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The following podcast is brought to you
exclusively by the Arad Rob Radio Network.

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This is PBA Champion Kyle Trup and
you're listening to Straight Up five with Johnny

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Petrakleia Junior. As you know,
JP Jr. Used to be introduced as

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a sexiest man in bowling and now
the world. But he doesn't have the

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best hair in the world. I
do, Sorry, Bud, but you

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know the deal. Pick it out, fear the fro baby. Welcome to

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Straight Up five Johnny petra hard hitting, in depth, cutting edge look into

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the world of bowling. This podcast
will not only cover all things bowling,

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but will also give you a raw
look into real life issues. You'll get

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unfettered access into the mind of one
of the most gifted bowlers of this or

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any other generation. So without further
Ado, Let's introduce you to the host

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of the show, Brad Rob,
Rob Francois, Rob Rob Francois, doctor

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Ocho, Doctor Ocho, and the
incomparable Johnny Petraglia Junior. Johnny Petralia jor.

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Hey, guys, looking back to
Straight Up five with Johnny Petraglia Junior.

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This is episode number eighty seven.
I am still your host, Rad

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Rob Rob Francois, damn right,
I do. God, there's just nobody

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better Nico. What's going on?
Brother? Welcome, welcome? You have

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a headache? Well, every time
I have to talk to ohow though,

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I have a headache too, irregardless, Sorry, that's an inside joke.

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Let's introduce my first co host.
He is the man with the shiniest mask

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in bowling. He has the largest
arms in all of Ochoville. He is

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the resident doctor of Straight Up five, the one and only doctor Ocho.

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Good evening, sir, Well,
I see your biceps suck uh and it's

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on wide angles. So I don't
know what's going on. It's something wrong

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with the screen. Maybe maybe your
arms are just too big. I mean

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probably Welcome to Straight Up five with
Johnny Ben trying to junior, I am

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Rob Rob Francois, that's all going
on? No? No, I mean,

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how you doing? Man? I
haven't seen you in that so I

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don't even have a fun league story. I had to go to a wedding

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and depart my league. Oh you
got married? Who nobody you knew?

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You got married to my eighth wife? Sure? Six eight depends, okay?

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Anyway. Also joining us is the
man that there's nobody here. No,

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that's it, it's just us.
You didn't give me a memoro.

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Shit. There is usually somebody sitting
next to doctor Rocho who happens to be

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what that sexy guy right there,
the sexiest man of the world, Number

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seven in your program, number on
in your hearts, the one and only.

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Oh, he's sitting there right there. You know who he is.

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It's up, JP, it's me. It's good to see your brother.

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It's me. It's j P.
That's it. Life is good right now.

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Pleasure to see you, rad rob
as always. Pleasure to see you,

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mister Tiberius. Yes, o,
Joe. Let's I got a little

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housekeeping to do before you bring in
our special guests. And I'm super excited

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for our special guests. But I
got my MRI I results back, and

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I kind of need you to to
explain some of this doctor term stuff real

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quick, if you don't mind.
Did they use the words guerrilla in any

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of the terminology? Uh? No, sirt, No they did not.

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Good. Good, Then they're doing
their job properly, I think. Okay.

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Uh. The flexor and extens or
tendon scene about the ankle joint are

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unremarkable without evidence for tendinopathy, tenolscinomitis, or tear, you're literally faking everything.

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Okay, the medial and lateral ligamentous
complexes are intact. Without signal abnormality,

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you're faking still. The sinus tarsi
is normal. The tarsal tunnel is

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unremarkable. So that's what I thought. That's the high ankle spring. It's

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whether the tarsal tibial junction is when
that gets disrupted. Usually people roll their

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ankle and it's the fibular fibular talent, not even the fibular taler. It's

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the fibular canarian form junction. So
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That's why it's easy to roll it
outward. When you roll inward and hit

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the tibial talar junction, that's the
high ankle spring. So you've been you've

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been a lingerer, is what we
ca all except I put you put purple

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dye on your skin because you did
bruise. I did see that you weren't

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lying. Uh. There is no
bone marrow edema. There is no fracture

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or dislocation. There is no tableau
taller typically tower. That's what I was

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just talking about. There's there's no
joint effusion, the plantar fascia is intact.

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The Achilles tendont is normal in size. There is non specific edema within

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the subcutaneous fat around the ankle.
Apparently I just have fat cankles. If

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you're swelled up in your cankel area
right, we're talking about his cankels right

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now, high gabriella. They might
not have been cankles. They might have

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been just regular like fankles. Oh
hell no, theude, they're they're cankles.

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There were fat ankles. They were
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and and and my my ankle begins. So that's just you're you're good,

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You're good. That was the high
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for. I thought you're gonna send
me the report so I could pretend like

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anyone else. But you put me
on the spot and I didn't prove.

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I knew what I was talking about, which puts more pressure on me,

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which I thrive on, especially when
I'm shooting a ten pin with nothing on

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the line. I knew you would
pull out, I mean pull through,

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very nice, rob. When I
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good. That was weird, he
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notes a week ago, Johnny,
I got a little video package to play

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about our special guests. But I
know this guy is one of your favorites.

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Just just a quick word about what
what mister learned means to you.

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Well, I met I met Bob
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imagine like nineteen let's call it nineteen
ninety three, nineteen ninety two. But

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this was a time that my dad
wasn't making a lot of shows. So

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when my dad made the show an
Eerie at East Way Lanes in nineteen ninety

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six, it was Easter weekend and
I had the choice of either going to

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Disney World with my mom and my
sister or to Eerie, Pennsylvania to watch

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my dad bowl in a tournament.
And I made the executive decision at that

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age to go watch Dad bowl because
that's really where my heart was, even

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over Disney World. Nowadays, i'd
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at that time, sounds it going
to be a little more opposite. Yeah,

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well you would think, but that
was I kind of fell in love

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with Bob. I love the holding
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I love the leg speed, I
love the full blown commitments, every

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single shot that he always throws,
and through all that, through dinners,

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throughout the Johnny Patragli Open because Bob
made the show a couple of times at

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Carol leer Lane's in North Brunswick.
Bob has always been not only a great

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ambassador to the sport, but a
great father figure to me. So I

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have a very deep emotional connection with
him, and I was thrilled to death

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that you Rob went out of your
way to get somebody of this stature on

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this show. So first off,
kudos to raw for bringing for bringing tonight

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as as most of our guests are
usually from Rob, but uh No,

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to tell you the truth, dude, Bob has always been the most down

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earthed real person I've ever met,
and it's just an absolute honor and pleasure

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to be able to pick his brain
for a little while tonight. And I'm

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really I'm looking forward to this show
as much as having mister Schaeffer, mister

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Buttriff and my dad and anybody else, anybody else has been on this show.

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This is going to be another Marshall
Kent giving us, giving us inside

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it kind of just it adds to
the legacy that is the sport of bowling.

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Having somebody like like Bob on the
show and really really looking forward to

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it's an I dude, and again, Rob, thank you so much for

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going out of your way to get
him on tonight. So this is going

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to be a great show. You
are welcome, my friend, and uh

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he us on the phone while you
watch the damn game. Jesus. It

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wasn't even a question when I asked
him to come on, and he was

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just very gracious. So we got
about two and a half more minutes to

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blow smoke up with that before I
bring him on. So here is a

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highlight package from the incomparable Bob lar
and Jr. Let's do it, and

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Dell Bower says it's over, but
there's still a potential for baller calls.

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But I don't think Lern will send
it that why he's a possible two fifty

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five. All right, give us
Shanno Toomer Trouser hitch go ahead, six

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shooter there. It is not to
be the night to day though. You're

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right this and I'll take the Bob
learns Jr. Spend a lot of time

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on it till almost a decade.
He has learned the dogs and he's got

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a little picking laugh here for only
his most prolific three hundred board potential,

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two fifty five year Eric Garci people
and Harry Bensilhida for dating with joy.

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You look at that. Any kind
of hit, you'll get a strike a

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dog that's great. Been a fifty
four thousand dollars handshake there that's got a

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second highest paycheck to a winner on
our tour. Why here. I mean,

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it's been a strange day, but
don't expect anything. As Adro Perry

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said here many years ago, we
have met the anime and they are ours.

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Okay, congratulations Bob Larn Yeah,
any kind of a mark. Bob

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Learns been making very good shots.
The last couple of frames. He's left

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the soft tenpin. You know,
with all the pocket the only thing that

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can get in is way as a
solid seven to ten. Right now here

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it comes. They're the strike five. There's your champion with a herege strike

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in the tenth frame, and Bob
Learn is your champion of the US Open.

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Wonder how is Bax fillling right now? Is the slides right down?

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There's Stacey and Brittany. And that's
right, Daddy just won the big one.

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I don't know, my first one's
always special, but this has to

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rank up there because Bob has gone
through a tough time over the past couple

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of years. Weally had this is
a this is a major title. This

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is certainly going to be this week
as he came through the clutch. Please

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welcome to the show. Good evening, Bob. Thank you for waiting for

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so long to get on here,
but we just had you, and thank

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you for joining us tonight. How
are you hey, guys, good seeing

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you. Thanks for having me on. Absolutely, we were so blessed to

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have of your stature on the show. John, As Johnny put early in

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the beginning, he's a big fan
of you. I know Ocho is also

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a giant fan of you, Bob. But we can't thank you enough for

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being gracious with your time. Oh
I'm looking forward to you guys. JP.

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It's been a while, but yeah, I mean what you were talking

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about growing up and being around a
tour and yeah, we had a good

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relationship, always hanging out talking.
You always had, you know, something

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nice to say and always questions about
this or that. So you know,

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we did get we get some good
quality time together when we were out there

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when you were younger. Yeah,
we sure did. That's some good style.

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Yes, I guess they started off. Brother. I mean, you

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can lead the first question or however
you want to go. It's just I

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told Bobby, like the freestyle here
and we'll talk about his career in his

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early life, but you can kick
it off. Oh yeah, definitely.

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So I'm obviously going to start with
questions that I have now that I'm almost

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forty. And my introduction to the
PBA started when Dad made the National Championship

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Show when he bowled Histree hundred for
one hundred grand at Imperial Lanes in Toledo

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in nineteen ninety four. So that
was the first time I heard I ever

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heard my mother scream in the kitchen
you have fifth You're gonna be on ABC

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tomorrow and this and that, YadA, YadA, YadA. So that was

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really what jump started me. That
was around the time that I was throwing

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like ten or eleven pounds with the
resin rhino ries, fire quantums, whatever

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you want to call whatever ball was. But in nineteen ninety six, during

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Easter Week, Bob, the first
thing I want to ask you is during

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that show they did a kind of
like a Q and A where they they

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brought us into your home, you
Stacey Brandon, Brittany, they brought us

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to your house. It looked like
you were just building a new home,

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like we were still doing the landscaping. The house is beautiful, and this

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and that. And the last question
or the last thing that Shankle says to

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you in that interview is if your
fifty second three hundred happens to come on

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the show tomorrow, what would that
do for you? And your answer was

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something along the lines of bowling a
national televised three hundred on ABC, that

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would be great. That will be
like the culmination whatever you said. So,

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I guess my question is, is, as an outsider who's never bowled

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in front of his hometown crowd in
a stage like that thirty grand on top

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front the hometown crowd, Flagship Open, one of the most prestigious regular tournaments

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the PBA had to offer at that
time, did you feel different like in

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warm up that day, Like there's
been days that I and anybody else that's

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in this chatter that's watching, like
you know you have the nuts, Like

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I get that, but like it's
got to be. There had to be

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some kind of a thought problem,
whether it was how much you were chewing

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your gum or sitting in the exact
same spot. Can you just kind of

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walk us through the a feed that
I personally don't think we'll ever be matched

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by anybody for as long as the
sport exists. Can just talk us through

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that day just to start, well, Obviously, I was pretty excited after

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the last game the night before,
knowing that I made the show, so

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I wasn't sleeping very much that night. So one thing I was I was

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kind of tired going into the show, but excited during warm ups. Actually,

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the left lane was giving myself in
Randy Peterson some problems. We kept

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washing out on it. There was
a hang spot on the left lane,

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and so quite honestly, I really
wasn't looking at it like this is going

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to be just an amazing day throwing
strikes NonStop. It was more about,

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Wow, Okay, I finally made
a TV show in front of my hometown

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crawd and now I just don't want
to embarrass myself. I got to figure

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out what to do on this left
lane and see if I can at least

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sell to two twenty or so.
That was honestly the mindset going in,

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and it helped me throughout the day
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I was I was always still trying
to feel like, you know,

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every shot, just get up there
and execute. It wasn't like, hey

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man, just throw wherever we want. You know it's gonna it's gonna work

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out for you. It really kept
my focus, and honestly, I switched

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the ball with three shots left in
practice that actually saw the left lane and

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it disappeared in my handspot. So
I'm like, okay, I'll go with

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this ball going into the first game. Obviously, I already know I have

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to against your father, who's you
know, hall of famer if I if

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I beat him, then I have
to bowl against John Maza, an amazing

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player on tour, and future Hall
of Famer Parker Bone. It's a murderer's

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row. You have to face me. Okay, it doesn't get any easy

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year, obviously, Boby, no
continue because everybody knows you threw the RPM

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swirl on the show. What ball
were you throwing before you switched to that

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when you were washing out on the
left lane? Well on them, I

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was throwing an RPM swirl. I
had had four of them drilled up for

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the show. The one that eliminated
the hankspot was one that just read earlier,

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so then I got to face up
before it saw that spot. And

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then going on to shoot three hundred. First game, there was a replay

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of that interview that you talked about
at my home and we sat probably it

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felt like fifteen minutes. They came
out with a check and made a presentation,

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blah blah blah. Finally get back
to bowling and I start off with

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a flat ten pin and I kind
of felt like, Okay, maybe I

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just didn't throw it. Ask Chris
strike come back and left another flat ten

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pin. I was like, no, I think that one a lot better.

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So we went into commercial break and
my wife was like, what are

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you doing? I'm like, what
do you mean when I'm doing the shot

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three hundred? He's mad and he
goes, yeah, but I mean you

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want to win this, right,
I go yes. He goes, well,

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you got to figure something out of
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left two tempens and I left lane
and I said yeah, I said the

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first one, I probably didn't throw
it so good. And I said the

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last one I did. She goes, well, you know, make a

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decision. I said, you mean
making decision? He goes, well,

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should you change the balls? I'm
going I'm thinking, I go, actually,

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I do need to change the ball
because the ball was facing up early,

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obviously too early at that point.
I switched balls in the fourth frame

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and I struck out masa seventy and
I continue to throw that ball at the

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remainder of the day. So it
was two balls that I threw during that

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that show. So it's remarkable that
I didn't know either. Yeah, I

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mean either that's the different right,
like you said, four different correct,

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just more continue. I mean,
who knows Bob better than staysy. I

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mean she obviously knows where his brind's
at and knows what his thought process.

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It's just like my mom with my
dad there, or anybody else that has

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somebody that their entire life is dedicated
to their relationship with their spouse. I

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mean, it's badass. So you
went to one. She convinced me to

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make the change. Was it a
little bit more angular, Bob, that

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it was a little bit more poppy
down, more continual? Exactly? Wow,

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I can't believe I never knew that
Dad definitely does all. I guess

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I never really we always seem to
learn new things on the show that that

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don't usually come out. And I
mean, how remarkable is it to not

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only shoot three hundred but against literally
one of the top five bowlers of all

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time and Johnny Petragli It's just,
uh, it's a dream come true.

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It's it's it's we talked about Ron
and Schaeffer last week, like it's a

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Disney moment, like that could be
a a Disney movie like that just not

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only did you shoot three hundred,
but you may be the only one that

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ever shoot three hundred actually win the
entire tournament? Is that right? And

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also quick my wife helped me refocus, right, So yeah, I mean,

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I guess I was kind of like, wow, you know, one

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hundred thousands an awesome day, and
she's like, the day is not over.

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Let's remember if he didn't shoot three
hundred, he probably wouldn't have won

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because Johnny shot, what did your
dad shoot? Dad shot to Dad's six

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been in the seventh frame for two
seventy nine, So if he doesn't shoot

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three hundred, he don't even have
vacant me. We're not even close.

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We're not even close to the culmination. So my next question, let let's

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get past the one hundred grand,
because typically when somebody bowls that that that

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many figure a game on TV,
usually the next game is adrenaline dump kind

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of thing. Exactly. Dad lost
to Dell Trader one eight in Toledo.

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Mike Alby obviously bowled his against Obie
against Ozio in the title match, didn't

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have another game bob andoit bold his. So you are the eighth ABC three

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hundred at that point and one of
only I believe four guys or five guys

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if you include Rhino's Japan Cup that
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But here's the thing. That was
the last one I think, aside from

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the three hundred Bob is and it
was yes, And aside from the three

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hundred, the biggest thing for me
was not the adrenaline dump. It was

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what you did the next three games
that because you were talking about Maza Spare

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Strike Spare two seventy two sixty eight, needed double nine in the tenth,

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you needed the first hit in the
tenth on your three hundred to be Dad.

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And now you rolling into Parker where
you struck eleven times for two eighty

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to beat Parker by a pin.
So now let's let's keep going here.

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My I've always had this question.
I'm going to ask you, because it

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is my show. The gum you
were chewing, how much flavor did it

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have left or did you change change
with it, change the balls gum in

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his mouth? And the reason I'm
asking about the gum is like, sometimes

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when I'm in dead stroke, and
again I've never been at that level,

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I'll chew the same piece of gum, or I'll lean on the same chair,

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or I'll wipe my shoe the saint
just to keep my rhythm going the

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same way, imagining what I'm doing
in front of me and all this ship.

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I'm just curious, did you change
pieces of gum? No? Same

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a rock by the time that show
that should I couldn't. I just I

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could get to the place where I
was going to get rid of it.

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I'm like, no, this is
going to good. Just keep going that

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piece of gum. So now now
we're in the title match against Randy Peterson,

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and Randy throws the first eight count
on the entire show for all of

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our viewers. By the way,
in this show, Game one was learned

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three hundred dad to seventy nine,
Game two was learned to seventy masat two

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sixty eight, Game three was learned
two eighty PB three to seventy nine,

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and the title match learned to seventy
nine against Randy's two fifty seven, and

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Randy had the only eight count on
the show and the eclipse. The previous

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record set the year that one of
our former guests, Danny Wiseman rando ladder.

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I'm not rand the ladder up the
last three matches and I think it

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was something like eighty seven or eighty
eight total strikes thrown something crazy. But

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like Bob, you needed every hit
in every game as much en route averaging

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two eighty two point three for four
games in front of the home crowd.

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Do you still do you ever watch
that show? Do you ever think about

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what you did? Do you ever
look back and say, excuse my language,

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how the fuck did I do this? Like? Do you ever like

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go back and realize that for the
rest of bowling history, everybody will always

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remember what you did at the Civic
Center Easter Weekend in ninety six. You

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know, when it was over that
day, I'm like and people started talking

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about Mike. I honestly was so
focused I didn't even realize truly what was

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happening. As far as my scoring. I just I knew that I was

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in, you know, going to
tenth and needing hits. But I really

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wasn't tracking score. I was just
focused, like I said, every shot,

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staying in the process. But looking
back at it, yeah, I

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was like, Okay, So when
I was a kid, I would just

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you know, I'd sit and just
kind of just for the past time.

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I would just start filling out some
score sheets, you know, and just

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imagine I'm throwing this massive, you
know, set, and then I'm going

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to give myself a spare here strike
say right, you know, as soon

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as you know as a kid.
But I never averaged two eighty three even

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when I was right in so I
still have, you know, but I

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have watched I said, needed to
average it three. You get bounced in

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the second game, That's what I
mean. That has to make it so

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much harder. It's not that it's
the hits. It's like, oh,

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I need this to not only win, but then to continue this crazy record

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street going. Well, you know, it also is what made it so

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fun. To do right. I'm
in front of my hometown crowd. I'm

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getting an opportunity to perform into tense, strikeout everything that you've ever wanted to

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do. Right. So if you're
if you're going to win a tournament,

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you want to strike to win it. You don't want to say, oh,

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let me just you know, not
blow it here. And and all

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I need is a spare. You
want to go up there and have to

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throw one, you know. And
so I had that opportunity of three three

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games in a row to do that, and then also to do it in

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front of my hometown crowd. And
you know, as a kid, there

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was no Eerie Open, but it
was something that I had practiced plenty of

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times. And then my practice was
always striking out in attempt to win the

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ear Open, years before it would
ever become a reality. And so I

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had played it so many times,
you know, in my head, and

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had played out that role play so
many times that honestly, I felt like

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I was just going through and reliving, you know, those those moments that

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I practiced so hard for when I
was younger, and and you know,

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it's just living it out, rob
Bob. Sorry, I was gonna say,

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Rob go first before I asked Bob. I mean, I just want

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to comment on like Bob, you
literally could have thrown like four or three

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hundred games on the show, like
you were in the zone so much.

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It's I mean, christ Belmo's great. You know, there's been so many

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great bullers before, during, and
after, but I can't wrap my head

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around how many strikes you actually threw. Like, like Johnny said, it'll

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probably never be done again. So
I mean, talk about being in the

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zone, dude, like you were, you were on another level. It

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was. It was definitely a day
that is going to be hard to replicated,

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simply because transition in today's game is
so much greater. So to be

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able to stay, you know,
locked in for that long. One thing

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was I had bolt uh left left
handers the first three games, so I

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was bowling with my only under my
own transition true and uh and a ball

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that was actually not that strong of
a ball, So I wasn't getting anything

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that you know, would would create
you know, big issues. A trip

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four was my It was kind of
like, okay, I need to move.

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Whereas if I would have something more
aggress in my hand, I could

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have been a big forwar at any
time. So there's a you know,

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a lot of things went right that
day, A lot of things aligned that

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day. And you know, I
don't know, I've seen it three times,

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maybe four. I've watched it in
its entirety, but of course I

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catch clips that people post, you
know, and like just like maybe the

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ninth and tenth frame or something of
the three hundred game. I've seen that

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a number of times, but maybe
I need to watch it more, you

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know, kind of get back into
that. You know, I certainly,

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certainly is great. I'm grateful for
it to have to have a day like

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that. Obviously, you got to
get such goosebumps watching that that though.

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Even the clips. Espano put a
clip up and like it's like between the

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crowd and the reaction the shot,
it's like it's it makes the hairs on

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your backstand up, you know what
I mean. There was so much energy

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in that Civic Center. I mean, you can actually when I watch it

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again, you can feel it in
that show when you're watching it. But

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I can, I can honestly say
this, there wasn't one shot I threw

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that day that I was nervous.
I felt totally relaxed. On every shot

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everything I had. Everybody was so
committed and when and when you did miss

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us by this, like whether it
was a pinch speed or a pinch inter

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route. Bob. Now, I'm
going to ask you the question that's probably

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on a lot of people's mind because
it's another thing we've only seen once to

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this day on national television, and
back then we didn't have the multiple camera

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angles that we have now. What
happened in the second frame in the Parker

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match when you shot that ten pin
on lane four in the Civic Center,

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when Johnny Campos gave you the shot
over what happened down lane? So,

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first of all, it was the
very first week that they've ever allowed people

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to sit down lane. That was
the first time ever I was I was

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in the middle of my approach and
a gentleman, the guy they announced it

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as being some woman some lady stood
up, but it was a guy that

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stood up and he was standing,
uh maybe three quarters the way down the

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lane, right almost where the end
of the seating was. He stood up

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and he leaned over like to see
the tempin in the middle of my approach,

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like it's I'm almost the top of
my swing and I'm like, what

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is this guy doing? And I
wish I wouldn't have flinched. I just

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missed it. But I mean I
was just like, what you know,

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cause you just that just never happens, right. Parker is the one that

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says, I turned around. Parker, I go, wow, that's unbelievable.

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Somebody would stand up and he goes, you're right. He goes,

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no, you're getting that shot over, he goes, because we had rules

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of back then, we had rules
in play where the flag, you know,

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the banners fell, or even a
pin topple that was in your you

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know, in your view or definitely
could have caught you. People gett shots

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often based off of some of those
things that happened Deck James or whatnot to

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drop pins or whatever. So it
was in the rules. Uh, And

408
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:13.559
it was Parker that called for it, not myself. I was in disbelief

409
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.200
that somebody had. He still says
that to this day that he was the

410
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.559
one that told Johnny campbells absolutely let
him do it again. But again I

411
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.880
can also say I would have done
the same for anyone else to in that

412
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.880
situation. I would have for sure
wouldn't have it on the show. If

413
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.440
you were an asshole. We know
you would do the same, So I

414
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:40.200
didn't know Guy was right. I
didn't recognize it or anything. He still

415
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:45.759
talks about that to this day and
then, and I mean, obviously,

416
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.480
I just wish there were more cameras
so we could have seen it, like

417
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.079
the same way we always see Pete
Webber yelling at something off to the left

418
00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.480
of the right. But yeah,
you never get you never get done by

419
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.279
anything. I mean, I watched
you bowl for Senior Team USA with a

420
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:08.240
broken wrist and you decide to stay
and throw darts at the headpin because you're

421
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:13.160
that kind of a person. So
I feel like it's very important at least

422
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:19.039
for our viewers to understand exactly what
happened there and the fact that not you,

423
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.160
the tournament director and your opponent were
the ones that said, no,

424
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:29.440
he's gonna shoot this again. It's
I know, a lot of assholes may

425
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:30.680
have been like, oh, he's
in his hometown crowd. They're trying to

426
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.559
make sure that he doesn't ye.
Meanwhile, he still won the game by

427
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.000
a pin because you're through the next
ten. And to me, it was

428
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:42.480
always one of the main reasons why
I love with you as a bowler.

429
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.279
I always knew the kind of person
you were, how really you were,

430
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:52.240
and for everybody in the chat,
that's what happened. Just so y'all know

431
00:33:52.440 --> 00:34:02.640
there we lost them. Yeah,
So go on to that story. The

432
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:12.000
very first tournament of the following season
was a Japan Cup in September and in

433
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.440
the fall, i should say,
and before that we had the Korea Cup.

434
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:22.119
Well, we go to Seoul to
bowl this Korea Cup and the gentleman

435
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.840
who was the organizer of the event
comes up to me and he's laughing,

436
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:31.199
Hey you remember me, I go
and I don't. He goes, I

437
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:36.360
stood up when you were shooting at
the tentpin and he was laughing about it.

438
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:38.920
And I'm like what, he goes, Yeah, it was me.

439
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.559
I'm like this one, it's not
funny, but uh, he goes.

440
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.800
He was there to watch the show
because for the first Korea Cup that they

441
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.599
were having, he was deciding if
this is something that they could do in

442
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:59.719
Seoul for the for the Korea Cup. So it was a guy who he

443
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:02.400
was our customed to our TV shows, right, He just he was just

444
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:09.039
an organizer from Korea coming over to
let to see the show. So that

445
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:15.000
explains a little bit of how it
happened, but one of the odds of

446
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.360
that. That's sorry, Rob,
We're having a little bit of an internet

447
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.360
connection issue over here, So I
apologize for for leaving mid sentence, but

448
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:29.159
I called the talent and what Bob
just said, and again, it was

449
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.960
just very important to me to you
know, nowadays, everybody has access to

450
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.159
everything, and they'll want to voice
their own opinion, but I like hearing

451
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.719
it from, you know, the
mouth of the person that was there,

452
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:46.880
and I just I know Bob would
never take a reshot on his own.

453
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:52.920
And I love knowing that that history
is history. There is no asterisk,

454
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:57.719
there is no nothing. He beat
one of those in the world by striking

455
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.360
out in the ten frame after throwing
all of them after the interference call performed

456
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:06.119
by Johnny Campbell's by a crazed fan, which I wish we had more of.

457
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.599
I wish there were more people that
couldn't sit in their seats when something

458
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:15.440
like that, something that magical is
happening on the bowling lanes, and again,

459
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:20.239
I mean just goes to show man
like think about the amount of people,

460
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.760
the amount of people in the eery
Pa area, I mean collectively over

461
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:30.480
the two years between Wiseman's win and
Bob's win, there was over twelve thou

462
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:36.960
people in that arena. I mean
everybody wanted the greatest bowlers in the world

463
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.000
in the greatest part of the country
when it comes to bowling, I mean

464
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:44.960
rivaling Florida, the Northeast. I
get all that, Ohio, I mean

465
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.679
close enough, obviously being an eerie. But to me, it's just that

466
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.800
day. My dad always says to
me, and I'm gonna get a little

467
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:59.039
bit mellow right now. And I'm
relating this to bowling because bowling is my

468
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.599
life. Somebody else who's in the
chat can probably relate this to points in

469
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:07.639
their life. But like when the
plane hit the towers on nine to eleven

470
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:12.599
my birthday, my mom and dad
said, you'll remember this until you're dead,

471
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:17.079
the same way they remember when Kennedy
was assassinated. Right in the bowling

472
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:23.199
world, I will always remember Bob's
performance. I'm sorry, I'm talking like

473
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:29.239
you're not even I'm going to roll
with this real quick, but it was

474
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.719
I bowled seven ninety two in the
league last night. Just to put this

475
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.079
in perspective, seven ninety two I
would have got swept by Bob, and

476
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.360
then I would have had to bowl
another game, and had I bowled three

477
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.679
hundred, he still would have gotten
me by forty. And that's on my

478
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.440
local house shot, in my home
bowling. He decided to be like,

479
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.920
you know what, I'm going to
do it for an extra one hundred and

480
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.079
thirty grand in front of everybody that
came here to see me on the biggest

481
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:59.960
stage bowling offer. So I wanted
a gum. I want to know about

482
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.599
out the reset, I want to
know about the thought process. I want

483
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.960
to know about the bowling ball.
You know what the body you're feeling is.

484
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.880
To me, it's the sexiest thing
in sport. It's like talking to

485
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:17.719
what's his name that the home run
for the Giants that or Carl Bobo Thompson,

486
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.039
you know, Like to me,
it's it's it's the exact same thing

487
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.280
to me, because to me that
this is my sport and this is like

488
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:30.719
and we have a legend here that's
done something that nobody will ever do again.

489
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:37.360
I promise you, nobody will ever
bowl for higher games and nobody went

490
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:44.519
in front of their hometown crowd again. It'll never happen again. Apparently they

491
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:51.920
are having Apparently they are having internet
issues, but that day honestly is just

492
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.679
it rights itself like you and you
you, you couldn't make that up.

493
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.360
Like everything that happened on that day, hometown crowd bullying as well as you

494
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:06.840
did against the little literal legends that
you did can't be replicated, and I

495
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:08.159
don't think it could be duplicated.
Let's get Johnny back in. It's just

496
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:15.880
it's just amazing that everything aligned on
that day for you, like in the

497
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:21.760
perfect place, your hometown. Nobody, anybody outside the sport wouldn't even be

498
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:27.519
able to wrap their head around everything
that you were able to accomplish that day.

499
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.199
So the fact that you were so
even keel and not nervous through the

500
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:37.039
whole thing, just it was a
perfect day, Like literally a perfect day

501
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.519
that anybody in any sport wish is
that they would have. Yeah, I

502
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:45.679
mean I again, I look back
at it just like I was completely blessed

503
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.119
by it, right, Yeah,
to be able to have a day like

504
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.719
that, You know, I haven't
I haven't really told anybody this, but

505
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:59.800
when I got done with that show
and was talking to you know something,

506
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:05.519
the Chris Shankle came up to me
and he goes, Bob, I just

507
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:10.639
want to tell you that is the
single greatest performance I've ever experienced in sport.

508
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:21.239
Chris shank who covered every everything.
Yes, yeah, when he said

509
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.639
that to me, I had,
I had, you know, definitely goosebumps.

510
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.079
But that's when it really hit.
That's when it really hit. And

511
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.039
what we saw on a couple of
your wins, Bob, is you having

512
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.519
you know, tears in your eyes, Like it was just so cool to

513
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:43.719
see how much it actually meant to
you to win those titles as yourself such

514
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.079
you had such a love and passion
for the game. I loved as a

515
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.079
fan seeing that emotion come out of
you. Can you kind of explain what

516
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.239
those moments meant to you by winning
those titles? Well, I mean,

517
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:59.159
you know, I'm not a lone
in this. I mean there was a

518
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:04.159
lot of guys that are so passionate
about bowling and and and playing at the

519
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:09.119
highest level and it's something that you
practice for something that you want to achieve.

520
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:15.280
But some some of those moments were
you know, monumental. I mean,

521
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.400
winning the US Open, you know
that is that's that's the one you

522
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.840
know that's going to bring a tear
to your eyes if you're if you're that

523
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:28.760
you know, that committed to something, you know, doing that in front

524
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.800
of my hometown crowd, I would
have to say those are maybe more tears

525
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:37.159
of joy than anything. But yeah, it definitely, you know, I

526
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:43.719
could be an emotional guys. You
know, I'm very fierce in an aggressive

527
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:49.480
in how I play sport, any
sport. But you know, the feelings

528
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.440
come out at the end when when
you actually have been able to accomplish something

529
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:59.239
that you know you've been going for
for so long and only dreamt could happen,

530
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.239
and to you prove that you actually
can, you know. And the

531
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:07.320
first first title was certainly that I
had some runner up finishes. I'm like,

532
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.400
is this ever going to happen?
And then it did and I'm like,

533
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:13.280
honestly, it was a fleeting moment. I'm like, this is it.

534
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:15.719
This is what I waited my whole
life for. That's what I was

535
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:21.159
I don't know, afraid of or
or you know, we're thinking I could

536
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.679
never have And you know that was
the probably the the thing I left with

537
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:30.039
on my first win was Godly,
that was it, you know, because

538
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.079
it was so it's so it's so
far removed. I was never able to

539
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.239
obtain that, And then when it
happened, I was just like, Okay,

540
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.559
well, if that's it, then
we can do this again. You

541
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:46.519
know. So I was just you
know, as a kid living in a

542
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:51.679
small town who happened to have lived
close enough to a Boone center that he

543
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:59.280
could walk, and who who couldn't
think about anything else on Monday in school.

544
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:02.400
But to be able to go bowl
my three games on Saturday morning,

545
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.199
you know, it means a lot. It means a lot to be able

546
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:12.239
to take it and and do it
for a life, you know, life,

547
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:19.039
a whole lifetime. Johnny, you
still are you frozen or you're still

548
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:24.119
there? I think he's frozen.
I think Socho's biceps blocking the Wi Fi

549
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.159
I think so too. Yeah,
you may have to move positions he might

550
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.559
be blocking. It's funny. We
had Ryan Schaeffer on last week and there's

551
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:38.880
you know, there's a connection between
you two. Number one you beat him

552
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:44.079
to win your last title in Japan. Uh number two, you both need

553
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.760
to win his first YEP and you
both want the US Open. So it's

554
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.599
kind of It's kind of funny how
you guys have a connection. Were you

555
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.440
guys friends when you're on tour.
Yeah, well you know, yes,

556
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.199
yes you were. He he where
I grew up, where he grew up,

557
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:06.360
wasn't that far you know, away
from each other, so you know,

558
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.679
you tend to gravitate towards those people
because you see him more often,

559
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:14.760
right right, Uh, but yeah, we've always been good friends. He

560
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:19.440
a little more outspoken than I,
but you know, but you know what,

561
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.400
h I love him, and uh
we find ourselves, you know,

562
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:29.199
at the end of the day in
a similar place as well with the title

563
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:32.440
count and uh yet you know when
you look at lifetime rnings and all,

564
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:37.920
we're you know, uh, toward
the top, and yet the title count

565
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:42.840
is what has been keeping us from
the PBA Hall of Fame. So you

566
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.760
know, I know that we have
that similar feeling of like, you know,

567
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.639
how many seconds can you have and
not and not not be a consideration,

568
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.199
you know, right, no kidding
especially Yeah, I mean you both

569
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:57.000
had quite a bit and you guys
were pretty prolific in the in the regional

570
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.239
so I'm sure you guys crossed paths
and on the regional tour before all.

571
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.880
Yeah, so that's that's really cool
and needs the hell of a guy.

572
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.320
And you're You're right. He is. He is pretty unspoken, but he's

573
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:15.559
very entertaining. Where did the one
handed style come from? Well, I

574
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.800
mean there were a few people that
had had done it right. You had

575
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:24.920
Carmenseelvino. You had Wayne Webb,
who was just Player of the Year a

576
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.760
couple of years prior to me going
out on tour. That's right, all

577
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.480
right, he was. He was
one armed at that time. But honestly,

578
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.840
the person I was trying to imitate
and how I wanted to throw the

579
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:44.840
ball was Marshall Holman, even though
roth was right up there as far as

580
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.840
who I loved. But Marshall Holman
held the ball down but just had his

581
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.000
other hand on it. And when
I did that, I just felt uncomfortable

582
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:57.159
with my shoulder being so, you
know, so much in front that I

583
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.760
left it off and and just base. If you would trace my swing from

584
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.199
the side and Marshall's, it was
almost identical. It was something It was

585
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.559
just like watching YouTube today and trying
to emulate someone that you can get pretty

586
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:15.039
close to doing that, and it
was it was really that. It was

587
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.599
just that I was trying to do
what Marshall did. You know, how

588
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:22.400
he unloaded to the lane was completely
different than the other guys, and uh,

589
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.000
that's what I was trying to do, and I was just able to

590
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.719
do with one with one with one
arm. That's really cool. And again,

591
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.320
like Ryan Schaeffer said too, like
he he won to emulate Roth with

592
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.119
you know, the way he cranked
it. But I mean he was a

593
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:38.639
huge Marshall home and fan as well. And another Team Brunswick member, Brionna

594
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:42.920
Klemmer was in chat and she obviously
holds one arm mount to the side,

595
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.400
so it's a kind of a variation
of what you did and it helped her

596
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.320
with their balance. But uh,
that's uh, Johnny. We were talking

597
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.960
as you got as you were gone
about I was similarities, the similarity between

598
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.800
Bob and and Ryan Schaeffer. How
Bob beat Ryan when his first seat,

599
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.000
Ryan beat Bob to win his first
and then Bob beat Ryan to win his

600
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:06.480
last, and they both want the
US Open. They both lived near each

601
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.519
other, and they crossed paths over
the years and the regional tour and pro

602
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.800
tours. So it's funny that we
have back to back guests that have like

603
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.880
such a synergy in that connection together. Yeah, he still has here.

604
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.920
We are very very sorry for our
connection at this point. We've got it

605
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.000
back now. But the question I
was trying to ask Bob, and I'm

606
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:31.440
sorry if you guys answered this already, But Bob, what was what has

607
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:37.440
been your favorite moment in bowling other
than the historic day that will never be

608
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.239
matched? That was the question I
was trying to ask. We don't know

609
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:43.320
if we got caught off before.
We're not sure. We kind of frozen

610
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.840
again again to all of our viewers. We're so sorry for that, Rob,

611
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.920
thanks for holding down the ford while
we were gone. But Bob,

612
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.079
I really want to ask you that
question because, like, for instance,

613
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:58.119
I'm only going off my dad right
now. My dad's favorite bowling day in

614
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:04.280
his life was winning and not fil
championship, but his number one was the

615
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.119
Nationals running Bowl to three hundred.
You know, you got to make up

616
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:12.920
for the two ninety eight from the
Long Island Open. You got to have

617
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.760
mom there, he got to come
home and like see everybody a carolier the

618
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:22.400
next week. Do you have a
favorite moment in your bowling career other than

619
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:29.039
the flagship? Yeah, it was
throwing that strike in the tenth for the

620
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:34.719
US Open. In that clip,
you can see I kind of ran ran

621
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.440
it out and went right to my
back that is, and you couldn't hear

622
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.679
it, but it was a lot
of I've ever screamed in my life,

623
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.039
I think when I was on my
because every pin was in the pit.

624
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:51.199
The second the ball hit the goddamn
ed beend, it was east. Yeah,

625
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:52.920
And you know, going back to
those moments where you want to throw

626
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:59.000
it great when you need it right
and you know, like they said you

627
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:00.599
need a mark, but it's same
time in my mind, I'm like,

628
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:06.239
I need to seal the deal,
s the deal right and couldn't couldn't have

629
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.639
thrown it any better for the US
Open, And so you know, those

630
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:15.519
are just those those those moments that
you just you know, you you you

631
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:20.159
you like why you've been involved with
this game and why you're trying to now

632
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.000
pay it forward to the youth,
with with the camps, with with everything

633
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.039
you do forget Team USA. We
already know that where your heart is,

634
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:35.679
but you've always kind of been the
guy that that pays it forward and you're

635
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.320
just a not only a fan of
the game, but you're a fan of

636
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:44.119
the future of the game. And
although we're all nuts, we only bring

637
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:49.440
people on this show that have hearts
like yours, and it's an absolute pleasure

638
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.320
and honor to watch you doing what
you're doing now in case you want to

639
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:58.440
tell everybody here exactly what it is
you do now with just as much as

640
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:06.320
possible. I travel almost every weekend
doing clinics, and I bring along a

641
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:12.639
lot of the well known younger pros
with me, and and honestly, the

642
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:19.639
hope is that getting them on board
with doing it and and basically doing the

643
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:23.320
same thing and afford you know,
people can learn so much from the experience

644
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:28.639
that these players have and to be
able to share those experiences, I mean,

645
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:30.760
that's like gold for a lot of
the for a lot of people that

646
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:35.480
are looking for some help. Like
this coming weekend, I'll be at Langley

647
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.880
Air Force Base and I got EJ. Tackett and Shannon o'keeith coming with me.

648
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.960
So those are some pretty good players
to have with you. Who were

649
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:49.000
they? I've heard of them,
I think, so I already know when

650
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.599
we get to these people are gonna
have a great time, right because they're

651
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.119
going to be you know, getting
to cee EJ throw the throw ball,

652
00:50:54.199 --> 00:51:00.159
and you know, obviously Shannon,
who's a great coach, and EJ a

653
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.119
really good job coaching. That is
the Other thing is that I don't just

654
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.679
have anybody go with me. It
truly has to be someone that's interested in

655
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:13.719
coaching and helping. And I've had
a few come along with me and and

656
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:16.880
find out, you know, in
the first time out with them that maybe

657
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.920
they weren't cut out for that,
and so that was it. I just

658
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.559
never take a self player to do
that too. It takes somebody who's very

659
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:29.920
selfless rather than you know, someone
who I don't know, maybe still has

660
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.000
a bit of an ego or something. But because paying it forward is more

661
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:37.199
than that, you're giving up your
own self. Really, you know,

662
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:45.400
you're you're you're basically breaking down your
walls to and that's you you. You

663
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:49.679
do find out very quickly. I
bet you know what Bob before you answer

664
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.880
that. And Rob, I'm sorry
to cut you off, but I do

665
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:57.760
have a question because we talk about
this every week, Bob, And I'm

666
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.440
gonna just be blunt here real because
he's never blunt ever, No, never,

667
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:08.559
I've never seen it. Yours is
unfettered. Your physique since ninety six,

668
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.920
you've trimmed down at the waist,
You've gotten a little bit bigger up

669
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:17.480
top. You've obviously given a ship
about your longevity, which is why you're

670
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:24.719
still so prominent these days, right, is only becoming more of like an

671
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:36.079
athletic sport finally for once. And
the reason you're still your decision to follow

672
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:37.719
that. Like what am I trying
to get out here? You're trying to

673
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.519
say is that is it just that
anybody who has a good skilled kid,

674
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:45.079
dude? But do you have to
actually take care of yourself physically? I

675
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.880
mean, I'm forty. Everything wants
to go down. O Cho's sixty five,

676
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.119
ageless and timeless, you know,
but like there has to come a

677
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:58.800
point where like the knee bend doesn't
go up, there is the shoulder doesn't

678
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.480
go back. You You've always been
a leg bowlder. You get your speed

679
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:05.559
from your legs. Your back swing
has never gotten higher and right, and

680
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:09.679
you slide and you're always committed at
the bottom. Do you have any tips

681
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:15.719
for people that are either getting into
the sport or getting a little bit older

682
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:21.039
in the sport, Not old,
just older in the sport Because you've always

683
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:28.960
been powerful at the bottom. You've
always to me your speed and your awesome

684
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:32.519
as has always been generated by your
lower half. Is that is that cool

685
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.400
to say? No, that's true. Yeah, So what are you doing

686
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:43.679
as you get a little bit older
to maintain that lower half? Your crouch

687
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:45.920
at the line, you're a little
bit forward, you got one hand on

688
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:51.039
the ball. You're like, what
are you doing to keep yourself in tip

689
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:54.400
top bowling shape? Well, I
can honestly say, in the last year

690
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:58.280
or so, I need I need
to get back to working at it.

691
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.400
But uh, a little to try
to set my right wrist, and it

692
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:06.400
keeps you from doing some of the
things I like to do as far as

693
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:12.960
lifting and whatnot. But listen,
I've been very fortunate because there's a lot

694
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:17.960
of guys that weren't as aggressive with
their legs and going into their knee bend

695
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:23.320
and all that and uh and you
know, had injuries with their knees their

696
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:30.679
hips, and I just haven't.
I was always very athletic when I was

697
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:35.920
young, and I've never wanted to
sit. I like to be doing something

698
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:40.400
all the time. And I've been
fortunate enough that I'm sixty one now and

699
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:45.320
I'm telling you my and it's probably
changed as soon as I say it,

700
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.599
but my legs, my knees,
my hips. Nothing. Don't say,

701
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:54.039
don't get all right, but I
mean I've just been fortunate that way.

702
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:58.960
I still run at a very high
clip. I can run fast still.

703
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.039
In fact, my kids when on
my college to go what was that?

704
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:06.920
I go, what do you mean
to go? I mean just run in

705
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:08.440
like, yeah, but you were
running, you were running. I'm like,

706
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:13.119
yeah, I know. But so
I've never really lost that. It

707
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.599
hasn't been anything that I've had to
truly focus on. Even though my legs

708
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:22.760
are my key, I haven't had
to do anything excessive with them. I

709
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:28.039
still still find myself in a pretty
good place with a you know, as

710
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:35.440
far as that goes. I'm sorry
to cut you off, but I've totally

711
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:37.639
interrupted Rob for like the last thirty
minutes, and I have to send it

712
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:43.039
back to our gracious hosts. Rob. I'd assume I had you have something

713
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:47.679
to talk to miss to learn about. Well, I promise it's all right,

714
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:51.880
it's all right. It's it's still
your show, So I mean,

715
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:58.039
it's it's all good. I did
have a couple of questions, but Johnny's

716
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.960
rambling just kind of made me forget
about what. I'm good you probably he

717
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:06.480
probably hit it anyway, though that's
the other thing. No, I'm just

718
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.960
gonna say through six degrees of separation. I was actually at Mohagan Sun when

719
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:15.920
you won that event because I lived
just north of Hartford and Bradley Bull was

720
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.800
my home ball so I knew they
were coming to the casino and I love

721
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:23.320
Mohagan Sun like it's still one of
the coolest casinos ever, and I haven't

722
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:27.360
I live in Tennessee. Now,
I kind of missed going back there,

723
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:30.920
but it's just it's just kind of
weird how things work out and how people

724
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:36.119
end up getting connected. But yeah, I was there to watch you win

725
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:37.360
that event, so it was it
was really cool to see that in person.

726
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:44.760
Well, and you know, as
a and at that time I was

727
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:49.199
with a MF. AMF was sponsoring
it. It was also a lot going

728
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.559
on there because AMF was at that
time looking to get out of the boling

729
00:56:52.639 --> 00:57:00.719
ball business. And even with that
win, it didn't say that, but

730
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:02.760
I had thought, you know,
winning this, well, you know,

731
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:07.719
they kept on some guy named Dick
Weber. I don't know if you ever

732
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:13.400
heard of him, but they kept
him hunt as an ambassador who was an

733
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.000
amazing person to work with and travel
with. Got to do a lot of

734
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:21.760
travel with him, both in Europe
and Asia and watched him do his magic.

735
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.320
And so I learned a lot from
being around Dick Weber as well.

736
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:30.239
That's that's really cool. And obviously
everybody loved Dick Weber. I don't think

737
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:32.400
anybody outside of the sport, even
in the sport, had anything bad to

738
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:37.519
say about him. Who were some
of your favorite bullers to watch? Like,

739
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.199
were you a fan of bullying as
a kid, did you watch bullying

740
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.039
on TV? Who did you love
to see on TV or follow? Or

741
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:49.880
do you just love bowllying in general? Well, I don't know anyone honestly

742
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:55.360
who doesn't remember why we were sports
right, and and everybody did watch bowling,

743
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:59.000
whether they were bullers or not.
It was just, you know,

744
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.480
it was a lead into wilettle sports
is what people do something, man,

745
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:08.280
That's what it was exactly. So
you know everybody did it. Of course

746
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:12.519
I did it. When the show
was over, there was enough time to

747
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.159
run over the bowling center and get
two games in before they oiled for legs,

748
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.800
so that I could imitate whoever bowled
well that day, you know,

749
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:22.119
do my best limitation. You know, someone need to work on maybe I

750
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:25.480
could do that. Maybe that's better
for me, you know. So yeah,

751
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.840
I was tuned in every week.
I mean I I couldn't wait for

752
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:34.119
it, just like I couldn't wait
for Saturday morning to bowl my junior league.

753
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.159
You know. But I see,
you know, even people now that

754
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.000
I do lessons where they're like,
oh man, I just even as a

755
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:43.679
kid, even though I did bowl
back then, I used to watch bowling

756
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:46.280
all the time on TV. And
that's how it was. It was it

757
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:50.840
was just what you did on Saturday. Yeah, it is. It absolutely

758
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.599
wasn't. I mean, you know, just my mom worked at Bradley Bowl,

759
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.960
so I was around there quite a
bit, and you know, I

760
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.760
love hanging around. When the tour
came in, and he used to be

761
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.480
one of the one of the top
tour spots for a while. Well it

762
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:07.599
was big because you had to win
there if you wanted to go on to

763
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:13.800
the tournament champions last tournament going in. Yep, yeah, that's absolutely right.

764
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:15.840
So it was cool for me to
kind of see a lot of the

765
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:19.840
guys that I saw on TV,
you know, like Marshall Holman, Bob

766
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.599
you know. I got to talk
to Chris Shankle, who was such a

767
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:27.920
nice guy. It smoked like a
chimney, but I mean he's yeah,

768
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:32.760
yeah, yeah I did, but
uh I forgot that was the great thing

769
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:38.719
is honestly, I mean I did
like watch watching Holman. I just thought

770
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:43.559
because how he did things were was
just different. But I also, you

771
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:47.800
know, liked watching so many others. To watch someone as precise as Earl

772
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:52.800
Anthony throw bon ball, yeah,
I mean I could honestly say I watched

773
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:57.320
him week in week out and never
saw that guy cheetah shot not once.

774
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:01.400
I never I mean, how does
that happen? I never saw him do

775
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:07.599
it once? And uh I still
have him in my mind. He's the

776
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:10.199
greatest bowler I've ever seen, bold
because he was just when they call him

777
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:15.599
Dune's day machine. He he was
that. He wasn't you know, it

778
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:22.840
wasn't yeah like a Homan to watch
with energy and you know Johnny p had,

779
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.800
you know, he was energetic when
he when he bowled, he just

780
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:28.679
went about his business. But the
way he did it was just like this

781
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:31.679
guy is different. He's from another
planet. He was smooth man, he

782
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:37.039
was a stone could killer dude.
He was ice cold. Yeah for the

783
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.280
convo, But who's the best bowler. You've ever seen bold, That's what

784
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:49.840
he's about. So the best I've
ever seen in their prime. Yeah,

785
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:55.400
you. Wayne Webb was actually pretty
damn good. He really was. He

786
01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:00.760
could do a lot right, He
could do a lot of different things about

787
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:06.159
brainwall. I would see him come
in and scores were like, you know,

788
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:08.840
nothing, and he came into the
shoot two on a rover like like

789
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:12.800
nothing, but you watch the ball
and he was able to trick it up

790
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.920
and do different things with all A
lot of guys didn't have as many tools

791
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:22.119
in the back and you know,
so he was definitely impressive when he when

792
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:29.440
he was blowing, well, I
tell me zone. Oftentimes on this show,

793
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:34.920
I try and tell our novice viewers
everybody has a place that they migrate

794
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:38.320
to. Like for instance, me, my right foot goes to twenty seven

795
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:45.280
twenty eight on the approach, whether
that's thirteen twelve or fourteen at the arrows

796
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:50.679
going out to eight seven six.
Oto targets with his right foot. He

797
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:54.760
likes to go off the crack.
I mean, like, where is your

798
01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:00.400
zone? Do you have one?
You know, that's really interesting question because

799
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:07.480
I never felt like I really did
well. You were great from in and

800
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:12.800
great from out. Yeah. I
mean I've one page from all those angles

801
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:16.320
and made shows from those angles.
I would think that later, as I

802
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:22.960
got a little older, I became
better really just playing right on the gutter

803
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:27.159
as much as people knew me for
a cooking ball, I could throw it

804
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:32.119
really firm and keep it online playing
out really well. It's because I worked

805
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:36.559
on it so much, because Walter
ray Wims kept running me over every Friday.

806
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.280
I'm like, I gotta get better
at doing this, you know.

807
01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:43.920
And then I had practiced so much
it became my favorite way to bowl.

808
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:49.000
I asked you this because ironically,
I talked to my dad about this a

809
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.239
lot, and my dad won most
of his titles playing the gutter, like

810
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:57.000
flaming it up the gutter with rubber, your thing, whatever it was.

811
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.480
And nowadays, ever since ninety four, my dad wants to curve the ball.

812
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:04.440
He wants to hook the ball.
Yeah, And I'm like, Dad,

813
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.480
just go back to the gutter,
like throw a spy, throw a

814
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:12.519
raw hammer, throw a purple irrothan
He's like, you can't do that anymore.

815
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:16.440
Dad wants to curve it now.
So when all the lefties are out

816
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:21.280
and Dad has a little bit of
push in. He's like, oh shit,

817
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:25.880
I got the nuts from the fourth
arrow and your polar opposite. It's

818
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:31.960
crazed. So again, to all
of our viewers, there is no Bob

819
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:37.559
back me on this. There is
no right way to bowl. You got

820
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:43.519
a bowl with Arnold Palmers. You're
never gonna have your best game. You're

821
01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.400
never gonna have the same game you
had yesterday. You may have it for

822
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:51.840
like a streak of four or five
weeks, but you have to play what

823
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.840
you have in front of you.
And it sounds like to you, throwing

824
01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:00.800
it that way or forward or firm
is the same way my dad feels when

825
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:04.199
he can play the fourth rough Is
that Is that kind of like a fair

826
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:10.880
assessment? Yeah, I well,
you know, I know from my own

827
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:15.559
standpoint, being aggressive is where I
like to be. So being able to

828
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:19.639
stay firm and play out actually is
more comfortable because I use my legs and

829
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:24.400
whatnot. And for your dad,
he likes, he likes that. He's

830
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:28.239
a touch, touch guy, you
know, like you know, he's he's

831
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:32.800
just he's But I've only known him. I've always known him as being more

832
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:36.639
to the soft side. And that's
a lot to do with you know,

833
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:42.639
some of the guys who have success
like Mike Alby and stuff back during that

834
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.320
time, you know, so that's
probably what got him to start doing that

835
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:49.440
as well, to be able to
conform to what they were going on,

836
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:58.920
you know, so they're bowling on
tour is all about timing. If you

837
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:01.519
go out to the right time,
I mean, your game plays to it,

838
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.159
then you have success. And there's
so many guys that went out there

839
01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:11.719
that were amazing bowlers that went out
at the wrong time. Bob. My

840
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:15.920
last question before I give it back
to rad Rob, I asked everybody that

841
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:21.400
ever comes on our show. I
know it's a shitty question, but what's

842
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:30.239
your favorite bowling ball of all time? Well? Yeah, that's a hard

843
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:32.320
one, right, that really is
a hard one. Take your time.

844
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.639
Well wait, I mean if you
don't say that, I can honestly say

845
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:42.519
my favorite ball that I that I
can remember when I was younger was the

846
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:46.840
Johnny p Lt forty eight growing up
on Locker, growing up on Lacker,

847
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:53.679
throwing rubber, right, that's what
I did. Uh So, yeah,

848
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:58.679
that's that's a big one. In
the nineties when I was having a lot

849
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:02.360
of my success, I would say
that the Process one and two, which

850
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:09.039
were red not white. There was
cherry colored those balls. I used a

851
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:15.639
lot of those back and the white
one, the white white that was due

852
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:25.920
to Kakapoo families. I mean,
yeah, what did uh how much had

853
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.519
resin changed the game? Like people
talk about how great you know that the

854
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:31.800
teal runner pro was and and the
quantum and all that, But I mean,

855
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:36.159
like that had to be one of
the most revolutionary things that happened,

856
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:40.760
since you went from rubber to plastic
to in your thing and so on.

857
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.000
How how big was it and how
much did it changed the game in the

858
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:50.480
nineties, Well, how we applied
uh, rotation changed a lot so to

859
01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:58.159
get plastic balls and rubber balls and
regular earthane balls to react or respond more.

860
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:00.719
You did that by hitting up on
the ball. You actually got that

861
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:05.519
ball to read earlier by doing that
and created hook. Once we had reactive

862
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:11.320
That's one thing that would kill you
is it would create uh, you know

863
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:15.280
a lot of inconsistency in your breakpoint. So getting the ball in the lane

864
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:20.199
being cleaner at the bottom then became
much much bigger, and so there was

865
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:26.239
a lot of guys that got caught
in that transition that still were hitting up

866
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:29.800
on the ball that still were doing
things that you know they did so well

867
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:34.079
before reactive, and it took them
a while or too long, some of

868
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:42.400
them to be able to adapt to
changing that. You know, it changed

869
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:45.440
everything. I mean your range of
motion became you know huge. Where you

870
01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:49.800
had this, now you have I
don't have enough room on a stream,

871
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:57.079
right, and a great question.
This is a great question. I'm going

872
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:02.840
to use you as as the example. You won the light and something your

873
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:10.719
thing right, your thing, your
thing. I want to be the lanes

874
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:20.760
open because you're from this arrow to
this hour, you're moost three hundred's ever

875
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:30.479
obviously Parker may that everybody was chasing
for a long time, But you've always

876
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.159
been comfortable on both sides. So
I guess my question is I'm kind of

877
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:36.840
the same way. If I'm on
the rail with plastic, you can't beat

878
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:41.479
me, and if I have holed
from the fifth arrow, you also can't

879
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:47.039
beat me, at least at the
league level. But like, when do

880
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:54.079
you favor do you favor jamming it
up the gut or do you favor slowing

881
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:58.600
everything down and like whipping it from
inside? Like what what do you want

882
01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:03.319
to do when you're out there?
Well? Ones eat. I mean,

883
01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:06.960
if I go firm from out,
it's much easier to control the pocket.

884
01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:11.600
Right. The transitions when I hook
the ball and go pair to pair are

885
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.960
all over the place. So I
mean, in today's world, if I

886
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:20.560
can stay square to the lane at
least early in the day, I try

887
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:26.000
to, because transition from pair to
pair, it's it's a it's a crap

888
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:30.880
shoot. You know, you got
guys playing the lanes all over the place.

889
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.479
They're not necessarily playing the pattern.
And I'm referring it's worse on the

890
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:40.279
on the Young tour. They like
to move in and just burn a spot

891
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:43.439
and just hit it harder. You
know, they're not even adhering to what

892
01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.439
the what the pattern is built for, right, but they all do it,

893
01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:53.279
so you know they kind of work
together in that. But this on

894
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:58.640
the Senior tour, you know,
it's different. The ratios are different,

895
01:09:59.159 --> 01:10:03.439
the patterns are different, and so
software is usually better than firm. So

896
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.760
it really is. I mean,
there's not there's not a great answer to

897
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:11.960
that. But if I had my
my choice would be straighter is greater,

898
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.640
not having to deal with much change
when I go from pair to pair.

899
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:19.600
Now, I don't want to get
you in any heat with any with anybody,

900
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:24.319
Bob. But obviously, you know, there's been controversy about certain balls

901
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:27.720
in the last years, so and
right now, the Purple Hammer seems to

902
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:31.840
be the big focus. Being a
member of the Brunswick family. Uh.

903
01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:35.319
Number one, what do you think
about the Purple Hammer? Do you think

904
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:38.760
it's one of the greatest balls ever? Number two? Why do you think

905
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:44.520
the USBC or the PBA maybe out
to get rid of it? What's your

906
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:49.720
what are your thoughts on that whole
situation? That's uh, yeah, well

907
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:57.279
listen, I do have to say
that I can't remember when they made a

908
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:03.000
rule that was specifically targeting one by
when Reactive came out, they should have

909
01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:11.600
done it and didn't. Yeah,
well that's true. Let them go,

910
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:14.279
Let them go, let them go. So when it comes to the Purple

911
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.840
I mean, you have guys that
are dominating with it. Nobody can replicate

912
01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:28.800
it, and and realized that this
wasn't a Brunswick thing until they acquired hammer,

913
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:32.319
Ebonite and brands of ebonite, so
you know, but it was still

914
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:38.560
it was dominant then and it remained
dominant and nobody could really figure out,

915
01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:43.439
you know, how to how to
create a ball like that. Now,

916
01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:47.119
as far as the rules go with
the p BA, rules were very simple

917
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:54.399
when I was on tour in the
early days. One when you were getting

918
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:57.920
the ball drilled, you'd go in
and check it in. They'd so to

919
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.000
be cleared. They would the meal
hole in, they checked the in and

920
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:05.000
out outer the hardness of a ball. They'd weigh it and let you know

921
01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:10.399
that it, you know, met
specifications. If you brought that ball back

922
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:15.720
after qualifying and it was below what
the hardness should be, they would let

923
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:17.439
it sit. They'd give it a
period of time. I think it was

924
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:21.479
forty five minutes, and then they
would check it again and if it didn't

925
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:27.920
pass, then you know you're in
trouble. But the rule was the rule.

926
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:31.560
So if you have a hardness rule, then that should be the rule.

927
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:35.880
So if you have a ball that's
reading above that hardness, then it

928
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:40.079
should be in play. If you
have a ball of falls below it,

929
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:45.640
very simple, take it out of
play. Why would you go after And

930
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:48.760
now this happened with Storm products as
well. You know they went after a

931
01:12:48.840 --> 01:12:54.800
lot of their a lot of their
stuff all at once. It was a

932
01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:58.920
blank It was a blanket rule.
Right. Take all these guys are out.

933
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:01.760
These guys can't throw these balls.
Well, if the ball was within

934
01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:08.119
you know, specifications and it should
be able to be used or in play,

935
01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:13.199
just like balls now can't be two
years old that are reactive. If

936
01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:15.840
you want to bowl a national tour, there's a life. There's a life

937
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:21.239
to that as well, not just
your thing. So why I mean,

938
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:25.520
you know a lot of guys sat
on older stuff, not because of hook,

939
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:29.560
more because it gave them control that
other balls, and today they're so

940
01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:31.439
big. I mean, I'd like
to go back to some of the stuff

941
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:35.880
that's a little calmer. You know. I've held on to somebody just for

942
01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:42.439
that and now they're taking that away. So whose advantage is it to take

943
01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:47.399
that away? I really don't understand
that rule. Again, if we check

944
01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:54.079
balls every time when we got done
bowling, the ball made made it by

945
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:59.439
hardness rules, then you can you
can bowl it if it's illegal, if

946
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:04.600
it doesn't mean the specifications and his
story. Yeah, there's been a lack

947
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:09.239
of transparency from the USBC and the
p b A about about why they're doing

948
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:12.520
what they're doing. So we just
try to ask, you know, whoever

949
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:15.119
we have on the show, their
their general thoughts on it, But it

950
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.119
just seems strange at least, and
I know the storm went through, but

951
01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:26.439
now like the focus is is the
purple and but on that though, you

952
01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:30.399
have had guys that have had so
much success with the purple, Troy Lint

953
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:32.560
being one of our our good friends
here on the show and always in the

954
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:36.680
Chad, who's who's here watching?
You're both on the PBA fifty tour.

955
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:43.159
Can you kind of put into words
like the run that that Troy had this

956
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:45.319
year? Well, now I know
why I was beating me son of them.

957
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:58.640
Now listen, he's he's a great
player, and he had a great

958
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:02.399
season all and he's a hard worker. So I mean that's a that's a

959
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:08.800
great recipe for success. Right,
Well, I'm happy for Troy for a

960
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:12.479
long time, well against him for
a long time. He's always been a

961
01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:19.720
really good player. Yeah he has, and and Troy is ready to like

962
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:24.520
find himself, which he has been
for a long time. And I think

963
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:29.399
on top of that, because let's
be honest, forget the purple ball,

964
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:33.920
he'll kick ass next year without the
purple wall. He was allowed to.

965
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:39.000
He may leave more nine counts,
he may leave. This is not but

966
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:45.640
I feel like Troy is the wrong
person here because Troy has dedicated his entire

967
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:51.399
life to bowling, just like Bob. They go to stops with the intention,

968
01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:58.359
the intent to win, the intent
to get the biggest check, and

969
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:04.439
they go there with a purpose.
And to me, maybe the purple ball

970
01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:08.720
help. But Troy decided, at
fifty five years old, I'm gonna be

971
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:11.479
so sober right now and go out
there and kick ass. I'm going to

972
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:14.840
room with the guys that are better
than me, the guys that have done

973
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:17.399
more than me. I'm gonna associate
myself with the people that are better than

974
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:19.720
me, and I'm going to learn
how to be like them. That's the

975
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:26.960
kind of brain Troy, and that
Bomb has always been miss talking about you,

976
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:31.640
and it's it's very sexy to me
to watch that kind of ship with

977
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:35.279
all the respect, you know,
like I don't want to get take the

978
01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:39.279
purple ball and fucking shove it out
of my ass for all, for all

979
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:41.960
I care. I don't give a
ship doesn't mean shit if you're into that.

980
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:46.840
If you're if you're into that,
you never know, call me and

981
01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:55.520
or just message yeah. But the
unfettered is is totally with what Bob just

982
01:16:55.600 --> 01:17:01.920
said, is this is a fun
sport. Guys, we have somebody like

983
01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:08.600
this gentleman on this show, and
guys like Troy and Bob representing say because

984
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:13.560
this is a fucking sport that we
all love and the reason we I'm losing

985
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:15.640
it. I'm losing it. I'm
losing it because you know me, because

986
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:21.079
I'll be a skill that's all at
me. Help me, help me,

987
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:30.000
help you help me. Bob,
We're gonna say a conversation because we're all

988
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:39.399
very passionate. I guess Bob real
quick. Our next my room with him

989
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:42.560
the year that he threw the Nate
three shows of the World series in twenty

990
01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:45.640
ten. Ryan hates your thing.
He hates it, doesn't want to throw

991
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:49.680
it anymore, even though he's like
the new age cultivator of it. It's

992
01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:59.439
these are like, I think we're
looking at the senior version of Ryan Stimonelli

993
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.920
and Troy or like, let's call
him Jason Gouch. Let's call Troy the

994
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:09.600
younger version of a Jason Couch,
and let's call Ryan similarly, the future

995
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:15.640
Robert Smith. They're not just generic. This is not Scott Deavers, this

996
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:19.399
is not Mike Scroggins. I love
them both but like you know, Bob,

997
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:25.520
you've both against them. This is
like Patrick Allen learning how to not

998
01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:30.279
hammered at the bottom and then come
win four hundred grand in a single season.

999
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.079
To me, those two guys are
trying to figure out the game the

1000
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:36.439
same way you have. And I
have a little bit of a partial,

1001
01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:41.039
you know, like I can't I
can't let go of it, you know

1002
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:49.439
type shit? Is that cool?
Yeah? Yeah, I feel a bit

1003
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:56.119
passionate, and don't ever argue with
somebody that's passionate. Is there in the

1004
01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:00.760
chat that has questions for Bob before
we let Bob go, Rob, do

1005
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:03.760
you have any questions? I want
to I want to stop digging his brain.

1006
01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:11.479
But like my last comment of this, Bob, since I was twelve

1007
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:15.920
years old watching you do that with
that RPM swirl, I'm always in your

1008
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:18.680
corner. I love you to death. You've always been a great man,

1009
01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:26.239
Stacey, Brandon, Brindy, love
your entire family and you're just the best.

1010
01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:28.760
Dude. Thank you so much for
being here. I dude, guys,

1011
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.319
thanks for having me on, Rob. Thank you. I had one

1012
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:36.279
just follow up kind of question on
the alternate side on the on the national

1013
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:42.760
tour this year, Une. People
have another question I'm not doing so you've

1014
01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:49.159
been talking the whole time. Yeah, right on the national tour. Can

1015
01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:54.319
you kind of describe how EJ did
this year? And I know your friends

1016
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:56.680
Lim and it had to be cool
to see the success that he had this

1017
01:19:56.800 --> 01:20:02.079
year, but yeah, it's it's
remarkable that we see in both tours dominant

1018
01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:06.880
runs. And you know, we
talked about a few weeks ago if EJ

1019
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:11.479
had the number of tournaments you guys
had on a national tour back in the

1020
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:14.439
eighties and nineties, who knows what
what what what he would have done.

1021
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:17.199
He may have eclipsed what Roth did. But just kind of describe how fun

1022
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:21.640
it was to watch EJ this year
and put into historical perspective, you know,

1023
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:26.239
the success that he had. That's
a good question. I mean,

1024
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:31.359
first of all, when you when
you know the level that he's playing against,

1025
01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:36.560
right, how good those players are, and every single week he's leading.

1026
01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:41.159
It wasn't like he was trying to
get there. He was just dominating.

1027
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:46.840
And and you know, first of
all, obviously throws it pretty amazing,

1028
01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:49.119
and second of all, he's not
afraid to let go of it,

1029
01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:55.079
and when he sees what he likes
to see look out. So the thing

1030
01:20:55.199 --> 01:21:00.159
is when he sees it, try
to outstrike that guy right and to see

1031
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:05.039
it. And he was able to
strike better than anybody. And historically,

1032
01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:09.920
yeah, you're right, how many
weeks did they get the Bowl in compare

1033
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.840
comparison to what we had? There's
this flip side of that, though,

1034
01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:17.840
is can you bowl forty two games, you know, every week making the

1035
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:24.199
finals over thirty weeks? Can you
hold up? You know? Because even

1036
01:21:24.319 --> 01:21:27.359
back then when you had the hardiest
of players, they would have to take

1037
01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:30.680
a week here, a week they're
off back then in the game. Now

1038
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:34.560
with the power that these guys possess, you know, can can you hold

1039
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:39.920
up as well? Under that?
But amazing to watch? I love watching

1040
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:45.600
them ball. It makes it look
easy, and you know, the hard

1041
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:49.760
thing for him is much like like
anyone who's had a three hundred on TV,

1042
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:56.520
getting ready to come out start a
new season and try to live up

1043
01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:00.760
to a season that really, I
mean, it's a once in a lifetime

1044
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:04.239
season. You know, how can
you live up to it? Probably not,

1045
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:09.399
and that's fine, but it's hard
not to put that pressure on yourself,

1046
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:13.039
you know, to come out and
try to say this you know,

1047
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:17.039
this year may be just as great. And I feel bad for Simo because

1048
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:19.319
hell, he was in top five
just but every week too. And I

1049
01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:24.119
mean you could tell that he was
getting frustrated during the season because he's thinking,

1050
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:26.560
what the hell else do I have
to do? This guy's on top

1051
01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:29.560
every single week. I'm bowling my
ass off as well. I mean,

1052
01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:32.039
it was just kind of cool to
see how everything just kind of came out

1053
01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:35.359
this past season. It was just
it was fun to watch. It was

1054
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:39.760
and there again, there was a
lot of a lot of great players at

1055
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:42.880
the top there, so I mean
he was I mean, he was obviously

1056
01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:47.720
running and not looking back, but
there were people chasing him. But at

1057
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:50.640
the same time, he had some
great players, right, you know,

1058
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:56.000
willing to take that spot if if
he would relinquish it, and he just

1059
01:22:56.039 --> 01:23:01.239
would right right. My final question, Bob, and we've asked past guests

1060
01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:06.840
about this, obviously, Jason Bulmoni
changed the game when he won as much

1061
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:10.119
as he did with the two handing
style. He wasn't the first one to

1062
01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:14.600
do it, but he was the
first one to have that much unparalleled success

1063
01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.079
with it. And now he kind
of spawned a whole new generation of kids

1064
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:23.199
that ball two handed into which maybe
ten, fifteen, twenty years from now,

1065
01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:25.960
you may not see that many one
handed bullets anymore. They may all

1066
01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:30.439
be two handed, likely like Brian
Voss. Brian Voss has had a problem

1067
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:34.159
with it. He's been very outspoken
about it, and I kind of get

1068
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:38.760
where he's coming from. But where
do you fall on that? Do you

1069
01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:44.479
think the future is two handed?
Why do you think there's so many detractors?

1070
01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:48.359
What a great question, rob great
quest. So when it comes to

1071
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:53.199
the one handed delivery, you know, there's a lot of practice that goes

1072
01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:58.880
into being able to relax the thumb
and then you know, have enough time

1073
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:03.039
with the fingers right and create reverrae. And it's an art form. Really,

1074
01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:08.880
you have your great days or when
that's just going flawlessly. Your bad

1075
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:13.560
days is when you cannot seem to
clear as good as you as you otherwise

1076
01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:20.960
would. So that is one side
that is obviously, you know that's that's

1077
01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:26.920
a huge benefit for two handers.
The other is obviously they can create higher

1078
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:32.680
reverrae. And the thing is people
can pick up one handed bowling and work

1079
01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:35.640
at it, and I can have
a two hander to do the same and

1080
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:41.399
a two hander will go from here
to here in a very short period of

1081
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:45.880
time, and so it's a huge
advantage. There's gonna be more people doing

1082
01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:49.600
it, and you have to embrace
it at this point because it is it

1083
01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:53.880
is what it is. You're not
gonna be able to stop it, you

1084
01:24:54.000 --> 01:25:00.920
know, you know, and I
know John Johnny's dad, he always says

1085
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:06.439
this, Each generation learns from the
one before it. That's why they get

1086
01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:11.720
better. The reason why too handed
became a thing is because there was a

1087
01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:17.319
power game that was developed generation before
that that was more powerful than the game

1088
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:23.279
was played before that. So it's
a progression and how that, you know,

1089
01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:28.680
that gets translated. Power became a
bigger part of the game, and

1090
01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:33.000
two handed bullying was an easier way
to achieve it. And there's gonna be

1091
01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:38.479
there's good. There's amazing two hands
that we haven't seen yet. But it

1092
01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:44.000
all really came to the forefront because
of Jason Bamonte. Chuck Landy did it

1093
01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:47.800
back in the I don't know,
maybe late eighties, early nineties, somewhere

1094
01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:50.520
in there. He was doing it. He didn't have the rev rate,

1095
01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:57.720
but he was doing it too hand
and nobody could play then true so it

1096
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:02.119
didn't matter and he wanted some agion
oles and stuff. Yeah, I'm gonna

1097
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:06.079
pay a little homage to oh Scoop
p Lerma because he was the first two

1098
01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:14.399
hend or I ever saw in the
old four US er in one of the

1099
01:26:14.439 --> 01:26:17.640
matches. That was the first I
will I will tell you this. I

1100
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:25.000
I bowled him. I bowed him
the eighth game Thursday night. I mean

1101
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:28.520
they were they were hooking, you
know, us open you don't, you

1102
01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:32.600
know, as we've seen over the
years, left left gut or nothing left

1103
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.039
on the lane. And I'm bowling, I'm bowing Osco and I can I

1104
01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:41.239
can still throw it pretty darn hard, and I can still get on it

1105
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:48.159
pretty good back then. And I'm
bowing against him and I shoot like one

1106
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:53.000
ninety, just give it all I
got And She's to forty two at me,

1107
01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:58.720
and I'm going, oh my god, what the foll could you stop

1108
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:04.279
this? Right was going like,
oh my god. Also, and I'll

1109
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:09.359
be honest at that moment, I
thought, having seen Belmont and seeing him,

1110
01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:12.720
I thought he was the guy.
I'm like, this guy, Holy

1111
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:18.199
cow, He honestly is the most
powerful bowler I've ever seen ball. If

1112
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:23.439
you watch him on video. I
mean, he's just close to his ankle,

1113
01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:28.279
he's so far underneath the ball at
the point of release, yet he

1114
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:40.319
starts amazing, amazing absolutes. But
the one thing that Jason became better at

1115
01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:46.239
was manipulating mid lane touch. There's
I mean, you know, he took

1116
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:50.479
away some of his power and created
a better touch and be able to manage

1117
01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:56.640
the lane better. Oscu. I
love watching the throat, love him shredding

1118
01:27:56.720 --> 01:28:02.920
pins, but I really always hoped. I always hoped for more success because

1119
01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:06.640
I thought he was just a tremendous
athlete. You and I can take Ostu

1120
01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:11.199
to any action match, on any
house shot that will win a new house,

1121
01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:15.840
and then ye, the messenger comes
back twice. I forget you,

1122
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:24.840
Yes, get away. I was
gonna say, we're close to running out

1123
01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:27.880
of times. So if there's any
questions in the chat, you know you

1124
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:31.600
guys want to ask Bob real quick. But uh, I think most people

1125
01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:36.800
have always want to know who your
favorite opponent was. Do you have anybody

1126
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:42.600
you always look forward to bullying against
or was there anybody that you feared?

1127
01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:48.199
Well, obviously, if I look
at my record, I feared anybody that

1128
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:53.680
bowled me in the title because she
too fifty or better at me. So

1129
01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:59.520
that was the thing the matter what
I did. Uh No, who do

1130
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:03.119
I really for to? You know? Going back to my very first TV

1131
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:09.119
show, I mean having watched Roth
and Holman bowl when I was growing up,

1132
01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:13.119
and my first show was the World
Open and I don't know eighty four

1133
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:17.119
and my first matches against Mark Roth. Wow, and if I beat him,

1134
01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:23.359
I have the whole Marshall Holman.
So it was like a day of

1135
01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:26.399
all days for me just to be
in that in that place, right,

1136
01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:30.239
they were still in their prime and
here I was just trying to find my

1137
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:38.399
place in the sport. And I
mean that was really a really memorable moment

1138
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:45.239
getting a bowl on TV against that
guy who was so dominant over the years.

1139
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:48.079
I would say the one that I
really did have trouble beating, uh

1140
01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:54.600
would be would be Duke. Yeah. I always you always seem to have

1141
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:59.920
my number, and uh, I
would say he was my hardest opponent.

1142
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:04.840
We do have a question from Jeff
Skyers Bob any other colleges approach to you

1143
01:30:04.920 --> 01:30:12.760
about coaching, especially here in Florida. Well, I loved college coaching and

1144
01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:17.199
I do want to do it again. I did have a few that reached

1145
01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:26.239
out. They were in places that
were remote and not any place that I

1146
01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:32.279
could convince myself or my wife to
move to to take on the role of

1147
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:35.920
coach. But I really do hope
I have another opportunity at it. We

1148
01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:43.680
enjoyed it, both my wife and
I coached at Martin Methodists and then UT

1149
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:48.760
Southern and and we had a great
time doing it. I can't I can't

1150
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:54.720
see myself not trying to do it
once again, right right? Are you

1151
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:59.800
looking forward to TMUSA competitions coming up? Well, I'm always I'm always,

1152
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:09.199
of course looking forward to it.
I was looking forward to coaching in Kuwait.

1153
01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:14.520
Myself and Brian were going to be
over there for nineteen days coaching the

1154
01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:20.880
men's and women's team in the Paralympics, but we withdrew from that event for

1155
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:28.680
a number of reasons. So this
time it's going to be the seniors alone

1156
01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:31.680
going to Colombia. I'm not on
the squad to bowl. I did not

1157
01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:38.159
at Anamian even to try to bowl
for him, but I would have loved

1158
01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:41.479
to coach him. I would have
loved to Kelly Kulik is going to be

1159
01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:46.399
going over there to coach those teams. But yeah, I mean, there

1160
01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:50.680
is no greater honor than to be
able to put the shirt on for no

1161
01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:55.680
money, no money, There's nothing
at stake there, right except for pride,

1162
01:31:56.079 --> 01:32:02.119
pride being able to represent your country. You just can't. You can't

1163
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:05.880
say enough about what that means.
Very first time I got to do it,

1164
01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:12.399
Johnny p was on the team and
he bowed amazing. By the way,

1165
01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:16.560
when Johnny was talking about me having
a broken wrist, that was my

1166
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:20.640
first shot at bowling for TSA.
We weren't eligible when I was younger.

1167
01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:26.279
We weren't allowed to bowl as storing
players, so it was really my first

1168
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:30.479
opportunity as a senior to do it. But yeah, great honor. It's

1169
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:34.079
the closest thing you can get to, you know, representing your country and

1170
01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:39.720
the Olympics, which we've discussed adding
ausing here on the show as to why

1171
01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:45.359
it'll probably never be in the Olympics
because of the different variations between lefties and

1172
01:32:45.439 --> 01:32:48.239
righty's laying conditions, breakdowns, balls, and you know, you can't you

1173
01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:54.239
can't have an even playing field for
everyone. It came close, I believe

1174
01:32:54.279 --> 01:32:57.800
in the mid nineties, somewhere around
ninety four ninety five, it was upper

1175
01:32:57.880 --> 01:33:01.520
vote and never passed. But in
your opinion, you don't think you'll ever

1176
01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:04.479
become an official sport. I mean, we got break dancing for crying aloud,

1177
01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:08.119
but we can't get bowling in there. So do you think it'll ever

1178
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:12.039
happen? Is there any way that
they could try to make it even for

1179
01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:19.359
everybody? Well, actually, when
when they when they have reasonings for it,

1180
01:33:20.039 --> 01:33:26.359
they claim that that falls quite quite
a ways down the list. But

1181
01:33:26.479 --> 01:33:30.239
that being said, when we were
in Japan, being that Japan was so

1182
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:40.960
competitive in bowling and the host country
has an opportunity to choose a couple of

1183
01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:45.439
sports that they that they want added
to the Olympics, and they chose surfing,

1184
01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:49.359
And uh, I was I really, I really I couldn't believe it.

1185
01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:54.880
There was a great effort to try
to get us into the Olympics in

1186
01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:59.399
Japan. They're highly competitive, they
would definitely have made runs for medals,

1187
01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:04.239
and they chose surfing over us.
So I would love to stay optimistic and

1188
01:34:04.319 --> 01:34:09.840
say it'll happen one day. But
that's that that I thought was just a

1189
01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:13.520
golden opportunity for us to get there, and we did. Yeah, I

1190
01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:16.800
absolutely agree with that it's unfortunate.
It's the second most you know, participory

1191
01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:24.479
sport you know there is, It's
just I don't know. It's the things

1192
01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:29.159
that they allow in there that are
not sports, like break dancing. Uh,

1193
01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:31.359
just kind of boggles my mind.
All right, Johnny, anything you

1194
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:34.840
want to say as we wrap it
up here, we we are out of

1195
01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:40.199
time, as they say, I
would just like to say thank you to

1196
01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:45.159
one of my childhood idols for being
here tonight. And I'm still suck on

1197
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:50.520
the eleven twenty nine with all due
respect, I mean, everything else is

1198
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:59.000
to me. Anybody that has the
balls to do that, and the maple

1199
01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:02.960
moxie has ran he would call it
these days or what Bo Burton said back

1200
01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:08.319
then, like just to be able
to converse with somebody who I've admired for

1201
01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:15.000
the last almost thirty years. I'm
almost forty. I mean, just just

1202
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:18.760
said, to be in the presence
of this and to know that our gracious

1203
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:24.880
host, Rad Rob Francois, is
the reason that he is here. I

1204
01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:28.960
wouldn't trade this day or this hour
and a half ending of my life.

1205
01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:32.079
And I hope everybody in chat really
appreciated everything that happens. It would mister

1206
01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:38.960
Learn and Bob, please send my
love to your entire family and thank you

1207
01:35:39.119 --> 01:35:43.399
so much for being here. Dude, all thanks for having me. Remember

1208
01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:48.680
that, dude, I'll look forward
to that we get together again and hang

1209
01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:55.000
out a little bit, right.
And I apologize, sir. I apologize

1210
01:35:55.039 --> 01:35:57.319
for their internet signal too, Bob. But yeah, I just want to

1211
01:35:57.359 --> 01:36:00.680
echo what Johnny said. It's uh. As a life flung fan of the

1212
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:02.560
Sparta been bowling since I was six
years old. I'm forty seven now,

1213
01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:08.399
watching you and the Greats on TV. And to have the ability to have

1214
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:12.359
technology now to where we can talk
to our heroes that we watch growing up

1215
01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:15.199
is It's something that's never lost on
me and I'll never take it for granted.

1216
01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:18.239
And I do appreciate you coming here
and talking with us, and we

1217
01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:21.359
would love to have you on in
the future. Well, thank you,

1218
01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:26.199
thank you again honestly for having me
on. I enjoyed it. It's great

1219
01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:29.800
to be able to bring up some
of those great memories and talk about things

1220
01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:32.319
that you know. We're again,
we're all passionate about it. We all

1221
01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:36.880
have the same love for the sport
and we've all gotten to play at a

1222
01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:42.039
great you know, at a higher
level and we got so much out of

1223
01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:45.079
it. Right, look what bullying
has done for us our network of friends.

1224
01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:51.159
You know, you cannot explain to
someone who does a bowl what it

1225
01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:58.199
feels like to impart rotation out of
bone ball and live until that ball goes

1226
01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:01.880
through the pins. It's still still
connected to you and you just can't explain

1227
01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:06.319
that. But everybody that's sitting out
here and everybody that's commenting, we know,

1228
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:11.600
we know what that feels like.
You know, it's a it's a

1229
01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:15.159
special thing and I'm glad that I
get to share it with others, and

1230
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:17.600
uh, I feel like I'm not
the odd one out. Have you guys

1231
01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:21.199
on talking about things. It was
awesome opportunity. So thank you. We

1232
01:37:21.279 --> 01:37:26.960
couldn't be happy to have you and
everybody in chat, I'm assuming feels the

1233
01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:30.039
exact same way about. Thank you
so much, sir. All Right,

1234
01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:34.039
guys, so next time, all
right, Thank you sir. Have a

1235
01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:42.279
good night, you too, Wow, Johnny. Yeah, we We've not

1236
01:37:42.399 --> 01:37:46.119
to take away from anybody we've ever
had on this show. It just seems

1237
01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:51.319
like each week gets gets better and
better, like that was on our show

1238
01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:56.359
is Rob You know this as well
as oh show and myself. We got

1239
01:37:56.399 --> 01:38:00.680
to talk to bowlers at a personal
level. We shit that. We don't

1240
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:04.960
want to talk about vowels and paps
and fucking link Fuck all that noise,

1241
01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:09.800
right, fuck that noise. We
want to talk about what you're thinking about

1242
01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:13.920
in the moment, especially because and
that's why Bob loves the kids so much.

1243
01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:17.760
They'll learn that, they will,
they'll get it at some point.

1244
01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:21.560
But the kids need to know what
it feels like to be in that moment.

1245
01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:28.600
And whether it's in league, a
greg TAC tournament, a supports shot

1246
01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:31.760
of this erect league, doesn't matter. The kids need to know what it

1247
01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:36.279
feels like at the pinnacle of the
sport of like what it feels like because

1248
01:38:36.479 --> 01:38:41.960
any pro will tell you in any
sport, if they've experienced something once,

1249
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:45.600
they know what not to do the
next time, right, right, And

1250
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:49.199
that's usually what our guests tell us. Case important, Ryan Schaeffer last week.

1251
01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:54.079
He's made the TV show fifteen times
in a major, but he's only

1252
01:38:54.159 --> 01:38:58.119
got six titles. Right, He'll
tell you what not to do the same

1253
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:00.640
way Bob will tell you exactly why
you got reshoot, that's fair, what

1254
01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:05.039
he was thinking. They'll tell you
his fucking gum was really really hard after

1255
01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:09.479
chewing it for two hours. Like
that's the real shit that we bring you

1256
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:12.560
up, straight up five And those
are the guys we bring in. And

1257
01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:16.279
obviously how our fans or people in
the chat that people listening to us are

1258
01:39:16.319 --> 01:39:19.359
all kind of like us. Qu're
crazy, Yeah, we're a little bit

1259
01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:24.880
stupid, yeah, but we're also
really real. And thank you so much

1260
01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:30.359
for not only getting Bob on tonight
but being a gracious host and just would

1261
01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:35.439
not be possible without somebody like you. That that means a lot to me.

1262
01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:39.800
And you know, what Bob said
at the end will probably stick with

1263
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:43.239
me forever, just like the passion
that he has for the sport and how

1264
01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:47.199
happy he gets describing just throwing a
bowling ball and waiting to see the reaction

1265
01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:50.399
he gets with the pins, And
you know that gives me goosebumps, dude,

1266
01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:54.479
just hearing that a guy that's been
doing it for so long still has

1267
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:58.439
that kind of love and passion for
the sport like Danny. Danny loves his

1268
01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:00.720
you know, he's got his whole
trophy, Like he still has that passion

1269
01:40:00.840 --> 01:40:03.800
for the sport even though he can't
do it as well. Or as much

1270
01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:08.600
as he used to. But it's
like there's nobody like bowlers too. There

1271
01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:14.800
is nobody on this earth like bowlers. They're they're a different breed. They're

1272
01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:17.920
the most down to earth people.
And and I don't think, like he

1273
01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:23.119
said, nobody else will understand it
unless they've done it. If I was

1274
01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:27.359
Bob Learn or somebody like that,
I would buy a tour bus and I

1275
01:40:27.399 --> 01:40:31.600
would invite all the fans on my
bus every week, right. I would

1276
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:35.239
make it a take, you know, yeah, because we are rock stars

1277
01:40:35.720 --> 01:40:42.279
in our own world. And someday, somehow this sport will get the recognition

1278
01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:45.680
because of guys like Bob Learn.
It has to. Yeah, I couldn't.

1279
01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:49.159
I couldn't have said that any better. Next week, as you alluded

1280
01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:55.439
to, we have the Ryan Express
coming on, Ryan Siminelli coming off his

1281
01:40:55.720 --> 01:40:59.520
huge win in the PBA League with
the Waco Wonders. Dude, we just

1282
01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:02.199
keep talking about our show. I'm
gonna rip that son of the Gun's brain

1283
01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:08.119
like there's no tomorrow next week.
Yes, I know you are. I

1284
01:41:08.199 --> 01:41:11.000
don't know how I'm gonna keep topping
this week after week, but we'll try.

1285
01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:17.560
God damn man, We're on a
pretty good run right now for the

1286
01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:21.920
dr O show. You can find
him at the dr on Twitter. You

1287
01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:27.920
can find me at what is It
a Round? Jpjr at jp j R

1288
01:41:28.159 --> 01:41:30.279
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1289
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:34.399
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1290
01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:39.600
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1291
01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:43.640
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1292
01:41:43.640 --> 01:41:46.199
our live streams are definitely on there, and we also have the audio podcast

1293
01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:50.840
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1294
01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:56.319
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would say, you can find the podcast

1295
01:41:56.439 --> 01:41:59.640
literally anywhere, especially in his pool. He finds podcasts all the time.

1296
01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:03.720
Before we go, you have to
give a shout out to Norm Adams because

1297
01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:08.479
he showed up late. But give
me a little Norm Adams down here.

1298
01:42:09.319 --> 01:42:15.720
Norm it's one of the best men
I've ever met. Anybody that's looking for

1299
01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:19.920
a handsome gentleman that will take care
of you in any aspect, Norm Adams,

1300
01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:25.119
that's the man. Love you,
bro, and rich k I just

1301
01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:28.960
got he's here as well. Thanks
for showing up, guys, Love you

1302
01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:31.920
homie. And everybody else in the
chat. We sorry got sucked into Bob

1303
01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:35.720
learned tonight, but we had to, so Rob sign us all baby for

1304
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:40.479
Doctor Roache and JPJ. Love you, Bro, Love you guys so much,

1305
01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:45.760
thanks for being here, Thank you
for being here. Thank you so

1306
01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:59.840
much that We'll be back next week
with the Ryan Express, Ryan Simonelli seventies

1307
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:04.159
to eight pm. Sorry sorry,
seventh Central, eight Eastern right here on

1308
01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:10.720
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1309
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:17.960
We'll see guys next week. Take
care. Thanks for listening to this edition

1310
01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:25.359
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1311
01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:30.760
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1312
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1315
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