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The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend. Now

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here is your host, DJ Leaves. Well, we are ready to go

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for what is the final few days
of March and a tremendous weekend of action

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at least so we think on paper, from Las Vegas to Glendale, Arizona,

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and to Inglewood, California, with
three different fight cards involving championship fights.

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It is the Big Fight Weekend Preview. I am the somewhat competent host,

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TJ. Reeves. He is our
insider. Hello, Dan Rayfield of

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his Fight Freaks Unite substack also Big
Fight Weekend dot Com. Good to be

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back with you as we get ready
to see what Tim Zuo can do headlining

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in the premiere boxing champions Amazon pay
per view, the debut of that pay

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perview series, Oscar Valdaz, Liam
Wilson and what is a really good fight

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on paper in the top rank ESPN
Plus main event and oh, by the

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way, Zerdo Ramirez will go for
a cruise aweight world time in a Golden

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Boy Boxing main event on Saturday.
You'll see anyways on Sunday and Heavyweight Suday.

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Some weeks we've got like one primary
fight card to talk about. Kind

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of like last week, this week
it seems like we need about five shows

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to talk about all that we have
going on. Anyway, good to be

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with you. How are you.
I'm good, I'm ready to go.

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Let's good. Smile you're smiling because
at the time we're doing this, the

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Yankees have won. The Yankees are
undefeated. One sixty two and oh.

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Is possible as I stay with my
two good friends, my do my best

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buddies, all time Yankee fans like
myself. We were texting each other the

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one sixty two and oh thing earlier
just after the game ended. You do

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have that chance. My Tampa Bay
Rays in my area not so fortunate.

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They lost the opening game. No
one beating season for them. We'll see

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how it all plays out all right. By the way, thank you for

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the weekend here and then recap coming
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twice, the fun on the Big
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recapping everything that goes on this weekend. Busy busy, So let us start

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with Hey in chronology. Friday night, as we released this podcast, they're

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fighting in Glendale, Arizona in the
ESPN plus Top Rank main event. Former

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two division world champ Oscar Valdez in
the hunt again for a title, will

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take on Liam Wilson. You should
know that name is a junior lightweight because

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he fought valiantly against e Manuel Navorate, had Navarat on the deck before Navarate

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got up and stopped him. Valdez
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a common opponent, but intriguing.
Main event Sanissa Estrada is the co feature

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fight. Here we go for Friday
night right away in the Top rank show

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in Arizona. Daan, listen,
this is a hell of a cart.

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I mean, you know, we
keep it real. I've been sucked.

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I'd say it sucked. This is
not that is a really good doubleheader.

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It is the I guess in terms
of the main event with the Oscar val

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Does and Lean Wilson, it's I
guess you could call it the Emmanuel never

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at Ta Losers bracket. But they
both had such great fights against Emmanuel never

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atte that. I don't mind their
care that they lost, and you know,

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Valdez is coming off that loss in
August. It was a tremendous fight,

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a real great Battlefight of the Year
contender, and Liam Wilson had,

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like you mentioned, Navarrete had,
you know, was down against him and

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he was an obscure late replacement that
fought. He actually took the place of

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Oscar in that fight for the vacant
title at one hundred and thirty. Oscar

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had an injury, so they fought
each other and when that fight was over,

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Naverete had won the belt. When
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came back and had the first defense
against Oscar val does never At They did

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and that was a hell of a
fight. So since the loss, Wilson

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has gone home to Wash Shelly and
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he's an action fighter, Valdez is
an action fighter. They both come forward

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and I think it's going to be
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you know it's they took the fight
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say, So credit to them for
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WBO and the fact that Navarrete is
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pound weight class to vie for the
their vacant title. Remember when Devin Hainey

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vacated all the belts after he became
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forty, the belts became vacant,
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against Denny Brenchik for that vacant title. That's going to take place in the

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month of May May eighteenth in San
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this fight between Valdez and Liam Wilson
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essence, they're crowning the new champion
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I say that because technically, yes, of course, whatever happens with

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the Navente fight, win or lose, he's entitled to return to the one

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hundred and thirty pound way class to
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anybody a top rank or the people
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you know, just normal understanding of
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chances of coming back to the one
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knowing you'd have to fight the winner
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which is not a bad fight,
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with it that he can make probably
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point ninety nine percent. He's going
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guess it's conceivable that if he lost, maybe he would come back down.

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Ray Vargas did that when he lost
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six. But in essence, you
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in the end, come like May
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because the winner will be upgraded.
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Both these guys, you know,
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they spoke about it. For Valdez, you know, he wants to be

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a three time, you know,
a three time champion. And obviously for

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Wilson, he had his shot,
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another opportunity with this fight. So
really good fight. And you mentioned in

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the undercart fight co feature because the
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the main event, but there was
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as the co feature. But that's
Saniza Strada against Yo Costa Vaye, without

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question, the two best strawweight women
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two women that have two of the
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the title, you know. So
in terms of women's boxing, it's an

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excellent matchup between two of these women
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women's boxing U and not a lot
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But it should be a fun fight. They don't like each other.

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They've been dogging each other out for
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says she's taken a personal Yocasta says
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I just know when they get in
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very highly interesting, competitive, h
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think it's a dynamite card. And
as you made mentioned, we did hear

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from Sonissa Estrada recently on this podcast
feed about her plans, her aspirations four

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belt undisputed here for that fight and
back to Valdez and Wilson, we can't

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overstate this. There should be some
atmosphere on Friday night because Valdez has got

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a following in Tucson, nearby to
Glendale, but also because again he's from

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a part of Mexico that is in
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below Arizona, So there's there and
that is a big fight area, Mexican

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American fight area for previous fights that
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I know it's a Friday night,
i know it's not the biggest of names,

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but Valdez has got a following.
I'm interested in what kind of crowd,

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what kind of environment they'll bet I'm
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also, I mean, you know
the thing, I I mean, this

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entire card is on ESPN Plus as
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you know all this, all the
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always are, except usually the last
and all the of the carter on the

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main network. But in terms of
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little bit for everybody. They've got
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He got the silver medal winner from
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is in action undefeated. Yeah,
Raymond Moretaya that's knocking on the doorstep of

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a lightweight world title fight. He's
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they can convince him to be his
July sixth opponent. We'll see. He's

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got an opponent that he's facing in
No Genji that's fought against Haney and has

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some other guys he's fought against,
so it's another you know, good I

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think, a decent opponent for Maritaya. When dolf aol Delgado, the Mexican

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olympian who's always exciting, who's undefeated, he's in on the under card also,

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so you know, there's a lot
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And also Emiliano Vargas, the young
lightweight that's the eight to oh son of

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the of the former two time junior
middwaight champion for an Endo Vargus, who

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is you know, emerged as a
hot product also, so there's there's a

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little bit of a lot of bit
of talent on this undercard, no doubt.

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All right, So again that is
Friday night, as we released this

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podcast for the ESPN Top Rank show
Saturday Night, the most prominent of the

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fights, and we've been talking about
it now building up for a few weeks

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that Tim Zuo's the headliner. We
did talk at length over the weekend about

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the switch now to Sebastian Fondorra.
He is the opponent, and it's now

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the headlining fight of the PBC,
Amazon Prime and PPV dot Com pay per

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view. It is for two belts
in the junior middleweight division. This is

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originally a non title fight at just
over the junior middleweight limit. Now it's

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a two belt junior middleweight world title
fight with the vacant WBC Junior Middleweight title

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on the line. Four title fights
on this card coming up. All right,

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Dan Rayfield, here we go.
Zoo again, immensely popular in Australia,

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trying to build some US cachet if
you will get the dollars up by

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coming to the United States. And
I like what you've said a couple of

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times, and we've seen it so
many times. He could have potentially nixed

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this and said I don't want to
fight Fondorra, big southpaw, too short

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a notice. I like this about
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Bring it on. I want it
here. So let's begin with that.

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Yeah, I mean you got to
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give both guys credit. When you
take on this dangerous of an opponent on

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short notice, you know, it
does throw things off. Now, they

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were both training for fights becus Fondora
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originally fighting for the vacant WBC title
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show against Sir Hey Bochek, And
of course the main event was Tim against

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Keith Thurman over the weight that one
fifty five, not for the title.

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That wasn't because of anything about Tim
that willing to put the title up.

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That was the WBO for appropriate reasons
not sanctioning it against Dermann who hasn't fought

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in that weight clast who's been off
for two years, and who was not

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ranked. So they were to do
non title. Now Fondora is the opponent,

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and it's for the vacant belt that
Fondora was supposed to fight for as

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well as for Tim Zoo, so
it's added stakes for that. So you're

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going to go in with one one
belt and the winner comes out with two.

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And on top of that, as
you mentioned, the credit to the

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guys making the big switch because it's
more of a look Fondora was going to

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be in with Boachek. You know, similar size to Zoo, right handed

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fighter. You know, not a
lot of you know, different opponent fair

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enough, but you know, and
probably to be honest, a better opponent.

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But the reality is it's you know, the same general size. It's

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not like a huge You're not making
some kind of huge changing your entire mentality

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of going into the ring. For
tim Zo, you know, for a

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lot of guys to be tough enough
to fight, to switch from a ready

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to a lefty or to switch to
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doing both. He's going from fighting, as I've stated before, a five

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nine ten or a five eight five
nine Keith Thurman right hander to a six

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foot six southpak which is just a
huge change. And I'll say this again

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the size difference, to just put
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a six foot six fighter like Sebastian
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Vladimir klitch Go, the former heavyweight
champion. His inch his reach is one

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inch shorter than Vladimir klitsch goes from
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it's a it's a very big change. But Thurman like you said, he

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said, bring it on. So
I think it's a good fight. I'm

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not so sure how how the pay
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don't feel like Amazon has done anything
to help promote this fight. That's a

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different story for a different day.
But it's a heck of a of a

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matchup, especially on short notice.
I like it better than the Therman fight

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in the first place to be put
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some of those undercard fights because it's
a it's an attractive undercard. Also,

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again, pay per view, you
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And I think Amazon has done nothing
to help promote this fight at all that

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I can tell, and I you
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Yeah, they now have a landing
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if you don't know that the events
happening, you gotta go like an on

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an archaeological expedition to try to find
it. I mean, I'm I'm a

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pretty savvy boxing customer and consumer and
and know my my ins and outs of

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finding things to watch boxing matches on. This is like, it's no.

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But the point is, unless you're
the dorks like us and the degenerates side

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diards who are gonna purposely seek it
out. Nobody that's just not going to

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just happen upon it. It doesn't
seem So does the sports fan know about

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this, that's what you're saying.
Does the sports fan who might watch boxing

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know about this through Amazon? Is
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know about it just because they're boxing
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from Amazon defined it as the point, And the reality is it was already

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facing a very difficult, uphild battle
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know, all the oxygen of the
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Are most of it anyways taken up
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going on, So they got a
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again, the pay per view element
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the perception of how the bouts are, So we can get into the other

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bouts. But that's just my take
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And we'll hear more about PPV dot
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Amazon dot prompt. We've been doing
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on the pod and on the website, and you're doing that as well through

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your substack. Don't come crying to
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But that's boxing fans. That's the
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the sports fan that watches everything,
that will watch the NFL, watch the

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NBA, the March Madness, major
League Baseball, how to if they're a

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boxing fan casually, how do they
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here, all right? Co feature
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some Thursday fireworks at the press conference, at least verbally not unexpected about this

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WBA junior welterweight title fight. We
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on the under card. All right, what else here of the it's a

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four championship fight card, three of
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feature. Yeah, I mean,
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Pit Pull is moving up from lightweight
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belt. It'll be Raley's first title
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won the title knows it's a little
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stoppage that he was able to win
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got a little bit of help from
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fight where Barroso was kicking his ass. Let's be honest, but Cruise is

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a much smaller guy. But the
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the in any match he's in is
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Roly Romero as just not. He's
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that, and you know, he's
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don't take away from him, but
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it's the Navarete loser's bracket fight,
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the Tan Davis loser's bracket fight because
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pretty roughly, and you know,
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to go to distance with Tank Davis, so they both were the losers to

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Tank. But so it's an interesting
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to sort of make his name better
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that the last fight ended against Barroso, and obviously for Cruz it's an opportunity

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to you know, win another title
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a good fan base, especially with
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you know, it's a little bit
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as stark as the main event in
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Romeiro obviously is much bigger just in
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what is Zach Cruise is. But
good fight and then you know the other

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undercard fights. But this is the
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on, which is Arisloni Lara defending
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long overdue from Australia. Also Michael
Zarafa that was seven seconds. Are you're

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gonna keep going? Besides go ahead? Just just a horrible fight in my

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opinion, does belonging this pay per
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He's been squatting on the title,
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ever since he got the gift of
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I mean ever since he had the
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Jared Hurd, and then he had
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undefeated, who went on to become
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starting in the middle of twenty nineteen
think about him. In years that's been

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Arizon Lara has had four fights and
they've all been events, very very poor

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opposition. Ramon Alvarez, the older
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in terms of his talent. Greg
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Thomas Lamana who got wiped out in
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a world title fight to begin with
Spikosullivan, you know, a fighter with

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some fans from you know, the
UK, but not not a not a

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world level fighter who you know that
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actually you know, not the UK
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greative opponent, I'll say, than
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it's just a waste of a spot. T PVC's got so many quality fighters

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that have been inactive that they could
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guys like Carlos A. Damis and
Brandon Figueroa and the mess Stanionis, and

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I mean they're all young guys,
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Laura is just collecting a check every
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So I hate that fight and the
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back. They took the flyweight fight
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When they made the opponent switch,
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which is the flyweight WBC champion Julius
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remember TJ, this was the fight
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final Showtime card back in December,
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the fight was postponed and it was
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has emerged as one of the top
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out there, you know, arguable
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a real fight. Cordova's undefeated,
he's pretty solid. I've seen him before.

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And then on the on the free
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Mendoza who's been coming has been training
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with TGB and PBC in case he
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a defense against him Zoo where he
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Again, he's been training so he's
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the new opponent for Seray Boachik and
they will fight for the interim title rather,

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you know, which is kind of
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you got the full title at stake
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the interim title in the co feature, I don't really quite get that.

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what you got. It is interesting. He squashed Fundor with basically one big

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punch now, so he lost every
round before that, right, Zoo handled

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him for the most part the same
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Zoo had a lot of respect for
Mendoza and was using him as a sporring

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partner, et cetera. And now
it's interesting because he's got inteled on both

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guys. He's got intel for Zoo, I guess on Fundora and what it's

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like to be in the ring with
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he's on the card himself with Bulachuck. Yeah, so that's that's I mean,

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as look, that's a really quality
replacement. I mean, to be

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able to go from having the Fundora
against Boacheck and you get Mendoza on short

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notice. You know, as a
standby fighter, you sell there's you would

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never look at the lineup of the
card and say there was some gaping hole

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in it because of the injury.
You know, we can quarrel about the

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about the the disappointment of having this
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in terms of the overall matchups that
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they made the switch. And then
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Martinez's title defense, and then also
one of my favorite prospects in boxing,

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super exciting, on the rise,
young kid, you know, with a

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very bright future, Elijah Garcia in
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Can Davis, you know who's got
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he's you know, he's never really
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one time. That was by David
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went seven rounds with him, there's
nothing to apologize if he gets stopped by

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David Benavide, So you know,
he's got the experience and and they're seeing

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if you know, you want to
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going to go, and you know, you have to beat a kind of

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fighter like a Kyroon Davis to show
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super exciting prospect. He's only twenty
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you know, got a family,
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It seems I think this is probably
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can't say it's a big step up, but it's on the same level of

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guys who he's been fighting, which
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pretty solid opponents, whether it's Jose
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Junior. That was like the big
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undefeated when they fought each other.
You know, really to see who's the

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prospect and who's not. So that's
that's one of the free fights on Prime

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along with the along with the Boachik
fight against Mendoza. But yeah, this

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is a good card. I mean, you know, I can't I can't

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knock it all right, good stuff, and why don't we find out a

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little more now about how to see
it from one of our sponsors here,

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as we're anxious to see what happens
with all of these fights in Las Vegas,

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and we do that right now.
Well, we've been mentioning this.

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It is the inaugural premiere boxing champions
Amazon Prime pay perview, and we keep

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saying that you need to order this
on a one off purchase from PPV dot

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com. And who better to tell
us more about why you need to do

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that for this four championship fight pay
per view than Mark Bocardi of PPV dot

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Com, who is back aboard.
Good to have you again, my friend.

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I know we have a different opponent
than what we thought with Sebastian Fundora,

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but still the sensational Australian champ Tim
Zoo is involved in the main event

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and we're excited with what's coming on
PPV dot com this Saturday night. Yeah,

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great to be back. Thanks for
having me listen. Anytime Tim Zoo

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is fighting, we're excited, right, I mean, he is a Dynamo,

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and sure it was a bit of
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A lot of times when you have
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something exciting to just a complete walkover. That's not the case here. I

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mean you could argue that this is
actually going to be a more exciting fight.

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I mean, you've got the obvious
physical disparity between the two, but

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it's going to be a great event. So yeah, you mentioned it's the

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first PBC on Amazon pay per view, but it's probably our you know what,

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thirtieth PBC event on PPV dot com. So we're excited to be bringing

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it to everyone, no doubt.
And again with Fondora six foot six as

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a junior middleweight, our colleague Dan
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with the eighty inch wingspan is the
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champ, who was six to six
with an eighty inch wingspan and roughly one

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hundred pounds heavier when he was fighting. So it is intriguing to see if

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Fndora can create problems can zoos swing
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when he's somewhere around five ten,
five eleven himself. All of that is

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part of the intrigue. But as
I mentioned, we've got a Rollie Romero

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Isa cruz Co feature fight junior welterweight
World Time four title fights on this PPV

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dot Com broadcast here through Premiere Boxing
Champions as well. Yeah, it's going

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to be a great card, I
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and not only all that, but
as part of PPV dot Com is as

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we mentioned before, and little of
a little bit of new news here to

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mention as well. In addition to
Jim Lampley and Lance Pugmeyer participating in our

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chat, who fans have really taken
to in terms of interacting with during the

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event, we're also bringing on board
going forward starting with this event from Inside

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Boxing Live, Dan Kenobio and Chris
Aljery. Yes, a great pair as

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well. Chris brings such a unique
insight as having been in the ring on

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major you know, he's fought Manny
Paciao, has that other major events.

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And then Dan is you know,
just a boxing expert. So we're going

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to have those four guys in there
TJ for this event. So I think

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fans are really going to be able
to you know, have a really good

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time in the chat and enjoy all
different perspectives, tremendous interaction and from those

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individuals and again Crystal Clear four K
Kenady, whatever you need. And the

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most important thing with PPV dot com, we keep emphasizing this, no long

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term commitment, no six month commitment, no much less one year subscription needed.

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That is part of the appeal here, Mark again it is. And

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as we look forward here it's the
appeal because we've got this fight the Zoo

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Fundora. We're around the corner from
Haine Garcia. Then we're around the corner

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from Canelo, so we've got,
you know, a pretty stacked a few

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weeks, by the way, I
forget to mention, right after that we

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have fury U sic. And hopefully
right after that we have Tank Davis's return

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to two boxing. So it's going
to be a great stacked next few months.

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And the best thing for the fans
is pick and choose what you want

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to purchase. We keep talking about
that. It is it is. I

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mean, you may want to buy
them all anyway, but you're not obligated

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under a subscription price to have bought
every month or every fight. If you

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don't want pick and choose what you
want with pp dot com. Right of

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those five or six fights I just
mentioned, you pick what you want,

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no commitment beyond that, and have
some fun in the chat with our guys.

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And one more time here again with
Tim Zoo. I mean we're getting

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acclimated a bit to him right now. He's fought primarily in Australia. But

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anytime you use the praise son of
a Hall of famer, an unbeaten world

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champion, look out for what could
be ahead for this guy. We're looking

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to see. It is a test. We're looking to see if he passes

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the test, and then are big
things ahead for Zoo? One more time?

402
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,039
Yeah, no, absolutely. At
this point, I think the biggest

403
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,440
negative with Zoo is people have trouble
with his last name. If over that

404
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:48,039
right, I mean everything in the
ring. It's a sterling record and I

405
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,480
think he's going to have a long, really successful career. But yeah,

406
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:56,599
getting back to this fight, what
are unique intriguing matchup? I expect Zoo

407
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,440
to come in work the body quite
a bit on such a taller opponent,

408
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,559
but it's gonna be it's gonna be
a good night, it gonna be a

409
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,000
fun night. Should be a lot
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413
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:23,440
thanks again TJ. Thanks to your
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everyone buys it on PPV dot com. We guarantee you'll have a good experience,

415
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good stuff, and we appreciate their
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416
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,440
that whole one off purchase part will
come into play here because there are

417
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,480
numerous pay per views coming up that
you can pick and choose on with PPV

418
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dot com. So we're you know
what, We're not done previewing fights.

419
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,440
By the way, for this weekend. This is like the Gains sus Steak

420
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:49,960
Knives Ray Phiel. How much would
you pay now? Twenty ninety five thirty

421
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000
nine ninety five. Wait, there's
more. As we always say that,

422
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,319
let's get to the Goldenboy Dezone show
that we'll be coming on Saturday night in

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Inglewood, California. This is the
main event WBA Cruiserweight title held by Arson

424
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:11,200
Gula Marian. Gula Marian is an
Armenian under the French flag who's been training

425
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,920
in southern California, but making his
debut in the United States against Gilberto Zerto

426
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,960
Ramirez, who has moved up as
a former super middleweight champ, lost in

427
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:25,400
a titles shot at light heavyweight against
Dmitri b vol now has won a cruiserweight

428
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,119
fight against a former light heavyweight champ
himself, Joe Smith. So now Zerto

429
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,880
in the way here as a as
a top contender at cruiserweight for Gula Marian.

430
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,920
This is the main event Inglewood,
California on the Golden Boys Show,

431
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,519
another title fight Dan to go over. Yeah, it's a busy day on

432
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:45,119
Saturday because between the Prime card and
you got this card on his own,

433
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,480
and of course whatever else was going
on on Friday with the Valdez card,

434
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,920
it's a busy weekend. So but
this is Despite's kind of got lost in

435
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,200
the shuff a little bit. But
this is I think, in some ways

436
00:27:55,559 --> 00:28:00,039
one of the more intriguing fights because
there's so much we don't know about the

437
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,519
way that for a lot of things, How is Gilbert going to be at

438
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:07,039
a full fledged scruiserweight You mentioned about
his victory that he had against Joe Smith.

439
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,920
Obviously, they were both long time
light heavyweight contenders, and when they

440
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,519
fought each other back in October,
they contracted the fight at one ninety two

441
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:18,240
I believe was the contract weight,
so that's eight below the cruiserweight limit.

442
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:22,000
This fight with Gumari Gula Marian is
going to be at the full two hundred

443
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:26,519
pounds now. I suspect based on
the build that Zero has at six'

444
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,319
two and a half, you know, with that long reach of his,

445
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:32,200
that he's going to be just fine
in terms of filling out. I mean,

446
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,160
he obviously had trouble making the lights
heavyweight at the end of his time

447
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,559
in the way class, and uh, you know, I think it also

448
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:41,039
impacted him even when he lost very
badly in a lopsided decision to Dimitri biebel

449
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,200
In in that light heavyweight fight.
Then there was another one after that that

450
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,920
was canceled because he didn't make the
weight or wasn't close the weight. That's

451
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,960
right, He's gonna fill out.
He's gonna fill out just fine. I

452
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,960
think at two hundred pounds he's actually
a little bit taller than Gula Marian.

453
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:56,880
Uh and Gulamarian is the great unknown
to a lot of people. I've seen

454
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,359
some videos of the guy. He
definitely can fight out. I've talked to

455
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,640
the people within the sport also watched
him and scouted him and had their thoughts

456
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,920
about him, and they say,
this is a guy that's pretty well schooled.

457
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,640
He's got good power, and you
know, he's not like a walkover

458
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,279
type of guy. Just because he
never heard of him doesn't mean he's no

459
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:17,240
good. But the problem that he
has, besides the fact that I shouldn't

460
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:21,359
say a problem that he just is
not active. I mean, he think

461
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:25,480
about this. He had fought a
couple of title fire. He attended the

462
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:29,319
title in twenty nineteen at the very
end of the year, didn't fight it

463
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:32,519
all in twenty twenty, didn't fight
it all in twenty twenty one. Now,

464
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:34,000
obviously a lot of that was pandemic
related, like a lot of guys

465
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,240
that had those types of layoffs.
But then he came back and it wasn't

466
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,359
until the very end of twenty twenty
two. So from twenty nineteen in December

467
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:45,200
twenty one, twenty two was two
year layoff where he just didn't fight,

468
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,160
and then in that fight he fought
over in France and then didn't fight again

469
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:56,000
until this fight that's coming up against
Zerdo Vermier. So his last was November

470
00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:08,200
of two thousand. I know they've
got some you know, lack of to

471
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:11,519
fight. I mean, so you
know he's coming off not just like it's

472
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:15,680
one thing to come off the long
left, but to have such a long

473
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,039
period of time between even just one
or two fights is just you just don't

474
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:21,039
know how he was gonna react.
Now. The good thing, I think

475
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,680
this is a good thing. You
have to have to love his desire and

476
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,480
his willingness. He's coming here on
an uncomfortable territory. It's not a mandatory

477
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,559
fight. He's taken on a good
name in Ramirez, but he wanted to

478
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,279
be trained by the trainer Abel Sanchez. Abel Sanchez has retired. He's you

479
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:41,160
know, had his well known camp
up in the in uh in California,

480
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,559
up in the mountains in uh you
know, you know, in Big Bear,

481
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:48,240
California. Well known of course for
the being the trainer for Gnati Glovekin

482
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:52,519
before that, the Hall of Famer
Terry Norris and you know other fighters he's

483
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,640
worked with through the years. But
he, like I said, he retired

484
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,880
and and gol Marian came to him
and like basically camped out on his doorstep

485
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,920
and begged him to take him on. And uh, you know, Abel

486
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,960
had a good attitude about it after
the guy just wouldn't leave him alone.

487
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,240
He's like, the guy must really, you know, how can I not

488
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,319
help him? You know what I
mean? So Abel is training him for

489
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:14,799
this fight, and it's been a
while since Abel's been, you know,

490
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,839
in any kind of fight, or
much less a world championship fight. So

491
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,480
you know, we'll see if,
if the wise Abel Sanchez can impart his

492
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,839
knowledge and all the all the great
things that he's accomplished in his training career

493
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,279
on this fighter Goilmurray and see what
he can do. So I like this

494
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,359
matchup. I'm very interested to see
how Gilberto is going to do in the

495
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,920
way class. I'm curious to see
how gil Marien is gonna do against by

496
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,400
far and away, in my opinion, his number one best opponent that he

497
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,519
has faced in his career, even
though he's undefeated. It's interesting to me.

498
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,319
I'll be watching. And again,
also, I'm curious, before you

499
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:52,720
get to the undercard fight, I'm
curious what kind of shape is Ramirez in

500
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:57,720
will this fight start to go distance? Go sixth round, go eighth round?

501
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,680
What kind of shape is he in? Et cetera for this, because

502
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,279
again it was not long ago,
within the last couple of years, he

503
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,480
was fighting at super middleweight, which
I know you've been over and now he's

504
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,119
fighting a cruiser weight. We'll see, all right. And then on the

505
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,559
undercard, Alexis Rocha is on the
undercard here in a welterweight battle as part

506
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:19,240
of one of the Golden Boy fighters
as well. Yeah, I mean Roacha

507
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,960
was a good looking contender. He
had suffered a previous loss, but he

508
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400
was starting to really you know,
he had bounced back. He was he

509
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,160
looked very good in some of the
wins he had knockouts. Obviously part of

510
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,200
that was great matchmaking, you know, where he was in with opponents that

511
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:34,200
were not like bad opponents, but
guys that he was clearly going to be

512
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,000
favored to win. They matched him
up in October with Giovanni Santition, who

513
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:42,119
was thirty one to zero but was
the underdog. He was coming to the

514
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,519
essentially the hometown of Roach in a
fight and he he didn't just get knocked

515
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:51,759
out. I mean he lost pretty
much every round and it was a real

516
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,240
rough fight and he got stopped and
it was you know, he took some

517
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:58,079
damage in that fight that stopped knocked
out in the sixth round. So now

518
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,960
he's coming back on the undercar and
looking to sort of rebuild. You know,

519
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,839
it's a good spot for him because
again he'll probably sell some tickets because

520
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,839
the fight's in his home area in
Inglewood, California. You know, it's

521
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,160
not too far from where he lives. And he's taken on Frederick Loss and

522
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,519
now Frederick Lawson. Of course,
if you remember what just happened recently back

523
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:19,000
in January, he got stopped in
the first round by Virgil Ortiz and another

524
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,160
horrendous tony weeks stop. It's just
just ridiculous, and there was a lot

525
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,599
of you know, false innuendo and
nonsense. I'm not being to get in

526
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,839
too right now about all that,
but the bottom line was, whatever you

527
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,480
think about the match between Ortiz and
Loss, and you can't deny that the

528
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:37,599
stoppage was very premature, even though
it looked like Virgil was on his way

529
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,680
to you know, getting an early
knockout, so to sort of make up

530
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,279
for that, and you know,
lost and has cleared all of his medical

531
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,680
issues. You know, there's no
all of his testing apparently is fine and

532
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:51,000
Dandy Golden Boy promised because that was
such a shit call, that they'll put

533
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,680
him in another fight. So they're
giving him an opportunity against Roacha. They're

534
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,599
both coming off stoppage losses. Roach's
was a much rougher knockout loss certainly than

535
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:04,400
what happened between Virgil and stopping loss. And so that's the co feature lost

536
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,199
in the seef. He can rebound
from that terrible scenario what happened back in

537
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,960
January and Broach a same deal from
what happened back in the fall. And

538
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,280
I remember we were saying at the
time they should do something for him because

539
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:21,079
you're looking yes, he got paid, but you're looking at giving him no

540
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,119
chance there in that opening round to
even see what he could do for future

541
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:28,320
paydays for anything else. So at
least he gets something kind of as a

542
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,320
give back here from Golden Boy Promotions. So good on that. And we're

543
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:37,800
still not done because there's a Sunday
boxer fight card in the UK on Sky

544
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,079
Sports that'll be shown on Peacock streaming
here on the Peacock app in the United

545
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:49,159
States with heavyweights, the big dudes, Fabio Wardley, Fraser Clark intriguing for

546
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,920
the British and Commonwealth heavyweight championships.
All right, so give me a little

547
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,360
more on this because this is Sunday. We got fights Friday, Saturday,

548
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,519
and Sunday's gonna be a good way
to finish up the weekend. That's for

549
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,920
damn sure. Listen. I kind
of like this fight. I kind of

550
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,519
dig it. I mean, I'm
kind of hoping for like just a sloppy

551
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,760
heavyweight slobber knocker. I mean,
is that too much to ask for?

552
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:15,000
No, But Fraser Clark is a
guy that was a bronze medalist in the

553
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,360
twenty twenty Olympics. But he's thirty
two years old, so he turned pro

554
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,239
late, obviously, similar to what
was the scenario with Joe Joyce, who

555
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,199
was in you know, either his
very late twenties or early thirties or whatever

556
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:28,239
when he turned pro. I think
he was already into his thirties. So

557
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,960
the whole point here is I'm going
to make my pro career, but we

558
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,079
got to make the most of it, so we're gonna try to move quickly.

559
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,199
So he's only eight and oh and
you know, while he has fought

560
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,320
like the David Allen's of the world
and the ancient Marius Walk and Bogdan Dino

561
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,000
and guys would experience, but not
at his level. But he's done what

562
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:46,559
he's supposed to do. He beat
them and done. You know, he

563
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:51,119
beat them either by knockout in the
case of Walk by a route but shutout

564
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,280
decision. And now he's stepping up
to fight Wardley for stakes because the British

565
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,480
title in the Commonwealth title is meaningful
in the UK. But Fabia Wardly to

566
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,039
me is kind of ready to take
the next step. I think this is

567
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:05,840
a big, big gamble for Fraser
Clark more so than Wordley. In my

568
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,760
mind. Worley's undefeated with seventeen wins
sixteen knockouts, looked really, really good

569
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,599
on the card in Saudi Arabia back
in October when Tyson Ferry fought Francis Nagano.

570
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,360
On that under card, he fought
the undefeated countryman from Britain, David

571
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,960
Adelier, in a fight that going
in, you know, a lot of

572
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,760
people sort of were on both sides
of the fence, didn't know who was

573
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,760
gonna win, could see scenarios for
both of them. They both were in

574
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,960
great shape and it was kind of
a toss up and Fabia Wordley showed his

575
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,679
stuff and he he knocked a Delier
down in round seven, stopped him good

576
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,719
stoppage, no issues, And he
had been winning pretty much every single round

577
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,159
leading up to that. He was
up by a shoutout on one scorecard and

578
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,639
basically was kicking his ass in a
sense, and so that was a big

579
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,360
win for him. And now he's
defending the British and Commonwealth against you know,

580
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,239
a fighter that if he can win
in Fraser Clark might have a future.

581
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,159
Gonna have to move quick, I
guess. But so if you're a

582
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,000
heavyweight fan and you like the Brits, this is a really interesting light to

583
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,119
me. And like you said,
I'm thrilled that it's on Peacock in the

584
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:08,360
United States because I like to watch
as much as I can and I think

585
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,119
this is a worthy matchup. All
right, again, that is Sunday afternoon,

586
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:17,519
Sunday night primetime in England for the
Boxers show. That's with that man,

587
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,119
We gave you a bunch, but
also let me just tek at more

588
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:22,599
think about that on that undercard,
I mean, among the undercard fights that

589
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:27,360
will be on the stream is you
got the medalists from the Olympics. Also

590
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,840
the very polarizing and exciting and interesting, let's say, with his antics,

591
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Ben Whittaker, the light heavyweight that
a lot of people think is going on

592
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,079
to become not only a world champion, potentially like a pound for pound guy

593
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:43,639
who will be in a seventh professional
fight. All right, so a bunch.

594
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,000
We gave you a bunch in the
preview mode on all four of those

595
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:51,239
fight cards of interest. Now some
news and some nostalgia. I know you've

596
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,599
been working on this as Thursday afternoons
coming to Thursday evening. They've made it

597
00:37:53,639 --> 00:38:00,400
official that Juan Francisco Estrada and Jesse
Bam Rodriguez will battle or Astrada's lineal and

598
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:07,039
WBC Junior Bantamweight Championship. It'll be
a de Zone show coming in Phoenix for

599
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:12,239
later this year. And I know
you're excited about the prospects of this,

600
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,800
and it's now done and announced June
twenty ninth. Like you said in Phoenix,

601
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,840
really outstanding fight, as I put
on my social media from the below

602
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,079
the bantamweight division. This is about
as good of a fight as you can

603
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:28,679
make in the sport of boxing,
in my opinion, really really interesting fight.

604
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,679
Two guys that bring it, two
guys that are exciting, two guys

605
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:35,280
that have accomplishment. But it's it's
like a clash of generations. Obviously,

606
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,360
one Francisco Astrata is not of the
current generation, even though he's the champion.

607
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:43,840
But he's almost a decade older than
Bam Rodriguez. But you just look

608
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,199
at his track record, right,
He's got the three trill and trilogies.

609
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:50,280
He's got the trilogy with Choclatito that
he officially is the winner of two to

610
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,280
one. He's he's fought quadras,
he's fought you know, Swiss kept rugby

611
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,599
side. If you go back a
number of years ago, we had a

612
00:38:55,639 --> 00:39:00,079
big win for the unified flyway title
against Brian Valoria. He's a very very

613
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:04,840
accomplished fighter on the pound for poundless
for a long time. Probably gonna be

614
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,280
in the Hall of fame in my
mind. And and it's still the champion,

615
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,159
you know, and and still and
still even if he loses, he

616
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:14,559
gives you your money's worth. That's
for damn short and dam you know,

617
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,079
we saw him look absolutely awesome in
his last fight when he when he uh

618
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:22,760
just battered Sonny Edwards to unify the
flyway titles. And so he's going from

619
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,559
the flyweight division. He's moving back
up to junior banhamweight where he used to

620
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,519
hold this WBC title and had made
a big name for him up because he

621
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,639
beats Ristic Cats a run beside and
he beat Quadris, who obviously were a

622
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:37,920
little bit older. And so now
he's now he's matching up with you know,

623
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:42,199
the the other of the great foursome
between the two guys I mentioned,

624
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,920
plus himself plus Chocolatito. You know, I mean, I guess you got

625
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,880
to look at it and say,
you know, he's he's going back to

626
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,360
a way class that he's been in
before. This is the title he used

627
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,840
to hold. He's decade younger.
You know, I would imagine I'll be

628
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,800
the betting favorite, but I don't
ever count that one. Francisco Estrada.

629
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:01,320
But I just love the matchup.
I think it's it's it's an old great

630
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,239
against a future great, is the
way I look at it. And you

631
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,639
know, there's gonna be a great
crowd there, Mexican Mexican Americans in a

632
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:12,960
great fight city like Phoenix that can
certainly turn out for the for the big

633
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,320
events. That's where Bam has fought
a lot of his fights, you know,

634
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,079
in the Phoenix, in the in
Glendell area, you know, some

635
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:20,159
of these bigger fights that he has
had. And what I love about Bam

636
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,639
Rodriguez, He's not looking to just
like defend the title or take on this

637
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,559
guy, or fight a mandatory or
have a regular fight. He wants the

638
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:29,760
names and he's getting them, and
he's willing to fight them. And he

639
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,440
because he brings a bit of a
fan base also, you know, he

640
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,159
can he can help make those matches
happen. Sonny Edwards, you know,

641
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,199
was more than willing to come here
to fight in the United States to fight

642
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,039
him in the unification that took place
in December. But like I said,

643
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:44,440
he also was able to fight Sarissicat
and Quadras. He's just yep, he's

644
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,039
banking if he can, if he
can win this fight against Estrada. From

645
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:53,400
twenty twenty two to now, he'll
have beaten Swissicat, Quadras, Sonny Edwards,

646
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,400
and Jan Francisco Estrada. That's four
out of the six fights he's had

647
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,039
in that time frame, and all
four of the guys that he would have

648
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:05,599
beaten are top notch, like legit
bona fide quality guys, no doubt about

649
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:07,119
it. So how do you not
love it? I mean, it's just

650
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,000
for me. It's a great matchup. I love it. It's gonna be

651
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:14,199
action, and it's gonna be for
big stakes and BAM beat the daylights out

652
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,639
of Sonny Rodrigae or Sonny Edwards last
time we saw him for BAM Rodriguez and

653
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:20,360
he's he's one of the best,
youngest, he's still the youngest. He

654
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,079
may not be the youngest now,
but he was the youngest world champion back

655
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:25,639
a couple of years ago. Yeah, I don't think he is any more

656
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,320
punning, right, He's still only
twenty four years old. And by the

657
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,440
way, as terms of the undercard
for that, this is not done yet,

658
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,119
but my sources tell me that the
co feature on this BAM against are

659
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:38,800
the Estrada against BAM fight. They
didn't announce this when they announced the main

660
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,079
event, but the co feature most
likely will be the return of Sonny Edwards

661
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,559
taken on Adrian Kurrie Ou who,
if you remember, had the back to

662
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:52,159
back fights at one hundred and eight
pounds with my boy siventh City Non Shinga

663
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:55,320
scored in the big knockout and then
lost in the rematch, so that will

664
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,320
be a real crossroads fight. He
would be moving up. But Sonny,

665
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:02,199
you know, took so much damage
in that fight against Bam Rodriguez. You

666
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,960
know, you're not sure what he's
got left, and obviously the other guy's

667
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,639
coming off the loss where he's moving
up in wait. So, but that's

668
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:14,320
interesting because the guy that wins will
suddenly become a player once again, or

669
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,320
in the case of Caill, a
player in the flyweight division. So that's

670
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,159
got a very good chance of being
squared away as the co feature. All

671
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,920
right, let's continue on the announcements. We have been talking about this a

672
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,920
couple of times. It's now official
Subrio Matias will return to Puerto Rico,

673
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:36,400
will defend his IBF Junior Wiltway title, and the opponent is Liam Paro of

674
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,599
Australia. Give us the particulars though
now on when it is, because it

675
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:43,400
is announced. Yeah, so it's
gonna be June fifteenth. They were messing

676
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,440
around with a couple different dates in
June, but it's now set for June

677
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:50,039
fifteenth. That'll headline the Mattrium card
onto his own. It'll be the first

678
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,559
card that match Room ever promotes in
Puerto Rico. It's taken place in a

679
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:59,199
place called Manatee, Puerto Rico,
which is where that's the hometown of sibral

680
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,559
Matia. So they've got like,
you know, when they put out the

681
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:05,039
announcement, they had stuff from like
the mayor of Manatee there. They got

682
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:08,000
a lot of assistance and kind of
getting this done from the mayor's office in

683
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:12,000
terms of like I don't know if
it's a sponsorship or whatever you want to

684
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:14,840
say about it, but they were
very instrumental in helping bring this there.

685
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,800
And they're gonna it's I think they'll
be a pretty good fight, but they'll

686
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,960
make it like a big party,
big homecoming, and uh, you know,

687
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,039
we'll see some good boxing. I
mean, Puerto Rico is such a

688
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,440
hotbed, it's such a great place
for boxing matches. No doubt, they

689
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,519
don't have they don't have like the
there is no Miguel Coto currently or Felix

690
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:34,960
Trinidad or you know, the great
champions they've had in their more recent past.

691
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:37,920
Mattias hasn't he's this is going to
be a second defense. But he

692
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,880
hasn't fought at Puerto Rico since like
twenty nineteen, so it's a chance for

693
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,199
him to become, you know,
the guy that the that the fans on

694
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Puerto Rico gravitate towards. And you've
got to start somewhere, so you know,

695
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,360
it's a it'll be You always love
seeing these big, exciting crowds when

696
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,400
the when the champ comes home.
And again I'm not saying he's fighting like

697
00:43:57,039 --> 00:44:00,760
you know, the number one,
the legit number one contender or youification fight,

698
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:04,840
you know, but Paro he does
have some reason to think he might

699
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,079
have a chance. He's got twenty
four wins, no losses. He does

700
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,400
have fifteen knockouts, and when he's
been in the fights that were supposed to

701
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,239
be competitive, they were not.
I mean, he thought, for just

702
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,599
as an example, not that this
was a well known fighter, but when

703
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:20,960
he fought his fellow Australian Brock Jarvis, who was also undefeated, he didn't

704
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,159
really know who's winning that fight.
He knocked himut in the first round,

705
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,440
and then they put him in with
Montana Love, who was more well known,

706
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,119
and he took him apart in the
sixth round. So he's done what

707
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:32,199
he's supposed to do against the opponents
that people thought might be dangerous. So

708
00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:36,960
we'll see if he can deal with
the ferocity and the intensity and the power

709
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,800
and obviously the great atmosphere that's going
to be supportive of Mattias in Mattias's hometown.

710
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,760
But I got to give him Parow
credit. You know, he's taken

711
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,840
the fight by going to the other
guy's backyard. Never an easy situation.

712
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,039
And by the way, you love
it when I throw in some insight from

713
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,719
the TJ perspective. I saw Liam
Paro earlier in his career December of twenty

714
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,400
twenty one on the Jake Paul undercard
in Tampa. He was impressive that night

715
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,960
as a little known Australian back Now
two and a half years ago with all

716
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:05,119
this, so let's see what he
looks like in that title fight. All

717
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:08,920
right, You have been talking to
us about this mega card proposed for June

718
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:15,599
the first. The Archer better b
of Dmitri bevol undisputed light heavyweight world title

719
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,119
is to be the main event.
And this is the five on five that

720
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:22,519
you were talking about on our recap
podcast. Eddie Hearn Frank Warren last week

721
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:27,239
shaking hands, saying, okay,
let's make the fights. You suggested what

722
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,079
a couple of the names could be, including even a wild card heavyweight fight.

723
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,920
Do we know anymore as the week
has gone on about what might be

724
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,280
going on here? Yeah, I
mean, I you know, they're they're

725
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,039
working getting all these fights done.
So first of all, just so people

726
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:44,079
understand where this is going. To
the context of how this is happening,

727
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,840
June first is going to be the
Arthur Better b of Dimitri Bivol. You

728
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,840
know, all the marbles at light
heavyweight fight. That's been a fight we've

729
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,480
all wanted to see for quite some
time, and just that fight alone,

730
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,079
you're like, oh, thank god, what a great fight. That's one

731
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,840
of the best matchups you can make
in the whole sport. Can't wait,

732
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:07,119
great matchup. Now you have Turkey
al Shehic saying that in the this goes

733
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:10,119
back to the press conference when they
announced the fight between Anthony Joshua and Naganu

734
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,719
and Turkey was there. This is
almost like an aside. He's like,

735
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,079
oh, by the way, I'd
also like to do this later in the

736
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:19,840
year, and he said I'd like
to have a fight card where I can

737
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,000
do five of the top guys in
the Frank Warren Stable Queensberry to fight against

738
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:28,960
the top guys in Eddie's matchroom stable
and five on five for bragging rights of

739
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,159
the promoters and all that. So
those five fights are gonna be the undercard

740
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:39,880
of Better BEFDVL. This I mean, and I I'm not one for hyperbole.

741
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:44,239
I think we've been doing this long
enough to know that I just like

742
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,719
I keep it real, man.
We call it, we spew facts,

743
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,159
we call it like we see it. If this card gets done in the

744
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:52,000
manner in which they're trying to get
it done, and these various fights I'm

745
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,079
about to mention to you are all
in various forms of being finalized and getting

746
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:00,559
squared away, one of them,
I know for a fact, is done.

747
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:06,599
This is one of the best cards
of recent years, of maybe the

748
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:09,519
last decade, maybe the last twenty
years, just top to bottom. When

749
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:15,079
you think that the main event is
better Be against Beeville, that alone is

750
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,679
obviously big time as it gets pound
for pound shit, you know, undisputed

751
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,679
big time. So now as a
co feature, I know they're coming off

752
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:28,760
losses, but it's still an interesting
fight Deontay Wilder against Zang July. You

753
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,159
know, the battle of the big
right hand of Wilder against the big left

754
00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:35,639
hand of Jang, where kind of
like a loser go home kind of fight

755
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:37,480
because the winner is going to be
in a real difficult spot coming off a

756
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:40,559
loss. They're not getting any younger. You know, Jang is forty or

757
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:45,280
whatever, forty one and that Deontae
is about thirty eight. They both lost.

758
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,599
You know, Jang got beat they
both got beat by Parker, by

759
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:50,880
Joe Parker. You know, Deontay
got kind of embarrassed by him in December,

760
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,000
and he looked terrible. We're just
going to be well, we're spewing

761
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:57,239
facts. He looked terrible. And
this and then if this is what it

762
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,199
is for him, this is his
last stand to show that he's something other

763
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,920
than the guy that Tyson Fury broke
once and for all, which we know

764
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,119
which we've been over. But go
ahead, what else? No? And

765
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,199
then and Parker, you know,
got knocked down twice by Jang, but

766
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,320
still one word, you know,
legitimately the decision when they fought back just

767
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:16,800
a few months ago, like or
like last or this month, I guess

768
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,199
in March. It was March,
wasn't that that was the card in Mark

769
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,440
correct, Yes, yes, So
they're coming back to do this fight.

770
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,639
So that's that's the co feature of
the heavyweights. Now you're talking about another

771
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:31,920
fight, and again there's still the
title aspect still has to get squared away.

772
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,800
I guess they've got to do some
negotiations or some conversations with the IBF.

773
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:40,679
But as everybody knows, come May
eighteenth, the guy who emerges as

774
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:46,320
the champion undisputed in terms of Tyson
Fear, Alexander Usik soon thereafter is contractually

775
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:52,199
obligated essentially to vacate the IBF title
because they have a two way they have

776
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,599
an automatic rematch right, So that
IBF belt is going to become vacant in

777
00:48:55,639 --> 00:49:00,400
the days or ten days or two
weeks after that fight. So the fight

778
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:06,639
that's gonna replace that for the vacant
title most likely, and the fight's made.

779
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:07,960
Whether the I can't speak about the
title one hundred percent, but the

780
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,400
fight is definitely made. And that
is Hergovic, Philip Hergovic, who is

781
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,840
the IBF manator against Daniel Duba,
who is you know, coming off of

782
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,440
a of a recent fight that just
happened on one of these Saudi cars where

783
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,920
he beat up on your boy,
Jaro Miller, you know, in December,

784
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,440
So it will be Hergovic versus Duba
for the vacant IBF title, and

785
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,320
the winner of that fight would then
probably be in line to defend the title

786
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:37,920
against Anthony Joshua, unless Turkey decides
he'd rather see Tyson Fury against Joshua if

787
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,320
he's the winner against Alexander Usk obviously, you know, even though they've got

788
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,960
the automatic rematch, he's paying the
money and he can you know, use

789
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,440
his leverage and his muscle to tastely
say this is what I want to make

790
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,199
and it will happen. But the
point is Hergovic against a way as it's

791
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,320
on its own title or even without
the title, is a very solid,

792
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,079
interesting quality heavyweight fight. I think
you would agree with that. Yes,

793
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,800
now that's the third fight, So
that's that's a triple header that I've told

794
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,599
you. That's fucking awesome. Now
let's go a little bit more. It's

795
00:50:06,639 --> 00:50:09,880
like against Younis TJ What do you
say now? But wait, there's more,

796
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:15,119
Yeah, there's more. So we
just saw maybe the fight of the

797
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:19,760
year so far in two thousand and
twenty four. That was recent between Odeback

798
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,679
Colmatop and Raymond Ford that they had
up in Verona, New York on ESPN

799
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:28,440
where ray Ford got the last second
stoppage and won the vacant WBA title.

800
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,119
Tremendous battle, really really dramatic,
exciting fight. And we've also seen the

801
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:37,559
performances recently of Nick Ball, great
performance against Isaac Dogbay, had the draw

802
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:42,159
against Ray Vargas challenging for the WBC
title that took place also in Saudi Arabia

803
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:45,119
on the undercart of Anthony Joshua against
the Ganho. Now they're talking about again

804
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:50,320
not done yet about doing ray Ford
in his first title defense against Nick Ball.

805
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,480
Very good fight, two young guys, two quality guys, you know,

806
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:58,199
just just another really quality matchup the
five on five, right, I

807
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:01,880
mean it's it's you know, Matt
room as Ford, Frank Warren and Queensberry

808
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,960
have Nick Ball and that's just another
very quality matchment. And by the way,

809
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,159
just to back up for a second, and the heavyweight fight between Jang

810
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:13,079
and Wilder. Jang obviously is with
Frank Warren. Uh. I'm sure this

811
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,400
was contrived to help it happen,
you know, when they picked the divisions,

812
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,000
they already knew what they were doing. Uh, they made it this

813
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:22,400
look for show when they did that
video. But they're gonna They were allowed

814
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,039
to have a wild card pick and
so wild there will be the matchroom wild

815
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:31,440
Wilder is the wild wild card.
Yes, so now you go beyond that.

816
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,800
Wait wait, wait, wait,
there's more. If they get it

817
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,360
done, this is a fantastic matchup. Then I wish somebody was paying me

818
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:45,320
for all my my my at this
point that you're damn right you've got.

819
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:52,320
Now we've talked about the poor middleweight
division that just is very very lackluss word

820
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:59,400
use your word bereft. It is
bereft or devoid of stars names anybody that

821
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,400
wants to fight, because but most
guys aren't fighting at the middleweight division as

822
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,400
champions. Yes, but there are
three really good up and comers in the

823
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,039
weight class. The young one is
Elijah Garcia that we talked about, who's

824
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,920
going to be on the PBC card
this weekend. He hasn't yet even gotten

825
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,440
to the level of the guys I'm
about to mention, So he's the future

826
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,239
maybe of the division. The two
younger guys that are on the rise who

827
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,519
are prospects, bringe, you know, young contenders, however you want to

828
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:31,199
describe their position. You've got the
match room fighter Austin Amo Williams sixteen and

829
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:36,880
zero, who just look absolutely spectacular
in a knockout on his last fight back

830
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,800
in February, and a couple and
like I think a week later, you

831
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:45,599
had the Frank Warren middleweight, also
undefeated named Hamza Shiraz yes scored a very

832
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:51,159
impressive victory against Liam Williams. They're
going to fight each other on this card.

833
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:54,639
That is a really good matchup.
That's the two best up and coming

834
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:59,480
contenders in the division fighting each other
and not fighting for a world title.

835
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:04,400
I guess maybe it could be wound
up as a eliminator perhaps in some organization,

836
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,079
but they're going to be well paid
and they're going to put those zeros

837
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,280
on the line just because and I
think it's a great matchup. And now

838
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,239
you get to the next one,
and this is a good matchup also,

839
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,039
but it's it's the least of the
ones. I'm gonna mention it, but

840
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:20,719
it's still a worthy fight, especially
if you're a UK boxing fan. You've

841
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,800
got Craig Richards, the light heavyweight
who you know, he's got three losses.

842
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,880
He gave the metri beval though hell
in a really competitive fight, even

843
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,559
though he was a clear loser when
he challenged Bovall a couple of years ago

844
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:34,159
for the title. You know,
he took a little bit of a layoff

845
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:36,480
about two years. He was out
of the ring for for a while for

846
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,960
whatever reason. But he did come
back not that long ago and scored a

847
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:42,199
nice knockout against his opponent. He
took about two or three rounds to get

848
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,480
his groove back, but then he
scored the knockout, so he'll be on

849
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,079
one half. I think you've got
the Queensberry fighter, Willie Hutchinson from Scotland,

850
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,320
who's got one loss but is considered
by basically everybody's one of the great

851
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Scottish amateurs of all time, really
promising fighter in the in the light heavyweight

852
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,119
division, just got a win just
last week or week before, and they're

853
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:04,440
going to fight each other as another
fight that. I think we've got a

854
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,760
little sixteen fights here. So when
do we suspect just to hone it in

855
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,719
that this will start getting announced?
Is it later this week? Is it

856
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,000
going to take a couple more weeks. What's the educated Raphael antanna up speculation.

857
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:17,800
I don't know the date, but
they're going. I don't have the

858
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,079
date off top of my head,
and I don't think they've announced like or

859
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,519
said that they're having this news conference, but there will be a news commerce

860
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:29,519
in London in the next probably a
couple of weeks or so, where they're

861
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:34,519
announce the Bevo Better BV and I
assume they'll do the whole thing all at

862
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,880
once and make a big spectle out
of it. And Turkey in the video

863
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:40,920
was when they were doing the weight
classes that he did the Matchroom has on

864
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,480
their YouTube channel. He was making
the joke with Frank Barren and Eddie Hearn

865
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:47,719
that he wants to have all the
fighters that are on these five on five

866
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,880
fights come to the press cards but
wearing masks so nobody knows who they are

867
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,480
when they pull it all. That's
hard to do. If you're gonna put

868
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:57,559
a mask on a six foot eight, you know, six foot six James

869
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,599
or seven or whatever. He is
big, big big man zang Zli and

870
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:07,119
another really tall man in Deontay Wather. You made me just think of because

871
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:10,599
we are both the same age,
we are both very much alike. We

872
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:15,519
have the same likes in sports,
including professional wrestling. Do you remember in

873
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:19,440
the mid eighties when they decided to
put a mask on Andre the Giant and

874
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,760
have him wrestle in Japan? Yes, and and it was obviously even to

875
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:28,199
little kids, that's Andre the Giant
with a mask on, and he's even

876
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,280
wrestling in Japan, and they're trying
to act like he can speak Japanese.

877
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,880
But the only thing Andre the Giant
could say was hi, which is yes

878
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,320
in Japanese. So they would say, are you ready, sir to get

879
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,480
in the ring? Hi? And
then he would say, are you ready

880
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,039
to beat your opponent? Hi?
That's what you made me just think of.

881
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:46,000
If they do this press conference and
like Jiang comes in at whatever he

882
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:52,239
is, six' five six six
almost three hundred pounds, we know who

883
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,719
that is, whether there's a mask
on or not. I don't know if

884
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:59,000
the mask part of it. And
then I don't know if made me think

885
00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:01,039
about that he's being serious or not. But I don't know. But it's

886
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:05,679
when when they introduced Andre, was
he from a parts unknown? Yes,

887
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,960
you have to be when you're wrestling
with a mask on, parts unknown?

888
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,079
That if they get those all those
fights done that I just mentioned. I

889
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,719
do think there's a very good chance
that most of them will be completed.

890
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,480
I told you Hergovich and why that's
good to go, dude, that's a

891
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:22,119
great card. I agree with you, and I don't use that word lightly.

892
00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:25,440
That's a great cart. Well,
and again, money talks, and

893
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:30,039
the money is flowing like an ocean, like the Red Sea right by Saudi

894
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:35,360
Arabia here for them to make these
fights for right now. The one thing

895
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,320
that we continue to caution is this
is not going to go on forever where

896
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:44,559
they just pay gobs of money for
these different fights indefinitely. I understand what

897
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:46,800
they're doing philosophically right now, so
we'll see. But right now, money

898
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:52,800
talks, and it gets Frank Warren
and Eddie Hearn to the negotiating table for

899
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,039
that. All right, So we
gave you a ton I'm with you.

900
00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:02,079
I'm with you. But I love
all this uh silliness of Saudi Arabia's replacing

901
00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:06,280
Las Vegas all time as the new
place. Yeah, until there's not money,

902
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,920
and then you'll be fighting in Las
Vegas for a lot of these guys.

903
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,400
Las Vegas still has a lot of
fights Canello is fighting that correct this

904
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,280
week? There, that is correct. There's still action in Vegas. It

905
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:21,440
will be numerous more as well coming
up. All right, nostalgia time,

906
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:25,119
So twenty six years ago, as
we released this podcast on Thursday March twenty

907
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:30,519
eighth, nineteen ninety eight, a
Lenox Lewis heavyweight title defense against Shannon Briggs.

908
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:35,559
Makes the nostalgia go ahead because I
may have a little more nostalgia.

909
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:37,480
But what about the nostalgia of this
from nineteen ninety eight, twenty six years

910
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:43,000
ago for Lennox Lewis. Well,
you said it was Lennox Lewis defending the

911
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:46,199
WBC heavyweight title, which is accurate, he was defending the WBC heavyweight title.

912
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:51,239
But some might say even more significant, more important is the fact that

913
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:57,480
Shannon Briggs was defending the lineal heavyweight
title because he had defeated although highly controversial,

914
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,880
he didn't deserve the decision, but
nonetheless, his hand was raised when

915
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:06,079
he defeated George Foreman, you know, several months earlier and became the lineal

916
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:09,239
champion because George had beaten Michael Moore, had been stripped or vacated to various

917
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:13,920
belts, but he never got beat
and so he was fighting still and then

918
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,719
he got the what turned out to
be his final fight. He lost a

919
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:22,199
very controversial majority decision in Atlantic City
to Briggs, and now Briggs was fighting

920
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:25,840
Lennox Lewis in that fight. So
even though the decision in Foreman against Briggs

921
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,599
was terrible, at the very least, it transferred the lineal title to Briggs.

922
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,760
So therefore Lennox Lewis as the WBC
champion. He was able to merge

923
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:39,119
the sanctioning body title with the lineal
title, which is what he kept you

924
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:43,559
know until he you know, lost
to Rockman, but then regained it in

925
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:46,440
the rematch. So that was a
significant fight from the historical perspective. Going

926
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,119
into that matchup that took place in
Atlantic City at the Boardwalk Hall, TJ,

927
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:53,000
there was no expectations for this fight
because people thought Lenox was just going

928
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:57,239
to absolutely, you know, just
to brutalize and destroy Shannon Briggs, which

929
00:58:57,239 --> 00:59:00,360
he ultimately ended up doing. However, getting there made it for a fun

930
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,679
fight because Briggs had a couple of
moments he got off the deck from being

931
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,840
knocked out and it turned in,
you know, to a fight that was

932
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,320
very fun to watch. So but
if you go into something with no expectations,

933
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,440
if it lives up to even a
tiny little fraction or something, you're

934
00:59:14,519 --> 00:59:16,400
overjoyed. I mean, so that's
what this was sort of like. It

935
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,599
turned out to be, you know, a fun fight and a good knockout

936
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:23,320
and good action. And Briggs had
a couple of moments, but Lenox obviously

937
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:28,679
was the more dominating and far superior
fighter. What I remember about it this

938
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,119
is remember this is before my days
as a boxing journalist. Back in March

939
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:37,480
of nineteen ninety eight, I was
covering minor league baseball, working for the

940
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,000
newspaper in Bingham to New York,
and I was sent I covered the Binghamton

941
00:59:40,039 --> 00:59:43,960
Mets, which was the Double A
affiliate of the New York Mets, and

942
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,960
so as the beat writer, I
was on my way. I spent ten

943
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:51,320
days in Port Saint Lucie, Florida, covering spring training, doing something well

944
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:55,320
for like our preview tab and for
some stuff with the major league team.

945
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,480
And I was busy every day going
to the ballpark, and I was staying

946
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,719
with our fatiographer that went with me. We were staying in like a you

947
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,400
know, in a longer term hotel
because we're gonna be there for like two

948
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,079
weeks, TJ. When I tell
you, we must have like a thousand

949
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:13,000
channels in our in our in our
in the apartment that we had, our

950
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:16,519
suite whatever it was a late nineties
cable or direct TV was was honking.

951
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,880
You were every channel you could ask
for. But we did not have HBO.

952
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,119
So I was like, fuck,
I want to watch the fight,

953
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:27,559
Like where I gotta I gotta find
the fight. So I was sitting one

954
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,199
day and that I was sitting like
that batting practice one day, talking to

955
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,239
like the pitching coach and the hitting
coach, and we were shooting the ship

956
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,880
like we were doing every morning.
When I went out there for the beginning

957
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,199
of the day and uh and one
I knew one of the coaches was a

958
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:40,800
little bit of a boxing fan also, and I asked him, I said,

959
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,519
hey, you know you guys are
all Then I was staying at one

960
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:46,159
hotel, but the team basically was
staying at a different location. I said,

961
01:00:46,199 --> 01:00:50,599
you guys have HBO at your hotel
and the guy was like, yeah,

962
01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:52,679
I'm pretty sure we did. So
he gave me the hotel. He

963
01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:53,840
said, how come he's gonna I
want to watch the lennxluisid. He goes,

964
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,840
oh, yeah, that that should
be good. Lennon Sluis heavyweit champ

965
01:00:57,079 --> 01:01:00,159
got to check that out. So
when the night of the fight came,

966
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:02,719
I drove, I rode over to
the hotel, not knowing like if I

967
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,360
wasn't be able to see it or
not. And I said something to like

968
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,360
the valet and I explained to him. I said, you know, listen,

969
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,639
I here. I know the New
York Mets minor league club is standing

970
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:14,920
in your hotel. I'm the beat
writer from the hometown in Binghamton. I'm

971
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,840
a big boxing fan. They told
me, you guys got HBO here is

972
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,119
there is there any place like that
you can watch the fight? You know?

973
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:22,880
He's like, you're a boxing fan, and he goes, I'm a

974
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,559
huge boxing fan. Come with me. He took me to like this.

975
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:29,360
I swear to I never forget this
as long as I live. If you

976
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,679
know on a hotel like you go
like, there's a level that usually asks

977
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:35,440
places where you can have like a
banquet or a wedding, or ballrooms,

978
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:38,159
the ballrooms, conference center or whatever. So this hotel had that. He

979
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:44,599
takes me into like a close you
know bank like a ballroom, if you

980
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:47,480
will, and there's a big TV
like in the corner on a cart and

981
01:01:47,519 --> 01:01:51,400
he puts on HBOS. I'll be
right back, and I'm sitting there in

982
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,480
this ballroom by myself with the big
TV watching the end of like whatever the

983
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,840
movie was on, cause you are
who you are, I mean, he

984
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:02,159
put the HBO fight on. Ten
minutes later, it comes back in.

985
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,760
We shoot the ship for a limit, the fight starts and it was only

986
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,760
like my memory serves only one fight
that night on HBO, so it was

987
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,800
it went pretty quick. We watched
the whole fight, great fight, exciting

988
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,280
fight. Lenox gets to knock out
and and the guy's like that was good,

989
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,960
and he's like, you know,
I was like, thank you very

990
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:21,760
much. And I went back to
my hotel. And so that was my

991
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,000
story of like search around Port Saint
Lucy. Tell me how Valet got a

992
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:29,400
little tip from you? Do you
give him a little uh? He hooked

993
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,719
you up. He hooked you up
for that night. So some good nostalgia

994
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:37,639
and Lennox Lewis put the boom uh
there uh in that instance on Shannon Briggs.

995
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:42,880
Now, normally you're completely in charge
of the nostalgia but you're completely in

996
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,119
charge. You have to Yeah,
but I gotta I gotta interject that if

997
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:52,599
we go all the way back as
we released this podcast to UH for March

998
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:55,840
the thirty first Sunday, for this
weekend coming up, UH, you've got

999
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,280
a triple header. And this was
really unique. This unique in that all

1000
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:05,880
three of these fights were in different
locations, but they were all on network

1001
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,920
TV. On ABC, Larry Holmes
defended the heavyweight title with a win over

1002
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:15,960
Leroy Jones. Kind of a nondescript
heavyweight title fight for him. Sugar Ray

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01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:21,840
Leonard heard of him just after I'm
trying to get in my chronology just before

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01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:25,039
right, he would have fought Roberto
Duran the first time. He's fighting Davy

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01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:29,000
Boy Green of England in another location, I want to say that was in

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01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:31,840
Landover, Maryland at the area where
the Bullet used to play. That's on

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the same night, also on ABC. But the one that I remember vividly

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01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,519
is Big John Tait, the former
US Olympian as the heavyweight champion, the

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01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:45,840
WBA Heavyweight Champion, fighting Mike Weaver
that same night in Knoxville, Tennessee.

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01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,559
And my great state of Tennessee.
The Volunteer State in Knoxville, where Mike

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01:03:50,599 --> 01:03:55,639
Weaver literally lost every round going up
until the fifteenth round. Maybe he heard

1012
01:03:55,679 --> 01:03:58,719
him, I think at the end
of the fourteenth round, so maybe he

1013
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,960
won the fourteenth round. But in
the fifteenth round Mike Weaver hit John Tait

1014
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:09,760
and it was timber face first out
cold, where Mike Weaver as shocking and

1015
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,960
a turnaround knockout win for the heavyweight
title. And I just bring it up

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that all those were on free to
see network TV in three different locales.

1017
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:23,239
But I need to bring up something
else because you thought you fooled me by

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,400
not telling me you were gonna bring
I didn't. I didn't fool you.

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01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,880
I just happened to notice this.
But I'm going to bring jog your memory.

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It was a quadruple header, was
recites because they showed, as you

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01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:39,599
mentioned, the main fights of the
night were was Larry Holmes's heavyweight title defense.

1022
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,199
They did show the Sugar Ray Leonard
fight from Landover, Maryland, and

1023
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,400
they did show Big John Tate in
that massive knockout with Mike Weaver. But

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01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:53,119
they also showed from the fight card
that was taking place in in your neck

1025
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:56,800
of the woods in Knoxville. Prior
to the Weaver fight, the co feature

1026
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:01,239
on the card locally was the light
heavy weight championship fight between Marvin Johnson and

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01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,360
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad. And that was
a fight. I mean, I believe

1028
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,599
it or not. Here's how sick
I am, TJ. You know,

1029
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,000
I have all my uh you know, my my collection of my my videos,

1030
01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:17,119
like you know, people know I
have like the posters and the and

1031
01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:20,239
the programs and all that stuff.
But I have pens of foul. I

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01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,639
might have a hundred thousand fights in
my video collection abouts who knows, I

1033
01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:29,760
mean tens of thousands of fights I
have, uh, the ABC broadcast in

1034
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,679
my collection of that event, and
that was the Eddie Mustapha fight. That

1035
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,559
was the light heavyweight fight, which
was you know the first time they'd had

1036
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:42,679
they called it Knight of Champions on
each on a on on ABC Howard Cosell

1037
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,880
in one location you had do you
know who called your fights in Tennessee that

1038
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,280
night? I believe, hold on, you're hitting me with this. I

1039
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:56,360
believe Keith Jackson, whoa Nellie oh
Nellie john Tati is down and is not

1040
01:05:56,519 --> 01:06:00,400
gonna get up. Holy and then
we're in uh and I I believe in

1041
01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:02,480
Sugar Ray Leonards fight in Maryland,
they had the great Chris Hankle calling the

1042
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:06,719
fights. So think about that.
He got co Cel calling the heavyweight championship

1043
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:10,800
fight in Vegas. He got the
great Keith Jackson, obviously best known for

1044
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:16,079
football, but also did boxing.
Did you know baseball did all that did

1045
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:19,280
a ton of great fights, also
a great other sports as well, calling

1046
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,719
the fights with all the three of
them are in the Broadcasting Hall of Fame

1047
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,400
by the way, They're three of
the best. And they were all caught

1048
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:31,360
again did I say it enough times? Peeps all on Free Network TV that

1049
01:06:31,559 --> 01:06:35,400
night, and it was kind of
an upset because Eddie Mustafa, Uh,

1050
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:40,519
you know one won the WBA light
heavyweight title from Marvin Johnson. Uh.

1051
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:43,159
He was only making it, you
know. He had just won the title

1052
01:06:43,559 --> 01:06:47,079
in his previous fight against Glindez and
uh and he scored it. And this

1053
01:06:47,159 --> 01:06:50,239
is the fifteen round era. He
stopped him in round number eleven. So

1054
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:55,159
that was a fore fight card on
like you said, Prime Time ABC.

1055
01:06:55,679 --> 01:07:00,440
Four fights, three locations, uh, and all world title fights. Great

1056
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:03,760
nostalgia, man, we have had
a ton on this show. Again,

1057
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:09,119
We've got multiple fight cards throughout this
weekend, starting with Friday night, the

1058
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:15,519
ESPN plus Top Rank Show in Arizona, the premiere Boxing Champions Amazon Slash,

1059
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:23,960
PPV dot Com pay perview with Tim
Zoo headlining, plus the Gilberto Ramirez Zerdo

1060
01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:29,480
Ramirez challenging for the WBA Cruiserweight title
in the Dezonne Golden Boys show, and

1061
01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:34,320
then the Sunday show with Boxer with
Fabio Wardley and Fraser Clark the Heavyweights.

1062
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:39,000
Are we gonna have like a three
hour recap show when this is all said

1063
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:40,599
and done. I don't know that
it's gonna be three hours. We got

1064
01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:43,639
a bunch of recap though, coming
off the weekend. We will, and

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01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,960
I hope people will leave us a
review if they like the show. They

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01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,679
should because you're getting all kinds of
stuff here. In terms of news of

1067
01:07:49,719 --> 01:07:53,880
nostalgia besides just the previews, I
can't believe you brought up that card from

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01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:59,199
Knoxville. It's I just remember it. I remember vividly because Big John Tate

1069
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,719
Knoxville ten to see. It was
a big deal. And again, if

1070
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:05,119
you've not seen the knockout, go
YouTube it, go find it because he

1071
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:11,039
literally faced first and laid on the
canvas easily a couple of minutes, maybe

1072
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:15,280
longer. Knocked out. We were
stunning, stunning knockout. He had to

1073
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,000
be helped back to the dressing room
by like he didn't know where it was

1074
01:08:17,039 --> 01:08:20,000
that it was never and was never
the same. What an upset? All

1075
01:08:20,079 --> 01:08:24,279
right, great stuff here, Dan
Rayfield. Have a tremendous weekend. We'll

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01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:28,600
be reading you on your substack.
We look forward to the recap podcast.

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01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,039
By the way, I always do
promote the bet Us show. We've already

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01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:34,640
done the bet Us show for this
week, so it's already there on the

1079
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,079
bet Us Boxing channel. The live
show was earlier in the week. Get

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01:08:39,079 --> 01:08:42,479
our handicap picks on all of these
fights. Well, let's recap it,

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shall we? Coming off the weekend, my friend, we will, but

1082
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,239
we just will make sure it's not
three hours. Yes, we'll do our

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01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:50,600
best to condense it below that.
He's Dan Rayfaield. I'm TJ. Reeves.

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