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here with the famous, the infamous Jay, the top Hension Jay, the
Hood Healer, life Coach, Harmonious, Union Bringer, Dire. I let
these extensions down in honor of tonight show. Nice. Nice Jay's been Jay's
been channeling, channeling for the for the homies and the Hood. We appreciate
that. Kristin been sending me Jeff videos. So I figured out I'm not
a flaccid sack of bones. Bones. That's right. Maybe we should uh,
maybe we should pull that one up, the sack of the sack of
bones. We'll pull that pull I went up a little bit later. But
yeah, we're talking about normy cults and new age madness today. It'll be
a fun stream. There's a couple documentaries that came out that Jay and I
just watched. We're gonna review them for you today, and we're gonna do
a quick overview of what I explored on the last stream but barely even touched
the surface on. And that is the Twin Flames cult, which is calling
Twin Flames in general a cult. Is I don't know, it's an interesting
phenomenon the Internet cults, because a lot of these are really weak. A
lot of these Internet cults are really kind of just surface level. But you
and I we did a stream about six years ago. We kind of talked
I forget which one it was. We talked about the Changing Images of Man,
the Stanford Research Institute document. This was Joseph Campbell and a lot of
these early New Age movement guys, as well as Stanford Research Institute, which
was involved in the in the MK ultra studies, and of course a lot
of the remote viewing exactly, a lot of the remote viewing stuff, a
lot of the strange, kooky stuff that came out in the nineteen seventies.
Stanford Research Institute was kind of at the forefront of this stuff. So you
and I talked about that. We even talked a little bit about, uh
a little a little bit about this stuff in the Terrace McKenna chats that we
did a few years back about these emerging New Age cults and how the Internet
has basically allowed anybody to just become a cult leader. And that's yeah,
you hit you hipped me. It's just some of these people back in the
day, I never heard of nature Boy that went crazy. He's like the
original hood Ealer exactly. Like that's a classic example of the overlap between new
age stuff. We was Kang's right, that's an element of it. We
was spiritual, right, We wasn't sended she and then we had I didn't
realize with the twin Flames stuff that it was like Megan Fox and Machine Gun
Kelly were some of the first in pop culture to use this terminology that she
said, Oh, I realized this dude is my twin flame, and that
sort of got the idea the hashtag out there, and then these two goobers
will be talking about today, lashed onto it and kind of went crazy with
it. And that's why I had people maybe three weeks ago they were saying
to me, hey, please cover the Twin Flames cult. I had no
idea what they were talking about. But also, I think TikTok plays a
big role in, you know, getting these ideas out there and giving them
a lot of tension, most of which things don't deserve any attention at all.
TikTok is just a factory of mental illness beyond anything that you see on
Twitter or YouTube. Yeah. Yeah, the TikTok calts, the Instagram cults.
Before TikTok was even out, you had a lot of these kind of
hood healer guys, which was Jeff is not. I think Jeff really wishes
he had the charisma and the hood healing abilities of nature boy, but of
the Twin Flames cult is of kind of the same cloth, right. But
yeah, the hood healers in the black community, the the kind of creepy
loser white dudes in the white conscious community or whatever you want to call it,
the like millennial losers who were told by their parents that they can be
anything, that they're so amazing, that they're so talented, and then move
on to go to college and then after college become Facebook group curators and ultimately
cult leaders like like this Jeff guy. So yeah, man, so this
is We watched two documentaries. We watched the there's an Amazon one and there's
a Netflix one. I'm not really sure what the dynamics were behind the scenes.
I don't really care, you know, I mean, this was kind
of it seemed like one of them got in touch with one of them started
getting into with some of the members of the so called Twin Flames universe.
Cult, and then the other one picked up on it and kind of kind
of went with it. There was a Vanity Fair article exposing some of these
guys by a journalist that was involved with the Amazon Prime production, and then
there was I think the Netflix one was a little bit the maker of the
Netflix documentary was a little bit less of a character within it as the journalist
one from the Amazon documentary is. But I've got some information on on Jeff
the cult leader. Here, got a bunch of notes from these from these
documentaries. Explain to people who didn't know, because a lot of people don't
know exactly what the thesis of the Twin Flames cult is, because they have
a few basic ideas, maybe that'd be good because I didn't know until pretty
recently. I just heard this term, and I'm like, what does that
mean. I'm not trying to tell you how to run your show. I'm
just trying to tell you how to run your show. Yeah, yeah,
well it's our show. This is our our weekly struggle session here who can
eumiliate the other person into admitting their they're a fascist a bigot basically? Right?
Yeah, Well, we we're proud bigots here on on this channel.
We don't hide it, like like some of these closeted bigots over over with
with the nerds. It's so called nerds over at j Dyers Nerds. They
try to hide their bigotry. So yeah, basically, the the twin flames
thing is a concept similar to soulmates that a lot of these New Age kind
of people have picked up. Right, there's this lady called if you try
to go back and trace back the etymology of the term this, it's been
used for a while, this ship called Dolorous Cannon. This old boomer lady
Dolorous Cannon was talking about this quite a few years back. This type of
stuff has been on the Internet since at least like the late nineties. So
the very concept of twin flames actually an article here. Let me find this.
Let me find this article that talked a little bit about the history of
twin flames. But it's a it's kind of an offshoot of the like spiritually
conscious uh new Age spirituality movements where what it what it is now is much
less uh, it's much less cerebral and involved than it maybe was in the
nineties and in the two thousands. Now it seems like it's just a bunch
of bored millennials who have hung out at too many like wellness spas. Basically,
it's like a bunch of a bunch of yoga chicks and creepy, creepy
yoga dudes who've latched onto some of this terminology. Beyond that too, I
think there's a pattern I noticed because there's a lot of similarities and overlaps with
Teal Swan and if you watch the Deep End episodes and some of Teals Juan's
stuff, what we see is that these new age life coach griff people all
have the same type of speak, they all have the same modes and methods.
They all want to deal with their traumas. And you'll notice the audience.
The makeup of the audience is almost always about sixty to seventy percent overweight,
lonely women, so they really target and market that demographic. There's gonna
be the occasional snag is the term Jamie uses sensitive new age guy, So
you'll find the occasional snag there. The soy man who does yoga sprinkled in
about one amongst ten, one or two amongst ten like that. Aby what
is it? The acronym sneaky new sneaky new age guy, sleezy new age
guy, sensitive sense itve I like that, I like that. How about
sneak, sleezy, sensitive new age guy. I actually prefer the really feely
new age guys. My acronym is actually, yeah, we're on YouTube,
so fanag so you'll notice the audience is like know, honestly, it's chunky,
lonely chicks. That's their demographic. And and some of the clips even
have Jeff kind of realizing that he's figured this out, right, Yeah,
yeah, I got you. Yeah there, Well he figures that out,
and then he also his chick who he end up he ends up meeting,
becomes chunkier with time, and then he turns that into a thing where he
actually tells everybody, all of his viewers and all of his audience members,
that the women should start gaining weight and that this is really attractive, and
that he like prescribes a high carb Divine meal, Yes, the Divine Meals,
which is very high carved, low quality food diet that fattened everybody up.
I mean this one chick and the cold gained like seventy pounds. So
his girl gets all fat and then he's like he makes everybody else in like
it makes everyone else in his equal gets super fat. So I found this
article that gives a little bit of history on it. Right, So I
guess back in the even the early two thousands, there was very little as
far as Google searches for the term twin flames. But they started popping up
around terms like psychic spiritual websites, other terms like soul family, and then
also stuff like toxic relationships. So these are kind of the search terms that
this is associated with. And these people, some of these people try to
trace this back to Plato. So they clay, Now, I know you've
read all there is to read from Plato. Apparently in plato Symposium. Yeah,
so the symposium by Plato. Apparently this is what the new agers claim.
I think they're trying to read it into this. In the Symposium,
Plato presents the theory of Aristophanes. He explains the original humans had four arms,
four legs, a single head with two faces, and two sets of
genitalia. These were the very original humans. They are what we now call
twin flames. There are supposedly seventy two tho twin flames. It is set
into the symposium that these humans had great power, they became a threat to
the gods who considered eradicating them. So, dude, I'd actually never heard
that that specific description of the protocures from I don't recall that. It's a
supposium is really long and kind of boring. It's the mature, it's a
it's a it's kind of like laws. I think it's later. I meant,
it's been years since I've looked at it, but I didn't actually know
that was in there, so I recall it, but I wouldn't be surprised,
because, you know, reincarnation is a big part of Platonism, and
reincarnation does play into the twin flames ideology because the principle at work there is
if you are in a tough situation with the person that's supposed to be your
twin flame, you have to keep going at it because it might take you
getting a restraining order before they realized that they really do love you. Yeah.
Yeah, well, if you don't that, Jeff eventually starts dispensing seeing,
uh, you know, reincarnation papal punishments, right. He says,
you'll be banished for ten lifetimes from finding your soulmate. If you disagree with
me, it's one of these messages. Yeah. Well, and then they
kind of they mix this stuff all together to the idea of past lives,
reincarnation, uh, karma, karmak debt, and especially the the idea of
trauma. So you'll notice throughout these New Age cults and among these life coaches,
uh, and these these e grifters, which there I mean there are
these life coaches are also in you know, like the Christian world as well.
I was going to ask you, Yeah, don't you think this applies
across the board to just the idea of the life coaching grift? Now,
yeah, I take that to be different than like, you know, men,
there are men's groups in the Orthodox world, for example, that help
men deal with certain things, help them become men. There's guys out there
helping to be therapists to people who have issues. Uh. You know,
I'm not knocking every single idea of a lay person being involved in some kind
of thing like that, but the pattern here seems to be like with people
that we've seen on Twitter, right, they are new converts, they haven't
been Orthodox very long. They immediately set up they're super spiritual pseudospiritual Orthodox counseling
life coaching grift, and the key element here is that there's never any oversight
of anybody who would actually be like a spiritual father. It's all just sort
of on their own authority. And that makes sense with the life coaching grift
as it comes out of all of the New Age positive thinking you know sphere.
Yeah, well, what's funny you see some of these There are a
couple there are a couple guys, one of them, I know I'm blocked
by on Twitter. I don't even remember why this guy blocked me. But
there are a few profiles on Twitter from these kind of like the Orthodox guys
who literally present themselves as coaches, life coaches, spiritual thing therapist type people.
I mean, it's it's I think it's pretty creepy. I think it's
kind of weird. But they do often come from like a New Age background
as well. So, I mean a lot of these guys are coming straight
out of the New Age coach grift world and maybe just kind of clinging on
to some of those some of those aspects of other former kind of life in
the New Age. So and as somebody who you know has looked at the
diet New Age sphere for many years, the health sphere. Wouldn't you agree
that, generally speaking, that the life coach thing is a grift in your
experience, I was kind of the Orthodox world, but just kind of across
the board, I mean across the board. The whole life coach thing has
really blown up. I guess in the last three years. I guess since
twenty twenty, since all the lockdown stuff happened, this has become a lot
more prominent, more people online, more boomers online, more millennials just living
chronically on line. So yeah, I think I think this has become become
not just a big grift, but it's become a big problem. Now what's
now I'm not saying like there aren't people well, all right, so the
the whole New Age spirituality, vegan world, there's a huge overlap there,
and you've got a lot of people who are searching for meaning, right,
a lot of people who are isolated, a lot of people that are like
just basically desiring desiring more in life. And we've had we were kind of
at this crossroads in our culture. We had this major, uh kind of
intersection between two worlds, right, you've got the like liberal classical liberal order
is crumbling to a certain extent, and this kind of global hegemonic mcmonoculture that
is built on the refuse of classical liberalism and the logical conclusion of like classical
liberalism is coming in and people feel isolated. People field the humanized. I
mean, you look at you look at pop culture, you look at mass
media, and what kind of the millennial generation, what our generation was was
raised on was was was pop culture was you know, cartoon characters that are
the humanizing, semi faceless sitcoms that are built all around a stupid, useless
father and a you know, kind of domineering mother that really kind of runs
the show. Ye, and we've got we've got a really a broken generation,
and that generation is looking for some meaning. They're looking for a way
out of isolation, and a lot of them are a lot of them have
been online for a long time, and a lot of them are just starting
to realize that you can make all these you know, connections to kind of
enter these different realities somewhat through the Internet. I think a lot of this
was foretold by guys like Leary, by guys like McKenna, who talked about
the kind of pause that did that transhumanism and brain brain machine interfaces and human
beings being more interconnected through tech, that we would be able to make our
own realities, to curate our own realities, to curate our own kind of
avatars in a false world. And I think this whole ascension thing is an
interesting reflection of that. So these are the people who are really into this
twin flame stuff, are more are less of the psychonot types and more of
the just normy, fat chicks living off McDonald's, working at a convenience store
that are trying to deal with their feelings of you know, becoming an adult
but being completely isolated, having no family, having no roots, having no
culture, being derascinated. Then you think you kind of see this throughout these
movements. The vegan movement is one of these things that gives people meaning they
become activists. Right, your whole lifestyle becomes this ascetic journey, your your
hero's journey to save the animals, to you know, starve yourself on behalf
of the animals. So these some of the more visceral and more overtly dangerous
cults, like veganism, where you're actually doing physical harm. That's more obvious.
Whereas the twin flame stuff, these are people looking for love, looking
for their you know, their their strong connection. They want harmonious union,
which is the term that Jeff started to use with his little mini cult.
But I think really what we see here is just one facet, one little
little tiny facet on the giant demonic kind of multifaceted gemstone that is the the
Internet, which allows people to just make your own cults, like a kaleidoscope
of little mini cults. Yeah, we were talking with Father Deacon about the
the online life coach Grift, Spiritual Life Coach Grift, and he made a
great point. We were talking about how a lot of this is abstracted,
so it's once removed and even twice removed from real life. And so the
Internet is kind of a it's almost kind of a Protestant abstracted thing, right,
The idea that you could have church online, you know, you've got
to have an embodied, real thing like the Eucharus, like all that stuff
in our theology is all, you know, physical and embodied. It's not
abstracted. So the very idea of life coaching, somebody even suggested might even
just kind of be a Protestant idea, right, like back in the eighties
and nineties, Process and the Evangelicals would have this idea of accountability partners,
and this would be like the you know, the idea of an elder that
holds you accountable. And you know that the idea itself isn't necessarily bad people.
Young guys might need mentors and stuff like that, but it just becomes
this domain that's, like you said, really right for creeps and weirdos,
and as father Deacon said, really unqualified people. Right, That's the key
question here is what qualifies a person to be a mentor life coach or in
this stuff. And it's not that I want to or he even he was
saying that, it's not that we want to say, oh, the state
grants the qualification. It's not really an issue of the state doing it or
whatever. It's more so like literally who actually is fit to do that?
That means that you, in your own life have come to some degree of
wisdom. You're probably older, all right, right, I mean, like,
as even one of the guys in the documentary says, what sort of
life coaching advice is a twenty five year old dude who hasn't done anything going
to give yeah, right, it's not in a position to give that advice.
And what do we see on the internet over and over and over with
many of these life coaches is that they don't they're not in a position to
do that. In fact, I was sent a video of another woman who
this was by a listener to what we talked about. She said, check
out this woman. And the woman herself was a person who had had severe
mental problems in her own past and then she became a life coach, and
the stuff she was saying was also out there and crazy. It's like,
this person's not in a position to be a lie of coach. And so
what you notice is that messed up people are trying to fix people. But
it's a total grift. It's it's and and they figured out, I think
you figured out early on that this was the real market to target because he
was a finance bro. As they said, he wanted to be a stock
dude. He wanted investments. Right when he comes out of high school.
We're talking about Jeff, right, So, yeah, Jeff is his name,
but he never even he He's reckoned himself, almost like a finance bro
and they say that he studied everything you could find about Warren Buffett, which,
like, what does that even mean for the average millennial? To me,
that means like this, some stoner kid bought like a couple of books
on Warren Buffett. He bought two bios from on Warren Buffett from from Amazon,
and it maybe skimmed them, right. I mean, he came right
out of college and then moved to move to like Maui somewhere in Hawaii.
Moved to Hawaii, and then all of a sudden, and then all of
a sudden, he grows his hair really long and starts talking about his spirituality.
In the point, I think they mentioned that he experimented with the mt
or something. At this point, Well he he you know, in the
in the second So there are two documentaries, right, there's the Amazon one
and there's the Netflix one. In the beginning of the Netflix one, they
show a screenshot of his of his let's see his travel blog, right,
became a travel blogger. So I mean, this is a guy that became
a travel blogger, and then soon after he became a travel blogger, starts
being a business coach. He never ran a business in his life. So
there's a guy that had no idea about business and he becomes a business coach.
So in the his Hero's Journey, so he was obsessed with like the
Joseph Campbell stuff. You'll see this throughout throughout. I mean, we mentioned
Stanford Research Institute's Changing Images of Man study, which Joseph Campbell was heavily involved
in. So they showed that. Let me, they showed this the Hero's
Journey. There's a screenshot of his blog a result of cannabis experimentation. Yes,
so he became a life and career coach and then he meets his his
chicken like Sedona. So you've got to grifter basically, people who've never experienced
much at all in life. This guy graduated college in two thousand and they
say, god it, I think he gives in twenty ten or twenty twelve.
He got a university, got a business degree, and then immediately starts
coaching people on business. It's like, dude, you count you had never
even you never even ran about. It's crazy, but yeah, but people
in this domain figure out right that it's not even about the business. And
this is probably why or teaching business, this is probably why you transitioned over
into the new ag stuff is. I think Rick Warren figured this out,
you know, twenty years ago. And by the way, if you don't
remember, he's like the super duper evangelical mega church pastor consults and helps him
praise with Obama. He ends up being a member of the Council on Foreign
Relations, Right, But he writes this mega famous book, Purpose Driven Life,
which evangelical world and even outside of the evangelical world over into the self
help world. Right. He cornered this market like at a crazy level,
kind of a pseudo Christian version of In the nineties, there was the Celestine
prophecy, right. I remember this, and this is another kind of self
worship thing. It's all about me. I'm going to find my purpose,
purposerving life. I think is like a pseudo Christian like, Oh God is
your purpose? Right? What God that you know? Celestine prophecies is.
I think that was mid two thousands. I mean that became really popular,
like maybe too. I watched the nineties movie and it was it was in
the movie Wow. So it was around Okay. I feel like it picked
up steam with with kind of millennials in the mid two thousands I remember reading
that in like two thousand and seven. A friend of mine was like,
oh, dude, you got to read this book. And I had already
been you know, I'd already kind of delve deeply into uh Taoism and Alan
Watts and a lot of this stuff. So to me, the Celestream Prophecies,
it was like, this is corny. This is like a you know,
like a kid's book introduction to this is like a children's book introduction to
New Age spirituality, which I'd kind of been dabbling in since high school.
So yeah, that that book for sure has an influence on people like this.
And it seems like Jeff and Shaliah basically like read the Celostine prophecies,
maybe skimmed the hero's journey or like watching an online webinar on right. And
then there's also they hold up the is it Krishna Murdy or one of the
They've got the autobiography of a Yogi, that's it. They've got that Course
of Miracles. They I think they're a little bit influenced by that, or
at least he wanted you to think he was reading Course of Miracles because he
had that posted up in his bookshelf behind him. But all these yeah,
like, yeah, exactly, so do your Rantia books stuff like that.
Now he didn't mention the Rancho book, but these are all these are all
kind of presenting and positing the same thesis of basically kind of a perennialist approach
to New Age spirituality. Uh, copy and paste stuff from all the different
religions and just pick whatever you like. And really it comes down to whatever
makes you feel good, whatever you resonate with, whatever brings you bliss.
They figured out that most people are asking and seeking for a couple of things.
Right, everybody wants to know, as Bud Fox says, who am
I? Everybody wants As Derek Zulander said, even better, everybody's looking for
their purpose and everybody's looking for love. And part of what they've done here
is combine those two into your purpose is the person that you think or we
think, is your true eternal love, your twin flame. So they,
in a very cunning way, combined the two most basic human drives into and
questions into one sort of course that they start to devel But I like that
he made that point. Right. He goes from business coaching and then it
turns into life coaching explicitly, they become life coach. And so how do
you I mean I think that became about Yeah exactly, because I mean those
are such broader grifts. Whereas like business coaching, anybody who knows anything about
business, nobody's gonna pay you anything. Dude, Like, no one's gonna
pay you. You're a twenty four year old retard who lives in Hawaiian smokes
pot all day. Nobody cares what you have to say about business. Nobody's
looking at you for business advice. What businesses have you built and scaled?
What I mean, you know what businesses have you built, scaled and sold?
You've done nothing right, so you have no achievements. Whereas with New
Age spirituality, the average normy who finds some stupid Facebook group when they're depressed
and alone. Uh, they're gonna see any dude with like long hair and
a little beard hair who looks into the camera. That's like you mean like
this, yeah exactly, Like yeah, Jay's got it, Jays. I
mean, if you didn't have those, you gotta get some different glasses.
Yeah, full the glasses. And what do I need to talk about?
Well, let's see the keywords would be like ascension, ascension, healing your
trauma, healing your trauma. How to it was just owning, you know,
just starting out with like a deep breath and an ome, big deep
breath in an ome, telling people how to breathe. We exercise. We
all store trauma in our bodies, and certain chakras can be the storehouse of
those traumas. For example, Tristan stores a lot of trauma in his face
and you can see it as he talks to you. You can just see
it's a traumatic face. And I want to help him release that by by
finding someone who can work with his root chakra to achieve zone theory, consciousness,
consciousness and ascension that basically would allow him to see his true flame.
That is this working. Yeah, that's good, that's good. Okay,
I'm about to send you one eleven dollars and eleven cents right now. That's
yeah, that's an synchro mystic number. So so I mean, really,
they just this is what they do. They string together lists of buzzwords and
and have understood that a lot of these people, a lot of these people
that are looking they're basically looking for like a therapist. But they don't secular
therapy, isn't you know? They they're I'm too spiritual for therapists, right,
I don't need like, I don't want a therapist. The secular version
of this is the therapist. Yeah. The coaching sessions are listening to people's
problems and bs and then Jeff tells you to just mirror it or he basically
like calls you an idiot. That's a lot of the clips. Yep.
Yeah, so you guys noticed that the mirroring thing was really weird, and
this is where it starts getting over into like the psia my control element.
I don't think that Jeff is actually that smart too actually be like a mictral
handler, but he's savvy enough to know that a few little you know,
NLP style techniques and weird tricks, like every time you disagree, it's because
you're disagreeing with yourself. If you have a problem with me or with anyone
else, it's ultimately the problem you have with yourself. Right, So the
mirroring is this weird like you're always wrong, you're always the source of every
problem technique. Yeah, yeah, you know, and it's it's kind of
a hypnotic technique as well, speaking of which, I want you guys all
to look look deep down inside and realize that any superchats that you send to
Jay and I, you're really sending to yourself. So if you want to
manifest abundance, if you want to manifest the most abundance, and you just
go ahead and send those superchats over I suggest too. Yeah, So if
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angel number is four forty four because he is he has that beautiful angelic hairs
frequency. That's right. So every super chat that you send through stream labs,
especially because YouTube does take a cut every super Jay I'm levitating. Actually
I manifested that. Actually just managed you guys just levitated me with his mind.
Yeah, I just want to say, I just want to it was
obviously only his mind. Yes, No, I I manifested that. Everything
that I see, I manifested. So I want to say, you're welcome
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Shellia's twin flame stuff. I mean they're they're ascended way beyond this. Their
grift is is another level. They're talking about specific races, like what alien
race? I mean, yeah, they're like fifth dimension consciousness. Yeah,
absolutely, well Arcturians, Like I'm an Arcturian. Jay's obviously he's He's like
a lower vibrational little They say, no, you're not a Blue Avian.
J You're me. I got a lot of chicken feathers, And no,
you're an Alfred Draconian. You're an Alfa Draconian and you're trying to present as
a blue Avian with your blue light. But we see Livering House Slytherin Alpaderconian
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We had Greg the Barene done in fifteen bucks over on stream Labs,
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that is one of the secret powers of the e coach Grift. I know
j Jay's got something to say here. You tell what I'm doing? Are
you? It's like you doing raiki blowing the spiritual whistle because I'm your spiritual
life coach. Yeah, well I just manifested that, so I obviously knew.
I was just pretending not to know. I was pretending I didn't know.
How do how do we know that we're not all the dream of a
dog or that we're the dream of Jeff divine Jeff Athos. By the way,
does anybody in the chat get that reference? Obscure reference? No?
I actually what is that? What is that even? Reference? The line
from Freaking Geeks? Yeah, anyway, so yeah, we're talking about Jeff.
Jeff and his mirror exercise. You just got into the mirror exercise.
You want to go ahead and explain a little bit what the mirror exercise excused
on it? Because I listened and I was a little Basically, it just
sounded like Jeff always telling the people in the counseling sessions. He says,
this is your number one tool, and then he says, anytime you encounter
a problem, opposition, feeling bad, whatever, turn it on yourself and
let it be about yourself based on love. So I never I never really
understood what that meant except that the problem here is you in every every instance.
Is that? Is that what it means? Well, I've actually got
the mere exercise. Let me got this this gay screen rab of Jeff right
here. This is the leader of this cult. By the way. It
just shows you this. That's all it takes, guys. All it takes
a little long hair goofy effeminate dude. And he calls himself the divine masculine
even even at one point said that he is the reincarnation of Christ. He
tries and I think he backed off of that. I think he was just
like, I think he tried that for a few weeks and it was just
like nah, right, maybe he you know, trip balls on acid or
something. And then I ended up coming down he was the Christ and then
lost a few of his paid subscribers. Yeah, I like, all right,
I can't. I guess I can't beat the Christ anymore. Here's here's
the mirror exercise official video. Let me actually here what I'll do for you,
Jay. I'll put the put the mic over here next to the excellent
you're upset or something bothered. Are you upset or something bothering you? Do
the mirror exercise learn in the short video how to Heal your upsets by Loving
yourself Using the mirror exercise sought by Jeff and Shelia. It teaches you how
to love yourself from within and take your power back from anything outside of you
that is making you unhappy. In this example, we see how Susie heats
herself from feeling rejected. Step one, identify the absent. I yeah,
you can hear it, but you can't see it, right I can.
You can't hear it. I'm watching it now Bob because he is rejecting me.
Step two. Change all of the nouns and pronouns to point to yourself.
I am upset at myself because I am rejecting myself. Step three is
this true? Hint? The answer is always yes. Yes. I reject
myself because I always tell myself I don't deserve love. I am doing this
to myself what Bob does to me. Step four, Give yourself the love
that you need. Go within, to me that part of you who feeds
upset, ask what it needs to feel loved, and give it onto that
touch. Someone said union practice. I didn't know that. Yeah, I
mean it's this video's pace is terrible, but yeah, this is I think
one of the more popular videos. But if you look, they made a
Netflix documentary and an Amazon Prime documentary over this and their most popular videos.
It's got one hundred thousand views, So it's it's it's interesting. I'm not
sure why Netflix and h and Prime became so interested in this. It's uh,
it seems a little bit well, they're trying to act like this is
some huge cult and like Jeff is this uber powerful cult leader. I mean
they've got a Facebook group and a mildly popular YouTube channel. Their YouTube channel
has a eighteen point seven thousand subscribers, and their average video views are like,
I mean, their average video views are lower than this channel huge.
Yeah, I thought it had to be because because of Facebook, because I
had the same question, like I've never heard of this YouTube channel has eighteen
thousand, and I'm guessing it's because Facebook groups have like one hundred thou So
yeah, I think the Facebook group is their main thing. The YouTube videos
are probably just this. I mean, this is probably a different realm.
So I don't think they're I don't think they're super popular on YouTube. You
can see there one thing I get right, She's got two million on Facebook,
like a million on YouTube, so her whole thing makes sense why there
would be a documentary. But she's actually massive. This is like I'm by
the end of this documentary, we can we can kind of go through the
progression of ideas and these docs too, but by the end of these I
was kind of left, you know, laughing at the documentary itself. And
they're really trying to blow this up and act like this is Jeff and Jeff
and Shaliah, these two are so dangerous. I mean, but these are
just your average spiritual guru fake life coaches online. Like they're not doing anything
outrageous. So they're not trying to get their their cult too well. I
mean they are, there are a few things that they began doing, I
think, especially recently, but they're they're not like they haven't gotten people to,
you know, off themselves. They haven't gotten people well till Swan has.
And you know, she's like about thirty times bigger than these people.
So yeah, and these people are kind of dumb, like you actually you
watch their videos and they're not that talented as like NP practitioners. They're not
really particularly good as New Age gurus, and they seem like kids who just
kind of barely did their homework trying to trying to pass the spiritual gurull.
It looked like Jeff is kind of making it up and rebranding things as it
went right, So he went from business life coach, then it becomes a
new Age life coach. Then she gives him the idea of the twin flames
thing that turns into a bigger model by which they could start having meetups.
And their meetups were like thirty fifty people, right, it wasn't even as
small as I mean, you know till swan feels an auditorium, right,
I mean again, it's like not not that big of a of a of
a thing, but all of the red flags are already there though for all
the science warning signs of the guy immediately buys a Porsche the first the first
person they interview, she says, I was a vegan, pan sexual looking
for companionship. Yeah, And so I found them talking about this because of,
you know, the twin flames idea, and I want to check that
out and what is it? And the darker part though, is that even
the Vice Chick documentary of Vanity Fair, they were like even forced to admit
that these people started really pushing the idea that you could change into another gender.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, Well it's a darker. And then did
you remember the Pentagon woman, supposedly this army chick shows up. Yeah,
that was kind of strange. So you have the special this uh, this
one of the coaches, one of the twin Flame Universe coaches, which they
basically they made this into a multi level marketing. So they use their Facebook
group to initiate other twin Flame coaches and basically all you have to do to
become a twin Flame coach is buy all their coaching packages and they're all Liken
dollars and twenty two dollars four thousand, four and four and it goes all
the way to i think the the top tiers nine and ninety nine dollars for
everything. So there were people actually buying this stuff and they made, you
know, moderate amount of money. I mean, Jeff and Schilia basically bought
like an upper middle class, upper lower upper class house like Lake Michigan.
Is that where it was. It was kind of a lake house that they
ended up buying. So they made they made a decent amount of money on
this, but they didn't become multi billionaires. They didn't become probably even really
multimillionaires. He claims he's a multi millionaire, but who knows that. Yeah,
I mean, he had like some corvettes. And it's funny because you
see him becoming more and more materialistic, and they talk about the materialistic ass
of what he's doing. How becomes more materialistic as he moves forward and gets
more money. But yeah, he basically recruits a bunch of people to become
life coaches through this Facebook group, and of course these life coaches have to
promote the Twin Flames universe, which is their little mini cult, right,
And the goal of this is to find your twin flame and reach what they
call harmonious union. And the way you reach harmonious union is basically Jeff declares
that you've reached harmonious union. He tells you you've reached harmonious exactly after you've
paid the various course tiers, like you said, and yeah, I made
a note too, of all of the gibberish terms. You just spit them
out in different combinations. So there's divine guidance, healings, awakened, intimacy,
ascension. All of that is really just garbled and spit out when it's
needed. There's even somebody that made like a new age generator, you know,
like a like a sight that you go to and you just hit it
and it randomizes and it spits out this stuff like it sounds like Jeff right,
just a randomizer. Did you notice too that when they were first shown
chanting, that she's chanting Kalim made me think of the guy in Templa Doom
right, Mola Ramu tears out hearts. But when they first show Shaliah,
she's going O Kalima, O Kalima and Kalima. That's like the you know,
Thuggie cult, heartwork, human sacrifice cult. So whatever. Anyway,
Harmonious Union I forgot about Hermo. It's a very high vibration. He says,
when you're at harmonious Union, and it is Jeff that determines that.
And of course if you're a couple that's in harmonious Union and you split up,
you have to be back with that person because of course the cult determines
it. Even if Jeff has decided that it's two women or two men,
or that you need to transition because you actually have a masculine dominant personality.
A lot of this is based on the yin yang idea that and this is
also a Jungian thing too, right, like every man has both male and
female in him, and sometimes the male is more dominant dominant, sometimes the
female. Likewise, a woman has both sides in her. So the idea
then is that, oh, well you might actually be a tomboy as a
girl, so that actually actually need to be a dude. Right, And
they start pushing this because the body doesn't reflect the inner, right, the
inner being. The inner being might be a woman trapped in a man's body.
So it gets weirder and weirder as their cult progresses. Yeah, well
it's funny because he you mentioned earlier, he just develops it kind of spitballs
at as he goes. So he starts out with, well, you got
to find your twin flame. Look at me and Shalia, we're so in
love. Oh look at this video of us kissing, and they're just essentially
basic bitch vlaw that we're talking about. Well, look at our look at
our lovely relationship. You can be like this, look as spiritual we are,
We like buy crystals and stuff, and we say all the spiritual buzzwords.
We talk about a sending vibration and resonance and harmony and energy, and
we had to get rid of our blocks, all right. So then they
turn this into you could be like us, we're gonna coach you. So
then they start coaching a few couples, and then they get those people to
become coaches, and then it starts to get weirder as they get different types
of couples. Like some of the first couples they had were well, there
was one lesbian couple, and this lesbian couple had had harmonious union. But
then it turns out later that Jeff comes up with this idea, well,
there's got to be a masculine and a feminine twin flame. You're like a
divine masculine or a divine feminine. And I Jeff's clearly the divine masculine,
as you can see in his hyper faggy fish just the most I mean giga
Chad, I mean he's actually I think Jeff. I want to email to
support Jeff. That's what I'm saying, Like, we need to get I
think Jeff should be on the Chad mode bottle. They have this stupid guy
that looks like I mean, look at this guy. They got this Chad
guy right here, supposedly a Chad. We've got the real uber giga Chad.
You know this this Jeff, he's like four thousand, four hundred and
forty four giga tons of giga Chad. The dies cliff right, he's about
to. I mean, I mean if he if Jeff doesn't give you a
divine bone, then then then you must be You're sparsely flaccid, You're blocked.
You have a block, really, so you have to work on your
limp. Yeah, absolutely, like limp biscuit, but it's your soul and
not a biscuit. Yeah, like a limp, like a limp, like
a you know, like a limp beyond sausage, just hanging there. You
know. I mean it might sound gross, but but you know it's it's
your own block that make it sound gross. So yeah, he's there's only
divine masculine, divine feminine. He came up with that later and then he
kind of starts telling people that that are in the cult at a certain point,
which it seems like it reached this point where he became more and more
demonic, and became more and more controlling, obsessed with controlling people, and
realized that, wow, these people will really do whatever I say. They
will just that, Yeah, they'll do whatever I say. Stupid level authority.
Yeah, he says that he's a really corny guy, so you can
see he loves this. He loves the power he has over people, which
is you know, I mean, one of the one of the things that
the documentaries point out is that, yeah, anybody can just become Jeff is
the perfect example that anybody can become a guru online, anybody can become a
cult leader, anybody can find people that are a little bit more broken than
them to prey upon, which is real sad. So yeah, yeah,
one of the one of the signs is that they will always go to finding
and healing the traumas. Okay, And this is really a disservice to people
who actually have gone through trauma, because now all of these people are basically
furthering the idea that every single individual who's ever had anything happen to them is
trauma. Everything's trauma now, right. If a millennial is late for work
or a zoomer and the boss yells at them, Oh, those traumatized dealing
with trauma, Like this is the stuff you were lampooning recently, right,
the mental healths and the I need my safe space, so I have to
take like I have to take what do they call it, like a self
love break from work for a week. I need some care break from work.
No, everything's about self care. Everything's therapy. Yeah, you know,
this is so. And this is the people they're you know, going
for is uh, you know, millennial and of aged women basically who are
lonely wine moms. Another thing too that and this could even be the case
with Jeff and Shalia themselves. I notice a lot of the people that they
interview and the people that are the broken target audience here there probably a lot
of them are on SSRs, especially that chick who was the DJ. Remember
her, Yeah, yeah, that was you know, she was like a
she was Stanford educated and was a not a neuroscientist. She was like some
sort of a molecular molecular biologist or something. She was like a high level
scientist and she joined this cult. But you could see she's you know,
twitching and she's got this, she's on, she's on, you know,
multiple of that kind of stuff. Yeah, probably probably anti psychotics because she
she was kind of a little bit psychotic. This specific woman ended up she's
one of the more interesting characters. She ended up stalking her ex boyfriend and
getting arrested. But she because she she had a restraining order against he that
had been enforced multiple times from her twin flame and Jeff and Shehlia kept telling
her, why are you backing up? Don't we call it honey badger?
You can't back down, right, so you basically promote stalking or bizarre.
Yeah, because they've determined that you're with your twin flame. Even if the
twin flame breaks up with you, you honey badger. It meaning that you
never stop stalking and pursuing them, Yeah, which is just weird. It's
an odd model of a cult. But that was something that you noticed.
I did that stream the other day about the twin Flame world, and that
was my first introduction to it, and almost every twin Flame TikToker talks about
there's a runner. One of the twin Flames is a runner and one is
a chaser. And the runner is always pursuing the chaser, and I mean
it's it's kind of baked into it, this creepy obsessive inability to let go
from some of these people. And a lot of people are talking about their
twin flame is their ex boyfriend, Right, so my ex boy friend he
broke up with me, and he's he's my twin flame, and Jeff and
Shelia will then reinforce, yeah, he's your twin flame, well too.
Yeah, and Jeff noticed that they needed to go into groups to recruit people,
where they went into PTSD groups, fibromyalgia health problem groups of psychological problem
groups looking for people to bring into their stuff and what's the word they use,
like lemiting limerens. I was in this. He looks for people that
are in limeerates, which is like really upset and you can't get over somebody
that it's like an obsessive state. It's a state of when you can't stop
thinking about somebody and and envisioning them, dreaming about them. I mean,
it's a completely unhealthy obsession, like an idolatricy obsession. Right, Yeah,
it's it's it's it's idolatry really, I mean, because that's that's what these
people are playing with, they are creating. It's it's this idolatry machine.
Uh, the whole world view is an idolatry machine to idolize and unhealthily obsess
over your twin flame, who can be anybody. So it's anybody who you're
obsessed with at the time. Is your twin flame of Like, right,
if somebody was obsessed with Ryan Gosling, Yeah, he will, and he
had to get a court order against this person. Yeah, but that quarter
doesn't stand. It's not legally binding spiritually against me, because no, because
seriously, you you're the twin flamee of Ryan Gosling. No, we're we're
one. You just said. It doesn't apply to you. No, it
doesn't know that is what I'm saying. Like that, that's this is a
whole different thing, dude. I don't know why I had to bring this
up. We were talking, we were talking about earlier. Yeah, but
no, that doesn't apply here. At a spiritual level, We're still united.
I'm the runner. I'm pursuing him, and I will never give up
and we will always be together. We will be together, Rightling is your
honey You're the freaking honey badger. I appreciate you the I mean, your
your flame is lit. What can I say? You're a flamer, that's
true. I'm a flaming I'm a flaming twin flame session, I'm I'm a
flaming a flaming life coach. So oh yeah. They mentioned in the beginning
of the of the Amazon the documentary, which I think that the Prime documentary
was a little bit better directed and written and researched than the Netflix one.
The Netflix one was hastily slapped together, and they even had some of the
same characters, like that that trans uh dude chick whatever that that that that
trans person, yeah, is in both of them. So yeah. Ryan
Gosling had an obsessive fan that said he's his twin flame. I've got this
obsessive streamer called Jay Dyer that swears we're twin flames. Uh mg, machine
gun Kelly and that witch chick what's your face, Megan Fox? They they're
twin flames and they talk about how they're twin flames all the time. Wow,
how did you do that? You didn't know you could make a heart
with your hands and then it just like that, do it? And then
if you put it wherever your heart is somewhere in here. Wow. Just
it's basically like it's the way deaf people talk. I don't know if you've
ever heard of that. Yeah, I feel I feel like I'm like,
you just put me in deep limorents with that when those little hearts coming out
of your chest there. So, yeah, the you know, the obsession
of the obsessive kind of insanity of the Twin Flames world is played into by
Jeff and Chilia constantly, and they don't seem to care about the repercussions of
what they have to say and of how the influence of the people. Yeah,
this is this is another thing that's weird to me, which speaks of
it being it has to be kind of demonic in its origins because both Ko
Swan's approach and Jeff and Chia or whatever name is, they both have this
weird element of going right up to the point of like breaking the law,
you know, like almost telling people to be stalkers and to obsessive things.
Chill Swan says, you know, it doesn't really matter if you unelove yourself
because basically death is an illusion and so you're just restarting the cycle all over
again, so if you unalloy yourself, if you're at that point, then
maybe it was just going to do it right. She has this whole thing
about death as an illusion, So if you unlive yourself, it's you just
restarting your illusion over it's a reboot, which again is just odd. Like.
So she's not liable when people actually do it because it's their decision,
but she has this teaching right like that same with these people. They're not
liable when people are, you know, getting restraining orders against them because they're
just telling them to be honey badgers and go after it. And so it's
just bizarre that they have these you know, almost illegal elements to them,
but not exactly you know, yeah yeah, well, and they kind of
skirt the line of that, and they don't do any thing. Jeff doesn't
do anything overtly illegal. And but when you when you get to the end
of the documentaries, both documentaries, the ultimate sin that Jeff has committed is
possibly making the trans community look bad. That's this is the ultimate sin of
Netflix and Prime. In the Prime documentary, they get a who is this
that they get on this was she had a specific name right in right name.
Well, there's a historian of sexuality and gender and her closing words at
the end of the Amazon documentary about how twin Flames Universe is. It's not
it's not transphobic overtly, but the way that they do things in trying to
influence people to transition may give the indication to outsiders who don't know that the
the real trans movement is, you know, totally health fee and great and
just you know, fantastic, and nobody coerces or brainwashes or grooms anybody into
that reality. But it may make people think that that's what's going on because
Jeff and Sheliah, namely Jeff, will often tell people in his cult,
or at least got a few of them to transition, right because he would
say, you're a divine masculine, You're a divine feminine. And with some
of these couples, he just he invented the couples. He was like,
all right, that's your twin flame, that's your twin flame. And a
freaking zoom. He claims the timest channeled who is supposed to be with who,
of course, which is something wanted to God told him. And if
you need like a convenient appeal to authority. By the way, I just
channeled it. Trustan, send me a bitcoin because I just spirit realm said
you goin. That's right. No, I mean we can go through the
chat right now and just start telling people who their twin flames are, right,
I mean we got Greg the Barine and uh and Natash Ski right,
but I'm sorry, Greg the Breen, that sounds like a little bit of
a masculine name. Your your name is now together? Man, put them
two together right now? Yeah? No, but Greg, you're the divine
feminine and then Natasha you're the divine masculine. So Natash, your new name
is going to be it's going to be a transition and then for them to
get together. Natasha, your new name is Sasquatch. Greg the Breen,
your new name is is Greg, Greg, Greg the Bitch. Greg the
Bitch used Greg, So that's that's your name. Like this is literally what
he would do, though. You do this in zoom meetings and just be
like, yeah, you're you're divine masculine, You're divine feminine and uh yeah,
and then they clap you guys have reached harmonious union. It's like he
got so lazy with it that that was that was kind of what it what
it resulted in, but that was the ultimate sin according to Netflix and Amazon,
is making possibly people think that the trans community could be grooming people into
transitioning. Well, uh yeah, this reminds me of something Alan Watts so
a long time ago where he pointed out that a lot of documentaries themselves are
propaganda. You've covered a lot of garbage documentaries and exposed them. What was
the one that James Cameron helped produced. Oh yeah, the The Game Changers,
which is mega propaganda. Right, So a lot of documentaries present themselves
as this you know, hot scoop, journalistic take to expose you know these,
and then the documentary itself is just this big advertisement for some even worse
thing. So yeah, I thought the Netflix one was went way off the
reils with that. But basically the Prime does the same, does the same
stuff. It's just there's a little more information in the Prime one. Yeah,
they have it. They get a professional, they get an expert,
they get a historian of sexuality and gender on and and she says in the
very end that that really what what twin Flame Sames Universe does is they have
internalized heteronormative Christian values that they haven't let go of and that are underlying their
paradigm, which leads Jeff to be a bigot and say that there's only divine
masculine and divine feminine and this is and while whenever he's discussing divine masculine divine
feminine, they put this dark music to the Amazon documentary, which is I
mean, the Amazon documentary is really funny. Like the journalist lady, she's
just up speak. I'm like a journalist, and I was just like,
like everything she's saying like is like yeah, like is like every other word.
But she's also like very like sophisticated and like fellas well. You know
that she's thinking really deeply because when she does the upspeak at the end of
her sentences and punctuates everyone with a up speak at the end, uh,
you know that she's a true journalist. And in the very beginning she the
introduction to the Amazon documentary's hilarious because the journal is sitting there and you know,
she looks like she's like a red haired she's like a ginger Taylor Lorenz
looking chicking justice warrior. Yeah, ginger justice warrior. Alice Hines and she
says, I was on Reddit, like looking for story ideas. That's that's
how she That's how the the documentary. I was like on Reddit and I
was just looking for story ideas. And then it it shows some of the
other stories she did for Vice. Uh, she'd done some documentaries for Vice,
and one of them she went to Anarcapulco, which is a bunch of
kind of libertarian hippies and she called it the anti it was the anti vax
burning Man. And what's the funny. One of the funniest things to me
is that in the Anarcho Polco footage, they have this chick that's teaching a
group. She's doing a grouped lesson on how to ban spoons. And I
actually know that chick. That's the funniest freaking thing to be, Like,
dude, I know that that that hippie chick. That girl she she used
to date this this other hippie dude named Vinaya, and they owned a piece
of marble from Oh Show's room and this is na. They were, yeah,
like, these these are like I have been making levels of connection,
bro, And but these are the type of hippies who would look at Jeff
and Shehaliah and just say, oh, those are obvious scammers. Those are
scammers. They're not, they're not. They haven't been around the true gurus
like like us we who we actually met. Oh show, But yeah,
I thought I thought that was one of the one of the Jamie was she
just interviewed Benny Wills and and Bennie's been I think to most of the he's
been to several andarch he's he's always a featured speaker there. So yeah,
that that's that over loot between libertarianism, free market in the fed stuff,
and the consciousness you know, ayahuasca dm T Brow Right, that's like the
Joe Rogan dm T brosphere of stuff. Yeah, because there's you talk about
Harvey Marcus a lot. I've never even heard of that dude until you talked
about him. But yeah, he's another one of my twin flames. Whoa.
So it's like a triadic flame. No, I mean, here's the
thing is, like some of us are are we call we call us a
soul mirrors, and the soul mirror is kind of shattered. So yeah,
yes, and no, but I mean they're all I mean, it's like
a polycoole but all the fragments of the polycuole are little pieces of yourself,
right because because really, like just in in the Twin Flames universe, your
twin flame is just a piece of you. They're just your other half,
your other part of your soul, which is that part of part of the
narcissism. That's that's really quick into this whole paradigm where everything that happens is
it's you. You're manifesting it. You are the reason for everything. If
Jay says something that makes me upset, I said something that made me upset.
It's just me saying it to me through Jy, who's just another part
of me. I know why they do this because Carl Young says that all
of reality is a projection from you. Yeah, so there's something bad that's
happening in your life that's you projecting that. That's exactly Yeah. No,
I mean, you know a lot of these know these people have read Young,
but he's really influential. He influenced people like Joseph Campbell, who wrote
you know, the Hero's Journey material he was. Young is a crucial piece
of the New Age puzzle. He's kind of like the base of the New
Age and as few people know, was a member of the OSS. In
fact, it's even known what his number is. It was like four eight
eight or something like that, Like his agent number was four eight eight.
He worked closely with is it Donovan or Dallas one of the two were I
think it's Dulles was very close with Young and because Young had that fascination with
a lot of you know, alchemical stuff that would be part of the tiny
mustache man sphere. A lot of people have accused Young of being neo gnostic
Neil Pagan a R Y A N. But if you listened even to Jordan
Peterson's lectures on Young, those are really interesting because he talks about how no,
he wasn't he wasn't of that frame of no, no, no,
he was not of that frame of mind at all. If you know his
works, and it turns out that that's actually true because he was working with
the OSS and the CI. Hmmm, interesting agent four eight eight Look that
up? Yeah, so interesting. Well, I mean, the the whole
New Age movement, the the seventies psychedelic movement, all of these were we're
tied in with psy ops at the highest level. From the pedagraph, from
the d o D from the CII and Eslin. Right, you've talked a
lot about Eslin. Cotel just came on and we did. He did a
breakdown of the history of Esslin. Esslin is a pentagon, you know,
CIA white white paper creation. Right, it's a thing where the connected to
SRI people don't understand that that the whole Boomer generation was actually being initiated into
all of this stuff, which then prepares the way for today's Gen X and
millennial grifter new age you know sphere because boomers raised the GENI X and Gen
X raised the millennials. Right, So here we are, and you couldn't
have had today's life coaching sphere without all that sixties countercultures. So now it's
all kind of, as you pointed out, magnified post coof and I think
even in the documentary they even talk about that how many people they realized many
people were alone at home looking for companionship. Oh and the dating market,
the postcouf Uh dating market is crazy, right, they bring the top And
so that was that key Jeff into figuring out that, and he tried for
a little while to do it as a matchmaking service, and then he got
rid of that and just stayed stuck with the cult thing. Yeah, but
he kind of did use the matchmaking stuff later on. It's it seems like
in his inner core circle he at one point started forcing matchmaking on a lot
of those people too, But he didn't. That wasn't like a service he
sold. That was just something he did to kind of flex his his power
over these people's psychologically, and then you know, spiritually he too. I
don't know if they still do the church, but they decided to create quote
a non boring religion, the Church of Union of All Peoples. And that's
when he also expands into diets, creates the idea of the divine dish,
which is just a bunch of carbs and basically hot dogs and like breakfast burritos,
a bunch of bread. Like no, he's a meal plan, he
said, and pre plan. It was a meal plan and like pre made
meals for people, and this was the spiritual food. And it was actually
to help you get into your lower chakras. I think he said, so
that you could have better twin flame sex. So you have to eat foods
that would make you feel grounded, and so it'd be like burgers. She's
pretty decided too many of the hippie chicks were skinny and he needed a fatten
them up. Because it sounds like when they got together she was vegan.
Did you did you? Hear was like she bought me my favorite vegan role
or something. When they got together she was also thin. Yeah, And
it sounds like Jeff kind of developed the thing for uh, you know,
voluptuousness, or it was just a cop. Maybe it was a cope because
his chick got all fat. He's like, looking at all these other chicks
into the Zoom meetings, He's like, man, you guys, He's not
gonna make all of you fat. He's like, I manifested her fatness,
and I'll manifest all of you as fatties. He choved them up. You
got you got one chick a gain seventy pounds manifesting. There's maniffating man a
man of fat y'all love Yeah, he uh, but but there I have
met and talked to some of that weirder millennial gen Z group that the younger
guys, like some of those guys are actually into like some of them.
It's I think it's I want to hope that it's a small part of that
group, not many, but things are getting really, really weird, and
I think that they do. They did figure out accurately that the dating market
is super crazy. You've been married longer than me, but I was in
the dating market at least up until about twenty fifteen sixteen, and people nowadays
tell me that, you know, post Kouf, it is like just even
crazier. It's it's it's wacky. I think that I think that's probably true.
Doesn't mean that we can't still try to be you know, normal men
and women and that guys shouldn't ask women out or something like that, but
you do have to be a lot more careful. It's just odd to me
that in the case of these two people, like every single red flag is
there to identify this as an obvious, completely ridiculous grift and scam, even
to the point of begetting actually dark and demonic. I'm looking to see if
there's anything I'm missed up. Oh well, going back to the diet thing
before we transition out of that, I think, uh, one interesting detail
that you see is, yeah, that he started repping his divine meals or
is like divine divine, divine Brazilian butt lift diet uh grift And when somebody
talked to his friend from Hawaii that he they interviewed his friend from Hawaii and
the Amson documentary and he's like, he's like, yeah, when I lived
with them, all they eight were hot dogs every day there for breakfast.
They would have hot dogs for lunch, hot dogs. So these they're they're
retarded children who do know how to feed themselves, don't know how to cook.
But then he became a diet coach, I mean like getting people and
it made meal plans for everybody, and it was just you know, hamburgers
and turkill. Plant was like a normal like bunny bread bun like the worst,
you know what I mean with like a hot dog and a bun.
And I forget what else was on there. Well there was one. There's
a clip of him preparing a turkey sandwich. He's like, yeah, look,
all you gotta do is, you know, all the ingredients are right
here, and here's you know, there's some cheese, and here's the bread
you put He just like takes some lettuce, takes a piece of tomato,
and takes some other stuff and slaps between two pieces of bread. How to
make sandwiches actually probably they don't. This is gonna help you have amazing ascension
sex with your twin flame. She's this is gonna give you a twin flame,
like three extra folds that you can like stick things into. You'rena get
You're gonna get extra appendages. Even even the vice chick is like, these
are a lot of carbs in these meals that he's record, right or was
it the poly I forget, but one of those girls, it was the
girl who got fat, was like, what, like, it's a lot,
It's just a lot of carbs. There's like a lot of carbs.
I don't know why. Why do you think he put all the carbs in
there? Do you think it was to just make him kind of fat.
I think he was really trying to fat everybody up. I think, well,
you see how skinny he was in the beginning of this little tiny like
vegan neck. You could see like the next stuff. So I think he
was trying to gain weight. I think a lot of these dudes, a
lot of these gurus, they just whatever they're into at the time becomes this
is cosmic, right, Like I'm really, I'm really you know, everybody
in my if you want to really spiritually ascend. You have to watch the
three seasons of East Bound and Down. You know, it's like whatever whatever
TV at that time is cosmic exactly. Well, remember remember like juicing,
right, Juicing was a fad like five years ago, and juicing like nobody
talks about juicing anymore, right, because it's just it's just a bunch of
sugar basically, Well, the juicing thing, it's something you can only do
for a little bit and get really into for a few months, because then
you start losing all your energy, you start losing so much weight, you
lose so much muscle. So the real intelligent people see that you can't sustain
this. Yes you can, you know, and it takes so much time,
it takes so much money. Uh, you know, you got to
buy all your what is the medical medium? Another huge grift for the medical
medium. This whole thing was celery juice. Celery juice and like with some
lemon and celery juice will cure everything. According to this kook, you know,
you can cure your you can you can get like I mean as you
Jay got almost one hundred percent remission of his down syndrome by just drinking drinking
celery juice. I know, you don't like to talk about this because because
of the stigma behind I mean, yeah, well, you know the the
medical mediums juicing thing. A lot of people who did that, they started
really liking it. But it's this whole ritual, Like juicing is kind of
a ritual. You gotta buy all the vegetables, cut them all up,
put them through the juicer, stray in the juice. You have to drink
it fresh because if you don't drink it fresh, then it sits there.
It loses its magic oom power, have all the living enzymes and the you
know it's gonna lead you know, you have no more midichlorians if you if
you leave it in the fridge for too long. So you have to drink
it fresh. So there's this whole ritual lifestyle behind it. And people start
doing that. And most of these people are coming from, you know,
just eating hot dogs. Most of these people are coming from you know,
crappy you know, standard American diet. So yeah, so they like it.
They feel good, they're making changes, they get a dopamine hit from
making those changes. They feel powerful, they feel empowered, but eventually they
realize, yeah, this isn't you know, this is like a placebo,
so they stop doing it. It's that point you made too about diet,
Like people are so used to eating garbage that when they switch over to eating
vegetarian and vegetables, they feel so much better, and they attribute it to
the vegetables when it's just that you're not eating cartoon characters anymore. Basically,
right, that's why you feel good. But that doesn't mean that in the
vegetables might be better than eating a bunch of you know, lucky charms.
But the vegetables also can be a problem, and that's what a lot of
people can't figure out. That's why I think that's a really good point that
a lot of the stuff that these people push goes against common sense, right,
And if we're going against common sense, you know, pragmatic, intelligent
people are eventually going to figure out that that's not a sustainable way to try
to eat and live. But the cult leaders, right, can push these
different fads at different times. It's very useful for their It's useful for breaking
people down too, because you when you get somebody on a nutrient deficient diet,
which is not what Jeff was doing, to be fair, But if
you put somebody on like you know, a lot of these cults will be
the force veganism on people, the force vegetarianism on people. We did the
Oh Show streams. Vegetarianism was a big part of the show. Cult and
these Even in that, there was this forget what that document was called.
There was an FBI report on satanic cults and one of the I think you
and I talked about this on a stream before. Maybe it was a different
one, but there was like an FBI report that talked about satanic cults.
This is from the nineties and the late eighties. And one of the strategies
that they listed that these satanic cults would do is a childish diet. A
childish diet that would both malnourish to put somebody into a state of hyper suggestibility,
and it would also infantilize them. Yeah, there was part of the
Finders thing, but I don't know if it was released in some of those
Finers documents. It might have been a part of that, but it was
an FBI document. I've got it somewhere on this computer. I don't want
to search for it right now, but I'll find that. I'll pull it
up for a future stream. So yeah, the the infantilizing diet of simple
sugary foods that's protein deficient will break people down physically, psychically, and then
also help them to regress into this state of hyper suggestibility like a child.
And that's not what Jeff and Shalia were doing. I think Jeff is just
a dumb ass. I think Jeff Jeff's whole thing is just whatever he's into.
So I think at the time he was he had just gotten some money
and he's finally making that upper middle class money. He moved into a nice,
nice ish house, and I think he was eating a little bit more
decadently, and then that just became like, oh, everybody has to eat
like me and Shalia. Look how hot Shalia is now that she's, you
know, one hundred pounds overweight. So I think it was just this weird
projection that these cult leaders do of you know, now you all have to
wear versus All Stars because I think those are the best shoes, so everybody
has to wear those. Yes, So it's just like, yeah, you
guys all have to eat freaking turkey sandwiches and hamburgers every day. Well,
so you're saying I didn't realize this. You're saying he gave up the Jeff
is Jesus grift because it was funny because it was Chilia who said, oh,
I got the download, which was an odd, oh yeah, he
did get the down download that Jeff is actually Jesus. And if you look
at pictures of Jesus right from like Protestant or Mormon pictures of Jesus, right,
it looks like Jeff's right, which like every freaking hippie dude with long
hair and a beard looks like that. So I think I think he backed
off of it because they mentioned this, but he didn't. I mean,
if you're gonna say that, if you're gonna make that claim, and then
I mean, you got a lot to live up to there. I mean,
any of these cults, when the guy starts to say that he's the
incarnation of of Christ, it starts to it really weird because it's like where
do you go from there? You know, Okay, hey, everybody,
I'm Jesus. That's like okay. Well, then they had the miracle cures
that they claim to have, and they interviewed like his you know, high
school buddy, and his high school bro is like, yeah, I don't
know why he thinks he could like cure people, but you know, I'm
pretty sure he can't. Or maybe it was ax, it was an ex
girlfriend or somebody was like, yeah, they can't. Yeah, I don't
know why they think that, but no, she said he's a scammer.
She's like, no, he can't kill anybody. Yeah, she she called
him out and said he's a scammer. And she also said one of his
high school girls said no, he just always wanted to make as much money
as he could with as little work as he possibly could. So I think
that kind of shows Jeff's Jeff's temperament that he had had since he was a
child, you know, a lazy kid whose parents told him he was so
handsome, and you're so smart, Jeff, you can do anything. Man
was also a theater nerd, so that craving attention, so exactly wanted attention.
He he was his friends would make videos from a young age, so
he was really into the being on camera, really into the attention of that.
But yeah, he was. He was a kid who wanted to do
as little work as possible and make as much money as possible, and that's
that's what the grift is. I mean that's what a lot of these life
coaches whole grift is too. I mean some of them put at least they
at least put a lot of money into and time into an energy into learning
how to market themselves and tell people and use these NLP techniques of like,
hey, you know, what is it that you're struggling with? What is
it that that's really holding you back? I can help you remove those blocks.
I can help you remove those energetic blocks. You know. They use
these techniques to sell them on basically their courses, So Jeff and Shelia,
they train their coaches below them to extract money from lonely mostly lonely overweight women
on Facebook, lonely overweight millennials just like sixty to I think sixty to seventy
percent of their cult and the rest of it is is you can see effeminate,
pale, pasty, dorky dudes like soy boys. Yeah exactly. So
they they tell them, well, if you want to get in on these
cheaper coaching sessions, you can get on the group coaching sessions for twenty bucks,
and will life coach you for twenty bucks? You can come to these
groups and those ones, they would upsell them to the private coaching and if
they can, a lot of people can't afford it. So a lot of
these are like dudes that work at seven to eleven or some you know,
fat chicks that are that are working at a convenience store and they're obsessed with
some guy that's coming into the convenience store and that's their twin flame. They
got to figure out, how can I get this twin flame? Which is
what the one the trans chick whatever that's in both documentaries, right, there's
a trans person Anderson used to be there, like they're one of their top
people. I forget what that person did. Yeah, and she's one of
the funniest characters. Uh huh, she's one of the funniest characters. And
she starts out the Amazon documentary talking about her Oh you know, I was
from I was from They always had that voice. Or there's some girl with
a voicebox. I was from this place and this this place in like the
Middle America. Everybody's kind of just uh, you know, conservative, like
want to be lumberjacks and stuff, and like they're all rednecks. So all
these all these people, it's always funny that people who who talk about their
upbringing and how where they live was boring and everybody was just normies. But
they're so enlightened. Right, she knew that she was different, and I
always knew that super spiritual, I can always tell that something is different about
me. And then it shows her like dancing with her hippie mom, who
probably enabled I mean, it's it, you know, this is one a
person that identifies as her. Uh, they reveal like eight minutes into the
Amazon documentary that I'm a trans woman. So well again, and her twin
flame, remember she works at a convenience store, and her twin flame was
a guy that came to the convenience store and she's talking about She's like and
he just doesn't realize and she's still like believed that this guy, she still
seemed to have this belief that this guy should be with her. And he's
just a bigot and his and it has his heteronormative programming and he doesn't want
to be with a trans woman. It's super weird. Yeah, it is
so weird that the whole documentaries ended up becoming about skittles and trans issues,
which that's where the whole both documentaries ended up being about that in some weird
social justice way, and because what did what did Jeff and Shili do wrong?
Like, even just from the classical liberal sense, right, these are
entrepreneurs who are uh you know, I mean from the norm we obviously from
our perspective, everything they're doing is wrong, right, These people shouldn't be
giving life advice, shouldn't be behaving as like a priest or spiritual father should
be behaving in somebody's life. But you know these are secular atheists, right,
yeah, from the vantage point of right, yeah, the progressive normy,
like, they're doing what you should do, right, yeah, Like
what are they doing wrong? They're helping people to be happy. America is
all about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Love yourself, Yeah,
yourself? You like you like how Jeff also talks about this and kind
of hides behind the classical liberal ideas of America and says, well, well,
let's let's register this as a church. And they try to do that
for a little bit, and they create this church structure so that basically they
don't have to pay their employees and it's all volunteer work and they can take
donations and not have to pay taxes. But then he also talks about when
he gets attacked by Vanity Fair. There's the journal road a Vanity Fair article,
and this is the journalist who's the basically like the secondary main character in
the Amazon doc. Yeah, Hines, she's essentially she's a essentially the main
character is her perspective that the whole documentary is from from the Amazon. And
when he's upset with the hit piece, he starts talking about America and how
we're supposed to be free and we're here to just worship God however we see
fit, however we please life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So
he's kind of right in that liberal classical liberalism, Americanism. Why can't you
have a cult? Why not? I mean, America's built on and you
and I we're talking about doing a stream in the future talking about the other
film, There Will Be Blood, where this is nineteenth century America, the
clash between the new religion church. Yeah, what's more American than the what
is it called the Second Great Awakening that happened in the eighteen hundreds with Mormonism.
Seventh Day event is Jehovah's witnesses you know, all these huge mega cults
that are supposedly coming out of that are supposedly Christian, or even most Protestants
will agree that. The most Protestants will say that, well, Jehovah's witnesses
are Christian, Mormons are Christians. But also they're kind of a relativist paradigm,
and they don't really they can't really say what puts you outside of the
church, but they know it when they see it, right, They know
heresy when they see it, although they can't give you a list of what
is actual heresy. But yeah, it's to me, Jeff and Shellie are
the American dream. Yeah. Now, did I hear right at one point
and I think this the Amazon documentary that there was a lawsuit over a unaliving
event, because that very that's very close to the til Swan stuff. I
think there may have been. I think maybe that was brushed over a little
bit. And then Jeff claimed that, and then Jeff said he was gonna
he put in a million dollar lawsuit against somebody, and then they got that
thrown out a corp for thirty thousand dollars or something like that. So yeah,
yeah, one of the moms mothers, so it ended up. You
know this it has like gone into the legal sphere. I don't know that
anybody's actually gotten convicted of anything. They got a detective, remember in the
Amazon, when they got a detective to actually go and talk to him,
and they show the recording. They play the recording of the detective speaking with
Jeff, and he's like, Hey, you want to go somewhere else and
talk, maybe go to the station, just like not really, dude,
Nah nah, but I'm good now, I'm cool dude. So yeah,
he didn't want to do that. But then the detective starts talking to him,
and the detective's funny because he's trying to figure out, okay, have
they done anything illegal? And Jeff knows at least he's an idiot, but
he knows at least enough to not incriminate himself talking to the police, and
the cops just starts kind of grasping at straws. So he's like, hey,
you know, we don't want to we don't want We're trying to make
sure that there's not something weird going on here, maybe like Waco where they
you know, made him drink that cyanide kool aid or whatever. So the
cop himself. He totally mixes up multiple different cults, like there was no
Cyanai kool Aid. He makes up Jim Jones and then waka. I thought
that was just a funny little moment, and the detective really had no idea,
Like why am I even here? I'm not gonna arrest this guy.
He's just doing you know, he's just he's an influencer. Basically all they
are. These are the celebs, like low level e celebrities. Yeah again,
like nothing like the level of you know, till Swann. And they
mentioned a couple of times Jeff doing NLP. But I mean, to me,
just look, he still looks like a goofy. He seems like a
goofy theater person. He's always trying to be funny. It's it's weird and
awkward. I mean, he doesn't come off as a master NLP practitioner.
He just comes off as just a goofy. It's like a lazy guy that
he's like a lazy NLP neophyte that had one n l P book that's,
you know, got diagrams and pictures in it for half of it. He
doesn't he doesn't seem like he's really well studied in this. He's not.
I mean some some of these gurus, some of these cult leaders like Oh
Show. Oh Show was a master at hypnotic speech and at lully when speech
he speaking is slow boys because he is so OpEd out with his bills and
thematicos. Yeah he Sho was great for him or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
that was probably because that was when the what was it called the ludes?
He was probably kayludes and and all that stuff. But yeah, Oh
Show was. He was a great NLP practitioner as far as I'm not.
I'm not saying NLP is great, but he was good at that crap.
Like he was really he was really good with it. He was slick.
Jeff sucks. Jeff's not good at all. He's not a great salesman.
He's not a great marketer. The only people that fall for this cult.
And this is why I thought, I think it's so funny that Amazon Prime
and Netflix decided to put out these documentaries because this is a really weak cult.
There are way more powerful cult leaders out there, like nature Boy,
who had streams on nature Boy back in like twenty seventeen. Yeh, nature
Boy is way more demonic and dark and crazy way more demonic, way more
dark and crazy, way more charismatic and fascinating as a character in his character
study, he's, you know, a nature boy for those of you who
don't know, he's like a hood healer. He's in prison now. He
kind of became a pimp and he's in prison for a false imprisonment of some
of the members of his cults who he was actually physically, emotionally, psychologically,
and sexually abusing to extreme levels. And this man was completely demonic and
totally hypnotic to his cult members and was pretty good at the NLP stuff.
And he seemed to pick up on this just through through just practicing it,
through diving into it and immersing himself in that world. So he, I
mean, nature Boy would look at Jeff and be like, this guy's an
amateur. You know. Nature Boy took all the same language. He'd call
his cult members reflections, right, You're all just reflections of me, peace
reflections, and he would he would he would call them. His whole thing
was about I love myself, but sel is C E L L F and
like so he had all these like crazy ways of making uh maybe make anagrams
with words, and you know, like he was good at this stuff.
Jeff sucks. Jeff is the only thing. I mean, there are certain
things that are i mean, the the mak the making people change their gender
pretty funnyfully in some ways, Jeff is Jeff is a is a funny troll.
But uh but yeah, nature boy, nature boys at least at least
uh good at what he did. Jeff is just good at extracting money from
people for a few months and then they probably leave. I'd say ninety percent
of people that go through his Twin Flames universe give them money for a few
months, realize it's a grift, and take off. And then there are
some deeper level of victims who are pretty broken people. And I'm not trying
to minimize the fact that they're broken and sad. I mean, it's it's
it's really it's unfortunate to see what he does to some of these people,
making them change their gender, and some of them got top surgery and stuff
like that, Like it gets pretty dark with that stuff. But yeah,
I think Jeff's ultimate sin as far as the secular normy world goes, was
And they said this in the Netflix documentary. They straight up said, oh
it is basically it could make people think that the trans movement is bad.
Yeah, that's a really perceptive point that you have there about the psychology both
of the victims and of the people making the documentaries and what they want to
portray, because if you think about this, it's like it's it's damage and
victimhood all around, and then it turns into a thing where everybody's trying to
out victimhood, like to show who has more of a victim status, right,
whether it's the people in the cult or whether the people have left the
cult to the makers of the documentary, because eventually it eventually turns into Jeff
versus the you know, the vanity fair girl and their little spat and who's
the real victim and everybody's trying to be like the victim. And the weird
part, like you pointed out, is that, well, but everything Jeff
is teaching it is tells people, except for maybe the twin Flame stuff,
is like love yourself, worship yourself. You're this, you know, basically
divine being. You sent me the clip of him of Jeff saying that you're
divine. So if I'm divine, how am I also an oppressed victim?
And everybody in this society also plays the victim card. That that really great
paper. I recommend everybody read it, The Virtuous victim Hoods Signaling and the
Dark Triad personality traits, because the paper argues that in these different experiments they
could try to prove scientifically. They claim that you can show that in a
society that values equality and democratic values. What happens is people figure this out,
and they figure out that the way to get ahead in that kind of
a society is to portray and show how much of a victim you are,
So you don't even have to actually be a victim. It's just who can
display that they are. And what happens in the pa of the paper is
that there's an energy transference, and that could be attention, it could be
money, it could be any kind of like way to get social credit points
or virtue signaling points on Twitter. If you can demonstrate that you're the victim,
that actually gives you social power and status. But the weird part is
that you're also taught at the same time as you're supposed to be victim,
that you're also a goddess conqueror. Right. It's a lot like those videos
used to Meg where you were making out of Darwinism and how it's like you
mean nothing, you're absolutely pun scum, but you're also the seed of the
gods. Right, So all of modernity is exemplified in these two contradictory claims
in these two documentaries, both that everyone is a victim and is traumatized.
I'm trauma and I'm a PTSD and I'm like, oh fed off, and
I'm just a big hot mess. But I'm also a goddess and a conqueror
and like you can't stop me. Right, It's like two totally nonsensical things
at the same time. Yeah, exactly. Now, then here I've got
pulled up on the screen right here. I don't think you can see it,
because I think I'm just screen share with you with my camera. But
one of the last shots in the Amazon documentary is this lesbian couple that are
some of the main characters in the Amazon Prime doc and they they made it
out of it their girl queens, their girl bosses, and they've kept their
chosen gender identity right. They both identify as women, but they're lesbians and
they get married and so they're in this secular marriage ceremony with a black female
priest, and it's like this whole Anglican looking set up with some like fake
altar in this wedding ceremony of one of these chicks is dressed up in a
suit and tie. But remember she still she identifies as a woman. She
wouldn't let Jeff make her change her gender, so she identifying as a woman,
engaging getting married in a secular marriage ceremony that's aping a religious ceremony with
a a BLM, you know, three hundred and fifty pound black pastor.
This is the triumph of the age, and this is a triumph of the
will. America reigns supreme, the land of the Free, the home of
the brave, with one of the freed slaves marrying these two two beautiful coins
together so that they can live happily ever after. This is this is the
triumphant end of the Amazon documentary, right, So then it and then it
goes to to the journal. So the journal starts talking and she's like,
well, I just think, like you know, with like the Fall of
the with like the I think, like you know, like organized like the
religions, they're like not as bike popular anymore, and people are just like
looking for a meaning and stuff, and that can be really dangerous because like,
uh, there's no regulation about like who's doing these coaching stuff and whatnot.
So so the whole thing is, well, maybe we need these life
coaches to be regulated. Maybe we need uh state sanctioned life coaches, and
maybe only state sanctioned therapists should be able to do this. Uh. And
then and then all Biden the Pentagon right would be the best qualified people to
monitor the life coach sphere. Yeah, yeah, so we got we got
to regulate the life coach sphere. And then there's there's also this lady.
So then this lady jumps on and she's I feel this is a the historian
of sexuality and gender. So this is a a female identifying person that identifies
as female and says I feel one hundred percent confidence, saying that the techniques
that twin Flames Universe uses to determine people's for lack of a better phrase,
gender identity are fallacious, aren't real, don't have any evidence behind them,
guy, and guide you there and I will see. I'm sorry. Twin
Flames has been able to create like got to have a good like in there
international status an expert. Yeah, yeah, so the expert says that the
danger, the real danger here is that Jeff and Shalia are trying to tell
you what gender you are, when really you should be able to choose your
own gender. You are the one who has to say who gets to say
what you are? I think that's how she says it. Yeah, you're
your own God, Jeff and are God even though tell you that you're God.
Yeah, yeah, so, and everybody's gonna live happily ever after.
We're all gonna make it. Because the gender studies major who is a historian,
has pointed out exert the naughtiness of Jeff and Shehalia and the experts have
spoken. But I like how the very beginning of it too. It starts
out, it says the following episode examines topics of gender identity and transition as
a part of this narrative, the images in this episode are consistent well I
missed it's gone, are consistent with and respectful of individuals identities at the time
of filming. So like, that's the Oh, my goodness, we might
be mis gendering people because later they transition, but it's okay. At the
time of the filming of this video, it's okay. And then another one
of the funniest things in this way, one of the funniest things is there's
this character called Greg who used to be named like Anne or something there used
to be Anne or something like that, and and Greg became a woman.
I think at the behest of Jeff, Jeff said, and you're now Greg,
you need to become a dude rather you become you're a trans man.
And Greg fully identified as trans, and the trans the historian of gender Sexuality
or whatever, the gender studies major, she has a real problem with this,
but she can't particularly articulate why right, because you have a person that
transitioned, But she's not sure if this person was coerced, right, and
and and it's not okay to coerce that person if Jeff does it. But
if this person is, you know, watching YouTube videos of other trans people,
or going to the public schools where they're having drag Queen's Story Hour where
they're doing all this stuff, that's I'm sure that's okay, but it's it's
when Jeff influences this person, it's not okay. So they're not really sure
how to treat that. In this third part, of the Amazon documentary and
they I think they talk about Greg in the end they say, well,
Greg is still Greg's still a man, still identifies as a man, and
we hope that everything's well with Greg. But we're just not so sure about
you know, what happened there When I'm so sure about why? Yeah,
I think again, like the whole the whole history of both documentaries and the
way the documentaries it's just everybody anything about's ridiculous. I think again, there's
something weird going on. Just my my spider senses tell me that something weird
is going on. When that Army Syops officer woman shows up and she's suddenly
like one of the top you know, teachers, and then she's telling people
to utilize this program that just come up with called the Maps program, which
is not minor attractive persons. It's some some mind ascension process. Yes,
I forgot what I come out with, and to me, there's something about
that where and he says, oh, this is great because I'm gonna sell
my course to the Pentagon, and if the Pentagon buys my course, I
will finally be a billionaire. So it kind of lets out that like that's
what he's after, right, he wants to be he wants to be Tony
Robbins, Right, he wants to be the next And his connection was like
a high ranking military officer. This is like a kernel or something that actually
worked in Did you catch where she worked? I forget, I don't remember.
No, it was something that actually did have to do with you know,
uh, psychology and driving human behavior. Yes. So my suspicion is
that the military and SI offs people, they probably do look around for people
like this that might actually be you know, doing or creating some kind of
model or some kind of course that could be used. And in fact,
the military has used and experimented with a lot of these, uh, these
exact type programs. For example, the military in I think in the eighties
experimented with an entire positive thinking course that they made a bunch of soldiers go
through to see if it would affect how they operated on the battlefield and so
forth. So, of course, the Pentagon's always gonna be interested in this
kind of new, new new thought, positive thinking type stuff, because it
all comes out of the Pentagon to begin with. Sorry, my dog's spassing
out right now, she says, I'm Oh, my goodness, you want
to play you will the dog is probably it's probably my masculine voice come to
the speakers. So she's telling me that you're her twin flame, and I'm
like, no, he's just hearing men's voices. It's all sort of female
voices there. So when it hears a man's voice, that thinks that's an
intruder. No, no, what what she's what actually going on? Is
I? She she's trying to tell me that you're her twin flame, and
I'm telling her that obviously Jay and I are twin flames, but she yeah,
no, she says that you're the divine feminine and well basically we got
a Tristan Burkerwitt situation where dogs are talking to Tristan. So yeah, no,
I can I actually we have a really she's she's another one of my
twin flames. She's actually my twin flame. That was doggy twin flames.
Yes, yes, yeah, no, just so you know, dogs can
be your twin flame as long as if I identify your dog as your twin
flame, it can be your twin flame. Well, if there are dog
psychics, why couldn't there be dog tin flames. Yeah, she's actually my
therapy dog. She's she's helping me. She's my therapy dog. We're doing
therapy right now. But let me let me come over here and let's shout
out the bigots in the chat. We'll wrap this one up. That was
That was a fun one, man. I think it's a it's good to
cover these kinds of cults because this kind of stuff does, you know,
affect people, and then it might grow, it might turn into a bigger
grip. Yeah. And this this one, you know, we we kind
of made fun of it because it's weak. I said, it's kind of
a weak could and it it is at this point. But I think it's
it's just one part of a broader sphere of these New Age life coachy ascension
griff salesman who have all tapped into a certain vein that leads back to as
you mentioned, Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, even though the O show stuff,
the sad Guru stuff is really connected with this and the Human Potential movement.
The Human Potential movement and the New Age movement in general is a giant
si op and uh he ah, sorry, this dog's she's been pent up.
She's been pent up all day she's her twin flame is outside run around.
She wants to run around with him. But yeah, man, no,
it's it's super relevant, and it's it's weak, and it's it's it's
pathetic. This guy Jeff is a week But then all right, hold on,
yeah, he's promo J fifty chalk dot com. Excuse me? What
what was that? Nothing, just saying shout out to my twin flames out
there? Yeah, okay, all right, thanks, thanks, all right,
look at all look at his twin flame big and something in the chat.
We got a bunch of twin flames up in the chat. My twin
flame technore Graphics through nineteen ninety nine. Ooh, nineteen ninety nine. Jay,
it's your angel number. That's right, that's right. Let's see what
other who we got a we got Gary donated twenty five bucks. Is what
do we have to do to get Jay and or trist and his cameos in
Lord Voldemort's video games? Yeah, what do we have to do? We
should just be we should just show up on the side whenever when there's a
new high score or when they when you beat a boss, and I'll be
going like this, yeah, yeah, A couple of soy face, soy
faces on the side, we'll pop up as swy jacks. Thank you Gary,
Thank you Technographics. What's what's up with all you big it's all you.
I thought we were twin flames. You guys, you guys are about
to put out my twin flames? Are are are making me feel extinguished with
the lack of shares and likes over there in the chat. Look at all
these We've got two hundred and forty five people. How many of you have
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that. I said it twice already. I can never out I'll smart you
with this manifest You can't just you've always got that almost like everything I do,
you've manifested it. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, No, it's
amazing. One. If I manifest that, you're manifesting everything. No,
bro, you're just You're just my reflection. So I'm literally I'm manifested way,
You're just a You're just a version of me with luscious, beautiful hair
locks. They're called locks locks, locks weave with a with a beautiful nappy
ass locks, goldie locks more like a I think I think it's more like
a nappy ass weave. All Right, So we got we got a bunch
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I don't stop shaking your head. I manifested that you stop taking.
Don't know whether I'm a gring or disagreeing, so I just sighed, well,
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I think this week we got some fun interviews coming up, and on my
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So nice, nice, learning a lot from this one. So that's
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sweet, All right, Jay, thanks for hanging out. Man. It's
a good stream. Stupid lame cult, but I think I think we kind
of covered most of the notes I got here, all the biggots in the
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make sure to like the video, share the video, do all that stuff,
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