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I don't want to be an American. Y Oh, they're not your granddad's

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Republican party anymore. Did you see
those fireworks last night? I did,

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and enjoyed it thoroughly. Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, Dana White, fight

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fight fight awesome, absolutely beyond the
pale. And then the president's speech.

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I mean, plenty of other great
speakers on the stage last night in Milwaukee,

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but they did save the best for
last in some ninety minutes, calmly,

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with loving regard for every American no
more mean tweet Donald quite impressive,

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I thought, Gary Jeff Ben for
Scott Sloan on this Friday, July nineteenth,

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twenty twenty four. And a great
lineup of guest today, Well it's

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I think it's great, which is
really ultimately all the matters. But first

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and foremost, I'm gonna talk to
an old friend of mine, we're radio

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friends. One day he is going
to have his private jet and he is

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gonna fly up and meet Chris to
two point zero and I are somewhere in

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hopefully take us away. H Forensic
psychologists based out of Austin, Texas.

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My friend doctor John Huber joining in
on this Friday morning on seven hundred WLW.

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Hello doctor Hubert, Hello, Good
morning, Gary, Jeff. How

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are you this morning? I just
I feel so invigorated. Maybe it's I

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was. I was shooting up the
Republican National Convention last night after work at

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the bar, and uh, it
was quite a good buzz, That's all

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I could. And it just felt
like everybody in that room, or maybe

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anybody who was possibly watching, was
catching that buzz. And I'm sure that

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drives Democrats absolutely crazy. Where are
you, by the way, I am

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in Austin, Texas, and I'm
sitting outside. You know, are we

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getting too much noise outside? Do
you no? We like the birds.

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We liked the accompaniment of the birds
with the conversation. So tell me what's

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the latest and greatest with doctor Hubert, And then I've got some questions for

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you. Well, you know,
I'm just kind of excited watching everything happen.

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Like you said, you know,
we got the RNC and then you

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know, a short time after that, we're going to have the DNC,

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and everybody's watching, you know,
because our president, our sitting president,

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now has his uh COVID. You
know, he said if he got sick,

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he may he may be withdrawing,
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know, everything's still up in the
air. What what our presidential tomorrow?

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Tomorrow, tomorrow or Sunday. What's
your pick? We're taking lots, Sunday,

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Sunday, Sunday, Yeah, Sunday, All right, very good.

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Well what's your pick? What did
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I picked last week, so I'm
already out of it. I picked last

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week? Right, Well, yeah, go ahead. Well, you know

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I was going to say, you
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even next week sometimes doesn't mean he
was already gone last week. Oh.

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I think it's been several several months
since since the beginning of weekend at Bernie's,

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Washington, d C. Style,
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to look, you know, as
a psychologist, though I've never assessed him,

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and all I can do is look
at the same behavior everybody else looks

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at. Yes, you best best
believe your eyes because they ain't lying,

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nor your ears. I think you're
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all he seems to have left now
is regurgitation of the talking points that they

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told him to use forty years ago. I just watched a speech somebody sent

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me of Joe Biden in nineteen eighty
five railing railing against the Reagan administration for

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being racist, and he was,
he was panderin Joe back then, and

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nothing really has changed. But that's
all his muscle memory will allow him to

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just go back. And you know
how famous our president is for using somebody

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else's work calling it his own pledgerism, you know, And I kicked students

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out of university for pledgarizing much less
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elevated him to president. So so
it's a mixed up world. So,

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doctor Huber, let me ask you
about President Trump, and did you did

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you see or catch any of the
speech last night? I you know,

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I fell asleep, I'll be honest
with you, sitting there in the living

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room, and I just, you
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long couple of weeks. And I've
got, you know, a busy

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week coming up, and just doing
lots of prep because I'm I'm actually in

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court next week, and I'm a
forensic psychologist, so going over notes and

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stuff like that, and no doubt, sometimes it just catches up with you.

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So well, here here's my what
I gleaned from it was that he

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was more measured and more careful and
softer than I had seen him. And

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somebody else said they can many people
mention that his eyes actually look different.

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So talk about what happened to the
president last Saturday in Pennsylvania and how that

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I believe. I believe it was
God, and I believe that he has

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been changed by this event. I
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by an event like that. If
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you're just a total zombie sociopath.
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either one of those. But tell
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an event like that, Because you
deal with people who are suffering from PTSD

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and have traumatic events occur that mark
their life, that marked their life for

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the rest of their life, tell
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that, that near death experience can
change a person and may have changed Donald

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Trump. It does change you.
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the fact is he's been running around
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you know, this adolescent kind of
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know, he's untouchable, He's going
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up to him and then literally he
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there's a lot of stuff going on, and I think that Donald Trump,

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of of you know, three months
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just railed on everything come out of
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I think he's looking at the fact
that, hey, you know, he's

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not going to live forever, and
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person or some some situation out there, even even a plane crash, you

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know, if he has a mechanical
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there's a lot of things, and
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looking at that fact, and I
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off his corners. And it doesn't
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but maybe he's just gonna be a
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they kind that gets through all this
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that could be a lot of different
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be on a little bit of anxiety
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be upset or dismayed if he isn't, because that was very traumatic and he

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he unfortunately has a job to do
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got to take that next step.
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of our musicians or TV personalities or
movie stars anything like that, they have

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some kind of situation like that,
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going to have something, you know, really probably light and nothing really intense,

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but something just kind of take the
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come across, uh with that anger
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response when you come across with that
anger like that. Yeah, yeah,

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And you've seen and we've seen,
we've seen the anger in Joe Biden almost

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the man. The man is deathly
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his mind. I'm convinced that he
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digging in his heels so hard to
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power, because he knows this is
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angry outbursts that we've we've seen,
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earlier in the week. Uh oh
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edited and you still saw the anger, oh yeah. So uh So the

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other thing, the other side of
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a psychologist, is that a traumatic
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also work the other way, It
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I think it says a lot about
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Trump that even in that moment,
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he was okay, and you know, kind of like the athlete giving the

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thumbs up and they're moving them off
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the locker room. But it was
the same thing with the secret Now a

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lot of people are saying, and
I've got two Secret Service agents on a

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little bit later on the program this
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conjunctured that they never should have let
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a camera can see you, then
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But he just popped up like toast
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telling people that he was okay and
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fight, fight, And I I
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happen with a different demeanor, a
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they might have completely crumbled. True, absolutely, absolutely, and I think

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I think there's probably a lot of
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he thinks, oh crap, I
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And I say that with I say
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I am alive. Well, and
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needed to change his output when he
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I don't know, because because when
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that was that close. I mean, I it's easy to lose control.

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It's easy to lose control. And
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wasn't very hungry for a while,
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it was like when that fight or
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to fight. That's at adrenaline rush
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And then once you settle in,
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said, well, we've got to
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And uh, you know that that's
by the time he got that bandage

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on his ear, and uh,
you know it, you know, Luke

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Skywalker be darned, you know he
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You got the whole nation on mainstream
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I'm longer, you know, since
since he was elected in sixteen, uh

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basically saying to go after him,
physically attack him, to to take him

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down whatever means possible. You know, whether it's Pelosi, you know,

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going out and you gather around all
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show show them a threat. Essentially, Maxine Waters is doing that same thing.

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And he's lived through all of this
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been attacked in the courtroom, and
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even know what he was convicted for. There were thirty four charges that are

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aligned with one one piece of documents, you know, and they tried to

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make thirty four different charges against him. And it only holds through if the

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first charge that they put it to
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even established what that first charge is. We have no idea. So we

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know it's politics. It's politics.
It's politics. You know, they appointed

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somebody illegally. That person just got
taken out of the Florida stuff, and

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we know those dominoes are starting to
fall in Trump's direction. So he had

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a lot of motivation going into this, going into the iron or the yeah,

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the RONC and that you know,
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hurdle and I'm not going to call
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They lobbed that bullet at him.
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there, I cannot believe. I
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incompetent. Okay, as someone who
who started teaching his kids about hunting and

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fishing and and shot placement and you
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the deer, for whatever you're doing. You know that that place, I

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can't believe there wasn't an officer sitting
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Yeah, those are questions we are
going to definitely get into with our former

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secret Service agents doctors. John Hubert, thank you so much for checking out.

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I'm sorry if I rambled this morning. It's just a whole lot of

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stuff going on, a whole lot
of stuff going on. Man, I

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get it what I mean. I
don't have you on so I can ask

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you a question. You go,
No, I want you to. I

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want you to ramble, my friend, I want you. Thank you so

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much. Thank You're welcome and I
will talk to you soon. There's no

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doubt about that. Leslie Corbi is
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is. Just stick around on seven
hundred WLW. Hello and welcome back to

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that thing between the commercial stop sets
called the show seven hundred WLW. Gary

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Jeff Walker in for Scott Sloan Today
and our next guest is an author,

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a poet, and an attorney well
two out of three eight bad. She's

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also likes to comment socially and politically
and into theology. She has an interesting

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classical literature which will probably take her
to bring up because I probably won't.

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And she also plays a piano.
She is the author of the book Silent

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Suffering Poems of Pain and Purpose,
and is our guest now, Leslie Korby,

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Good morning, Corbi, Good morning. So you're there in the beautiful

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state of Utah. Yes, and
so you're married. And now what struck

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me is the CrossFit, the hiking
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Utah. The playing piano. What
do you have any favorite selections? Leslie

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oh Man playing piano. So I
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music. You know as a kid, and then always wanted to learn more

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but got distracted doing things like going
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enjoy, not, by by the
way, just play intermediately. I'm not,

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by any stretch of the imagination,
a skilled pianist, but I do

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really enjoy playing like I guess,
Walt Chopin's walton a minor, some Beethoven,

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some easy Mozart and easy Chopin.
By the way, showmaking really complicated

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well beyond my the k Tel The
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good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really enjoy classical music for sure.

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Occasionally I play some you know,
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like that, but primarily classical.
Cool. Well, all right, now

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that now that the meeting stuff's out
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we were going to talk about,
not only your book, your book of

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poems. Now, what made you
decide to have a collection of poems together?

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Too? Uh? To kind of
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about why it was important to do
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made you decide to do this?
Sure, so I I've thought for some

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time that the creative world in general
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yeah and whack some. It lacks
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speak, becomes with different viewpoints,
and I think that that's not good for

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culture. So I think libertarian and
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sort of intent I don't know,
for whatever reasons, seem to have abandoned

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the realm of culture. So I
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left largely because it seems as if
people of a different persuasion self abandoned certain

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areas. So as far as it
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was inspired to write that collection both
because I think that realm of culture has

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been abandoned to a very homogeneous crowd, and then also because I think that

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realm, partially due to that abandonment, has become a very void of analytic

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griggor so we think of right brain
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about logic or you care about emotion, and so part of the purpose of

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the collection is to synthesize those two
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much more more holistic than we give
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no one's really full emotion or full
logic. Right, you end up being

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this blend of both. And it's
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to think of yourself as either fully
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Right. Either either extreme, I
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And I wanted to have a perspective
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showed how ideas of truth and enduring
ideas of truth and goodness require that we

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engage with both aspects of who we
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calling basically that it was you know, you have the abilities to do this

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and get involved inject that into the
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think that's wonderful. Everybody needs a
calling in their line. I'm still looking

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for mine, but one thing is
for one thing is for sure. President

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Trump has found his calling and and
he is he is following that and those

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those you know, those better angel
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when after everything that he has been
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side, he is not just surviving
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And it's wonderful for me to see
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of the ideas. Not necessarily a
fan of the man, but I'm a

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fan of the less government in your
life, less regulation, less taxation,

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utilizing our natural resources instead of listening
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claiming that they are science. And
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you made a good point, and
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is that the left has finally got
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kicked off their high horse, and
they don't have the moral high ground anymore,

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demeaning President Trump and his rhetoric or
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last Saturday. Correct, Yes,
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that the messaging that Democrats and the
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to push for decades of being you
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the people who are empathy and tolerance
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seeing an end of those days.
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I mean, as historic as the
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Roman politics, I think this is
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as well, because it's becoming very
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the left of center voices have become
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how they treat those that they perceive
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there there's somehow beyond prejudice or beyond
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things differently. I just don't know
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don't see how that's palpable to the
public calling the assassination attempt. All you

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have to do is and they of
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his language and the memes and the
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you have a Maxine Waters talking about
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they don't deserve to be left safe
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and they're here to destroy America and
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and all those other things, and
all those shrill voices for years, those

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hypocritical, shrill voices. They are
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the finger at their adversary when they
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one of the basic tenets of rules
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at it for decades upon decades,
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another inspiration behind writing the poetry was
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idea of we critique the past,
and we've done this for so long.

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We critique ideas of the past,
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a dominant ideology or a dominant belief
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comes at a cost. The problem
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never counted the cost of what some
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you know, they're kind of difficult, sort of intentionally difficult to define,

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but we don't really critique what they
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embraces these set of values, right, And I think we're reaching a moment

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where that critique can occur because the
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that great marginalization is coming to an
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dominant progressive dogmas are directly influencing culture
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I'm glad this is coming to an
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we have as a culture just we're
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to see any real shared values much
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can cause a lot of friction and
high polarization. And so when people are

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disaffected, you know, on either
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conflict. Do you think do you
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and his insistence that their party is
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of everyone, do you think it's
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Republicans are bought into that and can
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platform and their party this time around? And President Trump, I certainly hope.

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critical moment, and honestly a dangerous
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unknowns we've had. I mean,
it's hard to believe that it was nine

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years ago at the Escalator ride was
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been just so much conflict, especially
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right, think of how information moves
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constantly connected to their devices and constantly
connected to frankly a lot of negativity that's

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often freely vented online, and so
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think that if there is a party
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difficult to argue that at this point
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the platform changes at the RNC this
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able to take and I hope that
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that that is more inclusive. But
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what I what I've been writing about, which is that the notion that the

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Democratic Party and the leftist side of
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are the inclusive, tolerant party.
I just think those days are coming to

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an end. I'm sure that they'll
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lines for some time, but as
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the public, I don't think it's
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anymore people are. People are starting
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their sayings is the way they've been
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by both. Over all these years, Leslie and everything, everything's becoming more

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I want to say, transparent without
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becoming much more transparent, and people
are seeing the truth and the truth shall

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set you free. Leslie CORBLI thank
you so much. The book once Again

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is Silent Suffering Poems of pain and
purpose, and it's out now right.

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Yes, it is available through all
major book retailers on Amazon, and yeah,

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readily accessible. So I'd love for
people to grab a copy. And

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if you're interested in the combination of
philosophy, history and theology to critique the

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kind of more leftist side, it's
certainly interesting. It sounds interesting to me.

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Maybe next time we can is playing
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Maybe you know, I'll do anything. I'm a pretty open person, all

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right, Leslie Corby, thank you
so much for your time today. Ken

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Valentine, a former Secret Service agent
up after the News at ten Gary jeffen

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about personal preference. Do you want
to be an American? I just learned

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something during the news listening. Jonathan
Carl of ABC News is not a journalist,

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no more of a journalist than I
am. I am not a journalist.

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I'm Gary Jeff Walker in for Scott
Sloan. On this Friday, July

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nineteenth, twenty twenty four, the
Republican National Convention concludes last night with President

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Trump, the nominee, taking the
stage for the last ninety minutes of the

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party in Milwaukee. Fantastic speech.
The fact that he was even standing there

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giving the speech is a combination of
God's grace. So that's first and foremost,

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and as far as the earthly realm, the Secret Service agents who were

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there to shield the president after the
fact. The more we learn about what

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happened before the assassination attempt last Saturday
in Pennsylvania, the more questions come up.

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The more we know, the more
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it'd be a good idea to talk
to somebody who has experience behind the behind

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the sunglasses with that thing in their
ear, the dark suits, and the

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protection of a president as their one
job. And for that we have Ken

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Valentine, he protected three sitting US
presidents as a secret Service agent, has

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written a book called Cheating Death,
Three time presidential Secret Service Agent Lives to

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tell you how for that and much
more in the ongoing investigation and the Secret

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Services obligation to answer questions, Ken
Valentine, Good morning, Ken, how

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are you? Good morning, sir. I'm doing fine. I'm glad to

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be with you. We're glad to
have you. So this new book,

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let's get this out of the way
that these are just I've not read it.

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These are stories of you on your
job as a Secret Service agent protecting

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the president. Correct, yes,
sir. The goal of the book was

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to give my kids a glimpse at
what their dad did when he was traveling

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the world for twenty four years and
protecting presidents. Really life advice about faith,

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about identity and decision making, protecting
yourself, guarding your heart, about

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leadership, and about hardship and friendship. But I combined, you know,

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the the dad advice with the stories
that they'd never heard, because I just

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wasn't one of those guys who came
home telling stories and frankly not not great

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when they put you on the spot
to tell a story. But but I

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was able to, you know,
be intentional about sitting down and writing some

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stories that that enhanced the truths that
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especially with a from a from a
Christian worldview that I have. That's

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that was what I was trying to
do. At the timeliness is kind of

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weird, especially with the with the
title cheating death. But but what I

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was trying to do there was you
know, one thing is we That's a

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term that we used on the prison's
detail while I was there to kind of,

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you know, chip at each other
about the importance of our mission,

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but a good reminder of what's going
to happen if we don't do our job.

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That there are way too many people
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and if we don't do our job, then death is going to have

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its way. And our job is
to cheat death. And at the same

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time, I believe that through faith
in Jesus Christ, that that's what happens

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when you die, is you cheat
death because it doesn't get to hold you

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and keep you you get life eternal
through him, So faith a major part

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of your life and your message in
this Ken Valentine. And do you think

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this has only strengthened whatever faith Donald
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getting when I'm gleaning from the change
in demeanor and just the change in the

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overall, overall outlook of the President
as he got through this week at the

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convention and then last night in the
speech. But the acknowledgment of the grace

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of Almighty God on a national stage
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this has emboldened the faith of many
people. Well, I agree, and

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and I think you clearly saw the
hand of God sparing him. I don't

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have any doubt about that. I
think God's in charge, He's sovereign,

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and and he had his way.
Obviously he extended the life of Donald Trump.

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And and uh if if if President
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that appreciate that, then I don't
know who would be. I think,

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you know, he certainly did a
great job last night of laying that out

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of thanking the Secret Service for their
response. But I also want to point

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out that Dana White read a text
message from from the President talking about how

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you know what the President was thanking
him for taking time out of his vacation

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to come and and be with them. And I tell you that that text

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message, that transparency and that graciousness
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that that I know that have served
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Lady Malaia Trump, have said about
them that they are behind the scenes,

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they are completely gracious, they are
humble, they are grateful for everything that's

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being done for them, and they
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life easier for the people that whose
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and whose lives are on hold with
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So he he's very genuine. I
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and so I'm I'm thankful for that. For from your time as a Secret

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Service agent, mister Valentine, just
without getting into personalities, but were the

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presidents that you served under, were
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personas just in general in general?
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of a mixed bag. I can
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and I was with him for a
long time, his his demeanor and his

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personality. When the camera was on
and the camera was off, you you

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wouldn't know. I mean, there
was no difference. What you saw is

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what you got. And he didn't
care if the camera was on or if

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the camera was off. And and
so I you know, I could.

412
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I always appreciate that we loved him, and I think it was mutual,

413
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and so we you kind of appreciate
that, but that there there is certainly

414
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a desire to you know, to
to to perform for the camera. But

415
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I just didn't see a difference between
him or with President Trump. Regardless of

416
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the situation. Genuine bleeds through and
that's what you're seeing. Well, I

417
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:09.039
mean, uh so, who are
the three presidents you served under? President

418
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Bill Clinton, President George W.
Bush and President Obama? Okay, all

419
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:23.840
right, the Obama's any any thoughts? Well, I will say this,

420
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:31.360
they were very gracious to us.
I you know, I enjoyed five years

421
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of my life serving on his detail, both his campaign detail, and then

422
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went in as a supervisor as he
went in as president. We certainly weren't

423
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friends. He never asked my opinion
on a single issue, which I would

424
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have been glad to give him.
But and the only shot he ever took

425
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.199
it me was to say that I
had big years, which you know,

426
00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.280
I'm looking at him looking at me, and that I can't believe that,

427
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of all people, you're going to
take a shot in my ears those satellite

428
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dishes on the side of his head. Oh so uh so, Ken Valentine,

429
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Let's get to last Saturday, and
with your experience what you saw as

430
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:24.920
possible failures by Secret Service, what
you saw that ask you questions of why

431
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:31.880
did this happen this way? And
what was allowed to happen, and the

432
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:39.960
infiltration of DEI when it comes to
hiring and maintaining a career in a government

433
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office, and the dangers of it
in any of that on the table for

434
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:52.280
you. Sure you know the the
overwhelming notion here is, and I've said

435
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:58.840
this publicly already, is it's hard
not to use the word failure when the

436
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person that you've been giving in the
mission, the privilege and the responsibility of

437
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:07.079
protecting leaves the stage bleeding from a
gunshot won't. So, so that's out

438
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.920
there. I don't shy away from
that. You've got to use the word

439
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:15.840
failure. And when your agency is
given that mission and that responsibility. You

440
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:21.639
have to step up and own that, and that should have been owned before

441
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.960
he even got to the hospital.
That that this is secret service one oh

442
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.199
one. It's our mission, it's
our responsibility. You can delegate it to

443
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.320
anyone and everyone you want, but
at the end of the day, if

444
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.360
it doesn't go well, you you
own that. And and that's that's hard

445
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:42.559
for me to say, but it's
in one sense, but it's it's the

446
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.960
truth. So you know, we
we own that. We're going to have

447
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.679
to account for that. The investigation
has to play out to show why prevention

448
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.320
didn't work. And so I would
break it down along those lines. We

449
00:38:53.440 --> 00:39:00.400
have a soup sandwich in the way
of prevention going on there, and I

450
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:05.199
don't know what broke down, and
I don't know why, but unacceptable in

451
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.440
prevention of what happened. And then
on the other hand, you have the

452
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:15.320
reaction, which frankly should never happen. We trained for it, we prepare

453
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:19.400
for it. That's where you know
you have to do that. And what

454
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.960
you saw was a textbook reaction,
both from President Trump's detail, who jumped

455
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.440
up on that stage while bullets were
still in the air. They did not

456
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.599
think about that they just reacted,
which is what the training is supposed to

457
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.199
do. It's supposed to train out
your thoughts and build that muscle memory to

458
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do what's got to be done.
And I give them, I give them

459
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.320
great credit. They could have been
a little slower and I'd still be giving

460
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:46.480
them props. But it was fast. I mean they got up on that

461
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:52.760
stage and put him down, got
him under cover on that stage, which

462
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is which is exactly what that's designed
to do. And then they affected an

463
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.760
evacuation and that those are the two
missions that team. It's to cover and

464
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:08.440
evacuate the snipers on the roof Heroic. I'm pretty sure that's the first time

465
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one of our Secret Service counter sniper
technicians has ever pulled the trigger on another

466
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:21.079
human being in our history. So
made a perfect shot under stress as shots

467
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were being fired. Why that shot
wasn't taken sooner is part of the mess

468
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on our hands right now to understand. And I take nothing away from the

469
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:36.480
snipers because they are some of the
most incredible people I've ever had the pleasure

470
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:40.360
of working with. So I'm going
to give them the benefit of uncertainty right

471
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:46.719
now about why the shot wasn't taken
sooner and assume, at least for me

472
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:52.679
in my experience, that there was
some reason why they didn't have the confidence

473
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:57.679
to take that shot. And I
just don't know what that was. Those

474
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guys, yeah, go ahead.
I'm sorry. Were you ever in a

475
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:08.480
situation, in an outdoor situation or
any time as you were engaged in protecting

476
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:15.719
your protectee, the president. Were
you ever in a situation where the Secret

477
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:22.000
Service limited the perimeter to one hundred
and thirty yards? I mean, and

478
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that was the excuse that Kim Cheatle
gave, is that the local police were

479
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:32.039
handling the outer perimeter. We were
just responsible. But yes, the buck

480
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stops here. The mixed messaging there
doesn't work for me or a lot of

481
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.280
other people. And many in Congress
are asking the director to step down,

482
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And I mean, do you think
that that's warranted? And I'm just looking

483
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:53.000
at the video again of this kid
up on the roof of supposedly a staging

484
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:59.639
area building that the police were using
inside. And then the excuse of the

485
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:04.960
slow roof and that's why there wasn't
a sniper on that root by Cheetel.

486
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.719
Anything to say about any of that, well, I don't know who's giving

487
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:15.079
her advice right now, but I
think she needs to to to let them

488
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:22.519
go because the messaging has been pretty
dismal. You know, the mixed messaging

489
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is so off putting for for the
agents, for our partners the Secret Service.

490
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.719
You know, one of the one
of the joys of being a Secret

491
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.719
Service agent is and I and I
went to seventy four countries all around the

492
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.159
world, nearly avers state in the
Union. And when we go into a

493
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town, whether it's Butler, pa
Or Los Angeles, or you know,

494
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somewhere in Tennessee like where I am
right now, and say, hey,

495
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.679
the President's coming. Uh, the
first thing we do when we hit the

496
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:59.480
ground is we go seek out federals
or not federal, but state and local

497
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:05.800
law enforcement partners to collaborate with.
Because the Secret Service is so tiny that

498
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.679
there's I mean, we know ahead
of time, and I think this is

499
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a strength. We know ahead of
time we can't do this mission on our

500
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own. So we go looking for
partnerships and we enjoy the favor of tremendous

501
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:22.519
law enforcement partnership. And you know, there's other federal agencies that roll into

502
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.480
town and say we're we're large,
and we're in charge, and you guys,

503
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.039
get out of the way, and
we've got this. And the Secret

504
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.159
Service has never done that. That
that's not my experience. And so the

505
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:37.400
you know, when when we build
a security plan the architecture of an individual

506
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.119
event, and they're all they're all
unique, they all take a special look.

507
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.679
But you're, you know, the
the perimeters are critical. The perimeter

508
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:53.559
demarketates clean from unclean. And so
inside the perimeter, everyone has been through

509
00:43:54.320 --> 00:44:00.400
a magnetometer to to you know,
ensure that they have nothing of danger toward

510
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.920
our protectee. The bomb sniffing dogs
and you name it, they go through

511
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.880
it. It's you've been through it. It's it's it's thorough. But maybe

512
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more even more important is the buffer. And so right outside that that is

513
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:20.039
the area the sure that was the
area that was not secured sufficiently. Obviously

514
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.599
in Pennsylvania, the book is Cheating
Death. Three time presidential Secret Service agent

515
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:28.119
lives to tell you how, and
he's told us how. Ken Valentine,

516
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.280
thank you so much. I'm sorry
our time is done for today, but

517
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God bless you my pleasure. Thanks
for having me. You got it.

518
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We continue on seven hundred WLW business
Owners and Big Truck enthusiasts alike. Visit

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520
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be one man. Jeez, don't
need Billy Joe Armstrong to tell me.

521
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Gary Jeff Walker, another three named
guy could be a could be an assassin.

522
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They all have three names in for
Scott's loan on seven hunder WLW Friday

523
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:07.599
morning, July nineteenth, twenty twenty
and Dave had Or and I had kind

524
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:14.559
of like President Trump. We had
a segment all ready to go, and

525
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:20.199
then CrowdStrike happened overnight. You may
have been cognizant of the news. You

526
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:30.960
may be cognizant of what happened with
this outage from something called CrowdStrike. You

527
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.000
may have been infected. You may
not have been able to take off from

528
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.360
the airport. You may have had
surgery delayed, You may have had Internet

529
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:46.480
outages of your own, of any
number of things, all due to somebody

530
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:57.159
messed up at one of the large
Internet giants named CrowdStrike. To talk about

531
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.840
that, we had to rip up
the other speech and we've written a whole

532
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.800
news speech for this segment with Dave
Hatter and he's here now so Dave,

533
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.400
what do you know, when did
you know it? And how did this

534
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:14.280
happen and what's going on now?
I do not recall Gary jes No,

535
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.719
thanks for having me on as always. Yeah, this has been a wild

536
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.719
day. So I woke up this
morning and immediately saw the news that there

537
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.480
was some kind of widespread Microsoft outage. Was kind of how it was originally

538
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:31.400
reported, but this is not a
Microsoft outage. CrowdStrike in the most simpler

539
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:35.920
terms, makes antivirus software a little
more complicated than that, But most people

540
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.840
understand anti virus, think Norton or
McAfee, you know, well known brand

541
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:43.199
names. Kind of in the consumer
space. This is sort of high end,

542
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.519
enterprise grade anti virus software. So
if you have, you know,

543
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:51.239
a low risk tolerance, a lot
of cybersecurity compliance issues, or you're just

544
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:55.280
a company that really understands how a
product like this can help you, you

545
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:59.480
know you're going to buy it.
They have competitors like Sentinel One, but

546
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.320
they're kind in the top tier of
this, and they put out an update

547
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:07.000
for their antivirus software last night,
which apparently then caused Windows computers. They

548
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:12.719
make antivirus products for Mac and Linux
too. It only impacts Windows computers,

549
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:17.360
but when the computer reboots, it
won't restart it. Basically, in nerds

550
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:22.079
speak, bricks, you get the
blue screen to death and you can't get

551
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:24.159
out of that, which is where
the real problem comes in because since the

552
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:29.159
machine won't boot, a nerd like
me can't remote into it to restart it,

553
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.159
and that means someone has to physically
go to each computer to address this

554
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.679
problem. So now imagine a company
like Kroger or PNG or Delta tens of

555
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:45.199
thousands, hundreds of thousands of desktop
machines and impossibly servers that won't start because

556
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.119
it's been bricked by CrowdStrike, and
you start to see the scope of this

557
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.599
thing, and that's why you're seeing
so many industries impacted. This is one

558
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:58.440
of the most well known and well
respected, at least until today antivirus packages

559
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.719
out there, and it's caused this. Yeah, until today. They're having

560
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:06.039
a really bad day, as are
most people in the business that use crowdifright.

561
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.800
Thank god, we don't use it. So while it's been crazy for

562
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:14.760
me today, I am not impacted
by the outage. Well all of these

563
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:19.800
all these airlines being down, I
mean, that's the crazy thing. And

564
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:28.800
supposedly Children's Hospital. Uh, they
were affected by this, and if you

565
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.840
had surgery scheduled, they said,
show up for your appointed time, but

566
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.880
there's no guarantee you're going to get
in because they are just way behind.

567
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:46.320
Doesn't this again emphasize how we limit
ourselves by signing up for all this stuff

568
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:52.920
online that that we don't have,
you know, backups, analog backups of

569
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:58.719
all these systems. I mean,
it shows how vulnerable, vulnerable, the

570
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:04.800
whole entire society is due to technology. Technology was supposed to make everything simpler,

571
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:09.000
and yet I'm going to agree with
the Gary Jeff, You're exactly right.

572
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:15.639
The word I like to use is
fragile. The whole incentive around all

573
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:16.880
of this is wrong, and that's
why we're in the mess we're in.

574
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:22.079
Most of these companies are much more
confirmed about speed to market and market share

575
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.800
and revenue than they are about building
software that is robust and resilient and secure.

576
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.599
I'll tell you SISS, a cybersecurity
infrastructure security agency, has been pushing

577
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:36.320
real hard for about a year something
called secure by Design. I'm a big

578
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.960
fan of this because the intent is
to force software companies through public pressure.

579
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.360
Right now, about one hundred companies
have signed up to this, people like

580
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:49.119
Microsoft, to force them to focus
on building software that is robust and secure

581
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.360
versus I just want to sellment to
stuff and hope it all works out for

582
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.880
all of us who are now so
dependent up on this stuff. To your

583
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:59.599
point, and you know, here's
my point, there is no indication at

584
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.239
this point this is any kind of
cyber attack. I want to come back

585
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:06.800
to that. Though. It appears
that this was just bad software. There

586
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.360
was a bug in the software.
Apparently it was not tested thoroughly enough or

587
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:13.559
correctly in some way, and it
rolled out and it has now caused this

588
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.960
giant outage. Think about this garage, Jeff. Let's say you had ten

589
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.800
thousand computers in your organization, and
let's say it took one minute per to

590
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:22.840
fix this. Now it's going to
take more than that because you've got to

591
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.039
go to each one physically ten thousand
minutes, ten thousand minutes of downtime.

592
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.719
What is that going to cost you
as an organization? So you've got downtime

593
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:36.119
cost you got remediation costs, you
got lost business costs. And again,

594
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.039
this is all from what appears to
be simply a bug. Most of your

595
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:44.360
listeners may recall the solar wind tack, which where where bad guys actually broke

596
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:46.760
in the solar winds. The company
that makes software other companies use kind of

597
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:51.079
like this, and they planted a
backdoor in it, which then rolled out

598
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:55.360
to their customers. Imagine if this
were like a Chinese cyber attack on Croudstrike

599
00:50:55.480 --> 00:51:00.079
and they put a bomb in there
that couldn't be fixed and purposely destroy the

600
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:04.239
and brickham well. Better yet,
imagine if they could break into Microsoft and

601
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:08.440
instead of only CrowdStrike based computers down, every Windows in the computer in the

602
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:13.280
world was down. So that's what
I mean by fragile. You hit it.

603
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:19.159
We've now were entirely dependent on software
throughout our entire society, and now

604
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.159
we've seen the instance. We've just
got a little taste of what could come.

605
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.519
And this just appears to be a
mistake, not an actual malicious event.

606
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:29.480
We'll see over time how it plays
out. But just still on that

607
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:31.079
for a second. And that's why
I like the word fragile. We are

608
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:37.639
in a very fragile situation thanks to
all of this technology. Are you good?

609
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.000
A couple of other things that I
wanted to cover with you while I've

610
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.000
got you. The rest of the
world claimer, the rest of the media

611
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:49.800
world clamoring to talk to Dave Hatter
because of the crowd strikeoutage like me.

612
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.559
But you're also the mayor of Fort
Right, and you recently did something that

613
00:51:54.599 --> 00:52:00.719
you suggest all communities do now,
and that is by switching you or city's

614
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:06.000
domain, and give me the reasons
why. Yeah. So, Actually it's

615
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:09.159
a good segue because this involves it
as well. At some point in the

616
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.320
last few years, sizz it took
over the top level domain dot gov.

617
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.840
Top level domain is fancy nerds speak
for like dot com, dot net,

618
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:20.119
dot org, the last part you
see on the domain name and an email

619
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.760
address or a website, And by
taking that over, they've made it possible

620
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:29.480
to force you to go through a
process to use that dot gov domain.

621
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:31.320
In the old days, you know, it was easy to dis register domain,

622
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:36.880
set up fake email, set up
fake website, and really there was

623
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.440
very little security around it. Now, if you want to use dot gov,

624
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:43.039
you have to go through a formal
process, still out a bunch of

625
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.000
forms and basically prove who you are. So it creates some assurance and there's

626
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:50.360
some additional controls in the background.
Around that. It's kind of nerdy.

627
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.599
I won't get into that, but
it's more than just that piece. But

628
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:58.039
the idea here is if every government
agency would switch to something that engine dot

629
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.960
gov and then the public understood if
you get an email address from Fort Right,

630
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:05.559
or if you get an email from
the city of Fort Right and it

631
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:08.400
doesn't end the dot gov, it
can't be legitimate. There's no question about

632
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.000
it. It can't be legitimate.
And because hackers can't register these domains on

633
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:17.519
their own, it helps raise the
security posture of your organization. Again,

634
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.400
it requires some education because our old
dot com addresses still work for the time

635
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:28.159
being, but ideally, over time
we'll wean ourselves off of that entirely.

636
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.440
And then again any kind of dealings
with the city of Fort Right and hopefully

637
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:34.400
every government which is want glad you
let me talk about this. I would

638
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.280
like to see your listeners go out
and pressure their local governments to make the

639
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:43.400
switch. The DOCTV domain is free, costs you nothing to get it.

640
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.440
Now, you might have some labor
costs to make the switches in your system

641
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.559
to facilitate this. It took it
was very easy for us to do this.

642
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.320
So again I'm trying to get the
word out why this is a good

643
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:59.360
thing and why every local government should
do this, because you know, again,

644
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:01.039
as we seen to date, we're
so dependent on this stuff now and

645
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:07.639
any steps you can take to make
yourself more secure and protect your residence is

646
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:12.880
a good thing. Also, Dave
Patter, I see the story where Google

647
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:19.400
was forced to destroy five billion dollars
worth of user data that they illegally collected

648
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:24.199
in something called incognito mode. A
quick explanation of that would be that would

649
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:30.159
be good. Yeah, this is
very frustrating for me. If you use

650
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:34.079
the Google Chrome browser, it has
this incognito mode, as do other browsers,

651
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.159
and the theory is that when you're
in incognito mode, they're not collecting

652
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:39.840
data about you. That's how they
sell it, and then it gives you

653
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:45.280
some additional privacy assurances. So what
we found from this court case, where

654
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:50.440
as you mentioned, they are required
to bleat a bunch of stuff. People

655
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:54.480
can go see the particulars on it
is interesting is that basically, yes,

656
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:59.280
they're not storing data on your local
computer, but it doesn't stop them from

657
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.039
storing whatever being sent to their servers. And it kind of fits into what

658
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:06.280
I would describe as privacy washing.
They say one thing and give you this

659
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:10.760
idea that somehow they're protecting your privacy
when a natuality, they really aren't.

660
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:15.440
And that's often a common theme for
these large technology companies that operate off the

661
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.960
surveillance capitalism model, which is wh
when you look at a company like Google

662
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.760
or Meta, they're not really selling
you any kind of product. You are

663
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:25.840
their product. It's your data,
right, they are monetizing your data.

664
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:31.320
So again, as you know,
I'm not a fan of things from Google,

665
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:36.719
I always encourage people to try to
find more privacy friendly options. Gmail

666
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.320
is just as bad. But if
you're using Chrome and you think that when

667
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:44.599
you're in incognito mode you're protecting your
privacy by not sharing data with Google,

668
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:49.199
that court case shows that's clearing out
the case. So yeah, that's what

669
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:52.000
that's all about. And I would
recommend people switched to a privacy friendly browser

670
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:57.920
like Firefox or Brave. It'll work
just as well and you will have a

671
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:01.400
lot less concerns like that. And
you certainly don't want to buy any kind

672
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:07.320
of Chinese ev anytime soon, right, Well, I know, I sure,

673
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:13.559
don't you know, Garrett Yeat,
all modern cars. I encourage all

674
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:15.960
your listeners go to Mozilla. They
make the Firefox web brouss. So they

675
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.679
have a website called Privacy Not Included
where they take a look at products and

676
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.239
evaluate their privacy and help you,
as a consumer make decisions about what you

677
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:27.880
might or might not want to use. They recently did a big expose on

678
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.360
modern cars, and I think most
people will be absolutely they'll have their minds

679
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:36.320
flown when they see what's your average
car, including American cars are collecting.

680
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.639
Now when you throw in that,
you're buying a car coming from China,

681
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:45.639
our largest adversary in the world,
an adversary that our own government is constantly

682
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:50.480
warning about from a cybersecurity perspective and
critical infrastructure perspective. You're going to buy

683
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.039
a car that's got cameras and microphones
in it and you're going to drive around.

684
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:57.760
I mean it's a surveillance device.
First off, there's a well documented

685
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.559
evidence where the Russians used web cameras
and you to find targets. Imagine millions

686
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:07.159
of cars driving around, capturing data
not only about you as the driver,

687
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.960
not only about your passengers and occupants, but also about every building everywhere you

688
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:15.079
go in the car and sending all
that back to China. Now, how

689
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:16.880
could that possibly be good? And
then, of course there's the possibility,

690
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:22.280
look at this crowd strike thing today, there's the possibility that there could be

691
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:24.320
some kind of backdoor in that software
that would let them take control of the

692
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:29.679
car while you're driving and drive you
into the local water plant or drive you

693
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:34.280
into the local power station. I
know this probably sounds far fetched to people,

694
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.840
but this is where we're at with
this stuff. Going back to my

695
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:43.119
earlier comment about the fragility of our
society thanks to all of this wonderful technology,

696
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.440
Well, every time I talk to
you, I'm more and more reassured

697
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:53.599
that our destruction is guaranteed. I
appreciate that. Sadly, sadly it's coming,

698
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:58.519
all right, The end is denied. Dave Hatter, thank you very

699
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.719
much for a little tech talk on
a Friday and some explanation of what happened

700
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:09.599
with the crowd strike outage overnight that
you know that actually grounded planes and grounded

701
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:19.079
plans and hurt hurt people's ability to
communicate with each other. Bob Harward is

702
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:22.480
another former Secret Service agent. We've
got him on After News, plus a

703
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:28.199
guy who says they're trying to take
away your right to drive at all.

704
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:32.239
It's time to fight, Fight,
Fight, Gary Jeffin for Sloany on seven

705
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:38.159
hundred WLW. Is your propane supplier
working hard to provide the best value for

706
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:42.679
your family? Box your guess works
hard twenty four to seven three sixty five

707
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:49.519
to keep your family safe? And
Ah, do you know what the gouge

708
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:53.320
is? Prepare yourself. You're about
to find out. We have three Star

709
00:58:53.480 --> 00:59:00.239
Admiral Bob Harward, a legendary Navy
seal, former National Security Councilman member,

710
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:04.639
and author of the new book The
Gouge, How to Be Smarter Than the

711
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:08.360
Situation You're In? And he joins
us right now. Admiral Harward, how

712
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:12.880
are you this morning, Ray John? Thanks for having me, and it's

713
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:19.599
a beautiful day here in Milwaukee.
Ah. Did you enjoy the RNC Oh,

714
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.880
my god, it was unbelievable,
the excitement, the buzz, the

715
00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:27.360
people. Yes, I did enjoy
it. It was a lot of fun.

716
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:30.039
Well, you talk about the Gouge, the title of your book,

717
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.880
How to Be Smarter Than the Situation
You're in? Do you think this is

718
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:38.760
a book that could be recommended reading
for a Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle.

719
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:45.519
I think it's recommended reading for anyone
because here's what it's about, and the

720
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:51.360
book traces the history of the term, what it means, and why it's

721
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:59.000
so relevant to any team, any
organization. And yes, I think it's

722
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:04.840
important reading. And if you would
ask military guys, specifically the Navy,

723
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:08.519
they would tell you, well,
it's the inside information what you really need

724
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:14.360
to know. And that's a true
statement. But it's so much more than

725
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:20.800
that. It's how do you build
that community and the people and share that

726
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:28.079
experience based knowledge with your team,
not only to accomplish the mission they had

727
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.960
a mission to do that day,
but also how do you take care of

728
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:38.639
your people professionally and personally personally.
So it's that culture and that system that

729
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:45.039
works that and so yes, for
that situation or any of those, I

730
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:51.440
think it helps each of the individuals
and the team accomplish the mission in the

731
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:55.159
ways it should be done. Do
you think it was not the case that

732
01:00:55.320 --> 01:01:01.639
day? After watching and listening to
President Trump last night with his keynote speech,

733
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.559
his acceptance speech, do you feel
like President Trump knows the gouge?

734
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:14.760
I sure, hope. So I
think he's picking a team. I think

735
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:20.519
jd Vance the rest of the team
is smart. Their knowledge they have experienced.

736
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:25.239
And that's the number one concern I've
always had in government and defense.

737
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:32.559
Do you really have the based,
best experienced based knowledge to make those right

738
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:38.360
decisions? And so I think President
Grump got a lot of that from his

739
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:44.119
first term. I think he's learning
a lot of it now and I think

740
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:50.800
this incident, this attempted assassination,
puts them in a much different place.

741
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.440
I was cecil for forty years.
I had a lot of guys shot guys

742
01:01:53.440 --> 01:02:00.760
shot at and when that happened,
it sure impacts you. You think differently

743
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:05.280
and impacts you. And I think
we saw some of that on the stage

744
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:09.840
last night with President Trump. I
think he's a different man for that experience.

745
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.920
Well, he's a different man for
the experience of the first term.

746
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:17.719
As you mentioned, and that was
one of my and other people's criticisms of

747
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:24.119
President Trump's first term is that he
did not always have the right people to

748
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:30.239
achieve the mission. Would you agree
with that? Well, I think they

749
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:36.920
were caught a little off foot in
that they didn't haven't done with their typical

750
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:40.199
politicians. If you look, I
served on the Bush administration, and a

751
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:45.440
lot of that team were teams who
had worked on the previous Bush administration.

752
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:51.519
If you look at the Biden team, it is the team from the Obama

753
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:57.079
leginistrations in a lot of different seats. So I think in that first his

754
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.639
first administration, they weren't for pay
for that and they had to put their

755
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:06.440
own team together on somewhat short notice. I think they're now in a position

756
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:10.000
now much more confident, and they're
starting to look at that team, look

757
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:15.079
at what who are the best experienced
people to put in those positions. So

758
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:21.719
I think it's going to be a
much much more experienced, a much stronger

759
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:27.960
team, and they know the issues
thereafter that they want to address and who

760
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.079
will be the best people to get
after that. So yes, I think

761
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:35.800
it's a much a different position they're
in today. We're talking to Admiral Bob

762
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.880
Harward, who's the author of the
gouge how to be smarter than the situation

763
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:44.440
you're in? Boy, I tell
you what the more that comes out about

764
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:51.079
last Saturday in Pennsylvania in the assassination
attempt to Admiral Harward, I'm not sure

765
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.440
that they were smarter than the situation
They were in at least some elements of

766
01:03:54.440 --> 01:04:01.639
that, and hopefully a lot was
learned from those obvious, now in hindsight

767
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:06.719
mistakes. You were asked to be
President Trump's National security advisor? You declined?

768
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:10.760
Are you glad you declined? After
you see what they did to General

769
01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:15.239
Flynn? Well, I was just
in a different place. The timing was

770
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:19.679
not right for me. And again
I know Mike I served with them.

771
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:25.519
He found himself in a position he
did not have the experience before. He

772
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:30.440
had not been in the political world, he had not had that experience or

773
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:36.360
knowledge, and he didn't have a
team who had that experience to best advise

774
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:43.440
it. So very tragic for Mike, very unfortunate. And again, going

775
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:47.000
into those positions, you need to
know you're going into a different environment.

776
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:53.440
He had been a very successful military
officer, and so he was changing into

777
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:59.320
a whole different culture and ecosystem that
I don't think he had the experience for,

778
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.760
and unfortun we had that tragic incident. Well, I hope that everybody

779
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:10.639
listening will give this, give this
a run through. Here it's the gouge

780
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:16.159
g o u ge apostrophe. No, I mean, not a exclamation point.

781
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:20.039
How to be smarter than the situation
you're in. And the author is

782
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:25.440
a three star Admiral Bob Harward.
Thank you, sir, great success with

783
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:28.400
the book, and thanks for spending
some time with us this morning. All

784
01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:31.119
right, thank you much, friend, I really enjoyed it. You got

785
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:39.440
it. Jay Bieber up next about
your right to drive ah vacation time.

786
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:43.519
You know, it doesn't matter where
you go. You can always listen to

787
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:46.960
seven hundred w l W on our
live stream. So whether you're taking the

788
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:54.400
family for a week of kayaking,
or you're cruising Transatlantic with Kate Winslet,

789
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:58.880
but if so, tell her to
scooch Obrad. There's plenty of boom for

790
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.920
two on that door. Move your
butt Oversang. You can always take us

791
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:06.440
along wherever you go. Just listen
to the seven hundred WLW live stream on

792
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:13.679
the free iHeartRadio app. Who's gonna
drive you home tonight? Is it gonna

793
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:23.119
be you? There's gonna be some
robot and some centralized government location, somebody

794
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:28.880
automated in a satellite. There is
a move of fut to get us out

795
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:33.119
of our cars. If that's not
apparent to anybody who's been paying any attention

796
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:38.480
at all over the last few years
with the push to ev vehicles, which

797
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:45.679
are not convenient, They're not they're
not anything that looks like a good choice

798
01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:50.920
for most people as far as freedom
of movement and travel, autonomous cars,

799
01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:57.280
self driving cars, all of that. What bad could come from that?

800
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:01.559
What could possibly go wrong? To
talk about that and more, Jay Bieber

801
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:06.000
our guests for the next few minutes
from the National Motorists Association. It's time

802
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:11.159
to fight back. They say,
from automated enforcement to automated vehicles, how

803
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:14.360
driving freedoms are under thread, and
what you can do about it. Jay

804
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.960
Bieber, good morning, how are
you. Good morning, Pleasure to be

805
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:20.440
with you. Now, I've said
this for a long time that the push,

806
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:28.960
especially this mandated evy vehicles by twenty
thirty or whatever, they know it's

807
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:34.760
not practical. They know it's not
cost efficient for most people. They know

808
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:41.440
that driving an electric vehicle is ultimately
going to cost so much more, and

809
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:48.639
not just necessarily in the charging.
But what it is is a move to

810
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:53.519
get us all in some kind of
mass transit and take away our own individual

811
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:57.039
freedom of movement. Do you see
it that way? Oh? Absolutely,

812
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:01.280
that's exactly what we're seeing going on
out there, which is whether it's electric

813
01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:08.119
vehicle mandate or any of these other
things like automated enforcement or this thing they

814
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called road diet, which is basically
taking away car lanes perfectly good car lanes.

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All of these things are a part
and parcel of a movement to get

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you out of your personal vehicle.
They don't want you driving your car.

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You have too much freedom if you
do that. In their minds, you

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are destroying the planet if you drive
to the grocery store. So their push

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is for you to be on a
bus or a bicycle and not to drive

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your personal automobile. And all of
these policies, although they sound like they're

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for other things, it's really all
part and parcel of a movement for you

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to reduce your automobile usage. And
that's what this is about. Even the

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Green New Deal push to get us
away from combustion engines, it's all part

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of the same package. It's all
part of the same thing. It's all

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part of this idea that human beings
not have any impact on the planet,

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that that human beings are bad,
human activity is bad. And so you

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you know, you must conform to
their idea to minimize that. And you

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know in their idea is you know, the biggest boogeyman for them right now

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is the use of your personal automobile. Yeah, I mean, And the

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thing is, we almost have a
de facto surveillance state now. Almost anywhere

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you go you could be captured.
Your movement could be captured and logged pretty

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much and tracked. But they want
to take away any freedom at all of

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movement. I'll tell you during COVID
and the stupid lockdowns, Jay, my

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wife and I had something that we
called asphalt therapy. We would just we

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would just get in our car with
no particular destination, just to get out

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of the house and drive. And
some things were open, some things were

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closed, but we weren't really going
anywhere. We were just getting out to

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enjoy that freedom of being out of
the house and going where we wanted to

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go where, you know, when
we wanted to go. And if what

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we're saying is true, and I
believe it is, and the push is

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on to get us out of our
personal vehicles and so they can control all

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of our movement to wherever we go
when we go there, then I mean,

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that is what they're trying to take. That's the freedom they're trying to

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take away and it's just it's frightening
as hell to me. Yes, it's

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very concerning. Just think about what
your life would be like, and we

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had a taste of that during COVID, But just think about what your life

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would be like if you could not
get in your vehicle and go where you

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wanted to go when you wanted to
go to, I don't know, go

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to the grocery store, go to
take your kids a soccer practice, go

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to your house of worship that you
wanted to you that every time you wanted

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to go and do something, and
just make a choice in your life to

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say other than you know, being
in you on your property, which they

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also want to limit. But if
you did not have the choice and the

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ability to go and do that freely
and easily as you do now, your

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life would be radically different. You
are freedoms would be radically different. And

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so a lot of people say,
oh, you know, the car is

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a symbol of freedom and prosperity.
It's not just the symbol of that,

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it is the driver of that.
It is one of the greatest inventions that

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has brought about personal freedom and prosperity
that we've ever had invented, and I

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don't think that's overstating what comes from
having a personal autobile. If you think

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about the poorest members of society,
what lack they lack transportation, they lack

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having a car, and everybody who
is poorer in our society than the richer

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people aspire to one day having enough
money to get a car so they can

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be freed up in terms of their
personal choices, have better access to jobs,

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have have better access to education,
just have better access to everything that

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everybody else has because they don't have
a personal vehicle to get around. So

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you want to get somebody out of
poverty, get them a car well as

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an American citizen according to the Constitution, from from what I understand, we

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have a god given right to travel
freely. And you know another thing they're

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trying to and you know you can
look at it from from those terms as

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well. This is this is about
yeah, absolutely, when I mean,

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I'll tell a story when I when
I was after I graduated college, I

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went to visit the Soviet Union when
it was still the Soviet Union, and

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one of the things that I was
shocked about was that you had to get

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permission from the government to go places
in the country. Most people obviously were

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poor because of the socialist system there, and so not everybody had a car.

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But even if you had a car, you had to get permission to

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travel. That was shocking to me
as an American, which I was used

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to. My dad was a school
teacher. We had an RV, we

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had a motor home. We would
travel the country in the summer when we

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were all off from school, and
it was shocking to me that the government

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could restrict your ability to get around
in the way that they were doing in

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the Soviet Union. And now we're
seeing a lot of the same sorts of

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things, not in the same way, but the same kind of amount of

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restriction is happening because they they want
you out of your car. So although

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you know the means is different,
but it's a very similar effect. It's

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always the curving of your right as
slowly bit by bit, the slippery slope.

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As we say, the NMA,
how do people contact you? We're

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running short on time, Okay.
National Motors Association, Google National Motors Association.

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Our website is motorists dot org.
Join us join the fight to Protect

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your freedoms. Where the only organization
that is working in this space. If

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you like driving faster than fifty five
miles an hour on a major highway,

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you can thank the National Motors Association
because we got rid of the fifty five

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fifty five mile per hour national speed
limit in the nineties and we've been working

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on these things ever since. So
you know your freedom's protected. Come join

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us. Keep up the good work. Jay Bieber from the National Motorists Association,

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that's my time. Talk to you
tomorrow morning on the Saturday morning edition.

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Red's Round Up Up Next, the
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looking for journeyman electricians, field workers, and apprentices to work for one of

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