What's up everybody? It's Rose Pricks and we're talking vander Pump. Listen,
it's swim Pickens out there, and you know the Housewives are over, but
people are still watching vander Pump, right, you know it's funny, right
yeah. Let me just start with an apology. I'm so sorry Stephanie that
I made you watch this. I was wrong. It's not great, this
particular episode that I was like, trust me, it's not as good as
last season, but it's not terrible. And it was pretty terrible last night.
But it doesn't stop. I mean, I still have got some good
tea. Okay, I'm still going to get in it. Yeah. I
think the thing my macro note about this is that it's so self conscious.
Now. I just feel it. I just feel like everybody's acting, and
I feel like even a lot of the scenes are like, hey, are
you going to have a party when Arianna's home? Like everything feels over,
like so rehearsed, and I'm like, these people can't act. And Tom
Sandoval's face is doing so much face acting. It's like, I'm going to
look like Conda Paudy right now, how's my Poudy face? I was really
not enjoying him. He is the worst He's always been. This has been
a comment that I've had since the beginning of vander Palm, which is none
of them can act. So only when there's huge, explosive things that happen,
like when stas, when Jack's cheated on stops. There are moments that
felt real. Obviously I felt last year ultimately ended up being a real thing.
But for the most part, it's it's Sandoval's. I've always said this,
He's the absolute worst. He cannot act. They're so bad at it.
Jack's is bad at it, but Tom Sandoval is the worst, no
question. And now it's worse than it's ever been. So like, let's
talk about this for a second, because you haven't seen it in a while.
Tom and Arianna living in the house, So what do you think,
Like, what the fuck? Well, I think that that feels. I
mean, I know that you know, there's the gossip. The word on
the street is that, oh, well they have to because she's not good
because they started filming right away. So this is still kind of fresh,
and I don't know, it seems good for the show. Well it's good
for the show. And she says no, he wants to sell. I'm
going to I want the price to go up. I'm not the one moving
out. She doesn't want to get screwed over like money wise. So maybe
that's true, but WoT don't you have a ton of friend don't you have
a boyfriend? Arianna? I guess he lives he doesn't live here, so
she can't go live with him. But she's in like a serious relationship already.
It's only been three months since that whole explosive thing happened, right,
So which I which is fine. I don't have an issue with her doing
that, but it's like there's no friend. She can't go crash with Katie
while they're filming for that. However, many months they're filming, she's got
to live in the house because she lives there. They're like left to these
their little rooms that they live in. Right, they could do the thing
that people do when they divorce. I know a lot of people that get
divorced and they don't want their kids to have to move. So two weeks
sign two weeks off. Well. The whole thing is that this seems to
be very much for the show. I mean, there are so many scenes
having to do with that. So obviously this has to do also with Bravo.
I just I don't buy it. I don't buy it either, and
I'm sad that I don't buy it because I want to buy it. But
like, yeah, okay, So Sanda Bal's having a party, and then
Katie and La La this is just like a little catchup. They go to
dinner to like, you know, squash their beef that they had last week.
They yelled at each other, which they do often. They're two kind
of you know, alphas. I guess, right. So then they had
the party. Then Ariana walks right on by, just like them say anything,
just walks. It's so bizarre. Should we talk about the fact that
La La is like, you know, I'm just She's she's very Okay,
how am I going to put this? Nah? Oh well, she she's
very like I'm sober and you're not. So I'm working on myself and like
I'm just I'm trying to not have any resentments and you're just angry all the
time. It's just she said that to Katie. Is that what she said
to Katy? Yeah, and mean when she was like, I just can't
have this anger, like and you're just you're just always mad at stuff.
Like basically, she was calling Katie negative and she's always that's the through line.
They always say that, right, She's just like you want to just
like you want to just hate everything, and I just want to like love,
like I'm just all love, which I just thought was a little much.
It's also total bullshit. It's such bullshit Katie puts up. I feel
like she carries the world, like everything on her back. All she did.
All she does is ride or die for her female friends. And to
be fair, she's actually really sweet to Schwartz. They're friends, they're cool
there, they own dogs together. Like, she doesn't love him, she
doesn't put up with any bullshit, but she left him, and she says
that She's like, do you think it was easy for me to leave my
marriage? I was not getting the love that I feel I deserved. And
he treated her like shit for years, like ten years. He was awful
to her, right we all and we all were like, oh, she's
so negative, but he's adorable because he was so funny. But then we
would start to see when he would just get really drunk, he'd call her
names. He called her fat. This was his girlfriend. Yeah, wife.
So she just Katie just puts up with it and you know, continues,
but she doesn't take any shit when sant Well, we'll get to the
Sandabal thing when she comes over for that other Areana party. So, Lala,
you know, did you recognize the place that Lala and Katie went?
No, where'd they go? Called O Henry's, which I went. I
went on a date there like a year ago. Oh, but it's it
used to be the newsroom. Remember the newsroom Robertson, Yes, I do.
You and I used to go there. We went there a couple of
times. I loved that place. But they they yeah, became this very
fancy, bullshit expensive place, but it's very good. Okay, So they
go, they have this dumb ass conversation. They're they're good, and I
just, yeah, I wrote like ironic for a Lala to ask someone to
be softer. Yeah, She's like, I'm in my soft era and you're
just like angry and I just want to like love everybody. I'm just you
know, I just want to like pray and meditate and have a one hundred
thousand babies. I'm gonna have all the babies, but I have to have
some babies that are just my babies. That was a weird thing. Did
we get to that? No, I mean did that happen yet? Okay?
So then so sandovald I just wrote, who are these friends of Sandoval
We've never seen before? Oh my god. I was like, I was
like, stop trying to make this Kyle guy happen because Kyle chan or whatever.
I was like, okay, so these are brand new people that we've
never seen and now going to be in every scene. And then also Tom
trying to act like he's scared to meet girls. This guy who's just banging
chicks all the time. I'm sorry, and he's just like or just not
out of the game for so long, I'm out of the game. Arian
and Rachel really fucked me up. No, they didn't. Okay, so
wait are we are? We at that pool party? So he's in the
pool floating around? Is that what we were talking about? Where there's a
girl there talking to him? He has I thought it was a swiftie.
I tried to pause it. It looked like he had a Taylor Swift bracelet
on his ankle. One boy's wearing a Swifty bracelet on his ankle. It
was like a beaded thing, and I couldn't read it. But you know,
like, if you're a if you go to the concert, let me
just fill you in. They give you a little fun little bracelet and they
each bracelet has a different song on it. I got delicate, that's right,
delicate, and I couldn't read his, but I think that's what that
was. Okay, So Billy's there, let's talk about that. Well,
hold on, here's something that just makes me angry. Okay. So you've
got the You've got these scenes that are being clearly acted, like with these
two girls in the pool where where he's like, oh, hey, girls,
like it's weird for me to talk to girls like, oh, you
guys are cool. Okay, you know, uh, I live here with
uh? Is it cool that I live here with my ex girlfriend? And
they're like, who's your ex girlfriend? Okay. Later in the show,
and forgive me for getting like so heated about this, but I feel like
this show can't have it both ways. Later in the show, Jax is
going to be like, everybody in the world knows that you're a scumbag,
but now suddenly we're supposed to pretend that these girls that are at the house
of these people that are on one of the biggest shows, what a big
reality show? Are like, what, they just happened to be invited by
somebody else and they who who's sand of all? What's it? I didn't
even know that guy's name before I got here. Oh, I just happened
to be at a pool party. And so they've met at See you Next
Tuesday with James. They're obviously like a major Vanderpump fans that they were even
at a sea You Next Tuesday, like night these girls. Yeah, so
the girls are supposed to be like, well, well, who's your who's
your ex girlfriend? And he's like, yeah, you know, her name's
Ariana. You've probably never even heard that name before, but like I lived
with it. It's like, are we watching a bad play. Also,
they didn't even mic everybody. I don't even think he was miked. Somebody
pointed that out. I was like, were they not miked because the pool
or what? Because it just they obviously had like a boom mic, but
it was barely even picking up what they were saying. Like, not only
is it bad acting, it's just like really bad production, no offense.
I would be more interested if the girls were like, yeah, obviously,
yeah, ye, pump Rules were on a show. We're on a show,
like yes, we know who your ex girlfriend is. Please stop,
like that would be interesting, yes, yes, and like fuck you dude,
or yeah, like let's put some drama. The fourth wall has been
broken a long time ago, so let's go. Yeah. Then Billy is
there asking for an after She's like, are we gonna do an after hours
thing? TACKI she's always been terrible to Arianna and I don't like it.
Okay, I don't really know who that is. So she was on the
she was a like a bartender or something it right, she was at sir
She worked at SIRR. They brought her in. I don't maybe it was
just a season or two. Ultimately it seemed like she was she got fired
because do you remember this, She was trying to say that the girls weren't
including her because she was trans. Right, So they had a girl's night,
and then Lisa was just not having it. She's like, oh no,
no, not on my show. You're not going to pull the shit
on my show. That's just not true. But then obviously they worked it
out because Billy's right there, got it Okay, So Billy's just always really
been mean to like the girls on the show, and obviously became like had
a real friendship with Sandabal. There's a lot of rumors that they kind of
dated for a little bit, but whatever, that's their business. So then
yeah, that's when it got to Santa Sandy inviting these I just grow very
young, by the way, how young were those checks? He's like forty
yes, yes, yeah, oh, and then he's like, oh,
he's like, oh, you guys ever been to Burning Man? Like it
was supposed to be. He's just so awkward, like you guys been to
Burning Man? Like now, I mean, this is the conversation that's gross.
It is just it would be so uh cooked. I mean it was
just so you know, Okay, now I'm going to say this and I'm
going to try I'm trying to make myself like kind of sad and kind of
likable. And I know that you've told me that. The backstory is that
Lisa was like, oh, we're so worried about about Tom and you know,
he might like off himself. We've got to like take care of his
mental health. He's not gonna he's the biggest narcissist. I've ever like that
guy. Please, that's that's I hate the manipulation of something like that,
and that's exactly what Tom's doing. I hate it. I hate it.
I hate it. I hate it. Now have we gotten to the part
about Tom schwar And and his sort of maybe girlfriend? Oh oh, the
production is like, yeah that she doesn't live with. Yeah, we need
to very much talk about Joe because I've gotten into a couple. Well,
I posted something about Joe. People have been posting very funny things about Joe
on Whispering. One of them, do you remember Laura Laura Lee, the
one did you watch back when Jack started dating this actress? Yes, crazy,
she made him go to an AA meeting and didn't she leave the show
because she booked like a She booked like one thing. Yeah, and it
worked a little bit. She was cool like it was. It was rough,
and somebody wrote on Whispering like Laura Lee walked so spooky Joe could fly
or run. They call her Spooky Joe only because Katie kind of meanly called
her that. She's because what happened was they broke up. He moved out
and three weeks later moved in with Joe, and they have had like they've
hooked. They hook up all the time, right, They're obviously supposed to
be like kind of in love, will they won't? They best friends sometimes
they hook up, but you know that whole thing, which is just like
and I feel like I was a little hard on Joe in my own mind
because it's not really her fault. She's like just a goofy girl, goofy.
I'm like that, I get it, but I'd written something on there,
I goes Joe, I go. I rewatched last week's episode. She
is Joe okay, And somebody tried to come at me for that, but
so many people had my back. I well, first of all, I
don't find her likable at all. I don't know if they were trying to
make her unlikable, but the whole like, oh my god, have I
told you my turtle story, like and listen, I'm coming at it like
I don't really know the whole character. So I'm not finding her that likable.
But she has a very desperate to be on the show energy to me.
Yes, And then she apparently had sent that text and then somebody said
something was like, well, of course Katie's not going to like her.
Was like, yeah, no, she's probably not gonna love the girl that
moved in with her husband while they're still married, right three weeks after they
separated or whatever she claims. And then yeah, and then it's just itching
to get on the show. Yeah, she has a lot of I want
to be on this show energy, Oh my god, but a lot of
other crazy energy. And I was just saying, like a lot of people
were like, she coked out, She's like clappying. Sanda Ba's here,
She's I don't know if that was last week or this week, but she's
just like Sandy. She doesn't she's definitely not a girl's girl. Well,
later in the show, she complains that people acute thought she was like a
like a meth head or something like a crackhead. You know what I'm talking
about. I don't remember. And then did she say like I'm not.
Yeah, she was like she thought it was really mean that people like thought
that she looked like she was like a like cracked out or something. Well,
I got kind of annoyed because so people are on whispering. We're like,
oh my god, everyone's making funny jokes about Joe and whatever. Nothing
crazy, terrible, mean, but just like what the fuck is going on
here? And someone got mad. They're like, I think she's just fine.
She's clearly neurodiverse. And that's when I kind of started to lease,
Oh, I know. And then it's like, first off, you're not
a therapy a doctor in any way, she's not clearly anything. And if
you're going to talk about being on a spectrum, then we're all on a
spectrum and we're all slightly neurodiver. I mean, that's ridiculous. She doesn't
in any way like we're not talking about love on the spectrum. She's like
it's okay for her to be like a goofy girl, and like, okay,
maybe maybe I'm definitely neurodiver. I can't handle certain sounds. I have
to wear headphones sometimes when I can't handle like a motorcycle, Like I'll have
so much anxiety. So I am too, Does that excuse me? Like
sleeping with someone's husband. I mean, I don't understand what we're saying here,
but that would be funny if we were like recapping love on the spectrum
and we're just like, I mean, what a weirdo? Like the come
on and that people are like, uh, that this one spectrum and then
we're like, come on, that's not an excuse, that's ridiculous. Oh
yeah, okay, No, that's why we love that show because it's just
so beautiful, Like it's very real. It's the realest thing you're going to
find. These people. Everyone so lovable, whether or not she's been diagnosed,
which you cannot do on Facebook. No. Also, it's not like
she's saying, hey, guys, settle down, like you know, I'm
on the I'm high functioning autistic, right, and she will say it.
I bet that she's going to come out. I bet what she's going to
read all the Reddit chit and she'll just say it. But it doesn't matter.
It's not even like everyone's on a spectrum. Yeah, like we're whatever.
Okay, so Tom or all that. Okay, we'll get to all
that. Let's talk about Tom's assistant, Anne, who we all love and
we're trying to get Anne her own show. Okay, the one that she
cleans up is the one who cleans up after him. Yeah, who's not
supposed to. And so this came out. I think she'd signed something.
I think she has a podcast called like something about NDA's she does it with
another assistant, and she is a clearly team Ariana and she's not hiding it,
and I love, love love her. She's not really talking about Santa
bal but she makes it very clear or how much she loves Arianna. Well,
why is she like kissing his ass constantly? Scene? Why is she
like, hello, sir, I've just I've just gathered a few laundry,
sir. Someone I've worked for people that I didn't like and was kissed their
ass. Some people are just bullying, Like there's certain narcissist bosses like anything
who you kind of just started. You just want them to be nice to
you. And I'm not saying Tom's abusive to her, but yeah, I
don't think that she's supposed to pick up after him, but he says she
is. He's like, her job includes light housekeeping. Right, I'm sure
he did put in the thing, but whatever. Okay, So then she's
having a party, so Shena comes over. Hold on, oh is this
when they have the conversation about dancing with the stars. They have the conversation
about like She's like, well, I've always wanted dancing with the stars and
you didn't tell me you were doing it, and I thought I've always wanted
it. Okay, so you told me about this. You told me about
this, and I knew I was annoyed about it, and now I was
really annoyed about it. Watching it, I cannot believe. And I know
you love Sheena, so I do not. I do not anymore. No,
I don't love her. I never said I love that. Last week
she was like one of your favorites. I thought her. I just said
she was definitely more relatable because she was just seemed really depressed and anxious and
she was talking about postpartum and I just felt like she was more relatable.
But no, she's awful. This kind of making this about yourself and like,
I don't know, I've I feel like I've been the Ariana in a
circuit, not this, you know, well, I mean basically like this
I was. I was on Dancing with the Stars. I don't know if
I told you that. I don't remember that. And I feel like a
bad friend because I would have voted for you. Yeah, I feel like
I didn't make anybody. I don't want anybody to vote for me because they're
my friend. I want to win, like because America loves me. We
know I was on American Idol to the last of the final three, and
I'm I mean, I no, you did not tell me that. First
of all, you know that I have always wanted to be on American Idol,
So I feel like you I didn't know that. That's not I didn't
even know you even that's my thing. Cecily. How many times have I
been like, oh my god, I wish I could be on American Idol.
I've auditioned so many times if they would, and then you got on
it and didn't even tell you. Did you mention me to the producers?
I feel really bad now because I was on it as a contestant, made
it to the final three. Then they asked, I'm a guest judge this
season. So You're like, hey, can we record board a f And
I'm like, I can't right now. I'm busy, but I don't tell
you exactly what I'm doing. Yeah, it's usually okay. I'm not saying
I'm not trying to say you're a bad friend, and I would have gotten
over it, but I just want you to know for the future you can
talk to me like. I just don't want to have to hear about that
like way after the fact, like in La Press when she said and then
okay, imagine this, imagine this aside from so arian is sitting there having
to listen to her go like, you know that wasn't my thing. Well
at least you were my backup dancer, because you know that Ariana, as
I said last week, was trained as a dancer. She literally comes from
like theater dance background. She's very good. She made it. Really,
she's really good, right, and Shane Shena is terrible, Like what are
you talking to just because you want to do something. I mean, it
would honestly be like if you were an actress in la and had been training
and training and training and then you book a part on Grey's Anatomy and then
I'm like, oh my, what the fuck? Like you know on that
show? Right, you know I love that show and that I've always wanted
to be on Gray's Anatomy. And then you'd be like, but you're not
even really an like I've been acting for this many years, and I'm like,
it doesn't matter. I just can't believe you would hide that from me,
knowing how much sane. It's really insane, and I don't understand why
nobody's addressing the fact that that's insane. I think Ariana is like sort of
seeing that the tide is turning, but she doesn't know. And they've been
friends a long time. They are really good, genuine friends. She brought
her into that. She brought Ariana into the show into vander Pomp. Oh,
so that's true. But let's look at this for a second. This
is the other thing that's fucking crazy. Like, can you imagine if a
guy did to me what Tom's handiball did to her, and then three months
later you were like, Cecily, I mean I just like you know,
I miss him too. She hasn't made about herself. I mean, I've
seen other scenes where she's like, but what about me? Yes, I'm
losing my best friend. Lived with him, she thought they were going to
get married, they were trying to have a baby together, and then she'd
be cool about it. But also the way she says she's like that when
it comes to Tom, I'm going to come back because she can't. Whatever
ven years she had for Don, she really can't. She's never been able
to really open her off, right, So when it comes to Tomes,
I love him, and it's like, let's say like years from now.
Let's say le'ers from now like stand of bal It's like, wants to be
friends, Like am I can I be friends? And then Ariana is like
it sounds to me like she's kind of just trying to say she wants to
be friends of Sandival. Let's just say, okay, let's just say that
like one billion years into the future, like have you seen the movie by
Centennial Man? Okay, imagine I'm the Ryan Williams part and I so this
is like I'm a robot Okay, and imagine like fifty million years in the
future. Like we don't even have like human bodies. Okay, so that's
not even human bodies. We're just in different bodies. But let's say Sandival
is one of the robots. Would that be cool if like be just like
we're robot friends. No, actually they're supposed to be, like she and
Arianna are supposed to be best friends. That's fucking crazy. I would not
be cool with that, and Arianna couldn't be I know a lot of people
turned against her online too. I don't get that either, because she couldn't
be nicer. She's like, look, I'm not saying don't do, but
I've got to set my boundaries, and I don't want to be like friends
with people that are hanging out with them. Nobody on this show is allowed
to have boundaries, and if they do try to have boundaries, like Ari
is not allowed to have boundaries because they're not allowed to have boundaries about like
Rachel Raquel. They're not allowed to have boundaries, like none of them are
allowed. Then everybody goes off on them and goes, oh my god,
you're not being nice. I guess if I were to play Devil's advocate,
it would be that, like I guess, Ariana, if she really wants
those boundaries, she could have not come back to vander Pump. But she
needs money like anybody else. It pays her good money, and it alway
show because of something that he did and she and she probably told productions very
clearly. In fact, I think she did. For a while, they
weren't going to film with Tom at all. Remember they were going to split
into two things, and I thought we all thought Sandoval was going to go
on this Jacks mate. Maybe that's why that even happened. But then I
guess they all just came't three months later. It's like, he's fine.
The only one that's being realistic is Katie. That's the only one that's like,
dude, you can't just be like sorry, right And Arianna is supposed
to be like her really good friends right well now, and now I mean
Sena is, and now Ariana sees because to be fair, she used to
be really fucking mean to Katie. Ariana did, and I hated it.
I hated it then, and I wish there'd be a scene where she's like,
I'm really sorry that I was so rude to you. Maybe that happened
in real life, but I really wish she would apologize. Yeah, it
was terrible because she was dating Sandoval, and obviously Katie was with Schwartz and
they didn't like each other, and Sandoval was always super mean to Katie like,
oh cuila, Katy, oh you drink in like he was just mean
to her on camera off camera, and Ariana like always rode for Sandoval and
was mean to Katie. And so then Katie didn't include her in her bridesmaids
for her own wedding. So Schwartz then made Arianna a groomsman a grooms woman
and Katie's like, are you fucking wow real? And she was like,
okay, listen, I don't hate Ariana or anything. And I know we're
doing the show, but like, this is my wedding, this is our
marriage, like she's to me. They had a big fight about it.
Wow. Yeah, so you know everyone's kind of I just wrote everyone's these
are a bunch of assholes. They're all just a bunch of assholes all of
Yeah. Yes, that's what I was thinking while watching it. I'm like,
all right, so Schwartz and Joe whatever. He says he could marry
her one day but won't, and then she's gonna go hang out with Ali.
Was like, well, it seems like they're leaving you out, so
I'll do your chart, right, So that's gonna happen. Oh, then
they go is this when they go to the bar? They all go to
a bar. I don't know. You said you were taking notes. I
thought I did, But then I have a lot of notes. So this
is going to be tough because I just have James and Ali and Sena and
whatever hanging out, and then I have Sandabal question Mark. This was like
a two in the afternoon too. There's no reason I know it should be
this bad, but hold on, we're going to get to the good part,
because something good. I want to I really want to get to the
next page. Let me let me skip a little bit. Okay, you
and Danger Girl. I just said, Oh, that's when Katie's like,
yeah, you're in Danger Girl regarding Joe. Joe trying to make herself happen.
Uh huh, oh, this is just there have so many like little
side conversations. Oh. Then Sheena is talking to san She's like, so
you feel like Raquel abandoned you? Do you remember that conversation where Sandoval's trying
to get real about how much he misses Raquel. Yes, which is so
weird because first of all, where is she? I mean, it's just
like a Kate Middleton situation, Like are we just implying that she's still like
in rehab? Like what is where is she? Right? Well, she
set her boundaries, Yeah, but but he keeps making these comments like when
she comes out or when she gets out gets out of? What is she
in? She was? She was in like a whatever you call it,
not a rehabit like a she went away for a while, remember, But
what was she said? She did? But would she still be there like
this months later? I think, so, I think you can do like
six months. I don't know what she did. She got out though,
because she texted. Remember people, La La texted and like, oh,
you may have missed that. But she she sent her a voice message and
she's like, I'm ready to talk. We're not mad at you, like
some bullshit. It was like, what the fuck? I mean, you
know, I'm not saying you bully her all day. You don't. Let's
not be terrible to somebody, but you have to be friends with them.
I mean, I think that's really strange, like a nightmare. Yeah that
sucks. Yeah. Yeah. So he's crying basically he I mean, there's
several scenes where he's just like crying over you know, he's so sad about
Rachel. Mm hmm, yeah, there's that. Then it clicks over.
This is the problem with the show. It's edited so quickly. So then
we're at Brock and Sheina and they're kind of having a fight over like their
schedules because Rock rides a career quote unquote. I was like, what career?
Then that nanny comes over. That felt weird. So I actually think
Brock made what I think he made a good point though. He said he
feels like Arianna is overextending and that when she stops like being so busy,
she's going to start to feel the pain. I thought that was like the
most mature thing anyone said on the show. Yeah, you had told me
before about this, Uh yeah, I mean, yes, that's true.
But I was more interested in the fact that you had told me that.
You know, he's not being really understanding of her anxiety about having a kid
and not wanting to leave the kid with a nanny. And I was squarely
on his side. From what I could see of the argument, It's like,
well, her whole thing was just, no, we just have to
be available for our child twenty four to seven, both of us. Like
all he was saying was I just want to be able to have a schedule.
I don't. He wasn't saying like put her in daycare. I don't
give a fuck. Yeah, he was just like, if we're going to
have help, I just want to know when that's going to be so that
I can plan. And she's like, well, I we're just not going
to know that. What Like that seemed real weird to me. Well,
their whole thing is real weird. Remember he was married with a kid,
like a baby, like he has a baby in Australia right or wherever,
and yeah, and I you know that's there. It's just that's the thing
that La La called out when they were trying to you know, I can't
say them, but it is weird. And he there was a domestic violence,
which he admits to says he's not proud of. But you know,
I'm not saying he can't be forgiven, but he's got a whole life back
there that he just left to go on mander from rules. Like as much
as I want to like him, it's it's kind of hard to Yeah,
oh I still I don't like him. It's just like in this conversation,
I can only go by what I'm looking at. And I was like,
I don't I think she's being Maybe I'm just really not liking Shina. Oh
well, of course. So it's it's hard. There's so many people to
hate. Because then it goes to Tom working out and the assistant has to
go like, uh, all right on us here, Katie's downstair, you
know, telling right right, So he's like, oh, he's like pumping,
Oh you just caught me pumping pumping iron, pumping big iron. Can
you spot me? Hey? I was you just caught me painting my fingernails
whatever. So he's like, oh, I guess I should apologize to Katie
and I love again. Katie's not she does not suffer fools at all.
M M. So he comes down, yeah, and he's like, hey,
what's up Katie. Yeah, She's like hi, good, she goes
hi because anyway, so I want to apologize, you know, just like
for the way I handled you know, you know, some stuff. And
she's like, what you can't just apologe Like basically, she's like you're an
asshole. You can't just go like sorry, Like you have to show.
You have to change your actions. You have to show, you have to
do do different, act differently. And he's like, what I mean,
I'm trying, Like That's all I'm trying to do is like like apologize to
people, like like like be different, Like don't you see how I'm different?
Like I'm working out now, like I'm being really like she says move
differently. I love the way she says it. Move move differently. Yeah,
that's it. Yeah, And he's just saying like, oh, what
he tortured Katie. I've watched every single season. I mean he tortured her
year after a year on camera, like I'm sorry, dude, you coming
down in your house like she was nice. She's a lot nicer to him
than I would have been. Yeah, that's not true. I probably would.
Also, it's just a classic narcissistic move when you're like, god,
everybody needs to like stop, like I already like I apologize, okay,
Like god, right, is everyone gonna punish me? Well, then he
says, everybody wants me to apologize. I did well, I can't do
anything else, he says to Schwartz, He's like, it's like I'm a
like Scott Peterson or something or whatever, and he's like, didn't Scott Peterson?
Schwartz like, didn't he murder his wife or a couple of people?
And he was like, like, fucking defense. Peter said, I felt
like, Okay, here's what I thought happened. I thought they said the
line, and then production stopped them and was like, hey, guys,
we can't like legally, you know, we can't say that, Like let's
just for just for us, So just do it again and say allegedly that's
what I felt like. But in my mind, I'm like, he is
in jail for murder, so you can say that, yes, of course
you're right, which just made make me feel again like this is so behind
the scenes, like, Okay, he said a thing, and now they're
going to like make him do it again. Okay. This is where it
gets tricky talking about it because there's a lot of back and forth because now
we're gonna say, like, you know who, you should really talk to
you. That's where we get to this part. And then I just wrote
down before they even said it, oh my god, if you fucking bring
Jackson, I swear I like a mile away, and I knew that's what
they were gonna do. Sorry to yell about this, but I get right.
I hate it so much. And they're like, you know who really
gets about like being an asshole? Okay, But before that, then it's
going back and forth, and we get a little clip of Sheena and this
is where I have a little sound up. Okay, we get a little
clip of Sheena and they're playing the game you know, never have I ever
whatever, and one of them is like, have an orgy with you guys
or whatever. They're the Brock had, which like we're just skating over rock
drinks, so like Brock, that was kind of funny. While I was
like rock right, It's like what I can't do an Australian accent, but
I mean this is okay. So then Sina's like yeah, and she had
had there. So she admitted to having had an orgy. And then they're
like who do you have an orgy with? And she's like, let's just
say my body used to be a wonder Let's just say my body used to
be a wonderland and then takes a drink of her drink like hmm, that's
the tea. So everyone's like, what the fuck? She had an orgy
with John Mayer. So I did a little digging, okay, and apparently,
you know, she had quite a few. Remember the way she even
got on the way vander Pump started was she slept with Brandy Glanville's husband,
right right, right? I remember that. That's how we think won didn't
she didn't Brandy slapper or something? Oh yeah? And then like she because
she had to serve them, and that's how we filtered. That's how they
got us into Vanderpump. One day or just watching this Brandy conversation and then
you follow Sheena right, and you're like, wait, why are we at
the bar? Now, where's the Real Housewives? Right? So they did
it, so she loves it. She's like total starfucker, even though I
mean, who was it Eddie? What's his name? Who was Eddie?
Yeah? I mean a nice looking gentleman. He was married, and she
always made herself the victim. She was always somehow always the victim of this.
So all right, So John Mayer was dating Jen Aniston at some point
and they were like out and about together, and so something happens, we
don't know what. And Sheena goes on a a YouTube show. I don't
know if it was originally on TV or if it was always on YouTube,
but it's called Young Hollywood and she's interviewed. So I'm going to play you
some of this. Oh hold on, you brought it? Yes? Hey,
everyone, it's Michelle Marie and I'm sitting here in the Hollywood Hills with
Seana Marie. Now it sounds like we're sisters, but we're not. We're
going to talk like sisters right now because she is giving me the exclusive with
John Mayer. Now, so many people right now are wondering what is the
real story. And we've been hearing rumors like you're dating, you're the girlfriend,
you guys just hang out. We want to hear it from you.
So first off, I just want to know how did you guys meet?
I met him. I work at the Green Van Room in Beverly Hills and
she had his birthday party there last year. I happened to be the losty
girl to go to work. It so wasn't this past April. A lot
of people were saying it was just this past month. No, I mean
I met him previously. But when I met him, he was with Jennifer.
I walked into the where it was, it kind of like hid him
back, and she told me how pretty I was, and she was like,
oh my god, you have such beautiful eyes. It's not like she
was so sweet. They tell me they were cute and cuddly and drank the
same kind of drink. And what was a drink? I was a Patrone
platinum on the rocks with a line and I had to keep getting their actual
because she liked a lot of lines, just like me. Did you see
you feel any chemistry with John at that moment? I mean, we all
had some drinks together, and he's just he's a really funny guy. Like
he just has an amazing personality. So I know sometimes that can be taken
off as like flirtation. So I don't know. Okay, so this is
a while back now and recently you guys are hanging out. Tell me,
like, from then on, what happened He came back into the club just
recently. A couple of months ago, they were broken up. We kind
of talked this and that, and we all were going through a breakup at
the same time. And so I think when two people kind of have something
in common like that, Oh yeah, we're both said at a certain time.
Yeah that I want to make clear. No one's cheating on anyone.
This wasn't like at his birthday he slent me his number, vice versa.
This is just recently. We want to know the real deal. So what
is the status between you and John? He's not my boyfriend and we're hanging
out now whatever. It looks like she got to cry, but okay,
not my boyfriend. What kind of things do you guys do together? Obviously
it's never been out together. There's no pictures of us together. Oh my
god, it's so sad. I can leave it for the imagination, you
know, hanging out, we're we have a good time. I mean we're
yeah, that's all. It's all about keeping it on the deal, right
on the deal. We all know how John is a pop rocket. John
says the best thing, says, no comment, you know, but sometimes
when you just oh, so many people breathing down your neck. And that's
why I just I kind of want to just set this straight. I'm not
his girlfriend, but it's just I don't want people also saying things about me
that are full I can't Okay, oh my god, Okay, he says,
keep it. He says, listen. First of all, she's still
trying to take times. He's still and she's still trying to take that story
to lunch in twenty twenty four, Like my god, woman, and it's
the saddest. I mean, like he obviously they just had sex a couple
of times. Let's just say, my body is a wonderland. Yeah,
but oh my god, you're just oh he's saying, don't talk to me.
He's like, just say no comment if anyone says anything. And then
she goes. She finds a YouTube show and by the way, this was
like whatever fifteen years ten years ago. This was like ten years ago.
Yeah, and she's like she's she hasn't hand to her vaniars pudence, so
she can talk a little bit better. She kind of whatever she did termo,
but she's it's insane. She's like, let I mean, it's not
my boyfriend, but like we hang out. Johnes is like a funny guy.
He's just a funny dude. Like he's the thing. The thing to
know about John that you might not know is that like we're really like super
close and like Jen Annison said, my hair was really pretty. She's the
sweetest. She likes a lot of lines, and like when we were like
there, like I mean, yeah, I guess you know, he's super
friendly, and I guess yeah, I mean I guess he was like there's
obviously chemistry between us, you know, And yeah, we were both single
and we're just like both going through stuff. I'm kind of scared of how
good the Sheena's impression is becoming. I don't even know if this is what
I want for my life. Holy shit. So yeah, all right,
she had an orgy with John Mayer, who fucking didn't but who in this.
Raise your hand if you're a woman listening to this and you never and
you didn't hook up with John Mayer exactly, Yeah, because everyone hooks up
with John May. He's like a And also, last thing, this would
be like me. Remember when I made out with Russell Crow and I told
everybody on every podcast yes, because of course, but it would be like
me going like I just want to set the record straight. We're not together.
But he's like awesome, Like no, yeah, we made out.
It was fun. It's a story to tell, of course, Like we
made out. That's it. It doesn't matter. I'm not gonna I don't
have to go to the press. I mean the but the idea which I
just said, but I'm going to just reiterate it one more time because it's
so annoying that in this day and age today she's like, yeah, my
body's the Wonderland. Look at that Google it. It's like, oh my
god, who cares? I did do that one time though I wrote it
article. Remember when I used to have that column and then NoHo knew I
had a like a little newspaper column here, and I wrote about the rustle
growth thing, and I just was like let's just say is a beautiful mind.
So I did do that, but again I wasn't trying to be interviewed
about it. I just you weren't on a TV show. Yes, you
weren't trying to see And she sought it out like she's like, obviously we've
never been seen together, so we're like, it's not my boyfriend, and
it's really and he s like that guy has been through the ringer like he
was like douche bag number one, and he's had so many interviews where he's
apologized for his past behavior and for being such like a man whore. And
for I'm just saying, it's like he's changed, clearly she hasn't. Really
Here's the thing. The thing, oh absolutely not. But the thing about
John May, I'm not a huge fan, because yeah I don't. I
had never had an issue with him for like sleeping with lots of women like
he could. So he did and people were down for it. But I
think from what I heard is he was very controlling. It was very mean
to like Jessica Simpson, Taylor Swift. Obviously she's got some good music out
of it, but not like he's not He's not great. He's like Sandaball
level not great. That doesn't mean we can't listen to his music. I
mean, just like you love Bill, you still watch the Cosby Show,
like okay. One thing to know about Stefanie is when she just, you
know, some of us like read the news, we wake up, we
listen to NPR to soothe herself. She watches a Cosby show. Well it's
not, it's just because it reminds me that, like, good people have
been accused of bad things. Yeah it happened, Yeah, it happened.
And I asked you one time. I was like, well, Bill Cosby
bok of Michael Jet Like I said to you one time, I go,
do you watch the Cosby You get up and that's just to start your day.
It's kind of meditative for you. And I go, do you choose
episodes where he's not in them? Because sometimes it would just be about Rudy
or like you know, Vanessa Cockroach, anybody else. And You're like,
no, no, no, you like this. You like them Bill like
Huxtable centric because what you said, I'm hostile. Yeah no, I mean
sure, what was his first name? Was it Bill Hawks? No,
it's that little coffy. But what Cliff, Oh, Cliff, thank you,
sorry, of course you would know. Alkay, let's so Jack,
let's just finish this. So Jax comes in. Sandoval's wearing that shirt.
It looks like he smell it looks just hardcore polyester. He does not say
that, and back and forth Joe and Ally do their astrology. It's not
trying to fabric shame either, by the way. Okay, I a polyester
too, and it's just hard. It just doesn't breathe. But you know
he hasn't watched that shit I just wrote. I hate Sandoval so much.
They're all over the place. Jack shows up, no, no, no,
pretending to fight with Sandival, like those two give a fuck about each
other in any way. Well, this was I think like the biggest moment
of the thing was that Jack who who's just like a piece of shit number
one and like cheated on everybody, right, He's cheated on everybody. And
now we know he's been cheating on Britney And hadn't he cheated on her before
like they got married? Oh yes, she knew it, right, Okay,
so he's massive cheater. So his whole thing is like, hey,
man, like you know, you know you fucked up man, like you
know, I mean, like listen, like if anybody knows, like what
you mean, Like it's me, but like, look at me. I
turned my life around, like I changed everything, Like I'm a great guy
now. And then he's like and look at you, You're just a piece
of shit, like you know, well, meanwhile, we know that he's
been cheating on Britney left and right. I mean, they're getting divorced.
I mean it's just so hypocritical, but they play this shit straight. There's
not even like here here would be a time to do a chiron about that,
Like, yeah, you made a chiron about like who he definitely doesn't
live with Joe, Like right, I don't. I just don't understand it.
I don't understand some villains that shit. That's one of the things I
love about that show that nobody can get away with anything, even though that's
not a reality. It's a game show. It's a different vibe. It's
like they, I mean, Joel McHale, nobody gets away with anything.
Everyone's the whole premise is that everyone sucks, so they're going to try to
outsuck each other, you know what I mean, And like whoever the meanest
one and it totally works. Do that here. Jackson and Sandabal are bad
people. Make them look bad, Like, don't give Jacks a platform,
right, he's so still I mean, I don't want to say Coke.
I don't know what he's doing. His jaw is still clenching his jaw whatever.
He's like, he's not doing well, right, And it's just a
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We tried it, tried to bring us into the valley, the new
show that we were talking about, and all I wrote is this. I
gave it like literally two minutes, and then I wrote, this is a
fail. Absolutely not thank you for being terrible and saving my time. Like
it wasn't even a little bit good where you'd go, I'll just see where
it goes. It was like, absolutely not. What was it supposed to
be. So they're supposed to be opening a bar, which was so insane
when they're having that conversation and he's like, oh, I'm doing fantastic opening
a bar in the valley called this right, you know, tune in if
you want to see all the you know, intricacies doing great raising my kid.
Things are awesome. So is there any sign of trouble in Paradise at
the beginning of this show? Oh? Yeah, a little? I mean,
well no, not really, it's just her Brittany just putting on a
show. You'd hate it even more because she's just like, I just I
don't know. I mean, I'd just think Christian should have baby, and
she wants to have baby, but she's forty and she deserves a baby.
Though, It's like, shut shut up. She's doing the thing like she's
just super mom. This is what she's been born to do. And she's
just sitting around with these other people we've never met, who all are even
worse. They're even worse than Jackson Brittany. There's I was maybe a little
interested to see Kristen because she's I've always found her entertaining, I guess would
be the way i'd put it. But even then I was it was awful.
It was awful. It was awful. She looks like there's nothing,
there's nothing positive. So you guys, save yourself the trouble, don't.
So that's gonna be our our Thursday show. We'll be covering that for now
on. It's like you just try to get me back. Listen, vander
Pum will get better. It will, it will get better. But also,
by the way, listen to you guys. We did for last week's
for our patreon, we we really wrapped up all the news about Love is
Blind and what's going on on Reddit and uh yeah, and then starting next
week we're going to be talking about quiet on the set. Oh my god,
oh my god. We've got some behind the scenes stories. Yes,
so please join our patreon to get all of that. Yeah, I can't.
I mean, this is this is something you don't want to miss.
It's disturbing, but we're going to break it down. Yeah, And like
I said, I worked for Nickelodeon for a period, a brief period of
time. So I have like a little bit of a little bit more like
behind the scenes tea, and I got slammed a lot. Yeah, because
I would go to the bath the well. Remember the well was right across
that from that Nickelodeon on sunset. Yes, remember that bar. I used
to always have birthday parties. Every time I would walk by from my own
birthday party, they just slim me. Why not. I'll tell you about
that. Yeah right, guys, Okay, I I