WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.560 --> 00:00:08.679 My god, it's still tots as list in the same Tom Sino versus the 2 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:14.279 show stop on Oh covid and the lock in the same way you would never 3 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:19.559 take my place, and the head of would take the Brass Games said, 4 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:25.399 Oh my god, God, Michaels, he's tip stain us down. All 5 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:40.079 it'll be It'll be Austin. Still you believe in Marable. Hey, what's 6 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:45.280 up, guys, And welcome back to the final retro ever here on the 7 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:53.799 WWW podcast on this Friday, September eighth. As I'm not sure exactly what 8 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:59.280 I was planning to do tonight, I was eventually well, I was originally 9 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:06.480 rather going to kind of cap this off, this whole retro rivalry's thing with 10 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.840 something that was very fitting, something surrounding the Rock, his return and to 11 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:15.719 save Eugene and all that. And I was gonna do my typical show where 12 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:21.319 I play you audio, I walk back through the time period back then where 13 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:25.200 the Rock stood, where everyone stood at that point in time, everyone involved. 14 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:30.439 Rather but seeing as how this is my final show on speaker by myself 15 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:36.079 or on the free feed, whether you listen to Apple Podcasts or Spotify wherever, 16 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:41.000 I kind of want to give you maybe a bit of a preview as 17 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:48.400 to what my after dart show that will be going up on Patreon starting next 18 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:56.519 Friday at the SmackDown tier or higher, What is in store and maybe why 19 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:01.040 you guys should consider checking it out. And I'm gonna cover two things tonight. 20 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:05.200 And first off, I'm gonna kind of put a bowl on rivalries in 21 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:09.759 retro and explain to you what it kind of meant for me. And you 22 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:15.840 know, I started doing this podcast with Matt about four years ago. A 23 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.879 little over four years ago, May of twenty nineteen, I believe, was 24 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:24.000 when I joined the podcast. I was in a three person rotation with Ashley 25 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:30.800 Mann and Mary Grader. I remember it like yesterday and every third Wednesday we 26 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.400 would do the weekend review because remember back then, SmackDown Live was aired on 27 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:42.240 Tuesdays and all that. And you know, I can't really believe how far 28 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:46.080 we've come in more than four years now, right through the pandemic era, 29 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:53.120 right through my change of careers. I'm sure, as some of you may 30 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:58.120 have known or maybe not have, I keep my private life pretty private, 31 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:02.599 but I had I have a very h not demanding job, but it's blue 32 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:06.800 collar, right, so shift work, So at the beginning there's a lot 33 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:14.639 of night shift and weekend work and all that, and the the first two 34 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:19.039 years or so was pretty brutal, So I would say from spring of two 35 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:24.639 twenty until you know what, even right up until this winter this past winter 36 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:28.199 was almost the first three years. There was a bit of a period where 37 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:35.280 it did improve a decent amount, but the lion share of me doing this 38 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:42.240 podcast for you has been during a very difficult yet rewarding time of my life 39 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:50.479 career wise. And I also have a part time job covering the NHL as 40 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:59.719 a reporter slash very very very new and junior insider. So I mean I 41 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:04.199 I have a very very busy life. So there were times where I couldn't 42 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:09.400 come on here and get retro to you or rivalries to you. But most 43 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:15.680 of the time I really did try and carve out a half an hour to 44 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:20.560 forty five minutes. And I guess, first of all, I'll tell you 45 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.959 what that meant to me, because, as you guys know, growing up 46 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:30.800 predominantly in the ruthless aggression era, getting the last little bit of the attitude 47 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:36.079 era the past wrestling really means a lot to me. It was a massive 48 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:40.519 part of my childhood. It was a massive part of friendships I still have 49 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:45.800 to this day, specifically with my best friend, and how I still relate 50 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:49.240 to everyday life. And it was a part of my life from when I 51 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:54.120 was four or five years old on. That was really a cornerstone of who 52 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:58.600 I became. And it even made me like other types of theater, like 53 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.920 a live action theater. I took drama in high school. I like to 54 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:08.399 go to plays with my girlfriend, like wrestling at a young age really shaped 55 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:13.040 a lot of me. So being able to come on here the last three 56 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:16.879 years I started rivalries, I believe my first one was August or September two 57 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:21.399 thousand and twenty one, So the last two years rather being able to come 58 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:25.319 on here the past two years or oh no, no, it was twenty 59 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.439 twenty. I've been doing this since two twenty, my god, when I 60 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.959 started rivalries. So yeah, the last three years, being able to come 61 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:38.279 on here and share some of my favorite rivalries or retro moments with you has 62 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:43.360 been a blast. And I hope that I have been able to, you 63 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:48.120 know, convey what some of these events meant to me properly to you guys, 64 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:51.920 and maybe I helped you go back and look at some of these moments 65 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:58.160 that I didn't that you guys had never thought of before, or you had 66 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:02.439 never even lot of going back to think about because it was just so long 67 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.279 ago. But then when you heard me cover it or played a certain bit 68 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:08.720 of audio, you'd be like, oh my god, I remember when that 69 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:12.040 happened. And you know that that was kind of my goal here, and 70 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:16.480 it also allowed me to relive a lot of these great moments of yesterday year 71 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.120 in WWE, And I really thank you guys for that of giving me that 72 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:28.000 opportunity to play these clips for you and go over these timetables for you and 73 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.920 kind of tell you what it meant for me and my recollection of it, 74 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.720 whether it was ten years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago and 75 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:40.000 all that. But lately I found that I've kind of been hitting a wall 76 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.680 as opposed to not only coming up with ideas. Right. That's the main 77 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:49.199 reason why I stopped doing rivalries and rebranded it as Retro was because I was 78 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:54.639 just running out rivalries. I think I got up to man, I think 79 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.319 I was well over well. I did it for about a year and a 80 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.800 half, so I think I was getting close to a hun rivalries. I 81 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:05.319 remember I wrote it down and I was doing all different types of all different 82 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:10.000 types of combinations, and I just remember thinking, like, you know what, 83 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:15.480 this is literally running its course and running its coores fast, and I 84 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:20.439 really got thinking about maybe doing something different after my Cody Rhodes rant, which 85 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:24.399 a lot of you guys seemed to like. I'm sure there are some of 86 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.600 you guys who hated it, but it got a reaction right, whether it 87 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:32.720 be negative or positive. It was a polarizing segment that I had. And 88 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:38.600 obviously you guys like my current day of WWE with Matt that I do every 89 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:41.600 Monday, and I think Matt and I have great chemistry on air. We've 90 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:44.800 been doing this for over four years at this point, you know, we've 91 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.480 never met face to face, although we don't live all that far away, 92 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:49.800 like he lives in Albany, I live in Montreal. I believe it's like 93 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:54.439 a two three hour drive. But he has become a very good friend of 94 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:58.240 mine, and I am proud to say that, and I'm honored to say 95 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.360 rather that I've been able to become a staple of this podcast for the last 96 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:07.680 four plus years. But I just felt like maybe I wanted to give you 97 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.360 guys more of a real version of myself, and not to say that I'm 98 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.439 going to come on here and tell you what I have for lunch, or 99 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:18.199 how good or bad my day was, or what if my cat died like 100 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.639 stuff like that. But I'm not going to spill like all my personal guts 101 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:28.240 on here. But I just felt like maybe you guys wanted more of a 102 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:33.720 real version of me. And that's kind of what we're going to tackle and 103 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.360 explore on after Dark. And it's not going to be like a set timeline 104 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.960 of thirty minutes of forty five minutes some episodes, maybe fifteen minutes, some 105 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.759 maybe an hour. Maybe I'll have a guest on here and there. It's 106 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.080 just going to be wherever the wind blows. And that's kind of my goal 107 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:52.799 going forward. And I hope that most of you will be able to come 108 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:58.879 out on over and check it out, and hopefully it's exactly maybe but the 109 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.759 doctor ordered in terms of what you guys were looking for in terms of a 110 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:13.000 listening experience, And obviously it's gonna be mostly wrestling heavy, but I'm not 111 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:18.399 going to make it exclusive to wrestling, and I think that's the point of 112 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.480 After Dark, is that we could take this wherever we want. And obviously 113 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:24.960 right now it's still PG. But when we move over to Patreon next week, 114 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.039 the next time you hear my lovely voice without Matt by my side, 115 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.960 it will be you know, an R rated show. Not to say that 116 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:37.000 I'm gonna swear just for the sake of it or be vulgar just for the 117 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:43.039 sake of it, but it will be something that obviously if your discretion is 118 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:50.080 advised. So before I get into the main topic or the second topic of 119 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:52.039 what I want to get to tonight, I just want to say thank you 120 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:58.320 so much for allowing me to take you back in time with me. Whether 121 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:01.120 it was rivalries or retro. I know it was very rock heavy. I 122 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:07.799 know it was very ruthless aggression heavy. But at the same time, it 123 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.639 was really cool the last three years to go back in time and really just 124 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.720 explore all these different moments of yesteryear and go back on the WW network and 125 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.919 look at things that I hadn't watched for over a decade, and go back 126 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:28.440 and watch you know, weekly episodes of SmackDown in you know, in Line 127 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.519 and you know, get lost in stories so I could come on here and 128 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:35.759 properly articulate what was going on for specific rivalry or specific pay per view that 129 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.720 I came on here to cover. So thank you so much. So the 130 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.120 first thing I want to get to, and this will be very fast, 131 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:48.519 was I heard on Matt's mailbag. Was someone asked, as a massive Rock 132 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:56.759 fan myself, that is what was my favorite moment or moments of the Rock. 133 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:03.600 And that is a crazy, crazy question. You know, when I 134 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:09.679 was really old enough to track it weekly and no week to week and pay 135 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.559 per view to pay per view, what was going on the Rock was no 136 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.360 longer a full time wrestler. When I kind of, you know, for 137 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.879 lack of better terms, fell in love with The Rock as a performer, 138 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.600 obviously a wrestler, I was about five or six, so two thousand, 139 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.200 two thousand and one, but that's you know, I wasn't really keeping track 140 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:37.240 of the storylines and why he was fighting Austin or Taker or Triple H. 141 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:43.399 By the time I actually was able to grasp why every show was following each 142 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.360 other and why stories were happening, he was out. I would say it 143 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.000 was around two thousand and three when I really started to catch on in that 144 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.759 capacity, so it may come as a shock, but it's not him, 145 00:11:54.879 --> 00:12:01.399 you know, winning the WWF Championship against Triple H or you know, well, 146 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:07.360 yeah, okay, So I guess my favorite Rock moment ever is Wrestling 147 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:11.279 at nineteen against Stone Cold Steve Auston, because I was old enough to remember 148 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:16.879 why that match was happening, the ramifications of that match happening, the build 149 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:24.000 to it right after it being known as Austin's last match for the next nineteen 150 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:30.159 years or whatever it ended up being. So that is probably my favorite rock 151 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:33.200 moment just because as soon as the count hit three or all him and they're 152 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.559 counted the three count, the rock brow character and you saw him have his 153 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.960 moment with stone Cold Steve Auston in the middle of the ring, and obviously 154 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:46.639 he was full blown Hollywood heal at that time, but you just saw him 155 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:50.559 completely come out character as soon as he got the final pinfall and stone Cold 156 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.679 Steve Austin, and you know it was the right thing to do. Austin 157 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:58.279 had won the first two encounters at Wrestling at fifteen and seventeen, respectively, 158 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.960 and with the raw on his way out, you know, a short month 159 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.279 later from a full time capacity, putting over Bill Goldberg in the process, 160 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.639 and Steve Auston wrestling his last match. It just made so much sense, 161 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.759 and it aged like a fine wine, and you know, even in retrospect, 162 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.159 it looks even better than it did in real time. And some of 163 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.159 the other moments were his returns in two thousand and four, which was kind 164 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:28.720 of like the last year where he was even like a semi regular wrestler and 165 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.960 kind of showed up like in two thousand and four. Obviously, he shows 166 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.200 up ahead of wrestling a twenty two team with mcfoley against Evolution. Then he 167 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:43.039 comes back to save Eugene, which is something that I was going to originally 168 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:48.240 cover. Tonight comes back and has an encounter with Randy Orton, has an 169 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:54.559 encounter with Coach and Lar Resistles, and then those returns in two thousand and 170 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.639 four felt so special because, you know, the Ruthless Aggressionaire was going on 171 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:03.399 its way and doing a pretty good job all things considered, and when the 172 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:05.559 Rock would come back, it was kind of like, man like, imagine 173 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.600 if the Rock was still here in the Ruthless Aggression, And I think that's 174 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:16.080 such a fascinating question, so to answer the question from the listener who I 175 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.120 forget your name, I'm very sorry. The rock winning at Rescuing in nineteen 176 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:26.240 followed by his returns in two thousand and four. We're probably my favorite rock 177 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.759 moments. So now to give you a sneak peek on what we may be 178 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:37.600 catching on the after Dart show. So someone asked on the mail bag if 179 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.279 I think college is a scam, and this is very interesting. It's a 180 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.480 very interesting question because not only do I have a lot to say on the 181 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.200 matter, but me living in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, I'd probably have 182 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.879 a unique scope on the matter as well. So I'll give you my background. 183 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:01.279 First off, So I graduated from a thing that we have in Quebec 184 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:05.080 called say Jepp. It doesn't exist anywhere else in Canada and certainly not in 185 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.720 the United States. It's exclusive to the province of Quebec. And what say 186 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:18.480 Jep is is kind of like a buffer between high school and university slash college. 187 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:24.879 So in say Jepp, you go in for more or less two years 188 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.000 two and a half, depend on how many courses you take, and then 189 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:33.519 that gets you set for university, or you go in for three or four 190 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:39.679 years in a career program, police tech, paramedic, computer science or some 191 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.840 of the courses they offer at the stage up that I went to, and 192 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:46.720 you come out and you have a career right away. My brother is in 193 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:50.879 the process of trying. My brother's much younger than me. He's twelve years 194 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:56.240 younger than me, and he's in the process of just starting sage up and 195 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.879 trying to get into computer tech. So good luck to him. Great age 196 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:08.120 to be seventeen. I remember it like yesterday. So in Quebec, university 197 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:14.279 and college is also much cheaper. So if you're in the United States, 198 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:22.000 I would imagine you're paying somewhere in the neighborhood of what twenty to thirty thousand 199 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:26.799 dollars a semester. I think obviously I don't want to speak out a turn 200 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:33.360 here, but it is I think that's generally what it is. In Ontario. 201 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:38.600 It's about and I'm basing it off of when I was going to college, 202 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:45.639 university, whatever, So we're going back nine years or so. Makes 203 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:48.799 me feel old, I know, or maybe eight years. Whatever it was 204 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:56.120 it was about in Ontario four to five thousand dollars to go to university slash 205 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:02.919 college a semester. In Quebec. It was two thou So Quebec is very 206 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.319 renowned for its cheap schooling, and we also have very renowned schools, most 207 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.400 notably McGill for their medicine program. People come to McGill from all over the 208 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:17.680 world. They also have a very good law program. So I would say 209 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:26.000 in terms of college slash education slash university being a scam in Quebec, maybe 210 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:33.240 not, because it's not that expensive and we have the option of say Jeff 211 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.920 and I. Maybe I guess it's the same concept as community college. Maybe 212 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:42.400 that's a kind of a decent comparison, although you can go into this straight 213 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:48.319 out of high school. But and say Jeppe, I believe is like two 214 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.680 to three hundred bucks a semester. So I mean, even if you go 215 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.920 in and you bleep around, and next week when I do this show, 216 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.640 I won't even have to say bleep. But even if you go in there 217 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:07.880 and you bleep around and bleep the dog and kind of waste your time and 218 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.839 your money or your parents time and your parents money and you just have fun, 219 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:18.319 it really isn't that big of a scam. And I'll use myself as 220 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:25.599 an example. I went to sage from seventeen years old to nineteen years old 221 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:30.160 took me two and a half years. I graduated in media arts. I 222 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:34.480 wanted to become a sports journalist. And you know, I bleeped around a 223 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:38.480 lot. I had fun. I got decent grades. I think my grades 224 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:44.759 were usually somewhere in the c's or seventy fives. I think that's a C. 225 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.160 Seventy five. Seventy five to eighty is usually where I fell in with 226 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.119 my grades. What letter that is can tell you. I think it's about 227 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.720 a C, maybe C plus. I don't know. So I was a 228 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:03.200 very average student. I didn't try a lot, very lazy, very lazy 229 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:07.920 student. And I would venture, yes that my girlfriend would tell you that 230 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:14.880 I'm very lazy man now as well. Just generally hated studying, could not 231 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:19.599 stand it. I could wing stuff pretty well. But that caught up to 232 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:25.079 me in university. When I got into university, I went to the winter 233 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:32.839 semester of twenty fourteen. I flunked out in real quickly. So you know, 234 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.200 I guess it costed my parents between sage up and university to semi to 235 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:42.559 school, like I want to say, maybe three to four thousand dollars I 236 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:47.720 came away with a degree from sage up that means a whole lot of nothing, 237 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:55.839 and flunked out of university after one semester. So obviously, media arts 238 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:03.319 was something I somewhat explored between doing this and my media gig part time in 239 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:10.200 hockey. But my main job is blue collar. I you know, it's 240 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:12.319 something that just requires a high school degree, make a good living, but 241 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:18.119 nothing astronomical, you know, benefits pension, all that, And I worked 242 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:25.400 for the City of Montreal. And you know, I think after I went 243 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:33.359 to university, I realized maybe that that wasn't a scam, but I realized 244 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:34.960 that you had to have the right frame of mind to go through it. 245 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:38.720 And you know, I have a lot of friends who went to university and 246 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.839 made good on it. But I also have a lot of friends who went 247 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.240 to university and did absolutely nothing with it. Have a friend who went there 248 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:52.480 and graduated in English literature or something, and now he is a roofer with 249 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:56.319 his dad's company. I have another friend who graduated as a teacher and now 250 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.079 he just got a job with the Government of Canada, which is a very 251 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.559 very very good job. I have another buddy who graduated in finance, and 252 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.200 he's working with the government. So I think Matt touched on that as well, 253 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.319 that you get degrees in one thing, but you work in a different 254 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.359 field. But it's just about having that degree and separating yourself from the pack 255 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:21.799 of everyone else. So in Quebec, I would say it isn't a scam 256 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:26.240 just because of the financial part of things, because it even for me, 257 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.640 like even if you go through university, I think like if you get out 258 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:33.480 in and out there in three years, let's say that's the average you get 259 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:40.119 in and out of university, I think your debt is probably going to be 260 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:44.599 no more than twenty thousand dollars, maybe into the twenty five I mean that 261 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:47.799 twenty five thirty range, which is a lot of money, don't get me 262 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:52.359 wrong, But it's nothing like you see sometimes maybe in the States or even 263 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.000 elsewhere in Canada, when you're into like north of fifty thousand dollars and even 264 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:02.119 the six figures sometimes. So I would say that there is a certain element 265 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:06.240 that is a scam because you don't need to go to university to make a 266 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:10.839 good living. You don't have to go to school to feel like a success, 267 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.000 which I will say when I was in high school. Felt like that 268 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:18.559 was how it was supposed to be. You were supposed to go to college 269 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.839 and university and do whatever you worked in the field of whatever you studied. 270 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.319 But that's not the case. And look give myself as an example. Right 271 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:32.400 out of university after I flunked out, I did landscaping for twelve bucks an 272 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:37.720 hour and it was horrible. It was really really brutal work. When I 273 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.279 was nineteen twenty years old, summer twenty fourteen, and you know, I'm 274 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:45.920 a twelve bucks an hour work sixty five hours a week, and I did 275 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:49.039 that for about six years. I worked my way up of the company, 276 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:53.480 I mean as much as you can in a twenty person landscaping company. You 277 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:57.799 know. I got my license to drive heavy vehicles, I became a truck 278 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:03.160 driver, I learned how to drive equipment. I got pretty good at excavation, 279 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:06.640 made my way into you know, like the twenty dollars an hour. 280 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:11.599 But even doing that, you know, like not working the winter, you 281 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:17.599 know, having very like long, stressful hours, brutal work into I was 282 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.599 getting into my mid twenties at that point in time, was starting to settle 283 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:26.160 down with my girlfriend that we've now been together for over five years, and 284 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.400 it wasn't really conducive with the life that I wanted to live. But I 285 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:34.440 stalked away a lot of money doing that, and I stalked away a lot 286 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.759 of experience doing that, and I was able to buy my first property at 287 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:42.759 a very young age doing that, And especially with inflation and the housing markets 288 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:49.880 and interest rates, I'm very, very happy and thankful that I took that 289 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:55.079 path, because without taking the path I did, I wouldn't have been able 290 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:57.279 to save the money that I did and bought the property that I did and 291 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:03.279 turned that into the property I now have, which is obviously a bigger and 292 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:07.839 more luxurious property. And I'm not even thirty years old yet. So there 293 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:15.119 is a certain part of university education college that is a scan. That being 294 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.200 said, I will never ever discourage someone from going to university. I will 295 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:23.240 just say, know what the bleep you are doing if you are going to 296 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:27.519 university, If you're going in there just to go wherever the wind takes you, 297 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.839 and you know, have a good time, which is important. You 298 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:37.640 know, it is about having fun and drinking and beer pong and have you 299 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.160 guys ever, if anyone out there has seen the show Blue Mountain State. 300 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:45.599 First of all, funny show and really sets the tone for maybe a stereotypical 301 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.880 university life. And second of all, it was filmed at the college I 302 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:56.240 went to in Montreal, the suburb Saint and de Bellevue. So if anyone 303 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.400 out there is a Blue Mountain State fan, I went to that school that 304 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:04.039 it was filmed that so a little I guess gloating moment for me. So 305 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:07.759 it is about having fun as well, especially if you played a sport football, 306 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:12.960 hockey, rugby, soccer, whatever. There is an experienced element to 307 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.799 going to school when the grand scheme of things. If you're there and you 308 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:21.279 don't really know what you want to do, get the hell out, go 309 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.799 work something blue collar And that's another thing. Blue collar isn't bad. They're 310 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:27.599 really I think maybe it's starting to shift now a bit, you know, 311 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:33.559 with the need of electricians and plumbers and HVAC workers. Well there's all that. 312 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.960 When I was in high school, it was kind of like looked downly 313 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:41.559 on. But all I'll say about college and university is like, if you're 314 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:47.200 going in there to be a lawyer or a doctor or a dentist or something 315 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:52.200 super badass, you know, you know, an accountant and actuary, any 316 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:53.839 of that stuff. Go for it, man, because you're going to have 317 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.559 a hell of a life at the end of the tunnel. It may take 318 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.319 you ten to fifteen years to get there, but you will love the result. 319 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.720 But if you're just going in there in a major in history or philosophy, 320 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:10.799 or English literature, or even communications or journalism, which was my field, 321 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.640 which is a dying, dying profession, I would just ask you to 322 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:18.160 think long and hard about what you're doing, because there is a part of 323 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.680 it that can feel like a scam, and it will be a scam, 324 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:27.160 especially if you're paying twenty thirty forty thousand dollars a semester slash year for this 325 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:32.240 schooling. So I mean, I can't really say one way or another if 326 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.000 it's a scam. I think it's all relative to where you live, how 327 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:41.960 much financial backing you have from your parents, how driven you are and passionate 328 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:48.160 you are about any specific topic or subject or course that you look at exploring 329 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.279 educationally, and like, look, I'll use my brother in law, who 330 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.839 I think is a very good example as well. You know he was it 331 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.799 took him a bit longer to get the university but now he has a super 332 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.519 badass job and he has a super badass life and he makes good money. 333 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:10.759 And like, I think that's it really is all relative and not one situation 334 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.480 is the same as another one. So is it a scam? I think 335 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.480 it can be a lot of the times. Is it always a scam? 336 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.559 Is it always the same answer? No, it isn't in my mind. 337 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:27.039 If it were meat or not my mind in my situation, had I continued 338 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:33.559 in university, maybe not a scam because I benefit from living in Quebec where 339 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.599 education is fairly cheap. But it would have been a waste of time because 340 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.079 of where I ended up. So I mean, definitely an interesting conversation and 341 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.359 I hope you guys enjoyed it. But anyway, that's all I got for 342 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.599 you. But this is kind of preview as to what we are going to 343 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.279 be doing on after Dark. I wanted to give you that opportunity to listen 344 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:57.799 before you go into Patreon blind and get into that SmackDown Tier. Remember it 345 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:02.839 is the SmackDown Tier, not the NXT tire. We'll be behind the SmackDown 346 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.880 paywall, but we'll also be talking wrestling. I could guarantee you're gonna hear 347 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.559 some Cody Roads rants. You're probably gonna hear some other rants too. I'll 348 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:14.559 tell you some of my other funny moments of my life. I won't get 349 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.279 too too personal, but this is kind of the format what we're going to 350 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.759 look for. So anyway, guys, I hope I have you tune in 351 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.279 next week, have an awesome weekend, and I'll be talking to you next 352 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:33.319 time. Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to subscribe on 353 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:38.599 your favorite podcast app so you don't miss a show, or head to WWE 354 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:44.079 podcast dot com. 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