out, We're doing

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all sorts of drafts and fantasy things
March and April, both them Rexes.

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We'll have two x Men months in
a row, yeah, because it goes

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in April and then we're doing a
second fan cast draft in April as well.

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So yeah, I think March and
April the month of x So there

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you go. For any X Men
fans, this is the time to subscribe.

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Join our channel and definitely joined the
Patreon episodes early in ad freakause a

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lot of these drafts will probably be
recorded a couple of weeks or days in

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advance, you can well. And
some of those are exclusive too, so

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look out for that. There you
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But yeah, we're doing this in
honor of X Men ninety seven coming

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out later this month, So this
episode is a little bit early, but

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once again we want to get a
head start on the X Men month.

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Here other things on the feed,
we're doing the weekly Halo reviews. Check

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that out. We just reviewed Dune, which is doing really well so far.

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Thank you everyone for listening to that. And you know, we got

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news and Travis told using all the
all the other classic weekly stuff going on

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March fifteenth. For there you go, March fifteenth. Where people go for

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that? Where do they what do
they do? I'm this spreek, but

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Patron has this. Yeah, there'll
be links everywhere, but Patreon I think

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they have. I got to test
up the file size. If not,

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it's going to be like, uh, I forgot the name of it,

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but they have these new thing now
where you can sell just specific pieces,

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so not like if you don't want
all the episodes, you could put out

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one episode. So that's why I
think this is going to be where it's

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going to be a separate thing,
not for subscription and just you can do

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it, but there it'll be all
your usual places where you can find our

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stuff. So okay, sounds good. Uh yeah. So, so,

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like I said, we are doing
today's it's a one topic kind of day.

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We're going all in on x Men
Legends. So for anyone doesn't know

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what x Men Legends is, this
is a series of two games that came

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out or I guess two games with
different versions, so I guess there's gold

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be of more out there, but
two games that came out in early two

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thousands, and these are essentially just
the same as your Marvel Ultimate Alliance,

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as your Justice League game that we
were just talking about there, where it's

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like a top down kind of beat
them up sort of game where you're unlocking

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a huge roster of characters, getting
combo moves, going through a very goofy

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story. And yeah, so these
games came out sometime in the early two

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thousands. We haven't seen one since, and as Travis was saying with with

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Marvel Ultimate Alliance, we did various
casts on that as well. We did

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like Fantasy Draft Roster, we covered
all the trailers and stuff. But when

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we did those fantasy drafts, we
like, I feel like we did manifest

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the game somewhat because we did those
before there was ever an announcement, and

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then the game got announced and we
covered all of it all the DLC,

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and so this is gonna be kind
of similar to that, and we're hoping

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that this also manifests an X Men
Legends three. But yeah, as Kirkla

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was saying, he's never played this
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bit because I bought them recently.
So they're not even like nostalgia games for

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me, but I picked them up
recently. I'd used game store. Travis,

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have you I forget if you've played
these games before. I only rented,

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Yeah, rented, and I don't
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like I just bought Marvel Alliance because
that was like the oh, well,

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get everybody here, right, even
though x Me's my favorite franchise as far

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as Marvel stuff, I think that
was just also the one that my friends

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would have too, so it was
easy like, oh, I want to

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have my own copy and stuff.
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it enough. But yeah, definitely
Ultimate Alliance got there more. But yeah,

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I'd very much like another one of
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so which X Men stuff come back? So yeah, what do you

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guys think the likelihood of a third
game in the series happening would be?

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Considering that we got Ultimate Alliance,
and you know, I think it's sold

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decently considering that it was a console
exclusive on the switch over there, who

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knows how much it would have sold. But I also probably think it was

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a lower budget game than when you
think of like a Marvel's Avengers or maybe

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even a Midnight Suns or something like
that. But what do you guys think

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the chances are of them doing an
X Men Legends three? And I don't

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even know where the IP or ownership
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I guess it was like activisions that
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really know how that works, But
what do you guys think you can see

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it happening? I could definitely see
the likely potential of an X Men's Legend

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game, but I think the overall
idea of like an x Men centric game,

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even if it's not x Men Legends, is actually quite possible, just

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because we're really entering into that phase
of the MCU of having mutants as well

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as I mean ninety seven's back,
Like, I just feel like there's a

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lot of actual focus on the X
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a part of like Ultimate Alliance,
for example, because there is mutants in

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that game. But I feel like
there could be something like great potential with

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just furthering on this ip specifically,
but also maybe uh, maybe not X

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Men's Legends, but like still that
top down gameplay feel maybe make it somehow

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unique in the sense that it doesn't
just feel like an Ultimate Alliance clone or

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something like that. But I would
actually be surprised if we didn't get some

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sort of focus on that game like
that, even if it isn't X Men

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Legends. I think that would be
really hype, similar hype to how Ultimate

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Alliance three had when that announcement came, especially just because like I've never played

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this this this title, but always
found it interesting and wanted to get my

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hands on. It's big bummer we
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But it'll happen. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough because I think for

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me, it all depends on what
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rumored about now. And I say
that just because like a'pick oh it's Insomniac.

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Well, if you look at those
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like what they're making off these games, it is not like a ton of

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money now that we thought about right
when Disney gets like yeah, their fees

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and everything. So just because that's
the plan doesn't mean it's for sure gonna

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happen. So I think I'm more
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like when the X Men are really
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pop off. That could be in
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there's a time. I don't know
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like it could be a similar thing, but it'd get a rebranding. I

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would love it if ninety seven blew
up and they did a version of this

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game, but with ninety seven ascetic
and characters, that would be like,

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I think that'd be really cool.
So I think there's something like this because

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now The Alliance got its third I
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you got that trending tweet or something
of like, oh, games that deserve

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a sequel, And that comes up
a lot more now than it used to.

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I think just because everyone thought,
oh, ALTI line is three,

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that's more likely, and now that
we got that, it's like, okay,

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well this is another pie in the
sky. Wouldn't this be great?

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So I think with each year,
as long as ninety seven other X ME

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and stuff Wolverine, it starts to
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Like said, I don't know if
they call X Men Legends, they might

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rebrand it, but you know,
I guess it also depends what Disney feels

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about Ultimate Alliance, Right do they
view oh, yeah, it was one

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console that's happy, or did they
look ah, this Platt like this type

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of gaming genre is not us.
Like it for us. So I think

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I right now have my mindset on
is probably not happening, but I'm always

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hopeful and I would like to see
even something newer happened, if it's like,

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uh, an amalgamation of this,
you know, mm hmm. Yeah,

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I could probably see it more happening
a few years down the road,

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as you guys said, just when
X Men is maybe bigger than it is

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right now, specifically because Exmen ninety
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gonna be an audience for that,
but it's not gonna like blow up in

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the way that like a mar like
the Avengers movies did or anything quite like

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that. So maybe when when they're
in the MCU, we could see a

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resurgence like that, and hopefully Insomniac
still does go on to make those things.

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It's unfortunate that Insomniac is is one
the studios affected by the PlayStation layoffs

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in this last week, So I
hope that wouldn't ripple down to them not

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making X Men something like that getting
canceled and just focusing on Spider Man because

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they know it works. That would
be really, really sad. But yeah,

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I hope we see it. And
you know, honestly, I feel

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like Team Ninja who made Marvel Ultimate
Alliance three, I think they kind of

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nailed it for what that game should
be like they obviously had a huge roster,

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such iconic locations, they had,
like some weird deep cut characters.

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They had like the Street level,
the Avengers, they had a ton x

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Men in there. Like they had
great, a great roster and a lot

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to do in that game, and
then the DLC just added more and more

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content to it. I really think
the main thing I want from it is

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just like the game not to be
locked to the Switch. I just wanted

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to be on other consoles where it
can be a bit more powerful, or

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even just to switch sequel so it
can have a better frame rate and have

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more like detail and just look a
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But honestly, like I think that
I love that game. I mean

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we did the twenty four hour stream
when the game came out. I have

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like over two hundred hours in that
game. I fucking love it so much.

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So I think they nailed it.
And yes, you could make some

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improvements here or there, but I
think with an x Men roster too,

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I imagine that would be a bit
tight, and so you could hopefully spend

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some development time on honing certain mechanics, making things better, doing more costumes,

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than Ultimate Ninth three did. But
yeah, I would be totally down

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for Team Ninja to take on this
trip, this third game if if it

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were to happen. Absolutely, I
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If anything, it's like, oh, you could do something here a little

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different, but nothing like a big
con of all. This was almost great,

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but they did X, Y,
and Z. You know, it's

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I don't really have that. And
that's always a big question for me because

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I still get that for people that
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oh I would have bought that,
I would have loved to have that.

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I hope it comes over. That
to me is a big question. I

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would have loved to see what that
would have done on all three consoles sales

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together. I'm not saying, oh, it would have been Inspire my numbers

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or biggest game, but I feel
like there's a lot of nostalgia people that

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didn't get to make that plunge because
for whatever reason, they don't have to

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switch. If they're not a tender
person, if they're on a budget,

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if they are you know, if
they don't want their kids to have it.

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As far as just like hey,
they do you pick one console.

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This is it, so yeah,
i'd be curious. But Team Ninja,

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that'd be a perfect scenario marriage there, so mm hmm, yeah, definitely.

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So what we're gonna do here is
we're going to make a roster of

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thirty six playable characters in this game. For reference. I always like to

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pick my numbers based on like some
other point of reference, and for this

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it's Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Think
about that roster we played that game.

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They're thirty six characters. Technically just
thirty five characters and then like the random

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icon to make it like a nice
even box, but thirty six characters overall

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in that game. So that's the
kind of roster we're going for here.

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The first X Men Legends game I
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around that number as well, so
it's about a similar amount there. And

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then Ultimate Nights three when you get
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was like fifty something like there was
a lot of characters. Thirty six good.

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Yeah, so we're going we're going
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going higher than the first season ninety
seven. We're doing nine plus the two

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dealc pyps. I think a pretty
knowledgeable X Men stuff. But yeah,

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I think coming up with ninety seven
would be pretty uh pretty freaking leeches make

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it into the Rosy Rome Baker.
Yeah, some crazy characters. So yeah,

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I think maybe what we'll start with
here is uh and we're also maybe

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talking about some locations or levels you
want to see villains, all the NPC

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characters, Like, we'll talk about
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kind of just build the roster by
like if the characters of Lock will put

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him in the Lock category, or
if they're just if we want to think

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about them, we'll put them into
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and then when we have all those
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who's gonna make it into that final
that final list. So let's start by

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just reading through so that the roster
of the first game consisted of Beast CLASSUS

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Cyclops, Emma Frost, Gambit,
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Nightcrawler, Professor X, Silock,
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So I feel like the most shocking
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me, honestly, I think he
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like one level. It was like
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I think it is very limited.
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often Venom is used in Spider Man
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like you kind of do them for
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is wacky picked the throw in there. Yeah, I was gonna say,

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show the lego Marvel where you could
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they want more female characters, which
is fine, but that's all Like there's

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tons of other very popular female X
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list? Or are you gonna ask
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those making it? Because I feel
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majority of those are all locked.
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locked Charles because people would I'd want
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a telgonesis right. So we've seen
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that wand and stuff, So I
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I think I'm a magma that that's
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this game. Yeah, I mostly, I think I almost completely agree with

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you here. There's a couple,
uh most of them are just like complete

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locks, and there's a couple weird
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like Jubilee X Men Legends one that
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in any of these gmes. She
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an Ultimate Alliance one, two or
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never playable in any of these games
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yeah, some of them are in
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them are only maybe make one appearance, So I don't I just kind of

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want to do this just to set
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Yeah, and this can help set
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I'm not saying that we're locking any
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just just throwing it out there.
Cross was surprising for me on that

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list as well. But like,
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and like it seems very translatable to
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she's with was in this game,
I think she would be a great inclusion

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into a thirty six man roster.
Basically everyone else. I think Professor Ex's

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still have for me to picture.
I just picked like just doing circles in

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the little chair or something. Yeah, I think he'd be You gotta make

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him really ope, hit box real
low, like you can die quick,

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but hit box real big. But
he is like always has his finish ready

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to go, you know, his
ultimate X. Here's the roster for X

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Men Legends too, so now that
I'm looking at actually is quite a bit

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bigger in terms of numbers. You
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Iceman, Jean Gray, Nightcrawler,
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then here are the characters that weren't. Those are all characters that were in

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one. Here's some new ones.
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Witch, Sunfire, Toad, Cable, cannon Ball, Dark Phoenix, X

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this game for some reason, and
Deadpool to close out the list. That's

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a really good roster actually with iron
Man. But that's a fun, different,

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unique roster there. But uh,
I like having some freak characters in

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there like that are just real deep
cuts. I think we should try and

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have a couple of those, one
or two in our roster of just completely

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off the wall sort of picks.
Oh well, there's definitely one. I'll

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be fighting for him. He's on
our photos here. But come on,

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now, you know so Travis an
x Man, do you know who that

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character is? I think he's somebody. Yeah, I've seen him on I

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remember he was a comic I had
at my grandma's that I didn't like.

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He's somebody that they are trying to
make saying. I think he's somebody's kid,

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maybe eight gray Gray. Yeah.
I think they renamed him later on

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because I think it's kind of like
the Captain Marvel thing where it's like born

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of genetic splicing with mister Sinister involved
in this character. I wonder one before

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learn any more about him in the
coming months, I wonder. But that's

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what it was, just his name
for a bid and then they dropped that

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the same I can't remember Jean Gray
has a child later on too that it

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has some sort of weird name.
It's not like like miss x Men,

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but it's something where it's like really
like you want you want to be the

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lead character. So I that must
have just been to the story. That's

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definitely if I'm showing my card is
not anyone I would include here. I

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don't think there's many kid characters,
not kid age meaning kid that descendants of

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other mutes I would include unless you
would count one certain clone which we can

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talk about later, but m hm
so. And then looking at Ultimate Alliance.

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Also for the characters that were in
those games, there aren't any like

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X Men specific characters that only appeared
in those games are not an x Men

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legend. So I found that interesting
when I was going through here, there

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are how many characters? Let me
see one, two, three? There

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are five characters who are and both
X Men Legends games and all three Ultimate

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Alliance games. Who do you guys
think those are? Because those are those

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I mean those I gotta be just
solid locks on the list immediately, right

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Nightcrawler, No, oh, okay, you would put Nightcrawler in the top

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five, huh, just for playable. I feel like his move said like

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the first time I played Ultimate Alliance, I just felt like that was that

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was the guy that I wanted to
be bamffing around in. But I mean

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Wolverine. I guess Wolverine's one of
them. Absolutely. And did you say

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marvel A Lions one and two or
marl Lions one, two and three?

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All? Yeah, all three of
them and both X Men Legends games.

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I got three. I know it
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I'm that's the other two that I'm
having a tough time because I know cla

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Deadpool. Deadpool is not in the
first X Men Legends game. Oh right

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next with Legends, okay, mcause
I know Gambit my boy one of my

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favorite fucking players, and Marvel Lions
two is not this Okay, So Storm

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and Wolverine clops and it wasn't one, but he wasn't both of them,

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Jean Gray, I finish she was
in Marvelance two. She was not in

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Ultimatelyiance one. That's she's not.
And there's also like like some like in

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Ultimate Liance three her name is Phoenix. Yeah, I think some games,

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she's Jean Gray and and I think
the same. Yeah, one of them,

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she's Dark Phoenix, So I guess
that would be like slightly different,

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but I think for our purposes we'd
bundle that as one character. Oh man,

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yeah, you'll have to give me
the three because I'm I'm blanking right

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now. Really, it's on who
they could be who. Also, the

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characters I didn't play with. One
of them is the leader of the team

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in ninety seven the new Oh Magneto. Fuck wait, I thought Cyclops was

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the leader. Is Magneto the leader? Oh? I guess Cyclops? Was

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he a DLC? Then in Marvel
Lions two, I don't know. I

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just wrote down that he was in
there some way. I know for Ultimateiance

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there was a lot of like like
the game Boy version had like she Hulk

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or something random, so I think
there was, like there's a lot of

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weird exclusive characters. So maybe the
version you had didn't have a cyclic yea,

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because even Cyclops in the first one
he was DLC as well, not

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exclusive, but he was d'e in
three as well. Actually, so he's

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not always been in the base roster. I suppose, Yeah, he's he's

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in all five, you got Storm
and Wolverine. I think I may be

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overcounted. I think there's actually just
four, so you all only need one

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more. And yeah, it's not
someone you would immediately think of, but

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it's Iceman. Iceman has been all
five of these games. That makes sense.

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I could see them be like we
I don't want a water ice Sky,

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So it does make sense because he's
he's yeah, like, no one

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has a move set quite like him. So even if personality wise he's not

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as engaging or story wise, it's
he's just got a move that you can't

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you can't not have him in the
game. So I think that should be

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like, we should start with those
four. I think we can slap all

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four of those on our list right
away. Are you guys happy with that?

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Wolverine, Storm are like the easy
go Like I think those are the

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install locks. But yeah, those
four I would agree with. Yeah,

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yeah. And then other characters,
so well, we're just gonna start with

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small, obvious ones and then we
can get into, you know, pitching

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our new ones and whatnot and so
other these are characters that that we're in

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both X Men Legends one and two
that we haven't mentioned yet. Beast and

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Cyclops. Should we just lock those
happy to lot those? I would love

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Beasts to be in like a New
Alliance type of game, you know,

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Yeah, because he wasn't in any
of the Ultimate Alliance games. No,

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I think he's an NPC, but
he never ye never played, so I

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love and they different costumes of Beasts. Yeah, of course Gambit as well.

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I think absolute Jean Gray as well. You got to get her in

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there. What do you do with
Phoenix though? Is that the same character?

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Separate moves, move sets? Yeah, I'm thinking like maybe Dark Phoenix

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is like a boss fight in the
game or something, but the character yourself,

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I don't care color Phoenix color Jean
Gray. Like I'm on the bandwagon

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where I'd want them separated because I'd
want them have two different complete move sets,

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and really because there's Phoenix and Dark
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Geen Gray. So I feel like
when you look at Gene Gray and you

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look at Phoenix and her move set, they're not the Like. Now,

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what they do in video games is
just well just give They could do that,

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right, and maybe we can.
If we need to fill a slot,

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you can throw Phoenix in there.
But for me, if I was

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having like a dream roster, I'd
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Gray would be the more helping the
support character, but Phoenix is the like

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like destroyed. Yeah, I feel
like you could just implement that into like

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an ultimate move though. You could
just have Gene Gray and then like when

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you hit that ultimate bar, she
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of like how Captain Marvel played right
and Ultimate Alliance when she goes binary mode.

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Yeah Phoenix, Yeah that's true in
Ultimate Eightser because I'd booted that up

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yesterday just to try out some of
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move set in that game is full

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of fire moves, and her like
her ultimate move. I don't think she

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like transforms into Dark Phoenix, but
she does like a huge fire explosion and

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revives someone. So it's a very
Phoenix sort of thing. So should we

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just put Gene Gray on the list
for now and the Dark Phoenix maybe is

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a contender or should we just put
both versions and the contender list and come

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back to it later. I feel
like I'm happy with just the one version,

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you know, I feel like Phoenix, then okay, we can come

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back. Interesting night Crawler, as
you mentioned Kirkland, you gotta have a

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Nightcrawler. Rogue, you gotta have
Rogue. Yeah, really souped up power

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rogue though Tankage Yeah yeah. Another
character who has never been in an Ultimate

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A Liance game, which is interesting. And then we mentioned Storm and Wolverine.

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So that's actually that's the list of
all the all the characters that were

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in both games. So I think
that could maybe serve as like a nice

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that's a level. That's ten characters
right off the bat. Maybe that our

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nice foundation there, Travis, it
seems like you're on the wait. I'm

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waiting. I'm waiting for the waiting
for the completely. I completely agree with

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that list of ten so far.
The Jubilee in the room is she on

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the cut? Did Jubilee on the
cut? So she wasn't in that that

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I made, But I think she
should be a lot I think, and

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I want them to make that yellow
whatever trench coat as bright as possible in

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the game, like that's her finish
she just puts on. You're like,

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oh, that's what I want.
But absolutely, I feel like you have

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her lots of good Commo moves and
everything. So, yeah, Jubilee to

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me is a lock. Who else
do you guys consider would you consider to

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be just like a lock without a
shadow of a dough? There's no chance

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this character is not playable. Two
things? Are we leaving villains more towards

407
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:45,279
the back half of the conversation.
No, I feel like saber Tooths a

408
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,400
lock. Then he was in one
game already. He was in I don't

409
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,839
know if he was in the x
ME games, but he was in a

410
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,839
Marvel Alliance game. He was in
Ultimates one and X Men Legends too.

411
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,519
Yeah, I feel like he would
be. He's tanky, lots of great

412
00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:02,119
costumes. It's top though, and
this is where before if we want to

413
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,119
lock saber Tooth, maybe the counter
would be with the game rather. It's

414
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,799
tough because I don't know what they
do for the move set, but I

415
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,759
guess you get the foot claw to
me, it's X twenty three, And

416
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:14,680
that's saying like, is there a
game where you would have Wolverine saber Tooth

417
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,000
the next twenty three? I don't
know if there would be, and I

418
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:19,839
feel like they would lean towards getting
X twenty three now because the foot claw.

419
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,759
I think that is something very fun
you could do with You can have

420
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,960
them different stats wise, so I
think in a dream world you get them

421
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,240
all. But that's my only counterpoint
for saber Tooth that I think he would

422
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,119
be a lock. But if we
were to have lower in the conversation,

423
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,720
then I'd say that he kind of
gets gets the boot. Yeah, I

424
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,039
mean, I think that's the difficult
thing with villains is that naturally, like

425
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,119
I don't know, we could we
could be content quote unquote to just have

426
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,519
them in the game as like,
oh well obviously you'd fight against them.

427
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,400
Yeah, and that's okay, and
we don't necessarily name those a playable character.

428
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,440
And that's where I would put saber
Tooth I think in the contender category

429
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:57,079
right now, just because I think
we're gonna get to we're gonna get up

430
00:25:57,079 --> 00:26:00,880
to like high into the twenties pretty
quick, you know. And I don't,

431
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,519
I don't know, I don't,
I don't know if I can lie

432
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,000
yet I would not pass that that
vote just yet. I feel like like

433
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:11,160
even as cool villains, I feel
like there's so much cooler ones than that,

434
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,039
Like Omega Red would be a lock
over over that more so. But

435
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,480
I also feel like that's that would
be too early because he is just like

436
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,799
that would be a villain. It
could be like an easy first round of

437
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,720
DLC pack, you know, the
Omega Red pack, but with Omega Red,

438
00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:30,359
Sabertooth and stuff. I'm with you, Omega Red as a lock for

439
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,960
me, but I think that's like
for Hype, I don't know if they

440
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,960
would like I don't know what the
fan base for Omega Red is out there,

441
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:38,400
so yeah, just a communist character
that's probably not the name one.

442
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:45,720
But for Sabertooth, I also feel
like, I don't know, maybe I'm

443
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,759
wrong by this, and maybe I'm
just going by marvel Snap stats, but

444
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:52,319
he just seems very similar to Logan
in my opinion, where obviously you can

445
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,640
make them separate, but yeah,
I don't know, just bigger. He's

446
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,720
like the tank. You're like,
same same general powers right like the region

447
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:07,960
in there. He's tough. He's
just a brawler, smell nails, big

448
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,599
different there you go. I don't
know, I just feel like to fit

449
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,799
that tank type category or brawler type
category, there's so many other like someone

450
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:18,039
like Colossus for example, that has
been in games before, Like would he

451
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,799
be an instant lock for you,
I feel like me. Yes, I

452
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:23,519
feel like he would be just because
he is like such a generic, like

453
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:32,480
brawler type tank character. But yeah, Clausus is really fun in Ultimate Lines

454
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:36,519
three. I can't remember his move
set super Bowl one or two, but

455
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,720
I really like his what they did
with his move set in three. For

456
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:42,079
me, people can just like Combo, their their beams off of him,

457
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:47,079
like at all times pretty much just
walks around and he just reflects beams.

458
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,799
It's really cool. Classes would be
a lock for me. I need that

459
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:52,079
Fastball special with Wolverine where he just
picks up the toss some stuff, Like

460
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,680
I feel like I thought we already
locked Classes. I'm gonna be honest with

461
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,759
you too. Yeah, yeah,
what about what about Laura? What we're

462
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:04,279
talking with the Feral characters? Definitely
on my contender list. Yeah, strong

463
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:07,599
contender, but not an immediate lock, but I would I would love to

464
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,319
get her into this roster for sure, especially lately she's been the actual current

465
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:14,839
Wolverine and comics. I feel like
you're gonna get a big push for her

466
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,319
in the next five years or so. So yeah, but okay, contender

467
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,680
list, all right, and then
well, I'm surprised there's a couple other

468
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,880
like easy locks for me. But
Kirkland, do you have other do you

469
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,119
have other easy lock type characters?
Maybe I missed it, but we did

470
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:33,680
we already lock Gambit lock. Okay. Good. Someone that's kind of out

471
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,599
of the ordinary roster he's been relevant
since animated series for sure is Cable.

472
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,319
I don't know if he's been playable, but I feel like he would be

473
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:44,920
a mass, massive lock for me
right away, just because he's the most

474
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,000
badass character kicking. If you guys
want to in the list, you can

475
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,839
pull that up. Okay, okay, yeah to me? Yeah, Cable

476
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,920
a combo lock, you know.
So? Yeah, Cable was in Next

477
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,680
Men Legends two, and then he
was in Ultimate Lines two and three three

478
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:03,039
as a DLC character as well.
I think I think Cables will lock for

479
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,200
sure. And we haven't actually locked
Deadpool yet. I think we should just

480
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,799
do that right now as well.
Yeah, I guess I would. Why

481
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,279
what holds you back on that track? I'm Deadpool outed in video games Midnight

482
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,519
Suns was my lever where It's like
I didn't need them here, you know,

483
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,200
And that's what's just like, as
much as I love they would absolutely

484
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,119
do it. So if you're asking, hey, Trav's business, I were

485
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,039
you Locky. Yes. So if
we're just making what we think is the

486
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,960
roster, it's our dream roster,
so it should be it should be our

487
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,880
passion rather than what is the business
we'll put them, We'll put them there,

488
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,319
I guess. I just there's still
For me, it's just would I

489
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,160
rather take Deadpool, who has been
playable in so many games, or someone

490
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,839
new that's never gone a spot?
And that's where I am in the sense

491
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:45,599
where Deadpool's gone his own game.
He would definitely make it in there.

492
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,720
But for me, that's my only
thing. I like Deadpool one of my

493
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,119
favorite characters, love him, but
just there's been so much Deadpool. I'd

494
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,160
rather be someone get me Leech,
you know, like, and maybe the

495
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:59,680
character might suck, right, but
I just because there's been so much Deadpool,

496
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,599
I would actually be fine with a
pass, but I think of alone

497
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,359
on the rocks. That's okay.
I mean, honestly, you're making some

498
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,599
good points because I agree in Uh
Midnight Suns like worst character in terms of

499
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,240
move set, and then also ultimately
it's three. I did not like his

500
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,720
move set very much, so I
was never really a big fan of his.

501
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,720
There I something just feels wrong if
he's not on the roster for me,

502
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:27,279
But we can wait. Also we
can just I think we should slap

503
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,279
him in contender for now, just
based on this conversation. Stop him at

504
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:36,720
the border. You're a Canadian,
you can't get What about the Twins,

505
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:41,960
I feel like they're a lock.
Yeah, yeah, especially which for sure,

506
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:45,480
let's do that right now. Well
Scraich for me, Quicksilver for sure,

507
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,240
because we com plain all the time
of why don't these games ever get

508
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:51,119
speedsters and we know why they don't
because it'd be such a pain for me

509
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,119
then to figure it out. But
Lego Marvel just fantastic. They they cracked

510
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,759
the code like they they're like if
you play the Flat or even just like

511
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,240
play DC Lego Batman or Justice League, like when he plays Flash. They

512
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,319
can be fast, but there's a
great like way and effort they use it.

513
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,440
For me, I would want Quicksilver
to be in there, cool combo

514
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,200
moves, you need the cool synergy
between the two. But for me,

515
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:15,640
I want more Speedzers in these games. I want them to get challenged the

516
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,599
dev It's not that it's not already. Yeah, which Flash in that Justice

517
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,119
League game. I don't think we
ever got that far. He might have

518
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,559
been, but we didn't very far. I'll do it, take a look,

519
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:29,880
but I don't know if he was. Yeah, I so when I

520
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,759
was going through this, Quicksilver has
never been playable in either X Men Legends

521
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,079
game or any Ultimate Alliance. So
I see where youre coming from, Travis,

522
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:38,559
of like, yeah, I understand
why not because it could be tricky.

523
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,920
But to me, it's like you
just make his his like power moves

524
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,440
where he does like a big Z
formation and like that's that's like a hip

525
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,519
box. So you make him do
like a spinning tornado thing, and that's

526
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:52,519
how you incorporate the speeds are and
you can make his like default move speed

527
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,000
a little bit faster than normal.
Obviously, with every player sharing the same

528
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,240
screen, it's tricky if you have
one guy who's like flying super far.

529
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920
But you're already know that jankiness anyway, when certain characters are flying over things

530
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,519
and whatnot, like you're already gonna
get that chaos in these kind of games.

531
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,079
You just got to embrace it.
So yeah, I think for the

532
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,880
first time ever, Quicksilver should be
playable in U in one of these games.

533
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,960
I feel like you could also just
do like quick attacks as their default

534
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,599
attacks and just have them kind of
like the animation style doing more effect than

535
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,640
what's actually happening. Yeah, he
just keeps running around the character or something

536
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,839
like that could be. I feel
like it could definitely work. He could

537
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,480
like slow the world down and like
you could go just beat up a bunch

538
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,039
of people. That'd be sweet.
Yeah. Flash was in that Justice League

539
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,880
Heroes game, so I don't know
what he played, like, so you

540
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,759
did it there? Yeah, but
yeah, I'm I'm full in the Quicksilver

541
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:39,279
train. I feel like he has
to make his time here, you know.

542
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:45,480
Yeah. One one character that I
really didn't know much about, I

543
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:51,000
think before I played Midnight Suns and
then of course popping up my Marvel Snap,

544
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:55,039
I got magic yuh Ileana Russ Button
I believe is her name. Yeah,

545
00:32:55,279 --> 00:33:00,279
really interesting character, and I feel
like just the sword is very,

546
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,359
very usable in many different ways.
Obviously just bashing bashing random mobs or maybe

547
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,400
have some sort of teleportation thing to
it, like bashing random what what bashing

548
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:15,960
random? What? What did I
say? You said mobs? Yeah?

549
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:21,400
I heard moms. I'm like,
why what does that mean what I said

550
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:23,680
was so was so crazy, but
you like immediately forgot what you said,

551
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,920
just like this reaction. I was
just like, okay, mobs, Yeah,

552
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,680
just bashing random mobs or having like
a baff effect similar to not necessarily

553
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,240
as fast as might crawler, but
just like a group portal something something like

554
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,920
that. And she's also she's got
a great charisma, like I feel like,

555
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,960
just bouncing off other characters. Her
little one liners could be brothers in

556
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,400
our game already. Yeah, that's
right. Yeah, so it's for me.

557
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,680
I'm I'm a huge fan after Midnight
Sun, so that's a easy lock

558
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,880
for me as well. How about
that we take a quick break, We'll

559
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,680
go We'll go to Limbo with Magic
for a moment. We'll be right back.

560
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Moms, Okay, we are back. What's the confusion. We haven't

561
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,760
technically locked Magneto yet, so we
should do that. It's just gonna bring

562
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,840
him up. Yees, he's got
He's always super fun in these games.

563
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,480
He feels overpowered in the best way
possible, especially Ultimate Lines three. Like

564
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:22,719
his attacks we're so freaking huge.
I X Men Legends two is cool.

565
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,199
He's like one of the starting four
characters. You get in that game,

566
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,559
which is I think such a fun, fun twist on what you'd expect.

567
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,920
Do we decide on Charles do we
contender him to be side like that?

568
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,679
For me, isn't the quick suategory
where I want to see them challenge,

569
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,519
Like, hey, you make this
character that is an un floating chair and

570
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:43,960
has no mixed martial arts, no
training, it's all the mind. What

571
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:45,519
do you do with that character?
And I think there's enough characters like Jean

572
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:49,840
Gray Scott which that they could base
it off and goes similar to them,

573
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,000
but do something completely different. I
think the same way when and I think

574
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,960
it'd be like for me, Magneto
and Xavier be like like, let's say

575
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,519
this penultimate level you play where it's
those two together and you make same thing

576
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:07,280
Charles super strong, Like think about
like a big attack, like what's that

577
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,679
called when it's like a big circle
round you? Yeah, think about you

578
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,039
do that and just like all the
enemies like hold their minds for a few

579
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,800
seconds stuff like that, Like I
think you could have them turn on each

580
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,280
other. You could do many games
have that thing where the enemies start fighting

581
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,679
each other, like all big attacks
like that, So you have to be

582
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,320
I don't know if you could solo
the game as him, but what if

583
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:30,599
you should google or YouTube his his
gameplay of him and Ultimate Lance one.

584
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:34,239
I'm curious, okay what that looks
like? I will and second, but

585
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,880
that would be my pitch is won
the challenge like Quicksilver, like get him

586
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,679
in there too. I think when
all the things we've seen in the movies

587
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,639
and even just like his finish,
I feel like you could do something really

588
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:45,199
cool of like going into the mind
and that's where he messages you up,

589
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,519
like almost like a moral commat thing. I would like to see Charles in

590
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:52,360
this game, you know, like
I said, maybe it's something. He's

591
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,159
a character. He could be the
last unlocked, like you unlocked Charles Xavier.

592
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:59,400
He is, that's how strong he
should be, like almost than as

593
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:05,000
Like mm hm, I'm I'm in
a weird spall where I I just I

594
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,280
think I'm okay with him being like
an NPC, being like the quest giver,

595
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,119
being the dude of the mansion.
I'm sure he could have a cool

596
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,280
move set. And if this was
a roster of ninety seven characters, absolutely

597
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,599
he's in there. But for me
with thirty six, I there's a chance

598
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,119
there's a chance I want him in
there, but right now I couldn't.

599
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:23,920
I couldn't put him as a as
a roster lock at the moment. I

600
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,840
just gotta wait and see what the
rest of the field looks like. I

601
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,199
forgot. He's also in the fighting
game too, So in the side scrolling

602
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:35,480
Fighting game, that's the first one
that came up. I I can see

603
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,000
and I'm watching it. It's just
Magneto beating the shit out of him.

604
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,079
But yeah, then he does some
mind effects. I feel like I'm I

605
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:43,800
see where he's coming from, Travis, But for right now, it's just

606
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,920
hard for me to picture. Like, yeah, I can see the CC

607
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:50,039
moves. I can see like the
crowd control, the utility that he would

608
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,119
provide to a team, but just
like what happens when you don't have any

609
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,719
manna or whatever that bar is,
Like, I just can't picture him just

610
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,519
beating down people to like like you
know, just like shooting a little like

611
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,400
mind bows, you know, or
like just pip out his chair. I

612
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:07,039
guess that has like a like a
song that was because that was something I

613
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,800
loved about at the Alliance three is
that they for characters that like it doesn't

614
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,000
really make sense for them to be
punching and kicking. They made like their

615
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:16,840
basic moves, not that like Storms
basic moves are like throwing out little tornadoes.

616
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,000
And I think they did such a
good job of representing the characters,

617
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,960
whereas every other game Storm is like, yeah, throwing throwing fists around and

618
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,960
whatnot. So for Exavier, they
could do a similar thing, right,

619
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,400
He's like shooting little mind bullets or
something. But but yeah, I don't

620
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,800
know. I think should we leave
in Contenders for now, We'll come back

621
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,079
to them. I'm more sold than
it was the first time, but not

622
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:42,719
fully sold yet. Guys. There's
three characters that to me are total snubs

623
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239
that they'd never been playable in any
of these games. One of them we

624
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,440
talked about is Quicksilver. Two other
ones Mystique has never been playable before in

625
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,239
any of these games. And once
again, I get it, she's mostly

626
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,000
like a black widow type with the
punches and the kicks and the agility and

627
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,400
whatnot. But I think, you
know, you give her some grenades,

628
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,480
you give her gun or something,
give her some ability to transform into other

629
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,159
characters. I think she could be
really fun and she should have a chance

630
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:12,760
to have a move set. Not
for me, I'm the same way you

631
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,480
feel at Charles. I'm fine with
her being NPC because I think in a

632
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:19,039
game of X Men, I don't
want grenades and guns, and I feel

633
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,599
like she's the character if you have
thirty six people and you had to split

634
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,400
the roster in half into a football
game, she gets picked last every time.

635
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:29,440
No one's gonna want to play as
Mystique, Like, I just don't

636
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,039
know if there's anything cool to do
with her powers in a sense in this

637
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,239
right, Like I think I would
work in like a Mortal Kombat game where

638
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,440
you could switch into ub zero as
Mystique, like oh shit, But for

639
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,000
me, I would never Like,
of course i'd try her for you and

640
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:45,119
everything, but I would have no
interest to play as Mystique, just because

641
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:49,400
it's just it's just a tactical character
that can be kind of in everything else.

642
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,199
And I guess you could have like
a puncher kicker, but there's gonna

643
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,039
be other combat people with even a
bishop and cable, Like they shoot in

644
00:38:55,159 --> 00:39:00,400
everything, but they still punch.
Wolverine punches. Lor save to punch is

645
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,039
gambit punches. So for me,
it's just like there's not enough with her

646
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:07,719
powers or the attack she used that
I would want to play as her.

647
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,119
I guess I'm fun with her as
a contender, but I don't think I

648
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,440
would ever select her unless for some
reason it was really cool. But I

649
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:15,599
want more of the power base and
the X Men game, So that's where

650
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:20,000
I come from with a mystique.
I'm definitely a lot more sold on it.

651
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:24,199
I feel like the type of move
set that you like steal someone's abilities

652
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,159
or appearance or something is just really
appealing to me in gameplay, Like the

653
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,840
character of Shang Sung in Mortal Kombat
one, like they use it's so good

654
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,199
that if you do a set move
set, you'll copy the complete like you'll

655
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,480
just be the other character. But
then there's also ones that you'll just steal,

656
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,159
like an ability or something, use
it in like the heat of gameplay,

657
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,559
And I feel like that can be
utilized really well in a type of

658
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:49,960
game that we're pitching. The hardest
thing is maybe when you don't have like

659
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,960
another like instead of copy you know, Mega Red's abilities or something like that,

660
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,119
like you will have just random webs. Yeah yeah, but I still

661
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:01,440
think you could have something like she
just you do something and you like become

662
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:07,000
another character from anyone on the roster
and like not necessarily anyone that's in the

663
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,280
party, and then it's just a
limited thing or like certain abilities like that.

664
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,840
I just feel like it's it's really
appealing to be able to kind of

665
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,159
play every character with the one character
obviously wouldn't be permanent and be very limited.

666
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:21,480
But I'm I'm definitely more sold on
this, I think than Charles so

667
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,599
far. But I'm okay with benching
her for now. We'll put her in

668
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:29,760
contender. And the other character that
I was surprised to see has never been

669
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,840
playable on all these games is can
you Pride? Yeah, she's on my

670
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,679
list. Yeah with the Dragon version, get her a little dragon homie in

671
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:38,639
there, right, that's a lot
for me. Yeah, the Dragon homie.

672
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:42,800
You're gonna do multiple different tacks.
I think the thoughts of cool with

673
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,519
the phasing and her going through stuff. So to me, she's led the

674
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,800
X Men before, so to me
that was like, that's an instlock.

675
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,960
I get in the past, though, why she didn't. She's gone more

676
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,159
popular over the years, and I
just feel like when you have a smaller

677
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,440
roster back then you gotta go for
those big, heavy hitters, but if

678
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,159
you deal a bigger roster, she
to me would be in top ten,

679
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,440
top fifteen, Like she's the ones
that would be in the almost the announcement

680
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,719
trailer, you know, sorry,
right, yeah, Kirk. Initially,

681
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,400
I feel like her move set is
hard for me to translate into a game

682
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,400
like this. I don't really know
too much about the dragon thing, but

683
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,159
like also just being able to go
through terrain. Obviously it has fantastic exploration

684
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,039
uses, but I definitely think it
can be utilized in combat as well.

685
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,320
I don't know the full extent that
she uses it, Like, I feel

686
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,079
like I'm kind of limited on this
on my knowledge of this character in general,

687
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,000
but I think because she is so
unique, it would be fantastic inclusion

688
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,599
in a roster because it is so
different than like a regular character. Would

689
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,800
she be like a damage dealer utility? Like, like what kind of role

690
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,400
do you think she would fit?
I think she could be like a bit

691
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,639
of a support character along with you
know, doing the classic beat him up

692
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:55,400
stuff. But I think she'd be
very agile, like good at dodging.

693
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,400
Maybe has like low HP, but
it's just really good at dodging. But

694
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,559
they can also maybe like make a
teammate and I guess, like what they

695
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,800
intangible or something so the enemies can't
shoot them for a bit or something like

696
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,119
that as well, or maybe they
like you could just in a gameplay sense,

697
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:14,920
translate that into her having like a
heel or something. Make the whole

698
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,039
team like I think like that would
be like a big group activity where you

699
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,679
make the whole team go invisible for
a bit they can't take damage and stuff.

700
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,719
So and then having the dragon as
like a little pet I think is

701
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,159
a fun idea too, where that
could be used for a couple moves as

702
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:30,559
well. So, yeah, what
do you think, Kirklin, is that

703
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:35,440
is a Locker contender for you?
I'm okay with I'm okay to Locker.

704
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:40,760
Definitely do it for the first time
ever. Yeah, how about we let's

705
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,039
go maybe we'll finish talk about these
characters in the first two games that we

706
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:46,760
think maybe still have a chance of
making any of this game. So we

707
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,920
we talked about Emma Frost. Yes, I'd like to see it locked.

708
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,800
Honestly, That's where I'm at with
her me too, are we all there?

709
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:59,639
Travis Contendership? Where you at to
me? I'm in the same sense

710
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:01,960
of like in the comics, her
and Charles are very similar so to me.

711
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,159
To me, it's like they either
both get locked or they're both contenders.

712
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:09,360
Not locked because she's not a fighter. You can't turn Diamond though she

713
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,880
can like Tank, but he can
easily just put a mind shield in front

714
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,719
of him right like that. No, it's just like they are the exact

715
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,599
same as far as them as fighters. When you're talking about like what would

716
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,440
be their just natural a attack,
they both don't have that. So for

717
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,800
me, they are too similar,
and that's the sense of maybe it'd be

718
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,760
like, Okay, it's too hard
to crack this character and you could only

719
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,880
have one, So for me,
I would be and if I have one,

720
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,280
it's tough because I see pros and
cons for both. So for me,

721
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,119
I would rather contender her right now
or I locked Charles on both.

722
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,679
Yeah, you've swayed me a bit
to contendership. Actually, unless Kirkland has

723
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:53,079
a great move set counter argument here, Diamond Diamonds are addition, Yeah,

724
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,480
yeah, I don't have it in
me right now. Okay, we'll come

725
00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:00,840
back, actually, so bring this
up here. So I mentioned Magma of

726
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,800
course, and then Sunfire in the
second game Pyro in the second game.

727
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,960
There's a lot of fire based characters. I think you could have one fire

728
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,280
based character because that's fun for the
move set and stuff. And I guess

729
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,159
if we're considering a dark Phoenix,
maybe we'd go that way. And then

730
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,480
there was another fire character I was
thinking of that wasn't in one of those

731
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:23,800
games. Did you mention Pyro?
Yeah, Pyro is in the second one.

732
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,079
I guess Sunspot, like, is
he fire? Kind of you kind

733
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,440
of like a fire a sort of
dude as well. The only reasons is

734
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:37,159
it he He's in ninety seven,
right, He's the one we keep talking

735
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,599
about. I think if it's Sunfire
Sunspots different characters. Whichever son it is,

736
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:45,000
is it Sunspot as I feel like
he if yeah, he is,

737
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:49,760
I feel like I'm a Pyro guy. But if you were looking at characters,

738
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,239
I feel like in this age,
maybe they're gonna give him a little

739
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,480
bit of a run. I feel
like Sunspot would be the fire guy.

740
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,960
He actually looks kind of cool when
you look at some stuff when he gets

741
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:00,960
if you look at and then when
he turns into fire, it's not just

742
00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:05,199
him, like he becomes like dark
and molten and stuff. Not the Days

743
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:07,880
of future past one. He's not
as cool. But if you look at

744
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,519
the calm, if you just put
an x M ninety seven sun Spot,

745
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,559
he looks cool when he transforms.
So I think that would actually be a

746
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:17,480
really cool outfit or different outfits or
whatever the second one. So I would

747
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,559
be in the sun Spot camp for
the sort of hiccups for the fire guy

748
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:23,760
one. Not saying we can't have
more, but I feel like if we're

749
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,000
getting one, I think we should. I think we should do one and

750
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:30,639
one alone. Yeah, like if
any of them were more iconic characters,

751
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:32,679
yes, but I think for the
power element of it, we got to

752
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,119
have one of them. But I
don't. I don't really think there's room

753
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:38,079
for more than one. Just with
a thirty six cap on here. Yeah,

754
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:40,920
I'm teeing some like maybe there's like
a costume where you can look like

755
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,440
the other ones and they can just
share a move set or something, but

756
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:52,079
that that's kind of where I'm at. I vote Sunspot just because it's it's

757
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,559
new and unique and like his look
for sure, and just the ability to

758
00:45:55,639 --> 00:46:00,320
absorb and channel solar power like that? Is that not so similar to Scott

759
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,880
Summers with his like, isn't that
how he gets his laser beam? Yeah?

760
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,599
He kind of like a mister Negative
thing going on too in some of

761
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:10,480
these photos, so I like that. So he's very meta Card and Marble

762
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:14,599
Snap as well. Okay, it's
good, good one. Okay, Well

763
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:16,599
we'll do Sunspot. Then do you
want me to put any other fire characters

764
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:22,159
that I mentioned in Contenders or on
the fringe? Anyone that you want to

765
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:25,519
think about? Definitely not Magma.
I think we can drop I Pyro down

766
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:29,480
if anyone, it would be Pyro
for me, just because it's like the

767
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,719
most classic fire guy I feel.
But that just comes to the slot too,

768
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,239
and it's like, I guarantee theky
we can only do five villains.

769
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,760
If they would I want to be
one of them. No, I definitely

770
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,760
wouldn't you know. So we can
leave them there for contenders, but he's

771
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,039
more so at the bottom for me
for contenders. M hm. Okay,

772
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:51,079
and then let's see whatever I Silock. What do you guys to feel about

773
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,079
Silock? So was it playable in
the first X Men Legends and then in

774
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,599
Ultimate lines two and three. I
think she's cool. I love her powers.

775
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:02,239
I'll ever look. I think she'd
probably lock for me, but I'd

776
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,239
be okay with a contender for now, she would be a lock for me.

777
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,679
I played her quite a bit actually
in Ultimate lines three and just I

778
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,119
don't know, really cool look with
just agile ninja type character, and I

779
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:20,599
feel like it's we don't have too
many light attack characters, I guess,

780
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,960
as well as ones that are focused
on like a DPS aspect, and for

781
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,400
those reasons, Outlocker and my background's
very silocky right now. Yeah, yeah,

782
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:34,719
it is absolutely locked for me.
One just because I feel like versus

783
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,000
the mystique thing where it's like,
oh, that's more combat character. This

784
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:38,519
is the combat with the power.
So you have the sowre, they're growing,

785
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:42,320
those lots of daggers, you could
throw out stuff, and just for

786
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,840
like, I still kind of go
for not just business, but like what

787
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,400
would people want? The nineties kids
love Silock, like that's when she got

788
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,400
a big push. I just feel
like people, whether it's for coolness or

789
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,960
for other reasons of young males growing
up, like there's lots things with Silock,

790
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,840
but I just feel like people see
Silock and they oh, what a

791
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,480
cool character. So I feel like
she to me is an insta Locke,

792
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,800
and I'm kind of surprised that she's
not been in almost more of these games.

793
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,880
It's like not generic, but like
she's a fighting character, so very

794
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,559
more easy moonset. You just add
some big knives on those fists and you're

795
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:16,000
good to go, you know,
very much, so big knives next to

796
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:22,719
Bishop, I like character importance wise, I wanted to be there, but

797
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,719
is his moves that not just like
he has an assault rifle? Like what

798
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,880
is what is his past? Cable
too, so I picture Cable similar to

799
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,840
Bishop, but Cable way cooler,
So that's what would be my vote.

800
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,400
Cable has like little time traveling things. He has like more electronic things he

801
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:43,000
has like grenades and stuff. I
feel like Bishops just that music that classic

802
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:46,079
you got that music. But he
also has a big gun that like he's

803
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:49,800
known for, like it charges up
that even taco and day like it's in

804
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,320
days of Futures pass, like you
had to make sure you had that gun.

805
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,840
Like I'm in the same camp as
Emma and Xavier where I think it's

806
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,000
like a both or not, because
I feel there's lots of people that prefer

807
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:04,840
Bishop to Cable, So that's where
it's like, what's the argument for Cable

808
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,400
over Bishop other than just like he's
cooler. So I'm fine to put him

809
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,199
in contenders. But I'm a I'm
a with them both because I also feel

810
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:15,199
like story aspect wise, they would
be linked together like they were both in

811
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,679
Marvel Allons two together. I just
feel like that's what happened. If one

812
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,599
was in the game, the other
one will not be that far behind.

813
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:25,440
Like all the stuff you talked about, the time deflection everything, you can

814
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,039
literally just put those same Caables on
the Bishop and they're the same, right,

815
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:31,760
So that's the thing where they have. They are similar guys, but

816
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:38,199
it's the look and the vibe.
So I think alliance was what you said.

817
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,440
Bishop is an ultimate Alliance. I
think he's at the Alliance two.

818
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:45,159
I'm pretty sure. I think he
was part of the Civil War story because

819
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:47,960
I think that's the big thing is
they come there together or together. But

820
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,360
I don't think he's not a playable
character, though I think he is.

821
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:58,480
I would love to be proven one
way or the other on that. I

822
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,639
don't I didn't see him in when
I was going to get he could be

823
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,840
right maybe about that. See,
you know what if they didn't put him

824
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,119
in there, but they put Cable
in there. What does that say about

825
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:09,639
the relative? I also I pull
in like because I once again I was

826
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:13,719
playing Cable yesterday and ultimately it's three
and he has a really interesting move set.

827
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,159
So that's where he's a bit more
I guess top of mine in terms

828
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:20,480
of having an interesting move set for
me. Oh, you could be right

829
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,960
if he's I think you could have
Bishop in the game too and just not

830
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:30,000
Yeah, Bishop absolutely in the game
Cable story also, have we already locked

831
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,320
Cable already in there? So two
or no? I mean, I guess

832
00:50:34,639 --> 00:50:38,960
okay, he was a boss battle, I guess, but see now reverse,

833
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,119
I'd be like, I'd be like, flip them, give Bishop his

834
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,119
chance. You know, Cable's got
a chance already. But Bishop was playable

835
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:52,039
and ultimately in X Men Legends too, that's where he's been playable. What

836
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:52,920
was I I was gonna say,
but I was, oh, yeah,

837
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,519
along with that, I was just
saying about x Men animated series like Forge.

838
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,480
I feel like Forges in this game
too, but he's not like a

839
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,679
playable character. He's in there as
like an NPC type. That's where I

840
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:07,440
feel like Bishop could be used for
yeah, some story purpose, but I

841
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,480
don't necessarily need to play as him. I was gonna pitch Forge. Actually,

842
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:15,079
I feel like as a support role
could be very interesting, like Buffy

843
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:19,920
and his allies, like giving them
just like I know he's not a Blacksmith,

844
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,400
but like something along those lines could
be really interesting. Put Forge in

845
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,840
there, but not Xavier. This
is I was gonna pitch it. I

846
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,880
was gonna pitch it. I'm not
saying I'm not gonna I'm gonna die on

847
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,880
that hill or anything, but just
an interesting character that would be like a

848
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,239
very different move set I think,
but like like a strict support type character.

849
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,840
But that's okay. I like the
idea. I like the idea,

850
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,599
but not sold on it yet.
What are moving on? Juggernaut has been

851
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:52,239
in a couple of these games.
Once again, I want him in there,

852
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,880
but I think I maybe put him
in Contenders for now, just until

853
00:51:54,920 --> 00:52:01,280
we talk about some more. We're
already at nineteen, but we're getting the

854
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,159
big time x Men's how many tank
people we said no Toe, Saber Tooth,

855
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,840
We got Beast and who else?
Like unaut Juggernaut though, is like

856
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:15,159
if he isn't like one of the
hardest characters to kill. I feel like

857
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:17,239
it's not truly Juggernaut. So for
that reason, I just see him as

858
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,760
like a big boss battle. I
did not feel like that with Fanos or

859
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,800
Doctor Dooman. You could unlock them
and marble on the line street like you

860
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,239
shouldn't be able to kill Fanos,
but you can't like just gonna run through

861
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,840
and just like kill everyone, Like
that's what its up. It is that

862
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,639
it literally like if you get a
buff on it of course, and like

863
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,559
Nana, but that is one where
you run through. Like to me,

864
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,039
he's fun. It's like the equivalent
if you have Avengers and you have the

865
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:44,199
Hulk. That's what he's the equivalent
of. Like, yeah, beasts can

866
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,440
be a tank, but he's not
odd tank. When Spider Man you get

867
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:52,679
Venom. There's no big tank tank
character we have yet. And that's discarding

868
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,360
villains because we haven't talked about villains
yet because I know there's like the Big

869
00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:00,039
Egg will probably be in there.
But still I just feel like Juggernaut to

870
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,960
me, he's been Legends, he's
been an Alton Alliance. I feel like

871
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:07,320
that would be apt for him to
be in this game. And he's Charles's

872
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,239
brother you know, to get Charles
in there, do those combo moves.

873
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,960
Just get armor in there if you
want to tank and h I like that

874
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,360
pick bone Breaker as well too,
you know. Yeah, I mean,

875
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:22,920
don't get me wrong, Travers,
I'm I'm leaning towards like wanting him in,

876
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:28,239
but I'm I to me, I
can't lock it right off the bat

877
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:36,079
x X on the Juggernaut. He's
going two minutes to pitch another big giant

878
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:42,920
character, Like, what what about
Sasquash? Yeah, Toad. I think

879
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Toad would be fun for the move
set, but I just don't think there's

880
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,159
a room for him this time around, is my perspective on that one.

881
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:54,400
I don't think. So He's on
my later list just to he could be

882
00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:00,119
the first character in the fringe category. What about what about Angel? Yes,

883
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:06,119
you could have arch Angel like Angels
on my list. Hmm. I

884
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:09,280
just feel like the costumes, the
wing powers you have in these games where

885
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,360
it's either the flying or like the
webbing, you have those characters at the

886
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,199
whole triangle and they go up a
little like to me, Angel, because

887
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:19,079
I don't think he's been in any
of these games, that would be a

888
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,239
muss. I'm kind of surprised because
he's been in many iterations Poplar X men.

889
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,440
He's very popular when you make him
the Horseman version, and you gotta

890
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,840
have that caution the game. So
to me, Angel is a that that

891
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,679
would have been an install lock for
me. The only thing holding me back

892
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:37,280
on it is I think I imagine
his ross or his move set rather would

893
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:42,800
be rather similar to Falcons and Altimate
Lions three. And he's not one of

894
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,719
my favorites. M but we don't
have anyone like that yet, and we

895
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,639
could refine you're true, you're not
wrong, You're not wrong. This could

896
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,639
be the you guys are both on
the lock tier. For him, it

897
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:55,599
sounds like I'm long. Yeah,
I think that you're right, Dylan,

898
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,480
that that could be the character.
Go oh man, you end up sucking.

899
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,320
But I just feel like even just
look wise those costumes that you yeah,

900
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,639
horse version, Yeah, I definitely
want the Archangel costume. Let's be

901
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:10,320
honest. That's half, not half
of that's at least twenty five percent of

902
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,079
why we love those games as Oh, what are the bonus costumes? I

903
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:16,519
think about Alton the Lions one of
having four, you put Angel in there

904
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:21,440
just so you can have the Apocalypse
costume stuff like just didn't get those outfits,

905
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:27,079
so absolutely okay. And then just
finishing off the X Men Legends two

906
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:30,400
roster, Cannonball, I mean,
fuck Canniball after the show. I don't

907
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,000
want I don't want them in here. No cannon Ball, Sorry to the

908
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,039
Canniball fans. Okay, X Men, we talked about him, but I

909
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:42,320
don't think he's gonna make it here. And then we've talked about all these

910
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,519
ever iron Man. Iron Man is
not gonna make it in our locked I

911
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:50,760
think. So there you go.
We've gone through the roster of the first

912
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,239
two games. So yeah, Travis, who do you got yours as your

913
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,119
next next pitch here? And you
know, if you want to set this

914
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,840
pitch up, you can set up
with like a storyline or a level,

915
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:02,079
or like a villain or how they
integrate. You can you can set up

916
00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:06,280
however you want. It wasn't a
pitch as far as I don't even know.

917
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:07,800
This is more a throat because not
the one that I would want,

918
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,679
but just because she's gone more pop
in the past few years. And if

919
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,239
you didn't because to me, it's
my argument against mystique. But like I

920
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:22,320
thought about someone like Domino. Would
that be someone that'd be because I feel

921
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,880
like they would if they're doing an
Alliance game, you probably would have multiple

922
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,320
like mystique. And again, this
isn't gonna pitch for me saying oh I

923
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,599
would lock her, I'm thrown out
there, Like what do you guys think

924
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:34,199
about Domino the luck powers? Even
you know, I know I was thinking

925
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:37,719
about pitching her. You could do
something like just certain attacks like a percentage

926
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:44,400
just miss her or something like you
could definitely play with that luck stat in

927
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,599
like a dodge sense or maybe just
more critical hit or something critical hits.

928
00:56:47,679 --> 00:56:52,880
Yeah, Like, oh yeah you
could. But at the end of the

929
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,440
day, she would very much fit
into that mercenary play style where you just

930
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,320
have like guns and grenades and stuff, which is fine. Like, I

931
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,920
think it's definitely to have a character
like that on this roster. We were

932
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:08,239
pretty hesitant to get Deadpool on there, but because she is very unique and

933
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:13,480
I feel like if they do really
hit with that luckstat, I think that

934
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:15,320
could make the character like one of
the best characters in the game. But

935
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:22,039
it's tricky to make that balanced as
well as unique. Yeah, for me,

936
00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:28,320
I think I think i'd prefer mystique
in that slot in my in my

937
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,400
opinion of like the female kind of
like femtale like assassin type character, like

938
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,760
a like the Black Widow pick from
Ultimate Alliance something like that. I think

939
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,320
I'd prefer to have a mistique in
there for the relevance of the character and

940
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,360
that she hasn't been in one of
these before. I mean, Domino's never

941
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,239
been in them before either. I
think if I maybe had more perspective of

942
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:52,920
Domino other than just like what she's
like in Deadpool too. But yeah,

943
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,840
I think there is some cool ideas
there for turning her luck into like that

944
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,039
is a very video gamey type of
thing, and you could make that happen.

945
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:05,760
But yeah, I'm definitely She's definitely
on a lock for me. Should

946
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:12,320
be a contender, though I think
the same. I got another pitch,

947
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,880
go for it. What about another
tank character, someone that was incredibly op

948
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:22,800
and Marvel snapp recently we got the
Blob pure tank. See, he did

949
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,599
it, he literally did it.
His first pick. He said no to

950
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:30,000
Juggernaut and his first pick is a
villain Juggernaut. I don't think it's like

951
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,239
when I think of a main boss
battle, I'm not thinking of the Blob,

952
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,440
I'm thinking of someone like the Juggernaut. Just I don't know. I

953
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,239
don't know why my brain looks that
way, but that's just it just seems

954
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,159
like a totally different category. But
I don't know. Maybe Dylan maybe is

955
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,599
impartial. So I think I think
Blob could have a fun move set.

956
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:50,840
I think for me, he has
like the Ridley and Smash Bros. Problem

957
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:55,280
where I think he's too big to
fit in like the realm of like how

958
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,159
big these characters should be relative to
each other, and you know in these

959
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:01,480
games, some characters are like naturally
bigger than others. Blob I think has

960
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:04,920
to be massive, and I think
if you shrink them down to be on

961
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,679
that little like circle that your player
your player selector thing is on, I

962
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,119
don't think it would work. And
for me, he'd be a very fun

963
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:17,000
boss fight where he's bouncing shots off, he's flinging you back, he's rolling

964
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,840
around like he makes a perfect boss
fight, and I definitely want him in

965
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,559
the game, but I don't.
I don't. I think I much prefer

966
00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:28,920
Juggernaut. If if we're looking at
those two as like comparable kind of power

967
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:37,039
types. That's why Travis you.
You are just a noo strongly against no

968
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:42,679
Blob. No Juggernaut's getting to know
no Blob. I can see the pitch

969
00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:46,599
no no, no, I can
see the pitchok game of Steak versus Domino,

970
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,880
you know, but like Blobs,
Juggernaut, no jug like I just

971
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:55,639
Juggernaut. I think, is BLOB's
like good for a lego one? I

972
00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:59,239
think for this one? No,
I need Juggie in there. So,

973
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,800
uh, what do you guys think
about? This character has been more relevant

974
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,159
recently, probably would have been a
deep cut before Deadpool, but negasonic teenage

975
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:15,320
warhead exploding type character. Yeah,
I just wonder. It's like, is

976
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:20,000
there enough to make that character interesting
the sense of playing as at all time?

977
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,199
And I feel like there's two versions
of a yes and a version of

978
01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:30,199
not at all. So I'm I'm
mixed on that one. I I'm gonna

979
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:34,960
give it a lock, oh super
hard solid lock. But I feel like

980
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,280
I would I would it would.
I feel like I would pass it right

981
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:43,199
here, just because the explosive aspect, Like we do have characters with blasts

982
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,719
or range attacks, but I feel
like hers would be a lot more like

983
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:52,360
it feels like a close proximity explosion
sort of thing, and like maybe just

984
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,000
she could have. I feel like, I feel like I can picture some

985
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:59,480
really wonderful combos with her attacks too, like a couple of lights into like

986
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:04,159
a big the like explosion that has
a larger range. And it's just a

987
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:07,280
character that really hasn't been in anything
like too much other than at least for

988
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,280
me, like Deadpool. So I
feel like I would love to see her

989
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:15,280
inclusion into there you know you got
you got a fresh face, as well

990
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,920
as some cool moves that I don't
think too many characters really replicate, even

991
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,840
though we do have ranged and other
blasters, I feel like hers is different.

992
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,559
Yeah, Like I think her move
set would be quite different from the

993
01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:31,599
Sun sun Spot character, for example, in terms of fire types. For

994
01:01:31,639 --> 01:01:36,119
example, like another different range she
could do have like attack where she like

995
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:37,840
jumps in the air and like crash
it into the ground like shoots out a

996
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,639
bunch of debris. She could have
like a one where she like runs and

997
01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:45,800
rams into people and kind of explodes
explodes on the spot. Her fists could

998
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,639
be like little explosions or something.
So I think I think it could make

999
01:01:49,679 --> 01:01:52,000
for a fun move set. So
it sounds like between the three of us,

1000
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,360
she'd probably said as a contender right
now, But I think it'd be

1001
01:01:54,360 --> 01:02:01,159
a fun pick, especially post post
Deadpool. She's cool cardon Marvel Snap too,

1002
01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:06,519
So show us to that, Travis, you got another one you want

1003
01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:08,000
to picture? You said you want
some kookie characters. I feel like,

1004
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:12,239
let's throw on Dazzler, a character
whose powers are they can sing. I

1005
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,840
feel like that could be lots of
fun. That would be a character that

1006
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,039
would get announced like, oh,
really Dazzler, but then would be like

1007
01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:21,039
a low key like, oh,
actually, she's pretty fun, like all

1008
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:23,199
the all the attacks are you can
just do the singing and stuff. So

1009
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:28,320
that sits it right there. I
think her fun special tacks be good combo

1010
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:34,440
tax outfits. So I feel like
Dazzler would be a low key favorite character.

1011
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:36,840
So yeah, and I think it's
just like if we're looking for new

1012
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,599
blood in there. Hopefully Tay Swift
is playing her in the movie. That

1013
01:02:38,599 --> 01:02:44,920
could help get that profile voice the
game of forus paying that that's original music.

1014
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,280
Yeah, but no, I just
think Tumble because like someone like Toad's

1015
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,320
like, yeah, that could be
a fun, kooky character. He's been

1016
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,760
in. I know he's on the
bench but I was trying to think of

1017
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,119
other ones, and to me,
Dazzler that's one where I thing, Okay,

1018
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,360
we could have some you could have
some fun with that, and that

1019
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,480
would be one where it's like when
we talk, oh there's like Bishop and

1020
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:05,679
Cable and blobbing Juggernart's like Dazzer's dazz
Or. Of course it's gonna be similar

1021
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,199
to like mine projectile and stuff,
but the design that character you're not gonna

1022
01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:13,280
have like, oh, here's the
other singing character. So yeah, again,

1023
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,559
could also have the opportunity just to
suck ass, but I would want

1024
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:20,079
to see them try, so Dazzer
would be my next pitch. I would

1025
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:24,559
definitely back Dazzler. I feel like
for me to picture her her play style,

1026
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:30,039
it'd be a very heavy support character. I don't really know how she

1027
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,760
works in the comics or and like
we just saw her looking up with Scott

1028
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,920
in the animated series, so kind
of limited in her her powers there.

1029
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,719
But uh, you know, playing
MOBA's especially some of like Legal Legends,

1030
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,320
there's like multiple support characters that are
literally just singers. They just boost their

1031
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:52,360
team, and I just definitely have
seen that translate well and like great stunts

1032
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,559
like CC on other other characters like
with you said, with just her singing

1033
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,840
just enthralls people to like, I
don't know, I don't know what,

1034
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:02,960
but that's just what I'm picturing.
So for that reason, I would definitely

1035
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:08,559
back here. Yeah. I mean, my favorite character in All the Liance

1036
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:12,679
Too is a great songbird, and
I feel like, I think this is

1037
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:15,639
a very similar type of move set, So I think this would be very

1038
01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:17,719
fun. And I'm absolutely down on
the walk training for that. So it

1039
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:25,199
sounds like Dazzler officially making an inswer. Congratulations to Dazzler. Where do we

1040
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:27,880
want to go next? How about? Okay, here's here's a pitch for

1041
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,239
you guys. I don't know how
that's gonna go. But I was looking

1042
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,880
through some of the locations and levels
from the first two X Men Legends games,

1043
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:36,880
so of course there's like, you
know, you got the more locked

1044
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:43,000
tunnels, you got Mewor Island,
you got Asteroid m astral Plane, some

1045
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,800
of these types of areas. But
you know where we've never been before is

1046
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,360
the Savage Land. I desperately somewhere
else. I desperately want a level in

1047
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:55,119
the Savage Land. And if you're
gonna go there, you need at least

1048
01:04:55,559 --> 01:05:00,519
one character playable from that zone.
So I kind of have two two pitches

1049
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:04,559
here. One is sore on I
knew you're going sorrow and the green fucking

1050
01:05:04,639 --> 01:05:11,159
tared Actyl guy. Or I was
thinking Kazar and Zabu would be a really

1051
01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:14,559
fun kind of how Grout and Rocket
are combined character open lines three. I

1052
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:15,960
think it'd be the same thing where
you have Kazar and he would like send

1053
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,480
out Zabu as like a to go
attack people or something, or he could

1054
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:24,639
ride on Zabu as well. I
think it'd be a fun combo character.

1055
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,559
So what do you guys think about
those two picks? Hell, yeah,

1056
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:31,039
for Kasar and Sabi whatever, I
always fuck of his name, But then

1057
01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:38,119
not a chance for sorrow. I
feel like that's a fun can be as

1058
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,440
fight. Then are you okay?
Yeah, sure, he'd be a boss

1059
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,639
battle. I think that'd be cool
if like he's flying out a time your

1060
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,159
tax. But no, I just
don't. I don't think there's enough,

1061
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:48,599
especially because half the stuff is like
he's mind controlling and no, I think

1062
01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:51,440
he's a good boss battles. No
for him, Yes for the other.

1063
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:54,599
Yeah, the other'd be a lot
because that fits him more too, if

1064
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:57,400
like, if anyone wants some more
brawler characters, you can kind of fit

1065
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,599
that in a little bit too.
So I'm a hard lock on Kazar and

1066
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:06,559
Zabu. I like what you pitch. They're very like I feel like,

1067
01:06:06,679 --> 01:06:11,320
I don't want to say forgotten character, but like probably for the main people

1068
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,320
for sure. Yeah, but especially
just the dual character combo is always fun

1069
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,320
and interesting, something very unique from
other characters. It makes someone like Kazar,

1070
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,719
who's just a dude that's jacked and
like wears a loincloth, so much

1071
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:27,840
more interesting by having oh yeah,
you hear like a spear. You know,

1072
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,920
you can give him some weapons and
stuff too. With Sauron, I

1073
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,119
feel like I could definitely see it
inclusion in the game if anything, would

1074
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:39,440
probably be a late thirties pick.
So thirty five, thirty six character on

1075
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,920
the ross. That's just where I
picture his little image on my screen of

1076
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:48,719
visualizing, because it's it's similar to
what is it, Ripley from Smash Like

1077
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:56,320
that's Ridley's sorry. So I feel
like I could see it played and it's

1078
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,079
just a beat him up game,
especially if you have like the stunt effect.

1079
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:02,239
Like I definitely see it being playable, but I don't know, it's

1080
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:08,119
just it's more so a villain.
I think right now for me visualizing that,

1081
01:07:08,119 --> 01:07:12,800
that's that's fair. I'll accept that. And you guys remember Garrock or

1082
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,119
whatever his name is, the giant
Rock guy from Extra Animated. He could

1083
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,119
be another good boss fight. Not
not one of our favorite episodes or characters,

1084
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:20,360
but I think he'd be a fun
boss fight in one of these types

1085
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:26,559
of games. Yeah, who's gotten
another one here? I was thinking about.

1086
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,400
I don't really know exactly the move
set, but I think it would

1087
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,239
be another character that's just very different
from everyone else. Is someone like multiple

1088
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:40,840
men. May maybe you have like
just different clones of yourself, like like

1089
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,559
all like when you do attacks,
like they basically mimic what you're doing,

1090
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:47,239
and then they they can die like
really easily by by other characters, but

1091
01:07:47,239 --> 01:07:51,480
it's it's kind of tanking them for
you too. I don't know how many

1092
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:55,719
multiple versions of yourself you can make. I think you could also do it

1093
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,840
smaller scale of I don't know,
like you just have one version of yourself

1094
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:03,159
you can kind of combo and move
with or something like that. But I

1095
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:08,079
would love to see that implemented but
it's just so tricky with with how many

1096
01:08:08,159 --> 01:08:12,239
like what's the limitations on how many
versions you can have or how on a

1097
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:16,079
Nintendo Switch, probably like three,
but yeah Xbox or PlayStation like one hundred.

1098
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,960
Like an RTS game essentially, that'd
be great. You just get Maltiman,

1099
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:28,439
who's your clan? That one's a
lock for me because just because I'd

1100
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,800
want to be like the Quicksilver thing
of like, hey, show me what

1101
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,399
you got, like, let's see
if this can work, and if it

1102
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:34,560
doesn't then we know. But I
think if you make it work could be

1103
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,239
very cool. Maybe those multiplemen just
bust out of the shields, you can

1104
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:41,800
use them for the finish. It
could just be stuff like when you go

1105
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,159
to punch, you get like multiple
like hands coming out and stuff. So

1106
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,840
that for me is a lot just
for the versatility of it. I don't

1107
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,439
think it would ever happen, but
for me of what I would want to

1108
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,560
see, Yes, I I really
like to pick too. I think it's

1109
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,239
fun and I am yeah, I'm
also struggling to picture the move set exactly,

1110
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,279
but I think to some extent that
is a good thing for a game

1111
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:04,000
like this, right, and it's
good to not have such an obvious move

1112
01:09:04,079 --> 01:09:08,279
set and instead to see what kind
of crazy creative stuff they come up with.

1113
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:13,000
I would want to maybe put them
in contender right now for me personally.

1114
01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:16,159
So Kirkland, you pitched him,
but you stunded the Navy on so

1115
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:18,920
so, so if you're feeling towards
the Locks side, then we might as

1116
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:24,359
well just lock them. But I
again, it comes down to the picturing

1117
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,479
of the powers I think for right
now. So I'm I'm I'm okay with

1118
01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:32,479
just putting them on the bench right
now in the contender slot. Just I

1119
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,000
don't know. I just feel like
there might be some other ones that pop

1120
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:39,760
up, and I feel a lout
stronger with the locks. Sounds good,

1121
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,079
Travis, you got another one.
The only like I said, I don't

1122
01:09:44,079 --> 01:09:46,199
know if yoursire or not, but
the only three that I have left are

1123
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:48,800
pure villain, So this one's gonna
be a wild pick. I. They

1124
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:54,119
don't get shot down, but it's
a classic X Men villain. You'd have

1125
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:57,239
to do almost look at Dylan said
with the Blob. But you know what

1126
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,640
they got IRONMN in there, throw
a set and in there. Now,

1127
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,039
there have to be some storyline where
it's like, oh, it's a mini

1128
01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:05,840
human one in Da Da Da.
But I just feel like the setnels are

1129
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:10,119
never in a position where you can
play as them. They are such a

1130
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:13,840
key thing to the X Men.
So maybe they find one, they reroute

1131
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,560
it, and again, does someone
play like that an x Men? I

1132
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,039
don't know, and I don't even
know if I'm a strong lock on it,

1133
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:20,279
and it's not one where I have
to see, but I think there

1134
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:24,319
could be something fun if you could
give it even the height of like a

1135
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,880
Venom or Hulk and have it as
a bigger tank your character in some sort

1136
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,399
of because at first I thought Master
Mold, but no too big Master,

1137
01:10:31,279 --> 01:10:34,199
Yeah, he's got to be big. So that was my pitch and like,

1138
01:10:34,359 --> 01:10:36,920
that's right, I wond or two
if not they would they'd ever go

1139
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,520
back to the old games. But
like I said, like oh they did

1140
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,279
iron Man. It's like, oh, well, it's an iron Man equivalent

1141
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,239
character in there. So that's my
kind of last off the wall pick I

1142
01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:50,199
have too, So I like weird
picks, and so I like, you're

1143
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:55,319
coming up with some freaky ones here. And I didn't think about it.

1144
01:10:55,319 --> 01:10:57,560
I didn't even write it on my
list, and I wrote tons and tons

1145
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,640
of characters. But I but I
like it. I the more I think

1146
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,520
about it, the more I I
kind of want to see it. Yeah,

1147
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:08,359
it might be weird to have like
a mini Sentinel because especially once again

1148
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,279
just playing X Men or Ultimate Lines
three yesterday, like the Sentinels are freaking

1149
01:11:12,359 --> 01:11:14,439
huge in that game that you battle, and there's even like a bigger,

1150
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,560
one massive one, you know,
but I think they're a freaking robot.

1151
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,560
They're made in no labs. You
can just make a smaller one, Like

1152
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,399
it's more believable than like a small
blob to me. So hey, that's

1153
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:26,880
the finish. They get big and
you just see a big foot come in

1154
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,279
and stomp an enemy area and then
he goes back to his small size or

1155
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:31,560
something. And yeah, that could
be like a really fun part of the

1156
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:36,159
move set where there's like an endless
part to where you could just send one

1157
01:11:36,159 --> 01:11:41,439
in as like a suicide bomber essentially
and then you just like get a new

1158
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,000
one that spawns in for you.
Or they could be like modulating their arms

1159
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,760
in some ways to get different attachments
and stuff and characters like I can't believe

1160
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,279
we're teaming with this set, you
know, like you can have all those

1161
01:11:53,319 --> 01:11:57,560
like hating on this one thing,
and yeah, like one of Wolverine's power

1162
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,119
moves could be just like sniping one
of their heads off and like using it

1163
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:03,880
as like a basketball like smash some
opponent from afar. I think that could

1164
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,920
be really fun. I was super
hard against it until you guy started talking

1165
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,319
about the move sets and stuff,
and I think that's really fun. I

1166
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:15,319
do want to try it because it
reminds me there's Dragon Ball Z game that

1167
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,319
had the cybermen in them, when
we're basically just like little alien creatures that

1168
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:20,840
would just like die and then you
would just get like a shit ton of

1169
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:25,920
them. Like that would be like
the difference from the main characters that like

1170
01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:29,000
the strength in numbers is more so, but like, how do you implement

1171
01:12:29,039 --> 01:12:31,560
that in just a single unit?
And I feel like what you said to

1172
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,159
have like just the suicide bomber that
goes in and then executes and then you

1173
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:40,039
just spawned on another one in or
whatever it is. So I think I'm

1174
01:12:40,039 --> 01:12:42,880
with you, guys. I think
I think I like how different it is.

1175
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,640
I like how I switched completely one
ad because as soon as Travis was

1176
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,079
pitching it, when you're like still
talking I'm like, as soon as he

1177
01:12:48,119 --> 01:12:53,760
stops talking, I'm just gonna shoo
him down. There's nothing but you won

1178
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,960
me over. It's a good job
over. And if you pick no one

1179
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,079
would be expecting and it would be
that pick that everyone be pissed about and

1180
01:13:00,119 --> 01:13:01,239
then hopefully it's good be like,
okay it was. That would have been

1181
01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:04,600
like a Lake game like Secret Unlock
too, you have to do some crazy

1182
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:14,159
weird challenge level to the game under
three hours. I've always loved Havoc as

1183
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:17,840
a character, or at least his
powers. I think are just cool and

1184
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,079
fun and I think they would make
for a pretty solid X Men roster.

1185
01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:24,079
I think he has a really cool
look too, so I just like to

1186
01:13:24,079 --> 01:13:26,920
see his different costumes and whatnot.
I don't really know anything about the guy

1187
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,720
in terms of character, personality,
story. Well there you go. There,

1188
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,119
that's a that's a that's an in
rate there. But yeah, I

1189
01:13:33,159 --> 01:13:36,199
think Havoc is is really interesting.
Now, maybe maybe he is, now

1190
01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:39,880
that you mentioned Cyclops, maybe he's
a little too similar to that kind of

1191
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,880
move set in terms of shooting beams
out. But I think he's got a

1192
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,479
distinct different sort of look. How
do you guys feel about Havoc he does

1193
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,720
in the powers. I'm right now
on a contender. I'm not an insult,

1194
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,920
but I'm not an instant shoot away. I think you just have to

1195
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,960
find a way to make sure it
is different than Claus. But the good

1196
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,520
thing is like he's always shooting it
from his body and you can do different

1197
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,920
projectiles and stuff. So I'm a
contender on him. That's where I am

1198
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,560
middle ground. I'd be contender as
well right now. I could be swayed,

1199
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:10,199
but not yet. Yeah, I
gotta see the lineup. That's now

1200
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,680
the question now, like, Okay, who's he up again? Because if

1201
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,039
there's a characters that have different powers, that's where I might lean to h

1202
01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:20,760
I might want this type of character
where Cyclops you could just incorporate some Havocs

1203
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:26,279
moves there. Right, So yeah, yeah, we're right now at twenty

1204
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,199
three characters locked and then we have
fifteen in the contenders category, so we're

1205
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,560
yeah, we have a good amount. But yeah, let's let's get the

1206
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,399
rest of them in there that are
contenders and whatnot. So what else you

1207
01:14:39,399 --> 01:14:42,720
got, Kirklen? Did we What
was our decision on next twenty three?

1208
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,399
Laura, she's a contender right now. Okay, I was just thinking of

1209
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:51,439
some more logan sort of centered characters. I feel like, because he's such

1210
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:56,399
a main character of the roster,
you could definitely have like a good chapter

1211
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,399
of the game, not like the
whole game, but like just a chapter

1212
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:05,560
like level focusing on more of his
something related to him a character. So

1213
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,199
I'm gonna pitch too here. I
feel like one could get shot down really

1214
01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:13,880
right, like just really quickly.
Maybe it's similar to Travis's aspect, but

1215
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,560
really cool look always gets done dirty
and every single version that I've seen this

1216
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:23,079
character in, but I would love
to just see them on the Ross because

1217
01:15:23,079 --> 01:15:27,600
it looks very different. I'm gonna
pitch silver Samurai. Oh okay, it

1218
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,640
is a villain, I understand that, but like just very I feel like

1219
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,479
the Samurai look is just so appealing, especially when you just silver them up.

1220
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:40,159
You can make those those colors contrasts
just really pop on a on a

1221
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:43,159
game where you just have a bunch
of different characters fighting, I feel like

1222
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:47,920
it would stand out really well.
Obviously, the sword speaks for itself,

1223
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,479
but you could also like what other
powers does he have? You can kind

1224
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,800
of you can kind of like go
invisible or like disappear right, like that

1225
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,359
happened a couple of times. Not
region powers, but something similar with a

1226
01:15:58,399 --> 01:16:02,119
suit that he's absorbing thing. He
is one of those where it's like fifteen

1227
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:05,840
different powers of all variations of stuff. So probably high stamina, you know.

1228
01:16:06,039 --> 01:16:11,600
Yeah, what was the second one? Second one I have is Lady

1229
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:16,319
death Strike. Yeah, very specific
like her look from the animated series.

1230
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,800
I think it's just it's it looks
so different, even though she has like

1231
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:25,039
adamantium clause it, she just seems
so different than a character like Logan or

1232
01:16:25,039 --> 01:16:30,600
even Laura because of that look.
Again, like it would be I guess

1233
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,119
she is a villain as well,
but like it would be tied to kind

1234
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:38,159
of that chapter. I maybe that's
real unlock her, but center around Logan

1235
01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:41,640
and just that aspect. But yeah, I don't know. She's she's kind

1236
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,000
of snubbed when it comes to other
games, like she's never made an appearance

1237
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:50,800
to my knowledge, but it seems
like a good DPS female character fem fatale

1238
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:57,600
I really like to pick. I
would go Death Strike over Samurai for me

1239
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,239
personally, but I also think i'd
go at twenty three and Sabertooth before her

1240
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,560
and those are contenders right now.
I just I just don't know if we

1241
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:09,439
have enough room for for all these
characters, but definitely as a boss fight

1242
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,279
for her Samurai, I just don't
think there's room for it. But I

1243
01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:14,720
think it would be fun to have
him in there as well. Fair enough,

1244
01:17:15,319 --> 01:17:17,439
I'm a I'm the other way around, A lock on Samurai. What

1245
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,840
push death Strike to this side just
because the other two? Just because Silver

1246
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:25,159
Samurai again would be I think some
of the Sentinels where it's just would be

1247
01:17:25,279 --> 01:17:29,560
Anne Dazzer like a very distinct character. You could almost make him tanky.

1248
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,960
Look, he also has a teleportation
ring, so you can tap into some

1249
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:35,800
of those Nightcrawler things. So I
guess for me because there's a lot of

1250
01:17:36,119 --> 01:17:39,920
X Men villains, but as I
was making this list, like I know

1251
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,039
he might come up, but I'll
just say him here like mister Sinister,

1252
01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:44,640
for me, it's not someone i'd
want because like for me, he's not

1253
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:45,800
like a fighting character, and the
X Men have like a lot of those

1254
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:50,479
type of villains like Sebastian Shaw or
like Cassandra Nova, like Xavier's sister has

1255
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,640
teleportation or you know, Telekenesis.
It's like they have a lot of great

1256
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:59,520
villains or like Mojo right where it's
like he's great, but like I couldn't

1257
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,359
see him. We're Silver Samurai has
won the few villains I could see.

1258
01:18:01,399 --> 01:18:04,720
I could see Lady Deft Strike,
but I'm like Dylan where I'd prefer saber

1259
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:10,760
Tooth or I'd prefer X twenty three
or Silver Samara. Silver Samurai would be

1260
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,319
unique and it would be a villain
that's actually a fighter. So that's where

1261
01:18:14,359 --> 01:18:16,039
I am on that one. So
I'm not sure if that makes some contender,

1262
01:18:16,079 --> 01:18:24,199
but I would be down for Silver
Samurai right probably just pop put them

1263
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:28,600
all on the contender list right now. I feel like since you first pitched

1264
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,039
him as well, someone like saber
Tooth has actually grown up a lot on

1265
01:18:31,119 --> 01:18:39,359
me. He's grown on my list
of higher contenders just because it is a

1266
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,079
very iconic character. And although I
said like it kind of reminds me of

1267
01:18:43,119 --> 01:18:45,279
just a similar brawler, I think
there's nothing wrong with that, and he

1268
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,239
definitely could play. He could probably
be beefier and like chunkier than someone like

1269
01:18:49,279 --> 01:18:55,279
Logan. Maybe not his nimble,
but hit harder. I know we're kind

1270
01:18:55,279 --> 01:18:58,359
of talking about the other characters,
but just just trying to spit out where

1271
01:18:58,399 --> 01:19:01,399
my priorities and focus are on some
of these characters that we talked about already.

1272
01:19:02,119 --> 01:19:06,640
Yeah, Travis, I think you
had one more uson. I well,

1273
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,239
I guess too, But did we
did we put contender for Omega Red

1274
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:14,439
because that was just one of two. So if you okay for me,

1275
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:19,119
it's like, if we're all locked
on a Mega yeah this is our dream

1276
01:19:19,159 --> 01:19:24,560
game, then Omega Red. Those
tentacles, the look everything, and even

1277
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,560
if you have DLC, you could
do a weapon X pack right, like

1278
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,920
a weapon x DALC where you get
him saber two floor whoever. Right.

1279
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,119
The other one I think is the
obvious one that I think would be a

1280
01:19:34,119 --> 01:19:38,680
lot, but maybe I'm wrong.
It's the fanals of the X Men Apocalypse.

1281
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,520
I feel like everybody would be just
the same way. All the build

1282
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,720
up to Ultimate Alliance three, We're
like, man, I just hope they

1283
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,439
make fantals playable. I hope make
fantas playable. I think apococalyipse would have

1284
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,399
that same uproar from the crowd of
like, oh, this could be our

1285
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,720
chance to play as Apocalypse. So
and a good thing with him, with

1286
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,600
him getting different sizes, he can
be down to the size of the X

1287
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,680
Men. So so I think lots
of big power sets. He's another tank

1288
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,000
character. He has other just like
projectiles and stuff. I think, like

1289
01:20:06,199 --> 01:20:11,680
just think Fanos in m U A
three, That's what I'd want Apocalypse here,

1290
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,399
So that's my last one. But
for me, I think he's install

1291
01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:16,560
loc. You gotta put him in
there. I think you got it.

1292
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,199
I think you gotta put him in
there as well as and you would really

1293
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:27,399
have to deliver with how Thanos or
Magneto or Doom felt like in Ultimate Alliance,

1294
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,800
like how they felt just so powerful. I feel like you really have

1295
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,319
to deliver with a character like that. Yeah, I mean I think him

1296
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,960
enhancing your other characters' powers too,
Like not only does he have a strong

1297
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,359
move set, but if you have
him in your group before get Yeah,

1298
01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:44,000
he gives everyone a new ability that
might be too much ask but even just

1299
01:20:44,039 --> 01:20:47,399
like boosted stats like additional effects,
is Ultimate just changes like a like an

1300
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:51,119
Apocalypse version, like a Horseman version
of all the so cool. I don't

1301
01:20:51,119 --> 01:20:54,439
know if you could do because if
you have thirty six, but I wouldn't

1302
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,359
see that the realm possibility if you
had Apocalypse in the Game of a Villain

1303
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,720
if everyone had like a variant skin
Apocalypse Horsemen color right, Like you don't

1304
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,359
want to go full like the way
Angels a big makeover, You don't got

1305
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:09,560
to do that, but you could
easily make every character have some minor costume

1306
01:21:10,079 --> 01:21:13,000
like that, or even for like
a handful of them, and then like

1307
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,039
whenever you unlock him in some specific
mission, like you have a set roster

1308
01:21:16,119 --> 01:21:18,600
of characters that all kind of get
enhanced in that moment, so it kind

1309
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,960
of shows shows it off in some
way. Think about what random costumes though,

1310
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,840
Marvel Alton lines three head near the
end when we were doing like the

1311
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,439
Infinity rounds whatever they called were where
you would like fight people and people they

1312
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,520
didn't have you can customize the color, right, was there something like that?

1313
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,359
Or an Ultimates three, like each
character had one separate costume and then

1314
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,279
they had a separate color swap for
their default costume in their second one,

1315
01:21:42,279 --> 01:21:45,399
but you couldn't change like the custom
color. It was just one. Like

1316
01:21:45,399 --> 01:21:47,520
if they did that, why didn't
they just have like ten for each if

1317
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,199
they were just gonna be a color
change. But they can even do that

1318
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:54,680
where there's an apocalypse color right,
and you throw on that boost and then

1319
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,880
everyone gets that black and purple,
the blue and purple, and then boom

1320
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:04,039
your apocalypse Horseman night. You know, mm hmmm hm cool. Uh sorry,

1321
01:22:04,119 --> 01:22:08,000
Kirkland, you agreed with the lock
on apocalypse? Yeah? Oh yeah,

1322
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:11,039
definitely lock him in there. Kirkland, did you have other any others

1323
01:22:11,079 --> 01:22:15,640
on your list here? Uh?
I think mine are mostly just quick fire,

1324
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,800
and then I have a couple that
I might pitch. At this point,

1325
01:22:18,039 --> 01:22:23,319
I hit a couple that I thought
were probably weak, but I wanted

1326
01:22:23,319 --> 01:22:25,880
to mention them. Uh. You
know, this is our dream roster.

1327
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,560
We're Canadian. I was thinking about
the leader of Alpha Flight. We got

1328
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,279
Guardian in there with the great maple
Leaf. His powers are pretty meek.

1329
01:22:31,319 --> 01:22:34,159
They just come from his his suit. From what I've I was looking up.

1330
01:22:34,319 --> 01:22:43,399
Uh, you know in hand Speed
Strength D The look is just so

1331
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,439
it's so great that I wanted to
be fun to battle them. I I

1332
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,920
thought about Alpha Flight and I was
like, I I'd rather have Polaris and

1333
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:55,600
I think she's cool or Sasquatch like
two. I don't even think sasquatches like

1334
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,880
for people like we've put on the
roster. I think Sasquatch could have a

1335
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,479
chance if it's a real and they
were getting broad to have another beefy character,

1336
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,520
but he's the one I think that
would make it, and I think

1337
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:11,439
it's the only one that i'd bet
get into. So yeah. The other

1338
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,680
one that I was meant or thinking
of is someone like Cloak. I think

1339
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,960
it was the character. Was that
the one that was in the Morlocks where

1340
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:25,479
they could like teleport, like I
can't remember, Yeah, they can teleport?

1341
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,640
Yeah, and but was it were
they the Morlocks? I don't think

1342
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,600
that's the same character though, Okay, right, I was thinking of a

1343
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,079
character that can like teleport people.
I know Cloak can do that. Well

1344
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,600
that yeah, Marvel Snap. Yeah, I don't think it's this exact same

1345
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,680
one. But yeah, there's a
Coke and day or and then Yeah,

1346
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,840
I was trying to think of a
character like that. Like, we do

1347
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,359
have a lot of teleports already,
so it kind of sunk to the bottom

1348
01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:47,119
of my list, but it was
still someone I was wanting to mention.

1349
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,640
I'll bring this up. Then I
have another teleporter. There's a character I

1350
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,279
only know from one film, but
I thought she was so fucking cool and

1351
01:23:55,399 --> 01:24:00,560
Days of Future Past is Blink.
Oh, I don't even know what her

1352
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,680
powers are. I think she's just
teleporter, like she opens the portals.

1353
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,840
But I always thought she had like
the coolest look. Definitely wanted her to

1354
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,960
come back at some point. She's
not come back. She only had like

1355
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,560
that small role. Never seen her
in any other game or anything ever.

1356
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,359
But I think Blink is super cool. So I don't know she could make

1357
01:24:15,399 --> 01:24:18,520
She could make sense as like a
story one of like explaining how you get

1358
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:23,720
to and from certain locations. But
if it was my personal thirty six,

1359
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:29,279
she would make my thirty six.
Yeah, I don't think so for me.

1360
01:24:29,399 --> 01:24:30,920
I just don't know what she could
do with her like that'd be that'd

1361
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,399
be tough. That's a tough one. Yeah. I think like her main

1362
01:24:35,119 --> 01:24:39,359
thing too, is like too similar
to some other powers that we've that we

1363
01:24:39,399 --> 01:24:44,880
have for characters. Obviously it's you
know, the Bandfiinge from from Night Crawler,

1364
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,119
and then like if we were gonna
do well, we have magic on

1365
01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:51,560
the list, but like similar type
of teleportation effect might be too similar there,

1366
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,880
But good shout out because I completely
forgot about that character actually, and

1367
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,439
I thought she was really cool on
the Days of Future passes really well.

1368
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,520
Definitely forgettable. Yeah, uh Kirkham, Sorry, do you have any other

1369
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:05,159
any other last show? Uh?
No, I think we think we got

1370
01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:10,640
all the main ones. Yeah,
I think. Okay, here's my like

1371
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,399
super super deep cut. I can't
even remember his name from X Men Animated.

1372
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,279
It wasn't that sequence when Psychlops is
like flying his playing he's like on

1373
01:25:17,319 --> 01:25:20,159
his own and he like crashes in
like the desert randomly, and you remember,

1374
01:25:20,199 --> 01:25:24,520
like goes in that society of random
people and there's like the beaver guy

1375
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:29,399
or something that shoots him down.
Do you guys remember that episode? There

1376
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,960
was a one guy in that episode
who was like a rock dude and he

1377
01:25:32,039 --> 01:25:35,399
had like a little mini rock dude
and he would like throw the little rock

1378
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:40,079
dude out, and like, I
want that freaking guy. I could not

1379
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:44,600
find his name by googling all sorts
of crazy stuff, but I love that

1380
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,319
guy. He was so cool.
I can't I can't give you that one.

1381
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:54,159
I don't even know his name.
So I wrote rock back guy.

1382
01:25:55,159 --> 01:26:00,920
Yeah, maybe what's what the name? Meet me? Oh no, that's

1383
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,800
the other one, Cork corek Maybe
you'll go get Cork and Ultimate lines four

1384
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:11,560
and be similar to that. Yeah, that's okay. What Deadpool to Shatterstar?

1385
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,479
Is that one guy who's coming up
in in Dedverlle like Deadpool and Wolverine

1386
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:23,199
or Zeitgeist is Bill Scarsguard's character.
You guys think about them, I'd say

1387
01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:26,760
no to both Shadows. Star could
have a maybe chance, but i'd say

1388
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,439
no to both of those guys.
Maybe maybe kind of similar to Toad right

1389
01:26:31,039 --> 01:26:34,279
in terms of power stuff. Yeah, i'd say maybe translucent that could be

1390
01:26:34,279 --> 01:26:40,399
fun. Mm hmmm hmm. Yeah, Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt, Yeah,

1391
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:45,960
mister Invisible or Vanisher Vanisher Vanish,
Yeah, I was, I was

1392
01:26:46,079 --> 01:26:49,520
thinking about the cosmic round, but
I don't. I didn't love that area

1393
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:54,640
of the X Men animates so much. But like a little Laundra or Corsair,

1394
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,319
I think if anyone the launder would
be interesting, but I don't.

1395
01:26:59,319 --> 01:27:02,960
I don't think I need picking Corsair. No one's picking even course, there

1396
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:08,600
two of the Morlocks that I really
loved in the show where I didn't even

1397
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,119
know this was her name. Tammy
is her name. She was like that

1398
01:27:11,239 --> 01:27:15,520
paper thin girl that would like she
had like the interesting like white pink and

1399
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,279
like yellow sort of color and she
would she could like turn two dimensional essentially,

1400
01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:21,600
like that could be an interesting move
set. I thought she'd be cool.

1401
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,399
Or I think his name is mask. I was trying to find this,

1402
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,680
But he's like the guy who would
like transform into like a giant donut

1403
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,920
or transformed all these like random shapes. You remember that guy would always be

1404
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,479
in the Morlocks. You love that
guy. Yeah, they were. They

1405
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,760
were very fun. They were very
fun. But I don't even know their

1406
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,079
names for certain, so I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna shout them out.

1407
01:27:42,199 --> 01:27:45,439
Banshee. We have Dazzler. I
think he kinda you know, it's kind

1408
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:51,439
of represented there morph. I was
wondering if anyone's gonna met even bring him

1409
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:55,479
up. No, but I want
him be in the game. Put him

1410
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,960
in the game but not playable die
level mission one. Is that the space

1411
01:28:00,079 --> 01:28:02,800
for him? I think it's so
similar to how I was pitching the mystique

1412
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,920
move sets for that character. I
think I like mystique more of a character,

1413
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,119
So if we're gonna have a shape
shifter, it would be mystique for

1414
01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:15,399
me. But like the shout out, I also like I definitely I desperately

1415
01:28:15,399 --> 01:28:19,439
want a Mojo vision section. In
this game a level, so I was

1416
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:24,039
thinking, like it should long Shot
be a character as like the character Unlock

1417
01:28:24,079 --> 01:28:26,960
in that level. But ultimately it's
like you don't need long Shot, Like

1418
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,520
you could just put them into crazy
scenarios, funny like alternate worlds and then

1419
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,439
have Mojo as the boss. But
like, I don't. I'm not gonna

1420
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,399
make love as much as I love
like character, I'm not gonna make a

1421
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:39,439
case for him playable. So those
can be a couple of shout outs.

1422
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:43,039
And then Travis mentioned this character and
not I want him on the list.

1423
01:28:43,159 --> 01:28:45,680
I really want mister Sinister on this
list. I think he would be super

1424
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:51,600
fun, different like beam type powers, the way he like just recombines himself

1425
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:57,520
when he's taken out, weird gene
splice and things that he's got going on.

1426
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,279
I don't know, I think he
could be. I think could be

1427
01:29:00,319 --> 01:29:02,399
a fun character at the very least
in there is a villain and you fight

1428
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,079
the dirty boys or the nasty boys
whatever they're called boys, that would be

1429
01:29:06,119 --> 01:29:11,239
a fun sequence. But I think
he would be a really fun villain on

1430
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,560
Lock And looking at our lists,
like I don't think we have I guess

1431
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,439
we have a few villains now,
so we don't necessarily need another one on

1432
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,840
the list, but I I would
really like to see a mister Sinistor makeing.

1433
01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:30,239
I really like the pick. The
cloning aspect is obviously something that I

1434
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:32,279
do find interesting. With my pitch
of like multiple Man, I feel like

1435
01:29:32,319 --> 01:29:38,800
Sinister would probably because it doesn't like
Multiple Man in my mind, is like

1436
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:44,520
a lot bigger scale of clones.
Mister Sinister could be, you know,

1437
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,319
maybe in that three max or whatever
it might be that the Intendo switch allows.

1438
01:29:49,119 --> 01:29:53,840
But also just like his move set, I feel like no matter what

1439
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,960
it could be, it would it
would work for me. Like if he

1440
01:29:57,039 --> 01:30:00,439
is able to take out light mobs, which is some light attacks, it

1441
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:05,479
would make sense just because he is, he looks dangerous and just those voice

1442
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:10,840
lines would be great to just like
have big combat when his little one liners

1443
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,960
with the team, Like I just
think it could be so great and just

1444
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,319
a fun character to play, teaming
up with Cyclops and Gene like that would

1445
01:30:16,319 --> 01:30:18,439
just be so funn oh yeah,
yeah, Like if you guys feel that

1446
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:23,039
strongly, I'm fine with locking him
because I know other ex fans would be

1447
01:30:23,079 --> 01:30:26,279
happy with it. I just worry
for your and this is a made up

1448
01:30:26,319 --> 01:30:29,000
world that it would be like your
Wanda Dylan where you'd be like, oh

1449
01:30:29,039 --> 01:30:30,319
man, I was looking so forward
to say. I just feel like that's

1450
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,880
it's a tough character to crack,
but I would be fine to lock him

1451
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:39,720
because of just his legacy and I'm
down for a lock cool. I love

1452
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:44,640
that. Yeah, Okay, I
think that's all the characters that we wanted

1453
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,560
to consider, So we have that. We have that part of it built,

1454
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,880
so now it's just about locking the
final thirty six. So how about

1455
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,520
we take our last break here,
catch our breath, and then we will

1456
01:30:53,720 --> 01:31:01,720
close this list off. Okay,
we are back for the last section of

1457
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:05,199
this list, so let's bring it
up on screen. Here. This is

1458
01:31:05,239 --> 01:31:09,359
our this is our short slash long
list. Here's who we have right now

1459
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:14,319
locked. We have Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, Colossus,

1460
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,079
Gambit, Jean Gray, Nightcrawler,
Rogue, Jubilee, Cable, Scarletwitch,

1461
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:21,800
Quicksilver, Magic, Magneto, Kittie, Pride, Sunspot, Silock,

1462
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,680
Angel, Dazzler, Kasarn Zabu As
one Character, Sentinel, Omega, Red

1463
01:31:28,319 --> 01:31:35,079
Apocalypse, and Mister Sinister. So
that puts us at twenty twenty six characters.

1464
01:31:35,079 --> 01:31:38,760
I guess, yeah, twenty six, so we have ten more.

1465
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,479
We have ten more slots from our
contenders. Do one of you want to

1466
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,760
read off this list of contenders that
we have here, Dark Phoenix say we're

1467
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,079
tooth X twenty three, Deadpool,
Professor x Mystique, Emma Frost, Pyro,

1468
01:31:49,279 --> 01:31:53,880
Bishop Forge, Juggernaut, Domino,
Negas, Sonic, Teenage Warhead,

1469
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:59,039
multiple Men, have a Lady Dastrich
and Silver Samurai for contenders. That's seventeen.

1470
01:31:59,199 --> 01:32:00,479
So if we want to look at
it that way, we just have

1471
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,880
to cut seven of those and then
we have it. We have a list.

1472
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:08,079
Unless there have any odd ball picks
that sneak in there. If this

1473
01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:10,920
game was announced like tomorrow, which
is the roster that we have, there's

1474
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,760
those twenty six, I would just
I would blow my mind like that is

1475
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,119
would be such a hype list right
there. Gys aren Zebu is one you

1476
01:32:17,159 --> 01:32:20,640
guys. I don't know if we're
starting with locks or whatever, but let's

1477
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,479
just find out where he is for
me. You look at this list.

1478
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,840
We have kaz Aar on there,
we have Sentinel, we have this list

1479
01:32:28,039 --> 01:32:31,359
and Xavier Professor Xavier the Leader Excellent
is not gonna be on here you can.

1480
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,960
And if we got Sinister, we
got Quicksilver, we have Dazz or

1481
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,199
other characters who've been like, oh, how could you do? This would

1482
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:42,560
be tricky Xavier, who's been in
a game already, Like I feel like

1483
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,640
now when we've reached the not the
bottom, but some of these characters,

1484
01:32:46,399 --> 01:32:51,399
I feel like Xavier should get a
spot on that final list. There we

1485
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:58,079
make a trade. Can we make
a trade? What's the trade? I

1486
01:32:58,119 --> 01:33:00,439
was just gonna say, I hear
you, But there's still like, looking

1487
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,319
at those lists right now, I
feel like there's so many contenders that are

1488
01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:06,319
like, wow, I'm surprised we
actually don't have them on that locklist already.

1489
01:33:06,399 --> 01:33:12,079
And Charles isn't one of them yet. Maybe he will be number one.

1490
01:33:12,279 --> 01:33:14,880
I mean I would have to make
a rank list. But my I

1491
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,680
was thinking, if you, if
you would cut Bishop, I would put

1492
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,159
Professor X up. I don't want
to do it for free, but that

1493
01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:23,960
would be my trade is if you're
okay to drop Bishop, I would cut

1494
01:33:24,079 --> 01:33:27,920
Bishop for acts. Yes, I
would. I mean I can't do it

1495
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,359
on my own, allow it.
I would allow that. Sorryshop, you're

1496
01:33:31,399 --> 01:33:38,439
officially gone, and Professor ax is
officially moved up boom. It's good to

1497
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:45,640
see six more. I think at
this point I would rather have more unique

1498
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:50,520
characters than having Dark Phoenix and Jean
Gray. I agree, Yeah, sure,

1499
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,520
yeah, I'll agree, So we'll
kick Dark Phoenix will say that you

1500
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,600
know her move set's incorporated in Jing
Gray in some way. Maybe you can

1501
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,800
do like a Zelda thing. We're
you can switch between the two minutes.

1502
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,960
Yeah, cool, something like that, Like you said, Kirkling, like

1503
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:11,239
binary mode, just do Phoenix floding
mm hmm, okay. A new and

1504
01:34:11,319 --> 01:34:15,239
unique character that I really am fighting
for here, Nega Sonic teenage warhead.

1505
01:34:15,359 --> 01:34:19,159
I feel like she has such a
place on this main roster, A new

1506
01:34:19,319 --> 01:34:24,000
ish character that really hasn't seen the
light of day too much. And like

1507
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,000
just just the effects, I feel
like I can already visualize them, kind

1508
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,520
of what you like that big one
that you pitched Dylan of just like the

1509
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,000
big jump up with the explosion,
Like it's just some great AOI attacks as

1510
01:34:32,039 --> 01:34:38,600
well as some light, smaller blast
attacks. Great name could be could be

1511
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,920
an interesting mechanic too, of like
if you choose to do your explode,

1512
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,920
it like takes away some of your
HP, so you kind of have to

1513
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:49,199
like, use it skillfully, tactically
at the right time. I builder HP

1514
01:34:49,359 --> 01:34:56,119
up back in some other way.
Sure, there's there's so Yeah, you

1515
01:34:56,119 --> 01:34:59,000
guys are more hyped on her than
I am. But there's enough cool things

1516
01:34:59,039 --> 01:35:01,439
where I'm nice. My trade for
for Travis, and he didn't say that.

1517
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:08,600
Charles doesn't count. I liked your
idea for Forge Kirkling, but I'm

1518
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:13,239
thinking I'm thinking he's getting the boot. Yeah, he's a boot for me.

1519
01:35:13,359 --> 01:35:17,000
Stuck in the future. Yeah,
the game. He's not playable though,

1520
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:23,039
legends for the Days of Future past
DLC. He can be with Bishop

1521
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:27,600
and Bishop. Yeah, there you
go exactly, Bishop's sister whatever. Oh

1522
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:33,960
yeah, hell Hanica, Yeah yeah, that's so funny, Harmonica. Okay,

1523
01:35:34,079 --> 01:35:40,159
so now we're at twenty eight,
so we have eight more. Wow,

1524
01:35:40,199 --> 01:35:43,399
this is a really I think I'm
okay to kick Pyro. We got

1525
01:35:43,399 --> 01:35:47,159
Sunspot, you guys, I'm fine
with that. Travis, you you mentioned

1526
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:50,439
earlier, you know, get two
or none, and we have Charles.

1527
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:55,199
What about Emma Frost. I think
she's in there. I think she's very

1528
01:35:55,239 --> 01:35:59,399
compared to Charles. Yeah, Diamonds
forever. Yeah, I was for them

1529
01:35:59,399 --> 01:36:01,520
both always. I love them both, you know, make them different.

1530
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:09,560
Good stuff, Juggie. How we
feeling on Juggie, you know about I

1531
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:13,199
feel about that Juggernaut. You know, like, how many tanks do we

1532
01:36:13,239 --> 01:36:15,560
really got? Told this before we
got Beast, we got a paw collapse

1533
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:20,079
and Colossus. We got three and
also thirty six just three, like this's

1534
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,479
teams and we have his brother already
on there. So you know you want

1535
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:30,760
Charles and uh, jugg you having
to do some like Calmo moves like Charles,

1536
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,600
Yeah, and just kills them though, kills Charles mid throw. That

1537
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,159
that that's the one I think I
want the most out of these ones.

1538
01:36:38,199 --> 01:36:41,319
He's a guy that's been in both
Marl Walton Elliance and X Men Legends.

1539
01:36:41,359 --> 01:36:44,359
He's a bit of a legacy pick, but I guess I always liked run

1540
01:36:44,359 --> 01:36:47,479
around his Juggernaut. So that's that's
my pick. I'm a pitch for.

1541
01:36:48,119 --> 01:36:51,279
That's your number one if you had
I think so, Yeah, I think

1542
01:36:51,319 --> 01:36:56,520
so. He's any what character is
a running power? Quicksilver would but his

1543
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:00,680
is like speed, right, this
is like destruction and he has a good

1544
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,439
more of a stomp sort of thing. Yeah, deal damage around controller vibrates

1545
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:09,479
with every breath. Yeah, he
is he is fun and weird and ultimate

1546
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:14,000
alliance too. I remember him from
that. Yeah, but Kirkland's not on

1547
01:37:14,039 --> 01:37:16,319
the drug train. He's not on
the drug train. Is anyone on the

1548
01:37:16,319 --> 01:37:21,119
Domino train. We can not strongly, not strongly that we can get rid

1549
01:37:21,159 --> 01:37:27,800
of her. Now lower than in
the X Force, Yeah, XPORTDLC with

1550
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:34,560
Shad Now he's a leather suit,
black and gray. Okay, So we

1551
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:40,319
are at twenty nine now, meaning
we need seven more of these and this

1552
01:37:40,399 --> 01:37:44,760
is how many? This is nine? So we got a cut two.

1553
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,960
I sound too bad. I pitched
both of them Silver Samurai and Lady dast

1554
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:51,560
Strike. I have Silver Samurai higher
than Lady dusk Strike as well. It's

1555
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:56,000
interesting because we already got Saber Tooth
NX twenty three. I feel like we

1556
01:37:56,119 --> 01:37:58,720
I don't know if we could keep
all three of those Animal rain that's a

1557
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,199
lot of a knife three yeah,
or I meant like in Contenders, like

1558
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,319
if we have to, I like, is there a version of this where

1559
01:38:05,319 --> 01:38:10,000
we keep all four? I don't
think so in my opinion, and that

1560
01:38:10,079 --> 01:38:12,800
strikes the lowest on that list for
me. Have the two and I'm with

1561
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:18,520
the Is she not more like interesting
from a character perspective, like story wise

1562
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:25,239
than who than Samurai. She's just
a dad got killed and she blames Logan,

1563
01:38:25,359 --> 01:38:28,039
you know, like that's it,
and she's just gonna have ah I

1564
01:38:28,079 --> 01:38:31,960
hate you, but we'll work together
like ex Lovers too, Like that's interesting.

1565
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,159
Get that saber tooth in him movie
ex Lovers, They could change that

1566
01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:40,359
in this game. It's true.
Yeah, it's true. Yeah. I

1567
01:38:40,399 --> 01:38:43,039
mean, if you guys are both
locked on Samurai, then I guess,

1568
01:38:45,279 --> 01:38:47,000
and then I guess I'm okay to
drop death Strike to make this happen.

1569
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:56,319
Cut her out of there one more
man. I got the controversial pick.

1570
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,399
You're gonna say Deadpool. I mean, I got dead Full. I've said

1571
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,600
before, we've bad enough Deadpool.
No one's gonna miss it. No one's

1572
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,239
gonna be like, oh man,
Deadpool. Like that's the way I would

1573
01:39:04,279 --> 01:39:13,279
go I pitched him. I would
I would say to cut multiple Man because

1574
01:39:13,279 --> 01:39:15,199
we we have sinister in there now, right, And that was that was

1575
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:18,279
the cloning character that I was.
I was, I think and like I

1576
01:39:18,279 --> 01:39:23,000
think, I fully haven't solidified on
the move set for Multiple Man and how

1577
01:39:23,039 --> 01:39:26,600
that would be balanced. It's the
trickiest character on there. I think to

1578
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,439
kind of implement into a game.
But you could just take the best of

1579
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,359
Multiple Man and put that into a
tier of Sinister, right, like what

1580
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:36,520
you're gonna do for that character,
and like one power set like the multiplization

1581
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:42,319
like you do that with Sinister.
So ye, I mean even like I

1582
01:39:42,359 --> 01:39:45,720
don't know what the mind tricks like
m A. Frost or Xavier could do

1583
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,319
something weird like that where there's like
clones or fake people. Yes, Jane

1584
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,039
can do that too. Yeah,
so I think I think we should cut

1585
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:58,680
multiple Men for for safety Deadpool yeah, which yeah, which means that saber

1586
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,640
Tooth X twenty three, Deadpool,
Mystique, Juggernaut, Havoc, and Silver

1587
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:06,000
Samurai make which those are all really
right, Those are all really cool picks.

1588
01:40:06,039 --> 01:40:10,640
Like I mean, obviously I was
excited for Havoc. I'm Mystique's never

1589
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:14,000
been playable in one of these games. I feel like this list would be

1590
01:40:14,079 --> 01:40:16,920
wrong without Deadpool on it and the
X twenty three and Sabertooth in there,

1591
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,520
Like yeah, that's sweet, really
really cool, and again it gives like

1592
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:26,439
those three are different Wolverine just the
classic clause X twenty three at that foot

1593
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:28,920
Claw. I feel like they could
do tons of fun attack that and Saber

1594
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:30,760
too. If you just make the
tank your one and again Silver Samurai,

1595
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,600
even if you're lower hype one dum. I just feel like if you get

1596
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,479
that full roster list and building up, if you got the like, man,

1597
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:41,000
what's this character gonna play? Like, like why did they include Silver

1598
01:40:41,079 --> 01:40:44,000
Samurai? And I think there could
be some some again, he could also

1599
01:40:44,039 --> 01:40:45,439
be that low tier character where like, man, this guy sucks. He's

1600
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,920
slow, he just has a sword. They didn't give him any other powers.

1601
01:40:49,279 --> 01:40:53,960
He's tanky, you know, but
there's something just unique and plus,

1602
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,640
like you said, we don't have
that many films. How many films did

1603
01:40:55,680 --> 01:41:00,840
we end up having Mystique Magneto,
Sinister Apocalypse, Samurai, Saber Tooth.

1604
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:06,279
Yeah, so Omega d Sittinel.
So that's where eight so eight, so

1605
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:12,600
like almost like not that much of
the roster is villains. So that's a

1606
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:15,199
good. So if this game's announced
and you see this roster, who you

1607
01:41:15,239 --> 01:41:18,520
guys saying like that's gonna be my
first character that's filming amain as soon as

1608
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,560
I unlock them, like I'm playing
them first. You know there's a lot

1609
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,880
there, But do you have someone
in the top of your head. For

1610
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,960
me, I feel like it'd be
Omega Red just because it's like you're right,

1611
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,399
that are Apocalypse, just because I
don't think Apocalypse would end up be

1612
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:35,039
my favorite, but I'd love to
try it out. But you know what,

1613
01:41:35,039 --> 01:41:39,600
I'll auction mode Professor x there's a
chance because he could be that character

1614
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,640
of like oh man, he is
super fucking open, Like he could be

1615
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,439
that character. Remember when Taylor for
some reason his ghost Rider and he was

1616
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,920
always last. That could be Exavier, Like oh man, Tras is still

1617
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:53,359
here like floating around as Xavier because
an Examer he could have good ev aids

1618
01:41:53,399 --> 01:41:57,640
with that chair too. So yeah, xavierard like to I'd be curious because

1619
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:00,279
that okay, what could they have
done with him to make them playable here?

1620
01:42:00,399 --> 01:42:05,399
You know, Cube Rider Cube Charles, I would definitely be most excited

1621
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:10,720
for. Yeah, someone who's never
been in there before, like Kazar and

1622
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:15,479
zeb who I honestly maybe one for
me or like Kittie Pride I think as

1623
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,039
well, would be one that would
be super hyped for. And I could

1624
01:42:18,039 --> 01:42:21,039
see myself just being locked on her
for like four hours in a row once

1625
01:42:21,079 --> 01:42:25,880
we finally unlocked her in the game. Quick Silver done well, could be

1626
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,079
like, yes, cool, that
would be just to see what it's like

1627
01:42:28,239 --> 01:42:31,359
for sure. Yeah. Another one
that I think I would really really like

1628
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,800
is magic as well. Just a
big sword, slice them through, just

1629
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:41,960
one liners, the Russian one liners. Yeah, I think that would be.

1630
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,840
This is shaping up to be a
great, great roster, a great

1631
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,760
game looking at it right now.
Yeah, I want right now, even

1632
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,239
if you took half the roster,
be like, hey, give me,

1633
01:42:53,399 --> 01:42:56,920
give me this stuff. You know, uh, Kirkland, why do you

1634
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,840
do the honors? And read this
list off one more time? All right?

1635
01:43:00,079 --> 01:43:03,560
On the top, we got Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, Iceman,

1636
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:10,600
Beast, Colossus, Gambit, Jean
Gray, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Jubilee,

1637
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:16,039
Cable, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver,
Magic, Magneto, Kitty Pride, Sunspot,

1638
01:43:16,279 --> 01:43:23,399
Silock, Angel, Dazzler, Kazarn
Zabu. One character. We got

1639
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:29,239
the Sentinel, Omega, Red Apocalypse, Mister Sinister, Professor X, Negasnic

1640
01:43:29,239 --> 01:43:33,960
Teenage Warhead, Emma Frost, Sabertooth
X twenty three, Deadpool, Mystique,

1641
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:40,640
Juggernaut, Havoc, and Silver Samurai. Damn, what a list? What

1642
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:45,239
a list? There you go,
boys, This was very fun. Thank

1643
01:43:45,279 --> 01:43:49,079
you for joining me on this one. I always love nerding out on rosters

1644
01:43:49,079 --> 01:43:53,600
and whatnot. I'm glad we've done
this now for Ultimate Lines multiple times.

1645
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:58,000
Done it now for X Men.
A good kickoff. Two X Men months

1646
01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:00,000
or two x Men months. I
don't know how. I'm trying to think

1647
01:44:00,119 --> 01:44:06,600
the month of the month and the
months of season season House of x you

1648
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:11,119
know, so season it's somewhere between
spring and summer. Is the season of

1649
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,600
the hidden season. Yeah, thank
you for joining me. Thank you everyone

1650
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:16,920
for listening. Like I said,
if you're an X Men, we go

1651
01:44:17,039 --> 01:44:20,319
check out our animated series coverage.
Go check out all the other lists and

1652
01:44:20,399 --> 01:44:24,479
rankings we're gonna do. A lot
of those are on Patreon or exclusive on

1653
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:27,159
Patreons. That's a good place to
go. And yeah, that's about it.

1654
01:44:27,159 --> 01:44:29,239
Thank you every for listening, and
we'll see you again next time.

1655
01:44:29,399 --> 01:44:32,840
Bye bye,