WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:05.960 Streamy Live. I mean I heard radio. This is Eye on the Ball 2 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:12.320 with Steve Rivera and Jacob Salez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome 3 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:15.679 back to the ball hero Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, here 4 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:21.199 Jenkins, and now we have Kevin with breaking news. All right, I 5 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:24.879 hate so yeah, just go. We're breaking news today. We're gonna start 6 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:31.079 with absolutely scathing report that I'm I'm looking at on MSN. But uh, 7 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:36.560 Katie Hobbs has come out and Governor Katie, Yeah, Governor Katie Hobbs has 8 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:39.880 come out and demanded a meeting with the Arizona Board of Regents and the University 9 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:45.159 of Arizona leadership, and she is accusing them of telling her false false reports 10 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:50.560 of being pretty much awful leaders and saying that they did not deserve to have 11 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.679 their jobs. She's mad. She's mad, well, she had already been 12 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:56.920 mad a month ago or a couple more mad, right, because they're kind 13 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.799 of she says, you guys relying to me of what the situation is. 14 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:03.680 The scathing statement is new facts have come to light that once again show the 15 00:01:03.680 --> 00:01:08.480 airzon A Board of Regions failed in their oversight role and highlight a university leadership 16 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.120 that was clueless as to their own finances. She should have news release, 17 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:18.079 a long, scathing news release. It's crystal clear that the handling of the 18 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:23.040 University of Arizona crisis is heading in the wrong direction, which means what I 19 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.120 mean, you can read whatever you want into it. Now she spends more 20 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:30.599 time shredding the border regions and particularly Fred Devall, the chair of the Board 21 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.480 of Regents. Obviously, you know, Bobby Robbins, the president of the 22 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:38.879 university, mentioned his name, but it's more of a There was apparently apparently 23 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:44.439 in a in a in a some sort of a meeting or whatever, Fred 24 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:51.439 Devall, she called it, threatened a faculty member who he felt had defamed 25 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.000 him, and a whole bunch of stuff. But she's pissed, she's really 26 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.719 pissed what's going on, and that she's the event that's not the solutions to 27 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:02.120 this right. So well, I think it's going to be this next couple 28 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:07.239 of months is going to be crazy. Yeah, politically and internally, Yeah, 29 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.199 somehow it needs it needs to be. You know, all this needs 30 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:15.199 to be fixed politically, financially and all these things and more to come. 31 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.520 We would need a whole show to get into the knee deep into in the 32 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:22.240 pressure. You. We have a lot of time, right, we have 33 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.759 time. She talked about the reputation of Arizona, the university of I'm not 34 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:30.400 a grad. You guys are grads, gonna be grads. How do you 35 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:32.560 feel about that? The reputation of this? It can be But but I 36 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:38.280 think you know, when when people outside of here hear about the university, 37 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:40.759 I mean, some here about this. You're hiring a football coach, like 38 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:45.719 director of people who know sports hear about this. But you know, does 39 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:51.560 the kid who's applying for school, who lives in Eugene or La or wherever 40 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:55.360 the universe is going to be here as long as they got classes and they 41 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:59.240 can get the degree that they want, and Arizona's got a good reputation, 42 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.319 A condemically, they don't give one crap about this. I think, yeah, 43 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.599 I would totally agree with your assessment of it, because I feel like 44 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.319 the majority of the people that are not in the state of Arizona that have 45 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.639 talked to me about this, it's a it's in a sports context. A 46 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.400 lot of them had no idea that we were actually in this crisis before we 47 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.800 hired Brett Brinnan, right, So I totally agree. I think maybe locally 48 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:23.680 the reputation is in a grave peril, but I don't think nationally at all. 49 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.840 Well, and people who live here they want they don't want the university 50 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.599 to look bad in any respect. Right, there's and there's plenty of stuff 51 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:36.280 for a university at Arizona or wherever, playing of opportunities to look bad in 52 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:40.199 various aspects of the university. But this is not specific to athletics either. 53 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:43.560 No, this is not this is not specific athletics. But what I'm saying 54 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:47.080 is that we hear are paying attention to this, and we hate it. 55 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.439 I hate this. I hate that this is happening. You know, there's 56 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:53.400 a whole lot of pieces to it. My whole family, all five of 57 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:55.759 us are graduates of the U of A. Sure you know, well, 58 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:00.919 and one is an employee, right one and one is an employee, And 59 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:05.360 so I hate that. You know that this is happening, and that locally 60 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:12.120 it's making the u A and its leadership not look so great. But but 61 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:15.400 outside of here, I don't know how much it really impacts whether or not 62 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.480 a kid is gonna or a parent is gonna let their kid come to the 63 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:21.879 juo A uh, you know, because they've still got a great medical school. 64 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:25.800 They've got a great, you know, biosciences program, they've got a 65 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:31.079 great uh, you know, astronomy program. All these things, those things 66 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:33.079 that matter. And if you can get a degree from the u of A 67 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:36.560 in one of those areas, you're doing great, you know, optical sciences, 68 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:42.240 all those things. So no, I I think it's uh. I 69 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.360 think it's really when people are thinking about jo A and looking at this in 70 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:49.120 a bad way. It's more local, maybe even statewide, but not beyond 71 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:53.360 that. Yeah, I totally agree. Okay, so we do have some 72 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:58.439 more positive news. Okay, the Arizona Wildcats have swept the Pack twelve weekly 73 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:02.160 awards for women's basketball is as as Marie Martinez has been named the PAC twelve 74 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.399 Player of the Week and Jada Williams has been named the PAC twelve Freshman of 75 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:10.600 the Week. Well deserved right to go up go to the Bay Area and 76 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.720 sweep beat beat Stanford up there for the first time in twenty years or so. 77 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.920 Again, as we talked about, I didn't I didn't even give that 78 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:24.279 game a whiff on Friday night, think and you know, I really didn't 79 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.959 want to see Arizona to go up there and get ripped. And then they 80 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:29.680 I find out after the fact that they won the game. Yeah, I 81 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:30.879 mean I was the same way. I was out and about with some friends 82 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.560 and I got the notification on my phone that it was went final and I 83 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:35.560 gathered everybody. I was like, can you believe this? Look at my 84 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.879 phone right now, it's unavable. But yeah, they had a great weekend. 85 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:43.120 Martinez had a twenty point triple double to follow that game up to really 86 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.839 solidify, and then they blasted Cali yesterday. Yeah, and you know, 87 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.480 I was thinking, is Cal really bad? But they Cal was one game 88 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:54.399 worse both overall and then the Pac twelve standing, so it wasn't like Arizona. 89 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:56.959 You know, Cal like at the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, 90 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:00.000 you know, it'd be interesting to see if Arizona is and play at all 91 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:05.920 at all for for people. Look still, they're hoping, right, and 92 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:10.680 you know you beat used to. You was telling us here coming to town 93 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:14.879 this week toughly until you do something stupid and beat them. Now maybe you're 94 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.560 maybe you're talking right. And it's just so strange because you see this team 95 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.279 that's that's you know, doesn't have a full roster in any sort of way, 96 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:25.319 right, uh, And the roster is up and down in many different 97 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:27.680 ways. And you see that they have success like they had this weekend, 98 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.600 and it makes you think like they had a full roster of just anyone. 99 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:35.639 But yeah, speaking of that roster, so, Arizona Athletics announced that the 100 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:41.519 Wildcats are going to add Brooklyn Roads from Saint Louis, Missouri. It's unclear 101 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.079 if she's gonna play at the tail end of this season or if she's just 102 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:48.079 gonna roll into next season if she has any eligibility, but yeah, so 103 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.160 the player from Saint Louis is going to join the roster. Well again, 104 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:56.879 you can, yeah, you can join it mid year. Now, when 105 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.680 Maddy Maddy Connor semester, it was mid semester. And when Maddy Connor did 106 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:05.560 it, she wasn't jeopardizing a year of eligibility because it was during the COVID 107 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:10.000 year, so she could she joined the for you know, Arizona for that 108 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.759 second half of that season, but it didn't count against her eligibility. So 109 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:16.800 it's okay, if if this player comes in and joins them, you know, 110 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.160 it'll count for some eligibility, so it'll be interesting to see what they 111 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:24.439 do. But they need bodies, i mean, seven people players to go 112 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.199 through to you know, the end of the years is tough. Are you 113 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.519 gonna talk about what happened on Twitter just now? Just with them? We 114 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:35.839 don't, we don't for any information. Okay, we have more positive news. 115 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:44.120 The softball team swept for the twenty second time in twenty eight weekend tournaments. 116 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.800 They've they've completed the sweep. Uh. And they are fifteen and one 117 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:51.079 now on the season, fifteen or six and I saw sixteen maybe maybe, 118 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:55.279 So you're talking about the Hillbrown. Yeah, they swept. It's always good 119 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:58.959 to bring people into your own tournament coming out. They'll feed you the food. 120 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.040 They are. They are sick teen and one. Uh. They the 121 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.360 one ranked team that they played, they Arkansas. They split with them, 122 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.439 so you know, let's take it with a grain of salt. But Indiana's 123 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:11.439 supposed to be you know, Indiana's a decent program, and they they beat 124 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:16.120 them twice, including a fourteen inning game on Saturday night. And you can 125 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:20.879 only play with teams ahead of your right. But they've got h they've got 126 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.240 the Crimson Classics. So they're going to Alabama, uh this coming weekend to 127 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.759 play Uh. They got Northern I with two games with Alabama and Northern I 128 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.240 or twice two games with Alabama and then South Alabama. So they'll be on 129 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.720 the road for a little bit there. That's all I had for Arizona centric 130 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.759 stuff for today. I have this Wonders the rankings. Yeah, we took 131 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:43.120 a place on dude. Well, I was gonna end with the rankings because 132 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.600 we had some other Yeah, one other thing I wanted to say to Jay, 133 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.120 and I thought he'd find this funny, so it came out the Philip 134 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.879 House. He did not have any sort of limp during his media time recently, 135 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:58.039 but apparently he is quote still a bit sore. Uh. And there's 136 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.200 no sort of structural damage, no, no tests needed, but he is 137 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.840 still a bit sore. Are we worried for him? Jase? You know 138 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.559 if we had if we had audio effects here, I would ask you to 139 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.960 play the crime baby. Reminded me of the Trevor Lawrence saga exactly with you, 140 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.399 Okay, because I get we can't play a zoo they kicked our asses 141 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:20.639 because that really doesn't Well, yeah, that's all we got That's how we 142 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:22.000 have. That's all we have, all right, I do, I do 143 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:28.519 have a piece. Your friend Don Brown and his and his and his U 144 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:31.600 mass what are they the Patriots or the Musketeers? What's going on? They're 145 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:37.840 joining the Mid American Conference coming up. Yeah, they've they've been voted in 146 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.480 including football, so they've been a they've been an independent the last couple of 147 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.799 years. But they are now in the MAC starting for the twenty twenty five 148 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.759 twenty twenty six academic year, so not this coming year, but next season. 149 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.919 So the Don Brown and his boys going over the going over to the 150 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:58.639 MAC Conference. Did you have that? Leaves only Yukon as an independent now 151 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.679 because Army's gotten in to a league, Navy's in the league. All these 152 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:07.559 teams have gotten into leagues. Did you see that that Peter King is yes, 153 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.320 football football Morning and assuming you met him at some point, Steve, 154 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:15.440 Yeah, the final horse and yeah, yeah, a long time a side 155 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.799 guy. Yeah, and uh it's NFL insider. Yeah, he's older than 156 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:22.360 both of us and one of the good guys. Yeah, he has been 157 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:26.840 Uh you know, if you follow his Monday Morning quarterback call him uh for 158 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.120 for for football, you know, he's done a great job with that. 159 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.600 He's calling it. He's just retiring from that. You know, he's still 160 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.559 gonna be around. He's just gonna do that. Every time I read that 161 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.159 comment that that's a damn lot of work you gotta put into that, you 162 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.240 know. Yeah, so you guys want to talk about the rankings. Houston 163 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.399 has hit number one for the first time this season. Not surprised. I 164 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:52.879 love I love them. I love them. They just played tough and you 165 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.200 watch them, it's like that's a basketball. They are champions. They are 166 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:03.240 my champion. Kelvin is due. He's gotten really old. No, yes, 167 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:09.679 yes, he's gotta be still kind of cool the way you walk you 168 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:11.960 out, But yeah, he's you know, obviously we're all through. How 169 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:18.159 about you're old doubles? How about how about how about the voter the voted 170 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.080 a su number ten. You see that, No, Washington got some votes. 171 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.840 Yeah, somebody, some guy out of the out of our passo. 172 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:31.519 I'm sure it was an accident, right, but gave as you would vote 173 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.159 at number ten and coming on Twitter obviously, oh yeah, because you know, 174 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:39.480 because there's always people in the guard to check who's voted for who at 175 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.879 somebody said that ac you got to vote for number ten in the ring. 176 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:48.799 Probably I did the math and it didn't They wouldn't have moved up. Okay, 177 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.240 they wouldn't have moved up. And who is there's enough of a gap. 178 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.720 Who's the other one? You said to issue issue? And then there 179 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.559 Washington, Washington, Washington got like a couple. And then Washington State went 180 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:05.480 up twelve spots to somebody. Yeah from somebody went moved up, moved up 181 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.919 to all spots in somebody's ballot. I guess they didn't see that. They 182 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.919 got their asses kicks Saturday. These poles are just what they are, and 183 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.639 everyone's ahold, no one, no one knows enough. Yeah, yeah, 184 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.279 I watched the state did move up to spots. There's a beating in Arizona. 185 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.720 But especially if you didn't stay up and see that a su just handed 186 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.480 their butts on Saturday. You know which which weighs more? Right, there's 187 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.759 on to win ways a little a little more, especially it being a road 188 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:35.480 wind. So anyways, I thought that was funny. Gonzaga back in the 189 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:39.879 back in the rank. Right, they're on the bubble too, is there 190 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.679 on the bubble? They played well lately, but they were on the bubble 191 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:45.120 for one of those. They're one of those four four. They're actually one 192 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.240 of the Jerry Palms. Last four in still last four in for him right 193 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:54.799 now Old Miss Gonzaga, Utah, and wake Forest the first four out Texas, 194 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.840 Seaton Hall, Providence in Oregon. And I think he has Arizona and 195 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:03.240 the two line now he does. He has Arizona. He has Arizona as 196 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.080 the West second seed and North Carolina now as the West first. I think 197 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:11.960 still as one. There's one. There's three of them, and I think 198 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.519 Paul is the only one that has them. Yeah, that was them there, 199 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.240 and it's it's, uh, it's a dicey thing like they're right four 200 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.200 or five. Yeah, you know, I mean Arizona. Let's say, 201 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.679 you know, I don't see them losing two. I could see them losing 202 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.600 one, right and then you know, we'll see what happens, you know, 203 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.799 from there on, because other teams, you know, the Roth Carolina 204 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:35.320 Tennessee. Tennessee's got a good spot there if they go for to one, 205 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:41.120 have a tough schedule. It's not just about Arizona can't look good last night. 206 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.200 They're on the they're on the two line now. So you know, 207 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.879 I don't know. Well, we'll see Kansas. You know, Kansas beat 208 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.120 up on the hell did they beat up on? I don't know. I 209 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.919 remember tonight's as some pretty good game. Baylor Teah North Carolina. We had 210 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:00.519 a minute. So what do you got anything else? I was okay, 211 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.200 cool, cool, I think we're good, right right, yeah, yeah, 212 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:07.159 just go side, great catch break. We'll get Greg Hanson. We're 213 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.320 going to talk about We'll talk about a lot of stuff, but one of 214 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.799 the things is he in his Sunday Communes, they spend a good amount of 215 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:18.759 time talking about desiree read Francois than you. That's like Directorate Arizona. So 216 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.200 we'll talk got Greg about that as well as court storming. All right, 217 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.320 we'll be right back. 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Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen 284 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:14.319 fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jagon's all same. We got our guy, 285 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.200 Kevin here Man in the phones. We're phone. Yeah, we're waiting 286 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.359 for Greg any second now and he'll be on. We'll talk about his column 287 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:27.079 from yesterday about the new ad and then other things we sat together on Saturday. 288 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.440 Jay, We're gonna bring up a topic that I thought was interesting. 289 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.839 Okay, we'll see. Well, you should be calling us here any second. 290 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:36.440 Okay if he's sitting by his phone. Otherwise, you know, you 291 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.599 never know, he could get on the eighteenth hole or something, or the 292 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:47.559 nineteenth hole or something. But yeah, no, IoT, I thought Greg's 293 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:51.119 call him yesterday if he still does a Sunday Column's funny. I saw him 294 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.480 at the basketball game. I told him, you do realize you have to 295 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:57.359 write that column up until you die, because it's got to be there for 296 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.279 the rest of us every week. And you know, speaking of Peter King's 297 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.039 you know, call him. I mean that I tried doing something like that 298 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:07.039 when I was you know, I did a call him for and doing a 299 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.319 notes column like that's really hard. He probably had to do that. I 300 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.839 did it for a page a page of stuff. It was the notebook let 301 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:18.680 go everything dropped. One of those is a little story. But that that 302 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:22.599 that you gotta do, you know, kind of. I don't know if 303 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.039 you remember this. I used to my page. I used to call celebrities 304 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.759 too. Were at Arizona Connections and I called mister the Herman Munster not Herman 305 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.119 Munster, the grandpa Pa because he was at an U and m Arizona game 306 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.559 and I said, what are your thoughts? And he was great because he 307 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:40.400 was a good basketball fan, the grandfather and the Adams final. Yeah yeah, 308 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:42.920 yeah, oh that's right. I remember him. He was a huge 309 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:48.240 yeah, huge basketball. Yeah. Okay, here here here we go, 310 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.240 Greg, is this shoe? Yeah? How do you do it? Greg 311 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.079 Hanson? Sorry, Jay had to wake you up? Oh no kidding. 312 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.960 Now you're coming off the eighteenth forward. You're even golf in the ring, 313 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:06.480 don't you. Yeah, well it's not windy. When when is the Curson? 314 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:11.319 Yeah? That's the key. So Jay's we have you on today? 315 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:14.559 Saw you call him yesterday? Yeah, Well, you know, I was 316 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:18.880 trying to think of the probably five or six people in the whole city who 317 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.440 have been up close in personal with all the ads back to Cedric Dempsey, 318 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:23.880 and I think you're one of them. So I thought I would just kind 319 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:29.079 of get your take on, you know, the new ad. Tell us 320 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:33.039 first what you think are her. We know the financial thing is a big 321 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.519 challenge, but being the AD at Arizona, you know, what is that? 322 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:41.960 What do you think that's like? And particularly today compared to you know, 323 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.599 a few years ago or even back to that said Dempsey days, I 324 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:49.799 think there's a lot to live up to because probably for at least forty years, 325 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:55.400 Arizona's had the best athletic directors in the PAC twelve, one after another 326 00:21:55.480 --> 00:22:00.519 after another, and not just good athletic directors, but like star level athletic 327 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:06.480 directors. You compare that to USC who's had three of their former football coaches. 328 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:11.000 They were all clunkers. And you compared the UCLA they had for almost 329 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:15.759 thirty five years. They had Peter Dallas and Dan Guerrero and two more clunkers. 330 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:22.720 Yeah, and they've under both underperformed because I think they had in athletic 331 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:26.680 directors in Arizona hasn't done hasn't done that they've hired well, yeah, I 332 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.480 think the only other school that made I could be wrong with you, Greg 333 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:36.400 Oregon Oregon, because those guys have left other bigger jobs. You know, 334 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:40.480 if you ask me to pick, say that the best four athletic directors in 335 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:45.359 this league since it started, I would pick Mike Leude of Washington easily, 336 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:51.279 Cedric Dempsey of Arizona easily, Bill Muse of Oregon he was a big time 337 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:57.440 and Ted Leland is Stanford, both for standalone in my opinion, and you 338 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:03.720 know, and close after that, you know, Greg byrne is, Look, 339 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.880 Arizona has now hired two athletic directors from the SEC. That's unreal, 340 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:12.240 isn't it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Greg Burn, Greg Burn and 341 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:17.200 Francois? Were you How surprised were you at the hire? Did you? 342 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:21.559 Had you heard anything about her before that? And again then you heard she's 343 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:25.559 coming from the SEC. How'd you react to that? You know, I 344 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.359 was texting with Jeff Stevens, who's probably the number one donor in school history, 345 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.079 and he brought her name up and I had never thought of her until 346 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:38.480 that minute. Yeah, and even though Stevens wasn't involved this time, right 347 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:41.759 away I thought, Yep, you got to do the opposite. You can't 348 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:47.319 hire another guy like Dave Ikey, who was fully qualified, but the old 349 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:52.039 school guy. And she's the opposite. And isn't that what they usually do 350 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.720 when they head coaches hire the opposite? Yep? And man getting somebody from 351 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:03.799 the SEC with all of her history at Tennessee and Virginia Tech and on down 352 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.680 the line. And to me, that was on paper about as good as 353 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.000 you can hope for well, and none of us have really gotten a chance 354 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.759 to, you know, know her. She hasn't been here very long, 355 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.720 but you know, what are your initial thoughts on what we've seen so far? 356 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:26.839 Communicator which wasn't Dave's strength. She's got the Greg burn Jean in her 357 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:33.559 and that's needed right now. She's got to be a fundraiser. Maybe she 358 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:38.759 can get Jeff Stevens back, right you know, Stevens hasn't donated because he's 359 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:44.680 at odds with Bobby Robbins. And if they could get him back, maybe 360 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:51.920 they could really start working on digging down the debt service. And I mean 361 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:53.759 she just seems like a person you want to like and want to be around. 362 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.759 Yeah, no question. I think that somebody's got to find a way 363 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:03.880 to get Moreno Beck, he'd be another Wow, you know, maybe she 364 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.000 is. She is the person. Uh, we'll see, because if you 365 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:11.920 have Stevens and Modeno here, your problems could get solved pretty easily. Wow. 366 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:17.640 Mareno. But the funny why he stepped away. He stepped away because 367 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.079 Greg Byrne had gone to a s U. That's amazing. I had never 368 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.799 heard that people on their money. People. I'm just gonna say, I 369 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:32.079 don't blame him, but I'd never heard that Burne didn't go to SU to 370 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:33.599 be a sun devil. He was the last guy you'd think was the sun 371 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:41.039 devil. He went because his girlfriend left their people on their money. So, 372 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.359 I don't know if you've seen with Katie Hobbs, the governor is really 373 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.160 mad at the U of A. How does that? How do you think 374 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:53.920 stuff like that will filter down to athletics or does it? To me, 375 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.160 the only way it would filter down is if she puts so much heat on 376 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:03.200 the Board of Regents that to cover their own rear ends they fire Bobby Robbins, 377 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.720 I agree, totally agree, But I think that I think that Jay 378 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:14.920 and Greg a month ago, six weeks ago, I think at least we 379 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.119 thought he was gone anyway, he was going to be gone. I think 380 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:22.000 it's just a matter of time. Whether it's time means anything, but in 381 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:25.519 time. I don't know if you want to agree with that, but that's 382 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:30.599 what I say. Yeah, I would say his contract expires next summer. 383 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.799 I would say the odds are pretty good that they just won't renew it. 384 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.680 If anything else right, maybe they wouldn't fire him, like kind of like 385 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.720 when Robert Shelton left, he just didn't renew his contract. Yeah, I 386 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.519 mean, and I like him, and we might be having him on the 387 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.960 show later this week, And I've always liked him. He's a really smart 388 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.359 guy. But you have to admit that things haven't gone well. There's been 389 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.599 a lot of mistakes the last couple of years, and whether they give him 390 00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.519 a chance to rectify all that stuff remains to be seen. But yeah, 391 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:03.880 he certainly been good for athletics, don't you think, Oh wow? You 392 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.960 know when hekey was building you know about a million dollar, one hundred million 393 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:12.039 dollars worth of projects from the from the Zona Zeus area of the stadium to 394 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:17.799 the David Center to redoing the indoor of McHale Center and swimming facility in the 395 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:23.240 softball stadium. Robins was aligned with him to spend all that money. Yeah, 396 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:29.720 So it wasn't Hekey piloted on. It was Robin's approval and it just 397 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.839 caught up with him that maybe they didn't think it would catch up with them 398 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.279 because every other school in the league was doing the same thing, right, 399 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.319 but because the administration here had financial troubles, then it came to light more 400 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.759 well. Also to ask you that because I've asked this to Jay and I'll 401 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.000 Poliastis of the president of Fronday if he does come, If he does come 402 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.759 on that. Okay, Arizona has its its issues. It's become public. 403 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.039 What's the thing that other schools like Arizona don't have the same issues? Do 404 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:03.680 you just have him become public? I think that could be a lot of 405 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.400 it. You can't tell me. Oregon State, which just spent two hundred 406 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.599 million dollars to redo Reser Stadium the football stadium, doesn't have the same kind 407 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:17.519 of athletic debt that Arizona does, or Washington State. Washington State, And 408 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.880 I read this today when waiting for you to call. They had more than 409 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:26.119 seventy five million dollars of athletic debt a year ago. And can you imagine 410 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.200 what UCLA's athletic debt is, Well, it was thirty seven million last year. 411 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.440 It was I'm not trying to excuse it, but that's just the way 412 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:40.559 the PAC twelve is gone, with its low level TV meteorized money. Well, 413 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:44.160 isn't that one of the reasons why they jump ship? Yeah? That 414 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.519 was why the USC and you sort of got out. Yeah, and then 415 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.480 Oregon and Oregon State didn't. You didn't want to get along on thirty one 416 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.480 million a year. Let's talk about something that you and I sat down and 417 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:57.920 talking about Saturday. So we were talking about this team, be Arizona basketball 418 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.000 team. And I've been around a long time cover a lot of teams. 419 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:06.480 Jay, Greg has two So I you, Jay, where does this rank? 420 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:10.640 And we won't we won't tease. Where do you think this team ranks 421 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:15.839 among the last since loots teams? You know? Wait, wait, no, 422 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.599 no, no, I want Jake, because you and I you and 423 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:19.960 I talked to Greg, So I want to ask Jay, where does it 424 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:22.559 rank? Oh God, I could probably think of a whole bunch of teams 425 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.119 that are better than Well that's that's the that's what we talked about. We 426 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.599 Greg and I Greg said this is probably not even the top fifteen. I 427 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.839 think you hold by that, right, Greg. Oh yeah. And after 428 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.880 I got home that day, I went through and I listed seventeen seventeen teams 429 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.279 and I wouldn't disagree with that. Sewn Sean's thirteen fourteen or fourteen fifty six, 430 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:49.799 seventeen four of them for them. Yeah, so that's four. And 431 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.920 Luke had one of Tommy's one of Tommy's okay, five, that's five. 432 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:02.039 And then lut had ten in about twelve teams. Yeah, there were a 433 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.000 whole bun. Doesn't that enlighten you? Well, yeah it does. But 434 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.039 but you also have to and if you're talking about if you know, are 435 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:11.880 you talking about if they would play against each other? Just how? Or 436 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.319 are you talking about how? Yeah, because you know it. But one 437 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.440 of the things is that you have taken to con is that it's different, 438 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:21.279 right, He's getting different players, you know every year. Now, Lute 439 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:22.559 had some of that stuff with the one and duns and there were a few 440 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.640 of those too, but not as many as even Sean had, Right, 441 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:33.160 So I think it's a lot different lout had Chris Mills was a fifty year 442 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.720 senior here. Can you imagine a player as good as Chris, he'd be 443 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.079 the National Player of the year now, yeah, right, and that was 444 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.000 not uncommon for LUDE to have a guy like that. Chris Mills had been 445 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.519 around forever. Yeah. Well, Brian Williams, Ryan Williams, there's another 446 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.599 one, La Wood, Lauren Wood. Yeah. Yeah, but I think 447 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.680 it's fair and a fair assessment to top fifteen at the best at the best, 448 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.559 Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I would think they're 449 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.240 they're still they're winning the crapload of games still, and there's more a lot 450 00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.039 of games ahead of them, so it's it's it's even hard to tell. 451 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.079 I would say I'd want to see how this team finishes before I ranked them 452 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:17.079 somewhere. I agree with that, but I also would add that I think 453 00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:21.279 this is a historically bad PAC twelve this year. Yeah, no question. 454 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.400 It ranks up there with Remember the couple of years Cal won the league title 455 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:30.000 about ten years ago. Wasn't Montgomery the head coach? Yeah? And they 456 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:36.599 had. There was about a two year period there where Cal won the league, 457 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.640 and this year is getting close to being that bad. I think. 458 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:44.599 I think back to the eighty six eighty seven season when UCLA and Arizona are 459 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:45.920 the only ones that got in, and there are a lot of people who 460 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.519 thought Arizona shouldn't have gotten in that in that year, and I remember Reggie 461 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.240 Miller actually up being pissed that Arizona got it. Was it forty eight or 462 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:59.960 sixty four? Then six? It was sixty four, sixty four and forty 463 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.000 eight. So there was the first in the second round here and it was 464 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.319 there were eight teams here. Yeah, it was a sixty four and the 465 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.960 first round. How was the game attended the next couple of days because thereon 466 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.440 was not in anymore? Right? Oh yeah, it was u tap utep 467 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:19.599 advanced and LSU and who else was here that utip An l Cu and I 468 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.759 can't remember who the other other ones? Did anybody go yeah it was okay? 469 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:28.799 But that's that was when I when I developed the opinion that Arizona that 470 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.880 basketball fans here are Arizona fans. That was no question. Not basketball fans, 471 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.599 they're Arizona fans. Not basketball question because it wasn't I remember it wasn't 472 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.960 full, but there were still a lot of people here. Kay were you 473 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:47.039 were you sitting with me? And on the days of Reggie Miller said Arizona 474 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.319 got in only because they're athletic directors on the selection panel. Yes, yeah, 475 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.880 yeah, yeah, yeah. We were at that press conference. Yeah, 476 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:59.680 and he was probably right. No, yeah, yeah, I mean 477 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.880 nobody thought they should. They were, but they were like eighteen and twelve 478 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.240 or something like that, in a bad league and bounced out in the first 479 00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:12.039 round of the first Packed Buff tournament. All four Pack twelve teams lost in 480 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:16.240 the first round. We were in Albuquerque that weekend and all four Packed ten 481 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.720 teams lost that weekend. Yeah, it was it was pretty bad. As 482 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.960 I recall, Well, we'll see what happens when only two teams get in 483 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:29.160 this year, and if they're gonna be bouncing the first day, Yeah, 484 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.400 I don't think there's any way that Ducks or UCLA can snake in. Now. 485 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.200 That's been tough. Yeah, unless they win the put me, unless 486 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:40.400 they win the conference time tournament title. Yeah yeah, yeah, because Arizonna 487 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:45.039 have another loss in them. I was thinking today that they would lose at 488 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:50.240 least one. I mean, do you think they can sweep that La trip? 489 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.519 That's also games tall, I don't. I think UL is going to 490 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.400 have them have them. That's always you know how it is. It's always 491 00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:01.000 a huge game there, huge game there, and UCLA sometimes shows up sometimes 492 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:07.079 sometimes. Yeah, and if they if Mick Cronin could play his slowdown style 493 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:13.719 in that game sixty three sixty two games to exactly, and it's not like 494 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.840 they're bad, they just just aren't playing good or well yeah yeah, okay, 495 00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.280 well Greg, thanks for joining us. Yeah, thanks for asking. 496 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:28.960 Man, appreciate it. Stay dry Greeg handsome from the Daily Star. Yeah, 497 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.360 that's fun, good stuff. Again. You know, just guy's been 498 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:36.280 here since the early eighties, so then tell you he's retired now forty plus 499 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.599 years, but you know again forty one, he's got your eighty three. 500 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:43.519 Yeah so no, no, he knows all those eighties all the way back. 501 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.159 I thought that was an interesting so why so you I know, but 502 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.039 we're not as old as Greg. No, thanks for pointing, Well you 503 00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.159 weren't here. Were you here for for a lot of years? Yeah? 504 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:57.000 All right, I thought he was. To me, he's my fees. 505 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.760 I like Jim Aton, but but said it was like, you know, 506 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.559 just your grad podcast. Yea, yeah, he was just still getting royalty 507 00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.480 exactly exactly. Okay, all right, let's take our last break. 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Come be a part of a winning team the A 550 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:17.000 Team apply online today at a team security dot net. Streaming live on the 551 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:22.400 iHeartRadio WAP. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez 552 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.599 on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back to Win in the Ball 553 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.559 Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jiggins ows. I 554 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:35.800 think we've got a call. We do have a calling. We do. 555 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.239 Hi, how are you? Is this Kevin Lehman? It is? How 556 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.880 are you guys? Fine? Have you been listening to us? I haven't. 557 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.320 Just a really couple of quick things, and you can ask me something 558 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:51.519 that you want. But number one, I thought you guys really broke down 559 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:57.639 the Washington State game beautifully. If you asked me what you said, I 560 00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.639 probably can't remember, but I remember thinking while that was spot on. The 561 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:07.239 other thing real quickly about the new athletic director. I don't know who asked 562 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.800 the question, why did you move from the SEC to Arizona? And she 563 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.920 gave a five star answer and she said, well, actually was a matter 564 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.599 of the heart. When she said that, my ears went back and up 565 00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.480 at the same time, and I said, boy, I want to hear 566 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:23.159 this. And she went on and shared the story of her younger brother, 567 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:30.280 I think it was, who ended up a quadriplegic in junior college football. 568 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.239 And she told the story about the professors at the u of A in law 569 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:40.320 school and the dean who not only came around her but continued to come around 570 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.360 her. And my guess is she's going to be our ad for a very 571 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:52.320 very long time. I just spoke Sunday at Zion City Church and Tucson and 572 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.440 they asked me to speak on encouraging one another. And I made the point 573 00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:00.280 that you know praise. Everybody thinks praise is good. Well, praises actually 574 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.880 destructive with people. But we won't go into that in detail. But it's 575 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.840 short lived, it's shallow. But when you encourage someone, you come around 576 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:13.280 them and you stay with them, and it's the action you do. But 577 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.440 I think it's the action that those professors did a long time ago in her 578 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:21.360 life. This is gonna make her an ad here for a long long time. 579 00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.239 Well, yeah, I think she's gonna be a good one. We're 580 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:29.400 going to have tomorrow. The Saint Louis columnist who covered her back in the 581 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:30.920 day. He's the one to introduce me to her last year at the tournament, 582 00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.679 so I wanted to get his insight up, and she was here, 583 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.440 you know, this is home. I asked her that question because nobody asked 584 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.360 her the why and when you all ask why, and she was great with 585 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.920 that answer. I agree with you totally. So can we switch gears real 586 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.280 quick? And I'm gonna have you and Greg, you and Jay answer this. 587 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.320 So you've been a long time Arizona fan. You're a Buffalo fan back 588 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.760 in the day. But let me say this. Sports are fickle, and 589 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:59.840 if you're a fan, you die every season because they don't get to where 590 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:05.320 you want to get. How many times have you been pleased with the result 591 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:10.199 that they gave you? I'm telling you basketball? Does that make sense? 592 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:19.280 Yeah? You go first. Oh, you're you're asking me to be personal. 593 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.239 Well, you know, sports, you know you live and die. 594 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:28.880 I mean I sit here and watch on my phone our girls' softball team, 595 00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.039 our boys baseball team. I'm about as red as blue as you get. 596 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.519 I mean, I've had a license plate that says that ASU, that says 597 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:42.079 a lot you live and die, and a Buffalo bill fan. I died 598 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:46.960 four times back in the nineties in the Super Bowl. But I don't know. 599 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:52.320 I don't know about you guys, but I'm in mourning right now because 600 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.039 football is over. Now, we got the draft that we can talk about 601 00:41:55.039 --> 00:42:00.239 the draft coming, but I'm I sort of molt like a bird until till 602 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:07.599 late July when they exhibition camp start. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm 603 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:09.840 the same way. And I'm talking about basketball specific here in Arizona. How 604 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:15.199 many times have you been okay, I can deal with it. Never well, 605 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:22.599 I usually am okay with it, you know, I really am. 606 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.960 Yeah, you know to me, you know, in the I mean, 607 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.559 in the immediacy of a tournament, being eliminated from the tournament, you're going, 608 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.840 what the hell? You didn't get as far as we thought. But 609 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.360 you know, if you're a reasonable guy like me, right, Kevin, 610 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.280 it's your reasonable guy like me, after the fact, will go Okay, 611 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:44.800 that seemed to me in most cases about as far as they were going to 612 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.880 get. And there are a bunch of times of that. But likewise, 613 00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:51.800 there's a bunch of times you go, dude, you that that doesn't cut 614 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.840 it. Princeton didn't cut it. Santa Clair didn't cut it. These Tennessee 615 00:42:53.880 --> 00:43:00.280 State didn't cut it. But when they beat Duke in twenty eleven and came 616 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.159 within a Jamel Horn three pointer of getting to the final four, you got 617 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.119 way further than we thought, right, you got to this. There's a 618 00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:12.159 couple of those you thought, you know, remember the Chase the year Chase 619 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.360 Buddinger and they got through the sweet sixteen with a not very good team. 620 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.159 So there have been years like that where you go, you've gone above and 621 00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:21.960 beyond. Then most of the time it's kind of like, okay, that 622 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.960 was about it, right, Well, first year, so you thought, 623 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.880 you know, we thought, you know, Okay, if you just said 624 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.159 at the beginning of the year, you gave me the lead eight or you 625 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:36.320 get into the sweet sixteen, I'd say, sign me up. So there 626 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.840 are times like that. Yeah, well, I remember the Illinois game. 627 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:43.639 I was on the phone talking to American Airlines. I don't know what year 628 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.920 that that was, but I was making my reservations, right and Illinois beats 629 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:53.079 us and the Prince then's of course hurt. I mean that hurts everybody. 630 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:59.719 But if you ask people across the board, name the top ten basketball powers 631 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.880 Arizona's in the top ten, So what are you gonna do complain about that? 632 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.159 Now you're a fan, You come back next year and hope springs eternal. 633 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.639 Yeah, no, I think that. I think that most of the 634 00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.920 time you're in the end, you're okay with where they got to. But 635 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.880 there are obviously times that they're not, and obviously times that they got way 636 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.719 ahead. So okay, I'll ask that question again before the tournament starts. 637 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.119 How far do you think these guys are going to get? What's the record 638 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.000 comes out? Hey, Kevin, thanks for calling, Thanks for listening. 639 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.599 You're welcome. You guys do a great job. I want to listen to 640 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.920 appreciate it. So you knew where I was going with a yeah, yeah, 641 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.119 no, And again you know we we we still don't know where this 642 00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.960 team is going to wind up. Right, If they get to the leading, 643 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.239 is that okay? That okay? Is that okay? Right? I 644 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.559 think yeah? I think so. It depends how how they get there and 645 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.440 who they lose to and blah blah blah. But they're gonna be a one 646 00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:59.639 or two expectations again, a thing you're a wonder or two you're you're if 647 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.039 you're a you're seeded into the final four. If you're too, you're seated 648 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.199 into the lead eight. Sure, So you know, I think I think 649 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.679 you know, if there are one or two the expectations you got to get 650 00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:14.280 to the lead eight. If you if you if you flame out at the 651 00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:16.599 at the sweet sixteen, that's a that's a game short of where you should 652 00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:21.960 have gotten. And to me, the ones in the twos, they're sort 653 00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.679 of all especially this year, especially outside of maybe a Yukon and Houston. 654 00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:30.159 Yeah, just because you're on the one line doesn't mean you should get to 655 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:31.800 the foot floor. You know. Well, I think that was the case 656 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.880 with Tommy two years ago. They're on the one line, but you didn't 657 00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.400 see TCU like they were and used them like they were because you thought that 658 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.400 Arizona was built for it and they just weren't and against you. This is 659 00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:46.840 another year, This is another one of those years that we're going to say, 660 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.719 did their conference prepare them? What's the answer right now? No, 661 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.880 exactly exactly, And that's a great point because it hasn't. It hasn't, 662 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.119 it never does. You're right, when when was the last time it did? 663 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:05.079 Ninety seven? Yeah, ninety seven, right, two thousand and one, 664 00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.320 maybe by but there were so talented in two thousand and one. But 665 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.840 I don't even remember those season. The game in game out that the PAC 666 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:15.199 twelve was a hard It was a hard game two thousand and one. And 667 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:16.679 there was a lot of circumstances, you know, Bobby had passed, Lot 668 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:21.360 was out, Jim took over. There was a lot of circumstances internally, 669 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.280 But no ninety seven. Yeah, because they got their butt kick left two 670 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:28.039 games when they finished fifth in the league. Yeah, yeah, and then 671 00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.400 they just showed up for three weeks. Yeah. I don't know, that's 672 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:35.440 all you need, right, three weeks maybe six bullets avoid six bullet exactly 673 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.880 exactly. It's it's a burning question, the burning question at this time of 674 00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.719 the year every single year. You know, how far do they need to 675 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.800 get for you to not be unhappy? And for some people Steve every year 676 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:50.920 at the final four every year, no matter of course, those are the 677 00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.559 delusional ones, no matter what. Take this call. Hi, you're on 678 00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:58.800 the R and I on the ball. Hey guys, how you doing? 679 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:05.360 Howard? What a treat having Hanson on And then doctor Lehman enjoyed that a 680 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.000 couple of good, cool guys. So what's gonna be your your your peak 681 00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:14.079 for Arizona and if they get beyond that more power teeth. Well, remember 682 00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:19.559 we were I already h told said this. I said, I need we 683 00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.800 need the grade eight for the program and for me, which is I guess 684 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:30.159 realistic jet Yeah, I think that's the realistic number. Yeah, too bad. 685 00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:34.400 The internet that went down over at the casino there on Friday, because 686 00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:36.840 I went over and I wouldn't have known there was a card show if it 687 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:38.559 wasn't for you guys. Oh yeah, yeah, I was headed there and 688 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:43.199 that's what I found out, and I didn't go. Yeah. Yeah, 689 00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.840 you couldn't get you couldn't use your debit card, you had to have cash 690 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.639 only. That's what they were saying around the Seine. It's still it's still 691 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.679 down going on. What the heck has happened over there? Still down? 692 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.719 Yeah? But did you and you of course you haven't talked to George because 693 00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.920 I'd be curious to know how they did the rest of the weekend for for 694 00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.239 for show goers. Yeah, I'm not too sure. He said he was 695 00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.880 doing okay, but we spoke to him. That was Friday afternoon. Yeah, 696 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.000 yeah, I know. But Saturday and Sunday for the dealers. Did 697 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.599 you see I mean, how was it in your by your expertise? Oh 698 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:17.119 well, they well, they were still setting up when I went there. 699 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:23.880 It was nice. They had dealers from Wisconsin, Las Vegas. I don't 700 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:28.239 know. I guess one other play. Oh a lot of people are from 701 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.719 Illinois and New York. But but I don't know where they lived currently. 702 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:37.079 Okay, okay, what else did you want to talk about anything? I 703 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:43.119 just wanted to say that I enjoyed the best writer and Tucson Hanson and of 704 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.719 course the best beat writer we get to talk to whenever I call you. 705 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:51.199 Guys. Thank you the checks in the mail. Okay, guys, thanks 706 00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:57.039 art the week off right, Thanks for listening, Thanks for listening to you, 707 00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.320 Thanks for listening. Yeah, that's a good one too, all right. 708 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.639 Okay, So, uh just came through on on Twitter. Wildcats Radio 709 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:10.320 twelve ninety David kel come on, posted Deo Barnes just told our David Kelly 710 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:15.000 twelve ninety that Arizon Wildcats leading scorer Kaylin Gilbert will not be with the team 711 00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:19.400 for the remainder of this Did she play yesterday? No? Oh she did? 712 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.760 Well, wasn't on the trap. Oh, okay, makes sense, 713 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.960 Yeah, it makes sense. They went they had seven there were seven plays 714 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:29.039 on Friday without Gilbert. Yeah. Oh, we're gonna have her on tomorrow. 715 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.159 Yeah. And I'm going to repeat the question that I thought that was 716 00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:37.159 interesting to me after we had uh interim ad Cheddrea. He thought this was 717 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:43.800 her best coaching job in her career being which is I mean, that's kind 718 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.079 of miracle worker and not to be not to wax poetic, but because there 719 00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:51.480 are issues obviously, right, but seven players. Yeah, but they've certainly 720 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.280 played themselves into the very into a minimum. The n I T right with 721 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:58.639 the w n I T. And I think, you know, again, 722 00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:02.320 if they do something ridiculous and beat you know, two ranked teams coming into 723 00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:07.079 coming into into town this week, UCLA and USC, who knows what the 724 00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.559 hell can happen. And that's kind of what I was touching on earlier when 725 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.920 I said, when you look at the season, that that was at the 726 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.760 end, at whatever happens with this women's basketball team this season, When you 727 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:17.400 look at the end, my takeaway is going to be, how did they 728 00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.360 make it as far as they did? Whatever that is, what's the record? 729 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.639 Do you know seventeen and twelve, I believe, which is either sixteen 730 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.199 or seventeen and twelve in a tough league, right, and I think they're 731 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:36.280 I think they're one game or maybe maybe two games over five hundred in the 732 00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:40.960 conference. So Arizona women's basketball is currently eight and eight in conference, sixteen 733 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.199 and twelve overall, ten and three at home, So they were they in 734 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:51.000 the conference. I think they're like in sixth place, seventh, seventh, 735 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:53.679 which is pretty remarkable. Was but they've got the six teams ahead of them 736 00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:55.639 are all ranked all right, So yeah, this is gonna be a tough, 737 00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:59.360 tough road here. Yeah. Yeah, And the tournament, they're gonna 738 00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.719 announce their their thing pretty soon, like the three weeks or two weeks. 739 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.440 Isn't like the week before and the men's announcing the basketball tournament or at the 740 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.480 same time. Because they got finished, the finished early, they definished, 741 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:14.599 they finished a week early, right, So yeah, they they've got to 742 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:20.400 have their their announce their tournament bracket coming up because it's the week before men's 743 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:24.840 right. They also have the longest winning streak in the conference to four games. 744 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.800 Four games. Well, so we'll talk to her Tomorrow'm looking forward to 745 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.599 that idea, Barnes, we had four fifteen and then we have a Va 746 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:35.920 Gregorian. He's the columnist in Saint Louis newspaper, very good at what he 747 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.480 does. Cover a new one from college basketball, and now he's he knows 748 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:45.800 Francois read France. Francois a ray with a with a with an accent on 749 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.320 the East. So we'll get so we'll get some thoughts from people out there. 750 00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:53.840 I know that with some concerns was because she had an oversight committee coming 751 00:51:53.880 --> 00:52:00.000 on board to kind of take control of She's got a really big oversight issue. 752 00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:02.440 So you know, joke from one fire. Yeah, well yeah, 753 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.239 and it is becoming a dumpster fire down here, so we'll see. We'll 754 00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.679 still we'll talk about all that. But she didn't start till third third Yeah, 755 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:15.039 okay, so she probably still hanging out back over there, right stuff. 756 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.039 Okay, good, good show today. This was fun. Kevin Lehman, 757 00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:22.039 Thank you for calling in, Howard. Also thanks for calling in a 758 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.440 lot of the interesting stuff over the weekend and some stuff coming up Arizona a 759 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.599 s U on Wednesday. Steve is gonna blow me off for the last half 760 00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:31.880 hour of the show. I wanted to think she takes him forever to get 761 00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.679 to Phoenix, and it doesn't. But okay, it does. He hasn't 762 00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:40.159 driven up there forever. I went up there for a Diamondbacks game and I 763 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:49.920 you know, there was no Scar down. There's two people living in Arizona. 764 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.840 Big baby, all right. But Dea Barnes will be joining us in 765 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:59.400 the four fifteen hour tomorrow, so we'll we'll get her hair take on how 766 00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.880 her season is going and what she thinks about the rest of us. It 767 00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:06.159 would be really interesting. They need some big crowds this weekend. They really 768 00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:09.039 want some help from the crowd. So that's I'm sure she's been talking about 769 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:13.280 that. So thanks for being everybody, have a great Monday evening, and 770 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:14.079 we'll be back tomorrow.