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Welcome to another edition of the Chicks
on the Right Podcast. Very excited about

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our very special guest today, it
is Sage Steel. Sage is currently host

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of The Sage Steel Show on Bill
Maher's podcast network. She is a mom

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of three. She is a self
described army brat and an alum of the

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ESPN Network. Thank you so much
for being with us. We appreciate it.

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I can't believe this is actually happening. Thank you. We can't either.

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We're super excited, very much,
huge fans of yours. And by

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the way, you're a graduate of
Carmel High School. My son just graduated

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from there a few weeks ago,
generation or two before him. I was

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just there this week, and I
cannot believe you. That's where I was

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when I played golf of the name
and got hit. Yes again, I

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was right at Woodland Hills Country Club, right there in Carmel yesterday. Yeah,

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I was there on Sunday because there
was a graduation party. So we

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just missed each other. And that's
a beautiful course. It is, yes,

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and I feel it in my thigh. How nice the court is where

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I got hit. But it's fine, really, I'm fine. Oh my

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gosh. I love that Indie connection. Indian Yeah, Indy girl's all here.

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Yep, that's crazy, no idea. Yeah, that's amazing. And

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so I was just going to ask, like, how often you get back

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here, and you clearly do get
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I was there because the NDY All
Star Game was in Indianapolis with for the

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Blizzard in February, and that shocked
everybody. This golf tournament for Anthony Calhoun,

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who is the WISH TV Channel eight
sports anchor who replaced me in nineteen

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ninety eight and has been there ever
since. He just so much for teachers,

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treasures a wonderful community there. But
otherwise I haven't mentioned I you game

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in years. COVID changed things,
So I'm really going to try to fix

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that, and I'm gonna take you
girls out for drinks. Let's go to

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down. I love it. That's
fantastic. That's great. So how are

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you doing, because, as I
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I know you're so I'm about to
take him to college. I can't

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even think about it without welling up. And I know you're going through the

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same thing right now. Is this
your How are you doing well? Yeah?

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I mean, this is our I
have an older son who has special

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needs, and he's been he's lived
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But this is my baby boy,
the only one I've sent off to

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college, and so we're about to
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How are you coping? She's my
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through this before. The other two
were COVID kids, though, so they

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didn't get to go to a bunch
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allowed them on campus was where they
are, five point University of North Carolina,

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which is an incredible, incredible school. I'm so grateful for what they've

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done there. I'll just say this. The motto is God, Family,

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Country. Yeah, welcoming you to
tobeying the president. If you are at

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about basket of game or lacrosse game
and they stamps to the nation lands,

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and if your hat's not off,
people come tapped you on the shoulder nicely

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and remind you I love that he's
an immigrant. He's incredible. So we

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got very lucky considering the circumstances for
both of my older two kids. So

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they'll be a senior junior there at
high point this ball and then my youngest

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daughter, Evan. She's going to
be a freshman at Ole Miss Oh my

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day. But I will tell you
I am very sad. Like I'm so

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proud of them. I'm so excited
for Evan in particular as she's going into

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a freshman year. I'm heartbroken that
this chapter in life is over. I'm

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I was very present for all these
years because everyone told it tells us right,

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it goes fast when it goes slowly. Years like, I was very

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present, even though kind of a
crazy full time career and all that.

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But I just maybe it's because that
means I'm old too, and I'm you

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know, I'm single, I'm divorced
now, and it's not exactly how I

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pictured this time in life to be, but it's God's plan. And so

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now I'm leaving the state of connect
I stayed through once I left ESPN to

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let her graduate, and she's gone
off in August, and then the day

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after she goes, I'm like back
the boxes and I'm going to Florida.

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So I'm excited to start my own
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so there's a lot of positive that
can come from some sadness. I think

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I'm trying to allow those emotions in
and I hope you do too, while

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saying okay, oh my gosh,
it's my term. Finally it's okay,

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Yeah, that's really wonderful. Yeah. I have two older kids too.

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We have two that have left,
and then we have a fourteen year old

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that we still have four more years
last of high school and everything. So

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I know, I see like what
Miriam has gone through and then what you

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have got, and I'm like,
okay, I have four more years until

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I actually have to get in a
fetal position and rock back and forth on

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the floor. I just can't.
I just can't imagine this house. I

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can't stay here. And again,
yeah, I've moved a lot, We've

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we've been in this one perfe before
we were across the country. So it

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isn't about the house. It's about
the home that you create. And I

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did create home three years ago and
they love it. But I cannot handle

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when they're gone for the weekend,
like you know, with friends, much

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less living here alone. So that's
why I'm like, I'm out. Plus,

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the taxis in Connecticut are way too
high, and iah are going on

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in Connecticut. I'm like, bye, how do you feel about them coming

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back because like Miriam's doing this too, or she's going to South Carolina,

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she's moving in a couple months.
And when the kids come back to visit

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from college, is that going to
be Do you feel like that's going to

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be kind of weird for them to
come to a different house or is that

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do you think that the home in
Florida will be like a fresh start for

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everybody. That's why I wonder about
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during pandemic, like I said,
and I bought Lauderdale, South, Florida

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because one of very few places you
can go direct from Hartford a direct flights,

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So that was what I based it
on. And knowing that there's several

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good airport options for Lauderdale West Palm
Miami. So no matter where my kids

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are in the world, I figured
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with grandkids some day. I figured
that because it's right on the beach,

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and I'm like, it's Florida,
Hello, yeah, all I want to

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come. But to answer your question
this, it's actually a very sore subject

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here. My daughter, my youngest, is very upset with me for making

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this decision, and I was yeah, because this is her home. I

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mean, this is where they call
home and this town and I respect that.

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And as an army brat, as
you mentioned at the top, I

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don't have that, so I've been
very sensitive about that with them. However,

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first of all, their dad is
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a year, I don't know for
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so they'll probably go back there.
You guys are, but I just we've

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had some tough conversations and I'm like, everything in my career, once they

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got to a certain age, was
based on their comfort, and I had

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one thousand percent. I'm happy with
what I chose with that. Yeah,

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and the price already to turn down
many opportunities, many things to be present

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to be where they want to be. And so she wants me to wait

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four more years until she graduates from
college. I'm like, so for nine

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months a year, you're gone.
I don't have friend of group here ESPN.

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When I left there, it's it's
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it's not like I'm in a great
place. I'm just saying I need to

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step like that's over, and so
to stick around where it's a small town.

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I'm like, and I just I
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I also want them to not wait
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focus on themselves while still be It
took me so now to stop with the

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guilt and everything else. And I'm
like, I love you, and I

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will make every place the home.
I promise you. I'm going. She

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asked me for one thing to keep
her bedroom set, and so I wasn't

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say I'm having an estate sale as
soon as everybody leaves, but I'll keep

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I'm like, okay, I'll keep
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Yeah, And but little things we
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connection. I will do what I
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that they witnessed that as well.
I think, yeah, there's a lot

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of positives, but right now she's
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and I get it. And you
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brat a military kid is that home
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the people in the place that you're
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the place, right. But I
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the home to feel like home because
we've been in this house his entire life,

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and so to pick up and leave
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to Indianapolis necessarily is but to be
going, I'm sorry, how is he

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handling that? He's surprisingly fine,
Like I think I'm putting a lot on

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him because I'm worried about it.
So I'm like, you know, is

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it gonna be weird? And he's
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chill about it. But I wonder
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he's coming home for Thanksgiving or fall
break or whatever to a whole place that

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he doesn't have his own room in, you know what I mean. It's

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gonna be an adjustment for sure,
it really will be. And so if

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there's things, you know, certain
pictures, certain you know, done with

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his letters from running a cross country
and track and I'm gonna I'm gonna create

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that. And this is a condo
though this isn't my forever. This is

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maybe a year and then I'm gonna
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or Texas, like I don't,
I don't know, but you know they're

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gonna be okay, my mother and
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My dad was a retired colonel west
Point, the whole thing and in twenty

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three years in the service, nineteen
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I don't know how military fail me
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every house a home. It was
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money. She wallpaper, she painted, she made, we got to got

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and every home and they had nothing. So I know for a fact that

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it truly is about what you,
as the mother father make it, not

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about the other things. And I'd
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She's a saint and it's remarkable,
very efficient. So when I'm about this

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in September, I'm like, she's
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you got what more in you?
Can? You come help me totally?

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You know she will do you know, she'll be there. Yeah, the

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best. And I'm grateful. Yeah, I love that. That is awesome.

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So there, I'm just so what
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two things that I wanted to point
out for those listening right now, if

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you don't follow Sage Steele on Instagram, you are missing out. I died

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laughing at the picture that you posted
of your daughter graduating holding a cigar because

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your face in the background is everything, Like, can you replicate the face

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that you made it her? I
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oh, I'm so busted. Yeah
I think I was just like, yes,

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what are you doing? Oh my
god? That was everything. These

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kids are cool, make you're idiots. You don't even know what to do

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with it. And I'm like,
we didn't do that. I mean,

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Carmel High School nineteen ninety we didn't
have cigars. Maybe the guys did,

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but I'm like, you never know
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think you're cool and you look like
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an unhappy and that picture and when
they said it to me is like I

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have to post this. This is
so well and it's so great because you

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that That's one of the things that
we so appreciated about you. We played

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this clip from your show when you
had Dana White on and you mistook him

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momentarily for Joe Rogan, and it
was amazing, Like we could not have

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loved it harder. The fact that
you you didn't try to edit it out,

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you didn't like hold it back.
You were like here's what I did.

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It was so embarrassing, and I'm
sharing it with the world and Bravo.

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That was a moment. Yeah,
thank you. I used to literally,

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do you know how many people every
day I get DMS or from in

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an airport like way Joe Robin,
I'm like, do you thinks your original

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like this happens every day? Now? You know? If it was?

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My biggest champion with that whole thing
was Dana White, And he still writes

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me and will send me clips.
It's like, look, we're still drevening.

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I love it. But it was
so funny because honestly, I call

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my kids the wrong name all the
time and I know them pretty well,

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and so I had people saying like, oh, she didn't even know she

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was interviewing. I'm like, dude, I booked him, I've known him.

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They watched my entire show, they
would have known that. At the

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beginning of the show, we talked
about Joe because he came in carrying Joe's

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drinks, so he was on my
mind. This happened like an hour and

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twenty minutes in. Do you understand
how I felt when I realized what I

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did, Like my heart and I
was like I said profusely. I was

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like, oh, Dana, ya, you know what now I think it's

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like it that's a gen X thing. Like it's so weird because you don't

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look like you're a gen xer because
you look so much younger than Oh my

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gosh, you look amazing. I
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of humility and that sense of humor
and that ability to like just get like

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make fun of yourself is something that
a lot of like the newest the newer

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generation, the youngest generation, they've
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Yeah, I don't know. I
just think you're right. And I will

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say like it was for my first
episode too, like that was the first

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one out of the gates. I'm
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stage, you couldn't saw anything better
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ever, Like right, well,
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because he was like he said,
and he's like did she just call I'm

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like, Sana, wop it?
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little drill control and it was a
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I didn't even have to think about
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an idiot like we I think,
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just have you don't know yourself,
then you've got into your life, Like,

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really, I've done enough to do
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you're live on National TV for two
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was sixteen at ESPN and elsewhere,
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then I do feel and what I
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like, keep it in hindsight.
Everyone keeps saying. I do think that's

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what we need more of in our
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us would own our prap in every
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much better. And I think that
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Our politicians need that if you'd just
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two days later I went on Gutfeld
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like, oh god, like it
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it, so anyway, thank you. I thought you guys handled it well.

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Thank you for not making me Oh
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Loved it, I mean, because
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and filtered and manufactured now. It
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real moment that you were willing to
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that's what we love. I still
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one? Yeah? I think they
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was an easy mistake, and you
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cheap fake. We know that thought. Oh my god, it wasn't.

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Yes. So, speaking of your
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had RFK Junior on your show.
Just really curious to know because I haven't

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had a chance to watch that whole
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that interview? And how do you
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race? Who who will he impact
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with the first question. Like it
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but I was so excited and very
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not he can go on and on
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I'd learned a lot from him,
but he's very different from Dana Way.

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He's very different from Sharon Osbourne and
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and Michael like as far as having
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was not trying to go deep on
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goes. My goal for my show
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I hadn't met any one of the
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NBA players. The only person I
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just communicated for years through social media
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in person. So I just want
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And he was tough. He was
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awreadygain. I just wanted to go
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believe that when we figure that out
in people, we can be so much

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more forgiving of even if we disagree
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a story, and we all try
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but when we're open about it,
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in my own personal life and professionally
when I stared, people have come up

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to you, written me letters,
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my gosh, I'm not alone you
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I was genuinely curious about him as
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one as Catholic, with two divorces, with the drug use, with all

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of these things like that's what with
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me pushing, and then we saw
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he wouldn't answer. I was like, even up until birth full term,

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the answer and he said even till
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waves, the shockwaves. And I'm
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there is because he'd been and consistent
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right, I have to do on
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as a Catholic, as a woman, and as a voter, I

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want to know. But he said
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just went there, and he said
it's okay with full turn. So forty

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hours later to release a statement and
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learned. So he's a smart man. He knew before and that was fascinating.

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I'll say this right after he came, right, I forget done with

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him, and I'm so grateful.
Nicole Shanahan came in and so they met

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well going out the door, and
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then when I asked her about her
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with what he had said. I
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said full term. She's like,
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I'm like, if you guys,
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does not feel the same page.
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picked that picked up on that,
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interesting too. But I really like
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super cool. We have very different
views. So I'm great PEO that people

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like that who think differently are saying, Yes, my embiolic could not be

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more you know, further left than
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the end, you know, when
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lobby, she I could feel she
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this one's going to be tough.
But I respect her brilliant. I

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respect so much that she's done and
what she's been through and at the end

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of my interview, I hope you
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got me choked up because she said, I have to tell you, I

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was nervous to come on with you
because I did my homework and I didn't

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know what your goal was. I
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And this was a pleasure and I'm
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it meant the world because she We
are opposites in many ways, but what

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we know. I thought we had
a lot in common too, And when

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bull can converse, you realize how
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much less women and mothers. So
people put aside and are just kind.

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You never know what can happen.
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could call her up and ask her
for ad Buddy thought like anyway, but

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don't you think don't you think stage, I mean going back to the gen

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X thing back when we were in
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after maybe up until I don't know, like early two thousands. I feel

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like we could do that. I
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a lot on our show, about
how liberals and conservatives could hang out and

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be friends, and we could be
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And now it's just we're so divided
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It's it's sad. It's sad.
It is because you're right, we

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do have more in common I think, with one another and just everyday things

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if you take politics out of I
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and I think that's almost impossible for
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look at every day things. We
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than people think about. But we
just did not quit, right, and

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then sometimes we need to know when
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be guilty of that too. We
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right, So back to like what
you thought, how you think RFK will

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sort of shake up this race?
Do you have a because everybody's all over

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the place on that question, right. Some people are like, oh,

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he's going to take you know,
Trump voters, he's going to take Biden

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voters. Where did you get any
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I didn't, and it was,
you know, six weeks ago or

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so. A lot has changed since
then. You know. I watched something

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recently when he went down to the
border, and that was something that he

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was very adamant on on my show. I thought, that's the very first

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thing he would do on day one
in office. It's closed the border.

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he went down there and how you can

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They said, the chairs right where
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big hole where people are going through. And the difference and they're on the

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same page on the border. I
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issue for me, and he and
Trump being on the same page with that,

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I think could make a huge difference. And who he might choose to

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align with. I don't know that
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Joe Biden right now. And I'm
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I'm talking about from a human aspect, you know, And it's such a

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disaster. So I think at the
end the thing, he would take more

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votes away from Trump or I'm sorry
from Biden. And I asked about the

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the situation with his family aligning,
like specifically going on that stage in Philadelphia

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during you know, a rally and
saying you know sorry, you know brother,

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we're aligning with this guy and one
of his family members obviously works for

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Biden administration. But I thought that's
gross. And if the Biden administration refuses

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it still to give him secret service, this flows to the election. How

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could he then just put a cast
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I don't know, right, so
I can see him. I can see

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him helping the Trump team out.
I'm waiting, like, but we need

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to hear something soon, right,
whether it's the vice presidential candidate whatever,

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too much in common actually for him to

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not align with y Trump. Yeah, okay, and you said that,

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you said that the border is your
number two issue, which your number one

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issue? Yeah? I like I
fluctuate. Great gosh, journalists here asking

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great follow up questions. Now listen
national security for me as I'm scared of

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death, and they tie together.
I mean, those those two you can't

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extricate them from one another, right
like? Right now you can? Yeah?

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Again, I just I look at
the human element, not political with

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our current president. And number one, it's heartbreaking, it's heartbreaking that his

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family, right that they I've been
saying this for years because I interviewed Joe

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Biden a month or two after he
took office, and I noticed it then

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on an interview like this when I
was still at ESPN and in the commercial

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break beforehand. I actually it was
before we started rolling. We had to

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tape it. Of course, he
trailed off. We're having a conversation about

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football before we started when night,
and I was very aware, and I

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was concerned. My grandmother died of
Alzheimer's. Like I'm very sensitive to that

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with the elderly, and I watched
it. I can't I turn away because

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it hurts me. Even though I
don't like job he's done as president.

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I don't like him, I don't
like anything, but I I have empathy

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for that. And his family has
allowed it. Oh yeah, yeah they

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have. It's just it's disgraceful.
And then yeah, why so why would

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and you see these world leaders they're
just laughing and licking their chops. I

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mean, there's so many things that
there. I'm surprised we haven't been hit

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yet. Yeah. Yeah, So
it's about protecting us and someone who actually

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and I know people and I'm sure
you do too, who are pretty clothes

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have worked alongside Trump, you know, and like a security type capacity,

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and what they say that they witness
when he's you know, in a small

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private group with the leaders from other
countries, how he relates, how disarming

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he is, how much they like
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That is what we need. And
I'm so tired of people not being able

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to separate their emotions and their feelings
from using their brains and choosing who they

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vote for. It's actually really that
simple. I was with some people this

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weekend in Indianapolis and great people,
and they're like, I just can't.

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I mean, he's such a and
he's a criminal. I'm like, you've

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stop talking points. Yeah, And
I ask my question, name me one

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thing where we are better off as
Americans in the last three years with him

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as president, and they change this
subject. Oh, just give me one

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that and something. It has to
actually be a fact, not your opinion.

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Yeah. And they're willing to set
and they're willing to sacrifice their kids

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and their grandkids for what for such
severe hatred over one. To see so

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many people now standing up Hollywood people, musicians, Uh, it's really cool

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and that that takes courage when you're
out there. I mean, that is

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where it gives me a little hope. And you see in the black and

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rappers and they're yellingmen and they're coming
out like enough of this, and pro

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about recently when he was was Trump
and Detroit, I forgot where he wasn't

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and he was sitting with these pastors
and said, yeah, I came to

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see us, and Biden's never coming. You're in the hood. Thank you.

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Yes, like it matters when you
show up as parents or as politicians,

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you know, yeah, yeah,
you're absolutely right. Is exactly right,

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sage. We're just coming up on
a half an hour, so I

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don't want to keep you. I
know you've got dental issues that you're gonna

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take care of, so I don't
want to keep you for finally the teeth

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are finally okay, no more golf
falls to the mouth. I love it.

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But thank you so much. Who
do you have? Just had a

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curiosity? Who are some of the
guests that you have coming up that that

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people should tune in to listen to? Well? What funny you have lar

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Trump? Oh? There you go. Yeah, we got one also,

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and we might have edit this part. I'm not sure when this is gonna

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air, okay, And we don't
know actually either Valin will have to let

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us know that we'll it will part
out. But Byron Donald n Wesley Hunt

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a conversation that we're having in Atlanta
actually and we'll fix this. But actually

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the night before the debate, very
excited that next week and it's all about

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you know, there are so many
more people of color who are conservatives but

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are afraid to admit it. I
have black friends. It's like a whisper

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and they don't want their family to
find out, but they and my gosh,

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yes, it is an issue.
It is a thing with people that

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you all know and would recognize.
And so I've been asked to moderate that

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conversation between Baron Donald and Wesley Hunt. And I'm so honored because I know

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what it's like to be closeted.
I know what it's like to be afraid

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to speak up and afraid to be
yourself, and that's not what America is

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supposed to be. So people like
that, A Lynn Patten is going to

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come on, and Dave Reuben is
coming on, So just people who I

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just want to know their stories.
Listen. I've gotten a lot of nos.

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I've got a lot of knows from
people who are on the left who

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won't come on and talk people that
I know as well. So I would

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love it for anyone on the left
to come and have a conversation because guess

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what ninety was of the time,
I didn't want to talk about politics.

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Yeah, care about the human element. That's what this show is for me,

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because once you really you know,
go there and you know for what

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I've always wanted to do for my
dream job, Like I don't want to

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only talk to people who I agree
with, because then you're going to get

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a bunch of nos. And I
just started and you've already pegged over here,

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and I'm like, well, yes, this is how I feel and

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vote, but it doesn't matter,
it doesn't affect how I treat you.

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And I actually want to know about
this. I want to know your why

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behind it. But most importantly I
want to know, like what happens in

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your quiet moments, what happens when
something hits the fan and your family professionally,

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like when when the makeupsop and you're
not on the TV screen this famous

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person or the movie screen, Like
what do you do? And I think

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when we can focus on the human
element, that other stuff goes away.

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So I hope people will actually diversity
of thought. That's what it's all about.

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I've been saying for years, before, during, and after I got

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canceled, diversity of thought. And
it just cracks me up that the people

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who also preach that just as much
are the ones who won't come talk to

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me. They're afraid to do it. Yeah, and we can get back,

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we can get back to the way
that we used to do things.

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And on that note, what just
and on that note, how how do

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you what do you do in your
spare time? What is your favor what

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are your favorite past times? What
do you like to do when you're not

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on the air doing this with us
and being on television? What do you

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like to do? What a stage? Well, I'm figuring that out because,

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you know, again becoming an empty
nester, I'm like, what am

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I going to do? And my
job now is so different than it's spent

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my whole life. Yeah. I
did pick up golfing and it's something I

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took my first lesson twenty two years
ago when I before I had my first

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child, and twenty two years I
haven't taken another lesson. I've got my

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club's updated in a nice new golf
bag, and I'm finally saying yes to

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these tournaments and celebrity tournaments that I
was always invited to but was too embarrassed

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to go to because I couldn't play. Don't want to be that the girls

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sportscaster are supposed to be great at
everything, and I walk out and lift.

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I was like, oh God,
am I with her? Now I'm

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committed to golf, especially moving to
Florida, trying to become a memorial cub

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down there maybe, which I said
I'd never do, but like, I

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don't have that many friends yet,
so I'm trying to meet people down there.

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Yeah. I do exercise a lot. That's been my Dave and grace

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for many years, but especially divorce, pandemic were all at the same time,

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and then cancelation and work changes.
It was all at the same time,

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and my exercise has been the one
thing. And I'm not great or

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terribly consistent, but what a difference
when I do do that. And I

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really like red wine. So that's
the habit. I don't know, I

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love it. That's great. So
how that people how can people find you

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on all of the socials and how
do they find your show? You guys

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are good at this and I always
forget because there's a way to say it

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right, right YouTube, because it's
cracked me on YouTube, the Stage Deal

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Show subscribe and like, right,
I didn't understand the whole subscription thing,

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and it's, oh my gosh,
that's important. I think at some point

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that would be great, So subscribe, and like on YouTube, I have

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00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:07,279
my show, Stage Deals Show YouTube
and then also of my own personal which

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I'm trying to build up again just
to be an idiot and talk about my

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with my best friend makeup bars.
We talked about She's like, Okay,

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can I screen if we line up
guys for you to date? Can I

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screen them? I'm like, she's
like, would you the first date?

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I'm like, I cannot talk about
this. So we're trying to do one

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on that channel because again, I'm
not afraid to look like an idiot.

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I have proven that many times.
And okay, and then Apple Podcast,

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Spotify, wherever you find your podcast. But Instagram is my thing. They

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still show on Instagram, but also
my personal because that's where I yes,

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I show the pictures of me trying
not to judge my daughter in her cigar.

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I love it. And if you
look right now. I mean,

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I got hit by another golf ball
and I have a bruise the skis of

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Africa on my left, So that's
where I am just totally unfiltered, and

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my kids hate it, and I
think they've unfollowed me so well, I'm

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sure you'll get a lot of new
followers. Our audience, I'm sure will

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love you, and we really appreciate
you taking the time. Definitely, thank

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you so much. Thank you for
having me, And I knew that
