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It's Tuesday. You know what that
means. It's time for ignition with the

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a W fan Hub podcast team.
This is Kelson and Alex is away today.

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He may come back sometime during this
podcast, but for tonight, it

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looks like it's just me as the
host instead of being a co host.

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But anyway, what we're gonna do
tonight is we're going to talk about the

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two hundred and fiftieth episode of Dynamite. It's hard to believe that two hundred

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and fifty episodes have already been you
know, it just seems like fifty weeks

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ago that we just had the two
hundred wah wah Wahway. Well, look,

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I want to get into the matches, no preamble, Let's get into

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the matches. I want to hear
your thoughts, the podcast team's thoughts on

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the matches. And we do have
a new podcaster with us, and that

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is Red. Why don't you introduce
yourself, Red? Thank you for having

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me. Kelson. I weekly reviews
of AW Dynamite. I've been to AW

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fans since the beginning. I started
watching Dynamite weekly in twenty twenty, and

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I watched it ever since. I'm
super excited to join the crew. Thank

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you all for having me. Oh, we're happy to have you. So

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I'm gonna ask this question and Red, I'd like to hear your thoughts first.

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Let me get the My way of
answer asking questions is very long winded.

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So I made a poll on the
aw fan hub subreddit and on the

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aw fan hub YouTube channel asking who
is going to win the International Championship match

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between will Ospray and MGF. Obviously, one of the choices was will Ospray.

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One of the choices was MJF.
But a third choice was already on

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there too, and that was a
no contest or a time limit draw.

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I kind of group them both together. At the end, I will give

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the results of those polls because we
have quite a number of people. Answer

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to Paul, but what do you
think? Red? What do you think

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is gonna happen? By night?
And the will Ospray at MGF match.

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MJF has a particular flow he likes
to use when he's building a program,

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and it's it follows simple story structure. It's rising action cimax falling action solution.

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Right now we're in the rising action
where we're reaching the zenith of this

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for MJF. Typically that's like a
match on television. People bemoan that he's

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giving away a main event or a
pay per view match, and he's probably

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gonna win by using some underhanded method
and take that title from Osprey, So

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that that would be my prediction,
and I think it'll give Osprey something to

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rustle for at in Wembley at all
in, so well, you do think

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that m JF is going to win
there in a national title tomorrow night?

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Boy almost said that where it was
legible almost, Yeah, I think he

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is. I think he's going to
win tomorrow night, and I think Osprey's

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going to his win back it all
in, so well, that's what you

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think is destined to happen. What
about everybody else it's gonna I think it's

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gonna come down to what they plan
to do for all in, I don't

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necessarily think that that. I mean, I could see what Red say happening,

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but I'm not sure that that's going
to happen to Tomorrow. It's a

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big enough show to happen on I
just don't know if they're going to run

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it back that like that at all
in. I agree with Red myself.

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I think Will is better off chasing
that title and taking it back from from

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MJF, expectally getting it back when
he goes back to his home country.

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It'll be a spectacular Matt, and
I think he's gonna use either as five

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head law like he likes to do, or he is going to use that

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ring. Okay, what about you, Dad, what do you see happening?

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Because I do have a follow up
question for everybody here. I think

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MJF will use his underhanded ways to
win this, and I actually hope that

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he does win because I'd like to
see Osprey chase for his title back or

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the title back, and maybe Osprey
show us a little bit of his bad

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side, get angry and all fired
up, and it will be great.

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If he goes home and beats mj
and gets that back, it will be

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all all the much better. So
I think MJF will likely win this tomorrow

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night, and it's gonna set up
some really good storytelling, and as you

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all know, I love storytelling,
so I'm looking forward to it. Well,

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one thing that nobody here mentioned,
and it's directly related to what happened

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last week with will Osbury. Remember
last week, Will Ospray left to Don

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Kallis family. So Don Kallas and
the family, I mean, even Kyle

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Fletcher was looking a little miffed.
So do you guys think that the Don

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Kallas family will somehow get involved in
this match tomorrow night? I don't think

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it'll be Don Kallis's family. I
think it's gonna be Daniel Garcia. Really,

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Okay, that's interesting. I think
that if they don't have MVF win

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the title tomorrow night, it's gonna
be because he's attacked by Daniel Garcia.

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Because Daniel Garcia he left him beating
up pretty good. So well, the

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only thing with Daniel Garcia, you
know, and I don't know if you

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guys will agree with this, is
that Tony Kahn is well known to have

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a slow burn booking style and Daniel
Garcia just left so to be compialescing if

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you will, and maybe it's too
soon, and what else does everybody else

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think? Well, maybe Daniel Garcia
will come back and he's just that angry,

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but he won't be that healed.
And if the Callous family does try

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to intervene, it's possible that Daniel
Garcia pop up from somewhere, even not

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at one hundred percent and keep them
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So I think anything is possible.
I think Garcia needs to still that

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meeting a little bit more before he
comes back. I have to agree with

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you. Let me throw another name
out there. Maybe Redd wants to address

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this. You know, we've talked
about Daniel Garcia. What about Ricochet?

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Ooh, I Ricochet may be coming
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my in my thought Red is that
Don Callus family is going to get involved

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in some way, whether it's the
entire group or maybe just Kyle Fletcher,

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maybe it's somebody else TAKESHTA or whatever. You know. Of course attacking will

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Ospray, why not have Ricochet come
out the way will Ospray and it's dynamite

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two fifties. So something may happen. I mean, you got to give

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it to Tony Kahn. He does
know how to do a special show.

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MJF has been known to solicit the
services of other factions and not necessarily align

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himself with them, So it's possible
he could have hired Don Callis to come

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help him that. I think that
would be maybe something he would do.

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I in terms of Ricochet, I
think what I expect to happen. Is

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I think they're gonna pretend like Hologram
is Ricochet for a while. That's what

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I would expect, But it's hard
to say. I mean, I definitely

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think nothing just canna win clean up
with it that way. I don't know

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if anyone's getting inter fear. I
mean, he could use the ring,

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he could use brass knuckles, a
blow that he could use it for an

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object under The ring doesn't have to
come from outside or red. Did you

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see Collision on Saturday night? I
did, yes, Well, you know

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that they did say that Hologram is
going to debut well this week. They

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didn't say whether it was going to
be Dynamite or Collision, but I'm going

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to assume that they meant collision because
it seems like Hologram is going to be

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a collision guy. Uh. They
may very well make it to where Ricochet

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is teased somewhat as Hologram, but
pretty much everybody knows that it's aramis from

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U Triple A. That is that
is Hologram. So and I'm excited about

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that because he's a he's a special
town. I would personally like to say

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the Arabys or hologram paired with Commander. He's Erbis is a little bit bigger

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than Commander. He's like two inches
taller, about maybe fifteen to twenty pounds

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heavier, but they have very similar
styles that I am a big Commander fan,

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and he has jobbed so much.
He's done, He's done the job

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so much for AW I'd like to
see him get a push because he's so

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damn good. I agree, there, Calson, he deserves a push.

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He's very good. You need to
see more from him. He's Commander,

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the one who does the rope ju
He's the one who does the rope walks

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and does the flippity floppity ship.
Yeah, I don't like more power to

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him. Wow, do you have
something in sudden No, it's just the

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flippity floppity shit. No, I
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call it. I guess that's what
it's cold. I mean, that's that's

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I guess that's what it is.
But the good thing about it is being

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that it is dynamite two fifty.
It is something that is I think most

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of the matches have a little bit
of uncertainty to them, so well,

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No, I'm just saying that.
That's why there's there's so many different things

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that could happen in this match.
You know, you could there's like we

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we said, you know, maybe
ricosiate come out and help. You've got

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Don Callus maybe coming out. Maybe
Don Callous will show up before the show,

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before the match and try to make
it look like he's working with MJF.

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Who knows. I mean, that's
the really awesome thing about tomorrow night.

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It's gonna be one of those shows. Maybe it's just a draw,

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time limit draw. Well, let's
let's delve into the results of the polls

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that we did on YouTube and and
Reddit. When it comes to picking the

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winner between MJF and Will Osprey was
dead even it was fifty to fifty.

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It fluctuated a little bit. It
may be fluctuated now, but as of

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beginning of this podcast, it was
dead heat. But those two only got

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thirty three percent of the vote.
Sixty six percent of the people that voted

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said it was going to end up
in a no contest or draw. So

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I think people were either expecting a
time limit draw or some kind of outside

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interference. That means that this batch
ends in a no contest, which I

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think is interesting because that's what's expected. Let's see what Tony Kahan has up

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his sleeve. So let's I mean, I want to move on now because

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we have a couple of really interesting
things going on here. We have swer

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Strickland versus and I know I say
it wrong, but I have so much

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fun saying it that I gotta say
it the way I say it. Kazu

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Chica Okata bitch? Did I say
bitch out loud? Oh? Man?

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Wow, Wow, you've bet up
this podcast for all these munch and you're

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surprised. No, it's not that. It's just that the bitch has infiltrated

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our podcast and now it's being said
every week. He's gotten to you.

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Man, Well, look at my
break capacity. This is true. This

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is true. Don't agree with them, don't agree with me, So go

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ahead and that save me. Where
there's wrestling fans everywhere. Like I meet

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a wrestling fan at work in a
doorway, I say can I help you?

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So? Or somebody opens the door
for me, I say, can

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I help you? So? It's
not just the bitch. I'm glad somebody

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doesn't hold the door open to you. As you walk by, you say

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bitch. But anyway, that's this
is a champion versus champion match, but

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there's no belt or anything up for
grabs here, so it's more like a

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battle for pride. What do you
do? Do you have any idea?

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What's something's got to give in this
match? I mean, there's got to

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be a purpose behind it. Obviously, swear Strickland did you know, put

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his name in the hat as part
of Team A W four Blooded Guts,

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which is next week, isn't it? And so obviously we're gonna probably get

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some kind of interference between Elite and
maybe somebody else comes out to confront the

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Elite when they come out to confront
Swerve Strickland and possibly Mark Briscoe at the

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same time, and they declare for
Team A. W uh, Because Team

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Elite has already filled out, we
still got what two empty slots, well

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three technically, but I think everybody
kind of expects Darbi Alla to be to

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be one of them. So what
are you guys thinking about this match?

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I mean it seems to be like
the purpose of this match is just to

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set up blood and Guts. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I was

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gonna say the same thing. I'm
assuming Darby will come out because it's two

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fifty. He'll be there. The
Cleian haven't aligned with this yet. For

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Blood and Guts, they not officially. Okay, not officially because I wouldn't

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see them not being in it since
it's the tag. Well yeah, because

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of the tag titles. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I think

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it'll be a hell of a match
if it goes to the distance. And

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I don't know. A Car hasn't
lost yet, has he? I don't

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believe, so this will be his
first loss. I think it'll be his

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first loss. I think this is
gonna end up in a brawl. They're

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all going to try to uh,
they at least gonna try to keep their

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way into winning it. I don't
see a purpose of having Ocauda's first loss

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be on a regular Dynamite. I
think his first loss needs to be in

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a pay per view and be in
a big way. So I'm wondering who's

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going to be on Team a W
I know, I thought I saw where

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SDR was back, so I don't
know who's all joining. I know Darby,

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But then if they do that,
it's just going to be a remix

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of what they had last time,
so I was hoping for new people,

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So I don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, I mean, do you

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claim who have thrown their ring?
You know their hat in the ring.

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But now FTR is back? Who
would you rather see? MKA? Would

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you rather see FDR in this match
with you know, meaning blood guts?

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Or would you rather see do you
claim I would rather see they claimed?

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I love FDR, don't get me
wrong, but I've seen f tr rthy

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jumbucks so many times that I want
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So I think the faces in there
would help. What about you, Red?

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Would you rather see f t R? Would you rather see the Acclaimed

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in this match? And what are
your thoughts on this match? Definitely rather

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see the Acclaimed? I think you
know shy have Mark Briscoll obviously. I

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think we all expect Darby to join
again sort of kind of a new team

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a W or all younger wrestlers other
than Mark Briscoe, who you know.

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I mean, he's new to a
new ished a W I suppose, right,

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but I think you know you expect
to see people swerve his wrestled with

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before he's worked with the Acclaimed,
He's worked with Darby Allen, so I

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think it would fit for the sort
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In terms of the match this week
against Okada, I think Darren belts on

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the line, so you'd think that
that means Okada might win. That's I

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think what conventional booking would say.
Tony Kinson always a conventional booker, but

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I think it's probably more likely this
ends. Uh, this match is thrown

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out. It's going to become a
fuster cluck if they claims you're going to

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come in. I think the young
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I think Jack Perry is going to
enter the ring. I think Darby's

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going to enter the ring and probably
hang in in. Mark Briscoe, uh,

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and Richter, don't forget Cindy there
you go? Yeah, yeah,

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I mean that. What are your
thoughts? I don't know. I think

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that as far as Swear been Okada
go, I'm I don't know where I

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am with that one. I really
don't know who's gonna win there. I

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mean, I like them both,
but I don't know. I kind of

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think that Swerve might come out ahead
and that they're saving Ocada's, like someone

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else said, saving Ocada's loss for
somewhere down the line or I don't know,

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but I think with the with the
Young Bucks that they are probably planning

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some kind of big, ridiculous celebration
considering, you know, they haven't really

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celebrated their belts and maybe when they're
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about themselves, they'll get jumped by
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I would rather see them and the
Acclaim go head ahead. I'm very

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tired of FTR at this point.
I think Darby Allen is gonna get involved,

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and that's gonna make Jack Perry get
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It leaves me with a lot of
questions. I'm just looking forward to it

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to see what happens. Yeah,
I'm surprised that they didn't announce Jack Perry

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versus Darby Allen match for tomorrow night. I do want to move on because

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we've got more champions and matches.
We've got Mercedes Monett, who's this two

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belts right now against forber aw Women's
World Champion Nyla Rose. Now, the

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TBS title is up for grabs on
this match, and that's the only title

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that's up for grabs in this match, and you know what, I haven't

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seen it out on it. It
would make perfect sense for Nyla Rose to

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win this match. But then again, for me, it made perfect sense

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for me to sheer Kawa to win
her match at Forbidden Door. That didn't

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happen. But it does make sense
that Nyla Rose can win this belt,

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and I actually would like to see
that happy because as everybody knows, I

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am not a fan of a wrestler
holding two belts. I really am not,

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and Nyla Rose would be a terrific
a w TBS champion. What do

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you guys think about that? I
miss Nyla Rose. I'm not gonna lie.

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Uh. He's fantastic face. Uh, fantastic deal. He makes me

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laugh quite a bit. And I
don't think the Britt Baker uh Monette needs

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a title belt and balld, so
I think that could be a benefactor to

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a benefit to Nyla and maybe have
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don't I don't know, very unlikely
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but I would have no problem with
Nyla winning go ahead. In all honesty,

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I really don't see now how Nila
loses this match because she is.

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To me, she's such a better
wrestler than Mercedes is. And I've said

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it before and I'm not going to
keep saying it, but it makes no

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sense for for for Mercedes to win
a match that she's out matched. She

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doesn't have the power. There's there's
absolutely no she has no way of defending

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against now the power, and it
would be nice to see now to win

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the title. And we have a
wild Alex just arrived at the chat.

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How you doing, Alex? Yeah? Great, I arrived perfect time to

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hear Elf trashing Mercedes on that I
it's literally been doing it for the last

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half hour. I'm glad you came
here to shut them up. Anyway.

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I thought that was being nice because
you know, even though we normally don't

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do this, because it's died of
my two fifty. We are going through

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the matches. You've already talked about
the swer Strickland and Cousin Chico Kata match,

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We've already talked about the NJAF and
Will Osprey match. We are currently

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talking about the Mercedes Monet and Nyla
Rose match, and Alex, I'll just

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throw it to you. Do you
see any chance whatsoever of it's for the

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TBS Championship only. Do you see
any chance whatsoever Nyla Rose walking out of

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this match with the TBS belt tomorrow
night. No, I think there's like

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a zero percent chance. I like
Nyla, She's a lot of fun,

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but yeah, it seems like they
don't really care about her. They don't

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feature her. She gets she shows
up every few months on TV, it

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seems, and loses a match or
wins the match, and then loses a

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title match right after. Yeah,
I think there's zero percent chance in Nyla

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winning here. Does anybody else have
any opinions on this? I guess not,

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So let's us move on. I'll
just take care of this entire segment.

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Alex, you can kind of look
and see what you want to talk

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about next. Let's move on to
the Mariah May speaks. I mean,

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we just had. As Alex said
last week, he gave him chills what

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happened at the end of Dynamite last
week, and now we're finally going to

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hear from Mariah May. I hope
that Mariah May comes out and only Mariah

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May comes out, because I really
want to hear Mariah May talk. I

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want to see what she can do. I want to hear what she can

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do. I want to see we
already know she makes great faces and she

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gives good bosom. So what do
you expect? What do you want to

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see from Mariah May tomorrow night?
I think yeah, like exactly like you

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said, I don't want it in
like her starting to speak and Tony Storm

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comes out. You want to see
a good five to ten minutes of Mariah

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May just telling us why she did
what she did, laying out her evil

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plan. Yeah, I'm really excited
for this. This is was such a

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great way to end Last Dynamite,
and I think this, even with the

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awesome matches that we're getting tomorrow,
this is kind of what I'm most excited

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to see. Really, Okay,
fair enough, Yeah, I think it'll

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be interested. Go ahead, Okay, So I'm interested in seeing where Mina

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Shirkkawa place in this, if she
was helped behind it, or if she

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or if she stands with Tony a
little bit and she's surprise. I know

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on Twitter she well or one of
the platform she was surprised by it.

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But I want I want Mariah's pet
fire basically and say why she did it?

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You know, the old villain,
the old villain soliloqually type thing,

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and she really needs to stand out
and I think she has and I think

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she could. Yeah, she does
a great promo. I think she's well

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on her way to being World Women's
Champion. There's there's no stopping here at

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this point. It's her to lose. She has the momentum, right,

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but what do you got? Yeah, so you know, I expect her

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to come out do all that,
and then you know, Tony is gonna

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come out tomorrow night. Hopefully we
can get it a good ten minutes,

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but she's got to come out.
But it'll be interesting to see what she

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looks like when she comes out.
Is she gonna be stitched up? Is

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she gonna be wearing a bandage?
Is this going to affect her demeanor?

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Is she gonna start down that dark
path to the darkness that we all expect

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her to in the end. So, I mean it's gonna be a very

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interesting thing. It's one of the
ones that I'm looking forward to tomorrow too.

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Well, right, what do you
expect from Ariah May tomorrow night?

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How do you expect Tony Storm to
also show up? Or do you think

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it'd be better. Maria Age was
alone oftentimes in wrestling, less is more,

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so I think you just you let
her go out there five to ten

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minutes, let the segment breathe,
let her live on its own, let

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her explain her motives, what she's
been doing, why she's been doing it,

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and obviously the end goal is all
in, so address that. And

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I think, you know, we
have I think six more episodes of Dynamite

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after two fifty until all in.
That's plenty of time to grow in Mina

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Shirkawa, let Tony Storm respond and
go on from there. So I hope

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she comes out tomorrow and has her
moment five ten minutes and gets to just

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got a great promo because she's capable
of doing that. Red. There was

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a question that I asked last week
on the podcast, and I want to

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present it to you because you weren't
here last week, and I want to

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see what your thoughts are on this. Mariah May has Mina Shirakawa in her

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corner. I really believe that.
I don't think that that is going away.

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I think Mina Shrikala will be in
Mariah May's corner as her friend.

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Who does Tony Storm have? Do
you see anybody coming to Tony Storm's a

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not even physically, but even as
just a motivation. No, I don't,

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because Tony Storm has made nothing but
enemies, whether that's Thunderosa when they

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were friends, whether that's the outcasts. Uh, She's made nothing but enemies.

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And I think she's only trajectory and
has been that. She's a starlet,

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and I think the Crash is going
to be as great as the Rise

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was, and I think I do
expect her to lose that title, and

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I think that she's going to be
alone, and I think we're going to

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see her evolve into someone who's even
crazier than she's been so far. And

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I think it's going to be great. Right, Yeah, we're all looking

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forward to the meltdown, which I
think is inevitably coming. Matt, what

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do you think on this? What
are you looking forward to Mariah May doing

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tomorrow night. I'm looking forward to
her explaining why she did what she did

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and talking about where she is going
to go from here. Is she just

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going to be more censored on herself? Does she plan on joining Mira and

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becoming you know, women's team partners? But I I mostly want to hear

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why she did what she did,
and and why she chose that moment to

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do that to Tony because there were
a couple of other times where I thought

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that she might turn on Tony and
she didn't. So I was starting to

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get the feeling that she was never
going to and I was surprised that she

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actually did it. So I'd like
to hear about the why and the how.

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And I also would like her maybe
to just go wild and threatened Nigel's

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life once and for all. So, oh that would be sweet. The

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threatened Nigel. We don't want Yes, I'm the biggest. Well, this

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will get him involved in a story. Yeah, see, it'll be good

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for us all and the versus Nigel
will get Mariah May versus Nigel all out.

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Oh god. But look, so
there's only one section segment left in

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uh Dynamite, and we'll just briefly
cover that, and that is the learning

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Tree. Sorry, guys, that's
the end of the segment. We've got

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to move on. That was the
horn, Alex, what do you want

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to talk about next? Oh?
Man, that was the last segment.

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I can see. Well, no, Darby Allen promised that he had something

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planned for Jack Perry and the elite. I guess that segment. Yeah,

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we already talked about. Okay,
so the Learning Tree. Yeah, I

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just hope book somehow is not involved. But I don't know. I don't

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have a lot to say. I
do like the Learning Tree, but I

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just want them to be doing different
things instead of the FTW hook Taz drama.

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Yeah, but if it is another
reason to keep Taz off commentary and

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replace him with Nigel another week,
I'm all for that. No for goes

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off again. Oh gosh, anybody
else have anything to say about the Learning

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Tree? I was I thought it
was cool how they how they took out

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Samoa Joe and a nice way for
him to go do his twisted metal stuff

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again. It's a good segment.
I just once again, I want to

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er annoy that I'm tired of the
FTWI belt and hook not needed again.

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They need to find a way to
get rid of it and make I don't.

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I just don't like the belt.
I never have and it's a waste

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of time to me. Wow.
Yeah, anybody anybody here to like the

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FDW belt? I mean, Red, We've not heard from your your thoughts

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on the FDW belt. I think
it's kind of safe to say that we're

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not like you don't. Some of
us may not hate it, but some

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of us don't think it belongs.
I guess the title doesn't mean anything unless

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it's being used effectively and being held
by someone who's doing great things with it.

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I think when Ricky Starks had it, it was I'm not going to

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say prestigious, but it was interesting
because it gave him a good reason to

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wrestle good opponents. I fortunately,
while I love Hook and I love his

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character in the way he's portrayed,
he's not the best inn ring worker.

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He's very limited. He's got like
five moves that cannot be used in rapid

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succession, so it's hard for him
because he can only work with so many

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guys, and often he's been putting
on rampage and things like that. So

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I don't know if Jericho's the that
I would have hold it because he's pediatric,

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but he's not gonna. I'm not
gonna say we should throw it in

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the garbage, because I think it
could be used effectively. I think if

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someone got it and said that this
is a world title and tried to make

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it seem like it was important,
that'd be interesting. But mm hmm,

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anybody that could do that. Okay, I said, isn't that what Jeric

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was trying to do is make it
a little more relevant? I mean no,

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no, not at all. He's
making fun of it, I think

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more than he's made than he's trying
to make it relevant. But I don't

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know. There's a bunch of guys
I could think that they could do Wonders

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with that title, and and I
kind of agree with Red. It was

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great back before Hook got involved with
it, and then that kind of it

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kind of dimmed it down and took
away from its momentum. I have no

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with the FTW belt as long as
it's on somebody that can use it.

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I would like to see someone like
big Bill maybe get it and then have

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him go up against some of the
bigger guys that aren't really being used a

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lot. The only way that I
think that the FTW bell could be relevant

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is we put it on MJF and
that would be stupid. So I I

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kind of like it as the trash
like not trash, but it's like it

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is the lowest wrong belt that there's
a place for that. It's always hardcore

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matches. That's fine, it's just
just it just has to be Hook and

403
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:51,760
Taz and them involved in it so
much as that's what I don't like about

404
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,519
it, Like, if they were
going to get rid of a belt,

405
00:35:53,599 --> 00:36:00,679
I would rather one of like the
Internet International or Continental. Those seemed kind

406
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:08,159
of redundant at least the FTW belts
just the hardcore low cart belt. Well,

407
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,000
we're Alex. Let's let's move on. I know that you had a

408
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,519
topic that you had said that you
wanted to talk about, So let's talk

409
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:21,519
about that. What do you have
Forrest Bell? Yeah? So Willow Nightingale

410
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:30,519
is the new CML Women's Champion,
and it's pretty wild that she kind of

411
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:35,639
came out of nowhere to do that, being as that we saw Stephanie Vacour

412
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:42,320
I think just two or three weeks
ago on Forbidden Door she was the champion,

413
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,280
she had a match against Mercedes Monet
and now and we discussed i think

414
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,519
last week at one of our podcasts
about her potentially joining aw Now we know

415
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:58,280
that's not the case. She's joined
WWE, and there was a lot of

416
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:05,519
drama around that because how it happened, and I know there's there's definitely been

417
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:12,679
some backlash towards Stephanie Vacour from CMLL
in New Japan for not leaving on the

418
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,760
best of terms. But then there's
also this all this drama with Stephanie Vacour,

419
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And I know I'm brutalizing her name. I think I've heard of say

420
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:29,039
it said many different ways. Yeah, and I know I'm not doing it

421
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:36,800
right, but probably not the worst
rendition anyways. So she left CMLL not

422
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,440
on the best terms, but there's
also all this drama with her, an

423
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,440
abuse of X who's now in jail
in Mexico, who was an ex CMLL

424
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:50,880
wrestler. He has friends in CMLL, his friends even in AEW that we

425
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:58,639
know of. So it's tough to
blame Stephanie Vakour for leaving CMLL, knowing

426
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:05,079
that there's probably a lot of backstage
tension and maybe it's a toxic environment for

427
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,599
her. So the fact that she
wanted to get out of there quickly,

428
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I don't think we know enough to
get upset with her for maybe handling things

429
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,079
that way. And now she's joined
WWE, so I'm happy for her.

430
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:27,360
And it's also nice that AEW is
able to lend out Willow Nightingale in this

431
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:36,519
situation and help them out and give
them someone at last minute to carry that

432
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,920
title in the interim. Yeah,
because well, if you look at the

433
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:47,400
CML roster to women's roster, they
really don't have a huge women's roster and

434
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:54,159
so and when you look especially when
you look at it with the New Japan

435
00:38:54,679 --> 00:39:00,400
women's roster, because New Japan of
course also own stardom, so they've got

436
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:07,960
that huge and talented starting roster with
them. But CMLL is hurting just like

437
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:13,239
New Japan's men's roster. I wouldn't
say it's hurting, but they're nowhere near

438
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:21,119
as solid as they were in the
past. So it's interesting to see.

439
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:27,880
I'm really interested to see how Willow
Nightingale is handled, how long she holds

440
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:35,199
the title, and if like CMLL, wrestlers come to AW to challenge Willow,

441
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,639
and if Willow goes to CMLL.
And we've already seen Willow go to

442
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,880
Japan fairly recently, like three or
four weeks ago, so could she go

443
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:51,360
to Japan and defend the cm CMLL
title there Because CMLL and New Japan also

444
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,320
have somewhat of a good partnership going
through AW, so this could really help

445
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:05,639
CMLL. James Notoriety in their women's
division. Yeah, and to mention,

446
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,599
like, we've seen aw stock up
on a bunch of men's free agents,

447
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:17,599
but we've also seen Stephanie Vcour and
Julia recently sign with WWE, So they've

448
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:22,199
really been stalking up on the high
end women's free agents. Right. Having

449
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Willow with this belt, it's like, you know, now New Japan,

450
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:34,519
CMLL AW the women's division can all
team up to make those divisions stronger,

451
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:37,639
just like you were saying. So
it's interesting. It is like an arms

452
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:45,039
race on either side. Does anybody
else have anything to say about the Willow

453
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:54,320
Nightingale with the CMLL title. I'm
hold my tongue on this one. Nobody

454
00:40:54,599 --> 00:41:01,119
anyone, But the only thing I
can say is is I have no problem

455
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:07,360
with what the record chose to do. That's on her and that's nothing to

456
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:14,519
do with what happened. As for
the use of these the people that have

457
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:20,039
gone to WWE's Julia hasn't been used
very much. Well, she spent injured.

458
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,119
She just had batch back from injury
this past week, okay, So

459
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:31,519
hopefully hopefully they'll use them better than
because to me, the WWE's women's division

460
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:37,760
is not even close to the aw
one. Well, that's arguable. Yeah,

461
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,719
I always I feel like their women's
division is strong. Well, the

462
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,960
thing about it is they have well
I guess Tony Conston is too, but

463
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,440
they have like four women that get
all of the stuff. They get all

464
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,000
the matches on the main show.
They may have a better one in NXT,

465
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:59,599
but it's not it's not the same
thing. But again with Mercedes,

466
00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:04,119
she can't from there. And like
I always say, she has impressed me

467
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:07,559
as much as a W W E
trained woman as it would be impressive in

468
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,519
the A A W the a W
roster. I just she's not that impressive

469
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:19,119
to me. She's not here we
go with some just we're talking about Willow

470
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:24,440
and all of a sudden with Willow. With Willow, she's been getting shoved

471
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,679
down everybody's throat lately. She's been
given all these matches and I get that

472
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:34,760
that that they want her to be
a star, but I just don't see

473
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,119
her that way. Well, the
one thing that you have to give to

474
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:40,719
Willow, and I don't know if
everybody else will agree with me on this,

475
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,719
is Willow has a tremendous worth work
ethic. I was very vocal about

476
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:54,519
this when Willow was gearing up to
her for her match with Julia Hart because

477
00:42:54,559 --> 00:43:00,199
Willow seemed like she was getting gassed
really really early in her matches, and

478
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:07,679
she has not been that way for
several months now. So Willow has done

479
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,360
the work, and it's noticeable to
me anyway, because she's able to have

480
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,639
a consistent match throughout the matches now
and she's good. I mean, look,

481
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:22,639
we all know that everybody has different
tastes. You know. There are

482
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:30,440
wrestlers that people like that I don't
particularly care for Eddie k. Yeah,

483
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,840
and there are people that get paid
a lot of money that Sutton doesn't like,

484
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:42,800
you know, Mercedes Bonet, and
there are people and there are people

485
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:50,880
that everybody loves universally. Of course
I'm talking about Sir Petico and you know,

486
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:54,920
and I just thought, I'm still
waiting for Tony conn the book.

487
00:43:55,039 --> 00:44:06,480
Sir Peteco all in, you know, should instead of zero hour zero Hour

488
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:10,599
Battle Royalit, Yeah, come out
every big match and do his little finger

489
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:17,159
thing with the the Confettian just set
it all off. Yeah, that they

490
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:22,400
should open the show with Sir Pentago
every every week, but that would tick

491
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,440
off orgs Cassidy at John Moxley to
no end, because I think they're contractually

492
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,639
obligated to share the opening match or
opening segment in ninety percent of the shows.

493
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,280
So anyway, get him a great
theme song? Be it all weird?

494
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:47,079
Well, I think Jane is available
now. That would be very confusing.

495
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,920
Sir Pentico is very confusing to begin
with these, John Cruise and Sir

496
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,360
Petico. Hey, you know what, his partner might be back soon,

497
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:01,559
because if if our women's champion goes
off the deep ense, she might just

498
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:07,559
fire him, and Sir Pentacon might
have his long lost buddy back. I

499
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:12,000
don't know. Poor Luther, Yeah, Luther, Luther. Luther is the

500
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:19,719
best butler on TV right now.
You have to say wow. But anyway,

501
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:27,280
I digress. Does anybody else have
anything to say about Willow Nightingales run

502
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:38,280
as a CMLL Women's World Champion?
I'm sorry, I hope she gets to

503
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,320
work with thunder Rosa, who's expressed
a lot of interest in working at CMLL.

504
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,199
When do you say work with thun
Rosa? Do you mean as maybe

505
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,559
you know, versus thunder Rosa,
or as a tag team partner with thunder

506
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:58,360
Rossa. Oh no, against thunder
Rosa for the title. I was kind

507
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:06,039
of amazed that thunder Rossa was not
the one to go to CMLL. I

508
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:12,639
mean, well, that's kind of
a stereotypical thing to say, but maybe

509
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:19,679
they have bigger plans for a thunder
Rosa. She's mentioned that she wants to

510
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,440
work in CMLL, something she's expressed
interest in uh this year, and I

511
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:30,400
can't imagine they have answer her to
be in a title picture. But I

512
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,920
could be wrong. Maybe she'll work
with Maria made Well, you never know,

513
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,119
could have been visa issues even true
true, you know, you just

514
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:43,760
never know. But anyway, you
know what, I think that's gonna be

515
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:49,199
offered, and I think we'll wrap
it up on that note. So you

516
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,679
know, glad that Alex got to
get in here for a little bit red.

517
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,760
We loved having you, and uh, we will see you tomorrow night

518
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,679
for all the talk right after Dynamite. We're gonna see if any of the

519
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,679
stuff that we talked about for Dynamites
two hundred and fifty episode actually comes true.

520
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,039
See who's been who is right in
some of the things we said,

521
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:12,679
and who was way off? And
of course when I say who is way

522
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,119
off, I am talking of course
about myself, because when it comes to

523
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:22,039
predicting anything that has to do with
wrestling. I am the worst. No

524
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:29,280
no, no, no, no, You're not worse than your buddy.

525
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,960
They can't pick the women's well,
yeah, what ration binds picks a woman's

526
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,559
match? You just know who's gonna
win because the opposite uh is have they

527
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:43,119
have they have they Nason over run
tonight Tomorrow night. Yet it just seems

528
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,360
like they don't even have to announce
it anymore. It's just gonna happen.

529
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:52,119
It's inevitable. I'm assuming that,
I'm assuming that the Osprey uh I've caught

530
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:58,679
a match will be the final match
there, Osprey and I caught a word

531
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:04,119
match will be the final man.
I would assume that, you know,

532
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:09,119
I mean, yeah, although it
could be Mercedes and Nyla Rose. If

533
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:15,559
Mercedes and Nyla Rose is the final
match, then something's gotta happen. So

534
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:22,000
I'm just interested to see if,
like there's got there's not that many matches

535
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,000
or segments already announced for Tomorrow night. I think we're gonna see some surprises

536
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:30,119
tomorrow night. So hold on to
your hats, you know. That's all

537
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,559
I can say. I mean,
it's gonna be an interesting night tomorrow night.

538
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:37,360
I can't wait but watch tomorrow night. I can't wait to do all

539
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,400
Lee Talk with everybody tomorrow night because
I have a feeling we're gonna have a

540
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:50,800
lot to talk about tomorrow night after
Dynamite. So for all Leak talk,

541
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:57,119
for all he talk, for Ignition
and the aw fan Hub podcast team,

542
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:05,440
this is Kelson. H. Good
night, everybody, Goodbye everyone, good

543
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:12,039
night, good night. H.
