I don't want to be an American. Y Oh, they're not your granddad's
Republican party anymore. Did you see those fireworks last night? I did,
and enjoyed it thoroughly. Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, Dana White, fight
fight fight awesome, absolutely beyond the pale. And then the president's speech.
I mean, plenty of other great speakers on the stage last night in Milwaukee,
but they did save the best for last in some ninety minutes, calmly,
with loving regard for every American no more mean tweet Donald quite impressive,
I thought, Gary Jeff Ben for Scott Sloan on this Friday, July nineteenth,
twenty twenty four. And a great lineup of guest today, Well it's
I think it's great, which is really ultimately all the matters. But first
and foremost, I'm gonna talk to an old friend of mine, we're radio
friends. One day he is going to have his private jet and he is
gonna fly up and meet Chris to two point zero and I are somewhere in
hopefully take us away. H Forensic psychologists based out of Austin, Texas.
My friend doctor John Huber joining in on this Friday morning on seven hundred WLW.
Hello doctor Hubert, Hello, Good morning, Gary, Jeff. How
are you this morning? I just I feel so invigorated. Maybe it's I
was. I was shooting up the Republican National Convention last night after work at
the bar, and uh, it was quite a good buzz, That's all
I could. And it just felt like everybody in that room, or maybe
anybody who was possibly watching, was catching that buzz. And I'm sure that
drives Democrats absolutely crazy. Where are you, by the way, I am
in Austin, Texas, and I'm sitting outside. You know, are we
getting too much noise outside? Do you no? We like the birds.
We liked the accompaniment of the birds with the conversation. So tell me what's
the latest and greatest with doctor Hubert, And then I've got some questions for
you. Well, you know, I'm just kind of excited watching everything happen.
Like you said, you know, we got the RNC and then you
know, a short time after that, we're going to have the DNC,
and everybody's watching, you know, because our president, our sitting president,
now has his uh COVID. You know, he said if he got sick,
he may he may be withdrawing, so I think, uh, you
know, everything's still up in the air. What what our presidential tomorrow?
Tomorrow, tomorrow or Sunday. What's your pick? We're taking lots, Sunday,
Sunday, Sunday, Yeah, Sunday, All right, very good.
Well what's your pick? What did you pick? What did you pick?
I picked last week, so I'm already out of it. I picked last
week? Right, Well, yeah, go ahead. Well, you know
I was going to say, you know, just because he actually steps down
even next week sometimes doesn't mean he was already gone last week. Oh.
I think it's been several several months since since the beginning of weekend at Bernie's,
Washington, d C. Style, Right, And it's kind of interesting
to look, you know, as a psychologist, though I've never assessed him,
and all I can do is look at the same behavior everybody else looks
at. Yes, you best best believe your eyes because they ain't lying,
nor your ears. I think you're right. I mean, all it seems
all he seems to have left now is regurgitation of the talking points that they
told him to use forty years ago. I just watched a speech somebody sent
me of Joe Biden in nineteen eighty five railing railing against the Reagan administration for
being racist, and he was, he was panderin Joe back then, and
nothing really has changed. But that's all his muscle memory will allow him to
just go back. And you know how famous our president is for using somebody
else's work calling it his own pledgerism, you know, And I kicked students
out of university for pledgarizing much less than what he's done, and yet we
elevated him to president. So so it's a mixed up world. So,
doctor Huber, let me ask you about President Trump, and did you did
you see or catch any of the speech last night? I you know,
I fell asleep, I'll be honest with you, sitting there in the living
room, and I just, you know, it's been it's been a long,
long couple of weeks. And I've got, you know, a busy
week coming up, and just doing lots of prep because I'm I'm actually in
court next week, and I'm a forensic psychologist, so going over notes and
stuff like that, and no doubt, sometimes it just catches up with you.
So well, here here's my what I gleaned from it was that he
was more measured and more careful and softer than I had seen him. And
somebody else said they can many people mention that his eyes actually look different.
So talk about what happened to the president last Saturday in Pennsylvania and how that
I believe. I believe it was God, and I believe that he has
been changed by this event. I don't think you can help but be changed
by an event like that. If you're not changed by an event like that,
you're just a total zombie sociopath. And I don't think that Trump is
either one of those. But tell me from a psychological standpoint, how in
an event like that, Because you deal with people who are suffering from PTSD
and have traumatic events occur that mark their life, that marked their life for
the rest of their life, tell me, tell me how an instant like
that, that near death experience can change a person and may have changed Donald
Trump. It does change you. I mean, you know, the the
the fact is he's been running around for his whole life with this, uh
you know, this adolescent kind of you know, young adult attitude that you
know, he's untouchable, He's going to live forever. Nothing's going to catch
up to him and then literally he faced death. I mean, and and
there's a lot of stuff going on, and I think that Donald Trump,
of of you know, three months ago, would have railed, would have
just railed on everything come out of that situation. Instead, you know,
I think he's looking at the fact that, hey, you know, he's
not going to live forever, and there could be some you know, crazy
person or some some situation out there, even even a plane crash, you
know, if he has a mechanical failure on his plane. I mean,
there's a lot of things, and all of a sudden, I think he's
looking at that fact, and I think it's taken taken some of the edge
off his corners. And it doesn't mean he's going to be any less effective,
but maybe he's just gonna be a little soft spoken for a while until
they kind that gets through all this and that look in his eyes, and
that could be a lot of different things. At this point, he made
be on a little bit of anxiety medication, which I would I would probably
be upset or dismayed if he isn't, because that was very traumatic and he
he unfortunately has a job to do and he's trying to get elected and he's
got to take that next step. And it's just like you know, any
of our musicians or TV personalities or movie stars anything like that, they have
some kind of situation like that, they're going to come out and they're they're
going to have something, you know, really probably light and nothing really intense,
but something just kind of take the edge off of him so he doesn't
come across, uh with that anger and you know, because that's a fear
response when you come across with that anger like that. Yeah, yeah,
And you've seen and we've seen, we've seen the anger in Joe Biden almost
the man. The man is deathly afraid of reality. He's afraid he's losing
his mind. I'm convinced that he he knows, and that's why he's been
digging in his heels so hard to stay in the race and to stay in
power, because he knows this is it. And that fear has fueled those
angry outbursts that we've we've seen, I mean, the interview with Lester Holt
earlier in the week. Uh oh yeah, so let's and that was so
edited and you still saw the anger, oh yeah. So uh So the
other thing, the other side of this coin for me psychologically, since you're
a psychologist, is that a traumatic event like what happened to President Trump could
also work the other way, It could make some completely fall apart. But
I think it says a lot about the strength and the character of former President
Trump that even in that moment, he was cognizant enough to let people know
he was okay, and you know, kind of like the athlete giving the
thumbs up and they're moving them off the cart on the field, going to
the locker room. But it was the same thing with the secret Now a
lot of people are saying, and I've got two Secret Service agents on a
little bit later on the program this morning, but a lot of people have
conjunctured that they never should have let him get up at all, because if
a camera can see you, then a second shooter could have seen you.
But he just popped up like toast and punked his fist in the air,
telling people that he was okay and they were going to continue the fight,
fight, fight, And I I admire that. But somebody else had this
happen with a different demeanor, a different care doctor, a different personality,
they might have completely crumbled. True, absolutely, absolutely, and I think
I think there's probably a lot of that adrenaline rush and that that moment when
he thinks, oh crap, I am alive. Wow, it didn't work.
And I say that with I say that every morning, oh crap,
I am alive. Well, and then and then you know, he probably
needed to change his output when he got into the car. You know,
I don't know, because because when that realization hit, you know that that
that was that close. I mean, I it's easy to lose control.
It's easy to lose control. And if nothing else upset stomach, he probably
wasn't very hungry for a while, and then he was starving. You know,
it was like when that fight or fly mechanism kicks in. You're ready
to fight. That's at adrenaline rush and you're you're stoked and everything else.
And then once you settle in, that's that's when your body recessed itself and
said, well, we've got to take a break here for a few minutes.
And uh, you know that that's by the time he got that bandage
on his ear, and uh, you know it, you know, Luke
Skywalker be darned, you know he it's it's pretty pretty sad out there.
You got the whole nation on mainstream media that for the last five years,
I'm longer, you know, since since he was elected in sixteen, uh
basically saying to go after him, physically attack him, to to take him
down whatever means possible. You know, whether it's Pelosi, you know,
going out and you gather around all your politicians, all the Republicans, and
show show them a threat. Essentially, Maxine Waters is doing that same thing.
And he's lived through all of this and he's stayed on top. He's
been attacked in the courtroom, and you know for bogus charges. We don't
even know what he was convicted for. There were thirty four charges that are
aligned with one one piece of documents, you know, and they tried to
make thirty four different charges against him. And it only holds through if the
first charge that they put it to him was a felony. And they never
even established what that first charge is. We have no idea. So we
know it's politics. It's politics. It's politics. You know, they appointed
somebody illegally. That person just got taken out of the Florida stuff, and
we know those dominoes are starting to fall in Trump's direction. So he had
a lot of motivation going into this, going into the iron or the yeah,
the RONC and that you know, all of a sudden he had a
hurdle and I'm not going to call it a wall, it was a hurdle.
They lobbed that bullet at him. And you know that that that scenario
there, I cannot believe. I mean that that's you know, it's pure
incompetent. Okay, as someone who who started teaching his kids about hunting and
fishing and and shot placement and you know, advantage taking shot, advantage for
the deer, for whatever you're doing. You know that that place, I
can't believe there wasn't an officer sitting on that roof there. You know.
Yeah, those are questions we are going to definitely get into with our former
secret Service agents doctors. John Hubert, thank you so much for checking out.
I'm sorry if I rambled this morning. It's just a whole lot of
stuff going on, a whole lot of stuff going on. Man, I
get it what I mean. I don't have you on so I can ask
you a question. You go, No, I want you to. I
want you to ramble, my friend, I want you. Thank you so
much. Thank You're welcome and I will talk to you soon. There's no
doubt about that. Leslie Corbi is coming up after news find out who she
is. Just stick around on seven hundred WLW. Hello and welcome back to
that thing between the commercial stop sets called the show seven hundred WLW. Gary
Jeff Walker in for Scott Sloan Today and our next guest is an author,
a poet, and an attorney well two out of three eight bad. She's
also likes to comment socially and politically and into theology. She has an interesting
classical literature which will probably take her to bring up because I probably won't.
And she also plays a piano. She is the author of the book Silent
Suffering Poems of Pain and Purpose, and is our guest now, Leslie Korby,
Good morning, Corbi, Good morning. So you're there in the beautiful
state of Utah. Yes, and so you're married. And now what struck
me is the CrossFit, the hiking I can understand, especially if you're in
Utah. The playing piano. What do you have any favorite selections? Leslie
oh Man playing piano. So I guess I taught myself like how to read
music. You know as a kid, and then always wanted to learn more
but got distracted doing things like going to law school. Favorite selections I really
enjoy, not, by by the way, just play intermediately. I'm not,
by any stretch of the imagination, a skilled pianist, but I do
really enjoy playing like I guess, Walt Chopin's walton a minor, some Beethoven,
some easy Mozart and easy Chopin. By the way, showmaking really complicated
well beyond my the k Tel The k TEL hit list of classical composers sounds
good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really enjoy classical music for sure.
Occasionally I play some you know, like renditions of Broadway classics or something
like that, but primarily classical. Cool. Well, all right, now
that now that the meeting stuff's out of the way, let's talk about what
we were going to talk about, not only your book, your book of
poems. Now, what made you decide to have a collection of poems together?
Too? Uh? To kind of push a certain thought that you had
about why it was important to do that, What what made you made what
made you decide to do this? Sure, so I I've thought for some
time that the creative world in general is too homogeneous, very left wing leaning,
yeah and whack some. It lacks the diversity of thoughts, so to
speak, becomes with different viewpoints, and I think that that's not good for
culture. So I think libertarian and kind of minded folks such as myself are
sort of intent I don't know, for whatever reasons, seem to have abandoned
the realm of culture. So I think the culture wars were won by the
left largely because it seems as if people of a different persuasion self abandoned certain
areas. So as far as it relates specifically with the poetry collection, I
was inspired to write that collection both because I think that realm of culture has
been abandoned to a very homogeneous crowd, and then also because I think that
realm, partially due to that abandonment, has become a very void of analytic
griggor so we think of right brain and left brain. Right you either care
about logic or you care about emotion, and so part of the purpose of
the collection is to synthesize those two aspects of our humanity, because it's more
much more more holistic than we give ourselves credit for, you know, or
no one's really full emotion or full logic. Right, you end up being
this blend of both. And it's not, actually, my view, healthy
to think of yourself as either fully detached or emotion or fully void of reason.
Right. Either either extreme, I think is really dangerous in culture.
And I wanted to have a perspective out there that valued both. And it
showed how ideas of truth and enduring ideas of truth and goodness require that we
engage with both aspects of who we are. So you felt you felt a
calling basically that it was you know, you have the abilities to do this
and get involved inject that into the culture because it was sorely lacking. I
think that's wonderful. Everybody needs a calling in their line. I'm still looking
for mine, but one thing is for one thing is for sure. President
Trump has found his calling and and he is he is following that and those
those you know, those better angel voices, you know, in a time
when after everything that he has been put through, uh by by the leftist
side, he is not just surviving but seems to be thriving right now.
And it's wonderful for me to see because I'm a fan. I'm a fan
of the ideas. Not necessarily a fan of the man, but I'm a
fan of the less government in your life, less regulation, less taxation,
utilizing our natural resources instead of listening to these voices who are basically unscientific while
claiming that they are science. And uh and now the assassination attempt, And
you made a good point, and I'll let you expound upon it, Leslie,
is that the left has finally got off their high horse. They've been
kicked off their high horse, and they don't have the moral high ground anymore,
demeaning President Trump and his rhetoric or mean tweets after the assassination attempt of
last Saturday. Correct, Yes, yes, I think that there's I think
that the messaging that Democrats and the leftist side of the aisle have been able
to push for decades of being you know, sort of the people of compassion,
the people who are empathy and tolerance and love is I think we're really
seeing an end of those days. And I think that this is actually,
I mean, as historic as the assassination attempt was in relation to just the
Roman politics, I think this is going to bleed over into broader cultural discussions
as well, because it's becoming very difficult to maintain that point of messaging as
the left of center voices have become more and more nakedly hypocritical in relation to
how they treat those that they perceive as others. Right, So this view
there there's somehow beyond prejudice or beyond bias against identity groups or individuals who see
things differently. I just don't know that that narrative can hold anymore. I
don't see how that's palpable to the public calling the assassination attempt. All you
have to do is and they of course always pointed to President Trump's rhetoric and
his language and the memes and the mean tweets. And at the same time
you have a Maxine Waters talking about creating a crowd and wherever they are,
they don't deserve to be left safe and public because they're evil right wing conservatives
and they're here to destroy America and just take you, take away your rights
and all those other things, and all those shrill voices for years, those
hypocritical, shrill voices. They are a reflection of the lefts bent to point
the finger at their adversary when they are doing the exact same thing. That's
one of the basic tenets of rules for radicals. Yes, and really good
at it for decades upon decades, you know. That was another Frankly,
another inspiration behind writing the poetry was sort of to call culture back to this
idea of we critique the past, and we've done this for so long.
We critique ideas of the past, traditions, religions, and it's not agree.
I'm grateful for that. You know, every culture, when you have
a dominant ideology or a dominant belief system, whether or that's religious or not,
comes at a cost. The problem is, for decades, we've really
never counted the cost of what some of these more secular, progressive, postmodern
you know, they're kind of difficult, sort of intentionally difficult to define,
but we don't really critique what they mean culturally. What happens when a culture
embraces these set of values, right, And I think we're reaching a moment
where that critique can occur because the notion that it's only ideas of the past,
that great marginalization is coming to an end. There's too many voices cropping
up from various areas of society that can kind of point to ways in which
dominant progressive dogmas are directly influencing culture in a negative manner. So I think
I'm glad this is coming to an end, but I am also concerned because
we have as a culture just we're so fractured, so relativistic. It's difficult
to see any real shared values much between various individuals and groups, and that
can cause a lot of friction and high polarization. And so when people are
disaffected, you know, on either side you have just a higher degree of
conflict. Do you think do you believe that President Trump's call for last night
and his insistence that their party is going to absolutely absolutely want to be inclusive
of everyone, do you think it's going to take and do you think the
Republicans are bought into that and can they make that a real thing for their
platform and their party this time around? And President Trump, I certainly hope.
So, you know, I think it's I think we're at a very
critical moment, and honestly a dangerous one. I think there's a lot of
unknowns we've had. I mean, it's hard to believe that it was nine
years ago at the Escalator ride was nine years ago or thereabouts, and there's
been just so much conflict, especially I would say, in the psychological realm,
right, think of how information moves today, how people are kind of
constantly connected to their devices and constantly connected to frankly a lot of negativity that's
often freely vented online, and so I certainly hope that's the case. I
think that if there is a party of inclusion, it's going to be very
difficult to argue that at this point is not the Republican Party, particularly after
the platform changes at the RNC this past weekend. So I certainly hope it's
able to take and I hope that we're able to have at least one party
that that is more inclusive. But I think that it's also also indicative of
what I what I've been writing about, which is that the notion that the
Democratic Party and the leftist side of the Aisle can really message as if they
are the inclusive, tolerant party. I just think those days are coming to
an end. I'm sure that they'll continue to, you know, use those
lines for some time, but as far as it being palpable or believable to
the public, I don't think it's going to a right I mean, take
anymore people are. People are starting to see with their eyes and understand what
their sayings is the way they've been bamboozled by a particular political party or maybe
by both. Over all these years, Leslie and everything, everything's becoming more
I want to say, transparent without an effort on either side. Everything is
becoming much more transparent, and people are seeing the truth and the truth shall
set you free. Leslie CORBLI thank you so much. The book once Again
is Silent Suffering Poems of pain and purpose, and it's out now right.
Yes, it is available through all major book retailers on Amazon, and yeah,
readily accessible. So I'd love for people to grab a copy. And
if you're interested in the combination of philosophy, history and theology to critique the
kind of more leftist side, it's certainly interesting. It sounds interesting to me.
Maybe next time we can is playing piano. I don't know that.
Maybe you know, I'll do anything. I'm a pretty open person, all
right, Leslie Corby, thank you so much for your time today. Ken
Valentine, a former Secret Service agent up after the News at ten Gary jeffen
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I'm Gary Jeff Walker in for Scott Sloan. On this Friday, July
nineteenth, twenty twenty four, the Republican National Convention concludes last night with President
Trump, the nominee, taking the stage for the last ninety minutes of the
party in Milwaukee. Fantastic speech. The fact that he was even standing there
giving the speech is a combination of God's grace. So that's first and foremost,
and as far as the earthly realm, the Secret Service agents who were
there to shield the president after the fact. The more we learn about what
happened before the assassination attempt last Saturday in Pennsylvania, the more questions come up.
The more we know, the more we want to know. I figured
it'd be a good idea to talk to somebody who has experience behind the behind
the sunglasses with that thing in their ear, the dark suits, and the
protection of a president as their one job. And for that we have Ken
Valentine, he protected three sitting US presidents as a secret Service agent, has
written a book called Cheating Death, Three time presidential Secret Service Agent Lives to
tell you how for that and much more in the ongoing investigation and the Secret
Services obligation to answer questions, Ken Valentine, Good morning, Ken, how
are you? Good morning, sir. I'm doing fine. I'm glad to
be with you. We're glad to have you. So this new book,
let's get this out of the way that these are just I've not read it.
These are stories of you on your job as a Secret Service agent protecting
the president. Correct, yes, sir. The goal of the book was
to give my kids a glimpse at what their dad did when he was traveling
the world for twenty four years and protecting presidents. Really life advice about faith,
about identity and decision making, protecting yourself, guarding your heart, about
leadership, and about hardship and friendship. But I combined, you know,
the the dad advice with the stories that they'd never heard, because I just
wasn't one of those guys who came home telling stories and frankly not not great
when they put you on the spot to tell a story. But but I
was able to, you know, be intentional about sitting down and writing some
stories that that enhanced the truths that I was trying to impart to my kids,
especially with a from a from a Christian worldview that I have. That's
that was what I was trying to do. At the timeliness is kind of
weird, especially with the with the title cheating death. But but what I
was trying to do there was you know, one thing is we That's a
term that we used on the prison's detail while I was there to kind of,
you know, chip at each other about the importance of our mission,
but a good reminder of what's going to happen if we don't do our job.
That there are way too many people out there that want our leaders dead,
and if we don't do our job, then death is going to have
its way. And our job is to cheat death. And at the same
time, I believe that through faith in Jesus Christ, that that's what happens
when you die, is you cheat death because it doesn't get to hold you
and keep you you get life eternal through him, So faith a major part
of your life and your message in this Ken Valentine. And do you think
this has only strengthened whatever faith Donald Trump had? I think that's what I'm
getting when I'm gleaning from the change in demeanor and just the change in the
overall, overall outlook of the President as he got through this week at the
convention and then last night in the speech. But the acknowledgment of the grace
of Almighty God on a national stage is I think very telling about how how
this has emboldened the faith of many people. Well, I agree, and
and I think you clearly saw the hand of God sparing him. I don't
have any doubt about that. I think God's in charge, He's sovereign,
and and he had his way. Obviously he extended the life of Donald Trump.
And and uh if if if President Trump's not in a position to acknowledge
that appreciate that, then I don't know who would be. I think,
you know, he certainly did a great job last night of laying that out
of thanking the Secret Service for their response. But I also want to point
out that Dana White read a text message from from the President talking about how
you know what the President was thanking him for taking time out of his vacation
to come and and be with them. And I tell you that that text
message, that transparency and that graciousness is exactly what a lot of the folks
that that I know that have served on his detail, both him and First
Lady Malaia Trump, have said about them that they are behind the scenes,
they are completely gracious, they are humble, they are grateful for everything that's
being done for them, and they go out of their way to to make
life easier for the people that whose you know, lives are on the line
and whose lives are on hold with their families to be with his family.
So he he's very genuine. I think you saw that last night, and
and so I'm I'm thankful for that. For from your time as a Secret
Service agent, mister Valentine, just without getting into personalities, but were the
presidents that you served under, were there private personalities markedly different from their public
personas just in general in general? Uh, Unfortunately, it's a little bit
of a mixed bag. I can I can tell you that the President Bush
and I was with him for a long time, his his demeanor and his
personality. When the camera was on and the camera was off, you you
wouldn't know. I mean, there was no difference. What you saw is
what you got. And he didn't care if the camera was on or if
the camera was off. And and so I you know, I could.
I always appreciate that we loved him, and I think it was mutual,
and so we you kind of appreciate that, but that there there is certainly
a desire to you know, to to to perform for the camera. But
I just didn't see a difference between him or with President Trump. Regardless of
the situation. Genuine bleeds through and that's what you're seeing. Well, I
mean, uh so, who are the three presidents you served under? President
Bill Clinton, President George W. Bush and President Obama? Okay, all
right, the Obama's any any thoughts? Well, I will say this,
they were very gracious to us. I you know, I enjoyed five years
of my life serving on his detail, both his campaign detail, and then
went in as a supervisor as he went in as president. We certainly weren't
friends. He never asked my opinion on a single issue, which I would
have been glad to give him. But and the only shot he ever took
it me was to say that I had big years, which you know,
I'm looking at him looking at me, and that I can't believe that,
of all people, you're going to take a shot in my ears those satellite
dishes on the side of his head. Oh so uh so, Ken Valentine,
Let's get to last Saturday, and with your experience what you saw as
possible failures by Secret Service, what you saw that ask you questions of why
did this happen this way? And what was allowed to happen, and the
infiltration of DEI when it comes to hiring and maintaining a career in a government
office, and the dangers of it in any of that on the table for
you. Sure you know the the overwhelming notion here is, and I've said
this publicly already, is it's hard not to use the word failure when the
person that you've been giving in the mission, the privilege and the responsibility of
protecting leaves the stage bleeding from a gunshot won't. So, so that's out
there. I don't shy away from that. You've got to use the word
failure. And when your agency is given that mission and that responsibility. You
have to step up and own that, and that should have been owned before
he even got to the hospital. That that this is secret service one oh
one. It's our mission, it's our responsibility. You can delegate it to
anyone and everyone you want, but at the end of the day, if
it doesn't go well, you you own that. And and that's that's hard
for me to say, but it's in one sense, but it's it's the
truth. So you know, we we own that. We're going to have
to account for that. The investigation has to play out to show why prevention
didn't work. And so I would break it down along those lines. We
have a soup sandwich in the way of prevention going on there, and I
don't know what broke down, and I don't know why, but unacceptable in
prevention of what happened. And then on the other hand, you have the
reaction, which frankly should never happen. We trained for it, we prepare
for it. That's where you know you have to do that. And what
you saw was a textbook reaction, both from President Trump's detail, who jumped
up on that stage while bullets were still in the air. They did not
think about that they just reacted, which is what the training is supposed to
do. It's supposed to train out your thoughts and build that muscle memory to
do what's got to be done. And I give them, I give them
great credit. They could have been a little slower and I'd still be giving
them props. But it was fast. I mean they got up on that
stage and put him down, got him under cover on that stage, which
is which is exactly what that's designed to do. And then they affected an
evacuation and that those are the two missions that team. It's to cover and
evacuate the snipers on the roof Heroic. I'm pretty sure that's the first time
one of our Secret Service counter sniper technicians has ever pulled the trigger on another
human being in our history. So made a perfect shot under stress as shots
were being fired. Why that shot wasn't taken sooner is part of the mess
on our hands right now to understand. And I take nothing away from the
snipers because they are some of the most incredible people I've ever had the pleasure
of working with. So I'm going to give them the benefit of uncertainty right
now about why the shot wasn't taken sooner and assume, at least for me
in my experience, that there was some reason why they didn't have the confidence
to take that shot. And I just don't know what that was. Those
guys, yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. Were you ever in a
situation, in an outdoor situation or any time as you were engaged in protecting
your protectee, the president. Were you ever in a situation where the Secret
Service limited the perimeter to one hundred and thirty yards? I mean, and
that was the excuse that Kim Cheatle gave, is that the local police were
handling the outer perimeter. We were just responsible. But yes, the buck
stops here. The mixed messaging there doesn't work for me or a lot of
other people. And many in Congress are asking the director to step down,
And I mean, do you think that that's warranted? And I'm just looking
at the video again of this kid up on the roof of supposedly a staging
area building that the police were using inside. And then the excuse of the
slow roof and that's why there wasn't a sniper on that root by Cheetel.
Anything to say about any of that, well, I don't know who's giving
her advice right now, but I think she needs to to to let them
go because the messaging has been pretty dismal. You know, the mixed messaging
is so off putting for for the agents, for our partners the Secret Service.
You know, one of the one of the joys of being a Secret
Service agent is and I and I went to seventy four countries all around the
world, nearly avers state in the Union. And when we go into a
town, whether it's Butler, pa Or Los Angeles, or you know,
somewhere in Tennessee like where I am right now, and say, hey,
the President's coming. Uh, the first thing we do when we hit the
ground is we go seek out federals or not federal, but state and local
law enforcement partners to collaborate with. Because the Secret Service is so tiny that
there's I mean, we know ahead of time, and I think this is
a strength. We know ahead of time we can't do this mission on our
own. So we go looking for partnerships and we enjoy the favor of tremendous
law enforcement partnership. And you know, there's other federal agencies that roll into
town and say we're we're large, and we're in charge, and you guys,
get out of the way, and we've got this. And the Secret
Service has never done that. That that's not my experience. And so the
you know, when when we build a security plan the architecture of an individual
event, and they're all they're all unique, they all take a special look.
But you're, you know, the the perimeters are critical. The perimeter
demarketates clean from unclean. And so inside the perimeter, everyone has been through
a magnetometer to to you know, ensure that they have nothing of danger toward
our protectee. The bomb sniffing dogs and you name it, they go through
it. It's you've been through it. It's it's it's thorough. But maybe
more even more important is the buffer. And so right outside that that is
the area the sure that was the area that was not secured sufficiently. Obviously
in Pennsylvania, the book is Cheating Death. Three time presidential Secret Service agent
lives to tell you how, and he's told us how. Ken Valentine,
thank you so much. I'm sorry our time is done for today, but
God bless you my pleasure. Thanks for having me. You got it.
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They all have three names in for Scott's loan on seven hunder WLW Friday
morning, July nineteenth, twenty twenty and Dave had Or and I had kind
of like President Trump. We had a segment all ready to go, and
then CrowdStrike happened overnight. You may have been cognizant of the news. You
may be cognizant of what happened with this outage from something called CrowdStrike. You
may have been infected. You may not have been able to take off from
the airport. You may have had surgery delayed, You may have had Internet
outages of your own, of any number of things, all due to somebody
messed up at one of the large Internet giants named CrowdStrike. To talk about
that, we had to rip up the other speech and we've written a whole
news speech for this segment with Dave Hatter and he's here now so Dave,
what do you know, when did you know it? And how did this
happen and what's going on now? I do not recall Gary jes No,
thanks for having me on as always. Yeah, this has been a wild
day. So I woke up this morning and immediately saw the news that there
was some kind of widespread Microsoft outage. Was kind of how it was originally
reported, but this is not a Microsoft outage. CrowdStrike in the most simpler
terms, makes antivirus software a little more complicated than that, But most people
understand anti virus, think Norton or McAfee, you know, well known brand
names. Kind of in the consumer space. This is sort of high end,
enterprise grade anti virus software. So if you have, you know,
a low risk tolerance, a lot of cybersecurity compliance issues, or you're just
a company that really understands how a product like this can help you, you
know you're going to buy it. They have competitors like Sentinel One, but
they're kind in the top tier of this, and they put out an update
for their antivirus software last night, which apparently then caused Windows computers. They
make antivirus products for Mac and Linux too. It only impacts Windows computers,
but when the computer reboots, it won't restart it. Basically, in nerds
speak, bricks, you get the blue screen to death and you can't get
out of that, which is where the real problem comes in because since the
machine won't boot, a nerd like me can't remote into it to restart it,
and that means someone has to physically go to each computer to address this
problem. So now imagine a company like Kroger or PNG or Delta tens of
thousands, hundreds of thousands of desktop machines and impossibly servers that won't start because
it's been bricked by CrowdStrike, and you start to see the scope of this
thing, and that's why you're seeing so many industries impacted. This is one
of the most well known and well respected, at least until today antivirus packages
out there, and it's caused this. Yeah, until today. They're having
a really bad day, as are most people in the business that use crowdifright.
Thank god, we don't use it. So while it's been crazy for
me today, I am not impacted by the outage. Well all of these
all these airlines being down, I mean, that's the crazy thing. And
supposedly Children's Hospital. Uh, they were affected by this, and if you
had surgery scheduled, they said, show up for your appointed time, but
there's no guarantee you're going to get in because they are just way behind.
Doesn't this again emphasize how we limit ourselves by signing up for all this stuff
online that that we don't have, you know, backups, analog backups of
all these systems. I mean, it shows how vulnerable, vulnerable, the
whole entire society is due to technology. Technology was supposed to make everything simpler,
and yet I'm going to agree with the Gary Jeff, You're exactly right.
The word I like to use is fragile. The whole incentive around all
of this is wrong, and that's why we're in the mess we're in.
Most of these companies are much more confirmed about speed to market and market share
and revenue than they are about building software that is robust and resilient and secure.
I'll tell you SISS, a cybersecurity infrastructure security agency, has been pushing
real hard for about a year something called secure by Design. I'm a big
fan of this because the intent is to force software companies through public pressure.
Right now, about one hundred companies have signed up to this, people like
Microsoft, to force them to focus on building software that is robust and secure
versus I just want to sellment to stuff and hope it all works out for
all of us who are now so dependent up on this stuff. To your
point, and you know, here's my point, there is no indication at
this point this is any kind of cyber attack. I want to come back
to that. Though. It appears that this was just bad software. There
was a bug in the software. Apparently it was not tested thoroughly enough or
correctly in some way, and it rolled out and it has now caused this
giant outage. Think about this garage, Jeff. Let's say you had ten
thousand computers in your organization, and let's say it took one minute per to
fix this. Now it's going to take more than that because you've got to
go to each one physically ten thousand minutes, ten thousand minutes of downtime.
What is that going to cost you as an organization? So you've got downtime
cost you got remediation costs, you got lost business costs. And again,
this is all from what appears to be simply a bug. Most of your
listeners may recall the solar wind tack, which where where bad guys actually broke
in the solar winds. The company that makes software other companies use kind of
like this, and they planted a backdoor in it, which then rolled out
to their customers. Imagine if this were like a Chinese cyber attack on Croudstrike
and they put a bomb in there that couldn't be fixed and purposely destroy the
and brickham well. Better yet, imagine if they could break into Microsoft and
instead of only CrowdStrike based computers down, every Windows in the computer in the
world was down. So that's what I mean by fragile. You hit it.
We've now were entirely dependent on software throughout our entire society, and now
we've seen the instance. We've just got a little taste of what could come.
And this just appears to be a mistake, not an actual malicious event.
We'll see over time how it plays out. But just still on that
for a second. And that's why I like the word fragile. We are
in a very fragile situation thanks to all of this technology. Are you good?
A couple of other things that I wanted to cover with you while I've
got you. The rest of the world claimer, the rest of the media
world clamoring to talk to Dave Hatter because of the crowd strikeoutage like me.
But you're also the mayor of Fort Right, and you recently did something that
you suggest all communities do now, and that is by switching you or city's
domain, and give me the reasons why. Yeah. So, Actually it's
a good segue because this involves it as well. At some point in the
last few years, sizz it took over the top level domain dot gov.
Top level domain is fancy nerds speak for like dot com, dot net,
dot org, the last part you see on the domain name and an email
address or a website, And by taking that over, they've made it possible
to force you to go through a process to use that dot gov domain.
In the old days, you know, it was easy to dis register domain,
set up fake email, set up fake website, and really there was
very little security around it. Now, if you want to use dot gov,
you have to go through a formal process, still out a bunch of
forms and basically prove who you are. So it creates some assurance and there's
some additional controls in the background. Around that. It's kind of nerdy.
I won't get into that, but it's more than just that piece. But
the idea here is if every government agency would switch to something that engine dot
gov and then the public understood if you get an email address from Fort Right,
or if you get an email from the city of Fort Right and it
doesn't end the dot gov, it can't be legitimate. There's no question about
it. It can't be legitimate. And because hackers can't register these domains on
their own, it helps raise the security posture of your organization. Again,
it requires some education because our old dot com addresses still work for the time
being, but ideally, over time we'll wean ourselves off of that entirely.
And then again any kind of dealings with the city of Fort Right and hopefully
every government which is want glad you let me talk about this. I would
like to see your listeners go out and pressure their local governments to make the
switch. The DOCTV domain is free, costs you nothing to get it.
Now, you might have some labor costs to make the switches in your system
to facilitate this. It took it was very easy for us to do this.
So again I'm trying to get the word out why this is a good
thing and why every local government should do this, because you know, again,
as we seen to date, we're so dependent on this stuff now and
any steps you can take to make yourself more secure and protect your residence is
a good thing. Also, Dave Patter, I see the story where Google
was forced to destroy five billion dollars worth of user data that they illegally collected
in something called incognito mode. A quick explanation of that would be that would
be good. Yeah, this is very frustrating for me. If you use
the Google Chrome browser, it has this incognito mode, as do other browsers,
and the theory is that when you're in incognito mode, they're not collecting
data about you. That's how they sell it, and then it gives you
some additional privacy assurances. So what we found from this court case, where
as you mentioned, they are required to bleat a bunch of stuff. People
can go see the particulars on it is interesting is that basically, yes,
they're not storing data on your local computer, but it doesn't stop them from
storing whatever being sent to their servers. And it kind of fits into what
I would describe as privacy washing. They say one thing and give you this
idea that somehow they're protecting your privacy when a natuality, they really aren't.
And that's often a common theme for these large technology companies that operate off the
surveillance capitalism model, which is wh when you look at a company like Google
or Meta, they're not really selling you any kind of product. You are
their product. It's your data, right, they are monetizing your data.
So again, as you know, I'm not a fan of things from Google,
I always encourage people to try to find more privacy friendly options. Gmail
is just as bad. But if you're using Chrome and you think that when
you're in incognito mode you're protecting your privacy by not sharing data with Google,
that court case shows that's clearing out the case. So yeah, that's what
that's all about. And I would recommend people switched to a privacy friendly browser
like Firefox or Brave. It'll work just as well and you will have a
lot less concerns like that. And you certainly don't want to buy any kind
of Chinese ev anytime soon, right, Well, I know, I sure,
don't you know, Garrett Yeat, all modern cars. I encourage all
your listeners go to Mozilla. They make the Firefox web brouss. So they
have a website called Privacy Not Included where they take a look at products and
evaluate their privacy and help you, as a consumer make decisions about what you
might or might not want to use. They recently did a big expose on
modern cars, and I think most people will be absolutely they'll have their minds
flown when they see what's your average car, including American cars are collecting.
Now when you throw in that, you're buying a car coming from China,
our largest adversary in the world, an adversary that our own government is constantly
warning about from a cybersecurity perspective and critical infrastructure perspective. You're going to buy
a car that's got cameras and microphones in it and you're going to drive around.
I mean it's a surveillance device. First off, there's a well documented
evidence where the Russians used web cameras and you to find targets. Imagine millions
of cars driving around, capturing data not only about you as the driver,
not only about your passengers and occupants, but also about every building everywhere you
go in the car and sending all that back to China. Now, how
could that possibly be good? And then, of course there's the possibility,
look at this crowd strike thing today, there's the possibility that there could be
some kind of backdoor in that software that would let them take control of the
car while you're driving and drive you into the local water plant or drive you
into the local power station. I know this probably sounds far fetched to people,
but this is where we're at with this stuff. Going back to my
earlier comment about the fragility of our society thanks to all of this wonderful technology,
Well, every time I talk to you, I'm more and more reassured
that our destruction is guaranteed. I appreciate that. Sadly, sadly it's coming,
all right, The end is denied. Dave Hatter, thank you very
much for a little tech talk on a Friday and some explanation of what happened
with the crowd strike outage overnight that you know that actually grounded planes and grounded
plans and hurt hurt people's ability to communicate with each other. Bob Harward is
another former Secret Service agent. We've got him on After News, plus a
guy who says they're trying to take away your right to drive at all.
It's time to fight, Fight, Fight, Gary Jeffin for Sloany on seven
hundred WLW. Is your propane supplier working hard to provide the best value for
your family? Box your guess works hard twenty four to seven three sixty five
to keep your family safe? And Ah, do you know what the gouge
is? Prepare yourself. You're about to find out. We have three Star
Admiral Bob Harward, a legendary Navy seal, former National Security Councilman member,
and author of the new book The Gouge, How to Be Smarter Than the
Situation You're In? And he joins us right now. Admiral Harward, how
are you this morning, Ray John? Thanks for having me, and it's
a beautiful day here in Milwaukee. Ah. Did you enjoy the RNC Oh,
my god, it was unbelievable, the excitement, the buzz, the
people. Yes, I did enjoy it. It was a lot of fun.
Well, you talk about the Gouge, the title of your book,
How to Be Smarter Than the Situation You're in? Do you think this is
a book that could be recommended reading for a Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle.
I think it's recommended reading for anyone because here's what it's about, and the
book traces the history of the term, what it means, and why it's
so relevant to any team, any organization. And yes, I think it's
important reading. And if you would ask military guys, specifically the Navy,
they would tell you, well, it's the inside information what you really need
to know. And that's a true statement. But it's so much more than
that. It's how do you build that community and the people and share that
experience based knowledge with your team, not only to accomplish the mission they had
a mission to do that day, but also how do you take care of
your people professionally and personally personally. So it's that culture and that system that
works that and so yes, for that situation or any of those, I
think it helps each of the individuals and the team accomplish the mission in the
ways it should be done. Do you think it was not the case that
day? After watching and listening to President Trump last night with his keynote speech,
his acceptance speech, do you feel like President Trump knows the gouge?
I sure, hope. So I think he's picking a team. I think
jd Vance the rest of the team is smart. Their knowledge they have experienced.
And that's the number one concern I've always had in government and defense.
Do you really have the based, best experienced based knowledge to make those right
decisions? And so I think President Grump got a lot of that from his
first term. I think he's learning a lot of it now and I think
this incident, this attempted assassination, puts them in a much different place.
I was cecil for forty years. I had a lot of guys shot guys
shot at and when that happened, it sure impacts you. You think differently
and impacts you. And I think we saw some of that on the stage
last night with President Trump. I think he's a different man for that experience.
Well, he's a different man for the experience of the first term.
As you mentioned, and that was one of my and other people's criticisms of
President Trump's first term is that he did not always have the right people to
achieve the mission. Would you agree with that? Well, I think they
were caught a little off foot in that they didn't haven't done with their typical
politicians. If you look, I served on the Bush administration, and a
lot of that team were teams who had worked on the previous Bush administration.
If you look at the Biden team, it is the team from the Obama
leginistrations in a lot of different seats. So I think in that first his
first administration, they weren't for pay for that and they had to put their
own team together on somewhat short notice. I think they're now in a position
now much more confident, and they're starting to look at that team, look
at what who are the best experienced people to put in those positions. So
I think it's going to be a much much more experienced, a much stronger
team, and they know the issues thereafter that they want to address and who
will be the best people to get after that. So yes, I think
it's a much a different position they're in today. We're talking to Admiral Bob
Harward, who's the author of the gouge how to be smarter than the situation
you're in? Boy, I tell you what the more that comes out about
last Saturday in Pennsylvania in the assassination attempt to Admiral Harward, I'm not sure
that they were smarter than the situation They were in at least some elements of
that, and hopefully a lot was learned from those obvious, now in hindsight
mistakes. You were asked to be President Trump's National security advisor? You declined?
Are you glad you declined? After you see what they did to General
Flynn? Well, I was just in a different place. The timing was
not right for me. And again I know Mike I served with them.
He found himself in a position he did not have the experience before. He
had not been in the political world, he had not had that experience or
knowledge, and he didn't have a team who had that experience to best advise
it. So very tragic for Mike, very unfortunate. And again, going
into those positions, you need to know you're going into a different environment.
He had been a very successful military officer, and so he was changing into
a whole different culture and ecosystem that I don't think he had the experience for,
and unfortun we had that tragic incident. Well, I hope that everybody
listening will give this, give this a run through. Here it's the gouge
g o u ge apostrophe. No, I mean, not a exclamation point.
How to be smarter than the situation you're in. And the author is
a three star Admiral Bob Harward. Thank you, sir, great success with
the book, and thanks for spending some time with us this morning. All
right, thank you much, friend, I really enjoyed it. You got
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the free iHeartRadio app. Who's gonna drive you home tonight? Is it gonna
be you? There's gonna be some robot and some centralized government location, somebody
automated in a satellite. There is a move of fut to get us out
of our cars. If that's not apparent to anybody who's been paying any attention
at all over the last few years with the push to ev vehicles, which
are not convenient, They're not they're not anything that looks like a good choice
for most people as far as freedom of movement and travel, autonomous cars,
self driving cars, all of that. What bad could come from that?
What could possibly go wrong? To talk about that and more, Jay Bieber
our guests for the next few minutes from the National Motorists Association. It's time
to fight back. They say, from automated enforcement to automated vehicles, how
driving freedoms are under thread, and what you can do about it. Jay
Bieber, good morning, how are you. Good morning, Pleasure to be
with you. Now, I've said this for a long time that the push,
especially this mandated evy vehicles by twenty thirty or whatever, they know it's
not practical. They know it's not cost efficient for most people. They know
that driving an electric vehicle is ultimately going to cost so much more, and
not just necessarily in the charging. But what it is is a move to
get us all in some kind of mass transit and take away our own individual
freedom of movement. Do you see it that way? Oh? Absolutely,
that's exactly what we're seeing going on out there, which is whether it's electric
vehicle mandate or any of these other things like automated enforcement or this thing they
called road diet, which is basically taking away car lanes perfectly good car lanes.
All of these things are a part and parcel of a movement to get
you out of your personal vehicle. They don't want you driving your car.
You have too much freedom if you do that. In their minds, you
are destroying the planet if you drive to the grocery store. So their push
is for you to be on a bus or a bicycle and not to drive
your personal automobile. And all of these policies, although they sound like they're
for other things, it's really all part and parcel of a movement for you
to reduce your automobile usage. And that's what this is about. Even the
Green New Deal push to get us away from combustion engines, it's all part
of the same package. It's all part of the same thing. It's all
part of this idea that human beings not have any impact on the planet,
that that human beings are bad, human activity is bad. And so you
you know, you must conform to their idea to minimize that. And you
know in their idea is you know, the biggest boogeyman for them right now
is the use of your personal automobile. Yeah, I mean, And the
thing is, we almost have a de facto surveillance state now. Almost anywhere
you go you could be captured. Your movement could be captured and logged pretty
much and tracked. But they want to take away any freedom at all of
movement. I'll tell you during COVID and the stupid lockdowns, Jay, my
wife and I had something that we called asphalt therapy. We would just we
would just get in our car with no particular destination, just to get out
of the house and drive. And some things were open, some things were
closed, but we weren't really going anywhere. We were just getting out to
enjoy that freedom of being out of the house and going where we wanted to
go where, you know, when we wanted to go. And if what
we're saying is true, and I believe it is, and the push is
on to get us out of our personal vehicles and so they can control all
of our movement to wherever we go when we go there, then I mean,
that is what they're trying to take. That's the freedom they're trying to
take away and it's just it's frightening as hell to me. Yes, it's
very concerning. Just think about what your life would be like, and we
had a taste of that during COVID, But just think about what your life
would be like if you could not get in your vehicle and go where you
wanted to go when you wanted to go to, I don't know, go
to the grocery store, go to take your kids a soccer practice, go
to your house of worship that you wanted to you that every time you wanted
to go and do something, and just make a choice in your life to
say other than you know, being in you on your property, which they
also want to limit. But if you did not have the choice and the
ability to go and do that freely and easily as you do now, your
life would be radically different. You are freedoms would be radically different. And
so a lot of people say, oh, you know, the car is
a symbol of freedom and prosperity. It's not just the symbol of that,
it is the driver of that. It is one of the greatest inventions that
has brought about personal freedom and prosperity that we've ever had invented, and I
don't think that's overstating what comes from having a personal autobile. If you think
about the poorest members of society, what lack they lack transportation, they lack
having a car, and everybody who is poorer in our society than the richer
people aspire to one day having enough money to get a car so they can
be freed up in terms of their personal choices, have better access to jobs,
have have better access to education, just have better access to everything that
everybody else has because they don't have a personal vehicle to get around. So
you want to get somebody out of poverty, get them a car well as
an American citizen according to the Constitution, from from what I understand, we
have a god given right to travel freely. And you know another thing they're
trying to and you know you can look at it from from those terms as
well. This is this is about yeah, absolutely, when I mean,
I'll tell a story when I when I was after I graduated college, I
went to visit the Soviet Union when it was still the Soviet Union, and
one of the things that I was shocked about was that you had to get
permission from the government to go places in the country. Most people obviously were
poor because of the socialist system there, and so not everybody had a car.
But even if you had a car, you had to get permission to
travel. That was shocking to me as an American, which I was used
to. My dad was a school teacher. We had an RV, we
had a motor home. We would travel the country in the summer when we
were all off from school, and it was shocking to me that the government
could restrict your ability to get around in the way that they were doing in
the Soviet Union. And now we're seeing a lot of the same sorts of
things, not in the same way, but the same kind of amount of
restriction is happening because they they want you out of your car. So although
you know the means is different, but it's a very similar effect. It's
always the curving of your right as slowly bit by bit, the slippery slope.
As we say, the NMA, how do people contact you? We're
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that's my time. Talk to you tomorrow morning on the Saturday morning edition.
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