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All right, yeah, Unfortunately we
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Definitely, and I'm gonna take I'm
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over right now. Friend. So, Jeff, which ACC team do you

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think was the most disappointing team in
week three? At which ACC team was

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the most impressive week team in Week
three? Certainly easy to bang Virginia Tech

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for disappointing teams, but there are
other candida, there are other candidates,

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and I'm I'd like to have you
talk about the the the entire ACC enterprise.

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Jeff. Yeah. I think when
you look at disappointing teams, and

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I know you'll have comments on Virginia
Tech, you know, really disappointing effort

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there at Rutgers, but you know, right up there with him, you

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have to look at Pittsburgh. They
never really even look like they were in

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the game against West Virginia. It
was an eleven point loss and it felt

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like it could have been, you
know, thirty. They're they're Offensively,

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they're an absolute disaster. Fill your
COVID. He has struggled mightily, you

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know, as quarterback of Pittsburgh.
The offense is in shambles. They lost

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to a Cincinnati team that got beat
by Miami of Ohio the week you know,

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this week, and that was a
loss the week before in a game

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they had to rally just to get
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not only was Pittsburgh you know,
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the most disappointing teams of the week. I think they're an easy call for

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maybe the most disappointing team in the
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at Virginia and Virginia Tech that they
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you know, had the very disappointing
opening loss to Duke uh and it's played

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better in the two games. But
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And that was a team a lot
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in the ACC. Now, I
will say this, how much of the

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Virginia Tech game did you watch?
Jeff Annie bits and pieces? I saw

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bits and pieces. That's why I'm
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so no, no, But but
did you watch did you watch drones?

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Did you watch drones? Is the
QB for for Virginia Tech? Jeff?

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Did you watch him? A little
bit? Very very I only caught bits

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and pieces. So he is a
far He gives Virginia Tech a far better

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chance to win. He is mobile, he is more decisive, and I

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would argue that if he would have
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all the snaps that that that Wells
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perdue because he gives a different dimension
to that office, that offense chiefs they

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just said office. He gives a
different dimension because I'm thinking about work tomorrow.

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He gives that a different dimension to
that offense that the Hokeys just don't

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have, you know, and I
you know sometimes I do you remember the

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several years ago? Do you remember
when they when they threw Tyrod Taylor in

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for Sean Glennon when they were on
the road at LSU. Do you remember

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that, Jeff, several years ago? Yes, I do. That's a

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that was an indication of where the
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And I kind of feel the same
way today that you've got to have somebody

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in there who's mobile and can run
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times I thought that, oh my
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again, and coincidentally, we're playing
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Holiday Ball. That's what I started
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is. He is a faster Corbeck, he's more mobile, he's more you

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know, more decisive. I believe
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win. And I hear the coaches
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we really hope we can have Welles
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he can't run. He can't run
to save his life. Do I want

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him running the pitch? Do I
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Of course I don't. Not at
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not a good move for Virginia would
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And if he ends up, and
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Jeff, I honestly think that there's
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ends up at two and ten this
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this. I mean, I wrote
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you several tweets this week about how
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losses left on the schedule, three
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one game that I think Virginia or
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And of course I always say that
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it doesn't happen at ninety eight percent
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but you know the deal, you
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know, I don't think that they're
they're already an underdog at Marshall. I

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mean, I think the line is
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shocked it was more than a touchdown. And that that, I mean,

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we gotta be honest, that's a
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a bad look for a lot.
I mean, it's happened to a lot

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of teams. But I mean that
that's but Marshal's legit. They're good,

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They're probably gonna win their probably gonna
win their conference. And you know,

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so anyway, I mean, I
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when I say in the fifty fifty
games, right, I mean I talk

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about teams like Syracuse, but that's
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after I sound, you know how
they handled for do pretty well, right,

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and then they're you know you and
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they gave BC gaate forward to state
all they could handle. But my thought

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on the fifty fifty games is that
if you, if the coaches are smart

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and they keep playing drones, he's
going to get better as this season goes

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along. But I'll tell you if
they if they don't play drones, if

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they if they say, oh no, we're gonna play wells, I'll rewrite

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every one of the predictions I had
about the fifty fifty games. And you

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go back to straight two and ten
because I think, because I actually think

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Virginia's worst, worst shaped than Virginia
Tech. But you know, and like

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I said, I'll pick Virginia,
I'll pick the Hokies until until it doesn't

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happen, okay, And I think
Virginia they're just a top to bottom mess

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right now. I mean, for
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like, oh, are they going
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were up fourteen to zero, and
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and it was just like a comedy
of errors watching Virginia play, I mean

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they were they were dropping you know, they when they still had an outside

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chance of competing in that game.
I mean they were dropping passes, missing

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tackles. I mean they just looked
disorganized and poorly coached and not talented.

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I mean that's that's a terrible combination
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think it doesn't matter what happens this
year. I think Tony Elliott is going

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to be back at Virginia, but
I mean you're not seeing almost anything that's

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giving Virginia fans hope right now.
I mean they really look like a very,

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very bad football team. I mean
there's still a lot of season left.

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Things could change and they could start, you know, definitely playing better.

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But I think if you go back
to last year, they've lost nine

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of their last ten games and been
uncompetitive and most of them, a lot

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of them, they're really they're in
a really bad shape right now. So

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you look at Ginia Tech, Virginia
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up you're you're disappointing teams of the
week. Definitely, definitely. I'll tell

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you, Jeff I was really impressed
with Duke this week. I think that

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Duke has a real opportunity to make
some unexpected noise this year in the in

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the in the acc and do and
do quite well. No, I agree

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with you, Matthew, Duke's not
messing around. I mean, I know

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Northwestern's not very good, but they
already have the win over over Clemson.

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I mean, and they're they're just
mowing down opponents right now. And uh,

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you know, we'll get into who
looking ahead next week, but I

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mean they could very well be four
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They're playing Connecticut. I mean,
they have a really great shot at

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at four and oh and taking on
Notre Dame and Sam Hartman and man,

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what a great quarterback matchup that would
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get through Connecticut. But you know, Duke just took care of business,

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and so did North Carolina. I
think a lot of people expected them to

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have a more competitive game with a
decent Minnesota team, especially coming off the

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app State game where you thought,
oh, maybe their defense is not quite

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as good as we thought what it
showed against South Carolina. You know who,

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by the way, really gave Georgia
a tussle in Athens, and that

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was a team North Carolina like plastered. I mean they plastered South Carolina.

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So North North Carolina, you know, winning thirty one thirteen over Minnesota really

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impressive. There were a lot of
nice performances in the ACC. And this

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is a little bit different than the
last few years where sometimes we were kind

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of you know, searching for okay, which team looks good. But I

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mean this has been a really credible, respectable season for the ACC. Syracuse

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goes on the road to Purdue and
I mean their defense is just taking care

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of business right now. Thirty five
twenty at Purdue, and you know,

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I think we can move from you
know wondering is Syracuse, you know,

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got something working there. After they
you know, badly beat a couple of

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overmatched opponents. I mean, you
know, I'm not saying Perdue is some

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great team or anything, but you
still, you go on the road against

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a decent Power five opponent and you
come out with a you know, fifteen

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point win, You're doing something right. And we have to pay attention to

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Syracuse. So all Syracuse, Duke, North Carolina all took care of business.

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Louisville taking on Indiana, They came
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that one twenty one zero in Indiana. I thought they were going to blow

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out the Hoosiers. Got got a
little bit tighter there, but they had

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a tremendous goal line stand against the
Hoosiers. You know, to you know,

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get another win over the Big ten
for an ACC team, And I

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think Louisville is a team that,
you know, shows flashes of being really

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good. We're still waiting for them
to put a sixty minute game together,

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but they've shown flashes. So another
strong week for the ACC out of conference

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definitely, definitely, Jeff, Which
ACC football football game are you looking forward

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to next in week four? Right? Right? Well there, you know,

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there's a little game going on at
Clemson, uh next week at high

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noon. That's definitely the highlight of
the weekend in the ACC. Florida State

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coming off a game that they survived
against Boston College, and you mentioned it,

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Matthew, Florida State. They were
on the ropes. Quarterback for Boston

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College castin Llanos. He shredded up
the Florida State secondary and I think,

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if we're being honest, Florida State
is a fantastic football team with a great

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quarterback, Jordan Travis Coleman at wide
receiver. They got some individually really talented

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players on defense, but that secondary
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They got torched up pretty good by
LSU in the opening game. Boston

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College did the same through the air, and Clemson, you know, looked

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looked pretty good against Florida Atlantic.
But I mean, we're gonna get a

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big step up in competition obviously.
For Clemson, you know, they've had

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basically two weeks to kind of clean
up a lot of the mess that they

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had going on in the do game, and they can really get their season

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back on track if they could take
care of the Knowles. But I don't

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know if Clay Club and the Clemson
offense and those wide receivers can take advantage

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of where Florida State is weak at
in the secondary. I'm not sure if

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Clemson has enough of a passing offense. We're going to find out. But

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you know, a loss for Florida
State doesn't It doesn't take them out of

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anything. All it does is give
them a loss. They already have the

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non conference win over LSU. They're
going to have other opportunities. Uh,

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this year to pick up you know, ranked ranked, ranked wins. They

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obviously are going to still play Miami
for example, they got to play Duke.

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They'll they'll play Florida, who just
beat Tennessee. So you know,

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for for Florida State, it's not
a must win situation. For Clemson,

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it's it's must win. They have
to win this game if they want any

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chance to to get into the playoffs. I think they have to win it

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to get into the ACC Championship,
to the ACC you know, get to

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Charlotte. I mean, with two
losses, they still have a slim chance,

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but I mean, really they're they're
going to be behind the eight ball.

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So I think Clemson's in a in
a must win situation and you know,

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we'll see how that one goes.
But huge game there at Clemson.

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As far as other games that caught
my eye, I'm really curious to see

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North Carolina in Pittsburgh. Earlier in
the year, I thought this was going

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to be a huge game, but
now this is pretty much looking like,

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you know, can North Carolina,
you know, take the take the show

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on the road against a Pittsburgh team
that's that is absolutely reeling. You know,

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North Carolina, their last two games
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played a neutral shy game against South
Carolina that was in Charlotte. So I'll

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be curious to see how North Carolina
can can take the game on the on

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the road. Now, probably not
high as high as stakes going on,

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but I think Georgia Tech and Wake
Forest could turn out to be a really

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entertaining shootout. Neither one of them
are that impressive defensive teams, but those

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are We've known Wake Forest to be
pretty good on offense, and Georgia Tech

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is surprisingly has one of the best
offenses in the ACC. Haynes King has

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been really good at quarterback. You
know, they moved the ball on Old

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Miss in that game. It was
twenty four seventeen with about seven or eight

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minutes left in that game before the
defense gave out. And I don't think

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Georgia Tech has much of a defense, so that one could be a lot

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of fireworks in that one going back
and forth. That could be a very

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entertaining game. You covered that all
well, So we're going to go to

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the next question, Jeff, and
I think I'll start out this team this

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with this question. Here, which
ACC team could be upset in Week four?

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If they're looking ahead to a game
on their schedule, or if there

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are otherwise just sleeping on the field. Jeff, I can tell you I

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have my candidate and I don't care
if it's at Syracuse. I think Army

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can possibly go up there and pull
a stunner at Syracuse. Jeff. These

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folks at Army, they're good football
players. They're disciplined. These people are

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in the military. They're not going
to be intimidated by any of the noise,

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noise in the in the in the
in Syracuse is Dome up there.

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They're going to play discipline football.
They're not going to beat themselves, and

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that game's going to the fourth quarter. Jeff, can you hear me?

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Yeah, yeah, definitely. Matthew
No, I agree with you. You

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know, Syracuse we talked about them
having their good performance at Purdue. You

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come back the next week, you
have if you have a little bit of

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a letdown and you're playing one of
the academies, you better be ready because

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they're not likely to be the team
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So yeah, I agree, Syracuse
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Now, what about Miami at Temple? What do you think about that,

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Jeff, what do you think is
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each each time we think Miami's ready
and that they're back, something happens.

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Temple's not. Not not exactly a
roll over either. Yeah, this

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Miami team feels different. I mean
they I feel like the level that that

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Van Dyke is playing at quarterback and
the way that offense is humming right now.

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You know, you never want to
look look past for other opponents,

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but I feel like, you know, Miami, that that's a game that

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they shouldn't over look if they are
who they I think that they are,

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and I think this Miami team,
you know, I'm not saying they're back

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or anything, but I think they're
good enough to handle a team like Temple

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and lose. If they were to
lose to them, that would be a

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real setback for where I think they're
at. You know, obviously we talked

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about Florida State and Clemson plenty.
Florida State's going into that game favored,

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and certainly it's not out of the
question to see Clemson. You know,

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Clemson win that game, and you
know already talked about North Carolina going on

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the road and seeing if they can
take care of business at Pittsburgh. Definitely,

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definitely, said Jeff. Step out
of the acc here for me.

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I mean, we're gonna go to
a national college football scene. You can

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pick any game you want, schedule
other schedule next week. You've getting Power

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five, you could go with it
with a non power five. You can

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even have an FCS matchup here.
I'm curious what games on the national scene

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are you looking at next week,
Jeff and college football the four US years.

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I may have a few. I
may have a few of my own,

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but we'll give you first shot here
at this question. Jeff. Yeah,

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next next week is going to be
a fantastic week of college football with

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some just tremendous matchups. So I
know you've got your eye on on a

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few of a Matthew, So I'm
just going to hit on a couple that

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caught my eye. I'm I'm looking
at Ohio State in Notre Dame. I

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feel this is a Notre Dame team
at home. I think they can beat

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Ohio State. Sam Hartman, you
know, he's given them a dimension that

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they just haven't had the last few
years through the air, and I think

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Ohio State is still kind of searching
a little bit offensively, and that that's

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a huge, huge game. You
know, Notre Dame could you know,

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really thrust themselves into the middle of
the playoff chase if they were to win

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that game. I'm just looking here
at this, you know, tremendous schedule.

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You've got Oregon and Colorado. I'm
namely kind of interested in that because

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I think that's gonna be the first
truly strong opponent. I know, Colorado

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beat TCU in a shootout, but
I mean that's not the team. They

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weren't the team they were last year. And you know, I want to

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see what Oregon can do with Colorado, who can put up a lot of

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points, but they're you know,
not very good defensively. And and see

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if that that primetime you know hype
train keeps going, it just even gets

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bigger, or if Oregon puts a
puts a hold to it. And then

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the other game, the last one
I'm going to hit on before you get

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into yours. Matthew is is all
miss and Alabama? Oh okay, all

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right, I'll stop. I'm gonna
stop right there. I'm gonna stop right

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there. You go ahead. Well, I'm with with this game. This

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one's intriguing because because this is probably
the worst Alabama team since Nix Haban's inaugural

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first season at Alabama. Their ranked
thirteenth, but they probably should be ranked

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like twenty third or unranked. If
anyone saw the South Florida game with Alabama,

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they looked every bit of a mess
on offense at quarterback as Pittsburgh does.

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I mean they were a complete train
wreck trying to move on the ball

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on South Florida. I mean they
got bailed out by a defense that made

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a few plays and you know that
game was ten three deep into the second

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half. Alabama, they're not a
good football team. We had to be

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honest. They have not looked like
a good football team. They haven't played

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like a good football team and an
Old Miss. If that game was in

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Mississippi, I would almost be calling
that one a lock for Old Miss to

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win. Maybe Alabama gets inspired playing
back in Tuscaloosa, but I mean Ole

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Miss. I saw them play some
play them in Georgia Tech this weekend.

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And Okay, obviously Alabama's gonna be
tougher on defense, but Ole Miss has

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some offensive weapons that can stretch that
Alabama defense, and they obviously are gonna

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have a huge advantage at quarterback.
A loss for Alabama basically, you know,

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ends any chance of them to make
the playoffs. So I'm I'm intrigued

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by that game. I mean,
it's interesting because I was looking at ole

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miss As schedule, Like if they
were to get past to Alabama, which

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I actually think they can, then
they've got LSU right that's at home,

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and then they got then they've got
Arkansas at home, they go to go

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to Auburn, They've got Vanderbilt at
home, they got Texas A and m

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hut home, and then on Veterans
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So I mean, they've got a
tough road, you know, to

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get to get to the to get
there, but you know it would I

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mean, we're early, lots of
things can happen, Jeff, Mississippi has

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a chance to get to the College
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But it's way early, you know, and I don't necessarily think they

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can be Georgia. You know,
that would take a miracle probably for them

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to go in there and going there
and beat Georgia. But it would be

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nice to see somebody like that upset
Georgia because I actually think like somebody like

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a Florida State, we could go
in there, would go in there and

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knock off Mississippi. Jeff, Yeah, And I think if there's a year

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for a deep dark horse in the
SEC to make a run like on Old

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Miss, this would be the year. Uh. You know, we saw

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Georgia this weekend against South Carolina did
not look good. They didn't. They

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had struggle moving the ball. They
were down fourteen to three and a half.

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We know Alabama's down, Tennessee's down, LSU's down. I mean,

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the entire conferences is pretty lack luster. There's an opportunity for an Old Miss

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to take advantage of that and and
maybe you know, win the SEC.

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It's definitely not out of the question. I'm with you. I'm with you,

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so, Jeff. The only thing
I wanted to add here on the

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games how many PAC twelve teams are
in the rankings. I mean, this

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is basically this is a conference that
is dead after this year and maybe having

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one of the best football seasons that
the conference has had in quite some time.

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Would you would you agree with that? Jeff? Yeah, I definitely

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agree with you. Matthew I think
the PAC twelve is the best conference in

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the country this year, and it's
it's a real shame that they work towards

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this season and it's coming to fruition
as being, you know, the best

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top to bottom league, very entertaining, great players, great quarterback play teams

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in playoff contention. You know,
they've already picked up some noteworthy out of

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conference wins, and then this will
be the end of it. You know,

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if that's like a mini rant for
me, it's a shame that it

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came to this, because the PAC
twelve is a lot of fun to watch.

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I have in twenty twenty three.
I have my highstmand favorite right now

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and he's playing quarterback for the University
of Washington. Jeff, I like it.

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I thought you were gonna say Caleb
Williams a USC, but no,

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no, I'm going with I'm going
with the hust I'm going with the Huskies

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quarter I'm going with the Huskies quarterback. I I it will be must watch

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TV when we see USC and Washington
play, Jeff, I will be making

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time to watch that game. That
will be fun and I look forward and

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I look I very much look forward
to that because it's good. That's that's

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you know, that's gonna be a
matchup, like like a matchup like we

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saw several you know, several years
several years ago when both of those teams,

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when when Washington used to go in
and steal all the talent from from

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California and then they tried and then
the Californians were getting upset that Washington was

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going in Washington was going in there
and taking all taking all the players when

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they play in the when they play
in the PAC twelve title game, Jeff,

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everybody's going to be watching that because
I'm called I'm calling you. Hear

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me calling it today, Jeff,
that's the one I'm calling today. USC

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and Washington will be playing in the
PAC twelve title game and I can't wait

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for it. So Jeff, let's
get into it. Man. I mean,

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have you been, Jeff, have
you been to a football tailgate yet

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this year? I actually I've been
to a couple of games this year,

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but I have not actually tailgated this
year. I've been doing my eating like

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before the games, like somewhere around
the stadiums or are on site, so

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you don't go. You haven't made
any tailgates this year. I have not.

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I have not actually had like a
tailgate. I've met people there,

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we've we've talked before the game,
but like actually sitting down and like tailgating

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outside, I have not done that
yet. Okay, so wouldn't you do?

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Jeff? What is your what is
your your snack of choice, your

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food of joyce, your meal of
joyce? At a tip, it was

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always like two things that we would
we would pick up or if we were

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with some friends that they would pick
up. It was either like the Chick

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fil A nugget platter or a bunch
of the chicken from Bojangles. Those those

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were like the two choices that would
come up when we were if we were

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to tailgate, it was either one
or the I would say, the Chick

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fil A or the boat Angles.
Outstanding choices. Outstanding choices. Now,

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I'll tell you the tailgating at Virginia
Attack is pretty it is pretty ridiculous because

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they're pretty friendly. They will invite
opposing fans to their tailgates. In fact,

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I had some friends from NC state, actually some you know, some

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folks that have some folks from some
folks from NC state. Twitter went to

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some of the tailgates in Blacksburg,
and they came away full. And the

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people there are so friendly that if
you actually bring your if you actually bring

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your meat, your meat that you
want cooked, somebody will cook it for

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you. And I usually bring I'm
probably gonna sound like a snob when i

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say this, but I actually bring
like bison or something like that from one

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of the local one of the local
distributors that are farms that's actually close by

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there, and I'll have it at
my uncle's and then somebody will cook it

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for me at one of the tailgates. And I'm telling you, man,

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I don't Jeff, have you had
bison before? I have not. I'm

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well, no, I may have
tried it at a restaurant before. If

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I have, it's only been like
maybe one. I don't eat Hamburger anymore,

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Jeff. I quit eating Hamburger.
And I have like bison or something,

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you know, or I'll have like
deer, or I'll have like elk,

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you know, something that's really lean
right, that goes through your system

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really quickly, and it's just incredible. And that is my that really is

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my choice a choice of of of
what I have, either a burger or

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I'll throw that into chili or something
like that at a tailgate because I know

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it's good. I know it's gonna
be good. I know it's going to

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be consistent, I know it's gonna
be lean, I know it's gonna be

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healthy, and I know I'll get
full from it, you know, and

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so you know, I I mean, that's those are some of the things

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that I have. I know,
I've had friends who actually make these pizza

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buns which are kind of kind of
fun. Like whenever I go to a

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tailgate and Blacksburg, I think I
come back like three pounds heavier after the

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week after the weekend because I've been
eating so much and the food is so

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good and people are so friendly there
and anyway, it's but you have given

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some good choices too. I mean, I know people who have brought like

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the bowch Angles or they bring the
bowch Angles tailgate package, or they bring

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the Chick fil A nugget package or
that sort that sort of thing, and

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it just those are excellent choices for
tailgate. For tailgates is what for tailgates

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as well. So I look forward. I look forward to heading down this

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year to have fun. Jeff Open
microphone time, what do you got for

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us. Well, it's it's amazing
to see we're already three weeks into the

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season and you know, we talked
about the back Pack twelve being as deep

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as they are, but also the
ACC you know, has to be considered

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one of the better football conferences this
year. And that that's I mean,

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that's good for the league. It
builds, it's good for the narrative,

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you know, to have you know, the league deeper than just Clemson or

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you know, Justice Florida. Stay. This league is nine or ten teams

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of quality teams deep. By any
poll that's out there, there's four five

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ranked teams. Half the league is
undefeated. It's it's a very respectable eight

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and seven against the rest of the
Power five and eight and five against the

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SEC and Big Ten, who you
know, we keep hearing are the best

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football conferences in all the land.
But you know, results speak for themselves

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and and right now the AEC has
a winning record against those two leagues.

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You know, the other two losses
too, are coming from Pittsburgh against the

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Big twelve, and you know,
that's one of the bottom teams in the

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in the league this year. But
when you look at it across the whole.

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And we know Florida State extremely good
potential playoff team. Clemson it's not

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going to fall off the you know, they're not falling off the map.

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They might not be, you know, as good as they were during that

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dynastic run from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty, but there's still a good football

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program. But then you look at
the rest of the league of teams that

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have improved, Duke North, Carolina, Louisville, Miami, Syracuse all have

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taken care of business, you know, out of conference and have looked good,

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look good doing it. And let
me just make sure if I let

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me take a quick look at the
standings, make sure I didn't leave you

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know, one of those teams out. Okay, yeah, I did Wake

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Forrest three and zero, and you
know they went on and played a really

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tricky game this weekend at Old Dominion, got down and made a comeback,

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and they also have a win over
Vanderbilt. You know, I'm not sure

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if I really would have Wake Forest
in the class of you know, the

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top three or four teams in the
ACC. But you know, they're taking

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care of they're taking care of business. And we've seen Old Dominion knockoff plenty

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of ACC teams in the recent past. So I mean, you know,

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you go past that, NC State
only has one loss to Notre Dame,

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and you know we see Boston College, who many thought might have been one

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of the two worst teams. You
know, take Florida State to the final

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minute of that game. You know, Georgia Tech, considered probably one of

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the bottom teams in the ACC.
You know, gets to the fourth quarter,

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just one don't score down at Old
Miss. This is as deep as

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the league has been since twenty sixteen, and in my opinion, and the

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best that it's that it's been since
at least that time. So you know,

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they've gotten through most of the non
conference. They're still going to be

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you know, opportunities against Notre Dame
and then the end of the year games

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with some of the SEC rivals,
but most of the out of conference games

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have been played already. And the
ACC, you know, as opposed,

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we saw the signs trending in the
right direction last year, but previous too

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that you know, we've seen in
the ACC continue moving in the right direction

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with their football. So really positive
start to this year. It's going to

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be a really fun season with a
lot of great matchups. Okay, so

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yeah, from my open microphone,
I'm going to read you a tweet from

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our friend Andrew Alex, who was
once the co host of Paul Van Wagner

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the ESPN Radio. You know that
I've been on for the show that I've

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been on his show for before.
Is is you know, representing our site

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and he's been on this podcast before. Andrew Alex said in a in a

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tweets yesterday around four thirty, he
said, some of you I can't some

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of you, oh justin foote and
apology. And he put this out in

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the tweet, and I mentioned that
I was going to read some of the

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responses to his tweet, and I'm
gonna try and keep it cleaning, Jeff,

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I'm gonna read some of the responses
to his tweet during this segment because

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I wanted to make sure that you
had the full the full response from Hokey

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Nation. From that, I'm kind
of chuckling a little bit. Our friend

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Mark Hokey, right, you know, Hockey Mark, he's been out here

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before. We work with him all
the time. He says for running off

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all the talented players. That was
one of his responses to the tweet,

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Natalie says, in what world?
Rich Aroorra says, that's cute. I'm

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not going to read Polly's response because
that was kind of that was okay.

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He started cussing him out. And
then somebody says, you know, I

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have a feeling he was checking his
bank account and smiling the last two weeks.

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I greet he's a much better coach
than he's given for at I'm like

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what? And then somebody said that. Then it says the talent deplation is

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Flente's fault. He had he recruited
right, we wouldn't have to depend on

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all transfers. And then Patrick Crow
says, wtf Cardlson two? And then

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let's see who else here. Here's
another one for what. Somebody says he's

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a large part of the reason where
the position we are today. Somebody says

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no. Somebody says no, just
no. Somebody says, for what exactly

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the give you guys so utterly devoid
of talent that we can't even beat Rutgers.

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Then somebody says, huh, what
if we let Korn go after the

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Steen or twentieth season? And then
somebody says, no, no, we

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don't Flente point us in this in
this mess. Then somebody says he's the

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reason where we are. And I
could go through and read these and They've

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got gifts and things like that,
and I'm like, oh my gosh.

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I just kept going through the through
the responses Jeff, and I'm like,

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I've got to read some of these
things. I got to read some of

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these things on air. So I
enjoyed it and it was fun to read

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through that and I did chuckle rating
through all the gifts and things like that.

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Jeff. Thanks, thank you for
having a good time this week during

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our four hundred and seventieth podcast of
the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast. We

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are the longest running independent ACC podcasts
in the United States. Jeff, And

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it's been fun. Yeah, definitely
a little throwback episode that it was really

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enjoyable. All Right, I have
a great week. All right. Bye, Matthew.
